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Calamine, calamine, calamine lotion. Oh, no, no, no, not the lotion. Itchy, itchy, scratchy, scratchy, ooh, I got one on my backy. Itchy, itchy, scratchy, scratchy. Hey, I got it. This is Michael in Olympia.

TBTL! Hey, you know, if we knocked down that wall, It would really open the place up. You know, clean up the blood, maybe add some French doors, maybe a ping pong table right there. You know, I'm just ripping.

Yeah, I guess we both have our little secrets, don't we? Well, that's hilarious. Absolutely, Luke.

How drunk are you?

A lot to vary. Last time I checked, audio was the second most important part of the audio-video experience.

How can they say this about me? I don't believe it. I show them. I record everything.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Tuesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

The burgers here are good, the chicken nuggets are good, the fries are good, and the soda pop is really good.

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. We do not have time for this kind of silliness. Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where it is absolutely spectacularly beautiful. Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful. yesterday when I came to you all I was talking about how warm it was but how there was some kind of allegation of thunderstorms and we went through the whole day we went until about 7 p.m. here in Portland with no thunderstorms to speak of and I was starting to really regret that I put that into the universe because I thought well that's just not accurate and then when those thunderstorms Moved in at about 7 p.m. Boy, did they move in. It was like apocalyptic. It was antediluvian. It was really something. This is going to be really something. It's episode 3945. Let the fun begin. In a collector series. And, you know, we talk a lot about hotels and sky jinx and things of that nature on this show. and there is a group of folks that are advocating very seriously for more hotel room cleaning and it's a group of folks that i guess i wouldn't have suspected clean as your mama's forehead but if you think about it it makes a lot of sense we're going to talk about that also speaking of rooms with a view there is a guy who is staying in a room I think he's in day, like, 75. He's getting a lot of media coverage for staying in this room, and I think he needs to kind of calm it down. Simmer down, Stu. We'll talk about that. And also, we'll talk to this guy, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships.

You're, like, the coolest person I've ever met.

He sure is. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Oh, hello, Batty. I'm sorry. I know. Sorry, it's a loop.

I do know that I've been somebody was asking on Instagram about a no ho Hank drop from like yesterday or two days ago.

Oh, somebody else hit you up directly on Instagram.

Flippity flop. Oh, yes. Yes. At the very end of the show. And then someone filled them in. And then the person who asked said, oh, my God, thank you. I was going to go crazy waiting to know what that is.

Oh, that's interesting. So this wasn't just something that somebody sent you directly as a direct message. This was something you picked. People were using Instagram to discuss an episode of TBTL.

Apparently, I think it was a comment on probably some kind of video of Bubbles, because, you know, that's the only content that I tend to provide to the Instagram folk. And yes, somebody in an Instagram comment on something like that said, what was that that drop that played after the show? I feel like I know it, but I can't think of it. And then someone said, I think that's NoHoHank. And then the person was like, oh, my God, thank you.

Yeah, so for folks who don't know what the hell we're talking about, I am catching up on the show Barry on HBO. It's been out forever. And, I mean, I guess it started right before the pandemic, right? Then they had to take a, I think maybe they had to pause production for a while. But I believe their final season is airing now, Luke. Airing, in quotes. I guess it doesn't really air if it's on Max. If it's on, what is it, Discovery Max? Maybe it doesn't actually air. but anyway yeah that's a world's deadliest succession it's a very noho hank is a very real pastiche is a very charismatic um character on that and so yeah once you start watching it like because i did not watch barry for the longest time but you did and genevieve did and people would just refer to noho hank and like genevieve could not she'd be like doesn't that guy look like noho hank i'm like i don't know what you're

talking about and now that i'm catching up i'm like oh now i know why everybody's obsessed with noho hank saying things like i'm just riffing now the thing is i um do the worst imitation of noho hank that you could possibly imagine that's really not a bad imitation well okay thank you i have lowered the bar over the years i don't i'm not especially that's not your worst imitation yes that's not my and genevieve uh i would say her imitation is about as good as mine um and so we will go through the house just talking to each other in the worst just ping-ponging back and forth and i know she can probably hear me just no hanging it back and forth and i just think thank god nobody's recording this i do not want to end up at the pearly gates and they're deciding whether or not i get to enter and they're like well there was this month in 2023 where you talked like this exclusively with your partner i think that will condemn me for some reason uh becca forwarded me

some kind of new yorker cartoon the other day and it was like a person at the pearly gates trying to get access to heaven and uh like peter whoever was like oh one time he was at the airport and the uh agent said have a good flight and he said you too yeah and they're like straight to hell yeah i think the biggest takeaway from no ho hank is that apparently they made no ho a thing I was living in L.A. when they were trying to make North Hollywood no-ho, like as in Soho. And I was like, no one's buying this. I've never heard a person refer to North Hollywood as no-ho outside of the character of no-ho Hank.

Yes, because like, and I didn't know that there was an effort like to actually kind of shorten it to that. But I mean, there is North Hollywood, right? People live in North Hollywood. That's a designation. But I'd never heard no-ho before. I didn't even know that that was a thing they were trying to get off the ground. But, I mean, even if it wasn't a successful marketing effort on behalf of the community or the neighborhood, it's even more NoHo Hank to adopt it himself, isn't it? You're right.

Oh, my God. I love it. The writers of Barry are, like, putting a subtle burn on the, like, Chamber of Commerce from North Hollywood.

Yeah, right. Right, yeah.

They're trying to make NoHo a thing, and they're like, you know, who would actually be like, oh, it's NoHo. Right. This guy Where is he from in the lore of the program I think he's from Armenia or something It's a former Russian Exactly

I think he's Chechen I think he's Chechen And by the way I'll just play We heard in the intro today that little bit of him talking about Once you clean up the blood Putting a ping pong table over there I'm just riffing but then this is the one we played at the very end of the show It's only three seconds it goes by quickly Alright deck of the run See you on the flippy flops See you on the flippy flops

Has there ever been a more lovable killer? Oh my god Yeah, we love him so much And I don't know I don't feel like this is Something that we should bring into the conversation Because I think we want to live in a world where We don't discuss This is not a focus for us But it's interesting that he does have The actor I believe who plays Noho Hank Has probably alopecia totalis so he does he's totally non her suit he has no hair and i don't think that's ever part of his plot line right and i only watched through season two do they ever get into that you know i think

i've i i'm not that far ahead of you i think i've just finished season two and i'm kind of somewhere near the beginning of season three but no i didn't know that the actor had that i wasn't sure if he was shaved or or how much he was sort of made up for this particular role but no i don't think the

The actor is extremely non-hersuit, and just like – I love that that's – I love that it's not commented on, although I'm slightly embarrassed that I'm commenting on it.

Yeah, it's just who he is. Like, his character is just inexplicable. It's just inexplicable. He's got a – what's the French famous – Joie de vivre. He's got a joie de vivre, exactly, that is just like so out of place in his universe. It's just like to see such a – and he does some very bad things, and he hires people to do very bad. things but he's got he just love you know he definitely has that again joie de vivre but also that like somebody who's really just enjoying america you know he really is i mean he's just

going for it like if he wasn't involved in organized crime he'd be running a uh like a tully's giving it the same amount of zeal yes right exactly zest yeah andrew i have to tell you something i i know that i said a while ago i think i'm a hockey guy now but i think i'm really a hockey guy last night the seattle kraken lost in game seven of the um you know the the round of the playoffs they happen to be in against the dallas stars and i felt something really shifting and i had no money on the game by the way this is not a gambling related feeling

I just was like, this is the most fun sport to watch. It's like football meets soccer with ice dancing. Like, I put them off for two seasons, and it's fully got me. Ice fighting as well. They don't fight, though. That's the whole thing. Like, I've watched over four games, and they've never fought. No, I was talking to a hockey knower the other day. I was like, yeah, but they fight. He's like, yeah, they don't really do that anymore. I saw something the other day Put a real dent in that

It wasn't the Kraken Genevieve and I happened to be at Teddy's I don't know, I think it was a Wednesday or Thursday last week And we were watching whatever game was on I want to say it was the Florida Panthers Versus somebody else And the game ended And then immediately a fight broke out Directly behind the goal It's the goal, right? I'm not even joking I think it was a very close game I think they lost by, like, one point. Do they call them points? I feel like I'm doing a bit. I'm not. Just a goal. Okay. So they lost. I think one team was down by one goal.

I love that I have three games on you, and now I am the expert. Like, I've literally watched three games.

I will still sometimes mention points in baseball, and it's always the most embarrassing thing, so I'm trying to be careful here. Everything sounds foreign as it comes out of my mouth, Batty. But anyway.

Hey, I'll catch you on the flippity flop. It doesn't help that most of the folks who are playing professional hockey have a name that I've never seen before.

Oh, that's true, too. Yeah. So anyway, I'm not I'm again, I'm not I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying that coincidentally, whatever game we saw, we saw maybe the last period of it or something like kind of half paying attention. One team is down by one goal and then it just ends. You know, there's no overtime. It just ends with one team up by one. But like it just so smoothly went into a brawl. Like it was, it really was like ballet in a certain way. Like somehow like everybody just knew, I don't know exactly what, I don't know what happened. It just went from we're all playing. And then that honking sound happened and the game was over and everybody started fighting behind the net. It was bananas.

Oh, wow. See, I haven't, again, in my all three games of watching it, there has not been a fight. And I was talking to this guy at the Rosen Thistle, which is my neighborhood watering hole. And he's a hockey guy, one of the guys that works there. And I was like, it's so great because, you know, they get to get their aggression out. They fight. He goes, yeah, they don't really fight anymore a lot. He's like they just that's probably like it's too it's a liability. And I think that is I mean, what you saw, you saw and there are fights. But I get I get the sense that it's it's not like when I was billeting with a guy named Hugo. I think I've told the story on the show a few times. But when the North Seattle Christian jazz choir went on tour, not to brag, we went to Canada and we had to stay with families from one of the Christian schools that we visited. And that was called Billeting. And I was so bummed because my buddy Joe Dolan and my buddy Dave Hill, they decided to team up and go stay with like a cute gal of our age whose family was putting them up. It was one of those things where there was like everyone picked a family to go home with. And then I was stuck with this kid named Hugo, who was roughly my age and totally unsupervised. Like he could drive. He got me in the car and he was like, do you know who Don Cherry Rock'em Sock'em Hockey is? And I said, no. And he goes, you will after tonight. And then we just went home to his house Ordered a pepperoni pizza Which in Canada Is a piece of Canadian bacon The exact size Of the pizza if that makes any sense You cut through a layer of cheese Canadian bacon Cheese, tomato sauce Canadian bacon, crust

And there was no pepperoni They call the Canadian bacon I've seen it

Hugo was on his own vibration So I don't know if this is a Canadian thing or a Hugo thing But he was like oh do you like pepperoni And I was like of course I love pepperoni And then he ordered this pizza and it was just like I was like oh I guess that's cheese And then he cut into it and I was like oh it has It's own layer of Canadian bacon On it And then we just watched these Don Cherry Rock'em Sock'em hockey fights All night just these VHS tapes Of not hockey games But of people fighting in hockey games

I saw something the other day Now, this was probably a highlight or something. Again, there's just been so much hockey on TVs everywhere I go. And I saw somebody leaving a game and there were hunched. Well, why would I even say? Let's just say it was grotesque. Something happened to somebody's eye, Luke, and they were skating off players. Yes. And he was bent over, like fully bent over.

And just gushing from the facial area And I was like my goodness And I don't think that was a fight I don't know what the hell that was It does seem like a dangerous sport though They're on blades

This is the thing I don't want to be encouraging of You know sort of physical violence But I do really like that the referees Which is what I believe they're called After watching three games The ice umps The ice umps really let them Another failed David Bochco TV show

Ice Cops I think we did dub them Ice Cops The last time we had an intelligent conversation about hockey

I do appreciate the Ice Cops let them play And this game is so different than any game that I've watched Because other than if you hit the puck across like two blue lines That's called icing Again, I apologize to our actual hockey fans in the listening audience, but again, I'm learning all of this. So like if you hit the puck over two blue lines, it's called icing. There are a couple of other things that are just known to be like violations of the rules. One of the things that's not a violation of the rules is some guys farting around with the puck and you just give them a real, you know, you really put them in a real yard sale situation. You lay them out and they never blow the whistle. And it's like, I'm not looking for people to get hurt, but I'm loving that there's very little stoppage of this game. And it's also very different. I thought it was like soccer in that in soccer, you have a team, they have the ball, they're kind of passing it around. They're keeping it away from the other team. That is so not how it works in hockey. People are always losing possession of this puck. It's very hard for either team to maintain possession for more than like 20 seconds. And they're constantly like Finding themselves in a moment where they're like I'm pressed and they just like They fire the puck down the ice And just like get rid of it And then it immediately goes to the other team Like it's a very back and forth game In a way it's just so fast paced And again you're allowed to crash into people They rarely blow the whistle It's I just I just think it's an It's a well designed sport It is very fun to watch

I'm at a crossroads here because this is the type of show luke i think i think you know this this is the type of show where it's a free-flowing conversation we say what's on our mind thoughts pop up we go on tangents and i'm thinking about it's after nine so we can say whatever we want it's after 9 a.m so things are getting wild it's a late morning edition of tbtl that was a i think you should leave a deep oh oh i didn't even know

when the guy goes to the haunted house oh yeah the tour guide is like well it's after nine so We can say whatever we want. Okay, good. Tim Robinson's character. I shan't be saying what he says.

Now I shall quote the rest of that sketch, Luke. But anyway, I shouldn't do this. I shouldn't punch back at listeners. This isn't really punching back, but there's been a reaction to something that we've said about the game of soccer that I'm a little bit, I guess, a little bit befuddled by. So I promise you when I say I'm not personally into watching soccer, that's fine. i don't think that any sport i like is better than soccer i'm just not into that one for whatever reason and i'm not looking for more sports in my life hockey and stuff whatever so i'm not trying to just like be dismissive of that sport i think that sport has a lot of good things going for it that some of the sports i watch don't frankly having said that you and i have discussed that it's kind of tough to watch the kind of fake injury flopping routines histrionics yeah in in soccer and that like you and i've just said like that is one part of the game that is a casual extremely casual at best observer when i see that i'm just like oh it's just like it's just it makes me roll my eyes seeing like you know grown people on the ground like pretending like their shin hurts when you saw them like purposely bump into somebody else with their shoulder motion yeah and you're just like you're just you're just doing what i did when i had a tummy ache or i wanted my parents to think i had a tummy ache because i didn't want to go to school right and so that's a part of the game we've heard from some listeners who say actually there's a lot less of that in the women's game so you should watch that and you know whatever some people might even say there's less of that than you think you're just catching it at the moments that's happening that might be true too but i've heard from several people who said listen the reason they do that is because it's an extremely exhausting game and they're just tired and that's a way of stopping the clock a little bit and catching your breath and whatever which and i'm like yeah but that doesn't make it better like that is probably true but like then but get a more fit person or or you know fine like i don't know enough to compare basketball and and soccer more miles are obviously run in soccer but like both seem extremely exhausting but i know nothing about basketball either but it seems like there's a bench system where you rest people or other games Like, there's a way to – like, if the issue with the game is it is so exhausting that sometimes people have to fall down and pretend like their knee hurts, like, well, can't we find another solution to that? Like, yeah, there's got to be – so that doesn't – whether or not you agree with my point and you don't mind that part of the game, that doesn't mitigate my issue with the flopping situation in soccer.

And also, I mean, I was not in the MLS or anything, but I played high school soccer. I actually played high school soccer for five years because we had such a bad team, they would let eighth graders on the high school team. And it's a very, very rigorous thing. But nobody did what they do in the MLS at the high school level. And we were like in the state finals, and nobody does that. Again, maybe they're running faster. I mean, they are. Objectively, they're running faster than we were. But it's like it's it's possible to play that sport without doing that thing in my personal experience.

And, you know, you see some of that in football, too, by the way. And I don't like that either. Like sometimes you see a quarterback overselling something if they got hit and, you know, there it's not exclusive to that. But I just don't enjoy that kind of I don't I don't enjoy play acting injuries in sports. So whatever that's worth.

I was like I just was watching this hockey game last night and thinking I have so much learning to do. because for me the fun thing about a sport and when the kraken were announced as a team we talked about it and i said i don't think i have room in my heart for one more sport and or room in my schedule but and part of what's really fun about being into a sport is kind of the lore kind of the backstory like oh real gordy how moment that's just like one of the more famous hockey players of all time that's like me saying a real wilt chamberlain moment i don't know what position gordie howe played i don't know if he was if he scored a lot of goals but like the lore of a sport knowing the people who kind of were the you know legends in it and also the weird names in the sport i know none of that with hockey and i was like i am i have a lot of work to do before next kraken season because i think i'm fully in on this that's fun though it is the learning part is fun

like you don't have to know i mean you know me i am the first one to say i don't know anything about this sport or whatever and maybe i maybe i overplay that so that i'm not caught up in my own ignorance but um i loved coming and watching sports with like i've said this a million times with you and durs and other people who've enjoyed football your entire lives and me uh not really knowing too much about the sport despite having played some pretty mighty freshman football myself with my jersey possibly with uh jason vrabel no yeah oh uh is it jason vrabel not jason what's vrabel's name i don't know but we're best friends i taught him everything he knows he's a walsh guy or saint ignatius he was a walsh jesuit guy he is i'm already even forgetting he's the coach of the commanders that's not right i think he's the coach of the titans the titans

he was right yeah he was a linebacker for the patriots i believe vrabel but not mike mike mike

i had to look it up but yeah they would never name someone jason in ohio my pale mike is what i meant to say i do that so it doesn't seem like i'm name dropping i don't remember his name um but anyway i don't know what i was talking about school in boston oh i just enjoy i enjoy watch i enjoy watching sports like you said you were sitting with somebody at the bar or the bartender or whatever like i just enjoy like having no expectations of knowing much about a sport just saying hey what's happening here what's the deal here what's the deal here and you can spend as as i as i've demonstrated you can spend years learning about a sport that should only take

Well, I'm beginning the journey, and I'm getting a lot of – I think this hat that I got from the Hudson News at O'Hare. Remember when my flights got canceled on my way back from Chicago maybe a month ago or something? And I had to stay in the vicinity of O'Hare, and I couldn't – my hair was a mess. Oh, all my luggage was still on the plane because basically I checked my bag. They put it on the plane, and then there was a crazy thunder, lightning storm, and they said it's not safe for anyone to go get the bags, but also the planes aren't taking off. And so I had to buy a hat the next morning because my hair was quite a sight, and I bought like a Chicago Blackhawks hat from the Hudson News and O'Hare, and I tried to find the least racist Chicago Blackhawks hat, which means like not with a Native American visage on it. I see I didn't I know so little about that I just thought it was an animal but yeah there's like some of that it's like a chief of some sure okay so I bought this red hat with like it does have three feathers on it but they're at least they're not attached to a person and it turns out this is the best hat I've ever owned it looks as far as hats go on me it looks okay I think it just fits my head correctly and it was the kind of thing that I acquired

it in a moment of need and was like okay again least racist Blackhawks hat let's do this okay we'll just wear this on the flight and then we'll never speak of it again and now I wear it all the time and people are constantly saying to me oh Blackhawks guy and I'm like no not at all uh really light canceled guy that people are that's how I started that's how the conversation started with my guy at the Rose and Thistle because he's from Chicago he's like oh Blackhawks and I was like what I like looked around the room for who he was talking to I was like Oh, oh, oh, yes, yes, yes. Least racist Blackhawk hat checking in. And then we got into a whole hockey conversation.

So it does happen. Like I said, you wear a hat. It totally does. No, trust your fears. I had told you the other day. I'm such an idiot. I had told you the other day this story on TBTL about how I had gone into a grocery store forgetting that I was wearing a Baltimore Orioles cap. And of course, somebody from Chicago wanted to talk to me about it, somebody who's a retired police officer, retired 30 year police officer. You're in Baltimore. So not hard to bitten at all. But anyway, so I had literally told you that story on TVTL on, I believe, a Monday and how it's like how I'm always scared somebody's going to call me out if I'm wearing a baseball cap of a team I know nothing about. Right. I go to the transfer station or, as I like to call it, the big dump later that day to get rid of a bunch of like kind of construction debris from our house. And at this point, I think I'm just wearing a Mariner's hat. but i interact with somebody who's driving like some sort of a front end loader and he and i kind of whatever we're sort of crossing after we had the conversation this is after that literally and you're still wearing the hat no no this is so an hour earlier you and i are having the conversation on tbtl about me wearing this orioles hat the day before or whatever in a grocery store i'm now wearing probably a mariner's hat or a hat without any insignia um and but then i i kind of cross paths with this fellow who's working at the dump and we're like close enough to kind of interact I'm like dropping off some styrofoam while he's collecting it or whatever so we actually kind of have a moment while he's holding the bag for me and I'm dumping styrofoam in it but he's wearing a Pittsburgh Pirates hat I believe I think it was the Pirates

you drop a Roberto Clemente

no I had no names but I was just like oh you guys are pretty good this year right like we're talking he's like I don't know it's my brother's hat I'm just like oh no I'm sorry you found a fellow Andrew I know and I said you know what I should have said anything something like this just happened to me the other day have a good day sir it was a very

quick interaction only you would have as i did subscribed to sports illustrated as a ute uh-huh because there was so the pirates were really good in the late 80s early 90s but their general manager or maybe it was their owner his name was sid thrift and he had apparently gotten these players for a very very reasonable price like they must have come up in the pirate system and they were like Andy Van Slyke, Barry Bonds, Bobby Bonilla, and the cover of Sports Illustrated was called Thrift Shop, and it was just a picture of Sid Thrift and then these players that he had acquired for or had brought into the system. So he wasn't spending a ton of money on these Pittsburgh Pirates, and I will always remember that. That was what I would have said to that guy, and he would have been like, it's my brother's hat. I have no reference, sir.

I feel like it wasn't the Pirates because it was a team that I did know is doing well, And I don't know anything about the pirates, but it doesn't really matter. But luckily, I also subscribed to some magazines as a kid. So I was able to hold up my end of the conversation by saying, hey, I hear Ranger Rick is doing really well this year, really kind of coming into his own.

This is my brother's raccoon.

I remember a cover of Ranger Rick that had a guy with a beard made of bees. I think it's iconic. I think it's an iconic cover, although I could be wrong about that.

i saw a thing on tiktok yesterday speaking of bees and we should go to the break we're about halfway through this it was isabella rosalini the actor and she was in a beekeeping suit and she was just videotaping herself on her phone and she was like i'm in my i'm in my apiary and i want to show you this picture i think she had some like richard avidon photo of a guy with a lot of bees on him behind her and that was the whole video it was 12 seconds long and it was like i'm in my i'm in my b b hive and i want to show you this photo and then she just like scans her phone over to this richard avidon photo and then that was it and i just like i love that isabella rosalini is currently beekeeping somewhere and videotaping herself yes of course

she is like i didn't know that but of course it checks out yes of course all right uh let's

take that break and then when we come back we're going to talk about hotel news and also a person who is doing I would say the least Isabella Rossellini thing you can do when we if we set Isabella Rossellini up as the platonic ideal of being cool and chill this guy is doing in my mind the opposite stay with us this is TBTO

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hey let's thank some dazzling donors these are the wonderful generous folks who are supporting the program with a dazzling amount of dough each month andrew i have to tell you uh one quick thing Yesterday I am Boy I shouldn't have started Never start a sentence that you can't finish But we were We thanked some dazzling donors I believe it was Amy and her husband And I wish I could remember her husband's name

Are we talking Marion Petey maybe Oh no Seattle Karen and Brian

Karen and Brian again Known as Amy and what's his name Karen and Brian McManus maybe Exactly, yes So we read their dazzling donor message yesterday And we were learning about the journey they've been on And they've been going through some stuff, health-wise, etc On Mondays, we record the interstitials of Livewire And we have a group of people A donor or household of donors that we thank Every week And guess what? It was Mary and Brian What are their names again?

It was Amy and what's-his-face Amy and what's-his-face

Karen and Brian McManus They were both the dazzling donors On TBTL yesterday And the donors of the week On Livewire

Hardcore McManus support Is what I'm saying is happening I would say Karen and Brian If you want to shift that other donation That Livewire over to my side of TBTL I promise to never forget your name

Honestly, LiveWire's had it too good. Karen and Brian, I mean, just double down on the TBTL. No, thank you so much. What I really wanted to say to my colleagues at LiveWire as I was reading it was, these people are tens. Like, enjoy the money from these wonderful TBTL donors. Because it's unlikely that they are, and maybe, I don't know, Karen and Brian, I don't know your life, maybe they're hardcore LiveWire people who got into TBTL. But my guess is hardcore TBTL, who are so insistent upon trying to keep me paid and having jobs that now they're also supporting Livewire. So thank you so much. Also, thanks to Keith Stone in Libertyville, Illinois. Got your stones? What was the Keystone Light ads that Keith Stone was a character in the Keystone Light ads, right?

I think this comes up from time to time, and I don't remember them.

And I think you were really good. Honestly, maybe worth revisiting on after these messages. He was like, Keith Stone was a kind of guy with a mullet, but who went around just like being cool, but in a non-annoying way. And it was like something like, I'm Keith Stone. And it was like, have your stones or something?

It's the dealio, little lady. My Kiki, she's stuck in the tree. Hold my stones. Hold my stones. So we have a kind of a slacker cool guy. He's holding a 12-pack of Keystone light. Cat's in the tree. Old lady wants him down. Keith Stone pulls out a ladder from somewhere. Hey, little Kiki. Easy. Easy. Easy. Atta girl. It's a woman. She'll be fine. She's just a little shaken. Thank you, young man. What's your name? My name? Yeah. It's Keith Stone.

Keith Stone? You're so smooth.

Always. Smooth-brewed Keystone light is always smooth. It passes the Bechtel test. It's a woman in a miniskirt who comes on to Keith Stone, although Keith Stone has a beer commercial that's sexist. Animal magnetism.

What do you have for Keith Stone? What do you mean? I mean, do you have a less sexist beer commercial that's related to this dazzling donor? No, no. I don't think I brought that up. He's Keith from Stonecraft Leather This has been coming up, I think, pretty frequently On other Dazzling Donor messages When they talk about folks in the TENS community Who are makers of sorts And I think Stonecraft Leather comes up a lot

Indeed, I have some Stonecraft Leather around the house I have a It is something that you slip on the handle of your cast iron skillet So that you can touch the skillet without burning yourself I don't know what the official name of that is but it's beautiful. I have a key fob. Keith is very, very talented.

Keith says, I've made some great connections through the 10 community. I made a bunch of cast iron. Oh, well, I should pre-read these. I made a bunch of cast iron skillet covers and sold them to other 10s after you mentioned you were in the process of re-seasoning a skillet.

I believe this is to you, Andrew. This is directed at you. I've also made a bunch of key rings and sent them out to my holiday card group. It's so gratifying to share the hobby with other fans of the show. Remember when Uber Jen promoted her new company's app for makers? Well, it's amazing. I love posting there. I encourage the makers in the TBTL community as well. Jen was nice enough to spotlight me in a weekly email to the making app users with my bag project. Let's just say I was feeling very happy of myself that week Thanks for doing the show so consistently God, there's days when we don't want to do it But we have to And boy, we're going to really have to after July 3rd I feel like we could phone it in for APM If we had to for a week or two Just be like, we're not feeling it But once this is our small business There's no not doing the show So if you want to take any days, Andrew Take them between now and July 3rd Would be my recommendation

Yeah, no, I think I'm proud of the fact that, you know, I can beat myself up on days when I feel like I didn't do such a great job, but at least, Luke, we always keep the needles moving. We always do a show. I am really proud of the fact that especially since we stopped doing reruns, but even when we were kind of repackaging stuff that had already aired and repurposing it as kind of greatest hits, like, TBTL's never missed a weekday. Like literally never missed a weekday except for maybe on the radio when you had like, I guess it wasn't hockey back then, but a soccer game.

Oh, it was called Under the Helmet. Sure. Well, there was there was the Seahawks like midweek show called Under the Helmet. I have never loved a Seahawks midweek show like I loved Under the Helmet when we were radio shows. Be like, oh, Wednesday. Oh, we're not doing that. I'll be at the nightlight if you need. Yeah. Yeah. Keith says Thanks for doing the show so consistently I rely on it to accompany me through The good times and bad One of the things I most appreciate about the show Is how you two demonstrate a healthy And wholesome friendship Which is a rare thing these days What you do is so important Are we on like a three day streak with that I feel like definitely yesterday We said that Somebody closed out And I said Maria Bamford mom And I feel like it happened last week too Anyway Yes you are right

I have in front of me Karen and Brian did power out With what you do is so important

Oh the McManuses of Livewire support Yeah exactly Yes Thank you Keith We really do appreciate you man Wouldn't be here without you Maestro

On your mark On your mark Get set Get set Now ready Ready Go Everybody rattle down

Look who it is It's our friend Amy Shepard In Memphis TN Amy says, was Amy the one that was taking up roller skating? Yes, Amy's

a great roller skater. Hardcore roller skaterer. In fact, you mentioned listeners on Instagram earlier in the show, and I will say over the weekend, I know that Amy went to a, I think went to a Baltimore Orioles game, was certainly at a baseball game with a Baltimore Orioles cap on and tagged us in the photo wondering if now if an Orioles cap is official TBTL swag. we're still working out the legal details on that but yes easy answer yes that's the new tbtl hat

that's the based on the one time an ex-cop sweated you in a grocery store amy says i started listening to tbtl in 2013 so y'all have been in my ears for a decade i'm grateful for the community of tens and while my life has definitely changed from when i was downloading podcasts during my lunch break to listen to it in the furrier shop. Y'all made life so much more bearable in that face. Furrier, that's... Furrier. That's like a, that's a, that's a animal-based, I mean, is that kind of what Keith does? What's a, a furrier does things with, like, leather, right?

Deals in furs. A person who prepares or deals in furs. You're right, we have leather and furrier. That is not on purpose. It's like a Fleetwood Mac song, leather and fur. give me your leather I'll be your fur

TBTL brings constant joy and thanks to you for being my imaginary friends we're your real friends Amy we've met you dummies thanks for being my imaginary friends dummies and tens power out additional note my favorite drop is always Tig Notaro saying you're a gross person well Amy your wish is our commands that how that goes on You're a gross person The other things I have When I put gross into my system I have this one It's you saying something I put gross into my system

Alright here is the last one This is the one I did not mention at the top of the show Because it deals with something That is gross

We've also got Jonah Hill Playing a kid named Evan Grossman Do you remember this SNL character Who's actually pretty genius We'll be right back.

I don't, not off the top of my head.

He's playing like a five-year-old who's at a Benihana and his dad's going through a divorce. Oh, no. But his material is so, like, 1987.

Please what? Please get you back together with mom? I know that's what you want because you talk in your sleep. I'm not eavesdropping, mind you, but the walls in your condo are thinner than Shelley Duvall. I'm joking. I don't even know who that is. I'm six.

I think I might remember that tape. But I feel like if I know that at all, it's only through these channels.

The whole bit was premised on just having Jonah Hill sit in a low chair so that he looked very short at the Benihana.

But then sort of do like a – almost like doing a roast style comedy. Totally.

But like imagine a six-year-old who's at a Benihana but whose comedy is extremely rooted in like late 1980s. Well, this is another one for me.

How am I the same way I am the third weekend of every month, Sushin? living it up Las Vegas style on the couch in my dad's condo. Relax, Dad. It's a joke. Seriously, though. Would it kill you to get cable? I'm six years old. A little Zack and Cody goes a long way. Ladies, are you familiar with the work of Zack and Cody?

Sorry?

It's about two twins that live in a hotel. They have a butler. I'm stuck here with Mr. Personality. It's like living with paint if paint cried and complained about how expensive gas is.

and we do we ever even see the dad or it's like all i don't believe we ever see the dad if i

remember right that's really funny it definitely seems like a sketch that high people came up with but i love it uh and i love these dazzling donors thank you so much uh to keith stone and to our friend amy shepherd for making tbtl possible today we absolutely could not do this without you hello and welcome to top story all right i'm gonna if i can if you'll allow it andrew i'm gonna go out of order here we have this hotel room story that we've already pushed a couple times but i want to start with this this uh headline he's lived underwater for 75 days he thinks others should, comma, too. This is a story that I saw in the Seattle Times. I'm guessing it was written somewhere else and they were just kind of reposting it. But because of that, I don't have the byline. Apologies. Every day, Joseph Duturi wakes up at around 5 a.m. He walks to his workstation and he basks in the sun that hovers above him. This sun, however, is a yellow pillow with a smiling face in the center. Duturi hung it on his wall to remind him of the real sun, which he hasn't seen in more than 75 days this guy joseph detoury has now broken the record for living underwater how deep underwater do you think joseph detoury is living andrew a thousand feet ten thousand feet do you think he's in the mariana trench or is he 22 feet below the surface with internet and a toilet hmm where is he he's he is at the uh jules uh i assume name for jules verne jewels undersea lodge deturi believes he he's broken the record for the longest stint living underwater but he's still determined to live submerged for 100 days to complete his experiment he says it's not about the world record it's about living underneath the water and in an isolated confined extreme environment i have 100 days as the mark but it's only because i couldn't afford to spend 200 days here that statement says everything if the thing that's standing between you and doing 200 days is prohibitive cost it's not that hard what you're doing he is living in a studio apartment probably a little bit smaller than where i live in a bubble with air and the internet and a toilet and a kitchen and a steady stream of reporters wanting to write about him breaking this record why are we why are we pretending this is a thing as a society and by

us i mean the person who wrote this one story i'm not um by the way it's it's uh kyle melnick from the Washington Post who wrote this and the Seattle Times republishing. I just happen to be on this now because I did not read this earlier. So, you know, all the questions I have, I guess, are not rhetorical. I really don't know. But like, what is the difference between him doing this and him just living out in the middle of a field somewhere in a house that he can't leave or the middle of the woods somewhere?

Not much that I can tell. Now, here's the thing. This guy, I think he's a marine biologist and he loves the ocean and he is doing this. he says to raise awareness of you know our oceans now one thing i thought was weird those i i saw like a video of him and he was like making his little lunch or something and it was fish and i just i don't know why that was weird to me that he's raising awareness for the oceans he's also eating fish while he's feels like you're really dominating a biosphere when you're like

You

you you had someone make a bubble well they probably made it already somebody makes a bubble submerges it in the water 22 feet down you live there you crap into some kind of tube where it's you know uh pneumatically taken away from you and then you eat fish that are also possibly swimming by you it feels like a flex but is he going out i mean i guess i eat land animals so

i guess that's i could ever go to a field and eat a hamburger though i suppose i go to a field with a hamburger and just stare a cow in the eye unbroken eye contact it's really like a far side cow i really got a lot that i'm working on um but uh so is he going out on little like if you were living let's say on the moon you might go out on little adventures on the moon is he like scubaing around that i've seen so he's just not leaving a very small area for a long i've done that in my basement dude does he have a dartboard no um right no but i mean it would be obviously that's super extreme to be in a small place that you never leave for 100 days or 200 but i'm just trying to figure out is the because it says here that you know he's you know taking samples of saliva and blood to figure out what living underwater does to the body but like i'm trying to figure out why it matters that he's underwater is it a sea level thing and again i know i just keep asking the same question i'm not asking you to answer it but like why would it be different if you're just it would be difficult to live in a confined space for a long time it's called 100

square feet yeah this is his

layout on earth he's he's

a detoury booked a 100 square foot pod similar to a 10 by 10 foot room that rests 22 feet underwater the lodge gets electricity oxygen and water from a cord connected to land he also attached an ethernet cable to a router on land for internet access the pod has a small kitchen toilet and shower and bedroom right like by design when you are in something like this underwater it is holding out the sort of i guess what would you call it bariatric pressure like so why are we studying him he could be in this room that i'm in he could be in the room you're in he's in a bubble that's holding back the water and the pressure of the water his blood is going to be like he lived in a studio apartment in poughkeepsie i mean it's to me and again just

having not read this so i worry that i'm saying things incredibly stupid here but like i'm assuming this isn't an ocean somewhere and not a lake but let's just say like whatever the water around him is some in the hundred days that he's down there somebody could start a project of re of maybe somehow sealing up the area and replacing the water with dirt and it would be a long project would be a difficult project but they've turned and i would argue scarier and scary but eventually you would be living in the same thing only you'd be surrounded by dirt is that going to change what is going on in your blood and saliva like I just don't get what he thinks he's doing if he were go if he were actually somehow interacting with the water more I think that would make more sense is it one of those things he just wants to do something he wants to be written about but by taking these samples he's pretending like it's for the good of science

it's I mean again probably somebody knows him like in our listening audience and they're going to be like, no, he's a really good guy. I'm sure he's a good guy. I bet he's a better person than I am, and I'm not even saying that sarcastically. Really and truly, this guy is probably a good guy. But, yeah, I don't understand what the sort of intrigue is around this. Every three days, Duturi said, his research colleagues swim to his pod to deliver food, including eggs and salmon, again, fish, weird flecks, in a pressurized container. but Taturi can only cook in a microwave because of the increased pressure of the sea Andrew he's only been cooking in a microwave oh that's what I did in college right he's currently attending Kent State remotely

I told you about my homemade colanders right I heated up a fork and poked holes in the bottom of a Gladware container so I could strain my noodles in my bathroom sink oh my god you would not have been able to handle this

this makes your story about going to Bed Bath & Beyond and buying a colander This makes that make so much more sense

Because all I had was a microwave I must have had a hot plate if I was boiling noodles

Did anybody take your blood pressure before you moved into that apartment?

Yeah, but I mean, all I ate was like eggs from the microwave I believe breaded chicken Mass amounts of like dinty more stew And the occasional boiled noodles that I would strain in my bathroom sink You would have died, Luke You literally wouldn't have survived it How would you do the eggs? what was your go-to microwave egg it was like uh i think i scrambled them because i was very surprised that you could do that and i've never gone back to do like you know my first apartment out of college i had a stove if you can believe it i remember loving making eggs and sausage on my own stove i felt like such an adult as i emerged from my version of an underwater cave it was like stove you make eggs on stove i talked like that uh

But I don't even remember. I imagine that I just whipped up eggs into a small bowl or mug or something and then heated them in the microwave. Somebody told me you could do it. I bet those weren't bad. Probably not terrible. I'm still kind of surprised. I don't have a good memory of what they were like or what I ate them on. Maybe a plate. I don't know. I had one fork and one spoon.

Do you guys ever do bacon in the microwave? Don't you have a bacon tree for that or something?

No. We don't eat very much bacon. Do you know about this? No. Genevieve doesn't eat pork and I'm not that big I mean I'm not I'm just not that I'm not into bacon that much

Microwaving bacon is actually A pretty decent way to Cook it it seems Counterintuitive to me but they sell These little like bacon trees Which is just like a kind of Plastic little thing that you can hang the Bacon off of and then put it In the microwave it is like Again I don't you know cook Bacon ever but If I were a bacon person that it's it's really not bad surprisingly it seems again the microwave i was i was we had one we got a microwave that my uncle mike got us from the scratch of the scratch and dent from jaffco which became best down at south center so we got a microwave at some point but it was always like the last thing you would ever try to cook something in in our family for some reason and so when i learned you could cook bacon and it was actually delicious from the microwave i was quite

surprised yeah and you learned that as an adult you mean like long after that yeah yeah you know one quick thing about how our tastes change not that we were talking about that but we're talking about pork and um you know it uh there's a certain grocery store that i go to it's not in every grocery store but the safe way and roosevelt i'll just put it out there um they sell these assernios am i saying that or am i adding a syllable okay assernios is the brand it's kind

of a local or regional uh brand of i think camaro kev used to produce a saturday pay-to-play show

that was sponsored by asernio he did and that's why it's especially fun to watch uh him and our friend rodin argue about the way rodin is preparing sausage on the grill because it's always delicious it doesn't matter but you also have kevin the the av expert there anyway um i was just going to say that like since genevieve stopped eating pork they sell these asernio's italian style sausages both mild and spicy that are chicken sausages right and you know sometimes it's not easy to find chicken sausage but they're pretty consistently there and so I've been buying those for a long time and I think and I was grilling them up this weekend in fact we had some company over and I was grilling them up and I was talking about how I like these sausages and one time I don't know if Genevieve was out or whatever but I was cooking Italian sausages for myself sometime I'm going to say in the last year or so and I was like oh I guess I can just buy the pork ones again because Genevieve isn't here and that's what I grew up on and that's standard pork Italian sausages right and even though I still eat pork and I eat pork and like kielbasa or whatever I have gotten so used to the texture and taste of an Italian sausage made out of chicken which is a leaner meat that the pork one actually I didn't like it as much anymore like I remember there was a time when I was switching from pork to chicken and thinking yeah this is close but not quite as good but now actually I would take chicken any day over pork I mean it's just I don't have a power out for this but it's just we do adapt and like literally i've been eating this for so long that my mouth no longer enjoys the texture of a slightly greasier pork version of this i think

back in my more meat eating days and again i i still i eat meat now again on the occasion so i would not try to present myself as a vegetarian but when i used to eat meat much more that was my go-to with those isernio's chicken sauce this is like a guy on the cover right it's like it's

like a drawing of a dude or something oh i always get them in like the kind of the butcher section so they're in the styrofoam with the with the um oh really i didn't even know they had that yeah

i would get them like you know shrink wrapped and there's like i think mr asernio it's sorry mr asernio was my father doctor call me dr asernio but um i i loved those actually i think they're i think they're pretty good so uh the other story that i wanted to talk about today which we don't have to go into too deeply was basically the idea that the union that represents folks who work in housekeeping are organizing and protesting this move by hotels to only clean the room when you ask for it or only clean the room you know in stays longer than three days and i guess if i think about it long enough that makes sense because it is their business but i was kind surprise i saw andrea shu did a really great story on morning edition uh the other day about i think it was friday and she was interviewing all these people and just talking to folks and it's like oh i never thought i've just been centering myself in the experience which is like i don't like it when they don't clean my room enough but the people who clean the rooms at least the ones that are

unionizer like they're also pissed at the hotels yeah this came up a little bit we didn't talk about it strictly from the labor issue but it came up a little bit in some of our earlier conversations because after we talked about this you know this ongoing i don't know trend i guess is the right word of hotels not providing daily uh housekeeping services i heard from a lot of listeners who are like this is a real labor issue and we're sending me like various tick tocks about addressing it or various things like yeah it's a pretty big labor issue because it's just like i mean you know it's just like any other work like the writers are on strike because they're saying we don't want to lose the work that we do to ai or other things and in the same way this is an industry where they're saying like this is this is an industry often by the way an industry where the jobs are filled by women of color um and these jobs are going away that's why I saw a lot of stuff from people saying you're doing the right thing if you ask for housekeeping every day you're in a hotel. You know how like some hotels are making it like an optional thing. You opt into that. People are saying, yes, please do that. That is what the labor organizers want you to do because they want to work. Also, this article, Luke, that you sent me from NPR pointed out another thing, which I don't know has come up. But the idea that I'm going to say it's grosser for it's harder for them. And worse for them if they have to clean up a room that somebody's been in for five days treating it like an animal because it's not their home.

Which, I mean, I try to not, you know, get too feral in there. But I can tell you that if I'm in there for three or four days and there's been zero housekeeping, it's definitely going to be a bigger hassle for whoever has to come through after that than if it's happening every day. So I had not thought of that. I mean, yeah, there's a quote from somebody saying that the day you check out, that room is terrible, says Chandra Anderson, who's a housekeeper in Baltimore, probably wearing an Orioles cap. She says she's encountered overflowing trash bins, piles of wet towels and toilet paper strewn everywhere. First of all, people, let's comport ourselves in a in a fashion that is befitting us being humans who have eighty dollars for a holiday in. OK, but still to the point that, like, if you put people in a room for four days and there's no cleaning, that fifth day is going to suck way worse for that person.

Yeah, absolutely. And remember those horror stories we got from a listener on the voicemail line last week?

Yes. Before, like I thought of her the other last week when I was in a hotel, I literally was going to eat a pizza on the bed. No, that's not I was going to eat Red Robin on the bed. Yeah. And I got marinara sauce with the cheese sticks as I was watching the crack. And, you know, I'm a bonafide hockey fan now. And I moved over to the desk to eat my cheese sticks because of that voicemail from that listener. Because I think she said something like, if you're going to eat on the bed, at least use a towel. Yes, exactly. And I was like, I couldn't get a towel. So I was like, you know what? I'm not going to do. I'm not going to treat these people at the Fairfield Inn in Plymouth, Massachusetts, with any disrespect. I will sit at this desk and have a business lunch. Right?

here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a female no man it's not

from a female all right emails or emails before we get out of here yes i have an email a very

quick email that i'd like to share with you but it's about a tbtl related event this came up on the show a while back because i thought i had seen something online about maybe a tbtl book club emerging and i got a note from your tbtl notification yeah exactly and i guess that was something that um you know some sort of a search service found online that wasn't supposed to be public yet but this is ready to be public i got an email from christine who's one of the organizers here uh it says our new tbtl book club has organized our first event to be a virtual meeting on june 4th at 2 p.m mountain standard time so that's 1 p.m pacific 4 p.m eastern the books we've chosen are now listen carefully you can join this book club you can choose one of these two books it doesn't matter i think they'll be discussing them both the storied life of aj fikri by gabrielle zevin okay my apologies if i'm pronouncing any names incorrectly or the Diary of a Void by Emmy Yogi. That's the storied life of A.J. Fickery or Diary of a Void. It sounds like they are going to be discussing both of those books. You can choose one or read both if you're a brainiac. Christine says we want to encourage any 10 to join us. So far, this is the first meeting. Please pick whichever book appeals to you most. If you're interested in suggesting a book or facilitating a discussion, please email tbtl10sbookclub at gmail.com Do you know what Diary of a Void is about? No.

No, what is it about? I only know this because I'm Googling it. A woman in Tokyo avoids harassment at work by perpetrating for nine months and beyond the lie that she's pregnant in this prize-winning, thrillingly subversive debut novel.

Oh, that stresses me out just thinking about it.

Also, what a world that this is what women have to do and not get fucked with.

Oh, my God. By the way, so it says it looks like it is a virtual meeting, so I'm not exactly sure if this is going to be over Zoom or whatever. So my guess is if you want any more information about how you can join the virtual meeting, email tbtl10sbookclub, tbtl10sbookclub, that's 10 spelled out, T-E-N-S, bookclub at gmail.com.

Let me also read you the synopsis of the storied life of A.J. Fickrey, just because I don't want to give one, you know, this is an equal time issue. Yes, exactly. A.J. Fickrey owns a failing bookshop. His wife has just died in tragic circumstances. His rare and valuable first edition has been stolen. His life is a wreck. Amelia is a book rep with a big heart and a lonely life. Maya is the baby left on A.J.'s bookshop floor with a note. And that's where Google Books ends their description. But that sounds like a real page turner.

Let's see. June 4th. I don't think that I'm a fast enough reader to get through what I'm reading now and then one of these books by June 4th.

Can you read it on your phone, lying in bed, squinting at it? With one eye open, yeah.

Actually, but I am reading a book right now, and it takes me forever to read books. In fact, I started this months ago and then put it down for a long time. I haven't been reading books.

At least you read books for fun, Andrew. I mean this very seriously. I admire that. The books that I read are purely because they're assigned reading. I think it's cool that however long it takes you That you read books for personal enrichment

Oh my god Well, I don't know if it's enrichment It's just sort of, you know, entertainment But you've heard of the book Atonement, right? By Ian McEwen Now, I think it was turned into a novel I had always heard of this Genevieve has had the novel for a long time I think the book came out in the early 2000s

Is James McAvoy in that, maybe?

Oh, I don't know anything about the movie But I'm finally, like, a while back I was just like, I just want to read another book and so i just grabbed something off the shelf and i grabbed this and then i i set it down for a while now i'm back into it and it is so it is so unbelievably well written it was like from the first sentence that i read i was like oh my god this person loves writing and it's just like every sentence is a joy to read but it is also let me just put it this way i was reading this it's not it's not it's not dark i was i was sitting at big mario's about i don't know four weeks ago or something i'm reading this book and also sort of half watching one of the pirates of the carib caribbean caribbean well we'll accept either okay when you go back and forth when you say the name of the movie though isn't there a standard pirates of the care it's caribbean but also i would accept caribbean if it were other decontextualized from the name of that I got stuck on the move. So anyway, it's just like, you know, it was a Friday, kind of happy hour time, 5 o'clock. That's kind of my happy place. I'm eating a slice of pizza, drinking a beer. Pirates of the Caribbean is on TV, but I'm also, like, kind of reading this book. And a couple of people are sitting next to me for maybe a half hour or something. And then when they get up to leave, the woman who is sitting directly to my left, who I've had zero interaction with, puts her hand on my shoulder and says, I just want you to know that this is a very, very sad book that you're reading. And I was like, well, it's called Atonement, and I know a crime happens from the back. That's all I know.

You're like, wait, is this Revenge of the Nerds 3? Double checks the book cover. No, it's Atonement by Ian McEwen.

It's called Atonement. So I was like, I had a feeling it was going to be sad. There's something about the book that is so beautiful and so interesting to read, But there just is this sense of foreboding for some reason that just sort of hangs over from the beginning.

Right, because the thing has gone down, right?

And it's kind of like, will the reckoning happen? Yes, and I just got to that part. That's like the exact halfway mark. And I told Veeves, I told a couple of people who've read the book, I'm like, now that I see how this is going to play out, like what, let's just say a major miscommunication is going to be, I don't think I can continue reading this book. Like, I see where this is going, and I just, it's going to be so painful. It stresses you out too much. It's so stressed. But then, just let go and let Ian. Like, he knows, he's like, then he takes you up in his hands as the reader, and he says, he just sort of like, I can't explain it. He doesn't break the fourth wall, but like, the way he gently guides you and then skips ahead in time if need be. Wow. So that, like, I just feel like I'm so well cared for in the hands of Ian McHugh. This book is one of the best books I've read. This is a really, really good statement for the book Atonement. It is so good. It is so, so good. So my point is...

I really wish you guys had chosen Atonement and let me lead the book club, but that's okay. We'll let you all do your own thing. No, just kidding. Everybody, please join Christine and the other organizers of this event. June 4th is the event, and more details at tbtl10sbookclub at gmail.com. And sincere thanks to the 10s for setting this up. I love this kind of stuff, and I love not arranging it myself because I'm deeply lazy.

tbtl10sbookclub was not taken, huh?

tbtl10sbookclub at gmail.com.

tbtl tense book club 88 at gmail.com right gmail.com no um all right well there we go man we have to wrap this up today because andrew i don't know what it's like in your basement but it is so weltering here where i am and i did not put the ac on i have some weird i have no guilt around my carbon footprint but i do have a little bit of weird guilt around the ac like i feel like I can all I can think of is every apartment in this building running their AC and the only way you get cold air inside is to eject hot air to the outside and again this is the only example of me thinking about anyone who's not me ever but like it kind of stresses me out and so I try to you know wait until it's totally necessary and what I can tell you is it's totally necessary

it's broiling in this room yeah it'll get warm down here later but I gotta say that this basement studio is wonderful i you know me my favorite thing growing up was escaping the heat in my family's basement on a summer day so i'm really feeling the summer vibes these days it's great

excellent all right well listen we are gonna wrap this up today but guess what we have a new episode coming your way tomorrow featuring our friends from brian's on we got so many good voicemails

from kiddos who want questions answered uh some of them attempting to really really trip up sandin and molly uh submitting questions that uh may even be impossible to answer and we're going to see how they can take a swing at these things all right so that is tomorrow's episode in the

meantime thank you all for listening i have a great tuesday go mariners by the way cal raleigh it's so hard to do something the first time ever in fenway park like that is ridiculously rare at

this point somebody can i tell you about a tweet because please it got seven likes luke which makes me think it's you know this is something that everybody needs to hear um somebody was tweeting out the historic uh back-to-back home runs by cal rally last night um from each side of the plate which is the first time this happened in the history of by a catcher oh by a catcher oh okay i was gonna say first time ever okay by a catcher in the history of fenway park which goes back what 115 years or something uh anyway somebody tweeted that out i retweeted it with another thing that happened in the game and i said this is also dave sims referencing the lincoln douglas debates during

a lengthy mound visit is also the first time an announcer has done that since the lincoln douglas debate that's a great literally he's they were out there for a while he's like if you're gonna pull him pull him what is this the lincoln douglas debates dave sims getting hot under the collar i

loved it double yes that guy man he's got his moments it'll also go down in history as the time when luke placed the greatest ever a eugenio suarez is going to hit a home run bet in game right it said in game in game i put it down at the beginning of the inning oh wow holy cow you said a feeling 25 to make 300 and like he he he was he would i think he went down oh two but he was hitting the ball hard foul and i was like maybe there's a universe in which this guy's going to go yard but i was like not a legitimate universe and then he just yanked it to center

very exciting okay you know i just got to say one more thing while we're talking about this i am so mad at mlb baseball or yahoo or espn or however i play my fantasy baseball they do not allow you to put shohei otani on the mound and at the plate as a fantasy baseball this do you still

have him from when we were co yeah because of course we have a keeper league so i'll never get

rid of him but he had a historic night at the plate last night he got like i think he got like a three run homer he got so many rbis so many hits i don't get any credit for that because i had to use him as a pitcher last night not a hitter and it is infuriating and i'm now mildly racist i don't know why but i'm just gonna say that exactly gosh that you still can't you cannot

Why, why? I mean, there are going to be a couple players in probably a generation who this will even be an issue surrounding, and Shohei Ohtani is one of them. They should adjust the rule.

Thank you for hearing me out. We buried it at the end. I needed to get that off my chest.

Classic hockey fan checking in, Luke Burbank. All right, thanks for listening, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. Until then, I'm going to say it right this time. Please remember, no mountain too tall.

And good luck to all.

All right, they're going to run. See you on the flippy flops. Power out.