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Jim!

Madam Vice President, I always feel like I should curtsy, and then I remember, that doesn't make sense.

No, it certainly does not. You know Amy Bruckheimer, my chief of staff. Mr. Speaker, it's nice to see you again.

Amy, now am I getting older or are you getting younger? We're both getting older. That's the third option, of course. That's great stuff. T-B-T-L

Guess what day it is Guess what day it is

It's Friday, Friday Gonna get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend Hi, this is Langley I have a joke for you Have you heard about the new movie called Constipation? You probably didn't because it never came out

What kind of trouble are you two brewing? Oh, we're just shooting the shit It's not every day you get to yank it up with a for real radio star. No, podcast star. Radio's dead.

All I know is this violates every canon of respectable broadcasting.

Well, all right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

TBTL!

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I'm an activist and house party enthusiast. Come to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where, as you may have already heard, we are in the midst of a construction frenzy.

Too loud and too specific.

But I am so happy about it because one part of the frenzy is the fact that the insulation is going in in the house. the house i'm out here in this converted garage but down there in the house right now as we speak there is foam being sprayed into its closed cell foam for those of you who know if you know you know and uh it means that we are making a huge leap forward for this uh house project i've been waiting for this moment for months and it's finally here it was a real kind of race to to the finish line yesterday, Walt B. going ham on roughing in plumbing and electrical, and we had Jaden out here till late in the evening. I had probably the least effective ever Papa Murphy's delivery in that none of the items were correct, but we got through it, and now today, here on this blessed Friday morning, episode 4058, by the way, in a collector series let the fun begin on this blessed friday morning the foam is being sprayed into the house which means we're getting close my friends we are getting close if you want to get far you could go to a desert island somewhere and pay around four thousand dollars get off milf island for someone to abandon you on milf island we'll talk about the desert island tourism industry also uh the world's hottest pepper now exists and people are eating it and it's going to be very hot going to be very uncomfortable for everybody involved uh so we'll talk about that too oh and we'll talk to this guy longest running cobra of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships um he's got a sort of a big weekend ahead of him and he is getting ready in

the way that only he can my motto is to catch a snake become a snake think like a snake and be

a snake he's andrew walsh and he's joining me right now good morning my friend good morning you said something has kind of been a side there that i think we could spend the rest of the show

discussing i thought you were going to say our lives but okay i'll take the show depending how this goes our lives would be a little they could be one and the same depending on how the show

goes today um papa murphy's delivers this is the half cooked oh my gosh the uncooked pizza but prepared. Yes, it is. And they deliver. For some reason, I always had it in my head that, like, for some reason, that's the place you go, you pick it up. It always feels like I'm a kid again, because you're going to pick up a pizza. I grew up in the country. We didn't have delivery when I was a kid. Well, Andrew,

they don't deliver, but DoorDash does.

Ah, welcome to the 90s, Andrew. Right, of course. No, no, I wasn't saying that to be... No, that doesn't make

sense, right? The tone of my voice was not giving you grief. It was me judging myself that even out here in the hinterlands, I'm still availing myself of door dash here's what i like about getting the papa murphy's a door dash yeah

because we got to talk about that because okay so you're sort of life hacking it and you're having a third party deliver it but that raises an interesting question why are you if you're having it delivered why not go you know with a place that has it fully cooked andrew i have so much to say i told you block off the rest of our lives yes sir by the way decent show type

It'll block off the rest of our lives.

So dark.

So the thing is, I've done both. I've ordered a preheated pizza, and I've ordered a Papa Murphy's out here, and the preheated pizza is no longer warm when it arrives because I'm so far away from any kind of pizza preparation situation. And so the Papa Murphy's makes sense because it is uncooked, and it gets here, and then I cook it, and then it's the exact right temperature when I'm eating it. unless they bring it on the wrong thickness of crust as they did yesterday with a salad that is literally just a handful of iceberg lettuce. I took a picture, which I can send you, by the way. Actually, I took a video. And the video, I thought if this comes up with DoorDash, I want to send them video evidence. And the video is the outside of the salad container with a photo of what the salad is supposed to look like.

Oh, mistake. Don't put a picture of the food on the outside if the food is not going to hold up to that scrutiny. Precisely.

Oh, no. You effed around and found out, Papa Murphy. So the video is the outside of the salad container showing what it's supposed to look like and then me opening the top and then the complete sort of like sad degradation of the salad idea that is inside of it, which is just some lettuce. There was no, there's supposed to be tomatoes. There's supposed to be some croutons, which by the way, I don't even eat, but I just want them in there because I paid for them. But the most embarrassing thing that I had to challenge with DoorDash on the order, Andrew, was that I ordered a diet Pepsi, like a two liter, and they sent me regular Pepsi. Now, when you're already getting a large pizza with extra cheese, I feel like telling DoorDash, but they sent me the wrong kind of diet soda. It really it it doesn't really pass the smell test.

Well, some people might some people might just like the taste of a diet soda more. I mean, you can't I just realize how futile it is. But I'm surprised. So I need my diet Pepsi. But so I take it that they don't have Coke there. But you can you can deal with a Pepsi. I live with a person. I won't say their name, but I live with a person. A large University of Washington concern. Wait, that makes me sound large. I just mean, we all know who you're talking about. Yeah, it's bingo. No, but Genevieve will not go with Pepsi, I'm pretty sure. If you're at a restaurant or whatever and they don't offer Coke products, then good day, sir.

Well, you know what? I feel like that might be because she's an Atlantean. Oh, sure, yeah. Like hardcore Coca-Cola. She also only watches TBS. Uh-huh. And she only watches the Atlanta Braves starting at 405 West Coast, which was when i knew i was at james demuth's house it was because we were watching tbs and they were like coming up the braves at 405 p.m basically back in the day was it like you could

watch your local baseball team and then you could watch the braves because that was kind of one of

the only kind of national broadcasts ted turner yeah put them on yeah and it was it was the reason that the braves have this huge fan base around the country is because of the fact that ted turner was like, I've got to put something on at night. I'll put the Braves on. So fascinating. It was before all the days of these local sports networks and all the money involved. I think he was literally filling time. That is really fascinating. And it just so happened to make a bunch of Braves fans around the country. But Rich Hall, the comedian Rich Hall, used to have a great joke that I will repeat here on the show for the umpteenth time. Did you say umpteenth or upteenth? umpteenth umpteenth i will repeat this for the umpteenth time he uh he said this on he told this joke on letterman probably 30 years ago he goes yeah coke and pepsi spent a billion dollars on advertising last year so that this situation could unfold you're in a restaurant and you go

have a coke they go pepsi yeah that's fine yeah right well pepsi responded to that in a terrible other than genevieve in a terrible super bowl commercial um do you remember the super bowl commercial from like three years ago where pepsi was like it's not just fine do you remember that it had i think who goes okur who says that uh the singer who says okur i can't make the sound but you know who i'm talking about you don't know who i'm talking about the pop singer i know that

i know i know that people say okur i say it sometimes in my darker moments but um i don't i don't know who's famous for saying okur oh my gosh this is so embarrassing i think most people

probably know what I'm talking about. I'm literally blushing over here. It's Elton John.

By the way, speaking of which, I just saw this thing. Elton John sells his Atlanta condo. I know everything's coming back to Atlanta today, but it was like... elton john sells his atlanta condo for x millions of dollars and i thought why is it so weird to me that elton john had a condo in atlanta that just seems like the most random he's like i gotta get back to the middle south i need to be i need to be close to the east coast but also you know jetable to the west i was like why in the world did he have a place in atlanta and i love our

atlanta listeners yeah and i like i like atlanta too i would put atlanta on the list of places that would be like a good, you know, a big metropolis to live in.

Sure, absolutely. I just, somehow Elton John maintaining a home in Atlanta was surprising to me when I saw it the other day.

Let me just, by the way, save some phones here. It was Cardi B that I was thinking of. She was in this commercial.

Cardi B is an O'Kurr person?

Isn't Cardi, she's the one who popularized, pop, pop. She's the one who says it. Anyway, you don't remember the Super Bowl commercial for Pepsi. It was like her and there's a comedian and a couple of other famous people and they're in a diner somewhere, like a classic like diner like you see on TV, right? No diner in the world can actually live up to those expectations, like the perfect booth, something at the window. Actually, that's not true. There's a few of those in L.A. that I loved. Anyway, yeah. And they're like, but most of them are film sets. Yeah, right. Pepsi. It's not just OK. And it's like, huh? And like for such a big ad buy on such a huge platform, you're going to go with like a defensive crouch. Like, I just hate commercials that start from a defensive crouch.

Also, it really worked because I now only order Pepsi because I've realized it's not just fine. And also had no memory of that commercial as a person who's obsessed with ads and the Super Bowl. Like, you could not find a person to be more predisposed to have a memory of that commercial, and I have no memory of it. It tells you how bad it was.

Okay, Steve Carell. I knew there was some comedian. I couldn't remember who it was. You consider Steve Carell a comedian? Well, you're right. He's an actor. I mean, I think of his origins as being a comedian, but you're right. No, he's been in all kinds of roles at this point, so you're right. But here, let me just take a listen.

I wasn't trying to be harsh. I'm trying to figure out where do I fit Steve Carell into my mental map?

No, you're right, because he's in that boxing movie. That's not a funny movie. What am I thinking of? Oh, Foxcatcher? Foxcatcher. It's about wrestling. It's more of a wrestling movie. Let's take a listen to this. It's more wrestling. I feel like if they were wrestling in that movie, the vibe would have been so different. The less I talk and the more I play commercials today, probably the better based on the track record of my first 15 minutes of trying to say words. But let's take a quick listen to this. Please do. We're in a diner, I think.

I'll take a Coke. Is Pepsi okay? Is Pepsi okay? Is Pepsi okay? Ow! Are puppies okay? Is a shooting star okay? Is the laughter of a small child okay? Pepsi's more than okay! It's OK. OK. What have we learned today? You want a Pepsi? I want a Pepsi. There you go. OK.

Not a bad ad. He's pretty good. You're right. I was a little bit harsh on it. Also, you probably recognize another celebrity in there, Lil Jon. I was going to say, that better be a little OK. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, that's the commercial I was talking about.

I know that like I know that you and Genevieve have a whole thing going with after these messages and I don't want to I don't want to try to tell you how to do your show. But have you at any time delved into the world of the Mickey Rooney Rainier beer ads from the 70s and 80s? No, I like I like both. There is an entire genre of Rainier beer ads where Mickey Rooney is just losing his damn mind. At that point, probably like a 75-year-old Mickey Rooney. They're incredible. I feel like it could be a whole bottle episode of After These Messages.

Wait. I'm watching one now. The first result on YouTube or on Google is them going through a jungle somewhere. And this is reminding me of something I've seen before.

Running wild Rainier beer is high in the Cascade Mountains with Mickey Roney and Boone Kirkman.

Here he comes. He's a dandy. Mick, get your glass. I'll get the glass. I've got it.

Okay, so they're trying to catch one of those big walking bottles of Rainier beer. Yes, which was kind of a thing for Rainier back in the day.

Oh, look out. He's gone. Well, one thing, they didn't all get away. Tell us, Mick. Were you thrilled to be here? They're drinking them on their Jeep.

Dude, he freaking sells it. Like, he's really good in these commercials.

He kind of throws it away there. Of course, this always happens when somebody says Mickey Rooney. The first thing I think of is Andy Rooney, and then I have to say in my head, I have to sort them all out. And for a second, I pictured Andy Rooney in these commercials, and that... That would be amazing. That seems like a different kind of amazing. You know what I mean? There's one... of these commercials where mickey rooney is just screaming this is what i mean when i say it could be a whole episode of after these messages because it's not all sort of faux documentary style there's one where he's just screaming about rainier light i think and then there's just beers are appearing next to his face and he's breaking various capillaries screaming about rainier beer

and it's totally unhinged and i love it do you know that former seattle mayor jenny durkin uh was one of those bottles of Rainier in a commercial or maybe more than one commercial. I'm looking this up here. I remember reading about that at some point, and I'm looking. Please, you know what? Nobody has to double check.

Do you know current Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler was Duffman? I did know that. Yes, I did know that.

I can find zero evidence of the fact that I just told you, but I don't give a shit. I don't know. I don't care. Everybody just repeat it.

One of the best rumors I've ever heard was that Jenny Durkin was one of the Budweiser, excuse me, Rainier bottles running around in the wilderness. Here it is.

Wait, here it is. Seattle Post-Intelligence, sir, or what remains of it. In 2017, we remember the television ads, the Rainier beer bottles ran around and danced. Incoming Seattle Mayor Durkin was among the running Rainiers.

Wow.

I wonder there must have been somebody in either Jenny Durkin was what was an actor auditioning for things in Seattle and they were like the good news is you booked it the bad news is we will never know it was you yeah I know like or she was related to somebody who was just casting the ads or was in the advertising agency and they were like somebody's got to wear these stockings these tights and climb inside this bottle Jenny do you want to do this

I feel like it must have been closer to the second one because I've not heard of her. I've auditioned for worse. Let's see. The candidate has played up her old Seattle bona fides. This is Seattle Times now if you don't trust the P.I., which I do. I trust the P.I. I trust them. It's not what it used to be. Proclaiming her love for the supersonics and touting her role as a Rainier beer bottle in a beloved TV ad. Quote, I watched the Space Needle being built. OK, well, that's all we get.

Dude, that's honestly, though, like you cannot have better Seattle bona fides than you were one of those Rainier beer bottles. I mean, those things are frigging iconic. Other than being, if you were the guy on the motorcycle, Rainier beer, like other than that, you couldn't get more legit Seattle than the beer bottles.

It says that there are more details in her text messages, but they were all mysteriously deleted somehow during the summer of 2020. See, I wasn't living in Seattle. I forgot. What did she do that you didn't like? I don't know. What did she do that? What did she do that?

I did like Luke would be a better question. But she's a real blind spot for me in terms of what her mayoral deal was.

She was running the city during the Black Lives Matter protests. And there was some pretty major questionable decision making on the part of the mayor's office and the police department here. And all of her communications with the then police chief best mysteriously were accidentally deleted from from her official phone, Luke. And so and just recently, I think just recently, it finally came to a close that she's nobody's going to face any kind of retribution for that.

Yes, I'm shocked. Yeah, absolutely shocked. Once again, we have managed to land on a very light topic. Wait, hold on. I had some thoughts on religion. I was trying to describe the show to the guys doing the spray foam in the house today And I found myself saying, well, we don't talk about anything important And then I remembered that we've talked about religion And I've cried talking about immigration this week This is the heaviest week of programming we've ever done for no particular reason I know, I wasn't feeling great about my performance yesterday No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying No, no, I know that's not what you're saying I caught myself describing the show the way I normally do, which is like, I don't know, it's me and my friend and we just talk about nothing. And then I was like, as I was saying that, I was going through like a kind of a sort of, you know, I don't know, a memory of what we've talked about this week. And I was like, actually, sometimes it is heavy. And sometimes I do cry.

Yeah, right. I mean, sometimes we talk about the Darien Gap. Did you leave that in, by the way? Yeah, I didn't know. I wondered if maybe you had taken it up. No, no, no, I appreciated your honesty, and, like, you had a real moment on the show yesterday, and I thought it was really good, and people, we got some response from people saying, hey, thanks for being open, thanks for being vulnerable. My thing is, is when I try to, like, make arguments out of the, when I find myself going around my day making arguments in my head, and then suddenly I want to talk about it on TBTL, and it's like, you sometimes use this analogy of if I ever get into a fight, I'll have so much, like, pent-up aggression that I'll...

I'll punch somebody to the moon. I feel like that's me sometimes with topics like that. When we talk about serious things that I feel pretty passionately about, but I don't talk about much, except when I'm fighting, I'm shadow boxing in the shower or while I'm puttering around or whatever. And then suddenly I find myself talking to you about it. Now, if you and I were just like over beers at the Eagles, it would be like, okay, whatever. Like maybe I'm not the most articulate on those things. But then I remember Chris Hayes is listening. And then you're like, shit.

I think occasionally at best. Okay, good. You know what, Andrew? Chris, if you haven't listened to yesterday's show, don't. Let's do an experiment. If he doesn't text us about this moment, we know, oh, that's a poison pill. That's really dangerous. If we just start, like, building things into the show to find out if our more famous listeners are monitoring, like, that's a real bad deal for everybody involved.

Do you have that, though, something? And not just with Chris. Now, I throw Chris out there because, obviously, he is our most famous listener, right? I think however you measure those things. Well, Clooney. But also because Chris, for a living, I mean, Rick Clooney, he's one of the guys doing the spray foam. Yeah, no, I think we're going to thank him today in just a little bit, I think, for donating. But obviously Chris has a great handle on those issues as an intellectual and a writer and a speaker for a living, right? And so I'm embarrassed. But it's not just him. It's other people, too, who I'll just like sometimes you just think about something you said on the show. And it could just be a listener we know really well or a friend of ours or whatever. And then suddenly you just think about the show, how it might have hit their ears. And you just want to kind of like dig a hole. Do you get that? Maybe I don't oddly enough with that like I am.

See, yeah, that's for whatever reason, that is not something that my brain struggles with is like other than like, you know, I have mixed feelings about the fact that I cried pretty hard on the show yesterday. What I was trying to remember in the moment was this feels like it's longer than it is to you. Does that make any sense? Because every time we get emotional, you know, on the show or I get emotional, if I start to actually tear up, which is thankfully not super common, it feels like time stands still. And it's not standing still. It's going by like probably like a second of me struggling to sort of push through my crying. A second of that for me feels like it's a minute. So yesterday when I was having that moment, I was trying to tell myself, this is not taking as long as you think it is. But that's the kind of thing that obviously it's living in my head. I feel very vulnerable about that. I don't think – I don't tend to ruminate on other stuff. It's basically if I cry, Andrew, I'm embarrassed about it. Other than that, I feel great about my contribution to the program.

This is good to know. These are good conversations to have because what I – yesterday I extended that because I didn't think it lasted long enough.

You put it at, what would that be, 0.05, no, 1.5 speed?

What I did was I looped it a couple of times, but then it started to sound like I was looping it. You could hear the edit, so I just inserted the sound of a baby wailing. Right. Like for about, it was like.

And you, I saw a guy at Safeway.

Can you imagine someone actually slowing that down now? Now everybody's, yeah, slow that one down. Like, why I'm not embarrassed about that, what I just did, is that I should ruminate on that, so I never do that again.

I just accidentally clicked on the Google doodle today, and it's Adelaide Hall, jazz singer, thinking about your kiddo, Adelaide.

Ripped me off. And by that, I mean ripped off her mother. I told you, I was voting for her name to be Sierra. Oh, I don't think I remembered that. Yeah, I was outvoting.

Why Sierra? That wasn't a very common name back then. I don't know. I thought it was a cool name.

It is a cool name, though. Back in 1993 Sure, yeah Entering 1994 on the cusp of my daughter's birth I didn't have a huge vote in the matter In those days But I'm pretty happy with how it turned out Hey, let's thank some of our donors This is listener-supported podcastery, my friends And we want to thank people that are making it possible With their generous donations Or domations Sorry, you know, I'm having trouble today, Andrew Because I mentioned this to you, I think, off air yesterday But I have a stye Oh, yeah In my eye It's really my eyelid Have you ever gotten one of these?

I don't I think so once Genevieve told me it was a stye I had an irritation and then I was like, oh yeah, that's a stye I don't like thinking about it

Well, do you like me talking about it? Because I'm about to. Go into a lot of detail. Yes. Spare no detail on this. I always thought when people said, oh, I have a stye in my eye, I thought it would be on your eyeball. But the thing that I'm dealing with is in my eyelid. And it's just kind of like, I think it's probably from all the crying I did yesterday. That's when it started. I jammed up a tear duct or something. So I'm kind of shooting just out of my right eye today. So I apologize.

Are you wincing? Like is one eye closed? Occasionally.

I'm trying to leave it alone. Becca was giving me advice yesterday. She was like, do not touch it. And if you do touch it, sterilize your hands before you touch it. Yes, absolutely. So I've done none of that at all. I just was rooting around in the dirt and then putting my grimy mitts on my eyeball. Put a compress on it.

I don't know what a compress is, but you should do it. No, I did this morning. It actually felt amazing. I believe that.

It was a warm, you know, like dish, not dishrag that had been washing dishes, but like a warm kind of small towel. Yeah. Put it on there. It was an absolute dream. And then the people rolled up to spray foam the house. And I was, like, sitting on the couch with, like, a dishrag on my eye. And I was like, this is unbecoming.

Get yourself an eye patch.

That's kind of a tough look, right? Well, if this thing doesn't fix itself, I will be soon wearing an eye patch, Andrew. That's a look. And you know who's going to be okay with that? Robbie Cowan of New York City. Oh. California. God, they have one of everything. They sure do. Thanks, Robbie. Appreciate you. also Colby Blanton is in Seattle Washington hey what up Colby that's a familiar name also Ron and Dana Blazkowicz are in Corvallis Oregon home of Oregon State University and also the Reser Stadium and a place called Prax which is this new performance space where we're going to be doing live wire now here's the thing that's interesting the Reser family have you Have you had the burritos? Have you enjoyed the Reeser family's products? No, I've never heard of it. This is all new to me. Big Northwest thing. Okay, really? So Reeser family foods.

Up here, like in Seattle too? Reeser family foods? Oh, yeah.

Well, I knew about it growing up in Seattle.

I've never...

Every frozen burrito I ate as a child was from the Reeser Corporation.

Oh, I see. It's something that I find in the freezer section of my local grocer, not something that I would see like a burrito stand or something. Correct.

No, it would be you'd buy it from the grocery store, and then you would apply heat to it. Huh.

No, but even the logo. I thought once you told me that, I'm like, oh, I'll recognize the logo. But no, this doesn't look familiar to me. It also seems to be a lot of stuff that I wouldn't eat. When I go to their website, it's a lot of deli salads, macaroni, potato salad, that kind of stuff. I don't mess around with any. Oh, macaroni and cheese. I wouldn't eat anything that they sell, actually. Well, the burritos are not bad. But they probably have cheese and stuff inside of them, I'm guessing.

Maybe, if you pay extra. But, like, so I grew up with Reser Family Foods, and then I was surprised to find out that they also named the stadium at Oregon State University. And then Patricia Reser, who is, I believe, kind of in charge of the Reser Family Empire, there's a facility, a facility, there is a performance space in Beaverton, Oregon, called the Reser, where we've done Livewire. And then they also opened its name for Patricia Reser And then they opened one in Corvallis But they already had a Reser So they had to come up with a new name for it And it's called Prax Which I think is Patricia Reser AX I don't know what the AX is for But like Patricia Reser has donated so much money And been such a sort of philanthropist around town That they're running out of things to name places Interesting In honor of Patricia Reser

I don't know how I feel about, and again, I realize this is somebody with deep pockets and maybe someday we'll be a benefactor to TBTL, so I should be careful here.

Ideally, I've taken a photo with her, by the way, so we're halfway there.

Nice. Were you wearing your, what did our TBTL shirt that we had made for the Mariners? Oh, go Mariners and go eat a bagel. Were you wearing that shirt in the photo? I had it modified to say go eat a burrito. Okay, fantastic. I don't like the name Prax for a performance space. It sounds like that's a fine name for, like, I don't know, an alien.

It sounds a little bit like the thing we're going to do right before we have our colonoscopy. The stuff they're going to drink. Hey, by the way, how's it going with that? Are you doing that?

I have just kind of a doctor's appointment physical check-in in, I think, maybe about two weeks. And when I do that, I'm going to set up whatever we decide I need as far as a screening is concerned. We decide.

You and I decide.

You and I decide. Me and Dr. Lukels. Yeah.

The doctor will see you Erica Sparkenbaugh is in Chapel Hill, North Carolina Right there in the research triangle Love it, thank you Erica They know all about colonoscopies down there I'm sure they're leading

the nation in colonoscopy research down there in Chapel Hill. April Nilsen is in Edmonds, Washington, a truly underrated part of the Pacific Northwest. Have you and Viv spent any time in Edmonds, Washington? And if you haven't, can I recommend you go there? I have not spent a lot

of time there, although I was thinking about it a couple of weeks ago as I was watching Death Cab for Cutie and thinking, hey, you know what? I played whirly ball with that guy on stage in

Edmonds once we've had this debate before I consider where we were to be Aurora it is I believe it is technically Edmonds but I don't think of that whirly ball it is not culturally Edmonds culturally Edmonds is little cute like coffee shops with like homemade croissants Rick Steves the water that's culturally Edmonds oh that's right because no no because we've also

argued about like the um that Arby's because I go to I haven't been in a long time deeply not Culturally Edmunds. But it is Edmunds though. It is technically. For me Edmunds is Whirlyball and Arby's which by the way are two things that I love. And I love those

things as well but it's funny because my conception of Edmunds is you take the ferry it's like so unbelievably charming and so when we talk about Aurora Avenue when we talk about when we talk about Whirlyball when we talk about you know Aurora Village the mall where I once saw the James Bond movie Octopussy, the first movie I ever saw in a theater. I don't think of that as culturally Edmonds.

I have a question for you. What is a funnier name for a show title? I'm going to give you three options here. Block off the rest of our lives, You're Not My Papa Murphy, or What We Talk About When We Talk About Edmonds.

Well, I love all three of them, although I feel like I've leaned way too much into the What We Talk About When We Talk About Taco Time. So I would vote for the, what was the middle one? You're Not My Papa Murphy. Yes. Okay. I would vote for that one because I don't think that one has been as overused as the other ones.

I don't remember the other one. I don't think of the – I think of the Raymond Carver book, right, what we talk about.

Well, that's what I'm always making a reference to. Okay. I didn't even know that was a Raymond Carver book. I knew it was a book. What we talk about when we talk about love. Love. Yeah. I could not have told you that was Raymond Carver, but when Taco Time comes up on the show, as it does often, I then go to what we talk about when we talk about Taco Time.

Do they have any of those in Edmund's Taco Times?

Oh, are you kidding me? It's crawling with them.

Yeah, now that's culturally Edmund's.

In fact, no, it's actually not. The Taco Time is also on Aurora. It's by Whirly Ball. And you know what it's also by, Andrew, is the Safeway where me and my buddies once bought, I don't know, five dozen eggs at 11 o'clock at night. Oh. I think I told you this story, but not that long ago.

That's because you just wanted to make a big omelet, right?

That's why teenagers usually buy a lot of eggs late at night. Exactly. We were going to egg Angie and Paula Stamolis' house. And they were culturally Edmunds, by the way. And we were buying all these eggs at that Safeway that's right by the taco time up there. And I can't remember if I think that the person checking us out, this was back when they had humans that would actually scan your groceries and sell them to you. and the person said making a cake which was a pretty funny statement to about like seven

but teenage boys they did sell them i remember and maybe i've maybe i've said this every time you've told that story but um i remember the first time i bought shaving cream and i was buying it because i really wanted to start shaving but for some reason and this has to do with my personality and also maybe just like um maybe how we feel when we're that age and going through puberty but i was kind of deeply embarrassed like i wasn't sure if i really needed it yet but i wanted to start shaving i'm not sure but either way i remember i was staying with my grandparents and i went to this small family run uh drugstore that i'd never been in before like a little independent pharmacy and i went in there and i bought myself a can of shaving cream and i don't think i bought a razor because i think i was going to use my dad's or something but i bought a thing of shaving cream and nothing else and the woman behind the counter would not believe that i was not using this for no good i remember her giving me a hard time like no and i was just so embarrassed by i mean i i would have been i i was just as embarrassed as if i was buying a playboy magazine and i don't know why i was so deeply embarrassed about it but i remember um just feeling like i just wanted to again dig a hole or crawl out of my skin as she was kind of razzing me about the shaving cream i

was like no it's for me it's for me i feel so bad for you because like you know those kinds of purchases when you're a kid when you're transitioning into a different phase of your life are so fraught and you know a lot of women have those around kind of like menstruation and stuff like that like for the I'm sure she was just trying to be friendly but like I'm just imagining you in that moment of nervousness and then an adult not reading that room sufficiently and then you just feeling like extra double embarrassed about it but I think she thought I I guess.

Guess, what is the prank with shaving cream? You put it all over somebody's locker or their window.

Or something. Yeah, I don't even. I knew that shaving cream was somehow prank related, but, well, two things related to this, sort of. One is that, you know who loves this kind of content? I was wondering, is it Kit? Kit Healy. I had a feeling. You knew this was Kit Healy of Minneapolis, Minnesota's favorite kind of content. I did. Golly, what an amazing guess by you. There's a hunch. I'm starting to believe my head. You know what? First hunch, best hunch. Great job. And thanks, Kit Healy. Appreciate you. Two things on this. One, the only large-scale prank I ever pulled as a kid was me and Donald Whitehouse and Todd Staley stole all of Donald Whitehouse's mom's pads. Not tampons, because tampons you know like the the thing that you might put in your underwear yeah yeah because they have they had a glue strip on one side i guess so they would stick in your underwear and we thinking about this as a 47 year old i'm like how mad was donald whitehouse's mom when she went to grab one of her pads because she had a lot of them she was like let me go to the drawer where i keep my in the bathroom where i keep roughly 100 pads costco and there were zero pads because we had

taken all of them you took them all how did you think you were going to get away with that why i mean you never take all of anything that you're that you're taking in a sneaky way i'm telling

you man they say uh what uh pigs get fed hugs get slaughtered like don't overdo it right i didn't know that phrase but i like it but like we we were not pranking his mom we were pranking daniel Bagley Elementary School because what we did was Stuck the Sticky side of the pads to every Window we could reach At the school I guess it was like So that when either I don't know if this was in the David Moneymaker era who was a principal there Or the Ora Franklin era she was also a principal There I guess the idea was the principal Or a teacher would roll up and just see Pads taped to every Window you know It was a different time in the 80s I don't know who we were pranking, but that was the closest I ever got to a shaving cream type of situation was sticking Donald Whitehouse's mom's pads all over the windows of Daniel Bagley Elementary School.

In the spirit of something we do on the show a lot, which is we try to. Well, we definitely digress. We try to use phrases that might sound cruel to animals and we turn them into more innocent phrases vis-a-vis or a la PETA. PETA. And so here's what I'm working on. Instead of pigs get fed and hogs get slaughtered, how about pigs get fed and hogs get hollered at? Hollered, slaughtered. If you say it in a special way, if you just relax your jaw, it sounds like slaughtered.

my dad has this tool that drills it's basically a huge very powerful drill and drill bit that you can drill through the sill plate on a house so like kind of like basically where the wall the way that the wall is framed before there's insulation and sheetrock right there's a two by four that's basically screwed down to the floor and you can use this crazy tool to we were drilling through it yesterday to put the pipes in for a heating system, a mini-split. And I couldn't get over what a great name this Milwaukee tool was, because it makes these holes. It was called the Hole Hog.

Oh, yeah. I was like, that's genius work. And it's spelled Hole, H-O-L-E, the Hole Hog.

Yeah, H-O-L-E, and then, but I think, I believe it was H-A-W-G.

I don't like that.

I don't like that part, but I was like, Good job somebody in Milwaukee, Oregon, which is, I believe, where the Milwaukee Tool Company is based. Somebody was sitting around there like, you know what? This thing makes holes. It's a real beast. We're going to call it the whole hog.

Do you think, and I'm going to see if I can actually give you a quiz on the fly before we get to top stories here. Do you think you could name the branding colors of all of the major tool manufacturers? Because you just said Milwaukee and I was like red, right? That's red. Milwaukee's red. Yeah. Okay, and then what about... Rigid orange. Rigid is orange. What is the green one? Green one would be... Isn't there a bright, like, fluorescent green one?

There is a green one. What is the green one? I'm looking this up here.

See, this is the problem. I brought up this quiz, but I don't know if it actually exists anywhere, and I would have to do research. The green one is, I feel like it might be like a store brand.

All right.

Makita? A Makita. I think it's Makita. Teal. They're listing it as teal on this website. Yeah, but I'm thinking of what you're thinking of. Yes. Okay, and then what did you say yellow is? Yellow is rigid, I think. I'm getting DeWalt on this thing. Like old Walt uses DeWalt. Red Milwaukee, teal Makita. Rigid is branded as orange according to ProToolReviews.com.

I thought you were calling back to the – because I did say orange for rigid initially.

My dad is a big rigid man. Gotcha, gotcha. And then there's a blue one, which I wouldn't have known this. Is that Harbor Freights?

Are they dipping their toe in? Because Harbor Freights, so the deal with Harbor Freight is it's kind of like the cheapo tools. So they're affordable, but they apparently don't last. This is what I've learned from Walt.

This is what somebody gave me a Harbor Freight gift card as a homewarming gift or whatever. Because they don't care about your home being warmed. Well, no, but, you know, they even said they gave it. This was a friend who was actually very generous, gave us a Home Depot card and a Harbor Freight card. And I had not heard of Harbor Freight before.

Did they give you a Tuesday morning card? Because it's always Harbor Freight and Tuesday morning are always in the same shopping center.

I've never heard of Tuesday morning.

I don't even know what they sell there. It's just the weirdest name, Tuesday morning.

It is interesting. I remember Ruby Tuesdays. Anyway, but I think he even said, he's like, I'm giving you these two cards. Buy your tools at Home Depot. Don't buy the tools at Harbor Freight. by your freight yes ship things no i think it was like buy supplies or like refillable supplies or something at harbor freight and said don't yeah so i did not this whole harbor freight thing was

brand new to me the second thing i was going to say about your purchasing of the shaving cream was it reminds me in a weird way of uh and again apologies for the noise is it housekeeping um i remember going to the public health place uh you know that i went to as a kid uh for you know my physicals for football and stuff you know we didn't have insurance and they just had a big jar of condoms and i remember taking condoms i was like probably seven or eight like i was not at the point in my life where even that stuff worked you know what i mean potentially i just was fascinated with them as an object and i remember getting i knew that they were something to do with your privates and i knew that like they were something that i should not be uh that should be kind of a um it wasn't age appropriate for you you knew it wasn't age appropriate for me i didn't know really what they did and i didn't need them but i wanted them i i was like there's something about this that's intriguing to me and i remember so like when the like the doctor had like left a little exam room, I remember grabbing a bunch of them, putting them in my pocket, and then getting home, and then locking the bathroom door in our little rental house on 77th, and then opening these things up and just looking at them, just kind of like observing them, with no idea what they did or where to, necessarily where to put them on my body or whatever, but just being like fascinated, because this was something that was, I knew it was adult, and somehow related to, Again, something erotic, but I couldn't figure out what it was.

Do you remember how you got rid of them?

I flushed them down the toilet. Did you really? Yes, including the wrapper.

Oh, that's not good.

I know. I regret it to this day.

I was picturing you. I thought you were going to do the thing where you were going to crumple them into a piece of paper or a paper towel and then bury them at the bottom of the garbage can.

Hello and welcome to Top Story. I'm just going to get this hot pepper story out of the way quickly, Andrew, because I know you're kind of meh on it. But the people who came up with the Carolina Reaper, which is the hottest, was previously the hottest pepper ever, have now come up with a pepper that is hotter than the Carolina Reaper. It's however many million Scoville units. And the thought I had when I read this was, why don't you just put hot lava in your mouth? Like, what are we, it's not even food anymore. Like you're just why don't you just pepper spray the inside of your mouth like I'd we've we've gone far beyond whatever the original Application of a pepper was which is to kind of add a little spice and flavor to things and now we're just sort of Bioengineering something that is that will hurt you bad Like just you know what get a kiln and melt down an aluminum can until it's that kind of like slippery mercury kind of color of whatever and then pour that in your mouth you know what that is that's hotter than the hottest pepper if this is where we're trying to go with it yeah i mean that was kind

of my take too just kind of like well what's the i got there for i read well let me stake out my own territory here i uh no i mean that's you know this article i can't remember the publication that

sent me um that had written this up but um you know it's about this this guy who had who had you know created what was the hottest pepper and now he's and here was the one interesting thing i sort of thought is after he created the hottest pepper he knew somebody else was going to come at him with an even hotter pepper eventually so he secretly created the come back to that like hey they're going to come at me it's like a me more and then i'm going to come back with this one but he waited 12 years and nobody came back at him so he just beat his own record right that is actually

a funny detail no you're exactly right he's the carolina reaper guy yeah and he beat his own carolina reaper sitting around going like well this is technically hotter and nobody's staring

at a phone just staring at a phone plugged into the wall just waiting with a google alert for hottest pepper yeah dethroned carolina pepper dethroned never happened so he dethroned his own pepper um but no that that's kind of and then apparently he was on a i believe a podcast and he went and just ate the whole oh is that the is that the hot wing show too that you were it is

I am constantly shocked by the popularity of that show Not because I think it's a bad show But because I guess really my thought about Hot Ones is I've worked on so many programs Where our entire mission was to try to make something on the internet That everyone started noticing And it's so hard to do actually And I've never been successful with it Even this, only a few people are noticing, Andrew Well the internet's big too It turns out And the idea that someone was like, well, what if we had celebrities eat hot wings and then we interviewed them while they were eating hot wings? It just seems so sticky. And it seemed like the kind of thing we would have tried at the Bryant Park Project to absolutely no avail. Like the fact that it absolutely worked and is now culturally this. I mean, it's arguably probably one of the biggest talk shows in America. And like it probably gets many more views than like Colbert, than, you know, Kimmel, Fallon, all of that.

This came up on the show a few years ago, but the show was already popular, but I had zero, zero awareness of it. I had not heard of it. And you could, I remember you could not believe that I had. And you said, and now I always think of it as the Paul Rudd show only because I think you finally got through to me by saying, you know, the meme of Paul Rudd saying something. Look at us. Look at us. We're doing it. Look at us. And you're like, that's from the Hot Ones show. I'm like, oh, okay. Gotcha. So now in my head, I hear Hot Ones. I just think of Paul Rudd.

Yeah, I mean, it is actually a very good premise for an interview show because I think you get people kind of off their game or whatever. So, yeah, the guy who now has the hottest pepper, who had the previous hottest pepper, was on Hot Ones, I think, eating it. I didn't watch the video.

And he did actually. No, I didn't. I've still never seen a Hot Ones. But anyway, I guess he just ate the whole thing. And then it said, like, for a second it tastes good. And then it just is immediately replaced by absolute pain in your mouth. And then it said something like hours of tummy troubles or something.

You know what I'm realizing, Andrew? Huh? I think we had that dude on Livewire.

Well, you definitely – I think you did too because you ate – because that's what I was also thinking. I was at that taping of Livewire in Arizona, I believe, and you had on Teller of Penn. No, no, I'm sorry. You had Penn on of Penn.

Penn, yeah. I think we might have had the – I think we might have had this pepper dude on. I think you did, yeah. We had somebody on talking about peppers, and then I ate a pepper, and where I didn't plan things well was it was at the beginning of the show. I mean, I guess the idea was then people got to enjoy me kind of struggling with it. So in that way, maybe it paid off. I think – did I eat a Carolina Reaper? You ate something. I thought it might have been a ghost pepper. I ate something super-duper hot. Whatever, like, the hottest thing this guy could bring was. I wonder if that was actually the same dude. Probably was. I'm looking it up here, but I think so, yeah. But again, it's just like at this point, these are not – this is not food. This is like putting an industrial chemical in your mouth.

Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm – I'm kind of like, what's the point? And I guess, like, once you start getting into something, I mean, this is obviously more than a hobby. It's a career for him. And, like, I guess I could see the obsession with constantly, like, creating new strains of a vegetable that you're growing. But it would just be more interesting to me if you were making it tastier or changing the mouthfeel or the snap. Like, you're just making it less and less edible.

Right. You're turning it into an industrial product instead of a foodstuff. stuff um and you know but but good on him i guess uh the other thing i want to talk to you about was this desert island tourism thing i was reading about this in the hustle which the hustle is is it's sort of like the new york post it's a place i get a lot of the topics for this show and i feel bad about it i don't know why it's like the hustle is very rise and grind it's very one of those kind of things it's like you should just be eating um what was the soylent what was that like thing oh yeah in silicon valley was eating it's it's a it's a real silicon valley vibe but somebody was interviewed for the hustle who puts together the

these um desert island trips so you could pay about three and a half grand three point seven grand they say to you have to fly yourself to wherever the island near where one of the islands is but then once you land you will be escorted uh to by a guy named alvaro a cerezo um or one of his folks to an a desert island or a deserted island i should say i was gonna ask you about that yes

Because you're usually pretty persnickety about that. Persnickety or accurate, Andrew?

Well, we talked about it. You're not invited to my desert island.

No, I'm kind of with you on it because I think it should be deserted as well. I feel like I'm persnickety, but then I thought a listener raised a pretty good argument, a counterpoint. But anyway, we don't have to get into that. What did it have to do with the hydration of the deserted island? It could technically be a desert. That there was something about – or it might have been that it's one of those things where there's an alternate version of desert now or something. I don't know. Go ahead.

Sure. So, yeah, sorry, deserted island. They'll drop you off on a deserted island, and you will live there for eight to ten days. That's, it turns out, the amount of time most people who want to do this have for vacation. So that's how long they leave you out there, and you've just got to kind of make it work. And my question to you, Andrew, is, does this sound appealing to you? No, no. Really, it sounds kind of appealing to me.

Really, just because it would just, like, force you to just leave a lot of distraction behind?

Yeah, one of the things that people have done it what they say is it's crazy how much time there is in the day when you're not Podcasting or on your phone and it would be interesting to me It seems like an interesting thing to actually kind of explore that like what would I actually do for eight days without my phone? On a deserted island like I feel like I would go through a lot of stages I would be probably euphoric when I got there and then I would be very bored and then I would be very hungry And then I would want to leave but then I wouldn't be able to call them because I don't have my cell phone and then there'd be some sort of breakthrough day three where I would be like this is my new reality this is where I live now this is this is who I am this is the real lamb this is a real me exactly and then I guess you would just be doing the podcast maybe with Genevieve or John or something people would enjoy that I think Ted Ramirez was the guy

I don't know why it says here on the LiveWire listing from October.

Ted Ramirez was the guy who is the pepper person or was the guy we had on LiveWire? I think so.

That's the person you had on LiveWire who I believe was your hot pepper person. But according to the description, I can't figure out why. I'm going to read the full description. Please do. This is LiveWire, October 4th, 2016. LiveWire goes to Phoenix. So, hey, that was one. We said Arizona. By the time I get to Phoenix. It says where Luke attempts to eat the hottest pepper in the world, comma, entomologist Justin Schmidt tells us what's getting stung by. thousands of insects is like and then magician pen gillette describes the startling benefits of eating only potatoes i forgot about that yeah oh no and then troubadour ted ramirez sings a love song so ted ramirez was the singer yeah justin schmidt was the guy who got stung a lot and um and pen is pen so i guess who was the pepper i don't know maybe did justin schmidt bring peppers

because he was talking about pain he's the guy who can handle a lot of pain i don't think so because i remember the cover of his book i think it has like a b on it i don't think he was the Pepper guy so you had four people on but for some reason did we not even credit the pepper guy no

and then under officially under guests it just says Penn Jillette so boy I'm gonna screw that

was a whole by the way that was a whole thing with Penn Jillette he was our big draw for the night as you might imagine and um he I think I only found this out later but like basically the day before the show his people called our people to say oh he's not flying to phoenix for this are you crazy and somehow i think that might i can't remember that was under the robin tenenbaum era of the show or the laura hadden probably rob somebody basically like talked pen gillette into getting on an airplane in los angeles and flying which isn't the longest flight by any means but it's like or maybe vegas i think he lived in he lives in vegas famously but like getting on a plane in Vegas and flying out to Arizona to be on this radio show he'd never heard of and

somehow he just didn't get them it so it was a miscommunication that he would

have to be in person I think that was part of it and maybe his mood just changed you know it's weird these shows are are weird because like if any potential guests are listening please mute your podcast or skip ahead because I don't want you to hear this but it's like we kind of need them more than they need us generally so like we needed Penn Gillette more than Penn Gillette needed Livewire to sell his book about eating potatoes, which I will give him this. It was a very interesting book and it certainly worked for him in the sense that he lost a lot of weight from this mono, kind of mono ingredient diet. The idea being pick any one thing and just only his friend who's an astronaut came up with this.

diet and to this day I believe he is much more svelte than he used to be so I guess it's working but um but just yeah he basically was like oh yeah I'm not I'm not going to Arizona for some radio interview and I don't know who talked him into coming but that was the biggest magic trick I've ever seen yeah no kidding cuz like if I I get on planes all the time to go to places because I have to I need to do that for my job or I won't get paid and I won't have a job anymore but if I if it was like optional I would never get on an airplane again for anything like if I was Penn Jillette and I was like doing my do we go up teeth or um teeth we go um teeth in our if our buns if I was doing my up teeth if I was doing my up teeth sold-out show at the Rio or wherever the hell Penn and Teller are like the guy is not hurting for money like they're selling you know they're selling out their theater for their magical tricks and doing their tv like i would not voluntarily blow up my weekend to get on an airplane and fly to arizona to watch a guy eat a hot pepper and borderline shit his pants i wonder what the argument there was i don't know but i'm i'm i'm forever grateful to whoever talked to his person and got them to tell him you go get on that airplane and go to go to arizona because i

don't know how they did that yeah i i would love to because there's various directions you can go

right you can go i mean i don't think pity on me i don't think bad cop i don't think bad cop works right because what's your leverage yeah exactly it's not like sad cop like well if we don't have you yes good cop sad cop there's our show title come on good cop sad cop how have we done 4058 of these we've never said good cop sad cop sorry you're not my papa murphy you're getting erased all right let's do a little music for your weekend before we get out of here by the i got 19 back on my order from doordash oh good little closer there the majority of the order i think it was 28 total for my pizza my salad my sad salad and my turns out full sugar pepsicola and uh and i was so first i went through the uh like um you know the chat function on the on the doordash app and they were like we can give you three dollars and 15 cents back and i was like absolutely not i am watching thursday night football i have nowhere to be like i will i will do this like i will get i will absolutely get into the trenches with you doordash and i did and they gave me back 19 of my money let me ask you this about that um about that

soda forgetting the fact here for a moment that it's pepsi not coke and you're okay with that but it was actually that you ordered diet it's more than okay though it's more than okay um but But is getting an accidental full sugar soda sort of like, well, okay, if the universe wants me to have this. Genevieve usually drinks skim milk. But if the grocery store is out of it or if I grab the wrong one on accident and I accidentally bring home like a 1% or a 2% or my goodness on the rare occasion that it's actually whole milk. Genevieve is like, okay, twist my arm. Like she wants to drink the skim milk because it's healthier. But also like when the universe. You're not going to be mad at the whole milk, the vitamin D, the acidophilus. Were you a little bit like that while you were watching the game?

No, but you know what I thought was my dad's going to love this because my parents are so weird. They're from that generation that they refuse to drink diet soda. Like they think it's just full of – I mean my dad smokes like three cigars a day. So I don't know why the cigars are okay, but the diet soda is not okurr. Yeah, yeah. But he they're like they were out here a few weeks ago both of them We were making dinner and I was like you want some soda and they're like, what do you have? I was like Diet Coke. They're like absolutely not but they love full sugar soda I mean not love like they don't keep it around but they would they so anyway I thought my dad will really enjoy this Pepsi It's for him. Yeah, you know I would also this is my whole original point is like it's so silly that I would order a large pizza pizza but then get the zero calorie drink as if it's a fat scour as if it somehow goes through and removes the pizza i just ate i mean it's totally nonsensical well i mean i i mean yeah

sort of well like i say first of all some people just prefer the taste of a diet soda also like where do you draw the line on that like then you could just like apply that to your whole life and then you're me then you don't make any smart health decisions because you're like ah it's all I'll wash anyway. You know what I mean? I've been eating poorly all week. Why would I eat a cucumber now?

By the way, I know you don't like it when I mute my microphone, but I'm just telling you. It's loud there. You're really happy I'm muting my microphone. Listen to this.

And this is all your new sound effect machine? This is. I would say lay off it a little bit if it's bothering you. Oh, no, the cat. I'm addicted. They built the cat into the wall.

Yeah, they did. Okay, let's do some music.

What song would you like to play while I'm in my microphone?

I know that you're a Kurt Weill fan, and I'm not trying to scoop you here, but I realize that we're going to be able to do something today. Are you stealing my Philly vibes? We're going to do something today that I don't think we've ever done before in a Music for Your Weekend segment, which is we are going to play a song that's so new it's a mere hours old, Luke. Whoa, just born. Literally dropped today by Kurt Weill. When I got the email this morning, I was like, you know what? Let me take a listen. I took a listen. Of course it's good. It's Kurt Weill. And it's brand new. So let's do it. Let's take a listen to this. This is off of-

Number one, what's the little truck you drive that has the lift on it, the fork? What's that called? A forklift? Number one forklift driver in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, I found out when I interviewed him. He was a forklift driver? For many years, and he was very proud of his forklift driving. Oh, really? He considers himself the best forklift driver in Philadelphia.

I'll bet you there's something to that. I'll bet you, because, I mean, those things whip around. They have the wheels that turn and back, right? Yeah, zero turn. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, anyway, so I got this email today, and I was trying to see if I could look up here what, so he's got a new EP coming out that even the little bit that I read in the press release, and by his own admission, why it's an EP is questionable, because it's as long as a regular album, but I guess it's just like to him it's not an album because it's not cohesive in that way that him as an artist sees it being an album. But it's a super long EP that is, I think, coming out soon. And I believe this is the first single to drop from it. And I don't know the name of the EP, my apologies, but I will share the song with you. It's called Another Good Year for the Roses, which is a reference to the George Jones song, A Good Year for the Roses. And you'll hear him reference that directly here at the beginning. It's quite the song. We'll listen to the first couple of stanzas here.

They said it's been a good year for the roses already So these days I keep it steady on the regular already By the way, everybody knows that was the greatest country song sung by a man possessed like the devil like myself now sing with the man alright He said it's been a good year for the roses already Some others said rock steady But I'm not trying to hear that These days, these days Oh man, these days I do whatever I want Tone out the rest Till something wakes me from a rest Tone out the rest Till something arresting awaits me Tone it out now

There it is. Oh, so good. So very good. I love the end of it. This is a rather long song where he just kind of starts repeating himself over and over at the end, and it just kind of brings in a little bit of that guitar noise, but not too much of it. The name of the EP, by the way, is called Back to Moon Beach by Kurt Vile. That song is Another Good Year for the Roses.

By the way, my music for your weekend also involves Beach, and it's from Philly, which is where Kurt Weill is from. Although, let me just mention on the subject of George Jones. There is a story about George Jones that I think of every time I mow my lawn.

I was going to say, does it involve a lawn mower? You know exactly the story. Yes.

When he was with Tammy Wynette, he unfortunately, I think, had a pretty severe drinking issue. And he would take his keys away. And I think other like luminaries of country music would come over to try to, you know, sort of intervene, intervene. And I don't mean to make light of it because I'm sure it was a very serious thing in the lives of these people. But like, yeah, George Jones apparently would be seen driving down the road in his riding lawnmower to go to the liquor store because, you know, like when Hank Williams Jr. is taking away your keys, you got problems.

I was I don't know if that was a regular thing, but it happened once. I happen to be because I this this this song sent me in a little bit of a rabbit hole today, and I was reading about that story. But, yeah, apparently she would hide his keys and she was out in town and hid the keys to both of their cars. And he there was a quote from his autobiography where he said he was standing there.

looking out the window and then he just saw the gleaming, something about the gleaming lawnmower with the motor under the seat and suddenly he had an idea or something like that.

I am also, as I mentioned, keeping it very much in the city of brotherly love. I would like to play a song from Slaughter Beach Dog, a band that you played years ago on the program. Yeah, speaking of EPs,

I think they had one that I was quasi-obsessed with a while back. I am

more than quasi obsessed with this song it's called engine i believe the text from my daughter this week was let me find it i want to give you the exact she was something like uh if you let me find this okay she said if you're looking for a way to spend nine minutes i got you that was how she sent me this song engine by slaughter beach dog off of the album crying laughing waving smiling And it's very much in the spirit of Kurt Weill It's very much in the spirit of Wilco It's very much in the spirit of the War on Drugs By the way, another, I believe, Pennsylvania band Technically speaking There's something in the water out there Sorry, Andrew, there's something in the wooder There's something in the wooder out there It's not the wooder It's not the wooder That's also a good show title But only if you spell it W-U-O-O-O-D

Oh, not W-U-D-D-E-R

Oh, or maybe that. Maybe that's the spelling. But I'm just trying to match your energy, Andrew. Anyway, there's something in the wooder out there that just makes me love them. And also Dr. Dog is a band from Philly that I'm just madly in love with. I can't believe this. The folks that did the spray foam insulation are leaving, Andrew.

Oh, okay.

Good. That was a mere couple of hours, and they've done it. They've done it again. Amazing. I cannot wait. I mean, this is when you know you're deep in a home remodeling situation is, A, you're podcasting while someone bangs a hammer two feet from your head, and B, you cannot wait to go look at spray foam. Like, it's a Christmas morning for me to go in that house and look at the spray foam. Anyway, I love the music from Philadelphia, including bands such as Slaughter Beach, Dog, which I guess the lead singer was driving through the Northeast and maybe was in, I want to say, either Delaware or somewhere out there. and basically was like saw a sign for something called slaughter beach wanted to name the band slaughter beach but then gorgled it and realized there was already a band called slaughter beach so just added dog to the name so this is uh this is engine by slaughter beach dog

When they stole that van In front of my house There was a part of me tied to the engine Maybe I was the engine Dragging those boys through the desert Tumbleweeds in my hubcaps Tambourines shoved in the drive shack Good chords locked in the glove box Pull it all downstairs in the red light bar On the carpeted stage The ceiling comes down to my ball cap Outside the air weighs a hundred pounds Bridesmaids pour out of the bar doors Everything black but the concrete you take the front seat i'll try to drive it's hard enough how great is that line

about the ceiling almost hitting his ball cap i have i've like been in so many venues like that i just love the specificity of that like when you're young and you're like at a show like union hall in new york or any any kind of basement show where it's like somebody's playing music but it's like too low of a ceiling. And I just, there's something about, anyway, this song is just great to me. If I were to tell you, Andrew, that upon listening to the song on my AirPod Maxes while sitting on the deck, looking at the river, I immediately texted our friend the Stewbot.

and said do you mess with the slaughter beach dog and he goes no but people have been telling me i should i was like listen to this song but i go but like i don't know why i have a lot of colonoscopy on the mind right now i guess i was like like a colonoscopy there is some prep i was like you need to have two beers and you need to either be alone or you need to be in your car by yourself which i guess is another version of alone and he promptly i think went and sat in his parked car and listened to the song and was like yes this is for me so yeah that's really good that's

Very different than what I was listening to a few years ago. I remember it being a little bit, that's very smoothed out, very contemplative. And while Slaughter Beach Dog, I remember playing a song for you and like kind of having to say like, I know you're not going to like the name of this, but trust me, go with me on this. I still don't like the name. But it had more of a, it had more of a bit of a raw feel, whatever I was listening to when I was playing this for you a while back. But I definitely liked that, but that is definitely not what I was expecting. Oh, see, I guess I had sort of spaced on the song that you played, the particular vibe.

So this is, to me, this sounds very much, like I said, in the kind of vibe of the War on Drugs. Yeah, that's why. The Kurt Weill, the Philadelphia Sound. Although, ironically, there is a thing called the Philadelphia Sound, which is a bunch of older soul bands. So I should probably leave that to them.

You know, I could be setting, if you don't mind, we're not in a huge hurry, and sometimes we do this during Music Fair weekend. Can we just go back? This song came out in 2020, and I want to see, maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I remember it being kind of like the voice. Let's just take a listen to this. This was a song called Are You There by Slaughter Beach Dog 2020, it looks like. This may end up sounding exactly the same, and it's just my memory that's bad. I just want to.

Are you there? Did patience wane? Did you fall asleep? To your four-track recording of Rain. Do you feel tame?

Do you feel insane? Is there anyone in the audience currently living in vain?

Yeah.

I guess it does kind of get a little Americana-y here a little bit. I guess that doesn't sound all that different. I mean, that opening is kind of stark sounding, but now that we're into the drums and stuff, I guess it's not that different. Yeah, it is a fuller sound. Okay, I had it more of a, in my memory, it was more stripped down than it apparently is.

Well, I like that also, that song that you reminded me of. So I'm going to do, today I'm going to, the rest of my afternoon looks like filing some Chrome River expenses with CBS. That's why they call me, what's his name?

Johnny, Johnny, Luki Dollar. They call me Luki Dollar. Yours truly, Luki Dollar.

And I'm going to go stare at my spray foam and I'm going to listen to some slaughter beach dog and probably try to cry the stye out of my tear dog. The only way to the only way to clear it is, as I like to say, Andrew, the only way past it is through it.

Tonight might be a Johnny Dollar night for me, actually. I am, of course, looking forward to the fact that I don't have anything on the agenda. And actually, today's like a really good Friday night for me because I always like to keep one, either my Friday night or my Saturday night clear. But my social plans tomorrow are also just like nothing that is creating any anxiety for me. It's big bingo night at the old Eagles Hall.

That when you bring your cat around and let people pet him at the 7-Eleven there on Lake Shitty Way.

Hey, everybody, it's bingo night. And then they call the cops. They're all sad. They're like showing up with their daubers.

And you're just like, no, it's just you get to like admire my cat.

But then they pet him, and they're like, yeah, he is kind of cool. Yeah, that's actually kind of rules. But, no, yeah, so that's kind of a good weekend for me. So I get to start with, like, kind of a chill Friday night. I will do some heavy puttering, which is different than heavy petting, in case you're curious. I'll do some heavy puttering.

That's more bingo night than heavy petting.

While listening to old radio dramas and maybe playing a match or two against Dark Bot, who is kind of unrelenting.

You know, I might have a Dreamland night myself on this Friday. Oh, nice. We have a big LiveWire event tomorrow night at Rev Hall in Portland. And now it's Fancy Pants. It's our big fundraiser. Oh, that sounds like a work. All strapped in. Oh, it is. It very much is. And if I don't show up, they don't pay me. So I will be there in a tuxedo. But tonight, Andrew, I might just have to get my dreamland on. Because Walt has finally returned to his homeland with my mom. It's actually very cute. Like, he loves being down here. I get the sense. And, you know, it's a great time. but he really misses my mom. It's just, it's pretty adorable. Like, and the way that they talk on the phone and how I can tell he's like trying to help me because he knows that I need help down here, but also not wanting to kind of, you know, be.

away from my mom like it's pretty freaking cute after four decades of plus of them being married

but anyway you know i kind of didn't realize that and i mean i'm a specifically reclusive kind of person um so that's the diagnosis it might what's what's that specifically reclusive

specifically reclusive that that's what they've diagnosed you with but you've essentially had

sort of a housemate or a roommate the past how long two weeks maybe not a full two weeks a week

But then, like, it's been, like, two of the last three weeks, basically, with a little break in between.

Okay, yeah, so now you kind of get the house to yourself a little bit. You can enjoy the insulation.

I can stare at the insulation.

I can listen to Dreamland.

Love it. Not bad. That sounds great. Let's hear something else that sounds great, which is the musical suggestion from listener Chris. Chris says, hey, dudes, I ran across this quasi-newish song the other day, and I thought Andrew would dig it. It's really super-serving your P1.

We'll see.

It's like a throwback. But wait, let me continue reading, Andrew, because when you hear what I'm about to read, you're going to be like, yes, indeed. It's a throwback to being in college in the 90s and listening to some of the woman-fronted rock bands that were around back then. Strong four-non-blondes, belly and Elastica vibes.

Oh, interesting. You know, it's funny. Just moments ago, let's see, at 11.30, it's 11.45 right now, I got an email from Ticketmaster, which I just don't like getting emails from Ticketmaster. Important instructions for your upcoming Breeders Belly concert, which I'm going to next Wednesday. Yeah, but, like, why? The Ticketmaster app is one of the worst in the world, and I use NPR One. Yeah. Catch a stray NPR. But, like, already the app is really confusing, especially for, like, the way it integrates with the ballpark app. You're never sure where your tickets are if you're going to a game or whatever, but it's like, okay, this is a rock show. I bought the tickets forever. but now it says three simple steps to use your new safe ticks event day like i can tell you already this is not simple like it won't let me log in probably and then it'll tell me i have to change my password and then like i don't know why ticket master it's like are they just are they just trolls at this point are they just trying to make our lives miserable yes they are i'm sick of it

it's to make another like the claw reference this week they are the bad guy from inspector gadget They are sitting there, they are petting a cat, they are on an island that is shaped like a human skull. They are just absolutely the worst.

You know, I gotta-

But I'm excited to hear you're going to see Belly, is it Belly and Throwing Muses?

No, The Breeders.

The Breeders and Belly, does Tanya Donnelly just change outfits in between? How does this work?

Tanya- Isn't she in both of those bands? She was on the first Breeders record, but I don't think she was on the second Breeders record, so I'm not even, Yeah, so I – no, no, no, no, no, no. She was in Throwing Muses. She was never on a – I don't think she was ever on a Breeders record. But there was a lot of, like, kind of cross-pollination during that time. She might have been on pod.

Is it the Deal Sisters that are the Breeders?

The Breeders are the Deal Sisters, yeah, which is interesting because the Pixies were also – or maybe touring now, touring now, but without Kim, which is kind of interesting and kind of sad. Or kind of bums me out a little bit. But I was going to say one thing about Ticketmaster. so I bought these tickets when you and me and John were doing the fundraiser and we were staying in Polsbo so that was a while back and then I got one reminder about a week and a half ago saying don't forget your concert's coming up I'm like yeah okay I got it on the calendar thanks Ticketmaster but then I got a pop up on my phone through the app about three days ago saying you can sell your tickets if you want to like Ticketmaster is now like encouraging

people who are stub hubbing you

yeah they're like we can help you just set your price and sell your tickets i'm like i don't want to sell my tickets like it's so i don't know man i

don't know what's going on no it's gross and also i promise you if you sold those tickets through ticket master or live nation or whatever the heck they call themselves they would take such a substantial cut of that yeah i mean that's one of the things that's crazy you know these stories go around about these taylor swift tickets and these bruce springsteen tickets and all that being you know thousands of dollars and certainly the people that are selling a ticket for seven thousand dollars are getting a significant amount of money but a lot of times you know the reason that the ticket price is so jacked is because of like ticket master taking their pound of flesh yeah and

immediately selling out so that everybody can sell it on the third party or they also own which

they also own right it's just allowing allowing people to basically poach all these tickets so that then they can go jump on stub hub or whatever and then also ticket master gets paid again it's a It's a truly amazing system that I think really breeds, and I think I have the word breed in my mind because of the breeders. It really helps facilitate, it really throws some muses, Andrew. It really feeds some trees. It feeds a fed tree. All right, so here's what listener Chris had to say about. the Belly and Elastica and Four Non Blondes vibes of this. The band is called Bully and it's featuring Soccer Mommy. Oh! Do you know this band? Have you played this band? A long time ago I played something by Bully. I'm quite sure, I'm not a hundred percent, but I'm pretty sure that I'm somewhat familiar with this. I feel like Soccer Mommy might also be, and I don't want to frame people based on who their parents are, but I'm semi remembering that Soccer Mommy is actually Kevin Kline and Phoebe Cates' Oh, okay. Child, which, again, doesn't define the person, but that's, I think, where Soccer Mommy resides in my mind. Anyway, point is, this is a song by Bully. It's featuring Soccer Mommy. It's suggested by Chris. And it's how we're going to wrap up this week of broadcasting. So, thanks to everybody for listening. Thanks for being part of TBTL. We're going to be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you, so please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great weekend. I love just going out on a strong construction vibe. I'll be in my house staring at spray foam if you need me. In the meantime, we'll see you on Monday. Please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

We'll be right back. To know you's a dream that I'm lucky to be at the chicken And older it hurt, but I told you cause I'm home

Barely moving, I'm still here

happy friday sons of we got another weekend to attend we can go out there and pretend like we don't got a job for two whole days power out