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#4018 Impractical Philosophers
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#4018 Impractical Philosophers

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

August 25, 2023 | 01:07:03 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke and Andrew both had pleasant but unexpected transportation-related adventures yesterday. They also discuss the best and worst Subway restaurants in their neighborhoods. And it turns out Netflix DVD subscribers can keep the discs after all? It's all so confusing, Ron.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:04 | Speaker 2:

Your son has clearly been brainwashed by the evil and charismatic Mr. Burns.

00:00:04 - 00:00:06 | Speaker 5:

Are you sure you can get him back for us?

00:00:07 - 00:00:11 | Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I'm the one who successfully deprogrammed Jane Fonda, you know.

00:00:11 - 00:00:12 | Speaker 5:

What about Peter Fonda?

00:00:13 - 00:00:17 | Speaker 2:

Oh, that was a heartbreaker. But I did get Paul McCartney out of wings.

00:00:18 - 00:00:31 | Speaker 3:

You idiot! He was the most talented one! T-B-T-L Guess what day it is! Guess what day it is?

00:00:31 - 00:00:47 | Speaker 1:

It's Friday, Friday. Gonna get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. It's people who identify as nerdy rapping about the things they love. Video games, science fiction, having a hard time meeting romantic partners.

00:00:48 - 00:00:49 | Speaker 2:

Losers, in other words.

00:00:49 - 00:01:03 | Speaker 5:

Well, who keeps putting Twizzlers in the fridge? I told, is it Sarah? Crystal. Crystal does it? She likes some food. Okay, well, Crystal, you and I are gonna have another Twizzler talk. Why don't we go get a beer? I'll give you some advice, and we can have what the kids are calling a sausage mess.

00:01:05 - 00:01:20 | Speaker 4:

Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Sooner or later, gentlemen, you will eat your word. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

00:01:20 - 00:01:21 | Speaker 5:

Life's a potty, wipe your body.

00:01:21 - 00:02:49 | Speaker 4:

Coming to you from the Riverhouse studio perched high above the mighty Columbia. Bring it back home, baby. Bring it back home. It's weird when you go on a trip almost across the country for like one day, and then you fly back home early in the morning. Kind of feels like I was never not sitting in this funky little room. Funky little room. And talking to you all on this microphone. And yet, since the last recording, the last time I recorded here, I've had all kinds of adventures, which I'm excited to tell you and Andrew about here on episode 4018 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. If you're a DVD enthusiast, if you're one of those futurist types that loves DVDs. Beepers, and Zenith televisions, and Walkmans, and Discmans, and Flappy Discs, and Nintendo Power Glove. I've got great news. If you're also a Netflix subscriber, they have done an About Face recently on the show, maybe even this week. Like I said, it's all blurring together. we talked about how Netflix was saying you cannot, if you're one of the last people still subscribing to their DVD mailing service, you're not allowed to keep the DVDs now they're saying you can keep the DVDs and in fact if you would like extra DVDs we will send those to you as well so we'll try to figure out what's going on with that also, Jimmy's, John and Subway are becoming what, like step siblings?

00:02:49 - 00:02:51 | Speaker 5:

Is it too early to get a fish sandwich?

00:02:51 - 00:03:07 | Speaker 4:

We'll explain what's going on in the sandwich industry And we'll do some music for your weekend on this Friday. Plus, we'll talk to this guy, the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. They just want you to be normal, and clearly you're not. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

00:03:07 - 00:03:12 | Speaker 3:

Good morning, Luke. I'd like to apologize for the beginning of yesterday's show.

00:03:12 - 00:03:14 | Speaker 4:

Feels like a lifetime ago.

00:03:14 - 00:03:27 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's true. You've traveled. What is the expression? Is it from Star Wars or the Bible that you always say, you've traveled many moons? No. What? No, well, I often say... Now I've got to apologize for the opening of today's show as well as yesterday's show. Great.

00:03:27 - 00:03:46 | Speaker 4:

It'll give us something to talk about on Monday. Yeah. I will sometimes say I've crossed oceans of time. That's what I was thinking of. That's, I believe, straight out of the Bram Stoker Dracula movie. Ah, that one. I think Gary Oldman says, I've crossed oceans of time to be with you. Well, that's what I said, Luke.

00:03:46 - 00:04:49 | Speaker 3:

The Bible or Star Wars or Bram Stoker Dracula. Read the Bible if Gary Oldman wrote it. So yesterday, if you'll recall, and it sounds like you don't, which is good, but I just was, I don't know why I was so out of it yesterday, but I believe I began the show by saying, oh, I don't know, what was I going to tell you? I think that's literally what I said when you introduced it. Something I said, I got nothing to say. So today, in preparation for that, and as a tie-in to a segment that will be coming up later today regarding Subway, I thought we'd start with a joke today, and it's related to Subway in this way. I went to a Subway sandwich concern a couple of weeks ago. One that I don't know that I've been to before, Luke. This is, let me see if I can describe where this is and see if you can guess. It's north of where I live. I believe technically shoreline by, but like south shoreline by a brown bear car wash, a goodwill, and a safe way. There's a big intersection with all those things right in the same area. Do you know it? That's not the joke, by the way. That's not the riddle.

00:04:49 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 4:

Well, that's just me asking you if you know where I saw this joke. I was wondering, because otherwise I was going to say it's not great. No, not. Let's see. Yes, I do. But it's on Aurora, right? No. It's...

00:05:00 - 00:05:15 | Speaker 1:

It's east of Aurora. Because there's a brown bear car wash on Aurora. Okay, east of Aurora. So like Lake City Way there. You would take Aurora up to like 100, and I want to say 35th, 45th maybe. Hang a right. Hang a Riz. Hang a Riz. Get that Riz going.

00:05:15 - 00:05:41 | Speaker 2:

Do you have that Riz, Andrew? Do you feel like you're somebody that has Riz? Do you know about Riz? No. We're not talking about Rick Riz, the Mariners broadcaster? No, you're definitely a person who has Riz. I definitely have that kind of Riz. No, Riz is the new cool way to describe somebody that has a sort of certain elan about them, a certain charisma. A je ne sais quoi? They got that Riz, Andrew. I'm doing everything in my power at age 47 to still, or maybe for the first time, get some of that Riz.

00:05:42 - 00:05:46 | Speaker 1:

Is it R-I-Z-Z-S like Rick Riz? Is that where it originated because he has so much Riz?

00:05:46 - 00:05:49 | Speaker 2:

It's charisma, Riz-ma, Riz.

00:05:49 - 00:05:54 | Speaker 1:

Oh. I've been calling it car, but I pronounce the H.

00:05:54 - 00:06:01 | Speaker 2:

And that is the opposite of Riz. opposite of Riz. Okay, so we've answered the question. Okay. Okay, you're at this subway. You're probably on Lake City Way.

00:06:01 - 00:06:38 | Speaker 1:

No, I don't think so, but that's okay. But maybe, maybe. Lake City Way is a weird road. It twists. It is. It turns. Maybe I was on that. I didn't think I was, but either way, I had to drop something off at Goodwill. I had to pick something up at the grocery store, and I was hungry for a little sandwich. So what's across the street but a subway. It was all really perfect. It was like the perfect day for that app that Genevieve and I tried to invent in 2001 called Smack Dab. When you have a couple of errands to run, but you want to do them all kind of in the same area. It's like just a mapping function where you can say Smack Dab. Anyway, I go into...

00:06:38 - 00:07:10 | Speaker 2:

That's a great idea for an app. I know. Well, it's also a great idea for an app, but a great idea for a thing because I find myself, particularly if I'm in a town that I'm not familiar with, I find myself doing that all the time thinking okay these four things need to happen but I would like so it's not just a question of like how do I get from point A to point B it's like what point is equidistant from these other things so that I'll be in the area I need to be in where I'm getting all the stuff done but also you know doing the thing that I want to do like making it a very efficient trip is what I'm getting from this idea

00:07:10 - 00:07:31 | Speaker 1:

I think I've said this on the show before I mean I have very few thoughts I haven't shared on the show before and I think some people have said Like, well, you can do that with Google Maps or sort of a way to do that. But whatever it is, it's not super easy. Like, I know that I can, like, I'll be driving in the car. And then if I want to add a stop, I'll say, hey, you know, is there a Burger King? What do you call it? Burray?

00:07:32 - 00:07:35 | Speaker 2:

Burray? Burray. Only when I'm showing off my ability to roll my R's.

00:07:36 - 00:08:01 | Speaker 1:

Yes. Is there a Burger King around here? And I'll say, yeah, there's one. Do you want me to add it to your stops? But it's not quite that functionality of saying, hey, listen, I got five things to do. dry cleaning drop off something at a goodwill type of place grocery shopping whatever smack dab it for me you can even look at me i'm turning into a verb immediately smack dabbing uh it's not even an app yet uh but anyway so i'm over there i'm smack dabbing in the area not to be confused with

00:08:01 - 00:08:12 | Speaker 2:

slab or slab jacking now it's a little bit different slab jacking not to be confused with my uh apple uh audio product not playing when i wanted it to that really ruined the joke slab

00:08:12 - 00:08:35 | Speaker 1:

jacking playing that audio so i'm gonna send you this photo after i tell you the joke that is in the photo but i go into this this subway and it's a fine subway like it's not necessarily like grotty or anything but uh it's also a subway you know in shoreline it's not like it's not a fine dining experience it's not canless um but i order my um sub or whatever an amazing pop-up i mean honestly

00:08:35 - 00:08:45 | Speaker 2:

if the people that are buying subway if they were smart they're like do a subway pop-up in the midst of canless would canless go for it i don't know what if they had a subway where everything was

00:08:45 - 00:09:03 | Speaker 1:

exactly like subway except when you were done eating at the table somebody came over with one of those little brushes and brushed the crumbs off the table everything else if you get that bread toasted you know there's going to be crumbs and also if you're getting those sun chips are you kidding me it's like the world's number one purveyor of sun chips literally no one on planet

00:09:03 - 00:09:08 | Speaker 2:

earth anywhere is eating sun chips other than getting them from subway that's such a weird

00:09:08 - 00:10:24 | Speaker 1:

yeah anyway okay so I'm then leaving this small subway I'm the only person in there and it's one of the small ones there's like maybe one table maybe two or something and then there's a bulletin board and it's a bulletin board that has seen better days it's like a brown bulletin board where you can see the echoes of where things have been hanging for a long time at one place that the cork is sort of peeling off of it it's also attached to like a brown yellow wall so all the colors are just very drab or whatever but I love whoever decided to do this and i hope that they actually swap it out at the very top of this otherwise totally empty bulletin board at the very tippy top uh they just tacked a printout that says joke of the week and then another piece of paper underneath it as if they do swap it out from time to time in fact i should go there tomorrow maybe like over the weekend and report back and let you know if they have changed the joke out but this is how i'm starting the show today forget everything i just said this is how i'm starting the show today instead of just saying what was i going to tell you i'm going to say this why did the golfer bring two pairs of pants now this is interesting it doesn't say where he brought them but i'm going to say to the course i'm going to say why did the golfer bring two pairs of pants to the golf course why you really don't know you don't have you don't have a guess uh let's see

00:10:24 - 00:10:56 | Speaker 2:

okay uh the golfer uh two pairs of um two pairs of pants to the golf course um why did the golfer bring two pairs of i'm see here's i'm trying to get because this was a subway i feel like there is a joke in there is this sandwich related humor disabuse yourself okay so it doesn't have to do with sand wedge nope because oh interesting open face club sandwich okay nice i remember that from being a kid, and I thought maybe because it was in Subway that these were like the sandwich related joke of the week. I love that you're trying to use

00:10:56 - 00:11:16 | Speaker 1:

that context, but no. It has nothing to do with sandwiches nor bulletin boards, other than the fact that this was on a bulletin board in a sandwich shop. Okay, I don't know then. You just have to give it to me. Okay, but thanks for trying. Why did the golfer bring two pairs of pants to the golf course in case Luke, he got a hole in one. Oh! Hey, hey, hey, that, ladies and

00:11:16 - 00:11:20 | Speaker 2:

gentlemen. That's good act, ready to laugh and drop until your socks come off. That is a master's class.

00:11:20 - 00:11:25 | Speaker 1:

on how to start a podcast. Absolutely. I'm out. You take it from here.

00:11:26 - 00:14:26 | Speaker 2:

That was, Andrew, I have to say, that joke really actually paid off. I'm impressed. Well, what it reminds me of, and this is why it was such a great way to start the show, because it reminded me of something Subway-related I wanted to tell you, which is, I mean, so incredibly unimportant. But I told you that when I was on my way out of Portland, I seemed to have stumbled upon three or four local things that within a two-block walk from my apartment that would have been really great to know about when I was living there. One of them was a great Indian restaurant that I don't know if it's not going to probably win any James Beard Awards, but very serviceable Indian restaurant run by a really nice guy where I could have eaten like, well, it's a buffet. I could have eaten to my heart's content for a mere $20. I went there literally the last day I think I was living in Portland. The other thing was a bar that plays the Mariner games on television, which is very rare in Portland. See previous comments last week about me complaining or maybe earlier this week about what the broadcasters get up to. Not the broadcasters, but the Major League Baseball. But I found a bar. It was the game where I thought we were totally out of it because we were losing. And what's his name? Marlo, Cade Marlo, hit a grand slam in the ninth inning. And I was walking down the street dejected, and I look into the window, and like a beacon of hope, this giant television is playing the Mariners, and I squint, I look at the score, and we had made an improbable comeback. So that place was cool. And then the third place that I discovered in my last few days in my neighborhood was the nicest subway I've ever been in. And I've been driving by this place forever, because one of the things that was cool about the part of Portland I was in, and let's be honest, pretty much all of Portland was, there were tons of food options. Tons and tons of food options. And so when presented with a whole bunch of different places I could eat, Subway usually kind of moves down the list. If you and I are hitchhiking or rather if you and I are driving through Australia, maybe the Subway goes up the list. Or if I'm at a Love's truck stop, Subway, that's for me the time and the place for Subway. If I'm in a place that's dense with other food options, I don't usually choose Subway. But I was in a mood this day for whatever reason. Probably we'd been talking about Subway on the show. and i popped into this subway coincidentally andrew you know that's across the street from a goodwill is there something about subways and goodwill that go hand in hand smack dab yeah i smack dab my way right into that subway and when i walked in it was like i just looked around i was like are you kidding me right now it was clean they had all of the ingredients remember i said a few weeks ago i went to a subway literally in a truck stop and they didn't have tomatoes they didn't have ice for the soda like they were running low on everything this was the opposite everything was perfect everything was in stock and it was like nicely prepared it was nicely presented in the various containers you know what i mean you know sometimes they'll get slammed and then they'll just be like and i understand this i worked in

00:14:26 - 00:15:17 | Speaker 2:

restaurants i know what it's like to be in the weeds but like you'll walk in and it'll just be like there's like two sad tomato slices left in the thing or you know whatever this was all like they had lots of vegetables and they were all like in really great shape and it was the guy was really nice and there was some cute families in there and I was just like how did I not know this subway was here I would have been coming here more because to me the the one of the main impacts on my subway dining experience is is it going to be one like which is rare increasingly maybe as their financial fortunes have dimmed a little bit is it going to be one like this where it's just like clean and the people are happy you're there and they've got all the things they promised to have or is it going to be one where you just kind of feel like as i said this is real this is late stage capitalism at its finest this is where the as you like to say andrew we can see the center is not holding on our economy anymore as evidenced

00:15:17 - 00:15:37 | Speaker 3:

by this subway and this truck stop there is a um subway not far from my house where you have to literally step over a cockfight ring in order to order your sandwich and also you might have to stab somebody on the way out you do you probably know the one i'm talking about right up on aurora i don't know if you probably never darken the door very much imagine it it reminds

00:15:37 - 00:17:22 | Speaker 2:

me of another cockfight joke um that i remember from my childhood that i did not understand because i didn't know what a cockfight was there is a movie called not it's not called police academy andrew those movies were were very popular and starred big names like steve gutenberg and um Michael Winslow And Bobcat Goldthwaith and the like There was This other version of those movies I think Was called Night Patrol Like for somebody who thought Police Academy was Too highbrow may I present to you Night Patrol and I'm guessing too clothed Yes Oh believe you me I may have been intrigued by the Night Patrol Series of movies because of The hope of Some amount of nudity It just relied on every crass joke that we sort of don't make involving people's bodies and this that and the other uh there was by the way a running plot line in at least the first night patrol movie about somebody called the unknown comic do you remember the story of the unknown comic with a paper bag over his head yeah yeah yeah i think the unknown comic was kind of a thing in pop culture when i was a kid and i i think they put him it was like stunt casting they put him in the night patrol movie which made no sense like why is what why is part of the plot of this movie a guy doing his impression of the first man on the sun, and then he's just going, ooh, hot, hot, oh, ow, ee. Or like, here's one. This is, well, I don't know. This is a little blue. I won't tell the second one, but it involves a herd of cows enjoying themselves with themselves sexually and what you call it, and let's just say it bears a very close relation to the dish that we all grew up eating known as beef stroganoff, but just do the math. Do the math in your own head.

00:17:22 - 00:17:36 | Speaker 3:

I think that's funny that might be funnier in your telling of it than it is in reality you know who's in this movie by the way is Linda Blair they were trained at the police academy they

00:17:36 - 00:17:50 | Speaker 1:

were toughened on the streets of LA and now they're ready for you like patrol all right you guys prepare for inspection all right officers I want to clean up the city that's Billy Barty I

00:17:50 - 00:17:55 | Speaker 2:

believe the diminutive actor he's a little person yeah playing the police chief officers two and six

00:17:55 - 00:18:08 | Speaker 1:

yes sir kind of town yes sir we've got you completely surrounded sorry for the levels and officers four and one all right you guys take the billy billy

00:18:08 - 00:18:24 | Speaker 2:

barty's character was constantly flatulent that was one of the jokes the chief is walking around dressing dressing down the the police officers and sending their assignments and i believe without any comment he's just also just ripping ass yeah i heard him squeaking oh and okay now i'm skipping

00:18:24 - 00:18:36 | Speaker 3:

ahead here because it looked like we got into some just straight up homophobia so we're skipping over that that would be very likely but now we're getting to the end here and i see a whole it looks like a whole classroom full of kids with bags on their heads a la the unknown comic do you remember

00:18:36 - 00:19:05 | Speaker 2:

that i don't remember what how that became part of the plot i just remember there is a like a nightclub scene like a comedy club scene where the unknown comic is performing um and i remember I think those jokes are really good, but this is where it gets to cockfights. There is a scene where they go to break up an illegal cockfight, and they come into this alley, and there's this bunch of people gathered around. And I guess as an adult, I would understand that the implication was two roosters are fighting. But they get there, and it's just two naked guys, and each guy would take the other guy's head and slam it into his groin.

00:19:05 - 00:19:06 | Speaker 3:

I see.

00:19:06 - 00:19:08 | Speaker 2:

And that was what the cockfight was. It was a literal cockfight.

00:19:08 - 00:19:13 | Speaker 3:

It's a play on words. That's not what happens at my local Subway sandwich.

00:19:13 - 00:19:19 | Speaker 2:

I was assuming that even by the supposed lax standards of the SPD on Aurora, that would probably be shut down.

00:19:19 - 00:19:36 | Speaker 3:

I would like to get, only because I didn't know this trailer had that voice, that 80s voice. I want to hear, as we play the last 30 seconds of it, skipping ahead here, I want to see how he says Night Patrol at the end. Are they ready for Night Patrol? That's not what he's going to say, though.

00:19:36 - 00:19:50 | Speaker 2:

I want to try, I don't know if I've ever watched this trailer, but I want to try to think, I feel like he's going to say, um if they survive night patrol that's pretty good that's kind of what i feel like night patrol

00:19:50 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 3:

and okay i'm gonna say i'm gonna actually can maybe kind of stick with my initial intuition to say something like but they're not ready for night patrol let's take a listen okay

00:20:00 - 00:20:12 | Speaker 2:

night patrol oh whoa i think you i think yours was closer i didn't all i said i all he said was

00:20:12 - 00:21:26 | Speaker 1:

the name of the movie he didn't say anything but he went down oh i wasn't down with night patrol you went down with night patrol night you might have been right night patrol i like to hit all the notes what range um i had um i had a little flashback not even flashback i had a pleasant experience this morning in chicago going to the airport which is not really a thing people say usually in that order but um i got into the uber and well first of all this is getting kind of in the weeds but yesterday i was riding in a lyft in chicago and the lyft driver was explaining that he was it was a good thing because they had just the the lyft drivers of chicago had recently um been able to they'd recently gotten the right to see where the customer was requesting them to take them before they picked up the fare and this is one of those things where it's like uh i think actually i mean from a worker's right standpoint the people should be able to know the driver should be able to know if this is taking them in a wildly inconvenient place for them like that's really how it should be but I'm it also sent it sent a chill through me because I was like I'm often going to a place that's inconvenient yeah and also yeah and like there

00:21:26 - 00:22:00 | Speaker 2:

are places I'm just so used to Ubers and Lyfts being just a plenty where I live it never is an issue but even just a few years ago I was in the suburbs of Cleveland and trying to call a car after um after a night at the bar with my friend Jessica and it just like took forever of course I I think a snowstorm was a comment or something, but it just like even here, there are just been a lot more cars just circling, circling, circling, looking for fares. And like I had to wait. I had to wait for them to come from like, you know, a couple of cities away, not like Cincinnati, Toledo, but I mean, you know, a couple of suburbs away.

00:22:01 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 1:

Well, right. And again, like the big thing in Chicago is the airport. If you're staying down in the loop like I was and you're trying to go to the airport or trying to come in from the airport, that particular freeway is just a nightmare. And if you're a Lyft driver, what you probably don't want to have happen is you don't want to pick up a fare in downtown Chicago in the morning like I was and then go out to the airport and then just be sitting at O'Hare waiting a couple of hours for your number to come up to drive someone back downtown while you sit in traffic for another hour plus just stop and go on the road because that's also when you make even less money. I don't think most of these rides for folks are getting paid enough, as it is. So when the guy – but this is how sort of self-centered I am. Yesterday when I was – what happened yesterday was I needed to run to the bank. And I thought – it was about 4 in the afternoon. I thought, you know what? I'll get a nice little walk in. It's warm, but whatever. I'll just – it'll be good for me. I'll get a little walk. I'll get a little exercise, get some steps because the bank was, I don't know, eight blocks away from the hotel. I stepped outside, Andrew. I took four steps, and I said, nope, I'm getting a ride for this. it was unbelievably hot in chicago the last two days i mean like i think it was 108 i think it was or it was over 100 on wednesday or on uh yeah on wednesday was over 100 and with the humidity they were saying it might have been the heat index might have been the highest in recorded record in chicago but as i was in that in that lift the guy was saying yeah we can see where the fairs are now and my self-centered thought was well shit i'm never getting to o'hare again so sure enough this morning i get up and uh i by my standards not by andrew standards but by my standards i was actually a little ahead of the game my flight was at like eight i got up at quarter of six uh took a shower kind of packed up and i had basically like an hour i had it was supposed to take a half hour to get to the airport and then i would be at the airport an hour early and so i turn on the lift app and i start asking for you know a ride and then all of a sudden my worst fear starts being realized which is it's going uh we've uh we're locating a driver for you you'll get their info in 50 seconds and then it counts down and then at like zero seconds it goes still looking for your driver and i'm like you should have to know there's a driver with a specific name before you tell me that you're going to show me their info in 50 seconds you can't tell me you're going to show me the idea of a driver in 50 seconds and then it just keeps doing it and it's very misleading because they're very smart with how they've written the the app so you constantly think something's about to happen you constantly feel because they're showing you little bars are being completely progress bars are going little digital maps of the city are flashing on and off of the app it all feels very active even though what's really happening is 10 different lyft drivers are going are you shitting me i'm not going to o'hare right now that's what's really happening while the app is going like we've got them and they're they smell amazing you're gonna love this person i guarantee it exactly it's george zimmer from the men's warehouse now running lift. So, I'm

00:25:00 - 00:26:39 | Speaker 2:

was like uh-oh as i'm looking at my now my so this is going on for 15 20 minutes i'm like i've gone from being like this is a chill morning i i'm in good shape to being like critical this is a critical issue so i bop over to uber and just jam in like whatever like town pick me up in a pick me up in a limo i don't care just like i need to get to the airport right now i'll let wait wait don't tell me his budgeting system sort this out although i haven't submitted an expense to them in about four years so they really owe me but i was like so sure enough if you're willing to get like um you know a canyon arrow uh you can get a ride out to the airport and it was great because the guy who was driving a very nice guy named prevez who i had a good hour-long conversation with um he explained that he lives out by there and so he had been in downtown and he was looking to go home so we actually turned his he had turned his thing on with the intention of getting a ride to the or you know picking up a fare to the airport so it was good everybody wins but when i got in the car What I realized was he was listening to the morning AM radio news in Chicago. He was listening to a station called WBBM Newsradio, and it was just so great. It was just one of those give us 10 minutes, we'll give you the world, just like morning AM news radio that I just never listen to anymore. It never even occurs to me that it's still happening, and then you get in the back of basically a cab, And you're just listening to it all the way on the ride Up to the airport It was just like, I don't know why It was like a mother's embrace Just hearing those local ads Hearing the way that the news anchors talk It's all this schtick And I love it

00:26:39 - 00:28:34 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I listen to a little bit of that Here in town Because when I'm in the car I'm locked on that AM dial Like a lot of young cool people Yeah, maybe this isn't news to you Who say rizz They're like, that guy's got a lot of rizz look at him you do by the way raising up the am dial you are on kick see you do have riz yeah thank you i appreciate it and i'm trying to think what do they my buddy works there our friend works there i cannot remember what the como it was always como radio but now it's am 1000 yeah i think it's 97 7 well it's not that they're not called and como anymore because it's northwest and it's northwest news radio which is just like i cannot keep that name and like northwest was nfl hat taken exactly um so i listened to that that kind of classic news wheel you got your you got your rick van syce and his son taylor van syce holding down the holding down the ford over there they mention who's operating the news desk you know they're giving credit they're doing traffic on the sevens or what have you like i am uh i am i'm pretty locked into that i love it it is uh you know sometimes it's sometimes you don't you get the journalism that you expect unfortunately you know what i mean like this is not to get all into my issue and personal issues here but like it drives me crazy they will they will say there's an issue with homelessness and all they do is interview a bunch of business owners i'm just like mfers are you kidding me okay how about the next time there's a business story you just interview a bunch of homeless people how in the world is that like like whatever like i i just kind of hate that approach to to quote unquote journalism especially about a a topic and an issue that is so so complicated and it's like this person who owns a bagel shop has had enough anyway um so you get a lot of that but also but it's not like fox news it's not like it's not right sometimes it's bad journalism or lazy journalism but it's not like it's not something that is masquerading as journalism if that makes

00:28:34 - 00:29:22 | Speaker 2:

sense right oh you know just to um kind of uh i guess close the loop on something i said the other day by the way that's my that's my political satire that i'm going to make called close the oh i like it okay where i say something uh and and promise to talk about something on the show and then don't talk about it for like four days but when we were talking about national cinema day the other day i said oh yeah that got to the story i said i thought there was some bunk journalism and the first thing that i thought was a little bit kind of on the line was everybody was talking about this non-profit the like cinema association of america or something and it is a five that was that basically is is the entity that's coordinating this four dollar movie day Which, by the way, is on Sunday And everyone should go enjoy a $4 movie if they want to But it was like They kept calling it a non-profit And I was like, yeah, but they're not It's a non-profit, but it's not like

00:29:22 - 00:29:31 | Speaker 1:

It's an industry association Of course they're a non-profit But they're there to help the industry make profits They themselves are just incorporated as a non-profit

00:29:31 - 00:31:30 | Speaker 2:

Exactly, and everyone just kept calling them a non-profit And I was like, no, you know The Easter Seals is a non-profit Yeah, right This is an organization And by the way, to their credit on their website they are like yeah we exist to help promote you know the magic of cinema or whatever like you know they're like not trying to be like you're not trying to be misleading about it but it's very clear to anybody with a brain that something called the national cinema foundation or whatever that's promoting people going out to the theater is a place is is a is an entity that exists to promote movie theaters and there's nothing wrong with that i don't think movie theaters are a bad place at all i love them i hope they continue to exist but if i was writing that article i feel like i would i would say it's an industry organization that seeks to promote cinema not it's a non-profit like when they're not when they're not making kids wishes come true and when they're not looking for when they're not trying to desalinate water in sub-saharan africa they try to get more people to go see fast and furious like like just let's call it what it is and then the other thing that this is on the same kind of wavelength was one of the articles which i'm actually that i don't have in front of me because there's no reason to drag this poor person at usa today or something who wrote the article but at the end they they they have a description of the cinema foundation and they literally are like the cinema foundation is a non-profit that um i forget exactly how they put it but it was i went to the website it was just how the cinema foundation describes itself on its own website in other words like we're here to promote the magic of cinema for people young and old and like it's just a very glowing statement about and it takes as a given i guess is this begging the question it takes as a given that the there is a magic of cinema that everyone should experience you know what i mean and it's like well first of all i don't really disagree with that but also So it's not really super journalistic to just print how they describe themselves as what they are. Because, of course, they're going to say they exist to connect all people with the magic of cinema. Yeah, that's just not journalistic.

00:31:31 - 00:31:52 | Speaker 1:

Yes, certainly. And what you could do at least is say they describe themselves on their website as and then put it in quotes. But, yeah, don't just don't just like reprint themselves. Problem solved. They describe themselves as I have a transportation story I'd like to tell you. I know we're a little bit tight on time today. Would you like me to tell you the story now coming off the heels of your Uber story? This is something that happened to me yesterday.

00:31:52 - 00:32:37 | Speaker 2:

Yes, because honestly, everything else is pretty thin today. Stay tuned. I already told you. Here's – let me – can we get this since we're still sort of adjacent to the sandwich talk? Jimmy John's, the company that is going to buy Subway is the same company – it's the same private equity firm that already owns Jimmy John's. So the headline, Jimmy John's buys Subway is misleading. Yeah, it is. It's in punk journalism. Jimmy John's is not – I thought it was like that weirdo guy that founded Jimmy John's who I don't like because he's into big game hunting. But no, it's just this soulless, giant private equity firm that's just buying up all of the kind of mid-level restaurants in America, has acquired Subway as part of the portfolio. So that's the story there. Now that we've got that out of the way, we have more time for transportation.

00:32:37 - 00:32:50 | Speaker 1:

Okay, cool. So yesterday, our friend Amy Wu, whom we used to work with at American Public Media, and now she's at Chicago Public Radio, she was in town in Seattle. She's on a little trip from the Midwest.

00:32:50 - 00:33:01 | Speaker 2:

Well, you know that Amy Wu and I cannot be in Chicago at the same time. And if I travel to Chicago, she has to travel to Seattle. Oh, that's right. You were in Chicago, right? It's a conservation of former APM employees. We have to be spread out.

00:33:01 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 1:

Exactly, because otherwise you'll both be karaoke-ing until four in the morning. Precisely. I missed my flight today. She said something at dinner. She just said something like she was recounting some story and she was like, let's see. Yeah, because I remember I was at a piano bar until four in the morning. I'm like, that's the most Amy Wu thing I've ever heard in my life. I'm like, I can guarantee you that you are not lying. That was the truth test right there. But anyway, so I'm meeting up with Amy and a couple or a few of her friends whom I don't know. And actually a couple of whom she doesn't know either. she's traveling with her friend from Chicago her friend used to live here and um and it was her birthday her name is Ariel this friend so I get a note from Amy saying hey I'm in town I don't have great windows but I'd love to get together if possible I'm like Thursday would be good she's like Thursday's great but just so you know I'm getting together with my friend and some of her friends for her birthday and I'm like yeah that sounds like a perfect thing for me to just jump right into that right that sounds great but honestly I was kind of I knew that these were public radio people in some way I didn't know who they were but I just kind of got a and it's Amy I'm just like you know what like in all legitimacy no or I should say I don't know I often talk about how nervous I am about social interactions or whatever but maybe because I just had not seen Amy in so long and I got the impression these were going to be public radio people or public radio adjacent people like I didn't have any qualms about I'm like as long as they really don't mind me crashing somebody else's little birthday get together that sounds wonderful she's like yeah come on along so i uh i decide uh i am going to take a bus there because it looks like it's a pretty straight shot it's like one bus the e-line my beloved e-line oh you and the e-line goes straight down aurora and is just jam-packed with all kinds of characters and also sometimes has cockfights in the back of the bus um and naked kind look at all the different kinds i was Watching videos of pencil fighting yesterday by the way Okay was it

00:35:00 - 00:35:01 | Speaker 2:

Sort of, as I had described it?

00:35:01 - 00:35:10 | Speaker 1:

Sort of, yeah, but some people were flicking their pencil, like the aggressor, what we were calling the alpha pencil. Were you allowed to flick it, like hold it back? Yes, that's what you had to do.

00:35:10 - 00:36:22 | Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, gotcha. What you were not allowed to do was just swing it down like a sword. Oh, I thought you had to swing it like a sword. And just bash through. No, no, no, the rule was you couldn't do that. Sorry if I was unclear yesterday. Yeah, you weren't allowed to just windmill your arm with the pencil through the other person's pencil. You had to flick the other person's pencil, And that was where all these different strategies came in. So if you held the top of your pencil and bent it, that would potentially crack your own pencil. So what these kids would do, you want to talk about a lesson in practical physics, you know, not to be confused with practical rizzics, which is what I have, which is what I've been, how I've been described. Or the show Impractical Physics, which is a program I enjoy. i love that sort of thing it's like three comedians are hiding in a room somewhere watching somebody struggle with momentum yeah um you had to figure out where on the pencil could you bend it back so that you could get the maximum amount of thwack yeah out breaking your own pencil and it actually turns out it's not the top of the pencil a lot of times it's more down towards the base of the pencil so anyway i'm glad that you uh i'm glad that you are now up to speed on pencil fighting so we can maybe do have a pencil fight next time actually we should that'll

00:36:22 - 00:37:42 | Speaker 1:

be fun oh wow yeah next time we're together let's record a video yeah that's great um so anyway i know that i am meeting these folks at a place called hilltop alehouse and it's on queen anne hill so you get the impression that it's going to be i don't know there are a couple of clues in there that make you think this is going to be on a hill it's called hilltop alehouse and it's on queen anne hill right yeah but all i do is i put it in the map on my phone and it's like yeah you takes the e-line you get off the e-line right on aurora somewhere that i'm not super familiar with it's kind of right by lake union and then you just kind of cut over a few blocks and it'll be about it says like a 19 minute walk when you get off the bus and usually for me a 19 minute walk means it's going to be like probably closer to a 10 minute walk right i think they they err on the side of a slower walker potentially um so i'm like yeah that sounds good so i'm going to hit send on a text message to you here luke so you can i took a couple of screen caps of a map so you can see exactly where i got off the bus so i get off the bus and i'm in the middle of nowhere i mean i'm on aurora which is this big through fair that we talk about all the time but i'm at this area where there's nothing but like kind of trees and a couple of industrial shops sort of and then lake union on the other part and this is where 99 i don't even know if it's called aurora here it's just highway 99 technically here right where where does it stop being aurora is that a question for philosophy

00:37:42 - 00:38:08 | Speaker 2:

majors uh tune into philosophy talk thursday nights on opb tune into impractical philosophers so you were on the other side of the aurora bridge yes yes exactly so i'm just on the other side right and then and now you're just in kind of no man's land where there used to be a couple of motels there that fell into hard hard disrepair and and and you probably didn't go quite that far

00:38:08 - 00:40:29 | Speaker 1:

south are you going quite that far south not where that motorcycle shop is but there's almost nothing there and i don't know if you've gotten these shots yet but i did one in a as a satellite view so you can sort of see there's i get off the bus and it's just a lone bus stop in fact the satellite view that i sent you actually has a bus coincidentally stopped there at the moment this was taken thank you satellites uh and you can see there's just like a bunch of trees the highway and just like one building that i now see is called christopher goodwin motorsport but it's kind of a big warehousey kind of thing and i i get off the bus and i start walking i continue to walk south for just a few steps honestly on aurora i look down at my map and i realize oh no i was supposed to cut over before uh this building i was supposed to backtrack just a couple of feet but instead i'm walking so within within 10 seconds i realize i'm kind of walking the wrong way so i spin around and i'm looking at the map and immediately a man pops out of this what i now see is christopher goodwin motorsport it might actually have been christopher goodwin i don't know i didn't ask his name um but he just pops out of this windowless big building and just says what are you looking for in a friendly way and i'm like oh i'm uh i'm just trying to get like kind of i'm going up to some place called hilltop alehouse i don't even think i quite realized it was queen anne hill where i was going that's not a part of the town that i ever really go to so i don't really consider it much he's like okay well what you need to do is you need to go this way you're going to cut behind my building and then cut around and then go up this trail and then and then cut over and he's kind of describing it to me and I'm like okay and I know that there are places in the city especially when you bust it around a lot where it's like the sidewalk kind of ends but it becomes like kind of a shortcut through some sort of a culvert a culvert I don't know if I say that funny with my Ohio accent but there have been places in North Seattle where you're walking along following the map but then the the like residential areas sort of end I'm sorry.

00:40:00 - 00:42:55 | Speaker 2:

and you're cutting through a place that's wooded with a stream but there are some stairs built there or something like that these little shortcuts around our green city which i generally love and i say to the guy i'm like oh so is there a lot of stairs back there he's like no stairs just one big trail going up i'm like all right then i said you want to give me a ride and he looked at me for a second then he laughed um so i'm like okay whatever so i cut behind his his building i'm immediately luke in the goddamn woods and this trail is super steep i climbed up to queen ann hill from highway 99 i had to stop halfway up and just like catch my breath and now keep in mind now and also it's not even a hard-packed trail it's really dusty and sandy almost it's like hard to keep your footing you can tell that it is kind of google maps is recommending it and google maps is is a scaredy cat when it tells you to go places like it will like have me wind all the way around my neighborhood because there's not a crosswalk somewhere you know what i mean so like it's it's a designated place to get from point a to point b the city must acknowledge it in some way and maintain this trail in some way um but i'm first of all i'm like if anybody popped out here like not that i haven't like nobody's gonna attack me i don't have anything worth attacking me for but it's just kind of like i feel pretty vulnerable up here i'm already thinking well i'm not coming home this way i'll tell you that much if it's dark and i'm climbing up this thing and i'm going to meet some people who i've never met before so i can crash their birthday party and i am going to be sweating i'm going to be dirty as hell from kicking up this dusty path it was bananas i guess that's kind of where the story ends i climb my way up i'm cutting through luke i'm also assuming it was it was a relatively toasty day yesterday yes yeah and smoky and everything and um the it's like the trail is mostly cleared but there are areas luke where blackberry brambles as thick as like one of those really thick magic markers that you would graffito tag with like these huge things are coming down and i'm having to like kind of carefully move them out of the way without scraping myself up as i mean i needed a machete to get through there and then i get to the top of the hill and i'm just like so gross i'm sweaty and i'm out of breath luckily though um there was a little fully charged scooter waiting for me right at the top that zipped me so that was perfect because i could just get on that thing there were still a little bit of hills to climb but the the scooter was charged enough to even get to even get my bmi up there and by being on the scooter um it cooled me down a little bit the wind sort of blew in my face and everything so like that was like a real godsend so i wasn't totally huffing and puffing and drenched in sweat by the time i got to the restaurant and ended up being a really really fine night but i could not believe that google maps was like yes do this get off the bus and then just take a stroll through death woods

00:42:55 - 00:43:11 | Speaker 1:

yeah that is strange that that wouldn't be noted like that some somewhere in the whatever the the the not the algorithm but just however it is that it tell tells you what roads you can walk on and can't that it would know that that was something that was like pretty treacherous um and totally

00:43:11 - 00:43:18 | Speaker 2:

inaccessible too i mean you know if you can't get around well that um that place where you met it

00:43:18 - 00:43:28 | Speaker 1:

used to be called the paragon andrew and that was where one camaro kev and john and i all met for the very first time oh really many many years ago and in fact and also tom likus used to have a lot

00:43:28 - 00:43:32 | Speaker 2:

of meetups at the paragon oh tom likus was one of the people that i met last night i said they're

00:43:32 - 00:43:39 | Speaker 1:

all radio oh you really buried the lead you met tom you met the professor tom likas um you know

00:43:39 - 00:43:51 | Speaker 2:

who one of the people was actually somebody who i think you you might know just from um being in the business but kirsten the morning edition host for kplu because i'm sorry k and kx yeah exactly

00:43:51 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 1:

yeah so it's really i don't know if i know them but i've certainly listened to them on the radio for many many years um the other thing i was remember when you're talking about scooting about on those little scooters speaking of our friends jd and thunder from the stack of dimes podcast um jd and i were the ones that went to that explosions in the sky concert yeah because he had the extra ticket and afterwards we decided to go and have another drink and so we i don't usually mess with those scooters but i probably had just enough beers and john thought it sounded like a fun idea so we jump on one of those scooters and we're trying to go to this bar in portland called suki's because they have karaoke for him and they have the video machines for me everything two growing boys could want um and so we jump on these scooters and like you know they're all now made with a little holder for your phone so because i'm i'm still a little unfamiliar with parts of portland so i put on my map i put on ways find this bar we were going to suki's and we're zooming up the hill we go over 405 at one point we're not actually on the freeway but it's almost like we're about to merge onto the freeway and and we're on these streets and i keep thinking this is wildly unsafe what are they doing then i realized we're right

00:45:00 - 00:45:26 | Speaker 2:

we're pulling up oh i asked ways yeah i was gonna say does ways do a walking they don't andrew i was gonna say i didn't know they did that see see previous beers comment yeah i'm just so used to like every time i get in my car i turn on ways pretty much if there's anything confusing for me and so that's my default setting so i was basically telling ways i'm a motor vehicle get me to this bar and it was having us do all kinds of things that were really not

00:45:26 - 00:45:42 | Speaker 1:

super safe i remember one time this is a long long time ago i thought if i ever did stand-up comedy i'd have some joke that was somehow based around the fact that i like to impress my phone by telling it that i'm walking somewhere but actually get in my car and drive the route i don't know

00:45:42 - 00:46:07 | Speaker 2:

exactly well you know what my version of that is i will be running sometimes like i'll go to the gym or something or you know i'll be like a treadmill even uh and then i'll forget to stop my watch and then i'll be in my car and then my watch thinks i am like so fast yeah and it hurts me to level with my watch that that's not what's happening like it'll also be like man you did like 10 miles so yeah like eight of it was me accidentally driving to the jimmy johns

00:46:07 - 00:46:49 | Speaker 1:

with the watch on i know this sounds like this sounds like a hacky joke but i swear it's true i never had one of those fitness tracker watches but i did uh i did have a phone luke and i'm thinking now i'm pausing because i don't know why this stopped working on my phone but for a while there i had some function on my phone where i don't know if it was samsung fitness or google fitness some app that came with my phone would always congratulate me when i hit a certain number of steps or whatever like i didn't have to activate it would just tell me like you've done this many steps today and i was on the plane one time going through turbulence and the phone congratulated me and i was like oh i don't know i don't know how to break it to your phone that's

00:46:49 - 00:47:57 | Speaker 2:

the other side of that uh which i get a little frustrated like it happened to me on the flight home today um is that my watch is always telling me to stand up like i think once an hour it says all right it's time to stand get moving which is all fine but i want to tell it i'm in the window seat right now dude like right yeah like i'm trying to be nice to everybody on this plane by not making them get up and let me out so just cool it watch yeah yeah yeah hello and welcome to top story all right our little top story today is just an update on something we talked about already which was this idea that netflix was um officially saying that if you had their dvds because there were still some people getting dvds mailed to them um it was weird now that now that they've said you can keep the dvds the whole story is odd to me because what what we were reading earlier this week was netflix is telling people this was netflix sent an email out saying um we've got something special in store for you might get up to 10 additional dvds and everyone was like cool so you're giving us the dvds but then netflix's official line was but you

00:47:57 - 00:48:12 | Speaker 1:

do need to return the dvds even though they're they're they're doing this as a celebration of sort of like the ending of the service so the assumption is oh well then if you're ending the service and you're sending a bunch of these things out it's because you don't want them anymore yeah But then they were like, no, no, you've got to send them back. We can't legally let you keep them.

00:48:13 - 00:50:00 | Speaker 2:

Right. And so it was – what I think was that their intention was always to let people keep the DVDs. And then they got caught. Like there was some legal loophole. I think when they sent that email out basically saying like, and more DVDs coming your way, that was them trying to get rid of them. And then somebody in legal was like, we don't actually have the – we don't own the content on these DVDs. We're merely leasing it and subleasing it to our customers. So someone in legal basically got a hold of somebody at Netflix who then had to say, no, no, but officially you're supposed to send them back. My advice the other day, and this is why people should always listen to me, was never send them back. Just don't. I was like, how much money is Netflix going to spend on people trying to track down DVDs going forward? I would say no money at all. So now there's a headline from The New York Times as of, I think the other day, Reggie Agwu writing. I like Reggie. He was a good Twitter follow when I was on Twitter. But basically saying, Netflix says you can keep the DVDs and request more of them, too. So what I have not seen in the article, and I have to admit, I was scanning it quickly because the Wi-Fi on the airplane was spotty at best. So I didn't have great connectivity. But what I didn't really see in this article was a description of why or an explanation of how they got around this thing with the movie studios. Yeah, what gives? What changed? It doesn't, unless I missed that line in this article, in this Times article, I do not believe that they addressed that. I don't know if it's just one of those things where they just feel like, I mean, the movie studios just don't care that much or what, but it's not addressed. They're either just flaunting that rule or they just are like, somehow they've gotten some kind of...

00:50:00 - 00:50:04 | Speaker 1:

confirmation from this from the the owners of the actual content that it's okay for them to do this

00:50:04 - 00:50:09 | Speaker 2:

so this story isn't about a retraction it's just a different story from a different news source

00:50:09 - 00:50:42 | Speaker 1:

that is saying the opposite of the other thing we read exactly and it's the new york times you know so i tend to believe them um also you can sign up if you sign up before august 29th andrew you can request up to 10 additional movies am i crazy should i like sign up for netflix for a week try to get what is it three is it still like you can have three in your queue that's what it was back when i was on the dvd plan 10 years ago there were different levels i think but yeah could i get 13 dvd i mean i would sign up for the cadillac whatever the most i could have but then

00:50:42 - 00:51:18 | Speaker 2:

you just have these dvds that are in these like crappy paper sleeves like if you if you have any desire to own a dvd just spend 14 you're a 14 air like just buy it not with this construction project or whatever it is, and you get the, I mean, you get the pamphlet, you get the, I mean, that's the whole thing about physical media is, I was never the kind of person who kept my CDs in one of those binders, because for me, the whole point was like taking it off the shelf, opening up the jewel case, smelling it a little bit, maybe talking to it, maybe kissing it a little bit, patting it on its head, patting it on its head, putting it in the CD player, saying, go, go, go, pushing the

00:51:18 - 00:53:32 | Speaker 1:

button. Yeah, you're right about that, like the lack of the the lack of the case is i mean just a drawer just think about like a drawer full of loose dvd yeah that you would never watch yeah true but also andrew i smell a deal i'm just i'm just saying i promise you veves would have the same take yeah maybe not as with susie i believe oh if she absolutely she's still on vhs but yes if she was a dvd gal yeah but like just this idea that this idea that i can i could sign up for this service and get a bunch of dvds right before they shut it down i mean i'm helping them because again it's probably more expensive for them to for them to destroy all these dvds than it is for them to just mail them out at like mail rate whatever the like the lowest form of shipping is have you heard who who was the company oh xian you know this like extremely extremely bad for the world fast fashion brand out of china called xian i don't know if i do they um i mean i don't see you spending a lot of time in the online space shopping for things from the Shein company but what they do that's a really it's a very profitable business approach for them is they basically are really good at figuring out what is in style in terms of clothing and then making a crazy cheap knockoff of it really fast so the same week that a certain style of pants becomes like a thing that you're seeing on various you know Kardashians or whatever Shein will, they're accused of basically stealing the designs and then just making, like, a pair of pants or a shirt or whatever that you wear, like, two times before they disintegrate on your body. But that's about the amount of time, if you're a real fashionable person, that might be the amount of times you even want to wear something. And, of course, it's made in these what are alleged to be absolutely deplorable conditions in various places. I mean, it's a really bad scene, but what jumped out at me, I was listening, again, Andrew, to, actually, I don't know if this was Today Explained, our new favorite show, But it was If it wasn't today explained It might have been It was definitely A public radio show And Shein This is on the subject Of mailing Andrew That's where I'm taking things On this Friday We're going into The weekend strong Closing things out With a conversation About mailing

00:53:32 - 00:53:36 | Speaker 2:

Well we already covered Paint drying on Wednesday So what are you going to do

00:53:36 - 00:54:24 | Speaker 1:

By the way I've got updates on that too It's going to need Another code in here Dang it Shein Has gotten Some kind of a thing Where They don't have to pay The normal commercial mail cost, mailing costs because something like where each piece of clothing they mail out is considered a separate business transaction. So they're not a giant Chinese company that's feeding on the lives of the people that have to make the clothing and also destroying the environment through all this clothing that gets created and immediately thrown out. They're not that, Andrew. They're a small retailer that sells one sweater at a time and so they don't have to pay the same shipping rates as a lot of other companies because they have figured out a way to define what they do as like a person sending another

00:54:24 - 00:54:40 | Speaker 2:

person a sweater huh oh i see sort of like on paypal or something like that if you if you say this is a business track transaction you're gonna have to pay a fee to paypal or you can say this is a person-to-person transaction you don't have to pay it and it's like i think i'll go with the one

00:54:40 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 1:

where i don't have to pay the fee right and and something also like about the scale of the operation like if they're doing a billion dollars of business every year that's a certain kind of obligation but if they're just a small mom and pop that sells sweaters here and there and they can get each interaction defined somehow narrowly as its own discrete event it puts them in a different

00:55:00 - 00:55:16 | Speaker 3:

It's like me mailing you. It's like a listener mailing something to the TBTL PO box. We do get a lot of stuff from Sheehan there, by the way. Yeah, I was wondering where that's all coming from. Maybe you can go check that. I got a couple of crop tops coming in I'm excited about. Hey, how about a little music for your weekend before we get on out of here, Mr. Andrew?

00:55:16 - 00:55:31 | Speaker 4:

Sure, sounds good. This was foretold, Luke. The prophecy was? Last week on the show, I told you that I was going to play a song about divorce and baseball, which I like to play on the show from time to time. And it was that song by Breathe Owl Breathe.

00:55:31 - 00:55:34 | Speaker 3:

I believe it's and I assumed it was going to be I bet the song you're going to play today.

00:55:34 - 00:56:28 | Speaker 4:

And you said, oh, you're going to play a Petey song. I said, oh, no, but he does work kind of baseball imagery into a lot of his songs. Now, one of our I think one of our first song like we knew Petey as Petey USA, a tick tock comedian. But then you introduced me. I think the very first song we heard him do as a musician just who goes by Petey was There's More to Life Than Baseball, which is a very kind of wistful, kind of downbeat song about nostalgia and baseball and being kids and stuff. And I think that was my introduction to Petey the musician. I'm not going to play that song now because, again, it's a little bit downbeat and also because we've played it before. But I am going to play this song, Pitch a Fit, by Petey off of his album Lean Into Life. And there's a little bit of baseball imagery in here, not quite as on the nose, but it's a lot more upbeat. take a listen I'm sure you know this whole record right Luke you've I actually know it less well

00:56:28 - 00:56:58 | Speaker 3:

than you do I I've everything I've heard from him I really like he has a new record coming out right now by the way my my social media feeds are start are starting to pop up with him playing these live shows now I've also not been to his live show and you have so you definitely outrank me in terms of pd fandom that's right that's what it is hauser is the top soldier yes yes hauser is the top of the is the top of the heap because he once changed a hat because he felt embarrassed in front of pd

00:56:58 - 00:57:03 | Speaker 4:

but he's also met pd a couple of times now shows up to all of his shows yeah yeah that's the that's

00:57:03 - 00:57:07 | Speaker 3:

he's the number one fan in the group but then it goes you and then it goes me okay so this song is

00:57:07 - 00:57:12 | Speaker 4:

called pitch a fit i'm going to play a bit of this so we can get to the part where he talks about pitching

00:57:12 - 00:57:38 | Speaker 1:

you could tell a lie you could tell a lot of lies they will never know when they're looking in your eyes when you know it ain't true but they don't know it ain't true you're not thinking about them you're just thinking about you

00:57:41 - 00:58:39 | Speaker 2:

You were 13 when you had your first cigarette Yeah, we did acid at your parents' house in Tahoe What were the names of the kids that you was babysitting? You had the fear of missing out, like fearing God of Wisconsin Yeah, I've never been scared about nothing I swear he punched Jesus in the mouth That a house in the Washington did Or was it just a man from old water? Yeah, he could never ever son No, he won't ever ever daughter of shit So he'll go on and pitch a bet Say you wanna pitch a bet, y'all Well, you're pitching like you got a cab Running with the meter on outside the stadium Say you wanna pitch a bet, y'all Well, you're pitching like you got a cab Running with the meter on outside the stadium.

00:58:40 - 00:58:54 | Speaker 4:

I love that song so much. So, so much. And I also know that this is the exact kind of music that I'll hear from listeners and say, I just never understand the music you guys listen to. It just sounds like noise to me. Oh, man.

00:58:54 - 00:58:56 | Speaker 3:

I think that's so melodic and catchy. The lyrics are good.

00:58:56 - 00:59:10 | Speaker 4:

I love it so much. It makes my heart race. It really does. It's one of those songs. I've heard it a million times. This whole record, when another song, when it just switches from one song to the next, It's one of those records I love so much It literally increases my heart rate

00:59:10 - 00:59:17 | Speaker 3:

Well how does your heart rate Feel about the fact that Petey has now listened to this show I mean do we know that as a fact

00:59:17 - 00:59:22 | Speaker 4:

I mean it sounds like somebody said something nice Oh yeah he says he liked it What do we know

00:59:22 - 00:59:52 | Speaker 3:

Well I mean I was told By someone in the know That he was excited He was impressed, he liked it, he became a fan Or he enjoyed that part of the conversation I'm saying I think there's a i mean i wasn't sitting there i didn't i wasn't you know i wasn't like he wasn't chained to a chair being forced to listen that i'm aware of but let's just say even if it's a 50 50 shot pd might have actually heard you talking about his music which is really heard the show where

00:59:52 - 00:59:56 | Speaker 4:

i just said i don't have anything to talk about today he's definitely didn't continue listening

00:59:56 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 3:

we know that that's a 100 chance that he listened

01:00:00 - 01:00:29 | Speaker 2:

once and that was pretty much that's the problem with this show like when i was like hanging out with people that i had problem that's one of the problems with this show and my relationship to it and my contributions to it is some you know like i realized yesterday at some point i'm like oh some of these folks who i'm having dinner with might have listened to the show um and if so like what the hell did they hear did they hear a show that i felt like really good about where we were like zinging and zanging which is something that we do and we're doing a good job yeah or they listen to a show where we're binging and banging which is what we do we do a bad job

01:00:29 - 01:01:23 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know. Well, listen, you should have seen because this all came about because I'm doing a TV story and it's centered around a woman named Becca Milstein who runs this tinned fish company and happens to be a partner of Petey's. And when Becca said to me, oh, we all enjoyed listening to the you made some fans in the Milstein home or whatever with TBTL. My response was like, oh, God, please don't listen to that or something. Yeah, right. Like like I'm exactly like, well, at least you feel like there are good days. At least you're like, there are the days that are bad, but then there are the good days. I'm just like, no good days. I'm like the most opposite of like, you know, you know those guys that are driving those trucks and they live to just tow their boat to the lake and they have salt life as one of their bumper stickers and the other is no bad days. And it's got like two palm trees. My take on TBTL is no good days. No good. No days. I want anyone who I look up to to listen to, please.

01:01:23 - 01:01:27 | Speaker 2:

But also thank you donors who do find enjoyment in this show and appreciate it.

01:01:27 - 01:01:43 | Speaker 1:

I'm going to pull, can I pull a little, an Audible here? Because that PD song had me thinking a little, it's not exactly like this, but it's a little bit in the neighborhood of a song that I love and I haven't played on the show for the longest of times. And that is a song by Cassiotone for The Painfully Alone.

01:01:43 - 01:01:44 | Unknown:

Oh, yeah.

01:01:44 - 01:02:01 | Speaker 1:

That's a guy named Owen Ashworth, who actually is a friend of the show at one point. And there's this song called White Corolla by Cassiotone for The Painfully Alone. Came out in 2009. I do believe it exists on the various platforms. Are you able to locate that song?

01:02:01 - 01:02:02 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got it right here.

01:02:03 - 01:02:16 | Speaker 1:

Okay, let's just hear a little. That PD song, the synthesizer or whatever you'd call it in that song, had me thinking about Casio Tone for The Painfully Alone. Take a listen to this. Your little white car looks like a rental.

01:02:17 - 01:02:20 | Unknown:

Then it's dolled to save on cause the starter's temperamental.

01:02:20 - 01:02:42 | Speaker 3:

Call your boyfriend, it goes to voicemail. leave a message baby get me please wait at the laundromat read a magazine tear out the page with the picture of some shoes you get impatient go to a cafe see a girl from your high school but you look away

01:02:42 - 01:02:54 | Unknown:

You take your coffee back The way your mother would

01:02:54 - 01:03:06 | Speaker 3:

One packet sweet and now one packet sugar Your boyfriend texts you He's sorry that he's late He didn't hear the ring He's on his way On his way On his way On his way

01:03:06 - 01:03:10 | Unknown:

On his way On his way On his way On his way

01:03:10 - 01:03:23 | Speaker 1:

And that might almost be the end of the song. Cassio Tone for the Painfully Alone. Have I played that song for you at various points? I've always been a fan of that.

01:03:23 - 01:03:44 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I don't think I had that song on a playlist, but this is like the era when I was spending a lot of time kind of digging through MP3 blogs and listening to new music that was like independently released and stuff. And I remember Cassio Tone for the Painfully Alone being a big part of that era. But, again, I don't know if I only know that song through you or what, but I'm glad you played it.

01:03:45 - 01:04:03 | Speaker 1:

The listener's suggestion, which you don't actually see if it's a surprise. I'm born in prison. Wait, is that you making that noise? That is my computer, because when I was looking for the Netflix DVD story, it just started showing me Netflix, and then Netflix just started playing. I see. That is Netflix.com.

01:04:03 - 01:04:13 | Speaker 2:

I see. Also, that kind of hit the internet a little bit as well, so you kind of dropped out. we didn't hear what you were saying and then we heard somebody walking through marshland so just wanted to let

01:04:13 - 01:04:16 | Speaker 1:

everybody know. Andrew, it's like I like to say no good days.

01:04:17 - 01:04:22 | Speaker 2:

That was the best part of the show. So you're going to play this are you going to play something from your end?

01:04:22 - 01:05:55 | Speaker 1:

No, I was on the airplane putting this together and right when I was about to find out the name of the song that the listener was suggesting that was when the internet stopped cooperating and so I now have it because i've gone to the source material but uh it's a it's a short and sweet uh suggestion from listener katie who says this is a sweet little summer jam that's all and i haven't even listened to the song andrew but it's by a band a canadian band i think named tops okay that i know is real good because my daughter the coolest person i know Loves My daughter, the second coolest person I know, suggested that I listen to Tops, and I do really like some of their music. They have kind of a really cool, somewhat throwback-y sound, and I think the song is called Perfected Steps. I'm doing that from memory, Andrew. Perfected Steps by Tops. Okay. I'm seeing Tops. Does the internet tell you that that's a song? It's not one of their most played songs. Well, that's because listener Katie is a cool cat, which I think is actually literally a top song. Yeah, there it is, Perfected Steps. Found it. Got it. Look at that, Katie. Way to go with a deep cut. Nice. So that's what we're going to go out with this week. That's how we're going to wrap up the show for the week. Thanks, everyone, for hanging out with us. Thanks for being part of TBTL. We'll see you on Monday. In the meantime, have a great weekend. Stay safe. Go Mariners. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. You're Chevrolet and packed crowds.

01:05:55 - 01:06:47 | Speaker 2:

Back in the heyday, back fast Like the proof photo You did your best to downplay your mistakes I said it's center stage just like you made them The American way, all of your mistakes I said it's center stage just like you made them With only the seasons Keep in time Who do you wanna be There by your side Born in a big head Casting light Over the empty seats Night after night Solo and dying style Wants to dance over again Perfected stance Was so big back then

01:06:50 - 01:07:00 | Speaker 1:

Sir, do you have any idea how super cool you are? Yeah. Thanks. I have a picture of you for above my bed, please.

01:07:00 - 01:07:01 | Speaker 2:

Power out.

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