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look daddy i like you like i like you that's the thing i like you too daddy it's a lot of things about me you don't know anything about daddy things you wouldn't understand things you couldn't understand things you shouldn't understand i don't understand

I was shaking, my tummy was shaking, my head was shaking, my arms were shaking, my legs, my feet too.

In no way do I want to appear pushy here, but please, shut up. That's a no from me, dog. There are two types of people in this world. Those who like Neil Diamond and those who don't.

My ex-wife loves him. You know something? That was pretty funny. you should think about being a comedian my friend is a blackjack dealer and on his forearm he has a tattoo of an ace and a jack you see i'm a blackjack player on my forearm i'm gonna get a tattoo of a 10 and a two and then maybe later a king you know someone might describe a situation

that's unpleasant or confining as being like a prison this is what they're referring to

Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Wednesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

I like turtles.

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Hi, I'm Luke. Coming to you from the Hollywood Broadcast Center right here in Portland, Oregon, where it's a beautiful day. Let's see. This is... Let's see. Where am I? Where am I? Carry the one. Yeah, this is the third-to-last day that I will be doing the show from here, from the Hollywood Broadcast Center.

Let the fun begin.

And we are at episode 4001 in a collector's series. i love that number because it means that we don't need to do another big old show like we just did in seattle for like 3999 episodes i mean that'll never happen right remember when you're a kid and you're going on christmas break and you have homework but it just feels like that's that's a two weeks from now problem like there's just it's never going to be the case that you need to do that homework because you have so much time off that's me right now thinking about the 8000th episode of tbtl anyway here we are we are going to talk about uh how it all went in seattle um on the 4000 hey what happened it was a truly wonderful night i i really mean that from the bottom of my heart we'll talk about that also we'll talk about the passing of paul rubens aka peewee herman i'm trying to use the phone and as i've already mentioned now i am going to be moving out of this apartment over the weekend. And I will tell you what, this apartment building is doing a great job of making me feel confident in that decision. I was sitting outside with two cats today for the better part of an

hour. Hey, want to hear the most annoying

sound in the world? Because a fire alarm was going off that even the fire department could not figure out how to make

it stop. Oh my god! We're having a fire sale! So we'll talk about

that as well and we'll talk to this guy longest running cobro of the show maybe best known for

his depictions of the tall ships he's not spider pig anymore he's hairy plopper he's also a soulful

rocker from new hampshire he's andrew walsh and he's joining me right now good morning my friend

good morning it is a little disorienting isn't it what are we doing just a normal just doing a normal show no huge deadline on the horizon no i don't have like a massive amount of anxiety i

know i should probably have a little more anxiety yeah actually could you ramp that up a little bit i need some sort of perform i should in some way take this seriously as our job but um yeah it is it's really nice to um to have the 4000th episode in the rear view mirror and what a

what a wonderful night andrew wouldn't you say it really was i have i have a little bit of guilt that i did not spend as much time kind of hanging out with tens after the show i had every intention to but as you know my first thing first is always to like kind of clear off my equipment break down my equipment and get it someplace safe and then once that happened it sort of seemed like the the i don't know the ball just started rolling i got to shake hands with a few people but the next day i was like oh man i was strong for both of us i know that you were out there but there's

so many people i was pitting out for both of us andrew don't even get me started on that but yeah

there were so many people that i was like oh that person was there it was like a it was like a homecoming and i i didn't get to say hi to a lot of people so my apologies if you went home thinking like i support this podcast i support that dork with the glasses that's me i wanted to make it clear which dork we're talking about here and he didn't even take a moment to say hello

me please do not uh please don't let that be the takeaway from friday night saturday night

let the takeaway be god that other guy's armpits were rank i was like i was so sweaty in that tuxedo and then i ended up down down the avid the big time uh brewery where also i brought the

leftover sub sandwiches yeah i wasn't there for that so they let you in huh i guess maybe we

brought so much begrudgingly really yeah yeah i could tell that the the because there had been the pre-party there and then there was sort of the post party and i think that the i think whoever owns the place was happy that there was so much business happening but whoever was working at the place was like all right enough about this podcast but somehow we were able to bring in a couple

trays of sub sandwiches i couldn't believe that i saw you walking on the street with those sub

sandwiches i'm like a rolling suitcase in a pack of subs i'm like if they if they make their own

food there which they do i'm like there's no way they're gonna let you bring outside food especially like you know two huge trays of it but again i think that tbtl might have brought more business to big time brewing i'm gonna say brewing instead of the other word which is the rural brewer the rural brewery um maybe they were just maybe that's why they were cool with it i don't know i think i

think they just didn't want any trouble from the tens who were a boisterous a boisterous lot by the time i rolled up the show yeah but i'm not even kidding there was you know i was taking some pictures with folks and all that and i was doing a thing where i was like i kept i was keeping my elbows firmly placed against my ribs can you picture that yes definitely i was like i am not i cannot raise my arms because it will be a it will be a a real toxic situation i was apologizing

to everybody over that yeah i was doing that before the show i was already sweating bullets before the show like before i changed into just the you know the show the clothes that i was going to wear on stage i was just wearing like a short sleeve snap down shirt or snap up shirt um up or down anyway i think i just lost my voice there for a second but anyway i was already ask you a quick

question yeah i only i know you talked about this on stage but i didn't see i didn't get the full sort of effect until i was looking at genevieve's instagram page but you were literally wearing the same hat and the same jacket from the photo right that we used yeah we used a photo during

the slideshow of me at another event i don't remember which one maybe the boat show maybe the last event we did i didn't realize this jacket is so old it actually looks old i saw some of the photos i'm like oh yeah that jacket maybe don't wear that on stage anymore but um yeah at one point i realized i was wearing maybe not the exact same hat but the same exact style hat my green kind of castro hat and the exact same um jacket before i think it's the same hat because it's not

your castro hat because it has an adjust does your castro hat have an adjustable yeah they i

have two green castro hats and they both have adjustable things but one is snap and one is velcro and i've owned a bunch of them over the years but um i was going to say in the green room ahead of time we were able to like kind of meet with a bunch of listeners and stuff and i was just i was not wearing a jacket at all just wearing a short sleeve uh snapdown shirt and i was already just like just from the anxiety you know not anxiety but the you know whatever when I'm when I'm sort of like feeling like I'm I want to be putting on my best self my armpits say well we're gonna get in the way of that and I was so people were like let's take a picture let's take a picture and you know the natural thing is to put your arms on somebody's shoulders or kind of near somebody and like or people were hugging me I'm like you can't hug me like I'm so gross right now like if people wearing sleeveless dresses were going in for hugs and I'm like you don't understand You're going to walk away as if you just walked through the grossest car wash in the world. Please, don't do it to yourself.

I was talking to listeners Chris and Mike at some point, and I think it was Mike who said, interesting shirt choice, because I was wearing, before the show, when we were in the green room, because I knew it was going to be toasty, and I wanted to wait. Well, first of all, I didn't know if I was going to fit into the tuxedo, and I just wanted to wait until it was time to go on stage just to kind of throw that thing on. I was wearing a black T-shirt that's covered in paint splatters because it's the only black T-shirt I currently own that doesn't have the armpits ruined because I changed deodorants. What happened was I ran out of deodorant. I asked Becca to buy me some. Actually, I love the smell of this stuff, but it's like the white kind of like chalky stuff as opposed to the clear.

What's the brand?

It's Old Spice.

Oh, Old Spice makes what? But that's interesting because I had an Old Spice deodorant years and years and years ago, and I didn't like it because it was like the kind of translucent, you know, like kind of glidey stuff. And that's not usually my jam.

See, I like that one because it leaves less of a mark on one's shirt. So what happened was for about a week, because, again, I was really digging this other Old Spice. I liked the smell, and I thought maybe this is a whole new thing for me. And so I was putting it on and wearing my T-shirts. And then I did my laundry and I pulled out and all of my black teeth shirts had permanent white situation in the armpits that like you cannot wash out so they're all ruined and there was just one shirt the one i had been painting in which had not been subjected to this situation so now it's my good t-shirt the one that's covered in paint the one that's covered in paint splatters is my good t-shirt because the armpits are not jacked up and so i was wearing that before the show and one of the listeners was like interesting shirt choice and then the funny thing is i told him the story i just told you and he goes i asked because i knew there would be a story yeah there's never not always is yeah sure is anyway i just want to say thanks to everyone who came out i mean it really was like when we walked on that stage and just the kind of roar of the folks who were there and then like you said getting to kind of catch up with a lot of people after the show and and just see friends you know who i've known for a long time and and some new folks as well i mean it was it really how do i put it it just made this whole thing feel like it actually means something like you know what i mean because like five days a week you and i we're here we're doing this some shows seem like they go pretty well some shows kind of feel like you know i could have been more more entertaining or whatever and then you see everybody there and you realize you see that number 4 000 and you just get to kind of experience being in a room with folks who have been riding along with this thing for 15 years and it was it was a really emotional i mean i was actually proud that i only cried a little bit at the end of the show right yeah you know because like i thought i was gonna i was thinking i might start crying

literally when we walked on stage i i made a comment about this on stage and i wasn't joking like the little intro montage audio package that we opened the show with one of the drops i used was liz lemon singing um you take it what is it cheesy blasters yeah i won't sing the whole thing here but um the audience started singing along with it and again this is just a clip from 30 everybody starts singing along with it and i got choked up like luckily i didn't have to talk for a few more minutes but i that was not a bit like i was just like i was hearing the crowd sing along with a joke that isn't even ours just something i pulled from nbc and threw into something hearing our listeners all get into that and start singing along i got legitimately misty-eyed it really took

me by surprise now speaking of people who work at 30 rockefeller center i we need to address something which is i i think because of well a few factors i'm saying not the least of which was the lodgepole gin that i was drinking straight from the bottle shout out to listener scott yeah thanks scott for that uh lodgepole gin delicious yuzu would recommend um and the strawberry kind as well i've got a bottle of the strawberry stuff and i'm about halfway through it just during the intro to today's show no but um i was you know i was getting probably a bit tired and emotional by the end of the show i was also very very relieved that things from a technical standpoint went as well as they did because i think i said this on the stage but like it was there were moments where i was wondering if any of the technical stuff was going to work not because of any like uh user error because we were trying to do some complicated stuff we were trying to play a bunch of videos we were trying to zoom jen in by the way that looked great yes it really did i think the big winner from saturday night was jen yeah definitely like when i was looking at some instagram pictures like that was an amazing projector like i mean yeah but in the in the fog of that war there was one video that we failed to play i think because it was getting towards the end of the show and i was getting a little loopy and just kind of lost my place on my show sheet and that was a video that our dear friend and long time supporter of the show and i mean that in every single way televisions chris hayes although i will tell you this it's time to come back from vacation chris i love love i love everybody that works on that program, and honestly, I've really turned into an Ali Velshi fan. I was going to ask, is it Ali? And Mehdi Hassan is also great. Like, everybody that I've seen, I think Jen Psaki might have been filling in last week, but I wasn't as tuned in because we were getting ready for the 4,000th. I love all of the people who fill in for Chris, but Chris, bring it back home, baby. Bring it back

home. Can I just interject and offer Chris a piece of advice on this as somebody who's also in the broadcasting game? Yes. I kind of see myself as the Chris Hayes of podcasting um chris do what we do do two weeks of msnbc summer games that's all you gotta do just pre-tape it and or whatever however many weeks you're on vacation just summer games that's

what the msnbc audience wants anyway yes exactly well what the uh tbtl audience wanted although they didn't know it was a video from the most famous person who listens to our show and I'm sorry. even more famous than Rod Arquette, if you can believe it.

Yeah, because I don't know if you mentioned that for those who didn't listen to the live show, is like we had little video interstitials pre-recorded from friends of the show throughout the years, the Stew Bot, Steve Nelson, the Rod Father. I don't know if you'd consider him a friend of the show or a person who tried to end the show. But end rhymes with friend, but either way, and of course we got one from Chris as well.

And end is just a friend missing the F and the R and the I. probably some other letters show title but um yeah so we were playing videos and the last one was going to be our friend chris hayes and it just it was one of those things we're like two hours into it and again i was just i think it was we were supposed to play it before we brought phyllis and gus out maybe and i was just again i was even in that moment and even though things were going well i use this analogy a lot but my feeling of doing shows like that one and also when i'm doing live wire is you're like a duck and above the water you look very placid ideally but then below the water you're you're peddling paddling furiously and somehow in my furious paddling i forgot we forgot to play this uh john said he yelled at me from the side stage but i

didn't hear yeah phyllis said she heard john yelling at us from the side stage also and as

i was walking with my sub sandwiches down to the big time brewery also with my rolling my away rolling suitcase that we got for free for doing the ads becca said did you not play the chris video and i was like of course we played it oh really belligerent oh okay because here's the deal i we

want to play this sound but let me i was going to say this afterwards but i'd like to say it now actually i'm being quite serious i'm going to be quite earnest here and luke i'd like you for a chance i actually think on the show generally speaking you could spare my feelings more but in this case don't spare my feelings i really want and i really want to know your feelings about this because i felt bad about something so it was i think late on friday night very late uh we closed down a bar with some friends and some tens and um we uh on the cab ride home genevieve said oh why didn't you play the chris hayes video i'm like we did i remember seeing it she's like no i that was exactly what i said to becca i was like we didn't she's like well i think i she's she put it maybe a little bit more like a question it's like she's like i definitely saw it during sound check that's why i know it exists but i don't think you put it in the show i'm like oh man okay i guess not and i my brain was just sort of tangled you know what i mean like i mean it was a long it was a long show and actually more on that in a second but um the next day and this is what i felt bad about is i the next day i woke up and i texted you and john i'm like hey did we end up playing that chris hayes tape and i didn't mean it as like uh well i'll tell you what i just felt bad about that because we said goodbye at the end of the night on saturday night a really great night i think this show i honestly i don't i wouldn't say this if i didn't feel this i actually think the live show went really well and i think the live show went really well because you produced the living hell out of it luke and you drove that train i'm not kidding like i was proud of a few zingers i got in there but that's because you set me up so that all i had to do is do zingers and you were carrying that show and it occurred to me that like on saturday morning i didn't send a text just being like hey guys great show once again thanks for everything love you guys i just sent to why didn't we play that Chris Hayes did that hit you a little bit hard on Sunday morning it didn't it it did not um no that I felt bad I legitimately felt bad but I didn't want to like kind of extend the conversation in the moment but I did want to talk to you about that that did not

hit me that way at all and also I at Teddy's made it borderline uncomfortable for John how much I was thanking him and hugging him with my stanky ass armpits so I felt like the love was yeah but

i meant for you because i had a feeling john was on top i thought that you might have taken it not that i don't care about john's feelings but i thought you could have had a pang of like wow you know i kind of i had a lot of spinning plates during that show walsh like yeah sorry thanks for pointing out the first text i get from you is you fucked up no i didn't i mean maybe i should have

but i did not take it that way i was so freaking happy for it to be sunday morning yeah and for like have a cup of coffee in my hand becca and i went for a walk around the uw campus i subjected her to all my husky-dom because i have uh have taken a tour of the university of oregon campus where she went the only natural rival to the husky is the duck people they don't talk about that enough on those david attenborough films but um no i was in i was honestly just so blissed out on sunday just to have have it all kind of handled and uh and have it i felt really it went well as well and and just it was just such a wonderful night that i didn't no part of that email or text or whatever it was, struck me as like you were nitpicking. Okay, good.

Because I think it hit me when you wrote back, oh, yeah, my fault, cringy face or whatever. No, because I felt bad for our friend Chris, who took time out of his vacation.

Again, Chris, okay, vacation's over. Let's get back to television. Our friend Chris, who gets paid a lot of money to talk into cameras.

took time away from his life to record a thing, and I know it would have been a big thrill for the people in the room, and I just completely fumbled the bag on that. So, yeah, that response from me was genuine, and it wasn't related to you noting it. It was related to me messing up.

Okay, well, I felt bad for pointing out the one small little flaw, but I was mostly just sort of confused and questioning it. But anyway, let's take a listen to Chris's movie, if you don't mind.

Let's listen to, yeah, Senior Bidet Correspondent Chris Hayes.

Hey, dummies. Senior Bidet Correspondent Chris Hayes checking in here. I'm on vacation, as you can maybe tell from the backdrop here, because I've just been working so hard on generating just tons of Bidet content all year, just checking out every angle. We've got a big Squatty Potty feature coming up, so that's a little outside my lane, but I'm still going to do it. Um, I'm so sorry that I'm missing the 4,000th episode, but, uh, yeah, started 14 years ago, still on that train, many different iterations. Uh, it's been an amazing ride and, uh, congratulations, Luke and Andrew and to the, all the tenants, uh, who have made it happen, including me. Absolutely. Absolutely. Throw one back for me out there. Bye guys. Yeah. We did.

Many.

Thank you Chris Appreciate you taking the time to do that And also just being such a Just like you said 14 years in I'm trying to think I believe

I think that's his way of saying that he started listening Maybe once the show was around for a year

He was at the Nation when he started listening

And do you know how or why?

No Bubbles might have some theories

Sorry to interrupt but we've gotten several questions Like hey dummy style questions from listeners recently um how is a person that's famous and smart listening to this yeah but how did it start

and you don't know huh i don't know but what i do know is that i had gotten a couple of emails from a person named chris hayes and i mentioned it in passing to someone and they were like you mean from the nation chris hayes from the nation i was like well it's a common name i didn't know if that was the person and then i googled him i was like i do think that's who it is who is somehow listening to this nighttime AM radio product, and we were still on the radio in those days, but I don't know how it happened, but we're thankful for it. Do you know also

to add confusion to the matter, and we love them both equally, by the way, we have two listeners named Chris Hayes, and I think they're both... And that other Chris Hayes

writes for Newsmax. Oh, is that true?

That's right, they're both journalists. No. Oh, Newsmax, that's a super conservative one. Sorry. I actually thought for a second that maybe the other Chris Hayes does work in media in some way but I think maybe also lives in New York or at least New York State or something because the other Chris Hayes is always like hey other Chris Hayes from New York checking in

anyway sorry that I messed that up on the 4000th but I hope we've made it right here on the 4001 episode that was Chris's big hope was to be featured prominently on the 4001 episode I mean I sort of was I was sort of saying this at the top of the show but it is weird this is a weird number 4001 because i've been so fixated on 4 000 and again 5 000 6 000 that just seems so far away that seems so impossibly far away it's just interesting to be back in this like the numbers don't make me feel stressed the way they were for the last four months if that makes sense yes it absolutely does

they were ticking up like more and more and more and like as we were looking at them actually for me though it sort of peaked a few days ago i think like for this is not interesting but i think like Like three nine nine one might have carried more anxiety for me than three nine nine nine, because we already had so much in place by the time it was the day before the show. Does that make sense? Like we had way more things to figure out about a week or two before the live show than we did the day before the show.

Right. Yeah. From a technical standpoint and a bunch of other things. um it and then you know when we were backstage you john and i were sort of the show was about to start and i think we had a nice little moment the three of us and it really felt like and you haven't been through this because you haven't been married multiple times like i have but there's a point in a wedding in in one's wedding where you're like it is what it is like there's no like because you can obsess over like napkin choice and the color of the whatever like you can drive yourself crazy with the details and then there's a point where it's just like The music's playing. Someone's walking down an aisle. This is happening.

Someone's walking down an aisle. We'll find out when they get to the front.

Someone's getting a house. And then, like, you know what I mean? I kind of, in a good way, I felt that, like, basically about from, like, a half hour before.

the show from when we were up in the room talking to folks um before i put in the green room before the show started by that point i was like and i was wearing my paint splattered t-shirt i was like well this is going to be what it is you know what i mean like um like and i i felt a certain kind of release or like a i don't know a calm a peace peace came over me also it was very i mean i could there are about eight million examples of interesting people and things that happened But one of them was my babysitter, Suzanne Auger, was there. And she hadn't seen my mother in like 30 years probably or something. And my mom was also there. And they reunited. And it was adorable.

Oh, my gosh. Now, there was another kind of coincidental homecoming, right? I was talking to our friend Anna on Sunday. And she said that she was a big time brewing.

Oh, right.

And she said that there was somebody there. Rural brewing. Right, there was somebody at the 4000th episode Rural Brewery Conference There was somebody at the bar I think before the show Who didn't even know that the episode was going on Had no idea that TBTL was doing a live show Or that it exists But said something like, wait, is this the Luke Burbank? I know him from my youth or something Do you have any details on that?

My friend Greta from the Raider Report So I was on the little, like, did you have this at your high school, like a TV news report that was just within the school that would play, like, after Second Period or something?

No, I don't think so. We had announcements, but I don't remember it being, like, a 90210 kind of broadcast.

I was not allowed on the radio station C89, even though that was kind of the whole reason I went to Nathan Hale, because I got in a fight with the advisor for that class and was taken off the air before I got on the air. But I was able to weasel my way onto the little morning newscast called the Raider Report.

I'm surprised I didn't know that.

And you're surprised you didn't know I got kicked off of C89 or that I did the Raider Report?

I didn't know. I'm surprised that I didn't know about this early broadcasting story of yours.

Well, so Nathan Hale High School has this amazing high school radio station called C89. And it's one of the more popular, I think it might be the most popular high school-based radio station in America. because it's a legitimately i mean it's not in the top like five of radio stations in seattle but it's a popular station and when i was uh when jesus creek shut down slash i got kicked out for getting someone pregnant those were both things that happened at the same time by the way it was like the school shut down the church that was subsidizing the school went through this massive split and um like half of the parishioners left and so there wasn't the tithe money that was keeping the school going was no longer around so they had to they had to cancel the high school i also would have been kicked out because i got somebody pregnant so it was sort of like two things happening at once but i was trying to figure out where i would go for my senior year because i wanted to play basketball and i needed to take spanish because you need two years of high school spanish in washington to get into college and i the school that i had gone to jesus creek they didn't do spanish till junior and senior year so i basically went to school to play basketball and take spanish but while i was there i picked nathan hale because they had this radio station which i was very intrigued by but you had to take an intro to radio class which i've talked about many times on the show uh which involved watching the movie groundhog day and also the movie play misty for me that was the introduction to radio and the other thing was you the play misty for me was so that we learned that we should have pretend radio names so nobody stalks well you've

done a real i mean it stuck because you've done a really good job of sort of like shielding your

personal information exactly i'm not easily googleable yeah you can figure out where i am at any moment people have dropped air tags on me and they're still tracking me but um anyway so uh i i wanted to be on the radio station and the advisor put me so i did the intro to radio class i took all that stuff and then i was given a shift on the radio station that um it uh what's There was a conflict, a scheduling conflict With the shift I was giving And the Spanish class I was still taking So I went and asked the advisor If I could move the class If I could move my radio shift And she thought that was very kind of I don't know, presumptuous of me And then we had words And then I said something regrettable to her And I walked out of the room Never to be on the station again

If you've told me that, I didn't remember I'm not proud of this joke

Because it's real body-shamey But she basically said, do you think the world revolves around you? And then I made a joke about the mass of her body and the more likelihood that the world revolved around her.

Yeah.

So anyway, I wasn't on C89.

No.

But I was able to get on the Raider Report.

You may not be on this podcast tomorrow. so uh and Greta was the other person that was like on this little tv thing that we did and I remember and I hope Greta's okay with me mentioning this she I remember did an entire report she was really funny and really like I think ahead of her time I'm being very serious I believe that she did a special report on irregular periods IPs I think she called it she was like don't you hate it when you get an ip like you know which i'm guessing for our uh you know for the the women in our audience uh they know all about like the the idea of your period maybe not not following whatever the schedule is supposed to be for it or what you think the schedule is again this is like a senior in high school on the tv station at the school talking about ip in the 90s it's pretty edgy

stuff yeah i mean like people were not as frank about that stuff i don't you know today at that age it might not be notable but that is notable for yeah for the era we grew up in now i grew up in a specifically kind of conservative house we didn't talk about almost like kind of like any bodily functions or whatever i think i grew up in a somewhat repressed uh kind of situation specifically but yeah i would say for that time period though somebody doing stories about that

on the school station god good for greta man my big breakthrough was much less um sort of informative and body positive mine was some joke i was doing like a um the bit was i was doing an update or i was doing a report on what was for lunch that day so i'm standing in the lunch room and i'm talking about like here's what's on the menu but i hear music coming from the like actual kitchen and i go in and i push that door back and all of the lunch ladies are on the counter dancing to ice cube that was which i wait that i got them to do oh i was gonna say that was a bit okay god okay yeah yeah it was a bit but it was like what if these lunch ladies were like really into ice cube yeah and they went along with it they did they stood up on this thing and danced and we put the ice we put ice cube in like the music and under it god bless those

workers jeez i know right that is so awesome to be that game man of course also you can talk

anybody into anything i don't think i realized what an ask it was at the time yeah but um yeah that was the raider report and my friend greta who i haven't seen in years and years was uh was the the other half of the raider report and what an what an interesting um uh like little quirk of coincidence that she was like in that brewery that rural brewery and and somehow saw this thing related to my name like i wouldn't have even known that she was aware that i exist on this planet

anymore but did you so you did not get a chance to talk to greta yourself i think she was gone i

think she might have been there before i think so too and i was there after maybe greta will

check out the show now that's really cool she would like it greta we do a lot of stuff on irregular periods yeah i like um yeah there's something about like i i um i can't explain i think i've tried to explain it before to you my feelings about seattle like i love my life here i'm in love with this city but i can't imagine growing up here just because i can't imagine it Like I've lived the life that I've lived. Right. But when you tell stories like that, like running into people from your past, I love the fact that you still live in an area. I know you live in Portland now, but like you still spend a lot of time in Seattle and generally speaking in this area that you are still in a part of the country that you grew up in. So you can have those moments, you know, right. And some of my friends who still live in Cleveland, they have similar moments. Like, I ran into the so-and-so, and I'm like, man, yeah, like, I just, I have no complaints about how I lived my life because I wanted to move around a lot. I'm glad I got to live in some New England areas and some Southern California areas and up here and where I grew up. Like, I'm glad I got to see different parts of the country, and I'm glad that I ended up here. But sometimes I get a little, I don't know, I'm trying to avoid the word jealousy, but I get twangs of something when people like you and Camaro Kev, Bro Down, and Katie, who all of y'all, Actually, Katie didn't grow up around here. She just knows everybody in the world.

No, she grew up in Issaquah, I believe.

Yeah, but also in the Bay Area, right? So I kind of get that timeline confused. But anyway, sorry, Katie. I love you, but my brain is bad. But anyway, but yeah, I don't know. I love the fact, as everybody's been saying lately, I love that for you, and I sincerely do.

The thing that's, for me, interesting about that is I had a real, real deep kind of sense of, I don't know if wanderlust is the is the way to describe it but like I did not want to be the kind of person I don't want to say kind of person like it's a judgment I didn't want for my life I didn't want the case to be that I lived I was you know more or less when I was a young kid we moved to Seattle and then I grew up there and then I you know bought a house in the neighborhood I grew up in although that would be pretty awesome now actually if I could pull that off the real estate being what it is in seattle but like i didn't i wasn't the kind of person who wanted to just only live in the same place my whole life and and in fact the idea of running into somebody i went to high school with like maybe somebody who bullied me or who i didn't really like a lot running into them at northgate mall or something was a very actually like kind of like a an unappealing thought to me like the idea that i would run into eric trout at the sabaro at northgate when i'm 36 would just be a real bummer for me because it would just feel I hadn't experienced as much of life as I wanted to That's just how I felt But what's weird is having gone off And lived in a bunch of different places And gotten that out of my system I love I was saying this to Becca I was like we gotta come back to Seattle and visit Seattle Because I love being somewhere where I know where stuff is

Or where stuff used to be If you listen to Friday's show

Or where stuff once was But like I'm just horrible with like directions and i spend so much of my time disoriented like um i'm gonna be tomorrow i'm gonna be going up to doing a tv story up in like on the washington coast and i will be clinging to ways as i'm driving up there because i don't know where anything is and like it's probably easy i probably go up by five and i hang a left in longview and i cut through astoria it's like not complicated but i'm just bad with spatial navigation i love being in a town like seattle where i know where things are and i don't have to be on ways the whole time and like i i like the fact that somebody that i did the raider reporter report with wandered into that brewery and and and said to somebody like listener anna hey uh is this the luke burbank from the thing i love that that happened because but only because i went through the process of not being there for

for a long time yeah in fact I'm just remembering that as I was jealous I will use the word now because um I had a dream the other day you don't have to fire the music I'm not going to get into it but it did involve a friend of mine who um you know from my high school days in the Cleveland area and uh she was in and I realized wow I haven't talked to her in like I don't know like two years or something and so I sent her a text message just like hey man um just thinking about you you popped up in a dream last night hope everything's great she's like oh so good to hear from you uh you just came up recently because me and our mutual friend kristin two dear friends of mine from high school were throwing a party on uh july 29th do you think you could make it out i'm like oh my god i would but i have a big work event and then i started thinking like maybe i could weasel my way out of this work event like you we have john sklaroff on staff now at tbtl with you and john we have that chris hayes video we're gonna play chris hayes video we can play that a couple of times and so i decided not to broach that with you guys though there was a lot of other stuff going on i figured maybe all hands on deck was the way to treat the four thousandth episode but um while we were goofing around up there uh i was missing a it could have been old home days there in the west side of cleveland when's the last time i mean i know you visited

your dad and stepmom but like do you have you seen tony in in years like tony is a friend from

like all the way back in grade school and and maintained a friendship i'm in touch with him And still we will share text messages from time to time. But I have not seen him in person in literally decades now. But when I go back to Cleveland to visit my folks, I do have a few folks that I always make sure to make time for. My dad is always my dad is always very protective of my time. Keep in mind, like I moved away from Cleveland when I was still quite young. Right. Like a young adult, but young in my 20s. And so I would come back and I would, you know, visit them, but also make time to see my friends at night or whatever. And I think my dad was always like, you know, I haven't seen you in six months or a year, like make time, you know, prioritize family. And that's just the way he is. And he loves me and he's protective of my time. But like I'm 46 now. Right. And like I told him I'm planning on visiting again in November. And I said, you know, this time you guys have some whatever they're they're kind of renovating part of their house. So I'm like, you know, I'll probably just for my own benefit, just get an Airbnb or stay in a hotel when I come visit next time. He's like, all right, but you better be making time to see, you know, see us and visit us while you're here. And I think I insult him a little bit. I'm like, well, I'm not going for the sights. Like it was just so funny. Since they shut down Chainlink addiction, there's nothing for me, dad, except you. I mean, I can't bring you because we will spend all of our time at the Roxino, the Hard Rock Cafe Roxino hotline.

I spent a considerable amount of time. The one time I can remember being in Cleveland, I definitely enjoyed that place.

Oh, you did go. I forgot about that.

If it's the one that's in downtown. Yeah, I think it's in downtown. It's like in an old building. It's actually very interesting because usually casinos in this day and age are in kind of suburban or like exurban areas. and they're usually some you know kind of either a big glitzy building or a real

shithole like goldie's um but that roxino if that's the one it's interesting it's in a historic building yeah it just happens to be in downtown cleveland i haven't been there and i don't know

that i've even seen it but um that is the one kind of i think like any community or any city that is going to bring um a you know gambling facility into the heart of their city i think it was kind of controversial but you know obviously a also way of raising money for the city so I think it was something that was like heavily heavily debated for a long time before they opened it but I'm looking at pictures of it now and yeah that's cool at least they like at least they integrated it into that cool old midwestern architecture of Cleveland which is one of the coolest things Cleveland's got going for it

yeah it was like walking distance from like the Westin or wherever I was again I really enjoyed Cleveland like the lake is beautiful yeah I didn't actually go into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame but I walked by it they've got that casino in the middle of town like i'm a i'm a fan of the cleave maybe

we do our eight thousandth episode there yeah maybe yeah i mean they got the river they got the the lake um and i really do like the the kind of industrial nature of yes exactly no i think it's

a cool town hello and welcome to top story all right very quickly um the top story in my life at this moment is that this apartment building is actually doing me a real favor which is you know i think i was talking like maybe last week on the show about how i have sort of mixed feelings about moving out first of all moving is just a giant pain i'm also a bit nervous because i'm going from this you know very functional apartment that's got you know a nice nice appliances that work and hardwood floors and it's all set up it's all comfy for me right now to a just an absolute disaster area that is this house that i've been sort of working on and it's also that house is in a kind of it's it's in a part of the world i've never lived in before which is to say it's not in a big city it's also not in a cute small town it's just kind of in a random area of washington state and so anyway i've been feeling i've been having sort of mixed feelings about i think long term it's going to be really good because it's going to force me to get really real about this project it's also going to save me a lot of money i don't know if you know this andrew but we're small business owners now we're not rolling in the dough we don't have that apm money we don't have that mike resler money anymore no uh this apartment though uh has is really is really not making me uh feel as sad about leaving it because i'm talking about like as an organism today right before we're supposed to dial up this fire alarm just starts wailing away and it wasn't a thing where they sent an email and said we're gonna like test the whatever and like i get it why it needs to be loud because like if it's really on fire you need people to know that they need to get out of the building but when you know it's not on fire it is deeply frustrating and everybody we all had our pets i had two cats with me i had bubbles in her backpack i had holly in her like carry thing which she hates like everyone was ejected from this building at like 11 in the morning or something into the bright daylight with their pets apparently everyone in this building

owns small pets too you know you mentioned in your intro that you were out there with cats which was not something that i considered when you first mentioned this to me via text today you said might have to dial up a little bit late i'm dealing with this but um so a fire alarm is a loud thing It must be hard to scoop up cats and get them into carriers. Some of my cats are hard to get into carriers anyway. One of them loves it and lives in the carrier all day, even though it's tucked in the back of a closet. But, you know, one of them really resists going in there. And then you have a loud fire alarm going off, freaking the cats out.

Bubbles is just kind of a moron. So she just doesn't care. Like, I can just pick her up and put her in the like for all of her, I don't know, wild ways. she doesn't mind being put in her carrier holly does not like it and they're really and holly is a you know she's thick with two c's i know she doesn't want to do something like it's gonna be hard because becca's in salt lake city for a work conference this week so i'm on double cat duty and the thing and again it's like in every room of the apartment there is a crazy loud speaker yeah that plays this and i'm trying to like get holly into her thing and she's fighting me and it's going and i'm wearing bubbles on my back because i'm stupidly i already i put the backpack on like i didn't need to do that but i just was like in a panic yeah so like i'm wearing one cat on my back and i'm trying to stuff this other cat into her thing that she doesn't want to go in and but i mean that's what i just did was was one one thousandth of the of the loudness but what was really frustrating was okay we know the building's not on fire you can just look around I'm like, it's not burning. There's no smoke. Like, this is something. that has to do with an alarm being pulled or something that seems like something that should be able to be fixed in like let's say 10 minutes we were outside for so long i went back in and

got a new yorker you went i'm not even kidding they let you yeah because the fire let me tell

you this you know firefighters are like listen i know we have firefighters who are who are listeners firefighters i think are sort of like they're like cops that we don't have complicated feelings about like they're first responders and we love them and we just like i think when a firefighter shows up we all just like cool uh we're we're here for this when a cop shows up there can be mixed feelings well speak for speak for yourself afab yeah exactly but um i was legit kind of annoyed at the firefighters because i was like aren't you first of all one of they were in full gear i guess that's protocol one guy had an axe i was like what are you gonna chop your way into this steel glass apartment building like i know it's the this is what we do he had an axe i was like can you use an axe to turn this alarm off like i was so annoyed dude because we were a we're supposed to be doing the show and b i'm like babysitting two cats and it's loud outside the entirety the entire population of this apartment building is now standing around for i'm not exaggerating 50 minutes waiting for this thing to go off and I was like there has to be an off button and then it's so funny because I got a little taste of how irrational and how easily annoyed I am because the firefighters walked by and I said to this guy standing next to me I go well that's overkill because they had their whole like helmets on and their thing like they were going into like a back draft and the guy goes well there's probably a protocol I was like yeah but come on he was like he's basically saying like what's wrong with you

Yeah, he's the Andrew. Or no, you know what? He's the anybody except for Luke.

Okay, all right, fine, fine. You know what? Why is it that on Sunday morning, the one piece of feedback you had for me was that I blew the Chris Hayes audio? Well, I'm trying to keep you from ruining this show, too. Too late. I know. I was just in a mood, because it was just like, well, I was talking, I think, maybe, sometimes I forget if I was talking to you or my girlfriend. I was talking to either you or Becca About how I have a really Oh it was when we were in the cargo van When we were getting the stuff At some point I think I was saying How I have a really kind of Visceral response to loud noises That's like disproportionate Like if somebody drives by On a really loud motorcycle It really gets to me Or if somebody If there's a loud noise That I'm not expecting Like there's a lot of people That it just like that happens And they go boy that was loud It creates a sort of an anger in me And a panic

I've seen it yeah

and a response that's again it's it's not like a proportional or proportionate or proportional it's not in it's not in line with whatever the event was it just does something to me so for 45 to 50 minutes i'm standing outside this building just going because like the building itself is just like radiating these sounds and so then the fire guys show up and i'm like okay good well can i'm like there's just got to be an off button that they just know to go to this must happen a lot right like and it just didn't happen it was it was taking so long and then the fire was it hot as hell too by the way just it was warm but i was i was in shorts see this andrew this is exactly why you dress the way you dress because i was standing outside with a bunch of strangers in shorts holding two cats which would not be your move your all of your outfit choices are based on the possibility that you will be in the moment that i was in yeah i mean i wear

shorts like i'm wearing shorts now i don't mind running to the grocery store or something in shorts but they are short but they're not like gym shorts you know what i mean they're not like basketball shorts they're like shorts with a zipper uh and a button i was surprised let me

just double down on my uh my unlikeability here on episode 4001 i was surprised because like i'm in um what am i wearing i'm wearing like a like a long sleeve t-shirt from um everlane and i'm wearing some nike shorts that are like but they're like nice they're not like i know nike makes you think they're running they're not they're like kind of canvas becca got them for me they're like they're like something you'd buy at like j crew and i have like shoes and socks on and i still felt kind of underdressed out there and again it was like we're recording this a little bit late today normally we recorded about 10 a.m but this was at like 11 a.m or something i was surprised That most of the people from my building Are in pajamas Like I figured I'm kind of like The casual one because I do this weird Podcast with you and I don't You know if I haven't done my run yet which I haven't done my run yet today It's like I'm usually kind of a little bit Kind of like a schlub Everyone in my building was in their pajamas It turns out everyone in this building At all times is wearing their pajamas Unless the fire alarm goes off and we have to go outside

I obviously I am not like that And I'll be

Thank you.

honest with you like and we've talked about this on the show before like I truly believe in my heart of hearts people should live their lives like that does not hurt me in any way if you want to live your life in pajamas but it is one of the things that I have to work really hard not to make snap judgments about or be judgy about and I think that you know I think it's generational in a certain way and also the pandemic I think really changed norms and the work from home culture but like and again I am the outlier here like I know I will obviously I take it to an extreme I used to sleep with boots on i used to literally sleep with my boots on like that's all you need to know like

i i'm the i'm isn't that a thing don't they say sleep with your boots on do they like i think that's like it's an idiom of some kind and you're doing it i were doing i used to like for real and

so i'd like i'm talking about like when high school when i when who knows what i was doing i was wearing my doc martens all the time or what have you but um but all that is to say like obviously like we live in a culture where people i mean there are a million cart new yorker cartoons about it or whatever like you're wearing a tie up top and underwear down below or whatever like that is our culture or no underwear if you're jeffrey tubing i'm just so deeply uncomfortable with that like right there people are like yes it's work from home day that means i can just wear my my socks and my my tbtl tonight pants and an old ready um shirt or whatever like that wouldn't be comfortable for me even if i didn't have to be on a zoom meeting like and again i'm i'm the outlier but i'm also just admitting that i'm with you it's a it's a hard thing for me to wrap my mind around being comfortable in pajamas in the middle of the day or like evening as you're running out to grab some ice cream or something yeah basically i was like i was like oh i'm so

embarrassed of how kind of underdressed i am and it turned out i was in formal wear yeah

compared to everybody else yeah well i mean again you're somebody who wore a tuxedo on stage last night while i was dressed frumpily i was gonna make a joke about nice jacket the jacket was okay i saw some photos of it the jacket's a little frumpier than i than i think i thought i knew it was like a not a formal jacket it's a very casual jacket I wear I think it's kind of seen better days now it looked a little bit lumpy on me I think so I might kind of I'm not retiring the jacket but I don't think I would use it in that context anymore but um anyway I was going to make a joke about like it's just rare that you see two people on stage and one of them is wearing formal wear and one of them isn't you know I was gonna make a joke about feeling a little bit overdressed

next to you um yeah I mean I I didn't want you to feel any pressure I mean first of all I thought it looked really nice and i thought it was a nice you know i thought we you know it didn't look weird i've seen now like 1000 photos of us on stage boy let me tell you it's a real angles game with me andrew because you know we have this little article in current magazine and john was kind of coordinating with what the photography was going to be and there were some pictures where there are some pictures from the show where i think wow actually it's still semi-working burbank like it's oh you it's you know like be nice to yourself this is okay you look reasonably okay and then there are other pictures i'm like what happened to you and it's the same night and i'm the same person and it just has to do with the angle of the picture and the lighting and stuff but it's like it is man it is it's wild the the the what's the word i'm looking for the the sort of um volatility of my appearance in photos the dynamic range the dynamic range is too dynamic

it is way too dynamic hey i don't know why this just popped in my head and i'm not going to get into this now but i want to mention something luke that i would really like to talk to you about on tomorrow's podcast which is the other big thing that happened to me this weekend um and it happened to me on sunday at 4 45 as i took my seat uh near the screen at the imax theater to sit down oh yes heimer with genevieve i have so many thoughts about the movie and my um a couple of things that i experienced while watching the movie that i think you will be very interested

in and i'm real i mean all i want to talk about is this movie dude i'm i'm so uh intrigued i want to hear about that and i i actually want to see that movie but like becca and i discussed possibly doing the full-on like double feature now i feel like it would be a violation of trust if i because She's out of town for the whole week. And Oppenheimer's playing down the street from me, like literally two blocks, and I'm very tempted to just go kill an afternoon watching it, but I think that would be a violation of the tacit agreement we have. But anyway, I'm very curious about that movie, and I'm very curious your thoughts about that movie.

Yeah, I also, having seen it, and we can talk more about it tomorrow, but I just, I feel more than, I haven't seen the Barbie movie yet, but I feel more strongly than ever that you do not, You want to close your night with Oppenheimer You do not want to just like It's a feel good pick It's not like you don't want to watch it in the bright Sunlight and come outside like you want to You want to chew on it you want to go back home In the evening and think about what you Saw

I saw it because it's Killian Murphy week Because he obviously plays Oppenheimer

I didn't realize he did a screen test For Batman And I forget which, maybe it was the one Robert Pattinson, was Robert Pattinson Batman

He was, I could not make I didn't see that in the theater Which means I had a short attention span But I could not get into that movie

I don't know if it was that one or a different one That somebody else got, but it's very interesting To see Cillian Murphy playing Bruce Wayne And they have him in the full on suit Like the whole Bat suit

This was just like kind of a screen test that you saw

Yeah it was a screen test that's out now because his Q rating is through the roof. So I guess they're just finding anything and everything related to Cillian Murphy. But the thing that we do need to do today before we wrap things up and get out of here is to say rest in peace to Paul Rubens.

Yeah, big time.

I mean, what an absolute bummer. Paul Rubens has passed away at age 70. I guess he had been quietly battling cancer for his agent said for a number of years. I thought it was quite heartbreaking. He released a statement through his agent. I mean, my sense is he must have known that he wasn't going to live much longer, and he apologized. Did you see the statement of him?

So I think this is a rare one that before I got the news updates on my phone, I just randomly opened up Instagram, and my friend Monica had tweeted, and I didn't notice the broken heart emojis at first. She just posted this stunning photo of Paul Rubens. Rubens like you could tell is a somewhat recent photo wearing just a black suit and a black background so actually a lot of the detail was sort of lost but it was very sharp looking and he had a little Pee Wee Herman doll coming out of his breast pocket and it was both like it was both like extremely distinguished but also with you know the the levity of the little doll coming out of his pocket and I just saw that photo I was like oh man bomb photo and then i saw a bunch of broken heart emojis above it and i was like oh no like this one luke i can never tell which one of the you know which of these types of stories are really going to hit me in the feels and like whoa i was like no no no no no and so i so i clicked through and i realized that was the photo that they posted on instagram which i think was the official way of of breaking the news to the public the family posted this photo and luke i i'm totally guessing here but I'm guessing that he probably posed for that note for that exact purpose right like when he probably realized that at some point an announcement would have to be made it sounds like he wrote a statement and potentially dressed in all black for this thing and it's a beautiful photo and just like I can barely talk about this without choking up.

yeah i mean like i don't if i was gonna like write down my big kind of comedy influences or the the comedians that i sort of think really shaped me as a kid or whatever i don't even know if i would have written down peewee herman but upon reflection he was so big in my life as a kid and like you know peewee's big adventure is just like that movie i saw that movie at oak tree cinemas by where you are these days and like like there are so many go-to jokes from that movie that i've been saying throughout my adult life and also like i mean he was in mystery men he was in it was on murphy brown he was in a lot of things brown i didn't know that he was nominated for an

emmy for his performance on murphy brown oh interesting did you were did you know that

a reef no i just saw it in the obit that i read about him but like uh he you know he just like this peewee herming character was something that he came up with when he was at the groundlings in la but he was a very talented comedian on a lot of levels and in fact i remember a few years ago when i was still living in bellingham i heard him on conan o'brien needs a friend and he was just so delightful like a real kind of like student of hollywood history like he just knew everything about it and really funny and really self-effacing and really not peewee herman you know what i mean like whatever that sort of cloying nature of that character might be paul rubens was in real life really the opposite of that and i don't think i'll be able to i probably won't be able to find this on the fly and maybe it won't even pay off but like i was um looking at i think maybe Instagram or TikTok yesterday. And Kathy Griffin had posted a birthday message that Paul Rubens had sent her. And she basically said, this was the real Paul Rubens. And it was him wishing her a happy birthday, but in like the funniest way. I'm trying to see if I can find this on the fly here. And we're going to run into that thing if I do find it, Andrew. that uh is like the audio is not going to play let me see if i can find it here but um uh let's see uh okay here we go i'm going to try to play this from here all right i don't know if this is going to work or not but this is a birthday message that paul rubens this is from like recently just sent

Kathy Griffin is it it's Griffin I did an entire TV profile of her and I'm unsure what her last name is so here we go oh shit it wants me to log in wait hold on I might have it you have it yeah play it yeah let me now just imagine again I'm not I don't want to like I don't want to over promise on this but just imagine this is just a birthday video that your friend sends you on

your birthday I'm having trouble here actually that went to a different post okay well sorry

about the point is he left her a very funny like classically paul rubens message and one of the things that i've been seeing from people who knew him and loved him okay i'm sorry to cut you off

but i think it's her it's got to unmute it like that well well well kathy

that's right kath television's paul rubens pvf kathy I don't think I have to tell you who I am I don't have to and I won't Kathy let me ask you a question What would ever possess me To take this kind of time From my busy celebrity schedule I'll be right there everybody To make a video like this for you Why? Why would I do it? Why? I ask the question I'm going to answer it I'm crazy, Kathy. Crazy about you. I'm crazy about you. I hope you know that. I don't know if you really know the extent of it. I mean, I've got my yearly Happy Birthday Kathy messages and I'm thinking about you, Kathy. and holidays but well I maybe it does add up I'm practically stalking you all the time listen in all seriousness I really like you like you and I'm not sure if you know the extent of it but I really really like you alright I love you I blurted it out there it's out there I love you I really do. Seriously. I love everything about you. You're genuine and real and hilarious. You're crazy talented and crazy. I'm in awe of you. I respect you. I just, I like everything about you. Really, seriously. I really do. Honest. Come on. I hope you believe me because it's true. And I want you to know I'm thinking about you today and sending you so much love and light And that I hope that this year, beginning for you today, is filled with kindness, joy, love, and happiness, Kathy. Seriously. All the very, very best. Dude!

I have, like, I feel emotional listening to that, thinking about how much he loved Kathy Griffin. You know what I mean? Like, that message is not for me.

Yeah.

But, like, that level of, like, friendship is just really sweet to me.

I agree. I was getting very choked up. I love the pompousness, too, that he did. Like, that actually takes you on a journey. Right. I don't know how well thought that was.

Why would I, celebrity Paul Reubens, take time out of my day?

Yeah, he seems like a really special person. Yeah.

And I also, I mean, there are so many great moments in the movie, A Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. I also saw Big Top Pee-Wee in the theater.

I remember being disappointed by Big Top Pee-Wee. I was not. Let's be honest.

It didn't hit for me as well as Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. But today, or maybe it was yesterday, as I was seeing all the different memories of Paul Rubens, somebody just posted the end of Pee-Wee's Big Adventure when... I had totally forgotten that the plot line was they make a movie. Or there is a movie made that he's a character in, but it's like a James Bond character, right?

Yes.

What is the order of events? How is it that there's a movie made about him?

Well, because his adventure, I don't remember what the actual connection is, but his adventure of trying to retrieve his bike takes him through Hollywood, if you'll recall. There's almost a montage scene where the people who stole his bike are running through a studio lot, and he's kind of chasing them, trying to get the bike. Or I might have that backwards. It might be that he's now gotten his bike back somehow and now he's running from the thieves or riding away from the thieves.

And so a real a real monkeys type situation. Yes. You're chasing the bad guys. Now the bad guys are chasing you.

And what is the there's a there they're they're shooting a music video for the. Oh, God. What was that? Hair metal band is literally in the movie. And they're like filming a video for a famous song that I'm blanking on right now. Not it's not Motley Crue. No, it's not Motley.

crew it's not white snake but it's like that and he like I'll look it up he literally rides through that scene so anyway I think somehow then eventually he gets his bike back but I think maybe through that I don't remember what his Hollywood connection is but then they make a movie um about peewee trying to twisted sister by the way oh twisted sister yes exactly and there's a car I believe they're like kind of singing on top of a car anyway so they end up making a movie about his life but instead of trying to find his bike I think he's like trying to recover some micro fish or some top government top secret government plans

and he's played by like this i don't know who that guy is but like some like hunky soap star of the era and morgan fairchild is like is dotty i believe or something is that who it is i think i

think that was lost i watched that movie i had a vhs of that movie luke where the um i think i've told you about this before i was always confused by it because the vhs that we owned of that was not cropped properly and so there's like scenes where the car is driving at night and you see the signs going by but you can clearly see that the signs are on tracks and the signs are moving not the car and i always thought that was a joke in the movie but it turns out i had a rare vhs tape that wasn't cropped right i don't know where it is i let somebody borrow it in like

college i never got it back um the end of the movie the movie that he's in they go to the drive in again i saw this movie years ago i've probably seen it two or three times in my life but i forget so many of the details but the the whole amazing joke is that peewee herman is not playing the star of the movie he is a hotel bell bell he's a bellhop um and he is uh and and his big scene he is his voice is over dubbed so it's not even his real voice and it's such a great psychic Playing the audio is not going to do it justice. First of all, everyone listening to me has probably seen the movie. I'm not telling you anything. But it made me laugh so hard when I was watching this because I had forgotten about this. So here's a little bit of that. Again, it probably doesn't work his audio.

Have you got any messages for room 104? The name's Herman. P.W. Herman.

No, nothing right now, Mr. Herman.

That's Pee-wee. That's coming out of Pee-wee's mouth.

That's Pee-wee. That's Paul Rubens.

I swear, this used to be an earworm for me. I used to go around saying, Mr. Erman, Beijing, Mr. B.W. Erman.

I'll be in the bar.

And now also Pee Wee's at the drive-in. He's got snacks. He's taking them to people.

Mr. Erman, Mr. Erman, you have a telephone call at the front desk.

When I was a kid, and I'm totally wrong about this, but I thought the joke was that that was John Wayne's voice. Oh, I could see why you would think that as a kid. Yeah, as a kid, I was like, oh, and then he goes into this John Wayne voice. Yeah. And I'm trying to remember who that actor is. I mean, you said you didn't know, but I think it's like, I think he's, he's not the man who's famous for being tan, right? Who's the.

No, that's, that's George Hamilton. Yeah. Okay.

I always thought it was George Hamilton, but it's not. Thank you for saving me there.

007 Agent Pee Wee Paging Mr. Herman.

Mr. B.W. Herman. Mr. Harmon Like why did they choose that voice I wonder if that is a voice that Paul Rubens is doing But then also they overdub it anyway Just to make it weirder Like why that voice

I don't know it's so funny though Cast Pee Wee's Big Adventure cast Let's see here okay Let's see Judd Omen plays Mickey He's the guy who's I believe he's the guy who cut the Tag off of the mattress

Oh yeah the guy who's driving Yeah, that's the car scene where he's driving late at night Yeah, and they have to drive through a police checkpoint

Let's see here I'm scrolling, bear with me Milton Berle is in it?

I think he's on one of the Hollywood lots I could be wrong about that I think he plays himself While you look for that, can I remind you

Is that a young James Brolin? I didn't even recognize him He's so young

Oh, that's the answer? I think it's James Brolin? I believe it's James Brolin Wow, I wouldn't have realized he would have even been old enough to play that role but do you remember we talked i mean this is getting a little bit far afield of paul rubens himself but i mean it was his creation um him and uh burton but um do you remember the story of crazy larry that we told on the show not all that long ago when somebody wrote it up in like mel magazine or something there's a scene like this movie amazing larry oh yeah what i say crazy larry yeah yeah like it's a care to share what does he say do you have something you like to share with the rest of us amazing larry and you see like this punk rock looking guy like with like a spiky yeah mohawk and like a big dangly ear yeah and then he never shows up in the movie again right isn't that what the story was that like i don't remember he never gets a line

And they wanted to take it out I feel like the studio wanted to take it out

I remember that I remember them Because it wasn't Because they'd cut the other stuff Involving Amazing Larry So him just yelling randomly at him Didn't make sense But he thought to leave it in

I think that's the story Yes And it's so much funnier Because you never see Amazing Larry again Here I'll play this So this was always one of my favorite scenes In the movie Pee-wee Herman, he's just lost his bicycle, and now he wants to sleuth it out. So he gets all of his friends together in his basement, and it's really dark. There's one single light bulb kind of hanging from the ceiling, and he's becoming more and more deranged as he's going through just piece of evidence after piece of evidence. His friends are getting tired of him. Exhibit B. Another photograph. What's missing from this picture? It's just a photo of him.

It's just me without my bike. Is this something you could share with the rest of us, Amazing Larry?

That's it. You just see Amazing Larry with this multicolored mohawk, just look shocked. And that's it. And I think Amazing Larry might have passed away in the past several years. He did.

Maybe this is why it came up. His name was Lou Cattell. And I wonder, because he passed away in 2021. i wonder if maybe that was what like what prompted us to talk about amazing larry but i mean

god i now i really i i think i'm gonna watch that movie it holds up man i watch it from time to time it's been a it's been a minute now but i used to just again we had it on vhs so if you grew up in our era you know if you have a movie on vhs you're gonna watch it a lot you know um and so i was pretty familiar with the movie and i swear it whole and again it's like tim burton's first Featuring film, I think, you know

Well, the thing that's really wild By the way, let's see Sorry, I'm seeing something on MovieWeb About Luke Cattell, a.k.a. Amazing Larry God, I love his outfit I'm going to wear that to the next To the 8,000th episode, I'm going to dress like Amazing Larry But like, I also I think I knew this, but I had forgotten Until I was brushing up on Paul Rubens That the movie came out before The TV show, which is wild

Oh, I don't think I realized that, okay

So he was doing this character at the Groundlings, and then he was doing, like, kind of a show in L.A. with it. It was traveling around. I think there was an HBO special. Then he makes the movie with Tim Burton.

Yeah, and the HBO special, by the way, had Phil Hartman in it, too.

Right, Phil Hartman co-wrote, I think, Pee-wee's Big Adventure. I believe they actually had a falling out at some point. Yeah, I heard an interview. Again, I've just been like, all of this Paul Rubin's stuff has been, like, just popping up in my various feeds. I think they had a slight falling out about not the people like Phil Hartman who were sort of co-creators of the peewee thing. When it took off like a rocket ship, I think that his feeling was that they were not sort of cut in on it the way that maybe they would have liked to have been.

That must have been hard on Paul when Phil Hartman's life was also cut so tragically short. That's hard to live with.

But yeah, then after the movie Then they did the TV show CBS did the TV show As like a Saturday sort of kids show Which is wild Because I would totally assume It would be the other direction Like he gets this TV show And it's so popular that he gets this movie The movie was before the TV show Which is really odd

Yeah, and also And then the TV show I mean, it's complicated The Pee Wee Herman character Was not originally made as child program right children's programming it was quite bawdy in fact and kind of gritty i think from the clips i would see with phil hartman on stage but i kind of kind of randy blue humor and stuff and then the movie again it's tim burton it's dark you know like and the large march scene scared the living hell out of you i don't know if that was made for children now but then the tv show it really did become like children's programming which is why when he had a scandal later i think it hit different for people because you could argue that it was a private mistake that he made but because at that point he was seen as a children's performer i think and in that day and age i think it ended up it's kind of scarring his reputation even more than than it

should have yeah and can i just say on that subject i mean what he was what apparently happened was he was uh let's just say uh enjoying himself in an adult theater in a way that was you know not technically legal but i what i would say is what do you think those places are for like you know i mean everyone has the right to feel safe and not bothered wherever they are but i would say that of the places where someone might be behaving in the way paul rubens was behaving an adult movie theater seems kind of like that's kind of the reason and then there was this other thing where he had this huge collection of So

of like erotica but like i i don't get the sense i didn't know the guy but oh i didn't know about this this was a thing this was the second thing that and it was it was after the movie theater thing so it also really kind of like sort of i think created a sense uh for some people of him in the world he had this huge collection of like but when i say erotica my i didn't look at the collection my sense is it's like burlesque things and stuff that's like you know sort of saucy but not the point of it is not to be pornographic the point of it is like you know it's it's it's collector stuff and in that trove of stuff he had because he had actually a very big extensive collection that I think he like had you know I don't know how he displayed it but it was like a thing he collected and in there somewhere there were some photos that it did involve underage people I think from like years and years we're not talking like a picture of somebody underage from 1980 we're talking about something in this massive collection he had and you know who the other person who he shared the collection with the principal from ferris bueller's day off you know what ratzenberg i totally remember that part of

it i think i blocked out that that rubens was part of this at all i always whenever i see that principal now i'm like oh that's the guy who had the and it's so funny because i i i don't know i don't i don't remember the details of it but i always thought i when i see that guy on tv i'm like oh god dude you had some stuff now paul rubens i'm realizing was part of that and i want

to defend it well i just i don't know enough about the details but the sense i have let me put it this way if the people who are publicly mourning you are an indication of what your character was or at least what people perceived you how people perceived you the people that knew paul rubens i do not think were put off by my sense is and i'm going to say this without any information on the matter so you know take this with a grain of salt my sense is that there was essentially a couple of misunderstood a couple things that were sort of blown out of proportion or were were things that made it seem like certain kinds of stuff was going on that i don't think was really the case because he did not he was not like uh it wasn't like his friends were no longer his friends and it isn't like people aren't publicly mourning him and it wasn't like he wasn't still invited on conan o'brien and talk shows and things you know what i mean like i think if there would have been more there there i think his life would have looked really different than it did and that i take that to mean that it was not a thing where this was a person who was predatory or behaving in predatory ways. I think it was a couple of things that went down, but the people that knew him still loved him, still had him on their shows, still put him in movies. So I take that to mean that it wasn't something that was so upsetting that the people in his life were like, whoa,

we can't be part of your life anymore. Yeah. I'm reading here. Those charges were ultimately dropped in exchange for Paul pleading guilty to a lesser charge of possession of an obscene image, which listen if it involves children i understand why it's illegal but we also just have a possession of an obscene image right is this uh dirty dancing wait what is the movie what's the dancing movie where the town is doesn't uh footloose is this footloose i don't know what i'm talking about here no um but anyway i don't want to i don't you know i specifically don't want to spend much time on this anymore because i don't like i'm with you i don't think that he was guilty of anything other than, you know, I don't think he was guilty of anything.

Yeah, I don't think that he was somebody who was an evil person. I think his legacy is really kind of standing for itself when you look at the way that he's being remembered and memorialized. And I think that that's an indication of something. And, yeah, I'm pretty sad that the guy died.

Me too. And here's where I want to end things, and I'm saying this seriously, and I assume that they listen to this show. Adam McKay, Will Ferrell, please work it out. It kills me to know that Rubens and Phil Hartman were busy.

Now, maybe they got, by the way, maybe they got back on the same page. You know what it really was? It was a clip. I guess Howard Stern had a TV show, but not the one on E! that everybody saw. He had some other TV show or some special. it's howard stern interviewing phil hartman talking about paul rubens getting popped in that movie theater in sarasota and in that conversation i know it was like the weirdest thing i was like seeing on like tiktok or something and in that phil hartman kind of but but but the other thing i'll say is that what uh howard says well what did you say to him about it and phil hartman says i never brought it up so it wasn't like they had like lawyers were involved like i think phil hartman was bummed i think he also it was like they had talked they were they weren't not speaking but he hadn't really brought it up with him but he had kind of a bad feeling about it like i did about that email you sent on sunday but the difference is i'm bringing it up now so

we're clearing the air right here i go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a

female no man it's not from a female every week i say i'm gonna get bubbles nails trimmed i'm too afraid to do it myself yeah and um and then i forget and then she does what she

just did which is she literally climbs up my body yeah using her nails like freaking sylvester

stallone in cliffhanger bingo will do that to me sometimes if i'm like sort of bent like if he's up on a i don't know like a shelf or something or the the tape i let him up on this one table um like if i if i bend over a little bit he'll like kind of reach up to me like he wants a hug almost he like he's very expressive with his paws and so he'll sort of like reach out to me i'm like oh hey buddy and then I'll kind of bend over and then he'll then he'll take that moment to be like I want to go for a ride and so then he kind of like claws up me did I tell you about this like that's his one of his favorite things to do is to go for rides on my back and I mean he will crawl up on me until I'm naturally kind of bending over a little bit to make him comfortable and then he will sometimes just like sit like a king up there sometimes he will curl up while I walk around the house like he's the king now do I have to do this no but it's hard to say no to him because

he's my best friend oh he is such a cutie too oh my gosh he's a weird looking cat you gotta admit

now that his hair has grown out long don't you think he's very weird looking and again i love this cat i could not love this cat anymore i don't think he's weird looking at all he's like a weird

little sheep or something huh i think you think his tail is out of proportion his tail is ridiculous

it's the funniest thing in the world it's so god damn big you mentioned something about um bubbles puffing up her tail the other day and i was like i wonder what it looks like when bingo doesn't puff up his tail anyway let's play a voicemail here uh this is from our friend hauser luke i don't think you would have um heard this j-dog exactly how do you come up with these nicknames um genevieve and i were chatting on the podcast the other day when you were out about what is the lowest denomination of money that you would find on the street and still pick up i found a dollar the other day in my garage that's great i'm wondering if hauser actually put that down um i found a quarter earlier that day and i sure as hell bent over to pick it up silver money yeah exactly and genevieve said quarter was her like she she might not go for a nickel or a dime like the quarter might be her cutoff anyway that reminded hauser of uh this

of this hey dummies it's jonathan from seattle um i was just listening to the episode um where where Andrew and Genevieve were talking about, like, what the lowest denomination of money that they would walk by is. And it got me thinking about this little game that some friends and I made up when we were on a job. So I work in video production, and there's a lot of standing around that happens, just standing around waiting for stuff. And so we were on location in maybe, I think, Portland, and we figured out that a $1 bill is the perfect amount of money to be able to give away to someone and be able to exceed the joy you get for the cost of the dollar, if that makes sense. And if there's like 10 people watching, it becomes highly entertaining. So what you do is you take a dollar bill, and everyone's got their own way of doing this, but you can fold it up in a certain way, put it on a sidewalk that's like down the street, and then people are – you just kind of casually watch people walk over it or pick it up. And it's a really fun game, and it only costs a buck per play. And when people are really excited about it, it is a huge hit.

Anyways, power out. Please play that game I'm going to give you my address You know my address, Hauser Just play that game outside my house Because it'll pay off for you and me

I would People walk over a dollar? I mean, that's one of the Paper money? I mean, are you kidding me? Who are these Rockefellers? Because first of all, if it's paper money My brain is like, is it a hundo?

Yeah, you pick it up and you find out

I also feel like money paper money behaves differently than any other I don't know if substance is the right word but like I feel like and I've had this happen before I've been like driving down the road with someone and I see money on the side of the road I'm like I'm pulling over and they're like how did you even notice that I'm like it behaves differently than just like a piece of paper or a parking ticket or a I don't know a flyer for a concert like there's something about and it probably is because it is physically a certain kind of material that you don't see a lot you don't encounter a lot in the world but I feel like paper money I can see that shit from a mile away there's something that's very hardwired in my brain to look out for that and I cannot imagine stepping

over a dollar and ever since and I just recently retold the story when Genevieve was on the show but ever since that time that my I found I believe a $20 bill when I was a kid and I was like mom mom I found a 20 or something and she was like be quiet and put it in your pocket like what are you doing somebody's gonna claim it's theirs um uh because of that now on the and it's been too long luke it has been so long since i found paper money and it's like literally my favorite thing in the world um

I'm going to come leave some money around you.

You and Hauser should just come and sprinkle some money around my house. But now what I do, if I see that money, I just try to as quickly and casually pick it up and pocket it without making any deal. And sometimes you don't even know what it is. And you want to talk about Schrodinger's dollar bill. You got that thing in your pocket. You don't even know what you're sitting on yet. Is it a hundo? Is it a one-do? Who knows? I know. You ever do the move where you stand on it?

Oh, I wonder if I have. I feel like I've done that for coinage before I mean it seems a little shady Because what's being What I'm indicating if I do that is that I don't want people to know that I have This thing under my shoe right now Which is like I really and truly If somebody lost money and they were like Hey I just dropped a $10 bill And I found it I would of course give it to them Or if it were a thing where I thought I could reunite The person with the money I would absolutely do that That being said I've been in Like you know airports before something where it's like there's money on the ground you don't want to for some reason I want to bend right over and pick it up so you just stand on it for a minute just kind of like assess the situation you're kind of looking around is anybody looking for money what's going on but now I have

I'm possessing it I remember my mom when she said be quiet like I do remember her and I'm sort of like realizing this as an adult I think she sort of justified it not as like the person who lost it might hear you but like somebody else will claim it's theirs now that's what I would be But who would be, I mean, okay, mom, I love that you're giving me the cover there, but like, are a lot of people going to look at a little kid and be like, that was my 20 and it really wasn't their 20? Like, what kind of monster would do that?

The same kind of monster who would yell at their daughter because she told the people at Target that they forgot to charge us for her little mermaid bedspread.

If I saw you with that money, I'd be like, that's mine.

all right uh i guess that should uh probably do it for today um thanks everyone again uh this is our first show back uh since the 4000th so i feel compelled uh to say thank you to everyone who came out yes everybody who listened and everybody who just like has been listening to the show and coming to events or emailing us or sending in music for your weekend or donating money or just being part of this whole dang thing for 15 years like i don't i didn't realize it was 15 years i'm terrible at math but like it wasn't until i started looking back on you know this whole thing to realize that like i i would have said i thought we've been doing this for 10 years there's an extra five years i wasn't even accounting for like it's wild you've been doing it for 11 years right is that the i think 2012 yeah whoo my goodness so thank you to everybody for um for for making this uh possible for us to do this for our job we really appreciate you uh we are going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio uh in the meantime have a great wednesday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

boy being a disc jockey is really hard way harder than i ever imagined i hope you enjoyed it and I hope you'll come back next time for my very next show. Please, I'm begging you. Power out.