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What's happening? Nothing. It's just, I think a furry snuck in and then he's scritching. What's a furry? It's not a big deal. What's a furry? A furry is simply just someone who likes to dress up like an animal with human characteristics. It's a form of role play. It's huge. Yeah, that's great. But then the scritching thing you said, what is that? Scritching is simply light scratching or grooming. It's a form of affection. Furries love to do it. I do that. It's fun for them. Exactly. We all do it. I was in the other room and one of them kind of bumped into me. I thought the guy was going for my wallet, so I turned around real quick. Uh, it seemed different. Did he yip or did he yiff? Uh, he said skip, and I said, no, my name's Buddy. Okay, he yipped. If he yipped, that means hello. If he yiffs, if that happens, well, then you got a problem. Yeah, you know what? Might have been yiff. Might have been yiff. Well, if it happens again, just go grauf.

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All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. This is where I play this. It's an audiophile's nightmare. I mean, I have to say, if I'm going to mess up an audio drop, this is a good one to mess up. It's an audiophile's nightmare. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

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Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia. Sorry if I'm sounding a little distracted. There are construction folks that were walking up to what I thought was maybe the doorway of the studio. I didn't know if I was going to need to go. I don't even want to say inspect some work. It's kind of funny because all of the folks that have been out here have actually just been really awesome people and treat me with a level of respect that I frankly do not deserve in the Department of Home Improvement. Sometimes a guy will come out here when I'm recording or just kind of working on my computer and knock on the door and be like, should we go ahead and use a quarter inch on that? Or would you just should we should we countersink it? What would you like to do? And I just I pause. I try to pause very thoughtfully and then go, I would countersink it if I were you. I mean, if you think that's the best way to do it. I mean, if it were your house, if I were you and then it just falls apart. So I thought that one of those questions was going to be asked of me, but that is not what's happening. What's happening, my friends, is that we are at episode 4063 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. It's a Friday edition of the show. We are heading into that weekend, people's, and I am going to spend it going wild on some yard-related projects here at the Madrona Hill Studio.

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Talk about if I should be raking those leaves. We'll finally get to that story this week and also some whiz-bang composting stuff that I saw that has me thinking, which is not something I like to do, but it has me thinking. Also, if you're not doing yard stuff this weekend, you might be out celebrating Halloween.

You know, Halloween is fast approaching.

Because this, of course, is the weekend before Halloween. This Saturday will be when everyone's out doing their celebrating, although certain actors, actors that are members of the Screen Actors Guild.

You know, it's just living truthfully in imaginary circumstances.

They have been instructed by the union what not to dress up as. And some of them are not very happy about it, publicly so. So we'll dig into that. Oh, and we'll talk to this guy, longest running co-bro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. By the time you're hearing this, he may have already touched down in beautiful Cleveland, Ohio.

He has a very sudden midlife crisis. He lands in Cleveland.

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Yes. As you listen to this, I'm probably in Cleveland, but as of right now, as I broadcast to you, I'm still here in the confines of my studio in Seattle, Washington, where something small but magical happened to me earlier this week, Luke. That's how I describe my lovemaking. Yes. Wow. There you go. Um, I, uh, this hasn't happened to me in so long. I was in the kitchen doing something. I think this was Monday morning, and I was getting ready to dial up with you.

And I came into my office, and I realized I had more time than I thought I did. And I was like, okay. And then I went about my business or whatever. And then a second time in the morning, maybe it was even after we were done recording the show, I looked at the clock, and I realized, whoa, it's not as late as I thought. I actually have a good 10 minutes before I have to do X, Y, or Z. And then I realized what happened. I looked down at my watch that I wear on my wrist, which is not a digital watch. It's an analog watch. And it had been so long since I was wearing a watch that I was actively referring to or referencing, and it was 10 minutes fast. Or maybe it was like eight minutes fast. And it was like the perfect amount of fast because everything I thought I was late for, I had actually a couple of minutes buffer going into. And I had this moment where I thought, well, maybe I should leave it eight minutes fast. But then I was like, no, the jig is up. Like, once you're actively doing that, then you start doing some sort of subconscious math.

You start adjusting for it.

You start adjusting for it, even if you try not to. So the dream was over. I took off the watch. I reset it. But those moments, that half a day where I was afforded eight free minutes every time I walked into another room was quite magical.

I actually have been living in that same fantasy world pretty much continuously, Andrew, for I don't know how long. because the laptop computer that I use to prepare the show every morning, I have a MacBook Air, which I just kind of carry around the house with me. I carry it out here and work on it. It's what I take on trips and what I broadcast from if I'm at a hotel. It's not the computer that's sitting right in front of me. That's like my kind of, that's my main now audio center everything. The other one, though, is somehow about eight or nine minutes fast. and the reason that this continues to have the desired effect of making me first feel kind of like oh shit we got a dial here and then looking at my phone which is constantly talking to the satellite and realizing no i got like eight minutes it's because i don't understand how the clock on the laptop can be off it's digital yeah it's it's talking to the internet there's it's i believe you know it's it's not a watch and by the way i don't want to i don't want to bring up anything that's complicated for you but is this the watch that was given to you as a gift which is which is takes a certain amount of um of kind of uh let's just say care to keep it within

the proper time frame it's fine to talk about that it's probably you're probably really just trying to save the audience from an overly detailed uninteresting conversation oh i think it's an amazing story about relationships i had a watch that was my grandfather's now my grandfather was a kid who grew up like very poor and kind of on the road and then as a young adult you know found himself in cleveland ohio and that's where you know over the years somehow he ended up starting his own company as a real real i wouldn't say rags to riches but it was a real like kind of kind of the american dream kind of a bootstrappy story and so then he ends up hiring his sons and that's how you end up with what was at first walsh and sons manufacturing and then eventually Walsh manufacturing which my dad and my uncle ran until they retired and so having said that like my grandfather's kind of taste in things tended to be maybe a little bit more gaudy than you know I mean if you were to pull up to their little house in Fairview Ohio you wouldn't it's not like Trumpy in that way but like the type of jewelry that he might buy would be like big ass rings or like big ass watches or something like that but when he passed away I was very surprised when my dad said hey you know we were going through grandpa's things and there was this watch that I thought you might like and he showed it to me and I had never seen my grandfather wear a watch like this before it's a very simple classic like 1960s like leather leather band I probably had to replace the band I'm assuming but a very simple designy little watch from the 60s and I loved it and I wore it all the time and not only did i love the way it looked it made me it i felt like i had my grandfather with me like i i liked the little reminder that it was my grandpa's watch but um eventually it did break i had it kind of repaired a couple of times but it is it's not a swiss watch i can't remember what country it comes from but like i had a watch shop here in seattle like scouring literally the world uh for a certain part that it was missing then my dad said i bet you i can my guy can fix it in cleveland so this watch shop in cleveland has had this watch now for since before the pandemic and they're like every time my dad goes to pick it up they're like well we still have an alert out for this one stem piece or something i was like all right well hang on so okay that was the original watch and i loved that son of a gun and that was a that was a watch that you had to wind up to keep it No.

on time but it also had one of those um self kind of regulating things with motion it would sort of it would self-wind with motion um so i when that when i couldn't wear that anymore because it was broken um it was a real bummer for me and genevieve bought me i think maybe a year later or so uh a very similar watch slightly different brand but same era same look a very very cool looking watch but that one was just it never quite worked right again it was pretty old but um whoever sold it to genevieve i think she bought it on you know like on you know ebay ebay or something along those lines and it just wasn't yeah it just like it just had its issues um and i wore it as much as i could but it didn't keep time right and i had to keep i'd have to reset it i think once a day or every couple of days and genevieve was always like please just like take the watch off i appreciate that you like it but clearly it's not doing its one job which is to tell you the time and i was like honestly and this is this was not me shining her on um the first christmas gift she ever got me i immediately opened it and said can we return it i'm not a robe guy um so this is not so you're not like shy about letting people know and it's not going to Exactly. But I said, and I truly believe I was like, I do have to be much more present about this watch on my wrist. I have to check it in the morning, make sure it's still got the right time, wind it, keep an eye on things. And there was an intentionality of this watch. And even though it wasn't my grandfather's watch, it still looked like it. And now it seemed like, well, the son of grandpa's watch, which is a horror movie I plan on watching on Halloween. no like it still felt very special to me it still felt very special but eventually that thing just totally shit the bed like just totally and so and i think genevieve might have been kind of glad of that because i think she always felt hey here comes chagrin falls again i think she always felt a little bit chagrined when i would say no no i don't mind that this watch is imperfect i like keeping up with it i think she was probably glad just to not have to see me look down and ask if it's the middle of the day or the middle of the night anymore um but then she that's why i said

i thought it was a conversation about relationships because obviously there is that feeling of like if somebody does something really thoughtful for you like that you really want to appreciate them and appreciate it um but then also at some point it's stressing veeves out because it's like is andrew just being polite does it really like and also i do think that's an interesting idea that like in this watch being not something that you could literally set and forget it was actually causing you to interact with it more it was causing you to be more mindful around it i mean this is a lot of things that we now do that are intentionally a little bit more time consuming i mean you're the king of puttering yeah yeah you're the king of the tuk-tuk sound and puttering and and so like in a way this was almost another version of puttering it's like yeah i just have to remember to do this to the watch but it reminds me that my partner gave me this nice thing it's a

handsome looking timepiece it's okay exactly and i and i really did enjoy the whole thing i enjoyed the story i enjoyed boring people with that version of it that i just told you um but eventually it did just finally break and then i think it was maybe this last christmas genevieve just got me like kind of a proper it's still an analog watch oh god swatches are cool man i wish i could find i can't remember it in enough detail to google the actual swatch i grew up with but god i do remember it had a band with holes in it you remember how the swatch is a rubber band it was It was like a plastic band and it was gray and it had a bunch of holes in it. But that was probably, you know, potentially a secondary market thing. I can't remember what the face of the watch looked like. Anyway, right now, Genevieve did end up getting me a watch because she wanted me to stop fucking around with that other one. So I have like a nice but modern watch that runs on battery. So all of that is to say, I have no idea how this thing got to be eight minutes fast. I must have just like bumped it, you know, like the pin must have come out and I bumped it in some weird way. um but again it was this moment where i was like well this day has been great like you know keep it early keep this thing running early but i was like no i it's like having eaten the apple in the garden of eden i was i was cursed with knowledge right but for somehow because i have a goldfish

brain now i continually forget that that particular computer is ahead the reason is because i'm looking at almost the exact same display right now on this computer this is also a Macintosh product and it is the time is correct um and the time is correct on my phone and uh I'm trying to think my my watch my Apple watch is correct and they all kind of look the same same interface so I forget that I'm looking at the one version of this that's wrong because there are many other versions of it that are correct and they even put the like I said where I see the time on my iPhone And it's reminiscent of how the time is displayed in the upper corner of this laptop and so it has this effect of and it also just has the air of believability it's not a family heirloom watch that i lovingly hand wind each morning it's digital and it's talking to the cloud and so it has this believability to it that is actually working great for me because i look at it and i think oh god okay i gotta and it's it's actually less i'm tbtl is is really never something that And then I'm like, oh, God, we have to get started. I look forward to these conversations with you. Certainly live wire sometimes when we have to record interstitials or other gigs that I have. I'm like, oh, is that right now? Is that happening right now? And then I realize that's happening in eight minutes. And I know exactly what you're talking about. It's just such a massive relief.

And not to throw you under the proverbial bus here, but it also would behoove you. Like, I am somebody who gets someplace very early. Like I realize I'm trying I'm trying to work on this a little bit. Like I have to stop assuming it takes a half hour to get to everywhere because I always just block off a half hour travel time. It's like you're going next door to feed the cat like that's not a half hour trip of travel there. But I just sort of think in blocks like that or maybe 15 minutes maybe. And so because of that, because I hate the feeling like I like you might think I'm trying to say, hey, I'm always on time and you're always late and I'm a better person. I don't think that's true. Like, I think that I might be slightly compulsive about being places, if not early, certainly not late, because I hate the feeling. I hate the feeling of being in traffic, watching the clock tick ever closer to whatever the deadline might be. I just I hate shuffling in line at the TSA thinking, oh, good. I'm glad I was able to watch the last 15 minutes of Murder, She Wrote, the Hallmark Channel.

Who did she murder this week? what a different show that would be if it was always jessica jessica what's her name jessica fletcher like yeah that would be it that would be a really different program yeah if it was it was if it was like there's these unsolved murders all over cabot cove well that is there is something she's writing about them it's like well there's one constant here it's jessica fletcher yeah they

had to put her on the road in a lot of shows because a lot of murders were happening in cabot cove but um anyway uh i am somebody who hates the feeling of being late or rushed oh i think i was gonna say like that that i did the idea of being trapped in a tsa line saying like why didn't i just get here 15 minutes earlier because i don't want this this pressure on me which i'm sure feels exaggerated to me having said that you are somebody who always assumes the other side like whatever we got time like whatever well the the plane already took off luke yeah time optimist You're a time optimist, as we say.

Well, I think you're more than a time realist. And that's what's kind of interesting about us is that I am, I mean, time optimist is being very generous to what my move is, which is often not leaving enough time for things and overscheduling and thinking, we could do this, this, and then I can get to that. And then when I land, we could do this. And thankfully, you're really great about being flexible and helping accommodate a lot of those decisions I make that are kind of not really maybe realistic. but then your vibe and i'm not saying this to be critical at all i just know this working with you is to definitely err on the side of caution so if there's if there's something that's happening at a certain time and my sense of your your thought process is if if me trying to squeeze these two things in is going to create that feeling of of agita for me you're not going to do that you're good and that's where the buffer days come in and that's where and that's just how you operate in the world and i think that that's a good thing and i think also it's a good it ends up making it so this show is doable if we were both like me there this would be a disaster i guess we could do it if we were both like you um i guess that wouldn't really be a problem we just the show would just be a lot less chaotic i guess but like you're definitely you and i could not be more the opposite sides of this coin of how we regard time i think yeah you know if you don't mind me breaking

the space-time continuum a little bit here i'm a little bit bummed about the way i planned this week um because i you know we're pre-recording this show i hope it's old andrew breaking the space-time continuum that's right i break all the rules including the rules of space and time um i'm the bad boy of space and time just like elvis mitchell anyway um i'm a little bit bummed because tonight as we record this i am going to a concert that i got the tickets for during the tbtl-a-thon actually a friend texted me uh this summer when you and me and john were at the what i'm referring to as the polsbo house uh doing the doing broadcast from your from your parents basement and um do you remember a friend texted me and said hey the breeders and um and belly those are two of my favorite bands from the 90s are on tour you should get tickets so i bought tickets.

Well, tonight, as we record this, is the night of the show, and I'm very, you know, I was very excited about this, except because of various factors, I had to kind of plan this trip for Cleveland starting tomorrow, tomorrow morning. So, and this week leading up to it has been really busy because we had to pre-record a bunch of TBTLs. I had to pre-record a, after these messages with Genevieve, along with the regular after these messages. Everything is just like, you know, my entire week has been sort of crumpled into just a few days. And I'm already feeling I'm really trying my darndest to put myself in an attitude of go to this show tonight and enjoy it. But I'm already like, I don't I haven't packed anything yet. I need to pack for this thing. I need to try to get these TBTLs scheduled and posted. And it just sort of feels like I'm not going to really, truly enjoy. Like I'm doing this Breeders Belly show because I bought the tickets and I sort of have to. But honestly, if I already had this Ohio trip on the books, I probably wouldn't have bought the tickets because it just sort of seems like something that is getting in the way. I would much more rather tonight just be able to turn on turn on Jessica Fletcher, open up my away travel suitcase and slowly pack my bags and relax. Thank you to future sponsor away luggage. Once and future sponsor Away Luggage, as opposed to me getting done with this recording with you, getting a bunch of work done, trying to get as much of the newsletter done as possible, pack my bags, get everything hopefully set up for Cleveland, then go see this show, probably get back kind of late, probably not sleep well tonight, and then have to get up at 7 o'clock tomorrow to head to the airport. So I'm trying to, I don't know, I've been looking forward to this show for so long, and now it feels like an impedance, and I'm trying to get myself out of that mindset.

I know that feeling of agreeing to do something or even, you know, actively doing, planning to do something. And then, in fact, I don't know if this is just the age we're at, if this is just what 2023 feels like, or this is being 47 or what. I can rarely think of something I agreed to do that I'm happy about when it's time to do it. I mean, totally seriously. And then I have a great time. Perfect example was somebody got Becca and me, and I think that's her family agreed, Hey, we're going to go see the I Love the 90s, you know, the 90s revival show that's coming to the State Fair. And I mentioned on the show that we went to it, and it actually, I found the music of Vanilla Ice to be oddly competent. It's not for me, but it was, like, he's more musical than I expected. And also he had a full-size Ninja Turtle on stage, which was actually quite something to behold. And this weird, seemingly Japanese guy just walking around blasting glitter on people. anyway I remember the day of that arriving and it was like a it was like a weirdly still in like probably September maybe like a kind of weirdly rainy day even though it's still kind of late summer and I you know I don't live anywhere near Salem anymore so it's like I gotta drive down to town and then get in a car and then and I just was thinking this is the last thing I really feel like doing right now and by the way that's how I feel about almost everything that's not sitting on my couch watching All In with Chris Hayes drinking white wine other than that there's almost nothing that when it's time for me to do it I just never feel like yes this is the thing and then when I tell you I had the most fun night of my life at that weird-ass concert like it was a blast I was so glad to be there even though a mom mean mugged me for standing in front of her children anyway all that is to say I know that feeling I have a I also have a feeling that when you're there hearing the music you will be really engaged and you'll be enjoying it but i know exactly what you're saying can you write the newsletter on the airplane so take yeah i'm gonna be doing some of

that and like i mentioned to you on yesterday's show that i'm probably gonna keep it kind of simple and maybe track down those larama shows that we did or those australia shows and just offer links and i've already done the hey dummies video from a graveyard by the way so um i feel good about the hey dummies video and yeah i mean listen i i didn't mean to say that like to come off as as a martyr but i like that we have the flexibility of this job and everything but it just it just right now it's it's just feeling like kind of stressful and i would and then again like sort of with this show that i've been looking forward to i think the key thing here is um when we wrap up here me allowing myself enough time to try to get at least mostly packed i think that will be a huge mental break for me if i know that okay well at least after the show even if i come back and i'm a little bit wound up and i don't sleep all that well today or tonight i don't have to like come back and like pack my bag yes late tonight to get ready to because i hate waking up in the morning you know that about me and i know that waking up at 6 30 or 7 is just like that isn't even that isn't even early for a lot of people at all but dare i ask what time your

flight is it's at noon really no uh but it is you know it is different strokes for different it is

just as ridiculous. though i believe it is it's like 9 45 i think or 10 o'clock i don't think seven for 9 45 is not craziness to me because here's my thought process if it's around 10 which i think it is if my flight takes off around 10 if i leave the house at 7 a.m there shouldn't be too bad of traffic right genevieve's going to give me a ride to the airport which is huge that saves a lot of time public transportation would like double if if not more than double that that time um so i think oh you know i'm at the airport by or if we leave here at 7 30 i'm at the airport by eight that's plenty of

time right eight for 9 45 totally yes no hour 45 minutes are solid do you have pre-check no i i

should do that i haven't you know i was close to doing that and then the pandemic hit and i don't really is this my third or maybe fourth time of flying since things have opened up i really don't

fly all that much they've definitely made it easier actually but this is not something you would do but like really the move now is to do clear clear is a little more expensive but what but when tsa pre-check fails i have to say clear has saved my bacon a few times because sometimes even the pre-check line can be crazy but clear is this other thing which again we've talked about on the show it's just monetizing it's basically making the real line worse so you have more incentive to pay this extra fee to go around the real line which is only as bad as it is because there's this other basically two-tiered system all i was going to say though is um you should definitely be and you're not checking a bag either so you're you're you're good to go at eight eight for 945 i think you'll be but again i i i hope i didn't sound judgy when i was saying that you're the other extreme because i i do sort of admire your just like i talk about this sometimes on the show how like you you just have you have better boundaries than i do like you kind of know what you're up for and what you're not up for or what feels right or doesn't feel right and you just kind of go these are the boundaries now you're within those boundaries like super helpful you care about people you'll bend over backwards for folks but you just like there's just stuff i know is a hard no for you and i don't know if there's anything that's a hard no for me but that means i end up doing a lot of that i'm either resentful about or i like do a bad job at it or i'm miserable because i don't have good boundaries and if that makes me sound like i'm just say yes to everyone that's not what i'm trying to say either Like I need a little more dose of the fact that you're doing the math of like is the last 15 minutes of this murder She wrote worth the anxiety I will feel because don't think that I don't feel anxious when I'm getting to the airport late like that's the thing I'm I have all of those feelings and they sometimes come out in not great ways like I was in line at I mean I've had TSA people talk sort of sternly to me before because I'm complaining so much in the line Like, why is this taking so long? Aren't there, you know, can we get some more people helping? You know, like, I feel all of the anxiety that I've, as somebody once said, well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions, like, I totally get all of that agita. I just guess I don't learn anything from it.

I'm thinking about an airport experience I had. I am somebody who, even though I don't fly a lot, I do kind of pride myself. Well, this has nothing to do with flying. This has to do with the fact that I'm somebody who really does not want to hold up a line, any kind of a line. I want to follow the rules, but I also want people behind me in any line to know that I'm not just like a perfect example of this is filling our tank up at those Costco gas pumps. I don't know if you've ever experienced this before.

I don't think I have used them before. Is it a way better deal?

You save, I think it's like a buck a gallon or something. Oh, that's significant. Which, you know, isn't nothing, you know. No, not at all. You know, it depends on a lot of factors, but let's just say it's about that. And Genevieve encourages us to try to fill up the tank when possible at the Costco. So but the thing is, it's different than just a regular gas station because there's always a line. Right. It always makes me think of those. Even though it's not a dire situation, it reminds me of those scenes you'll see from the 70s during the oil crisis. Right. Like you show up at Costco and there's long lines of cars waiting to fill up. And it's just because it's not because of any scarcity. It's just because of the prices, and that's the Costco routine for a lot of people. I'm not into that shit. I hate going to Costco so much. That's something that I need to figure out. Do you think Costco is going to be a sponsor of TBTL at any point in the future? Because I need to figure out how much I want to talk about, how much I hate going there. But I'll be in this line with maybe like four cars in front of me, and I will just watch people get out of their car without a care in the world and just mosey on over to the pump open the thing up throw the pump into you know like throw the nozzle into the car and like i'm just like how are you coming at this with this energy you've been in your car waiting for the people in front of you don't you at least want to see some goddamn hustle luke you should see me at a costco gas pump man i am out of the car i get i get into position i am hopping out of that car i am it's the lightest on my feet you'll ever see me i already have my costco credit card in my shirt pocket i'm whipping that out i am like i feel like the entire world is watching me and applauding the quickness and the respect that i am showing the people in line behind me so all of that is to say when i was at um when i was flying recently and i was in some kind of kind of a long tsa line but i'd gotten there in plenty it was the perfect example genevieve was teasing me about how early i got to the airport that day and i'm really glad i did because it was around a holiday and it was pretty jam-packed and um i am you know like i my shoes are off like you know before they need to be they're certainly untied like i'm ready to like hit the beginning of that TSA line throw my laptop down in there like I know the routine I'm not going to hold up the line and but I'm also not the type of person who's vocally harassing people in front of us who are slow and there was some hold up in front of us and then like somebody I think who used a wheelchair kind of like an older person was in there and that definitely held up the line and there was this incredibly boorish woman behind me who I will not mention where I was flying to but I will just say that she embodied the location i was flying to in a way like i do that and i don't know if that's a common thing in airports but when you're flying to a certain part of the country and you look at certain people you're like oh i know if you're coming or going i know i know where you live and this woman definitely represented that and she was behind me and i could tell i could

feel her getting more and more fidgety and she was there with a man i presume to be her husband and then at some point she starts saying come on let's go go go and i'm just like okay how is this gonna work and i can feel her starting to almost push in front of me a little bit and i'm like no i can make myself big here so you know i kind of puff out i make my tail nice and big um and i she does not cut in front of me at the at the um conveyor belt thing but i throw all my stuff in and i'm pretty quick about it she's behind me but she's already starting to show she's already shown herself vocally to be kind of a jerk and again the word borish really comes to mind with this woman now here's the deal luke and this is i think i think you'll be with me on this and i think you will be rightfully pissed one of the rules a stated rule at the tsa line is yes try to do everything as efficiently as possible get your stuff into those buckets that then will go on the conveyor belt but it is your responsibility to make sure that your belongings get onto the rubber moving part of the conveyor belt you are not supposed to leave your shit in those trays on like the silver rollers nope this so i do everything right this woman was never actively yelling at me but she was yelling at the kind of like grumbling about the people in front of us i am waiting all my stuff is in the bins i'm waiting to get it to the rubber part of the belt she leaves her shit on the on the rollers behind me and then cuts in front of me to go through the

backscanner thing and i made some sort of you going through different so she was gonna do backscatter and were you gonna do the other one no no we're like i don't usually have a choice

she's literally cutting right into the one just kind of like she leaves her shit behind her and then moves over to like go through the backscatter thing before me i get my supplies or i get my you know my stuff onto the uh onto the conveyor belt and then i think i went and i think i kind of casually walked in front of her and she walked around me and and went through like so in other words she was like silently um sort of like you know making the decision that she was going to cut in front of me too she must have been thinking I was a fool for waiting there at the conveyor belt when I was following the goddamn rules uh her and it didn't even matter because her husband got in behind me so she basically cut in front of me and she knew it like she made a move she made a football move she made a football move to actively cut in front of me and she gave me a look so it was a look it was a catch in college that would have been a touchdown um anyway and it was just like and it pissed me off because her husband's behind me anyway i'm like what the hell are you doing like you guys are traveling as a couple clearly what gate do you think they ended up at wow so they were literally going to your they were going to they were on my flight luckily i did not sit

near them this is what i'm so confused by so this woman's boorish rude behavior was not because they were about to miss their flight it's because she's a deeply impatient because if if they're going to the same flight that you're going to we've established it's well before the flight leaves it yeah that's just a personality disturbance like i i want to clarify uh a couple of things one in my sort of more tetchy moments i'm never i've never been mad at or said something to a person who's trying to go

through because I know for one thing a lot of people don't fly a lot and it's stressful so they're just trying to figure it out my overriding read on people going through the TSA is everyone is trying to do their best not that woman that you're talking about but generally speaking people are they're either they're either road warriors who fly all the time and they just know exactly what to do or they're people that don't fly a lot and you can tell they're really trying to do everything right so I don't I'm never mad at the people sometimes I'll be annoyed when the TSA seems like they're just like they're swapping out people but then no one comes over to replace the other person or they they flag your bag but then no one comes over to like wand it for you or whatever my i want to be clear that i'm i would never do what this woman did about like hurry up everybody i hate that second of all if you are about to miss your flight like i've let people cut in front of me all the time like they're like i'm so sorry i'm about to miss my flight i'm like go for it whatever if i have time this woman sounds even more deranged than i thought at first i thought they were about to miss their flight which doesn't justify any of her behavior but it at least i understand getting tense she just doesn't ever like being behind anyone can you imagine trying

to live a life with that person yeah no i thought about that because i'll tell you what like we got to the gate and again the point of the story maybe or what made me think of it was it was one of those days where i was like actively thinking in line i am so glad that i got here early it was like i think a mid-morning flight it wasn't especially early it wasn't especially late but i was like I didn't have to get here this early, but I would be, if it was 15 minutes later, I'd be anxious here. Maybe I wouldn't need to be, but I know myself that I'd be anxious. I was like, I left myself a perfect amount of time. I got to the gate. I always like to put eyes on the gate, and then I go to get my snacks. So I had plenty of time to go to the store, get my morning pretzels, which is my favorite breakfast when I'm flying. And I sat at that gate and ate those pretzels and gave her the shot daggers at her for a decent amount of time as we waited for our flight. Nobody was even close to missing their flight.

That's strange to me because I assume the same kind of person who's rude like that is the same kind of person who doesn't plan well, who basically like is about to miss their flight to Hawaii. So they're making it everybody else's problem. that's again that's a deeper kind of emotional illness because everywhere we go in life we're in lines i mean something that we've talked about extensively on this show is and it's as useful a useful reminder for myself it's useful to ask one's self am i actually late for something right now or am i just annoyed you know like as i stand in line behind someone who's taking their sweet time to place their tomatoes on the conveyor belt at the grocery store or whatever it is i just used a very outdated reference because let's be honest none of us have talked to a human at the grocery store since uh the biden administration thanks sleepy joe um i just feel like i'm always doing self-checkout now um what's the point of that anyway is are we like it's useful to ask am i am i actually like late for something or am i just impatient because i'm impatient a lot and that woman man talk about going through life just can you imagine how many

times a day she's pissed yeah i think that she's just like feels like because without being a super classist or regionalist here or whatever you want to call it this was not a she was not like you what do you what do you call them a uh what do you call it the warriors a flight warrior oh sure road warrior road where she wasn't a road where i knew flight warrior wasn't it but anyway this was not like a go-go 80s reagan businesswoman right who is like constantly making deals and

talking into her giant cell phone

yeah right exactly like I don't know this woman's life I have a feeling she was going home to I had a feeling that she was not a Seattleite going on vacation but somebody returning to this place and again I just can't explain it just like kind of like it just was I don't know just I found her to be I found her to be very very annoying with her body language and everything

for the plane to crash if it takes you out but it also takes her out Good Lord, no. That's not. Good. That's the right answer. That's a test and you passed it.

That went super dark, super fast. Thank you, baby.

Hey, let's thank some donors who are keeping TBTL going. This is listener-supported podcaster-y. We have not, we've yet to land that Costco account. And I think it's because when Andrew says things like, I can't tell you how much I hate that place.

Yeah, it's going to be tough when I'm telling listeners that this show is brought to you by Costco, the greatest shopping experience you can possibly imagine.

I'll do those ads because I love Costco. In fact, you know what? I'll have a report on Monday's show, Andrew. I'm taking a Dyson vacuum back to Costco. Oh. Because it had this weird, it's like, you know, it's the Dyson, like, animal or whatever, the kind of cordless one, which I love. This one has a...

glitch where it's the battery is full it's all charged and then i'm using it and then it'll just stop and it'll show me that there's like the battery's dead and then i'll go the battery's not dead and then i'll try the trigger again then it'll kick back on yeah some short there's some little issue but of course i don't probably have the receipt i have the card i bought it on i have becca's card is how we got into that costco so i will give you a full report on returning a vacuum to costco on monday and i will happily read the ads if they want to support us and you know what

Let me clarify something here. This is, by the way, going to make it worse. Luke, as my business partner, prepare for that. I don't hate Costco the business. I don't hate the people who work there. In fact, customer service seems amazing there. The people that work there have very hard jobs, and they just keep things moving. They're always helpful. They're always friendly. I remember the woman who took my photo for my special Costco ID was a delight. I don't hate the company at all. I should retract that. having said that i am not fans of the people who clog the aisles the experience of being in there like if if we do ads for costco advertising itself as a place where scientists can research human beings with a total lack of situational awareness or care for the people around them Costco is the place to do that. I will 100% do those ads because I just do not understand how you can be just like walking along and then just stop short with a million people right behind you because you just want to get the dinosaur-shaped chicken nuggets for the next two years that you just happen to see. The people there have no idea. Don't you make this about tendies. Dino tendies.

I'm a good boy. Can you tell I'm hungry? Whenever we record a couple shows in a row, at some point it always turns into dino-tendies, doesn't it?

It always turns into dino-tendies.

I think that what you're expressing is that you dislike Costco the way that you dislike the airport. It's not that you dislike visiting the people you love, or even airplanes per se, it's that it creates many, many, many opportunities for other people to let you down. It's just amazing. With their behaviors. It's just amazing. Alright, you know who would never let us down is Kathleen Aiken of Port Orchard, Washington.

Kathleen, I saw you at Costco and you were killing it.

You saw my mom and dad eating the Impossible Glizzy. Forget what the name is for when you put the Costco hot dog into the chicken bake. I think it's called the lake. It's not the Impossible Glizzy because that sounds like it's a fake meat. No, it's real. Oh, it's real, baby. But anyway, my parents are probably there right now eating a Costco hot dog Saying hello to Kathleen Aiken Hey Kathleen Ryan Johnson's in Arlington, Washington Thank you, Ryan Yeah, Arlington, Washington up there near abouts where I used to live In the Bay City of Bellingham, Washington At least on the way I think I've been to What is that? There was a bar that me and Camaro Kev used to go to That was just spitting distance from Arlington I guess it was in Smoky Point, technically But anyway, Ryan, thank you. Thanks to Rob Runblad, who's in Seoul, South Korea. Nice.

South Korea got Seoul.

Camaro, Kevin, I never got anywhere near Seoul, South Korea, but I would love to go sometime. It looks incredible in photos and internet and watching, you know, Anthony Bourdain there, things like that. And the fact that Rob lives there now, that's another huge enticement.

Now, has Rob invited you to lunch? Because yesterday we were talking about how some listeners have not invited you to lunch.

Rob, can I, if I'm popping through Seoul, can you take me out for some of the sights and sounds of Seoul, South Korea? I'd love that. Gretchen Hayslip is in Seattle, Washington. Now, I feel like I know the sights and sounds of Seattle, but Gretchen, I'm just not ruling it out. Maybe we'll, is, uh... Have you been to the new Space Needle restaurant since they reopened? uh no i haven't but didn't bethany jean clement write a review of it

she wrote a classic review of the original restaurant so they've they've they've they've

fixed it up now they've they've tricked it out that's my understanding i don't know if she's

revisited it or not um but i do think that one of her more famous pieces was like actually like kind of taking and and rightfully so and needing to be done because it's really it was really

expensive yeah for a very regular kind of food that you could have gotten i mean you're paying to be in the sky and to rotate so that's not you know nothing but um no i have not been to the new one i have i've been to the new space needle like the glass floor thing i haven't been up there

since all the renovations and everything i don't i remember being very nervous up there that i was my parents were visiting i was there with them and genevieve and i remember going up the elevator being kind of nervous but fine and then looking out again you're all glassed in they didn't have they they didn't ask me to change the flag atop the needle or anything but i remember just getting as you described the fear and it was not drug induced and suddenly once i got that fear in me i had to go like to the center of the needle where the gift shop was and nowhere near the glass anymore i just what like i'll be fine fine fine and then the idea just nests its way into my brain that i'm that i'm not okay and i get real panicky

And that was also, that was before they had the glass floor, right? Yeah, that was just looking through the glass panes, which I believe they had some air letting, was it like? Yes, when you go out on the observation deck. Yeah, yeah. But don't, I'm just saying, I don't think you, I don't think that glass is for you in the floor. Oh, God, no. Because it had me, it had me tripping.

I'm having a physical reaction in my body to you saying that right now. I won't go into any more detail than that.

What does your physical body do when I read the name Jesse Irvin Ceramic of Gresham, Oregon? it it becomes overflowing with gratitude that's exactly the right feeling i got nervous when you said the word overflowing then i got felt good again when it was the word gratitude came right after it thank you jesse uh there in gresham a place that i now know where it is at some point the fact that i've lived in either the portland or close to the portland area for a decade it will no longer be impressive that i can point out the obvious neighborhoods and areas surrounding portland oregon but i do now know where gresham is uh i don't know if i know where laverne california is i know that jennifer brooks is there though it's near shirley bet you i'm the first one to make that joke probably so jennifer thank you thanks to all of our donors for supporting tbtl we could not do this without you hello and welcome to top story all right we'll have to move somewhat expeditiously here you've got a breeder's concert to get to and not enjoy i am gonna enjoy it i just had an idea

do you remember the concept of i know you said we got to breeze through this do you remember the concept of stop making sense the talking heads the talking heads movie um i don't know if i

remember the concept of it's a i remember i remember it's a concert film directed by jonathan

demi but what's the bit it's it all takes place on stage there's no like behind the scenes or anything but the bit is that it he's they build the set around him basically it starts with him coming out he does a solo number um i well it doesn't matter what it was and then then the bass player tina comes out and then slowly the other band members come out while they build the set around them and the concert sort of grow it's it's just stunning i just flip and love that movie um but uh and then at one point he gets the zoomies and just starts running around the stage That's my favorite part. Genevieve turned to me. She said, David has the zoomies. All of that is to say, I was wondering if I should do the opposite of that. I have to pack up this equipment so that I can do some shows from Cleveland. I was wondering, could this be the opposite of stop making sense where I start taking apart my studio during the show? I think that will probably lead to issues, though.

How much of it can you take apart before our line disconnects?

I don't think any of it. I think I pull one plug, the whole thing goes down. So I need to just sit on my hands here. Okay, well, I'll try not to belabor this too much. You're fine. No, you're fine. No, I'm fine.

I did see this article this week in the Times, the New York Times, about basically the argument against raking your leaves, or at least the question of, like, are we doing the best for the soil and Mother Nature by obsessively, by seeing almost uh raking your leaves off of your lawn as some sort of moral kind of statement and in the piece one of the things that they mentioned which i had literally never thought of is that the richest healthiest soil is where it's in the forest why because nobody's raking the forest particularly if you're talking about like a deciduous forest so trees that lose their leaves and you know that's full of all kinds of carbon and nutrition and then there are these insects and snakes and mice and there's a whole panoply of life that lives because of the leaves doing their thing as they uh kind of decompose into the ground and so the question is should we should we all be so obsessed with raking our lawns all the time because it's actually you know much better for the soil and the land if we leave our leaves alone what do you think about that yeah no i i find all

this really fascinating because i love the kind of i think i'm a little bit late late to this in life but like i kind of like the thinking about the the cyclical nature of these things of course i mentioned to you that um recently we became the proud owners of one of those loamy composting devices that was gifted to us which is amazing i love this thing so much you know vives and i had always or not always but for the past probably decade or so uh been the type of folks who have a compost bin, you know, like.

like in our kitchen. And then we'd either use municipal composting services or, you know, our own like kind of outdoor compost bin thing. And I love this thing, but it really, it makes me think about the process of life and about how one thing feeds the other. And I think this, this leave thing is right up my alley. That's how I feel now with the main or the major caveat, I think that municipalities do tell people, please rake your leaves around any kind of gutter system or anything we don't want that's why starting this week i believe for a few weeks there's going to be free yard waste pickup in seattle usually they charge for extra bags but they want to encourage people to rake leaves so that they don't end up getting clogs in various you know sewer systems and whatnot so i guess you got to look out for that but the idea of having leaves just become dirt again back into nature like we have a pile of um leaves and brambles that we keep in the the deep recess corner of our yard and that just like by next summer the bottom of that will be some of the richest like life-giving soil you can possibly imagine we underneath our compost like kind of roller bin outside i don't even know how this is possible the the the the lawn and like soil underneath it is the richest shit i've ever seen in my life and it's not like we're missing you know i'm not throwing like eggshells and coffee grounds directly on the ground underneath our compost thing i don't know what it is if it's like if there's a slow seep or whatever it is but like i'm assuming this is what they mean when they say loam like underneath in this like in this like i don't know four foot area or less directly underneath our compost bin outside is some of the most rich beautiful grass and soil you'll ever see and i just i i'm fascinated by that i love it so much it gives me life well andrew i have you know

been kind of trying to figure out what my approach to composting will be when actually my new kitchen is all put together and i saw something and i was i was saying i don't think that that particular machinery that you're talking about is for me because i don't have a lot of space in this kitchen and, and, uh, I'm also on a bunch of land where I could just have one of those countertop things and take it outside. But that was before I saw some kind of crazy ass product called the Sepura. And it is, I'm sure ludicrously expensive, but it's basically like, um, it's a, a sort of, um, a disposal that you, so you hook it up. Like you got to get like either yourself or a competent plumber to hook this whole thing up. I'm actually going to send you some pictures. I'm looking at it now.

I'm on the website. It's interactive. It's interesting.

Actually, it's a pretty good design, the website, I have to say. And basically what it appears to do is you put all the stuff in like it's a garbage disposal, but it somehow separates out the large pieces of food and puts them in some kind of very sealed composting bucket. And then it incinerates or macerates or gets rid of the much smaller stuff. and one of the sales pitches on this is if you have a septic tank like i do you're not sending so much material to the septic tank and you just then like you would be you mean if you had a garbage disposal if i had it because i definitely miss having a garbage disposal like i like that feature um and i had it in my apartment building and stuff and there's differing schools of thought about if you should have a garbage disposal when you're on septic one because i don't know if it could gunk it up and two because it's just more material you know when the thing fills up you got to have it pumped out but this one is arguing that like it does it only lets the smallest little particles of things into the septic so you can basically like dump your food into this thing and then you've got this compost bucket that's ready to go i but it's now this is interesting

when you first started describing this when you say compost bucket ready to go i thought that it was going to do the final step which was low me the shit underneath there and turn it into actual compost but no you end up just with a bucket full of food scraps like you like you do end up with

that yeah okay and then you would understand that outside do you realize that i can buy it from 67 a month with apple pay andrew i mean that's one banana 67 a month oh for 11 000 months okay well that's what do you think the chances of me acquiring this are i would say in on the

order of 100 really i am surprised that you're so into this because you're going to end up with something that i don't think you're going to like which is a a bucket of food like if you ended up with a buck so after we were gifted this loamy machine which like within the course of depending on the setting between five and 16 hours literally turns your food scraps into dirt and boy i never really gave you an update on my first batch was a little bit um it came out a little bit like mud because they had recommended adding a little bit of water to it. But then I stopped adding water and I stopped using the enzyme tabs. I just like put my food.

in there a lot of it is vegetable scraps so it has plenty of moisture i it comes out fluffy it comes out like fluffy nice smelling dirt i eat the dirt um and so now i have a bucket outside my door that i just kind of keep emptying this into of this really nice dirt luke talk about i bought um a a nice little like small handheld pitchfork to keep it stirred and i think it would be right up your alley if nothing else this the the uh excuse to buy this little handheld pitchfork that i think you would like but anyway um i've been meaning to pose for american gothic it's it's uh i'll send you a picture maybe i'll make it the show pic i love my little pitchfork it just came yesterday i'm still pretty psyched about it but anyway um so i could see oh ever since i got this loamy thing i've been getting a lot of targeted ads towards similar products that are like if you like this small version why not turn your entire garbage can in your kitchen into a compost making machine so apparently other other companies have sort of are trying to bite lomi's rhyme a little bit i could see you being into that i don't see you as somebody enjoying going under your sink and pulling out this thing where various food has been plunked in there by a machine if nothing else like i honestly think just like taking your own eggshells and just putting them in a bin on the counter under the counter would be less gross than opening this thing at the end of the

week or whatever well i'm already kind of doing this with the kitty litter which is that litter robot thing basically scoops it for you all week and then you got to get a big old heap and helping of gross stuff once a week so this is kind of that same principle although i'm looking more into it and it's not it doesn't look like it's actually an incinerator it's a separator yeah so basically yeah it doesn't have any because i'm looking at the actual parts that they send you and i'm like now it's making more sense that it's a mere 700 or 800 bucks because i thought it was a whole garbage disposal it's really just a and i have a feeling i mean of course it has good reviews but those are the good reviews that the company is putting on the website this feels like it might be a little close to do you remember when i bought that thing called smart nora that was supposed to hear my snoring at night and then inflate my pillow so that i would stop snoring about that yeah it was a complete flop because you know it's like probably now there's something like that that actually works pretty well between ai and how much better you know phones are at recognizing shit but like it was the kind of thing that was maybe a cool idea but it was still a long way away from them really kind of perfect perfecting it and as i'm looking at all the parts for this and what i would need to actually do to kind of put it in and everything it feels like the kind of thing that in principle is a cool idea but that i might want to wait for the like you know the the third generation of this thing before i actually start monkeying around under my sink

I enjoy you trying new technologies and reporting back, but as somebody who just has a lot more experience of separating food scraps out and entering some sort of composting relationship with them, this does not seem appealing to me. Like, at least if you've taken your like you've cut up a pineapple and you've cut the ends off and, you know, you've pitted it and everything. And you've thrown that and you've thrown those scraps into your little compost bucket on the counter. And then, you know, the next day or that evening or whatever, you take it outside and you dump it like it. It's smaller. And like the fact that this is a bigger bucket and all you're doing is having a machine kind of crush, but not fully crush and not compost your food waste. I think you're going to be really put off by having to open up this bucket at the end of the day. Like, because food, like, not recycling, but composting food should not be as disgusting as emptying a cat device, a cat litter device. It's not shit.

Right. Exactly. That's a good point. I will probably hold off on this. I still might look into the, see if there's some, somebody is pitching a garbage disposal that chops things up so finely that you can use it with a septic. I don't know.

Or, I mean, the ideal here would be this system, but it teams up with the Lomi technology. Right. So it separates it out, and then you never even open up that lid to see the grossness inside. You flip a switch, and then it turns into dirt. Then you take it out from under your sink, and it's like, and again, this dirt that Lomi produces is not gross at all. It's weirdly kind of nice smelling, depending on what you've been grinding up.

Somebody must have already figured that out, right? I feel like these are two different. Yeah, because this seems gross to me. somebody's got peanut butter in that chocolate or chocolate in that peanut butter if you will um the other thing that i'm going to be doing um as this is airing on friday andrew i am probably in in my yard trying to figure out how to start up a rototiller because i am in full landscaping mode uh it's supposed to be the weather on this friday is is nice supposedly they're saying because we're recording this a little bit early but it's going to be a sunny day and I have this whole

raised garden bed already that's just totally overgrown so first I have to weed whack it down then I have to mow it and then I have to get it you know get it down to where it's much short like hand mow it and then rototill it and try to get out the roots of the grass and then I think probably for now just put down like cardboard or canvas just so like nothing else will happen there for a while and then I've also got this area that I'm actually looking at right now that's kind of a little section of dirt that's outside of like the bathroom window and the entryway of the house has a japanese maple in it and it's got a bunch of grass it's overgrown i'm going to get that all cleared out and i guess put down some kind of bark or mulch the thing is i heard this piece this week on npr talking about believe it or not bark being a fire hazard they were saying it was this demonstration in california where there's a lot of wildfire obviously saying look no one should have anything flammable within five feet of their house the only thing that should be up against the side of your house is a walkway and that if you do that if you just don't have anything burnable within five feet of your house you reduce the chance of your house burning down by like a ridiculous factor it's such a small thing but it makes a huge difference and it has me wondering now i know i don't live in like lake tahoe or something but wildfire is crazy now like it's not it is i live on a hill full of grass where my neighbor brian is rightfully pretty nervous about a spark happening you know like this doesn't see i used to think of wildfires being something that only happened deep in the woods and then like a couple of summers ago i end up walking around talent oregon with like jim belushi of all people and there's just neighborhoods where every other house is just burned to the ground just like a like a neighborhood like you live in where every other house is burned to the ground like in a city you know so i'm like do i need to hard do i need to fire harden and that's not related to stuff do i need to fire harden my like i really think about this a lot of fire hadn't wait what exactly well that's actually something that it's a whole other conversation no um i think about this a lot because in the one on the one hand i'm like i don't live in i live in washington state where it rains all the time and where like even in the summertime it's like i don't think of myself as being in a a fire prone area that being said i live on a big hill on an acre surrounded by in the summertime dry ass grass could you imagine if i got this finally got this house livable and then it burned down like i would just probably go in the house i'd be like take me to lord like this i would be i mean and i'm not trying to be glib because this is what happens when people lose their homes and it's happening increasingly in this country because of climate change and wildfire it's like i really am like thinking do i need to like set up sprinklers on the roof of my house like i've it kind of has me in my head because i've i think mercifully we we had a a very very an unusually unexpectedly mild

fire season this year compared to what it could have been with drought and everything but it's It's like, I don't know, believe it or not, I'm considering removing this Japanese maple on the off chance that it could somehow be a part of the problem if there was a fire raging in my neighborhood.

How did things, I mean, I think I know personally, but I don't know if we talked about it on the show. And obviously, I think we would have heard if your sister's family's home had been consumed by fire. But there was a time this summer where you had talked about on the show that it was a real concern as they watched. The wind shifted. why the wind shifted in their favor you mean to end up saving their house but like as you are building this thing and and that must loom large still with your sister and her family right like what is the what is the conversation around the woods i mean the conversation is that

they have i was when we were over there i don't know a month ago there was this jay had built my brother-in-law had built this like like giant pole that was on this like stand like a big base and at the top of it was like a huge like a industrial sprinkler like that would like water a football field and it had a hose running down from it and one of the things he was going to do if the fire got near their house was he was going to set up a network of these things just running water on every you know on the house and on everything around they have a they have a um a metal roof which is really good that that cuts down on the chances of embers uh they have hardy panel, which is very fire. I mean, they've done everything you can really realistically to, to try to make their, their home, uh, you know, less vulnerable. But I mean, the thing that's really wild and there's this, I forget the name of it now, but there's this fascinating documentary. I interviewed the filmmaker, um, where she looks at a fire that happened in paradise, California and a fire that happened in Malibu, California, these two different fires. And, um, unfortunately the one in paradise, it, it just, it really leveled the place and just destroyed a lot of people's homes and what was interesting

about it was you follow what's happening to the locals there and they have these there it's a it's a fairly politically conservative area it's pretty rural it's a lot of people that are living kind of off not off the grid but off the grid of like believing in the American urban utopian idea and they don't like the government telling them what to do and there are people who have lost their house once or twice and they want to adopt a code a building code in the city or in the county that says no brush within five feet of your house they do this big study and they find that like of all the things you can do that will have a huge impact it's I forget the number but it will it will really make it so that your house is less susceptible and they have it and it costs nothing and they have a city council meeting or a county council meeting and the citizens vote it down they people after losing one or two homes of the fire would still rather be able to plant their shrubbery within five feet of their house rather than do this thing that costs no money and that drastically increases because one of the things you learn is you go for these aerial shots there are houses that survive this and they're mostly the houses where the people were like not planting right up against their house or they had a metal roof or they used a certain you know like we can do things to make our homes i don't know how this on a friday turned into a fire safety lecture from me but we you know we can do this now like you houses do not have to burn down the way that they do in you know out in wildfire prone areas it's because they're not built correctly and because when they build them back people don't want anyone telling them where to put their fucking hedges how do they feel about the vaccines oh hugely positive i'm guessing that there's i'm guessing there's a pretty strong overlap between um you know what those people would really not like the government tony fauci telling the manager what they can and cannot dress up like for halloween oh yeah exactly where sag and after performers and members of the sag after union find themselves here on this the friday before what is effectively the halloween weekend um the uh sag after leadership has sent out at a a form basically saying that um sag after actors are banned from dressing up as popular characters from struck content and then posting those images on social media so if you want to dress up as ken and barbie like i'm going to be ken jennings and becca's going to be barbie from the barbie movie um i was i i mentioned this to our pal ken jennings i said hey just so you know i'm going to be you for halloween and he sent me a photo of him and somebody from the clue crew dressed as as he was going to be ken from the movie and then she was going to be barbie and he goes we got the word that we actually can't do this because it's promoting the movie and my joke to him and by the way i support sag after i support unions i i've supported the writers guild like people should get paid for their work and these big giant mega studios where people a very few people are getting very wealthy i don't think

that they're the uh i don't feel bad for them at all if they have to pay fair wages and fair benefits to people that are really making it possible that being said i said kind of drolly to ken well i can tell you what if nobody dresses if nobody famous dresses up like ken and barbie i I think we can agree that will really tank that movie financially. Yeah, right. Like, that Barbie's out of the bag, my friends. And it looks like even some folks in SAG who are strong supporters of the whole thing are a little bit like, give me a break. Mandy Moore went on Instagram and wrote, come on, SAG-AFTRA, this is what's important. We're asking you to negotiate in good faith on our behalf. So many folks across every aspect of this industry have been sacrificing mightily for months. Get back to the table and get a fair deal so everyone can get back to work. I have a feeling Mandy, who I could, who I am, you know, I wouldn't say texting buddies with, but I, you know, I have texted her on occasion because I did a TV story about her. I have a feeling she wanted to dress up as Barbie. Because this was the, this was the. She wanted to dress up like Oppenheimer. Well, you know what? That's a good point. I'm assuming for a lot of reasons that she would want to be Barbie. Oppenheimer just as likely. The guidelines say, let's see here. The guidelines are just classically like, like you are definitely not getting how this comes off. So this is the flyer that SAG-AFTRA sent out to their members. Halloween 2023, make Halloween a scream with these SAG-AFTRA strike-friendly tips and tricks. If you're looking for guidance on how to celebrate Halloween this year while also staying in solidarity with the TV theatrical streaming strike, you've come to the right place. Don't post photos of costumes inspired by Struck content on social media. Dress up as characters from non-struck content, like an animated TV show. Choose costumes inspired by generalized characters and figures, ghost, zombie, spider, etc. Thanks. So, please enjoy your time as a non-struck content ghost. This, I thought, was the best response. It was from Ryan Reynolds. He went on Twitter.

and said, I look forward to screaming scab at my eight-year-old all night. She's not in the union, but she needs to learn. I love it. Pretty clever. All right, a little music for your weekend as we slide on down that dinosaur, as I like to say, on a Friday. What would you like to play today, Andrew? Well, it's funny.

You know, we brought up Talking Heads, and I have a song here that I've been wanting to play for you from the first Talking Heads record. You know, as much as I love the Talking Heads, I only knew, I only kind of had and kind of really knew a couple of their records, I realized. And I wanted to go back and listen to the first one, Talking Heads 77. And, oh, my God, am I late to the party of this first album? I don't think I know it at all. You know, I do think it has Psycho Killer on it. So, you know, there's always some song that you know on a Talking Heads record. But like just hearing it in its, you know, hearing the talking heads in their earliest form, you know, their earliest published form is really interesting. And it's like it somehow even speaks to the part of me that likes the B-52s and that sort of era with the kind of jangly guitar. And it's just like somehow anyway, it's my point is I'll talk about that next week because I'm going to play for you a song off of that first record. But I did also just mention that I'm going to see the Breeders and Belly is opening for them tonight. I don't even know who I like more. Honestly, I mean, I feel like I might be one of the world's biggest Belly fans. I love Belly so much, and I have seen them live once before. I don't remember the performance. All I remember was being very surprised in high school to see some of the really cool kids also at this Belly concert I was at. And I remember asking one of them, I'm like, or saying to him, I didn't know you were a Belly fan. And their face kind of screwed up. And they're like, we're here to see Super Chunk. I was like, well, I don't know what a Super Chunk is, but I'm here to see Belly. You're not a majesty shredding dude? And then years and years later, well, not years and years, but in college, I had become a very big Super Chunk fan. But at the time, it was just so funny. I was just surprised to see the cool kids at the Belly concert. They were there for the, I guess, arguably cooler band, Super Chunk. But having said all that, I'm going to play for you one of my favorite belly songs off of their second record, which is called King. And this song is called Super Connected. And suffice it to say, I am hoping to hear this live tonight. What was that voice?

window. Your hair full of glass. Throw your clothes in the hallway. Just a sheet on your All back

So you're super connected now All the freaks gather around And the crowd in your bedroom waits For a piece of your personal space

Are there heartstrings connected To the wings you've got down on your back

I guess I gotta stop it now.

That's super connected by Belly. Are you, like, so they're opening for the breeders or are the breeders opening for them?

I believe they're opening for the breeders. I was just texting with my buddy Pauly, who's also going to the show, and hopefully I'll be able to meet up with them there. But Paul let me know that there's no opener besides Belly. Because he's like, oh, we're going to try to get there for the first band. And I said, oh, well, who's the first band? He's like, it's Belly. I'm like, I know it's Belly. But I figured that they'd be. Here, this is good. Sorry, I just love the chorus. I assume that there would be some younger band, a newer band, Kind of like the Beths opening up for Death Cab and Postal. But no, apparently it's just a belly and breeder's affair. Well, that's kind of.

cool too because that means you'll probably get more belly right like you know maybe it's maybe it's one of those this seems to be a big thing these days is to put two really good bands together and then i think let them kind of more or less split the night one maybe a little more the headliner but but that's so i'm glad because it sucks when you love a band and they're opening for someone and you you don't get the full complement of or the full variety of all the

music you're hoping for do you think that is something that is happening more with like

legacy acts like this i don't know if it's fair i think so well i mean yeah i mean i guess i'm thinking of it because obviously death cab and the postal service there's there's other examples that of course i can't call to mind right now but andrew i wanted to actually do a slight do a slight head fake uh which is to say i'm not going to suggest that we play the song that i had put on the on the list for today for my music for your weekend although i will probably play it for you next week great it's uh just it's it's kind of a mood it's um but i've been in a weird mood this week like not in a bad way but like i think like i was listening to uh our show from australia i've been moving i had moved all this audio over which a lot of it was from the earlier days of tbtl and i don't know why this popped into my head but we in the radio days of our show were really into this band called the duchess and the duke were you into them when you first got to

Seattle I remember having a couple Those were the days where I was doing A lot of scouring of mp3 blogs And the what not and I still had like iTunes and I remember having a Few tracks by them in my iTunes But like I didn't I could not tell you an Album or anything along those lines

It kind of makes me and I hope that this hope That you and everyone understand this In the way that I intend it because like I love Doing this show the way it is right now like I don't Think I don't think I would have wanted to Do that radio version of that show for 15 years or something like i love sitting here in my cozy sweater watching boats and talking to my friend andrew but like the show just used to be it was just weird and we just did so much shit when we were at that radio station like we just saw some write-up of the duchess and the duke and the stranger and we thought well that'd be fun to have them on and then we just like called them and i believe that they uh had met there was a a man and a woman i don't know if they were you know professionally if they were privately associated with each other or just were you know a duo in this band but my memories they had met uh they both worked at the same swimming pool cleaning operation and they had like met and they were just like yeah totally and they just like came down and played a bunch of songs one night and i something thinking about the duchess and the duke reminds me of a really sweet time in my life i guess you know i feel like i've also been saying a version of that a lot lately just like had just moved back to seattle doing this weird thing tbtl uh which just is like has all of the upside of being at a radio station and kind of none of the downside like just you know oh yeah we'll just have these people on and like i don't know just it was a lovely time in my life i also really am liking this time in my life too i want to be clear about that but i i have a real fond spot a real soft spot for for the music of the duchess and the duke so i was thinking about it this week could you play the song and i can also play it from here i have it in front of me if if who knows if they're still on things like spotify but the song out of time by the duchess and the duke i think they made they played this song i think on tbtl live um you know some random whatever wednesday night do you have that song

yeah okay but we're playing the the album version you mean they played this on tbtl oh yeah yeah

they also i mean the album version i don't know okay i actually probably have somewhere in this computer maybe even the recording yeah that that would be interesting but okay we'll go with the

album version here it looks like the album was called she's the duchess he's the dude he's the

duke right all right that's how we'll wait that's not how that's how we'll listen to some music from me. We've still got one more thing.

Well, ain't you sick of hearing things are gonna work out? Well, I'm so sick of hearing things are gonna be all right. Well, in the kitchen, there's a Cuban with a pistol. He's got an itchy cheek, a finger sticking in your thigh. Supposed to tighten in this range and he'll miss you. And no one else will, girl, cause you're already dead inside. Well, ain't you sick of hearing things are gonna work out? Well, ain't you sick of hearing things are gonna be all right? It was somebody like Somebody like Somebody like Somebody like All right, we better jump in, because I think the song's over pretty soon. This was also during that period of time where everybody was releasing albums where, like, every song was two minutes and 15 seconds.

This one's a full three, so we're about halfway through, but that's good. I did not know that song. I like that song. Pretty catchy, right? Yeah, definitely, yeah. In fact, looking at the songs here, I'm trying to think, do any of these even look familiar to me? I have no idea what I had, but I just remember, I know it sounds strange, but I just remember seeing that name on the reg in my old iTunes, you know? But that's all I can tell you. None of these songs look particularly familiar to me.

Looks like they're not together anymore. I'm the band, that is. The Duchess and the Duke was a folk band formed in Seattle, Washington by Jesse Lortz and Kimberly Morrison. Well, I was a fan. Thank you for adding that to my life, the Duchess and the Duke. We're going to wrap the week up with a suggestion from listener Karina, who says, I recently went to the Beck and Phoenix Summer Odyssey Tour. Oh, by the way, it took me a while to get to this. Sorry, Karina. Now that I look at it, this wasn't that recently. This would have been back in the summer. Hey, send in your music for your weekend suggestions to me, please. I'm starting to reach back into the back of the cupboard for ones I might have missed when they came in. Just put music for your weekend in the subject line and send it luke at tbtl.net. Karina says, it was an amazing and fun show. Great opening acts by Jenny Lewis and Sir Chloe. I'm surprised you missed that one, Walsh. Yeah, I didn't even know about this.

I will say that the link is interesting. It sends me to a YouTube video that's 15 seconds long that says, channel your inner Beyonce with these shorts from constant varied gear. I'm going to guess I'm going to go to YouTube for this one. This wasn't you searching Beyonce shorts online. No, this was the link that Karina put in.

It's supposed to be for a song that is Beck and Phoenix collaborating called Odyssey. So maybe looking for it that way. Or I can just sing what I think it sounds like. Or we could listen to sing what I've literally never heard it.

What is this woman doing in the gym? Okay, it's a woman in the gym, and she's flipping her hair around. Is this a commercial that's airing before the song? No, I thought so, too. Now she's dancing around in her Beyonce shorts, and that's it. So I don't know, but I'll find the real song.

Okay, so see, now are you able to find? I will be able to.

I can find anything.

That's Andrew for you. All right. Well, that's going to do it for this broadcast week. Thank you so much, everyone, for hanging out with us. Thanks for supporting the program. We really appreciate it. We'll be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you. In the meantime, have a great weekend. Don't wear any of that Struck content if you're a SAG-AFTRA member. Yeah. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

I take my time to find my mind, don't have time Go back to the city, run away for yesterday Those summer days of flowers, waste, I'm on fire Welcome to your life, don't look the other way

Our wheels and fortune run the course across the track If only I could feel the warmth across my back Didn't I treasure most, didn't I wreck the most Then I feel this close Don't look the other way Somewhere Falling to the ocean I'll be there

I'll be there

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