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Whoa, is this the new copier? It sure is, Dennis. They installed it this morning. Can't believe corporate actually listened to our request. Yep, I guess Christmas came early this year. This thing rules. It collates, staples pages, no more stapling by hand.

Yeah, Santa should have wrapped it. What? The printer. Santa should have wrapped it when he gave it early. Oh. This is going to make our lives so much easier.

I know, this is so much nicer than the old copier.

Yeah, I know, and Santa and all his elves must have worked so hard on it, and then they gave it to us early?

It's a very nice printer, Tracy. Just make sure no one copies their rear end, eh?

Oh, that naughty old elf must be one mean bastard to give us this so early.

What? Did I stutter, Megan? Santa Claus.

Okay, it looks like the printer's gotten everyone a little too excited.

Of course it did. Everyone just go back to work.

TBTL!

I have never heard someone say so many wrong things, one after the other, consecutively, in a row.

If there's a better use for the internet, I haven't found it.

It's embarrassing and it's gross, but at least it's kind of funny.

This one was created from a wooden vase from Fiji. Unsure what type of timber, but it's a ladies' bong for ladies. What do you say we go out and get some Carvel? I got the time if you got the diapers.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Everyone has their own podcast where they have to admit stuff all the time. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. coming to you from the madrona hill studio perched high above the mighty columbia where it's um it's late october but it's certainly not even near the coldest time of year yet but i am realizing that i need to get i need to get some kind of hvac emphasis on the h Like, I need to get some heat here in this room. I am wearing a, like, a puffy jacket that Becca gave me that we call it the sleeping bag jacket. You may have seen people in these. It's got a hood on it. It goes all the way down to, like, your shins. I am wearing that right now just because that's how cold it's getting here, even though it's only October 26th. In a case gone cold, could a podcast bring the heat? Anyway, I'm going to push through and focus on the episode at hand, which is episode 4,062 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. I woke up earlier this week, I woke up kind of early in the morning, and I looked at my phone, and I was looking at a story that had just, It was a small mention, really, in the Oregonian about an incident that happened on an airplane where a flight was going from Everett, Washington, down to San Francisco. And the flight had to make an emergency landing in Portland. And, I mean, I think the whole article was like a paragraph. It was like flight makes emergency landing at PDX. And then there was just one line about how a pilot flying in the jump seat might have tried to turn the airplane off. And I thought, we're going to be hearing more about this. And we have. It's now like one of the biggest stories, maybe in the country, because it's so unusual. We will talk about some of the elements of this story, including if psychedelic drugs were involved in this whole situation. Also, Andrew noticed more of those kind of decals or stickers on cars that say student driver or I'm a new driver.

I need stickers all the time, dude.

And a lot of people have had thoughts about that and have been responding. So we'll read some of those responses. We'll delve into what's going on with the new driver stickers. And also, it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day. We'll do some Blur's Day messages. And we'll talk to this guy, longest running Cobra of the show, may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships he is now just t-minus one day away from heading to cuyahoga county please don't be mean to cleveland he's andrew walsh and he's joining

me right now good morning my friend good morning luke sometimes before the show we'll quickly go over what drops what audio drops i've used in the little montage at the beginning of the show to hopefully make sure that you and I aren't choosing the same drops and that's a pretty rare occurrence anyway but you want to make sure of it but as I was listening to that today it occurred to me one nice thing is I never have to check with you to see if you're using a drop of Bruce Willis saying I've got

the time if you've got the diapers i believe that is completely in that's a space that you completely own that friend that and i believe i guess ll cool j talking about duplication

investigations i never have to worry about you playing an andrew walsh production that i have

no interest in trying to acquire the ip for or um what is uh why am i blanking on the actor's name i have a drop that you think is peculiar i believe from the movie batman of um yes not commissioner gordon um but uh d.a harvey dent billy d williams saying yeah i'm a man of words but those words will count and so will my actions how was my billy d there it was okay but does he say few words i'm a man of few words sorry i messed up the words i was so he's a man of words i'm a man of words and i'm a man i'm a man of words uh yet weirdly i got into law enforcement

Speaking of audio that I don't think, you know, you're going to be clamoring for, I have some good news, everybody.

Single Christians, good news.

I spent the intervening 24 hours from yesterday's show and today's show assiduously loading some audio onto this computer, so now.

At the end of yesterday's show, of course, I was stumbling around trying to find this song.

But now, Andrew, we will never be without the sitting song.

Now, I take it that you're not a fan of the song?

Is it because it gets stuck in your head or because you think it's inane or because you think it's beneath the dignity of this program?

This program has dignity?

Well, that's why I was so confused. Did you notice when... You're so anti that song.

I ran into the studio today into my studio a little bit later than you ran into yours when I came in here I saw that you were the little box representing your voice was already active on my computer screen and so I sat down quickly I threw in my headphones I opened up my microphone I'm sitting here in Nashville at the little studio I turned on my microphone do you remember the sound that came out of my mouth I don't think you do I don't think you noticed What do you think I noticed? It was this. I'm going to recreate it here. Here, I'm going to take off my headphones.

I can't be running in.

I'm going to turn off my mic for a second. Okay. I'm running in. Put on my headphones. Turn on my mic. And then the first thing I said was... Hold on, hold on, hold on.

This is you walking.

I'm walking in. Do you have some coconuts? I'm locked the door. I rode a horse. Do you have coconuts?

No, not yet, but then the door opens.

Surprise!

And we're having a birthday party for you. Okay, that is exactly what happened.

I don't know why it auto-jumps to the surprise party.

Let me see here. I was going to see if maybe... And then I came riding in on my horse. Uh-huh. That's great. I heard there was a birthday party on the air.

And you fell off the horse. We had to call somebody to come pick you up.

In an electric vehicle? Yeah, probably. Is that what that sound is? I don't know.

I thought it was... There it is. But then there was the air raid. I thought what I was playing for you was an ambulance because, Andrew, I'm going to tell you what happened really quickly, and then I want to hear your sound that you made. I just read the word ambience to be ambulance.

Oh, that's what happened there.

It says car interior ambience, but then the car is kind of a weird shape, like it could be like it was an ambulance. So then I had you falling off of the horse, and then... Okay. That's... This is the police now. They're coming for me a bad podcast hosting. Yeah, and that's fair honestly. I'll surrender

I'm gonna turn myself in yeah to authorities. There's a warrant out for bad podcast

I'm always surprised at how often people do turn themselves in I do want to hear your sound

What are you gonna do in this day and age like you can't you can't you can't get off the grid?

I guess but I mean it must be it must be much more more exhausting than we think it is or that i imagine it to be to to sort of be out in the world trying to exist while running away from the cops i'm not talking we were talking on the show yesterday about clearance rates and about the show forensic files i don't mean somebody who's committed a crime and you haven't been called to account but somebody who they kind of know who it is and either they escape from jail or they the police know who it is and they're looking for the person and the person is kind of as they might say on the lamb i'm always when when the punishment is likely to be life in prison when someone turns themselves in i'm always fairly shocked because you know i'm not trying to advocate for bad behavior but in my mind it's like if if the ant it's if it's either i'm going to go to prison for life or i'm going to stay out here On the Lamb for a few more days I'm trying to stay on the Lamb for a few more days

Alright, I'm going to take this to a Very dark place But it's related and it's something that I thought about Almost my entire life of watching Violent films I don't know when I started watching violent films

But do you feel like you need a little music For this? Will this take the edge off? No

You know what that song doesn't do? It doesn't take the edge off It puts the edge on It puts the edge in the basket You're making my elephant man um uh so everybody calm down you don't want to be a mad elephant but you know okay for real this is kind of a violent thing to bring up okay but there is a trope in movies like let's say a um a uh organized crime style gangster movie or or something anything terrifying where somebody is at gunpoint and the assailant or the person holding the gun has made it very clear that this is the end like there's no getting out of this these are your final moments and in fact in in in in some cases they say so now start digging your own grave right like we've seen that before that's yeah yes you're right it's a trope yeah it's a bit of a trope i'm thinking of like casino i think has one of those but like in my head i'm always like if i'm in that situation i guess the desire and the evolutionary um whatever impact on us is that we will always try to do whatever we think we can in the moment to save our own life what if you dig the grave so nicely that they say okay you know

what we got an opening down at the shop um we take it back yeah this is actually how we test

out grave diggers yeah exactly you just passed oh my god i'm i'm shaking but i'm excited what a day Mostly excited. I just sort of think that, like, I just remember being kind of, you know, a younger person and seeing these tropes or whatever and thinking, like, yeah, but you're already dead. Like, don't dig the grave. Yeah, totally. Like, just, like, what are they going to do? Like, make your move. Like, run at him. Jump at him. Do something. I'm assuming he is holding the gun. But, hey, women can be cold-blooded killers, too. I want to shout out to the ladies. But, you know, that was just something like as a little, not as a little kid, because I don't think I watched that shit as a very little kid. But, like, at some point in action movies, people are holding guns. They've made it clear that, like, you're not negotiating your way out of this. Well, then at that point, just, like, maybe take the shovel and whack at the gun. Like, your chances of survival are not good, okay? but if it does end up that you meet your untimely end in a scuffle involving a gun that might be a quicker cleaner death than whatever these monsters have in store for you especially if they plan on and again my apologies for bringing this up so early in the morning but or whenever you're listening to this maybe late at night sorry for bringing this up in the middle of the afternoon over your lunch but like especially if you're looking at possibly getting buried alive f that

But also, do you want your last activity to be back-breaking labor? Right, exactly. I mean, just forget the very fact— How about labor rights, if nothing else? Thank you. Let's organize. The people who are in movies and who are being told to dig their own graves need to get together because there is power, you know, when you organize. But I'm with you. I think my guess would be that roughly 100% of people—and I said the other day, nothing can be 100%, right? Is that true? It was supposed to be a 100% chance of rain here And I said, how can you say

Oh, a prediction

Although, you know, somebody I read somewhere or saw somewhere That like, maybe I've been reading The weather report wrong I'm all over the place right now, I apologize But I'm also battling hypothermia But So one thing is, I bet you 100% of people Who watch those kinds of movies thought I'm not digging the grave, I'm swinging at them with the shovel Because Make them dig the grave You know, like if they take me out as I'm fighting them It's the same outcome as if I dig this grave and get down in there and then you know, let them Have you know do their worst? Okay now back to the weather back to the much Sunnier topic Andrew of weather reports and things like that which you know you like to get wet though never miss a chance to work that in I Think I saw somewhere that when I've been reading say like a 60 I see like I'm looking at the weather for the particular day and it shows like 60% chance of rain or it shows 60% and then rain I think I've always thought that meant there's a 60% chance that it'll be a rainy day but what that means is that 60% of the day will involve rain like let me ask

hold on one second I just need to adjust my car seat here just okay that what a sound effect that paid off what a sound effect that's the first one that popped up on sound effects.net or whatever wow what i'm wondering what the well you know what

that's a good start for I mean, honestly, you play a car seat adjusting sound effect and you don't think I'm going to play a song about sitting? No, that's a really good point. It's a highly relevant song to play after that. No, but I know that I'm doing a terrible job describing this, but it seemed to be fairly compelling evidence that just basically I've been, I'm reading, I don't know, I'm looking at the forecast. It's saying 50% chance of rain at 1 p.m.

That's a chance. It's not like it's going to rain 60% of the time. Is it a chance, though?

Is that what it means? Is that what the percentage means?

I've always assumed that's what it means. Okay, this is now it's back to this is what Google is feeding me using Google generative AI. So this is like one of those things where I'm writing directly from Google here, not like a website. But it says a 60% chance of rain mean. and it says a 60% chance of rain means that 60% of the forecast area will experience measurable rain at some point during the forecast period and the other 40% won't. If that is right, if that is right, holy shits. I'm going to blow your mind. I'm going to blow your mind right now. Hold on. Chris is walking out. This is bananas. That can be. I feel like I'm in like a living meme of somebody freaking out because they realize that the numbers on a toaster mean the number of minutes that the toast, you know how that's a whole thing now. Right. but is that right a 60 chance of rain i mean i'm gonna so that means 60 of the area

will receive rain at some point during that period but that can't be right because like

you say it's still predictive because if i'm reading this correctly it's saying there i'm gonna get into some real anchorman shit here but it's like a hundred percent chance that 60 of there's a hundred percent chance that there's a 60 chance of rain uh in a certain area no i'm saying that incorrectly that 60 percent of the forecast area will experience measurable rain there's a hundred percent chance that 60 percent of the forecast area will experience measurable

rain that does not so when i saw 100 the other day what they're saying is 100 of the area of the of the forecast area here perched high above the mighty columbia whatever the scale the scope the range of of the distribution of the geography they're talking about 100 of that area is going to get rain but if it's 50 it means only 50 of the area is going to get rain not all one so in other words those percentages might relate to the geographical area not to the the well it is sort

of the same thing but it's different right i mean but they're saying it's definitely going to rain and it's definitely going to rain in this area whatever the area marked off but only for like

right now i'm looking they're saying in this hour as we're recording this it's saying 49 chance of

rain where i am so it's a hundred percent chance that 40 49 of this area is going to get right

that is bananas which also means 61 of it's not going to get right the good news is this is not

the type of thing that anybody will email us about and tell us that we're dummies because i have a feeling that there's going to be all kinds of nuanced takes on this thing which i welcome that that's fine i never claimed to be a meteorologist wait did i we although we're well known for our for being quants for our number crunching. Yeah, exactly. But that really does blow my mind. If that is accurate. Now I realize that what Google is getting this information from is a website called clickorlando.com, which seems to be an Orlando local news TV station 6 in Orlando.

It is always 67 degrees with a 40% chance of rain.

See, that drop is less funny if what I just read is true. The whole point of that joke is how can there always be a 60% chance of rain or 40% chance of rain?

Don't take that away from my friend Andrew Walsh.

Oh my God, my mind is reeling.

That David Cross from Waiting for Guffman clip is a big, I know it's a big deal in your life.

It really is. It was such a surprise to see him in that movie. I think probably the first time I, I'm guessing the first time I saw that film, I didn't know who he was. And the second time I saw that film on a rewatch, I was like, oh my God, it's Bob and Dave.

You're saying it's surprising because It seems like Maybe this is Decreasing a bit But it seems like you kind of have your comedy crew And so you sort of Stay with your comedy crew Once Mr. Show Mr. Show would have existed before he does that Cameo right

I don't think so I feel like they might have been concur I'm trying to figure out when Mr. Show runtime was and when that film, we can figure this out pretty quickly, but Mr. Show years, I mean, it's going to be pretty close. So, 95 to 98 was Mr. Show with Bob and David. Okay.

Oh, wow, so that would have been like, I think Guffman came out in 95, because I remember Christopher Guest came to KUOW, and I was an intern.

Oh, 97 is when Guffman came out.

Okay, so Mr. Show was out before that.

Mr. Show was out. Mr. Show came out in 98. Yeah. So maybe I just wasn't aware of Mr. Show. I started watching Mr. Show. My friend John introduced me to Mr. Show in college. And so that means it would have been probably around 97 or something like that. So, yeah, it might have just been luck of the draw that I happened to happen to see one before the other.

Well, I guess my point is that you sort of have these ensemble casts that tend to kind of do tend to move around together. And like, you know, there's the Christopher Guest, Eugene Levy, obviously, Kath, Catherine O'Hara, Fred Willard, they were all Bob Balaban, they're all kind of part of that, like Guffman slash Mighty Wind slash best in show world. And then you have David Cross, who's only in one of them. He's just that one character, like he just walked on for that one day to do that guy. yes i feel like sometimes these things are kind of like either you know it's sort of like if key or peel showed up somewhere um which again i'm sure there are many counter examples to my theory that i'm developing on the fly but i think you know it's like the folks from the kind of i think you should leave universe which is in fact how we started the show today yes you're saying that like

because in this case we just had dave david i don't know why i keep calling him dave but we just had David out in the field playing that character and you're saying you're surprised that Bob wasn't

also part of that scene? Well I guess you just said you were surprised to see him there. I guess your point was because you were a fan of Mr. Show so it was exciting to see him playing in the Christopher Guest universe

and that he just that I identified him so much with a very specific brand which was his particular show I'm pretty sure that the first time i saw guffman i didn't that wasn't special to me and then at some point re-watching i was like holy shit that that's uh that's david um but also and i'm i'm stumbling around here because i'm trying to find it on the fly i feel like bob odenkirk bob odenkirk is not in guffman right but isn't he in a deleted scene wasn't bob odenkirk in a deleted scene wow that would be news to me

i'm always up for a good guffman related conversation um let me see here okay here

it is here's the actual they actually can we actually watch this now i don't know if i've seen this before i've just heard tell of it this is something on youtube called bob odenkirk sings deleted scene from waiting for guffman let can we darest we darest we we darest sir so this is not bob odenkirk this is a guy who i don't recognize from the movie i'm wondering this is terrible quality i wonder if this is an audition reel i'm seeing here i'm no because this guy in

This guy's in the movie, and he does a scene from Raging Bull where he goes, he's doing both characters, and he's going, did you F my wife? Did you F my wife? Did you F my wife? And then I believe later they cut to a scene of him blowing ping pong balls in the air and catching them in his own mouth when they get into kind of a montage.

I did not remember that detail. I have not seen this movie as many times as you have. I have seen it a lot, but it's also been a long time. But, okay, so this looks like, whatever I'm watching on YouTube has sort of weird quality because somebody maybe imported this in from a VHS. Yes, I don't know, but let's take a listen.

If you skip to about a minute 15 is where you see Bob Odenkirk come in. I'm looking now.

You're looking at the same thing. Oh, yeah, here's Bob Balaban. I'm going to start a little bit prior to that.

Being from New York, being a professional, and having put on some very theatrical productions here, is going to be directing the show this year, and I'm going to be the musical director,

which is different for me that was it thank you very nice so Bob that was it that was just Bob

Odenkirk dressed like some sort of a priest vampire priest vampire with it's so grainy it's hard to tell but he also his his almost like kind of makeup on like he was in a new wave band Yeah, it's like it's hard to – I wonder, like, if it hurt Bob Odenkirk's feelings that he went in, did this scene, and then later, you know, when he presumably saw the movie, was like, oh, they cut me out. I wonder if that was, like – if that was a blow to his ego or if that's just how it goes. And he knows as well as anyone because he had written on SNL and, of course, had, you know, had done the Mr. Show stuff.

Yeah, maybe just has been around long enough by this point just to, like, hey, if the check cleared or whatever. By the way, there's Corky wearing my Judy Tenuta T-shirt. That's right.

That led us down a whole Judy Tenuta.

I have that shirt now, by the way. Although I have a – I think I might need to talk to the doctor about this. I'm not joking. You mentioned yesterday or a couple of days ago on the show that one of the contractors working on your house didn't appreciate the heater you had set up because he has a perspiration problem. I'm starting to think I might have a legitimate medical condition. Like I am.

ruining t-shirts with my underarm perspiration now is it a nervous sweat or is it a temperature it seems to happen it's like a performative sweat like i don't think i don't think of myself as being nervous during tbtl luke i don't know if that yeah i don't know how that hits but i'm not nervous or after these messages you know but there is a certain amount of you know like kind of putting putting on a i hate to say this but a type of performance right and so afterwards often i have to change my shirt this goes for any this goes okay this goes for recording podcasts this goes for recording like our week and review videos or something like that uh and i have found at times that it even applies to meetings sometimes like having to like kind of like or where was i i was at a social event i was at we had talked about this phyllis p fletch fletcher's uh ceremony when she was inducted into the hall of fame for the university of washington school of communications and that was you know a very chill fun event was it when you spotted jerry brewer that you just

started maybe it was but a sprinkler system went off when i went to um when i went to hug chrissy

i said i can't hug you very strongly right now i don't think i use those words rules i said because mother says i can't hug women anymore but i had to like sort of tap her shoulder because i was like i can't stretch my arms out right now like i have something going on under my arms i cannot i cannot embrace you because it'll just be bad news for everybody well the first thing is you

probably should see a physician just generally becca said to me casually the other day um hey hon you know what you might want to have them do uh is do one of those full body scans on you Because you have a kind of, and she pointed to like a little, like a skin tag or something that I had on my arm. She goes, you have kind of a lot of those, especially on your back. And I went, but like sexy kind, right? Yeah, right, yeah. She laughed for about five full minutes. But I was going to say, you should see a doctor. You and I both should see a doctor. November 15th. Hey, look at that.

But you just saw a doctor. They said you're all good.

Who mostly wanted to give me food recommendations for Chicago.

Yeah.

Um, but, uh, and I have, you know, some follow-ups. Although the weird thing is they sent, I opted for the colonoscopy as he kept calling it, the gold standard of care. But then I just got from Kaiser the poop on a stick thing. Like the, the, the, they mailed me some poop on a stick. They just sent it to you without telling you Genevieve got that in the mail. I think it must just be at a certain age. Like they don't even ask. Like whoever, whatever system auto mails that to you, it did not get the word that I'm going to go for the full on you know mario brothers treatment anyway here's what i was if it's left

up to you because this is something i've been thinking about a lot when i see my doctor on the 15th i'm going to say you know i need i you know i need a scan and it doesn't have to be a colon or the colonoscopy well generally speaking don't they call it i'm sorry maybe it's not this what do they call it a um because they don't they don't say colonoscopy these days if you hear Like commercials, they say a colon cancer screening. I'm sorry. I said scan. I meant screening because it can take different shapes. It can be a colonoscopy traditionally, or you can submit a fecal sample like you just mentioned. And I think maybe those are the two main ones. But, like, that's why when I hear. Sometimes they'll just look at you. They'll just go. You're okay. You're good. Thumbs up or thumbs down. When I hear Steve Rabel. Steve, right? Why did it say weird? Talking about, like, getting, you know, it's a crucial catch. sunday get your you know um colon cancer screening they don't say colonoscopy because there's there are other options in there as we've talked about with people like phyllis p fletch fletcher uh on this very legacy for phyllis i think proudly for her she wants people to get to get scanned but anyway so the point is i have been thinking about that if they leave it up to me which i will which they will i think colonoscopy because either way it's going to be an unpleasant thing but i would rather just have somebody else take care of it for me i know that there's a lot of prep involved but i don't like the idea of collecting my own samples and having to yeah no it's gruesome i've

done it before you have to put a piece of paper over the toilet and then you go to the bathroom on the paper you've done it before yeah i did it i think with my last my doctor who weirdly showed

up at livewire yeah okay so you've had a screening then in the past you don't need to do one every

year do you that was only a few years ago um i everything seemed to check out then but it was a couple of years ago and i am 47 and i do i do uh you know consume far more alcohol i don't know if that if that in if that um elevates possible colon issues or not but like here's what here was my thinking it is if you if you if they go in

for a colonoscopy and they see polyps they just take them out they just like oh while you're there yeah while you're there while you're already under while you're already well they've already got you up on the up on the jacks yeah you sign a form that just says do it to it my dudes hey whatever you need like they I assume it's I assume it's not unlike bringing your 85 Honda Civic in they put it up on those yeah that thing that puts it up in the air and they get under there and take a look around while they're in there while they're spelunking if they see any kind of polyps they just snip them out and those are the things that can be problematic down the line and also if you get a colonoscopy and you come through it okay you don't need anything else for 10 years is the current standard of care so to me it felt like this is um you know a day of preparing a day of having the procedure and probably a day of kind of coming off the drugs to not have to think about it for 10 years yeah and that seemed appealing

to me yeah i think that that is what i would opt for assuming that i have some choices in these

matters and also david sedaris makes a very compelling argument for getting it i believe he was on conan o'brien's podcast and he said he gets it every year just for the drugs which i thought was probably only 50 of a joke there's a 50 chance that somebody in the area is getting

those drugs there's a hundred percent chance that david sedaris was 50 high

All right, let's thank some of our donors. These generous folks are keeping TBTL going. This, of course, is listener-supported, 100% listener-supported. And ideally, at some point, 10% T-shirt-supported. We get the merch site going.

I don't think a lot of people are going to be buying the T-shirts who aren't listeners. That's my guess. It would be amazing if it turns out we're better at T-shirt design than podcasting.

Wouldn't that be a plot twist? And I'll say also that I don't know why this is where I feel like I need to take the merch conversation. But I think it's great that we're launching something. And it's great that there will be more ways for folks to kind of rep TBTL and maybe support us a little bit. But unless the T-shirts are $100 a piece, which they're not going to be, you'd be surprised at how little you make on a T-shirt.

Yeah.

You know, like we want people wearing these T-shirts because it'll be fun for them. Maybe someone will ask them about TBTL. Maybe it'll put some pep in someone's step.

They make great gifts. We don't even have them yet, but they make great gifts.

Absolutely. For the upcoming holidays. But in the meantime, this thing is only happening because of folks like Cynthia Wilcox of Aurora, New York. Mmm, New York. Yeah, if you start out kind of in your neighborhood, Andrew, on Highway 90, on Aurora, and you just head due east, you'll end up in Aurora, New York.

Wow, I knew it was a big road. I didn't know it was that big. What if 90, because 90 actually does do that. That's one thing that always blows my mind, that I could hop on a highway not far from my house and take it all the way to Massachusetts right now, right? It ends in Boston, I think.

There's a funny sign in Seaside, Oregon, that says, as you're leaving, and it's a real sign made by the city that says, Boston, 2,400 miles or whatever. That's great. I love that. Like, the sand is still at your back. You're still, like, basically, I guess you're just leaving, like, a Pacific enclave and heading towards Boston, they think. I don't think that's, it's not I-90, if I remember right, because I-90 goes, obviously, up north of.

Yeah. Yeah, but 90 does, I mean, I know that we used to take 90 all the time when we were living in New England and we would be heading, you know, to, I don't know, the Midwest to visit family in Pennsylvania or Ohio. And it's funny to think that that is the same exact road that ends here not too far from me in Seattle.

Yeah, and if you were to get on I-90, Andrew, and head east, you might drive somewhere near where Glenn Ferguson lives because Glenn is in Bellevue, Washington.

Oh, yeah, I would definitely be waving at Glenn. Glenn, you want a ride? We're going to Boston.

I'm crossing Mercer Island. I'll be there. I'm taking the Island Channel Bridge, and I'll be there in five. We also have to thank Chris Vild. This is one of the best names ever. I've never been to this place, but I've always loved it for its name. Chagrin Falls, Ohio. I believe that's east side, right? Chagrin Falls, east side of Cleveland. I feel bad that I don't know where it is, Andrew. You might even say I'm a little chagrined that I don't know. I thought you were going to say, I would like to be sitting. No, I heard how mad that made you. Please don't be mean to Cleveland.

Yeah, it's there. It's east of Cleveland. It's past Cleveland Heights.

Is that a name for someone whose last name was Chagrin? Did Lloyd Chagrin found it? Hey, Lloyd. Hey, Lloyd. Do some founding for the fall. falls but like or was it that you know kind of like cape disappointment here or you know um what's the deception past there's a lot of things that are named for like something that went down was there someone who was chagrined about the existence of these falls and for what reason

i bet you chris vild knows yeah you you know you bring up a good point i was on the wikipedia page for the town um or the community but really i should be on the wikipedia page for the falls themselves because they existed first and they were called the chagrin falls first right but i

cannot figure they originally got their name from a french trader named francois seguin who traded with native americans in the early 1700s the river later adopted the name chagrin so it sounds like this guy francois seguin it became chagrin at one point the chagrin falls was the industrial center of northeast ohio and powered nine different mills i could be wrong about this but i think

there's a restaurant that my parents like in that area where you can watch the falls

some also say it comes from the native american word chagrin meaning clear water so i i want to make sure that i'm not erasing any history there around the place where our friend chris vild is from thank you i think we're all pretty clear on naperville illinois uh and what the origins of that place are and that's where angie panion is checking in from that's where all

the that's where all the napers used to run and hide when napering was illegal in the like was that the 19 like late 19 teens sanctuary city yeah actually if you were a naperer uh and you

were being chased by the revenuers you could hide out in naperville illinois exactly and then

eventually it kind of became and went from an underground community to just a community and then of course napering became legal again i want to say late 20s although i'm not sure and then you

had naperville that was angie's great great great grandfather solomon panion was one of the lead napers in naperville illinois so and here she is all these years later supporting our program with some of that money be proud thank you angie also thanks to aaron crabtree in olympia washington we love olympia maybe after the olympics that's true uh not too far from where i am i mean it's a it's a hike but it's not like a it's not a crazy it might be like an hour drive from here i could i could aaron i could be at your house having lunch later today just hit me up let me yeah all he needs is an invite geez aaron come on gosh it's you know you don't know your neighbors anymore andrew it reminds me of bowling alone it's like lunching alone but that was not bowling

alone that was putnam right it was good call i was but that's not scrambling but was that the no but

then it was a bill putnam yeah was david brooks the did david brooks write the one about how basically like we we build houses where we were big on our backyards on our front porches anymore i feel like there was a couple of these kind of social science books not that david brooks is particularly a social scientist but like a couple of these books that sort of encapsulated something that people just feel vaguely a sense of whether it's loneliness or that we're a little bit more antisocial or that it's i mean frankly i think it's it's kind of interesting that i'm as friendly with my neighbors out here as i am i mean i like it but it took me walking over to their houses and introducing myself and i i don't know i'm trying to think of what my history of of neighborliness is if i've always kind of known i mean i guess yes i knew rich and linda very well up in bellingham sure uh dolores my other neighbor who i don't know if she's still around she was edging north of 100 last i checked um by the way rudy is having a elective surgery today she's having a facelift no she's having she's having a mommy makeover where they they fix they fix all of it yeah no she's um has a cracked tooth oh that's being replaced but they got to give you a general she just turned 10 the other day my old me old dog rudy just if anybody wanted a rudy update rudy is thriving how'd she crack her tooth i didn't i didn't want to i don't want to dig too deep on that i didn't want you know because it's like really bar fight i leave the dog for four years and it gets a cracked tooth okay interesting parenting skills now anyway for folks wondering rudy is doing great but i believe as we speak rudy is enjoying some of those good good David Sedaris drugs we also want to thank Megan Hamilton in St. Louis Missouri

how did it get the name St. Louis

when I think of St. Louis I think of the St. Louis Arch and I think of a couple of things one I think that it's still endlessly funny to me that Mick Jagger took a picture with it because it's just like a year ago or two years ago also I think that was the same trip where he was just going around to bars and like having a beer like sans bodyguards, and no one even recognized it as Mick Jagger. which I adore but then I also think about the fact that I think that arch was designed by Eero Saarinen the very influential architect and what I think about with that is that when I did that beer commercial 20 plus years ago now, it was directed by Eric Saarinen, Eero Saarinen's son, and I remember somebody going, his dad was Eero Saarinen and that meant nothing to me at the time, Andrew, I had absolutely no context you were like i don't read lord of the rings thank you um just leave those hobbits alone dude i now would all the entire commercial because we were all just filming for like a couple of weeks in canada all i would have been doing was asking about the time his dad designed the twa terminal at jfk or the building of the st louis arch or what were the eam what were ray and charles eems like or what would did you meet did he meet neutra like all of this kind of mid-century architecture and design that i'm totally obsessed with this guy aerosarnin was a hugely influential figure in all of that and i i was hanging out with his son for weeks and never asked him what maybe was a relief to him but i am like i i i rue i rue the missed opportunity i would like to visit

st louis now i'm not saying that to make things awkward between me and megan hamilton our donor today you don't have to put me up you don't have to give me any recommendations of places to go mostly i just want to see the arch but like st louis seems like a really cool american city that doesn't get as much attention as other american cities i let's see i was there briefly i also

took a picture in front of the st louis arch and i think i put it on twitter hey look at me i'm Mick Jagger. I'm trying to remember my impression of the place. It was pretty brief, my time there. I think I thought it was a pretty cool town, though. I'm trying to remember what I was doing in Missouri. Oh, I think I might have been doing a story about shipping container homes, and it was somewhere just outside of St. Louis. Okay. So I can't, what I saw of St. Louis I really liked, but I think I was only there very briefly. I will tell you, the arch is dope as hell. I believe it. It really is a very, very cool kind of monument.

Seattle should build an arch.

They really should. And then kind of squeeze the middle part and then let it kind of come out of the top and then put like a spike on top.

Oh, sure. I could see that. Kind of a spacey design, sort of like a needle. Sure. Hello and welcome to Top Story.

All right. This is kind of a serious story, but with such weird elements, Andrew, that I feel like we're obligated to talk about it. we owe the people the listeners uh our take on it um you'll notice i did not use the sky jinx sound effect for this because this is much above the level of are we boarding the windows first right this is not this is a guy who's now facing 83 counts of attempted murder which is a pretty serious charge his name is joseph emerson and he uh is described as an off-duty alaska airlines pilot who uh the other uh afternoon it was actually on sunday i think sunday night he was flying in the jump seat which most people probably know this but like there's actually three seats in the cockpit and a lot of times pilots who are trying to get back home or get somewhere that aren't flying the plane themselves will just ride in the jump seat and this guy is alleged to have grabbed these like emergency kind of fire extinguisher kind of controls that basically cut all of the fuel to the engine so i guess if the engines were to catch on fire you would pull these so that uh you wouldn't be feeding that fire but of course it also means the engines stop and you go into a glide and he is reported to have said something to these he was apparently behaving sort of normally and he's in the jump seat and then he said something allegedly like i'm not okay and then he reached for these two things pulled them down it's unclear i don't think the engines actually turned off there's a little reserve fuel in the line and luckily you had two pilots in there who quickly like undid the damage so i don't think it actually even impacted the flight other than it could have been a really bad scene um and so they they kicked him out of the cockpit they sort of wrestled him away from the stuff kicked him out of the cockpit he then apparently just walked through the plane kind of without you know by himself walked back to the back of the plane and told one of the flight attendants you need to handcuff me or it's gonna it's gonna be bad and so they did and i went so when i first read this story i thought this is really bizarre i go this sounds like the behavior of a drunk person but i go but if he had reeked of alcohol they wouldn't have let him on the plane or into the jump seat so what was going on and there is some indication

that he may have taken mushrooms he apparently told the police when he got off the plane that he had just taken mushrooms for the first time and he thought he was having a dream and he wanted to wake up from it so he was grabbing those those that emergency stuff and i just i when i read that i was like and i'm not saying this to be glib this is almost the worst case scenario of having a bad drug trip right i mean fortunately no one was hurt the the worst case scenario is people are injured or lose their lives but right next to that is this right like you you take mushrooms for the first time you have a bad experience and you pretty much ruin the rest of your life on one move like it just reads like such a again it just is really like i'm not to center him in the story but like for whatever's going on with this guy which sounds like he'd been dealing with some depression and other issues he had reported to police but this is you know if if you've ever been at a music concert and got the fear, like, and you're like, oh, I don't want to be on this anymore. Like this is just as bad as it gets for an outcome of like having a bad trip. I could think other than people actually losing their lives.

Now here's the one detail I read about this and I'm looking for the actual article that I was reading this morning because this is one of those stories that sort of, I, I, you know, we got the information drip by drip as it kind of came more and more into focus over the past several days. But maybe it was yesterday morning. I was reading whatever version the Seattle Times had, which I think was locally reported. But they had said that he had taken mushrooms for the first time, but it had been 40 hours prior. Oh, I don't think I saw. Or something like he had taken mushrooms.

Well, he was having insomnia. He said he hadn't slept for 40 hours. Yeah, I thought he'd taken the mushrooms the day before.

I thought that what I read, and I could be wrong about this, and the fact that I can't find the quote right now means, I guess take this with a grain of Sybilcybin no what's it called Psilocybin I knew I was going to ruin that joke Psilocybin Mushrooms are for people that aren't taking them for the first time But anyway I sort of got the Impression that it was outside the window That this drug would still have Its effects normally That it was like There was the lack of sleep for 40 hours There were mushrooms taken for the first time At some point during this but not like he had taken mushrooms and gotten on the plane and he was tripping on the plane i took it to mean like this just sort of seemed like a big mental breakdown with various factors and complications involved i could be wrong about that but i just want to kind of throw that out there before because i do sort of feel like people are like the guy was tripping balls on the plane i'm like i don't think that's exactly right i think that there was some drug use involved in this multi-day

mental breakdown i think you're right i think there are a variety of factors i think that um It sounds like he hadn't slept in a long time. He had been dealing with emotional distress He did report that he had taken mushrooms for the first time. My sense was that it was Closer to the event, but not like he took him as he was boarding the plane So it's impossible for us to know and might be impossible for anyone except him to ever really know Exactly why this all came together in this way but my other question and this is not the kind of thing we normally talk about but I I keep going back and forth on the question of attempted murder of 83 people, like by a very strict definition, that's exactly what he did. He attempted to murder or he attempted to kill 83 people. That's a hugely serious thing. But also he had a mental breakdown where he was near a thing that could have, if he would have been by himself in the cockpit or whatever, could have led to people losing their lives. Does that does that charge? First of all, I have a feeling that is not going to be the ultimate charge. Don't you think that that's got to come down off of? I mean, that's a thousand years in jail.

Yeah. No. And by the way, just just here is the quote that I was seeing. And this is in the lead sentence of The Seattle Times article that was written up by The Seattle Times. It says had long been struggling with mental health issues and took psychedelic mushrooms two days, about two days before the incident. So two full days of, you know, having passed since he took those mushrooms. So for whatever that's worth. And I'm with you on that. I mean, I think isn't that the way these things usually play out? Like you you hear about or the prosecution will sort of set the bar very high at the beginning. I mean, I'm you know, even could we see this get ratcheted down to attempted manslaughter?

you know yeah it's just weird because there's like there's there's a sort of thought-out planned out attempt to end a bunch of people's lives or to end a life and then there's just like a person in a mental health crisis and you know whatever swirling of things are going on like I when I heard like a attempted murder 83 counts of attempted murder I was like that's insane but then I thought he did attempt to bring the plane down which would have led to the death of of 84 people himself included so

I don't know what the, I don't know what the appropriate kind of, the other thing too, and again, I'm, I know this is a serious topic and we're not a very serious show, but like something about this fascinates me because I'm, I've always been very fascinated with people for whom one moment of their life defines the rest of their life. like there are people who have a track record of of plotting violence against people or they plan out a crime or there's a there's somebody who's been a career you know dangerous person there's all these different forms that it takes and then there's somebody who just does something through whatever series of factors and it just like i i think about him just like waking up you know uh you know monday morning i think they took him at like 5 a.m maybe it's tuesday morning who knows He may not be sleeping in there if he has insomnia, but it's like this. I'm very fascinated with the initial court appearance of people who've done something that's just totally out of character and has now defined the rest of their life. This is, again, a very dark place to take this. But there was an incident in Portland where a guy this was like two weeks ago in downtown Portland and a part of Portland that I'm in constantly where a guy had pulled his car over and was kind of doing that thing like where you have your hazards on, but you're kind of blocking. and another guy came by him and they got into an argument and you know words were exchanged and the one guy goes and parks his car and then walks over to kind of like continue sort of giving the guy a piece of his mind and the guy in the car shoots him and the guy dies and then he shoots somebody else who was videotaping and that person luckily survived and i was just this guy who did this thing in portland i was looking i was doing some research on him he was a like a basically a crypto trader of some kind and there's like video of him from like a crypto conference in new york city where he's just standing on stage in a suit taking people through this incredibly complicated like rules around like the financial system and crypto and he's a guy he's about my age maybe a little bit younger and he's just standing there and i'm and then i see this picture of him showing up in court and it's just like again not to not to empathize with or center the experience of the person who did the crime or did the bad thing but i just i guess i feel like i i don't know i'm i'm i find that to be a very very something i'm i'm fascinated with and i don't know why i don't know if it's because i feel fortunate that that in my life and all my bad decision making there's never been something on that level i'm not really sure why but i but like to look at that person and just think what is going through their mind i don't know why that's always been very it's sort of i guess darkly fascinating for me yeah i mean and you're you're specifically thinking about or

addressing the particularly dark, particularly intense moments. And, and I get that. In fact, I mean, it's really hard for me to put words around this, but a lot of the feelings that I have, and I don't even mean bad feelings like the anxieties, but I mean, empathetic feelings I have towards, towards people, um, I think are because I truly believe that all of us, even those of us who look, um, you know, from the outside, like, uh, everything is going really swimmingly. Like, I feel like every human being is just like walking a tightrope much more than we give ourselves credit for. I'm speaking mentally. I'm talking even chemically, like, like you say, like one, one bad day of acting completely outside your norm for whatever reason, because we, because like we have this chemical makeup inside of ourselves that is, I just think like kind of, you know, kind of hard to balance, you know, and we see, you know, a person who's living a quote unquote like kind of normal or standard life might see glimpses of, well, I'm having a bad day. Well, what happened to you? Well, nothing bad happened to me. I'm just having one of those days where everything that comes in front of me looks sour or gives me a bad feeling. And I can't explain why. You know, you can say I got up on the wrong side of the bed. You know, it doesn't have to be super, super serious. But like we know that we fluctuate for no reason. Right. And then you have somebody who and then and then if you start adding some economic factors or other emotional factors or whatever so i am somebody who does think that like they're whenever i see anybody struggling in almost any way i think they're but by the grace of god go i like quite literally like put that on my tombstone well let's keep it none let's keep god off also i thought you wanted to

be cremated and then shot into space i do you can be with hunter s thompson that's right just

that's your number one request dust to dust for me don't don't let me take up a footprint but

anyway I'm with you though I think that's well said like I think I kind of feel like and again I'm not I hope it doesn't sound like I'm excusing anyone's behavior or sympathizing with some with people that have done horrible things but I just kind of I feel the same way I'm like man that I could see a universe in which that's me in wearing that jumpsuit and and and not somebody else and and that's just that's just a thought that goes through my head a lot yeah i'm taking this i actually was gonna say something else but i'll say something to you that i think this is a strong lead into the blurs days i've said this to other people before i feel like i'm taking this into a darker place than it needs to be but um when i lived in the roosevelt neighborhood of seattle washington we lived on that kind of main stretch there on roosevelt ave and it was not uncommon to hear people with mental illness issues you know walking up and down the street sometimes just screaming top of their lungs sometimes and i know one fella would often do it for some reason on very early sunday mornings and it is such a terrible thing to listen to to to hear a human being in that amount of distress and you don't understand you i simply don't have the tools to understand what is going on to make that person act that way in that moment but also if that's unpleasant to me what is it like to be that person what is going on in their brain right now what do they think their reality is because whatever it is it's not good it's not comfortable it's such a place of deep upset and i think about that a lot and i think one of their and again this kind of goes to i do think i'm not trying to pat myself on the back but i do think i tend to be an empathetic person and i think you know an example of that or maybe the reason for that is because i look at that and i'll be like oh man poor son of a gun geez louise and then i'll go back to my kitchen and start washing dishes and find myself muttering to myself stupid idiot like i look i literally this morning like early early this morning like the cats woke me up bingo's got a way of waking me up right now that is a fail safe way of waking me up and it pisses me off so much I'll tell you about that in a second but I had a thought this morning I couldn't get back to sleep after he tickled my god damn foot and got me to jump out of bed and to kick him out of the room and then I tried to go back to bed and um I had an intrusive feeling thought about an awkward oh yeah well I don't have to go into the details of it because it's just too awkward but like just some awkward conversation I had with a girl a teenage girl when I was 16 years old a girl that I met on the bus and I remember like being whatever it's a weird story that doesn't sort of fit in with most of my narrative I just met this this girl did not have any connections to my friends she didn't go to the she didn't go to St. Joe's or Magnificat she was just somebody who wrote public transportation and she was this cool looking kind of punky girl and somehow like we hung out once I developed a crush on her from afar and somehow i don't know exactly how or why she ended up visiting me at my parents house and i remember her like making fun of my metallica tapes i remember thinking i should

have gotten rid of that metallica tape before i invited a girl over here and i don't remember what it was about that interaction but something around six in the morning hit me and i was awake with so much self hatred is a strong word but so much embarrassment and a certain sort of pain coursing through me and i had to be like andrew what are you doing you were 16 like yeah that was 30 years ago and it wasn't even something specific like i didn't do it was just like this weird memory of like not being cool in the moment i'm surprised to hear so anyway my point is if i'm having that shit happen randomly at age 46 in my middle class middle age lifestyle like what is going on with the person who because of the chemicals and because of life happening around him and those chemicals leads him to scream at the top of his lungs by himself on a walk up and down Roosevelt Avenue you know it just always sort of seems to me like yeah we're not I don't feel like any of us are that far away from that or at least certainly not me maybe I shouldn't say anybody but you know if I'm muttering to myself oh you stupid idiot when you're thinking back about something you did 30 years ago that caused absolutely no harm in the world like right what is it like to dratchet that up a million times it's also like what is the evolutionary component

of that in other words the fact that your brain that we developed this i'm sorry i knocked my space heater over i'm trying to not burn the studio down while i'm talking to you that's a good priority this is one of those safe ones that can't really okay we're good that can't really light the room on fire you know they've mostly upgraded them in the safety department but like there's some at some point in natural selection there was something useful about us human beings remembering something that didn't go great so as to then do it better the next time avoid that situation it didn't go great because like we were at the watering hole and a saber tooth tiger almost got us so there was some usefulness to it but it's like the the the faucet for that in your brain is stuck on wide open and it's like we need to get in there and just get it down to just being a little drip i think i'd have sound effects for that with all

my new we have i i feel like it was like we're at the watering hole and some saber-tooth tiger made fun of our cassette tape of master with puppets master master of puppets why did i mess that up and

But, yeah, I would like to—oh, this one is just on—this is on Infinity Loop. Now it's just—maybe this is honestly where the show eventually is going, Andrew. It's just white noise? Mm-hmm. Well, some might say that we're basically making white noise. No, no, that's white guy noise. Totally different.

Can that be the show title?

I believe so. I'm up for that. Do you want to talk about stickers before the Blurs days? Or do we want to push that for tomorrow?

You know, I'll just say this. For those who saw last week's newsletter, I don't know why I wrote about this other than it was something that had been on my mind lately and I didn't know what to write about in the newsletter. But I've been seeing a lot of these bumper stickers on cars much increasingly in the past several years that warn that the driver behind the wheel is a new driver. And I just started contemplating that. I'm like, that's sort of a new phenomenon. We didn't have that growing up. And so I wrote about that a little bit. And then I got a lot of feedback from listeners. So maybe if we find ourselves with, you know how we often find ourselves with nothing to talk about, Luke? If we find ourselves in that position at some point, I can sort of do a little roundup on that. But there's no need to do it now.

All right. Blur's away then.

There's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll. You can't just listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one. You can't be having so much fun.

Can I say one more thing, Luke, about this idea that like a moment, a single moment can have a huge impact on your life? Because I ended up taking it to an increasingly dark place in the last segment. But the truth is, I wanted to mention that it doesn't always have to be negative, but it is something that I probably in my past have thought about maybe too much in the moment in a way that might create anxiety. Because I'm thinking of like times that I've, I mean, as a much younger man, gone on job interviews, right? And like this is going to be the one like when I was first applying for jobs out of college, I was applying for all kinds of public radio jobs. They were all public radio, but I was applying for things from like tech jobs, like working in the engineering department to news reporter and producer jobs to just like audio mixing jobs. And it's like an announcing jobs. And depending on which fool hired me for one of those jobs would have had a huge impact on what the rest of my life was going to be. And I was very conscious of that. And I think that it can be somewhat it can be somewhat stifling if you think about things like that too much. And I think there have been times in my life where I'm just like this moment. And I wonder sometimes when I feel anxiety about going someplace new or something, if it's a little bit of a of a hangover of sort of feeling like, well, this moment could really change the trajectory of my life. You ever have that? You know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, I do. I do. I think it manifests a little differently in me. But I definitely know that feeling. I'm kind of feeling like you're in a classic Ben Affleck sliding doors type situation. Exactly.

Exactly. Some of his best work. I'm also stalling here because I only have two Blur's days. We're recording this a little bit earlier than usual, so my apologies. If you feel like you got your Blur's day in on time but we're missing you today, my apologies. We'll try to make it up next week.

You're not going to be sad if you're not featured this week because my audio accompaniment, Andrew, is just going to be different audio notes that are still in my system here. That's the good one. That's Bass Chair C. I thought you actually deleted all these. I thought I did too, but there's, I mean, it was thousands of files, and I think there's like 10 of them left. Uh-huh. Nice. Okay, well, keep those handy. So I've got these ready to go, and this is how I'm going to celebrate people who are, like someone's going to get celebrated with Bass Even Sync C. Okay, don't. Oh, no, don't. Let's wait for it. I've still got Bass Liftum C. Don't worry.

Kara says, hey, friendos. I want to drop a Blur's Day shout out to my buddy Schaefer, proprietor of the excellent Front Page Bar here on the east side of Austin, Texas. Of course. So glad to hear it's still going well. I know that they opened right as the pandemic hit, I want to say, or maybe even during. I might have my timeline somewhat messed up there, but I'm glad to know that the Front Page is still doing well. Great name for a bar. Kara says Schaefer is a gem of a human. He pours a fine Guinness, and he lets me provide thoughtful. No. Why did I just add the word thoughtful? He lets me provide impromptu harmonies when he brings his sixth string to work on a slow Sunday night. Cheers to Schaefer. Heck yeah. The word thoughtful isn't in there at all. Well, you know that Schaefer's thoughtful. Schaefer is thoughtful. Who is wishing Schaefer a happy birthday? That's from Kara, also very thoughtful. You know, Kara's thoughtful. I mean, I think, listen, if you're going to slip on a word, if you're going to insert a word with these listeners, I think thoughtful is a pretty safe bet.

Yeah, it's certainly better than jerk face. Absolutely. Jerk face in North Bend. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Sally in North Bend, Washington. Sorry that you had to be the target of that joke, Sally. Sally, very thoughtful Sally in North Bend, Washington says, happy, a very happy 19th Blur's Day to my youngest five, Grace Piper. I'm so proud of your adventurous spirit, your ability to play and sustain a single note on a fake guitar. Oh, interesting. Oh, you mean like an FM bass, FM slap, F, three sharp? I am so proud of your adventure spirit bravely taking off for the University of Calgary. Oh, nice. Whatever I just did made me cough. We need some more notes from you.

Don't worry. I've got plenty. This one's not this one. Actually, this one's probably too long. This is bass analog receiver E. It's eight seconds. Whoa, dude.

I've never been so happy. Was that enough? That I am hosting this by myself, I mean, without your hosting, obviously, but that there's nobody in the room with me here, that was a terrible coughing situation. Hey, you know what, Andrew?

I've been meaning to tell you, I have, I'm not even kidding you, I have emergency audio ready to go, and I thought of this the other day. I have the Michael Caine impression off from the trip. I have just something that's just listed as Phyllis Diller Wait-Wait. I think it's me interviewing Phyllis Diller when I was guest hosting Wait, Wait. And then, of course, I have our good friend. Not really, but I have.

As there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame.

I also have the entire Tom Brenneman situation. Oh, wow. So if we ever find ourselves really stuck, if we go into mutual coughing fits, just know that I'm just going to start playing this. You know, your whole career, at least a lot of it comedically, has really been based on kind of the idea that you're unattractive. But I saw you in Los Angeles in The Person, and I don't think that's true at all. I'm kind of wondering how you came up with that persona and that kind of line of comedy.

Well, when I first started, I knew nothing about makeup or hair, and I really was a sight.

Wow. Phyllis Diller. Nice.

Listen to that young Lukey B.

Yeah, you do sound young. I was wondering if you were playing that, if you had saved that tape because her response was going to be cringy or something. I don't even know why. Kind of a bold question.

In digging, it's the boldest of a much younger Burbank. In digging through like all like just kind of, you know, all the audio that is now, I now have access to from the old. I pray to the old audio gods and the new Andrew. I just saw that. And I literally did. I grabbed these three things in case we ever need to. Well, broadsheet journalists have described my impressions as stunningly accurate. Well, they're wrong.

Goddamn Steve Coogan and Rob Brydon. That's really good. I don't know what happened to cause that coughing fit. Like, the noises I made when I killed my microphone were. So, I was reading Sally's.

Would you say it's being too healthy?

I would say it's being too healthy. No, it didn't feel like anything related to my lifestyle for a change. Oh, okay. It was just like I had –

It was not a lifestyle-related incident.

I had not – I had taken a weird breath or I had made some funny noise or something. I totally didn't. It sort of frayed like the back of my throat, but I couldn't stop. I wanted to finish this sentence and this blurs. And so I tried – what happened was I tried to power through. If I was by myself, I just would have adjusted. If I was by myself, I shouldn't have been reading a blurs day probably. But, yeah, there was this thing where I tried to power through, and then the more I powered through, the more I realized, oh, my God, this is going to be bad news. But what is really bad news is that this has happened right in the middle of Sally's Blur's Day. I'm going to start fresh here. Forget all of that, Sally.

Let's reset everyone together. Okay, now we're back in the right state of mind.

Thoughtful Sally in North Bend, Washington, says, A very happy 19th Blur's Day to my youngest five, Grace Piper. I am so proud of your adventurous spirit, bravely taking off for the University of Calgary to study history education. Here is the new version of the rules. Have fun. Don't do anything dumb. Don't add to or subtract from the population and stay out of newspapers, hospitals and jails.

Don't.

Smarty pants dance. Smarty pants dance. I love that. That don't add to or reduce the population is pretty... Do not add to or subtract from the population.

I'm happy to say I have yet to subtract from the population that I know of, but I did add to it. And the one that I added to it is named Grace.

Oh, good call. Full circle. Happy Blur's Day, Grace Piper. Congratulations. I'm making it to the University of Calgary. Good luck with the school. There's no whining in football.

But every August, football comes to wine country.

Oh, my God.

It's never a bad time for a little bit of Liev Schreiber. By the way, he came in Hard Knocks this year. He shows up at the Jets camp because he lives presumably in New York.

I had heard that they had broken the fourth wall sort of.

They broke the fourth wall, and it was great. It was good? He's great. He's so likable. Oh, I love him. Yeah, he is a very likable guy. I only know him as – I guess you're right. I guess they're a slunk jeep, but I think of Liev Schreiber as being such a serious person. but he was he was exactly the way that I would hope I would be at that Jets camp in other words he was stoked to see everyone he was self-deprecating Aaron Rodgers kept dragging him around to people and being like this is the voice of hard knocks you could tell that Liev Shriver was aware that that didn't mean anything to anyone like so it again not that I think I'm him or anything close to him but like i just he had the right amount of humility but also was funny and and and kind of had a little swagger but wasn't didn't seem cocky like i don't know everything about what at least what they left in of liev shriver the voice of hard knocks visiting the set of hard knocks if we're going to call the football field a set now uh he came off as a

person who i found very likable i fell in love with him last christmas season no i think two Christmases ago somebody on social media somebody on the line I was on the e-line and I know how you got him back to your house he was off yeah um mixed nuts is a movie with Steve Martin that came out in 1994 and somebody I follow on Twitter back then said something like mixed nuts is like

my favorite holiday sleep you know who was very stoked that I that I name-checked mixed nuts to

her is Juliette Lewis who was in it oh yeah Juliette Lewis is in it as well so you are familiar with

this film yes it is so good right yeah i have to say it was a long long long time ago that i saw it so i um but i just remember it being i remember that she was in it and when i mentioned it when we were chatting i was interviewing her for cbs she was like oh my god you saw mixed nuts i was

like yes well i didn't see it until a couple of years ago and i'm always looking for like that right like a some sort of a weird nostalgic style like some sort of a movie that even though Adam Sandler in it it does have Adam Sandler and Liev Schreiber plays so it's about like a crisis hotline and um and so like a bunch of people who I mean are dealing with various degrees of mental crisis sort of all congregate around Steve Martin who I believe is the therapist who's maybe like starting to starting to be over it I don't remember the details but Liev Schreiber plays I don't think a trans woman but uh somebody dressed in drag as a woman the whole time and my memory of this and again i just saw it two years ago my memory of it was the actually it was like a pretty damn respectful tone yes like this his character was so lovable and and it wasn't like hey get a load of get a load of this nut you know i know it's called mixed nuts so you'd think oh they're not going to be handling this with you know in 1994 I can't tell you that note for note the movie about people having mental crises holds up but I will say that Liev Schreiber was amazing in it and it my memory was it was handled pretty well I have a feeling this is not going to pay off

no not it's another thing that says hard knocks and I wanted it to be more Liev Schreiber we need to just get a lot i need to get a lot more lieve loaded in here well here do you i have a little

bit of lieve uh with adam sandler in mixed nuts here this is a drop are you a professional ukulele

player oh no i'm a writer what do you write t-shirts really i wrote save the dolphins excuse me what do you mean you wrote it i wasn't the first person to say it i was the first person and put it on a t-shirt did you do life as a beach oh i wish i met the guy who wrote that at a party

he kind of snubbed me you know i don't think i ever used the end of it it really is i remember

being charmed by the film yeah well maybe i'll i can i see on amazon i can buy it on dvd and you know i've got that dvd player yeah well still yet to set up but it's sitting here in the room right next to me. So.

all of that is to say happy blurs day leo shriver absolutely and to all of our other blurs day honorees honorees it's an honor just to be nominated to the tb chill blurs to our blurs day inductees yes first ballot all of them uh thanks for listening everybody we are going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you so please do take a moment to join your old friends luke and andrew for that in the meantime have a great thursday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all power out