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Well, it's a well-known fact, Sonny Jim, that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as the Pentaverite, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as the Meadows. So who's in this Pentaverite? The Queen, the Vatican, the Gettys, the Rothschilds, and Colonel Sanders before he went to Tetsa. I hated the colonel with his wee beady eyes And that smug look on his face Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken Dad, how can you hate the colonel? Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken That makes you crave it fortnightly, smart arse Interesting TBTL I know everything there is to know about computers, okay? All the Twitters. I know them.

We have to get drinks. Several drinks. Don't you think? Let's celebrate. Let's celebrate drinking. Okay. Did he yip or did he yiff? He said skip and I said, no, my name's Buddy. Okay, he yipped. If he yipped, that means hello. If he yiffs, if that happens, well, then you got a problem. Yeah, you know what? Might have been yiff. Might have been yiff.

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well all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a wednesday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live it's a ship that made the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs my name is luke burbank i am your host this is without a doubt one of my favorite items coming to you from the hollywood broadcast center right here in portland oregon where it is the It's the first day of summer, and it is beautiful outside.

It's like I'm walking on sunshine.

We've got a beautiful episode of TVTL ready to go for you. It's episode 3971 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

If I'm doing the math right, and I think I am, does that mean 28 episodes before we arrive at our 4,000th? I believe that's what that means. It's going to be a fun show today. Domino's Pizza, a frequent topic here on the program, is doing something they've never done before this summer to help you get your pizza and also to help them get some free media coverage. Sometimes you've got to stop and smell the pizza. On programs just like this. Also, I'm the proud owner of a car now, not to brag. It is the same car I've been driving for the last, like, three years or so, but my goodness gracious, car dealerships, really gone car dealership.

That is an RV from hell.

I had a long afternoon at a Mazda dealership yesterday, which we can talk about also. I'm quite regretful of how dismissive I was about this thing that I'm going to get to be in on July 10th. It's Dragathon. It's a big thing. I'm being an ally, it's amazing, I wish I wouldn't have been so rude about it I've made a huge mistake I feel so bad about it that we promoted it yesterday and we didn't talk about it Anyway, that's also coming up on the show And we're going to talk to this guy, Longest Running Cobra of the program Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace, their splendor And all of that intricate rigging There has been a certain amount of confusion around what he's here to do And he'd like to clarify right now

I just want to talk. It has nothing to do with mating.

He's Andrew Walsh.

You're joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Oh, it has something to do with mating, but we'll get into that later. I'm listening. I really want to hear why you have misgivings. I mean, I think I could guess why you have some misgivings about your conversation about your role in the drag performance that we talked about last week.

Can we knock that out right at the top of the show?

Can I just ask you, though, really quickly before we do that, I just had this idea during the intro, and this is very important to me. So, everybody, listen up. I'd like to begin today with the world's stupidest quiz. And it's one question long, and it is so stupid. Is it stupidest or shortest? It is shortest and stupidest and most impossible.

But here's what it is. Was there a website during those heady days in the mid-2000s called Bothist? I could see that.

I feel like it definitely was a spin-off or something. Okay, so as you well know, Luke, and I have mentioned on the show from time to time, A couple of years ago, I started to keep a spreadsheet or spreadsheet in the parlance of this show of the intros.

Isn't that for techno geek?

Nicely done.

i was still waiting um so starting in january of 2021 up until today i have a record of every intro every little piece of joke tape that we've played at the beginning of the show the dry opens from january of 2021 until today but there was one missing for some reason i had not filled in what piece of intro tape we used on may 18th 2022 so this is just a year and a month ago luke And my question for you is, what piece of TBTL intro tape do you think we played on, did I say March? I meant May, May 18th, 2022. You said May. Okay, May 18th, 2022, of all the tape you ever hear me play. So a year, about a year and a month ago. About a year and a month ago, almost exactly. Almost to the date. Can you tell me the exact length? Oh, I like you. You're engaged. I can't believe you're, I'm looking it up. You sound surprised. I'm stalling here. I'm looking it up because I was just looking at the spreadsheet, and I don't keep – you'd be surprised when I don't keep the length of the dry tape. Okay. The tape is – Isn't that for TechnoGeek? It's a shorty. 16 seconds, Luke. That was a great follow-up question. 16 seconds. Yeah. Actually, if you want to ask more questions, I could entertain that. Is it from baskets? It is not from baskets. Oh, okay.

Let's see. Is it a man or woman speaking? It is a man.

Okay, 16 seconds. Is it from a television program? It is not. I was almost going to offer that up, but I'm glad you asked that. This is not TV. So what does that leave? It's not from a TV show. So what does that leave?

Either a movie or some, like a, you know, well, if it were a press conference that were being featured on TV, I guess then it would still be television.

Well, yeah, it's not a TV show, but here is it a movie. So here are the things. And before I answer that, I'll just say Harvey Dent saying my words will have me the hell that is. You love here are what I think the categories are. And I'm not giving any hints in here, but I sort of feel like we play tape that is either sort of like news tape, like something that was actually happening in the news. But we find funny TV shows like scripted TV shows or reality. 30 like sure movies who needs a movie. um and then i would categorize maybe i'll just go broadly with like internet meme style stuff is another big category for us and i think that's mostly it is it i like turtles it is not i like

turtles i'm trying to think of things that would be 16 seconds is it an animal a mineral or a vegetable it is a fella it is a fella on tiktok oh okay okay yeah that's a big one leslie jordan

it is not leslie jordan dang it i will describe it as probably are we playing super password again my favorite i think you sent this to me it was from tiktok and i would say it's probably my favorite tape of 2022 i think is when we introduced it it slayed me it was probably the funniest thing i'd ever heard on tiktok or from tiktok that you had sent me goodness well it's and it's not pd usa related it's not pd usa no because those things tend to be a little

they unfold a little bit more slowly than 16 but by the way 16 seconds was the worst question i could have asked because i'm just obsessed with that detail and it's not getting me any closer you're giving me every hint in the book the funniest thing your favorite piece of tape from tiktok it is a a person on tiktok a guy on tiktok oh i know what it is you know you know

i can hear it what is it i know what it is what grandma can you give me a ride home from the rap battle hey grandma can you come get me from the rap battle no i didn't win no he saw you drop me off it was pretty much over after that he did a pretty devastating rhyme about it it's a long 16 seconds it really is i stepped on it four times oh he did a pretty he did a pretty

devastating rhyme about it what's amazing is so good this probably came up whenever we played the tape in the first place but like that's not a a content creator who uh who i follow much of the other stuff they've done like he's a guy i believe he works in construction maybe and uh you know he kind of does little things here and there on tiktok i might follow him generally but like he hit that one out of the park it was just like he got you know they brought him up to the show cup of coffee in the big time and then he just hit it literally out of the stadium and then they send him right back to the minors his you i mean this is how you know that he's now somebody who's looking for tons of clicks his username is at msd123467 i assume that was assigned to him by tiktok right i don't know why it skips the five this guy hates fives it's one two three four six seven yeah that is a great piece of tape boy so good what a journey over 16 seconds can you play that again and i won't step on it this time it's so good it tells a whole story take a listen hey grandma can you come get me from the rap battle no i didn't win

no he saw you drop me off it was pretty much over after that he did a pretty devastating rhyme about it

that's just so good i love the stories where you have to fill in so much like you're left thinking like, boy, what did that rhyme sound like? What rhymes with grammar? What rhymes with drop-off? What rhymes with Buick Skylark? Okay, Luke, thank you for entertaining that. I'm glad that we're actually laughing. That could have really crashed and burned on me. No, no, that was great. Speaking of grandmas, can I talk to you about what's going on with Federal Express? Sure, but don't forget, we do need to also get to your, I don't know if it's a mea culpa or explanation as well. Oh, right, right.

You know what, I'll do the drag show thing first, which is I'm going to be part of this Dragathon thing that's going on in Portland It's July, I believe, the 10th, 11th, and 12th It's at Darcells It's raising money for the Trevor Project And it's a great thing all around I was a little butthurt And in a weird mood On whatever day I brought this up on the show Because my name was too small on the poster Which, as I was saying it I was like, this is a very bad look for me I knew that But it was like a slow speed crash I couldn't steer into the crash I couldn't stop myself And the other thing I was complaining about Was how they were going to Probably park me at like Three in the morning or something A time slot that would be really Inconvenient for me And how I had asked for 8 to 9 p.m. on Monday Et cetera, et cetera Well, they emailed me I don't think anybody heard the show I mean, that would mean we have a lot of listeners And I think we have a relatively small number of listeners But they did email me people from the thing And they said, A, thank you so much for doing this We really appreciate you helping raise money for the Trevor Project And also, Monday from 8 to 9 p.m. would be perfect We'll see you then And then also, there was a different version of the poster Where my name is less small Everything I was bitching about was not fully accurate So I'm sorry And also, could everyone please try to come Monday night at 8 p.m.? Anybody in Portland who wants to come see me co-host an hour of drag? Because now I feel like we need to pack the house.

And also, everybody should chant Luke, Luke, Luke, just to make it as much about you as possible. Thank you. That's how you pull the nose up on this thing.

If I could be carried off stage, I could crowd surf off stage. which I think that would really kind of cement my reputation around town. Anyway, in all seriousness, I never know the line between when I'm being very kind of honest about my feelings in a way that's entertaining and when I'm being honest about my feelings in a way that's really off-putting. And I think that one was... And no one's blasted me on email or online. Nobody's even said this to me. Yeah, I was going to ask. I just feel like it was off-putting.

People were like, we don't even have to on this one. Like, this one speaks for itself. Hey, Grandma, could you pick me up from the podcast?

Yeah, they saw me drop you off. They didn't send a devastating email. They didn't need to. So anyway, that's what's going on. July 10th, 8 p.m., Darcells here in Portland. Please come out, support the cause, raise some money for the Trevor Project. And I'm sure I'll have a lot of complaints on Tuesday. For now, we're back in a good space. We're in a bad space with FedEx Andrew which is really Cutting down on the number of places I can use now to ship things Because you know UPS is on my list Because they lost my suits And now FedEx is Being quite Let's say entertaining Related to a big shipment that you and I Are sending well really it's our friend Nick at APM is sending From Minnesota out to Where my folks live because we're going to be doing the TBTL-a-thon from my parents' actual basement. And there was some leftover TBTL swag that APM didn't know what to do with. And so we asked that they ship it to my parents' house, which seemed like a great plan, as long as it's only three pallets that need to be forklifted off the truck.

Yeah, let's just do this now because let's marinate in this a little bit. Let's not skip past this because we've alluded to it once.

saying, oh, we think APM is going to be sending us some leftover stuff from previous TBTL-a-thons. But we didn't really – I don't think we mentioned the scope of it. And the scope of it is hilarious and frightening. I'm scared of a lot of things, so take that with a grain of salt. But APM was like, well, do you want us to send – like, we have a bunch of this and a bunch of that and mostly lunchboxes. There was some sort of, I think, mistake with the ordering back in the day. That's like seven years ago, right? And so we have tons of lunchboxes, which are all of a certain size, but a lot of dead space, right? Just by the very nature of it being a lunchbox. And we said, yeah, sure. Send it our way. I was like, I don't want that shit at my place. I believe it was your actual verbatim statement. You live in an apartment, so you can't store it. We're like, well, send it to Luke's parents' house. How much is it? It is three pallet loads. So when you say FedEx, we're talking about FedEx freight. I got a call from them the other day, and I was like, what? I couldn't tell what they said after FedEx, for real. I was like, what? And I Googled. I'm like, oh, you're calling from FedEx Freight because you're sending a semi truck, an 18-wheeler, to Luke's parents' house to probably use a forklift or some such to unload three pallets worth of years worth of TBTL-a-thon stuff.

I think it actually gets more complicated because I don't even think it's a FedEx truck. I think it's some vendor that FedEx partners with, which is where Helen comes in, Andrew. And Sandy? And Janie. You sent me an email the other day saying, hey, you're really doing so much for the transition. And I really appreciate all that.

Oh, all I'm doing is waiting for people to email me back, which they're not. Uh-oh. Libsyn problems.

I am singularly obsessed. Do I need to go up into the cloud and rattle some cages?

Where is Libsyn? Where even is a Libsyn? Yeah, where is it? You crawl up. It's kind of like Super Mario Brothers. You've got to find a vine. Anyway, I'll figure it out.

Okay, so you are doing so much for the big transition starting July 3rd when TBTL goes independent. I have done very minimal things to help out the project. But you did say, hey, since it's going to your parents' house, could you kind of ride herd on this delivery of 400 lunchboxes?

Because somebody's got to be there when they drop it off. They don't just drop this off on your porch, obviously. Then your house starts to tilt like ribs being delivered to Fred Flintstone.

Exactly. Exactly. Well, and I also wanted my dad to be there so he could direct this truck of whatever size it is to drop these three pallets or skids. I've recently learned they're interchangeable In a place in my parents' yard That's convenient for them In other words, I don't want them to come home And not be able to park their car Because all of their cars have Seahawks stickers On them for some reason, which is hilarious I don't think my dad has sat through an entire Seahawks game In his life But the culture is so strong In our family around Hawk Squad That he's caved And put massive amounts of When you see my parents' house when we're doing the show they have a sign that says seahawk parking only and my dad made it like this doesn't say gandalf parking only well he does have not all who wander are lost on his truck but anyway so i just i was hoping my parents could be there um or at least my dad could be there so that these pallets are not in an inconvenient place for them because they're sort of doing us a solid by even letting all this crap live at their house for a period of time so you said hey could you um like uh kind of just make sure this all happens i said sure you gave me the phone number you gave me the tracking number by the way it's actually called the pro number i've learned and the name of a person named helen so i called helen after the show this is a week ago and said hey um i am calling about this particular tracking number um and wondering when it might be delivered and helen said well we can actually deliver it tomorrow i said perfect let me check with my parents see if they're going to be around and i'll call you right back so she says okay call my folks they're like yeah we'll be here i call helen back she says okay here's the address and then reads me a totally wrong street like a street that is nowhere near where my parents live it's the right number of their house but it's the wrong street and i said oh actually that's not the street they live on it's this i gave him i gave helen the real address and she said oh okay well i have to put that back into the system and then find out if the delivery folks can actually deliver to that address and i thought i bet this i mean it was they had the right city they had the beginning of the the house number they just had the street wrong it's like if you got a semi-truck out i bet you it's going to be near them in silverdale like but anyway i said okay and so helen said but here's the thing it's probably going to be saying who calls you back tomorrow because i'm off tomorrow i said okay so um did not hear from them for like well until yesterday now there was an email that was sent around apparently went to somebody at apm you saw it i was probably cc'd on it no i did you i did not see that you referred

to that by the way the other day like that email that was sent to apm i do you know that for sure i think i i sent one from nick yeah but i from you that was from me i had sent nick an email where where i had basically in slack you know in in the communication system slack i had said hey luke just got off the phone with fedex here's what i know blah blah blah and i just kind of sent him a bunch of notes he then copied and pasted my slack notes into an email and circulated it there was nothing embarrassing in there but i told you later that it felt just like that i think the final sketch of season three of i think you should leave where they're just reading conversations in a courtroom setting and they're just like reading the transcript of colleagues talking it's like andrew said this that luke said this that sandy said this to luke who said this to helen he said that the hat looked good on him in the store like that's basically no one's ever been able to pull that off which i believe was my exact response to you on the text right so anyway that's not super interesting but just so you know if there's an email between them i ain't seen it all i know is i was translating between you and your conversation with the people on the phone and the folks at 8 p.m.

So yesterday, you and I had a conversation, I think, before the show, when you said, hey, can you see what's going on with this whole FedEx situation? And so when we wrapped the show, I was about to call them, and wouldn't you know it, my phone rang, and it was FedEx in Tacoma or something. Fife? Was it Fife? Very possibly. It was a 253 number. And the person on the phone said, hey, I'm with FedEx, and uh we like this person was at the home office i couldn't tell if it was helen or not it was a lady of helen's general age and demeanor uh and the person said hey uh can uh we we want to know can we deliver this these three pallets of stuff first of all they said is this american public media and i said no it's definitely not like they thought they were calling american public media and i said uh no but this is being sent from american public media they said can we deliver it tomorrow i said you know what let me call my parents once again and make sure they're

going to be home let me call my parents get their credit card number and then uh give you let me

call my parents to get a ride home from this right exactly i did feel slightly infantilized sure because it you know how do i why why do i have to take things into these places but like i love my parents dearly i'm not a person who's reliant on my parents and there are people there are people you know my age who are in certain ways reliant on their parents you know maybe for a variety of reasons I'm not one of those people and I probably keep it as some sort of point of pride which is not to say that if somebody is relying on their parents they should feel bad about that but like I'm not in the habit of talking to people on the phone going yeah you're dropping it off at my parents house it just kind of made me feel like a baby

we are by the way doing a week of podcast from your parents basement as we leave our jobs at or as

I call it La Enfant Plaza.

So anyway, yeah. So lean into the bid, I guess.

So I said, let me ask my parents if they'll be home. And the person on the line from FedEx said, sure. I said, I'll call you back. And they said, OK, make sure you say it's Luke Burbank because you're going to have a new pro number. But just tell them it's Luke Burbank. I said, OK. So I hang up, call my dad. He picks up on the first ring. I said, hey, can they bring the pallets over tomorrow? I said, yeah, no problem. I said, thank you. Love you. He said, love you, hung up, took about 12 seconds. I call back the FedEx number. Helen answers. I go, hey, this is Luke Burbank. I'm calling about this stuff that's going out to Silverdale. Helen is, it's as if this is the first she's ever heard of this. Helen says, well, what's the pro number? And I go, oh, I don't know the new pro number, but I can give you the old pro number because I have that in the email from Andrew. I give her the old pro number she goes That doesn't line up with anything I said well is the person I was just Talking to there she goes no she went Home for the day I'm like at 12 13 moments ago It was it was 40 seconds ago I was talking to you and we're not at a round Number we're not at like 3 p.m. We're like 12 O'clock and change you Exhausted this person is what happened And so you know what Andrew So I'm like uh well uh i don't know what to tell you can you see i go i go helen you were the person i talked to last week uh and she goes oh okay let me see if i can look into the the file she looks in the file and she's very confused she goes i'm not oh she goes oh i found it i go cool great she goes this is the this is the order that you guys are picking up from the loading dock right nope nope helen no and when i tell you that i came very close to losing my shit on helen only because there is no way that anybody associated with this project from our end you me our friend nick in minnesota no one at any level at any point said we're picking these pallets up from the loading dock that would never pass through our lips as words we would

say to fedex we do not have a tow motor we do not have a for thank you we don't have a we don't have

a um uh what's the uh other name for that kind of lift gate i want to say the andy man but i know that was the grill but there's no tommy lift oh okay okay we don't have a tommy lift we don't have we have none of those things and i'm not going to make walt be because you know what my dad is such a sweetheart he would do it if i said hey dad uh we have three pallets of lunch boxes it's at the um fedex loading dock in um fife he'd be like all right i'll go grab it like he would just do that and i was like you are not making my sainted father go to fife to get this shit and i had to i really i calmed myself down i did some box breaths which is you know four seconds in hold it for four seconds four seconds exhale wait four seconds four seconds in i box breathed and i said um helen uh the the order of events the chain of events was uh we um we're having this stuff shipped out from minnesota and uh we had the wrong address oh the other thing i left out the best part she goes this is going to and then she gave me the wrong address again i'm not andrew kidding you at all like she like went back to the original wrong address and i was like am i in a gadget car am i in a mr like inspector gadget can i hit like eject on my seat and fly out of this car right now and never come back um but uh she said so she goes well i can't i can't change the order because i don't have the right pro number she goes hold on a second and then she puts me on hold for what felt like kind of a long time and then she comes back and And she goes, okay, we got it worked out. And she gave me the correct address. She said, when do you want it delivered? I said, is tomorrow still an option? I just checked with my parents, who I live with. They said it's fine. And she said, oh, okay. She goes, God, thank God Jeannie was here. And I was like, didn't Jeannie leave? So Jeannie was the person you were talking to? Jeannie was just lurking somewhere. Like the first person who I had talked to yesterday, who was not Helen, There was a Genie, a Sandy, and a Helen. I dealt with all of them at one point or another. But yesterday, it was Genie who was supposedly gone at 12, 13, but then later it turned out was not gone and knew the new pro number, and today my parents are getting three pallets of lunchboxes. Wow, I want pics of this. The loading dock thing really sent me, though. It was just so outside of the bounds of any – I mean, the wrong address, like that happens. It's a typo. It's a keystroke. Look, the loading dock thing was – it was a real affront to, I think, humanity.

Oh, my – well, I'm glad to hear that everything is going to work out. Thank you for taking care of that. But, yeah, that does sound needlessly complicated.

Well, the thing that's interesting about it is this particular office, be it in Fife or wherever it is in the 253, is clearly staffed by some extremely well-intentioned but not particularly computer-savvy people. of a certain age and that is generally in my experience the best case scenario you call a place and it's a it's a helen a sandy and a genie and they're all very helpful and everybody there was very helpful but the i would say lack of facility with the computer system did prove to be challenging yeah sounds like it all right from one complaint to another let's take a break and we come back i was at a car dealership for like five hours yesterday andrew uh if not longer and um it was stressful so we'll talk about that after this short break hello and welcome to top story so i spent an unexpectedly long time at a car at a mazda dealership here in portland yesterday i was like hustling out after the show to go take my car and to have it serviced and also my lease is up like i've never leased a car before but the the previous car that i had was this audi that was like way too expensive and then exploded at the like 100 thousand mile mark like one hundred thousand and one miles so i was taking

Taking the car in just because it needed like the whatever, you know, $30,000, $300,000, I'm not good with numbers. It needed whatever service it was due for. But also my lease is up in like five months. And I'm trying to figure out what to do because I actually like this car. And my options were like lease to lease, which just would be, you know, lease a different car there. And there's all this weird stuff. They're like, well, you have equity in your car. I'm like, how do I have equity? Like I'm leasing this car from you. But I guess what they meant was the amount of money that I owed on the car, the car could sell for more than that. And that was a smart thing they said because my mind started spinning. I started Googling this exact car and going like, what's this selling for? How much equity have I built for me and my family in this Mazda that I've been leasing?

I'm always – this is – asking you to explain this to me is probably going to be a bad idea. But my dad, huge leaser of cars, huge leaser of cars. He and his brother, my uncle, they call him the Khaleesi. Bob, the Khaleesi Walsh. No, no, the Car-lease-ee. God damn it. I'm sorry, I was taking a sip of bubble water. The Car-lease-ee. The Car-lease-ee. The Car-lease-ee. I carried you to the top of Mount Doom so you could throw that ring in it. I hope you're happy. Frodo. I'm trying to think of a car. What's a car that starts with a D? He's the mother of Dotson's. He's the mother of Dotson's. The mother of Datsuns. Okay, so anyway. The Carleese. The Carleese, mother of Datsuns. Okay, I was going to ask you very briefly, can you remind me of the benefits of leasing as opposed to just buying and putting yourself on a payment plan? Are you saving money, or are you paying about the same monthly car price, but at the end of the day, you can easily just, like, kind of end that relationship and then start putting that money towards a nicer, another car that you're leasing? The theory goes. Another car.

Most people will just have a car payment for most of their life Yeah If you buy a new car, you're probably just making payments And so you can consider your car to be like rent Or to be like your mortgage Or to be like your cable bill Or anything else that you just pay X number of hundreds of dollars a month for It's just a cost of doing business And the upside of the lease is If the car explodes, it's not your problem And also, every three years you get a new fancier car or a shinier car so you're always kind of driving a nicer newer car because generally speaking cars are a depreciating asset and so um i mean before like the uh pandemic and the chip shortage where all of a sudden it was like an appreciating asset um but i think that's the theory behind leasing and again i had been so burned by like buying this very expensive audi and then having it you know completely combust right when it was out of the warranty window that i was like never again i was like i'm just going to lease a reasonable car and then if something happens to it it's not my problem uh that was kind of my mindset when i moved down here to portland and got this car but when they said you have some equity in the car i was like well well well because if in five months i were to just like hand them back the keys they would be getting this mazda i owed the amount that i owed on it was less than what you can um sell these cars for currently by about eight thousand dollars so if i were to just end the lease and just give them the keys back i would be basically giving them eight thousand dollars because theoretically they could turn around and sell the car for eight thousand dollars more than i owed on it if that makes sense so at least this was my logic so i went there yesterday and i had what's this kid's name again cooper trooper crosley the kid was named crosley okay and like the record player that's interesting that we were talking about record players yesterday and i was talking about the crosley this was a a auto sales person named crosley very nice kid 19 if he was a minute and it was like it was it was like sort of like talking to your shy nephew who you're trying to figure out like what what's your deal what are you into hey are you still doing marching band like you know you go to a family thing and you're trying to connect with your shy nephew and you decide to draw them out of their shell and let let them know that you come in peace and you're just you're doing a lot of the work in the conversation that was me and old crossley okay uh so i mean first of all we were supposed to meet on friday so last friday but i was like hey i can be there at about like one or something and he goes can you 12 i'm trying to go to this boat thing i love that don't you work on commission crossley

freaking love that i hope you don't know what the boat i mean that could be anything that could be he and his friends renting a hot tub boat that could be a boat show that could be him buying that is so open-ended I want to know no more than what you've told me.

And the good news is I don't know any more than I told you. They can torture me. I'll never tell because I don't know what the quote-unquote boat thing was. I got a boat thing. I know Crosley wanted me to be there at 1230 on Friday instead of 1. I just thought, like, you're going to go far in this business, Cros. I've got a boat thing. so anyway uh we we changed the appointment to yesterday brought the car in and all i wanted to know from old crossley was what is what will it cost me to just buy this car now to basically just pay for or finance the balance of this car so go from leasing it to owning it i got i get there crossley says hey i have this uh i have this mazda cx9 i'd love to show you i've got it right here for you and it was that's not my car my car was in the shop he was trying to get me into a different car but not even i think he may still have been remembering the boat thing he was still high on that experience it was very much like an older salesperson said here's what you do it was some real glenn gary glenn ron tonkin vibes which was you don't just let this person buy the rest of their car you get them an abs always be selling get them in the new cx9 and can i just put in here

they've already it was their words that convinced you to start thinking about buying the car that you own now or the that you're leasing now anyway so this is kind of like i mean depending on how how thought out this is already it's kind of like okay i'm ready to like end my lease or do whatever like well you could buy it there's some money in that car like okay i guess all right okay i'll do it I'll come in and buy the car it's like well actually have you seen this model over here it makes you younger it's a convertible like this is interesting but again if Crosley even had that

much commitment to the bit it was like somebody it was seriously like his heart was so not in it we walk outside I don't even want to look at this other car first of all a CX-9 is like the SUV of Mazdas and I have this little kind of I guess you'd call it a crossover I have a CX-5 which has you know four doors but it's pretty small I like the handling I enjoy the car I don't need the minivan of Mazdas and we're walking out there and I go well how is this different than my car and he goes not it's not really different it's just bigger I was like okay well let's go back inside then because what I want to know Crosley is how much is it going to cost me to buy the rest of this car and he goes okay let me go I'll go run some numbers so he brings back this sheet and it's just classic car shit andrew it reminds me of why everyone hates buying a car we probably have listeners who sell cars and maybe are if they like our show i'm guessing that they're like they sort of get it but he comes back with this sheet of paper and it's showing me these numbers of like what the car it will cost me to buy the car like my monthly payment if i go 72 months or 36 months or how much i put down this amount that amount and i'm like this is shocking this is like my payments going up what and then i look over at the side and it's like they're they're suggesting roughly eleven thousand dollars of add-ons like the undercoating the overcoating of a car you've already been driving of a car that i've been driving for three years well two years and like eight months or something it's like and i go what's all this stuff and he goes oh these are the things we recommend that you get and i go well can you bring back a different sheet that shows me what it will cost me with none of those things and he's like uh uh yeah and then he disappears by the way my phone is dying this whole time which is maybe actually two the phone dying was the tragedy the other weird thing was the writer chuck polonick from fight club was sitting right next to me in this in the waiting area of this mazda dealership oh is he a portland guy he's a portland and apparently a mazda enthusiast huh later i told cross i was like have you seen the movie fight club he goes yeah i go that's the guy that wrote it and crossley nearly lost his shit

wait a second though you've had him on live wire before right so you said hello i did not say hello oh that's interesting i just told crossley about it god i feel like that's i mean that could have been the segment i'm really burying the pollinic we've done we've done more with less we've done less with less um i have i mean that could have been a whole thing of you just deciding whether or not to say hello to pollen because like recognizing a famous person if i have no connection to them i think there's a very small chance either one of us are going to say hello to them um that's not how you and i navigate the world but this is somebody you've had a professional relationship with at least for one magic evening but he's one of those guests in fact it's the one example I can point to where I had to sort of like big dog the guest on stage just to kind of I think I vaguely remember this just to get him to play ball very obtuse which might just be his personality you know might

just be but it was like I was asking him questions this is we were doing the show at I think Revolution Hall here in Portland years ago and I was asking him questions you know just kind of like normal interview questions and he just kept sort of bending them around to he would give a an odd answer that wasn't particularly usable for us that also was often very sexual and it was just like i would in my mind i'm thinking we can't none of this is going to be usable like how do i get him

to give us eight minutes of usable content sexual like double entendre jokes or like dildo references

but like trying to be funny or it was i think it was an attempt at humor the truth the truth of the matter is and he explained this to me later and maybe this is why i should have gone and said hi to him he was like he emailed me after this and said hey i'm sorry i was being so weird i had a xanax and some red wine i was nervous i was you know and it kind of got on top of me um but it was the only time where i had to say to him hey chuck on stage hey chuck what would you like to

talk about uh-huh i think i remember that and you tell me there was what felt like an hour of silence

which i was probably 0.05 seconds and then he just shaped right up and then we got the interview and everything was fine i mean but that's a that was sort of my last memory of interacting with him so i didn't feel like um i guess dredging that back up or something although he did even the fact that

he emailed you and followed up i think that would have tilted me towards saying a quick hello but i guess you always you're already dealing with something anyway exactly and you're kind of running the risk of them not remembering you and then you have to be like okay well now i've got to explain remember like because he was on a book tour he's done many book tours he sat down on many a stage which is also kind of interesting too like you'd think somebody like him would be pretty comfortable in that scenario maybe not a lot of book tour stuff puts you on stage talking to a bunch of people live

it's really surprising to me how often the live audience aspect kind of throws or can throw a guest who is otherwise very used to being interviewed it is kind of a whole different thing but so Crosley brings back now three sheets of paper three sheets of paper outside of ebbing missouri um and i'm like okay what are these and he goes well uh this is with none of the add-ons that like you asked actually what he says is this is the one with all of the add-ons i was like okay we've already covered that this is the one with some of the add-ons and this is the one with none of the add-ons and i go let's focus on none of the add-ons and then i go i'm looking and i go okay let's do basically he was like i highly recommend you get the maintenance plan like just the oil change stuff and what i'm thinking in my mind is this is a total ripoff uh i'm sure like he goes then you don't have to go to jiffy lube i thought you know i've had good experiences with jiffy lube i can take a car to jiffy lube or maybe even

change my own oil when they try to upsell me it's like another 1999 for a right fuel pump or

something and it's like i'm just thinking to myself there's no way they're pushing this this hard on me it's like 1300 for the five years of the service plan the service plan just being regular maintenance not like we're gonna you know if the car blows up we'll fix it um and i'm like i know this is a bad deal for me because there's the only reason they're pushing it on me is because it's a bad deal for me it was a good deal for me they would not be pushing it on me yeah but i was also like i do kind of love not having to pay for the oil changes like it's kind of awesome to just like this particular dealership they call me a lift to uh send me home they're gonna call me a lift on a saturday by the way when my car is done more on that in a minute but like they're very like high touch if you will like you know what i mean like and it's a super they have free coffee and drinks and stuff and it's like a nice environment and i like going in there and just giving them my car and then getting it back they vacuum it out and i don't give them any money yeah like i enjoy that experience even though i'm probably overpaying for it sure okay and so i was like all right i'll do the maintenance i was like i'll do the oil change stuff so i circle this you know thing like of these of this like cross hatching of different like amount down apr how many months you're going to finance it for whatever and i circle this number i go like i want to do that number i want to do that amount down whatever he's like okay so he goes uh i'm gonna go uh i'll go run this uh by the uh finance people and see if we can get you approved i was like get me approved what are these numbers i've been looking at he goes these are just kind of rough estimates i'm like why are we why have we been talking about a rough estimate of what i can what this is going to cost me uh and then i said you know i actually need to go home and do some work i'm now an hour like two of being there i'm like i need to go home and do some work because i didn't bring my computer stupidly and uh and i'm like uh so why don't we i go here's the thing i'm gonna come back tomorrow and get my car at that time i thought my car would be ready today it's like i'm gonna come back tomorrow get my car i'm gonna take this sheet with me with all these numbers i'm gonna think on it i'm gonna pray on it and i'm probably gonna drink on it study it out and that's all you guys do is study it out and uh and then i'm gonna come back tomorrow and then we'll get this done and then crossley just straight up bamboozled me andrew he said well would you like to just at least do the dmv info for now so it's handled because i'm going from being the lessee of this vehicle to being the owner of this vehicle and there's various implications with the oregon department of motors or something so it's like yeah you know what let's knock that out that'll be in tomorrow when i come back and we do the finances it'll be like half you know half of the time it'll be easier So I'm he brings back DMV stuff I'm filling it out at one point they didn't Believe that I was myself They said we're getting an identity Confirmation note and then he hands Me a sheet of paper that's just asking me all These questions some of them trick questions

About my life is this because you have Something funny with your birth certificate and your last

Name right I think it's because I have This place in Portland that I rent and then I Have this home in Washington that I own that I'm Working on so I think there was some And my license is in Oregon but like the car the insurances and why and i think there was just some some weirdness but it's like okay i do the dmv stuff and then and which takes way too long hours literally hours and the whole time i'm sitting there andrew i'm listening to other car sales people do everything in their power to not let people leave this facility without buying a car this is making me so furious like the agita that i had sitting there listening to this i i like i i wanted to fight

someone like i was in a club you're not allowed to talk about that um i uh i feel like like i am putting myself in your position i just want to say to to boat boy like you are talking me out of this i i originally called because didn't this start with you just saying hey listen my lease is going to run out i'm going to lease another car that was your original frame of mind right Am I misrepresenting the beginning of the story?

Until they told me I had that equity.

Until they said, hey, you got equity. So the moment they started talking, you're like, okay, maybe, maybe. But like I'm kind of – I'm sort of distrustful, I think, when I start to feel like people are pushing me, especially when it's a realm that I don't understand. And it's easy to start making people feel like they don't understand something when, well, these numbers are estimates and this and here's three different things and the undercoat. And, like, the more you talk, the more I just want to walk out of here, go to a different company, and lease a goddamn car. I'm pretty hot under the collar right now.

Again, the thing that Crosley was doing, I think, unintentionally but very effectively, was being sort of so kind of checked out of the process that I didn't see it coming. I didn't realize I was getting Crosley'd because he just seemed so kind of in over his head. Like, I kept just being like, here's the thing that I want to do. And he'd be like, oh, yeah, tight. OK, well, like I was like, I am dealing with a person who probably in like 49 states couldn't be executed due to legal reasons. There's no way he's going to crossly me. There's no way I'm going to be like thinking I'm just signing up for the DMV stuff. The other thing was I was planning on buying this car. I had decided once I had done the like check to the car facts as it were and like looked at you know other the exact same car that I have literally does sell for $8,000 currently more than I owed on the car and doesn't have a ton of miles and I like the vehicle. I just want to keep it and it's just like so I kind of went in knowing like the ultimate thing is I'm just going to buy this car. I'm going to pay you know pay for the rest of this or finance the rest of this car. so i kind of knew where this was going but i also didn't want to be there all day and i wanted to kind of like look over the numbers and decide what made the most sense in terms of down payment things like that but crosley again was like stupid like a like a like a surfer like a surfer where he was just like well do you want to just at least do the dmv thing and i was like i already said this but i was like yeah okay that's you know that that makes sense we'll get that out of the way and again i'm listening to they really need to get some like i don't know offices or something at this dealership because everything that's going on is playing out right there in the lobby and i'm just listening to these families that are like hey we want to buy this car but this is going to be too much so we need to go home and think about it and then this other car sales person just being like just doing every single kind of like psychological tactic to like i can't well i I'd love to – I mean I can bring the car here on Friday. We don't have it in the inventory, but I can get it here. But how about – what's it going to take and i can knock it's just all of the stuff that you you know hear about and have experienced at a car dealership like why does it need to be so opaque like why does it have to be some kind of battle every time that you go in there so next thing you know i've done the dmv stuff and i'm like okay i'm ready to get out of here a different dude walks out sits down much more i have to be honest competent than crosley and he's like i'm the finance guy i just have to i just have to i'm obligated to tell you about the things that you're turning down so he's got these two sheets now we've gone from one sheet to three sheets to two sheets and on these two sheets are the things that i'm saying no to in terms of undercoating and overcoating and then he's done this very crafty thing which is on the other sheet he has what i've agreed to which is to buy this

car and to get the not free oil change but to pay for the oil changes and he's integrated in a thing that i was kind of considering which was like a warranty on the vehicle for the next like hundred thousand miles so like if the engine does blow up it would be covered if the air conditioning goes out like basically anything in the car that breaks they'll they'll pay for it and i had actually been thinking would that be some peace of mind for me after my really bad experience with the audi but i hadn't told them that so he comes out he's got two sheets of paper and on this other one he goes and here's what i'd like to propose to you you're you're right now you're committed to paying this number and he goes but for just buying down some points and for twelve dollars more a month you can have all of this and i'm looking at it and i'm on some level so pissed because i'm just getting like i'm just totally getting sales jobbed in job land where people's sales jobs on jobbies but i'm also like yeah but you know twelve dollars more a month is really not that much and i was kind of also thinking of doing that because it would make me more comfortable uh knowing that like if the something catastrophic happens with the cars functioning i don't have to pay for it having just been through that and so i'm just sitting there i'm like i am totally getting like sold to i'm i'm getting like they're doing exactly what they meant to do to me here and i am letting it happen and i ended up buying the the oil changes

and the maintenance i want to go sell my car just based on this story i'm so mad but here's the

problem though if i just go to some other place literally i have to give them this car back and then i have to buy a different car and i don't even have the like amount of money between you know i mean the quote-unquote equity on this car so i sort of was like there were moments where i was like maybe i'll just kind of you know bolt on this whole thing but it's like in four more months or five more months the lease is going to be up and i'm going to have to do something about this either give them a car at a discounted price and go buy it from someone else or take advantage of the fact that the car is actually still retaining value and just buy it and keep in mind the reason

why you were already tempted and and then decided to get this extra warranty thing is because you spent thousands you spent tens of thousand dollars on a car now a different maker that right after the warranty just blew up on you and like well we can always threaten you with giving you a car

that's going to blow up on you right well that's the thing these newer cars and this is like the car that i have is like a 2020 or something i believe as long as you keep the oil changed and you take reasonable care of them i think they run for a long time like the technology has gotten pretty good which is also why they're trying desperately to sell me a warranty yeah because people aren't buying as many cars and also because if there was a real chance that the i'm going to need two thousand dollars i think that's roughly what it was if i'm gonna need two thousand dollars of car repair in the next five years the the chances are slim that's why they want to sell me two thousand dollars of prepaid car repair yeah you know but i was it's sort of like having insurance for your pet yep yep it's like okay this is and you know also technically it's like transferable or something if i sold the car it could go with the car or something who knows but like it felt to me like you know this is something that is not going to increase the payment that much and it will be a nice feeling to know that if something unexpected happened with the engine i can just bring it in and they'll fix it also it comes with like roadside maintenance and all this stuff i was just like i guess i'm just paying to be less stressed or something but again i was mad because i was like this was supposed to be we're doing the dmv paperwork and all of a sudden i've now straight up bought this car yeah which also side note i couldn't drive home because there's some update that they need to do to the software but they

don't have anyone to do it until saturday they have to plug it into the mainframe they have to

unplug it and then wait 30 seconds and plug it back in right they don't have the guy who does that. He's not in until Saturday.

Can't they just hit the side of it, like the Fonz? Hey, the Coke comes out of it. What did I? Oh, you know what's interesting? Sorry, this is not, this just glides us right out of your story. That's fine.

I think the listeners have had enough.

You know, I've been watching Barry. I'm actually down.

Anyway, I'm a car owner now, Andrew. Congratulations.

That's what I meant to say. You know, I've been watching Barry. I'm down to like the last two episodes now. This last season has been, I mean, it's really, really, really gripping, moving show. But anyway, as we just mentioned, the Fonz, Henry Winkler is on the show, and he's an older man at this point. I don't know his exact age. I'm going to probably put him in his, what, 70s, 80s at this point, do you think, Winkler?

I'm guessing like mid-70s, but it's very youthful.

Yeah, very, and really, really great in the show, and also really great in a lot of roles, and it's interesting that he's not just going to be the Fonz, which was like literally an iconic character. 77, by the way. Okay, 77, yeah. so anyway uh my point is barry zuckerkorn yeah when we used to see him on arrested development like we're like oh wow second act for old henry winkler you know and he was like oh and not not that we obsessed over his age we're like oh look at old henry winkler the other day i don't know if i put it on if i walked in a room genevieve was watching it i have no idea but i saw a clip of henry winkler in arrested development and i was like wow look how young henry winkler is and And that is not saying that he looks bad now. He looks great in Barry and, again, kills it in Barry. Probably the best performance that I've ever seen him in, you know, across the series. So I'm not trying to age shame or anything like that, but it's just so funny how everything is relative because we thought it was so novel to see kind of the old Fonz in Arrested Development. And he looks like a goddamn child in Arrested Development now. A young Fonz. A young Fonz with his whole life in front of him. anyway yeah so that was uh that that was an aside but yeah that that's a very frustrating story that really does make me like i'm serious it's like i just hate i hate playing into people's into people's plans especially when they kind of they really hold you over it and i remember when genevieve and i we only did the the new car thing once i think every car we ever bought was from a colleague or craigslist or something along those lines and the car we have now we bought new um Genevieve does all of the work and research on that kind of stuff. She loves that stuff. I hate that stuff. I would just be riding a Schwinn around town if it were up to me. Not because I'm into biking. I'm just freaking lazy. Or I just, again, probably buy an old car from you or something. Like, whatever. So, you know, God bless her for doing that. Kind of Mazda CX-5 I'm trying to unload. But I remember we said, like, we are not. Actually, I'm trying to think. Maybe we dealt with dealerships. I think we bought maybe one of those, like, what do you call it? like when a dealership is selling a used car because they take a used car in and they give it like the manufacturer warranty or whatever because they fixed it up or whatever. Certified, a Honda certified. Maybe we actually, that was the beginning of this process. But like we had to tell each other every time we drove onto one of these lots, like we are not signing any paperwork today. And they are going to tell you that we have to sign paperwork. And they're going to say all this shit. Like, no, if you don't sign it right now, this is going out the door. This is the last of this. I mean, this is, John Voight drove this car. This is the last John Voight driven Volkswagen Golf or what have you. And we're just like, we had to tell ourselves no matter what they say, no matter what they say, we are walking out of there and we need to make that clear to them up front. Because like there is something about them every single time you walk into one of those little huts, they make it sound like, well, if you don't do this now, I mean, you're basically you're basically ending your life right now if you don't sign the bottom line. And it's just it's so manipulative. It infuriates me.

The crazy part was I was watching this happen to everyone else in there, not Chuck Palahniuk. I think he was just getting some service done. But like I was watching this happen to everybody else who was there while it was happening to me and somehow wasn't. And again, I don't think I got a bad deal per se, and I was going to buy the car. So it's like it isn't like I left in like a CX, like a cherry red CX nine with like, you know, racing seats or something. it isn't like i left in a car well i didn't leave in any car because again the guy's not there till saturday but like it isn't even like i i felt like i left the dealership being like what did i just do i did exactly what i planned to but i still it was like the water being turned up on the frog i'm the frog in this story andrew a lot of moles while i was watching all these other frogs get the water turned up on them and i was like those poor some bitches as the water was being turned

up on me by freaking crossley yeah crossley the boat kid i would yeah i wonder what he's doing on

the boat here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a female oh man

it's not from a female uh emails emails yes i'm gonna read you a john voight drove this car in

ray donovan that's what do you know why i said that by the way you know why i said john voight drove this car. It was a bit...

was a bit on Seinfeld I believe oh really I'd forgotten that there was some car okay I'm gonna

get a lot of this wrong right that's such a specific we are we are either very fortunate

or very unfortunate that Genevieve is not working from home today because I think every time I try to summarize a point in Seinfeld she comes barging through this door and telling me in all the different ways I'm wrong but here are here's what I think I know about the John Voight used car thing i think george buys a car and he's heavily influenced by the fact that the seller tells him that john voight once owned this car and then i believe the car becomes a problem because it reeks of bo and everybody who gets it and it's not the i don't know if it's implied that john voight had the bo or if the car just had something wrong with it and john voight never really owned it or whatever but george buys a car he believes john voight owned it but then the car turns sour on him and nobody wants to be in george's car because it smells like it smells like bo and george doesn't know uh what to do about that so hey john voight could you come pick me up from the rap battle luke do you remember a dazzling donor message we read from ian seafelt the other day and i want to again use this opportunity to mention that ian is holding a tens meetup on August 6th, 1 p.m. at Ursa Minor Brewing in Duluth, Minnesota. Who loves you, baby? So if you're in the Duluth area, the greater Duluth area, the tri-Duluth area, August 6th, 1 p.m. Ursa Minor Brewing. Couldn't you have chosen a date that a boy with a lisp could say? Anyway, as we were, that was his dazzling donor message, just trying to get people to come out to that. I think the problem is they all ended in TH. Except for first.

Oh, second.

But it's the S-T-H. I guess when you get to fourth. X-T-H is the problem. They're a sixth. I have problems. Didn't we just do this on the show the other day? There was some word where whenever there's an S and a T-H next to each other, it feels aggressive to me. It's like they're targeting me because they know I used to have a lisp and maybe still do. They're cyberbullying you to within an inch of your life. But you and I reminisced about meeting Ian in St. Paul at a meetup years ago. Were you copied on this email, too? Is that why you're groaning? I did. I saw the email. Oh, okay, cool. So because he was a dazzling donor, I want to get our facts straight here. He says, sharpshoot incoming, peace and love, peace and love. Just sending an email here. I'm not the postal worker that you met, but he was in my carpool, so it's understandable. So we thought that Ian was a postal worker. Ian is not a postal worker. And Ian definitely was not going to a Pokemon tournament. Ian is involved with Magic the Gathering, which I'll take the point on that one. I felt pretty strongly about that.

Ian, have you considered Pokemon? That's kind of my move. It's the gateway. If I say something, if I misidentify someone, if I say the wrong name, like, hey, Rick. And they're like, actually, it's John. I go, have you considered Rick?

That's kind of my go-to.

Ian, have you considered Pokemon?

Here's the other thing, Luke. I'm reaching over here. I said on the show the other day, I got a pile in my office here of boxes of things that listeners have sent in to us. And I mentioned, hey, maybe I'll bring this to the TB Telethon and we'll open them on the show during that week. But I think the chances are I will bring these boxes. We'll never end up touching them during the TB Telethon week. And then I need to bring them back here. So will you have you considered shipping them by FedEx freight? How many skids? How many skids do you have? Yeah, I mean skid marks. Oh, by the way, can I offer a correction on this? You can you can revel in the fact that I was very wrong about something that I was being all hoity toity about before. I don't know if I was being hoity toity. I bet you were. Skids and pallets are not technically the same thing. Oh, really? A pallet, so if you can pick, I mean, they look very similar, right? But a skid does not have, I'm trying to remember what the word was before, it does not have boards on the bottom. It has one or two boards on the bottom to secure it, but a pallet will be the same top and bottom. It'll have, like, a floor and a ceiling. Does that make sense? And why are you laughing at me?

My mom only agreed to this because she wanted the free pallets. I don't know if she's even going to get her pallets.

Oh, they're saying skids. No, no, no. They're basically the same thing. They were calling it skids. Okay, so it's basically going to be like, what, four less pieces of wood or something on each one? Can you picture what I'm saying? A skid is like a pallet without a floor, basically.

Right. But I guess, okay, so it's similar. It's basically, it's not the same thing, but it's similar. It's very similar, yeah. I said this on the show, but when I asked my parents, I was like, hey, could we drop this still have the stuff dropped off i go it's going to be on some pallets mom goes my mom goes do we

get to keep the pallets that's right we never even talked about that on the show yeah that was i think it was on the show was it okay that was the so we i guess we did mention that we were having pallets dropped off i didn't remember that but yeah i think that's very charming

my mom doesn't even get her free pallets

Well, she's going to get skids, which are very close, but let me just play this.

This is my box. This is my box. I never travel without my box. Oh, what's in the box? In the first drawer, I keep my magic stones. Oh, what's in the box? Licorice! Licorice! Blood, sweet, licorice! Blood, sweet, licorice!

If you'll allow me, Luke. Try some. I talked over the try some. I'm going to open this package from, it looks like the return address says, Listener Margaret. This is filled with that popcorn stuff. Do you call it popcorn, too? It's like a, it's the packing popcorn. Packing peanuts people sometimes call it. So this is all over the place. Yeah, packing peanuts. Peanuts. Is it even called popcorn? I think I just made that up. Can you even call it popcorn anymore? I think it's a skid. Hey, Luke and Andrew. I started listening to TBTL soon after my husband died in 2019. I'm sorry, Margaret. I came for the morning mail chatter, but I have stuck around for so many reasons, including the music shared by you and the listeners and Adelaide and DTFB. No, DFTB. Sorry, that would be David from The Basement. So many new songs and artists from TBTL have made my life easier, happier, and groovier. This is from somebody named Margaret. This is Margaret according to, it's signed M, but I'm going to go with Margaret according to the packing slip here. So, The Enclosed. My late husband was a record geek with a huge collection, and I'm in the process of selling most of it to fund our daughter's college-slash-young-adult launch years. However, I have enjoyed giving away these items from the collection to friends and family from time to time. When I saw this one, I knew it had to go in the box. What's in the box? Some summer party music and joy from listener Margaret in Ashland. There it is. And then signed M. If it's not Smothers Brothers, you're not interested. That's right. Smother me with the Smothers Brothers. Oh, it's a Weedle's Groove, Luke. Oh, that's good. Yes, it is. I watched this documentary kind of around the time I moved to Seattle. This is the actual Weedle's Groove boxed set. It's all 45s. Oh, we're going to fight over this. Well, I mean, this was to us. You know, my Japanese record player is on the way. according to ebay night no i should bring this yeah no i always get all i mean i always take

all this stuff and really that's not fair no you're managing you're managing the p.o box you're oh my god you know you're you deserve the stuff but maybe we can maybe i can have visitation

privileges so for those who don't know wheedle's groove was i guess it's kind of a collection that's curated by light in the attic records which is a local record label here that celebrates the I think like pretty, like before Weedle's groove, kind of the unsung, if you will, or maybe slightly little known funk and soul scene of Seattle in the 60s and 70s. You don't think of Seattle as a funky place. You think of grunge. You think of that sort of stuff. You think of Jimmy Hendrix.

Aren't they also kind of like, they're really good light in the attic about, you know, kind of uncovering gems. Like, remember that album Dreamin' Wild I was obsessed with, which was, like, those two brothers from, like, eastern Washington or Fruitland, Idaho or something, who basically, like, made this kind of, like, amazing record in, like, 1979 or something?

Yes. Okay, yeah, now I do remember. That was amazing, yeah.

And they also, I think, were kind of credited with finding that guy, Rodriguez, who, you know, they made the documentary Finding Sugar Man or something, who was like a guy, he was a dude from like Michigan or something. Searching for Sugar Man? Searching for Sugar Man? Maybe. And he had Searching for Bobby Sugar Man. I'm 90% sure Wallace Shawn wasn't in Searching for Bobby Fischer, but I feel like he should have been.

Oh, did you say that the other day?

No, I'm just thinking about Wallace Shawn for some reason. If he wasn't in searching for Bobby Fischer, it was a real missed opportunity. But the guy, Rodriguez, who had recorded a bunch of music and then kind of didn't think it was hitting and then just kind of went back to his regular life. And then it was like this huge thing in South Africa or something. And he goes there and he finds out he's basically a star in South Africa. So they find a lot of records like that that are just kind of like, you know, in the attic, as it were. So, yeah, just a big plug for them.

What I didn't realize, because I think I might have the Weedle's Groove soundtrack on CD or something that was released with the documentary, but what I'm looking at here, Luke, this is like a little record box that can hold 45s, and there is one CD in here and a beautiful booklet that goes along with it, but in the collection of, I'm going to say, about 10 45s in here, these are not reprints. It's interesting if they're all packaged beautifully in nice new envelopes, but they're actually just old 45s from this era, which makes this even more special. We got we got it like.

We got a groove together, Luke. We really do. I think this is right up your alley, and I actually do feel bad. How about we, like, maybe, like...

By the way, when Margaret's kid has to, you know, sort of live in a studio apartment versus a one-bedroom, I want her to know it was for a good cause. It was for Andrew to have Weedle's groove.

I got to give these back if that is the case. Margaret, make sure your child has my contact information. No, this is really, really sweet, and also knowing the connection to Margaret's life. I really can't thank you enough. Yeah, that is actually an honor of your late husband. Super thoughtful thing.

Thanks, Margaret. Yeah. That was really nice.

Very sweet.

You know what? I'm going to bring, if it arrives in time, I'm going to bring that record player that I'm getting. Because the whole point is it's portable. Yeah. I'm going to bring it to the Thon. Because what's going to happen is we're going to be broadcasting from my parents' basement. We're not going to be staying at my parents' house. So I'll bring it to where we are going to be staying, like in an Airbnb. be and maybe we can you can bring the Weedle's Groove. I'll bring the Weedle's Groove. We can groove. More of a groove. It's more of a groove. Alright, that is going to do it for today's episode of TBTL but I have great news. We're going to be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio for you so please do join us for that. In the meantime have a great Wednesday. Enjoy the first day of summer and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all. It's a little bit of a groove more than it is a rock beat. Power out.