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all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a wednesday edition of tbtl the show It just might be too beautiful to live Brilliant millennial lousy satire And it's a big deal My name is Luke Burbank, I am your host

Okay guys, can we get to disc jockeying?

Sorry about the noise in the background Here at the Hollywood Broadcast Center in Portland, Oregon I'm trying to host this podcast And play little audio drops with my right hand While with my left hand flicking this little silly fishing rod with feathers on the end of it

for the cat. Kittens! Inspired by kittens!

I realized right as the show was starting that I had forgotten to get Bubbles' little toy which I like to, while I'm talking to Andrew and saying all kinds of interesting things to you the tens of listeners, I like to also just kind of kind of whatever you'd call it, fling this thing back and forth so the cat also gets a nice little workout while we're doing the show. But I forgot this little wand, and so I ran to the other room to get it. And then, of course, in that time, Andrew thought the entire system had crashed. I picked a very bad time to try to get this cat toy. But a very good time to bring you episode 3,965 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Speaking of good times, a rare good time was had where the stadium where the Oakland A's played last night. Oakland baseball fans are staging something called a reverse boycott.

The crack of the mat, the roar of the crowd. That's right. Baseball's back.

And I have to be honest with you, it is extremely heartwarming. It really is. It's not a story about sports, as we like to say on this show. It's a story about a guy whose dad founded the clothing store, The Gap, and we don't like him, is what it's a story about. So we'll talk about that. But also, speaking of things up in the Bay Area, Reddit employees have been instructed by their supervisor to not wear any Reddit gear out and about in the world because they might come in for some kind of criticism because of what's going on at Reddit with third party apps. It's called the Internet and it's a fresh new way to check out sites, buy clothing and surf music. And if you ever want to hear someone mangle the details of a story about Reddit third party apps, I'm your guy. So stick around for that. Plus, we've got this guy. He's actually a Redditor. He's down there. He's in the trenches. He knows what's happening on the Reddit page. He's the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ship. He's also well-known for his love of cleaning, the podcast Spotless that he co-hosts on the very topic. And he keeps his house just absolutely sparkling clean.

If there was bed bugs, we would have seen it.

He's Andrew Wall. She's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Luke, it's funny how you set up that story about the A's because I was ready to tell you here at the top of the show that what I'm about to tell you, Luke. You were about to tell me what you were about to tell me. What I was about to tell you is this is not a story about plumbing. I want it to be a story about plumbing. It is a story about the human condition, Luke, and a story about how people can evolve and then suddenly realize they don't even recognize themselves. anymore is that compelling enough does that i'm super compelled does that get the people in stop

playing with the cat for a minute to listen to this story can you hear that by the way in the background because i don't want to be distracting to the listeners but we can't hear shit there's so much music playing right now okay this carpet that's carpeted in here and it it improves bubble's life tremendously and it really it's like you playing hex empire it takes zero thought from me but it means that instead of the cat having like a two-hour morning nap before she has to have her four hour after

afternoon nap which means zero hours of sleeping in the middle of the night it just means she gets her yaya's out so okay let's hear it i've killed the music let's hear that little jangly jang okay

here we go it's the jumping that worries oh barely i mean no nothing okay no nothing i'm

gonna go back to the big jump does bingo do that jump where if you have one of these little toys or something like it where he'll jump up in the air and then contort his body mid-air and like

land in a toe it's like an x games move and just defies gravity and it's like how could you just What we think we know about spines all jump like that. Yeah, exactly. OK, so this is the story of a man who went to bed late last night. And this is the story of a man. Me. I'm talking about me who went to bed around. I'm going to say twelve thirty one o'clock last night. And the last act that he had before he laid his head down to sleep was to relieve himself in his basement bathroom. Yes. As he went into the bathroom in his bare feet, this is not a story about feet, he could feel the floor squish beneath his feet a bit. Now, this was something that happened in this basement bathroom a while back. I'm sure I talked about it. We have like, I guess it's linoleum or maybe no, it's like vinyl flooring down here, right? Like whatever cheapo kind of, it's fine. It's fine for it is fake wood looking whatever. um and i'm sure it's pretty resilient or whatever um and we uh maybe six months after living here realized that the area around my bathtub was a little squishy like water was kind of squirting up a little bit if i would step in the right places it would squish down and little beads of water would sort of squirt up between the like kind of cracks between the linoleum you know tiles or again not linoleum what vinyl right it's probably a like a laminate of some sort of

engineered product they'd tell you at home depot yeah and so at first i mean veves and i are kind

of new to home ownership this is again a while back now we're like um you know not used to fix there you go fixing things ourselves so i immediately am like it's the rainy season that's right it was the middle of winter because it had been raining a lot and i'm like oh my god is this a sump pump issue like i i went my brain immediately jumped to the worst case scenario oh the the house is collapsing in on itself right it's over the sump pump gave up and now we have to move out um and uh it turns out you know if you have a sump pump what's it yeah it's right

outside my door okay because that's not typical that's one of those things it's not every home in the northwest has one of those interestingly oh really oh that's yeah um i mean i've none of the houses i've ever owned have had a sump pump up in like the seattle or anywhere area so well

that makes me feel good to know that we have one yeah no it's got to be doing some good work the heavy lifting but of course i mean it was a silly like it was a silly place for me to go right away right like oh the whole basement is flooding water is seeping in from the outside you know our friend Roden who's pretty handy with these types of things and works kind of in kind of tangentially in the construction field uh came over he's like well you probably just have some broken seals in your tub you know why don't you try caulking up the the seals around your tub and your shower walls and everything people who put them in probably didn't do a very good job and there's holes here and there so Genevieve did that she sealed up the tub the water dried up went away and it felt you know good especially for me because i didn't have to do shit other than take a shower when she was done um so that was nice move on now again it's late it's late last night i'm about to go to bed and i walk into the bathroom now not by the tub but by the toilet right in the door to the bathroom where the toilet is the floor is squishy again only way more so and a much bigger footprint uh of this kind of squishy area and water is kind of you know kind of seeping up when i step on it i'm like oh god and there's nothing i can do at this point like it's 12 30 and i'm just like i killed i have a feeling it's not because of a water intake thing i have a feeling there's no dripping anywhere that i see so i think it's kind of probably a

broken seal under the toilet there's not like a um an amount of standing water where like you walk in and like your foot is underwater it's when you step down it sort of like squeezes up kind of yeah okay brings the water to the surface just so i can get a picture of this in my mind but it's

pretty it's worse here like when you walk in because it kind of makes the sound you know of water being kind of squished underneath there so i just kill the water to the toilet i feel like that's not even really what the problem is right now but i'm not dealing with this right now i kill the water the toilet and i go to bed and then i wake up this morning and it's one of those things where i'd kind of forgotten about it in my sleep i'm one of two ways i have one of two ways of sleeping when something's stressing me out i either dream about that exact thing all night specifically on a loop or i wake up blissfully unaware of what i went to bed dealing with and then i'm like oh shit this is the life that i just woke up every day of my life for about

seven months between my junior and senior year of high school where i would wake up and forget that I had gotten someone pregnant for exactly 40 seconds. And then it would hit me, and then I'd be like, God damn it. Thank you, as always, for putting my problems into perspective for me. No, but you did.

That was really not the point, but that's one of my main memories of that period of my life was the amazing 30 seconds every morning before I remembered that I had ruined my life.

Just string those together, and you got yourself a good summer. Right. But anyway, so I woke up this morning. And I'm like, oh, and Genevieve's under the weather today, too. And I'm like, oh, Vives, bad news. I think I think our toilet's leaking downstairs. And, you know, again, I have not even had a chance to do a lot of experimenting with this right now. But again, to be clear, you have water that comes into the toilet tank via a little pipe. Right. And we all know where most of us, I think, know how to turn that water valve off quickly. Like if a toilet is starting to overflow or something.

Yeah, that's one of the few like because it's right there on the wall. Yeah. It's like one of those kind of like even, you know, even Luke's can solve for that problem.

Right. So I'm like, so last night I just turned that off. I'm like, I don't think that's it. And here's the one thing that is sort of helpful here is one time when I was living in a pretty shitty apartment building, a plumber came out. We were having some sort of issue with the plumbing. I don't I don't remember why they thought the toilet was the culprit. But I remember some very nice but somewhat kind of bumbleheaded plumber came out and just sort of like very quickly just like removed the toilet right in front of me before I even realized what was happening. I'm like, oh, wow. And it was kind of like one of those reminders of like these things that just seem like they were that they are permanent structures are all removable in some way. Right. Like this guy just like removed the toilet right in front of me. And I was like, oh, well, oh, wow. That's how toilets move. so this morning I wake up and I like I flush the toilet one last time turn the water off so I drain the tank on it and I'm just and I haven't even looked up YouTube yet but I'm like I guess what I'm gonna have to do is look up how to get as much water out of this toilet as possible and probably yank it up from the ground there's got to be some sort of a gasket I don't remember there's a wax seal yes it's a wax seal because now I've looked it up and I watched a YouTube video about it but and so I it's like a two and a half minute YouTube video I texted our friend Roden I'm like hey this is the scope of the problem do you think this is something that i can just handle myself i'm inclined to do it and he's like i don't know i don't mess with plumbing stuff usually meanwhile

you have a friend who worked at a plumbing company in high school oh that's a good point asking him is it because every story from that summer is about me dodging work and being stressed that i was about to have a baby and that i retained a zero information from the plumbing

and having to give a very sad memorial to the shop cat who you got to know i remember that have that day and a half with old shop cat yeah several stories related to that do you think i

would know anything about plumbing having worked for a plumbing company but i see a they didn't let me do any of the plumbing i was just wandering around the the yard mostly and b if they would have it's all been it's all been washed away by alcohol over these years so you were right to

call rodent and not me and i just texted him and he's like honestly i don't mess with that stuff much like it doesn't you know it you know good luck it's it doesn't seems like something you can maybe explore yourself and so anyway i'm just kind of going through this as i'm also trying to go through my morning and at one point I go back upstairs and again Genevieve's uh ill today and I'm telling her about this and she's like yeah she's like yeah let me know if you feel like doing that or if you just want to call a plumber and then I was like oh we could just call a plumber like it didn't even occur to me that the first step could just be call a plumber because I have a wet floor around my toilet like right that is what you would do but like and this is where I'm not trying to pat myself on the back i ain't done shit yet i'll probably break all of this and then have to call a plumber anyway but like i have somehow evolved in the past year to when i see especially in this bathroom where we've already replaced the sink and the vanity and the lights and the mirror and all of the basically everything in there but the tub it was just like well of course the first thing i'm going to do is tear apart my toilet and take a look see and it's like wait that i don't think is i don't think i don't think you tap on my shoulder a year and a half ago and that's my first instinct but of course i would have called the landlord a year and a half

ago right but no there's a there is a sense of i mean even though it's obviously frustrating also i guess a sense of empowerment of hey there's a problem and it's a problem that i could actually remedy if i watch the right video and i put the time in as opposed to maybe i can call marshawn lynch and he'll come over right right are you worried about being tackled by marshawn lynch certainly i feel like that's what he does in those commercials constantly isn't he just tackling he's just tackling people no he doesn't tackle anybody but he's like he's bobby wagner tackles some i feel like there was some tackling in one i don't want to say the name of the company because i actually hired that company oh my old house the one in seattle where you know tbtl was born literally as a podcast we had uh i've told the story many times but the entire sewer line from the main house out to the street went out and it was a very embarrassing moment because the guy who came out from

that particular company just used his foot to like unscrew some sort of pressure release cap that was on the line and a i'd say two to three foot high like geyser old faithful style geyser of human waste it came out um it was like root intrusion but the thing that was weird was the quote kept changing so much in different directions it was like okay we're gonna dig it out it's going to be 14 000 i was like oh i was like oh that's you know that's a spicy meatball and then it was like okay i got good news we can actually just blow a new liner in but that's on that's that's that's only 7 000 but then it's 4 000 for the liner material and i was like okay like it ended up being done and i think you know the work was fine and it it worked but it was weird like that be negotiating over something like that i didn't love that feeling

it didn't make me feel super because you don't have the you don't you have to trust them for

all of the information exactly and it was wildly it was just like at one point it was like it's going to be this amount and then it was like a totally different amount that was less which seemed cool but then it ended up being more than what the lower quote it was just it didn't feel very precise to me that's my experience with that one thing all of what you're still freaking is what you're saying i'm just saying i was hoping to meet marshawn lynch and it didn't didn't that was another big part of my disappointment no but back to your but back to your point that's a really cool thing and you know not to center myself in the story but you know i'm going to be in the not too distant future moving up to the other house this will be another plot point we may have too many plot points when did this turn into like a telenovela are you my long lost brother who had amnesia and was in a hospital somewhere i didn't know about you because we were going independent i'm going to be a re like like pulling up stakes and setting up the new home of tbtl up there by the river and all this stuff but one of the things that i'm really hoping is that being up there Because there's going to be a massive, massive amount of work to still do when I get up there. Like basically the structure of what I needed done is going to be done pretty soon, as in like literally structural stuff, like moving a wall, raising or taking a roof off, putting another roof on, et cetera. But after that, it's going to be a lot of me and bubbles and this house that still needs to have an entire kitchen moved, an entire bathroom moved, et cetera, et cetera. And I'm really hoping that this will be a journey for all of us to go on together. And for those of you who like home improvement talk, buckle up. 2024 is going to be – is looking to really deliver on that. But I'm hoping that I can become a little more like what you're talking about. Even though I've had – I've owned a few different houses and I've done big remodeling projects, it's always been hiring someone else. And I am really hoping that I can kind of become a little more like what you're describing, which is someone who instead of just trying to throw money at the problem and hire someone, can kind of like sit down and go, okay, how does this work? How do people do this? can't because i see people all the time online and on tiktok who aren't extra special people they're not necessarily like smarter than i am or more capable in any way they just have sat down and done the time to learn how to do something and then to go through the process for some reason that thing like if i were you and i walked in and the and the floor were wet i would immediately call marshawn lynch by the way i'm saying that because the former seahawk was in a bunch of commercials and still is still is yeah yeah somebody in ohio was like why does he keep

talking about marshawn lynch in fact that marshawn lynch commercial for the plumbing company that shall not be named he's carrying a toilet at one point he's like kind of carrying it like a baby and that is what i'm going to be doing one thing i learned from this um very short tutorial that i watched is um like don't just pick up the toilet and set it to the side because there will still be a lot of water sloshing around in there even if you don't see it so move it to a tub but you

know you say you're also they should have just given the toilet to marshawn why did they try to throw the toilet to lock it on the one lock it i couldn't even hey i'm healing i couldn't i couldn't remember lock it's name for a second but it wasn't but but ironically it's not tyler it's ricardo i know it's the other one the other lock you think that was the problem do you think russ thought he was throwing to tyler lock it maybe he didn't he saw two what kind of team has two receivers that have the same last name but one of them is really good and one of them has

had one catch so far but wait a second ricardo wasn't wasn't technically playing the receiver position right wasn't he something else and he wasn't he an unlikely receiver based on his position what was his no he was a receiver he was that was just a straight up yeah and i think he

mostly did kick return stuff but he wasn't like the guy that we were going to throw to this isn't a story about sports andrew this is a story about luke burbank wondering how if if and how he was

going to continue living after this moment for some reason i had him as like i thought it was like a trickier play i forgot that he was actually a wide receiver i thought he was but he was a very

little huge wide receiver up to that point which is like in on the one hand it's it's genius work because like you know it's not the person that everyone is expecting you to throw to um but on the other hand it's also not the person who maybe you want to kind of like put that sort of pressure on in the super bowl with the 40 five seconds do you think russ was like oh my god i didn't see the e on your jersey because the other locket i think the other like tyler lockett's nickname for a while was no e right because he was called locket without an e on the end of it and there were two lockets on the team uh and famously in the same receiving court but i uh interrupted you you were starting to say i was just gonna say like it's funny because you said you if you were in this situation the first thing you would have done what was called marshawn lynch or a plumber to fix it but like But you clearly know, like, I didn't wake up this morning knowing that it's like a wax filled gasket ring that I need to clean out until I watch that YouTube video. Why do you know so much about the undersides of toilets? Because, buddy, I've really painted a few toilets in my day. Real paint job. If you know that, then why wouldn't you have felt like empowered to like toilet?

I think my – well, okay, so I think the issue is over the course of – I'm 47 now, so – and I've been – I've sort of like owned – I think maybe I was like – this was a very different time economically in this country. But I think I was 23 or 24 when my first ex-wife and I were able to buy a house. And so since then, that's been however many years, owned some houses, done some remodeling projects. But any time it seems to me that I'm responsible or I take the responsibility to do something, there's some element of the quote-unquote fix that is just not quite right.

Yeah, I'm sure I'll end up there.

No, no, no. I don't – no, see, I don't want to be –

No, I mean you've got to be prepared for that. I still think there might be a plumber in my future, but like I want to at least see.

Actually, I do think though – no, a toilet is a very – listen, you're good with this stuff because it's not unlike an audio board. Like there is just a series of things that happen. And you're going to unscrew the toilet. You're going to pick it up. You're going to put it in the bathtub. You're going to vomit slightly when you look at that wax, what the wax ring looks like. You're going to scrape that off.

No, you skipped a part, though. When I'm carrying the toilet, I'm going to say, got it. What's next?

I mean, you probably don't need to replace the toilet. You probably just need to replace the toilet. You kind of want to.

I hate this toilet, but I probably will not do that.

Listen, honestly, if you're already going to unscrew that toilet and take it off, chuck it baby like just go get yourself a pick yourself up a nice new comfy toilet uh somewhere i mean because if you don't like the toilet then i would say undoing it replacing the the wax and the whole situation and and tightening it back down is a lot of work to just have the same

toilet that you don't like it's not uncomfortable to use i just don't like the design of it it's weird it like kind of comes down in this strange way joy andrew but today but you're a you're a

You're a Lowe's guy, right?

Which is the one near you, near y'all that you like. We have, yeah, we have two near us, but I do Lowe's and then if they don't have what I need, then I try Home Depot. But I, the thing is like, it isn't, I think it's a newish toilet. This would be a negotiating, not a negotiation, but it would be a conversation with Genevieve. I don't think Genevieve would be interested in getting a new toilet down there. Because it's your bathroom too, right? It's the one that you, I guess you both use it when you're downstairs. Yeah. It's not kind of primarily your domain. Yeah. And also, I mean, and again, like, you know, we're we're, you know, whatever. Like, we're not I don't want to be a.

Oh, you recently you and I quit our job. Yeah. And starting July 3rd, we're going to find out to that. Like, we're going to find out if this is still a job.

I'm not saying we can't afford a toilet. I'm just saying that, you know, we're being careful as we head into some uncharted waters and like just tossing away, you know, what seems to be a pretty new toilet, but just not the design that I like. And my issues with it are pretty nitpicky, I think, for the idea of spending a few hundred dollars for a new toilet.

So anyway, I think you're going to do well with this repair because it's – I'm always marvel at your ability to solve issues with either audio chains and also with computer stuff because you're very kind of systematic with it in this way that I think is really admirable. Like if something on the – like some part of the computer is not doing what we need it to do, you'll kind of just go through the steps. you're like okay well this is talking to this you'll download new drivers like you do all this stuff that i that i would just be like this i would i mean this is a real like microcosm or of or an indicator of of why i'm not good with this stuff because as soon as it says download drivers i'd be like this is not gonna work and then i would take it to the apple store you do those steps and you usually get a good outcome and this is the same thing i mean it's just a series of steps you undo the toilet you put it in the bathtub or whatever you you clean take the wax off you clean the air you put the new one on you make sure that the that the the bolts are okay you check the you know little area because obviously there's no visible damage on your

toilet right like where this where the nuts tighten down in fact like i'm still this is still an assumption on my part i just can't imagine where else the leaking is happening if it's if it's coming up from under the floorboards yeah i feel like that has to be where it's the most likely culprit plus it's got to be the culprit and it's got to be that part of the culprit but And I think just for the record, for people who are already like probably slamming out emails. to me like i think the big concern is going to be like well what kind of damage has have we created underneath the flooring and do we have a mold issue or whatever i think i caught this within 24 hours my plan is to pick up the toilet carry it like marshall lynch to the bathtub and set it down hopefully not sloshing toy toy water all over the place and then just chilling for a while keep that toilet off there let the floor dry out and i'm not gonna even mess around with wax or anything until I can step on that floor and it's not squishy anymore. And if it doesn't unsquish in the next 24 to 48 hours, they say the first 48 are the most important hours. You want to solve the crime. Yes.

The clock starts ticking right away.

I will let you know. I mean, if anything, we've created a bit of a mini narrative here. I will let you know tomorrow where I'm at.

And also a macro narrative because now I'm on the Home Depot toilet page. Let me tell you what. Anything gold? Whereas you are being careful with your money because we may or may not have a job after the fawn. I am eyeing a $1,200 Toto built-in bidet toilet.

Whoa. Does it come with a chandelier you can hang above it or a tension around?

It comes with a bunch of boxes. It's weird. They're cardboard. They say. Like file boxes? They say top secret on them. God, the Toto S300E washlet electric. This is not even the toilet, Andrew. This is, I believe, just the seat is $1,103.

Is it really modern looking? because i'm looking at toilets now and it turns out like i think the issue with mine is it's a little too and again it's not expensive i'm sure they bought the cheapest one possible but it's like it's a the toilet i have now is a one-piece toilet and so it's a little bit more modern looking the way it goes down to the floor i'm looking at two-piece toilets i assume that means the tank comes off separately but it's got more of a classic look it doesn't have like this modern i'm seeing one here that has glowing blue lights coming from that one looks like it's a composting

toilet i don't like that i don't like the look of that that one that looks like that is a toilet from a futuristic episode of of uh peewee herman show like it might come to life it might start talking to you after you after you put something in it or you maybe a better example you know what it reminds me of is the venus fly trap from little shop of horrors for some reason or it reminds me

of something from like futurama like you sit on it and it vacuum seals your waist immediately and

then shoots it out to space or something all of these new and welcome to toilet talk toilet talk All of these new – like, if you're in the fancy bidet toilet section of the Home Depot website, all of these toilets are very odd-looking to me. Like, they all look like – you know what? They look like composting toilets that you would find in an RV or a boat or something where you'd – you know, it's not like a normal toilet that you can just flush. Like, there's something weird about it. They all have, like, some kind of odd shape to them that doesn't seem comfortable for my tuchus.

I just want a normal toilet. I just want to be a normal boy with a normal toilet. Here, I like the... Thanks a lot, Obama. Oh, here. American Standard is the brand, right? I like the American Standard Champion Tall Height Two-Piece High Efficiency 1.28 Gallons Per Flush Single Flush Elongated Toilet with White Seat.

I wonder if part of the reason all the bidet toilets are like oddly shaped is because of something having to do with the water stream and a more like a better you know sort of access point for that in some way or another because i mean it's very consistent they all have what again i consider to be a um one of them's called the casta diva andrew do you have a real diva in your life would you like to get them would you like a toilet that your divas bunghole deserves i like

let me point you towards the casta diva i like this one here called the derringer or this one the pheasant under glass real miss real the derringer real missed opportunity can it be called the dairy erringer there are some mr show sketch that i'm quoting there where it's just like somebody i think it's like i think i think it's a commercial for an adult like for a sex shop basically and they're selling all kinds of toys and they all have names um and they just keep listing them and listing them and but in a very monotone like it's like the derringer the pheasant under glass anyway that was what i was stealing my joke from um uh i just want to mention to

first of all you have created a narrative that if if if not the listeners at least i am very invested in i really want and and please take pictures um i want you to i want you to do the thing do you have a tripod can you mount your camera and then do like time lapse so it's like

you going real fast i'm like why is he sitting there crying for so long what i mean if this and fast speed he must have sat there for five hours just head in hand face face and palms just

weeping on the edge of the tub um i do really want to hear how this goes i'm quite i'll let you know and i'm hoping again speaking of macro narratives i'm really hoping that i can sort of i'm eternally hoping i can become a different person than i am but i'm really hoping that like i can get over some of my i guess you would say fear of taking on certain projects because historically lead.

There's always been like I built at the very first house that we bought. We set up an art studio for my ex in what had been the garage, and there were some old rickety stairs that were going up to this little loft space. And I decided to take a weekend to rebuild them, and it just – like to take them down, the old ones, and then to build new ones. And I was like, you go and you buy the materials and you measure, and it's like there are these – I don't even know what they're called, with basically like the sort of piece of wood that's cut that you attach to the building and then that goes down to the ground you have two of them and then you lay the stairs on them right i don't know what those the fact that i don't know what that's called is a bad sign but i just remember like measuring it all out buying all of the pressure treated wood setting it all up and it like it was usable it was fine but it was like i don't think he'll ever hear this i'm not even going to say specifically but let's a distant relative of mine is a real uh in in inveterate uh home improver and everything that he does is just a little off it's like oh he put a new uh you know put a new handrail and going down to the basement it's like yeah but it's like not level and it's three inches short and there's two different brackets like or he put a he put a little uh solar greenhouse on the over the the porch and then whatever but it's like yeah but like it leaks and it's kind of like a little off kilter like everything is just slightly off it's functional but it's all just kind of a little wrong and that's how every project that i do comes out whereas like so we put sorry this is just going so hardcore on this construction talk but like uh in the future tbtl studio i had to have a ceiling put in and it was this tongue and groove pine and it was the guys that did it did an insanely good job you look at it and it's like i don't understand how they did this they cut all of this stuff perfectly so that it fits and goes around these scissor trusses and it's just like flawless and if you had assigned me the task of putting this stuff up i mean it would be so bad so for me it's sort of like knowing what i can do and what i can't do and trying to expand what i can do but also knowing when to pull back and like let a professional handle the rest of it um but i'm just hoping that i'm hoping to become more

like you andrew once i move up to the other house everybody should try to be more like me i will say this i will take care of the plumbing by myself but i'm going to hire a plumber to clean out my gmail because i'm just getting more reminders here that i need to do that i'm amazed that we're this

far into the week and you haven't and you haven't uh tackled that because i felt like that was going

to be that would be something that that speaking of your stress dreams it's been i mean i know i've said this to you off air a couple of times i'm not saying this to be any kind of a martyr in a certain way it's invigorating and it's good to see everything happening there's a lot of stuff and movement but like for the past i don't know like three or four months you and i have been making a lot of plans along with the folks at apm to kind of you know um part ways with apm start our own thing move the rss feed plan a live show all these things and as of what day was i doing the um when did schubert tip come out monday um it i keep on describing it to genevieve as like everything came crashing up on the rocks like on monday in a good way like things are happening but there were all these like things that were like we're gonna have to deal with this we're have to deal with this we had like kind of lines out in the water but now like everything is happening at fast pace all at once and like it's really hard for me to even like be doing the show with you right now and not being like slacking with the producers at apm about like right these questions are going back and forth about rss feeds and i'm not sure if i'm supposed to be the one jumping in to answer them or somebody else will and i still have a lot of questions but this this email thread between engineers at the new rss system or talking to a bunch of engineers at 8 p.m. and it's just kind of like it's just one answer raises more questions to everything and so I just have not this is not the time that I have the luxury of sitting down and just like going through emails so basically what we know is you're going to be pooping in a hole

in that bathroom basement that basement bathroom for the next until at least july like that's a

really good point I mean in a certain way though but that is a good example though of just like but also things happen and you're just gonna have to deal with it I actually did think of you today I'm just like, oh, this isn't happening at a great time. I'm like, well, actually, no, it would be worse if it was happening the day before I was leaving to do the TV telephone, you know, like, whatever, I'll figure it out.

And I mean, you're also in a unique position because you're handling you're exclusively handling all of the tech on this big transfer, which is pretty complicated stuff. And then you're also jumping on the air and co-hosting the program. So that's a lot. I want to just I want to give you your roses, as they say now.

They say that a lot now. is that that's from the the reality tv show right that's from the bachelor or the bachelorette

maybe that's where maybe that's where it got its start i mean yeah i've just heard that as now the way to take you know when someone's when you're complimenting someone or honoring them but like really you're doing a hard thing which is a lot of technical stuff that just takes a lot of organizing and understanding of that whole side and then turning around and then being delightful on the show. Joe, those are not usually the same person who's able to do both of those things. So congratulations on that, and be nice to yourself. It's a story of the human condition, Luke. It sure is, Andrew. We've got another one coming up after this break about what's going on in Oakland. So stay with us. This is TVTL. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. All right. But before we jump into the story from Oakland, just a reminder that, yes, we are having the TBTL 4,000th episode at the Neptune Theater, Saturday, July 29th, doors at 7 p.m. It is all ages, and we would love to see you there. I think most of the floor is now sold out. There's lots of great seats in the balcony still available, and I'm sure there'll be some kind of – I'm sure we'll be hanging out, socializing, and doing all kinds of stuff. So, you know, even if you're sitting in the balcony, you'll definitely have a chance to come say hi to us after the show. They'll probably will end up being some sort of series of other social events around it, as there often are. So you can go to tbtl.net. And no matter which version of tbtl.net you receive, I noticed you put up buttons in both places, Andrew. Thank you for your hard work. We're in the midst of some transitioning around the web stuff. And so depending on if you've cleared the cache on your browser recently, you may get the typical tbtl set you're used to. Or you might get the new one, but both of them have buttons where you can click and go and buy a ticket. It's 4,000 pennies for a ticket, a.k.a. $40, before service charges. And, yeah, it would be really awesome if we saw you there on Saturday, July 29th.

It's a big deal. This is a really big deal, and I'm really looking forward to seeing everybody. We haven't had a big bash like this in a long, long time, obviously pre-pandemic. And so, yeah, and I think a lot of people, I mean, it's really it's really exciting to see the passion with which people were awaiting the announcement of where the 4000th episode was going to be and how you can get tickets to it. I'm also very proud that I just said 4000th without even yeah, I'm getting better at that. But anyway, yeah, so a lot of people are showing up. A lot of people are showing up from all over the country for this thing. So if you can join, I think it really it's going to be a special time.

And, I mean, the people that would, you know, maybe travel from other places to come to one of our events, I don't have to tell them this because they already know it. But, like, the thing that's really fun about something like this is that it ends up just being a weekend of hang times with various tents and people will plan little things. And, you know, we have a lot of tents that are in Seattle, so they know the lay of the land. Like, Saturday night will be sort of the, I guess, the big, the sort of big event. But there will be brunching and there will be hanging out and there will be, you know, touring around town. Like, the thing about the 10s is they all look out for each other. So it's just going to be a big kind of TBTL celebration that weekend. So if you can make it to Seattle, there's going to be, I presume, a lot of fun stuff going on.

And you can all stay with Phyllis. Exactly. I think that's fine that I put that. Or Andrew and Genevieve if you get the toilet fixed in. That was my original joke. And I was like, that's too scary for me to even joke about. I'll throw Phyllis in there as a bunch of. Wow.

27,759 people showed up at the Oakland Coliseum yesterday in what they were calling a reverse boycott. They were, God bless them, those A's fans. They've been just so beat down and beleaguered because the owner of the team, who, by the way, is the heir to the Gap fashion empire. I don't know why that, I have nothing against the Gap. I used to wear a lot of clothes. back when uh back when the brian setzer orchestra was lighting up the charts and their cover of louis prima song jump jive and whale was featured in that gap commercial where people were swing dancing i was very much into wearing clothes from the gap but there's something about some person who just their dad invented the gap and now they have all this money and they also own the oakland a's and they just want to move them to las vegas i know we have some listeners in vegas and and And the thing about Vegas is it's a more interesting city than just the Strip. There's lots of stuff going on there. There's lots of people that live there. There's lots of people who really love it there. And, again, it's not just the neon lights and the glitz of the Strip, which is a mistake that I often make in my own mind because when I go to Vegas, it's typically that part of the city. I don't think of it sometimes as a real city because I only go there and go up and down the Strip. so with peace and love to our our listeners in vegas it feels to me like kind of a jerk move to take the a's out of oakland where they've been for so many years and move them to las vegas and i think it's interesting also that guess who's the other person who did this the owner of the oakland raiders mark davis guess how mark davis got the oakland raiders his daddy gave them to him this is the second person whose daddy gave them something who wants to take a team from

oakland and move it to las vegas but even he was talking shit about how bad a's ownership is i don't know that i don't know i don't know really what that proves but i think like mark davis was saying that like oh what an awful i think they've i think they've beefed for a long time the raiders ownership and the um and the a's ownership but yeah it just seems like it just i don't think

anybody likes the a's ownership um the 27 000 and change folks who came uh was like more than i think triple the typical attendance this year at these a's games now for those who aren't uh baseball watchers i mean what basically happened was the the a's have have always sort of for many years during like the the billy bean era that was you know you guys saw the the the movie money ball where brad pitt played this guy named billy bean the a's have for a long time been a team that didn't have a high payroll but that was able to win a lot of games and get into the playoffs and use the strategy called money ball but they've always been pretty underfunded probably since I don't know in the like in the 90s when it was like Ken Seiko and Mark McGuire, the Bash brothers. I don't know if in that era the ownership was actually spending money on folks. But for a long time, they've just been kind of a, you know, a bit of a forgotten team and a team that that their ownership wasn't putting a lot of money into. Their stadium is legendarily kind of bad toilets. Speaking of toilet talk, they had open like sewage running through the stadium at times during rainstorms and things like that. so it's just been a pretty sort of beleaguered team and and then the idea that this owner would then i guess just struck a deal with las vegas or i should say um was it the las vegas city council they just took a vote in vegas that i think is being seen as kind of the sort of the death knell um the nevada it was sorry it was the state senate the nevada senate voted 13 to 8 to give john fisher that's the owner of the oakland a's um 380 million in public money oh is that all a package of public funding that will pave the way to build a 1.2 billion dollar stadium on the las vegas strip so of that it sounds like 380 million is what vegas will kick in for this billion dollar stadium that's going to bring the a's or nevada actually it sounds like the state

senate um can i just read everything you said is correct but i i really like this one graph in this article from espn this is uh tim kuhn if i'm saying his name properly um writing for espn this sums up what this ownership did what this owner did in order to justify a move he ground that he made all of these decisions to destroy the team and destroy the stadium and destroy the fan experience then use that to justify the move here it is the quote directly the a's won 97 games in 2019 and made the postseason again in 2020 before fisher began stripping the team of its young stars reducing payroll to the lowest in baseball the team raised ticket prices and did little to nothing to improve the fan experience as the winds dwindled and then used poor attendance and the condition of the ballpark to justify its decision to seek a new home this is exactly what those

people from oklahoma city did when they bought the seattle supersonics literally the exact same thing they got rid of all the good players they the team sucked no one went to the games and then they were able to say look no one's going to these games we can move the team and it's it's it's like straight what's happening in oakland it's straight out of the movie major league it's like that was a documentary about this thing where somebody you know acquires the team and then wants the team to do badly so then they can move the team and they want the attendance to be poor so that was what the fans were trying to push back on when 27 000 of them showed up um uh last night also i think oakland is on a slight winning streak right right haven't they won a few games in a row now i think

i think historic in a team that has such a bad record because they were they were on track to have the worst record in the history of modern baseball this season if they kept up their performance but now i think they've had a historic turnaround for a team that is doing so badly has now had i think the longest winning streak for a team with that record so if that if that makes sense if you can hold those things in your in your head at the same time i think they've maybe won i could be wrong i don't know what happened last night they won six in a row maybe seven now i don't know yeah i think they're maybe at seven i think i saw that it's such a this whole

topic is really weird to me i mean from my perspective because if we were talking about a quiznos store if you had a quiznos in oakland and you decided you wanted to close it and you wanted to move to vegas and open a different quiznos i think my take would be like hey it's your business like you own the business or whatever you know you can do what you want and this is on some level of business but it feels to me so disrespectful to the sort of civic culture of a place to take a baseball team any pro sports team which again i understand this is all just a big giant business but somehow it feels like a business that you shouldn't be allowed to move where you want to take your business which yeah i understand that's a little inconsistent because well there's

There's huge amounts of tax money involved as well at all kinds of concessions like, yes, this is the people's park in many. It's not just a business. Right. Although I guess in Oakland, the only argument that the I don't know really what the details are, but I would say that the owner of the A's hasn't spent any money on them. And I don't think I mean, yes, you know, Oakland Stadium is owned by the by by the city. But it's like I don't know if Oakland has pumped a ton of money into the team as a city either.

But I think it's sort of a self-fulfill. Isn't that sort of a cyclical thing, though? I mean, this is the relationship. I think the city has a toxic relationship with this ownership group because of these things. But I'm sure if the city was like, hey, we're willing to play ball and if you were, they did you read that part of this article?

Like they talked to somebody from the I think that to the mayor of Oakland and somebody else in Oakland who said, let's see, they talked to, well, Congresswoman Barbara Lee. I mean, she's in the U.S. Congress and another representative, Mark DeSaulnier from Concord. They've introduced a bill called the Moneyball Act. It takes aim at MLB's antitrust exemption. So they're trying to work it from the antitrust angle. There was another person in the local politics of Oakland who was saying we were like one day away from raising like one point something billion dollars to build a new stadium for the A's or at least to, you know, kind of redo this sort of part of Oakland, I think, along the water. and it included a new stadium like according to the people in oakland they were like just about to ink the deal to get the a's to keep the a's around and then they got the call literally like the owner the owner of john fisher of the a's called this person in oakland was like yeah we just got a deal with uh nevada so now we're good like it was like it according to them there was

like a day away from having the oakland deal done it's so gross it's so infuriating but i guess just to deliver on the promise of of the story of the charming part of this so like like you said they you know it was almost 28 000 people i think showed up they had uh t-shirts they were giving away t-shirts like these fan groups raised tons of money to get t-shirts that just say sell on them apparently and they just filled the the stadium with fans chanting sell the team right i actually heard a bit about this on i think a mariners broadcast the other day maybe last night they mentioned that you could just hear like all the audio for not all but like parts of the audio from the game you just hear the entire crowd chanting sell the team it's like it's um you know i think they're probably tilting at windmills here but it's like it kind of warms the heart it's both sad and and encouraging at the same but just it's like just give uh give las vegas a new team

like you did with the vegas knights who just won the nhl stanley cup it's like just expand you don't have to take a team this is what they should have done with the sonics they should just give an oklahoma city a team but the owners don't want to do that because that dilutes their the shared revenue that means their thing they own becomes less valuable by 129th or whatever however many teams are on the nba how many teams are on the mlb the owners of major league baseball all have a vested interest in having fewer major league teams not more major league teams because their asset is slightly less valuable that way but what they should really do is just if if they think las vegas and again i don't want to be i don't want to sound like i'm being mean or dismissive of our fine listeners that live in las vegas but like it's i don't i wonder i'm curious about like the raiders when you go to if you were to go to a las vegas raiders game what percentage of the people watching that game are from las vegas and what percentage are in vegas that weekend from god knows where and want to go do a thing it's an interesting sort of fan base because i don't get the sense that it's everything everybody's coming in from henderson and summerland and the uh sparks and the other outlying areas and they're all like we've got our vegas raiders now it's like a bunch of people who are from oakland and la who are in vegas for the weekend to raise hell who then go to the football game i feel like that's probably what happens with the knights the knights i think are more because they didn't exist anywhere else i think are more of a vegas a truly vegas experience I think you're right. I've been there with Nights games and letting out. You see a lot of people who, I don't know how I intuit this, but I get the sense that they feel like the Vegas Knights are really the Vegas team. And it's like the Raiders are a fun, cool thing that's happening. But it's kind of a traveling show that just happens to do its thing eight times a year in that stadium.

I have a solution. I mean, I do think expansion is a little bit more complicated than that because you might have to expand in other markets as well to balance out the divisions. I'm not exactly sure what goes into that, how big of an expansion have to be. But think about this. Move the Yankees there. New York City already has two baseball teams. And have them play the Dallas Cowboys. I just want to see the New York Yankees get picked up and moved to Vegas. Like that, that I would enjoy.

It would be perfect because the Yankees are one of those teams. And yes, you know, there are certainly dyed in the wool Yankees fans who grew up in that region and love the Yankees forever. But the Yankees are also one of those teams.

that like if you if you're looking for a sports personality you might just glom onto the yankees because they're on tv a lot and they're the bronx bombers and all that if you're a white rapper from

seattle with strong connections to the community here you might wear a yankees hat in your in your

video so like the the yankees are the perfect team for vegas because vegas is a complete vegas is built on bullshit and the yankees in my opinion built on bullshit they're like it'd be a perfect pairing like all the fairweather fans who just like to wear yankees gear and go to vegas could go watch the yankees play when they were in vegas it's really like you know how vegas has this sort of like the kind of scaled down version of the real thing they've got a fake eiffel tower they've got a fake new york skyline at new york new york it's like vegas is just the fake version of everything to put the yankees in there they're the fake version of a baseball team as far as i'm

concerned sorry sklar off i'm turning off the voicemail i love you you cannot respond to this

And our other listeners who are Yankees fans. Listen, if I grew up in New York, I would be a Yankees fan, probably. So it's just that I didn't. And unlike McLemore, I have, what do we call it, morals. Have you been following any of this Reddit story? No, I just heard you talk about it at the top of the show. So I guess Reddit is rolling out some new pricing for third-party apps. This, by the way, was news to me that there are third-party apps within Reddit.

Yeah, what do they do, I wonder? Because I know that I use a third-party app to read Twitter on my phone years and years and years ago because there wasn't a good Reddit app. Sorry if I misspoke there. But you're talking about things that are actually part of the user experience within Reddit?

I think these are – it's something called the API pricing that Reddit – I'm reading from The Verge. This was Mia Sato and Jay Peters writing in The Verge. Reddit first announced it would be changing its API pricing in April, positioning the changes as a way to make money from companies using Reddit data to train artificial intelligence tools. Oh, I see.

So you're using these APIs to kind of leverage the power of Reddit and the information stored on Reddit to your own ends off of Reddit. Okay.

Yes, but over the last couple of weeks, it's become clear that changes could come at a major price to third-party app developers. The makers of apps like Apollo for Reddit and Riff is Fun for Reddit. Are you familiar with either of those things?

Oh, well, did you say, is Riff Reddit is Fun? Reddit is Fun. Oh, yeah, probably. Okay, that's the one I used to use. Yes, yes. So that's the one that I used to use years ago because I couldn't find a good Reddit app on my phone. So I was like, oh, I can read Reddit using RIF. Reddit is Fun.

OK, gotcha. So I think like that Reddit is fun and Apollo, which are the two biggies, are they're saying it's going to start costing them like millions of dollars a year with this new pricing model that Reddit is rolling out. And so they went dark for a few days. I think they're maybe going to come back online maybe today. And a lot of the people in the Reddit community who like these third-party apps and use them are also like sort of stepping away from the site or raising hell. Well, basically, they don't want it to become too expensive for Reddit is fun to keep operating. So there's just been this kind of – as the – I don't think he's the CEO, but as the – let's see. Oh, he is the CEO, Steve Huffman. This is what he wrote. First of all, he says, hi, Snus. This is an all staff. S-N-O-O-S. I can only guess that that's some kind of Reddit. It's a term that the folks that work for Reddit use for each other. um said starting last night about a thousand subreddits have gone private i guess that was the protest was a lot of these subreddits going private so they're trying to kind of like shut the site down in protest over this new pricing um we have anticipated many of them will come back wednesday um while we knew this was coming it's a challenge nevertheless and we have to uh we have our work cut out for us a number of snooze have been working around the clock adapting to infrastructure, infrastructure strains, blah, blah, blah, blah. While the biggest third party apps, Apollo and Reddit is fun, along with a couple others have said they plan to shut down at the end of the month. We're still in conversation with some of the others. I'm sorry to say this, but please be mindful of wearing Reddit gear in public. Some folks are really upset and we don't want you to be the object of their frustration. So that's sort of where things are at, I guess, with Reddit and with these third party things right now.

For what it's worth, because it's probably frustrating to people who are deep in this universe, But I guess Snoo is the name of that alien. That's the logo for Reddit. Oh, okay. And so Snooze are probably, you know, people who are deep in the Reddit world or people who work for Reddit. We snoozed and look who we just loosed. Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man, it's not from a female.

All rightly. Emails of emails.

Yes. OK, because we're a little bit short on time here and we won't have time to do voicemails on Thursday and Friday of this week. Let me just summarize a couple of these. We got a voicemail from Kara, who also grew up in Ohio like me. I don't know if she said Cleveland or just Ohio, but also called the things that you put your beer can into to keep them cold cozies growing up. And so we call them koozies out here. And I said to you on the show, I thought we called them cozies growing up, but maybe that was just me or my weird family or something. But it does seem to be a regional thing, Luke. I think cozies makes more sense, by the way.

It keeps it cozy. Well, I guess it's slightly warm, though. Yeah, I associate coziness with warmness, but I still think koozie is a non, I mean, that's like a, that's a made up word, right? Koozie doesn't have any, like a cozy, while it loses on the warmth aspect, it at least is a word that existed.

And it seems to be based on, like, if you had, like, let's say, an aunt or a grandma who had a tissue box that was underneath, like, a knitted thing, that would be a cozy, right? Not a koozie. That would be your Kleenex cozy. Right. I used to make those, by the way, in, like, third grade.

Was that a side gig?

Yeah.

We had, like, an arts. We would do this. This was a Mrs. Wharton's class. It was a combined. It was Daniel Bagley Elementary, and it was combined third through fifth grade. And every Friday for the last hour would be art, and we would make all kinds of just unbelievably shitty stuff that we would sell. So the things we'd make would be God's Eyes. Do you remember what that was?

Oh, yeah.

It was like a cross, but then you kind of—

You made a cross out of Popsicle sticks, right? But then you'd wrap yarn around it over and under and over and under.

And I guess you hang it from like a tree or from we make God's eyes. We made and then we made a lot of things that started off as like a plastic mesh board, little square. And then you would do you would knit like you would take a very dull needle and thread and you would go through and kind of go up and down, up and down. And you would basically cover this whole thing in yarn and then you would make four of them. And then you do this base and you would somehow stitch it all together and it would be a paper holder. So like back when we had home phones You would put this thing Next to your phone And you could put some paper in it and like a pencil And then when you had to write down a phone number You could do that Also we made those tissue cozies Like they would go over the tissue box And we'd work on this all year And then we would have a big art sale Which would be basically the parents would be forced to buy this shit And then the money would go into the fund So when we went to Camp Casey For the last like week of the school year some kids who were less fortunate could get their $60 that it cost to go to Camp Casey covered.

I should get some popsicles, man. We're starting to get into the heart of summer here, and I haven't had any... I bought popsicles! Did you? What flavor? So good. Like, the traditional?

Well, I was at this place called New Seasons, which, of course, they're not going to have, like, the legit old-school stuff, so I bought whatever.

Rosemary popsicles? Exactly.

I mean, they're technically grape and cherry, and, like, they're good flavors, But they're definitely not flavor blasted to the degree that I was sort of hoping for.

I like the ones, and we used to go to special, like you have your typical popsicles. I think I've talked about this a lot on the show, like grape, cherry, and orange, I think. But then our family, and we would go to great lengths to obtain the boxes that had, they're like one step above, I would say, although that's subjective. Like root beer, blueberry, banana. Root beer's so good. Yeah, my dad was obsessed with root beer popsicles, and there was this place called C&C out in Valley City, Ohio, that, like, he would – I think he worked deals with the people to bring in boxes of these root beer popsicles. I'm not even joking. But anyway, that has nothing to do with this voicemail that I'm about to play for you. Oh, I wanted to say we also got several emails and voicemails from people who were saying you were walking through tall grass and you had a bunch of mosquito bites that were bugging you. A lot of people are saying that could be chiggers. I've never experienced that myself, but watch out for that.

I think I'm okay, but, yes, I did realize I was going to concern the listeners, too, because also ticks. I'm not trying to get Lyme disease or anything. I'm going back out there today, later, and I am going to wear long pants.

One person who was a very cool person, Laurel, was saying that chiggers will kind of stick with you. Like, the bites will stick with you a little bit longer than a mosquito bite. So if they do last a little bit longer, maybe that's an indication. I'm feeling up.

OK, well, that's good.

I doesn't seem to. I think it might have been garden variety mosquito bites. OK, and I do want to actually play one voicemail. This is from listener Brent, just offering a little bit more dazzling details for a story that you just sort of glancingly mentioned on. I want to say yesterday's show about a golfer who was already out of the majors tournament, but was there as a bystander, as somebody who was watching his friend and then celebrated his friend by popping a bottle of champagne on the course and was tackled by security because security did not realize that this person who did this wasn't just an average Joe, but somebody who actually competes at the highest levels of golf. Well, Brent had some more details on that.

Oh, man, it's Brant from Moraga, and I'm listening right now halfway through Tuesday's episode, and Luke just missed a huge opportunity. I don't throw my phone like a lot of tens do because I don't listen to the Mariners. I'm not a Seattle fan generally, but, yeah, you just mentioned the PGA thing. So the event was the Canadian Open, and the big deal was the fact that a Canadian won it for the first time in 65 years. and yes the guy that got tackled was indeed a competitor but he'd been done for three hours and was in a hoodie and jeans and so yeah when he was standing there by the sidelines he got tackled when he went back out there by security but the great story is watch social media because in a typical canadian fashion as he got tackled he apologized great story give it another listen

or look on social media power out also great phone line great voice great delivery brent

don't uh don't talk your way into my job my friend um that is a missed opportunity i did not know all of those details i had just seen you know something quickly on the internet um but uh i do love that uh i do love that there was apologizing in play because that is it does feel like a deeply canadian element to the story definitely thank you um all right let's i've got to go to an arboretum or a botanical garden here in portland andrew and do a sit-down interview with a uh somebody named canopy meg who is considered one of the world's experts on living in the tree canopy she's been researching and studying and climbing trees remember i did that crazy where i climbed that 300 foot tree that that was that was part of it this is another element of the story so i'm gonna go learn all about she wrote a a book called the arbor knot which is about her all her studies of the of the tree canopy and also tomorrow on the show maybe

put a note on your show sheet you mentioned a couple of times i think that um you over i want to say over the weekend or sometime recently were one of the many mcs to help out at what was supposed to be the world's longest drag show i believe it hasn't happened yet oh it hasn't okay but there's some you have some details anyway don't get into it now let's save that for tomorrow I'm interested in an update on that.

Yeah, my details are petty and will probably cause people all over the country to throw their phone. So it'll be something to tune in for tomorrow, definitely. I just added it to the show sheet draft for tomorrow. Oh, I heard the typing. Yep. Wow, you could hear that, but not the cat. That's so interesting. No, it's probably closer to the mic. That's going to do it for today's show. Again, go to tbtl.net and grab your tickets for the 4,000th episode, Saturday, July 29th. Can't wait to see you there. In the meantime, have a great Wednesday. Take care of yourselves. Go Mariners, huh? Three wins in a row? Could it happen? Mike Ford, your boy, two home runs last night. Dude, I got him started. I got him started with negging him on the text chain. That's all he needed. He's got like four home runs in the last three games.

I know. I really want, because you know that he was a slugging machine in AAA. In the minors, but I just kept thinking. And I really wanted to see that translate.

I was like, maybe he can't translate it. This isn't a story about baseball. It's a story about Luke being loud wrong on the text chain. This isn't a story about baseball. This is a story about betting. No. Yes. I did. No, I didn't have him down for a home run. That would have been the ultimate. All right. Thanks, everyone. We'll see you tomorrow. In the meantime, have a great Wednesday, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Hey, buddy. It's Pat again. You just told a very funny Arnold Schwarzenegger joke. And I have a really good dad joke, considering that Father's Day is coming up. So here it is. Why would a gentleman not order a double bourbon? Because it's too whiskey. Makes me laugh. All right. Love y'all. Bye. Power out.