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all right you guys like impressions here's that guy bob from bob's burgers hi i'm bob from bob's burgers how about that show archer you watch that show archer here's that guy archer hi i'm archer from that show archer now what if those guys met hey archer it's bob hey bob it's archer thank you

T-T-T-B-T-M Hey, I want to dance with somebody It's Friday, Friday, gotta get down on Friday

I swear, every time this guy talks, all I hear is a turkey goblin If you had a favorite saying, what would it be?

Life's a party, rock your body

Bart Scampson, he is quite a scam Scampson Bart Scampson Ska, like the music, ska Ska Ska Got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, you know, Scott. What's the symbology there?

When do we get to sing, it's raining men, hallelujah, it's raining men. If you need a kiss so bad, why don't you kiss a potato like the rest of us?

Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It's nothing like when your lips contact a skinless strawberry. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Burbank, who is he? Coming to you from the Riverhouse Studios, perched high above the mighty Columbia River, where it is just about as pretty a day as...

Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful.

...as could possibly be imagined. There's only one issue out here today. Well, there's a few issues. Like, no floors, and also no walls. But there's one more pressing issue today, which is I didn't realize that they were going to show up and put this section of roof on part of the remodeling project out here. And because I don't know anything about construction, I didn't realize that roofing is a fairly sound rich experience.

Bang, bang, bang. Try and stop it. Bang, bang.

So you're going to be hearing that throughout the program. I'm just happy any day that there's progress that's being made on this project. So, just a heads up as to what the Sonic experience is going to be here on episode 4008 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. San Francisco has decided to basically let driverless cars just do their thing. Get on the magic carpet and ride. At least as it relates to, like, rideshare companies. And that is seen as a huge, huge development in the whole sort of larger question of like when we will get to more driverless cars in more places and it becoming more of a regular thing. So we will talk about that. Also, it's a Friday, so we've got some music for your weekend. It's Don Bondarly, king of the dirty songs. I will say we're not going to play any Don Bondarly, but we are going to be playing. I'm actually very excited about my song this week, even though it's from five years ago. You know me, cutting-edge music experiencer that I am. Although I will be seeing the band Explosions in the Sky tonight in Portland, which represents me being social and me reintegrating with the big city, because I've been out here in the country now for a whole week, and I feel like it's really changing me as a person. This guy remains unchanged, right? He is the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships.

Just his aura. He really carries himself in a way that he's his own man.

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I was just looking at my options for music for your weekend as well. We have options. I'll talk to you about it when we get to that part of the show. I don't want to get out over my skis.

Tell me you didn't pick any, just don't pick any 2018 Seattle-based rap that's a throwback to the 90s.

Oh, I had a Blue Scholar song dialed up. Not going to work today. Not today. Not today, Satan.

Hey, by the way, it's funny that you played that H. John Benjamin intro tape today. Yeah, which I can't remember which show that came from.

My guess is it didn't come from Archer or Bob's Burgers, although it might have come from Bob's Burgers.

I spent like 15 minutes watching H. John Benjamin make a sardine sandwich yesterday on TikTok. Really? Yeah. Yeah, there's somebody who has, I'm not familiar with this person's feed, but it's somebody who has a, I think, a TikTok page where this guy makes sandwiches. Like, I think maybe out of old recipe books or something. There's a lot of sandwich-based content on TikTok. And I, for one, absolutely salute it.

Is it too early to get a fish sandwich?

And I guess this week, this person wasn't going to be around to make their fish sandwich or their sandwich. so they were having fill-ins they were having people fill in for them like well

they're on vacation and the person which again how do i put this you know we are gonna be uh by the way if you have summer games ideas right please send them in do we still need a couple

of summer games suggestions andrew yeah i mean i'm feeling good but we could always use more we're gonna start recording some tbtl summer games next week and airing them in a few weeks

yeah so please do send those in the thing i was gonna say the thing i want to be careful about is you know one of the things i've learned from doing this job with you and and even some of the other things is that creating content is time consuming and it is a job there's this it's very easy to dismiss it this is i'm looking at three people put a new roof on the house that's real work i'm not saying what i'm doing in here is real work but you know what it's like andrew like we got this new week in review segment that we're doing this new video thing and i know it's taking up a fair amount of your kind of brain space, planning and thinking about the logistics and such. So I don't want to be dismissive about content. But if I was making a TikTok page where I would make a sandwich every week, maybe I'd just load up on a few episodes when I was going to go on vacation. Like, I'm not exactly sure of the production model there. That being said, this person knows H. John Benjamin, the voice of Bob from Bob's Burgers, the voice of Archer. Does the music always end there? Have I been talking that long?

Yeah, no, that was like the regular length. He was about to start going that, yeah, yeah, yeah, at the end. I just went into a fugue state. You don't like that, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's only like the last three seconds or so. But yeah, that was normal.

Wow, that flew by today, Andrew. Yeah, yeah. So he has H. John Benjamin, his buddy, making a sandwich, like filling in for him on this week. And he decided to make from some old cookbook or some old recipe book. The sandwich was a Maine, like from the state of Maine, Maine sardines and rare bit sandwich. And a rare bit? Rare bit, which I've only seen it written as like Welsh rare bit, like R-A-R-E and then B-I-T. And to be honest with you, it coming from me only seeing it associated with Wales and a name like rare bit. that like that made me think it had some sort of like undercooked in organ meat in it or something like you know there's that's a part of the world where i know that maybe wales isn't as famous as scotland is for it's like haggis but this is a place where if they're calling something rare bit i'm like it's probably not for me well you know what's weird is i think it's not

i'm trying to figure this out on the fly but this i i believe this is not a dish that has meat in it but i believe rarebit comes from the pronunciation of rabbit it says welsh rarebit or welsh rabbit is a dish consisting of hot cheese based sauce served over slices of toasted bread

really not for you andrew no but really for me yeah like i have been you know before i watched bob from bob's burgers or the voice of uh before i watched him um make this sandwich i would have thought no thank you rarebit but actually it's just a looks like a yummy cheesy melty thing that he put over some sardines and then he he ate it as it was described in the recipe and it was like he said it was okay but then he um uh then he peeked after his first bite after he did it by like the rules then he added some like arugula and some other stuff and then it looked a lot better the sandwich looked a little like looked a little plain when he first had it when it was Just sardines and then this kind of melty cheesy thing that he had poured over it, which is the rare bit or rabbit, I guess.

Have speaking of the tape that we heard at the beginning of today's show, have we talked on air? I know I've had this conversation with Genevieve, but have you and I talked on air about the fact that there are there are two different drops I use that are both basically the same joke. They come from two different shows, but they are both produced by Tina Fey. And I'm guessing, do you know what I'm talking about here? The potato joke?

The potato joke. So one would be from, is one presumably from 30 Rock and one from Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. Exactly. It's the Tina Fey connection.

And the one that we just heard in the intro is this. If you need a kiss so bad, why don't you kiss a potato like the rest of us? And then the other one from Kimmy Schmidt is this.

His lips are softer than the baked potato I practice on. But just like that potato, he turned out to be rotten.

Great line. And great react from Tyus in the background. What are we doing with potatoes? What about your sweet potatoes and your sour cream and your stocking then? I've totally forgotten about that part because that's been excised. That's been reset. dissected for time, that I just think about friggiator, friggiator. I forgot there was a potato reference in there. Now, can I just play, I have one more

drop here that says potato, and it looks like this is from a listener, and it looks like it's a joke. We might have to buckle up for this one. This is a full 30 seconds, but it's a listener, and I think it's a kid, so I don't think we can bail on it. The optics on that are kind of rough. So here we go.

hi looking andrew my name is julian oh it's julian hey julian from corvallis listen to your podcast and i just wanted to tell you a joke why i mean what do you call a potato that sits very still not a couch potato i always want to

say that a meditator meditator power out that i see it's meditator meditating that didn't feel like 30 seconds julian can tell a joke boy i could use some help with that on this show and i don't mean that is not like me just making a random generic self-deprecating remark about me not being entertaining plenty of plenty of those remarks will come later on in the show i mean specifically i feel like over the course of the past year or so you and i have tried telling actual jokes to each other you've pulled them off i've had some problems telling a joke is difficult and Julian just gave me a master class in it.

There are also, I feel like we're not creating new jokes fast enough that are good. Because you can't say anything anymore? Well, that's part of it. I mean, AOC and all of these woke teachers in Florida have really come for the comedian.

All the woke teachers in Florida.

Do you even understand the books that they're trying to teach our children in Florida, Andrew? Oh, my goodness. Yesterday was already way too political of the show. Don't get me started.

don't even get me started today i guess well let's see you had something because i had i had a food a sandwich related question that i could take this but you wanted do should we instead get an update on what's going on with your house because i know that you didn't talk much about that yesterday either and now we have some construction going on yeah i'm sure the listeners are just

dying for me to prattle on about this thing but uh yeah there is so one of the big things in fact the biggest thing that i had worked on here that took many architects and many many months of speculation and then weeks of actual work was one side of the house the side of the house that faces the west and looks out on the columbia river is um it used to just be like two little windows and one of them was all fogged up and so the project was to like make that space much more uh with a lot of like glass like two big sliding glass doors so that and then eventually a deck so you can kind of like enjoy that sort of factor that involved though literally taking part of the roof of the house off because the um uh the what's called the header right which is the big kind of big cross piece of timber that sort of like is holds up like you know that was holding up one side of the house essentially that needed to be raised by like eight inches to fit these sliding glass doors in and because also it was just a really weird design this house like the coolest part of it is that it has this really nice view please see my recent flexes on instagram if you'd like to get up close and personal but there was no taking advantage of that in fact when i got this place that that wall it was real malkovich vibes like it literally like the the ceiling sloped down like i'd never seen anything like like the ceiling was at let's just say i don't know eight feet or whatever standard ceiling height is and then as it got closer to the western wall of the home it started it started slanting down like intentionally like it was built this way so that you were getting like if you were my height and you were standing in the room you would have to squat down a little bit to see through the window to see out towards the the river it was the oddest design and many other people that are more i think probably more financially prudent and have less of their sort of like emotional health tied up in doing good staring they would have just been like it's a quirky house let's get a couple of new windows let's call it good i was like no let us let us almost tear the entire home down please so that i have one more inch of viewing so i don't have to crane my neck or do a weird hunch when i come into the room i'd like to be able to stare straight out those doors so uh we did that and the problem uh not the problem but the effect was that that one of the a big section of roof had to come off and now it's being re-roofed today so it is um that's happening they're putting a metal roof on there and uh and that that may create some noise but i actually think it's not first of all it's not usually as bad on the recording as it feels when you're in the place where the noise is happening that's my experience with doing the show with you and also just let's consider this kind of a theater of the mind today this is i'm bringing everybody into my world which i'll mention is um generally getting

a little better like since i last talked about this i've made i've continued to make some improvements i fully got the basement i don't want to say like it's not i mean i wouldn't want to live down there it's still a funky 1930s like root cellar basement but at least i got all of the like uh all the insulation debris and there's all this construction debris and stuff i got it all swept up and out of there so it's at least kind of like you can walk through there it doesn't feel terrible i did shop vac up a dead baby mouse which was you know a mixed feeling like it was gross but also like and then also i swept up a lot of mouse poop andrew from upstairs we worried about the

mouse getting stuck in the tube because then i just getting it out of that i should have been

i should have been yeah right i just it was instinct i was shop vacing like a maniac and then you know you just get into this mode where everything you encounter if it's not too large to go through the tube which this thing wasn't it just goes through the tube you just vacuum it right up so i almost did it before i even thought about it but and then when i was um so the the main area of the living room which is the area that has no floor currently i mean it doesn't have a real floor it has like plywood and it has no there's no ceiling it's all just like this torn open space i was getting that kind of a little bit more under control you know sweeping and mopping and things like that and i got over to this one area kind of where like bubbles's food had been because when bubbles would be out here you know i'd have a little dish of food for her and by no coincidence that was also where i found a lot of mouse droppings and i got that all cleaned up but it makes me want i mean this house is perched on a like an acre of a down sloped field you cannot tell me that that thing is not full of mice ideally it's only mice and probably rats so i'm gonna probably have to like and then this whole house has been just basically open for business for the last two years as it's been just missing various walls and doors and so i may have to do some rodent remediation at some point or at least just see the bubbles because although the i'll tell you this and i think i mentioned on the show i was in the basement a long time ago with bubbles and i watched a mouse come in under the basement door and then see me and then leave and

at no point did bubbles register that surprises me because bubbles seems so athletic you would think that that would definitely be up bubbles alley athletic but not observant which is also how i've been described so what you need is a little alarm system what if you set up those tiny little uh lasers that the mouse would have to like kind of like crawl real like tom cruise jones yeah but chances are it'll trigger an alarm and then that'll wake up bubbles and then bubbles

can go to town something like that i mean i just want to give a very quick update because lots of people have been weighing in on the situation with bubbles here like how's it all going to work people have opinions on them you might i don't know if you've uh if you've talked about cats on the show before andrew but yes the listeners do have opinions and very strongly one something that one person said and i'm sorry i don't have their name right in front of me was hey even if you're going to try to even like kind of toy with the idea of bubbles being an indoor outdoor cat one of the things that this person had been through when they had adopted a cat was the folks that they adopted the cat from said give it six months of the cat being indoors so it's very imprinted on the place as their home so if they go so if they do end up you know if you let them out or if they escape uh they know that this is where they live that might give them a better chance of getting back to this place so at a very minimum i think i'm going to take it very very slow with her you know what i mean the good thing is like in a month and a half we'll be in winter anyway and like it's going to be more a question of keeping this place watertight and closed up more so than can we open the sliding glass doors so in other words i just want to give people who are who are really concerned it's not like i'm going to get bubbles here and day one i'm going to turn her loose like she's i'm going to be i'm going to be keeping her indoors and trapping her and uh in here for a good while before i ever even broach the idea of maybe on some limited basis going outside with her so just i just want people i want to allay some people's fears

I will be honest with you. We got so many emails about cat trackers and catios and cat stuff that is not applicable to my life situation. So I did not go through all of them. I figured the ones that find you will find you and you can do with them what you will. But one that I did see, and I want to say it's strange that I can't find it right now. I want to say it's from our friend Anne in New Hampshire, says that she, and I don't know if this is the one you're referring to, Luke. but i um anyway i think it was ann who said like listen i have a cat who is mostly an indoor cat but loves going outside and is really smart and can survive and there were also some other like kind of mitigating factors about it but there was like a training regimen at the beginning where the cat wasn't allowed outside for a long time but then when it was

there were like there was a treat reward system for like coming back home in a certain time and um and and like always like somehow oh and there's a cat tracker on it as well some sort of like a tile style you know like a collar mechanism so they're able to kind of keep a track on the cat that way and it never wanders off that far because it really has established home as a home base where the treats are and where dinner is served but then the the coup de grace i would say for this was um i'm just gonna go with and somebody shot if it's not and no the cat went bought a gun at a gun shop no um the cat de gras no um again whoever this person who wrote in is probably an made and it appeared to be like sewed kind of a big puffy collar for the cat and they said that the cat is only mildly annoyed by it but it i don't know if it has any bells it looks like it doesn't have any bells it looks like it's just sort of big and fluffy and bright and so it it alerts birds that the cat is prowling around and so it's not like a bell around the neck but it's just something that doesn't let the cat be tooth stealthy yeah they sell those too oh really i

considered getting one for olive the cat that i used to live with because olive was always an indoor outdoor cat and was a real huntress and we would put bells on her and then she would just like somehow like lose them she'd get them off of her and we were trying to kind of like look out for the bird population and one of the other things that you can buy online it sounds like what what ann made is actually much kind of more designy but they're just these bibs that you put on them which is just like tying kind of tying one one leg behind their back she's like you can be outside but we're gonna make it so that you can't get your full cat on right now you can't at your full stealth and hunting and abilities and leaping and all which you know i'd support that for the bird population but also it's kind of like the cat must be you're saying that this

person said the cat actually doesn't even mind it yeah huge correction about this by the way and handwritten in on something cat related but this was not and this was our friend jamie in columbia mississippi sorry about that jamie um i decided that it was better to let him go out under supervision until we both figured things out so we started with short amounts of time then calling him with treats and also made great cat perches on the porch that he loves he stays close by comes when i call and enjoys a full life i made him this flashy collar for him to keep sneaking up on to keep him from sneaking up on birds it goes on his regular breakaway collar it delights me uh and it keeps the bird safe and he only mildly is annoyed by it and there's this beautiful cute photo of her cat looking grumpy with this collar on it's very

sweet i do think what it'll come down to initially well initially i mean she's just going to be inside i am probably going to try to get some sort of gps tracker for her so if she were heaven forbid to escape i would have a chance of finding her but also i do think the catio idea is interesting i'm i'm i'm intrigued part of the problem this is where and this is i'll just cop to being kind of a bad person and being selfish i don't really want a giant cat structure blocking the view the idea of the house is to look stare at the river uh you know i don't want the cat i don't want the cat like chicken coop like taking so i have to figure out a creative solution where there's something for bubbles where she can be outside in some contained thing but it's also not like 50 of you know what the whole project of this house has been to try to like have that enjoyable thing so i think there is a solution it also gets a little windy up here so i'm kind of thinking the catio could be also slightly a wind break like i could put it over to the side i don't know why i'm getting into these hyper specifics this is what i do all day now andrew i wander around this shell of a home and i kind of stare at things and then in my mind i like try to go temple grandin on it i try to like full-on design something in my brain the you know whether it's the kitchen or where a catio might go i'm just trying to like auto cat it in my brain or auto cat as the case maybe um but uh anyway i just all of that is to to let the listeners know who who are very worried uh for bubbles that it's not going to be you don't have to tune out from the show you don't have to worry what's not i'm not going to bring her here and then just like release her into the

wild that is not what's going to happen but we are going to talk about a lot of baseball so just

be prepared for that um hey you know what i'm call me mr high road today i'm trying to take

the high road on that one and um i uh am now ready to tell you my uh sandwich query or ask you my sandwich query if you want um i do i'm dying going back to that can you tell it too early good fish sandwich i'm in a great mood today and i'm enjoying doing the show but i do find myself in a very rare position of not having a lot to say i guess it's weird at the beginning of the show i didn't have anything to say to you and now i'm just like well want to go back to sandwich talk it's like the only thing a couple of days ago luke i did something slightly out of the ordinary for me I was really hungry for lunch and I feel like I even had a somewhat small window for lunch that I think I just ended up expanding as I expanded my belly I didn't know what I wanted I knew I did not want to take a left out of my neighborhood because it's a really hard neighborhood to take a left out of so I just took a right out of my neighborhood and I love that not wanting to try to cross and I won't say the name of the street but I know what I'm talking

about yeah because i've taken a left off of that street it's a nightmare so i love that you're what you ate was was really basically um it was sort of affected by not wanting to deal with that

left yeah which i mean i do that left turn a lot but it's this terrible unprotected left turn you have to usually wait a long time for a break in the traffic and then you have to as my dad would say boot it in the ass in order to um to protect you said that when you were jeep andrew

and we were doing the thon week i was very impressed and i also thought it was a cool

last term that was like i always say that uh this is maybe a slight exaggeration but um we'll cut that part out because don't let the truth get in the way of a good story but i i never do i feel like the only advice i when i was learning how to drive mostly it was my friends who were mostly like a year older than me who would take me around in their cars and give me a little driving lessons i i feel like my dad only took me on one driving lesson himself i could be wrong about that but That's my memory. And I remember, like, everything was, like, pretty – it was pretty locked in for me. I was, like, a little bit older. I think I was 17 by the time I cared about getting my license. I'd already taken the classes with my actual instructor. I wasn't that scared of, like, driving cars. It was, like, pretty natural to me. And the only advice I remember my dad giving me at one point was boot it in the ass as I, like, pulled out into traffic, which sounds like that's reckless. But I mean, I think the point is sometimes you have to be aggressive in order to, you know, make sure that you're not dilly dallying and getting in the way of oncoming traffic. And so that's my favorite story that the only advice my dad ever gave me about driving was to, quote, boot it in the ass. I'm sorry for the offensive language as my email. Do you know I still get emails from now I'm going now I got a million things to say. Do you know I still get emails from people that sometimes sign off their email to me? sorry about the abusive language because that was my auto response email to listeners for a long time until somebody got really confused by it so i just stopped the joke so if you were to write

even know that because i don't i don't email you at at that particular account and it's been gone

for a long time but for for a while for years if you emailed me andrew at tbtl.net i would write hey I'm sorry uh that I can't respond to every email individually um and but trust me that I said something like trust me that I have read your email and I have um you know digested it and uh and sorry for all my abusive language or maybe I accused them or maybe I said to them you don't have to use so much abusive language or something like that maybe that was the joke um and then it like freaked out some listener who was like I didn't use abusive language I don't get the joke like what and so i was just like uh it was one of those complicated polite car situations where it's easier for me just to remove the convoluted quote-unquote joke from my email response

anyway what was i saying sandwiches boot it in the ass i'm surprised that your dad used that terminology because you know you you talk about growing up in a home where there were some pretty strict rules around behavior and decorum and things that were kind of fresh sorry that's just that's your dad calling hey um let's keep it professional uh i'm surprised that seems a little that's that seems a little a little a little ribald my dad was a swearer um he wasn't

like crude but he was a bit of a swearer um but we as kids were not allowed to swear that that's where the you know you know as kids we were not allowed to say bad words like crap or fart you

know one thing by the way i wanted to just before we uh jump into our top stories if i can or the sandwich talk that everybody's waiting for oh well okay hold on hold on let's go sandwich talk and then i'll and then i'll mention the other thing that i was gonna uh talk about that's been happening

to me out here but um but please oh okay i was just gonna say uh so i took a right out of my oh yeah i took a right in the ass so i'm driving north on aurora and i'm thinking like where am i gonna go and i'm like i'm gonna stop at this place i really love this um vietnamese place called lotus pond in fact i'm really glad to plug them i guess they've only been around for about a year maybe a year and a half now and i didn't know that because i'm i've only been in this neighborhood for about a year year and a half it's one of the one of the best kind of pho and vietnamese places

um in seattle but is it that one that's on aurora it's on aurora there's a there's a bunch in a building but i think it's in a building that used to be a bar that i would go to that tiny brick building right that's like a shockingly small building for the compared to everything

else around it is relatively small yes i think and since it's only been around for a year and a half That would sort of line up, but I can't guarantee that we're talking about the same place. But there are several options, but that is definitely my favorite.

on that stretch but also it might be my favorite in the kind of greater north seattle area anyway i just this is such a dumb story i wasn't hugely in the mood for that but it was like i was in a hurry and i'm like i know i love that place let me just go i pull into their parking lot i'm about to turn off my car there's something in me that's just like i don't know if i feel like going in here right now to stall i open up my phone and the first thing i see on instagram is somebody's janky photo of a pizza that they had eaten the night before and i'm like you know what i'm going to get pizza for lunch that's a rarity for me pizza for lunch is a rarity unless it's sitting in the fridge from the night before like what am i gonna do go order a full pizza and i'm like you know what that is what i'm gonna do i'm gonna go order a full pizza and i remember that place it's that um greek pizza place called spiro's or spyros that i've mentioned a bunch of spiro's yeah yeah and they have weird billboards that say like just love spiro's without mentioning what spiro's is or showing any food on them it's a very strange marketing approach and i'm like i don't think i've ever been there before let me go and just like i'll probably be the only one in there it's like one o'clock on a tuesday i'll just order a whole pizza eat what i can eat and take the rest home and if they judge me well then god damn it they can judge me so i drive all the way up there a lot of swears today and i said boot it in the ass and so i'm heading towards the spiros and i go in there and then it is so ridiculously crowded i can't believe it it's like these big like a papa murphy's in longview i mean it's it's like like i said it's one o'clock on a tuesday it's even like peak it's past the peak lunch hour and just like these huge like banquet tables there they have rearranged they have these huge parties in there i'm like what is going on at spiro's also by the way i realize i have been in there once before like during the the pandemic i sit down they are so busy that a guy with a pretty thick accent and i can catch about one out of every five words he's saying to me he's my server but a big smiling energetic guy um and i'm just basically nodding to everything he says i realize at one point what he's trying to say is like we have all of these we have all these huge parties around you but don't worry i'm going to take care of you right away and get your order in before like you get behind these other people at least i think that's what he was saying maybe he was just saying he likes my hair um but i said okay and i nodded and he came over right away he's like so what do you want and i didn't have time to think about the pizza and what i was going to do i was overwhelmed my phone is ringing that's not you

is it no that's your dad okay yeah he's saying you've been swearing too much by the way um keep going but then i do have an update okay uh i i was thinking of a different building i was thinking of something that's now called siam bistro i almost asked i almost asked that's what used to be the bar that i would go to but now you're talking about a different uh restaurant that's not far from there but you're right are you talking about that is not siam bistro is that

like kind of a red sign and yep yeah yeah i went there the little tiny brick building that used to

be a great dive bar on aurora i was not the place you're talking about i was going to ask you if

that's the place you were talking about because i went there for lunch the other day had an amazing meal that's another great it was really good food because it's very humble looking little building in a humble part of town uh but the food was great and then i ended up talking to the owner for probably like a half hour at one point the phone rang i'm like i'll let you take that and he said no and he basically hung up on the person to continue our conversation about the neighborhood anyway um uh what was i gonna say so i order a meatball sandwich this is such a long way of telling nothing this isn't even a story um but i uh order the meatball sandwich out of sort of a panic and it comes out and yes i do eat cheese if it's melted mozzarella cheese and that's what came this was a toasted sandwich uh cut in half on a you know your classic sub sandwich but i want to make it clear it was not served open face it was you know it was manageable to be able to pick up and eat had I wanted to do it but it was really hot the cheese was all over the place I'm not somebody who likes to like make a big mess when I'm eating you and I have that in common so this is all leading to this question do you think it's weird that I ate this entire sandwich or actually

half of it with a fork and a knife I do but I also totally understand the impulse and I don't know why we're not doing that more i'm with you that um uh sorry about the noise uh that like if there's something that feels like i'm showing off or trying to be too proper if i break out a fork and knife for certain styles of cuisine but like like you being a person who does not like the experience of like sauce or food being on my face or my fingers i i should be eating more things with the fork because the enjoyment like what what are we doing when we bite into like whatever this sandwich thing you got is you all the flavors are coming together and you're you're i mean that really what you want is to get sort of the perfect bite and the chances of that happening when you cut it and you're not worried about the sauce on your face or your hands you're probably having an elevated experience a better experience and yet i would also be kind of loathe to do that because i'd feel like no this is not the kind of thing that i cut up with a fork and knife Thank you. It was, and I was thinking about it while I was doing it. I'm like, this is probably a little bit strange, but also I was thinking, like, this is perfect for me. Like, not every bite had everything, but I was able to, like, sort of, like, pace out what I was eating. Like, okay, this is, like, more cheese and bread in this one. Oh, this one has more protein in it. Also, more importantly, Luke, I am sending you an email here. Do you have access to email on that computer? I do. Or is everything still funky? Okay. So I'm sending, I've been wanting to talk to you about this for a while. It's terrible, terrible, terrible podcasting. But it's about a stretch of Aurora that I want to know what used to be here. Because I told you there's this company called Van Karma, or as I like to call it, Vank Arma, because of the way it's spelled, up north. And it's directly across the street from Lotus Pond. And when I was in Portland with you a while back, I was trying to describe this part of town, and you could not figure out what used to be there. Because it sounds like Vank Arma and Lotus Pond are both relatively new. This is just south of the Chick-fil-A, if you know that. So can you tell me what used to be the Lotus Pond and the Vanck Arma based on the photo I just sent you?

I don't know what used to be Lotus Pond. And even on Vanck Arma, Vanck Arma has always been, if I remember right, it's always been a used car lot. Oh, okay. Now they're just focusing on Vanks. Yeah, okay, gotcha. But that's always been a car lot in my growing up. That makes sense. That Chick-fil-A is new, because Chick-fil-A is not a naturally occurring Northwest situation. And then past that, on the left, if you keep going, you'll hit car toys, a better way to go. A better way to go! I've spent many, many hours, even as a kid, I would go to that car, I mean a kid, I mean like a teenager, I'd go to that car toys and just sort of covet pioneer speaker systems and stuff. When I'd scrape together a little money, I'd go up there and see if I could upgrade my system in some way. So, yeah, that thing, the Van Karma, has always been some kind of a used car lot. That makes sense. But the bar that I couldn't remember was called Heads or Tails. The Heads or Tails, and that's what has become Siam Bistro.

Which, again, I recommend, especially for takeout or something. It was high-quality food, I felt like.

yeah and i always loved that bar just because it was like in this tiny brick building that just like it had been there forever it was kind of it just was like it was a holdover from a previous era and uh i was sad to see it go away but i'm glad to hear that they're doing something good with it now and um you have access to a lot i'm actually very jealous about this you have access living close to aurora to a lot of good particularly like vietnamese and thai food and stuff like i feel like there's a lot of that out there for you yeah i would say longview washington

not as much i mean not delivering on that as much and it's kind of interesting to find what i consider to be a little uh little little jewels because it's like you know it's a little bit of a crunchy part of town not crunchy that's the wrong word but you know what i mean it's not a very well-kept part of town there's a lot of um well there's a lot of crime and poverty and all kinds of stuff along aurora it's not a pretty part of town at all it's on what we call a strode which is like you know it's like four lanes of traffic plus a turning lane no sidewalks it's just like you know it's kind of that it's kind of that um somewhat like suburban slash urban blight area but when you find a place that looks like a humble little place but then the food inside is like really good uh which is what i feel like with cyan bistro i passed it like 102 or 103 times before i finally went in and i was like oh damn this is fresh uh you could hear them banging the the walks and like i would order i'm the only one in there and then you could hear from the background the uh the the walks banging as they made my fried rice i feel like any good thai place there's

always that person cooking who has like a long spoon and that spoon is like using all it's like putting all kinds of awesome like chili and thai spices and things into the walk when i used to go to um there was a thai place in bellingham called wanita thai that i used to go to all the time Once I was sitting in there having some dinner, and listener Joe was on Jeopardy on the TV, and I was trying to tell everyone, that guy listens to my podcast. I don't really think anyone there was that impressed. They should have been, but there's always a lot of banging. I feel like the preparation of Thai food in a restaurant, because, again, you have that long spoon that you're getting. If you're the cook, you're getting spoonfuls and scoopfuls of different things that make Thai food taste so good. and you're banging it on that walk that's that's like a very comforting sound to me that means good thai food is about to happen by the way i am looking up some of the vietnamese options in the in the one of the towns near me longview washington and they do have a place called unforgettable 2 which uh according to the banner is under new management i might check out a place It's cool. I feel like...

Although I guess it should be unfugettable So maybe it's like a You think that's Sopranos reference?

Yeah wait what is it?

Unforgettable too Is it like un and then P-H-O

Gettable too? Interesting

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No, they don't Main element

In Concord, New Hampshire I was always like What does that even mean? Like Right Am I a horse? What is going on here? Am I a lion? Uh-huh So anyway, I'll see it again because I traverse Interstate 5 often now. So next time I drive past it, I'll make a note.

Always hair for you is one by the QFC I go to on Holman Road. I'm not even joking. That sounds more like a Bob's Burger joke. I'm looking because I couldn't remember it, so I just did Google Street View. Always hair for you, barbershop, next to Papa Murphy's.

Oh, man. Will you grab me a Papa Murphy's next time you're going by there? Maybe I will do that tonight. hello and welcome to top story our top story um say the city of san francisco has voted i think three to one i assume that's like their city council or something uh to uh allow basically take the restrictions off of self-driving cars there's a couple of companies one called waymo and there's another one i think maybe google related that have been um you know sort of beta testing these these self-driving cars and for a long time uh they the the self-driving cars would still have a human in them somebody who was sitting sort of in the driver's position and their job was to um jump in if the car had a problem by the way i spent a good amount of time this morning contemplating the tedium of that job like can you imagine being a safety driver in a self-driving car whereas like you might have it might be weeks between times when you had to do anything i feel like that would make by

by having it be so few and far between you're naturally going to be worse at your job you're

going to let your guard down absolutely and and not to be grim but uh one of the issues that happened with a self-driving vehicle in arizona was some a pedestrian a woman who was crossing the street with her bicycle was hit and she passed away because it was a self-driving car that was in a beta test and the human being who was monitoring it was distracted which i mean that's that's obviously a real dereliction of duty but it's also like i kind of again if i'm just sitting in this robot car that it's doing its thing i'm probably like the first hour i'm like on high alert i'm like i'm looking out the window i'm going is the wheel doing its thing i'm like probably completely freaked out and hyper vigilant and then by day three i'm probably like totally checked out, and I'm looking at my phone or something, which I'm sure was against the rules, but I can see how that would happen.

Did you say that was a recent incident, and did you say that that was, I have, I saw this headline yesterday, but I did not actually dig into it, so I'm curious, you talked about that fatality.

It was a couple of years ago, and I think it might have been, I forget the company, but they've actually stopped, it might have been Tesla, actually, and they've actually, they basically went back to the drawing board after this person died as a result of one of these self-driving cars that has not been the case nothing like that extreme has happened with waymo the one that's uh in and google the one that's in san francisco the bigger problem with those cars is just that they're very skittish like if anything happens like there were some reports in this washington post piece i was reading that like when it's foggy they'll stop because they their vision you know their their sort of radar lidar vision whatever it is they use their cameras don't work as well and luckily san francisco is a place that's rarely foggy

so i can't see that really right and and also like the streets are pretty flat i think yeah pretty straightforward no but for real so so tell me tell me the story luke so like basically like this is really gonna open the floodgates like i yeah it's so weird we've seen this coming for so long and i don't think it's until this very moment like this moment as i'm talking to you that i realize god i'd be i don't know if i'd feel good getting in the back of one of these cars

well the the argument uh for them from people who are supportive and there's definitely focus on both sides of this you know like they uh one of the problems right now is uh these cars will drive over fire hoses a lot they don't so like there's been actual incidents where firefighters were fighting a fire in san francisco and i self-driving cars driving over their hose that's feeding the water because it doesn't know what to do with that like i said there was a foggy day where a bunch of them just stopped because the fog was freaking them out um there are some other examples of of again sort of more minor inconveniences and things that are annoying like that that can happen um nothing where somebody's lost their life at least in san francisco but the the one of one did rear end a bus because it was an articulated bus and it which you know those are the kind that have that kind of accordion section in the middle yeah and the um car didn't really know what to make of it the the argument for these cars though is even with their problems that is far fewer incidents than the number of cars relative to the self-driving cars that are being piloted by humans every day in san francisco that are doing dumb shit you know which i don't want to side with like i don't know the techno futurists of the world but i do think that's a reasonable argument like okay some of these waymo cars might get freaked out by the fog but how many human drivers are endangering all of us every day it's not like we're great at this as humans and i think that's the lens because people that are against are like well they're annoying they go too slow or they you know what happens if you know if it if it the radar doesn't work or something i mean yes that would be bad and if you know you lost a loved one to a self-driving car related incident it would be obviously horrific and tragic but the chances of of something bad happening related to a car that's being piloted by a human being is still it seems way higher than the chances of one of these robot cars

hurting you yeah you almost wonder if the emotion of the driver if you have a hot head behind the wheel or or somebody driving too defensively if that could be worse than than a car that is actually you know programmed to do one thing and again like i reading this headline here and sort of scanning the article i'm like wow so if i went to san francisco right now i could be with a group of friends and they could say let's get in this driverless car and that would give me a feeling and like it's like not even a rational feeling you could crunch the numbers as it sounds like they have and and talk about like the the risk potential but like it's just a new technology that in a certain way you know we've talked about this from personal experience like driving across australia was one of the first times luke i think you had like kind of long-term exposure to a car that had like sort of a self if not self-driving self-correcting functions that you were really into we were driving just and you did all the driving just hours and hours you drove one day i drove one day yeah i didn't mean that sarcastically i mean i didn't do literally i mean i did one hour i think just to sort of see what it was like to drive that on the other side of the road but anyway um i remember you really get into this idea of like if i let go of the wheel like how far can this car drive itself before it starts yelling at me remember it would holler at you hey yes put your hands back on the wheel um so in a lot of ways they have been slowly turning the heat up on this in a way that we can get more and more comfortable with these functions but again it's nothing but i guess potentially irrationality towards a new technology that It's just the idea of me getting in the backseat of a car and there's nobody up front. I just think that my stomach would feel like weird the whole time.

I think because I've actually watched a fair number of videos when people are taking these, whether it's associated with a news story. I've never been in one myself, but I think not unlike you may be street viewing a restaurant you're going to go to for the first time. Kind of like your internal anxiety goes down because you've got eyes on it. That's kind of how I think I feel about these. I've seen a lot of footage of people riding in them. and i mean i do think it would be the very first trip i took in one it would be a little bit you know it would certainly be a new experience i might be a little nervous but i could see myself getting very used to it very quickly and really what i you know upon reading the story all i could think was god when is it just going to be like all cars are pretty much driverless because one i do think that that will be a much safer thing because what i think the the period that's going going to be uh really a bit dangerous is this kind of in between when you have a bunch of cars on the road that are driverless and a bunch of cars that still have drivers in them my guess is that not that you know computers and and apps and things always work perfectly but when we get to the system where it's all driverless my guess is that it will it will regulate itself and it will be easier to kind of like i think that system will probably work okay um and certainly i think will be safer now the other thing that uh they're writing about in this article uh by the way i'll give credit this is a post uh story from trisha uh the danny and jeremy merrill writing in the washington post one of the things too is transportation is a huge part of the american economy in terms of jobs which i kind of don't think about as a person who doesn't work in that field but whether you're talking about truck drivers people who do ride share people who deliver things like people operating vehicles to get stuff from one place to the other is a

really big part of of the economy in terms of those people having jobs and it's going to have an impact yeah when it's you know sort of widely adopted because it's it just only makes sense from a financial standpoint i i assume you mean these are going to be pretty expensive things but once once you know you've sort of scaled up it just only makes sense to have like uh you know robot semi-truck drivers and robot uh just everything like i mean human beings driving cars really kind of makes little sense now i mean we're not there yet it's still going to be a long time but it's not hard for me and i'm somebody who famously has no idea what the future looks like it's not hard for me to imagine a world in which or at least the united states in which very few cars are being vehicles are being operated by human beings also it just means a whole bunch of difference in design you don't need a windshield anymore like there's just all this stuff about cars that's built for a human being piloting it which all of a sudden doesn't apply anymore pretty soon let me ask you

this and my apologies if i've already asked you this on the show but speaking of cars and transportation and business names do you think that swerve is a good name for a driving school because there's a driving school up here called Swerve Driving School. And I think Genevieve might have been the one to point this out. I don't know if this is an original Andrew Walsh hot take, but that seems like a terrible name for me. Like, we shouldn't, it just sounds so dangerous. Like, the Brethren, there's Safety First Driving School up here. There's Seattle Defensive Driving School, which is, you know, Seattle Driving Academy, and then Swerve. No, Swerve, miss me with that.

Yeah, I'll Swerve on that name. that's a terrible because of course when you have to swerve things are not going great out there yeah that's like naming your photography studio yikes or or blurry right like like it is it is a non-ideal circumstance yeah when when you're swerving yeah um yeah i'm i'm really surprised they went with that yeah but um but yeah i i like i'm seriously i am i don't i hope that i live long enough to see the day when I don't know why I'm very into this idea of self-driving cars because I do like driving like I enjoy the experience of driving but I think I enjoy the experience of napping more you know like I love the idea I mean I love the idea of of getting in the car and I don't know maybe I wonder if I'd ever get this comfortable I probably would in a self-driving car but I like the idea of going up to like visit Addy in Seattle or whatever and we have a fun weekend and then it's sunday it's time for me to come back down here and then instead of it just being like a two and a half hour fight with myself i'm trying to keep my eyes open and i'm chomping on taco time ice and i'm singing at the top of my lungs or whatever like i love the idea of just like getting cozy on my little car bed and then just like taking a nap and then just waking up and being here like that sounds very appealing to me well not to burst your bubble but

i doubt we'll see that because i mean i'm sure the self-driving car situation would not be for long trips probably in our lifetime i would see that still being like a train or something because i mean in the same way that if you were to take a if you were to take a uber from seattle to portland right now like that would be very expensive right but i'm saying i might own a self-driving oh i see oh i mentioned super possession personality well it's so funny because i mean that's kind of where my brain goes to this stuff and again i'm not well read on it But like my guess is and from my very like, you know, kind of pro density, somewhat anti car pro public transportation perspective. So, yeah, I'm a fun guy. I would say that my concern would be like with the transition period. Because if you just picture like the city of the future that has very protected places for pedestrians and bike traffic, which is what I and public transportation, which I think is we should always emphasize. And then part of that plan, part of that city plan is also cars that none of which are driven by humans, but they're all automated in some way like and therefore on streets that are built for that. that seems like ideal. But the thing is, with these technologies, they're always coming in and trying to take over on infrastructure that was already built for something else. You know what I mean? The highway system or people driven cars, you know? And so while I can see like this utopia that integrates self-driving cars into something that is also very pedestrian friendly and all these things, my worry is just sort of that like we're retrofitting it, you know?

right and also i do think that a lot of the conversation around self-driving cars and when that's what everybody uses is that people won't even own cars maybe probably like it's like they'll just be a bunch of self-driving cars that you basically like you tell it to come get you at a certain time and then it comes and gets you and then it takes you where it's going and then it goes into service for somebody else as opposed

to you know having a car that's sitting parked in your driveway yeah for for like you know and and if you're living in an urban environment like you're in vives's car is probably parked you know 60 of the time or something like it doesn't really make sense for us to own vehicles that aren't being used a lot but you just you could have fewer vehicles that are just always that are just working all the time yeah that's your freaking communist dream future i want to have my own self-driving car that's set up just like i like it and full of posters of the swedish

bikini team and i wanted to roll coal i'm sure they can add that actually it was a very interesting it's an electric car but it's got a special coal chamber in it so you well they were like

joe manchin gets his way uh-huh uh probably will um i i think it was a 99 invisible episode that that like sort of um talked about a really interesting thing which was what is the sound what sound do we assign to an electric vehicle yeah you know because they don't need to make a sound but also there is a real actual kind of like utility to a car making a sound mostly that it's less likely to hit you or you're less likely to get hit by it if it's making noise but you can make an electric car make any kind of noise so do we make it make a vroom vroom do we like what are

we doing with this aren't we already sort of seeing that because i remember that question coming up when it was completely theoretical back when i was a talk show producer in new hampshire like 20 years ago they said you know electric cars will be on the horizon and so what sound will we make them make you know it could just be like a like a kind of an electronic chirping sound or something because we need it for pedestrian safety and just the other day just the other day that pops into my head again because I was walking somewhere and an electric car did pass me and it was making sort of a a whirring sound that I'm pretty sure was not purely needed for the function of the car i was like oh this is the sound that it sort of sounds like there it sounded like it was creating a sound specifically for safety purposes no sort of a space age can you picture

the sound i'm talking about or imagine it yeah well it's kind of like those amazon trucks make a really weird backing up noise that's not the traditional beep beep beep it's this other thing yeah and it yep exactly and of course you know it being amazon um you know there's like i'm sure that they've done a bunch of research into what is the sound that is going to cause us to have the least number of backing up collisions with people. And it's not your traditional backing up sound. It's this other kind of weird noise that I'm sure that they developed in a lab somewhere in Silicon Valley. This is, because you can use any sound you want, this is the sound I want my electric car to make.

Just louder. We need a louder.

Just driving down the road. Just think of how much fun every trip would be. You're going to the hospital to visit an ailing loved one. I was going to say you're in a funeral procession. Driving to the IRS to get audited. Let me ask you this. Boots Randolph, by the way. Yackety Sax, 1965, Boots Randolph.

Have you, are we seeing. That's my music for your weekend as well. Are we seeing, oh, I look forward to that. Are we seeing a decline in the funeral procession of cars? Yes. Because I live near a cemetery and I rarely see like, you know, I feel like growing up it was not uncommon for us to get like in the car, like in the family car, to get stuck behind like a funeral procession that would make us late for something. In the same way that you could also come across railroad tracks with a train going across it or or or here in Seattle, a bridge, a drawbridge going up on you. How come we don't see that anymore? Do people just not do it or am I just not paying attention?

As one as the official funereal correspondent for CBS Sunday Morning in that I have weirdly done multiple stories about the death industry. not that I've been seeking those stories out but I mean there's a real decline in sort of traditional funerals where there's a casket and a burial and people gather around I think it's like 60% of people now opt for cremation just because it's such I think it's so much more affordable and of course the funeral industry is not stoked about this but like that whole driving and then there's like two off-duty cops that are like directing traffic that was always part of it because they didn't want like you know the grieving family to get separated and you're like you're stuck at a light and then like uncle joe is halfway in the ground by the time you get there um yeah i think that that just happens less and less because those kinds of funerals happen less and less all right let's do a little music

for your weekend before we head into the weekend you got any big fun plans let's see well I'm

really looking forward to tonight oh you're on Andy time well Genevieve's coming home tonight but I did I did have Andy times last night oh I thought it was a full weekend trip no but it is um but tomorrow or tonight I should say Friday night is my first weekend night of not having an obligation in weeks and weeks if not months so I'm very much looking forward to just chilling here at home tomorrow um our dear friend nick is in town i haven't seen him in a year in from from texas exactly in fact we should maybe get him on the show at some point he's always great to talk to um your former radio comrade exactly yeah and of course uh um northwest nerd was his podcast uh when when he was still in town here um anyway now he's southwest nerd i guess i'll I'll pitch that to them.

Austin-based or what, Texas-based? Texas now.

Yeah, I think Houston. I wanted to give you an update on a couple of things that I'm just seeing here in my inbox before we move on to music for your weekend. We got a note here from Mark saying, I estimate the 5,000th episode of TBTL will fall around June 2nd, 2027. So start planning that now. Now I'm stressed. Just want to get that on your radar. Also, and I'm looking to see who sent this because I already deleted it during the show. But it looks like Ted wrote in to say that you were once again name checked by John Roderick on Omnibus. I thought this might have been a recall to the last time this happened, but it says in episode 560, which seems to be the newest one. So I'm guessing that that is probably a reference to you, not me, based on the note that Ted said. I don't think it was like a promo, like you've got to listen to this show, TBTL. they talk about sandwiches a lot um and the guy says he has nothing to talk about but then he stretches a story about cutting a sandwich um into a half hour boring diatribe i don't think

i think that's our show called omni huh um no uh anyway so those are some things to catch you up but we do need to i also since we're here and we're just going to have a show meeting i guess yeah i do think we should synergistically talk to those omnibus folks about doing some cross promotion it's happening informally now but let's formalize that vertical yeah didn't we do it

Didn't we formalize it one time? I believe so.

Yeah, we should reformalize it. Do you want to hear it? Sure.

John, you and I have something in common. What? You and I have something in common? Normally, we're the original odd couple. You're so messy and I'm such an uptight neatnik. This is my music for your weekend. We're going to be guest on our friend Luke Burbank's wonderful podcast, Too Beautiful to Live.

Yeah, Luke Burbank and our other Seattle friend, Andrew Walsh. He has no idea who I am, but I got a name check in there. That's good. I think we paid for that name check. All right. Let's go to music for your weekend. So to your weekend, music to your weekend. I have not been jamming out to a lot of new music lately. In fact, listening to a lot of podcasts, what have you, listening to that Omnibus promo for TVTL over and over and over again. But when I do throw in some music.

Just slowing it down when John Roderick is clearly looking on the script for your name.

and our other um friend uh andrew welsh um so anyway welsh rare bit uh i have a record called this is like an actual vinyl record that i got at a garage sale whatever years and years ago and it's been on the turntable lately and every now and then i will put it on when i'm playing darts and it is an album by the supremes are you familiar

with the supremes i am they're from the clothing brand right um i believe yes when you see that um

They make those hats that Tyler, the Creator, is always wearing. Exactly, yes.

They did music, too?

Huge Diana Ross fan, Tyler. Actually, Tyler Crater might be. Anyway, they have a record called A Bit of Liverpool that I think is funny for a couple of reasons. Well, maybe just one reason. I like it, but it's the Supremes kind of playing British Invasion hits or doing their covers of British Invasion hits. But the reason I think it's sort of funny is a lot of these songs were American or by American songwriters, then recorded and popularized by British bands like the Beatles and the Animals. And then the American band, the Supremes, then creates an album called A Bit of Liverpool and plays these essentially American songs. Anyway, I don't have a favorite off of this. I was wondering if I read to you the short track listing, which one of the songs you want to hear the Supremes do a cover of. Do you know the song the Beatles popularized called How Do You Do It? How do you do what you do to me? I wish I knew. I don't think I do.

I don't think I know how they do it when they do that to me, Andrew.

There's also A World Without Love. That's an actual Lennon McCartney song, A World Without Love. They do House of the Rising Sun.

Is that I don't care what they say? I won't live in a world without love? I think so.

I don't care what they say. I won't live in a world without love. That's Lennon-McCartney?

Well, you know what? Do you just want to choose that one? Let's just choose that one, and here it is. Absolutely.

I also hate that House of the Rising Sun song, by the way. Oh, really? I really like the Animals version. I learned how to play it on guitar. It's very easy chords. Oh, that's that tone that you hate. Yeah, it's got that same... And by the way, I love other music by the Zombies, but I don't like the whatever that song's called, time season of love or something yeah um because of that same vibe and i feel like house of the rising sun has the same energy for me but but that's let's not focus on the negative yeah let's

listen to that uh world without okay here it is the supreme's doing a world without love why is the mix so weird on that it doesn't sound like how far they are in the background yeah is that something with my here i'm gonna go to another one here because that sound that's um phil specter could have just been on something yeah it could be here i'm gonna do another one that is popularized by the beatles i don't know if they wrote this one you've really got a hold on me. Let's hear what this sounds like. I think something is strange about this Spotify mix of this, because this does not sound like it on the record. It's all like their vocals are absolutely buried.

That is interesting. By the way, putting that aside, I was loving both of those takes. Yeah, no, me too.

I just wish it was a better mix. I don't know what's going on with it.

Maybe you can punch in. Maybe you can solve the mystery and punch it in later or something.

Well, I'll probably let it go. that sounds like a lot of work but what i could do is that's the kind of thing you might do tonight

after darts yeah after and not even release it to the listeners just send it to me just so i can feel better about it send it to me at about 11 30 tonight hey i just went ahead and cleaned this up this is just for you and me what if i punch in my own vocals that would be amazing by the way the a world without love what an interesting story it was released by some singers named peter and gordon um but you're right it was written by john uh by paul mccartney and attributed to lennon

mccartney oh that's why i was having trouble placing it because i when you sang it i'm like yeah i do know that song but i don't think of it as a beatles song so that did it ever appear do

we know on a beatles record i i haven't gotten that far into the but it's it was definitely written by paul mccartney and when once i knew that then it totally sounds like a paul mccartney song to me in its own way yeah yeah but i didn't associate it with him before but when he was 16

years old mccartney wrote that i'm looking here no way yes are you kidding me mccartney wrote when he was 16 he did not think the song was good enough for the beatles as such the song was never

released by the beatles oh my god what i mean demo say what you want about paul mccartney he's a little cheesy and and whatever but like holy smokes 16 did you write that song and you're like yeah i don't want to use it in my band but um here this will be you know in the probably top 100 songs of the last 40 years i mean i don't know where it charted but it's like everybody knows that song that's so funny that's incredible that's a throwaway i had a um inch i wouldn't let's not let's let's not get crazy i had an experience i don't know if it was interesting or not but um I was poking around TikTok, as I am wont to do, and I saw, it was one of those duets where it's like somebody on one side of the thing is like listening to music, and then on the other side is the video of the person who's making the music. And the person who was listening to the music was just like vibing, vibing very hard with this hip-hop song that was happening. And I noticed that the two people who were doing the hip-hopping, it was a couple of women, and I was like, first of all, this song really slaps, but I was also like, are they in front of a Red Apple, which is a very Seattle grocery store? I think there's a Red Apple in West Seattle or something. I was like, how is it, I don't know about this song, and how is it that these two people are sitting on a parked car in front of a Red Apple? There's got to be some Seattle business going on. Oh, cool. Sure enough, it was. From Gifted Gab Who's a Seattle rapper MC and then somebody named Blimes Brixton who I think she might be out of LA or something It's such a British sounding name Yeah I think that's an intentional Probably Actually you know to be honest with you I don't know if I've heard this person Blimes Brixton speak outside of this song I was reading some interview And I think they were in LA but I don't actually know What they're like if they grew up in England or not But um so they the gifted gab who's a who i think our friend rodent might know actually i think gifted gab might have been in something that he emceed or whatever um but anyway blimes and gifted gab have this collaboration and this song that i'd like to play is called come correct and it's i was reading an interview with them that they were or no way was somebody was commenting like loving this 90s vibe and and somebody on there one of the two of them said that's exactly we were going for we kind of wanted to echo this like the vibe that we grew up with uh you know um in this song so it takes a little bit to get going so you might even want to start it andrew and because i think i feel like it's probably like maybe 30 seconds in they actually start

rapping it's not a very long song no it's not i'm looking here yeah it's only it's a it's very tight two under two and a half minutes long this yeah your setup for this has me very excited to hear

it i'll be honest with you take a listen this is blinds and gifted cat

Look, I need a strong cup of coffee cause I haven't slept If you're squeezing in the sketchy, it's tighter than virgins having sex Rest is for the achieved, yeah, or when I'm mad depressed I'm not sad today and there's a few things I ain't mastered yet They taking staggered steps, I got castles to protect, huh Why you think I got this dragon's breath? Some might call me hazardous, not too many that can handle this I'm a hip-hop analyst, let me channel my inner animal I'm a cannibal like Hannibal When I spit it, baby, it's flammable Look, I'm going for your clavicle I bought my cap, I know it's murder tactical The actual, the factual Gabbit and pass it left Call that a lateral, quadrilateral Parable, parallel, galactical Your style is impractical, we laugh at you Ha ha, blimey brought the squishes So you know I got the la la And ta da, we be the mama and the papa So every time you bullshit us All we hear is blah blah Nah nah, we don't speak blah blah

Anyway, that's great, that's wonderful That's good, right? Yeah, that's really good. I love the lyrics, too. Very clever.

Yeah, totally. And then I've listened to, actually, this larger album, which I think is called Blimes and Gifted Gab.

Yeah.

And it's really good. I mean, that's probably my favorite track off of it, but it's good. And again, I consider it to sort of be Seattle music, even if Blimes is maybe based. San Francisco, it looks like. I think Blimes is from the Bay Area. Yeah, San Francisco. I think I was saying L.A. earlier, and that was incorrect. So that's what I would like folks to experience this week. And it just happened. They did experience Come Correct by Blinds and Gifted Gap. Now, our listener suggestion comes from Christine, who says, Hi, Luke and Andrew. It's listener Christine. You're London-based, Scottish 10. Oh, yeah. With a suggestion. I bet you Christine's had some Welsh rare bit in her life. With a suggestion for some music for your weekend, well into the 1970s, UK radio stations continued to play a lot of 1960s music. And as a kid with a transistor radio glued to my ear during the summer holidays, I love this picture of Christine in the 70s, presumably in Scotland or somewhere in the UK, listening to 60s music on her transistor radio. I love that image. Yeah, that's awesome. That's so great. Let's see. I heard a lot of this stuff, and a firm favorite was Sorry, Suzanne by The Hollies. This was released in 1969. I feel like you and I have been, wait, The Hollies is not Buddy Holly, though, right?

No, The Hollies do. Unrelated. I mean, I've always wanted to listen to more of The Hollies because I think I would love them. But the most famous song they do is the Umbrella song or the Bus Stop song, which was one of my favorite songs growing up. Bus comes, she stays, love grows under my umbrella. I really messed that up. You know that song.

I messed it up pretty badly. Well, we're going to hear some Hollies. This is what Christine says. Apart from being a great song that I'm compelled to sing along with at the top of my lungs whenever I hear it, this is notable as the first single the group released with their replacement for Graham Nash. Yes, that one. Yeah, right? They had split with him over creative differences. He had offered the group a little song called Marrakesh Express, and they had turned him down. So off to the USA he went. The rest, as they say, is history. Hope you enjoy this 60s twangin' guitars. Power out Christine.

Yeah, this is right up my alley.

So I'm guessing that Marrakesh Express must have been a big song that Graham Nash did with Crosby Stills and Nash or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I wonder if I know that song, but not by that.

I don't know the name of it.

They say Marrakesh Express.

marrakech express a lot in it i assume that's a weed reference or a heroin reference or something oh uh i just i don't know i just i'm an innocent i just pictured it being a train it probably is i don't know why i had to well let's see marrakech express meaning uh yeah you're right marrakech is the city in moroc i don't know why i had to why did i had to assume that graham nash was being bad marrakech is a city in morocco famous for leather goods the marrakech express is the train graham nash took on a trip there from casablanca in 1966 66 the lyrics are filled with the sights sounds and vibes that he encountered there you go why'd I have to make it negative but then it says while he was blasted exactly Mr. Brownstone

that one is about heroin though right yeah yeah I'm pretty sure although when I was a little although when I was a little kid sing that was my favorite um Guns N' Roses song when I was a kid and it's so funny to picture like I think that album came out when I was in sixth grade and it's kind of funny and kind of tragic to picture me as a little sixth grader going around singing he's the one you call dr brown uh wait dr brownstone yeah not to be confused with dr feel good i know i yeah did i how did i my brain just got twisted there it's mr brownstone right

yeah yeah yeah did i say dr brownstone no but you started to say he's the one they call and i oh yeah

no no no you're right he's the one they call dr feel good no you're right i was singing i was singing the totally wrong i was totally singing the motley cruz song dr feel good that's why my My brain just broke there, yeah.

How about, he's the one they call Dr. Brownstone for the show title. I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Used to get up on time, but that old man, he's real, come on down the line there. I got it. I got it back, baby. Yes.

We're ending strong. We're ending the week strong. We're going to hear a little Sorry, Suzanne by the Hollies, courtesy of listener Christine in London by way of Scotland. Very exciting. And that's going to do it for this broadcast week. Thank you so much for spending the time with us. We'll be back around Monday with more Imaginary Radio for you. In the meantime, have a great weekend. Go Mariners. And please remember, by the way, thinking about everybody over there in Lahaina and the affected spots in Hawaii and Maui. So I'm just, our hearts are really broken for all of you. So hope that you're making it through okay as well as you can. Anyway, we'll see you on Monday. Until then, please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Something is weird with my board. There's no way that all of these have bad mixes, all of these 60s songs.

Something like this was happening to me a while. You might have a bad cable, Andrew. A bad cable on my watch? Could a bad cable put the vocals in the background? Could that even be a thing?

This is driving me bananas. Anyway, sorry, everybody. All right, just go listen to it on Spotify.

This will keep us out of trouble. wherever you get your Holly's music

nobody will recognize it good luck to you all etc

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