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We have a witness go on record saying that they saw you in the White House parking lot with Mr. Egan, Ms. Burkheimer, and Senator Pierce. That's correct. I ran into them

by chance because I was merely getting something from my car. What were you getting? I was getting some medicine. What kind of medicine? It's knee medicine. knee medicine yeah knee medicine i have problems with my left knee um it hurts when i uh crouch what was the name of the medicine i want to say it's called uh crouch cream but that's not right um it's a white tube with a red label i'm sure an intern could research this it has a silhouette of a horse on it and i don't know why the horse is on there i I guess horses probably have good knees. But I think it's called Kneezy, Kneezy Cream. I don't think that's it. TBTN!

He hates these cans! Stay away from the cans!

This is genius.

This is genius work. Just because you like laying around your house in your underpants doesn't mean the United States of America has to see it. Is there, and I'm just guessing here, some kind of medication that you maybe need a lot of and have taken none of, or maybe too much of today?

I stand corrected. This is compelling radio. All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TVTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

This song goes out to all the coffee lovers of the world.

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. In case you're wondering what's going on here, I'm having an absolutely fabulous time. Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where it is a non-dry day, unfortunately. Didn't know you like to get wet, though. We have big plans on Saturday for the Kentucky Derby. We're not going to Kentucky, but going to watch it simulcast, which I have mixed feelings about, by the way. As a person who professes to be an animal lover, I really wonder about the morality of horse racing. But I also really love the idea of wearing a seersucker suit and drinking too many mint juleps and putting a little money down on the ponies. This is the duality of life, I guess. Anyway, it's supposed to rain on Saturday as well. But the good news is, it's warm and dry here inside the Broadcast Center, and we are ready to bring you episode 3937. Let the fun begin. In a collector's series, where today we will do a quiz. 15 obscure words for emotions.

I'm in a glass case of emotion!

This is one of the rare times where Andrew has actually prepared the content, and I will be reacting to it in the moment. If I sound kind of calm, cool, collected, casual, other things that start with C, Crab Rangoon, and things of that nature, it's because for once I am going to ride shotgun for top stories and just try to play along with this quiz that Andrew has identified for us. Also, it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day, so we will do the Blur's Day message. Speaking of my friend Andrew Walsh, the longest-running co-bro of the show...

may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships, capturing their grace and power, and all those intricate riggings.

He joins me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I'm keeping my hands on the intricate riggings as we go along here.

Did that rock your world as hard as it rocked mine?

Yeah, you have a longer version of that, huh?

Yeah, I mean, this is, if I go in my little sound system for tall ships, the thing that I typically just say in your, you know, introduction, this is what the sound is but i had no memory of the rigging he may be best known for his

depictions of the tall ships capturing their grace and power and all those intricate rigging

and you will usually say splendor as well i mean we've discussed that i mean i know that i say a lot of it wrong but intricate rigging is news to me i know and it's nice huh i mean it seems like something i'd be into it doesn't seem like i'd be into the sailing life with the possible exception of the intricate riggings although although the intricate riggings you could draw them but were you to climb upon them it would be a no-go for andy yeah that's a good point i can't do the heights thing i'd be terrible there's nothing about life at sea that seems appealing to me what about having scurvy oh no not the disease of kings the i i would say me i I...

I do sort of like citrus, so maybe I'd enjoy avoiding scurvy. Yeah, you wouldn't have scurvy because of your love of breadfruit. Yeah, I'd just be eating grapefruit, like that Chris Kattan character from SNL when bits of food would go flying all over the place. Do I have any of that right? You do. You have it all right. Keepers.

He was eating an apple, but yes.

Okay, okay, good. Well, that's how I'd be eating my grapefruit and avoiding scurvy while everybody was felled around me.

I was talking the other day about me climbing that tree and how scary that was for me. The last time that previous to that, the last time that I was in a very high, high up position that made me really question my life choices was on my friend Evan's boat, the seabird. And we were gunk holing, which is to say cruising around the San Juan Islands. And he was like, we should climb up to the top part of the mast. in fact not even the top part like maybe two-thirds of the way up the main the main sail on the boat the main mast and then jump into the water and i was like that seems fun having no idea how flipping high that actually was i mean it was probably 60 feet but it was so high when i got up there i was i couldn't figure out what i was more scared about if it were trying to climb back down or jumping and so i jumped and i cleared the side of the boat by about a foot it was what part

of you was closest to the boat i'm being serious like my hand that i was using to try to like

flap myself away from the side of the boat better than your head i wasn't sure if we were talking about like your head barely clearing it no i mean i i wasn't diving thankfully i was jumping but i was also flapping my arms like some kind of um you know dinosaur with non-functional upper body that was i think not long before maybe it was the next morning where we were trying to leave our kind of position where we had moored and we accidentally backed over the the rope that goes to the there's a little like zephyr boat that you pull behind you like a little inflatable and the the rope twisted all around the the sort of drive shaft of the propeller and we couldn't get any power on the boat and we were drifting as we already pulled anchor we were drifting towards rocks and we had to in real like tampa bay buccaneer style dive under the boat by the way this is freezing cold water even though it's summertime dive under the boat with a knife in our teeth and take turns cutting at the rope that was wrapped around the propeller shaft

yeah I remember you talking that actually it's a miracle anyone survived this gunk holing I would be that sort of reminds me and do we want to get into this that reminds me of me trying to unstick a rotor like thing yesterday when quick update on my neighbor I once again helped her with her lawnmower yesterday so I think we're all good or Kelly don't you dare get in my head with that I mean, I don't have to belabor this, but we belabored on yesterday's show.

So after we had that whole, like, coincidentally extended conversation, you then interacted with the neighbor in question.

Yeah. Yesterday on the show, I was talking about how I have this kind of ongoing awkward interactions with my very nice neighbor next door. But I keep forgetting her name and I called her her old housemate's name. And it's just after meeting her many times, I felt like I was making our interactions more and more awkward by getting confused about her name and my face blindness playing a big role in that. And then I was mowing the lawn yesterday, by the way. I mean, I think I might have mentioned this to you also recently, but like now that I know my lawn, this green lushness of my lawn in May is going to get totally burnt out by like probably what the end of June. I now appreciate this moment so much because I remember last year, my first year of mowing the lawn here, like being very excited at this time of year about the green lawn we had. and that i was going out there and i was mowing it and it was growing so quickly but then it seemed like very quickly into the season the sun just bleached our yard and i was mowing dirt the rest of the year which was not a very satisfying experience as you might expect but still needed to be done and so i have so much appreciation for mowing the lawn right now i mean it could not be more lush you get done mowing it i mean it's beautiful out there is the smell oh goodness the smell and i got it on that would you consider becoming a lawn watering guy well morally ethically it's a little a little when have we when have we ever let morals or ethics interrupt our enjoyment well probably more than i'd like to admit um but uh yeah i that's where you're on the line no i mean i i don't think i first of all i mean even if i lived here totally by myself and i didn't have the judgment of my neighbors i still think i would morally and F-E-

lean away from it but i also think it's just like a in this day and age like mowing your lawn like that's not i'm sorry not mowing watering your lawn i mean that's a pretty bad waste of resources isn't it like is that justifiable you're supposed to build a landscape that doesn't need that

a zero scape sure i think it is it's i mean lawns are inherently immoral i believe but i think that there are places where there are they are more immoral than other places you mean based on water supply because we're yeah i would say seattle is one of the least immoral places to have a lawn yeah um you know tucson arizona and peace and love to our friends down there but that would be one of the more immoral places to have a green lawn if you're if yeah yeah i wouldn't i mean not

to nitpick i wouldn't say having a lawn is immoral it's how you care for it like we have a lawn but then in the summertime it just turns very brown so that's not immoral it's i think it's very specifically using too much water or resources and then depending on whether or not you're fertilizing it and how you're fertilizing it you could like a well would you ever as i did when i

lived in bellingham consider buying green spray paint to spray over the weird brown circles in your otherwise green lawn during this time uh the the sort of most lush period for lawns no i mean

first no i don't think i would do that anyway but i'm also just feeling very lucky right now that that is not what i need but where which house was that you said mount your mount baker's bellingham

or belling oh bellingham really bellingham one of the issues there from a lawn standpoint was there had been a driveway that went up to a sort of a carport that late like long before we got there somebody had turned that into the tv room and then made it no longer a driveway but they hadn't properly broken up the like underlying hard pan or whatever so there was this part of the lawn that would never grow properly even you know no matter how many people i hired to come and put fertilizer on it and and and keep putting sod over it it was always kind of dicey and uh they would also sometimes just have these weird i thought it was where rudy was peeing these brown circles that were just like inexplicable but they just the rest of the lawn would be green and beautiful and again i'm talking about you know during the time when it's morally okay to have a green lawn but then there would just be these yellow spots and so i went on amazon and i bought you know some kind of green spray paint for your lawn because i'm not just about spray painting my my um my scalp to look like i have more coverage i'm also about spray painting my lawn also it didn't work for shit i'm wondering if you could find a product that

would serve both of those purposes you know so well if you see me dying my hair green you'll know that i'm trying to consolidate why not save a little money absolutely keep it simple too

everybody went one store the howard stern show this week in miami has turned into a referendum on topic i know that i mentioned that like earlier this week about how there's a guy named sal governale who's a producer on the show who it turns out does all of the hair remedies that i do He wears a laser balding helmet He puts Topic in his hair Last we checked in with them He is jumping in a swimming pool With full head of Topic And they're videotaping it To see what the sort of like I don't know Environmental effect of his hair powder is Again I just feel like We have been discussing this We've been living in this world For years And they're just now getting around to it On the Howard Stern show

How did the pool experiment work?

I haven't gotten to that episode Oh okay yeah I'd be interested It might be on the Howard Stern app as well It may not be on the radio but on the Sirius app

Now are they doing any kind of video component Because like now Levitard You know my addiction

I was watching Levitard on video yesterday And enjoying it greatly

I was going to say they just moved to some brand new studios And so this is a whole new You know kind of chapter In their ongoing saga That shows like almost 20 years old now I think And so there's been a lot of talk of like the new studios and how they're using it. You can tell everybody's very excited about it, but also sort of having some of that. Like when New Hampshire Public Radio switched, we we were in this tiny old building that we kind of hated, but we're also sort of proud of the the the humbleness of it, for lack of a better word. And then you move to a brand new shiny studio that's built just for you. And it can sort of affect can sort of it's nice, but it also can take away some of the camaraderie, you know, or the the in the trenches vibes, you know, and I sort of feel like the show is kind of dealing with that like two weeks into these new studios a little bit. But I have not been watching too much of it other than clips on Twitter. It really seems like they are really pushing more and more to be a video based product, not a podcast. I find that very encouraging because, you know, when... When TBTL goes independent on July 3rd, we're going to be, I think, trying some new kind of things around the show, including maybe more video content. And if Dan Lebitard can be on TV, I think you and I can be on TV.

You mean not as far as resources, but as far as looks? As far as being a guy roughly our age, roughly our build. Yeah. Like, you know. Well, he's on TV a lot with his shirt off. They do all kinds of stuff that I didn't even realize. You see, that's one thing as a podcast listener that I didn't realize. July 3rd, you, me, shirtless. Yeah, right. Interesting. It looks like they do need some people to stick around 8 p.m. to work on the kids programming. I might do that.

You're going to work on a new show called The Shirt On?

Yes, exactly. The shirt is stapled on. But one thing I did not get about that show, you don't get the show, is that lots of times I'd be listening and it would sound like a regular episode on the podcast. But if you were watching the video or like back when they were actually on ESPN 2 or whatever it was, they were often because of various like sort of bets that didn't pay off or quote unquote punishments in the studio. They were often dressed up in some sort of cosplay, some weird shit, and they wouldn't mention it at all. And it took me a long time to realize that the joke was they would have these guests on the show and they would try to break news with these guests and something that would maybe go viral or that ESPN would have to put in its other day parts if they broke some news. But Dan would be sitting there shirtless, covered completely in blue body paint and wearing a helmet, but no mention of it at all, like no mention of it at all. So that when it goes viral, it's just unsaid.

And they've been doing that for years. When John Buchigras is introducing it on the third round of SportsCenter, it just has to be submitted without comment, roughly?

We can't do this, but is that the segment that you heard or watched, the one where he was talking about the hockey playoffs? And they kept asking him to take off his shirt because he has a bunch of tattoos? Buchigras, he's the hockey guy, right? Oh, really?

I picked that name at total random.

Oh, really? He was just on an episode I was listening to yesterday. Oh, that's funny. It was very awkward. Apparently, they had him on the Zoom. This is a he's an ESPN, I believe, still hockey analyst. I was unfamiliar with the name.

I think he I mean, he was he used to just be a sports center guy, but I think now he does hockey.

I see. Well, that's what they were talking about with him anyway.

And I only know that he does hockey because I'm a newly minted Kraken fan. And they were doing the postgame show and he was on that.

Oh, that's why the name was front and center for you. This is this is spiraling out of control here. But I'll just finish my thought. We can move on back to the TBTL universe, not another podcast universe. but he was a guest on an episode I was listening to from earlier this week while I mowed my lush lawn yesterday, and he's on a Zoom with them. And, again, I'm not seeing this. I'm just hearing it. But apparently he's in pretty good shape. He's kind of got guns, and they're also mentioning that he's got tattoos. Pipes, exactly. And they said, hey, didn't have you as a tattoo guy, and he's talking about his tattoos for a little bit, and somebody said, hey, you want to take off that shirt and we can see more, and he sort of demurs, if that's the right word. And then and then they start talking about it. They're like, but you're jacked. He's like, no, no, I'm not jacked. And he's just like, it just gets I mean, it gets awkward whenever you ask anybody to take off their shirt during a supposedly professional interview. I could see it getting somewhat awkward. But then later on, because I'm getting deeper into this world, I was looking for something in the Levitard Reddit. And I came across something. The reason how do you say his name again? Boucher. Yeah. Boucher Gras. Boucher Gras. The reason Boucher Gras might have been extra awkward in that moment. And apparently and this is going to get a little bit dark here. He was in embroiled in a scandal about four or five years ago because he was sending a female co-worker shirtless photos of himself and creeping on her. And they were all published first by ESPN, but then more fully by the Boston Globe. And I everybody's like, yeah, maybe like asking this guy who, first of all, like I I guess his career has moved on. But I was reading all these text messages and it's just kind of like, hey, here's a photo of me drinking tea. Sorry. In the morning I go full. Oh, God. Shirtless. Yeah. Who's the Texas? Who's her? McConaughey. Sorry. Like sort of like this. Yeah. McConaughey is like, hey, when I drink tea in the summertime, I go full McConaughey. And you can see the responses from his female colleague who's kind of like, oh, hey, hey, yeah. Oh, how did that other thing go? Like sort of like not not being able just to say to a powerful man, like, please stop sending this. This is trying to not address the butcher grass in the room, but like kind of, you know, I'm reading these old text exchange and seeing this co-worker who's I don't know if she was on air or a producer or what, but like trying to just steer it, like trying to roll with it, steer the conversation. And it's just like really It's just so gross to read

I don't feel like this is the show Where we need to say this But My dudes

In the history of interactions from us, the guys, and women, I can't remember a time in human history where the women have been like, we would like to see photos of you without your clothing on. Like, I'm not saying that, you know, the arousal sort of mechanism for women is non-existent or that they don't enjoy a well-sculpted, you know, figure or whatever. But it is the weirdest thing to me That guys will try to pull that move Whether it's Brett Favre And you're talking about, you know, pictures of their You know, private parts Or just shirtless or what have you No one wants to What I'm trying to say is no one wants to see us Without the amount of clothing on That we wear during normal times

Or at least uninvited I mean, I'm sure there's tons of people who are in relationships Or in the beginnings of relationships None of the ones I've been in And they love swapping pictures That's not my generational thing either I mean, I think there are people who do enjoy sharing, you know, sexy pictures with each other. But in these cases of just like being uninvited, of uninvited, that's a good point, trying to make it seem like, oh, this casual. Oh, I'm just standing in my kitchen. Sorry. Sorry, Stephanie. I can't remember if that was her name or not. Like, this is just how I roll in the summertime. And like when she OK, like, first of all, I can't. Obviously, it's me. That's inappropriate on the first time. But when you just don't get a response on that or just like, lol. anyway how did that meeting go like jesus christ i mean there's an i'm making it sound like the first one is appropriate it's always inappropriate when it's uninvited with a colleague like that but anyway yeah it's just it's just like to for him to continue down it's also just like embarrassing it's just like it's like that's the thing it's just like so dumb like oh ha ha ha like just having to be so so confident and and willfully obtuse to just think that this person continues to want to get these kinds of text messages from you it's so gross and just dumb and embarrassing

i think i'm just first of all everything you said is accurate and guys stop being gross on some level i'm jealous of someone who has the self-confidence in their physical body to think it would be a turn-on because i'm doing everything i can in my current relationship with my girlfriend and rebecca to dim the lights put on one to five shirts like it is i cannot imagine being in the kind of shape where i think this is gonna work visually here's me in a puffy coat right this is me and the drake meme that andrew sent me last night oh yeah that's pretty good mariners you

know i posted that to twitter this is how i know twitter's dying i got no love for that of course i also didn't hashtag mariners i think to most of my followers just have no idea what that's about But I'm not going to even try to describe it on the show. That was a good spoof, by the way. That is too tedious even for me. But it was a joke about the Mariners.

I actually have written down on my show sheet today, Mariners, Andrew. Because I know that we try to not rat hole ourselves. We try to not rat hole the listeners in a Mariners situation. But then we often do. But I just want to say, I think you and I might have been right. It helps that we're playing the Oakland A's. But I think we may have sort of like, I don't know, what would you call it, like emotionally and momentarily turned a corner.

I do think it has to do with the schedule and what happened in the last game of the Blue Jays series. So I don't know how much you want to talk about it.

I mean, we just we had two games against the Oakland A's so far where we have not scored a run against their starting pitcher and we've won both games.

Yes, exactly. Now, here's the deal. I'm not trying to be super negative about it, but like the last, sorry, Monday night's game, which I didn't watch, but was kind of following and reading up on later and yesterday's game until extra innings, even though they ended up being wins, they were still a lot of significant issues remain clearly in our offense, like and in some of our base running and stuff too. Like, I don't see the team necessarily getting a lot better right now, but where they are in the schedule, they had this great, miraculous, well, maybe not miraculous, but certainly exciting upset in the last game of the Toronto series, which then gives them a day off. Then they come to play the worst team in baseball, which they did the last two days and sort of scratched out wins, although I know the final score didn't really appear that way yesterday with that 10th inning explosion. But like they're still they're still rough. But if they can continue to take advantage of where they are in the schedule right now and then maybe we're playing the Astros at home right this weekend. So that's going to that's going to be where we see, like, can they build any momentum coming out of Oakland and then face Houston?

I just think I agree with what you're saying. We are playing the, you know, from a record standpoint, the worst team in baseball. But I think there is something kind of inevitable.

ineffable about any pro sports team when they figure out and this has been the Mariners thing for the last couple seasons is just weirdly winning like I know yesterday wasn't a one-run game but like just kind of finding a way to do it and we had had a really hard time figuring out how to do it how to win games in late innings and how to like come in and get the save and stuff like that this season and it feels to me and I'm sure I'm overestimating I'm also probably just still geeking out on how insanely good my bet was yesterday i had two bets that had almost no chance of both being like wins but were they i mean i think you sent them but i'll be honest i did not look at them no i know i i right after i sent it i was like why are you boring these people with this kind of statistical i know but i mean i was embarrassed that i even sent that text the so the first bet that i had was that through seven innings the total score would be under

four runs oh i did look at this yes okay yeah okay but i also had a different bet with these two teams and the way they're playing and you know in that atmosphere yeah i thought so but

also it was plus like 175 meaning i was getting i was getting money back in a way that makes me think the the sharps the real bettors knew that that was unlikely wow that's that wow those odds

really surprised me on that these two teams playing and again like the atmosphere literally matters in you know in a rainy northern california because that was my logic and maybe it was i maybe

i was getting plus 105 i was getting a positive return on investment yeah that made me think there's a reason why they're giving me more money than i'm betting here i'm betting 50 bucks and they're giving me 120 bucks or something but then the other bet i had was that the mariners needed to score one run before the total of seven seven innings were over and they needed to win and They needed to score more than four runs Total

So I found myself in the

Seventh inning being like Please God Mariners score one run But not more than one run Because that was going to Screw up my other bet and they did And then They went And then you know what Pollock That's my new favorite person I know I know See previous Drake Puffer comments like somehow they threaded this needle for me where they scored just the amount of runs that i needed them to but not even one run more uh throughout the the game so maybe that's why i'm feeling especially optimistic i just think it feels like something is clicking where they're just kind of figuring out how to how to make it happen and again it's the oakland a's which is they have the worst bullpen in baseball but i'm i'm hoping anyway that they've kind of

turn some kind of psychic corner by the way i got five whole likes on my um tweet somebody i was unbroken i was um i was reading a it was it's a new york times piece by one of their editors i want to say his name is willy something you probably know this byline and i'm just blanking on it right now i think it's they have a whatever they have a i don't know if he's a lifestyle or a tech reporter or editor um but he wrote this piece about like it was almost like an obit to twitter like kind of because he's somebody who apparently lived on the site quite a bit and apparently is still using it but you know throughout this piece that was just sort of a i don't know reflection back on the good things and the bad things of twitter he kept going back to the kind of obvious analogy of twitter being sort of a dinner party where various people are invited and various people act certain ways it was fine it wasn't too heavy-handed but then at some point in the piece he said Twitter today is the equivalent of the time late in the dinner party when the only people who are left are the hardcore drinkers and whiskey is being poured into wine glasses and the cheese plate has become an ashtray and I keep thinking about that line because I'm not on Twitter all that much and I don't that is such a great analogy is that not great

deeply hurtful to me as a person who loves to at some point in the night probably start pouring

whiskey into a wine glass yeah in a certain way i i really actually just made it sound like the type of thing that you and i would just be showing up for um but uh yeah i thought that was a really

good analogy yeah that is that is well well put all right let's do this let's take a quick break when we come back it is time for 15 obscure words what do you think we get to three i don't know i got to read this thing okay some amount of obscure words for emotions coming up here on tbtl

on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go everybody

hey let's thank some dazzling donors these wonderful generous folks are keeping tbtl rolling on with their dazzling donation of dough and we are so appreciative of folks like travis spokes in white plains new york hi travis what up travis i may have brought this up last year if we thanked travis and mentioned white plains new york but there was some airline that had a very bizarre sort of like a series of destinations that was trying to, and it wasn't like any of the ones that you've heard of. It wasn't Southwest or anything like that might've been called Centurion, but they basically were, they had like two or three airports where they had gotten, you know, some kind of agreement to take off and land from. And I think that their idea was, We're going to just, like, give a bunch of AM radio station talent and producers a bunch of free tickets if they want them, and they'll talk about our airline. And I remember one of the places they flew to was White Plains, New York. Hmm. And I was like, that sounds like a magical land, White Plains, New York.

Now, did you take advantage of this?

I did not.

Okay. I did not.

But White Plains of New York has always lived very large in my imagination, Travis, thanks to, I believe, Centurion Airlines. Travis says, hey, friendos, just wanted to use my time to thank you both for being those friendly voices in my ear holes every day. Looking forward to hopefully seeing more live events. Well, TBTL goes to White Plains, Andrew.

I'm looking.

I'm trying to figure out like what Centurion Airlines.

Let's see. I'm looking up Centurion, see if they're still in business.

I don't know if that was an it was something like that, though. they were i maybe it was like it may have even had romney in the name i feel like it was detroit

based a detroit based airline that might have romney or centurion in the name i might just be

overlaying mitt romney's dad who was the governor of michigan onto this situation but i felt like it was romulus airlines romulus would you get on a plane called romulus i don't think so i this feels like what maybe why this airline didn't succeed but anyway uh travis says uh looking forward hopefully seeing more live events in the future and maybe getting together with the new york city tens again all the best to you both oh thank you yeah thank you travis uh are you getting

anywhere with no no i'm not getting any romulus romulus i think romulus there's a romulus michigan

is that what you're thinking of there is a romulus michigan okay well we have that much going what I was so off about, like, Lansing, Michigan, thinking that was the home of the Pontiac Silverdome. Oh, yeah, you were talking about that. Even though the Pontiac Silverdome is squarely located in Pontiac, Michigan.

Let me see. When I type in Romulus, Michigan, it looks like the Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport is there. But that looks like that's not the main Detroit airport, right? Well, maybe that is the main Detroit airport. I don't know. I'm trying to learn. This isn't interesting. I'm going to shut up.

Let's ask Kirby Wilber, who was the person that I produced for. I was producing maybe for Peter Weisbach at the time, but he is no longer alive on this planet. So maybe Kirby would know. Ask Camaro Kev to ask Kirby what that airline was that was trying to fly us to White Plane.

Wait, that's right. Because there's Weisbaum, right? Or is it Weisbach?

Well, there's Herb Weisbaum. Oh, I'm confusing Weisbaum. He was a consumer reporter at Como for many years. Recently retired. There was a guy named Peter Weisbach, who I worked for. In fact, producer emeritus of this program, Jen Flash Andrews, was the first producer for this guy named Peter Weisbach who had been in Portland and had had some success on kind of hot talk AM conservative radio, had come up to Seattle. And Jen wisely, within minutes, realized, I don't want to work for this guy. so she reached out to me a person who was going to graduate college literally within the next four days and said would you like to you know um interview for this job of producer for wiseback and i was like absolutely i was like what does it pay she was like 31 000 a year i thought i'll

never spend that amount of money i know do you what was your very was that your very first salary job yes um so you got 31 my very first salary job i got 25 000 i would have taken 25 in a heartbeat yeah i was i was pretty cool with that it was also like i was in that situation where i had already kind of accepted a job in a different part of the country that i realized i kind of didn't want when there was this opportunity in new hampshire which put me like kind of close to boston and frankly close to genevieve who i was uh newly infatuated with at the time that makes it sound like I'm a stalker um we were involved anyway the line between stalking and a romantic

love story is fairly thin I don't know if I agree with that statement but I think though like a story where you end up in a long

long-term loving relationship with someone that's a beautiful story you maybe take a job kind of want to be around a person and they're not reciprocate like you would never do that but don't you think like we like who who had the joke on snl well anyway i don't want to go there because maybe that joke isn't even doesn't stand up to current scrutiny but like sometimes sometimes things turn out in a way that it's very romantic but if it turned out differently it could be read

differently you certainly yeah the funny thing is i guess i do kind of want to maybe now that we examine it a little bit closely maybe um change my statement a little bit there because i remember stalking you she was well no veves and i had already like kind of um had established the beginnings of a relationship and we're um kind of writing letters to each other like literally every day i think i've told you this before but i didn't have internet in my studio apartment so i'd write it on a three and a half inch floppy or whatever those are and i would then take it into work the next day and then copy and paste it into the old email program and then email her from work that is straight up adorable and we were just like and we were both loved writing and so we'd send these long overwritten things that would be super embarrassing to read now but the thing is I do have those discs somewhere I just don't have any way to track them open those ones you have not trashed no but there's other stuff that you've thrown out because of your embarrassment the actual notebooks yeah because I wouldn't want somebody like I don't want something to happen to me and then somebody finds a bunch of old notebooks and the bullshit that i wrote in college so i got rid of all of those and yeah something happens to me now nobody's going to go out of their way to find some sort of a usb disc drive i am just well that's why there's to me that's why in the living will we have made it clear that you are not allowed my around my property for what's the

opposite of power of attorney right right that's what you've created weakness of attorney that's

that's a show title while we're this of attorney while we're talking really briefly before we get into the next dazzling donor um i told you on one of these old vhs tapes that i randomly got at the garage sale last summer i found one that has uh no label on it whatsoever and i started um watching it and recording it and and digitizing it and it is a como early morning news show like just como morning news or whatever uh from i think i don't have the date in front of me right now but it was it's a date in early 1996 i want to say maybe late 1995 and it's just somebody taped the morning show and so i'm getting news updates i'm getting all this like some sort of i cannot wait for you to put that oh yeah i'm only halfway through it now i need to upload more and stitch it together but there was this one commercial um that showed two fellas one in glasses one not they're both very close to the camera like kind of almost like kind of crowding into the camera and this is what they say i actually don't remember what they say here i just want to

know if you're going to recognize this there's two types of radio stations those that play about 200

songs and then there's the mountain that plays 3 986 songs let's see we started that's 3.7 fm the mountain crow and west on the mountain crow and west yes yes good ears later fisher and west

really so who's fisher fisher came in and knocked off fisher came in later and fisher i think was So West is the dad of the guy That is telekinesis And Fisher was the meanest person to me I've ever worked with in radio When I was his traffic reporter

Really?

Yeah He was Is he the one who came in? I think his name is Mike Fisher And he was like When I used to do The way that being a traffic reporter worked Was you were at a different building And you had like 50 different switches And you would go on all these stations And I loved being on the mountain, 103.7, because they played the music I enjoyed, and there was the 520 Funny. Marty Reamer played the 520 Funny. By the way, Marty Reamer, amazing, sweetheart. But I was doing the traffic, and the guy, Fisher, whatever his name, John Fisher, I think? John Fisher came out of his window, meaning he did not get to the break when we had agreed the break was. And I wasn't there. and he called me and just absolutely leveled me oh my god with meanness over the phone even though he was the person who did not ask for traffic in the period of time that was established between the radio station and metro traffic control and was this when you were pretty new as well or am i confusing that with another yeah i mean yeah i was the whole time i was doing traffic i was like between the age of 20 and 24 not even 24 20 and 22 so i was everything kind of you know hit me pretty hard because i was i was young but um yeah that would have been uh yeah crow and west

i'm trying to get a screen cap here something went a little bit sideways with my computer but do you remember what they look like at all or do you know yeah i don't remember what crow looked

like because crow and west that was a big thing but then crow went and did something else and that was when it became fisher and west so i know what west looks like because again it's telekinesis his dad.

So is he the guy with the glasses is what I'm trying to figure out? He has a white piano that used to belong to Paul McCartney in his living room. Oh, really? That's what West has. Vinnie West is his name. Do you remember which one wore glasses? Yeah, the guy with – he had white hair and glasses. That's the guy who was telekinesis' dad? That was Fisher, John Fisher, the guy that was mean to me.

Oh, okay.

Okay, he's the one – oh, wait, that's Fisher. Now, Mike West may have also worn glasses at the time, but if you showed me a picture of Mike West and John Fisher, I could definitely – John Fisher, this day, in the current era, looks a lot like John Curley.

Okay, here's the thing to remember. I don't have Fisher here. I just have Crow. So I have Crow and West here, and I'm interested in knowing which, and I'm emailing you this. And this is just probably, you know, not the best decision I've made.

Would you say this is how Corey Diamond in Brookline, Massachusetts, hoped his dazzling donor message would go?

I just want to know which one of these guys is telekinesis' dad. That's all I want to know at some point.

I'm going to, okay, hold on. First of all, I'm going to look at the photo. So the guy on the right is Telekinesis' dad. The guy on the right with the glasses. And the guy on the left is Crow.

Okay, gotcha. So that's West.

And Crow is great with me, and Vinny West, a.k.a. Mike West, is great with me. Both of the people in this picture you're sending me are great with me. They look like nice fellas. This other guy, Fisher, who came along later, John Fisher, is a piece of human trash.

Oh, no. And where is he now, and will we get sued?

I think he's probably hosting a more successful podcast.

Okay, great. So, yes.

But with limited legal representation, so I think we're going to be okay. We got the Dannys. we sure do back to cory diamond in brookline you know what john fisher will never have cory diamond in brookline massachusetts andrew should we who says should we maestro this or yes maestro okay here we go on your mark on your mark andrew when i ask you to play the sound this is my john fisher when i tell you to play the sound you better play the mother effing sound really is that really like that's how it was so it was so mean it really crushed me i don't like And it was like nobody else in radio did. The only thing that even came close to that was when I was on Kickin' Country doing the news. This was also as a, this was Scott Burns in the morning. Scott Burns, by the way, also a lovely human being. I'm just saying this because people hearing this might be old Seattle radio heads, like listeners. And I want to make sure they know who is on my Steve Buscemi list and who's not. Scotty Burns is amazing A lovely human being but it was like Burns in the morning or something And I was so excited To get the because along with the Traffic sometimes you get to do the news So I was doing the news on Kicking Country I was filling in for I was probably filling in for Bev Devlin And I was so psyched because They had a really funny morning show With like a bunch of like You know people and you know Tim the stunt guy is going to be at yonker nissan today giving away you know whatever like i just wanted to be part of it so i was doing the news but all i was doing was writing jokes i did almost no news all jokes and not scott burns but whoever the program director of kicking country was called me on my little phone and was like just do the news which i'm okay with that was that was reasonable feedback sure yeah It was not mean the way that John Fisher was mean to me.

Yeah. Kickin' Country. I don't know if you've said that. What a name. It sounds like an appetizer that I would get at TGI. Kickin' Country niblets or something. They sound delicious.

It definitely comes with some kind of spicy jelly that you might get with some kind of a jalapeno popper.

Or a Thousand Island sauce of some sort.

That you would not touch with a tentpole.

Believe it or not. Believe it or not.

You mess with a Thousand Island?

If I am in the right atmosphere and I am served the right appetizer that has been properly deep fried within an inch of its life and the proper dipping sauce that goes along with it is some sort of a probably mayonnaise-based but beige-ish spicy sauce that I think we're getting into Thousand Island territory here, I will dip my Kickin' Country niblet into that a little bit and test those waters. Now that's a show title, Kickin' Country niblet. I thought, what did you say before? Weakness of attorney also could be a possible show.

All right. Back to Corey Diamond, who is supporting the program from Brookline, Massachusetts. He says, as a fan of TBTL, I have come to realize the value that this podcast adds to my life. Are you questioning that today, Corey? As I'm settling scores with former Seattle radio personalities. The daily dose of wit, humor, and insightful commentary has become an... How are we hitting this word again? integral part of my routine oh didn't i ask the other day you did with if you go integral or integral you said integral right i say integral because i think i trust myself to not stumble over it i also think it sounds correct now that i've gotten your advice your advice on this and I'm saying it.

sounds integral sounds right integral yeah i believe that in today's fast-paced world it's important to take a moment to slow down and reflect on things that matter tbtl provides just that a space to connect laugh and learn actually oh god really that text is what chat gpt wrote when i asked it to do my dazzling cory how dare you toy with my emotions i thought we'd really connected in that previous paragraph that's so great despite the use of quote wit humor and insightful this is an accurate description of why i listen and support the show wait a second is that a burn

that seems like a burn despite the use of wit humor and insightful this is if you weren't

donating fifty dollars a month i would be very mad at you i also asked chat gpt for ideas on discussion topics for a tbtl episode the best one was a deep dive into a unique or interesting subculture such as competitive beard growing well you win andrew that was tape if we're doing

competitive beard growing you win but isn't i'm wondering that seems so specific don't you use tape from an npr story about competitive beard growing it's not um competitive beard growing

but it's about hipster beards or something no i believe it's actually about people at some kind of checkpoint i'll play it for you here um it it has something to do with people being profiled for their beards why do why are we sorry i'm turning my mic down why are we getting into

the origins of these kinds of girls like it but police checkpoints don't it took seven months to grow and needs half an hour's grooming every morning and then we got this one my beard is

like my girlfriend like it was about guys being stopped at some checkpoint because of their beards right my beard is like

my girlfriend is nothing beard can stay now we can't play those drops anymore

because they come from a very serious story about some kind of you know apartheid essentially anyway back to Corey's message on my other screen between chat GPT and the AI generated Luke voice you recently played wow Corey way to slide this in under the wire

yeah we still have a couple if you're

somebody a lot of recent and relevant references yeah I got a couple

more dazzling donor messages that came in this week I mean I know we had a deadline and I salute everybody who got it in under deadline but also like if you're fretting about this just email me at andrewtbtail.net if you think that you've been skipped or missed in any way

between chat GPT and the AI generated Luke voice you recently played you two will barely have to do anything to produce the show in the future enjoy that and thanks for all you do that's from cory thank you cory for all you've done for the show we really do appreciate you that's what the

writers are striking about right they said they don't want tbtl to be ai generated yeah it's a big

once that happens it's it's over yep basically that was loud sorry i actually saw an interesting quote not to take it back to the writer's strike but welcome to top story somebody said i think it might have been the Raphael uh Bob Waksberg the guy who made um Bojack Horseman I think he might have said that AI will not replace writers of those shows at least not for a long time but it will be used as a way to drive down their salaries oh god you know what I mean sort of like the promise of it and if you've ever you know dealt with an a chat although I will say from Corey that was pretty convincing but like if you've dealt with something on TikTok or whatever that is ai generated it doesn't quite it doesn't pass the turing test yet but it will be used by hollywood studios to figure out a way to pay human beings less did you listen at all i know

we got to move on but did you listen at all to um that entire hour-long podcast of an ai joe rogan interviewing um somebody i think an ai scientist yeah it's actually um i want to go back and listen some more and do some more reading about it but i saw it in some news roundup recently it's um it's it's um it's less in the uncanny valley than you'd think it's pretty shocking is it the intro tape we played yesterday no but we should contextualize that by the way a little bit for folks oh yeah that was tiktok tape that we tiktok tape that we started the show with yesterday it was a fellow who's becoming apparently one of our favorite tiktokers on this show some guy mark is his thing and he does all kinds of impressions and we had him doing an impression of a very sad fred flintstone who's going through some marital troubles last week or the week before and then yesterday it's up to the courts it's up to the courts now oh it's so sad i would love it

i didn't even realize i was sending you that guy that guy uh the other day when i saw him

doing this impression of essentially like a joe rogan style podcast where somebody is just saying like how is there no tape of abraham lincoln he was the first president he made slavery illegal

yeah we talked about you and i talked via text about whether or not that whether or not that tape was still funny without the the you know label on it that says any guy hosting a podcast or what what it what do you remember exactly what it said guy i think it was podcast essentially that yeah yeah i didn't want to misrepresent it um here i'll just play it because we're talking

about it can i blow your mind right now chris is laughing because he knows where i'm going with

this okay that's my favorite part yeah i mean there's just something about that that little detail of like talking to or referring to an unseen producer can i blow your mind right now

chris is laughing because he knows where i'm going with this okay there's not a single video of abraham lincoln i'm serious look it up go on youtube okay think about that he's one of the most famous americans in history famous he's the first president first president he made slavery illegal and there's no video you can look it up there's no videos of abraham lincoln and every time i say and here's the thing none so then you start to ask yourself and if you really want to go down this rabbit hole with me here just bear with me who's controlling what we get to see a video of and what there is no video of right because there's no videos of abraham lincoln but i can go on youtube right now i can go on youtube right now and you can do it and you can watch behind the scenes footage of paul giamatti recording his lines for the ant belief right

did you know that i don't think i knew there was a movie called the ant belief that's your question

up it's a 2006 movie i think like i have never never in my life heard of a film called the ant bully that is that real yeah it came out in 2006 or something i looked it up yesterday

i think i confused that with jerry seinfeld's movie bees yes and then ant-man starring paul rudd somehow those all occupied the same i didn't know there was a movie called the does the is it an ant who's a bully or is it someone who bullies and i mean he's the ant bully i assume that he

was bullying does the amp bully ever say i need a win here i could really use a win here that's where it said um also there's um a woody allen not made but woody allen voiced a a cartoon ant in one of those pixar-esque films from the late 90s i think it's just called ants right i think it's just called ants so a lot of people are playing in that ant space i guess it's like

funny that somebody was like we also need a movie called the ant bully with the voice of

Paul Giamatti. It kind of makes me want to watch part of it. I just want to know what's going on with the Ant Bully. Well, I'll tell you

what, since we don't have access to Lincoln video. Yeah, I know. There is something going on there. I guess we'll have to watch Paul Giamatti behind the scenes on the Ant Bully. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. All right. Should we do this? Should we or should we just go over the river and do it tomorrow? Oh, are we already running kind of late? I didn't know. Not for me. I'm fine. I mean, the Mariners aren't starting for a good 30 minutes. But I mean, do you... I haven't looked at any part of this. Do you think this is something that we would like to set aside like a half hour for or can we just can we give it the the 20 minute

treatment no let's just let's get into it now i think it's fine we don't have to go through all 15 of these let me give you a little bit of background so luke you've mentioned that you subscribe to this email newsletter as well called pocket it's actually pocket is an app that allows you if you're if you see a longish article that you want to flag for later you can kind of like just hit a button on your phone and it'll go into your pocket app and you can read it over lunch later when you're done with the world for example um but they also when you sign up for the app you get a uh an email that goes along with it where it's like i don't know top 10 stories that might catch your interest um and they're just you know these kind of newsletter roundups are somewhat random some of it will be related to what's going on in the world now other times they just have a hole to fill and so they included an article from mental floss from 2019 so this is really cutting edge here 15 obscure words for everyday feelings and emotions um and these are a bunch of words that i've never heard of before and that i will have a lot of trouble pronouncing so buckle up for that and then you luke have to guess what the emotion could be but these are like very specific emotions the idea of you getting any of these right are pretty pretty slim i would say Although I'll try to walk you up to the water if possible. But think along the lines of like schadenfreude. Like what is schadenfreude, right?

Like we know that it's a feeling of enjoyment when someone else has a bad time.

Exactly. Taking pleasure in the pain of others. So that's not one of the words on here, but like that's a very specific emotion, right? So when I give you, for example, this hyphenated word, the first one on their list, Crouchy Proof

Crouchies, it's from the Scottish dialect. What do you think Crouchy, oh no, I misread that. Crouchy Poochels. Nope, let me try it a third time. Crouchy Poochels. Crouchy Poochels, what does that mean? It's Scottish, Crouchy Poochels. Yep, it comes from the Scottish dialect, Crouchy Poochels. Third time I got it right. First two, I was trying to confuse you. It's the feeling of when you're a custodian at a school, but you're impossibly buff. when you occasionally tear your shirt off. How did you get that on the first? That's amazing. Cruci-pruchels means the feeling of discomfort or fidgetiness that comes from sitting in a cramped position, like on an airplane. So if you are on an airplane. There's some onomatopoeia there. Right, yeah. I mean, once you hear that, you're like, oh, yeah, cruci-pruchels. Oh, I got the cruci-pruchels just shaking off your legs after you're finally walking into the aisle after flying from Seattle to New York for an interview that just got canceled at the last minute by your CBS producer, maybe? I don't know. Sure, that'll happen. Nikedonia. N-I-K-H-E-donia. Nikik. Nikedonia. Nikedonia. Can I have the country of origin? Yes. Does it say? It doesn't give me that information. Hmm. but let's say it is a it is a i think it's a good feeling okay all of a sudden like i heard like numbnut yes nicodonia nicodonia is it is it nik or nic nik okay so it's not nicotine related No, it's not. I'm wondering, I feel like here, I feel like you might have this feeling when you are holding a good hand at the poker table, Luke. Ooh, okay.

Yeah, numna can be spelled in so many different ways.

Do you remember that, by the way, when the guy had to spell numna? Yeah. And then isn't the kid super relieved when he's like, oh!

What in the heck were you thinking? I don't know. All of a sudden, like, I heard, like, Numbnut.

Samir Mishra returns. Numbnut.

Numbnut?

Numbnut is a felt or sheepskin pad placed between a horse's back and the saddle to prevent chafing.

Oh. And then I realized what he was saying, and such relief, like, broke through me. I was so happy. Oh, Numbnut.

Yeah, that's the part I remember. Has anyone other than Samir Mithra ever been like, oh, of course, Numna? Oh, Numna. Right. I don't know what Nikka, whatever you said. Nikodonia is an excited feeling that you get or a feeling of excitement or elation that comes from anticipating success. So if you're sitting at the table and you're like, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God. But you got to keep. You're sitting on a made hand. You have the nuts, actually. There you go. That's what I was going to say. Great description But you gotta keep your poker face I assume That's where that comes from You can't let people know Well I've lately been trying a new thing It's not working Where I just tell people Pump your fist You think I'm kidding I just tell people what I have Because I think it'll mess with their brain I'm like I just have two kings right now So if you can beat that Try Wait wait wait What is the context that you've done that Like in an actual card room For a lot of money Or like in a card room type of situation Or In an illegal after hours poker game And you just literally For a lot of cash So these are people that you're playing with regularly. These are people who kind of know you at this point. And playing against for money. And playing against. And so they know, how long can you try a gambit like that before they just know you're telling the truth? Or you run out of money. It turns out about an hour. Okay. Sounds good. But I really was for a while being like, it will really mess with their brain if I just announce the cards I have. Because they won't know if I'm telling the truth or not. And you always tell the truth, at least in this instance. Sometimes. That's how I keep them guessing, though. I have a feeling these people do not listen to this podcast Would I be right about that Do they even know your real name I hope they don't I hope to god they don't Aldism Because I owe some very bad people a lot of money I don't know if I'm saying this right A-L-Y-S-M Aldism Hmm That's not a very good one Let's move on Shiviness shiviness s-h-i-v-v-i-n-e-s-s shiviness um and is that when you're shivering and you're cold it you're you know motion of being cold no but it is kind of it is a word that sort of sounds like um what it's you know it's a word that sounds like what it describes again back to onomatopoeia A little bit, yeah. Shiviness. Is it when you're...

knifing someone in a prison environment for shiving them it's it's from that it's a tiny splinter or fragment of something or else a loose thread sticking out of a piece of fabric you know what i think it you know what this reminds me of we have pillows on our bed we're doing okay all right and we have four pillows on our bed we have um the the regular pillows that we put our heads on but then we do have two like um they're not decorative pillows they're still just like regular bed pillows but we have like um you know covers on them that match the bed spread right and for the most part i don't really put my head on those pillows every now and then i do but when i do i realize oh these are real down pillows luke and that sounds like a very nice thing a little pokey feather yes and i think that's shiviness or potentially shiviness depending on how you pronounce that but yeah because like okay you do you have any pillows like that it's a very strange phenomenon then you pull the feather out and that's sort of satisfying almost like popping a pimple but then you're like what am i doing i'm pulling all the feathers out of my

pillow this is one less feather in this i do have down pillows on my bed um and i don't know if it's the particular pillow i purchased or the the um pillowcase but i haven't had a lot of that thing that you're talking about which i used to as a kid my mom's obsessed with flannel sheets oh yeah i think my mom loves flannel sheets because they're the most likely sheets to occur at a rummage sale but we grew up with a lot of flannel sheets and a lot of flannel pillowcases and a lot of down and it felt like those feathers were always working their way out of the pillow

and poking out. Yeah, even through the flannel which is a thicker material. A little shivviness. I also wonder if that flannel thing is a very Pacific Northwest thing too it feels like to me. I feel like warm sheets are warm sheets all over the country but there's something about that. I wonder if same time period if your mom lived in Ohio if she'd be still coming across

those those style sheets my mom's two obsessions from a fabric standpoint were and i probably remain flannel and then cotton all cotton she was like like she'd be constantly buying things at like you know a rummage sale and then trying to get me to wear them being it's all cotton like and if you were to put uh polyester on my mom she would literally catch on fire she was polyester was her enemy is her enemy but all cotton and flannel she loves that stuff is it flammable though that's the question is the poly polyester is it flammable no it's flame retardant right probably probably i mean there was a reason why they were polyester was a thing but polyester and um what's the other lima beans those two things impacted my mom in some deep way that I'll never know but they were both non-starters in our household lima beans never darkened the door of our house and uh polyester anything also did not darken the door I could get down with

that lima beans thing you know as a picky eater growing up but then there were some things that my parents were like okay you know like you know mayonnaise based stuff and cheese like I didn't nobody forced me to eat that kind of stuff but with vegetables it was like it didn't matter if I liked it or not but I did not like like beans I'm not talking about like baked beans or whatever But I'm talking about green beans I really disliked And lima beans Don't get into talking about beans Don't get into talking about beans Until the sun comes up I hated lima beans so much I mean I had to eat them And I don't know how my mom prepared them

How did the lima bean industry get over on Americans In the 1960s, 70s, and 80s I feel like no one eats lima beans anymore They were so dry And they were very much a thing though Again not in my childhood Because my mom was subjected to them But like you were subjected to lima beans Who did the lima bean industry Have some kind of scandalous photos on

Yeah, the lima bean council That's what it was Here, I'll give you Faced in Lima, Ohio I want to get you at least one more of these Because this is one that I read yesterday That I was excited about You are, I think you're 10 for 10 And here's question number 5 Oops, that's the wrong one I'm feeling shivvy as Bubbles digs her claws Into my legs right now Uh oh, she doesn't like this segment um deja visite deja okay visite and i feel like this is one you can sort of you can sort of puzzle out a little bit yeah so deja what do you usually think of deja deja vu right exactly the the gentleman's club in north seattle physically visiting a place well um it's close so what is deja vu luke burbank it is the sense that you have done this before but you can't quite put your finger on it exactly now visit a it describes the peculiar sensation of knowing your way around somewhere you've never been before okay well i think i was kind of right on that i said you're very deja vu in real life i didn't say it that way But that's what I was kind of like that. You know, I can't tell from this mental floss definition if it means that you are accurately able to navigate an unknown place or if it just gives you the feeling like you've been there before. But I really like that. Deja vu is one of the most strange parts of the human experience. Don't you think?

You know, one of those like it makes no series that smell triggers deja vu. We were talking about the smell in your grandparents, you know, kind of like pantry or whatever closet. There are some there's some compelling science around deja vu and that it's triggered by smell.

That makes a lot of sense. I mean, I feel like my olfactory nerves or whatever it is are definitely like it definitely triggers nostalgia in me more than any other sense. What do you think fat sorrow is? F.A.T. dash sorrow. How I feel most days. Yeah. Nope, it's not about weight or health. F-A-T? F-A-T-SOROW.

S-O-R-R-O-W? Exactly, yep. F-A-T-SOROW. But it has nothing to do with someone's sort of conception of their body.

No, it is actually an idea that goes against conventional wisdom when it comes to riches and happiness.

Huh. what is there i know i already made this joke but is there a nation of origin does it say like

where this might be from this one is a very this is a very um because the hyphen in there makes me think that this is not an english phrase but um it's sadness alleviated by material things oh so like my life for brief moments for very brief moments just hopping from fat sorrow to

fat sorrow i'm holding the cards that i think are going to beat everybody else in the game

i'm hopping from fat sorrow to fat sorrow oh this is one that um could apply to us crapulence what do you think crapulence is oh i know crapulence do you what is it well i've heard it before i i you know what i over promise and i'm gonna you did that backwards you're supposed

to do it the other way crap crapulence i've heard that word before because it's just silly word And I was confusing an amount with corpulence, which is to be sort of large, to be corpulent.

And round, I think, yeah.

But crapulent, I don't know what it actually means.

It's basically a really bad hangover. When the word hangover just won't do justice, there's crapulence. As the OED defines it. I think I've been crapulent recently. I think I just crapulenced my pants. a crapulence is a feeling of sickness or indisposition resulting from the excess of drinking or or eating so that's interesting crapulence crapulence oops i crapulence my

pants remember that snl sketch i do um what's the killer part of that sketch for you if you

i don't know how i mean i don't remember you remember i don't remember it all that well it was like it was for adult diapers right i think yeah and and you know i mean one of the things

that we've learned even on this show is that like making diapers a punchline yeah adult diapers a punchline is not really that thoughtful because there are folks that uh you know that that's something that they that they use in their life of all let's not make a joke out of it there was a moment in the in the this pretend commercial though where the woman says imagine this iced tea is three gallons of my feces and she pours it with these sliced lemons into the diaper and there's just something about using the iced tea as a visual and calling it like imagine this is three gallons of my feces that just made me laugh so hard oh by the way i dated this mental floss

article as 2019 when you get to the bottom of it it says this list first appeared in 2017 so thank you tbtl even fresher so like this was made in 2017 mental floss in 2019 was like we need something can we go to the archives and republish it slow Wednesday mental flaw four years later pocket is like we have a hole at the top of our newsletter what can we grab let's grab so this is the last one I'm going to share with you and I like this one a lot huck muck huck muck

it sounds like the feeling when you're kicking up dust and making a distraction that shouldn't be like basically everything donald trump does is a huckma oh that's interesting and you know

what luke i feel literally you're not right but literally that's it that's all i have to say literally you're not right no but in a certain way i feel like figuratively you could use it that way i mean i'm learning of this right now for the first time so i could be wrong but It says here, according to the English dialect dictionary, it's.

confusion that comes from things not being in their right place like when you've moved everything around while you're cleaning your house it's called huck muck right when everything's out of

place before you can actually put it back in place that moment where everything is chaotic yeah i

just did this two nights ago i had to clean the kitchen floor which i do our floor is kind of old and it's mostly kind of white colored so it's just like it doesn't hide anything i just it's also got like kind of scars and stuff on it i just feel like i can never get my kitchen floor clean enough but um the other day i had an opportunity uh to like genevieve wasn't home yet so i pulled everything out of the kitchen got the two chairs out of there got the garbage can out of there and the the the water fountain for the cat moved the kitchen table vacuumed everything and uh and mopped it and so during that time i was waiting for the floor to dry that was huck muck now figuratively what you described like somebody just kind of creating chaos in a in a conversation or some sort of a communal or conversational situation couldn't that be huck muck as well somebody kind

of sure creating disorder yeah exactly like it doesn't have to be like literal figurative disorder in terms of physical things it could just be you know making everything chaotic conversationally yeah i take the i'm taking the w i think you should and i think that listeners

this is my challenge for you this is how we'll wrap up the segment my challenge for you tens of listeners this weekend find a way to say some not just to use the word hukmuk in a sentence but to actually utter this sentence to one of your friends you just used hukmuk figuratively but not literally yeah that doesn't really work never mind don't do that just enjoy we're trying to have our listeners get less bullied andrew i guess i think what i meant to say was try to say to somebody you've created huck muck figuratively but not literally and they just walk out of the

room quit all this huck muck yes yes when your like partner is just muddying the waters unnecessarily all right enough huck muck enough huck muck okay that's it that's our new power out show title

enough huck muck enough huck muck exclamation point question mark there's a right way to rock Get a wrong way to roll, you can just listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one, you can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun, you can be nothing but one.

Oops, I blursed my pants. I meant to leave that first message off the list that I emailed you. Luke, is tomorrow your Blurs Day? Do I have that right? Today's not your Blurs Day, is it? I don't think so. I think it's like maybe Monday or something. Okay, are you trying to keep it a little bit closer to that?

No, I just feel like 47 is not an age that bears any... For me, I don't want to make our friends who are... I don't want to tell my 47-year-old folks to not feel great about it. But for me, it does not feel like a particularly august year. But it's not the fifth.

For some reason, I always think it's the fifth. I think I have another friend. It's the eighth. I always think that your birthday is the fifth because, number one, I mean, you got the whole Cinco de Mayo thing going on. I think I have another friend whose birthday is the fifth. But more importantly, you mentioned the Kentucky Derby. And, you know, for a couple of years in a row, I would go with you and a group of friends to the Kentucky Derby at Emerald Downs. Is that where we go? Yes. And and so when you were talking about that at the top of the show, I almost wanted to raise your your birthday. But I figured I'd try to try to keep on the down low for now. So no big plans or anything like that.

Sounds like you're really downplaying it this year. Well, we're going to, as I mentioned at the very beginning of the show, So we're going to – Becca and I are going to a Kentucky Derby party here in Portland on Saturday, which I guess will kind of be adjacent to the day of my birth. But I have mixed feelings about it. Now, there will be no actual – you know what really got me? So Becca has a friend who is very careful and conscientious around the lives of animals. and this person is a vegan but not in an annoying way not you know she's so not um i don't know how you put it she's just not annoying about it but becca was like oh i invited her and she was like yeah that's probably a little too much horses for me yeah and it reminded me that i also don't really love the idea of horse racing i don't think it's great for the horses at all but my love of drinking mint juleps and wearing seersucker I guess is more important than horses not being

more or less tortured well it's always funny how I mean you you build a whole day around something like this um and the race itself lasts 90 seconds or how long does that yeah a couple minutes yeah

So you're going to be at a – is it kind of an outdoor garden party kind of thing?

Yeah, it's like there will be no horses there. Right, yeah. You know, like it's just in honor of it, they'll probably be on a TV or something. I also don't know how to bet the horses. It's one of the few modes of gambling that I don't have any kind of weird too muchness with. So on those levels, it should be fine for me. But it is not a thing that I feel great about for the horses. But I will be there celebrating it on Saturday in honor of my birthday.

Nice. Now, I have another question for you, and I don't know if this is the smart direction to take this. But out of curiosity, when you say betting on the horses, at a private party like this, there will be an opportunity. And maybe you don't want to talk about this. And if that's the case, I'll just move on and read Kate's Blur's Day message to you. But is there an opportunity to bet amongst the people at this party? Is it some sort of like kind of a big thing where they've created that opportunity?

Well, I'm going to get real with you, Andrew. So Becca's brother Is this really awesome guy Named Scott who I love And his wife is this wonderful woman Named Tiffany And Scott and Tiffany went to this Scott is DJing at this thing He is an amazing DJ I've seen him at various places His musical knowledge and his choice of songs Is really incredible Apparently before the pandemic This is the first time they've done this since the pandemic And they're not running the party They're just friends with the people that do it apparently the last time this happened Tiffany was in charge of paying out the bets and I love Tiffany but I don't think she knows shit all about the horse racing nor do I I don't want two people who don't understand how I mean it is horse racing is wildly complicated you know like when you go to the when you're at the real place where they do it it's like i would practice my speech when i would get up to the window of like okay exact a bet um to place to show like you know you i would be rehearsing it because it's the language is so specific and the the sort of i guess math of it is so specific so you can apparently bet on the horses here but

it may or may not be run by tiffany i see and so you might not get involved in that i probably won't

because again i wouldn't know if i was getting the right payout or not uh-huh and that kind of throws it for me and that's not me saying that Tiffany doesn't know what she's doing I'm just saying she doesn't know anything about horse racing

i.e. what she's doing I'm not saying that Tiffany doesn't know what she's doing I'm just saying she doesn't know understand the

principles of now I might have missed part of the story too it might have been a thing where she was tasked with distributing the money that had already been sort of allocated to people based on their winnings but the way I heard the story it sounded like a real royal shit show really that i am not going to be throwing down my hard earned my hard won money on the mariners i'm not going to repurpose it on kentucky derby bets that i

don't understand yeah it sounds like it's one of those things where and we should really get to the first days here but it sounds like you take your you have a certain i don't know if i should say you take it super seriously because you like to have fun with your side bets or whatever but

like you're fun for me if i feel like there's a system that's reliable right exactly and like to

But to bet with a bunch, you know, kind of a more friendly bet situation with a bunch of people at a party, it might bring out a certain competitive edge in you. It just doesn't seem like it's maybe the right fit for your kind of getting.

Problem gambling.

Yes, exactly.

I mean, seriously, like, I'm the most unfun person if you're like, let's play, let's all play poker for nickels.

Raisins, yeah.

For raisins, for sweet tarts. Yeah. Like, miss me with that. Yeah, I don't need sweet tarts. Are we getting real or are we not getting real? If I can't offer my mortgage as collateral on this, I'm not into it.

Let's sign those business papers.

By the way, can I live in your basement, please?

I find myself with a pickle. Where we keep all of our important business papers, like our mortgage? No, you cannot.

Just your social security numbers and other important personal details.

Well, Kate from Rhode Island wanted to say, happy Blur's Day, Lukals. Hope it's wonderful. Thanks, Kate. And thanks for continuing to help cure global loneliness. Try not to bet with your friends this weekend.

Hey, Kate, what's your basement situation? Could you let a Lukals crash for a minute? Charlotte. Charlotte says, my mom is a huge fan of the show and has converted my father to a 10. I am a proud five, and I was wondering if you would do a birthday message for my mom. Here it is. Happy birthday, Jessica, in Haddonfield, New Jersey. Love, Andy, Charlotte, Georgia, and your two angels who poop in a box, Oliver and Gracie. It's time for cat massage.

Time for cat massage.

Solid message from Charlotte. Thank you, Charlotte. I included your little intro to the... Official Blur's Day message as well. I hope that's okay. I liked the context that you offered. Happy Blur's Day. Heidi says, please wish my wife and longtime 10 the happiest of Blur's Days. I think this might be the Blur's Day message that doesn't mention who the recipient is, but I'm going to guess that Heidi knows what she's doing and the recipient. If your wife is named Heidi and you're listening to this, this is for you.

We've narrowed it down significantly.

I'm so grateful to have someone by my side who can make every phase of life a delight, from raising our children to embracing our empty nester status. You make me laugh and keep me sane. Look forward to our trip to Italy this summer with the kids. I know we will enjoy every moment we always do when all four of us are together. TBTL-a-thon, Tuscany. Listen to the alliterative possibilities. What is the Starbucks drink with the olive oil? Oleo? Oleo, oleo, oleo, TBTL, oleo, oleo.

Love it. Judy says, Friday is my Blur's Day, and nothing would make me happier than having you and or Luke give me a shout-out for the last Blur's Day of my 50s. Calm down, Bubbles. No, Bubbles is into it. I am celebrating. Yeah, Judy, Bubbles is hurt that you didn't mention her in this. I am celebrating my birthday by signing up for the new independent TBTL newsletter. Oh, nice. Thank you. Actually, I already did. Just trying to dazzle you.

Thanks, Judy. We love that. Thank you. Oh, fabulous. As we transfer our email systems here and all of our systems here at the end of June, we're asking people to sign up for the new TBTL newsletter. If you go to tbtl.net, scroll down a little ways, you'll see a little button that says extra, extra new newsletter here. Sign up, folks.

Sorry, I had to yell at Bubbles to stop trying to... She is obsessed with sending faxes.

Oh, yeah. No, my cats love the fax.

It's her favorite part of the printer slash fax machine that I use.

Yeah, I love my guy Bingo, but he's always getting up on... And first of all, he gets up on the printer and it makes all these creaky plastic noises because, you know, my printer is also like, you know, and I just hate the sound of that anyway. It sounds like he's going to bust the thing. And then the beeps start as he starts walking on the buttons and he's sending a fax to 1998. Not to mention that she faxed Rich Gazarian. Oh, well, you know what? So now we have to have him on the show. Yeah, well, the worm has turned. It sure has. Ruby says, I want to wish... Oh, our pal Ruby. Thank you, Rich Gazarian. I want to wish the happiest of Blur's days to my literal and TBTL progenitor, Susan. You're the best mom a weird kid like me could have asked for, and you're always an inspiration. Hopefully, we can get the band back together sometime soon, but in the meantime, the sisterhood of the Traveling Tonight Pants travels to Malibu. In a month, ooh, Malibu. Must be nice. I've been to Malibu. It's nice out there.

I don't know if I've ever been to Malibu, Andrew. Oh, really? For all my time in Los Angeles, I went to Ventura, I went to Topanga. I don't think I ever spent any significant time in legit Malibu.

I don't know if I spent more than one evening there, but I do know one time I had a friend visiting from Boston and she had a tradition of renting a nice house right on the water in Malibu. And I remember driving along that highway to get out there, that two-lane highway where... PCH. Yes. And isn't that... Why would I make it dark? But isn't that where... Who's everybody's least favorite anti-Semitic Australian actor? Oh, Mad Max. Sure, Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson.

I thought you were going to say, isn't that where Caitlyn Jenner crashed into someone and killed them? Also the PCH. A lot of history on that road, Andrew Anyway, happy Blur's Day, Reed

Happy Blur's Day, Susan And you have Reeds here?

Yes, truly a happy Blur's Day To Trina From Tenver On her actual blurs That would be today This is from Reed, by the way Yes Trina is one of the Ten's That Luke followed To a second location From Local 46 I remember this She is doing her best To keep our squad of Denver Ten's getting together and we appreciate it. Added message here. Robin in Denver also says, happy blurs to Trina. Can I buy you a drink at the Crowbar soon? That is one of the places we went. Oh, really? And a what would you call it? A madcap group of misfits. We wander, including a guy who is sort of the local television news person of Denver.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Which is funny because he keeps popping up in my tiktok now yeah and i follow him on some various social medias um and uh yeah he's mutual friends with a bunch of tens very nice guy and he's a great guy and i actually really like his i like his

broadcasting he certainly seems to be on the right side of a lot of these issues if you will like i'm i'm a fan but it was funny because we were walking around and i was like all right there's going to be a certain amount of attention paid to me and andrew the hosts of the tbtl podcast it turns out no people were more excited to see denver's leading local news person exactly

this listener christina who's writing in from russia by the way christina says last week i I was the 10 of the week, which I was so excited about. And this week, on May 4th, I have my birthday. I'm turning 30. Another Taurus. Is it Taurus season? Taurus?

I don't know. That's my thing. But I don't know what the range of that is. I went out on a limb, and I regret it already.

Christina says, I wish myself to be healthy and happy all the time, travel a lot, and enjoy life as it is. Love it. Thanks, Christina. Happy blurs.

Julie says, please wish my friend and co-worker Rhoda a happy Blur's Day. Rhoda, this work week has been long and boring without you. I can't wait until you're back so I can tell you about all the drops I used in conversations with people who have no idea how clever I'm being. It's also feather finding season again. Just in time for your birthday. I hope you have a fabulous day. That's awesome. Feather finding season.

I love that. We've talked about that, right? I don't think so. Birds are molting, I guess.

Maybe I read an article about it

Probably in the New Yorkers Is that just something that's kind of Because I mean there's obviously in the past like 5 to 10 years A huge I think uptick In people bird watching And showing a lot of interest in birds Obviously that's hit our family Very close to home with Genevieve's birdiness And do you think the feather finding Is kind of part of that or an extension of that Trend

I just I remember again it might have just been An article or a radio story I heard about a certain time of year where you can go out and you can yeah because I think of the molting or something you can find feathers and people love that. That's

great. When I was a kid we found feathers in the yard and I would put them in my mouth and I think about that now. Oh yeah I'd do that right now. Oh my god and is there anything dirtier than a bird? I mean it. My hands after bluffing people at poker. My hands after touching a bird. My soul after playing late night poker at the 715 club. Diadly says our pal Diadly says I want to wish a happy second Blursday A second Blur's Day to my brilliant and awesomely fierce daughter. Are you kidding me? This kid is two already? I know. Ayana Rose. I remember when she was being born. Ayana Rose. I think I'm saying that right. Ayana? Is that how you pronounce Ayana's first name? That's how I would say it. I love our special sing-alongs in the car and living room dance parties. Mommy and Daddy, love you as big as the world, Ayana Bear. Is it too late for us to have a kid together, Andrew?

I'll talk to the doctor. Can we call her Ayana Bear? Okay. Now we're getting into infringement. Certifiably adorable. Happy Blur's Day. April in Maine says, I want to say happy birthday to my youngest five, Merit, who turns eight on Friday. I love him a kajillion, bazillion, quadrillion, million, 500,000, and 63. And I'm so lucky to get to be his mommy. 64 was just a little bit much. Kind of overkill.

Just had to dial it back a tiny bit.

Don't spoil the boy, April.

Happy Blur's Day, Merit. and my pal colette says happy birthday to christopher issuer of the tbtl sports corrections in the stens facebook group i don't know if i want to hang out that part of the stens i assume i'm being corrected and probably for good reason i've never made a mistake or fumbled anything while talking about sports luke so it must all all of that heat must be on you hope your birthday is more enjoyable than the mariners city connect uniforms color pairings now have you been makes

it sound like colette does not dig those unis i have to say i think they're pretty they're pretty

nice it's interesting colette is the very first person who i've heard who does not like the new mariners uniforms that will debut this friday and at the beginning of their homestand against houston i think it's funny i i was getting emails from people around the country like friends of mine who love to follow uniform and uniform news and you know you know major league uniforms are quite the big deal these days and every i thought that they were getting these new uniforms were just getting all 100 positive reaction from everybody i know colette's the first person i don't have a strong opinion on it i kind of like the logo i think the con the the controversy is the dark blue with the black pants i grew up thinking that dark blue and black don't go

together i also grew up thinking that but i'm flaunting that now but i always hate myself for it i wear a lot of black t-shirts with this navy blue kind of fleece collared shirt over it and i always think of my mom saying navy blue and black they don't those clash those those should not be together but you

like the way it looks but you have to sort of overcome that instinct it's laziness really I don't want to wear

totally monochromatically I don't want to wear all the same color but I also don't like I don't wear red or plaid really or white I just I mostly wear primary colors and those primary colors being black or navy blue but my question is are the are the letters on the City Connect jerseys are Are those stitched on or are those printed on? Oh, I would assume that they're always stitched on. I don't know. I would, too. But I was looking at them last night. They were showing some kind of interstitial whatever. And I couldn't. It doesn't have the kind of stitching where you can see the stitches kind of visibly.

I'm looking a little more closely now. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. I mean, I would assume that any major. I don't think they're going to be, like, just, like, screen printed on. Screen printed on. I was going to say ironed on. Wouldn't that be something? The City Connect. Oh, it's from a pretty lousy city where you iron on. These are the Valley City, Ohio City Connect uniforms for the frog jump competition.

I believe our friend Steve Newman, a.k.a. the StewBot. Oh, yeah, buddy. Said when we lost a particularly Crushing game to Toronto You flew too close to the sun In your City Connect jerseys

You know what I don't see Enough of Coronavirus gets you You are right though because of like There's like this drop shadow There's a drop shadow sort of underneath The font

I'm with you that it would make no sense For it to not be stitched But I don't see the stitching In a sort of public An outward facing enough way for me to know it's

Happening yeah that because yeah there's almost Like a kind of a fake beveling With the coloring and lighting of the Shadow and then a drop shadow yeah

Just be like As if it was

Ironed on I'm gonna say Something is somewhat negative About somebody I don't know um and I don't know if my I like These new uniforms I think you know I sort of have mixed emotions about Stuff like this like obviously teams Release stuff like this and various versions of uniforms so that they can sell more merch right and I mean

it's a big part of color rush jerseys in the NFL for instance exactly

and even like the you know even the the salute to armed forces so there will be a certain time this summer those I collect yes exactly like you can get like every team will release some sort of a camo colored version of their ball cap because they'll wear it for one game or one I want

to be I want to cosplay as Ron Rivera what does that mean like he's just the coach of the of the football team from dc but i feel like he may have literally been in the military but i feel like he's the most camoed yes like ron rivera just reeks of salute to armed forces to me isn't he always wearing the dark sunglasses

too does he work yes dark reference i don't know if they're wraparounds but yeah i can i can totally picture that guy um but um i mean i like these uniforms it's gonna it's exciting i don't think i'm gonna be at the ballpark oh i know i won't be at the ballpark on friday but you know i can see kind of getting excited for that um and i was watching the game last night which is not a not a home game so this is the mariners playing the a's in oakland and again it's kind of it's it

makes me feel bad like the they literally said on the broadcast in front of tens of people yes i

heard that calm down i know i heard i heard that too i think they i think they literally luke had an attendance last night of like 3,000 people.

Announced attendance of 2,600. Oh, 2,600. Announced attendance is always wildly overestimated. So it sounds like there was, after the rain delay, less than 1,000 people in that stadium.

It was so, you could just hear, it sounded like a sad spring training game, sort of, you could just hear one or two obnoxious fan voices screaming. You could hear everything they were saying because there wasn't enough crowd noise to cover everything up. But there was one Mariners fan there with his friend who was right behind home plate. So already now, again, it sounds like the tickets are probably more affordable right now. Is it is it called Ricky Henderson Park? What is that park called? I don't I don't know.

I don't know. But I would be shocked if it didn't have some terrible. Yeah. Who was that? Like we work stadium or some shit. It's not called that. But like, you know, like gallery furniture dot com or whatever. Like, what's the worst one is Bankrate Field.

Oh, it's not. It's not Bankrate, though, is it? It's is it.

Is it something like that?

Actually, it might just be called the Oakland Coliseum, though, Luke.

Right. There is a place called Bankrate Field. You know, let me give that. You know what? You have to give it to him. If it is called the Oakland Coliseum still. Props, honestly props for not, you know, selling out to some bizarre, like, fly-by-night Sam Bankman freed stadium or whatever.

Right, exactly. Of course, as we discussed earlier on the show, they're abandoning all of this anyway, it sounds like, to go to Vegas. It's just like kind of a—the whole thing is pretty sad.

Where I'm sure they will stay with the convention of naming the stadium for the local municipalities. Yes, exactly. I don't see a Vegas stadium having any kind of ridiculous thing.

You don't think they're going to tap into the rich history of athletics fandom that Nevada has to offer?

It's going to be the Jeff Dunham two weeks only racist puppet theater.

Oh, my God. I thought me mispronouncing Nevada was going to be the worst part of that. Okay, so all of this is to say there's this fella. He's right behind home plate, but he's a visiting Mariners fan, right? I saw him. You know exactly what I'm talking about. he already had on the brand new city connect hat with the brand new city connect jersey and i was just kind of like dial it back a little bit like maybe by the jersey but where i don't know there was something that seemed so kind of i i don't even know why what what reaction did you have from that because i was kind of like oh here's this guy who just went out less fixated on the

jersey and more fixated on the fact that by the about eighth or ninth inning that area that's behind home plate which is the most premium it's the caviar of baseball seats was two-thirds and yeah even that was empty yeah are you where do you have to be right now that you don't want to watch the entirety of this game from the most primo seats where they bring you where they bring you food and drink free food and alcohol if it's anything like that it's called the diamond club at i was going to call it safeco at whatever wherever the mariners play um uh mattress mac stadium wherever the mariners play like i just really like this is wasted on on like that is the that is the most exciting place that you can watch a baseball game from and you're at the eighth inning you just had to run upshaw like i was that was what i was fixated on like by the end of that game even the primo seats were empty and i was like there is nothing more interesting than this happening in your life and you're not beating traffic because there's eight people at this game

except the one person who stuck around to the end was the Mariners fan with all the new stuff. There was something about it that reminded me of... With the Iron-On Color Rush? Yeah, the City Connect uniform. It reminded me of... And this fellow might be the nicest guy in the world, but it just seemed a little nerdy and extravagant to me at the same time. Like, to go, I'm going to buy the new thing, I'm going to go to the game, and I'll bet you this person was super excited and is a huge Mariners fan. He's probably been a lifelong Mariners fan and has way more cred than me. And maybe even a listener, But for some reason, it sort of gave me a vibe of Pee-wee Herman's nemesis at the beginning of Pee-wee's Big Adventure. My dad says I can have anything I want. I can buy the jersey and the City Connect hat.

By the way, that guy, Francis, is also in Teen Wolf, and he's one of the worst violators of basketballs going through hoops from angles they were not shot from.

You mean not as the character, but from the production standpoint of the movie.

It's not his fault. But he, when the Teen Wolf thing really takes off for that team, there's a lot of scenes of Francis shooting the ball from angles that make no sense. If only he would have studied under Shaquille O'Neal's mother.

Yeah, exactly. Or her producers. Oh, yeah, buddy.

Anyway. All right. Good show. Heck of a show. I remember nothing from it, but it felt good. It's just raining torrentially here right now. I don't know what's happening in Seattle.

It's not doing that quite here yet, but it's going to be pretty rotten. Like, yesterday was gorge, Lou. It was gorgeous here. It was so nice. Perfect day to mow my lawn. It looks great out there. Now it's going to rain for the next four days.

Well, I'm glad you got that in. Yes, it is. Getting crummy. Anyway, thanks for listening, everybody. We are going to be right back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio for you. In the meantime, have yourselves a great Thursday. Stay dry. Go Mariners. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, buddy.

Power out.