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You will be in room 237, and you have free Wi-Fi there. Also, from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. every morning, there's a free Continental Breakfast.

Mmm. All the Europine countries lay before me. Where should I fly to first? Mmm. Ah. The pit of the donut. Mmm. Thank you, turkey. Buckle up. Let's see where we shall go next. Ah, the Danish. Clearly from Brussels. Hello, Greece, where the yogurt flows like water.

Yes, like go-gurt but to stay. And who are you, my little friend? Not a spoon, not a fork, but something in between. A fa-poon. What will you think of next, Germany?

T-B-T-L

Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

It's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. Brother, who are you? What are you doing? I'm with the news, dude. What comes before anything? What have we always said is the most important thing?

Breakfast.

Family.

Family, right? I thought you meant of the things you eat.

They say, you snooze, you lose. Well, we snoozed. And look what we lost.

Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

If there was bedbugs, we would have seen it.

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. You want to do a make-believe radio show in a room somewhere. I'm telling you, there's no money in that. Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where we're looking at a beautiful day.

Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful.

Got back from San Diego last night, and it was a unique experience because it was certainly very nice down there in Southern California by the beach. But it was not warm if you weren't in the direct sunlight. And then I got off the plane at, I don't know, 10 o'clock at night, and it was balmy here in beautiful Portland. So we are feeling good. We are ready to roll with episode 3,953 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

You know, one of our favorite pastimes on the show, I should say, one of my favorite pastimes, is to promote the top stories, tell you about the things we're going to talk about, and then not talk about them. Lying is like 95% of what I do. But today we really are, because it's Friday. We really are going to talk about a top story that I've been pushing off, which involves what are supposedly the most trusted brands in America.

I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career.

So we'll talk about that. Also, we have got an announcement about this year's TVTL-a-thon that involves more of my parents than maybe previous thons.

I'll say, what's up, dog?

And speaking of kindly, I'll say it, older women, I had a gal, a Kathy, flying in the same row that Becca and I were in on the way home from San Diego last night, who went from being a person that I didn't know existed to being absolute legend status.

It does not bother me. In fact, I kind of like it because I know there's somebody around.

Tell you what Kathy was sky jinxing around on coming up. Plus, we'll talk to this guy, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace, their splendor, and those intricate riggings. It's Friday, but he's already in weekend mode Ooh, boys weekend He's Andrew Welsh, and he's joining me right now Good morning, my friend Good morning, Luke

I washed out my garbage bin yesterday outside Oh my god in heaven It's nice in there, man I'm not saying you want to eat out of it, but you could

Can I hire you to clean out your garbage bins? Can I steal you? Can I steal him? To organize my life I don't want to sidetrack us and we need to talk about the fawn. We really do. But like, because I'm renting an apartment in Portland and because I own a home in Southern Washington that is like a Superfund site currently, although I am getting federal funding to clean it up.

So I guess we'll call that kind of a win. I have really lost, because I will be moving there someday, full time. I'll be spending all my time there when it's livable.

Is that why Anna King has been doing so many stories about your renovation project?

That and the fact that I created over 3,000 ghost cattle.

That's right.

The courts are still weighing in on that situation.

If I can work in an Anna King, sorry to kind of wedge that joke in there a sentence or two too late. But if you can get an Anna King reference in, you know, you don't do it.

Listen, don't delay joy. That's right. So because I feel that I'm in a sort of a liminal state in my in my my living conditions and my residency. I have a very low level of motivation to organize the closets and the drawers and the things in this apartment that if I were living here, if I bought this were a condominium and I purchased it. or if it were the the place that i'm kind of working on slowly but surely then i would probably say we got to start from we got to start from scratch here we've got to we've got to um get some real organizational principles in place and we've got to make sure that there's a place for everything and and and you know just get it set up correctly but because i'm not going to live here forever the entire like my entire motivation like andrew if you saw my closets you would weep Now, remember at my old house in Bellingham, one time I think you caught my closet that had the suits in it, and you were sort of struck by how kind of organized it was. Yeah, it was very organized. That's how I like things to be, but I can't bring myself to invest a weekend in organizing the closets and such in this apartment. Like so my clean clothes I have The collared shirts are hanging The suits are hanging But then there are these cubbies These shelves above where the clothes hang Where I put my running t-shirts And where I put my On the other side is the t-shirts that I just wear out in the world Just black t-shirts And then varieties of other things I guess my point is at one time there was a system in these closets But what's ended up happening now Is just anything that doesn't need to hang Anything that's not a collared shirt or a suit or a nice sweater or something, just gets kind of nominally folded up and wedged into one of these cubbies. And now I just have to go visual on it. Like, I've got pants that are wedged in the cubby next to a Paris Review hat. There's no order. The order has totally broken down. And same thing for the drawers. Like, as in, like, the junk drawer. Everything is turning into a junk drawer in this house. Oh, no. Like, I know. It's not good.

Mommy, why is that man wearing a Paris Review hat as a diaper? Look away, honey. It's not polite to point.

And I think more critically, why is he pooping?

Well, actually, I have questions about that, too. Let me tell you about this garbage can thing really quickly.

All I want to say is, when you're done with that, will you please come and help? Will you please pie go my life? Because I really need some help. We are going in wildly different directions with you washing out garbage cans.

I mean, it's exactly like that progressive commercial, right? Like turning into your parents. He has locks on his garbage cans, and he says he can never be too careful. And Dr. Rick says with garbage. OK, so let me just tell you really quickly what happened here, because while there are aspects of my life where getting things organized is like I don't want to get into the details here with you now. But there were two kind of digital things related to TBTL that had been sort of hanging over my head that I had no intentions of taking care of yesterday, but then ended up sitting down and doing it. And like, even though these are more in virtual spaces, like it just feels so good to finally get everything like kind of clean lines. I was telling Veve yesterday, I just kept saying, clean lines. This is like kind of things in their place. And sometimes they are big projects. But I want to tell you, this garbage can thing was not like a big project at all. But there is one aspect of it that I'm just realizing would really much appeal to you. Here's how it went down. As I hope most listeners know, Wednesday is the night that I put the garbage bins out to the street. And if you don't know that, now you know it and you have no excuse for forgetting that. And then on Thursdays, which would be yesterday, I bring them back in. In fact, summertime has been great because I can keep my window open here and I hear the trucks come one by one, one for each bin. And so I can get out there and retrieve them before any neighbors throw their dog poop in. And it's I'm fine. Like my mental health is great. As I'm running out the door, like it, like pulling the bin back out of the exhaust of the truck as it drives away, like I'm just getting those things off the street. And as I'm pulling back my garbage bin yesterday, you know, I'm realizing what I always realize, which is it stinks. Like even it stinks right after they empty it. It still stinks because the majority of what we throw in there. Sorry, dear listeners, is our, you know, cat droppings that I scoop from the litter box. You know, I was going to say cat litter, but really, you know, just like the, you know, the nasty stuff. I scoop the litter box once or twice a day. I take it out there.

and i put it in little bags but then they just sit in there and the the can just has this awful stench to it now so now that the weather is nice i've been kind of leaving the lid open a little bit and letting the sun take care of that a little bit i think nothing nothing can combat some

odorific issues like they say that sunlight yeah i mean the the cure for corruption is

transparency there's some corrupt stuff in that litter box yes exactly so yesterday i kind of i'm I'm bringing it back to its little space where it lives outside the garage, and I open it up. I'm like, I'll let the sun do a little work on this. And then I'm like, you know what? I have a hose now. I washed my car for the first time. I washed a car for the first time in like 30 years this weekend. Did you have a bikini car wash? I did. Well, I wore a Paris Review hat around my bathing suit area.

Cut-off jean shorts and a tank top just lathering the hell out of that Volkswagen gulf.

But I did. I was like some birds and shit all over the car. We park under these power lines, and these crows have just been – I don't know what they're doing to us. I think that we are being harassed by crows, but it was just like a – I mean a real paint job, as Tim Robinson might say. So I washed the car. But anyway, I love having a hose. Having an easily accessible hose in the back of our house, Genevieve got one of those flexi hoses that doesn't take a lot of wrangling to wrap it up, which I was against. I'm like, no, traditional hoses, traditional values, traditional hoses in this house. But she tried this flexi hose. It is so much easier to use. She couldn't have been more right about it. I love hosing things down. Being a homeowner is fine. Oh, you hosed them up and down. Oh, I hosed them up and down. Like having a hose changes everything about my life. Taking things outside and being able to hose them off like an old litter box or something is huge. So yesterday, I told you I was going to keep this short. I opened up my garbage bin. I'm like, I'll let it just sort of air out. But then I'm like, you know what? I see that there's actually a little bit of like kind of sandy litter down there. And it's just kind of a nasty affair. Why don't I let this air out a little bit? And then in between tasks later, I should go out, maybe touch the grass a little bit, get some sunshine on my face and maybe just grounding.

That's that's the new hot. Is that the new thing? Ground is no, I get your shoes off, getting your feet in the grass.

That's grounding. Oh, that. OK, that makes them think. click because i think a listener friend of ours posted a reel yesterday or the day before it was about grounding and she took off her shoes and walked around in the grass i didn't realize that that was what was going on there any whoozles um so i'm just like i'll just fill this with some water and some pine saw later and just like let it soak and then empty it out one thing you need to know about our two things you need to know about our garbage bin though is it's one of those big black ones kind of like which is standard these days but we only pay for about half of it So they put like this beige sort of like bin in there that gives you access to half of that bin. And so, you know, it's it doesn't it's not really deep. You don't have to reach all the way down to the bottom to it's just like, I don't know. I don't know, like three feet deep, four feet deep. And when we first got this house, like literally the first week of having this brand new garbage can, something I'd never had from the city before. one of us threw like we were doing some painting project and we threw some like soup container that we're using to hold paint in into the bottom of this thing and it had this big paint spill it was marred from day one with this big paint spill on the bottom of it well yesterday i opened this thing up it stinks it stinks it's got some little you think i would have that sound effect ready You don't need to I'm saying it And it's a little grimy And there's something like Sorry Anyway so I take the hose I start hosing it out a little preliminary hose out Before I'm going to dump some pine saw in there Luke this is the only part that might interest you So I'm glad we got there 20 minutes in Big announcement today by the way about the thaw Somehow the water pressure Starts flopping up that paint that has been at the bottom of what I thought was just like a painted piece of plastic that would never come out the paint peeled off Luke like you love peeling stuff off of appliances so satisfying I was like are you shitting me I reached out I pull the whole thing out I hose it out I fill it with some cleaner I let it soak for a few hours I go back out there I scrub it with my toilet brush a little bit I really need to get another cleaning brush and And then I hose it out again, let it dry in the sun. Luke, it is like a goddamn brand new garbage can. It's the new garbage can that I tricked myself out of by spilling paint in it on day one. So anyway, that is very satisfying.

I just need that at every level of my life. Get a hose, man. I'm telling you. Closets. Oh, I've got hoses, buddy.

Spray it right into the closet. See what happens.

I've got a hose job. I need it on a closet level, emotional, spiritual. Financial, physical. I need to hose this entire situation up and down. I have an emotional hose in different areas.

Yeah, codes.

Hey.

That was rough.

Okay. Let's talk about the TBTL-a-thon, which, of course, is the week of July 3rd. Again, the perfect week to launch your new small business. If it's a quasi-public radio show where you ask for donations. Do it. They always say, when everyone's out of town and distracted. But that's just how it worked out. We're hoping that the 10s will, you know, interrupt their Fourth of July activities long enough to listen to the show and critically to donate. But because we are now the owners or soon will be of TBTL, we are not going to Australia or renting some kind of Japanese van and driving down the coast or any of those other things, Andrew, that cost a pretty penny. We are going to do this year's TBTL-a-thon from my parents' actual basement in Silverdale, Washington.

You want to do a make-believe radio show in a room somewhere. I'm telling you there's no money in that.

We are going to do our make-believe radio show from a room called My Parents' Basement. Is there money in that? We're going to find out, man. We are going to find out. So, yeah, all week we'll be broadcasting from My Parents' Basement. um we are hoping that you'll be able to tune in i do think i don't know i mean listen knowing my mom my mom is both addicted to the attention of being on tbtl and has no idea that tbtl still exists which is a quite a move so my mom for as much as my mom loves being in the limelight i could also see a world in which we don't see her once during the week because she's doing her you know she's a fill-in security guard she's a substitute security guard at the various schools around the school district now they're out for the summer so maybe that'll increase the chances that she'll be around but my mom is funny that way like i'm sure she would love to be on the show also she could be like oh my friend cindy is in town and um we're gonna be uh swimming in day bob bay or something like she's she's not like you or i where if you wanted to do something or be a part of something you would then put the things in place to make sure it happens that's not how she works so we may see a lot of my mom we may see none of my mom what about walt Walt, well, how do you feel about cigar smoke?

I'm fine with cigar smoke. I don't know if I like it like right up in my face, but definitely the wafting of cigar smoke and the wind is a great smell to me.

It's going to be like out of that scene out of Scrooged when I think, I forget, is it the ghost of Christmas future? Whoever the guy is with the golf balls falling out of his body, I feel like, is Bill Murray smoking a cigar somewhat? I feel like cigar smoke being blown in the face is a big part of the movie Scrooge, or at least is what I remember from it.

I feel like you dropped Scrooge references more than any other person, including Bill Murray and whoever directed that. I saw that once in the theater when it came out. I feel like Tinkerbell hits Bill Murray with maybe a skillet. Oh, is that Carol Kane? Oh, God bless. I love Carol Kane.

Is it David Johansson from the New York Dolls that's a cab driver who's smoking? That's what it is, Andrew. I don't know, Luke.

Andrew, nobody knows, nobody knows who smokes a cigar in Scrooged.

Well, the cover of Scrooged, Andrew.

Yeah, he does.

I was going to say in the toaster, he's holding a cigar. He's holding a cigar. I was going to say that. I can picture that. And then I'm going to send you today's show pick. And it's, Jake, it's not so much a cigar as kind of a, would you call it like a, no, it's a cigar. I was going to say maybe a Cigarello. It's like, it's larger than a cigarette, but maybe smaller than a, hold on, this is going to be me taking today's show pick. See, start your weekend early, Andrew. I'm already doing most of the post-show kind of work here for you. Anyway, the point is we may see Walt. Walt does not clamor for the spotlight, though. Yeah, I know. He's a reserve. So we'll have to bring him in if we want him to be part of the show. And again, he will be eating a nutty buddy and smoking a cigar. Oh, a nutty buddy. Those two things I can promise you.

Those are great. Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to it. of course we are like you kind of uh implied or maybe said straight out you know we're we're starting from kind of nothing as far as yeah and now we're here um but you know we're starting from nothing sort of financially so we like you said we can't take a grand trip we can't be spending money that we don't have yet on things so this seemed like a fun way to do the thon have an interesting backdrop i do think it's going to be really fun to basically i don't think i'm going to be sleeping at your parents house but basically living with your parents for a week that's going to be a lot of fun and i'm getting an airbnb but i thought you were going to be staying sure i'll

do they have a hose there's they have a they have a high bed and it's it's the classic high to bed like it's got the bar going right Right through the worst possible place for your back.

Why does this bar go up and down? Right. Why am I literally. Why do I have to chain myself to this bar?

Why does it slowly twist over the course of the night?

So we're going to see. This isn't locked in, but I'm working on seeing if there is a way for us to stream our shows again Monday through Friday. so that people, if you aren't like on a canoe at a campsite on the 4th of July and you want to watch a couple of people do a podcast from a basement somewhere because there's money in that, like we're going to try to get that set up. And we're not ready yet to talk about what we're going to be offering listeners as thank you gifts. But again, kind of following the same rationale, we are coming up with some pretty clever ideas of various kind of content things we can offer throughout the year for different people who donate at different levels. Is it okay for me to say that? We didn't discuss that, but that's just a little teaser, and we'll have more details on that once we kind of firm some things up.

I don't want to get out ahead of ourselves either, Andrew, but some of the thank you gifts will be toiletries and beauty supplies from the various bathrooms in my parents' house. So watch this space for that. There also will be some woohoo food that we'll be offering. You're going to want to eat that right when it gets to your house.

Like go-gurt, but to stay.

Right. Stay-gurt. We're going to send you some So we're just going to go through My parents have My mom loves a garage sale Loves a thrift store And loves to get stuff Now they're not hoarders Don't worry Andrew This is not like that kind of a situation But my mom is definitely prone to picking up little things And I think what we should really And my dad's like We might want to sort of Organize this We might want to cull the herd here Of all these little things that your mom picks up I think we could really kind of feed Two birds with one scone here we go through the house We collect up all of the stuff My mom has at some point Obtained and I say Obtained because she doesn't always purchase it maybe It's by the side of the road who knows we get All of that together and we give that away As thank you gifts as part of the font Actual items from inside my parents actual

Home I like it let's just see Let's downplay that To your parents for now Until they go to turn on a light to read a book at one point, and the light is just simply not there anymore. There's just a ring on the table where the lamp used to be.

It'll take a long time before we get to the appliances. There's a lot of other stuff that we'll be dealing with first. So anyway, yeah, that is the plan. If you didn't get the video in the new TBTL newsletter, well, I mean, I don't know what you're doing with your life, but you really should go to tbtl.net and go to that little tab that says Extra Extra and click on it and subscribe to the new newsletter because we did put out a video this week that was detailing the same information. And that is going to be – I'm just going to keep saying it probably for the next 2,000 episodes. It's very important that you sign up for the new TBTL newsletter because you would have known, like, what, hours ago that we're going to be at my parents' house? When did the people on the newsletter find out this information?

Wednesday. That went out on Wednesday.

I mean, days ago. So you are days ahead of everybody else in knowing this information if you're signed up for the newsletter.

Yeah, exactly. I got a text message from a listener in the Boston area today, I believe. I don't know who it was. It was a 617 number. Here, I'll just read the whole number out loud. No, but somebody who has, I think, a background in kind of marketing and direct asks. I can't think of what they're direct donations. I don't know. Something in that realm. direct appeals or whatever and said hey i have some tips for you on how to increase you know the number of signups for your new newsletter and one of thing you know basically talk about incentives like maybe have a contest or something and i was wondering luke would you be willing to like let's say the next 100 people to sign up for the newsletter all get to go on a date with you but it's 100 dates it's not one date with oh it's not a group date no it's 100 dates and then you write a book about it is this a jennifer garner film yet it could be 100 dates she made the

mistake of agreeing to go on 100 dates um uh i'm happy to do that i mean probably probably should run it by becca but um do we have an is she she our hr person because we also need to go on 100 platonic dates okay great no there's gonna be kissing we need to give um we need to do some more giveaways that uh have the listeners kind of on tenterhooks the reason i'm thinking of this because when becca and i were literally at the top of a mountain the other day we had hiked up this mountain she gets a call and she answers and i'm like what is she doing answering her phone at the top of the mountain and then she's like uh-huh this is becca uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh and she's waiting and i'm like waiting and she goes well you know what i'm actually on top of a mountain right now um so i have to go but thank you so much and she hung up i go first of all what do you think the chances are that person believes you right like that sounds like the biggest made up story of all time she goes it's opb she's a supporter of oregon public broadcasting she goes And I was waiting to hear if I had won something because they just had their pledge drive. And if you donate during the pledge drive, you're entered in a drawing, which is very smart, because then when they call you to try to, like, upsell you or whatever, you're hanging around on the line trying to find out if you won the whatever the drawing was. So she didn't win. They were just trying to give more money. They're very smart, though, that they know that if you think maybe when you see OPB on your caller ID and you've donated and you're in the running for something, you're going to answer that and listen to them longer than, you know. So what we need to do, first of all, is have some flashy giveaway. Then we need to get all the phone numbers of all the listeners. Then we need to start calling them, Andrew.

And all of them get a kiss from Luke. That's all I wanted.

Who will get a kiss from Luke? Do you know that the first time that I ever kissed a girl, I was pretty stoked about it. I was in, I think it was eighth grade. It was at Snow King Ice Arena. I've told this story before. But then what really hurt was later on that gal and I broke up. I think she probably broke up with me. And then I heard through the grapevine that she said I was a bad kisser.

Oh, right. I remember you mentioning that.

So I just want to put that out there before the 100 kiss challenge. It has my kissing has been described as less than great.

But that's why you need to do that. By the time you get to like 97, you're going to have it locked in.

How much?

By the way, is there an F-18 strafing your home? Oh, you can hear that. Yeah, it's kind of loud, huh? But I mean, that sounds like military business. Yeah, I don't know. Boy, that's funny that you can hear that. Can you often hear that? I thought that. No, I've never. I have the windows open.

That's probably why. I like it by the way It's a sonic journey I was actually for Monday's show Which we're going to actually pre-record Because Monday's a holiday I was toying with the idea Of hightailing it up to the other spot And because I'm going to go up there And mow the lawn And I was like Can I do my part of the show From the lawnmower Can I run a cable out the window So I like a little ambient sound And I've never heard I've never heard an airplane before In your broadcast neighborhood But anyway Okay So, yes, I've agreed to kiss a minimum of 100 listeners. Okay. And I've also promised that it's not going to be great. How much nose do you involve in your kissing? Do you really just try to get the entire nose in your mouth? Yeah. I try to, yeah. Ideally, you get the entirety of the other person's nose way down them.

I want to riff, but everything that I'm about to say, I feel like, first of all, is actionable. We're still operating under the aegis of APM, and there is still technically HR. Yes, and I promise you, if I say any of the words, if people hear me say any of the jokes I'm thinking right now, nobody will ever have sex again who's listening to this show. And so I'm just going to try to save all of you from that destiny.

All right. Discretion is the better part of valor. Clearly. Let's go to the break, and then when we come back, I've made an executive decision, Andrew, which you may have realized during the promo phase of the show. So I think that we should talk about Kathy, who I flew next to. And I think we should talk about the most trusted brand. Kathy may be my new most trusted brand in America. So we'll talk about both of those things when we come back. Different spelling, I think. Oh, yeah. We're Kathy with a K. We stan Kathy with a K. And Kathy Geistwight, I think, is with a C. All right. Back with more TBTL in just a moment.

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready.

Hey, let's thank some dazzling donors. These are the wonderful, generous people that are dazzling us with their donation of dough each month. And we sure do appreciate it. Folks like Ashley Wilson, who's there in Dallas, Texas. Ashley says, Dear Luke and Andrew, I want to take a moment to express my heartfelt gratitude for the amazing content you produce on your podcast. Too beautiful to live. Oh, that's the one Ashley's talking about. Thank you, Ashley. Your wit, humor, and insightful commentary always brighten my day, and I look forward to tuning in every chance I get. As a loyal listener, I'm inspired by your dedication to creating a platform that explores a wide range of topics and fosters meaningful conversations. Are we writing this down? This is really making the show sound pretty good. I know.

This is great. I feel like this is—

Hey, I'd listen to this. We should start—this is our new— Ashley, you're our new PR person for outward-facing projects, Ashley. You're hired. Your ability to bring people together from all walks of life is truly a gift, and I feel privileged to be a part of your community. I believe in the importance of supporting content creators like you. We are definitely that, Ashley. We are, if nothing else, content creators. Did you hear my story about my garbage can? Come on. Hey. It's content, and you created it, my friend. Just like I create some content in that Paris Review hat just about every day.

I knew it. Go ahead. Finish this. I did not read this all the way to the end, but I started to get a suspicious feeling as you were reading this, Luke. Did you see what was coming up here?

No, only when you said, I knew it, I thought, he did see me poop in that hat. And then I looked down and I saw some letters in the rest of the email that make some of this make more sense. Let's all find out together. I'm thrilled to make a donation to help ensure that your podcast continues to thrive. Thank you for all that you do and keep up the fantastic work. Best regards. Chat GPT prompt. Quote, write a dazzling donor message for Luke and Andrew, hosts of the podcast Too Beautiful to Live. Love you guys.

well played Ashley Wilson when you repeated the name of the show your podcast to you beautiful to live I'm like oh that's a very formal way of writing that and then some of the other things I was like wait we've been playing around with chat GPT a little bit in the TBTL space and like some of some of these key themes kind of come up and I was like wow I was Luke I'm not even joking I was going to text you privately and say do you think that Ashley used like chat GPT to write

her dazzling donor message i just because despite the amount of conversation that's happened around chat gpt on this very show somehow my brain still doesn't pick it up quickly i just i had written a whole life for ashley which is like hey not everyone has to be into jokes like i'm not even kidding i'm not i am so not kidding you as i'm reading it i'm just thinking like wow this is a person who's pretty formal but really supportive and they're donating so they obviously like tbtl but like not everyone has to be so cash the way that you and i are in the way a lot of people tend to be in this day and age i was like it's kind of nice to to find somebody who like i had created an entire personality for ashley based on this before i ever thought oh maybe this is just a

chat program i um don't want to get too far off track but let me just share this with you really briefly do you remember in yesterday's uh dazzling donor message i think listener jeff said that he started listening to tbtl in 2015 when he read a blurb about us and some article about like podcasts that you should check out well listener mike found what he thinks to be is yes the article and it is just one blurb and it was from like something called i'm looking at the jacksonville.com what i gotta read this to you so it's like a rundown of various podcasts to check out but i was gonna ask you if you think as in jacksonville florida i it's jacksonville.com i'll let you look up what that is but listen to the description and i'm wondering if way back in 2015 they had a i write this listen to this too beautiful to live hosts luke burbank and andrew walsh break down life current events pop culture puttering laser baldness and helmets into two basic categories awesome or not awesome the date which is not anything that i'd ever even done with you on the show um the daily podcast features 90 minutes of burbank and walsh living and talking about life right along with walsh as he drives a monster truck or what was behind ihop's name change

i see i don't think that was written by a bot just a person who's not detail oriented by the way jacksonville.com is the florida times union okay website can i quickly very quickly um insert a correction uh a listener who i believe is named lane reached out to remind me or let me know that when we're reading articles that are at the sfgate.com which is i always call it the chronicle because when sfgate was created it was actually the digital place where the san francisco chronicles pieces were published that stopped in 2017 so i have just been referring to Those are different things, SFGate and The Chronicle. So I don't know what the – anyway, thank you. I think it was Lane. Thank you for the update on that. I'll try to not do that going forward. I'm wondering if this Jacksonville.com – it also says the Florida Times Union. I don't know if these – I'm wondering, were we written up in the Florida Times Union by somebody who kind of occasionally walked through a room when their partner was listening to the show? How did they get that amount of information that's pretty specific but also get it kind of twisted?

Laser baldness and helmets. I don't know Think about what laser baldness would be Your hair was shot off by a laser This SF Gate thing though is confusing Because a lot of other Journalistic entities like even the Plain dealer is the same as Cleveland.com Like well

The Oregonian is Oregon Live now yeah and so like there was a lot of like when these newspapers went digital and it's been terrible by the way like using that Cleveland example like the Cleveland Plain Dealer used to be like a real juggernaut of journalism it was like a huge newsroom and now it's like it's they got rid of everybody with like the background in journalism and announced the people who like write the the calendar listings are basically running running the newspaper now you know so but there are a lot of things in that but I guess you're right SF Chronicle or I guess Lane is right SF Chronicle and sf gate are very different things but i always assumed that as well yeah so sorry for that and

also i don't i can't exactly remember if the person's name was lane so i may be really doubling down on my factual errors um anyway all that is to say ashley well played very well you got me i think andrew figured out sooner than i did but um but thank you and um you know i assume that these will all be uh ai generated next year and from the listeners from the donors and let me just

say thank you for donating maestro on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go

hey we've got to thank leslie tunstall uh is in saint paul minnesota leslie leslie's been a long time listener leslie has the pronouncer i'm now i'm worried did i say it right uh think as if you were going to say bristol but instead just say tunstall yeah that's right right yeah i think you got that there was a singer kt tunstall oh yeah who uh who who yeah who's who's got some great songs out there i wonder if that was an improvement for all tunstals in america in terms of people knowing how to pronounce their last name yes uh leslie says i'll just add my voice to the already deafening chorus of tens who struggle and fail to adequately convey and leslie have you thought about chat gpt turn it loose just say 180 words chat gpt go for it uh who struggle and fail to adequately convey in 180 words our profound gratitude appreciation and sincere love for what you give us five days a week now thanks leslie uh you guys are a north star quick definition of a 10 the only people in the world who absolutely dread weekends wow leslie again a very very compelling pitch for the show like like you know hey enjoy tbtl but just be aware you're going to

start dreading saturday and sunday because there's no tbtl that's really sweet leslie left i don't want to get into leslie's personal business but leslie left a very sweet voicemail for us a couple of months ago i think was kind of going through some health stuff and really explained how tbtl was like like and i think even re-listening to tbtl at times during a period where i don't think that she was able to kind of get out or out and about much or whatever and left a very heartfelt message on the machine talking about what TBTL... I mean, you want to talk about humbling, Luke. It was one of those moments where I'm like, wow, man, you and I are up here talking about your promise to kiss the listeners. I'm out here trying to kiss the listeners. Right, and kind of forgetting and me just getting in my head about all of the fumbles and bumbles I make, but that, oh, this really means something to folks like Leslie, and that means a lot to me. So thanks, Leslie.

Thank you, Leslie. We really appreciate you. And as we keep saying, only because it's true, we absolutely could not do this without you. So thank you very much and hope that – hope you're feeling better too. Hello and welcome to Top Story. All right. I've been kicking this can down – not unlike those clowns in Congress, Andrew.

Don't praise the machine.

And we are going to talk about the debt ceiling here on a Friday. I've been kicking this can down the road for a few days. It's a story from something called morningconsults.com, which I believe is some sort of business analysis type of place that likes to put out things like this to get, as we like to say, a little earned media to get us talking about whatever it is that they will consult for you, presumably the morning. They did a study. I actually do you know that I actually looked up the methodology of this, Andrew, and I screen capped a photo of the methodology and then pasted it to my other computer's desktop. So if you asked how did they how did they end up here, I could tell you. But now I'm working off of a different computer. So what I can tell you about the methodology was they somehow did a survey of, I don't know, between 800 and a couple of thousand people, having them kind of basically look at names of different brands and then rank how much they trusted the brands. So that's a very poor description of what the methodology was. But it wasn't like – when I read it, I was like this doesn't seem like it's just like – what's the word I'm looking for? Like a ZergNet poll online or something. Sure, yeah. I think there was enough there there that it's worth talking about. It wasn't just like a complete BS.

thing and in fact there was another link so i clicked on the like easy description of the methodology and i got a little cloudy and then it said if you would like a more detailed explanation click on this link and i said no i'm in san diego county we have a hot tub i'm not messing with that point is i do think that there's some veracity to this and um so they uh they they ranked the the or at least they had their uh you know andrew that i managed to save you know what i think what i what i'm saving is the um is the methodology and not the actual results somehow i came all the way back from san diego without the results of what this thing actually was i'm gonna

have to go back and try to find it i the link that you have and i was like trying not to look at it closely because i want you to sort of reveal them to me on the show but the link that you sent me um is from morning consult is that the one that you're looking for yeah but i can't find i'm getting a 404 oh i'm not here let me resend it to you i'm emailing you now this is great what

i'm gonna tell you is that the most trusted brand in america according to you're starting with number one yeah i don't know i'm just trying to get through this man i'm just trying to live i just want to talk about kathy honestly but i i owe i i owe the i owe the listeners some finality on this but really i just want to talk about kathy and her and her mysterious ways as

as you two once said do you think dazzling donor leslie is now like you know what i am looking forward to the weekend did you uh did you get my link is it working for you not yet but again you You know, my email's a mess, too, that I've been telling you. Did you send it to my real account? I send it to your real account, I think. All right, let me do this. I'm going to spoil it for me, and I'm going to give you the top. Can you do some sound effects? I want to do a countdown from the top ten. I think this is the way we should do this. Are you ready? Okay, sure. I've got some sound effects right here. You look like a dream. These are your dream brands, America. Thank you. Wow, way to make that work. Number ten.

Sorry, keep going. FedEx. Ooh, this almost I know this is Home Depot

This is FedEx adjacent I will say that Home Depot is not on the list So it's appropriate to use this music

Number 5 you said No, number 10 is FedEx Number 1, we're going all 10

Yeah, backwards from 10 Number 9, this is surprising to me The Weather Channel

That one also jumped out at me Because don't you feel like It's way It's not even

It's the Gabagool song

It's just very long Andrew This is a 7 minute song I didn't know you were starting at 10

I thought it was funny when it was just the Sopranos song

I also I want to tell you that I was also surprised That the Weather Channel would make it Because it feels like the way we interpret the weather Is when they predict it Correctly And it is what they said we forget about it and when they say when they're wrong when they when they get it wrong we remember it so you only remember it being wrong weird that it would have that kind of you know trust in the

brand yeah and you know it also i need to rethink this too because i was just sort of thinking like the top brands have sort of come to mind the brands with the most like kind of staying power or or impact on my brain but no this is like literally trust and so it's interesting also FedEx because I think that why not I'll tell you what, they're not UPS I was going to say, why not UPS or why not the USPS I got some thoughts maybe that's it because people are like, well, I get a little nervous when I'm sending something off will they protect my package will it get where it's supposed to go because if not, I have no recourse and so people must have thought, yeah, well, FedEx is the one that I'm going to turn to with my precious shipping needs, the weather channel I have plans or I'm worried about a storm coming or loved ones living in an area where a storm is coming so this is trust in the way that i was trusting in the way

that i was trusting that rope when i climbed that tree yeah like in other words you're saying that people is it is it that the people are saying they trust these brands the most or that it involves

the most trust to actually use these products their net trust rating the share who say they trust each brand to do the right thing minus the share who don't trust the brand okay to do the right thing it sounds like here um i didn't read the methodology in fact like that's the i was just sort of freelancing okay but i am taking too long here we got to get to kathy ak uh dove is coming in at number eight dove you're trusting your skin to dove the care um it seems also like well keep going with the list i have a theory that's building here number seven is visa so with your credit cards your credit your financial situation you trust

I just, I trust. It's a weird, you know, you'd think I saw.

this list at some point but like i just have trust is a weird thing i mean again i am putting a lot of my trust in visa in that i have one and i'm trusting that they won't just put like a forty thousand dollar erroneous charge on there and i'm trusting that to the degree that they have access i mean my bank card my debit card is a visa so i'm trusting that they won't allow all the money to be withdrawn from my account so there is trust there but do i trust them like like i'm i am entrusting them with something but do i sit down and go god visa they are trustworthy i feel like i don't the question is do you trust me with the debit card that i got in the mail yesterday that

says andrew walsh too beautiful to biz on it i was not ready to see that i can tell you those don't

work at casinos i got mine in the mail yesterday also we only have like whatever you said you sent

to the i think we have five or seven dollars there's ten dollars in that account i can check I'm a $10-ionaire, my friend. Okay, so we got Visa number seven. Maybe the trust there is like, hey, listen, if my credit card gets lost or stolen, I know that I can trust them to do the right thing. That is not going to affect my bottom line. Number six on the list, Cheerios. I think that's interesting. Maybe like as a heart-smart food?

I could see that because it's also something that a lot of American kids grew up eating. So it's sort of It's nostalgic, it's comforting It's something that dear old mom Might have put out for you And so in adulthood, if you're taking this survey You trust Cheerios Yes, I could definitely see that

Because Cheerios does establish itself Like that's kind of what they're putting out there Other cereals are sort of like fun Or like, you know, for kids Or like rocking and rolling

Or it's a vampire

Edgy stuff

Cheerios are not edgy

No, they're not. They're just good for your heart, supposedly. Don't say that, Andrew. It's going to stick. Kleenex is coming in at number five. Now we're in the good part here, number five. But now why do you trust Kleenex? To what? Like, to not rob your train?

Like, why are we trusting Kleenex? Well, okay, so my theory that I feel like I'm still holding on to is that these are largely the most well-known brands in various areas. almost like i trust kleenex because it's the tissue brand that i see the most yeah that's or dove is a brand of soap that is very very ubiquitous it's almost like are these trustworthy places or brands are they just the most well-known brands i'm gonna move on to number four here but

i'm and i am not usually one to criticize our um production decisions or editorial decisions but like are you worried that this music that we're playing is a little bit too on the nose like is Is this what Marketplace is going to do? I got some Gabagool. And then I woke up the next day and got...

We've still got a minute and a half left, baby. Let's do the numbers. You have to finish all your Gabagool, my friend.

Let's do the numbers. Every now and then I'd be talking about Kleenex in the background. I hear somebody growling about Gabagool.

Or you just hear, Scooby-Doo.

Here's number four on the list. Everybody's waiting for this. Lysol. Lysol. Now, I think of that as both an air freshener and a cleaning supply company, right? So people just trust Lysol.

Is Lysol an air freshener? For some reason, when you said that I pictured the little tree, the air freshener, you mean like you spray it in the air? Yeah. It's sort of a – yeah.

It's funny. I don't trust them to do the right thing for the environment. I don't even know if I'm right about that, but you just think of Lysol. I trust them to do the wrong thing for the environment. You just trust them to kill germs by any means necessary. Number three on the list is Amazon. I trust them. Oh, wow. Sure, yeah. Well, you know, this is interesting because as an organization, I don't trust them at all. I don't trust them to treat their employees right. But you can really trust them to make good on anything, right? Amazon is not going to fight with you. They're not going to nickel and dime you on anything that you buy. Like, it's going to be guaranteed that they'll make it easy to return.

I learned a new thing. I haven't tried it yet regarding Amazon. When I was in the Lyft going to the airport a week or two ago, I got in and the driver was very worked up about something. He was on the phone with, like, the Amazon help desk or something. And he explained the whole thing to me later, but he had, like, purchased something. Or I think his wife had purchased something From like a third party You know how you can do that at Amazon a lot now You go on Amazon but you're not buying it It's not coming from a warehouse where they don't let people urinate It's coming from a different warehouse Owned by a different person And it had come in the mail It was like some kind of sort of large piece of furniture And it wasn't what they wanted And he wanted to send it back

and the uh the the person the seller wasn't going to take it back without him paying for shipping presumably the shipping would have been considerable and the guy who had sold it to him was like no so he this guy on the phone he's talking to the amazon person like the 1-800 number whatever and they're like sorry this is not a this is not um uh something where we can pay the shipping that it's in the contract and he kept saying you know well i don't want it anymore and you should and then he said i want to file i think what he said was an a to b i want to file an a to b report okay and then the entire affect of the woman on the phone changed oh because she's on speaker or the the call is a speaker yeah we're in a lift i'm hearing the whole thing i'm kind of like going back and forth i'm like is this the greatest customer service ever i don't know i just wanted to get to the airport he's like i want to again i think the term is a to b he goes I want to file an A to B complaint I want an A to B complaint And I swear to god it was like he said Beetlejuice It was like this lady went from being like

We don't do A to B Oh well you know I'm googling like crazy You're sure that you didn't mishear And it wasn't a BBB complaint Better Business Bureau

No no no no It would not have been BBB Or even Big Beautiful Babies It was A to B was what he was calling it and the woman said okay you want to file an a to b report and he explained to me later that that is some kind of thing within the amazon world where essentially what happens is now the person who sent him this thing and won't take it back for free is like on notice and if they don't fix the problem with him after like two days they're not allowed to sell on amazon it was the like break glass in case of emergency thing and maybe maybe Maybe I'm like, you know, I'm breaking some news here. But by the end of the call, she said, OK, you have to let 48 hours go by and then call back and then we'll get the shipping covered for you or we'll make the guy cover the shipping. He was basically like reporting this seller to the highest level that was going to now put the put the pressure back on the seller. But I swear it was called an A to B. Someone out there knows what I'm talking about. And I'm 99 percent sure it was called an A to B reporter, an A to B complaint. and maybe like Amazon to business. Would that make sense? A to B? Like from the Amazon itself to this business that's selling through it?

As I Google around, I am finding a lot of results. Amazon USB-A to USB-B is a core cable I could buy. What about USB-C? I could probably do that as well. You can USB-C yourself out of this conversation. I've actually got a lot of USB-C to USB-C cables. Anyway, let's move on here. Keep going. Number three, ladies and gentlemen, was Amazon, famously the A to B report categorizers. Number two is, well, this is a twist. Huh. UPS. Oh, no. So you had, this is the only organization that has a direct competitor also on the list. FedEx, I thought, was feeling pretty good at number 10. And I did not realize that UPS, your sworn enemy, is all the way up at number two, two, Luke. Wow. That shocks me.

Honestly, it could have been up there for me, too, if not for what we all just went through together as both listeners and co-hosts of this program, which was them losing my stuff.

And number one, which you wanted to start with, but we're finally here now. I turned what could have been a two-minute conversation into a 20-minute conversation. Number one, Kool-Aid. Yabba-dabba-doo. No, it's actually Band-Aid.

Oh, Band-Aid. Yes, Band-Aid. The most trusted brand in America.

Yeah, which, I mean, again, is kind of like in the field of like, hey, something bad has happened to me, hopefully minorly. But I trust Band-Aid. I trust Band-Aids on my kids' knees and elbows or what have you.

Yeah, I feel like it's the Cheerios of covering up wounds.

well that's what that's what their slogan that's how they've rebranded lately yeah um did you have

um any like when you were a kid did you ever get some cool like um i don't know what it would have been smoky and the bandit band-aids or any kind of band-aids with a i was just trying to think you know a circa 84 back to the future band-aids or something no i didn't i i'm our family didn't

go in for stuff like that but also i don't think i would want it like i don't like stickers i don't even as a kid to this day i do not first of all this day band-aids ick me out like i hate seeing band-aids i don't know why they just ick me out i think they're very gross um and when i see a band-aid that's like and i don't know why like i would be i'm not suited to be a parent um like i see somebody with like a colorful band-aid that is like with spongebob or something i'm like ew like I don't know. I just don't like – I also just don't like stickers. I think I've told you before I was babysitting our upstairs neighbor's kid. This goes back years now. But, like, I ran into – I would babysit her from time to time. And then one time I ran into her and her mom at the grocery store, and she had stickers. And she was so excited to put, like, a sticker on my hand. And I'm like, okay, you can go ahead and do that. I was like, oh, you know I care for this child if I'm letting this child put stickers. And not even a new sticker either.

It's because you don't like how it looks or the glue on your skin.

Luke literally can't explain why It's not like it hurts me It just seems gross to me They just seem like germ magnets sort of And as much as I like cleanliness I'm not a germaphobe But there's something just icky about stickers Because I feel like they're never A sticker eventually is going to start peeling at the corners Whether it's on human skin or not There's something about I hate stickers on my food I hate stickers all the time I hate peeling a sticker off of an apple And it won't come off right And then they leave some stickiness behind I'm like I'm supposed to eat that shit

Wow I mean obviously this has come up before But I guess I didn't realize quite how Intensely you feel this I'm not like hugely Pro sticker in my life But I definitely don't dislike them To the degree It's probably for the best That you didn't end up having young kids Because think about The rear window in your car Would just be a bunch of shitty stickers

Nose prints, nose prints, and stickers, yeah.

Yeah, if there's a nose print in your car, you put it there for a reason. Damn right. Let's talk about Kathy really quickly. She was our partner in the row that Becca and I were in flying home from San Diego. So she's aisle?

She's aisle.

She's aisle. Becca's middle. I'm window. And a very nice older gal. Looked like she's probably in her mid-70s. Wearing a sweatshirt. I've already told you about this off-air. She's wearing a sweatshirt that had probably 50 small lighthouses portrayed on it with different names. I believe these would have been maybe the lighthouses of the Northeast or something.

Makes a good sweatshirt or a puzzle.

Uh-huh. Absolutely. Imagine a puzzle come to life, and then you are wearing it on an Alaska Airlines flight. And she just looked like a very just kind of sweet, like I said, sort of grandmotherly type. And we all get kind of situated, and the plane takes off. And I noticed that she has a pretty large bag, almost like a sort of a reusable shopping bag type of thing, but bigger. The entire—now, she's not very tall, so she doesn't need the legroom under the seat in front of her. But under that seat in front of her is this bag. And in that—and the bag is open. And in the bag are many, many more smaller bags. and once we reach cruising altitude she proceeds to start retrieving things from the bag and those things are every kind of food you could imagine and she's just she starts eating when we reach cruising altitude she does not stop eating until we are about to touch down and i want to be very clear this is this conversation what was amazing to me about it was not it's nothing to do with how much food anybody chooses to eat or calories or body type it was just a pretty diminutive little old lady who was just going ham on her snacks that she brought maybe the most amazing part was that i looked over at some point she had a turkey sandwich all wrapped up in cellophane that was homemade but it wasn't just like some uh you know lunch meat she got it was like the turkey sandwich you have the day after thanksgiving like she had carved off a significant chunk of turkey breast and just went to town on the sandwich and uh i noticed that she had taken a piece of tape and she had written kathy and taped it to her water cup the one they give you on the airplane

she had uh she had um that i didn't realize i thought all my instagram page andrew i thought i saw the picture of a cup with the little piece of tape and handwritten kathy on it but i thought that that was some cup that she pulled out of her bag that she was like using at the

airport or something nope that's from the airline we all got one she puts a label on it she labeled i guess to make sure that you know uh becca and i didn't decide to yoink it or something but um that was what really jumped out at me was that she had labeled her cup her very disposable cup from the from the airline um but she finishes her turkey sandwich and then she's eating some pretzels and then i look over and becca kind of like elbows me and i look over and she's she's um pulling out a string cheese which is also i just love a person of a certain age eating a string cheese because it's very very childlike food don't you feel like a string cheese is mostly the it's mostly the the the world of like a kids you know who just got done um

i don't know at recess or something i think like i don't obviously i don't play in these ch-

cheese spaces but i feel like when you get older the equivalent of that are the little hockey pucks that come in red wax like as you're a kid you eat the string cheese and then you're an adult and then you eat the little you know i'm talking about the little round ones yeah yeah those are like um

a baby bell or something i mean they're probably different laughing cow i think they're different um they're different brands but yeah that that kind of thing i um i don't think i've ever seen somebody in their mid-70s eating a string cheese on an airplane that they brought from home Then she's eating an apple An entire apple

And you said eating not in slices I asked you this off the air I thought that was interesting Because sometimes apples can be rough on teeth And I, you know, so that's good to know That it was not cut up Just chomping into it

No, just going for it And then, so this is now I wasn't paying attention to each and everything But what I was clocking Because I also slept for a little while on this flight So what I clocked was a very substantial turkey sandwich all of it um the pretzels the string cheese i think two of those the entire apple that would be like for me and again none of this has to do with what anyone makes in their choices around food i'm just looking at this person i'm thinking about me and i i eat a lot of food a lot i would probably personally be like pretty full from that next thing i look over full a very well-filled sandwich bag or ziploc full of at someone pointed out instagram totally not crushed ridged potato chips it's like somehow she had managed to bring these chips on the plane without them getting damaged at all which is a veteran move as somebody mentioned on instagram god i love ruffles you're making me hungry now and then she just was eating like the only thing that stopped this smorgasbord was that eventually the flight attendants came by and we're like everyone has to put everything away we're landing but i think if it would have been a longer flight we may have been able to she you know i don't know if she was ever going to stop and i loved it my point in all this is i loved i loved labeling the water cup i loved bringing your own snacks i loved just the two and a half hour journey of what's he going to pull out of that bag next it was uh it was amazing so kathy i just i want to salute you on this friday you've really changed what I thought was possible about air travel. Hey, let's do a little music for your weekend before we get out of here. Andrew, what song would you like to play?

How's about this, Luke? Alex Leahy, an Australian musician who I think every time Alex Leahy, I don't know much about her or them. I'm actually not positive on pronouns. I'm pretty sure her. I don't know much about Alex Leahy. All I know is every now and then I get an email from some sort of promotional company saying, hey, Alex Leahy has a new album coming out. This is the latest single. And I'm like, oh, that's a jam. And then I always play it on music for your weekend. Perfect. So the new record is called The Answer Is Always Yes. And this is the single. I think this album just dropped this week. This is the single On The Way Down by Alex Leahy.

Put your hands up on my shoulder While you look up for the other Waiting for a better offer Waiting for someone to take your breath away Used to put you in the shower After blitzing happy hour Making sure that you were breathing Now I'm left for dead and you couldn't care less, no I'll see you on the way down Say you don't need me around I'll see you on the way down No, I don't need you around, no Let me hang until the dial tone Such an uncommittal no-show Told me that you got a new phone And I'll let you fake it Cause I can't take it

You are shocked and surprised to hear that I like this song, I assume. i i like this it also is keeping with our continued connection to music that is made by australians

yeah i know so that seems to be a real theme on this program yep and the the beths as well although they are they um i think the beths are australian too right yes or maybe new zealand new zealand yeah we have a whole bunch of like kind of kind of power poppy um songs like that out of that part of the world and yeah like put it in my goddamn veins the song that i would like to suggest um

is from 1995 so we only bring you the absolute newest jams here on music for your weekend i

got a text is it jeremy by pearl jim that would be 395 i just think that'd be just so funny if you're just like that would this is a song from 1992 it smells like teen

Thank you.

spirit um i think it used to be like kind of played on the radio a lot but it's a really good

song we do get suggestions like that by the way speaking of which send in your music for your weekend suggestions luke at tbtl.net please put music for your weekend in the subject line we can always use more suggestions in the hopper we do sometimes get someone saying how about black by pearl jam and i'm like that is a great song i sometimes it's like a song that i just feel the listeners of tbtl have heard a lot oh i don't want to set that standard because someday i may want to play jeremy by pearl jam and i want to do that exactly sometimes we're just in the mood to hear something so i got a text last night from my daughter adelaide and uh she was listening to kexp she said i'm hearing some very good music on kexp and then she linked to the song and i guess they were doing um don slack who does the swing and doors show over there on kxb i said he was doing his fifth annual 90s alt country show which talk about put it in my veins i mean 90s alt country was a big mood for old lb but the song that addy was linking to is by a band called um blue mountain and the song is called blue canoe and what's really funny about blue they there it seems to be a kind of a something they come back to over and over again but like here's what was sort of interesting to me about my daughter who's 29 years old living in seattle living on capitol hill listening to kexp sending me this song this song came out when she was like one i used to obsessively listen to this record and this particular song i used to wear this song out when she was like two years old i'd be sitting in my capitol hill apartment at 19 or 20 listening to this particular song and like it just felt very full circle like you know and we hadn't talked about it's not like one of the wilco records that i you know was playing you know throughout her childhood or still would play now for camping like this is not a song that we've discussed it's a fairly obscure i'll be totally honest with you it sounds like alt country from

the 90s i've never heard it so the band is blue mountain right the band is blue never heard heads

nor tales of this and again i don't want to oversell it it's it's a it's a catchy alt country song from the 90s it's exactly what you think you're going to hear if you know about that kind of music but there was something that was like just you know i it felt i don't want to say profound but it just felt interesting to me to hear my daughter or to see that my daughter was like listening to hours of radio and but pick this song out was like hey dad you should listen to this song and i'm just thinking your old dad was listening to this song when you were you were

You're putting stickers on the back window of my car.

When I was strapping another Paris Review hat to your derriere, I was rocking out to the song. So anyway, maybe we can hear that. It's a little from Blue Mountain. The song is Blue Canoe. The album is Dog Days.

Luke, I'm going to just give one caveat here. I don't know if your show sheet had a link or not. If so, I accidentally blew it out. So I'm playing this off of YouTube. Jump in if for some reason I've called up the wrong version. Okay. Okay.

Oh, Andrew? Is this the wrong one? I think I have the right one here, though. So can I play that? I can cut out.

You son of a... I closed the tab. I closed... I trusted you. You are my least trusted brand.

No, that was totally the right version.

I was about to say, oh, I'm going to cut all that out. Now the listeners know what I sound like when I'm planning on cutting something out. Alright, sorry. As you were, that was actually totally the right version. Here we go.

Riding around the county Drinking from a jar The blue canoe up on top of the park Hopping, darling, I'll be a stranger Sit back and relax Cause there ain't no danger I'd rather stay out here under the trees There's a wind on the lake Stars in the sky But if you need me To make you feel high

All right, so there you go. Some pretty standard 90s alt country that has now reentered my life about 27 years later. You know what I was also really into at this time was Golden Smog, which was like a super group of alt country. That was, like, I think Jeff Tweedy from Wilco, one of the guys from the Jayhawks, one of the guys from Sunvolt. Oh, that was another thing Addie said in her text messages. I don't know. I don't know how to feel totally about this. She goes, she sent me a link to this song. She goes, if this doesn't put you in a summer, evening, sunset, few beers deep, mood, nothing will. She goes, followed up with a Jayhawks tune, a fucking chorus. She goes, I need to get into my Jayhawks era. I think this is going to be huge for me. So there you go I've raised her right

Or I raised her Or I raised her Here's something that I find interesting So I had not heard of this band I wanted to see where they're from They're from Oxford, Mississippi Maybe you already said that But essentially started by two main members I believe Carrie Hudson and Laurie Sterrott I don't know if I'm saying that name right But interesting Laurie Sterrott is the twin sister of the bass player for Wilco John Sterrott How do you say it?

stir it stir it yeah i actually know him he's the only person from wilco who i am actually friends with who actually returns your call yeah so that's his sister his twin well what i guess we're not such good friends that i knew he had a twin sister but now you have something to talk about finally uh no he was on um he came to wait wait like years ago i think maybe when i was fill in hosting and he came up and introduced himself after the show and i was like yeah you're the one of the guys in a wilco he's like yeah and then we like i think he owns a b&b somewhere i mean you know they're also playing and he's still in wilco but like i think he and his wife own a

own like a b&b somewhere like he wasn't a guest he wasn't no he was like in the audience there's

been a couple times that happened one time oliver platt you know oliver platt yeah there is yeah he comes up after the show again just there to watch it and i was like you know i was i like like a lot of the stuff oliver platt has done i was kind of geeking out he was more excited to be talking to us about wait wait and i said what are you doing in town he goes oh we film here i'm on like one of those like chicago whatevers and he still is and every time i see

a promo what did he actually say he literally called it like a chicago whatever that is awesome

it was hilarious and i always think of that because he's still on i think he's chicago

medical or something chicago med i'm looking at it now um you know i i feel like when you said that i pictured a man who looked like him but not i think i i don't know if i've actually ever seen

him in anything uh oh you have the reason i um i mean i'm he's he's he's an actor who is in the kinds of movies i think that you at least some of them that i think you would like um but maybe not i don't know he's from windsor canada who knew i'm looking at all these movies like again like

i know of him i feel like it's the type of this again the type of reference that genevieve will drop from every now and then like i could see genevieve are you saying you didn't see bicentennial man i was gonna just i did not see bicentennial man okay um let's see here yeah i don't know i mean i know that he's like i always thought of him as like a character actor i know

he's shown up in things that i've watched uh i think yeah if you i'm trying to i'm going back a ways because he feels to me like the kind of person who would have been in uh like a kind of an indie film in the 90s that you kind of like more than maybe even it deserves but maybe he's just been mostly in he was in bulwark remember that who can forget who can forget when um what's his name from shampoo warren baity decided to rap and uh and it changed a nation oh my god

bulwark right yeah you know what i was thinking of i was thinking of the um tim robinson not tim oh and tim robbins tim robbins oh yeah bob bob roberts i was bob roberts were you thinking of

Benny and June? I've never seen Benny and June. He was in that. Were you thinking of Flatliners?

No, but I believe my, like, some high school teacher I had, I believe, was an extra in Flatliners, so I don't know.

Were you thinking about the movie Diggstown, which he played Fitz in, which has come up on this show a lot more than you think?

That's a real thing? I thought you were just trying to get me off the line. No, I'm just reading his IMDb. Wasn't Diggstown the fake town that you and... Yes, it was. It was like your safety word with Jen if you were doing a phone interview live on the radio.

It was it was, I guess, hypothetically or is it hypothetically or theoretically? The plan was if if I found myself mired in an interview that was going real bad, Jen would jump in and say, we have a traffic emergency in Digstown. It was never deployed that. I remember it was never deployed, but we we made a lot out of it as like our kind of, you know, emergency plan.

Well, you understand then why my blood ran cold when.

you just asked me if i'd seen digs times i really thought like hey and this is how it ends this is getting something right now from uh the traffic folks uh explaining our listener suggestions from listener lindsey who says hi guys i saw this is how lindsey talks apparently uh i saw the tiny desk concert for this artist the artist is named sid sriram and i was entranced enjoy and the song I don't know anything about Sid Shriram, but I think the song is actually really good, Andrea. Listen to some of it. It's called Do the Dance, and the album is called Do the Dance. So that's how we're going to wrap things up this week. Thank you, everyone, for listening. We will be back here on Monday with more Imaginary Radio for you. Until then, have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

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