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#4060 Go Big And Go Home
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#4060 Go Big And Go Home

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

October 24, 2023 | 01:10:27 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke discovers someone from Andrew's past making waves in online communities. Plus, the music of Creed seems to be popular in more and more professional locker rooms, which is a twist nobody saw coming.
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They said, you know what, we need to have a third interview with you because the notes from the social worker is that you seem anxious, high-strung, and eccentric. Yeah, that's what I do.

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That's the cornerstone. It's the business plan. TBTL!

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I was really good pizza.

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Oh, this is the best pizza in a cup ever. This guy's unbelievable. He ran the old cup of pizza guy out of business. People come from all over to get this.

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Well, I just wanted to say a friendly hello in an unfriendly way.

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Hello.

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It's the story of a man with a brothel of a home and a pool filled with human excrement.

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Would you say that to Tom Petty? You wouldn't say that to Tom Petty, would you?

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all right hello good morning and welcome everybody to a tuesday edition of tbt all the show that just might be too beautiful to live it's all voodoo nonsense as far as this cast concerned my name

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is luke burbank i am your host i'm a professional look it up in the book coming to you from the

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madrona hill studio first high above the mighty columbia where we are dealing with a very wet day here. Didn't know you like to get wet, though. It's bound to happen. It's fall. It's the Pacific Northwest. I should really check the weather forecast before I drive down to town and do one of my little jogs. It was a quite wet experience today, but here we are. It's nice and dry. We've arrived at episode 4060 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Nice and dry here in the studio, that is. Although, between the banging of hammers that's going on in the in my house where the drywall is going in you may also be hearing the occasional sound of classic rock music playing amazingly loud smoke the world with the rock and roll good deal like ear shatteringly loud the guy that's you wonder who's keeping the like kind of 91 to the brew who's keeping those radio stations in business it's dudes hanging sheetrock tell you what brought in his own speaker covered it in plastic and it's like not a small it's like a it's like a pa speaker that you would like set up at a at a wedding or a bar mitzvah and it's just it's like i had to go in the house to get some more coffee and it was my ears were almost bleeding from how hard metallica was rocking in there so uh listen for that throughout the program oh speaking of music There was a couple big sporting events last night The Minnesota Vikings won on Monday Night Football The Texas Rangers advanced to the World Series But the real winner last night The real winner

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I'm in it to win it

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Is apparently the music of Creed Will explain what that's all about Also, somebody from Andrew's distant past Has resurfaced on the internet The past is history The future is a mystery I want to talk about that with him And if you have been obsessively raking your leaves There are some naturalists who would basically say

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I would say can you please stop doing this stuff

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And speaking of my friend Andrew Walsh He's trying to do one of those last minute things you know Where like you're about to go on a trip He's going to Ohio And you try to just like work out really hard Just kind of like get yourself Get that Ohio bod going

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Just basically just crossfit my life away Get as ripped and jacked as I possibly could

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And he's joining me right now from amidst his crossfitting his life away. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke.

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You know how they say nobody wants to hear about your dream?

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Oh, except can I tell you about the dream I had last night?

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Well, I was just going to say they say they don't want to hear about your dreams unless like you appear in the dream. It's like, oh, you had a dream about me. OK, I will hear that. I feel very similarly to your show intros. Not about me. Not about me. Not about me. And then you get to the part where somebody from my distant past shows up online. I have no idea what you're talking about. And suddenly I'm interested. Suddenly I'm here for the show.

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Yes. That's all I have to do. You're like a cat. And me talking about someone from your past is a laser pointer. I just got your attention. Can I chase this person? Can I chase him up a wall? Very briefly, I want to tell you that the dream that I had last night was that I was touring with the band Passion Pit. who had a real moment a couple of years ago. I don't know why that was in my brain, but what had happened really was I had eaten some very delicious but very salty potatoes that I made last night called melting potatoes. I sent you a picture. That's how proud I was. Yeah, that's not the dream. That's in real life.

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You ate the potatoes.

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I ate the potatoes in real life.

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But not unlike Scrooge, who I believe says to one of the specters, you're a bit of bad potato I had last night. I had I salted the living tweedle out of these things. I was so thirsty while I was sleeping that my dream was I'm touring with the band Passion Pit, but I keep stealing their water. I kept every time someone would leave a glass of water unattended or a water bottle. I would be like drinking it down, hoping nobody in the band Passion Pit noticed it.

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And did anybody notice it? Did you get caught?

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I didn't get caught. I actually luckily woke up. You know how they say, you know, if you have a dream, you're falling off a cliff, you have to wake up before you hit the ground. I woke up before I had to sing the first song because what I also realized was I don't know the words. I know the like, I take a walk, take. I know maybe like.

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I didn't know that you were performing. I thought you were just with the band trying to take the water. I was the lead singer of Passion Pit. Oh, okay. Sorry. If you said that you were the lead singer, I bled over. I just said I was in Passion Pit. Oh, okay. You know me.

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If I'm going to dream that I'm in passion, I'm not dreaming I'm the bass player. Come on, dude.

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Oh, my God. I just dreamt that I ruined somebody's game. I remember there was some game going on between three people, and they'd been playing for nine hours, and they could only drop this birdie three times. And I showed up, and they dropped it for the second time, and I said, ha, ha. And then somebody said, why are you being such a dick? And then I laid down next to their little court area, and then I somehow ruined the game, and everybody was mad at me because the birdie. Wait a second. This is a dream I just had last night. They were, like, trying to play with this birdie. Then the birdie landed near me, and they were like, you were sitting. We've been playing for nine hours, and you ruined the game by sitting too close to the edge. And I was like, your game is stupid. Like, I was just, like, so headstrong about it. I'm like, it's a stupid game anyway, and if it's a big deal, just play again.

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I don't think there's a clearer distinction between how we regard ourselves than my dream was I'm the lead singer of Passion Pit. and your dream was I ruined it for someone.

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I did ruin it for someone. The weird thing is I wasn't apologetic. I was just like, whatever, the game is stupid. I literally told them that their game was stupid and that they'd been playing for nine hours and they were wasting their time. I was a real jerk in my dream, I'm not going to lie.

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Okay, but I'm down for that. That's you processing things because that's so not how you are in real life. I think you've got to let that steam out somewhere. It's just as well you're doing it in the dream world. Yeah, better than in the real world. Exactly. That's for dang sure. Well, I'm curious how you'll feel about this.

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I'm really, I'm a little bit nervous here. I honestly have no idea what you're about to spring on me.

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Honestly, this is way too, this is going to be sort of a long climb for a short slide. Oh, okay. And maybe even a complicated slide. Like that one in Boston where that cop flew off it and got his head hurt. Did you see that video?

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Oh, yeah, sliding backwards, right? Yeah, right. But see, like, okay, can I just tell you what's going, do you want to drag this on for a second? Can I just tell you what's going on with me emotionally as you get ready to tell me that somebody from my distant past, as I believe you said in your intro, popped up online somewhere. That's literally all I know. Actually, I'm super intrigued to know where this goes. You've tried to temper my expectations a little bit, which I appreciate.

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Temper them even lower than you've tempered them too, because I feel like I've made a huge mistake. I built this up to be way more than it did.

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Well, let me build it up more, because I was also thinking like, if this is somebody who I haven't thought about or interacted with in truly a long, long time. But if they're aware of this show and you're going to spring a name on me and I'm going to have to react to them in a way that I know that they're listening, that could cause them trouble.

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They are not listening to this show. Okay, all right.

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Well, that's where I was. Now tell me where I should be.

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I happened to see this little video on TikTok the other day of this woman who was opening a sushi shop in Manhattan somewhere. And I think this video was kind of getting, it was making the rounds because I think it probably represented as sort of a bit of a dream life for people. This woman is Australian, I think, originally. She had been a corporate lawyer. And the kind of video was like of a little kind of time lapse of her renting this space and with the help of some handy men kind of building out the restaurant and learning how to roll sushi. And she says something along the lines of, you know, I was eating sushi at lunch every day, and I wanted to get really good sushi, and I didn't want it to cost a lot. And so I decided I would just be the person who makes that. so she's got this little sushi shop and again it's very kind of amelie it's it's just it's the kind of thing that gets big on tiktok because it seems like a pretty a pretty cool little endeavor to to to open up your dream spot now i'll mention something this woman is caucasian she's not asian and so the video goes around and it's very cute to some people i guess and because she's she's opening this shop and then a different section of the internet gets a hold of it and uh decides that it's appropriation because this person is uh is caucasian that them making sushi and opening a sushi place is is um appropriation and so then there was a bunch of people that were all kind of sort of coming for the sushi shop and to the point where the sushi shop shut down its TikTok and I think some of its other socials. And then there were people coming for the people coming for the sushi shop. And in the midst of all, the person who, I don't know where things have landed. I think things have kind of ironed themselves out, which is the internet, you know, people pick their sides and people either eat the sushi or not eat the sushi. Life goes on. But the person who was in North Carolina, surprisingly to me, who decided to kind of highlight this and call this out as appropriation. And it would seem to sort of work pretty hard to try to end this person's little business endeavor. Is my Aunt Louise. Is the guy who ruined your Thanksgiving, Eric Rivera.

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Did that pay off? Of course it is. That guy is always trouble. That guy is always trouble. When he's not ruining Thanksgiving,

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he's getting up pretty early to try to try to get rid of somebody's sushi dreams i don't even know

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where to begin if people are not familiar with the story but he was a chef kind of a much lauded

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chef around here who continues to be he's a real sort of not around here though he's a micro media darling though you know what i mean like when he moves to a new town now he's in north carolina he sets up his little operation reminds me of the ballad of buster scruggs and the the little the little you know show that would little carriage that would come through town and they'd put on a show it's like he pops up somewhere starts doing his little thing and and seems to get a little

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attention around where he is but he's all yeah and he was like featured on some hulu show like a while back like he always is he's really good at self-promotion and the funny thing is again how small of a world it is the reason he was a focus on this podcast is because he ran this sort of like kind of pop up esque restaurant where he was doing like a pop up Thanksgiving meal for people during the pandemic where you could come and pick up this nice meal. You know, it wasn't cheap, but it was, you know, kind of a nice thing to do for me and Vives because we're spending Thanksgiving, just the two of us during the pandemic. But when I showed up at the appropriate time to pick up our food the night before, it was a total shit show, a line around the block confusion. They ended up sending everybody home and like wrote down our names on like a piece of paper and said we're going to have it delivered to you and we're like that doesn't sound right we waited around all of thanksgiving the delivery never showed up we ended up ordering food from a chinese restaurant i think or a thai restaurant and then when we you know what was the ethnicity of people who made that endeavored to get our money back uh and also like sort of see what people were saying online about this he was incredulous he was rude he did not i mean he did not properly apologize uh certainly not to us directly i mean veves and i whatever we're a couple without kids we didn't have anybody relying on us it was all fine but it was just like the rudeness of this person it turns out he's always controversial in some way i was talking to a newspaper reporter for the seattle times who's a restaurant reporter and food reporter there and he was telling me how he moved over to the east coast what was creating he didn't say this is i think before this particular controversy that you're talking about but um this person who i will keep as anonymous as possible for now this reporter said that as soon as he moved across the country here heard that eric was already causing trouble in like that food community and then the really small worldiness of it is uh not too long less than a year after he quote unquote ruined our thanksgiving we showed up at our friend's wedding and the rehearsal dinner and who was the chef who was in charge of all the food it was chef rivera yes did the food that food materialized though right that food did and of course so my my friends it was your thanksgiving weirdly it was an old turkey leg in the back it was so strange everybody raved about the food i thought it was um a little salty honestly i was kind of surprised but uh these people who got married were like real foodies and kind of fancy people in that way and they were friends with him they were kind of in the community but yeah it's just amazing and also turns out like his mom is good friends with my friends mom and they would take daily walks or something together it's a tiny world yet somehow that guy's always creating it i i do not hold him in very high esteem i i you know i don't know very much

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about him other than i'm still incensed about your thanksgiving dinner being ruined and there not being a proper level of customer service or aftercare if you will he acted like and then i just thought it was funny that it was like the person shit stirring over somebody's little sushi dreams i want to point out it's not like this woman was wearing a kimono right yeah like she's in yoga like well i don't know is that is that appropriation she's wearing yoga pants i mean it's like where do you draw the line can i don't this is probably not i don't really even want to get into a conversation about appropriation because as two white dudes it's we're the last people they need to weigh in on them yeah the substance of that conversation i just think it was kind of it was notable to me that it was the grinch who ruined andrews and genevieve's Thanksgiving and I will never let that go andrew i will never forget and for me well i mean that's a shorthand way of putting it but just for the record like we're fine you know it was just it was the whole experience was just so galling to us and and it was his response that's why it feels so personal to me it's not like oh boohoo like you know like did we have a our thanksgiving ended up being fine we had good food that we ordered somewhere else and we had laughs about it i i took a i took a photo of my empty plate and posted it to my yelp review of his restaurant oh by the way that's still

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that's still inactive that's a florid community down there because you know me i'm a catty little bitch who loves the drama i'm like going on yelp trying to figure out like if what his what the

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latest steez is with this oh did you see my old yelp review you mean i got i saw other people's

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yelp basically there was the community of people who didn't get their thanksgiving meals that day really came together on Yelp to write, as Genevieve would put it, the Yelp review of a lifetime.

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I'm trying to log into my, I don't, you'll be surprised to hear I don't log into my Yelp very often. I'm trying to see if I can find my review, but we don't have to do that. We don't have to go back and read my social media posts if you don't want to.

00:16:05 - 00:18:01 | Speaker 1:

I deleted a social media post from last night, which is not unusual for me, but it had to do with, with sports and maybe, you know what, let's just, we could, we could just kind of jump right into the whole the the moment that creed is having right now um so last night the texas rangers uh advance to the world series they beat the houston astros a team that again i love love love people from houston but i uh have a lot of problems with that team and and they've also just dominated everyone they've had a very very good few years i don't feel bad for them not making it to the world series and also this is not a reflection on the team but it is to me somewhat ironic that their their stadium used to be called enron field that just feels like a cursed place to me and that one of their players credibly called julio rodriguez a homophobic slur um after striking him out that did not endear the team to me more or that they have this kind of nutcase mattress king mattress mac who's just always going around betting like eight billion dollars on the astros and because they've just been so good lately he's always like coming out on top now By the way, the reports are that this Mattress Mac guy is actually a pretty nice dude. Like, I think when there have been some natural disasters, he's opened his mattress stores, his furniture stores for people to stay in, which I think is a nice gesture. It's more than Joel Osteen did, the past mega pastor in Houston. So but I so I kind of put a more snarky, more pointed Instagram post than I normally would kind of poking at poking at Houston fans, kind of saying what I just said to you. Like, my heart is just absolutely broken for this team. And then I listed my kind of list of grievances. And people were, you know, I was wondering what the response would be. But the other thing was, there's probably a way to just post text on Instagram, but I don't know what that way is. So I tried to just find a picture of Mattress Mac. And there was famously a point where Mattress Mac got really mad at someone. I think it was in a previous postseason when his team was losing and he had bet all this money.

00:18:01 - 00:18:04 | Speaker 2:

Oh, is that what you posted to the text chain?

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Yeah, he's yelling, Mattress Mac is yelling F-U to these fans from another team, which is very un-Mattress Mac. So I sent that picture to our text chain, and I was like, well, I have to put a photo up so I can write underneath it. Now, again, I don't think I have to do that, but I don't know a lot about Instagram. So I just used that photo because I'm endlessly fascinated with this Mattress Mac character. but then uh i realized when i went back and looked at it this morning that it looked like i was saying f like because there's f you is sort of f asterisk asterisk asterisk or whatever on the picture and i i realized it looked like maybe i was trying to say that like f you to i wouldn't i would stop short of saying f you to astros fans or no yeah i don't really post profanity so i took it down because i was like i don't think people really understand who that might potentially not

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understand who the joke is on here yeah i didn't when you posted that to the text chain which is a text chain about sports i had no idea who it was or why i thought i was missing a text which i've been having some issues with group texts lately so i was like oh i'm missing something here

00:19:04 - 00:19:25 | Speaker 1:

no that was just my personal fascination with this guy mattress mac and the one time when he like deeply lost his cool with people i think it was during last year's postseason so i took that post down so if you were one of the people commenting on it and you saw that i took it down it's not about you it's about people maybe not understand i just don't like to post things that seem overly aggressive or profane. It's not really my move.

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I mean, as much as I, even as much as I have been, I've been pretty ruthless with my feelings towards the Astros, more than I think any other team, with the exception of, you know, I guess the Browns, because I feel like a spurned sports lover there. Ew. But, sorry. But anyway, but even I would never just be like, F you, like after a loss. Like, that's not how we talk about these things.

00:19:52 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 1:

Exactly. Now, how we sing about these things, Andrew, if you're the Texas Rangers is with the music of Creed, I guess.

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this song is this i don't i'm always a little confused if the song is called can you take me higher or if it's just called higher it's confusing there's also a damn yankee song can you take me higher yeah that's what i started thinking and fly me over yesterday yeah i guess the creed song is just called higher for whatever that's worth thank you for the clarification so um i had seen a note about this that the the official postseason song for the texas rangers is Creed Hire. And last night, after they had won this dramatic Game 7, was no exception. They're doing this little pro forma interview, and then suddenly song breaks out in the background.

00:20:36 - 00:20:47 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, I've never seen it before where all the teams were, I mean, where we were back and forth winning out on the road. So, I mean, for us to be able to come back and hear it, it was a lot. Go sing with your team. Thank you.

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so that's the texas rangers celebrating now the other big winners last night were the minnesota vikings um you know who won on monday night football they beat the 49ers and kirk cousins their quarterback was interviewed after the game about what the secret to their win was and would you believe, Andrew? He said the music of Creed, the song Higher. Now, the audio is kind of funky at first here. I don't think they had the mic switched on. I spent far too much time this morning trying to find the cleanest recording of this. This was from the NFL Network. This is about as good as it gets, but he's sort of talking about the song Higher at the beginning. There's a few

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clicks. And I got to say it, you know, Creed, I mean, I'm getting my ankles taped pregame because I try to get them taped as late as possible, and I'm sitting there on the table, and suddenly it comes on, and Garrett Bradbury's doing some body work next to me, and he goes, forget this, I've got to go enjoy this with the boys. So he then gets up and goes in the locker room, and I get my ankles taped, and we go in there, and it's just really good morale. And then we go to pray in the corner of the locker room, and then you guys would want to pray, and we go praying over here. So we had to turn the creed off, and Harrison Smith made a great point. He said, guys, this is the prayer. And I thought, that's pretty good. So, yeah, we'll keep playing. But they keep playing higher, and I'm going, Creed has a lot of hits. They got a good catalog. We don't have to only play higher, but they're taking us higher, so we'll take it.

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So, big night for the music of Creed.

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Yes, and I'm looking this up, too, because I was just trying to do a little bit of triangulation here. I was like, maybe, is he a Rangers fan? But I see that even, again, these are your colleagues, Luke, at CBS Sports. You know all your colleagues over at CBS Sports? Thank you. posted um a week ago it looks like that minnesota vikings qb kirk cousins takes page out of texas rangers book by playing creed during pregame shows so apparently this wasn't even breaking last night although this is all new to me um apparently this has been an ongoing thing with

00:22:56 - 00:24:39 | Speaker 4:

him as well it's really funny to see this song kind of have its you know sort of its moment to come back and i think it's probably generational it's that the song is has sort of soaring you know melodies it's that it's got some pretty it's pretty singable it's got the word higher in it but i i watch this space i think this is going to be like the who let the dogs out of 2023 like it's going to be you're going to start hearing this in more and more locker rooms i think it's just it's been just long enough there's enough young people that don't have the creed baggage that a lot of us had and and i've said this before on the show many times when i started doing tbtl i i like my entire personality was crapping on the band creed which i have now in my older years in these last few years of my life andrew uh in these final years i've realized that it's like that down there's just no reason to yuck anyone's yum and like who cares and like you know people can like whatever they like there's even a whole song about that here on this yes there is so i'm not here to like i'm not i'm not here to roast them uh i come not to roast creed andrew but to just kind of go huh interesting like there's probably a bunch of 24 year old kids that grew up and they didn't know that it was a whole personality in the like maybe early-ish 2000s mid you know 2005 where if you were quote unquote cool it was cool to kind of make fun of creed like they missed that whole memo and they're just dousing each other in freezing cold budweiser and singing their little patooties off they're just icing they're just ice broing each other icing bros you know the number The number one thing that happens in those champagne or beer celebrations is no one's ready for how cold the beer is going to be when you pour it on yourself.

00:24:39 - 00:24:41 | Speaker 3:

In the clubhouse, you mean after the big wins? In the clubhouse.

00:24:41 - 00:24:50 | Speaker 4:

You need to get all that visqueened up the entire clubhouse like Dexter or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we're either going to celebrate the ALCS or kill someone, and they'll never catch us.

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Splatters. Right? Trying to capture the splatters. That reminds me of something funny I saw yesterday. Wait, let me caveat this. It's not funny. In fact, it's not even interesting.

00:25:00 - 00:26:35 | Speaker 1:

But you, you are the one person who might find it somewhat interesting. Well, then, you know what? You're talking to the right co-bro. Exactly. Yesterday's show, which, by the way, I was surprised when I went back to the tape how much it did sound like I was just in my regular studio. I thought for yesterday's show was such a trip for me, being like out of my studio, using this like kind of somewhat temporary road gear, you know, testing things out. I thought, I assumed the show was going to sound drastically different, and it just sounded like a show of TBTL where I was just slightly more distracted than usual. Anyway, I mentioned that I was, you know, looking out the window at my neighbor, who's a carpenter, who we hired to fix our deck or kind of extend our deck. Is he a carpenter with a lot of crazy ideas? He is. He most certainly is. Something about aliens. actually i do have a neighbor with a lot of crazy ideas and he's been telling me about the voices that he's heard three times in his life and is this the neighbor who's kicked off the yes neighborhood email chain he earlier this summer was telling me about a haunted house in our neighborhood and it took me a second to realize he was not joking at all and then yesterday or the day before he was telling me about the voice that he hears in his head it's not voices but he has heard a voice three times same voice in his life twice this voice saved his life because it told him not to go when the light turned green in traffic and if he had he would have died in an accident the first time he heard this voice he was still in the military and the voice told him that somebody had shot the president and it happened the moment that Kennedy was shot that's one of my very close

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neighbors wow that's that's kind of interesting it's an interesting development because I know that you were kind of you were sort of my sense is keeping this person you know being neighborly to them but keeping them more or less at arms you kind of have to yes because of what you'd kind of heard about some sort of not great stuff that this person had contributed to the neighborhood discourse yes exactly but then you start to hear stories like that and you start to say you start to wonder what is this person's sort of level of mental health right yeah and i mean i have a

00:27:06 - 00:28:43 | Speaker 1:

feeling that these are long-held beliefs he's he's a definitely an odd cookie he's one of those guys who's kind of like well it's kind of it's kind of interesting to have a neighbor like that but also it's a you know give a crazy mouse a crazy cookie scenario where you definitely got a where you got to hold people you got to keep them a little bit at arm's length because if you give him a conversational thread he will pull your whole sweater apart you know what i mean like it's just one of those situations having said that what was i going to say oh the the fellow who's actually working on our deck the carpenter who's built houses and stuff um he uh is probably finishing up today he's very close yesterday he put on i guess you would call it the banister this kind of top handrail of the new part of the deck and then he left he had an appointment he left uh and i thought he was done for the day around three o'clock or whatever and then around 5 30 i saw him pull up to our house now this is where a normal person would have just opened the door and said hey seth how you doing what are you doing but i didn't really feel like engaging but i saw him come back to our house while i was quickly locked the door loudly and i slammed a window um and then for some reason i pushed my butt up against the glass which was that was strange it was really strange but it honestly it felt great um but uh i was gonna say that he came back very briefly in the early evening and he just he brought this plastic wrap stuff and and some sort of clingy like saran wrappy looking tape and he kind of put he protected just one part of this handrail with some plastic material but he didn't do it for any of the other handrail stuff and i can't figure out why is it wood it's all wood but it's all wood some of it did you see him with a

00:28:43 - 00:28:48 | Speaker 2:

with a with a stain brush out maybe some of it waterproofed and some of it not that's what i'm

00:28:48 - 00:28:55 | Speaker 1:

trying to figure out because we're the ones who are going to like seal it and stain it and waterproof when i say we're the ones there's a chance that i will be in cleveland when genevieve does it but

00:28:55 - 00:29:10 | Speaker 2:

that was not intentional um but in advance of the halloween party oh by the way oh yeah that's i'm stoked uh i'm stoked for for veeves because you know veeves and i are have pretty much the same brain in that we're both very attracted to you and i love that that that's going to be done

00:29:10 - 00:29:49 | Speaker 1:

in time for the halloween part yeah well that and that's the one thing though i actually kind of like staining decks i have fond memories of helping my dad stain a big deck like back when i was in college and listening to public radio and kind of getting to know some of those you've that big deck energy i really i really do no that is not a show title by the way um how about we put it on the pole should the show title be big deck energy um but uh anyway uh yeah unfortunately i will probably be out of town because genevieve needs to get that work done before the party so unfortunately like it's a little bit crunch time with the finishing of this deck but then also getting it sealed in time for the shindig are you coming up here for the shindig i don't think that

00:29:49 - 00:30:11 | Speaker 2:

after all of that after me i you might be shocked to hear that when i very drunkenly said i'm coming for halloween i am not i was not good for my word because Because I it's it's just a little bit of a schlep, you know, but I'm it sounds like it's going to be fun. And I'm going to be doing I'm going to be in Portland, but but probably not in Seattle, unfortunately.

00:30:11 - 00:30:24 | Speaker 1:

No, I mean, that makes sense. I mean, coming up that making travel plans that far for a party, it raises questions about then like you got to stay up here or whatever. It's a complicated thing. I mean, you're talking to me who's not a super motivated social person.

00:30:24 - 00:33:23 | Speaker 2:

But no, I dig that. This is the mode that I'm in with this remodel is I'm going, OK, it's like it's. one night hotel in Seattle. It's very probably a trip to Goldie's it's, it's, it's like, you know, Sunday is it's just lost. So I'm just kind of like limp, Becca and I are limping back down to points South. And, you know, again, this is probably being 47, but it's like, you kind of do all of the math on that and you go, maybe I'll just, maybe we'll just stick around here. It would have been a time when I was younger and I've been like, of course a Halloween party. And like, you know, I, with all my friends I do miss everybody up there. Hopefully, when this is all done here, I will actually have a little more mobility because I won't be, well, first of all, spending every dollar I've ever made in my life. And some I haven't, Andrew, on this thing. And also, I won't feel like I need to be here just constantly supervising the guys that are getting the lead out currently. I don't, well, I thought I was being really nice this morning because there's no heat in the house. And it was pretty cold last night once the sun went down. And so I have one of those big, like, it's a Ryobi, Andrew, which our friend television's Chris Hayes will be happy to know. We've now identified, based on color, as that kind of almost neon green. But it's one of those big heaters that you use for a construction site. Oh, yeah. They also used to use those on the sidelines of NFL games. I think they probably have a better technology now. But don't you remember on the frozen tundra in the, like, 70s and 80s, you'd just see those big kind of cannon-shaped things just with the orange glow just blasting Walter Payton with heat? So I have one of those. And this morning when I got up, well, first of all, on the subject of construction folks and their schedules, and kind of it's an interesting thing. Here's the one part of doing construction that I would do well with. There seems to be no fixed schedule. I would do bad with the physicality of the work. I might do poorly with what would feel sometimes like some tedium. But what I could really get into is the fact that there appears to be absolutely no rhyme or reason to when anyone shows up or leaves or is here, is not here. I mean, the good news is the work's getting done. Particularly, these drywall guys are amazing. They knocked out the entire ceiling yesterday in like three hours. Oh, wow. Which is crazy. I mean, there's a fairly big open space in there. So I'm not really complaining about the work output, but like yesterday They got here at about 10 the morning and this morning. I was like I got up I was kind of working on my computer, but I was also my bedroom is the has like a heater in it So it's become this little cocoon So I kind of didn't really want to leave my cocoon of heat because the rest of the house is freezing cold And I thought let me just let me just put on some clothes Let me put on my running gear and let me go start the coffee because and this is it's like 7 a.m. It's like even 645 because i'm like because i don't really actually like they were here at 10 yesterday but these

00:33:23 - 00:34:05 | Speaker 2:

guys are you never know and sure enough i'm downstairs and by like 7 a.m the dude's rolling in and i was like well thank god i wasn't just upstairs sleeping or you know in the shower or something but um what i was going to say is i turned on that ryobi heater that actually runs on a propane tank man that thing the bt use of that thing pumps so i warmed up the whole main house area pretty quickly with it. And then the guy walked in and I was kind of proud of myself because I was like, yeah, I warmed it up for you. He goes, oh, I have a medical condition where I sweat a lot. So actually this is too warm for me. I was like, okay, I gotcha. I feel you. I'll turn it off now. Here I am thinking I'm being a real pal and I was actually making it worse for the

00:34:05 - 00:34:36 | Speaker 1:

guy. Speaking of early morning work and kind of a reminder also of the cushiness of my own job, uh we had a refrigerator delivered by the fine folks at home depot you mean home depot home depot yes we're usually lowe's people as we discuss uh on the show but no this was a this was a home depot success so um shout out to listener lauren right lauren works for home depot are they right in fact i think we're going to be hearing from lauren later on in the show

00:34:36 - 00:34:41 | Speaker 2:

i'm just trying to find my refrigerator drop and i can't find it it's a killing

00:34:41 - 00:34:49 | Speaker 1:

I mean, I do have that one.

00:34:49 - 00:34:50 | Speaker 2:

Stop it. Everybody calm down.

00:34:51 - 00:35:30 | Speaker 1:

Now, were you looking for a refrigerator or were you looking for butter? Because I think butter is going to get you the refrigerator, right? Oh, that's a really good... It's like, I come to your house, I steal your butter. But it's like, see, it's buried in this. I will come to your house. Yeah, there it is. I will go to your refrigerator. Fridge, fridge, your refrigerator. You know that for the rest of my life, I will never hear the word. And I have to purchase a new refrigerator at some point. Literally, I'm in Home Depot, Andrew, not to brag. And the guy is, I'm asking about various refrigerators. And the Home Depot guy is just telling me about them. And every time he says refrigerator, I'm just like, all I can hear is that pronunciation.

00:35:30 - 00:37:51 | Speaker 2:

Yep, yep. Vives and I, same in our house. We can't say the word refrigerator without, like, stumbling through it like that refrigerator. Anyway, Genevieve did, as you will not be shocked to hear, did all of the work in finding and purchasing a refrigerator, refrigerator, and then coordinating the delivery. And we ended up kind of lucking out because Genevieve had to go to work the day it was being delivered. delivered and there was a chance it could have shown up during the show i should oh i did tell you i think i even gave you a heads up that that could be the case um but luckily they ended up giving us a window of well they gave us a window of like said sometime between 7 a.m and noon i think or something like that or maybe 7 and 11 or something i was like all right uh and we're kind of hoping we get the early end of that because maybe it would show up before genevieve even left for work around 8 or 8 30 or something um and that's exactly what happened we got a phone call at 6 45 in the morning saying hey you guys still ready for a 7 a.m delivery we apparently were the first delivery of the day and while it was you know it's like i don't usually like getting up that early it was kind of nice being able to say like okay it got it it got it out of the way for them they seemed they were like thank you for letting us come so early like this is the first of i think they said 29 deliveries or they said maybe 29 more to go and i really started doers getting more done exactly i was really thinking about how that day looks you know when you're like counting down when you know exactly how many deliveries to make of like large appliances and having to install them um anyway that all worked out well but it leads me to another conversation i've been meaning to have with you which is we talk about the um satisfying feeling of pulling uh the the the film the plastic film off of new appliances sometimes that is not such a great feeling like this film is like really kind of it's stuck under some parts of the fridge and the guy put the um the refrigerator handle on without taking the the plastic film off oh so like i only have taken it off the top part the freezer part of the refrigerator right now because i had to take the handle off otherwise as i peeled the plastic away it left like sticking yes pieces of raid around the handle very unsatisfying very unsatisfying and also like it's sort of like it must come out of the factory like that with like the plastic film also sort of being buried underneath the plastic seal of the refrigerator where the door hits the fridge if you can picture that so like i'm trying to like dig it out without damaging the refrigerator i was

00:37:51 - 00:38:11 | Speaker 1:

refrigerator that's bad design it really was bad design yeah because what are you so really the only answer is for you to figure out how to disassemble all of the handles and various things on this and then try to put it back together so that it's like new so that you don't have like a little that would be of almost that would almost be enough to make you want to just

00:38:11 - 00:38:41 | Speaker 2:

leave it on there right well that will so that's where we are right now we're in what you might call a liminal space because we have we have taken it off the top part the freezer part this is a very classic refrigerator there's nothing fancy about it it's not brushed steel it doesn't have an ice maker or a water maker in fact when she bought this thing she just kept saying that it It only was referred to as a basement refrigerator or every refrigerator she was looking at was referred to as a basement or garage refrigerator.

00:38:43 - 00:38:57 | Speaker 1:

Wait a minute. Well, just now, well, hold on. I'm very curious about this because, again, I'm in the market for a similar product at some point. I'm curious why you – is it because you love making ice so much that an ice maker is kind of unnecessary?

00:38:58 - 00:39:47 | Speaker 2:

No. No, I would have loved to mess around with an ice maker. And if I didn't like it, I could still made my own ice. The thing is, it was just more complicated than need be to have a water line installed there. It was just an old, it was like a refrigerator from 19, refrigerator from 95 or 97 that was there beforehand. And boy, that thing, it was just like a jet engine that would kick on sometimes. And then it would like clank off in a way that like, I didn't think appliances really made a sound like this outside of an old black and white film when the radiator starts clanking. like you just be going about your day and then also go and the refrigerator fan would shut off so that's what we were working with which actually kind of had its charm after a while um but uh anyway so there was nothing fancy there to begin with and so if we wanted an ice maker and water line we've had to like hire somebody to put a water line in which some people said i can run

00:39:47 - 00:39:52 | Speaker 1:

you some pecs andrew i've been running pecs like it's going out of style here yeah it probably

00:39:52 - 00:40:12 | Speaker 2:

wouldn't have been that big of a deal pecs with nail polish would have been fun to play with but Get over there with my whole hog. I'll drive a big hole. through the sill plate run some pecs yeah anything you need buddy this is my whole life now well really i could get my dad there and i could watch him do it yeah and also sounds like you're not really into making the drive so um well if i knew that i was going to get to run some pecs

00:40:12 - 00:40:31 | Speaker 1:

totally different conversation it's a different kind of party um but anyway yeah so we just went with a basic fridge and we kind of shied away from the brushed steel stuff because we i know that there's various um degrees of quality with these brushed steel appliances it's gotten so

00:40:31 - 00:40:40 | Speaker 2:

popular that then you're getting all kinds of knockoffs and some of it's not magnetized and it can be kind of not actually like very high quality right yeah and i don't mind the not

00:40:40 - 00:41:23 | Speaker 1:

magnetized part because i don't like too many magnets to get stuck to our fridge usually i'm learning so much about you today but um the thing is like we have a really shitty uh stove and you know oven stove setup situation and it's like this brushed steel but it's like old and it's a really bad quality one and it is impossible to clean the brushed steel you would think just like a couple of squirts of some like you know window cleaner would work but no it's impossible i have to use like some sort of gritty like soft scrub and then wipe it all down like it's so it's so cheap and anyway i i think that i if we had bought a new refrigerator i think it comes with anti-fingerprint technology that probably would have held up but we just weren't sure and i was like i don't want to be spending my life like trying to get the fingerprints off of this brushed steel now

00:41:23 - 00:41:37 | Speaker 2:

meanwhile i'm the one who's going to buy a refrigerator that actually uploads all the fingerprints to the aphys uh-huh that's the national database of fingerprints so then i'll just be solving crimes while i'm making horse duvers for the football game and what i love

00:41:37 - 00:41:48 | Speaker 1:

about it is that that makes your football games and any kind of get together you have it really makes it sort of like a um a a whodunit right like you're inviting people knives out you're

00:41:48 - 00:43:10 | Speaker 2:

inviting people over because you suspect them all and now i at my apartment had a fancy refrigerator that was stainless steel i think it might have been melee or whatever like you know it was real hot that that was one of their things was like the appliances are high end impossible to get the fingerprints off of it even a nice one yeah yeah yeah so i think you i think that if you want to be dealing with that all the time i think you've made the right call i will probably end up going with that because i'm a sucker although i'm intrigued by these by these refrigerators that like show you anymore i know do i say refrigerator this is a terrible topic for us because we can't say the word anymore but like um there are i mean there's so much technology and newfangledness out there like there are the ones that like like literally the screen is video and you can see what's in there if you hit a button you can just see everything you don't have to open it i think that i mean first of all that's just a a gimmick but i think the argument that they make is actually more energy efficient because you don't have to open the door to see what's in your refrigerator you just and there are ones that you can the video screen you can you know write like soccer practice thursday or whatever you know i i don't know who's soccer practice i need to really remember out here bubbles is soccer practice but i can promise you that i will emerge with probably much more refrigerator than i need for me just myself living here with the cat

00:43:10 - 00:43:37 | Speaker 1:

that's my my typical move the dream is the kristin bell dac shepherd appliance commercial right have you seen those i don't think they're in heavy rotation anymore but they had like kind of a they were advertising sort of a smart kitchen setup for a while they had some appliance that could turn into the opposite appliance i can't remember what it was it was like it's Something that could either be a heat source or a cold source, depending on what kind of party you were throwing. Does any of this ring a bell?

00:43:37 - 00:43:55 | Speaker 2:

No, but it reminds me that when I was looking at washers and dryers, because I need to get a stackable washer-dryer unit, that I was also a little tempted by the washer-dryer that's the same thing. LG makes a washer-dryer.

00:43:55 - 00:44:02 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, and so I have heard that they don't quite live up to it. But I don't know if that's old technology or if they've gotten better.

00:44:02 - 00:44:42 | Speaker 2:

Do we have listeners who have this? Please get at me, will you? Luke at tbtl.net. I'm very curious about if those things are – because it would get me out of a couple of jams. It would mean that I have this little closet where it's going to go, and it's big enough for a stackable unit. But I have very little storage space at the house because it basically tore down all the walls and closets, which it turns out reduces the storage. and so if i could just have this washer dryer one unit means i could put shelves in this laundry area and that would be quite useful for me but um but i've yeah i've also heard that they're not quite there yet like this is i don't know if i want to be the beta test for washer dryer technology

00:44:42 - 00:44:53 | Speaker 1:

that's all the same device yeah that would be amazing though i mean i always pictured it i don't know if it's because they used to make these or this is how we fantasized about it but like a washer on top that just maybe you and i have talked about this was this your idea i thought

00:44:53 - 00:45:59 | Speaker 2:

was my billion dollar idea it should just drop down yeah but which which i i don't know if anybody ever actually went for that but it seems like at least at the home depot that i go to it seems like the where that technology has landed is a big thing that just kind of looks like a washing machine that top loads and then when it's done washing it like drains the water and then it starts heating up and then it just starts drying which i mean there is a convenience factor there that if it actually worked if it actually you know did an okay job and i don't have any clothes that are like you know delicates or anything like i don't i don't i'm to be honest with you i often just wash all of my clothes together in cold darks and lights like who cares the my only complaint about my entire wardrobe and this is a complaint for the nike corporation stop making running socks that you assign them left and right because you get i'm not a particularly like ocd type of person but i spend more of my life trying to match up the right and and left running sock, because to have two left running socks on, even though there's no noticeable difference, I can't abide it.

00:45:59 - 00:46:15 | Speaker 3:

There isn't a noticeable difference, because I've heard this conversation before, I believe, on other podcasts, and I feel like, God, I could have sworn it was you, but I thought somebody that I listened to in my ears came around on it and said, I didn't like it at first, but it turns out they are more comfortable, but that was not you.

00:46:15 - 00:46:54 | Speaker 2:

I have been forced to, in some of my darker moments, wear two left socks or two right socks because i can't find the other one and i have not noticed any difference but of course the ideal like it's going to be a good day if i have my left running sock and my right running sock on but if you hadn't done that i just i think what it is is nike's like we got to do something to these socks to make them seem like they're elevated to seem like they're more engineered so they're like what if we what if we tell them one's for the left and one's for the right and but now it's like most of my day is just trying to make sure that these the the proper socks are are lined up it's like it's a big part of my week honestly it's annoying all right speaking

00:46:54 - 00:47:22 | Speaker 3:

of annoying okay we got to take a break here let me just play i'm 15 seconds into a one minute long samsung home appliance commercial with dax shepherd and kristin bell and i'm just gonna kind of needle drop it here this one is called the dinner party and i think please please work out i think dax is gonna get up punch some buttons on some sort of a smart screen on an appliance and turn it from a cold thing to a hot thing or maybe vice versa i'm

00:47:22 - 00:47:34 | Speaker 1:

i'm just taking so much of my reputation on this don't let me roll over beer and wine check six pack of frozen breast milk about to be thawed just crushed the beverages going formal tonight

00:47:34 - 00:47:55 | Speaker 3:

i was involved in a natural disaster mid diaper change he didn't explain it well enough but that was the device that he had some sort of a refrigerator situation that has four different doors on it and maybe i'm exaggerating maybe it can't go from a heat source to a cold but maybe it can go from a uh freezer to a refrigerator i think that's maybe what it is i mean how cool

00:47:55 - 00:48:44 | Speaker 2:

would that be i mean to be rich right i mean except for this one thing which is there are some folks and i don't think they'll hear this but i'll still be a little coy because i don't want to sound like i'm being critical but i know some people who have a real newfangled refrigerator operator that has a middle drawer for all of your like cans of soda and beer and stuff and i've been to parties at these folks house and i feel like 50 of the conversation is explaining to people where the stuff is because the thing is so kind of futuristic and cool that nobody knows how to operate it and that is kind of a downside of when we make a kind of quantum leap or a big leap forward in technology is i mean do you think people would just know how to use whatever that i still don't really even understand what was going on in that commercial yeah and also i mean

00:48:44 - 00:48:50 | Speaker 3:

from an audio standpoint it doesn't make a lot of sense and um yeah that kind of failed but um

00:48:50 - 00:48:56 | Speaker 2:

no no no i'm not no no i'm just saying it's what exactly goes on with this thing they're just like

00:48:56 - 00:49:28 | Speaker 3:

they're prepping for some sort of a dinner party so they're just showing all the different like they have a little robot that's vacuuming for them and it's just showing off all these samsung appliances and now it can make your life easier but i think what he was trying to show off with That one is like they had breast milk in one compartment of a refrigerator. That time I didn't even do it on purpose. And in other words, so you could probably control the temperature there differently than the temperature above. And then you could turn one thing into a freezer or a refrigerator. One part, he happened to call that out. Yeah. I mean, it shouldn't be. I don't think there's like, yeah.

00:49:28 - 00:49:37 | Speaker 2:

Call the Lelache League on me. But, you know, I don't. That's kind of an interesting component of the commercial. I dig it. I'm here for it.

00:49:37 - 00:49:55 | Speaker 3:

pro breastfeeding i don't know much about that obviously i don't have kids but i feel like you know that might be something that you need to give extra care to to make sure there's a proper temperature so anyway that's what was going on there as far as your thing about like well people know how to use it like i feel like you can't hold back tech i mean eventually you know you'll

00:49:55 - 00:50:15 | Speaker 2:

and if you live there 99 of the time is you using it you can figure out exactly We'll be right back. You know where to store your breast milk. I really thought we were going to come in with Hire by Creed, but okay.

00:50:15 - 00:50:26 | Speaker 1:

Do you know that I... It's also fine. Even as the baseball boys were singing that song, I still didn't recognize it as a song that I know. I mean, I'm sure I know it, but I didn't recognize it.

00:50:26 - 00:51:33 | Speaker 2:

They played the Super Bowl halftime, by the way, once. oh yeah that wasn't probably not in your prime football watching days but uh we have more important business here than talking about the music of creed we want to talk about the donations of our donors these are some wonderful generous folks keeping tbtl going this is listener supported podcasting don't you forget it i know you'd think corporate america would be knocking down the door trying to sponsor this every manner of samsung appliance and various home improvement stores and and who drywall concerns you just think digital frame manufacturers line a pop-up thanksgiving restaurants in Seattle from years ago you just think there would be so much interest in advertising on this show turns out that is less of a growth space for us right now so thank goodness we've got folks like Allie Leanna of Seattle Washington thanks Allie thanks for taking us higher there go thank you for i'm trying to think of one other creed song which it was something we didn't really explore kirk cousins was like they've got a lot of hits and i was kind of trying to remember

00:51:33 - 00:51:51 | Speaker 1:

what their other hits are well i don't know any of these but there's one called one last breath that one does not ring a bell don't stop dancing no that doesn't seem like them they're a dance oh wait what are you looking at cream i yeah yeah no it says creed off the album weathered

00:51:51 - 00:51:56 | Speaker 2:

2001 Don't Stop Dancing is one of the most un-Creed names. We have to listen to that

00:51:56 - 00:52:04 | Speaker 1:

later. Yeah. Anyway, I won't read all of the Creed songs. I would figure one of the My Sacrifice? That sounds like a Creed song. Isn't that a cover

00:52:04 - 00:52:20 | Speaker 2:

of a... Isn't that an Elton John song? No sacrifice. No sacrifice. I don't know, but that was pretty good. I want to apologize to Minnie Lie of Seattle, Washington who's also supporting me singing my rendition of I Think Elton

00:52:20 - 00:52:34 | Speaker 1:

john over the thank you baby song i ran into minnie at um hustle and flow rough and tumble rough and tumble you knew how did you know wow man i can never stop working together

00:52:34 - 00:52:50 | Speaker 2:

that would be so great somebody please open a a sports bar called hustle and flow and all you play is 3-6 Mafia, and Taron Manning is just wandering around saying very, very bad takes

00:52:50 - 00:52:54 | Speaker 1:

on things. And I'd go to brunch there, but yeah, I ran into Minnie there one time.

00:52:54 - 00:53:12 | Speaker 2:

What up, Minnie? Thank you so much. Thanks also to Alex Parle of Edmonds, Washington. Edmonds! The Arby's district. That's Whirly Ball, capital of the world. Culturally Edmonds. Yes. Someday, Andrew, I'm going to take you on the drive, and I'm going to show you my Edmonds.

00:53:12 - 00:53:15 | Speaker 1:

Okay, but we're stopping at the Arby's at some point.

00:53:15 - 00:53:32 | Speaker 2:

Try to stop me. I could really go for some of those Arby's. I think I might have some kind of potato deficiency because I was going so – I'm making them again tonight. I think I already mentioned this because I have two extra russet potatoes. Oh, I see.

00:53:32 - 00:53:46 | Speaker 1:

So those are russet. You took a photo, and it was a really nice photo, actually, but it was kind of close up. And I pictured it being a – maybe because I had smaller potatoes on my mind. I thought it was a smaller potato. So that was a russet that was sliced up into a bunch of different coins.

00:53:46 - 00:54:36 | Speaker 2:

You peel it. Yeah, you peel it. And then you kind of, I'm actually, I'm going to experiment with it tonight. I'm going to cut them a little bit thicker. And I'm not going to have quite so many of them. Because what happened was I kind of filled this frying pan. And it was hard for me to sort of maneuver them and get the exact right sear. What you do is you basically, you peel a russet potato. You cut it into kind of medallions, if you will. and then you salt and pepper both sides and then you get a little bit of vegetable oil and what else was in there? Butter, a lot of butter going. And then you drop them in there and you get a really good sear on both sides and then you throw in a little, they said chicken broth, I did a vegetable broth and then you bake it. You get a good sear on both sides and then you throw more butter in and some rosemary and then you bake it on 400 for like 30 minutes.

00:54:36 - 00:54:41 | Speaker 1:

Are you using just like a skillet that you can just take it from the stove. Yes, exactly. And I had to put,

00:54:41 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 2:

I put the heating, what do you call that? Like the thing that you use to grab something hot in the kitchen. It wasn't an oven mitt, but it's more like a square. I put that on top of the oven door because I knew that I was going to open that door and grab that metal handle and turn it.

00:55:00 - 00:55:12 | Speaker 3:

a cartoon walrus uh-huh so my hand is going so um but but what's great about him is so the outside is really crispy but then the inside is almost it's like a croquette almost like the inside is

00:55:12 - 00:55:17 | Speaker 2:

just so soft it look i was going to tell you that it looks super fluffy inside it would they it

00:55:17 - 00:55:22 | Speaker 3:

worked out thank you tick tock yeah and thank you also to jessica pinter of cleveland ohio your

00:55:22 - 00:55:26 | Speaker 2:

friend jessica andrew this is my friend jessica i will be seeing jessica in a matter of days as

00:55:26 - 00:55:31 | Speaker 3:

You should consider making melting potatoes to impress her when you go visit her.

00:55:31 - 00:55:36 | Speaker 2:

I don't think so. Don't they have cheese on them as well? No, they don't.

00:55:36 - 00:55:43 | Speaker 3:

Oh, I thought they were a little flecks of cheese that you put in there. No, that was flecks of salt. It was too much salt. That was Maldon. Do you use that Maldon?

00:55:43 - 00:56:00 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The flakes, yeah. You know, Genevieve got it. She got herself, and I was kind of like, do we really need this? But honestly, it is kind of handy. What's called a salt pig? Are you familiar with a salt pig? I'm not. It definitely sounds like the name of a restaurant in Seattle, right? Salt pig. Are you going to go to salt pig?

00:56:00 - 00:56:02 | Speaker 3:

Or something from Fifty Shades of Grey.

00:56:02 - 00:56:15 | Speaker 2:

Oh, maybe. But it's like this little, just a little container that you keep on the counter, and it's kind of curved at the top, so it doesn't collect dust or anything like that. But you can just reach in there while you're cooking, just kind of grab the salt.

00:56:15 - 00:56:53 | Speaker 3:

That's the whole thing now. We're all into that. Although my daughter, who's lapped me in so many ways in life, including knowing how to cook, I was cooking, I was putting a bunch of like Maldon in something And she was like, you know, that's a finishing salt You really want to hit that at the end Because of how it's shaped She's like, you can kind of cook with, you know You can do the kind of coarse salt that you, you know Into the thing, and she was like Because it's going to work differently with the thing, you know But what I was thinking about with the Maldon last night Is, okay, now I cut the little interior bag open But if there's any humidity in my kitchen, we've got problems Even if I reseal the cardboards I assume that's where the salt pig comes in.

00:56:54 - 00:57:08 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and also, even if you didn't have a salt pig sitting on your counter, I mean, opening and reopening that little bag inside of the Malden is, like, such a pain. I would definitely, you know, decant some of that into some sort of a jar or something that you can keep it.

00:57:09 - 00:57:12 | Speaker 3:

Look at this, Emile Henry salt pig in burgundy.

00:57:12 - 00:57:20 | Speaker 2:

Ooh, Emile, because ours is kind of, is ours burgundy or is ours black? Does it look sort of like a tube? Does it look sort of like something that Mario might go down?

00:57:20 - 00:57:34 | Speaker 3:

I was just going to say, it looks exactly like what Mario would jump into. You know me, too. There's nothing made in France since 1850? Sign me up.

00:57:34 - 00:57:36 | Speaker 2:

What's the company called again?

00:57:37 - 00:57:38 | Speaker 3:

Emile Henry Saltpig.

00:57:38 - 00:57:52 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, that's what we have. I don't think we have. Oh, wow, lots of colors. I think we might have a black one. But, boy, seeing these other colors, I wonder if maybe we should have gone with something else. But this was not my, I should not stick my nose into this at this point.

00:57:52 - 00:58:03 | Speaker 3:

No, definitely don't. Don't stick your nose in the salt dig, okay? No, that's what they say. You know who would never do that? Lexi Keogh in Alexandria, Virginia. I'm going to see Lexi next week. Wait. No, I'm just joking.

00:58:04 - 00:58:06 | Speaker 2:

Are you? Lexi's like, what is going on?

00:58:06 - 00:58:09 | Speaker 3:

Are you touring the nation, popping in on our listeners?

00:58:09 - 00:58:26 | Speaker 2:

I am doing what they call the Great Daily Donor Tour, where I stop by. And it's always in the order of the list, this kind of randomized order. So I can't, like, sort by state or city. I just have to. If I'm flying to California to Virginia two days in a row, so be it.

00:58:26 - 00:58:38 | Speaker 3:

That's what it is. That's why it's so important that you get your road kit working. That's why you had to test it yesterday. Because you might be doing the show from Taylor Miller's house. Taylor also lives in Seattle, Andrew, but just a different part of Seattle than you do.

00:58:38 - 00:58:42 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I'm going to have to be coming back. We don't even know that, honestly. Taylor could be my neighbor.

00:58:42 - 00:58:49 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's right. Well, Taylor, thank you, and thank you to all of our donors for making the show possible.

00:58:50 - 00:58:57 | Speaker 1:

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

00:58:58 - 00:59:07 | Speaker 2:

Did we just go over the river for the first time in a long time? I think we did. What are we looking at here? Oh, my goodness. Yeah, it's over an hour. We did have a couple of technical stop-downs, so I don't know. It was a close one.

00:59:07 - 00:59:20 | Speaker 3:

But I feel like what I can do is I can, and this is what's important, I can check my list off and tell you, Andrew, what was going to be the top story, but I can frame it in the email segment by just talking to you about it. That's really how I'm framing it.

00:59:20 - 00:59:20 | Speaker 2:

Okay.

00:59:21 - 00:59:31 | Speaker 3:

There's an interesting story. It was in the New York Times. I saw it reprinted in the Seattle Times about leaves. And basically what they're saying is the richest.

00:59:31 - 00:59:51 | Speaker 2:

Oh, don't give this one short shrift. You don't want short shrift on leaves? We'll save it for tomorrow. I think we should save it. I mean, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I feel like I was reading this yesterday. passion you've shown in possibly months in years so i know i mean the idea of like composting things you know i'm composting freak in my kitchen these days actually you know what you know what

00:59:51 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 3:

i saw something you know how it was like probably i'm probably not going to go for the um that that that device that you have uh that

01:00:00 - 01:00:22 | Speaker 2:

That's the composting machine. I saw something yesterday. We'll talk about it on the show. I saw something that had me really maybe thinking I've got to go big and go home with the composting topics. Okay, okay, okay. That's fine. Go big and go home. Is that an option? I think that's a show title. Okay, well then, any emails or V-mails that are striking your fancy?

01:00:22 - 01:00:44 | Speaker 3:

No, I want to save them all for tomorrow. Just joking. Yeah, I just have one. It's kind of a shorty, but it's so worth it. Do you remember yesterday, Luke? Tell me everything you remember about yesterday, including the part about listener Craig, who wanted to tell us about some old antique beer cans that he found in his home. Yes, Lion Beer. But he sang his story.

01:00:44 - 01:00:48 | Speaker 2:

He sang it in the style of, this is the story of a girl. That's not the name of the song. No.

01:00:48 - 01:00:52 | Speaker 3:

Well, it's like parenthetically the story of a girl, but it's like called Amazing, right?

01:00:52 - 01:01:12 | Speaker 2:

And then I asked if he would please give us an update about how in the heck fire he got $1,000 per can. Did it have the beer in it still? Is that the most valuable can of unopened beer in history? And I asked him to maybe do it in the style of Smash Mouth All-Star or something else that you liked even worse than that idea.

01:01:12 - 01:01:34 | Speaker 3:

You had thrown out the idea of the Bare Naked Ladies. It's been one week since you looked at me. Listener Lauren did want to jump on here. Lauren has a great voice and often will sing on the voicemail line and sent this. This is a shorty. This is a short little ditty about something that she and her friend found in an attic.

01:01:34 - 01:01:53 | Speaker 1:

On some weekend in the 90s, I was playing with my neighbor in her attic when we stumbled on a Japanese newspaper. And although her home was ten years old and always been a family, we were certain we'd found evidence of such a five years back.

01:01:54 - 01:02:20 | Speaker 3:

Okay, so in the telephone song, so even though the, so they found a Japanese newspaper and their kids and they're like, this is amazing. But now Lauren is saying, now the deal is this house was only like ten years old and they were the only family to ever live there. So who knows where this thing came from? But at the time, they believed it was evidence of settlers from way back. Oh, wow. I think that's what was said there. Yes, I heard that.

01:02:20 - 01:02:26 | Speaker 2:

And by the way, amazing singing and amazing working this into Suzanne Vega, Tom Steiner. Exactly.

01:02:26 - 01:02:39 | Speaker 3:

So I'll encourage this behavior if you want to call it. I love it. So it's a combination of interesting things. Was that the end of the song, by the way? That was it. Short but sweet. Short but sweet. But then if you want to make it a song, do it.

01:02:39 - 01:03:16 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. I think this is a fun new trend. Yeah. Yeah. And and now Lauren has a very tuneful voice, but I don't want that to be a barrier. We want all kinds. We want it like when I was trying to sing Love Shack on Saturday night on stage. I didn't even get into that with you, Andrew. I was had a pit in my stomach all weekend because I would for some reason knew I I knew I was going to be called upon to sing at the Live Wire Fancy Pants Gala. and i was like this is not a gift to the crowd me singing like it's i'm you know i'm not the worst singer but it's like nobody's there to hear me sing love shack um why not why love shack why

01:03:16 - 01:03:21 | Speaker 3:

not um party out of bounds you could have called me i have all kinds of b52s deep cuts you could

01:03:21 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 2:

have sung instead i was i literally thought of you on saturday because the house band was playing people on with other b52 songs i think they played someone on with private my own private idaho and stuff and i was like andrew could really give you some deep deep cuts they didn't want to choose to sing 6060842 well what happened was we had the live band there and the idea was it would be fun to have it be kind of sort of a live band like karaoke first the first idea was like we'll just have karaoke with the live band and then people can donate money and they can come up and sing and da da da and the band was like well if you would like us to learn 200 songs by next week that's going to be a fairly big lift so then we decided let's have the band learn three songs and and uh and then it was like they were just this is how these things go there was like luke's going to sing a song then elena's going to sing a song then they're going to sing a duet then there's going to be an all sing then we're going to have karaoke and it was like it ended up getting whittled down whittled down whittled down too i was like can i not sing a song by myself because i feel self-indulgent to me based on the fact that i'm already standing up there all night long and my name is on the t-shirts and i don't i don't just don't if i was jimmy fallon singing hotline bling in the style of bob dylan by the way have you heard that you played me some bob dylan impression recently i don't know if it was that though it would have to be this i mean how many bob dylan impressions can i play for one friend this i will let me just let me just play a little bit of this for you because I mean, I think this is legitimately say what you want about Jimmy Fallon, but I think

01:05:00 - 01:05:09 | Speaker 4:

this is legitimately a pretty interesting take on this song this is drake's hotline bling but in the style of if bob dylan were to have been singing it

01:05:09 - 01:05:50 | Speaker 2:

you used to call me on my cell phone Late night when you need my love You used to call me on my cell phone Late night when you need my love Ever since I left the city You started when I left things going out more Glasses of champagne out on the dance floor

01:05:50 - 01:05:53 | Speaker 4:

Like, I like this as a piece of music.

01:05:53 - 01:05:54 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's pretty good.

01:05:54 - 01:05:58 | Speaker 4:

I'm also, like, I love Bob Dylan, but, like, I enjoy this musical.

01:05:58 - 01:06:18 | Speaker 2:

I know when the heart I play That can only mean one day I know when the heart I play That can only mean one day Ever since I left the city You, you, you

01:06:18 - 01:06:40 | Speaker 4:

So my point is, when Jimmy Fallon does this, he's adding value To the experience of the people Who have come to see him do also his talk show I'm not adding value And I was like So I wanted to keep it short and sweet And I wanted to keep the ambition low And they were already going to do Love Shack And so I was like Well how about that's my song I'll just yell the Fred Schneider part

01:06:40 - 01:06:41 | Speaker 3:

Oh okay yeah

01:06:41 - 01:06:46 | Speaker 4:

Because it's you know Like a pretty low lift I mean you just did a pretty passable Fred Schneider yourself

01:06:46 - 01:06:50 | Speaker 3:

With my 6060842 Yeah exactly Yeah

01:06:50 - 01:08:34 | Speaker 4:

So but then Because it's just weird what's in and not in our comfort zones just as people and maybe even as like to the degree that you and i are performers you know like i'm pretty comfortable sitting up there asking questions or doing my normal interviewee kind of stuff but this all like leading up to saturday night i was just like god i'm gonna up love shack like first of all it's a live band which is different than the karaoke machine you know the karaoke machine nobody understands how helpful it is to have that bouncing ball or the changing of colors of the words so they're like the band's like okay it comes in on an eight count and i'm like is that eight click like what is it i don't even know what an eight count is i mean i have a rough sense and it's like you know elena's singing uh i'm singing there's the our band leader uh walker is doing backup vocals and i'm just i have the lyrics but i'm i'm it's it's just harder to sing with a live band than you think it's going to be or at least than people think and so i was like i mean it was fine luckily it was the end of the night everybody was fairly tuned up so i think it sort of went by fast i will also say this for for love shack being a song that is almost so ubiquitous and overdone at karaoke and overplayed that it's almost stopped being a song for me it's almost stopped existing due to its ubiquity the guitar goes pretty hard on it and i know that because i listened to love shack probably eight times driving from here down to portland on saturday night yeah because i was like i just need to i know that i know this song but i need to like really re-familiarize myself because there's going to be a moment where i'm going to like not have the right script in front of me the right lyric and i'm going to have to just try to do this from memory i knew that was going to happen and it's exactly what happened luke i really did have to lift that friggin x-wing fighter out of

01:08:34 - 01:09:06 | Speaker 3:

the dagobah system the amazing thing is the amazing thing is your name is luke but also um that is amazing but that's not exactly i mean the use the force s remember remember like he needs He's using his eyes in the X-Wing But then during it He hears Ben Kenobi's ghost I have to ask my neighbor about that Who says, you know, don't trust your eyes Use the force And he puts the blinders on And that's when he fights the Pokeball That's shooting lasers at him That's when he fights the Pokeball, exactly Yeah, the Poke guy always worries The shiny guy always worries

01:09:06 - 01:09:16 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, exactly Well, I think that's probably as good a place as any To wrap the show up I want to apologize to the people that we offended who are Star Trek fans.

01:09:16 - 01:09:23 | Speaker 1:

As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.

01:09:24 - 01:09:29 | Speaker 4:

I decided I'm just going to start playing that whenever I'm foundering. I'm just going to kick in the Tom Brennan apology.

01:09:29 - 01:09:37 | Speaker 3:

I like it. And I find that I'm just going to end this show with 6060842. I'm not making a habit of this. It will be Words by Doves tomorrow, but we'll just do this for now.

01:09:37 - 01:09:46 | Speaker 4:

We can have fun, too. We can also enjoy ourselves on the program. All right. Thanks, everyone. We'll see you tomorrow In the meantime Have a great Tuesday Take care of yourselves And please remember No mountain too tall And good luck to all

01:10:00 - 01:10:08 | Speaker 1:

Drop it in the phone slot. Pray she'd get the lock. It was 6060842.

01:10:09 - 01:10:13 | Unknown:

And I'm waiting for you. 6060842.

01:10:17 - 01:10:24 | Speaker 3:

Yes, man. One day since we heard Greg's call, the best thing about it was that it wasn't scripted. Thanks.

01:10:24 - 01:10:25 | Speaker 2:

Power out.

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