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I mean, bird watching, that's got to be creepy for birds. I mean, what are we doing? These birds are just hanging out. We ignore them most of the time. Suddenly, some, like, couple from Ohio is just obsessed with their bird. Bird's like, what? Me? You happy? Piss off. What do you want? I wouldn't be surprised if the bird bath was invented by some sort of bird pervert. I mean, some guy's in his kitchen just looking out oh yeah splash around in there bird

TBTL TBTL coming across the airwaves full of love through the sky it's embarrassing and it's gross but at least it's kind of funny

this thing turns out to be half as important as I figure it just might be I'd say that you're all in line for some important promotions and personal citations when this thing's over You have to be it so we don't see it. You have to live it or we won't forgive it. You have to inhabit it or leave it in the cabin.

Maybe this podcast is just too beautiful to live. Oh, yeah. Well, well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome to a Monday edition of TBT All, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

It is lastingly, psychologically horrific.

I've got a sticky button on my little soundboard here, and I knew it was going to come back to bite me at some point. It just did. But here we go, everyone. My name is Luke Burbank. Welcome to the program. Hey, me! This is the show that just might be too beautiful to live on a Monday where it is going to be warm here in Portland, Oregon, possibly touching 90 degrees.

Things are going to get hot. They're going to get funky. Somebody better open the window.

So, comedy from the Hollywood Broadcast Center, where I think that I am dealing with some mosquito bites. And I don't really know how, because all the windows in this apartment have screens. Maybe it was when I was up at the other house this weekend, working, climbing around through tall grass and such. But I'll tell you, I heard a story, a morning edition today, about bedbugs. And now, of course, I'm analyzing every little bump and welt and hoping it's not that. Even though I think I recently said on the show that I think that thing might be a little bit overstated, the bed bug thing. But anyway, here we are. It's episode 3,964 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. I'm going to focus on the task at hand, which is bringing you the following top stories. Apple has announced that they are finally going to treat us like adults. They know. They know what we're trying to type. They're going to treat us like ducking adults when we want to swear in text messages.

And you might be eating. Let's go.

Forget this virtual headset. This was the big announcement out of the Apple Summit last week. We'll talk about that. Also, the rest of the country is finally catching up to my sage-like wisdom when it comes to air travel. And a certain rude behavior that people engage in That we all need to see less of coming up So we'll talk about that Plus we'll talk to this guy The longest-journing co-bro of the show Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships He's Andrew Walsh And he's joining me right now Good morning, my friend

Good morning, Luke Sorry to talk business at the top of the show here Also, sorry that my microphone Did you hear that? No Oh, okay, maybe that's just on my end Boy, we're... You and I, we're the Sticky Button team over here. The Sticky Button Boys. That may be. He was the Wet Bandits first, the Sticky Button Boys second.

If you could have heard how many times I started the show, Andrew, without it being audible to anyone.

I wondered what was going on there. I thought it was on my end.

I was like, hello, good morning, and welcome. And then I looked down, and it's like this little amber light where it's mute. It's still illuminated. So then I hit it again, and it goes for a second. It unmutes. And I go, well, all right, hello, good morning. and then it's still muting. It's just not showing it on the light for some reason. Finally, after hacking away at it for what felt like an hour but was probably 12 seconds, finally got in mid-sentence.

I did wonder what was going on there, but I assumed it was a problem on my end and that we're going to have to start over. I'm glad we didn't, but the business at hand is this. Did you end up signing that legal paperwork that APM wanted us to sign? I did. I was okay with it but I got a little bit of news here this comes via Heidi in Minnesota I'm going to read you a text message that came in

I've got lots of news

Through the TBTL voicemail line, 206-414-TBTL. I got this text message. Brains on RadLibs? Did they copy your idea? Or does somebody, APM, just love doing MadLibs and they're suggesting it for all the shows? Those dirty dogs. Those, you know what they're doing?

You know what they're doing?

They're taking our ideas.

Because we're leaving, they're just going to go in and they're going to just pick the bones of this show clean for content and for fundraising ideas and for fun. I mean, I swear to God, if I hear that the slowdown is hitchhiking down the Mississippi River, I will lose my shit.

I have some bad news for you about the slowdown's relationship with APM these days. I don't think they're on the roster anymore. But did they consider hitchhiking down the Mississippi River? I will say this. Before they left, they did do their own version of Mad Libs as well. And that's what I'm mad about. All these shows biting our rhymes. Huh.

Is it possible that we just came up with a very common idea that other people had done before us? I mean, I want to tell you this.

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. I just killed the slowdown. I didn't mean to do it. I thought you said in the dark. The slowdown is alive and well and a fantastic show on American public media. $5, fine. Killing a show that's a going concern. I'm so sorry. For some reason, we always go with In the Dark. And my joke was about an In the Dark Mad Libs, which I think would be an interesting...

Oh, that is a good... You know what? That's a good spoof. Okay. That's a way better...

But as I said, I'm really embarrassed. My face is so hot right now.

I didn't understand you were joking, but I want to tell you that if you had said In the Dark, they have their own Mad Libs, I would be currently on the, I would be ruffling so hard. That's a very good joke. I want you to.

I've made many mistakes. No, the slowdown is still going strong in APM. And actually, I'm a big fan of that, and they should do a Mad Libs. But yeah, no, I didn't.

And I mean, honestly, I think that they're going to reach new heights when they decide to drive around the country in a Toyota Delicato.

Yes, reading, actually reading poetry, taking poetry to the streets. That actually would be kind of a cool idea to do that. Just another idea for you, American public media on our way out the door.

I mean, I guess we just have to we just have to, you know, consider impression the most sincere form of flattery. Exactly. Exactly. And boycott the upcoming Brains On shows in both Seattle and Portland. Out of principle, I'd like to see a lot of protesters there. Please, if you're a TBTL listener, turn out and turn up. We need you outside of those shows with signs protesting that they have stolen our Mad Lib idea.

Oh, my God. Throw Kool-Aid on Molly and Sandin. No, don't do that. I'm going to be seeing the Brains On gang, actually, when they're in town. I think that's next Sunday. Yeah. But, yeah, they have a show in the afternoon on Sunday.

Yeah, they're promoting. The one that's happening here in Portland at Rev Hall, they've got some kind of sweet deal going with OPB because they're promoting the live and tweet a lot of it. Nice. Nice. It's interesting the way that that – let me go from having a muted microphone to causing listeners to wish my microphone was still muted. by the specificity of what I'm talking about. The promotional schedule on OPB is a mystery to me. And the only reason that I think about it is because, of course, when we're doing Livewire, there will be times where I'm personally tired of the amount of promotion that's happening for the show that I work on on that radio station. It'll just be like a random – it won't even be like it's a show where you're having on particularly famous people. It just has to do with the inventory. And if sometimes you just It just so happens that the inventory They're not overwhelmed with other things To tell you about It'll just get into this rotation Where I literally will be like Okay, enough already Which is, of course, totally As the host of a show You're hoping to sell it out You're hoping to promote it as much as possible You should hope that they're talking about it Every 20 minutes But sometimes that happens And then sometimes Not a peep And I have no idea What sort of determines that But right now, I'll tell you Our friends from Brains On And they have just, you know, fallen back asswards into a ton of promotion on Oregon public broadcasting.

Yeah, saturation is good. I remember there was a time, I know that you worked with this fella a long time ago during your NPR era. And I know that your NPR era was really smooth, especially with all the executives involved.

Have you heard about my eras tour that I'm doing? Yeah. It's a sort of smaller affair. I wish Taylor Swift would have told me she was also going to call her tour eras.

this is angst luke's version um but uh i know that i know that your relationship with the executives at npr was sometimes fraught um i think it's safe i think it's fair to say that

and say yes but andrew in the good news department um i've got lots of news all of those people got fired after they got mad at me so i'm i'm gonna hold

whole new i got a whole fresh crop of execs there who i think hate me less well one of them was um also my boss at uh at kent in kent ohio yes and do you remember i don't know if you would know this because i don't think it was clearly before he was at the network level but he made kind of a name for himself nationally in public radio because of his treatise on public radio promotions and like the saturation level like he crunched all these numbers and every like all the stations were buying into this idea of like how many times a promo needs to run before it even begins to even think about being effective and the in the ears of a listener do you recall that there it wasn't like was it the rule it wasn't the rule of threes i'm trying to google here

but it was something about threes but i do know that it's a whole science and also well maybe it's more art than science because there's like you know gravity is something that you can study with science and you can predict it pretty i think pretty accurately i don't know if it's a science but it's certainly something that people have a lot of theories on because you know they're the people that think you got to do it a lot they're the people that think you have to say something or you have to pose a question some people say no one will listen to the show it's just an ad so that they know the show exists it's not actually driving people towards the content people rarely hear a promo on a monday for something happening on saturday and then like remember it mark their calendar and tune in it's more just like a way of saying hey we're over here which of course again how do i keep taking this to a more esoteric place but the the whole idea in the olden days of promos if we if we took it as a given that when you promote something for your program people are maybe not even going to tune into your program but it's still good uh for them to hear about your program that was in the days of the arbitron diary right That was where, like, you were just hoping that if they heard enough promos for your talk show, even if they weren't listening, when they got a little booklet in the mail where they were supposed to keep a record of what they listened to down to the 15 – I can't tell you where I was yesterday, Andrew. Like, even what city I was in. I can't imagine trying to, like, explain at 8.01 p.m. what radio station I was listening to from memory. But the idea was they might write you down accidentally and then you still win. But that's not even the system they use anymore. So it's like there's all these levels to it of, like, how important really is it?

I think, you know, you hear a lot of people. Maybe people just tell me this because they don't want to promote my show. This show, TBTL, is the show I'm talking about. And people will often say, like, well, cross promotion on podcasts doesn't really work. And I don't agree. I disagree with that. But I do think that it takes a lot of saturation. There are shows and I can't think of a specific example right away, but I know things like within the Levitard universe, for example. So that's my obsession. Right. And I listen to hours of Levitard a week, but they'll just hammer some cross promotion, you know, or you'll keep hearing about, you know, some side characters, other podcasts. And I'll hear that a hundred times and have no interest because there's so much Levitard. There's so much of the main juice to squeeze, you know, like I don't need that. But there have been times where after hearing that like a hundred times and then I run out of my main podcast, I'm like, you know what? Maybe I will check out that baseball thing that Mike Schur is doing. Like I have come to many podcasts via that model, but it does take a lot. I think you just have to really you just got to. And this is what I always say when I'm giving my TED talks about audience relations. You just got to beat the hell out of the audience with the promos. Just flog them, Luke. Right.

That's TEDxFontana, California. That's the one they let you do, right?

That is the one, yes.

We have people that are, like, trying to get on Livewire. And, like, this is when that, like, you know, a TED speech was, like, a real sort of resume builder. And it'd be like, you know, the producer at the time would be trying to sell me on someone who I would be maybe a little bit sort of so-so on. And they'd be, well, they have a TED speech. They did a TED talk. And then I would look it up, and it'd be like, Ted Cuema. Federal way.

Oh, interesting.

And I'd say that with peace and love to the home of Danny Trejo, Cuema, California. But just like, there's a lot of Ted's out there now. It ain't all, you know, whatever, the big stage. Now, the other thing, though, that really seems to work, I don't know why we're, you know what doesn't work? Starting your week of broadcasting with this conversation, which is 100% on me.

No, I was going to say, I don't think so. I don't know exactly what is going on right now. I don't think it's good, but I think it's mostly my fault.

i honestly do and i apologize uh but um uh you know what actually works on me as far as trying to cross promote podcasts is kind of a dirty trick it's when and maybe we need to work on this as we go forward um it's when you sort of hermit crab it so i start i hit play on this american life and what i hear is the latest show that serial productions is not just like you know I'm very attuned to win.

season of cereal comes out but I'm talking about some other project maybe even within the New York Times and like you hit play on one podcast and maybe they'll even have the host of that podcast say I really want to tell you about this show I'm so excited about you know who does this a fair amount 99% invisible I'm a big 99% invisible fan love the work of Roman Mars and the team over there and they'll do this thing where I'll think I'm getting me some 99% invisible but they'll be telling me about this other podcast that their colleagues are doing that they're really excited about and if i am far enough away from my phone possibly trapped under a refrigerator or something uh and i get into the show like i don't just you know i don't next it just on principle just on

the principle of having been lied to then i will often get that's the sticky wicket with that's

right where that's the that's the downside cost but the upside cost is huge because that's converted me over to listening to probably more more than any other tactic that's the one that's worked the most is i'm trying to listen to a thing that i already like i start listening to a thing they want me to hear and i start enjoying it and now i'm in yeah i i could i could see that but it

really depends on your relationship with that podcast and whether or not you are really looking forward to it and you hit play on it and then it's something else i could also see that being

a bit of a turnoff which is why we'd like to hand things over right now to our friends at brains on wouldn't that be the most insane setup if like that would be as our final like in order to get I don't know what, like in order to get our unpaid sick time from 8 p.m. They said, OK, but you have to do one show where you just start like it's TBTL. Then you hand it off to Brains on that.

If this whole thing had a point that we were leading up to handing this off, I would think that we are brilliant podcasters. Unfortunately, I just didn't have anything to say when I opened up my microphone.

And so I looked down at my phone and I had a text message from Heidi. And that's all that's all I know. okay let's get down to some actually important business on the show did you spend the weekend

clearing out your gmail inbox no i forgot about that until i saw it on your show sheet today i gotta sit down at some point and deal with that i just don't i didn't i had a relatively busy weekend hey you know where i went luke do you know where i went luke so i was hanging out with some friends on friday and one of them was our friend celine right aka prom queen and she's like oh i got a show in shoreline tomorrow and so this would be saturday night that she had a show in shoreline we're like where because you know we kind of live up near shoreline she's like daryl's tavern now daryl's tavern is a bar that i have passed in the car when genevieve and i moved to this area last year we passed it we pulled off of like 99 and drove around in the parking lot and said someday we will go there it's like this like brick midwestern looking building sort of with this classic sign that says daryl's tavern and it's kind of like it's kind of like a uh it's like a small little, well, it's a little dive bar, but I feel like it's a little rootin' tootin' dive bar, sort of, a little stage. Yeah, they've got a little stage, a little musical area. What's the word I'm looking for? Not a rootin' tootin' dive bar. Honky-tonk? A honky-tonk.

It's got a little honky-tonk vibe, yeah. Yeah, and if they haven't remodeled it since the last I was in there, which was now many years ago, that place really delivers. Like, it's one of those things, like, from the outside, and you're absolutely right, it looks like something that should be in, like, Kenosha, Wisconsin or something, or somewhere in Ohio. Like, it's very Midwest-appearing. And then the um like uh you but you know you go inside and then the inside the uh the carpet matches the drapes andrew like it just it delivers on what you hope it's going to be when you go inside based

on what it looks like on the outside in my memory yeah no it's look it's it's very clean inside um almost sterile i would say no i'm just relatively old-fashioned no i'm just joking i was going to try to make it sound like it was climate pledge arena or something uh no no it's yeah i don't think it's been remodeled in a while but like it's it's a great bar it's got a it's got kind of got a bar kind of in the center so you can sit around it almost like the stools almost 360 around the horseshoe bar in the middle um it's just a great small little stage it was like a good turnout it was a great show of course by prom queen obviously i'm a big fan but like it was fun to see and just like kind of a small a small full bar but not so full that i felt uncomfortable you know and then this little like an outside area so if i did start to feel a little claustrophobic in the crowd, as is my want, I could just go outside, you know? And it was a little pressure release there. It was a wonderful time. And also, this is just getting into the details of my life that...

Wait, I have a few more thoughts on public radio promo programming. Can we get back to that for a minute?

Like, as you know, Luke, we don't have, like, kind of a watering hole in our neighborhood akin to Teddy's in my old neighborhood, right? Which was just, like, a few blocks away, and we, you know, kind of got to know everybody there, and it was a great thing. there are a couple of places around here we go but it's a little bit more of a trek but honestly we're not close to daryl's you know we're we're many many blocks away but that's a direct shot on the old e-line

Oh, the E-Line. The E-Line that just goes up and down Aurora. Like, you just hop on that. Ten minutes later, you're in Daryl's heaven. I was telling everybody at the bar, like, all I got to do is get on the E-Line. The more I had to drink. Although, also, the first conversation I had stone sober was, we took the E-Line here. It's so easy to get there.

Yeah, that is super convenient. And, I mean, yeah, that's one thing about your neighborhood is, I bet you at one time, 20, 30 years ago, you had some, there were some real gems in your hood of that kind of local watering hole, unpretentious, you know, older gal, some sort of beehive working behind the counter. But that's just, you know, neighborhoods change and that's not something that you have. But honestly, like, yeah, once you're on that E-line, I mean, it's a hop, skip and a jump. Would you say it's 10 minutes, if that, 15?

Yeah, I think maybe it's like a 10 minute bus ride. And again, so I love, you know, we walk a lot of places. We take the bus places like there's just a certain freedom in that. And so, yeah, it just sort of felt like something that is, you know, maybe I don't know what a couple of miles away from me is really it feels like it's right outside my door if I can just hop on that bus.

The reason that I asked or I said if they haven't remodeled it is because this is something that I've seen too many times with really great classic bars where they're just sort of perfect for me and then somebody thinks we could maybe get the business really hopping if we tore out all of the cool old stuff and put in shitty slightly newer stuff and turned it into some kind of place to see people and be seen or something. And, of course, I speak of the Tattletail Lounge in L.A., which I was in love with. Now, talk about serendipity, Andrew. As we were talking about this and as I was thinking about it, there's another bar up by the house that I'm working on that it is a bar that I think used to be attached to a hotel where Elvis once stayed. And for many years, the hotel, which is, you know, a motel, really, kind of a fairly humble motel, had a big sign that said Elvis stayed here. And then he ordered food, I think, from this diner. It's called the Columbia Inn, and it has this great neon sign outside. And I had been there many, many years ago. And from the outside, it just looks like the quintessential 1950s or 60s kind of cool diner with a bar in the back. It's so perfect. But I went there with my dad, I don't know, some months ago because we were working on the house and we wanted to get some dinner. and they had quote-unquote remodeled the inside and it was just i mean i i almost couldn't even enjoy my grilled cheese sandwich because it was so i mean i i cannot describe to you how badly they effed up the inside of this place like every kind of uh you know contractor grade finish that you could do of bad taste and bad like the it would be better if they had just taken all the walls down like my current house i'm working on up there and then just left it like that at least it would have been interesting at least it would have been industrial they just ruined it and yet the outside this looks amazing still the outside just looks like exactly the place you want to go so anyway as i'm talking to you this is the serendipity you know what that's like though

can i just say this please that is exact i'm interrupting but i promise you it advances the conversation going into a bar that looks amazing on the outside but then is bland on the inside because of renovation it's like hitting play on a podcast that you think you're going to enjoy because it's one of your favorite podcasts but then you hit play and it turns out it's a different

podcast inside that podcast which is why i'd like to tell you about a show called spectacular that we are now going to be handing off to i don't know who's hosting it anymore but uh we're still probably kicking around the network somewhere yes okay so while we're talking about this i get a text from my good friend one of my dearest friends in life my buddy cotter aka the colonel and he and his family live in wyoming um and uh they are moving and he said uh i'm packing up and as usual this is literally andrew as of two minutes ago he says i'm packing up and as usual i'm finding some gems do you want this and it's a koozie from roger's exciting tell 2009 serving you for 45 years and he's like do you want me to mail this to you and the answer is yes absolutely i have a lot of thoughts on koozies by the way i was gonna say do you kooze bro well do you even kooze bro i didn't because a i'm not a huge beer guy but so becca's um you know uh brother and his wife are um super fun and they um they have they have a house with a swimming pool that they bought and they've been working on and fixing up it's really fun to go over there but they are people who tend to like like he's a real kind of he just loves all kinds of different beers beer is sort of his go-to and uh i think tiffany will like have a a high noon or something point being they consume things out of cans

And they always have a koozie And like it was like last summer or something They were like do you want one of these And I was like I guess And then we were like on a boat or something I think And I spent the rest of that afternoon Having you know probably one to five hard alcohol canned drinks You know high noons or something And marveling at how much better it was to insulate them And keep them cool Like part of why I've never I typically wouldn't finish a can of beer Is because by the time you know I'm halfway through it It's warm and it's kind of unappealing. Like there is a real functionality to the koozie that, believe it or not, I didn't really get into until about 46 years into life.

Is that why – when did you have your conversion to koozie culture?

Last summer. And by conversion, I just mean if offered one, I will use it. Right, right, right. Like I never even understood the utility of it. Like it literally never even occurred to me that its purpose was to keep the drink colder for longer. Like that had not entered my brain as a thought.

i remember people using them as kids um i didn't use them most of my life i was thinking about a listener priscilla who made i think it was priscilla right who made tbtl beer koozies and brought them and i think handed them out maybe at the tbtl live at sea show or something along those lines yeah um i don't know if i got all those details right uh and i love those those are treasured i don't use them very often but one thing i will say is growing up i'm pretty sure And this could just be my family was wrong But I thought in Ohio we called them beer cozies Have you ever heard that? Cozies I probably

Again, I'm only recently entering this space So I'm not going to hold myself up as any kind of expert on the terminology

Yeah, anyway, I thought they were beer cozies I don't usually go in for them either I do have a drawer full of them Because some of them are the TBTL ones And then it's kind of a good sort of silly little gift to give somebody you know so i feel like i have an oh and uh i believe somebody got married and handed out beer koozies uh and so i have some of those anyway i'm running out of steam there

save me the last thing i want to say andrew because i am just i like the matryshka doll of of unnecessary information that literally no one including you even got up wondering about today continues you keep thinking he's down to the smallest doll and i'm like nope open it up there's a smaller one and even a less interesting one inside of that and here it is i'm looking at this koozie or cozy from the tattletale 2009 because roger would always he put out like a coffee cup every year or a uh a cozy a koozie or a keychain and it was interesting as it went on as the years went on i could tell that i don't think he was in any way ever hurting for money that place the tattletale was packed and by the way that's the other thing about take buying if you buy a dive bar you better be a customer of that dive bar for a minimum of five years before you buy it because then you will understand what the rhythms of the place are what people like about it what people don't want it to become the worst thing you can do is swoop in find some kind of weird funky little dive bar with its you know crew of regulars buy it and then try to fix it up or whatever you will alienate everyone um then that's what happened to the tattletale like roger sold it because he was like a thousand years old and then somebody tried to turn it into a like a sports bar where they just ripped i mean and it was so beautiful in there too like they ripped out everything and just put in like the worst like gray linoleum like faux marble shit it was just terrible but what i noticed roger doing towards the end was he would put out something like a coffee mug that would say the tattletale 2000 2005 to 2009 and it was so if he didn't get rid of all the coffee cups in 2005 he could still give them out in 2006 he started putting a range

oh you mean he was oh so he was pushing that that end date further and further because that also

sounds like an obit by the way it's not the no yeah right it does i don't mean the end date what i mean is he used to every year give out a tchotchke that would have that year on it so it'd be like a coffee cup that said like you know tattletale 2001 or it'd be a it'd be a variety of like some kind of thing that you would get that would commemorate that year that you were going to the bar when i tell you this was a whole culture it really was but so it'd be like this is the coffee cup from 2008 or something but eventually he started putting not one year on it but he put a range of years like 2008 2011 i so that he could keep giving it out not celebrating the lifetime of the bar of no and not even celebrating one year in time he was like this gives me a three-year window to give this coffee cup out or this koozie out or this keychain out i remember getting a keychain it was the weirdest thing it literally had like a four-year range i guess it was like we're just in case at any point in a four-year range of time i want to give you this keychain it will it won't feel outdated it won't feel like it's expired roger's tattletale 2002 ish till whenever ish we run out of these keychains and then we'll make some new ones or something so anyway okay uh let's take a quick break and then when we come back uh we'll get to these top stories oh shit i didn't get through all of the koozies in my drawer are you let me ask you this are you a are you a koozie

man or a no that's what i mean i like i have a bunch of them and they all have some sort of meaning to me, so I don't want to get rid of them, but I don't really use them that much. But do you, because you're a Coors Light man? These days, we've become a Coors Light family, but actually, it's kind of related to what we're talking about. It's because it's hard to find 12-ounce cans of Miller Lite, which I would prefer, but they're all 16-ouncers. They're all tall boys, and I don't mind a tall boy. I used to drink them all the time, but honestly, kind of like what you're saying, like, I don't want the tall boy. I want 12-ounce cans, and I'll drink a bunch of them. This isn't about – don't worry, guys. This isn't about me showing any kind of restraint, for God's sake. Jesus Christ. Who do you think you're talking to here? I am. It's just that I don't know. Yeah, the bottom of the tall boy. Again, not that I'm nursing this over a period of hours. I don't know. I just, like, I'd rather have 12-ounce cans, so Coors Light it is. And you would think that maybe a koozie would solve that for me.

have you tried have you is it i don't know why i'm belaboring this but have you have you have a bunch of them have you slid one onto a can and then just thought like no this is just one more step than i want to deal with is that you're just shotgunning your beers it didn't provide the practical solution that they're intended to for you when you have tried

it you know what i mean i hadn't given it a lot of thought but if we're here if we're parking here for a little bit before we go to the break i'll just go get a beer put a koozie in let's

Now that's some Monday morning programming for you

Usually I'm done drinking by about 8am I take a little break and then I come back around 11

No, you know, I don't think I like the tactile experience of it Okay, sure, that's an answer That is an answer There's something very kind of, what's the word, neoprene About the feeling Like, you know, your beer has a wetsuit on

Yeah, and you have the different kinds, right? When I was growing up in the 80s, I felt like everything was, like, really brightly colored, like, day glow and, like, really foamy. Like, those things would be, like, really – maybe it's because, like, I mostly saw them on boats or something. And now, of course, the modern koozie, as most people know, is a much more thinner affair, right? Right. But actually, you mentioned those keychains. Were Roger's keychains also the kind that float? Because I'll tell you this. No, but that would be pretty dope. The keychains that float and a big, thick koozie, to me, I can see either one of those, and I will be transported to some sort of, like, vacation lifestyle. You know what I mean?

It will be neon of some kind, some sort of neon color.

It just means that we're, you know, on a weekend on my uncle's boat or something like that. Both of those were, like, seeing a key ring is not usually very interesting to a kid, but you put a little floaty device on that, and that means we're going out on the boat. Those keys are fun keys. But, yeah, I don't know. I just think that, like, I get in the mood for something, and sometimes I will be at the grocery store. I'll be like, you know what? I'm just – I want to drink it out of a bottle. Like, I hate drinking out of a beer can at a bar. I don't know why.

Oh, interesting. I'm with you. I've never thought about it that much, but you're absolutely right. If I'm getting a beer at a bar, it needs to be a bottle. A lot of B's there, dude.

I will drink an IPA out of a pine glass at a bar, but if it's a lighter beer, I don't care if it's cheaper if it's on tap. I don't want it. i want it out of a bottle if you have miller light on tap and i prefer that but you have i don't know uh miller high life in a bottle i'll take the bottle because i like to drink it so i'm weirdly particular about those things and then yeah i don't know like and also when you when you wrap it up luke you just lose a lot of feeling uh-huh well i am i'm gonna go right past that that sounds

like a luke joke i love it i love it what are you talking about koozies you had how many morning beers did you have today that's a very racy joke from you i i pulled that might have been last night's beer talk i pulled oh you're a rolling oh wait okay i this this is just because we i think we've pretty much already declared uh that this show is totaled um you know what you know what our friends at brains on won't be copying today's show you know what that's what we have to do we We have to start creating content that's so regrettable that there's no way that any of these shows at 8 p.m. are going to try to steal them from us when we're gone. I thought of you this weekend because I pulled what I think of as maybe the most quintessential Andrew. And I'm not even kidding. This is one of the this is one of the things that I most strongly associate with you with hanging out with you. And we're in the kitchen environment. What do you think it was? Actually, you know what? Let's do this. Let's take a break.

OK, so we're already happy to lay that on me again so I can think about it during.

break yes i'll remind you okay i did something in my kitchen this weekend a very small thing and it made me think of you because it's something that i've only ever seen you do in the kitchen environment okay i'm gonna think about this so uh we will get to that uh on the other side of this break now a message from the slowdown hello and welcome to top story all right um so i was in my kitchen this weekend puttering around and i did something that i thought oh my gosh this is totally an andrew thing and it totally makes sense and like i might start doing this now and this is

something that you know that i do or oh i've watched you do it many many times oh i know i know i'm gonna say i'm gonna give you my i'm gonna give you my oli what i thought it was gonna be at first was you standing uh over your kitchen sink looking at a window just eating cold cuts in a in a bit of a daze because that i do that a lot maybe not so much with the cold cuts but do you have a window over your sink i don't think i actually don't the layout of bummer it

kind of is i mean i will say this the the nice thing about this apartment is that it has a lot of windows so even if i'm standing it's got an island with the sink in it which is kind of oh a little bit different so when you're standing if you're standing over the sink you're looking into the living room and there are certainly very large windows across the room that you can stare i can stare at the trees and the sky and stuff so i'm not hurting for um the outside observing the outside world but it's not that kind of classic like kitchen window where you're standing at the sink and you're the windows right there and you're like staring at your neighbor's house or something my dad i think i've told you this before there used to be a moment every morning i'd be getting ready for school or something my dad would be standing over the sink and our house growing up our little rental house on 77th was like no joke 15 feet from the neighbor's house if that like they were shockingly close together and you could just see basically the side of the stucco of our neighbor's house my dad would sit there drinking his coffee and staring out that window and i think

just contemplating do i leave and never come back like it was do i start smoking so i can go out and

get a pack of cigarettes it was like a thousand yard stare of him i think it was somehow it was him just transporting himself to his only moment of privacy or solitude in his life ever with seven children and being married to my mom and being like the pastor of this like failing church he would stare out that window in the morning while he was having his coffee and it was just like he his his body was the lights were on but nobody was home man he was he was somewhere else

just uh in some sort of world of gabagool is he eating cold out is eating cold cuts in this

scenario is he no he's having black coffee or actually no he's having a latte he's probably having a latte that he made right yeah um you know so okay so here it is not it's not eating

cold cuts let me set up middle distance let me set up my next guess because i think i might be right about this but also this is the type of thing that i do in my life if i'm right about this that i did not ever realize i did until you pointed it out i think you're on the right page And now I think of you when I do this every time. So this has happened, and this might happen again in a few weeks when you and I are going to be in an Airbnb. It was a thought I had. So that we can do the TBTL-a-thon here at the beginning of July, July 3rd. Tune in. Don't miss out. But when we are in those situations where you and I are kind of living together in some sort of space for a few days or what have you, you have a tendency to point out things that I don't even realize about myself it's uncanny it's somewhat it can be somewhat disturbing but it's also interesting it's an interesting window onto some of my quirks and one of the things you pointed out I believe when you and I were in an undisclosed location which you might have disclosed recently as LaConner but you said why do you keep on tearing paper towels in half I keep finding these paper towels torn in half and one of them is stuck inside the paper towel roll and i never realized i did that but i'm first of all i'm often like using a small piece of a paper towel to blow my nose which you shouldn't do honestly you should use tissues or

what have you i think that's part of it nose blowing but you don't need the whole damn thing

so you like tear it in half and you put the other half inside the towel roll for the next time

andrew this is exactly what happened you know my allergies have been kicking this morning I'm not even kidding I literally laid out My tiny allergy medicine Like some sort of fiend And I stared I strongly considered Taking two of them because Yesterday I took one and by I was up working on the other house and By the time it was like 4 p.m. My whole head was on fire It was like having some kind of histamine reaction And I was like I should have taken two of those Even though it does say only take one every 24 hours Maybe I need to get a prescription strength one.

I wonder if. that would be the solution there yeah but if i take two isn't that probably just prescription

strength at that point you know i don't know it's funny how i'm so careless with my health in so many ways but yet there's something about like well those specific pills you hit on this last week when this came up the idea of it being a 24-hour pill makes it seem like if i mess around with this i'm locked into something for a long time it seems like a severe sort of situation right like so i would advise you don't be waiting you don't want to be waiting to come down off of your bad zyrtec is that what it is zyrtec i was gonna look it up what i think it's generic zyrtec

it's like you know it's it's like kroger's allergy medicine compared to zyrtec you know it's because only the best for my system anyway because my i've had a runny nose and things like that from the allergies this weekend the other problem is i bought some for a while i was just i don't know why but i think it was because i was going and doing my weird basketball program at the gym i would be coming there was a period of a few months where i was trying to get up at like five in the morning and i'd be coming home and i would need something for the house and it'd be like still like 6 30 or something and pretty much the only thing really open was the 7 11 by my house which i know 7 11s in japan are like apparently kind of awesome and they have a wide range of really interesting food and stuff that's not what's going on in the 7 11s in portland oregon

and in fact they have weird that no no offense i won't say weird that was such an interesting contextual point who were you making that contextual point for do most people i wanted

i wanted people to know these i wanted folks to know that not all 7-elevens suck ass but the one by my house kind of does that's all actually you know i just watched a thing on tiktok the other day where this i really uh love this um father son duo where the the father who i think might have originally been from japan is this like a really incredible chef and his son is this guy in his 20s and what he'll do a lot of times is like give his dad some kind of very forgettable piece of food like let's say a um i don't know a mcdonald's big mac or something but but actually even more down market than that he'll say make this fancy and then his dad will do this incredible cooking project where he'll take whatever the thing is and he'll sort of like he'll blend up the bun and he'll add some stuff to it and he'll like repurpose it and he'll take the meat and he'll spice it up and chop it up he'll end up with something that like you would you'd pay forty dollars at a restaurant for made from these components of very kind of so anyway i follow those guys on tiktok and the dad was rating things from a 7-eleven in japan um and so i think i have it on my brain is why i wanted to clarify that 7-eleven japan are apparently good sugoy shout out to jojo and our other listeners in japan anyway i was buying things for a while from this 7-Eleven and the problem is 7-Eleven they sell just about anything you might need but they just sell the worst version of it like the least functional version if that makes sense so I needed paper towels one day and I bought a thing of paper towels and then I put them in a drawer and then I later in that same day I think I went to a real store and got some real paper towels but I've had this like one roll of 7-Eleven paper towels and then the other day I finally ran out so I put it on the paper towel holder and it is exactly as I expected it doesn't none of the plot like none of the pieces tear cleanly and so i went to blow my nose i went to tear a piece i got like four pieces or some something and so i was like there's a version of me that is very wasteful and has a really large carbon footprint that's just called most of the time but i in this moment i thought there's no reason for me to use this much of this paper towel material to just blow my nose so i sort of ripped it and then blew my nose with the one piece and then there i had a loose couple of pieces and i just thought tuck tuck this will this will come in handy tuck tuck and so i folded it up i tucked it right in the top and this is this is andrew's move you fold it up and then at the top of the paper towel if you're using one of those paper towel holders that's kind of vertical so it's like a little rod in the paper towel uh the roll of paper towel sits on it you just tuck it right in the area between the cardboard and the rod and i did that and then i used it later andrew and i when i tell you that i feel like i'm the new greta thunberg i am not lying i have never where's your parade i could feel my carbon footprint disappearing like now i'm gonna fly even more exactly like and i can and i'm allowed to because just the simple act of like not using more of that paper towel situation than i really needed and then kind of

saving some of it and then using it later probably what happened was so bubble's favorite thing when i'm doing dishes or running any water in the sink is she loves to wait until the second that i'm done she's a little bit too scared to deal with active water she's fascinated with it but she won't jump in the sink if the faucet's going but as soon as i turn the faucet off she then jumps in the sink and then jumps all over everything else therefore getting wet paw prints on everything which is fun and so then i have to come

right behind her with some um you know uh countertop spray and clean it all up and i think i pulled those extra paper towels out used it and i i'm not overstating when i say the feeling of efficiency that i had was really profound like more profound than it should have been like the feeling of like hey normally i would have just thrown this in the garbage i would have blown my nose into the entire situation and then balled it up and thrown in the garbage but instead i was able to blow my nose and clean this counter with the same amount of paper towel material

it really made me feel good i don't even again i didn't even realize i did this until you pointed it out and so i don't know that i'm thinking specifically environmentally i mean frankly you know i mean i grew up using tons of paper towels like shop vacs and paper towels were my dad's two favorite weapons just just navigating the world right and so and we did and we definitely did not think about the environmental consequences of our of our actions as much back then and then as an adult i kind of brought a lot of that with me and it wasn't until maybe a few years ago maybe doing you know the spotless show with hannah and really thinking about like how much paper towels how many paper towels i use and so i have really now acquired quite a pretty big massive like kitchen towels you know just like terrycloth kitchen towels or whatever ikea that that type of thing um and so i'm going through those a lot now those still have to be washed there are implications therein as well but i use those a lot more for wiping things down but even after you like wipe down a counter like last night i made a little made some barbecue chicken on the grill right and i'm constantly cleaning as i go and i wipe down the counter with those things but always like when you're done when you're leaving the kitchen for the evening or for a period of time You need to spray that down with some all-purpose spray, and I rely on a paper towel to do the final touches on that, right? Like, that's the kind of disinfecting level. And I always use paper towels for that, but you don't always need the whole paper towel for that, especially depending. So it can be for nose blowing. It can be for whatever. Now, I have a question for you. Do you think it's de classe that I don't go in for paper towel holders? You mentioned about, like, the paper towel being on a vertical paper towel holder. What about no paper towel holder? Or what about just having a roll of paper towels that you keep in the cupboard, but then you move it around?

Sure, put your mattress on the floor. I can't judge you. Live your life. I'll tell you what I'm not into. This is a generational thing. Sure, use a tapestry as a door. Whatever. Yeah, exactly. I think this is very generational, okay? But to answer your question, whatever makes you happy and whatever works for you. But no, I was going to say something that I actually think is – I don't know if we're going to get to the top stories today, but we are going to get deeper in paper towel talk. I think there was a weird generational shift from the horizontal paper towel mount with those two, you know, kind of like little kind of brackets that you could – that would have enough tension that you could put the paper towel, you know, roll in there and you could pop them apart. Like hanging underneath the covers. Hanging under a cabinet. I think the 80s and even the 90s were – it was real heady times for hanging your paper towel roll underneath a countertop of some way. and then in the early 2000s we said you know what we can we can have this bad boy vertical on the countertop we can sit it like you know like it was it was a paradigm shift unlike almost any i would say the internet and realizing that we could actually have paper towel rolls vertical were the two big things that happened in the 90s for a lot of people because now i feel like it's unusual for me to go into a home of somebody like of my generation and see if they do have a paper towel holder that it's one of those undermount kind of ones we're all it's all

vertical we've gone vertical as a generation we've gone vertical folks okay i could use your advice on something here luke and um this might be perfect for you there might be a listener who can help i don't know if this is solvable but i think you'll at least understand where i'm coming from here you know how i got this thing going on called a midlife crisis where in many ways i could have cling to i think i think of it more as a mild life crisis it's the best it's the best

expression of that it just involves more darts well that is true i'm not buying i'm not buying like sports cards i'm not buying a convertible you're not trying to date a 20 year old like i feel like it's it's manifesting in the most healthy way you are because you're right because

what i'm looking for here is not a convertible i am looking for a laundry basket so i mild life crisis very much mild that's a show title yeah actually i need to write that down as i talk here um because do you even koozie bro got me nervous about whether or not like i didn't even want to Look up koozie in the online slang dictionary because I was like, but I was going to say I do have a fascination with sort of sort of objects of my youth of a certain period. They give me a feeling, you know, like I have my I'm looking at my CD collection right here. I got my cassette. whatever. Vives and I, as I think I mentioned, got a new washer and dryer recently. We're able to kind of set up our little laundry room area in a way that we like. Hello, CD listeners. But we have plastic, you know, like a kind of old school plastic laundry basket, but it's like from the 90s and it's got that sort of curve in it so you can kind of carry it against your hip or whatever and the plastic is a little bit thicker than I want. And also, it's old. Like, we got it in 2001 or something we've just been using it ever since or maybe Genevieve brought it from her college days I don't know how we got this laundry basket but I was thinking oh it would be nice to get a new laundry basket but I want one that sort of like I don't know man I want it to be sort of a retro style plastic laundry basket that has just like subtly that will remind me maybe of the 70s or 80s but it's really kind of hard to find those like any plastic laundry baskets are going to be like kind of like too like kind of big and like zero design to them at all and now laundry baskets are really cloth affairs really I get a bunch of like sort of like suggestions for hamper style laundry baskets and things that are you know like much more modern and honestly nice I should probably get a nice white linen one or something but I kind of don't want to I was like if I could find like kind of a and I'm using this in heavy scare quotes here but like kind of a old like housewife style

I'm looking at a vintage rubbermaid laundry basket, Harvest Gold. Let me see that. Can you email or text me that? It's on eBay. I'm going to text it to you because you know my computer has problems over here. But I know exactly what you're talking about.

But it has to be actually vintage, though, huh? You don't think I can just find a new one that sort of looks?

You know, I don't know. I mean, this is an extremely quick internet search by me. But you're right. It's like over time, the one thing was they got more ergonomic. You're right. they got that sort of like that indentation so you could have it on your hip and then also they got like somebody actually pretty smart was like looked at it and said how do we make this more functional yeah yeah and then you're right then it's sort of it the next evolution is into something that's maybe more cloth or you know but but this one that i'm saying i just sent you a picture of that i grew up with yeah that was just no frills that was a rectangle yellow color like like in a hospital maybe right and like you know just a little weird kind of um bump that indicated this is where the handhold is but there's nothing different about it it's just letting you know hey if you like to hold this by the ends this is where you could do that yeah as opposed to the newer ones where there's like actually a difference in the material and something that's kind of better for your hands to sort of get purchase on yeah i think you know this i think this is

literally the uh basket i grew up with as well i think it's a basket every person who did any

kind of laundry in the 80s we might have had a blue one a faded blue one that's what that's the

one thing i was going to say i know i'm being very picky here but i kind of don't want to go back to this color if possible so anyway luke i don't know what you're doing with the rest of your afternoon but if you could just sort of look into this for me oh here's a 60 for a vintage round rubbermaid laundry basket wow getting up there you know um because i were just

completely abandoning the top stories today i can just keep uh riffing here and and reporting back on my weekend and thoughts that i had which was uh becca and i went to a going away party for somebody over the weekend a friend of hers and it happened to be the event happened to be happening at an unbelievably beautiful home in lake oswego like a many multi-millions of dollars of home like one of the fanciest homes i've been in in a long time and people who hosted were so nice everybody there was so nice but the couple that was moving who i get the sense also they're moving to spain but not before they have to go to australia for a while because that's where the husband's business is based um i got the sense that everybody there pretty much except us was pretty well healed and um the the husband was talking about uh the the wife his wife um being just like really dialed into facebook marketplace and selling all of their stuff and he was saying i would be like somebody will just show up and be like i'm here for the laundry basket or whatever like eight dollars and he's like huh really and i was like i might get into that like it never occurs to me that like so i'm in this position now where i had went up to bellingham and i got all this stuff that i had and brought it down and now it's in the house that i'm working on but the problem is it's still a construction area it's just like covered in plastic but it's still getting like dust on it and stuff and i just thought like it never occurs to me when i have something i need to get rid of that there might be a resale value to it and not only is that good for just less stuff in the world but like i can there i was also watching some oh you know i was watching a tiktok video over the weekend where these teenagers who are doing a resale business like bought an old like barbecue smoker kind of like

of those traders but like less fancy and it was all rusty and stuff and then they just like were taking you through the process of sanding it down and spray painting it and making it all nice and then selling it to someone for a hundred bucks and they were so stoked and they had made like $80 on this project and I was like that is actually kind of fun it's almost I don't want to say gambling but there's a certain part of that that stimulates the part of my brain that likes this idea that like hey I have something or even if I was out at a garage sale and I saw something that i knew i saw somebody else on tiktok this weekend who was out quote unquote thrifting and they just found this taylor swift tour t-shirt from like 10 years ago which was a dollar at the goodwill and it's selling online for 200 because that's where we're at with taylor swift right now and i was like that's sort of gambling like you're going out you're putting you know some money in the machine if you will and you're hoping you get three cherries like you're wandering around this goodwill that the money is your time really you're investing your time and if you find this taylor swift t-shirt you just made 200 like i was like that kind of appeals to me as a thing and maybe i should start looking at oh another thing was when i was doing this tv story in california recently i was uh talking to this woman who had this very beautiful home and i think also again somebody who was sort of um financially in a pretty privileged position but her garage was full of all this like kids toys that were like little kitchen sets and stuff like yeah they were kind of vintage and i was like oh man that's amazing was that yours when you were a little girl and she was like no actually i just resell these like when i was putting my kids through college i didn't have a lot of money and so i was like i was a teacher and i said i have to figure out how to make money so i dialed in on these certain kinds of kids toys that i knew i could find and i knew i could resell them on ebay and this is she still does it now probably mostly for fun but i was like wow that's an interesting lane like knowing figuring out this kind of way to to identify something that people want but don't know where to find it and then you find it and then you sell it i mean the problem for me is there are people i still owe t-shirts from the early tbtlathons yeah so me packaging up these kids kitchen toys and sending them out that might be where this whole plan really falls apart but i do think there's something intriguing about that idea of of flipping things and also of like going through you know if you're moving and you're trying to kind of downsize or trying to like instead of just i mean i guess you could also donate it to the goodwill and maybe that's also helpful because other people could get it for even cheaper but like this idea that there might still be some value in these things so they don't need to be

necessarily just like thrown out is interesting to me i just sent you the longest hyperlink ever created what is with ebay i think i found my basket i sent it to you it just is like it the link just looks like absolute garbage i know that this is not interesting uh do you bitly much jeez louise but anyway check out this laundry basket yes dear listeners we are now at the stage of the show where andrew just looks for laundry baskets online this guy is a little he's more square than rectangle, which would really serve my purpose. Are you getting that? Is that sound coming down the line? Yeah, I did hear the boom, boom.

That's me trying to click on this link. Now we're at the point, listeners, where I'm just trying to click on a link that Andrew sent me, and it won't... It's not working, huh? Doesn't like it. But I can see the picture.

I can see enough of it. It's a little, it's like baby blue, 80s era square, and the size will fit in the corner that I need it to fit in better. I think I found only $25. But how much is it? A steal at $25.

Is that buy it now, $25?

I believe so. Let me see. If I click buy it now, what does it say? Or I can just – I guess I could make an offer. I hate doing that, though, although that's kind of exactly – you probably would like the thrill of making an offer, right?

I just had to buy something on eBay yesterday, which we should get to the emails. But I have these little, like, Google Nest cameras out at the other house. And the way they work, these ones are battery-powered, so you've got to charge them up. But then they stay charged for, like, a couple months, and they're like a little orb, and they only work when they're attached to this little mounting circle that's magnetized. Yeah, I can—oh, they only work then, though, huh? They only work when they're attached to that thing.

Huh.

So you—excuse me. So, like, you can, you know, you can charge it, but you can't just carry these things around. If they were attached to the magnet, you could. like if you had the whole unit the thing that's mounted on the outside of your house and then you pop the orb onto it just like magnetically attaches and the thing that's cool is you can rotate the camera all over this is like it's almost like a ball and joint kind of situation in other words it fits into this little bracket but then it can you could spin it around all kinds of directions if you wanted to have a different angle or whatever but it only works with that thing and yesterday i was so they're working on the west side of this house now and they're putting this whole new wall up and it's pretty crazy and i really just like to get to because i'm not up there all the time i like to get

to just see the progress like it just makes me excited so I spent a decent portion of yesterday out in this like down this hill from my house in these like tall grass which again may have been when I got these bites that are all over my body now nailing in this like tripod of wood that I made so that I could mount the camera to it so that I could like check in and see how the progress going just because it's fun for me and somehow in that process while i was taking the the camera down there the little like google nest camera and the thing that it fits into i guess i dropped it in the field it's totally missing i spent like i was like uncle billy from it's a wonderful life i know that doesn't really track with you andrew but i was wandering around that house for and i want to point out i was not drinking this was not a like a situation where i was like out of my head i was wandering around the house for over an hour trying to find this dumb white magnetized bracket that mounts onto the thing that you then pop the camera onto and it was nowhere to be found and like it's not a big house so i think it must have slipped out of my pocket actually when i was butt dialing you know i butt dialed you like eight times yesterday one of those butt dials was because i had the camera thing in my pocket of my jean or my my shorts because i was trying to carry a bunch of stuff i think somehow in the process of trying to pull the phone out and stop dialing you i somehow like lost this mounting bracket so they don't sell a replacement google's not dumb they're like would you like to buy an entire new camera setup what the hell but there's some person on ebay who's got a bunch of them so i just had to buy another one on ebay and they're sending it to me just the like mounting thing so that i can have my little camera setup well i have an update here

because you're right we do have to go to emails now but um uh boy do i have an update for you so this this basket i couldn't believe what a steal it is at 25 i'm in love with this basket now okay but i'm like do i just buy it now that's usually my move like i don't like to get into the whole like you know like just just buy it now make it easy right but i'm like well i should at least try so they're listing it at 25 so i made an offer just a moment ago at 20 ebay again this isn't a place that i spend a lot of time so this is kind of a little novel to me um so i make it it's it's i'm now at the page that says review your offer your offer twenty dollars shipping 57.93 standard ups ground estimated uh between june 16th and june 20th total would be 77.93 Do you think my relationship could withstand me buying an $80 laundry basket, Luke? Let me answer that for you. No.

But did you check where it's being mailed from? Because is it possible it's the International Space Station?

I do wonder about that. Because it's actually a deal. Yeah. So anyway, I think you know what this has taught me. We are in the heart of garage sale season again. I got to get my butt out there. I got to start waking up a little bit earlier on Saturdays. That's the fun of it. Getting out there, keeping my eyes peeled, and then getting some more VHS tapes for my ongoing project.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man. It's not from a female.

All right, email or V-mail. We were stumbling around last week trying to... Doesn't sound like us. I'm sorry. We were on point last week talking about Snoopy, and more specifically, Snoopy's brother, Spike. I think we had to remind ourselves of his name or his origin story or something. Spike being the guy, the dog with the mustache and the cowboyish hat or whatever. One listener could not believe that we didn't know Spike's name.

Hey, Luke and Andrew. I can't believe you don't know Snoopy's family tree. He has a dad named Baxter, a mom named Missy, and then his brothers and sisters are Spike, Andy, Olaf, Marbles, and Belle. Spike is obviously the one who lives in the desert. He has two other siblings that I think were only in the comic strip like once, Molly and Rover. Oh, yeah, Molly and Rover. And, of course, he came from the Daisy Hill Puppy Farm. His original owner was a little girl named Lila, but they lived in an apartment, so Lila had to bring Snoopy back to Daisy Hill Puppy Farm, and that's where Charlie Brown got him. He did fly his doghouse as the World War I or II flying ace. I can't remember, but the name of the doghouse when it turned into a plane was the Southwest Camel.

Yes.

So if you want to know any other facts about Snoopy or the VX, you can just call me.

I don't know who that person is, but I will be calling you. Why was it called the Sopwith Camel? I think Sopwith is an airplane, right?

Well, he would always battle the Red Baron. I remember that. So the Sopwith Camel's got to be a reference to maybe an allied plane or something that we were using. I mean, I don't want to provoke this listener because that's an awesome message. But what I'm wondering – and by provoke, I mean just like cause them to have to call back and give us another three-minute litany. But is that all OG Charles Schultz canon or is that fanfic?

No, that sounds like OG because the listener said that like – Some of it goes back to like the earliest comic strips.

I mean I've been to the Charles Schultz Museum in Santa Rosa. I've walked the halls. I've interviewed his wife. I've talked I've spent a fair I mean I didn't remember who Spike was so I guess that really takes the air out of my argument but like I I feel like I didn't know any of that stuff that's so much more backstory yeah then I then then I was aware of and like I guess it's like I it doesn't seem like Charles Schultz had time for that kind of bullshit what that's all that was all he did no but he was big on drawing Snoopy and he was big on like drawing peanuts and being you know the brains behind this operation and also the the artist behind it but do you but he was like when did he do all that backstory was it like before he drew the first okay i do want this person to call back will you please call back and explain i'm not questioning i'm i mean i'm not i'm not i'm not suspicious of this i'm interested in this which is when did all that backstory come out and was that did it was it slowly unspooled during the cartoon or during the comic over the years

i think that's what they're sort of learned that stuff because i mean how long did that run i mean you're talking about a daily comic that ran 60 years like of course there's tons of stories

there's i mean that's an amazing story also that that listener must have been reading every single comic and keeping pretty copious notes like scoring at home like these are the names of the siblings and this is where snoopy's mom was before this where snoopy was before he got to charlie brown like that all that backstory is just that lore it's kind of news to me i'm just curious how this person learned all of that more

so please call us back

212, what am I talking about 206-414-TBTL 206-414-8285 you probably know the number though because you've already called us once but please call us again I swear to goodness I heard the music creeping up there was that a hallucination?

I wasn't sneaking any music but I can

I promise you right now this level of Words by Doves I'm not playing anything no just joking don't you gaslight me you son of a gun alright that's going to do it for today's show I promise we're going to get things way back on the rails tomorrow so please join us for that in the meantime have a great Monday take care of yourselves be safe and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

dummies you'll never guess what happened to me I was walking around at lunchtime trying to drop off my letter and I walked past the Starbucks and there was a nice barista that was holding a plate or I should say a platter that had little cups of latte in them and she asked if I wanted one and it's the new one it's the Olito Olito the one with the olive oil in it so she asked if I wanted a sample, and I said, fuck yeah, and I'm drinking it, and it tastes amazing. So stay tuned to see if I shit my pants in an hour. Okay, bye. Power out.