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well look at that we are at the final day of week one of the tbtl summer games that's right it's a friday y'all hope you're having a good one my name is luke burbank i am your slightly nervous host for this episode of the summer games i'll explain in a moment once i welcome my good friend in the longest running co-bro of the show andrew walsh to the program andrew

welcome hello hello salutations i'm the very nervous host you're the summer nervous host

i'm extremely nervous myself here because what i'm realizing and you know this is of course the the time during the summer where we pre-record some shows and then we get to take a little a little time off and um we were having some technical times the this is the the both times that we've sat down to record some summer games there have been some issues on my side and And it has to do with my internet connectivity. And the short version, Andrew, is I just realized that while I have this particular setup going for you where I am connected, physically connected to the internet router at my house, it means that I'm not charging my laptop. So my laptop, the thing that's allowing me to get on the internet, to get on the Google Chrome and then get on the Source Connect program and then talk to you, that laptop is not currently getting a charge. So this is what I have done. It has probably, I'd say, maybe a third of its battery life left. My dream is that that will be enough to get us through this episode. And then I have the whole weekend to figure out some kind of new approach. I can go find a different dongle. I don't know. I can get creative. I do have another. I have a USB-C to double USB, which might help. That might come in handy. But I have turned my screen completely off because I'm under the impression that what eats most of the power when your laptop is running is lighting the screen up would you say that's probably what's what's going to use what's the biggest drain on the battery um now i am really

nervous yeah um i think that's probably pretty smart so what's the deal you only have one working input on that so it can either be the thing that connects you to the audio board or the thing that

powers it up this is where i knew things were going to get complicated um i have the the brand of macbook air that i have it only has two inputs on the entire computer and they are just two little usbc inputs i guess that's in the interest of streamlining everything and of making me buy new products so thank you very much tim apple for making that happen so in order for me to be connected to the internet to an ethernet cable i have to be using this dongle and this dongle thing plugs into, takes up both of my existing USB-C ports.

Yeah. So you could use a splitter, potentially.

Well, I don't have a two USB... I don't have a one USB-C to... Because here's the thing. I need to have two USB-Cs in, because one of them is what I use to talk to you on this other little program, this other little product called the MixPre, right? The DAWs, the digital input that I use. See, the listeners... This has actually been useful, Andrew, because the listeners think that this is just some kind of, you know, we're talking to each other on two tin cans with a string running up the Columbia River. No, man, there's digital audio, whatever the W stands for. There's a lot going on here. So I've got one USB-C coming in from my MixPre, and then I got another one coming in from the Power, and that should be sufficient, but for some reason it isn't. It's just one of those funky things. Funky little thing. So I have, first of all, I have another one of these dongles somewhere, Andrew, because you know me. I'm nothing if not in love with buying multiples. And so when we're done with this show, I'm going to change out the dongle and see if that works. And then if not, I can go up to the future home of TVTL, which is just up the stairs, up in the studio.

It's hot, though. Stay hydrated.

It is hot. I will. I'll make sure to power hydrate before I do it. And then I'll grab, I have another cable that is a one USB-C to two USBs. And I think I might be able to use that. This dongle I have has a million inputs. I think I might be able to work around this. My point is I'm going to be able to work.

around it but and we're not on red yet i'm okay i'm occasionally turning on my screen to to check and see how much battery life i have left if it gets to red i'll tell you we can as we say stop down andrew and i'm not recording my my backup audio file it's not on the computer it's on the mix pre so i think we're going to be in okay shape i'm going to be monitoring it but what i'm going to really lean heavily on you this week or this day rather is to run the quiz can you run the quiz

I can run the quiz. That reminded me that we have a quiz to do. Are you just messing with me now? Wait, what? Did you lose me? Can you not hear me? Yeah, there you go. Now you're back?

Yeah, you totally went away. What was that all about? Was that just an internet thing? That was an internet fluke because I thought, here's what I thought was happening. I thought you were just messing with me by turning off the music and everything just to be like suddenly, in the words of the band, spiritualized. I am floating in space. I thought you were just being funny, turning off your side of the recording.

Quote, unquote, funny.

And the broadcast, so that I thought, oh, man, and that's why you probably heard me say something to the effect of, like, are you joking me? And then, no, it was just... But again, all of this high-wire act we're doing, and I think you can agree, the listeners are riveted by this high-wire act. Yeah, yeah, no. All of this is related to the idea that I'm supposed to have a really good internet connection with you right now because I have this hard-lined ethernet cable, Which I'm feeling like In the next five years We're not even going to be able to There won't even be the technology Allowing for plugging Ethernet Into a computer Because it would be so rare That you would need this You know what I mean? Like Wi-Fi for almost everything First of all, Wi-Fi is getting faster and faster But it's just like There's very few things anymore That you would need to be able to Physically connect your computer To a cord that connects to a router or a modem

So there's a moment that happens to me several times a year and it happens when I have to set up a remote recording station for us somewhere and then when I come back and I set everything up back in my studio and that moment is when you set up all of the hardware that you need okay I need a computer here I need a computer here I need a digital interface here recorder goes there audio board there amplifier for the headphones there speaker blah and you set it all out and you're like yes i can keep this really neat this time and then you're like okay now time to plug all these things in we'll try to keep it minimal okay plug this in okay well that needs a send and a return and then this and then well this one needs power headphone amp needs power and then the board and then the output of the board got aux one got aux two next thing you know you're like it's impossible it is impossible to set this stuff up in a neat and orderly way because of all of the cables that are involved and there's always a moment where i'm like this time it's going to be great and simple and simplified and then you just you need all these cables and i always think to myself this is going to be a little bit macabre but i think to myself there is a future that i will not live to see where people who are doing essentially what i'm doing now can do all of this without any of these cables it's going to be whether it's bluetooth it's going to be i don't know battery for i don't know like how the power is going to get to things i don't know how the signals are going to get to things but we're already seeing it with bluetooth technology and wireless charging and all those things there's going to be somebody in the future but this is a future that like i will never see a completely wireless studio i just simply won't i mean you've seen my diet um and so um you know i mean maybe for super super i don't even think the richest person in the world could put together a good sounding workable studio in 2023 without nary a cable and so uh that always makes me a little wistful i feel like i and yeah we probably won't

live to the day if we do get to the 8 000 episode though i assume that i'll be standing in a room like tom cruise in minority report and i'll just be like moving around hologram screens when i need to get to the next story i'm reading from the new york times and i'll just be talking to you but there won't be any visible microphone or cables or like you said cords it will be some somehow there will it will be this magical thing where i'm just wandering around talking to you but in no way am i worried that my laptop is dying because the dongle that i bought doesn't for some reason support charging well i don't think that's going to be part of the 8 000th episode

the problem with that scenario is we will also have pre-crime recognition and you will already be serving time for a for a crime that you have yet to commit why am i laughing at that isn't that the point of that movie where he's wishing everything around in minority i think he's pre-criming with those yeah isn't it aren't they also called pre-cogs i think the pre-cogs yeah that's the thing i don't that's a philip k dick book right i believe so that's the one i feel like i read the source material but i don't remember it um i definitely saw the movie and i gotta say like i like technology but when the

technology becomes sort of organic certainly any kind of magical but also like sort of it just sort of felt like oh we have all this futuristic technology but it's also coming from these like organic magical beings that right no no i agree with you like i'm just like that like if

and there's a part where there's like practically like a billiard ball remember like the pre like whatever the machine is like i swear the way it tells you what the pre-crime is eventually is not unlike when you re-rack the balls at a bar that you put like 75 cents in the pool table and you shove them in in that like little device and then it releases the balls i feel like there was like something that was shockingly kind of uh low tech about the way that the pre the way that the thing finally comes out like samantha morton is like lying in a pool of like special saline and she's thinking about crimes that are about to happen and then tom cruise is up there doing Doing his own moving around Of the holograms And then I feel like at the very end of that process It's like a chicken lays an egg And then the egg is And then like lays an egg And then the egg is like Luke's gonna do a pre-crime

Luke I just did I just pulled off The ultimate crime While you were talking While we're talking about you and I Describing and in some cases Misdescribing movies

Doesn't sound like us.

I just made a programmatic change. I swapped out the quiz that we were going to do today for this one that we were originally going to do tomorrow. But it's just too perfect the way you've set this up. This is from listener Lauren, who says, one of my favorite TBTL things is when you and Luke try to recap a movie. It tickles me every time. Oh, that's good. I'm glad. Boy, there's a kink for everybody. Can you guys guess the movie based on your own recaps? And I have this here, and the way Lauren set it up, without getting too much of the details of the spreadsheet, because I feel like we've already gone into too many technical details, she sent it in in a way that I should be able to administer this for both of us. It also includes hints as well. By the way, I want to point out that originally Lauren, and by the way, I want to make this, this is a different Lauren than the Vanderpump rules.

I was wondering about that. And I mean, I would have no problem with it. i would just think at some point we are going to be sued for wage theft yeah if the same lauren has created almost all of the summer games content let me double check yes these are definitely

different laurens so for whatever that's worth um but wow it has been four four laurens in a row four laurens um okay so lauren originally made this quiz i think a while back and then never sent it in because she thought we might find our own words too cringy maybe or generally speaking She thought, ah, they'll never use my quiz. And then that thing happened on the show, I don't know, months ago now, where for no reason whatsoever, I made some bad comparison. I said, it's like Johnny Depp in that movie about cocaine. But I wasn't even talking about the movie Blow. Like, it was the most distracting thing ever. I think you were talking about Donnie Brasco or something. Donnie Brasco, exactly. And she's like, and around that time, I was saying, boy, somebody should make a quiz based on the quotes from Luke and I. Who said it? Well, it turns out that Lauren had already made this quiz, never sent it in, and then was inspired by those things to finally dust this thing off. And I think this is an amazing topic for a quiz. Here's your first one, Luke. This is a quote from you, Luke Christian Burbank, describing a movie. This is the plot of the movie. I think we're going to start pretty easy here, I think. Okay. From episode number 3561, you said, his bike being missing is the plot of the whole film.

Oh, well, that, of course, would be paging Mr. Herman Pee-wee's Big Adventure.

You're absolutely right. I can't find my bell. Genevieve stole my bell for after these messages. Oh, it's all the way across the table, Luke. Here we go. That is absolutely right, Luke. It was, we're starting off kind of easier there, but what I like is Lauren also included hints in case these get more difficult. And the hint for this one was Andrew was kind of bummed that he no longer has the VHS tape of this movie, which is something that I just brought up a few weeks ago on the show when Paul Rubin sadly died. And we were talking about Pee-wee's Big Adventure and how I had what I believe to be a special version of the VHS tape of Pee-wee's Big Adventure, which was like sort of formatted incorrectly. And so I could kind of see like some of the stage work happening around along the sides of the movie.

uh do you think lauren wrote this quiz in response to you saying that or do we just have that few observations around various things that it was both in the quiz and a thing that came up in the

interim um i believe that she made this quiz long before we had you said that she didn't even send it in exactly so um i think that i've got i've got i've probably got 15 stories to tell

That's a lot. That's high.

But if you're trying to do thousands and thousands of episodes, it doesn't get that high.

At one time, I had five, and I lost one of them.

Oh, no.

Due to a lawsuit.

Yeah, right. Exactly. Well, you can't say anything anymore is what happened there. No, you sure can't. Okay, so I'm off to a hot streak. One for one. How many clues are there? This is, wow, there's a lot of these, and this is really fun. So I don't know. I don't want to make any promises, but this could potentially span a couple of episodes again.

We might have to Vanderpump this up to cover multiple episodes. I'm down for that.

Okay, this is a quote that I said. This is me at some point. I guess back in episode 3561, I said, this is kind of like the DC equivalent of Deadpool. Aren't they kind of similar? Like cheeky, break the fourth wall, talk directly to the reader or viewer? To the reader. Oh, God, yeah. No, it's really something when you see your own words there in print. This is a movie that talks directly to its readers. I know, I remember this description. What is the DC? Oh, I know, I know. Do you know? So it is a DC product. Yeah, so you know how Deadpool has Ryan Reynolds, I believe. And he's like really cheeky. He talks to the camera all the time. DC, which is always releasing movies that are exactly like some Marvel movie. And don't comic book nerds get at me and tell me that the comics came out first. I don't care. But anyway, in the cinematic universe, like, DC is always, it seems like, trying to bite the rhyme of the Marvel universe. And I believe the movie was The Flash. But not the new one with the retro Batman. But I think there was another earlier version of The Flash where they were talking to the camera. Does that sound right to you?

A movie. These are all movies. Not that there was a TV show that I liked called The Flash in the, like, 90s or 80s, but not that.

No, these are all, the whole quiz is you and I trying to describe movies.

Okay, so there was a version of The Flash before this newest one with Ezra Klein, that's the New York Times podcaster, with Ezra Miller.

Oh, right, yeah.

There'd be a real amazing swap of personalities and approaches to the world if you swapped Ezra Klein for Ezra Miller. It's not The Flash.

I looked. I knew I was wrong there. I was leaking confidence. confidence the flash is the new one but the i remember this now i just couldn't conjure it here here's your clue you described this and i don't think correctly but you described this as dc's answer to superman dc's answer to superman great guy do they have a character

named great guy great guy strong i thought superman was strong fella superman is not dc Superman as Marvel? Well, this is your own quote. I don't know what to tell you about that, buddy. Okay, that is actually a great quote. It's DC's answer to Superman is a great quote. I'm going to name the show today DC's answer to Superman. That, my friends... Okay, so...

I don't even remember if we stopped and laughed at how funny that observation is.

That's amazing. I wish God was here to see this. i don't know what what is it it was shazam shazam and now as soon as i see that i'm like yes of

course and i stand by my description having not seen it but remember seeing the trailers and and studying them i remember like shazam had a deadpool vibe to it i could be wrong for folks who've seen the movie but i feel like it was supposed to be really funny and he's talking

to the camera all the time and there's like a shazam 2 that i was seeing posters for in the airport recently so obviously the first one i don't know if it's a movie or a tv version but the same guy it's a guy who's playing shazam in the movie that i remember i never knew who that guy was that's not the guy from ed is it no that's somebody else but anyway they apparently did well

enough that they made another one dc really should create its own version of superman at some point they should i'm telling you it's a missed opportunity i'm telling you there's no money in that um it's simply too bad that was a combination of multiple drops from the program okay how about this one this is a quote from you and i don't on first blush without the hint i don't have any idea of this one here's you describing a movie i think of that more as a movie about two people destroying a home and the mouse is the mcguffin but i've never seen it oh i know what it is the great mouse hunt starring nathan lane um the hint is luke and andrew considered this movie for a christmas commentary movie and it is the great mouse hunt where's my how do i keep losing my bell

what is wrong with me you've been we've been through a lot it's been a lot yeah what people haven't heard is the 11 times that the broadcast recording shut down because of my uh internet

problems out here yeah i don't want to get into too much detail but that's right because i'm not losing track this is the show where you started by saying we might have technical times and holy... holy hell have we had erotic technical times that was me trying to do i found it to be erotic but

just so here let me say one thing to allay the listeners fears we're no longer in danger of losing our battery life it already happened and we remedied it eventually so like that's just a thread that just will have been dropped in the show like luke and andrew are worried about the computer dying now they're not but they're mad at each other for some reason what the hell has

happened i am in here my shirt is soaking wet it's never that hot in here i don't know why it's so Well, I know it's so hot, but it's hotter than it was yesterday.

Andrew, it's hot because the climate has been naturally heating and cooling for many, many billions of years.

Well, you know what's cool, Luke? What's cool is that you just got that one right. Absolutely.

And everything I know about that movie is just from the trailer where it just seems like Nathan Lane and whoever else is in it with him is just trying to get this mouse. And they're just destroying the home while trying to get the mouse. That's why I think of it as a movie where a house gets blown up, even though I've never seen the movie.

Okay, Luke, I'm really excited about this next one because I'm pretty sure this is a quote from me describing a movie. And I'm pretty sure I know what movie I was talking about because I think I would still describe it this way to this day. My only problem is I'm stuck between two movies that I would describe this way. But, okay, here's me trying to describe a movie. That's a movie about moving, right? It begins with them moving into a brand new place and eating pizza on the floor or eating some sort of food on the wooden floor.

A movie about moving where they eat pizza on the floor.

Well, here's the deal.

That's not what the movie is about. Is this like DC's take on Batman?

It's like Marvel's take on Spider-Man. Yeah, exactly. Sorry. No, I mean, the funny thing about this is, no, this is not at all what the movie is about. The movie is not about eating takeout on the floor. It's just how the movie begins. And, of course, so I'll give you a hint. If I'm right about this, this is a horror movie. This is a scary horror movie. But I only remember the nice parts of horror movies. I'm not even joking here. This sounds like I'm doing some sort of extra bit or something. But I'm dead serious. When I'm in a place, like at the Eagles around Halloween time, the bartender will put on old classic 1970s and 80s slasher flicks where you see the teens at camp or maybe young adults hanging out at a cabin together. And I love the nonviolent part so much. It always evokes summertime to me. I can practically smell the citronella. I can feel the fireflies. Everything's so great, but it sucks because I know that something bad is going to happen. And I don't care about the slasher part. I just wish we could watch people have a good time at a cabin. And so that's basically what I'm doing here. This is not a slasher flick. I don't believe. But what I think I'm describing here is a movie that becomes quite terrifying. But what I like is the beginning when they move into a new house and they have some takeout on the floor. Is it The Shining? I don't think it's The Shining. Here's the clue. And again, I don't know. I'm pretty sure I know what movie this is. Here's the hint. She gets possessed or there's something with the baby, says Luke. Well, that leads me to believe it's Rosemary's baby. That's what I think. Clicking over in Doodly-Doo. Because is it Sissy Spacek or somebody like that in Rosemary's Baby and she and her husband move into a new place?

I think it's, oh my goodness gracious, I think it is Mia Farrow maybe?

Ah, that would make more sense. Yes, Mia Farrow. Yeah, exactly. I get those guys confused sometimes.

Well, Sissy Spacek was in Carrie, I believe, right? Yeah, that's for sure. So I could see how they're adjacent in your mind. Do you want to know the journey I went on with Mia Farrow? who was like, okay, had short hair, was in a relationship with Frank Sinatra, is Ronan Farrow's mother.

How did you get, even how you had to get to the name? Had to get to the name Mia Farrow,

has credibly accused Woody Allen of horrible things. My brain went to every single thing about Mia Farrow except her name.

When you got there, I wouldn't even have known that you were struggling there. It seemed like a blink of an eye to me.

Thank God the line cut out again. It bought me some time. Listeners, there was an 11-minute gap there that we had just edited out of me trying to think of Mia Farrow's name.

I love this game so much because we're still, even in the exercise of doing this, we're adding more embarrassing quotes to the pile of quotes as we continue to try to talk about these movies.

It's beautiful. It's like they say that there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine, not perfect. This is like a perpetual content machine. as we're talking about old content we made we're creating new content so it looks like including

a bonus question there might be 15 of these things so let's maybe do one or two more and then save the rest for tomorrow if that's okay with you absolutely i love this i don't want any of this to go to waste here's a quote. It looks like you and I both waited on this one. Luke quote. I think I have some. It's going to be good. It's going to be real handsome. I think I have a sense of what it is. It's a bunch of people in a location where something's going down. Andrew. Yeah, I assume some sort of clue-like closed box mystery. Oh, oh. Oh, I know what it is. I'll bet you I know. What do you think it is? I think it's Knives Out. That's what I think it is. Let's go to the hint number one. Neither Luke nor Andrew had seen this movie at the time of the recording. I have now seen it. I believe we are talking about Lights Out. Let's click over to the answer. What did I say? Lights Out. I meant Knives Out. You know what I meant. Come on, Lauren. Add it to next year's quiz. Indeed it is. Yay. Lights Out got it right. It's Knives Out.

So you saw the movie. Did you like it?

I did like it. Now, it was really highly praised, so it was one of those films that I saw a lot of people talking about how wonderful it was. I also saw it in an airplane, which is a good place to see a movie like that. I'm a captive audience, so I thought it was good. Did you end up seeing it?

No, not yet, but I might watch it soon. I'm living in the middle of nowhere in a hovel with a functioning television and access to on-demand movies.

I don't remember the details of it, so it's unfair for me to say this. I remember at the end just being like, okay, that was fun, and I can't remember the name of the – I can't remember the name of the main actor in it, the woman who everything kind of revolves around. Oh, really? She's really famous. I think it's Mia Farrow. No, I'm just joking. No, a young woman. But anyway, I loved the performances. Daniel Craig's really good. Like, just – there's a lot good about it. But when the – when everything is sort of revealed, you're just like –

Is it Ana de Armas?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I Googled that, by the way.

Do not know that off the top of my head.

But I just, the logic didn't quite hold up. I'm like, wait, you sure about that? That's why? Yeah, like the knives were in. Like, you sure about that? That's why? Yeah, there were a lot of knives in.

They're like, and that's why these knives are out, but they're all just carefully placed in the knife block. And you're like, these knives are in.

These knives are in. So if you can, that would also be a good show title, Knives In. So if you can kind of like, if you can sort of forgive some of the, what I feel to be somewhat logical fallacies of the end, it's good. Having said that, the entire point of a movie like this is the conclusion. It's a mystery, right? And so it was a little bit of a letdown. But having said that, it was a well-made, enjoyable romp, you know.

That's always the hard part is it's so, you know, we talked about this in relation to a number of shows. It's easy to generate a lot of intrigue and a lot of, like, loose ends mysteriously. it's really hard to tie them back up together at the end in a way that's satisfying it's so hard to do and it's almost like the better they are at creating the tension and like intriguing you as the viewer the more let down you can be when it doesn't it's like oh really like even like Gone Girl which people loved and you know I thought it was a perfectly fine

movie but like it somehow

was just kind of like I was so perplexed and then it was just like it It felt like it didn't quite resolve. I don't know. It's just like the more that if you're going to really if you're going to if you're going to fly me to the moon, like DC's version of the of the comic book, Icarus or the karmic book, Icarus, if you're going to get me that I'm a karmic book nerd, karmic book guy, worst episode ever.

But here's here's where I'm somebody I feel exactly how you describe Gone Girl is how I feel about it, too. You're like, oh, I really enjoyed it. Got to the end, I'm like, oh, oh, okay, you know. Yet, here's where I'm hypocritical, because I really like the genre of, like, noir and neo-noir, and those things famously do not tie up at the end. But the thing is, they're so complicated that you don't even know whether or not they, like, Inherent Vice, I think, is actually sort of a play on that. And again, that's the Don, no, not Don DeMello. Who wrote Inherent Vice? I can think of his name.

Charlie DeMello, the TikTok stars.

But Inherent Vice, which when P.T. Anderson turned into a film

I think it's Thomas Pynchon, right?

Pynchon, yeah Or Pynchon

You know what's funny? Last time I said Pynchon and you said Pynchon Oh really? And this time I said Pynchon and you said Pynchon Oh really? Oh, I don't remember And we were talking about Inherent Vice

Anyway, I love Inherent Vice, but it's also like I kind of knew going in, like, it's just a vibe Like, just vibe along with it It's gonna get, like, needlessly complicated But it doesn't matter, because you're just kind of hanging out with these characters as they go through this kind of trippy landscape of you know old la or whatever it was southern california and like and same with you go back to like i think the big sleep i think famously

even carver himself um uh yeah raymond no chandler raymond chandler okay um chandler himself even said yeah yeah that doesn't uh that that it doesn't all like it it makes sense at the end but it kind of doesn't matter because you've gone and all like there's uh there's got to be a line between the movies that are so they seem like they're presented like they're so tightly buttoned up but then don't deliver on it versus the ones that are so needlessly wormy and complicated at

the end you're just like well all right but you're but you're right too it's like it's just a question of do you buy into the vibes or not yeah like i'll buy into the vibe of a bogey bacall film because i just want to see what they're wearing i want to hear how they're talking i'm not really it's not a big deal to me if they you know if the letters of transit really make sense about getting out of casablanca right i know is hold on we're supposed to be done with the show saying they're done with me doing film criticism but I buy into that vibe and then there's other movies more modern movies where I'm just looking like you said I'm looking for like does everything perfectly line up in terms of this mystery being solved when I'm not subjecting older movies to that same

sort of scrutiny and it's not even just older though because Inherent Vice is not necessarily an old movie it's just a different genre and it's just a different like I think the expectations are set within the setup of what the mystery is you know uh but anyway i've blabbed on that too long i want to get one more in here today and then we'll do the rest tomorrow um this is a quote from luke christian burbank uh describing a movie quote full-on camp that was really the story of a guy who kind of got this ability to do super things but he didn't really know how to control it so he's always

flying into walls well this is the thing i don't believe that's a movie full-on camp that was

really the story of a guy who got this ability to do super things we did oh is it like the the that

old tv show from the 70s about this that's what i think i'm referring to that sounds like a thing

i would say a related to yeah you're right this is a tv show the greatest american hero because the hint is also a quote from luke i mean i'm just totally boxed out of this one lauren uh quote And believe it or not, he's always walking on air. So, yeah, great American hero.

Greatest American hero. Andrew, this is the denouement of you being an important part of TBTL as the questions hue more closely to my lived experience.

How do you say denouement?

I don't. Hold on. I have a pronouncer. I'm looking through my papers. Andrew, if you could see my workspace right now, It would send you into some sort of anaphylactic situation with all of the, like, swapping out of computers and gear and, like, I've got all these old paperwork from previous shows. I've got these binoculars so I can birdwatch. Oh, yeah. I've got maybe on tomorrow's summer game I'll tell you about becoming a binocular bro.

Yeah, because that could go a couple of different ways. So I'm hoping that you're using it responsibly.

Out here it goes in a good direction, based on just my access to other humans, which is limited. That is, that's a key to you moving out there. Maybe on tomorrow's, on tomorrow's summer game, I'll expand on binocular bro culture.

Thank you, baby.

All right, we are going to thank some daily donors here. These wonderful, generous people are supporting the program. I'm keeping TBTL in business, and we are extremely, extremely grateful for people like Brian Wilcoxon, who is in Tallahassee, Florida.

Nice. Thank you, Brian. It's so nice to see these familiar names, people who have donated year in and year out. I know we say this all the time, and we're still referring back to it, but this was a very special and especially important fundraiser this year to keep tbtl going while we went independent it was a really huge leap of faith and the faith we had was in these listeners so thank you i don't know why i'm i know we all know what we're doing here but sometimes i'm just like overwhelmed with the reality of it and i just want to state it

again for the record how grateful we are i totally have that experience it's like you kind of just you most days are just thinking oh i gotta get the show recorded and posted and do my tbtl duties And then every once in a while you remember just how, like when you see, you know, articles about other podcast funding sources struggling, Andrew. Is that true? How's the industry new? Even more appreciative for the Brian Wilcoxons of the world and also the Katie Withams of the world. Katie is in Chicago, Illinois. Thank you, Katie. Love it. Meg Curtis is in Melrose, Massachusetts. Oh, you twisted. I did. You thought I was going to say Melrose Place. I was already picturing living in the

television program, Melrose Place. I don't know what a Melrose actually

looks like. Is there no Melrose, California? Is it just a totally made-up location? I guess it was the name of the apartment building.

Melrose is a neighborhood. And then, yeah, I think Melrose Place was the apartment building. But I don't know what a Melrose the plant actually looks like. Oh, it's a plant? Don't you think? Melrose? Doesn't Melrose seem like... I guess I always assumed. Hold on.

Use your binoculars.

I am

Let's see You stop at Google There's a place called Melrose The Melrose Grill In Renton, Washington

I mean, I'm just seeing All I see are just references Basically to the Melrose Oh, let's see here Melrose flower Yeah, there's a Melrose flower The Melrose, Andrew Are you sure? Are you sure about that? Yeah, it's what I asked you to get me Last Valentine's Day And I didn't You did not get me any Thank you very much, Meg Also thanks to Marion Benner in maple valley washington that was also a a darren star wait an aaron spelling i mixed up my darren stars and my aaron spellings i don't know who a darren star is darren star was a creator of a lot of real kind i think he's the creator of sex in the city oh just like that and before that i think a lot of other stuff like that that you might say is a little um not like well not pulpy i guess that's more like the the detective stuff but just kind of like like a melrose place which This was an Aaron Spelling project, not a Darren Star project.

Luke, this is how scrambled my brain is right now. As you're reading these names, I'm sort of like kind of marking them on a list so that we know when we thank the listeners in case they didn't hear this. I mean, I would find it hard to believe that somebody wouldn't have listened this far into this episode, given the strong start of me asking you more and more questions about your USB situation on your computer. Yeah, this is TB Kill's answer to podcasting. But as you're talking, I'm looking to cross Darren Star's name off the list, and I can't find it. Why is Darren Starr not donating? Well, that is why Marion Benner had to stand up.

Darren Starr. I was making sure Darren Starr was still with us. He is. Actually, he's a young 62 years old. American writer, director, and producer of film and television. Best known for creating the television. Oh, Andrew. I get a point. He did create Melrose Place. Wait, he must have co-created it with Aaron Spelling. Yeah, I thought that was for sure an Aaron Spelling joint. Yeah, because, well, 90210 would have been because Donna was Aaron Spelling's actual daughter, Tori Spelling. So at Sex and the City, Emily in Paris, that's another. Boy, Darren Star, he really has a certain kind of vibe really dialed in. Those are all very, very popular programs.

The show was created by Darren Star for Fox and executive produced by Aaron Spelling for Spelling Television.

There you go. Well, good on him for, let's see. I'm looking at, what did he create? What has you gasping, my friend?

I gasped because I just thought of a really fun idea for a summer game where it's the spelling bee, but it's a quiz all about Aaron's spelling and Tori's spelling and that, and we can call it the spelling bee.

I like it. The Putnam County, the Beverly Hills County spelling bee. I don't know. I was trying to make a Putnam County spelling bee joke. Have I mentioned it's very hot here, Andrew? It's hot. Does that come up on the program?

How many USB outputs do you have?

I don't know, but I just bought a $50 USB-C expander, Andrew. If that doesn't work, I'm done. I'm literally retiring from podcasting. Buy me a new brain. Because I don't want to sound like I'm complaining at all, but it's just very funny that we've managed to pick. And we picked this weeks ago. We circled some dates on the calendar. We said, let's record some summer games. And we have great games this year. Amazing contributions from the listeners. And it just so happens that many of them have now been recorded when it is so actually temperature hot that the equipment for this is no longer working. We don't work in a candle shop, by the way.

No, we don't.

This is not—you should—there are a few instances of the industry or the business of podcasting being affected by the temperature outside, but this is one of those days. So we couldn't be done, though, before thanking Burton Cooley of Lakeville, Minnesota. Thank you very much. and then Natasha Donovan up there in the Bay City, Bellingham, Washington.

Oh, yeah. Now, you didn't know Natasha when you were up in Bellingham, did you? Did you guys ever?

I don't remember meeting Natasha while I was up there. But, Natasha, if you're ever having a barbecue or some kind of hangout in Bellingham, let me know because I'm always looking for an excuse to get back up there. It's just an absolutely beautiful part of the world.

This is the part where we ask the donors to invite us to their homes and serve us food.

All we ask, Andrew, is they give us all of their time, money, and also social capital.

And also... And also...

Hey, Tosh, if you could also make sure that the grill has been cleaned between the meat burgers and my fake meat burgers, because I'm not trying to really co-mingle that whole thing. That would be really great.

Let me ask you a quick question, then we'll get out of here. What do you think is...

One of my favorite phrases for that's sort of a fun way of saying having a drink with someone. Because I almost said it there a second ago. It's not something I say on the show very often, by the way. Tippling? No, I like that, though. Bending your elbow. That's exactly it. Yes, I used to work with a woman named- Wow, that's pretty good.

Two guesses.

Kathy Ives was a woman I worked with at New Hampshire Public Radio. And I remember she said something, I don't know if we're going to a conference or whatever, but she said, oh, yeah, you should go. You can, you know, tip an elbow, no, bend an elbow with somebody. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's a great phrase. Bend an elbow. Have a drink.

I was so proud that I got in two guesses. And then I realized that could indicate that you and I have bent too many elbows together over the last 15 years.

Although I do feel like that's one that has not come up all that much on the show.

But it is a great phrase. It is. It is. There are, other than it being poison and just absolutely terrible for you, the lore around alcohol and bars and things like that, I got to say, it's top notch.

Yeah, that is true. Although, I mean, I used to, there was a time when I couldn't imagine myself not smoking for similar reasons, you know? Interesting. And now, you know, I don't smoke and it's less romantic. Every now and then I'll see somebody smoking on the big screen and I'm just like, oh man, that looks good.

You should listen to the, I know you're not as up on This American Life these days probably as I am, but they had an episode called I Just Can't Quit You, Baby. And most of the episode is Sean Cole Who I think is an unbelievably talented radio producer

He came to one of Genevieve's parties once

He is trying to quit smoking And he's been like a very very serious smoker For his whole adult life And the whole episode I mean much of the episode was him reading The Alan Carr How to Quit Smoking the Easyway book And then trying It's just great Would recommend

He's never done anything bad I mean he may have done things that are like evil Or sex But, I mean, as far as his radio work is concerned, he's a huge fan.

Exactly, and this is in keeping with that. It's a really good episode. I'd recommend it. All right. I'd say listen to it to kind of wash the taste of today's TBTL out of your mouth.

No, this is a great quiz. You and I maybe aren't on our best, but the quiz is so much fun. I can't wait to come back to it.

The quiz, what, proctors? Are we proctoring the quiz? I feel like I'm doing a bad job at guessing on the quiz, but that has nothing to do with Lauren.

No, and also just seeing our own brilliant words come back to us is wonderful.

Yeah, I like that. dc's answer to superman yeah i mean that's honestly that might be one of my all timers

i just don't know if we realized in the moment how ridiculous i bet we didn't all right thanks

for listening everybody we'll be back here on monday so uh you'll have all weekend to think about bad movie descriptions that we've done so we'll see you then for more imaginary radio in the meantime take care of yourselves have a great weekend and please remember no mountain too tall

bye bye i mean thank you all i'm broken i'm broken Power out.