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sometimes you end up getting where you want to go and then find out when you get there that you don't want to be where you're at and then you feel like this is all just a waste of time but just remember if you never got there then you'd always be wanting to get there and then you don't know you don't want to be there until you get there so sometimes you just got to go where you don't want to go just know that that's not where you want to be okay that was Super freaking awesome dinner, the rest of your day and stuff.

TBTL!

You know, I think about this, and what about this internet thing? Do you know anything about that?

What is this guy trying to do? Is this supposed to be what Bozo's thinking or saying? What guy? It's Bozo. Bozo did it. Bozo did what? Bozo did the dub. He's doing the dub. Bozo is not a guy. Chips and dips, chips and dips. I love Chips and Dips.

Can you imagine doing a podcast for 10 and a half, 11 years? I'd feel terrible.

Okay, goodbye. Say goodbye, Derek.

Goodbye. I hope we same place again very now.

His brain is wrong.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Wednesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Whoa, whoa. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. This is probably a party that you don't want to attend, but you're locked in. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it's just like, it's just beautiful. It is. It's just a spectacular early fall day. I was sitting out in the yard this morning watching various flocks of birds. They were a little far away. I couldn't quite tell if they were Canada geese or maybe something a little smaller, but they were flying in that V formation that we're all so familiar with. And they were flying north, and I was sort of curious. Then there was other different kinds of birds that were heading in their formation, and they were going south. And I was just Googling, why do I see birds flying north in the winter? It's not winter, but that was the search result that it returned. Why do I see birds flying north in winter? Because, of course, we think about them as flying south. I felt very judged by the Internet's response. This was the first result. Why do I see birds flying north in winter? Here's the answer from Quora.com. It's called migration. Many birds fly to warm places in the winter and to cooler places in the summer for their nesting season. I think Quora.com was just trying to be informative. but the the sentence it's called migration just felt a little i don't know judgy or something i'm also in a fragile place this morning because i tried a new uh workout system today the world needs to see the madness that is my upper torso okay spend some quality time with juice and toya working on a little um dumbbell workout i wish i hadn't done that i don't know if i will ever be able to move my legs in the same fashion again. So, luckily, we don't need the movement of my legs to bring you episode 4056 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. We received some information this week from a very unlikely source that we may have been doing it wrong when it comes to how we are sleeping, or I should say, what part of the mattress we are sleeping on. Please go to sleep. This podcast is a sleep aid for many people, and so it seems relevant that we would talk about sleeping and how to do it maybe the best. We'll also talk to this guy. Longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace, their power. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. I love that new drop for me. Thank you. It does seem, it makes you seem kind of, kind of, I don't know, imposing, but in a cool way.

Yeah, definitely. There's a strength in that drop that I appreciate. It's a base C, base engine C. I love it. Hey, I wanted to just tell you here, I want to plant the seed of an idea of a conversation we can have down the line because I promised you before the show, I know that you have a lot of stuff to talk about here at the top.

Not a bit interesting, but there's a lot of it.

I feel like often I just goof and spoof at the top of the show, try to tank the show as soon as we're out of the gate, which is a really bad instinct on my part. But you're talking about that Quora answer that you stumbled on It's called Migration. Jeez, gosh. Comma dingbat. Right? Yeah. But I think there's a conversation to have, and maybe it's not here. the top of the show and maybe there's some writing about it that we can actually turn this into a top story down the line but i think luke there's a conversation to have and i can't believe i'm going to say these words i think google is starting to suck huh yeah okay i'm going to say that again more confidently and then you drop the beat the base okay ready okay yep hey luke yeah i think google wait hold on yeah i think google's starting to suck i don't know i kind of liked it better the first way um but do you have any idea what i'm talking about here like are you disappointed in google lately i'm not getting results hmm no you're not getting the results that you've been looking for in the bedroom i can't no that's a different note um don't ruin the note don't

sully the note um this is a different see i have been having issues with google but for a different reason which is you can't log in no well that's believe me that's been a long running issue but uh no it has to do more with the when i am searching for something and this has to do with search engine this has to do with the the economy of the internet i think but sometimes when i just want to search for something in google let's say i want to search for you know why do birds fly north in the winter uh it won't so i'll type that into the search search bar on my phone And instead of searching it And Google giving me the results It's taking me to some website about it Like it's not listing things It's hard to explain But it's like I feel like there are certain websites That have paid Google Or I'm on some weird spoofed Search function of Google Where it's not really going Like here are all the things that Here are all the various places you could learn about this Or find out about this or buy this or whatever It's taking me to one specific actual website And I don't think that's an accident Are you on Gorgle?

Are you using Gorgle?

Oh, shit. Is that the problem?

Honestly, I'm thinking about maybe using Gorgle instead. I never, like, Google is always just obviously, maybe not always, but, you know, for 15 years, has been just the standard in search results. I mean, no offense to Bing. No offense to Andrew. Is DuckDuckGo a browser or a search engine?

I might switch to, you joke, you joke about. It's Bing, baby. You joke about we have a lot of Bing-related audio, Andrew.

Yeah, Bing used to sponsor TBTL.

God, that was a long time ago.

I'm not kidding, though.

No, DuckDuckGo is very interesting to me, honestly, because...

Now, is that a browser or a search engine, though? I think that's more of a browser, right?

Wait, what's the difference?

You know, like a browser is like your Safari or your Chrome or what have you, and Google is the search engine. And now, of course, Google owns Chrome, so it's all—

I guess I didn't think of that, and maybe that's part of the issue I'm running into. Maybe I'm trying to search in Chrome or something. But DuckDuckGo, if I understand right, is a search engine, but one that does not allow so much cookification of your stuff. They do not let people follow you the way that Google does and the way that all of our search behavior and things are all getting kind of integrated into the same thing. DuckDuckGo, their claim to fame is they protect your privacy.

Yes, and boy, they refer to themselves as a privacy company, not a piracy company, an internet privacy company with a bunch of different products, one of which is a search engine. And I still can't tell if they have their own standalone browser or not. I feel like I used to know that. But one thing about Google that that's a long tailed duck, by the way, in case you're curious. One thing about Google is maybe a month ago it asked me, hey, do you want to turn on the AI function on Google so that instead of like just giving you a bunch of like links to various sites that could answer your question, we can kind of scan the Internet and give you an AI answer at the top. And I think what they're doing there is trying to go directly after Wikipedia, because so often when you're looking for something and you just go to the first link, which is Wikipedia, and it gives you the background on something. And this is sort of cutting out that middleman. But that's one thing. But that's not even what I think the example that I'm thinking of was on my phone. Maybe it was last night or the night before. I think I wanted to look at what the score was in the previous night's baseball game, like one of the, you know, one of the postseason games. Yeah. Yeah. And like I couldn't like it took me to what the time of tonight's game was. Oh, no, no. You know, I was looking up the record. I was looking up the record of one of the teams and it wouldn't just say like this. It's such a simple thing. What was the Rangers record this year? Right. But it just led me to all of these like, well, they're playing tomorrow night. Oh, would you like to make a Ranger soup? Like, no, I don't want to make a Ranger soup. Like, just tell me what their goddamn record is. I did go to like to the AL. you know the american league standings or something and then like kind of suss it out that way it just seemed like google this is basic i think that google is getting too complicated or trying to do too much and thus being less useful at least to me i don't know keep an eye on the space everybody go about your googling days let me know if any of this rings true to you it seems

something's up with google um do you think that it's there's got to be a monetary component right Whenever anything gets harder related to really anything, I assume it's somebody trying to make more money off of something. Why would it be getting worse?

Well, I think it's related. I think it's a competition thing. I think they're trying to be more than just a go-between. Between you, a user who has a question, and then a website, which is the final destination, I think Google is trying to say, no, no, I don't have to just be like the transport that gets you to the final destination, but maybe I can be your final destination. and then right like at the beginning of the show we heard that guy on tiktok who i should probably shout out that tiktoker uh rodney d norman hell yeah from our archives neither one of us really know the origin of that tiktok tape but i guess i sent it to you you told me that was probably

during the pandemic and i was probably a few drinks in it says uh i was a few drinks into

the pandemic anyway if it says tiktok i assume it comes from you but anyway um you know me like Like, we're getting to the end of our journey, and the end of the journey is Google, and I don't want to be there. I want to be on Wikipedia.

Every time, by the way, you say Google, I think of Jenna Maroney trying to – not because I think you're doing a bad job, but she says now he's Google. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the internet is Fleek or something. It is my favorite. I feel like us talking – I don't know much about business is what I think she starts by. Here, let's take a listen to this.

I don't know a lot about business, but he did an internet, and now the computers like him, and Wall Street is Google. That's so great.

And Wall Street is Google. That's something that I have been seeing a lot on my TikTok feed that I'm very here for, which are just super cuts of the various characters from 30 Rock. Just like Jenna Maroney's best lines. like Jesus like I want you to know that I turned down sex with Jeffrey Epstein three times out of

five just like just like is it really Epstein though like where she was making Epstein no it

was Weinstein I think it was Weinstein actually I mean still dark it's still you know you know probably something probably something I don't know if they'd write that same joke in 2023 knowing what they know now but like just it'll be or Dr. Spaceman or Alec Baldwin or any of the characters

It's usually Mickey Rourke. She has Genevieve wants to make a super cut of all of the Jenna references to Mickey Rourke. Have you ever noticed that? I don't think I have. You know what Mickey Rourke once described as blank or as Mickey Rourke once told me as he threw me over the side of a boat or what have you. Let me see if I can find any of them. But it's just

an absolute delight and also there are either i just my brain is so bad at this point that i've forgotten entire episodes of uh of 30 rock or there are actually like there there are a decent amount of episodes that i haven't seen at some point which means i need to re-watch i need to start on episode one and just really commit to watching everything they make because there are jokes on there that i don't remember hearing the first time okay it's also the type of thing where

it's a dense show it's like both a casual show that you can watch you don't have to pay attention to super closely but you can revisit it a lot because there's so many jokes fly by so quickly but i did find here this is 90 seconds we don't have to play the whole thing this will probably

be pretty blue it'll probably be the best part of the show let's be honest remember let me see here

remember 14 minutes ago when i told you i wasn't going to interrupt the show today and just let

you talk about your stuff there i believe you said you were going to lay back at the top of the show that you said layout and then i said i'm not a baseball player is layout a term from basketball like i'm gonna lay out what does that mean no lay out well lay up is a term in golf when you're not well lay up is lay up is obviously a basketball term an easy shot to lay up in golf is i could try to hit it over this creek all the way to the green but if i miss it's going to be in the creek so i'm going to intentionally lay up i'm going to hit it short of the creek so that i have a better shot so that i don't end up you know sort of making it worse on myself that's laying up Laying out, I think, is a term in gymnastics and maybe even in a full layout.

Well, my Google generative AI says that it is a gymnastics thing. Also, I think I might be thinking, and this isn't how I meant to use it, but I think I might have heard it during baseball broadcasts when somebody lays out to catch, like, to feel the ball.

Oh, sure, yeah, definitely, definitely somebody that he laid out for a catch.

But I think I meant, like, yeah, I think you're right. I meant, like, kind of, like, lay back. Anyway, here, let's take a listen to Jenna. this is according to the Gorgles this is all of Jenna's Mickey Rourke references

What? Your new vibe is a double-edged sword, much like the kind Mickey Rourke tried to kill me with.

Oh, everybody born before Jesus is in hell, they went straight to hell.

I'm going to have to reinvent you, break you down completely and build you up from scratch, just like Mickey Rourke did to me sexually. Did you see last night's ratings? The only show I've ever been on that got a 10-2 is when Mickey Rourke threw me onto the field during the Super Bowl. Simple trip to Ikea. No, Liz, don't test it, especially this early in our relationship. It's like when Mickey Rourke tested his catapult on me. Wow. I was almost listening. Where are you going? You never take my advice. Miss Barone. Oh. Nice try, Hazel. But you made the same mistake Mickey Rourke made on that catamaran. You didn't kill me when you had the chance.

We need to talk about what you did.

Well, you know what they say, boys. If you can't stand the heat, get off of Mickey Rourke's sex grill. J-Mo, these are for Mickey Rourke. No, Tracy, put them down.

They're covered in spiders. I was right, Andrew.

That was the best part of the show. It's all downhill from there.

If you can't take the heat, get out of Mickey Rourke's sex grill.

That show, I seriously did not remember most of those jokes. Meaning either I either I can watch it again and it's new to me or I literally somehow missed those episodes, which I feel like it was appointment television for me. Like I I would I would tell you that I never missed an episode like I watched all of them, you know, when they aired on like network television. Wasn't that a wild time to be alive? I know on NBC television and watching it.

That's right. And, you know, Luke, you made the same mistake Mickey Rourke made on that catamaran. I didn't kill you when I had the chance.

You didn't kill me when you had the chance.

All right, I'm gonna know it is lay out and know who's gonna kill me juice and Toya are these your new Personal fitness instructors. They are they're my new they're on YouTube So it's parasocial so far, but um they I got some some dumbbells. I feel Which came first the name dumbbells or the derogatory term dumbbell? I just can't get used to saying or called you today. It's called migration dumbbell. Yeah, exactly I struggle with that term dumbbell Because it just seems like a weird name For a piece of exercise equipment But that's just because I've always heard dumbbell As a pejorative But I got some of these There was some sort of sale On fitness equipment on Amazon Which Becca sent me Which I felt like was a little bit of a hint Like hey great deals on exercise equipment today Honey But I did go ahead and get some uh some of those kind of um dumbbells that are uh adjustable so you know instead of having a whole rack of different of different weights this is just it goes up to 50 pounds and down to five pounds and it's kind of these like these these small small dumbbells that fit into these these discs and you can kind of click around it's actually oh yeah like made by a company called core and i gotta tell you it's very they're actually quite quite easy to use I'm very I'm happy with them so far but I got they come with a rack I had to put the rack together by the way they delivered the dumbbells to my neighbor Bob's house so the first the first workout I got was carrying a hundred pounds of dumbbell from my neighbor's house over to my house like well think about having delivered dumbbells like who I know that short straw So because they were like, your delivery is here. And I was looking around. I was like, not that I've seen. And then I was like, I bet you it's at Bob's, which it is. I got to get an address sign because there is all kinds of confusion about like if where things should be delivered for me. But anyway, all that is to say, I got these, I got these dumbbells and I figured, well, no time like the present. And I because the thing about for me with jogging is jogging is my preferred exercise, but it like the studies show that your body, unless you're doing a lot of like hills and and speed work and you're doing muscle confusion and breaking up your run, what happens is your body sort of adjusts to going on a three to five mile jog pretty quickly. like it kind of figures out how to conserve calories so i like the serotonin release that i get or whatever it is the gabapentin i i feel good after a jog i enjoy that part of it i don't know physically really if it's doing a lot for me at this point so i'm trying to add a little something

else my muscles are confused why i don't use them there's a whole other kind of muscle that's an

obvious joke but so I anyway I this morning I was like I wonder

YouTube's got to have like a half hour dumbbell workout, beginners, that was the search term. And I ended up on some page for Juice and Toya. They are two very fit people who are doing a dumbbell workout in a very empty apartment. Like it feels like maybe the apartment was rented, is rented on a monthly basis just for them to record these videos in. It's kind of one of those apartments that's like, looks like it could be on the outskirts of Houston it's new construction it's for people that have landed their first kind of real job but maybe still have a lot of student debt but want to have you know what feels like a kind of a nicer place a newer construction kind of a thing and so I set up my laptop in here and I tried to do the workout with them I will tell you that I was they were like and if you're having trouble always just do the modified version with Toya and i was like way ahead of you like yeah were you doing were you doing the drop squats here

your pace a little quicker or slow it down if you need to so this is all done at your own pace exactly so if you need a little warm-up just to kind of warm your body up before we get started

otherwise skip the warm-up i should have probably should have warmed up yeah that's why your muscles

are confused confused well i'll tell you what squats and lunches are no joke like i don't know why for like basically what happens is once every three years I decide that I'm going to get strong and I start by doing some workout that involves squats and lunges and then I can't walk for a week and then I never do it again and then over the course of the years I forget squats and lunges don't look like much is happening but boy oh boy then they're you know so I'm doing this workout with them it's very clever what they do though Andrew I have to say and this is the only downside is that when it went to commercial it was for some kind of gun product that I didn't love and I don't even think that's about juice and toya i don't put that on them but i think you know when they're just doing the google ads or whatever they just get whatever google is is supplying to them but um like it's very clever because a lot of the exercise you have to be on the floor and then you can't see the laptop but it counts you down it goes beep beep beep at five seconds of whatever workout you know whatever particular movement you're on i mean i just it i have to say it was a very uh a very effective system it was totally free uh it was i mean i'm i already can feel my legs and particularly my inner thighs are killing me right now like do you ever do that where you do go kind of exercise for the first time in a while and you know that you are gonna really really be in pain the next day are they like jelly cut yes they actually that's that's the feeling that i'm having like i'm sitting right now while i do the show which is not typical i usually try to stand but it's because my legs felt a little and then I tried to get on the treadmill after I did this this thing I then thought well let me do a like a little like a one mile kind of cool down jog let me let me get a little bit more exercise and my legs felt seriously like jello on the treadmill like I was like oh I gotta this is I could collapse from this right now because I don't my legs feel like they have they don't have the strength to exactly hold me I mean some of these things that they're doing on this video like um i think one was called like one's like a like a plank with renegade taps or something push up with renegade taps so here's what you're supposed to do you're supposed to do a push-up holding the dumbbell as you're like you know your the dumbbell is on the ground and you do a push-up and then you push yourself when you're at the top you then lift one of your arms so now you're on one arm and you're lifting the dumbbell back And then you put it down, you do another push-up, and then you lift the other dumbbell. And as I told Becca, not today, Satab, because it auto-corrected. And then I meant to say, not today, Satan. Like, there is no way I can do that. So I was just, like, on my knees, like, doing, I was modifying the modified one.

Anyway. Did we lose you? What happened there?

That was Walt checking in, letting me know he's going to Home Depot. Or as he says, Home Depot.

oh oh you know i heard somebody talking you got in my head about the whole u-dub thing the other day like because i heard somebody saying where i want to be dub and i and i still can't quite hear the difference in how i say it versus other people

but i guess there's a little bit i think you've been saying it i think you've been saying it

correctly of late emphasis on the first syllable as they say right and so no second second you dub oh okay oh that's what i was just like people go where'd you go i went to the uw

it's kind of it's kind of like it's sort of it's almost like it's not on either one of them but

it's definitely not on the u it's gotta be on one though that's the thing i used to work with a woman named jolie who is an amazing producer and way smarter than me and also i used to work with jolie by the way oh that's right you worked with jolie too like i have so much respect for her you worked with her day-to-day i worked with her day-to-day just joking i know you worked day-to-day Day to day. No, I worked with her on a different show. You worked on with her on a show.

called day to day and anyway i remember when i met her and by the way there is something specific i want to say here there is a real craft in a specific aspect of radio producing that i actually pride myself at and i love it when other people are good at it which is being able to phonetically spell out like a word or a name that's hard to pronounce like you including emphasis like all caps on the on the syllable that should be emphasized and everything and jolie is really good at that but i remember when i asked her how to say her name i said what do you emphasize and she said you don't emphasize either syllable and it's like that's not how you you have to emphasize one syllable or another really because is it like how would you say jello let's leave i want to leave her name out of it because i'm already putting her on front street let's say that somebody told you the word jello doesn't have neither a syllable is emphasized. How do you say it? Perfect. You know, like jello. What about this? Let me try to do this.

Jello. I guess it's

on the O there, huh? No, no. It is on the jell.

Jello. It was on the jell? Jello. Is it that I say it louder or that I say I hold it longer? What is the

You emphasize it. Yeah, a little bit.

I'm trying to think here. So let me just try to say jello. I'm going to try to say jello with Equal emphasis on both syllables Okay, I'm really going to try this Jello

No, it was the emphasis on the jello Do this, do this Try emphasizing the second syllable of jello Jello See, that sounds weird, right?

That's how Jeff the Drunk on Stern Show comes

Is that true?

Is that him when he answers the phone? Well, he, you know Carrie ordered me a cameo of Jeff the Drunk For my 40th birthday And I believe he started by Gallo Oh that's how he started I think that's kind of his catchphrase Although he stopped calling in the show Because they didn't let him on when Bruce Springsteen was there Probably for the best

I'm just learning about this But I think I side with the people who kept him out

You don't think that they should have interrupted The one on one with Bruce Springsteen To let Jeff the drunk ask a question Gallo He's as close as they'll get to having Obama on the show right um so uh i i'm anyway back to juice and toya really quickly um it is amazing to me all this content that's out there on the internet like there would have been i remember when one of my many other attempts at getting uh you know fit in a certain way was to do that p90x thing but i remember um you know it was expensive it was i don't know a few hundred bucks or something and so i bit torrented it and it took like three days i mean i think i was probably like six i don't know how many discs like six dvds worth of tony horton and p90x i remember it taking multiple days to download on from whatever bit torrenting site i was using and then being kind of glitchy and then but this is what you had to do unless you were going to spring for the however much money p90x was and then of course i i tried to not do this today but what i did in in that case was did the day one of p90x and was in so much discomfort for the next three to four days i mean talking like almost couldn't sit upright because my abs were so in so much pain from trying to use them for once that then i never did it again and to this day i've never i've done exactly one episode of p90x so i was trying to wasn't there wasn't there an aspect of that too

where you had to take a photo of yourself shirtless and hang it like somewhere public or somewhere where you would see it a lot?

You know, maybe, I think that might have been part of it.

I remember that part of it that you were like.

Yeah, because that was, Romo and I were doing that. And again, I think we, she might have done two days. I didn't go back into that basement for weeks.

You did not. Maybe months.

Not even to check on the hot water heater. No, I was not about getting re-traumatized by that video series. But it's just amazing that in this day and age, I got up this morning and I was like, yeah, I want to try to do a workout with those things. And then, boom, the Internet just like, yeah, here you go. And it's actually very well produced and and helpful. And I was like, OK, this is cool. I'm a Juice and Toya guy now.

Yeah. I mean, the world has changed a lot since you were trying to do P90X in your basement. For real. Like you were like, you know, there's so much stuff you were you were talking about. I'm sort of fascinated by this idea that you brought up about the space that Juice and Toya are working out in.

Yeah, what do you make of that? You see what I'm talking about?

Yeah, it's just like an empty, probably like, you know, old warehouse space somewhere. But there's so many, like, people who are looking to make their videos. Like, it might just be a space that rents out for people to make all kinds of stuff. You know what I mean? I'm sure cities across the country just have spaces that you can rent if you want to make your YouTube videos.

what have you yes i'm sure that that's part of in fact like i said i don't know why i'm why i'm zeroing in on houston but i feel like there has got to be an entire apartment complex somewhere that has been built just for the juices and toyas of the world to use to make their content creation and that somehow that's the economy that we now live in is nobody goes to the office anymore but you do go to the a modern apartment building to make your various videos that will then be streamed on the internet that somebody who is wants to sell some kind of concealed carry equipment will then buy an ad that will then get hoovered up into the google ad system which will then play while i'm here exercising before i come over to this microphone andrew and turn this on and try to

talk to the people we talk to hi i'm brian from brian's bump stocks um that's my imitation of a gun related advertisement you know i bet it's pretty close it's not um it's probably though not like apartment buildings i don't know why i'm drilling down on this but i mean i'm sure it's convert like old office spaces and stuff i mean that what is what's going begging in our culture

right now right yes they're doing an experiment in san francisco um i think it's i want to say it's eight office buildings that are being converted into residential and it's kind of being looked at as like a template of like if it works then it means that this might be doable in other cities because san francisco is probably in right now i think in america struggling the most in terms of its downtown office space that was incredibly expensive and is now pretty much is very very under underused i when i was flying back the other day and the guy who had flown out to new york and back to get his miles he does commercial real estate and he was telling me that like the eyes of the commercial real estate world have turned to san francisco to see how these projects turn out because if they work then what we'll probably see is a lot of downtown office space being converted into um into residences but it's also it's not as easy as you would think there's a great 99 invisible episode about this just basically like first of all except for the extreme outer parts of office buildings there's no natural light like you got the windows but then you go into the interior of an office building there's no light so who's gonna get that apartment right right and also things that are silly like plumbing and electrical it's like these things were built to do one kind of thing and it's not as easy as like well we have not enough housing and we have too much empty uh office building so make that housing it's like actually a open question of if that's even a thing that if it would be easier to literally raise the

building rebuild it as as apartments you know yeah it is interesting or to reimagine um what living looks like i mean because you could turn these into like kind of i mean you think about like loft apartments and you know like some of the most prized real estate in the city might be like an old converted loft that would be beautiful with like you know tall you know exposed brick and super high ceilings and everything um but that doesn't apply to a lot of more modern workspaces like you say like in the center of that thing there's not you can't just install a pipe like you can't just install a poo pipe for a toilet in the middle of the building you know if it was that's literally what i'm doing here well you're okay you're it's a it's a more scaled down um prospect what you're doing but anyway but nope it's just a pipe we poop in you look at mcmenemans and like what they do now it's a very different thing but like oh well we're gonna rent this this um room to stay in but it's gonna be almost like more of a of a bed and breakfast where i use a you know sort of a shared bathroom or what have you anyway that's a very very

complicated topic but speaking of this home improvement project andrew because it's been Almost 12 minutes since I've talked about it I definitely saw last Night a glint in my dad's eye That indicated If he could trade Sons he would In other words if he could

Just at large Or somebody in particular

A specific young man Who's named Jaden Who's been working on the electrical stuff here Jaden's the best Dude Jaden is amazing he really is The work he's doing is just absolutely top quality he's really fast like he's it's just been i mean he's just been making this progress but it's like my dad so it's he's he's you know redoing the wiring in the house the wiring is knob and tube which is not very safe and also there were there were not very many outlets uh there was i put in like recessed lighting now you know like can lighting and all that there's just a lot of electrical to do and he is working on this project and he is just flying through it and his the final product is amazing it's like the it's he was working very neatly all the wires are like my dad who's really good at this stuff says i could never do any of that my dad is has such a crush on this kid it's amazing like last night we my dad and i were busy watching the ken burns documentary about the buffalo if there's ever been a more white guy in their late 60s kind of Content it's Ken Burns tackling The topic of the American Buffalo But And then do they mention the nickel Oh it comes up Andrew oh they Address it oh it comes up oh they Address it But Narrated by Peter Coyote Now by the way he's the new he's the new

Sam Waterston oh I don't know who that is

He was Peter Coyote was an actor a fairly Successful actor but I think he's big on voice Over and I I feel like all a lot of those ken burns things used to be sam waterston you know from like law and order and i'll fly away and everything and um and and this was not him this was peter coyote i don't know why i needed to clarify that but we were watching that and jaden's just like literally sprinting around the house carrying a ladder going up and down the ladder drilling holes running running wire and leaving behind just like the most perfect kind of works workmanship artisan you know just the guy knows his stuff and my dad high-fived me probably eight times last night looking at various j boxes and and uh you know three gang switches and old work boxes these are all terms i'm now learning because i have to go to home depot and buy them and um he like what i what i what i observed last night was my dad my dad interacting with a young person who's doing something that speaks to my dad's brain you know what doesn't speak to my dad's brain this you and me me up here in this weird room talking to this microphone to my friend andy man um aka meat aka the ace of the airy like this makes no sense to him my life makes no sense to him he just doesn't understand he loves me he's such a sweet loving person but it's not this is this is not something that he connects with you know what he connects with a really really nicely run line of Romex oh yeah that's and it was a and and he just like I you know I was cooking dinner oh by the way spaghetti squash where have you been all my life do you mess with the spaghetti squash I've heard

of it is that's not one that you would zoodle right that's zucchini so no I don't think I've

messed with spaghetti squash um it's it's not you don't have to zoodle it because it's actually i'm also getting some kind of delivery here or uh the mormons would like to talk to me i don't know somebody just showed up at the house which is a very rare occurrence um in an unplanned sort of way no spaghetti squash you don't have to andrew because it's like spaghetti what you do is you basically kind of roast it and then you just break it up with a fork and as you run the fork through it after it's been cooked it just turns into strands that are exactly like spaghetti noodles and taste very similar so what I did yesterday was you cut it in half you take out the seeds and stuff and then you you you rub it down with some olive oil you put some cherry tomatoes in the middle and other you know herbs and spices and whatever you want and then you throw in like some ricotta or some of any kind of like a soft cheese will do and then you throw a little parmesan on that and then you roast it and then it's just this bowl of delicious um like it tastes exactly like you're eating spaghetti but it's it's not a noodle what is the consistency when you bite into it it's like you it really is kind of like you cooked up a imagine you cooked up a bowl of spaghetti noodles and then for some reason you put them into a squash and then you were eating them out of there like you know you're putting a lot of consistency feels noodley yes that's why it's called spaghetti squash it tastes it tastes and feels to me again it helped that it had a half a pound of cheese on it but it tasted and and and the the toothiness of it if you will was very similar to spaghetti noodles so i don't know if people low carb anymore but if you're i just saw it online and thought it looked interesting and i thought it'd be good for my dad to you know he's maybe have a little less meat in his life so um i made but while i was working away on those i could just hear outside the kitchen just my dad fanboying out at jayden's various work because jayden was still there and they they had to have like a long discussion about like how we're moving all these switches around like one of the things was there are these outdoor lights there's very steep steps here as i've mentioned because that's my move always try i always try to live somewhere that will be not practical when i'm older or after i've done a juice and toya workout and um so there are some lights for those stairs but the switch for those lights was like midway in the living room of the house like you had to it was the made no sense that's by the way everything in this house like there's just stuff like why does that why is that there why would that not be over like there's just so much stuff that is just not intuitive or I think probably the people you know that were doing the work just wanted to do whatever was the easiest thing and that must have been where the light switch where the wire was so they're like okay you just have to walk into the living room to turn the outside lights on you know so that's getting there's all this stuff is getting moved but then there's all this

sort of strategy because it's like if you're going to run this power you know if you're going to power it with this thing then is that overloading that circuit and can you go from there to there it's all this stuff i don't understand at all but to hear the two of them just like problem solve this whole thing it just I heard in my dad's voice true happiness for the

first time in maybe years well not happiness but probably like a sense of pride maybe pride maybe

admiration not something that he I think necessarily feels it's funny because we'll be listening to the public radio we'll listen to OPB here and we'll just be working away on something and I will come on the radio and he is unfazed and I find that kind of interesting like I don't know what I want him I don't know what I want his response to be but it seems to make absolutely no impression on him that as we're working away and listening to various coverage of Israel it's like hey it's Luke Burbank from LiveWire uh next week we're going to be doing this and it's like he literally doesn't it doesn't even stop his his whatever he's doing to go hey that's you on the radio we just continue on and I think what an interesting experience to have your son's voice coming out of this radio box and just doesn't even doesn't even make a blip on your radar

Especially since you often end them by saying, do you love me now, daddy?

Yes.

Exactly. You think that would get a response. Your promos just get more and more bizarre and weird as you try to get your dad's attention.

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Nice. That's a very familiar name. I think I follow... Sean, did we just start following each other on Instagram? Did we just become best friends? Best friends.

I think so, maybe. Dunkirk, Maryland. have you seen dunkirk the movie oh hell yeah i saw that in the theater i think that's so interesting it makes me want to see it because you have i generally um i think maybe with the exception of like uh twin peaks or something i i think you and i to some degree have similar tastes like if you're gonna go see a movie i'm like that's probably a movie worth seeing i good i wouldn't i wouldn't have figured you for a dunkirk fan for some reason i don't know why it just because

you're not as i understand a huge christopher nolan head and you're also not a like um you're

not a Band of Brothers guy, or what's the other? What are all those Tom Hanks movies where they're always storming Omaha Beach?

Right, right. Toy Story 3. My Own Private Benjamin. My Own Private Ryan.

Shaving Ryan's Privates.

A great lusty lady. No, well it turns out when Christopher Nolan makes movies about history and bombs, I'm into it. I really liked Oppenheimer. Dunkirk was just like, it's just a really intense viewing experience. I mean, I've heard it's an incredible film. Yeah, and I saw it in the theater. I don't think I saw it in IMAX, although I'm not sure it was a while back. But it's just a really well-done movie.

What I should do here? Oh, Projector. Projector and wear my, I have those Apple Max, AirPod Max now, the big wrap-around-your-ear deals. No, I don't know.

What are you talking about? These are like headphones for viewing?

They're the kind you wear, but they're made by Apple. That's like Apple's answer to the Bose stuff. You know how a lot of the AirPod stuff has been smaller. It's been, you know, it fits in your ear. It's wireless. They've got the AirPod Pros that have noise canceling. And now the new thing, it's not even that new anymore, is what they call the AirPod Max, which is a confusing name because it looks nothing like an AirPod. It looks like the kind of over-the-ear, kind of larger headphones that I know you tend to wear.

Yeah, like when I'm jogging out onto the basketball court. Exactly, to lay back.

To lay out. To lay back and lay by.

You have those, so you would maybe watch a movie with headphones on. I've been messing around with that a little bit. You know I love having my headphones on. I like an immersive experience with my podcast. Even if I'm the only one in the house.

If I'm listening to something as just mundane as the Levitard show, no offense, Levitard show, but you know, not some sort of audio spectacular, I still prefer to have my headphones on as I'm listening. And one thing I started messing around with is my TV down here. I can, you know, I can send Bluetooth signals back and forth. And so I did, I can't remember what it was, whether it was a TV show or a movie, but I was sort of puttering around, sort of one eye on the TV with the audio from the TV going directly into my ear holes. I like it.

Yeah. I mowed the lawn yesterday, and I had those big old headphones on, and I was listening to my dream pop music. And, boy, I'll tell you, one Corona in, washed out on the AirPod Maxes, breezing around on a sunny afternoon while my dad falls further in love with Jaden the Electrical Kid. It's quite an afternoon. Jane Lowry can relate. Jane Lowry's in Alexandria, Virginia. That's what I just described to you is exactly how Jane Lowry spent yesterday afternoon as well, Andrew.

Nice. I'm glad to hear it. Also, I just want to say I think I didn't realize I'm going to have to do this. You were talking about one final mowing of your lawn. I think I need to do that, too. I've been watching like since the summer heat ended and the rains come back. I'm like, oh, wow, there's really some grass growing pretty tall in some areas. But I'm like, well, I guess that's a job for next spring. Because at a certain point this summer, I put away my lawn mowing equipment and I said, well, we'll see you next March. I guess I do have to pull it out, though, for one final mowing. I don't think I did that last year. It seems weird to me. It seems perverse.

It's very satisfying, Andrew, because it is lush. Yeah. It is like the grass is so green right now that I'm just like, as I'm talking to you, I'm just staring at. I don't actually have very much grass anymore because there's a big hill that it's impossible. Yeah, low T being what it is. But what grass remains here, what hasn't been taken up with various construction expansions and things, it looks like Pebble Beach right now. It's very lush and green, so it's satisfying. I would recommend it.

I'm going to get a laser helmet for my lawn next summer.

Well, you could get a laser robot for it. That's a thing. They've got Roombas for your lawn, and they are apparently pretty good. Oh, look at that. Wow. I don't want that because I enjoy very much the process. Although, one of these days, Andrew, I am going to probably hurt myself on that lawnmower. I did a wheelie yesterday that was not intended, right? Did you pop the clutch? What I realized was I have to, going up some parts of the yard, but I have to really lean forward to make sure that the front wheels don't come off the ground and roll back on me after I've been so dismissive of ATV-related injuries. I'm about to have a lawnmower-related injury myself.

Yeah, no kidding. You were just drafted.

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All right. This is a weird headline, of course, by way of the New York Post. Of course it was from the New York Post. But it says, Amanda Knox, yes, that Amanda Knox, comma, husband's peculiar bedroom habit horrifies the internet. Quote, you've been doing it wrong. This is such a clickbaity thing. So clickbaity because they know that the Amanda Knox thing is always going to get a click. Of course, Amanda Knox was, you know where she went, Andrew? The U-dub. She was a U-dub student. The U-dub. Yeah, Amanda Knox, of course, was a student at the University of Washington doing an exchange program in Italy. A very horrific murder went down in the place she was living, and somehow she got pinned for it, which is pretty wild, really, because if you've watched the documentary or just if you were even following it at the time, I mean, it was a real stretch to think that this is something that she would have committed. Eventually, the Supreme Court of Italy acquitted her, and so she came back to Seattle, and now she's kind of, it must be, I mean, I've interviewed her before, by the way. She's a lovely person, and her husband, who I will say has a unique...

aesthetic is also a very lovely person like i found them both to be really charming and pleasant to

be around but it must describe her as as down to earth because whenever i like sort of i don't follow a lot of the amanda knox stuff but maybe because of just the the spectacle of that trial and all of the international intrigue around her that she was a young attractive woman and all these things like it was just such a media whirlwind and now that everything has sort of died down like she's sort of like yeah i'm still kind of like i can see somebody just like going like totally hermit like i'm not gonna talk to any reporters i'm not gonna do anything or um the other i mean i know she did write a book but i mean somebody could also just like let the sort of i'm gonna say notoriety go to their head and like kind of spin out of control but instead she sort of just seems like oh yeah i'm open i'm up here on social media but she just sort of seems like kind of a kind of a down-to-earth person who likes to goof around and be friendly that's my general vibe but again I don't follow her shit that closely

I think that that's a totally accurate description based on my one afternoon talking to her and her husband and also just being aware of her being in the world I think it's probably got to be a very strange thing to sort of have all this notoriety for something that you would never in a million years want to be part of and then what do you do with that do you turn that into your how you make your living going forward do you try to do something totally unrelated or do you do what i think it seems more like she's doing which is you kind of you just kind of you know um you're open about it it's not the it's it's not the only thing that you talk about for instance sometimes you talk about what side of the bed you sleep on but because you're amanda knox and you say this on whatever twitter or x or something it gets a bunch of attention and basically her contention is that she and her husband switch sides of the bed every night And she says, this is what we should all be doing. We should not be, we should not have our quote unquote sides because for a couple of reasons. One, it's better for the mattress. So the mattress, like for instance, if Becca and I are sleeping in like, let's say my bed or her bed, whatever side I'm on is getting, that side of the mattress is really getting the raw end of the deal. Yeah. That one's getting, it's like, oh, how did I end up the Luke side of this mattress?

Well, you're sleeping with your dumbbells too, which is. Well, that's it.

And also Juice and Toya are invited.

it's a lot it's a party over there man sounds like becca's sleeping with the dumbbell if you know what i'm talking about that's you know what you're talking about but that was a that was a

weird thing for me to say and i hate why i said it but no uh so the amanda knocks this point and presumably her husband agrees because it sounds like this is what they're doing you switch sides each night because it it is better for the mattress and also it's better for your body because like particularly if you spoon or anything like if you lie on your side maybe it's one of those things where you kind of cuddle at some point before you fall asleep my my experience in life and i don't want to bring people too far into this part of my world because honestly it's probably uh not that interesting but most people i know if you are in the kind of relationship where there is a certain amount of cuddling maybe that happens before going to sleep each night there's always the like hey we're cuddling up we're in bed we love each other and then there's like okay but now we need to do some sleeping now we're going to go to our corners because this is i don't know very many people who sleep through the night in a cuddling position it's generally not that comfortable but they're saying if you switch sides i don't know

really you don't think people spoon and then just fall asleep spooning like i mean i do you know i don't know i don't hear well here's where there's truth in what you're saying at least in my own personal experiences what you said that seemed weird to me was like okay there's a decision to be made like okay the the cuddling or spooning ends and now it's time to go to sleep and we go to our separate corners that doesn't that doesn't ring true in my life however i will say that if you do fall asleep and you're spooning i don't usually wake up spooning so at some point during the sleep cycle i guess there's a bit of a separation but less of a sort of like um intentional

decision yeah see i for me it's an intentional decision because i like my arm falls asleep like i'm you know i i enjoy the experience of of you know cuddling but i also it's not like i'm going to be able to fall asleep and have a good long restful night so at some point i have been Historically in my life Throughout various relationships and such Have been like Okay I'm gonna now roll over And actually get into a position That is comfortable for me To fall asleep That's just But that's just me

We done with the cuddling part of the meeting Are we ready for the clown part?

Yes Andrew Please go to sleep

It's weird when you edit that By just taking out the U It doesn't really edit it It doesn't It doesn't even barely Please go to sleep Like if you're gonna leave that much in Here's the problem

let's let's try to focus on the least interesting part of of the topic of are we sleeping on the right side of the bed or the correct side of the bed this new system that i have this new audio system that i have i tried to edit it in that program instead of dragging it into garage Now if I would have cut it out

in garage band when samuel l jackson says the f word i cut that f word out there's still that space there's that half of a second which now is blank and that's what our ears are trained to hear as a you know edited out swear the system that i'm using that i used it collapses that space that's why it sounds off and that's why i won't use it again for this kind of thing because you're right it's weird it should be go the and then there should be a half of a second or a quarter of a second blank spot like that or even that i can't make it but instead it thinks it's being helpful when you edit something in the middle of something by collapsing the you know the tooth the the the space there's no blank space that's that's what taylor said i knew you were going to do that i knew you were going to do that you just keep hitting the base i'll keep hitting this can we do a song okay do your thing again wait do it again sorry no it's going well so far it's ready Wait, why isn't my bass sound working? Hold on, do it again

Okay, you ready? Yes Am I taking the lead here?

Yeah Two, three, four

Great Meow That's why I don't know why my system

Of all of the time I wasn't No, I really wasn't trying to mess with you But I was just wondering why Of all of the times When my little system could get kind of weird on me It was when we were trying to do some sort of freestyling Okay, listen I put this story on the show sheet today And you said, you actually have some thoughts on this. What's your deal?

Okay, so first of all, this is one of those stories where I felt like I had a lot to talk about before I even read anything but the headline. Then I'm reading the story. The mattress thing I find fascinating and right. That's a really good point. It's like rotating your tires almost. You should also do that every night. I do. I bring the tires to bed. Also, okay, here are a couple of thoughts I have. Number one, I think technology makes this so much more doable in 2023 than it has been historically, because apparently, you know, again, this is not really a news story. I think you said the New York Post wrote it up. And so it's like mostly just people reacting online. I can't believe she said that. And then we call it news. But we're not calling it news. We're calling it TBTL Top Stories. And I have a lot to say about it. A lot of people were saying, well, what about all your stuff on the bedside table? Which is still true to a degree. And I'm sure various, you know, different people have different needs. You know, some people might have various face creams that they put on or or or medicine. So maybe you still have like your end table is still sort of your thing. But like back in the day, you would have your alarm clock set to your time to wake up in the morning. But now that's on a cell phone. You might have the books you're reading there. But chances are you're probably I'm often reading a book on my phone when I go to bed. The fact that our phones have taken over so much of the stuff that would be on our bed stands, except for the medications and cold creams, I think makes it very doable if you wanted to do this.

I love the idea of you just slathering your face in ponds before you go to bed, putting your cold cream on.

But dipping my phone into the tub and then using it kind of like a big fat tongue depressor as I rub it all over my face. one thing that I don't think Amanda brought up or that this article brought up is also the effect on the mind I think that you know people say Luke people come up to me all the time and they say you know you're supposed to rearrange your furniture every few years because it's good for the brain right kind of like you wear these sort of patterns into your brain but if you have to think about where your couch is like it sort of is keeps the brain strong I don't know if it's right or not but I like to think it is it's interesting anyway to consider and i i find the story relevant specifically because it was i swear not more than two weeks ago genevieve went to bed before me and was totally out like a light by the time i came to bed and this has not happened often i never thought this would happen to me uh genevieve had just in her sleep sort of rolled over onto my usual side of the bed right and so i was like oh okay instead of waking her up i just spicy yeah um anyway so i just crawled into her side of the bed and fell asleep there and it did i was like oh that's that's kind of weird it feels different over here and then i fell asleep and i had a dream that we were camping and um you know i'm not much of a camper like for me the roughest i go camping is sleeping on the other side of the bed um but i do think it's because my brain was sort of like i'm sleeping in an unusual place like i'm in my own home in my own bed but I think my brain really was like a little bit confused as to where I was and so it was sort of working itself out in in my dreams a little bit and so it thought I was camping or whatever and I just sort of think that like there might be something I don't know mental health is probably the wrong word but it might it might be kind of interesting

see how your brain processes not sleeping in the same position on the same side of the bed every single night it seems brain muscle confusion brain muscle confusion yeah i i find it to be kind of fascinating i would totally do this maybe not every night leaves go for it hell no of course

not that's funny because also becca would never go for it i don't really care like sometimes we'll be at a airbnb or a hotel and i i don't even remember what my quote-unquote side is but i'll be like lying on one side of the bed she'll go you know that's my side you mean like when you're traveling or something yeah traveling to me it's like a bit I don't like I forget it's this bed isn't pointed in the same direction as like my bed or your bed like I don't even remember what my quote-unquote side is but it's very she's very aware of what my side is and her side is

what Genevieve definitely needs is a night table what do you call it a night stand is that what

we call the table bed bed stand night tables deserve a quiet night when we were in um oh i

think we were in portland for our secret meeting luke does anybody know that we're leaving american public media yet uh veves and i drove down from seattle to portland and she spent uh one night there before you and me and and sklarov had our meeting and um it was a smaller hotel room and there was only one nightstand and I usually, like, I don't give a shit, like, I would usually just give it to her but this one time I was like, I need to wake up in the morning, I need my phone, like, kind of on this nightstand for an alarm, and she's like, yeah but she was really kind of put out not at me, but that the hotel room did not have a nightstand on her side of the table so that's a biggie for her, like, I think that she does, like, things, she's sort of old-fashioned in a certain way, like, let's set up, let's set up camp here, when she I think you're like this too, if she goes to hotel room even just for one night she unpacks everything and puts it all in the drawers like I will I will I will get dressed out of my suitcase for like a week on end if I need to I don't put

stuff in the drawers but what I do is I hang stuff because usually it's like I have to maybe I'm filming something or like so I'll put my suit and the shirts and they'll be all wrinkly but I'll hang them there just so they can kind of like maybe start to unwrinkle and so they're kind of ready to be ironed like i will yeah and i get my dop kit out i take one of the towels not like a full-on large towel you dry yourself with but like the in-between size towel and i put it on the um the countertop in the in the bathroom near the sink so i spread a towel out and then i put my toiletries out on that towel put my toothbrush all my stuff one time i was staying at some fancy hotel and they did that for me and now i love that so i just do it for myself when i'm at a normal hotel And I get it all I get that all set up I get my stuff hung up But as far as like my running shorts And my socks and things that stays in the Suitcase for me but I do I Hear what you're saying about that or I can Appreciate where V is going with this of like hey let's Make this particularly if you're going to be there for A few days it's like well might as well Make this a comfortable experience where you Know things are going in their proper place But yeah I have this whole thing Going here at this house so I have that mattress a king mattress from eight sleep that we used to do ads for I don't know how the guys got it upstairs in this house because it's a tiny little staircase but they did somehow and the the bedroom that I'm in it's mostly this bed it's like it's it's a small bedroom it's a big bed it's kind of silly but I love it Andrew this is the deal now I can't even get to quote unquote my side of the bed is against the wall you can't even walk to it because it's against the wall you know what i mean i have to crawl over the bed like a seven-year-old child no i love it though it's my little nook so now here's the deal it's also there's no heat in the house right there's i have a heater in my room there's a heater in the room my dad sleeps in and at night i go and i turn the heater on and the room gets all cozy and then i climb on this big bed i climb over to my side and i get under my big like feather like duvet whatever on my like clean like i wash the sheets and you know change the bedding every sunday get in the bed and look at tick tock on my phone and look at the boats go down the river and i love it for something very infantilizing about it that i I can't walk to my side of the bed that I have to crawl to it.

No, I like, I love everything that you said. It's cozy, though.

I'm really into it for some reason.

The reason I said, oh, no, was because I thought, like, if you're cohabitating, that's a problem, right? Because if the person.

Oh, Becca's not coming out here. You can't. Okay. There's no part of it.

Because, you know, that is a problem if you're like, if you're a couple that stays to your sides of the bed. No, that would be an issue. And one person, you have to crawl over them to go to bed. That would be a real problem. But, yeah, what you're describing, it sounds like, yeah, if you had a little book or something.

It feels like I'm a kid and I'm in a fort because this room is teeny tiny. So it feels like I'm on a boat or something. I can't quite explain it. It reminds me of when we used to take family road trips and my dad would take out the back seat of the Ford Econoline van that we had. And he would put like this platform in there that would have all the camping stuff underneath it. And then he would put a futon mattress, a huge futon, like a king size futon mattress or whatever the biggest kind we could fit in there on top of this wood. So there was the back like third of the van was a giant bed and we loved it when we were kids we'd all be i mean it was so unsafe we'd all be splayed out on this bed when i finally got a walkman i'd be listening to jesus jones right

here right now whoa wait wait wait your parent by the way i have tape of you by the way this isn't why i stopped you have tape of you actually getting into bed every night years old every day

i walk out into the street i see things as a nine damn it i i tried to i tried to come off of that

Get off of there now.

Come off of there. Here it is. A bed? That's not. It's a bouncy bounce. It's a bouncy bounce. That's what I feel like.

I feel like I'm getting on my bouncy bounce.

What did you just say when I cut you off? Oh, damn. Jesus Jones right here, right now. What did your parents think about you listening to a musician called Jesus Jones?

They did not know, my friend, because I had headphones on. My parents would have been very scandalized by that. And I'm not even joking. I actually was, we make this joke so much, but A, when did Schubert Dipp come out? And who, what, what, that's E-L- That's EMF, right? EMF, that's You're Unbelievable.

I get them confused all the time, too, because I feel like those were two hits. Right here, right now, Jesus Jones and You're Unbelievable by EMF. I feel like they were both banging up the radio dial at the same time.

I think I might have even had either both of those CDs or like some combo, or maybe they had a tape. I don't remember the device I was listening on, but I remember having headphones, and I remember our van pulling into the Arco that's not very far from where you and Avivs used to live when you were in the Roosevelt neighborhood. There was, if you were to go over Green Lake, actually where you do your pop-up, I think.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, on 65th. Okay, yeah.

There's that Arco. Arco had cheap gas.

We were cheap people. It's a Circle K now, by the way, not to. Oh, does it still have gas? Nothing gold can stay, Ponyboy. Yeah, no, it still has gas, yeah

That was an Arco when I was a kid And I remember pulling into the Arco And we're beginning the trip My dad's gassing up the Ford And I'm listening to Jesus Jones right here, right now And my head says, I'm lying on this futon bed And I'm just like, and it's the beginning of the vacation You know what I mean? It's just like, all it is is fun Stretching out in front of us And I got Jesus Jones in my ears Man, that was the top 10 moment of my life That I remember 40 years later

I think I proved that we are right. I think both of those were 1991, which makes sense because I think I was in eighth grade when those things were very popular.

Yeah, I think I was probably a freshman or was about to become a freshman too, which was also, you know, big and auspicious moment for me. But anyway, so you're saying, Andrew, that you would be open to this, but it sounds like it's a non-starter because Vives is probably not going to be open to it. So you are going to continue to – your brain is going to continue to shrivel in your head as you sleep on the same side of your bed night after night.

And my limb, well, I shouldn't say this on the show. You ever wake up with numb arms?

Yes, and this is what I'm saying.

Is this something that's happening to you more? But I mean, sometimes it's not the arm I'm sleeping on. That's the concerning thing.

When I sleep at Becca's house, I always have, it's something about the mattress. The mattress that I use, no numb arms, Andrew, never. Eight Sleep would never do me like that. Plus I have a Tempur-Pedic deal that I bought that I put on top of it. So it's like, it's really soft and very like plush. That's probably also why it feels cozy to me. I'm one of those people that likes a very soft mattress. I know some people like a firmer mattress. That's why mattress soft never really made it the way mattress firmed it, I guess. But like when I stay at Becca's house, I end up with, now I don't know if my arms have gone to sleep because of something about the mattress or because it's a smaller mattress, it's a queen size, or because there is cuddling, whereas when it's me here, it's just me and my teddy bear. I don't know what goes on, but, like, I have woken up recently with that kind of, like, numbness in my arm. It's not a particularly pleasant experience. And to Amanda Knox's point, supposedly if you alternate your side of the bed, that will happen less because you're not wearing out one side of your body spooning from the same side.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man. It's not from a female.

See, the problem with me mowing my lawn yesterday, Andrew, is I can't mow my lawn today.

God, you want to... Oh, I have a job for you. I should probably mow Bob's lawn. He'd love it. Oh, that'd be nice. Except is Bob, like, kind of very particular about the lines? No.

No, he's not. he's such a chill dude i love him he mowed my lawn once i think because it was about to go to seed i think it was more like oh i don't like this is a fire hazard but that was very very kind of him

i owe him a lawn mowing at some point i have two things that i'd like to share with you they are both related and they are both from listeners the first one is an email that i got from kendra and this is um related to sort of an ongoing topic here that all started when you talked about doing some reno how much time i'm saving doing some reno on your home about that on the show at all and finding some very old receipts from 1939 i think i brought this up yesterday as well uh in the walls of your house almost like a little uh the receipts are coming from inside the walls exactly and then we heard from a listener who um i think her uncle ended up finding a photo of of her grandfather a framed photo from the 1920s and a home they grew up in and we just got this email from kendra who heard that story and says i can't beat i can't beat angie's story that's the person who wrote in yesterday oh yeah that photo was amazing when i was a kid my parents replaced the roof of their old house which their old house is the name of the show their old house which was built in something like 1906 in ballard apparently the roof was in really rough shape because they basically had to take the entire thing off and redo it completely. When the builders had taken the entire roof off, they found hidden love letters in the eaves of the building. I believe they were from the 1920s. Luke, check this out. The former lady of the house was married to a fisherman who would go away in Alaska for long intervals. That's so Ballard. That is extremely Ballard. And she was having an affair with a different fisherman who would apparently be in seattle while her husband was away i don't recall many details what a fun sexy time for you but one that stands out is that in the letters from her lover a lot of them began dear booger i guess booger meant something different back in those days question mark this whole thing was quite exciting for everyone when the letters were discovered i was around eight years old so i couldn't think of anything more mysterious and romantic at the time i haven't thought about those letters in years i think my parents still have them and hearing about other people's old house adventures makes me want to revisit those letters i love the show what you do is so important power out that is from listener kendra that's some that's some juicy ballard gossip from 100 years ago i love it so i just love how seattle and specifically that's unbelievably ballard going old letters of the fisherman husband going out to alaska and then having an affair with well another fisherman because it's both of them are named sven i promise you no i have another this is a voice i i you know i'd hate to do jay like this this is a slightly less romantic find but

i think this is fun too take a listen to this hey dummies uh this is listener jay from portland i was just listening to the episode in which uh luke was describing the receipts he found in the wall of his house uh and uh almost exactly a year ago my partner and i got our first house It's like a 1973 ranch-style house. There were only a couple people who owned it before us, so it hadn't really been updated very much. And the first thing we did when we moved in was pull out all of the flooring and all of the baseboards, which were really jacked up. And when we approached one little closet, which had the only swath of, like, burgundy shag carpet in the entire house that was clearly original from the 70s, we found a original Star Wars Ben Kenobi trading card and yeah it's not worth anything we looked it up on eBay immediately but it's really neat and it's just a little thing that we keep that we thought was really cool and I'm going to send Andrew a picture of it yeah that's all also shout out with Lauren we ran into each other at a pumpkin patch this weekend I love that so much I have that photo

I think I'll probably maybe use the photo of that Ben Kenobi card as the show pick today.

I love looking it up, too. I would have done the exact same thing. Of course, yeah. Is this some super valuable thing? But I know there's probably 8 million of them.

You know what else Jay sent in as I'm looking for this photo here? Last week, Jay sent in this note via the text line. said i just found out that my fiancee sometimes listens to tbtl slow down because quote the world is moving too fast for his brain do you remember when um it's jay says it's horrifying and it sounds like you all pounded five shots before hitting the mic especially the way you said plumber now do you remember people used to do this back in the day they would they would listen to us in slow mode and then send us in funny little this is a little bit distorted i think just because of the technology here but this is us not drunk but sounding drunk

Also knowing when to pull back and like let a professional handle the rest of it. But I'm just hoping that I'm hoping to become more.

I'm going to continue this until we get to the plumber part, which is the funnier part. But it's got real like I love you, man. Vibe. Yeah, I love you, man.

You, Andrew, once I move up to the other house, everybody should try to be more like me. I will say this. I will take care of the plumbing by myself. I'm going to hire a plumber to clean up my Gmail.

We both sound like we are going to fall asleep at any moment, drunkenly. I know, I know. I'm a bit of a mush mouth anyway, so it sounds even more so for me. But anyway, thanks for sending all that, Jay.

And I guess what is the fast one like we've been doing? We've had cocaine for breakfast?

You know, it's funny. I think because it probably speeds up the – oh, I guess it doesn't speed up the tenor of the voices. I don't know if anybody's messed around with that. I mean, for me – I don't like that. I talk too quickly anyway. I remember somebody one time saying like when me and Hannah were hosting TBTL years and years ago, just saying that like it already sounded like we were on double speed.

We every once in a while, I'll just be listening to a podcast and I'll bump, you know, my phone and it'll go to one point two five. And it will take me a while to figure out what's going on, because I'll just think, are they just did they just get excited? Is this normal? I know that there are people that listen to this thing sped up so they can get through it more quickly. I don't understand it's unsettling to me to hear people you know talk like Strike Force 5 to hear Colbert talking at 1.25 I don't like it

yeah especially when you're very familiar with the rhythm of the show or a person's speech patterns

alright my friend I guess that we should probably wrap it up today but we are gonna be back here tomorrow with more imaginary hopefully my bee sting will have gone down Andrew I got stung by a bee yesterday or a yellow jacket mowing the lawn It was the most painful bee sting I've ever had in my life Like it was When's the last time you were stung by a bee? It's been a while But man, this guy must have really, really taken his sweet time And dumped the entirety It was on my neck too, on the back of my neck And it's still all like, it's swollen Is it possible that I'm allergic to bee stings and I never knew it?

Is there a chance that your workout just actually built some muscles in your neck and that's why it's actually looking swole. That's what it is.

It's a neck muscle. Thank you, Juice. Thank you, Tanya.

The world needs to see the madness that is my upper torso, okay?

All right, we'll see everybody tomorrow. In the meantime, have a great Wednesday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Is there a chance that it's actually called the Triangle of Fire? There's a really good chance Yeah, it's probably called the Triangle of Fire Sorry No problem So, which is not to be confused with After I get a couple of vodka sodas into me And I enter the Triangle of Fire tweets where I just send out some incredibly fired tweets. Power out.