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#3991 That's On Banh Mi
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#3991 That's On Banh Mi

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

July 19, 2023 | 01:16:58 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke and Andrew debate the merits of a Barbieheimer day vs. an Oppenbarbie day, as two huge summer movies are released in tandem this weekend. Plus, everyone's favorite California burger chain is forbidding its employees from wearing facemasks at work.
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Yeah. TBTL!

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Is this a thing people care about? No. Was my underwear showing when I was climbing down the tree? I wore my Thursdays because my Saturdays had a case of the Mondays, if you know what I mean.

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It's a meme-ish thing. I actually couldn't think of the word meme for a second. I could only think of the word dank, weird. I just want to use my muscles and my mind and be your number one guy using my muscles and my mind. I don't use foul language, and I don't like to hear anyone else use it either. Come on, is that even a celebrity? He's no Roy Donk, but he was a regular guest on the Colgate Hour.

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Stop talking. Get off the phone. And let's do this. Let's do this immediately. Let's go.

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Stay patient, people. Stay patient. This is going to be worth it. I promise. Maybe not. Maybe not. But it's worth it to me.

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All right. Hello. Good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Wednesday edition of TBTL. The show just might be too beautiful to live. It's called the internet, and it's a fresh new way to check out sites, buy clothing, and surf music. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

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You're still doing a podcast?

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Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where we are looking at a warm day here. Going to be pushing 90. I know... Mm-mm-mm. I'm flying in hot for that hottie. I know that's a pale shadow compared to what other folks are dealing with around the country, including down there in the southwest and other such places hope you all are doing okay uh speaking of um the you know i'm sure the statistically improbable thing known as climate change i got up this morning at about i don't know 1 a.m to use the bathroom and i thought that some part of my neighborhood was on fire because the bedroom area which was sealed off because of course i don't with the cat in there it was fine everything seemed normal but out in the bathroom in my living room there was there was like smoke i got a little worried and looked out i didn't see anything and then got up this morning and heard that there are fires up in southern washington state that have made their way down here along the columbia river right to my neighborhood in the hollywood district so um everything is fine everything is good here on this episode 3991 in collector series let the fun begin if i sound a little extra froggy today i think it's the smoke and i don't know just regular allergy stuff i did as that intro tape was playing sprint and i mean literally sprint to the bathroom to take a powerful drug cocktail of finasteride which is what i take it's my anti-balding pills and a zyrtec so i think we are i think we're going to be in good shape here on this wednesday uh we're going to bring you a round of qcb questionable corporate behavior i don't want to sell anything buy anything or process anything as a career a couple of companies doing some questionable stuff including in my opinion anyways questionable stuff including in and out um banning employees from wearing masks look at this face what do you see a lot of ways to interpret this and we'll we'll do some of them coming up um look at the in and outs financial and political donations which you may be shocked to hear where they've been giving money to oh and then uh nbc universal did something that a lot of folks think was a direct attempt to make it more difficult for the striking sag and wga members to pick it outside of their building i mean it's so rude i can't believe that that's it's so damn rude uh so we'll get into that too oh and we'll talk to this guy the longest-running cobro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace, their splendor, and all that intricate rigging. He is, as you know, a soulful rocker from New Hampshire. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

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Good morning, Luke. I got a photo from my dad just a minute ago.

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Okay.

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He's sitting down at home to enjoy a big sandwich from Jersey Mike's. Now, I'm new to the Jersey Mike's train. Yeah. Started trying some Jersey Mike's out after our local sandwich shop, Tubbs, left Seattle. And I started checking out Jersey Mike's. I was like, oh, this is pretty good. And I've been there maybe five times, maybe a little bit more. But let's just say five times for the sake of dignity. There's nothing undignified about going to Jersey Mike's. You didn't see the size of the sandwiches I ordered. and I

00:05:00 - 00:05:41 | Speaker 2:

I always got the same thing. And then I reach out to my dad. I'm like, you know, I'll bet you my dad's into Jersey Mike's if he's tried it. I sent him a note, I don't know, a couple months ago. Hey, Dad, you like Jersey Mike's? He's like, yeah, this is my order. Me and my father order almost the exact same thing, the exact same way. The only thing is I, of course, ask for my Italian without cheese. And then I ask for extra banana peppers. He asks for extra jalapeno peppers. But that's very close. That's very close. Everything else down the line, exactly the same. I mean, I'm telling you, the giant Subway sandwich doesn't fall from far. Wait, it's not a Subway. It's a submarine sandwich.

00:05:41 - 00:05:51 | Speaker 1:

Subway is the brand. I messed that up. Doctors Associates have really co-opted that in our mind. They've tried to become the Kleenex of sandwiches. To where now we call it a Subway, even though you're right, it's a sub sandwich.

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Yeah, what did you just say, though? Did you say Doctor Associates?

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The owners of Subway, it's a company called Doctors Associates.

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It is? Oh, I didn't know that.

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Have we talked about that on the show, and I already just blanked it out? A long time ago. It's come up before. I think it's a very weird name for, like, an ownership group. I think Subway started as some kind of, you know, it was like a sandwich shop somewhere, I want to say, in the Northeast.

00:06:16 - 00:06:28 | Speaker 2:

I want to say West Coast, because didn't they release a bunch of commercials that were, like, celebrating their history? And I thought it was like a Southern California sandwich shop where people were, like, surfing. Let me look it up.

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I don't, it's very possible, but I've only, I think I've had one Jersey Mike, and that was just a guy I met at a truck stop, no, I think I've only been to Jersey Mikes once in my life, it was in Bend, Oregon, Bend, Oregon, which is mostly famous for having the last blockbuster in America, I was out there on a little fun trip with Becca and her brother and sister-in-law, and we had been out snowshoeing all day, And the thing that I've learned about hanging out with this crew of people is that because they're all like runners and they all, as the term goes these days, eat clean mostly. That is to say just like, you know, pretty much eat whole foods. Food is not for them the center of their life. i.e. you really like i have to make sure i'm either bringing food or the food plan is very much accounted for because these are people that will wait until 10 o'clock at night to eat dinner because it slipped everyone's mind it never slips my mind to eat dinner so we were out snowshoeing in ben we had gone to this airbnb now this is on me because i also was capable of buying groceries but we were at this airbnb where we realized no one had brought any really anything to eat like which often as when you get an airbnb for the weekend that whole event is let's go to the grocery store even like you me and uh sklarov when we were doing the the thon we went to the grocery store vives came over we went shopping it's like part of the deal i went to the grocery

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store like four times in a five-day period but that's also me and so i was again i had every

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ability to impact the situation what it is is i'm used to other people dealing with stuff that i should be dealing with i don't know if this rings any bells for you as my as the co-owner of this business with me but um i was like there's just no we know there's no food here so anyway after snowshoeing i'm like we're gonna get dinner but i'm like uh it's you know 3 30 i'm famished dinner's not until whenever let's get some food and everyone's like no we're not really hungry

00:08:27 - 00:08:33 | Speaker 2:

i was like just drop me at the jersey mics drop me a block away from the jersey mics just give

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me my snowshoe i'll snowshoe to the goddamn jersey mics so i go to the jersey that was a good jersey

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mikes then you're super hungry after a day of when i tell you but this is what happened i i got i got

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like a foot long which you know i'll do on my own all the time but i'm like you and that maybe around other people that seems like do we need an entire well they have whatever they're big like i get a

00:08:56 - 00:09:18 | Speaker 2:

foot long at subway i don't even think twice about it of course i get a foot long but then at jersey mikes they have something that is so huge the first time i got it i ate three quarters of it But really, it's like two sandwiches in one. Whatever their biggest one, I believe, is well beyond a foot at this point. I don't know. Do you think you got the biggest one on the menu? I don't think so. No, no. I didn't get like the whatever, the Gigantosaurus.

00:09:19 - 00:09:28 | Speaker 1:

The Gigantosaurus Pete. No, Mike, whatever his name is. I think the founder of Subway was literally named Pete. I don't know why that is in my mind.

00:09:29 - 00:10:01 | Speaker 2:

I mean, you're right. Well, it was founded by Fred DeLuca and financed by Peter Buck, not the guy from R.E.M. Are we sure? And it was called Pete's Super Submarines. So that's where you're getting that name. And by the way, not to be super aggressive about this, but I think you sort of owe me an apology because I was absolutely right. It was founded in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Famously, Southern California's Bridgeport, Connecticut. So pitted. Surf community. You got sea otters stealing surfboards. Cowabunga, dude. Cowabunga Connecticut

00:10:01 - 00:10:53 | Speaker 1:

That's what they used to call it That was Bridgeport's slogan for many years Was Bridgeport Cowabunga Dude Exactly So anyway here's what happened I get the sandwich I'm like eating it at the Airbnb I'm like god this is just exactly what I needed You're right this is like the best sandwich I've ever had in my life And I don't know There was like half of it left or something That's the other thing I leave no sandwich behind Andrew If I get a whatever size sandwich from Jersey Mike's I'm not I'm not going to not finish it but I but I had half of it was still left and I said does anybody want a bite of this and what I noticed was Tiffany came over and had a bite she's like that's delicious I was like yeah Scott tried some Becca tried some everyone wanted some of this damn sandwich and I was like there's a there's a Jersey Mike's a mere 40 minute snowshoeing from here that we could have all gotten so you

00:10:53 - 00:10:55 | Speaker 2:

you went on a solo mission and then

00:10:55 - 00:11:36 | Speaker 1:

brought it back no no they just literally parked the car in the I'm over we legitimately were snowshoeing but at that time the streets of bend were bare and dry you could drive around as we were and they no one even came into the jersey mics with me oh it was like they parked they waited in the car i went into the jersey mic solo got my sandwich came back out started eating the chips in the car because i was that hungry got home ate what wolfed down my sandwich and a part of my sandwich and then everyone else was like oh this is really good i was like yeah i told you you should have come into jersey people are just taking bites of your sandwich not in it like i don't want to overstate it and also they might hear this so i it wasn't

00:11:36 - 00:11:41 | Speaker 2:

let me exaggerate for the sake of the show don't worry about your reputation but like um i just it

00:11:41 - 00:12:20 | Speaker 1:

that was when i learned that day andrew was when i learned i needed to when i'm hanging out with this crew i need to i need to you know it's like on the airplane when the oxygen mask comes down i need to put my oxygen mask on first um now what's also funny is whenever we hang out together which is a lot, this group of people. And there's food that's ordered. Like they have, Scott and Tiff have this really amazing home and they have this really great swimming pool. And in the summertime, that's the place to be. And they'll have get-togethers and they'll like sometimes order a bunch of, you know, like tacos from a taco truck. Or there'll just be a spread and Tiff will go, see, we do get food. And I'm like, yes, because of my admonishing you.

00:12:20 - 00:12:35 | Speaker 2:

I was going to say, I mean, maybe the solution here is, and again, I'm going to exaggerate here and make these nice people sound like absolute animals just because i kind of like making making you cringe a little bit um but i think next time you you got to buy like a distraction sandwich and like throw it in the

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corner so then they get all like you're trying to collect for the north central outlook at a house

00:12:42 - 00:12:54 | Speaker 2:

with a with a kind of scary dog you just throw it over there and then run to the front you just have a raw steak like in the cartoons yeah exactly uh do you remember what you got no because i don't

00:12:54 - 00:13:52 | Speaker 1:

have a go-to there now i definitely have a subway go-to that i've been kind of leaning into i told you i went to the subway that to me indicated the the um late stages of capitalism um which was in a pilot which pilot is like a just one of those truck stops basically or just like a really really big gas station that's got like restaurants in the in the mini mart area and what i get is i get a foot-long veggie i have them tear the bread out not because of any carbohydrate considerations but just because i don't like a sandwich where and i've i've been very public about this i don't like a sandwich where the bread to whatever else is in their ratio is out of whack and i feel like that's something that's happened in this country along with wokeness it's been a slow drift towards having a lot of bread and i i like there to be minimal bread and maximal filling um which i do think is kind of an east coast of vibe but anyway so i haven't yet you are the

00:13:52 - 00:13:55 | Speaker 2:

opposite with hot dogs though right you want as much bread oh yes no no no you're totally right

00:13:55 - 00:15:01 | Speaker 1:

i don't want as much bread here's what i don't i don't want a hot dog the roughly the width of a louisville the handle of a louisville slugger like i don't want there to be you know you make a good point i i what i would like is for for the hot dog to just be a standard size hot dog not like a king dog or whatever they call now a soho dog standard size hot dog and standard size bun that would be my dream but when it comes to the sandwich stuff i like that the bread to be very minimal and then it just to be bursting with all kinds of uh you know veggies and so i get the veggie thing i get extra cheese which is which is really except uh excessive because it already has extra cheese supposedly now that was another thing i wanted to take up with this gal at the pilot but i didn't because i felt like she was doing her best i told you they didn't have lettuce they didn't have there was something else they didn't have tomatoes and also there was no ice in the fountain drink machine so other than that it was going well and the other thing was at every other subway I've ever been to including the time you and I went in Australia do you remember when we had Subway in Straya and how freaking good that was wasn't that

00:15:00 - 00:15:29 | Speaker 2:

in a was that in a gas station as well somewhere i think we were gassing up yeah i think it was like there was one or two tables kind of in a gas station yeah i'm yeah actually it's it's coming back to me more now i that's right because i believe you were pleased that the um person behind the counter was uh actually intrigued by the fact that we were from the united states i feel like you felt i was finally getting we were not getting enough of that you were like come on I'm an American here. I'm a fish out of water, and nobody's making any note of it.

00:15:29 - 00:16:53 | Speaker 1:

I mean, I definitely felt like when we were in the Northern Territory, we were in the literal outback of Australia, and we're going to places where the population is 20 people, and no one bats an ear when we're ordering in the gas station. I mean, come on. We are kind of special. But no, that Subway sandwich was delicious, and I give doctors, associates their credit for consistency. That sandwich in Australia tasted exactly like a Subway sandwich that you would get anywhere in the States. But anyway, all that is to say, that's my order is a... Oh, even in Australia, they give you, when you get the veggie sandwich, the default is it comes with extra cheese because I don't think it's cheaper than one of their meat-filled sandwiches. So they give you extra cheese, probably because they know, let's be honest, these veggies, they're only so-so. So we're going to double up on the cheese. The cheese has now become the protein in the sandwich. And so you don't even have to order extra cheese. It just comes with extra cheese. I usually get extra, extra cheese. But at this one that I was at in the pilot outside of Salem, Oregon, the gal said, I go, this comes with extra cheese, right? She goes, nope. And I thought, I need to report you up to corporate because I didn't. I'm just reporting it here now. But I was like, listen, my friend, I've been to many a Subway, and I've ordered many a veggie sandwich, and this is the first time. And I've done this on multiple continents now, that the default hasn't been extra cheese.

00:16:53 - 00:16:59 | Speaker 2:

different rules pilot though you know it's like it's um it's kind of autonomous land i don't know

00:16:59 - 00:17:04 | Speaker 1:

it is it is she was a sovereign citizen not unlike that guy at the tsa who didn't confiscate

00:17:04 - 00:17:21 | Speaker 2:

my money that one time exactly that reminds me oh yeah i did send you something and in fact something that you just said sort of reminded me of something that would sort of segue into it yeah i was doing um a podcast i was doing another podcast yesterday luke andrew i don't ask that

00:17:21 - 00:17:27 | Speaker 1:

Listen, you get to do whatever you want. I ask you not flaunt it. You don't rub my face in it.

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I know, I know. I'm trying to think. Oh, I can't find it here because this was not the commercial that I'm about to raise here is not a commercial that I actually found on a VHS tape and digitized, which is a hobby of mine, which we'll get more into in a second. But I did come across a commercial yesterday for something called Casey's General Store. Oh, sure.

00:17:48 - 00:18:17 | Speaker 1:

You and I have been to a Casey's together. We have? When we hitchhiked, when we were dropped off in Denver, Iowa, by one Nora McInerney, and I believe also a Stubot, we got off the freeway. We were standing in a certain area, and we were getting no love. So we walked about a quarter mile down the road, and we stood near a Casey's, and then got picked up by a 19-year-old girl in a Jeep. And I think our advice to her was never, ever pick up hitchhikers again.

00:18:17 - 00:19:05 | Speaker 2:

Yes, exactly. I still follow her on Instagram, by the way. I'm serious. It's like it's a little bit weird because she's like a young woman who posts like a lot of photos of herself and her friends, sometimes in bikinis and whatnot. And I'm kind of like, you know, if anybody was ever looking over my shoulder on the bus as I'm quickly scrolling through Instagram, they might be like, huh, that guy follows his daughter on Instagram or something like that. But that was a Casey's. We were near a Casey's. I see, but I honestly can't, I've said this before on the show, like in my defense, I just feel like this is a kid who now, like a while ago, when she had just gotten her license, picked us up as hitchhikers, like if I stop following her, I will never go back and find her again, and it's just like every time I see one of the posts, I'm like, oh, that's the kid who picked us up when we were hitchhiking, and we said, thank you, don't do this, thank you, don't do this.

00:19:05 - 00:19:23 | Speaker 1:

her name but she was i mean first of all we really did need a ride i believe she gave us a ride to the casino in waterloo iowa where we stayed the night yes um and uh but anyway um uh so that was my point is all that is to say is that we have we were at a casey's okay anyway well i i you know

00:19:23 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 2:

on the show yesterday i i had said that i had never heard of it it was a kind of a goofy commercial where a guy is in line at a uh like some sort of fast food restaurant and like a you know a drive through line and he's waiting for breakfast and then a weirdly a guy on a on a horse a cowboy on a horse walks up to him or rides up to him and just says follow me to casey's general store where you can get uh breakfast and not wait in this long line and casey general store basically seems like kind of a just a big gas station kind of store and the first food that they offered in this commercial was try our beer cheese breakfast pizza oh and it's that is

00:20:00 - 00:20:08 | Speaker 3:

It's one of the fastest breakfasts in the Midwest. I'm like, that is not, I don't know, that is not going to make you fast if you're sitting down to a beer cheese breakfast pizza.

00:20:08 - 00:20:19 | Speaker 2:

Tell you what, yeah, I mean, I don't know at what speed it moves through you, but I would definitely try to find the out-of-the-way staff bathroom after you start your day with a beer cheese pizza.

00:20:20 - 00:23:18 | Speaker 3:

Jeez Louise, who said, like, well, we need a breakfast pizza at the gas station. Okay, well, it better be beer cheese because nothing says breakfast like beer cheese. But anyway, that was just the show that I did with Genevieve yesterday. And then after we got done recording, I'm like, you know what? I'm going to dig back into my VHS project. And again, I've talked about this a lot on the show. But for all the new listeners who have been joining us lately, I found a box of old VHS tapes at a garage sale. And I bought myself a VCR. And my favorite thing is now just to sit here and just meticulously archive, log, and digitize these things and then upload them all to YouTube. And one, and I don't know if you've already clicked on this, Luke, but I've been telling you for a while that a lot of the tapes in this particular box I picked up at this one particular garage sale last year, the people in the 90s who were taping things off a TV in this particular home were obsessed with several things, one of them being the nascent FX network at the time. And it was very different than what you think of FX as being now. It was kind of like an MTV vibe. This is like mid-90s. It was like kind of like an MTV vibe with the kind of camera work and attitude, only they didn't play music. They had shows called Breakfast Time, which was kind of like a morning kind of general interest show. Then Personal FX, which was like an antiques roadshow ripoff. But like I've always described this to you, Luke, as like they had a set that was basically a big ass house or a set that was made up to look like a big ass house with various rooms, including a bedroom, an exercise room, a bathroom. And then people would do different segments from different rooms throughout this house. Well, yesterday I stumbled on a 30-second, actually this might be a 60-second promo for something that this FX network in this incarnation was promoting. And it was from 1995, and I can tell you it was probably March of 1995 because it was a promo for their upcoming Oscars coverage, Academy Awards coverage. but it was the whole thing about fx back then was like interactivity it was just like you know you run this network email us like email was brand new like literally they would give out an email that i think was at comcast.com or something like that for a network for fx you could fax in your stuff you could call you could write into their p.o box but they were always like really hammering like viewer interaction you know it was kind of that era when that stuff they were taking advantage of new technologies and so this commercial is we want your oscar predictions but this has everything for someone like me who might be going through a tiny midlife crisis and is obsessed with nostalgia because even though i didn't know about this incarnation of x fx all the cultural references in here are super hilarious and i sent you the link so you can watch along luke and maybe just you know describe what you're seeing if you want um but it's it kind encapsulates that idea of what the set was like what the vibe of the show was like and I'm going to play the audio here and I just think it's so interesting too because they're talking about a

00:23:18 - 00:23:28 | Speaker 3:

bunch of movies that all came out in 1995 and making predictions about who will win so what you're about to see is like kind of a bunch of clips of people in this cast of characters sort

00:23:28 - 00:23:54 | Speaker 2:

of interacting I'm I just have the first little you know part of the video up now on YouTube and what I'm struck by is I didn't realize Jeff Probst was one of those people yes I was trying current survivor host and friend of the program oh that's right because this has come up because he left the voicemail for ad he was a guest and he was was very nice and left this nice special personal message to my daughter who at the time was a big survivor fan yeah and so this was that

00:23:54 - 00:24:23 | Speaker 3:

that particular show and again it was kind of like mtv where like he and this canadian broadcaster and i can't think of her name they were co-hosts of the morning show called breakfast time but also they were just sort of the stars of the network so they would do you know show you know they're kind of the um what do you call it the flagship i think so they would also sort of helm stuff like this so you see clips of the show but then you also it's intercut with people in different rooms including like this woman on a on a on a exercise bicycle in the exercise room just talking about

00:24:23 - 00:24:59 | Speaker 1:

forrest gump take a listen to this we know what's on your mind right now definitely what what you talk about at home in the office at the gym my name is forrest forrest gump so just tell Plus, two words, Shawshank Redemption. And we'll tell the world. And the envelope, please. It's FX's Oscar Predictions with you in mind. Send FX your 1995 Oscar picks for Best Actor, Actress, Song, Movie, and Supporting Players. Fax your Oscar predictions to FX at 212-802-0002. Or write to FX Oscar Predictions, P.O. Box 824, Madison Square Station, New York, New York, 10159-0824. All this week, we'll read your Oscar picks on the air.

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the world know who's got your vote we'll also be keeping score on our fx tote board to see who's

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ahead in our fx prediction poll then on tuesday the day after oscar night so complicated the real results this week we're taking calls about health care right if this is the pre-recorded call-in show against the real results so keep watching fx tv and oscar predictions with you in mind. P.S. Pulp Fiction

00:25:28 - 00:25:40 | Speaker 2:

is going to sweep. I don't think Pulp Fiction swept. Oh, and then at the end it says brought to you by Herbal Essences, and I'm just kind of like, could it be more 1995? Could it possibly be more 1995? That's

00:25:40 - 00:26:26 | Speaker 1:

amazing. I mean, this is what I said the last time this show came up and we were talking about clips from it. I actually I mean, I agree with you. This promo is way too complicated of I wonder what the participation rate was amongst the viewers because if it's like mail in your if you wanted to treat like march madness and you wanted to say like hey mail in your your picks for the oscars and we're going to pick one winner and they're going to get an all expenses paid trip to hollywood i could see a lot of people sending in their picks but this just sounds like there's multiple levels to it they also have people i mean the woman on the on the exercise bike is just saying i'm forrest gump like she's not like it's it feels like there's a lot of concepts going on a part of it people are saying lines from movies other parts again there's something happening the day after the

00:26:26 - 00:26:37 | Speaker 2:

Oscars like it's it's overly complicated they compare your results with the real results but if you are trying to imply about elder care exactly last Wednesday

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I think it's fairly implied that like they're not gonna know how well you did until the Oscars right so I don't think you need to clarify that on Tuesday after the Oscars or whatever that being said I don't think this whole thing was a terrible concept for a tv network and i don't think the set is a bad idea at all dude the first

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time i came across this i had no knowledge it was the very first tape i put in of a box of i'm going to say like 30 tapes or something and it was basically the breakfast time episode you know again kind of the flagship of this network that would have aired i believe on new year's day 1995 or 1996 and so basically it was a clip show because it was a holiday they wanted to keep breakfast time on the air but they had pre-recorded like kind of a best of the year and they had their you know this package from our roving reporter who decided to skydive or whatever it was just kind of a weird show where they did weird things and i watched the like probably an a three-hour long clip show of this program i was just discovering and i thought of you the whole time because first of all you're never far from my mind but also because i was like luke and i could just talk about the format of the show for days like there is something i mean again it's like it's so corny and cheesy and the weird angles but like also it is kind of a it's like mtv meets david letterman sort of they almost did stupid human tricks only it was like they would tie it to actually some sort of science thing it was somewhat educational without being corny about it Like it was really and it was ultra conversational. And like while they're like trying to get people to fax in and email in at a Comcast address and all this, sometimes you would actually see a team of people sitting around a literal dining table. And those were all the producers going through your notes as they're preparing them to walk them over to the living room. And then they'll hand them to Bergeron. What's the guy's name? Tom Bergeron. Tom Bergeron. And then he'll read them like it really was like they were kind of doing it right for the for the era, given the tools that they had, like total transparency. you could just see everybody wandering around on the set well it's smart too because i would say

00:28:45 - 00:29:27 | Speaker 1:

this was probably around the sort of apotheosis of the real world so you know younger people and this i'm i could imagine that the way this was pitched was it's like the real world but they're doing the news or it's like the real world but they're doing pop culture because the the the the set has again it's pretty 90s and i think the real world maybe late 80s early 90s was maybe it's high point but like it's the idea of like there's all these folks and they kind of live in this house and like we're going to go into the kitchen and so and so is going to like tell us some cooking tips and then in over in the living room tom bergeron is going to interview a a very dyspeptic elliot smith and then we might head over to the workout room we're going to get some tips

00:29:27 - 00:29:38 | Speaker 2:

like this and there's a puppet for some reason there's also like a disgusting sock puppet that will crudely also jump in on conversations inexplicably i feel like that was a note from

00:29:38 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 1:

the network that everybody on the show probably hated there's probably one person probably whoever had the the who is the highest level person at the network was like but what about a puppet like they've gotten the concept completely dialed in they felt sort of comfortable with it people kind of knew their roles they liked it but somebody who you couldn't say no to said and then also there should be a puppet some coked up executive Yeah.

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permanent midnight and said i need that for my show or the weird sitcom where bobcat goldquake

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played a puppet that lived on a couch what was with that era like why was everybody throwing

00:30:11 - 00:31:16 | Speaker 2:

dirty puppets into their cast because you know trends being what they are i guess that was uh that was the trend speaking of trends andrew um i found out about something yesterday that has me uh quite intrigued and this is not the kind of thing that i would usually be intrigued by but I told you that we're doing this training stuff for Livewire with some folks from our distributor, PRX, Steph and Mike. And they've traveled to Portland. I was there yesterday. It turns out they've been some very sharp individuals. I went from yesterday from slightly dreading this just because I don't like five-hour-long meetings to being like, wow, these are very smart people who put a lot of thought. Like, they had interviewed LiveWire listeners, like, you know, had done these very thorough interviews with folks to kind of get a sense of who listens to the show and how can we super serve them, et cetera. But Steph mentioned something that was called OppenBarbie. This was not during the meeting. This was while we were all getting lunch. And are you familiar with the OppenBarbie concept?

00:31:17 - 00:31:24 | Speaker 1:

I mean, just as like the memes and stuff about these two things coming out on the same day and everybody's kind of mashing the two things up into memes.

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Well, I guess. Yes. See, I didn't realize they were coming out on the same day. All I we were talking about the Barbie movie and how I said basically to them what I've been saying to you, which is I typically for me, a movie about Barbie wouldn't be of great interest. But because it's made by Greta Gerwig, who I really love, I'm intrigued by the movie. but it's also a cultural it's already a freaking cultural phenomenon and Steph said well are you going to do Oppenbarbie and I was like what's that she goes it's a whole day plan where you meet your friends um in the morning you get a little brunch you go see the movie Oppenheimer then you go get lunch afterwards you discuss the important uh topic of of nuclear war and then you um and then you go to like an afternoon happy hour and you have a few drinks and then you go to the Barbie movie oh and then the rest and then you watch the barbie movie so you kind of like you watch oppenheimer and barbie in the same day and you have the oppenheimer part is a little obviously for obvious reasons a little more somber it's not like a boozy oppenheimer thing but then once you've watched oppenheimer once you've had a really um you know in interested engaged conversation about nuclear proliferation uh with your friends then you shift into the barbie movie mode and then it's fun fun fun till your daddy takes the t-bird away or whatever that i mean that makes sense to

00:32:43 - 00:33:17 | Speaker 1:

me in that order but and so i'm not i'm not trying to argue how people should open their barbies don't rain on my parade but i would like me personally and this probably speaks to my kind of taste in these things like i would flip that personally if it was just me and i wasn't with a big group of friends yeah a daytime showing you go see a silly movie in the daytime and it's barbie whatever and then at night you go in and you sit down to the more serious christopher nolan oppenheimer thing and like i would much rather like that's a darker movie i'd rather come out of the theater and it's dark outside as opposed to like coming out of oppenheimer and it's like

00:33:17 - 00:34:09 | Speaker 2:

daylight see to me and this probably tells you about my complicated relationship with alcohol i feel like i wanted like i don't want to i'm not saying i want to get the oppenheimer over with But I want to watch Oppenheimer when I have all my faculties, when it's kind of business hours, when it's still between the hours of nine to five, while my friends all still have their wits about them. Then we have an interesting conversation about the film that we just saw. Then it's time to put on my, you know, my pink, you know, jumpsuit from Wild Fang and go crazy on the Barbie tip. Like, for me, it's like I always want the – I always want – if I start the thunder rolling, I always want the most, like, casual part of the event to be happening last so I can kind of get through the serious part and then just cut loose. I would feel like I couldn't cut loose when I had Oppenheimer on for the evening part of the schedule.

00:34:10 - 00:34:40 | Speaker 1:

Are you just sort of saying it this way or implying this purposefully that, like, brunch drinks and whatever would be part of this? Because for me, like I have no as much as I enjoy my beers, I like I never have any desire to mix imbibing with movie going. They're like such two different things to me. Even if you go to one of the theaters where people are like, hey, you can get a beer here. I'm like, yeah, that's not what I do in this place. Right. In this place, even beers aren't good to Andrew. I like, you know, like I love it.

00:34:40 - 00:34:44 | Speaker 2:

Somehow in this place, Andrew's liver gets a momentary break.

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Somehow in this place, Andrew doesn't have a problem. I just love a big, you know, like I'll, I'll devour two tubs of popcorn and my, I guess a Barbieheimer, I guess for me, if I'm doing it in that order and I have seen it, I have seen it that way as well. Oh, okay. Yeah, no.

00:35:00 - 00:35:31 | Speaker 2:

I think Oppenbarbie is the more mainstream one, but I have seen some Barbieheimer. But anyway, because for me, it's just like I'm just going to go in and, you know, and like I'll have my beers after Oppenheimer as I'm chewing on that on that movie. But like for me, the day is kind of like it's bright. It's sunny. I got my popcorn. I got my soda. I'm going to laugh with Barbie, maybe go get some lunch, talk about it and then gear up for the night showing again. I mean, this is just a matter of opinion. And I can't really argue that my way is right. I think probably most people would fall in line with you.

00:35:32 - 00:36:42 | Speaker 1:

I'm with you, though, that because, again, not unlike the emotional trauma and really financial trauma that the BMG Columbia House company put on me and people of my generation that we were talking about the other day. I think it's also somewhat. Well, I'm going to go out on a limb here and see. I think it's I think drinking at movie theaters is a little bit generational in that I think your generation and mine, it was not an option. I mean, I guess you could sneak alcohol in. But like the fun of the movie, like you said, is you go, you get the milk duds, you get the pot, whatever your deal is, and then you watch the movie. That was really how we were raised. And the idea that you can drink at a movie theater, it still feels relatively new to me. And it is also for me not part. I mean, I'm not saying like Beck and I went and saw the French Dispatch and I had a couple of martinis and then I bought a truck that doesn't run. So maybe this is a real strong argument against me mixing alcohol in movies. So it's like, I've had a drink before the movie theater before, but it's not, I'm with you, for me anyway, it is not the part of the movie experience that I look forward to. I look forward to having my popcorn, having my soda pop, and sitting there and watching the movie. And I think that's just because that's how it was for most of my life.

00:36:42 - 00:36:50 | Speaker 2:

You know what I did the other day that is, I don't know if anybody's ever tried this before, but I went to a baseball game and didn't drink one goddamn beer and have the time of my life.

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Are you under doctor's orders?

00:36:55 - 00:39:05 | Speaker 2:

I was with Genevieve doesn't know I drink. No, what I meant to say is Genevieve doesn't know I'm drinking right now. No, no, I mean, listen. So I went, listen, are you guys listening? I went to the Mariners Tigers game on Sunday with a group of friends. It was a day game. It's been a long time since I've gone to a day game. It's been a really long time since I've gone to a Sunday day game, which is kind of a kind of a special kind of day game, I think. The Mariners, where they're beautiful. I always wonder if the Mariners don't play quite as hard in their Sunday unis because they're so nice-looking in that cream. They don't want to get them dirty. They want to get them dirty, but they did win, finally. But anyway, all of that is to say I went to this Tigers game, had a great time, but it was the fourth time I was to the ballpark in seven days, or I guess maybe eight days Sunday to Sunday, because I'd spent the beginning of this week going to the All-Star activities, the All-Star game, the Home Run Derby. So, like, I'd been spending a lot of time in the park, And so, like, I actually was thinking about you at one point because, like, you know, sometimes I get a hot dog, but it's kind of rarer and rarer now. And I remember mentioning that to you and you're like, how can you not get a hot dog at the park? And it's like, well, when you go a lot, you know, not that I'm there every week, but when, you know, I've just been there kind of a lot lately. Like the little rituals, you don't need to rely on them. If you're only going to the ballpark once or twice a year or something, then, yeah, you kind of savor that or the first one. But it's kind of like I am actually kind of a big popcorn guy. I enjoy. So I got myself one of those refillable for like nine, nine or ten bucks. You can get like a refillable soda cup. And I think it's like four if you just get a small cup. So it makes sense to get this thing if you're going to drink as much soda as I'm going to. Got myself a thing of popcorn, refilled that cup a few times, and it was like really great. I was like, oh, wow. Baseball's boring. No, I'm just joking. It was awesome. It was actually it was one of those things where I'm trying to figure out how I feel about it in a certain way. I had such a lovely day at the park and in the back of my mind I was like boy what a lovely day at the park thank god they shortened it thank god they shortened my experience but on the other hand it really the game did kind of clip along actually really well like it was a really fun game to sort of pay attention to maybe because of the

00:39:05 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 1:

rule changes. Also I think you probably had had a big bingo night the night before and it's Sunday and you know we've got the week ahead the Sunday scaries like if there were a day that I would go to an ems game and be likely to just go like i'm good skipping the beer at this game it would definitely be the exact scenario you've described friends and family it's a sunday uh i get you know i'm not looking to um i'm not looking to make monday harder on myself etc etc let's just enjoy the sunshine and the good company and all of that so yeah of course i did come home and huff lighter fluid though why am i laughing at that is that a laugh line that's so dark Hello and welcome to Top Story. All right, we promoted this yesterday and didn't get to it, but the announcement from the In-N-Out.

00:40:00 - 00:40:40 | Speaker 2:

burger chain that uh or the announcement really from the wider news because the in and out burger chain has sent a letter to all of its employees saying uh you cannot wear a mask anymore unless you can provide evidence from a medical uh person that you you need it for some medical reason and they're saying this is because they they want their customers to be able to see their employees smiling faces and also they want their customers to be able to uh hear uh them uh the employees better uh so they you cannot wear a mask if you work at in and out anymore unless you uh unless you've got a note uh this is the same company by the way that donated like 40 million dollars in

00:40:40 - 00:41:01 | Speaker 1:

california to the republican party so and was and was making a stink about um vaccine requirements and it was one of those companies like that like kind of just fought the requirements of having to show your I want to say show your vaccine if you're a customer or something like that. But generally speaking, was one of those companies on the record as being kind of against vaccine policies during the height of the pandemic?

00:41:02 - 00:41:47 | Speaker 2:

I'm wondering if I mean, everything that we know about the labor market right now is is that it's very strong still, meaning people have options for jobs. This is why you see wages going up. This is why you see people attempting to unionize. there is more power within employees have more power right now than they've had in a long long time just because they're play my guess would be places like in and out have to work pretty hard to keep their places staffed up and i'm just wondering if this isn't i mean i think this is a bad idea because who cares if someone wears a mask like it's not hurting you i i think the argument that people need to see your smiling face is kind of overrated if somebody doesn't want to show me their smiling face i don't really care especially if you have a drive-through when

00:41:47 - 00:41:53 | Speaker 1:

you're talking to a to a robot or a speaker like i mean this just feels like uh this feels like a

00:41:53 - 00:42:38 | Speaker 2:

company that's run by some kind of right right wing type folks just trying to like push back on woke culture um but i also wonder if it's i wonder if it will hurt them just in terms of keeping staff around because if i'm somebody and it's my preference to wear a mask out in the wider world uh and then this place won't let me wear it but there's i can go to a different place down the street and work there and wear my mask I feel like it would be you know that would inspire me to go work somewhere else I wonder if this is actually gonna be a problem for them and I also wonder if they're not just dog whistling right yeah just try like I mean how many of their employees were even wearing masks I mean is this just them trying to make sure they don't end up on the Jesse Waters show on Fox or something the one thing I will say by

00:42:38 - 00:42:49 | Speaker 1:

the way I've never been to In-N-Out Burger it's funny I lived in Southern california for two years there's always a line around the yeah exactly and you know me i'm grumpy i'm just like really i'm gonna wait in line for that and everybody says how great it is and it's

00:42:49 - 00:43:01 | Speaker 2:

like it's fine andrew i'm sure it's fine fine like this my official take on in and out before this whole thing it's i've had many in and out burgers i find them to be yummy i do not get the

00:43:01 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 1:

the mania around them yeah and well i've never had it so i can't weigh in but that's kind of what i expect like i i do not feel like i'm missing anything and um and people i know they They really fetishize them, but I don't know. Anyway, I was going to say the one thing in this art, and I don't know why I'm looking for one thing to sort of defend, but just maybe to enrich in the conversation a tiny bit is they did say something like, OK, if you have a doctor's note, then you can wear a mask. But we will provide an N95 mask. Now, let's just say that we can trust the company to provide the proper masks. That's the one thing that I can sort of see is them saying, hey, listen, I'm going to be I'm going to like kind of talk from devil's advocacy standpoint here. So don't don't clip this out and quote me and say this is where I stand. But like I could sort of see them saying, hey, listen, we kind of have a bunch of like kind of slack jawed employees who are wearing these sort of like dirty ass masks that are like sometimes halfway around their chin, sometimes hanging off an ear. Sometimes they're blowing their nose and that sometimes they're wearing it. Like I have seen a lot like in these in these, you know, kind of I get do we call them post pandemic days or whatever the era is that we're living in now where I see people who work in in positions where they have to deal with the the public quite a bit. They want to wear a mask. But you see some real grubby looking stuff out there. And I guess if I'm running a food establishment saying, hey, listen, obviously, I would never say you can't wear a mask or you need a doctor's note or anything like that. But I could maybe see saying, hey, listen, you know, like some people are coming in here with dirty SpongeBob masks. We got one guy who's wearing the thing that's like his flesh tone and it's really disturbing. It's like his face on his face. There's some shit that goes on that I don't want to look at when I'm ordering an In-N-Out burger. So I can sort of see a company saying, hey, and we're dealing with food here and we want to make sure if our employees really want to wear masks, And then we will make sure that they're wearing the proper mask and a clean mask. And we will give anybody who wants a mask a clean N95 at the beginning of every shift or something. I think you can be a responsible company and go in that direction and maybe.

00:45:00 - 00:45:09 | Speaker 2:

for maybe something that you're seeing i don't like you said i think this is more dog whistling than anything but if they do think that there's a grubby mask problem there are better ways to

00:45:09 - 00:46:54 | Speaker 1:

solve it right i do think it should be illegal to wear that mask that is your own face on the mask maybe anywhere but definitely somewhere where we're trying to eat i'm sorry it's so upsetting it's so upsetting it's it's like it crosses so many uncanny valleys i can't even really get into it i will also say this now that we've established that people should be able to wear masks if they want i don't it doesn't it doesn't hurt me in any way when i'm walking down the street in portland and someone is wearing a mask by themselves in their car and they drive past me do i do i think that's not something that i would personally probably do at this point sure does it hurt me no like who cares right that being said i was going in to um a bar the other night it's one of those places where you get a hand stamp and the person who was doing the the the front door or whatever had a mask on and they said I would bet my life on it okay put your right hand out so I put my right hand out for the stamp and then they said other hand I was like oh you said oh you said left hand and I put my left hand out and they stamped it and then I felt the need to clarify with them I'm so sorry it sounded to all the world like me like you said right hand I really want you to know that i am aware of the difference of my and i was saying this playfully like i wasn't being like you think i don't know right from left but i was like it was very important to me that this person understood that i didn't think that that was my left hand like that i am an adult human who knows the difference between my right hand and my left hand but it sounded for all the world like they said right hand to me when in fact they were saying left hand so i mean every once in a while i do think there can be some auditory stuff with the masks but it's like okay the person has to say it twice like it's not that big of a deal either way i can't hear

00:46:54 - 00:46:57 | Speaker 2:

what people are i'm i got middle-aged man hearing at this point i can't hear what anybody is saying

00:46:57 - 00:47:50 | Speaker 1:

anyway half the time i am the person i'm not particularly tall but i find myself when i'm talking to people in a loud environment now um you know particularly if they're a little bit shorter than me i'm just perpetually stooped over yeah and i'm staring at the ground and my ear ear in their face my ear is in their face and I'm staring at the ground and like sometimes I remember it depends probably how many how many movie beers I've had but sometimes I'll try to clarify and go hey I'm not ignoring you I'm trying to hear you right now sometimes I'll try to clarify sometimes I won't but I don't even realize I'm doing it anymore like I'll just be in public in a crowded room this is going to happen to the 4000th episode probably like when we're chatting with folks you know before and after the show but like it's just I just just my default setting now in a loud space i'm just like i'm bent over jamming my ear right up into someone's mouth

00:47:50 - 00:47:54 | Speaker 2:

so i could hear but i'm sure it looks pretty strange we should get ear horns for the 4 000th

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episode can you still get those things do they make those i mean i'm sure that there might be slightly better technology now although speaking of which i mean i don't think i'm quite there yet but i don't think i'm far off from probably looking into some kind of uh ear enhancement and i do mean surgically i do mean having probably like spock ears or something no like you know some i i know more and more folks now who are using various forms of hearing aids to great effect i mean the technology is amazing you're totally joking about just to be very clear

00:48:28 - 00:48:32 | Speaker 2:

you're totally joking about any kind of surgery to improve your hearing you mean a device right

00:48:32 - 00:48:50 | Speaker 1:

yes yeah yeah i was trying to make a joke about i was trying to make a joke about um it being cosmetic right right but i mean i i'm not saying i'm gonna like get hearing aids tomorrow But I see that in my future because, again, I know a lot of people who have them and and they're again, they're very unobtrusive now and I bet very helpful.

00:48:50 - 00:49:28 | Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know if you and I have talked about this or if I've just talked about it with Genevieve or whatever. But like I honestly think that the technology of the past several years of going from earbuds to earbuds or whatever we call wireless little headphones like there used to be when I was growing up a certain stigma around hearing aids and a reluctance of people who need hearing aids to get hearing aids because a lot you know I grew up in the era where they were still on the outside of the ear in a lot of cases. They were that sort of like medical beige color that is just unattractive, I think. Medical beige. Is there a word for that? I mean, we must have, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

00:49:28 - 00:49:31 | Speaker 1:

I don't know what the word is, but I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:49:31 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it's just like, you know, and again, just a stigma. And also often hearing loss comes with an aging process that some people might, you know, wrap a lot of stuff up into. but now that we all have doohickeys in our ears all the time like you can get yourself an earbud that helps you hear the surrounding world and also you can probably listen to music through and also it can probably do your taxes like i just sort of feel like yeah of course like i'm wearing an earbud 90 of the day when i'm running errands or doing whatever any

00:50:00 - 00:51:46 | Speaker 1:

way why not just have one that can help me hear better why not totally i mean that's also i this is some theme that i keep coming back to but i feel like it's a little bit generational too that the younger generation is just wearing one airpod at all times now at all times doing like i was watching patrick mahomes was playing in some pro-am golf tournament and he had hit some really great shot actually you know what i'm trying to remember if it was patrick yeah because steph Curry also did really well in that tournament, but I think this might have been Mahomes. And he just had the AirPods in his ears, or one AirPod in as he's, like, to me the idea, and of course, why wouldn't he? Because for one thing, the newer AirPods, you can turn them into listening devices. There is a, I believe there's like a mode where they help you hear better, as opposed to being something that plays music. And also they're designed that when they're off, they don't really obstruct your regular hearing. Like people that are younger than me are very comfortable wearing those all the time. They're working at the cash register, at a restaurant, like whatever, it's just in there. It's just part of their life. And I was watching a TikTok yesterday where one of these podcast hosts, a woman who looked like she was maybe in her mid-20s was saying she just found out that her AirPods were waterproof. And now she just showers with them every day. And she's in the shower and someone's calling her and then she just tells the AirPods, answer the call. And then she's just talking to somebody in the shower. I think I know intellectually, by the way, that airpods are waterproof but i trying to get me into the shower with airpods on would be like trying to get bubbles into the shower yeah i would be clawing at all the edges i would be grabbing onto the shower curtain there'd be something like i understand they're waterproof i i couldn't bring myself to do it and i don't know why again because i'm old well and also for me but it also seems

00:51:46 - 00:53:13 | Speaker 2:

sort of uncomfortable like with the water kind of pouring down it's maybe like keeping the water out but they're still gonna be like i for me like if i'm listening first of all i don't have good air pods or anything like some equivalent of that i don't also don't have a have a apple phone why do i always struggle with that iphone they don't call them apple phones just remember it's not a me phone it's an iphone that's right i'm not even joking with that i'm just so like i like they're at can i be honest with you for a second are they still apple computers you don't call them apple computers either right i need to get just like apple out of my lexicon right it's I guess they're just Mac computers and iPhones. Okay, yeah. So, all right. Having said all of that, my Bluetooth listening, 99% of my listening still happens with the, I have two different pairs of these big black Sony over-the-ear headphones, which I actually really like, but they are impractical. Like when I go to a ball game, I'm wearing these things on the bus or the train, and then I have to carry them around the ballpark. It's not the worst thing in the world, but it'd be a lot easier if I had a couple of, you know, things I could pop in my ears in and out easily. having said all of that when i need to take a shower and i need to you know stop listening to my big black headphones i'm in the shower by myself you can just put it on speaker that's one i think that's one of the pleasures in life actually to just like kind of because my you know i think most phones are water resistant you can just put that on the little shelf in the shower and listen to dan lebitard or whatever you want i have a whole system would be overstating it but

00:53:13 - 00:54:54 | Speaker 1:

i have so you know i've got some sonos speakers here in my apartment and that is for every morning when I wake up, I grab my phone, and I hit play on that, and it starts playing OPB, Oregon Public Broadcasting, around the apartment. And then I listen to that until I've heard all the stories twice, which takes less time than you'd think. And when I hear them going back into the same hour of programming, that's when it's time for me to switch to Stern. But that's off of the Sirius app, and there's not an easy way to play it through my Sonos. There might be, but I haven't figured it out and it just gets complicated so my the easier thing to do is for me to just use this bluetooth speaker that addy got me that looks like a marshall amp and that's what i play stern through so it's like there's always the time in my morning where it's time to turn off the sonos and turn on the bluetooth and tune in to the howard stern show and again i'm i'm sure somebody smarter than me could figure out a more unified system but it's just what i do and that's what i listen to when i'm in the shower too for some reason yeah it's got to be and then my you know I've realized because you know I had that neighbor that's a little kooky who left me those notes who I've passed in the hall a few times now and I would say luckily there haven't been any notes but I don't think that neighbor is necessarily less weirded out by me and less kind of one time did I tell you this so just if people missed that episode a long time ago a one day I came home and noticed there was a note under my door and it accused me of cooking food in the middle of the night that was making the other person's apartment smell like food being cooked. And I was put off by this because, A, I don't think I'd even been home. You weren't.

00:54:54 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 2:

You were out with me and John having secret meetings all night. This is when we were in Portland.

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Okay.

00:55:00 - 00:55:18 | Speaker 3:

Okay, thank you. And so not only had I not been there cooking late at night, but I'm not even here that much between my work travel and being up at the other house and stuff, all the brush hogging I have to supervise. So I wrote a pretty terse note back, which I probably could have been more mature about it, but I was, and then finally-

00:55:18 - 00:55:33 | Speaker 2:

But wasn't it also not just the cooking? I'm sorry to interrupt, but I thought in one note, this neighbor accused you of cooking late at night and smelling and also the loud music. And you said you were just listening to like like some Amy Grant, a very quiet.

00:55:33 - 00:55:38 | Speaker 3:

It wasn't Amy Grant. I believe it was Sean Colvin, maybe something in that right in that the secular Amy Grant.

00:55:39 - 00:55:45 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I meant. But it wasn't that on the same note, like like two things that could not have possibly been part of reality.

00:55:46 - 00:57:39 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm slightly I'm slightly I'm a little hazy on which came first. I think I got the first note about the food, and then I was playing the music, because we had been out late and had been strategizing and socializing. And then maybe I was playing my music, but again, it was very, like I said, it was literally like Sean Colvin or something. Then I got a really loud knock on my door, and I think another note that was about the music. So that's now lived in my head since then. And so I try to be careful, because what I realize is, I think my bathroom and this person's bathroom, or the wall of my bathroom, it's a shared wall, and it must be shared with this person's apartment. So I try to not blast music, and certainly if I'm playing in the morning, even if I'm playing OPB, I try to keep it a little quieter in the bathroom so that it's not blasting them out or whatever. I try to be sort of careful with them, careful about it. But definitely, like, when I pass this person in the hall on the rare occasion, they kind of just, like, either look away or kind of hug the wall or, like, duck right into their apartment. And then I go to the elevator and I hear them coming back out of their apartment like they were hiding in their apartment for me. And one time, Andrew, this is the kicker. One time I had left my apartment. I had gone to the elevator. I had forgotten my key or something. I forgot something in the apartment. So I walk down the hall, I hit the elevator button, I realize, oh, I don't have this thing. I go back to my apartment, I go in, I get whatever it is. As I'm walking back out of my apartment, I just hear the person in the apartment that I've had a little trouble with just yelling through the door. First of all, they slam the door really loudly, and they just yell, F you! And I can't figure out who it could be directed at other than me.

00:57:39 - 00:57:40 | Speaker 2:

Oh, they must have been on the phone.

00:57:42 - 00:57:46 | Speaker 3:

No, no, no. No, no, no. It sounded like they were yelling it through the door at me.

00:57:47 - 00:57:52 | Speaker 2:

Wow. This person is maybe just, maybe, like, legit dealing with some mental health stuff.

00:57:52 - 00:58:01 | Speaker 3:

I kind of think that they may be in some sort of a crisis where I think that they're, like, literally maybe afraid of me or something.

00:58:01 - 00:58:03 | Speaker 2:

Like, yeah, having some paranoia stuff going on.

00:58:03 - 00:58:08 | Speaker 3:

And I think that maybe, although there have been no other notes. I haven't gotten contacted by the management saying, like.

00:58:08 - 00:58:45 | Speaker 2:

Did you mention now, though, that you guys did sort of reach a detente? You did. You got it. I mean, my memory, and this is your story, but my memory was that you had one note from her addressing two things, the music and the smelly food, I thought. And then you wrote something back that was like, that wasn't me. I wasn't here, like back off or whatever. And then and then they did write back to you with another note. Right. Did you say that now? That was a kind of a detente, like you were kind of impressed that they wrote back and said, hey, listen, sorry, I might have come off a little strong there. But, yeah, let's try to find some common ground. It wasn't a total retreat, but it was kind of a, hey, we're two people here. Let's work this out.

00:58:46 - 00:59:04 | Speaker 3:

Yes, that was where we landed. I shouldn't have called her banana breath in the note. That was an interesting, what did you just do, eat a banana? If I had that, if I wasn't using my backup audio system, Andrew, otherwise I'd have to, I have the long version of it, which is probably 15 seconds of silence and then eventually this.

00:59:04 - 00:59:07 | Speaker 1:

Back away, banana breath. What the hell did you just eat, a banana?

00:59:08 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 3:

That is not nearly as satisfying. but anyway um that was where we left things we left things with uh they wrote me i thought a kind of overly rude note i responded pretty rude should have been nicer then they gave me another note then i left them one last note and then at the end of it they sent me a note or they passed a note a handwritten note that said basically like yeah sorry that was i'm not feeling well that was over the line by me we still need to treat each other like there was still a little bit of passive aggressive woven in like it still matters how you treat your neighbors but let's just you know be nice to each other going forward and i was actually struck by okay good we as you said we have a detente and that's the last i've heard from this person nothing there have been no more notes there hasn't been we haven't been any incidents per se but uh there is a weird vibe

01:00:00 - 01:01:04 | Speaker 2:

And it's like I said, it's the fact that this person, I think this person is trying very, very hard to not be ever in the hallway when I'm in the hallway. And I think that incident where I heard them yelling F you through the door, I'm totally kind of just guessing at this. But my guess is they heard my door close. They thought I was leaving and then I wasn't leaving. And then that interrupted their ability in their own mind to come out into the hall. I hope not. I hope that's not the case but I mean I dude for their sake you know as much as mine but anyway all I'm trying to say is it's not I wouldn't say it's the most free and easy neighborly relationship which is why even when I play the Howard Stern show see bringing it all home Andrew even when I play the Howard Stern show for myself sometimes I play it so quietly that I almost can't quite hear it over the shower because I don't want to it's one thing to force my neighbor to listen to opb through the wall no one should have to listen to them razzing bobo through the wall no one should have to listen to chris wilding's disastrous dates in miami this person is kind of like i went back

01:01:04 - 01:01:09 | Speaker 3:

to my apartment i just heard him yell at me baba booey and he was clearly yelling at me through

01:01:09 - 01:01:49 | Speaker 2:

the door that was just me honestly though that was me yeah that wasn't even the show that's just what i do i mean i did actually i was thinking about that this morning andrew because i was listening back to an old episode of stern not old but like a few weeks old and they were talking about they were playing audio of someone yelling baba booey at a golf tournament and i was reminded of the time that i yelled baba booey after driving grave digger in florida on their like jumbotron um in a completely pointless attempt to get attention from the howard stern show considering this was not broadcast anywhere there would be almost no way for this to make its way to the producers but i just thought this is my chance to yell baba buoy and and become famous in the stern

01:01:49 - 01:01:59 | Speaker 3:

world is a monster truck rally the polar opposite of a golf competition yes and it also and you're

01:01:59 - 01:02:03 | Speaker 2:

not i don't know if this is where you're going with it but it's not nearly as funny when you

01:02:03 - 01:02:08 | Speaker 3:

do it at a monster truck thing oh no i wasn't going with it i was going to say and yet yet

01:02:08 - 01:02:30 | Speaker 2:

somehow the phrase was perfect for every occasion oh wow that's a good point i was i was thinking I mean, part of the fun of it being at a golf tournament is how maybe sort of snooty golf can be sometimes. And, like, I mean, probably Baba Booey was only the 17th weirdest thing yelled at that monster truck rally in Tampa that day. Yeah, it would have been more interesting if you had just said,

01:02:31 - 01:02:31 | Speaker 3:

Nice shot.

01:02:34 - 01:02:42 | Speaker 1:

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man, it's not from a female.

01:02:42 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 3:

all right we got an email or email today yes but first i'm going to betray some no i'm not going to betray any confidence i don't know so i uh we have a mutual friend luke who also listens to tbtl um i'm not going to share their name right now because i'm not sure if they want me to share this but i got a text from this person just you know my personal text line uh last night that was just a photo of a note left under a windshield and it's a nice pink and purple piece of paper um now i i'm just gonna say right now set this up for clarity what you need to know is this note was left under this windshield by my friend okay so my friend is the note writer okay and it says please and again i want to stress here this is like a little piece of like kind of stationary with a little purple unicorn on it and it says notes at the top and then my friend's handwriting says and boy can I barely see these days says please try and be more diligent about parking in the lines we both have large cars thanks and then like an exclamation point that is also a heart right so like really putting everything out here and even saying like hey Mike hey I'm driving one of these beasts too you know honestly I don't even know if my friend drive that big of a car I find it hard to believe that they drive a very big car. I don't know what they drive. But sent me this last night and just said, well, let's see if my windshield gets smashed. And I'm like, okay, so is this an assigned parking situation? And they're like, yeah. So my understanding, I said, okay, keep us updated and may God be with you. And now I just texted to them right now. I want to know if they've gone out to their car because apparently this is an assigned parking type of situation. I'm guessing at their apartment or wherever they live. And so they must always park next to the same person. I'm assuming this wasn't just like the first time this has happened that would leave them, you know, that would take them to leave a note. And I'm dying to find out like whether or not this person starts parking more politely in the lines or more obnoxiously. And so I just wrote to my friend.

01:05:00 - 01:05:22 | Speaker 1:

like well have you been to your car today and they're like well i had to park on the street yesterday because they were so far over the line so that's why i left the note so i am on pins and needles i will find out um if uh i will find out from this person if i can use their name and i'll give you an update tomorrow but like this is like this is high drama for me well and it's it's it's

01:05:22 - 01:06:28 | Speaker 2:

over it's more complicated because it's assigned parking so it it's not gonna you're not gonna have to be uh hercules poirot to figure out who left the note whereas if you're just like a regular like um a regular street like where where you left your note again in that case it was probably fairly obvious who it would be but but if you're just out on a regular residential parking street and you leave a note there's a chance that the person could be like well i don't know where this came from but when it's just like the person you park next to yeah like you're and and you're going to i mean the chances that you will be getting out of your car at the same time that they're showing up or whatever is is pretty great so it's smart this person approached this with maximum delicacy but i'm with you like i want to hear how this turns out because i could see it i don't think i don't think we're going to get a windshield smash situation because again that'd be an open and shut case yes but i do think i do think that it's it has the potential to either be very awkward or maybe and this one i'm hoping for it could be a story of neighborly friendship where the person's like oh i'm my bad sorry about that yeah i'll do better next time and like it could be a love

01:06:28 - 01:07:24 | Speaker 1:

connection it could be a meet cute it could be a meet cute it could be a park cute uh all right i'm gonna play one quick voicemail for you here uh that'll maybe tie this all together too because this is another uh thing involving cars uh and also duty-free shops we were talking about duty-free shops in the airport but you and i were also talking about the duty-free shop that you can buy stuff at snacks trinkets whatever that is actually on the american canadian border when you're like driving across specifically in our case in blaine washington um is where that kind of crossing happens and i told you like i remember going into that duty free shop before but it doesn't really make sense if i if i am a u.s citizen coming back i shouldn't be able to buy something at the duty free shop and carry it back in right anyway it's all a little bit confusing however it did lead to this voicemail from krista telling us about a life hack if you're trying to get back into the states and the line of cars is way too long at the checkpoint hey guys this is

01:07:24 - 01:08:13 | Speaker 3:

krista in east lake and i have a life hack it buddy for the duty free shop at the canadian border i was just in vancouver over the weekend on the way back my friend who was driving said hey if we stop at the duty free shop then we can skip ahead in line and i was like what i'd never heard of this and it turns out it's true so um we you know pulled into the duty-free parking lot and the wait at the border was like two hours um according to the sign and once we pulled back into line we had to wait maybe 40 45 minutes um so i think it really saved us a lot of time so if anyone is coming back from canada and has a long wait um go buy some candy at the duty-free

01:08:13 - 01:09:33 | Speaker 2:

shop like we did and you get some candy okay i see so the way so in other words i bet you that the duty i mean this is very obvious i don't know why because i was confused last time about like well who can buy what at the one that's on the u.s side i'm guessing so if you're a u.s citizen you can pop into the the canadian duty free shop and stock up on a bunch of maple syrup and uh strange brew vhs tapes the two major exports i believe from our friends to the north and then And then not pay any kind of tax on it, and then you get in line and you go through. And vice versa, if you're coming back across from the States and you're a Canadian citizen, you can grab our stuff and then go through. Now, what I'm interested in here or what I'm curious about is if this is intentional, and I bet you it is, I bet you that they want to incentivize you, however subtly, to go through the duty-free shop. I wonder if the duty-free shop, if those proceeds are shared in some way with the government of Canada or with the project there of the border, because it can't be that they don't know this is the case. And if there's something that shaves an hour and 15 minutes off of going through the border, crossing the border, and you're going through some sort of commerce to get there, I just wonder how planned that is.

01:09:33 - 01:11:32 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, speaking of Krista, by the way, can I just throw in one other thing here because it just occurred to me? This voicemail we got from Krista in Eastlake, I ran into Krista. I don't think I told you this. Maybe I already told you this. Maybe this is boring. But we got to get you out of here, so I'll make this quick. But several weeks ago, I told you I was in the mood for sort of a good pub burger. And so I went to this place that ended up being rough and tumble. I'd never heard of it before. It looked like they had a good burger. So I went there. And it's actually a space I've been in before. when it was like kind of a fancy restaurant now it's a a kind of a sports bar that is aimed specifically at women's sports especially like kind of seattle's teams it's a really good place there's nice out kind of outdoor in but enclosed uh seating area anyway i really liked it the day i went there about and i talked about it on the show how much i like rough and tumble uh after i talked about it on the show i got an email from oh gosh i don't think it was garrison it was somebody who wrote to me and say, hey, I went to Rough and Tumble. I liked it. I also said that you talked about it on your podcast and they want a link so they can put it on their website. I can't remember where we talked about it. I don't know if they're really going to put a link to TBTL on their website. Having said that, about a week later, maybe even less, Genevieve and I went back there for brunch. Genevieve and I were looking for a new brunch place. She's like, hey, let's go back to that Rough and Tumble place. They had a good brunch menu, if I recall. I'm like, all right, let's go I go in there did I tell you this ran into two tens one on the way in and one on the way out wow Minnie was there and I'm pretty sure that Minnie said that she was there because we mentioned it on the show I don't think Minnie had been there before and then on the way out I recognized somebody and I'm like oh wait don't I know you and she's like yeah I'm Krista from Eastlake I was like are you here because I mentioned it on the show she said well I've been meaning to check it out and maybe you know hearing it again nudged me in this direction like we should be getting a cut of those hamburger profits gonna say uh i assume we now will eat free at rough and tumble we certainly should like honestly there were two people they're kind of on my recommendation again krista said she wanted to check it out anyway but like it really felt like

01:11:32 - 01:11:38 | Speaker 2:

old home old home days is that old home week by the way use the promo code tbtl when you go to

01:11:38 - 01:11:43 | Speaker 1:

just write it just when you're supposed to sign just write anyone who goes there just right i

01:11:43 - 01:11:52 | Speaker 2:

heard about this on tbtl and see how long it takes for rough and tumble to reach out to us and and let us have a live event there and or just start giving us free burgers with a knife

01:11:52 - 01:12:18 | Speaker 1:

stuck in them yeah exact mood you were i told you i was like i wanted a burger and even though i usually love just sort of lowbrow food or dive bars i was like i wanted a slightly more i wanted a casual dining experience but slightly upscale to the point where maybe there's a knife sticking out of my burger when it's served to me i also got a uh i got a uh banh mi there a tofu banh mi that was actually really good i don't usually go for meatless options but it just looked really

01:12:18 - 01:13:10 | Speaker 2:

good and it was i have and i i should i should uh pretty soon but like i have a tendency away from ordering a food like a banh mi or uh you know a food that i consider to be associated with a particular region of the world oh yeah sure if i'm at a restaurant that isn't the focus of that restaurant isn't that region of the world like if i was at a vietnamese restaurant i would get a banh mi but if i was at a sports bar i might that and yeah no that's that makes sense that's on that's on banh mi andrew because like it's not like it's not like somebody at a sports bar could make a killer banh mi but it's just my i usually go away i go i go away from anything that seems like maybe you know what I mean like and I don't get I also wouldn't get tacos at a sports bar I wouldn't get anything that I associate with a region of the world if I was at a restaurant the restaurant is not associated with that region of the world yeah no that makes sense in this how

01:13:10 - 01:13:48 | Speaker 1:

was the bond it was really good it was really really you know a bond me again usually when I get I don't eat tons of pork in my daily life because Genevieve doesn't but if I'm ordering a bond me for myself it almost always is a pork bond me but this time you know all they had was tofu banh mi but i was like you know what i mean the flavors of banh mi don't usually come from the protein anyway you know it's all the cilantro and the the peppers on there oh my gosh am i hungry look out jersey mike's i'll take one of your largest banh mi by the way um cowabunga connecticut just got overwritten for that's on banh mi so congratulations for the late game entry there

01:13:48 - 01:14:26 | Speaker 2:

I did like Cowboy Connecticut, too, though. All right. That'll do it for today's episode of the program. But I have some amazing news. We will be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio. You know what I'm doing tomorrow morning, Andrew? Tomorrow's Thursday, right? With one Peter Sagal and other members of the Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me staff, and also Becca, is we're going on a run tomorrow morning. Oh, really? Peter's a big runner, and he sent out a message saying, hey, we're going to be running in Portland if you want to come along, and Becca being a big runner and big wait-wait fan. Because we're doing wait-wait tomorrow night at the Schnitz here in Portland.

01:14:26 - 01:14:28 | Speaker 1:

Oh, I don't think I realized it was in Portland.

01:14:28 - 01:14:29 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's in Portland.

01:14:30 - 01:14:43 | Speaker 1:

Wait, can I ask you a question about your schedule? So you wrote this on the show sheet, but then we never talked about it. Weren't you supposed to be in L.A. today and tomorrow, or tomorrow and Friday, because you were supposed to interview Carol Burnett?

01:14:43 - 01:15:10 | Speaker 2:

No, that was next week, and I was supposed to interview Carol Burnett. And she declined to do the interview now because of the SAG strike, which our producer was trying to sort of communicate to, I guess, probably Carol Burnett's folks that. we're not a SAG production. We're just like a news outfit. And that, you know, this wouldn't, in our opinion, represent crossing any picket lines. But I guess Carol Burnett is...

01:15:10 - 01:15:18 | Speaker 1:

I think it's about promotion, though, right? Like, I know that no writers were trying to do anything that would be considered promotion for their projects, and maybe Carol Burnett feels the same way.

01:15:18 - 01:16:12 | Speaker 2:

Well, that's interesting, because we were going to talk to her about the Hollywood sign, because the Hollywood sign is turning 100. Oh, interesting. So I'm going to be filming down at the Hollywood sign next week. And then also we wanted to talk to somebody who's been in Hollywood for a long time and maybe who kind of moved there and had their dreams come true. And the person we got was Carol Burnett. But now what I'm realizing is I wonder if she isn't also promoting something. And that's how that came together. And maybe now she's not promoting that something. Point is, I'm going running tomorrow in Forest Park and I'm nervous about it because it's very hilly and I am not good at that. And I'm also not feeling like I'm in the peak of my physical conditioning right now. so I guess tomorrow morning when we do this show I'll be able to tell you all how it went because we're doing that at like 7am or something nice alright good luck that's a little forward pro for tomorrow's program we'll see you all for that then when it's time to talk to you about that stuff boy that was pretty circular I always have trouble at the end of the show

01:16:12 - 01:16:24 | Speaker 1:

I don't want it to end are we running out of music and I'm trying to figure out some good tape to play at the end here and I just thought of a good one but I need you to stall a little bit more So take your time with this.

01:16:25 - 01:16:43 | Speaker 2:

Go ahead. Okay. Let's see. Thank you for listening, everyone. Thank you for being part of TBTL. We'll be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio. In the meantime, have a great Wednesday. Stay safe. Take care of yourselves. Stay cool. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. That was the longest I could have.

01:16:43 - 01:16:54 | Speaker 1:

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