Muse

Okay, let me ask you a few questions. Let's talk about restaurants. Would you be willing to wait for a really good restaurant a half hour, or would you just eat somewhere kind of crappy because you could get in right away? What do you think?

The look on people's faces when they wait in line is like, it's just, what are you going to eat or to stand quietly? Have you ever uttered the phrase, get off my lawn? No. Okay. I mean, yeah, I've said, but I didn't mean like old man,

like, get off my lawn.

I meant more like, this is my property, so get off my lawn.

I'm not going to sugarcoat this for you. You have early-onset grumpiness. What? Early-onset grumpiness, EOG. You're going to begin to enjoy fewer and fewer things in your life. You'll be saying things like, who are these people? Who are those people? That's the... I mean, it's a real question. The only reason you leave the house is to see classic old movies, and even then you'll say, it had some good parts, but all in all, it was fairly uneven. even you're very young to have eog your life is going to change forever is there anything i can do normally we try meds but you're too young for them i'm sorry i'll notify your family

don't notify my sister she didn't pick up the phone half the time she gives people a hard time hey johnny oh hi danny what's wrong with mark he's cranky today

all right let's toss the ball around are you aware that other networks refer to us as the poland of broadcasting how did these buff dudes escape my radar i thought i knew about every single buff dude look at the size of that boy's heat i'm not kidding it's like an orange on a toothpick you gotta give the boy a complex well that's a huge noggin remember boys no points for

second place well all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a thursday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live scat man's world my name is luke burbank i am your host hello coming to you from the riverhouse studios perched high above the mighty columbia River where we are experiencing a surprise visit from some local contractors. I mean people that have been working on the house for a while. It's not just random contractors wandering the neighborhood, but you may hear some sawing. You may hear some carrying of lumber. You may hear all kinds of things that tell you that my life is getting just a little bit better because we are making incremental progress towards the completion of this project oh speaking of incremental project here we are at episode 4007 in a collector series let the fun begin and on episode 4006 in a collector series that would be yesterday i was very very wrong about something and i am very embarrassed i've made a huge mistake i'd like to try to correct the record on today's program if I can. Also, the New York Times has done some really good journalism around the topic of Venmo. But also some really bad journalism around the topic of skip lagging. I'd like to point out to anybody watching

this is really bunk journalism.

So we will celebrate the highs and the lows of the old gray lady. And we will also celebrate the Blur's Days because it is a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day. And we'll talk to this guy. He's the soulful rocker from New Hampshire. Oh, my God! He unmuted! He's also the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace, their splendor, and all that intricate rigging. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Let me ask you the question that's on everybody's mind today. Are you the Maverick and I'm the Iceman?

I'm going to tell you something. Mm-hmm. Top Gun is a sort of big cultural blind spot for me. I did see it in a theater, Donald Whitehouse and I. Hell of a name, by the way, for a kid to grow up with. Donald Whitehouse and Todd Staley. Those were the two kids that were three grades older than me and were almost my undoing. They were older and more rebellious than me. But Donald Whitehouse and I did go to Oak Creek Cinema and see Top Gun. But that's where my knowledge of the film ends. That's pretty cool that you saw it in the theater, though. I did. Yes, I did. Highway to the Danger Zone. I only have it. But which one is, who's Goose and who's Matt?

Wait, wait. Did you say Goose? I said Iceman. I didn't bring Goose into it.

Iceman is Val Kilmer, right?

Yeah, Val Kilmer. And they're kind of like. And Maverick is Tom Cruise. Yeah, and they're kind of. Yeah, I guess maybe it's more of a Goose situation. Or maybe I'm Meg Ryan. That'd be cool. I think you mean Kelly McGillis. Ooh, Kelly McGillis. Wow. I had a crush on her. I'm more

More of an Anthony Edwards, a.k.a. Goose, a.k.a. Dr. Green from ER, a.k.a. a guy that was in a movie called Gotcha about someone who's an expert at paintball who then has to use his paintball skills to basically like fight bad guys.

That's like Jack Reacher, only not paintball. If you read the Jack Reacher books, I've never seen the movies, but I've read a few of the Jack Reacher books, which are just like, you know, those really quick, like kind of pulpy, like, you know, spy slash action novels that you can rip through quickly. I can't remember the author's name. I don't know if you know it. But Jack Reacher is he's a huge man, which is one. I brought this up on the show before. It doesn't make any sense for Tom Cruise to play that character because one of his overriding characteristics is huge.

He's a whole man who hulks over everybody. There's like a Netflix. Well, would you say that Tom Cruise playing him was sort of a reach? Oh, wow. Yeah, that's pretty good.

Right. You know, Tom Cruise has all his own reaching. It's just beautiful. Yeah, you're right. But then they made a Netflix, and I never saw that either. And then that guy was huge, right? I think so. They made a Netflix. I just heard it come out of my mouth. They made a Netflix.

No, but they cast somebody when they did the TV. Well, wait.

Wasn't Krasinski? I think he was a different one. He was the Hunt for an October guy, right? Krasinski. They made a Krasinski.

I think Krasinski was Jack Reacher, too.

I don't think so. Jack Ryan. He played Jack Schrute. Jack Ryan. You know who Jack Ryan is, right? You always have the joke about the old men who read Tom Clancy novels.

Is that a Tom Clancy vertical?

Jack Ryan is the guy who's like, in Hunt for Red October, he's the Baldwin character. Are you? Wait. Oh, and the get down. The Harrison Ford is Jack Ryan. Get down. You know the movie where he yells, get down. Is that when he's on an airplane, Air Force One? That's different.

That's the same person?

So on the Air Force One, he plays the president, I think, right? It's Air Force One.

When is he yelling, get down?

Clear and present danger, I want to say. Oh, sure.

How could I forget such a – what is that, the name of a public radio show? Clear and present – On point, to the point, on being – I feel like there's like – Patriot Games, too. Patriot Games.

I think that's the one where he yells, get down, in the commercial. They just play that over and over again. So wait, hold on. And then clear and present danger followed that one up. But then also, that's the same character that Baldwin, that's all Tom Clancy, and it's all Jack Ryan. Wait, he's also a Sub-Mariner? No. Well, I'm for October. I don't know if you've seen the film. Genevieve is not here today. We need Genevieve in your show.

Significantly underwater film.

Yeah, but have you seen it, though? The Jack Ryan character is- I have seen it. I saw it in the theater with my dad. Well, then you should know that- So he's a Sub-Mariner? No, I'm telling you, the whole point of Jack Ryan's character in that is that he's uncomfortable going underwater he's a he's a he's a uh he's on land he's i think he's like he's a landlubber he's a what do they say that he rides a desk that's not what they say what do they say when you're a desk jockey he's a desk jockey i believe jack ryan is but then he has to go he's a tiny guatemalan

fellow so anyway yeah so that doesn't slow the desk down much when he rides oh wow okay so i obviously i forgot that plot point so in other words he is he's a would you say he's a fish in water i i always thought okay can i just tell you what is he well he would be an animal he's a horse in water he's a goat he's a goat underwater yeah yeah so okay i i was clearly boy this is and this isn't the first time to borrow a phrase from our favorite show levitard which by the way i've reintegrated with in the last two days and um i gotta catch it's gonna be trouble for the listeners it is going to catch up that's great when they play that drop for pablo torre about when he basically like name drops oh they play that for everybody yeah look at me look at me louis i was laughing my my my butt off yesterday um my sense of the movie the hunt for an october was alec baldwin is a submarine captain and then sean connery is a bad submarine captain and then uh sean connery wants to turn his russian submarine over to good submarine captain alec baldwin that's what i thought the plot of that movie was this is where i i think i'm slightly

more right about this than you are but i this is i mean it is killing me right now that genevieve is not working from home today because this i mean this is whatever number you actually could you for doing a fair stuff can you can you call her on speakerphone right now and see if you can get her to engage on this because this is honestly what she's more likely to answer my call than well i mean i could try calling but then you let's see here you won't one of us won't be able to she'll only be able to hear one of us yeah andrew i have got have i

I got a dongle for you. I think I can run this through my little audio system.

Oh, yeah. I could call her from the TBTL voicemail line, too.

Oh, actually, you know, that'd be better. So, sorry, I don't want to weigh Leia's, but you know I've been unpacking here at this place, and there are just so many little things that you're like, where does this go, right? And one of the things that I almost tossed out yesterday is a dongle that goes from the, whatever you'd call it, the input on my iPhone, right? And it goes into being a headphone out, like it's an audio, it's like a headphone jack. And I was like, I'm going to throw this out. And I was like, you know what? I might need to play audio off my phone for Andrew someday. So I'm going to put this in my little makeshift studio, which is where I'm at right now. And I almost had a chance to use it But I do think it would actually be much better If you called Genevieve Through our approved system Of audio content

I don't know if this is going to work or not I just texted her Told her we're talking Jack Ryan versus Jack Reacher Which I mean if she can't say yes to that Then she isn't in a high level meeting Because I'm telling you It's a Ryan versus Reacher

Yeah let's see Also they couldn't find an actual Russian To play the Russian guy They had to go with

hello hey genevieve yeah hey hey did you get my text message you're on tbtl right now

um i kind of figured no i didn't see your text message oh wow thanks for picking up so you know

the tbtl voicemail line you know that that's a number you can pick up uh it says tbtl listener

line so yeah i picked it up oh good we changed the name from scam likely that was a good that

actually made sense good call andrew genevieve i don't know if that was a real laugh that you gave luke or just the kind of laugh sometimes i give to keep things moving but it gave me go down the wrong it gave me proof that you two can hear each other so i appreciate you react critically in that way so luke and i are kind of fighting a little bit it all started because we're trying to figure out if i'm goose or ice man to his maverick or possibly meg ryan but though can i

andrew i don't mean to step on you but vives can i tell you what i thought the plot of the hunt for at october was sure i was under the impression that alec baldwin was a savvy submarine captain who had to bring uh sean connery aka the least russian person we've ever seen in from the cold and uh and then andrew said no no um that's uh jack ryan and i was like how is he both a submarine captain and john krasinski and andrew was like because he's not a submarine captain and then i threatened to fight him and then he called you for verification genevieve what's the plot of

fun for red october the plot of fun for red october is that jack ryan who's a cia analyst and and uh doesn't think of himself as someone who should even be out in the field or doing you know he doesn't he's like he's like i'm a computer nerd who looks like alec baldwin would you call him a desk jockey he's yeah he thinks of himself that way um and he's like i I think he's really afraid of flying, I think. Anyway, so in Russia, Sean Connery, who's this very famous Russian military leader, kind of a legend, has command of this very important experimental or like next generation submarine that can do it could like basically be undetected in international. You know, it can travel undetected. So it's like a huge leap forward and it's a nuclear sub and a huge leap forward in military technology. um so sean connery he's trying to defect right what's that isn't sean connery trying to defect yeah so he started so he takes the sub he kills uh the only other person on the sub who could basically like like the the political officer um he he doesn't tell anybody you know on the sub any of these sub sub mariners that he that this is happening he has like a trusted cadre of senior

leader is anyone wondering where Vladimir went he tells him that there

was a he's I think he said there was an accident or something so then he so then he he basically takes the sub and because it's so undetectable just like takes it away from Russia and like goes out into the ocean so now Russia knows their sub is missing and I'm the American and Jack Ryan gets that gets a hold of some of this Intel and he because he's like a very smart guy who's like read all of uh he read his book that magnificent you magnificent bastard uh he knows that he like figures out before anybody else in the american government i see that i remember this

from the movie so he's and he's doing that thing where it's like he knows that sean connery is trying to defect but he has to like keep pushing back against everyone who thinks that sean connery is trying to hunt for red october or something and nobody knows what's up like every like americans

The Americans think, like, well, he could be rogue, or it could be some Soviet ploy. The Soviets know that he's defending.

That guy looks weirdly like James Bond.

So anyway, they drop Alec Baldwin into the ocean, and he gets into the submarine.

Do you mean literally? Do they literally drop him into the ocean? They literally drop him into the ocean.

It's not how it's supposed to go, but he gets dropped into the ocean, and they let him into the submarine, this American submarine. And then these two subs have to try—the American sub has to try to find the Red October sub. And meanwhile, another Russian sub that's being piloted by, oh gosh, it was Alexander Sarsgaard, I think.

Oh, wow.

Well, probably his dad, right?

I think that's a little young.

Yeah, maybe not. Who's the one from Good Will Hunting?

I think it's Peter Sarsgaard. No. Peter Sarsgaard.

No, I don't know.

Is that the one that was married to Maggie Gyllenhaal?

The Skarsgård Nobody survives The Skarsgård There's too many Skarsgårds And Sarsgårds Nobody survives this conversation

Oh, maybe there's Sarsgårds too

Aren't there Sarsgårds and Skarsgårds?

Probably, yeah

There's Sarsgårds and Skarsgårds Who was in Smilla's Who was in Smilla's Sense of Snow? Literally the one Who's in Good Will Hunting Who's the, like, you know Stella

Stella Sarsgård or Skarsgård?

Stella and Skarsgård

And wasn't he in Smilla's Sense of Snow? Oh, I just want to flex on that if I can.

Okay.

So he's like another Russian who's – could they not cast one actual Russian in this film is my real question.

The only Russian that I know is cast in it is a guy who is also in The Americans, and he's one of the sub-mariners on the Red October. So anyway, there are these three subs now, and they're, like, chasing each other around and doing crazy events and using techniques to, like, cause the torpedoes to miss.

Oh.

Yeah, so that's the story.

I thought you were going to say, like, trying to, like, turn their, like, thrusters off so they could, like, be running silent and deep or something. But I guess the whole point is that Red October is, like, already cloaking or whatever.

Yeah, but they all have to do these special sound things where they use the sound conduction of the water and the metal and everything in special ways. Yeah, it's a great movie.

I think the bigger question here, though, is...

Or the best Jack Ryan.

Yeah, can we get some clarification on Jack Ryan's versus Jack Reacher's in the cinematic Jack universe? They're very different. And it's also confusing because you have various famous people.

Jack Reacher would have never fit in a submarine. Right, exactly.

Unless it's the Tom Cruise version, and then he's small enough.

Then he can fit it in a submarine's pocket.

Veeves, you're going to love this episode when you listen to it.

So, Veeves, Jack Ryan is played by Harrison Ford, and that's Clear and Present Danger and Patriot Games. But it's the same character that's played by Baldwin, Alec, Baldwin, Alec, in Hunt for Red October. Are there any other Jack Ryans in the cinema? Well, there's Krasinski.

Oh, in cinema, yeah, there's Chris Pine. They did a Jack Ryan with Chris Pine, which I thought got short shrift. I liked the Chris Pine, Jack Ryan.

Then Luke was right about Krasinski, then. So Krasinski does play Jack Reacher, then, in the TV show. No, no, no, Jack Ryan.

Krasinski's in a series called Jack Ryan. Oh, okay. About Jack Ryan, yeah.

And on the subject of Chris Pine, I just want to stand up for this person. I once cried on a plane watching a Chris Pine Reese Witherspoon rom-com called like, it's not called Match Point. That's like a tennis movie, but it's something has point in it. And it was basically like two secret agents are vying for the love of Reese Witherspoon. And I felt like it was a very emotionally resonant film when I watched it on the airplane. This means war. This means war.

Like I said, Match Point. it's it's a 2012 this means war from 2012 um what's the synopsis produced by will smith and reese witherspoon whatever happened to will smith um oh and tom notable the plot concerns yeah who are best friends and discover that they are dating the same woman exactly can i do a quick

avivs i know you have real work to do but can i just may i ask that you stay on the line for this one quick sub related topic, which is that you know that the organization, the business Subway has offered free submarine sand. This is a real thing. I'm not messing with you. Free submarine sandwiches for life to anyone who legally changes their name to Subway. And they receive 9000 applications in the first two hours. And they're going to pick a person this week. They're also going to pay for the name change, the legal name change. I feel like this I heard about this on Marketplace yesterday I am so

bummed i didn't know about this because i feel like this is the deal of the century no one has to call you subway like what if my name was legally subway would it matter in your life one wit of

course not it would matter on occasionally when you have to fill out like a government form it would be a little embarrassing but i agree worth the price of admission i mean honestly luke burbank

has a lot of legal entanglements you know who doesn't subway burbank that gets you out of a

I'm trying to think, what is the food, especially like, you know, like fast food chain or whatever, that I would find it most valuable? Like Jersey Mike's, honestly, I would do before Subway. Really? I mean, first of all, it's more expensive. So that's better. And just better food. Chipotle?

And I think Jersey Mike Walsh is the better name. Actually, that's a good.

Hey, here comes Jersey Mike. Actually, shit, I'm just going to change my name to that anyway, now that I think about it. That's pretty badass. Chipotle?

Joining me now is the longest-running Cobra of the show, Arby's Walsh.

Oh, God, yeah, Big Montana. That could be my nickname.

One of the things that our former colleague, Kai Rizdahl, threw in yesterday on this topic was Subway is also up for sale as, like, a company. It's valued at $6 billion, but I was like, damn, you change your name to Subway, you get free subs for life, and then some new people buy it, and they're like, yeah, we're not doing that.

Yeah, right. Like that guy who changed his name to Bed, Bath & Beyond. Exactly.

All right. Well, Veeves, thank you for taking the time to improve our show.

All right, if you need me to tell you the plot of Crimson Tide, I can also do that one.

Wait, yes, I do. I forgot that that was also a thing.

Is that the same universe? Is that Clancy?

No, no, no. It's a different sub movie? It's just another great submarine movie from that era.

Who was in it? Real quick. I'm sorry. I know you have important things to do.

Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman are the main characters.

And basically, what's the synopsis?

It's a submarine that is helmed by Gene Hackman, and his XO is Denzel Washington. And they are out on an exercise, or they're out there. I think maybe they get the word that there's some potential, again, Russian threat. And these are nuclear submarines. and it becomes a show and then they're out in the in the water and they kind of they think they might have the order to fire a nuclear missile basically like start world war three but then they don't then there's like a break in communications and they don't know whether they should stand down or not and gene hackman kind of um more you know hawkish and he wants to just fire fire torpedoes away and denzel wants to like wait and see what's up and maybe not start world war three if they don't have to and so it becomes a showdown between you know who's in the

xo and the and the chief officer or whatever wow that's a really good premise actually i mean that sounds like some real kind of like a not psychological thriller but it seems like it's

much more in the head than you know they're both great movies eileen i i could hardly even pick a favorite they're terrific submarine movies i love submarine movies and gene hackman plays your

favorite fighting priest right in another uh maritime film that's technically not a submarine although it is a boat that goes into water yeah accidentally accidentally the uh you know that i

was on you know that i have been i've been on a nuclear submarine really i've been on a trident nuclear submarine going underwater because the xo of that submarine was a fan of the conservative talk radio show you'd be shocked to hear was a fan of the conservative talk radio show that i was the morning producer on and invited me and my dad to go on a legit ass nuclear submarine and that's the only reason i know that term xo great use of the term views um and we went out and we did like exercise i mean we didn't we just watched them do exercises in the bay and i was so bored really so bored i know because i was a young man i was a young man of 21 i didn't have like i would i would love to do that now i would be obsessed with every i took my nephews to like the world's most boring submarine in portland it's literally like gotta rename that it's chained to the dock why is this sub called scam likely it's like it's like chained to the dock it is the most lame submarine and i was obsessed when we were it's next to omsi it's like 10 bucks to get in anyway i was on a working fascinating they really are and i'm so mad at myself that when i was on an actual working nuclear trident submarine i was just kind of like well when are we coming back

above ground i want to go to taco time you were like fire the missiles and your dad's like no we

have to wait for more orders oddly my dad was the one who wanted to fire the mission yeah all right

thank you veeves okay really quickly before we let you go can we talk to the president of the university is she available no you cannot he's not available what are her thoughts on submarine movies goodbye Genevieve did Genevieve have to write a speech about the UW leaving the Pac-12

no you know there was a lot of activity around that but we had folks in from out of town so Genevieve actually was not working that day and was not able to kind of help out on that particular story but yeah it's been a huge story and I think that she's continuing to as a husky I don't know how I feel about it I feel like I shouldn't weigh in because I think that the conference stuff is very confusing

Kent State is joining the Pac-12

So you do have an end. You have an end. The Mac is dying. The Mid-Atlantic Conference? I think that one is Mid-American, isn't it? Oh, yeah, you're right. Because it's Akron and Kent or whatever. Right. No, you're right. But anyway, it's a very complicated story. But I will say this. I've been enjoying Danny O'Neill's, your old friend and colleague. Danny O'Neill, I follow his sub stack. Fellow Husky. Yeah, Husky and a reporter who covered the Huskies, both as a student journalist and a professional journalist.

And was my editor at the sports department of the UW Daily and occasionally let me write a football thing and then always told me, I've said this on the show before, he was like, we never call them the dogs because that's like a breach of journalism.

Oh, that's right. That's right. And he wrote an interesting thing because so he's somebody who's a huge UW fan and has personal connections to the story. And he wrote this thing about how kind of like bummed he is to see the the Pac-12 conference sort of implode. And he then the next day wrote this interesting thing saying, like, my feelings about this are not professional. And a long time ago, I kind of made a decision to stop covering the team I love when I had a choice to cover professional sports or the U-Dub because I like to be able to have my feelings and express my feelings about the U-Dub. And so I'm writing this stuff. But keep in mind, I'm writing this as an informed fan, not a journalist. I love that. I love that, man.

Yeah, I should check that out. We went to the national championship, not game, but the, like, you know how in college football now there's, like, the Final Four, and the UW Huskies got into the Final Four one year, and we had to play, I believe it was Alabama, and we just— Who won? God. I don't remember, actually. I think it was the— It was the hunt— It was the Crimson Tide.

Yeah, certainly. do you have the breaking news sound when you're done with this story by the way we're gonna need

that yeah no okay this is this is i'll wrap it up this is not a very interesting story but uh our friend danny o'neill was there alaska airlines chartered a flight which by the way i i thought chartering a flight was going to be a totally different thing like i thought chartered flight meant we were going to be popping cristal uh that's not how people say it i thought we're gonna be popping cristal and like being rappers it was just a regular airplane that just wasn't going to like denver you know what i mean like when i heard chartered flight i was like oh this is going to be so dope huge leather seats lie flat like let's do this it was like no it's a regular plane but we're just making it go to georgia instead of going somewhere else you thought it was gonna be like the keep their heads ring in the video exactly that's exactly what i was thinking and uh it wasn't it was just a regular airplane but um we were in the box and Danny O'Neill, noted Husky fan, was dressed head to toe in a purple, like, sweatsuit. He looked like the eighth member of Run DMC. And he was so hyped. And I don't think he would—I think it's okay for me to share this. Literally tried to crawl out of our luxury box to fight people who were talking shit to us. Yes. That's where Danny is in terms of Husky fandom is all I want to say.

Yeah, his thoughts on the Pac-12 thing are interesting if anybody is kind of following. Yeah, and I'll try to send that to you. I have the sounder ready? Oh, you have the sounder? You can play it. Of course.

Are you kidding me? I mean, it's been...

TVTL breaking news. I just got a text message from Genevieve saying, Damn, I forgot there's one other Jack Ryan, Ben Affleck, who was in The Sum of All Fears. It was super forgettable in my defense. So I just wanted to get that out there.

I mean, these are all Clancy, right? This is all Tom Clancy?

Yeah, if it's Jack Ryan, it's Tom Clancy.

okay yeah because i feel like the the plots sound very interesting the names are like honestly those names erase themselves in my brain as it's trying to take the information in like it's just so like patriot games uh the sum of all fears uh what was the other one uh clear where he yells

clear and present danger although i think i got that wrong i think he yells that in patriot games Can I tell you, can I tie this together, though, a little bit from where we very where we first began this conversation? You mentioned you saw Top Gun in the theater. I did not see Top Gun in the theater. Top Gun was a movie that we had on VHS, but we had taped it off of NBC. So it was one of those movies. How much would you pay for that tape right now?

Oh, like a lot. I would change my name to Subway. Like I would watch it over and over and over again. And I think I've still never seen the unedited version. I remember things get really steamy.

So much Bush.

Oh, God.

George H.W. Bush. He makes an appearance. Sure, yeah. I think things get pretty steamy in the version that I saw, But I think things get even steamier in the non-NBC 1986 or 1987 broadcast of it. And the reason I bring that up now is because for some reason, and I don't know why, we also had Patriot Games on tape. And I think Patriot Games was one of the first VHS tapes that I dubbed when I was in high school and I got a second VCR. You told me Andrew did the dub? Andrew did the dub. And this is honestly what led me to the career I have today is like getting a second VCR, learning how to hook those babies up, taping one tape to another and just doubling your VHS library like that. And then down the line, interrupting the audio chain and like making videos of Muppets, but making it look like they're singing Metallica songs, which is something.

How do you feel about extra long play, though?

I would utilize it at first I think as I became a little bit more mature With my AV knowledge I realized that you were degrading the quality quite a bit

I remember That was a journey for many people of our generation Andrew Which was like Oh are you kidding me This could be six hours of tape Why wouldn't I do that Why would we not You're squinting at some Massively pixelated Grayish area with points yes um okay uh because i've just decided that this is going to be a free-for-all thursday um when i started to say the last thing i said it reminded me of when john goodman is talking about you know a lot we lost a lot of good men at caisson and other things in um the big lebowski right when he's like they're spreading donnie's ashes and then it kind of goes in everyone's mouth i forgot to tell you this but when i was in la and i was up at the hollywood sign i walked up there and well i got a ride most of the way up but i walked the last little little bit and the producer jay said he stopped me and he just pointed at the ground he goes this is bill i go what he goes this is bill right before you got here two people hiked all the way up here with this person's ashes oh wow and they were like he loved Hollywood and we wanted to spread his ashes at the Hollywood sign but Andrew when I tell you it Lebowski'd all over Bill was not anywhere near the Hollywood sign Bill was on the road people were walking on Bill it was stressing me out I was like I didn't see the people that spread Bill but I was like you know what you came this far hop the fence and get down there Bill is resting forever on an interesting stretch of asphalt that the people that work on the transmitters that sit on the top of Mount Lee drive over every day.

I don't know if this is appropriate for me to share, but I heard something yesterday that I thought was very interesting. We were having dinner with some folks who live out of town, some dear old friends of Genevieve's. and over dinner, one of them mentioned that their dog died, and you could tell the dog died in January of this year, and you can tell it's still very upsetting to the whole family. They loved this dog. I did not know this dog, but I believe it when they say he was a good boy, and I could tell in the conversation we didn't dwell on it too long, but I could tell, like, it's still a very – they were kind of saying, like, you know, we've been on this long road trip, and we're going back home to an empty house, and it still feels tough. And I was like, oh, man, I can associate with that. And I was really feeling for them. And then we came home, and Genevieve mentioned that one of our friends had her dog's ashes, this family, the dog's ashes, part of them, like, as part of a tattoo, I believe, I don't know if on her arm or what, but have you heard of that, like making a tattoo of a loved one's ashes? And then and then you can kind of have literally the the what would that be, the carbon or whatever of the animal.

Wow. I know I have never heard of that before. That's really interesting. I know a lot of people will get tattoos of their pets when their pets have passed. But I didn't know you could have the pets remains or cremains as they're technically called. And that's a real thing. I didn't know you could have the cremains actually integrated into the tattoo. That's really interesting. Yeah. I'm going to do that for me when I.

It depends. Am I goose or ice man?

Hello and welcome to Top Story. I'm feeling very seen by the New York Times today, Andrew, because they had an opinion piece. I don't know if it's an opinion piece. I don't know how I'd exactly describe it. It wasn't just straight up journalism, but it was kind of. It was basically somebody saying, y'all know that your Venmo is totally apparent and visible to everyone in the world unless you make it private, which is something I have been yammering on about on this show for so long. This was a piece by Brian X. Chen, who's described as the lead consumer technology writer. So I guess we'll call this journalism. This is a reminder that you're probably oversharing on Venmo. And then Brian X. Chen goes into detail about basically the thing that I've been saying forever, which is if you don't set your Venmo to private, everyone can see everyone you're giving money to. and or you know maybe not giving but paying people back and it is an amazingly intimate look into people's lives you can tell what the financial breakdown of relationships is you can see who's still giving their ex money for this thing or the other it is to me the most one of the most telling things you can know about a person is where is their money going and it's all visible to everyone in your contact list if you have not set your Venmo to private. And then in this piece, Brian points out that Joe Biden's Venmo was public for a while. It was Hunter's?

Oh, God. That laptop. Let me tell you what. We gotta do that show. Why don't we ever

talk about that? You know, what's interesting is I do think Hunter Biden is probably shady or has been shady and i do think probably um he you know was trading off of his dad's name i'm not telling you this andrew i guess i'm just finally clearing the air on hunter biden on this program i like it's it's one of those things where it's like look if hunter biden's name was hunter trump i'd be like fuck that guy and to which i would say fuck that guy hunter biden like and i know he's had addiction problems and whatever but like it's not not a thing but it's also it's also not the thing that the New York Post is making it out to be, nor is Fox News like the obsession around Hunter Biden is is really quite wild to me. Yes, I would agree with that. There's also

and again, it's because of probably where my political loyalties lie. But also just like, you know, the Biden family has had so many tragedies as well that and again, it's because of my own bias here. But I also see that it's like, obviously, the whole Hunter situation is a is a problem it's not like you say to the problem and it's not as connected to the actual um person that we'd be electing or re-electing as it were but like because hunter biden has also lost a brother and actually uh well he shouldn't have dated that brother's widow in my opinion there's that too yes no i mean that's kind of the thing but yeah like a part of me is kind of like oh god like it's just like and i feel and this is weird but like i just feel really bad for joe biden you

know i mean well remember that voicemail message that he left for hunter that oh yeah yeah didn't they try to like weaponize that but it was like the sweetest thing in the world like oh my god it's like exactly in my opinion it's exactly what any loving parent would do for their child and yeah it was like it was supposed to be like a smoking gun that like joe biden was like knew what was up but it's like all it sounded to me was like a loving father a heartbroken father I mean, a heartbroken, loving father. And I was like, man, this is actually like, you know what? I'm going to withdraw my vote for the Green Party, and I'm going to actually vote for Biden again. Dude, are you – sorry, I'm just – again, I am –

We've got to get off the Biden thing, because I don't know that much about that, honestly. Just like I just know the broadest of strokes on that. But do you know about the no-names? Do you know about the no-names situation?

No, no. No labels, it's called? Uh-uh. Joe Lieberman's at it again, Andrew. Oh, what? Are you serious? Yeah. I'm dead serious. So there's this political party that Joe – sort of attempted political party that Joe Lieberman is part of and a bunch of other people. It's called the No Labels Party. And they're just all about getting rid of labels and trying to create solutions. But here's the thing. All of the data – so they're trying to get a presidential candidate on the ballot everywhere. and all of the data points in the direction that if they are successful it will get donald trump elected because the republicans are republicans they're not they they identify deeply as republican they're not open to other ideas they're not open to ron de sanctimonious they're not open to they're not open to i think that's what the trump impersonator on the stern show calls it No, that lives in my head. Basically, like, they're not going to pull any.

of the republicans they're gonna pull some silly democrats not unlike like ralph nader did probably in the year that you know it came down to the hanging chads right it's like turns out and i know we have some republican listeners and i love you and i see you but it turns out republicans are they're they're just really they're really about trying to get the u.s women's national soccer team canceled for being woke they're about the important issues they're not about actually listening to the idea of a kind of moderate centrist candidate you know who does listen to

that stupid democrats and that is true although in this case like and again this is the first i'm hearing of this i'm not making an argument for joe lieberman by the way quick quick question for you here what's a better show title and i think i know is it sars guards and scars guards or simply

joe lieberman is at it again andrew let's let's just see what the seo is on joe lieberman's at it again andrew let's just see what if i get a bunch of downloads from people that are just really searching in that joe lieberman vertical i also just like love i love leaving my name in

there too joe lieberman said it again andrew okay so um what i was gonna say i feel like that's

lieberman's whole lane right yeah allegedly a democrat but he's just like i'm just a straight shooter and i just tend to side with republicans most of the time even though i'm technically a

democrat and like that's my claim to fame in this particular case though it does seem like there are there are more people probably who usually vote Republican who are looking for a path that isn't to the current state of the of their political party like I know that the Democratic Party is fractured as well but it's still like mostly the mainstream Democrats that are in power whereas I feel like it is the fringe of the right that is in power or kind of carries the torch of the party literally literally in some tragic cases um and so therefore you could see the argument for well this is the party that needs something for the centrists that it would peel away more republicans or more conservatives than than liberals i i sure hope you're right

and i totally see that argument i'm just going off of like a couple articles i read where like you know whoever it is some you know 538 blog or something ran ran it and uh it looked to them like it was more likely to pull votes from from biden but i believe that by the way i mean i'm

hearing about this for the first time so i'm not saying but also but but i also agree with you that

like the weird thing about the whole sort of trump situation is that he really does not represent the majority of republicans he just represents the is it the plurality like in other words he is he is popular enough with the main voting block of republicans that is the like largest single voting block right even though that's not all republicans it might only be 20 of republicans or 30 but no one else has 30 of republicans so it ends up being you know the important number but You're right. He's not – I don't think he's – even among Republicans, at least a significant portion of them, he's not, like, popular. But would they vote for – and by the way, Lieberman's not running. He's just, like, part of this, which, again – because, I mean, he was the vice presidential candidate as a Democrat, right? Not vice – a presidential candidate, right?

Wait. Oh, I thought you said he was a vice presidential candidate.

I thought he – oh, I thought he was somebody's veep. wasn't there like a wasn't there somebody in Lieberman maybe he ended up being on the ticket

with somebody else but he also ran his okay on payment actually let me ask you a dumb question Jomentum was that a Lieberman thing or a Biden thing that was a Lieberman thing right Jomentum I think that was a Lieberman thing yeah so yeah Lieberman says he's got the Jomentum so yeah so he here it is 2004 Lieberman says he's got the Jomentum I think it's gonna keep building uh to a surprising finish he said in uh january of 2004 narrator it didn't

i was listening to a conversation about this the other day on the radio this no labels party and it was the guy who was the former governor of missouri and his last name is nixon i forget his first name and the interviewer was asking i think very good i think it was megna chakrabarty was saying like you know if this happens like if you guys actually get somebody on the ballot in all 50 states the data appears to be the case that like it would um be bad for biden and this guy was like well a lot of people can have a lot of theories but this is only that that that model only works if we don't win if the no labels candidate doesn't become president yeah i was like how reckless are you right right right right like like are you really trying to like are you trying to prove this point that hard about I mean by the way we should have I think we should have proportional you know representation I mean we should have third

parties that are viable like there's so many things that are so bad about our political system do you think that a bunch of drunks in wigs who are chain smoking maybe didn't always have the greatest ideas about government like i mean i totally think we should have more viable third parties in this country but i also don't want to roll the dice on donald trump getting re-elected

yeah this is the topic this ain't it bro i mean that's like you like i mean you can look you know

what else evidence what uh how wrong i was about the ownership of the baltimore orioles yesterday oh that's what you were loud wrong about yeah i was loud loud wrong because john tbtl employee numero uno john sklaroff i think said because i've known this name peter angelos for a long time but when i was yesterday when i was uh googling who is the owner of so if you missed yesterday's show first of all how dare you hit pause right now we'll wait go back and listen it was 90 minutes so we're going to be here for about 90 minutes waiting for you would you anything you want to talk about while we wait any other submarine let me call the president's office um yesterday we were talking about the fact that the um one of the like play-by-play announcers for the baltimore orioles was suspended for basically being accidentally part of something that read to the ownership group as insulting to the team basically was saying like hey they're playing really well this year and this is in contrast to how they weren't playing so great in previous years and I wanted to make sure I knew who the owner of the Baltimore Orioles was and so I googled that and I got because I thought oh it's a guy named Peter Angelos and then when I googled it I got a guy named John Angelos and I got very confused because I was saying that this guy John angelos who is the son of peter angelos i was saying how i started out wanting to not like him but then i found out that his dad was a bar owner and that he had like bootstrapped etc etc absolutely not absolutely no uh immediate no immediate no no the guy who is now running the essentially running the operation is yeah he is the son and he is john and he uh was born on third and thought he hit a triple like his dad was the guy whose dad was a bar owner in presumably baltimore like his dad was the son of immigrants and kind of you know worked his way up this guy john can just absolutely just take a long walk off a short pier like he's fitting now into every single angry class-based chip i have on my shoulder he's exactly who i thought he was in the words of dennis green they are who we thought they were yeah like yesterday i was on this whole thing where it's like i i didn't want to like this guy because i thought he was just one of those like kids who inherited a team from their dad but then i read his wikipedia and he wasn't and it's like no he is exactly that person i was reading his dad's wikipedia page now what

were you tipped off to this by a listener because i saw an email to this uh regard i wasn't sure if you were just doing some googling uh no i was tipped off by a listener and i want to give

credit where credit is due as soon as outlook.office.com opens hey don't that's don't tell everybody your your email address let's see here i'm scrolling i'm scrolling i'm scrolling a lot of catio content in there probably oh boy i'll tell you what andrew to to return to the dennis green comments they are who we thought they were there are some people lighting me up on email About letting bubbles out in the world There's the catio content which I'm here for And then there's It's not a lot of people but it's a few people Who are like I will literally stop listening To the show if you let that cat outside

Like yeah you know

Folks are entitled to their opinions

It's Glenn who wrote in By the way I got there first Peter Angelos age 94 does own The Orioles but his son John P. Angelos is currently the chair And managing general partner of the team In this case of father like son Peter did something similar to long time Giants announcer John Miller When Miller was announcer of the Orioles In 1996 Miller had been with the Orioles for 14 years Attaches a link here Saga that brought John Miller to the Giants booth Repeating itself

If you're mean to national treasure John Miller You've been mean to me We've played John Miller on the show Not that long ago He's the guy who does Sunday night baseball and I forget what he came up on the show and then we played a little bit of tape from him because I find him to be one of the more sort of like sonorous voices in baseball since I think Mel Allen is not here anymore.

Now I'm not picking the most sonorous because of course the first result is him calling, screaming because somebody hit a moment. Yeah, so I guess this is probably the wrong.

He used to do Sunday Night Baseball and I believe with Joe...

morgan i just loved that team johnny miller john miller and joe morgan that was a that was a beautiful time in in this country's history boog shambi now is that his name or not i actually don't mind boog shambi i don't either but he's got that i find his name very yeah i find that name to be it reminds me of booger although there was a guy named booger mcfarland who was literally driving a golf cart along the sidelines of monday night football no not a golf cart remember it was a special contraption on an arm wasn't it yes yes yes yes yes and they got rid of that as well by the way andrew there is no denying it football's back and and and andrew just like that football's back so i liked the journalism of the new york times saying that everybody should be careful about their venmo also by the way they found out on venmo something about one of claren I hope you're sitting down, Andrew, to hear that somebody working for Clarence Thomas maybe wasn't squeaky clean. Wait, what? Clarence Thomas of the $270,000 RV that he's driving around that someone gifted him. Clarence Thomas of his mother is living in the house he grew up in, which is owned by someone else who bought it from him way over market value, but his mom still lives there. That guy? Mm-hmm. Oh, and by the way, the guy who's doing all this, Harlan Crow, his dad was the guy from Trammel Crow. Do you remember Trammel Crow? No, Trammel Crow. Is that a band? It should be. Yeah, it was Chris Robinson and his brother. They did a great cover of Hard to Handle. Trammeling Crows, I believe is the band that you're thinking of. Round here! I remember being a kid. Trammel Crow was some, like, giant commercial real estate corporation. i remember being a kid and driving down going to church on lake city way not far from where eagle's mother airy now is ah yes and seeing a billboard that just said who is trammel crow and and i was very suggestible at that age and i remember thinking who is trammel crow yeah and they must have been like it to this day and i kept hearing this name harlan crow harlan crow And then, because also you'll be really shocked to hear that the same guy who's, I know I'm going all over the place today, but the same guy who is basically like funding Clarence Thomas's existence is also writing off millions of dollars a year for his multi-million dollar yacht because it's a business loss because it's supposedly charterable, although ProPublica recently found that no one has ever chartered it. so harlan crow the son of trammel crow uh has this million multi-million dollar yacht that he like writes down millions of dollars a year on uh that is because it's supposedly like uh just it's like the um whatever boat we were on like spirit of seattle or something the show on except as

anyone can tell it's literally never been chartered ever anywhere and meanwhile i'm getting audited Andrew oh by the way did I mention I'm getting are you getting audited no but I'm they probably should honestly anyway okay so they found out that one of Clarence Thomas's like interns was getting a bunch of money from somebody who basically had a case coming before the Supreme Court how'd they find out Venmo oh my god what's it like so in that case you should leave that on you should leave that on public yeah everyone on the Supreme Court should have to have their Venmo public is basically my take what were the emojis that went along with that like a little statue of lady justice and then like wings flying away it was like lady justice but then someone's holding like that green gun like they won't let you get a they won't let you have a real gun on emojis have you noticed that well i didn't know they had any guns on emojis oh is it like a space it's like a squirt gun oh yeah it's like a space laser or a squirt gun by the way i'm fine with that like i'm not i don't need to use the gun emoji that often in my normal life but i do think it's interesting that they're like we're not even gonna like we don't need this in circulation now the bad journalism from the new york times today is a piece and i'm sorry i have to call her out it's by christine chung the headline is whether you call it skip lagging or hidden city travel comma it's contentious and i was like oh this is going to be a story about you know we talked about this on the show a few weeks ago that kid that was flying from like gainesville to charlotte to new york but the ticket to new york was cheaper so he bought the ticket and was going to get off the plane in charlotte but he didn't even get on the plane in florida they they somehow sussed out that he was going to do this thing called skip lagging where he didn't go to his final destination because it can sometimes be cheaper because of pricing conventions and and supply and demand It can be cheaper to book a longer flight, but then just bail on the second leg of it once you get to the city of your destination.

I was excited because this is the New York Times. I was like, finally, I'm going to get a decent explanation. And I know we've had some people weigh in on this.

Yeah, we've gotten some really detailed responses that were too detailed to read on the air. They didn't move my needle at all. No offense. Yeah, because people were kind of writing in and saying, hey, listen, you actually do sign a contract when you do this stuff and the contract covers it. But it's like, yeah, but I'm still saying that that's a shitty contract.

Yeah, nothing addresses the core issue for me, which is I don't – it does not cost – as I can tell, it does not cost the airline more money for you to not sit on the plane for the second leg of the flight. No one has made a compelling argument to me about, like, why you have to take the rest of the flight. Other than –

They're pissed that you found a way of paying less money.

That you used, I mean, the famously, famously generous airline industry, which always does right by people, is mad that like three times a year, a couple people figure out how to get slightly less rolled over by this business.

That totally does it all on its own, too, by the way. Just a real bootstrapping industry, the airline industry. Never gets any help from us, the taxpayers.

C colon Michael Medved comments. But so I was like, all right, well, there's going to finally be an explanation for why it is bad for the airlines or at least why the airlines have some kind of a real financial argument to ban people. By the way, you know, they can also take away all your frequent flyer miles if you see if they catch you skip lagging. Well, but again, I mean, they can do that.

Well, I mean, they can because it's all their rules.

Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. They as I like to say, they have the airplanes. yeah that's the big problem we have no airplanes i know they have all of the airplanes it's very asymmetric anyway i read through this entire piece and there is absolutely nothing definitive in the piece it is the biggest like bit of sort of waffling of both side ism of like the number one thing that's pointed out in this piece the strongest argument for why the why the airlines By the way, again, no offense to Christine, who I'm sure is just an absolutely lovely person, but I also feel a little bit like she's sort of taking the airline's silence. She's taking it as a given that the airlines have a point, which I was a little frustrated by. The biggest argument seems to be that there might be a delay if the airline is looking for you when you're not taking the second leg of the flight. that's the the most compelling argument in this entire article is for the airlines is if you don't get on the plane in charlotte like that kid was planning on not doing they might page you in the airport two times before the plane takes off that's literally the only art and there's something about like uh you know if you were dumb enough to check your baggage through to the final destination it could be confusing but nobody would be dumb enough to do that yeah don't do that yeah exactly like i am yet to i'm still yet to hear a a strong argument for why the airlines should be allowed to be mad at you for not taking it'd be like if you were paying for an uber fare somewhere and you still paid the full price and you just decided to not ride in

the car and wouldn't that be lagging yeah in that case it's a little bit different because then the car could also just move on to another destination it's more like a bus situation or something where you're on with other people and the bus is going to be going where the bus goes no matter what

it's more like a submarine andrew you know it's more like i was gonna say it's more like a submarine luke it's more like a submersible andrew is it too what oh i think it was when i was doing wait wait uh in portland and somebody made a joke about that submersible and i was like we've just identified it we've just found the moment at which it was okay to joke about that thing yeah yeah

That's a really complicated topic that maybe after after our Hunter Biden conversation, it's not a time to get into it. But I mean, the Hunter for Red October.

Holy shit. It's a it's an embarrassment of riches. I think that's got to be it. I mean, it does weave together a few different elements of today's episode. And we'll never find out the SEO of Joe Lieberman is added again, Andrew. But the Hunter for.

Could it be the hunter for Red October, Colin, Joe Lieberman is at it again, Angel?

Maybe. But yeah, I mean, the class of people, the wealth class of the people who died in an inarguably tragic way. Yes. And there was a teenager on board that's very sad. I mean, it's sad for their families. Really sad. But if it was the same exact people, but they were really poor people who were doing that for a different reason, other than just kind of being rich and wanting to explore even more because they have the means to do it. It's just like.

Like, when I think about those human beings on board, I always am filled with a deep, deep sadness, although I'm not a nerd. I'm not confused by the people who also kind of are in kind of an eat the rich mentality because of where we are in our society right now.

I think there's something kind of in between, right, which is it's not like I will be I am much more sad. I mean legitimately I am much more shaken up by hearing about one person who's trying to get across the border who gets caught on those buoys in Texas like that one death to me I mean it's not my job to quantify these things and it's not my job to assign the value to anyone's life but a death on those buoys to me is a tragedy of a level that I can't even like yeah Like it's really bad And I'm also sad those people died in that submersible But one of those things makes me more sad than the other thing

Yeah, exactly, I'm with you Hey, who wants to do some Blur's days?

There's a right way to rock And a wrong way to roll You can just listen to your soul Just remember that life is number one You can be having so much fun Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing but one.

All right. I hope you're happy, Andrew. Now the construction guys saw me cry. I don't think I did that.

Were you thinking about this? I hope you're happy, Greg Abbott. Are you thinking about what happened to Goose at the end? I am. Yeah, right? Because he gets the fear, right? No, he... Does he crash the plane because he loses his mind or something? He does die, but I didn't know that. I don't remember why.

I told you, it's a big blind spot for me. I thought I remember he gets some kind of weird... He gets into his head and he can't land the plane. He can't tailhook it or whatever.

No, I think it loses his landing gear, so he draws a cartoon bubble of a landing gear. Oh, right, right, right, yeah, definitely. That's amazing stories, yes. And he lands on, I believe, a submarine. Hey, I was going to say, as far as Blur's Days are concerned, usually I go, just because it's easiest, I read them in the order with which they came into my inbox. I'm going to go out of order today and actually read the newest one first, Luke, because it's personal. This comes from... This time it's personal? This time it's personal. This comes from Hannah, a.k.a. Oh, my gosh. Hanser? Is Hanser a nickname for Hannah? Because I love that. I absolutely love that. We'll call her Hanser around the Hawk Squad. And of course, that's your sister who's saying, can you guys wish Madeline a happy 17th Blurs Day? We sure can. Happy Blurs Day, Maddie. Now, didn't you, did we talk about this on the show earlier this week, or was that off-air that you mentioned? It was off-air

that I mentioned to you, and this is, I mean, I couldn't possibly love this niece of mine more. I mean, she is just one of the smartest, most loving, most fun, interesting people I've ever met. But above all of that, she understood my joke on her birthday, and that really puts her in top-tier niece status.

Was the joke on Hawk Squad? Because your sister here says Luke, being the fabulous uncle that he is, was the first to wish her a happy birthday on Hawk Squad, but it would also mean a lot to hear it on the podcast. Thank you, Hanser. So this was a public joke, a semi-public joke on Hawk Squad to your niece.

It's nobody except Matty Gott, which is the tradition on Hawk Squad when it's somebody's birthday. And with the size of our family, it's almost always somebody's birthday. There's like two days that are not somebody's birthday in our family.

And then those days we rest.

And so the tradition is often to post a picture of the person, you know, maybe from a while ago or recently or whatever. Like we always be like, happy birthday, whoever, and we put a picture up. i found a picture of maddie that was so pixelated and then i zoomed in i cut her dad out of it and she's just barely visible as a human that's so good and i was like happy happy birthday maddie that's really but the problem was i i was proud of this joke but here's the problem andrew you know how sometimes when you're texting photos it does that thing where it's real small yeah Like, in the text chain, you know what I mean? It's not taking up, like, a significant amount of real estate.

Oh, actually, no, no, I'm sorry. I don't think that my Android does that. Sometimes it'll, like, it'll zoom in in a way that is irritating and your message doesn't get across.

For some reason on iPhones, sometimes if you're sending videos or pictures back and forth, and I don't know why this happens when it does, but sometimes the picture will be, like, teeny.

tiny like you have to put your thumb on it and like enlarge it whereas a lot of times a picture is just a regular size and you can look at it and see it this of all days for the picture to not be tiny this was the day where it decided to make the picture really small and you had to like zoom in on it to get how hilarious I was being and did

anybody else even comment on it I feel like your mom was probably disappointed she probably didn't say anything but she was probably disappointed in you for not finding a better picture do you think that's true

i mean my mom is disappointed in me for so many reasons i don't know on that day if that was the top of the list but um maddie did realize that i was trolling her slightly and she laughed at

the picture and that's why she's my favorite niece or nephew did you get the um emoji of the face that's sort of sideways but it's laughing so hard that tears are squirting out of its eyes

i'm gonna actually go back now andrew and tell you but again this is how hawk squad works i gotta I'll go way back. But let's see here. My dad's been texting pictures from the river in Leavenworth, where my parents have been time-sharing it up.

Oh, that's right. They were telling me about that. They're going to do some river floats, I believe.

My sister Sarah is in Jamaica right now, which is Jamaican me crazy with these pictures, Sarah. Let's see here. Okay. I said happy birthday to my favorite Mason County Forest Festival princess of Douglas fir, which was a thing that Maddie recently achieved. and then I put this picture of her and then she laughed at it and let's see who else

she laughed at it as an emoji I mean that was the whole thing she did the ha ha thing that's what I do I don't usually do emojis I'll be like ha ha

sorry she actually did she did more than just that I think she said epic photo of me that's great and then my dad said a very happy 17th birthday to you Maddie by the way sorry that we're not going to do any other blurs days today I know

We're super serving our P1s. I have never met Madeline in person, but of course, Maddie's been on the show before. I think this is an annoying thing for a 17-year-old to hear on the day of their birth, but how is it that I can't believe Maddie is 17? Right?

I told you that off air on her actual birthday, and you were like, what? You were genuinely shocked by that information.

Yeah, it's been a while since they were on the show.

Anyway, I need to tell you one other quick thing, and Hanser will appreciate this. I had a long conversation with my mother last night on the phone in which she said down by the seashore. She said, hey, when are you going to have your dad back down to, like, work on the house? And I was like, any time. Like, get him down here. Why is he working on the Anninsons? All they do is blast Fox News and make him hang sheetrock. It's hard on his body. And mine. And she goes, right? And she goes, yeah, because we just had a great week in Leavenworth, and I'm really ready for a break. My mom's new thing is trying to pawn my father off on me, which, by the way, I'm here for. I need help. I don't know how to do any of this stuff. But she was like, we got home, and he wanted to make a big dinner. And I was like, can't we just dig something out of the fridge? We've been in traffic. There's a lot of things that will make me mad at your dad. This was I'm just I'm just repeating what my mom said to me last night.

Yeah. Well, that sounds very personal, but I also I think relatable, I think as well. I think I said that sentence with the words in the wrong order. But yeah, that is something that I can definitely relate to tonight. Genevieve is going camping. I kind of forgot about this. She told me this several times and was even getting out some camping gear last night. But it wasn't until really this morning somehow that it really registered that like, oh, I get like full on Andy times tonight. on a Thursday night and it always astounds me how I get a little spring in my step when I think that and then here are the two things there's literally nothing I'm going to change about my behavior tonight whether Genevieve was in town or not there's like nothing that Genevieve constricts me from doing it just is a feeling of like it's my house but then also what will happen is about three hours after she's gone I will get like a sad feeling I have been feeling that

regarding Becca up here yeah you guys are yeah and and you know we're like we're gonna be hanging out multiple days this weekend and you know when we're in portland together it's not like we're hanging out seven days a week but i was just like oh man it it be lonely up yeah thank god i have you to

talk to yeah i'm facetime with you tonight absolutely call me during the mariners while you're throwing darts and i'm what time is wandering around this hovel is it a 6 40 game

oh no no no no no they have they're off oh it's thursday right right right off today wait that

That was only a two-game series against the Padres? That's weird, right? Yeah. I know they're off tonight. It was two games, though, right? So is that considered a sweep? Is that two sweeps in a row? I believe so. Also, I mean, we definitely want to take some.

We want to take some time off and try to kill the momentum.

Yeah, exactly. Oh, before the Orioles come to town tomorrow. What a weekend that's going to be. What a weekend that's going to be. Are you going to any of those games? Happy Blurs Day, Padres and Orioles and Mariners. I am not. I got invited to Saturday's game, which is also the induction for King Felix. But I cannot go because I have a friend in from out of town. It's been a very busy summer.

Is there anything wrong with me that I just couldn't possibly care less about the Mariner's Hall of Fame?

Well, you know, I generally wouldn't, but Genevieve and I happened to be there for the Itro induction, and I was choked up, Luke. Well, Itro is in the Hall of Fame of my heart. It was really amazing. I will say the Felix thing is a little bit more, I don't know, fraught? That's a strong word, I feel like. obviously one of the best mariners ever but you know it also just reminds you that the mariners squandered his talent you know it's like such a sad story and that he kind of he also squandered his talent he did that he petered out slowly and just let himself kind of like he just it didn't

seem like he was very disciplined by the end yeah he didn't pick up like a fourth pitch like easy for me to say right but i mean the really really all-time great pitchers at some point when they can't just like throw gas they then develop another pitch and that's how they extend their careers and you know a significant number of the all-time greats have done that he just wasn't really down for that which you know it's no crime i mean he threw a perfect game we turned him into the mascot from where the wild things are it was a lot of fun was had but like they are hyping this weekend on the broadcast so hard and i'm like it's not cooperston it's like he'll join such great says dan wilson okay i mean you know and i love dan wilson you know what i love about dan wilson he has great taste in restaurants i told you this like you've told me this yeah i was in this hip-ass place with my daughter some number of months ago on capitol hill like a place i don't even think i'm cool enough to go in and who's sitting there on a date with his wife just looking happy as a clam sitting at the bar is dan wilson wilson i love that he they're still going on dates I love they're going to cool places. How does his knees look?

Is he holding up okay? I always worry about catchers and their knees.

Oh, my God, dude. That guy is fit as a fiddle. Good. Like, he looks like he could play today. In fact, we might need him tomorrow.

Do you know that the last, I think the last time Felix threw out a pitch, the Mariners went 18 innings without scoring a run?

Do you know what is also, I didn't know that, but you know what's been really throwing me about the audio package around King Felix? I think he might have hit a grand slam. What? What? It's so confusing. There is tape of Dave Niehaus going,

and the first Grand Slam of the year is from Felix Hernandez.

That can't be right. Google it. Gorgle it. I'm gorgling.

I was trying to figure out what the hells they're talking about. We must have been playing a National League team, and Felix must have hit a flipping Grand Slam.

Hold on. Is this actually true? I mean, I hate to do this because everybody wants to hear this music underneath us a little bit more but happy birthday maddie happy birthday maddie indeed um and this

is your gift from us is there anything coming up down in san diego and sends a drive to deep right center field that baby is going to be fly away get out the rye bread and mustard grandma the Mariners' first Grand Slam of the year comes from Felix Hernandez. What are you watching? Oh, my.

How insane is that? What am I watching? And he doesn't even look that excited. Well, and this is the thing. They're playing the New York Mets. They should not have put it in the audio package because it's very confusing. It's great that he did that. But it's true, though, yeah. It's great and it's true, but it's to the side of the point. he is not known as the greatest grand slam hitter in mariners history he's known as maybe our greatest if not well randy johnson's probably the greatest pitcher in mariners history but he's in the top like two greatest pitchers in mariners history and somebody just got greedy they're like he also did this crazy thing once where he hit a grand slam and all day long the last two days i've been listening to mariners game i keep hearing that clip and i just keep thinking i know it's cool he did that but i don't think it's what we know felix for i disagree i first

well this was 2008 so that's like the year before i start watching the mariners and it was his only at bat of the season i mean it's it was the only i mean if you're compiling a package of the greatest hits literally i guess in figurative the the greatest hits of felix felix hernandez you're going to include i would include that as well that is i just feel like it's such a i mean it's insane

that he did that but i also just feel like it's i'm gonna think of an analogy and then you're going to give me a better analogy it's sort of like it's you know it's somebody who's really famous for one thing and then one time they did this other thing and now when they're being inducted it's like somebody's getting their star I know this isn't at the level of what Felix is doing but somebody's getting their star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame because they're a famous actor they are Chris Pine and one time Chris Pine Jack Reacher one time Jack Reacher but in real life Chris Pine ran into an apartment that was on fire on Santa Monica Boulevard, Andrew and grabbed a cat but he's also won four oscars and we're like known cat savior chris pine is getting his star on the hollywood walk of fame to me it's like cool that he did that but i don't

think it's why he's getting his star yeah that's my analogy now give me a better one but the pa well i would let's just go with that perfect analogy i don't know what you've ruined maddie's it doesn't sound like the package says you know hall of fame hitter like they're it's a i'm just

mad because it confused me for the first

eight times I heard it. That's where my animus is coming from. Oh, I didn't start. We are almost out of music on that already, by the way. We've only done Maddie's Blur's Day. I'm surprised it was actually we had that much music. This is amazing.

Should we just reboot? Should we unplug the podcast

and plug it back in and see if that fixes it? Let me hit the side of it. April in Maine says, and we're going to spend 30 minutes on this too. April in Maine says, I would love to send a Blur's Day message. April actually said I would like to send a Blur's Day message, but in my head I turned that to love. I hope that didn't make it weird. I would either like or love to send a Blur's Day message to my longest-running co-bro and co-10, James. He's the best partner, boy dad, and cat dad a person could have, and I'm so lucky that I get to do this crazy life with him. Happy birthday, Squeezy. Aww. I'd like to grow a pair sometime. Oh, nice. Just grabbing drops at random. Sure. Matt says, I'd like to give a Blur's Day shout out to Rachel in Broomfield, Colorado. We've been together for nine wonderful years. You've been my rock when I need help. If I have anxiety with social events, sky jinx, and just overall with life's daily speed bumps, happiest birthday, my love, and my best friend and my worst enemy. Do you think y'all can handle this? I added the worst enemy part. He didn't say that, Rachel. I said it. That's very sweet, though. Happy Blur's Day, Rachel. That is super sweet. I love the nicknames today Taylor and Everett says I'd like to wish my God damn partner And lover Mike A happy 38th Blurs Day Miami meat tech He makes each day More enjoyable than the last Is the best dad To our five McKenna And is even Almost a 10 himself Happy Blurs Day Big Daddy Aww

Happy Blurs Day What was that? Play it again? Uh It's too low Let me hear it These listeners, when they send us audio drops of their children, they really need to record it in higher fidelity. It's the kid who said, life's a potty, wipe your body, but they're clearly, this is like the fourth take, and they're not into it.

Yeah, the energy. Life's a potty, wipe your body. Bridget in Chicago says, can you please wish a happy 40th Thursday to my 11, Richard? Thank you for being the best baker man and dog dad around. Grumpus and I love you very much. And here's a note to us here. Luke Bridget says, Grumpus is a nickname for our dog named Almond that developed from the TBTL episode where you guys played Johnny Depp saying dropped a grumpy. Pardon the term.

I don't know who that is, and I don't care to find out.

Because you played that tape over and over, there's now a dog named Almond whose nickname is Grumpus in Chicago. I'm here for it. Happy Blurs Day, Richard. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

I thought that some human being had actually dropped a grumpy, pardon the term, onto the bed.

Teresa says, happy birthday to me. I turned 58 on August 8th. I turned 58 on 8-8. So I decided that this year I will do eight things I've never done. The first thing on my list is go on an evening boat cruise around the New York City Harbor. I'll be doing that this weekend. And I would like to wish a happy birthday to all the other Leo listeners out there. Well, happy Blur's Day, Teresa. Enjoy that. I wouldn't mind knowing.

I wanted to do Hill-Rest stuff for my friend.

Play that again.

I talked over it. No, it's.

I wanted to do Hill-Rest stuff for my friend.

Oh. By the way, I was cutting things off abruptly long before TikTok, Andrew, I want to tell you. It is true. It was sloppy then, and now it's a. Yeah. Now that's a beautiful diamond of audio because you're in charge. Should we assign Teresa the seven other things? Yes, we should. So boat ride around New York. That's a great idea, by the way. Last time I was out there, I was in Brooklyn Heights getting some dinner. And, I mean, I lived in Brooklyn for a long time. Well, I don't know, for a couple of years. But I don't think I spent a lot of time in Brooklyn Heights. And it just. It looks out on the southern tip of Manhattan, and you can also see the Statue of Liberty. It's kind of way in the distance. But the southern tip of Manhattan is an incredibly beautiful, interesting thing to look at. So I think that boat tour is going to be great. But what are the other seven things, though?

Let's see. Put baloney in your pockets? That could be one thing. She might already be doing that. I was hoping that she's not, but I don't know for sure.

Do we know, does this person live in New York? Are they visiting for the trip? That I don't know. I can give some real New York ideas.

I could look at their Venmo, try to nail down where they are, but I don't know. That would actually be helpful.

I just want you to be normal, and clearly you're not. I would say if you do live in New York, or if you're going to be in New York for a while, I can give you seven things in New York. I just put a lot of pressure on myself.

You really did. I'm out of this. I've barely been listening.

Well, one thing is, and I know you're already doing a boat thing, But if you didn't get quite enough Of boating around Take the Staten Island Ferry It's free Take it from the southern tip of Manhattan To Staten Island Walk off the ferry And there is a bar restaurant I forget the name of it That's like walking distance From the Staten Island Ferry That they make their hamburgers They put them on an English muffin

Oh, sounds good

It's so good It's the exact right I mean honestly The fact that we're not All eating our burgers on English muffins is a travesty of a mockery of a sham of two travesties of a mockery. It's the only way to have a burger. So that's thing number two. Go to Staten Island and have that burger that's on an English muffin. Thing number three in New York is, let's see here. What do they call it? Is it called the city that sometimes sleeps

or the city that never sleeps? They call it the city that goes to bed usually around 10, but 10.30 or 11 on weekends.

Go to the Second Avenue Deli, which is an amazing Jewish deli. Is that where you took me? No, no. Where were you? That was Juniors. Also go to Juniors. You know what? I'm knocking out two. Now we're down to seven, six, five. We can even break down, like eat the pickles at Juniors. Okay, that's three. Oh my God. Dude, the amount of like food that I ordered at Juniors. I had a bowl of ranch dressing. When's the last time that happened?

There is just like, there's no recreation. It was so good. There's so much stuff I love about Seattle, but there's no recreating that kind of experience here. Like, at least in L.A., you did have your Langer's, your cantors, and whatever.

You should see the diners in Longview, Washington. Amazing.

Kind of head over to Polesville. I mean, you can find yourself a quaint diner here or there, but, like, not that experience. Not, like, the too-much-tuna experience that Kroll brings us from Cantors.

I like to get the real noodle arms. Okay, so now we're down to four things to do in Denver when you're dead. Let's see here. Oh, what else? Oh, you know, go check out Prospect Park in Brooklyn. You know, Central Park gets a lot of attention, and rightfully so. It's amazing. But check out Prospect Park, also designed by the Olmstead brothers. Do you know that it turns out every park in America was designed by the Olmstead brothers?

Do you know that I grew up or I spent my high school years in a neighborhood or a— North Olmstead? North Olmstead, yep.

Is that named for those folks?

I'm guessing now, yeah, because there were so many Olmstead brothers. I mean, that's the thing, right? And then Sons and et cetera. So, like, that Olmstead name went a long way. It was spread out.

And I think that it eventually was, like, yeah, the company that would do sort of park design was Olmstead. Because I just remember, like, the ninth park, like, park one through eight that I saw in a city that was, like, designed by the Olmstead. I was like, damn, Frederick Olmstead? It was a busy boy. And then by the, like, 15th, I was like, all right, these are the Yugos of parks. They're just mass producing them.

Green Lake is an Olmstead park, I believe, here in Seattle. Right?

I've heard that. I was impressed by that Prospect Park Central Park I feel like we were you and I were somewhere recently where maybe Denver I think whatever that park was that I was kind of jogging around in

Denver for a minute that was an Olmstead Luke I've never been you want to talk about loud wrong I'm on the Wikipedia page for North Olmstead Ohio okay and originally as part of a for Lenny Samosky I will absolutely plot it was originally part of a French colony of Canada New France which was ceded in 1763 to great britain and named uh renamed province of quebec but let's skip ahead here to 1806 the vast i can't believe you were almost french i was in 1806 the vast tract of land comprising present-day north olmstead olmstead falls and olmstead township these are all things i kind of in that area was purchased for thirty thousand dollars by aaron olmstead a wealthy sea captain potentially a submarine captain i don't know if that no but it says a wealthy sea captain named aaron olmsted apparently maybe no connection i always i mean ever since i read devil in the white

City which by the way my dad is reading right now which I think is pretty cool makes me want to reread it and have a book club with him we never that's the guy who's murdering everyone at the World's Fair right there's two different plot lines that go on it's about the Olmsteads creating the World's Fair in St. Louis and the same time there's a whole lot of those weird shoots in his house is that true what are you talking about I thought that the murderer have I don't remember the murder plot as well because I found it less interesting than the architecture design part of it

that's funny because I only think of it as the the book about the guy that built the murder shoots in his house it's so funny like i

i really liked that book but i just loved the architectural design and learning about the olmsteads and then every time it would switch to a chapter about the the mass murderer or the serial killer i guess um i don't know if there's a difference uh i would always be like can we get back to the parks can we get can we get back to the whether or not they're going to build the big wheel they didn't wasn't there some thing where they didn't call it the ferris wheel they

just called the big wheel as part of the i was focused on the murders i don't remember anything about the the the world's exposition but i do know that one of the olmstead brothers did found chain link addiction addiction oh right okay god that would have been a better joke if i didn't

stumble on and also that was liquid that was right in that oh come on come on come on come on close enough all right anyway happy blurs day maddie yeah we've done i believe we've i'm just going to start this music because we've done too much damage we have to wrap this show up well i have

thoroughly chased out all of the contractors who are here so oh nice they saw you crying why is the guy crying about border buoys what is why is he this emotionally dysregulated uh all right thanks for listening everybody uh we are going to be right back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you and to in the meantime have a great thursday try to figure out some way to fill i'm talking to myself now andrew what are you the mariner shaped void in your Yeah, that's kind of a bummer. I know, right? How dare they take a day off? How dare Teoscar Hernandez take a day off after being beamed in the dome? Was he the one that got hit last night?

I think so. I just turned on the radio right after Cal hit that two-run homer.

I felt so bad. I actually felt bad for the pitcher because, luckily, it hit his batting helmet. But I texted you this. the pitcher put his own hands on his head in a way that like if you or I were capable of throwing a 98 mile an hour fastball, which we're not, and we hit someone, like the feeling of just like absolute devastation that we would feel doing that that was what the pitcher was feeling

It sounded like there was it sounded like the dugouts were almost ready to clear out. Was it Eugenio who kind of came? Who by the way is borderline

Amish at this point. I just want to point that out I love him. He's like one barn-raising away from going full Amish with that beard. I love that guy. And his hair. I do, too. But yeah, he was really mad, but I was like, the body language of the pitcher indicated to me that it was not... Now, it was after the Cal Raleigh home run, so that's fraught, right? Yeah, right. Because there was a thing in baseball, but I don't think that guy was trying to do that. You wouldn't go for the head. You just wouldn't. Yeah, so anyway, thanks for listening, folks. We'll see you tomorrow. Have a great Thursday, and please remember, I'm out too tall. And good luck to all. Happy birthday, man.

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