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Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is? It's Friday, Friday Gonna get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend Well my friends are just beside themselves And I'm gonna get to work with the co-bro

Oh god, no please Just co-bro Sure, why not? Jokes, do some Okay, what makes you laugh? Comedy. Obviously. And sometimes tragedy. Light tragedy. Erectile dysfunction. Non-fatal hunting accidents. Waving at someone you think you know, but turned out to be a stranger. That sort of thing.

Go. All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Don't go there. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. You're still doing a pod cart? Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it is still very, very foggy.

A foggy day.

So much so that at about 5 a.m. or so this morning, I was awoken by some huge, I don't know, commercial barge or something blowing its foghorn on the mighty Columbia. I looked out my window and it was like you couldn't see six inches in front of you. And I have to say, as far as things waking me up in the morning before my alarm is actually going off, it wasn't the worst. Felt like I was really living some kind of Nantucket fantasy. So I'll take it. I hope you all are ready for episode 4068 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. um day three of my water diet didn't know you like to get wet though um give you a quick update on how i'm faring there the answer pretty okay actually also jeff bezos has announced that he

is leaving seattle attention everyone i have an announcement to make i am leaving this party

and i have questions about this announcement and a few other things which we will get into Also, we've got an update on, well, actually, I'm going to be honest with you. We are all going to find out together if my meltdown at Costco was justified or if it was absolutely and completely unnecessary to a whole new level that we haven't even talked about yet. We are going to find this out together on the podcast in just a few minutes. We're also going to do some music for your weekend. And we're going to talk to this guy, the longest running co-bro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships He works hard all week And Friday, usually for him, is a pretty busy day But he can smell the weekend coming

All of my requirements are fulfilled So now for this next three minutes I'll just be looking at y'all

He's Andrew Welsh and he's joining me right now Good morning, my friend

Good morning, I really am excited that it's Friday I mean, maybe that's just the most basic thing to say But more than usual, maybe because I was traveling earlier this week and just been kind of getting my ducks in a row. And now here it is Friday. I got a few more responsibilities. The newsletter is mostly ready to go out. We have a video to record later this afternoon. But then once that happens, Luke, dinosaur sliding. Yes, yes. Me. Nothing going on tonight. Nothing on the agenda, my friend. I'm very excited about that. Dartbot, I'm coming. I'm coming to you, Dartbot.

I am in a very different state of mind because we're doing Livewire tomorrow night as part of the Portland Book Festival. Ew.

I mean, not ew to the book festival, but I mean, ew that you have to work.

Ew, David. Yeah, well, it's, you know, usually we do the show on Thursday, but because the Portland Book Festival is a weekend affair there in Portland, that's when we're doing it Saturday night. So it's usually, I would have done Livewire last night and I would just be free and easy this morning, Andrew, but instead I am. I still have, let's just say, I still have a book to read, But luckily, it's by the New Yorker cartoonist Roz Chast.

Oh, I love Roz Chast.

And it's a cartoon book. So I left the easiest one for last. So I'm going to work on that today, get my questions together, et cetera.

Do you know what Roz has been messing around? You can use this, by the way, if you credit me. Do you know what Roz has been messing around?

around with on Instagram. I don't know if you follow Roz on Instagram.

I'll start.

But she'll, you know, she has those very recognizable, if not iconic style drawings that are kind of like a little bit squiggly, a little bit kind of shaky, almost of goofy characters doing and saying goofy things. I don't know if doing and saying goofy things is right. But either way, if you know, you know the Roz Chas style. But what she's been doing on Instagram is taking photographs on the street and then sort of drawing around them. She's been doing this weird combination of including real photographic things and then fleshing it out with her pen. And I'm loving it,

Jerry. Wow, I'm going to ask her about that. I don't even need to read the book now.

I've got my question. You'll have a better you're good with words. That's one thing. I don't know about that. My dad will often say that he'll be, my dad and I are very similar in which we have something we want to say. We kind of get very excited about it. We talk too quickly. we don't come up with words and then he'll often say to me you would have a word for it you know you would have a way of putting it which is always very flattering but the truth is if he listened to this show he would know that i don't have words to describe it i have many many

words you do a great job we just listen we just talk a lot on this show a lot a lot and so for both of us there are going to be some points where we just cannot for whatever reason summon the word

Let me just get this out of my system. I had a cringe moment on the show yesterday that I can't flip and shake. What did I say? I was trying to say enshrined in the Constitution, but I was trying to talk quickly in between things. I was talking about that, you know.

Well, we decided to tackle reproductive choice in Ohio.

Right, exactly. And so I didn't want to get bogged down. By me, I mean me, by the way. That was on me. Well, no, a listener brought it up, and I did want to say, yeah, vote yes on issue one. But what did I say instead of enshrined? It was a word that doesn't even mean that. It just began with the same sound, I think.

It was very close, and it let me know you were trying to say enshrined.

I hated that. Let me ask you something about the top of this show, the one that we're recording right now. This is involving one of the drops you just played, so I don't know if you want to get that queued up again. But you played the very first drop you played, I think. It sounded like, so it's a man's voice, and he says something very quickly, conversational. Don't go there. Yeah, don't go there. Don't tell me what that is. For some reason, when you play that.

I don't know what it is, so your secret is safe with me. It's just a drop that says, don't go there.

It sounds like it's from a sporting event, and so I was like, oh, that's Tony Romo, but clearly that's not Tony Romo. He's got a very husky voice, and that's a smooth voice.

It sounds like it's either a post-game interview

or a political event where somebody maybe did something bad. Don't go there.

Okay, yeah. So here's where I went with that, though, in my mind. I'm listening to that. I'm like, oh, that's Tony Romo. I have no idea why I thought that. I'm like, no, that's not Tony Romo. That's probably Paul Rudd. And it's neither one of them. I'm listening to this now. It's neither one of them. That's not my point, though. My point is, during your introduction, as I went on this tiny little short flight of fancy, something was revealed to me about my own brain. And that is somehow I categorize Paul Rudd and Tony Romo in the same space. and I don't know why interesting space is there any like is there do you can you can you help me can you help me with this like think about is there something about the way they carry each other is there something about like do they have brown hair do they look alike they look a little

bit alike a little bit alike I think I think that Tony Romo looks like our friend Camaro Kev used to look when we were coming up together I think they have some facial similarities but um but uh Paul Rudd is well the thing is Paul Rudd is from Kansas City and I don't know where Romo's from but he's quite uh identified with Dallas because he played for the Dallas Cowboys um so it's not a foot it's not like if he was a Kansas City Chief I would say oh it's probably because you've seen Paul Rudd on

the sidelines but uh that's not the case Luke I was not setting this up I was not setting this up But I just Googled Tony Romo, Paul Rudd, and the first hit on the video section is Paul Rudd talks about getting mistaken for Tony Romo.

Wow.

That was from February 14th. Play it again. I want to hear my victory brown note. That was from just this last February in 2023.

Well, there you go.

I honestly did not know that, but in my head, I categorized them. Can we just listen to a second of this? Let's see if this is any good.

i have no idea don't go there ask myself a lot of questions scott you're at ex-con this is a clip

from ant-man and the wasp okay quantum mania but everywhere i go which was in fridays which was in theaters on friday you know one of my favorite things in the movie there's that bit where the coffee guy thinks that you're spider-man and i think i thought to myself like

how often do you get misrecognized like is there somebody that people think you are when they meet you sometimes like oh hey it's good and do you go with it it doesn't really happen so much that

somebody might think that i'm somebody else although it i think it had happened a couple of times years ago sometimes people thought i was ben affleck i've gone with that i've rolled with that um i've had more than one person tell me that uh i look like tony romo but tony romo is also I think like six six three or something like that he's a little bit you know but uh those are

the those by the way okay the most interesting thing about this was in that little clip that they played from Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania is um did you recognize a voice in that so I have

yeah I actually have a lot of questions about that okay yeah um first thing is is that a like a junket interview related to so it's like he's promoting the movie yes and he's doing one of those he's doing one of those um those junket type of deals where they they bring in a bunch of people you know from local or maybe they at this point they put them on some kind of studio hookup and you know he jumps on a variety of probably like local television programs in different cities to promote the thing so that he can promote it very widely across the country but from one location. Now I've talked about this on the show endlessly, but I just, the mere tone of voice of somebody interviewing him on a junket thing really, really gives me an unsettled feeling because of my own insecurity and how I could have very well seen my job life going towards where I'm going like, was it, how was it working with Salma Hayek? You know, like that energy really doesn't sort of match for me, but then also it sounded slightly like Billy Bush.

oh it's not i don't think it's billy bush this is from fox 5 washington dc okay but in the clip so at the beginning of this they're playing a clip of the ant-man movie oh i see okay and there's a very quick looks like sort of cameo of someone that i was surprised to see is in the movie take a listen to this again i'm gonna tell me the same thing thank you spider-man do you know who that is It's the person saying, thank you, Spider-Man. Are they well-known? They are well-known in our circle, but they are not well-known. People tell me the same thing.

Thank you, Spider-Man.

Oh, he immediately. He immediately. The idea just whiffed out your brain, didn't it? It is the guy from I Think You Should Leave. Yeah, I forget his name.

Oh, my God. He immediately.

That's him.

that guy's really having a moment yeah good for him i mean he is i forget the guy's name as well but it's i mean that's an interesting so for i think you should leave obsessed people like me and andrew um oh by the way on halloween i almost adopted andrew i don't know legally if you can do this but i almost adopted like a 32 year old couple out when i was out on halloween because i loved them so much becca and i were going to the photo booth thing that they because we were dressed up you know she was barbie i was ken jennings and i we went in a little photo booth thing at the 21st avenue pub and as we were coming out there was a guy who was dressed in like a big suit and i also was mildly drunk i thought he was i thought maybe he was being david byrne from stop making sense so i was like what up stop making sense guy and he goes oh no you got to see the other part and it was his girlfriend was dressed like a hot dog and it was like who could have done this you know they were doing that i think you should leave when the hot dog car crashes into the clothing store and so he was being one of the other people was he being the guy was his suit like brown and orange he was the guy in the suit that was vaguely hot dog colored which was just like an odd little kind of subtle thing going on and so then then of course i was like because becca's not a big i think you should leave head so then i just shifted into oh my gosh i can't even tell you how much i love that show and then we just went we started singing moon river rock we like we were going deep and the this guy was they were a newlywed couple they'd been married for maybe like six months they both seemed very together and i'm sure very doing very well in their life but i somehow felt this paternal instinct around them like do you need to come live with me or can i can i be your uh like godparent or something and because they were like we hope that when we're your age we'll be just like you two like they were being it was like this weird cross-generational like love fest built around i think you should leave wow there were

about 10 years younger than you is that what you said they're probably more probably like 15 maybe

okay maybe early 30s oh god anyway point is uh if you're not an i think you should leave head you maybe wouldn't know that that this

guy that's in this sketch that they do where they're trying to come up with new ideas for a car and this guy just has these really terrible ideas but he's very convicted about them and he's just kind of a quirky dude and i you know i feel like i see him in i mean he's been in both he's been in a couple seasons i think you should leave now and like there he is in ant-man versus wasp or whatever that thing was called um where i have a feeling i could be totally wrong about this my feeling is that like before he got on i think you should leave he would have more likely been someone that was on tim and eric awesome show great job you know what i mean like a kind of a quirky person who's going out for tons of auditions in la because i had never seen him in anything before that and it's just so interesting how one little and same for the guy who plays santa claus oh yeah who's then in the later sketch uh he plays crash what's his name crash uh wilmore or something but it's like santa claus playing crash wilmore in the in some kind of a movie but he doesn't want to talk speaking of junkets he doesn't want to talk about the fact that he's

actually santa yeah which i strongly believe that that is somehow inspired by the billy bob thornton being a jerk exactly it's got there's dna of that there's got to be yeah there's got to be a definitely a hint of that i didn't really love his sketch in season three you didn't like the

one where he kind of just goes goes he basically has like an existential crisis at like a kid's

like musical production yeah right right he goes into a empty classroom during a musical production at a grade school and just apparently goes ham on the entire room and destroys it and I can't remember why

not like I want to be clear not like in a violent there's no kids around he's just tearing down like the shitty like construction paper artwork and stuff because I think it's somebody has said something I think in the musical that's one of those kind of things that we say that you know we tell kids to sing a song about how like you can do anything or life can be whatever you want it to be it's one of those kind of like sort of i don't know if you'd call it a bromide or something it's just like a thing that you say that honestly gets beaten out of you by the time you're an adult like you're just like yeah life is not a wonderful dream but he for some reason this particular little bit of messaging just goes right into this like 64 year old guy's brain to where he goes from he just basically feels zero constraints of societal pressure anymore and somehow tim robinson has brought along with him was like maybe this is a bridge too far so i have a question for you that

will definitely be interesting to the listeners as well especially those who have no concept of i think you should leave good you said that um mr whiff out the window mr he admitted he ends up in

a second sketch too i have no recollection of that yes and i also cannot quite pull it to the front of my brain but he is i noted it that he's in another because i was i get very interested in people like this because again and i could be totally wrong he could be he could have been like a massive star i think he might be from i want to see he's from a south american country originally i think he's from brazil or argentina like i looked this guy up one time he might have been you know the jerry lewis of of somewhere else i don't think he is though i think he's a quirky dude who was you know thinks of himself as a funny man and who was it living presumably in los angeles and was just going out on calls and somehow his kind of odd oddball nature and what the i think you should leave people doing the casting it all kind of came together and it's like man if he wouldn't have gone to that audition i just don't see him becoming he's just a very kind of outside the norm type of guy and actor and all of those things and like and it's just interesting there's a couple of there's a couple of actors that i feel like i think you should leave has has really put them kind of maybe on a certain map or put them now up for more jobs that they probably wouldn't have been but just because of the quirkiness of i think you should leave there's There's also the woman who – the back-off banana breath woman who makes the T-shirt because they are having an HR – that's the show – or that's the sketch starring your former landlord. I just think she's great in that, and I hadn't seen her in anything before. Now, she might have been working in a lot of things I didn't know about, but anyway. Yeah, so that guy is in another sketch, but I can't tell you which one it is.

Now, I could be totally wrong about this if you've got eyes on this guy way more than I do, but I'm kind of surprised to hear that analysis because, I mean, with the exception of him getting hopefully a little bit of a payday by having this very tiny cameo, what I assume to be a very tiny cameo in the Ant-Man movie, like, has he been able to turn this appearance, and I think you should leave in this sort of cult performance, into something that much bigger? cameo i saw him on cameo yeah i'm sure yeah no that i believe cameo i saw him on tiktok i've seen his name is tiktok shit and like his tiktok stuff is like you know really not funny like it's just him kind of doing that and that's why i sort of wonder it's like that's why i'm glad to see that like hey somebody at mark

Marvel has a sense of humor. They throw him in there. He gets a little bit paid. But I doubt that it's really, I mean, aside from him having, like, some underground status, again, on TikTok or Cameo, like, has it been, we're not really seeing him in any kind of a career.

I don't mean, by the way, his name is Ruben Rabasa, and he's actually from Cuba. So apologies for me thinking Cuba was in South America. That's one I won't live down for a while. Everybody knows it's in Europe. Uh-huh. Thank you. Ruben Rabasa is a Cuban-born American actor and comedian best known for his roles in I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson and Ant-Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. His appearance in the Netflix variety series shot him to fame after 50 years of acting. Rabasa parlayed his newfound celebrity into projects, including a one-man show. So I guess what I'm trying to say and say this delicately is I don't think that this guy is going to be the next, you know, sort of teen heartthrob or is going to be kids these days. Am I right? I don't think that he's not going to be the next matinee idol, Andrew. No, I don't. I'm not trying to say that he's parlaying this into some overly lucrative or that he's somehow ubiquitous. I just mean, and I'm totally just guessing at this based on what I think I know about the world. I feel like this guy, Ruben Rabasa, was just bouncing around. He was a borderline Tommy Wiseau character, like somebody who just kind of had a dream. And if you, I don't know who you were sort of palling around with in L.A. when you were there. I had a few friends like this. I had a few friends like this in Seattle. Sometimes you meet someone, particularly when you're younger, particularly if you're into things like stand-up comedy and other performative things, who just they've got they just refuse to take reality for an answer you know they're just like going up and doing stand-up comedy nobody's laughing but they're just sticking with it or they're just auditioning for plays that no one's going to see like and they're like they just do not let their lack of natural ability for performing stop them from performing and they just go for it and la is full of those people um and i just kind of feel like ruben rebasa was a very uniquely shaped peg that finally found a slot which was basically that one skit from i think you should leave but my guess would be from cameo alone he's probably upgraded his life a little bit because there i mean there is just there are millions of mostly dudes of a certain age who if they got a cameo of him saying your birthday just whiffed whiffed out the window you'd be like holy shit it's the it's the he admit it guy hey andrew i'm not going to do the impression but andrew this is ruben rebasa um uh i heard you're turning 47 this year oh my god you admit it like that would be there are a lot of people that would pay some some decent money to get that so anyway i guess

that's what i was saying he played man dancing with phyllis in a tv series called better things

if imdb is better things is a good show oh is it oh yeah it's starring uh i i really liked better things actually it's starring oh boy uh i'm sorry i'm blanking on her name but uh she's the voice of bobby hill uh is it pamela aid adlon yep it's pam pamela adlon and it's a really good show she's very nuanced and just as a side note pamela adlon is the voice of bobby hill from king

of the hill interesting it looks like he really was only unless imdb is wrong which it could be because imdb is not the imdb i grew up with oh i've said it for years but uh it looks like he was just in one episode of i think you should leave i don't think he was he was apparently

though in a show uh 2016 a sitcom called wrecked which also starred reese darby our favorite uh band manager from flight of the concords and he was i think he he appeared it was from 20 it was on tbs and he appeared from 2016 to 2018 so that would have been you know he was some kind of

recurring character yeah and he's uh i mean he's got a lot more credits than i would have thought I'm assuming that most of them aren't recurring like the one you the one you just mentioned sounds like that was a recurring character. But like, you know, he was it looks like in at least one episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., you know, like he was he was like it looks like a background. I don't know if they call him background actors, but it looks like he got little parts much longer than I would have guessed. I almost you mentioned the Tim and Eric ness of him because he's such a kind of an outsider kind of guy. I was I would have been open to the idea that they found him off the street, you know, and put him in a sketch. Because I feel like Tim and Eric sort of did that, right? Or maybe they were, I guess they were sort of mining the depths of L.A.'s cable access shows for a lot of their characters.

That, but also I think some folks that were, and when you say streets, you mean like street performers.

Yeah, yeah, but literally like not audition type of things.

Right, like, what's his name? Liebman.

Yeah, yeah, right, yeah.

Who I walked by the Hollywood Bowl. How can I be speaking? on his name not not John David Liebman but it's something something in that neighborhood but he's a real let's just say outside artist sort of performer and became kind of popular on that show which I sort of wonder about a little I'm sure this has also come up on our program like where's the line for for like Tim and Eric awesome show which we're both big fans of like they're definitely the joke they were giving work they were presumably giving like sag work to people that were trying to make it in acting so that's like a plus but definitely the people were being cast and brought on I think because they were kind of unconventional and their very existence was comedic in a way David

Hart Liebman or something David Hart Liebman I believe that said he drew a

picture of me and Genevieve yeah I walked by him leaving the Hollywood Bowl and I think I was taking a picture to send to you and he was playing his music and And just interrupt the song to be like, $5, $5. And I was like, yes, I'm going to give you the $5. I'm just taking the picture. And then I'll put my camera down. And then I will put the $5 in your bowl.

David Liebhardt, actually. David Liebhardt. Yeah, but we met him outside of, we weren't looking for him or anything. He was just sitting on a bench with a bunch of his art supplies and selling mixed CDs. Or no, no, not mixed CDs, his own music on CD. I think I might have bought one of those. And he did a caricature of me and Genevieve. and that was all outside of the La Brea Tar Pits Museum there. Oh, wow. It was just a random Saturday. How was that?

I never went to that museum all my time living there.

You know, it's very small, but, you know, it is what it is. You go outside a little bit, and you can actually see some of the tar bubbling up. But it's not a grand experience. What I love about it is it's just like so L.A. in that way. It's just kind of like that's literally – it's been so long since I've lived there, and my memory for kind of geography is just awful. But that's on the main drag there, not too far from the farmer's market. I think it's kind of in Fairfax, right? Yeah.

But there's, yeah, there's that farmer's market, and then there's like, well, there's literally La Brea, the street.

Yeah, exactly. So anyway, but it's just like so LA, because it's just like such a weird thing that's just in the middle of a city. It's in the middle of commerce. And it's just like, yeah, we got some tar bubbling up here, so we got some statues of old dinosaurs. You can sort of see what it would have looked like if they got sucked, when they got sucked into the tar or whatnot. It's such a strange little pocket of the world.

Andrew, speaking of sucking things up.

Okay.

We have got to get to this Dyson situation because I almost can't handle the excitement or at least the anticipation. Let's thank some donors and then let's get into the real sweet spot for TBTL, which is vacuum talk.

Thank you, baby.

Hey, let's thank some of our donors. These are the folks that are keeping TBTL going. This is, as of right this moment, 100%. Is there something more than 100%, Andrew?

You know, Luke, you can probably tell from my performance, but when I get behind this microphone, I give it 110% every damn day.

This show is 110% listener-supported. That's right. The donations from folks like Lauren Jordle of Atlanta, Georgia. Hey, Atlanta. I like Atlanta. What up, Lauren?

I like Lauren, too. Thanks, Lauren.

We've also got Jennifer Horner, or maybe even Horner, in Seattle, Washington. I've got these old eyes, Andrew. I've got to look in. Yeah, there's an R in there. There is, and it's not silent.

It's been silent for much too long.

Stop erasing, Luke, the R in Jennifer's.

There is something about that R and the N next to each other.

The R going into the N, and the font that I have, I need to just, you know what? Thank you, Jennifer Horner, for bringing this to the surface of my life, which is I'm going into my mail, I'm going into settings, I'm changing the font that's in the messages, and I'm making it much bigger, and it's going to really change my life because as of right now, again, these old eyes, because I got a new computer and so it's, you know, it's defaulting. There it is. Wait, it just deleted the whole message. Yeah, there you go. Not what I was going for. Jennifer Harner of Seattle, Washington. Thank you, Jennifer. Something else that I made a point to not talk to you about, Andrew, but now I'm going to tell you about it because it's relevant to the fact that this is listener-supported podcasting. I was listening to an episode of the truly spectacular show Heavyweight today oh man yeah they got a new season out by the way year oh I should get back into that well worth it Jonathan Goldstein and the the team over there are just master storytellers one of my very favorite

things in the world and they now owe us a promo that's the important thing this is officially

cross-promoting Gimlet look into it

You

But I was listening to, I think it's maybe the first episode in this new season, and it's this unbelievably riveting story that Jonathan Goldstein is telling about a guy that he grew up with named Lenny, who they had been really close as children, and they had fallen out of touch, and Lenny was very ill. And it's just this unbelievably Well told story And it just builds and builds And then there's a Hugely dramatic moment where Jonathan says My mother called me And told me that Lenny had died By the way that's not a spoiler That's pretty much late You know at the beginning of the piece what's going to happen So I'm not ruining it I don't want to lose that cross promo With Heavyweight he says um and that's you know my mother uh called me to tell me that lenny had died do you want to be driven happy carvana there was a flipping carvana ad that auto populated or whatever the terminology is for it right at that emotional the like it didn't and it didn't even i didn't even get a second to breathe it was just like this like huge plot if you want to call it that plot twist In the story or at least plot point in the story And I'm just like I'm doing my Slow walk on the treadmill because that's what I'm doing now for exercise while I'm on an H2O Diet and I'm like I'm like oh my gosh okay And it just goes into a Carvana ad Andrew and I just all I could think was Thank God for Christian McKee Of Portland Oregon

Just kidding There's no R's in there I like to have fun

Carvana Thanks also to Rachel Howard Till of Woodland, California for making it so, at least as of right now. If we were ever to actually have a moment of emotional resonance on this show, under the current system, we don't have to go right from that into something that's just very, very tonally different. And by the way, none of that is a criticism of the fine folks at Heavyweight because, again, that is just a spectacular show. It's so good at what it does that when I then heard a Carvana ad, I wanted to I don't know what I wanted to do It just changed my emotional state for that moment

Although the producers should Acknowledge the fact that We don't know exactly what ad is going to come up here Maybe use some music Give it some space, do something

That is a good point And I do think it confirms what we've all thought Which is that this show is better than Heavyweight

And that I'm a better producer than anybody at Gimlet

You really would think of that though Andrew, truthfully And I wonder That's a really good question I'll send some emails

Please do Sign them my name

Whoa

Excuse me

Thanks Christian Stanley Of Hadley, Massachusetts By the way, Rachel Howard Till in Woodland, California I think that's not Woodland Hills Because old Walt B. grew up in Woodland Hills I guess Woodland is different

It's less nilly It is, it's a little flatter

Thanks Rachel, thanks Christian again In Hadley, Massachusetts Do you know where that is? Did you ever get out to Hadley when you were?

There was the famous Battle of Hadley. No, I don't know if there was a Battle of Hadley. No, I don't know anything about Hadley.

Well, there was that band, right? Hadley Drung Boy. Kind of popular.

I'm handling this Hadley.

Carvana. The listeners are like, could we actually go back to some Carvana hats? Yeah, please. Can we go back to whatever is not this? Thanks also to Robin Burlingham Of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada Wow, that is fun That is fun to say

It's fun to hear I don't know if I could say it Without stumbling

Saskatoon comes up a lot in What is the name of that The Kroll show Wheels, Ontario Yeah, yeah I feel like that's a

People don't tuck in their blooses here, Mom

But is he He's not Canadian by nature, is he? Or by background No, I don't think so

I think he grew up Outside of D.C. Is that where he grew up? I was going to say for some reason I had like kind of Richie California vibes, but no, I think he's an East Coaster.

Well, Richie, because, you know, the whole, you know, his dad founded something called like the Kroll Agency, which is like the nation's most financially profitable private investigation firm.

I didn't know that. I knew that he grew up super rich. I feel like he sort of drips. I feel like he that's one of the things that I struggle with with him a little bit. And I don't know what it is. Like he talks about it. He makes fun of himself. It's not like he's a – but there is something that just sort of drips privilege from him and sort of all of his characters, I sort of feel – or not all of his characters, but in his stand-up and everything. And there's – I mean, listen, he grew up how he grew up. You know what I mean? Like he's not an a-hole, I don't think. No. But there's just something about that that is always a little bit tough for me to crack with him. He just seems like such a rich kid.

It just also seems to me to be –

such a weird way for your dad to have made a bunch of money. Like it's not like his dad was like in the railroad, you know, he didn't own a railroad company or something, or like, I don't know what people do, an investment banker or something. It's like private dick, like the Kroll agency.

Yeah, that is interesting. That is pretty interesting, yeah.

But anyway, we look forward to Nick Kroll redirecting some of that Kroll agency or whatever the name of the company, Kroll and Associates, towards this program. In the meantime, we have Robin Burlingham taking care of us and all of our other donors today. Thank you so much. We really appreciate you. We could not do this without you. Hello and welcome to Top Story. All right, Andrew, the moment we've all been waiting for. this is the edited version by the way the real one is even longer i love the barbie movie it's actually kind of a beautiful piece of music as i was recording it today like this was not written for the movie 2001 i mean this was just a kind of beautiful piece of orchestral music. Well, that's about all the time we have. We'll be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you. Now, if you caught, I think it was the Monday edition of the show this week, I was hot. I was hot at the folks at Costco, at the returns department at Costco, particularly somebody who was known as the vacuum queen. Because I had brought in this Dyson vacuum that I had bought, one of those cordless numbers. And they're not cheap. I think they go for like maybe $400 or $500. And I brought this thing in because it would just, it would have full battery power. I would start vacuuming with it and then it would just die and they would say like it has no vacuum or it has no battery power and then I would kind of wait five seconds and then try it again and then it would work but it was getting worse and it was becoming to the point where I couldn't even it just wasn't functional what I was mad about was that the guy had told me and Becca he just confided in us that this is the most returned item to this Costco and I had what I thought were all the attachments and accoutrements in uh like a bag and uh and of course the whole thing and uh it turns out i was missing oh i'll mention this andrew i wasn't just missing one attachment

i was in like three i was so you know i was doing some vacuuming the other day i told you i got home and thinking of me and i was and i because i was looking at all my attachments and i was like you and i i had a feeling and i was like i it wasn't like i held back from challenging you in the moment but I you did mention that there are three attachments I'm like no there are four and I listed them all the ones that I have and then I was like okay you have a different vacuum than me or something and then when I was putting away some vacuum attachments the other day um I realized no no there are five or six there are a whole bunch and I was like that was probably what the issue was that you weren't missing one but probably if you only had three you were potentially missing

three others i think i was missing three because there's this weird gooseneck thing that you can add to it so you can like apparently like vacuum your like the corners of your ceiling oh there's some kind of extend extendo thing that i also hadn't brought whoa that's because i'm in the

market for one of these by the way so this is that's interesting so don't try to return to costco without all the parts so it's bendy huh they have a bendy attachment now i could get into

that it's bendy and what it allows you to do is basically have kind of a like a right angle i guess or something uh-huh if you need to get over something but here's here's the thing i was don't

rush through this luke this is the most important thing that we could possibly discuss is what my potentially future vacuum cleaner might contain well i was pretty ticked off because as i told

the story on monday but like it was actually on the saturday of the weekend and the saturday that most people were out celebrating Halloween if that was their thing. And I had been, Becca and I had been running around Portland and the greater Portland area, going to all these places that are just kind of like the places that I don't generally like to go on a busy day because it's just a hassle. It was like Spirit Halloween, Office Depot, a couple of other places. We just kept having to go to like the world's most jammed up parking lot. It's like go into, you know, the, I don't know, the grocery store the day before Thanksgiving or something. So I was just kind of, I was pretty frazzled. I was pretty just like ready. to be done and then to wait in this long line and bring this whole vacuum cleaner thing in and i thought i really thought i was i i commented to becca walking and i was like i'm really glad i brought all these attachments um because it would really suck if if we had to like you know if they wouldn't take it back after all of this because i really thought i had all of them i had i don't want to keep relitigating this but the the thing to me that's odd is they build this containment device which is also how you recharge it and it's got these little ports on it but it only works for two things i feel like they need to redesign it so that it holds all of the attachments to me it's it is a bit odd that you've got like you've got something to contain a couple of attachments but then the the consumer is gonna have to figure out another situation for storing everything else yeah

that's i i agree with that that's been because i love my vacuum i've had it for about five years now but um that that always struck me as a bit i mean it does seem like a design challenge i don't i mean these are awkward things some of them are big and have moving parts like the actual attachments so i don't know what the answer is but for a company that does pride itself on design it does seem like a weird oversight well so i stormed out of there they still had becca's

costco cards stamped out of there it was part stamp part storm all classy yes um by the way i do think that um a good i don't know i can't remember what you named monday's show but now that we're revisiting could we call this episode attachments disorder oh yeah that's

great that's fantastic i actually need a i i need a show title can we agree that you stormed out of

there jackie stormstomp it was it was not my finest moment i felt i felt pretty embarrassed the like well as soon as i cleared the costco and realized becca was still in there waiting for her card and she's like she's probably often disappointed in me but she's really incredible at not indicating how disappointed in me she is she's like a very just like kind of go with the flow calm person this is one of the few times where I could just see in her eyes like she was like that was not you did not handle that well like we don't have arguments we don't like it's a very it's a very peaceful situation between her and I and very kind of non-judgmental which I appreciate because I'm fragile but this was one of those times where she was like you know I was gonna see if I could have talked him into something and I was just like I was really I would I was I'd really gone full George Costanza I think was like they were not gonna negotiate you know I was like that was my state of mind okay so I get home and I'm like well I guess I got to find the other attachments so that we can take this thing back i.e. so Becca can take this thing back but I um so I found the other attachments and then when I found out there was more than one that was also another layer of me being kind of like a little bit more kind of feeling bad about how i handle it because if it was one falls it was more i was literally trying to not use chagrin again only because i feel like we at some point have to start paying somebody some kind of a like licensing like a per use fee on chagrin but i started to be like like my already kind of feeling like boy that was not i didn't handle that well because what i said was well maybe don't sell things that break as i was grabbing my jefferson county land trust bag and putting the stuff back in it and storming out, or stomping, stomping out? Stomping. Stormping out. What part of stomping don't you understand? So then when I find, so then when I get to the whatever box I had the other attachments in, and I see it's not just one, but it's like two or three more things, I'm like, all right, the vacuum queen may have had a point. But Andrew, this was about the same time that I received an email from listener Justin, who said, hey, Luke, I feel the Costco scenario. Thank you, Justin, by the way, for feeling me on the Costco scenario. You might've already figured this out, but Dyson's do this when they need the filter cleaned. You wash it out, you let it dry, and it is as good as new. Drywall dust is super fine and hella clogs filters. I found this out doing home construction and using our Dyson to clean the floors. Emoji that is looking sad with a tear coming off of its forehead. Signed, Justin. and I realized something. Now, I had not vacuumed up actual drywall dust with this, but I had, when I first got it out of my excitement, run it in the part of the house a little bit, just as a test. I had run this Dyson in the part of the house where there had been a lot of construction and a lot of fine, sort of fine dust.

And so what I did was I went online and went to some YouTube channel, probably run by Dyson, figured out how to take the filter out, wash it. It's been sitting on my windowsill like the last two it says dry it for 24 hours but it still felt damp to me so it's now finally dry andrew the battery is charged and we are right here on the air going to test out if this was just the filter or if the vacuum queen of costco owes me an apology let me just

Let me delay this gratification by just another moment to say something.

Or satification, because it's very possible that I'll start doing the vacuuming and that it'll just die after, like, three seconds, too. I don't know. I have not tested this, Andrew. I can't stress that enough.

I want to give a shout-out also to listener Hauser, a.k.a. J-Dog, a.k.a. our personal friend who also listens to the show. I don't know if you know this about him. This is for real. He is a vacuum aficionado. He knows a leak. I don't know if he collects vacuums, but he definitely I walked into a vacuum shop with him one time.

It was he's not vacuum man, though, right? No, no, he's not sticking.

But no, he he knows a lot about vintage vacuum cleaners. He's kind of obsessed with vacuum cleaners. He has a lot of knowledge around that. And so he called into the voicemail line to also say, try cleaning your filter. The reason I didn't. And this is the thing on the back of it, right? Like, I do want to say, like, I know about this filter thing and I do know that it can make your vacuum shut down. But the reason this didn't even enter the conversation for me is because I thought this was a brand-new vacuum cleaner. So I thought there's no way this is a filter issue. But I guess if you had been using it in a pretty heavy construction site, that could be it.

Yes, it's possible because I know it's not – it can't be the battery. The battery, you know, is brand new. It is new. Like, literally, I got it. i was so excited about it that i you know put it screwed the charger into one of the like you know kind of partially constructed walls in my living room started it to charging and then when it was sufficiently charged i wanted to sort of test it out now again i didn't run it through like a pile of of drywall dust or anything but i i mean there was there was just a lot of fine dust matter that may have kind of gotten clogged up in there or not i don't know but that's why you know I'm intrigued by this I mean I sure hope that that's the case because all I want is this vacuum cleaner thing just a functioning version of it so if it was as easy if the fix was as easy as wash out the filter then I'm gonna this is gonna be a really a great outcome for me and let me just

say one other thing too they are not joking when they say you got to let it dry out all the way I don't know if you remember this I think I talked about this on the show but like I have an you'll be surprised to hear I have a somewhat embarrassing memory of when Genevieve's brother I'll just name it I was going to try to be coy there but Genevieve's brother came to visit us and stay with us for a few days this is years ago now and he was bringing his dog who is the best trained dog that I've literally ever met it is amazing it's almost like magic he'll just say you don't walk in this room and then the dog never walks in the room during the whole stay but I remember he was coming over and And he was going to stay with us for a few days with Swayze, his dog, who I adore. But I remember thinking, like, I'm going to have to really be vacuuming up a lot of dog hair. And I want to stay on top of this. And I thought that my vacuum was broken. And I had a little bit of a meltdown. I remember being kind of pouty around him and Genevieve right as he arrived, being like, I don't know how I'm going to do this without a vacuum. And it's an embarrassing memory for me. And the thing is, it wasn't my vacuum wasn't broken. It was just that I hadn't let the filter dry all the way through. And it will do that. it will shut down immediately so I put it back on and it had some dampness so you really do like 24 hours at least to let it dry all the way through so your

instinct and you know me I'm an impatient type so I I was going to actually try to do this on yesterday's show but it still felt like the filter was not fully dry so I've been it now let me just double check here very excited about this it's well it might be the tiniest bit damp still hmm I don't know or it's just cold

you said it's been more than 24 hours it's been two days i mean it's been one week um okay so

should we just go ahead and do this i i've been i re-plugged it in i really want it to be max battery power because i don't want there to be any kind of um you know uh i don't i don't for for the purposes of this research i don't want there to be i don't want to be a low battery issue that could be confusing us as to if it's still the filter okay can i say one other thing

too if it is the filter there will be i believe a light that goes on on the side when it shuts down on you that shows you like a little tube, I think a U-shaped tube or something that'll flash at you if it's a filter issue.

Oh, oh yeah. You know what it kind of looks like? Well, if you've got the same one, if you've got the same design, it kind of looks like a P-trap under your sink, right? Yeah, that's exactly

what I was trying to think of that word. Yes, exactly. It looks like the piping under your sink. Taking it out of the...

It's off the charger now. I think we're at, let's see, we're at like probably 80% power. So I think this should be a good, going to move the mic down. Now, Andrew, when I start this, if it goes for more than five seconds, I think we have success. Okay. So this is all, I'm sorry.

Can I set up, do you want me to set up a timer? Should we go for 15, it's 15 solid seconds?

Stopwatch or anything?

Yeah, hold on. Give me one second here. I wasn't prepared for this, obviously. Okay, I'm ready to hit start.

Okay, here we go. In three, two, one.

Okay, two seconds. Three seconds.

Okay.

Five.

This is the longest it's ever gone. We're about to hit ten.

We're about to hit ten. Ten seconds. Ten seconds. We're up to 13, 14, 15 seconds. We have a wiener. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a wiener. 20 seconds. 21. Do you want me just to keep going? Do you want me just to vacuum for the rest of the show? Actually, don't give me any ideas. Andrew, I think we fixed it. And it was dust. So it was dust.

It was dust. Listener Justin.

And Hauser. You just didn't hear it.

And Hauser, although he never told me. If he was a real friend, he would have told me. I'm just going to be vacuuming. This is Andrew. I got to play our traditional celebration song.

Can I just say, you're playing a very dangerous game right now, and I want you to think about the impact of your actions for once in your life. If you open up the door of us being allowed to vacuum while we're doing the podcast, you're going to be on the losing end of that. so think very carefully about the rules that we set by example uh there's two things if there are

two doors that we can't open on the show vacuuming during the program and drinking during like on the regular anyway i'm not talking about like a four thousandth but like if if either of those

doors get open we may not be able to shut yeah exactly dude i'll get myself a portable lavalier mic i will do that i we oh man that would actually that might be an interesting episode Can we set something up where I can putter during the show? God, what if I were doing dishes during the show? That would be great.

Somehow I see you. Sorry, it is a little addictive because there's a lot of stuff around here that I've been kind of seeing, which is the opposite of ignoring. Seeing. And so now that I just have this cordless, high-powered wand that will just whisk them up and just whiff them into the vacuum cleaner, it is actually kind of a little bit addictive because like there's all there's like you know little crumbs and dead bugs and things that i've just been kind of looking at for the last few days thinking oh i got to sweep those up and now i can just like like just just got just got some of them right there like i have this magical wand in my hand now that can just make any kind of uh you know dust and dirt on the floor go away and like

who wouldn't want to just kind of do a little although there's a lesson here right because now you know like if you only use that once and that filter like i change my i shouldn't say change i clean that filter on mine about i'm gonna say i don't know two or three times a year and if you're saying this thing was new and it already did that that means you might want to use

your like shop vac for the heavier stuff exactly oh definitely like i'm never this is not this is not going to go into the construction zone at all this is gonna this is gonna stay out here for now where things are much more finished off and um but yeah i i didn't even meet and actually you know what's kind of funny is like now I remember that when I I was literally just so excited to use it when it was charged up initially that I just ran it over a random section of floor and I noticed that this kind of very fine brown dust had kind of populated if you will or fill not filled up but just kind of like like you know there's like regular dust and and and dust bunnies and things like that and then there's something that's so fine that it almost goes like it's like sucked

up into this and dense though right like if you get enough of it it ends like me dense fine and dense no but you know what i mean like you get enough of it it makes sense to me it's not like a fluffy dust once you get enough of it because it's gonna be it's drywall you know

precisely or whatever this was and so um i i don't mean to keep stressing that but there was no drywall in the house at the time oh that's not the hill i want to die on but it was something comparably um fine and dense so yeah same same principle applying and yeah it was that was that was what i did now do i owe the vacuum queen and her cohort uh do i owe them an apology you mean here on the podcast or actually showing up to apologize in either i'm i mean if you want

if you want to say i you know i sometimes there's something freeing about saying i was in the wrong on something, I mean, that's fine to do here. I wouldn't bother these people at work. Really? I mean, I would probably.

Don't you think it would make, they'd be like, when the vacuum queen gets, you know, got home from work, you know, on whatever that day was, she might say to her partner or, you know, her pets or whoever else lives in the house, I had the most interesting thing happen today. This guy came in. I thought he kind of looked a little bit familiar, but.

I'm sorry.

He was like.

Like, hey, I was here with a Jefferson County Land Trust bag recently and a Dyson vacuum cleaner, and I kind of had a meltdown. And I'm sorry, I was just having a bad day, and I really was in the wrong. Also, by the way, I was the one who broke the vacuum. Wow. Don't you think that would make for a good story?

Maybe. I mean, maybe I'm underestimating the scene that you made. I got the impression this is one of those things where it felt like a big scene in your head, but really you were just a little put out.

Well, there was storming.

There was definitely storming. You're a stormtrooper.

Storming. Storming is the opposite of walking like a normal person. Yeah, I think probably I think the meltdown was not the worst they've seen, but also more of a meltdown than I tend to have in those situations. For all of my trouble emotionally regulating myself in various scenarios, I will say that I am not a person who freaks out in public very often or who gets outwardly angry at people in customer service roles. I just feel like usually they're just doing their best. And so I don't really want to, like, make it harder on them. And then or they're being outright rude, but it's just like not worth it or not outright rude, but being outright unhelpful. And even then it's like, what am I going to be that quote unquote? Well, I'm not even going to say the name because we have a lot of listeners with that name. But am I going to be that person melting down in the store at somebody who's, you know, just there maybe having a bad day?

So for me, it felt like manager type of situation.

Exactly. I felt like it felt like a big meltdown to me. And mostly it was probably just Becca's the disappointment in Becca's eyes. But as far as meltdowns they've seen, I bet you it's not even top 20 for them.

Yeah, I'm probably I'm guessing that, too. Like, that's what I thought you had going on. It was one of those things where I, I storm out of a place, but it's like, to me, it feels like I've made the biggest scene in the world, but because I don't really actually want to make a scene, it's probably not that big of a deal in the eyes of others.

The other thing I wanted to mention really quickly was this article, uh, I saw in the Seattle times, but it was written up in other places where, uh, Jeff Bezos, uh, announced via, I guess, Instagram or something that he's leaving Seattle. in the nerve center and he's by the way sorry this is the video from instagram which i think is him it's jeff bezos when he was you know probably 25 years old or something in the like the kind of like earliest earliest days of amazon the uh first office of amazon.com inc and uh okay this is my desk here and i think famously he's got one of those door desks that have become such part of the lore of that company. And then I think the video is just him at a very young age in the most humble days of Amazon, but he writes, Seattle's been my home since 1994 when I started Amazon out of my garage, et cetera, et cetera. I've lived in Seattle longer than I've lived anywhere else and have so many amazing memories here. As exciting as the move is, it's an emotional decision for me. Seattle, you will always have a piece of my heart. I guess he's moving to Florida. This is my question. Andrew, did you have even the remotest of ideas that Jeff Bezos technically lived in Seattle?

Hmm. No, I mean, I guess.

A man who owns probably 40 homes.

Yeah, well, that's kind of the thing. It's like I immediately was like, well, when I read this news, I was like, oh, well, why do you have to move? You own homes all over the world, probably.

Just stay in your Florida home more.

And then I was like, oh, taxes, obviously. You've got to list a home somewhere, and it's got to be a tax thing, and I looked it up, And, yeah, it's because Washington just passed this capital gains tax.

Do you think he's actually that concerned about losing more of his fortune to capital gains? This is a legitimate question.

I'm being serious. No, yes. I think that – I mean the reason that – one of the reasons I detest him so much is because he does everything he possibly can to not pay taxes in the city and state that he has had a huge impact on, I would argue, for the worse.

See, that's really interesting. I'm not disagreeing with you. That didn't even occur to me. I figured he just wanted to, I mean, that's such, what you're saying is such a, it's so much more of a, what's the word I'm looking for, realistic assessment of the situation. I just thought, the story that I'd written in my mind was, and of course he's moving to Florida, I guess it would be Florida or Nevada, right? Would those be his other two options?

I'm not sure about Nevada, but I mean, also I just have heard about so many, like there was some huge, like billion, I don't know if he was huge, But there was some super rich billionaire that also made headlines recently by moving to Florida. So that just sort of because they're, you know, they don't they don't like to tax people there so much.

Well, no offense, but I got to say fee on The Seattle Times. I won't mention the writer, but I read this whole article unless I skipped over it. I don't see any reference to the fact that this would save Bezos a lot of money based on taxes.

I mean, I think part of how my thoughts on this were shaped were because I had read the Seattle Times piece. And it's like Bezos bought a waterfront mansion in Florida in August and then bought the neighboring home. And it's just like listing his other homes and that his parents live in Florida and stuff like that. There's no mention in this that this is a financial move for him, which is not me saying you're wrong. It's me saying this article has left out some relevant information.

Well, yeah. And I'll be honest with you. I read the blurb in The Stranger, too. You know, The Stranger on Instagram. I'm sure The Stranger mentioned it. No, they didn't. That's what I was about to say. So I read the Seattle Times piece because it was one of the main headlines there. And then The Stranger on Instagram will do little news blurbs that you can scroll through. And I was kind of surprised. They didn't mention taxes either. So I can actually even look at my history here. I typed in like, well, I can't find it. But I literally typed in something like Bezos Miami taxes. And what I ended up here was your colleagues over at CBS Money News, Jeff Bezos to leave Seattle for Miami. And if you scroll down far enough, it says influx of billionaires is this is a sub headline in this article. And it says it comes months after the billionaire bought a couple of South Florida mansions. And then it says Washington State, where Bezos currently lives, recently passed a 7 percent tax on capital gains, which could cost him, according to the Department of Revenue, 70 million dollars for every one billion of stock he sells. Which, I mean, you know, again, I don't know if he's selling billions of dollars of stock, but that to me, just like the idea that a bunch of rich people are moving to Florida to avoid paying taxes, like doesn't shock me too much. So maybe I'm reading too much into this, but at least CBS gave me a little bit of cover on my theory.

Because I just took it to be Jeff Bezos greatly overestimates how much people know which one of his 20 homes he's at. In other words Don't sell your Seattle house Or wherever you have your home Just keep all of your I mean I assume he just lives in a helicopter That's circling the earth At all times and just being refueled By the tears of children You know what I mean I could never The idea that Jeff Bezos Considered himself a Washington State resident At all is total news to me I feel like he's just on a yacht somewhere Or he's just at one of his many, many, many mansions, or he's on a, not even a Learjet, he's on whatever, you know, a Blue Origin rocket ship just circling the earth. Like, the idea that he is a person who has a fixed residence and considers himself to have any kind of geographic connection to anywhere was, like, totally, like, silly to me as an idea.

I think that you have to declare something on your taxes about your about where you live. And I think that if he hadn't made the announcement, some reporter would have seen it eventually, because I'm sure people keep an eye on billionaires tax filings. And I'm sure that that would have been a story like it would have been worse if it's just right. Bezos, without mentioning anything, changes his residence to Miami, especially changes his residence to Florida. The company that he founded is very much associated with Washington State. He's not a native from here. Right. There's some story about him driving. No, I think he's from D.C. Yeah, I remember. Yeah. So anyway, I that's my theory. And I think that the fact that it's mentioned here in the CBS money piece, I think, is is worth noting. I'm sure that he was like, well, I'm going to make this change. But for him, I'm with you, like on a from a practical standpoint, I'm sure he's got homes. I mean, literally, there are places if he doesn't own them, I'm sure that he can stay all over the world in some of the most beautiful places. But I, you know, the fact that he's suddenly a Miami guy, I have a strong feeling has to do with taxes, not his lifestyle.

Well, I think you're I think you're right, actually. And I'm surprised more people haven't jumped on this because that's the only reason for him to put this statement out is, like you said, to potentially get in front of a different story, which is Bezos quietly changes his residence to Florida, which looks really shitty instead of like, I'm going to go live near my parents in Florida. but Seattle will always have a piece of my heart like that's and it's apparently is working because the Seattle Times write-up nothing and like you said even the stranger mention of it like although give it a week maybe you know there'll be some more reporting on the topic but it's it seems like it worked in terms of the the sort of image or the the narrative that that he wanted to present to the world it worked at least initially just not on you Andrew you gotta get up pretty early

to get over on old Walshki. I have a lot of, I came into this conversation biased. Kind of hot. Biased against Bezos, an alternate show.

This will be telling you about a great video Deshaun Watson recently posted. He'd be like, well, actually, let me, I've been doing some, I've been doing some of my own research on the topic. All right, let's enjoy a little music for your weekend before Andrew relaxes and I go right back into the salt mine of content creation. Sorry, buddy. I have a great friend. But the good news is, Andrew, I'm working hard, but I'm also I've made my.

myself a delicious lunch and I'm going to have a great dinner tonight and maybe a glass of wine just to kind of take the edge off and then be ready to do live wire tomorrow night oh you're

being serious no I'm being sarcastic I made a delicious lunch by pouring some flavoring into

my glass of water into my Brita all right so ask me what my music for my weekend is hey Andrew

what's your music for your weekend god I forgot to come up with anything today but let's see here No, I mentioned this on last week's Music for Your Weekend, that I've been really enjoying the first Talking Heads record called Talking Heads 77. You'll be surprised to hear that it came out in 1977. I like Talking Heads. I think most people, you know, even if you have glancing familiarity with them, you generally like them or some of their hit songs. I was kind of surprised when I went back and listened to this record that I hadn't done a deeper dive on their back catalog. Because this first record, it's like, it's good. I mean, the band is fully the talking heads here. It's not like their sound changed dramatically over the years. But the production is a little bit, just a tiny bit raw-er, if that's the right word, a little bit. You can tell that it's from 1977 as opposed to their later more polished stuff in the early 80s. And so I've been listening to this record over and over again. It has some really interesting themes to it, I think. you can really hear that um it's very much about a guy who's living in the city now and and on the brink of success and it's uh he brings up his family and friends a lot in this record in interesting ways I think um he has David Byrne I should say has talked I think in more recent years about being on the spectrum in some way I'm not exactly sure what language he uses so I want to be careful around that and not kind of like use words that he wouldn't attribute to himself but He's talked about that and something that he learned later on in his life. And I think it's really interesting. There's a song on here called No Compassion about how he doesn't have compassion for other people. And it's a struggle, but it's all done in the in the Talking Heads, you know, style of music. I am really, really, really head over heels over this first Talking Heads record. And today I'm going to play for you the final song off of it, which I had not heard until recently when I started listening to this. The final song is called Pulled Up, and it's a song about how somebody really helped him during times of need, and it sort of sounds like he's singing it to his parents, but apparently there's also an ongoing theory, and I'm not saying this is true, but an ongoing theory that this song is actually a ballad to cocaine. I don't know, but here it is. I'm listening. This song is called Pulled Up.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh I slipped and I got pulled, pulled up I tripped and then you pulled, you pulled me up I slipped and I got pulled, pulled up I slipped and then you pulled, you pulled me up Pull me up, pull me up Pull me up, pull me up

This is how the album ends, and what I like about it, we're only about a minute into a four-and-a-half-minute song, and he just gets more and more wild as it goes on. The vocals get more and more wild. I'm really obsessed with this record right now, like Soup to Nuts, and I just love the way it ends.

You know what's wild? I know that song from my childhood. Oh, really? had stored it away for 35 40 years almost and i totally know that song because i used to hang out with this kid named ollie when i was in probably like fourth or fifth grade and he was one of those kids that was like he had a um i guess maybe we'd call it a rat tail now or something and he his hair was blonde naturally i think his hair was very blonde he had this rat tail but the the rat tail was dyed purple and he was like, I think had a single mom or something. So he was kind of like a little ed, maybe edgier kid than I was, but had cooler tastes. And he had, he must've had, probably it was his mom's record, but we used to listen to that. Like right when I heard the, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

I was like, oh, yeah, that's probably the first Talking Heads song I ever even identified as. And the other thing he was really into was The Cars. So I just remember we used to listen to The Cars and we used to listen. I guess we probably listened to that record or maybe even a cassette tape of 1977. But like, anyway, sorry, not to sort of center myself in the story, but it's just weird to because if you would have said, do you know, I guess I'm looking it up now. I guess Psycho Killer is also off of that album. Psycho Killer is the only like really big hit off of that. If you said, like, do you know anything off of Talking Heads 77, I'd be like, absolutely not under any circumstances. But that song took me right back to being, like, in fourth grade, in fourth grade, hanging at Ollie's house.

Do you think that you know the other songs off that record, The Deep Cuts or just The Non-Psycho Killer? Or was it that song you think? It was that song. Interesting. Because it's not a hit. And, like, why would that, you know, there was something about that kid in fourth grade or fifth grade or whatever that is attracted to that song that me in 2023 as a 46-year-old and I'm also drawn towards.

And who knows if it was there was a mixtape that his mom made. Like, I don't even know the circumstances. I just know that when I heard that song, I'm like, Ollie, 1984 or 5 or whatever would have been when I was hearing it.

This album is great. I love how distinct the guitar is as opposed to I think things get a little bit more melded together in later production styles. And I don't know, Wasn't Brian Eno the producer for a lot of I don't know a lot about the Talking Heads I think Brian Eno might have produced a bunch of this Early stuff but

I really love Brian Eno I think this one it says The producer was somebody named Tony Bon Jovi Lance Quinn But I think that I definitely think of those Of Brian Eno and the Talking Heads being associated I wonder if maybe it was some of their later stuff Maybe he did make it

More of a mature sound as it went on Anyway that's really good That whole record, man, can't recognize it enough And listen to it a lot, you really start to hear themes sort of get pulled out into it

Well, I would like to really take us on a kind of different sort of emotional journey With My Music for Your Weekend Which is from a person who plays under the name Youth Lagoon His name's Trevor Powers And Youth Lagoon was kind of having, like back in the 20, I don't know, 2010s, 2015s i was vibing with some youth lagoon me and addie were pretty into the music and then i guess this the singer the singer and writer trevor powers just kind of retired the project because he just felt like he just i don't know he kind of was i think going through some some personal stuff and just kind of feeling like he didn't really know what he was doing anymore with this music and then i guess he had this something happen um a couple years ago where he got he He became really sick and the doctors gave him some medication, he was having stomach trouble and somehow the medication or what was going on with him kind of like reversed his digestive stuff so that he started having acid, sorry this is kind of pretty intense, but as a singer this is a really bad thing. He was basically having acid coming out of his stomach into his vocal cords so that he could barely speak and he could not sing. And he said he had to really just like reckon with this idea of like, am I ever going to sing again? Is this done for me? And his story is that when he finally kind of just released trying to control his future and his fate and if he was going to sing or not, that was a really big kind of emotional moment for him. But anyway, the thing that's grown out of all of this is this record, Heaven is a Junkyard, which I think came out this last summer.

Yes, I played Prizefighter off of this this spring, right? Oh, well, geez.

Sorry if I just repeated your entire story on the record.

No, no, no, because I didn't know any of that. And the thing is, I don't know why I know that song Prizefighter, but I'm seeing that it's off of this album that came out in 2023. I don't know anything. You said that you and Andy were listening to Youth Lagoon a long time ago. I don't know how I got introduced to Youth Lagoon. I didn't know that background, but I just know that I love that song. And Idaho Alien was another song that I was playing a lot off of this.

And what he said about Idaho Alien, I was reading some interviews with him, clearly. was that when he was recording it his voice still wasn't really back and they were intentionally recording it when his voice was not fully there as a sort of a production thing like like his voice was it wasn't like let's wait for your voice to be 100 it's like let's let's record what this is right now let's record where you are in your journey and his voice is really really striking on on idaho alien but uh so i i like that song i really like this is the first album off of our first song off the album it's called rabbit and i don't know if you're familiar with this particular track andrew but it's god i'm a sucker for like found audio of a kid talking and this has got it so can we hear a little bit of rabbit from uh youth lagoon

No one ever saw the house Through the bungees on the belt Only how they're staring out No one ever saw me out In the junkyard by myself Only how this really felt And no one ever saw real life In the television light, broken television one The devil's in a word of mouth When the cowboy learned to shout Right before he threw me out

Face to the floor, and there ain't no magic door Just a bully from the war in 1984 This is how we score with a face to the floor And there ain't no bedroom door Just a window where the store can be Why is that? Why are they doing that? And there's no photos there?

why will that forever work on me by the way yeah just like some kind of out of context audio with some kind of great music underneath it that will never never not have an impact on just like

slightly distorted like that yeah i remember like trying to recreate that kind of stuff in i had a lot of friends who are musicians in college and i have no musical talent whatsoever but i would like borrow their equipment i had like a four track that i borrowed i think from my friend john or something and like i had a guitar and i would just try to like recreate those type of vibes but the thing is like you need to be a musician in order to make music you can't just keep on tracking things over and over but i was such a sucker for like the mixing of sounds over things

I think the first time I ever heard something like that which was basically spoken word content but then somebody threw music underneath it was when I was in high school and entering my what I consider to be very very alternative phase and I was listening to KCMU exclusively which is now KEXP and they used to play real out there shit on that station like it's a it's an awesome station now and it does create so much great content and plays great music But it's definitely not the weirdness machine that it was like when I was in, say, 10th grade. And that, by the way, I don't mean that to be snarky, like it was better than it wasn't better than it's probably way better now. But every once in a while, you just hear some random shit. And like, I remember somebody on KCMU playing. It's like William Burroughs, the like the poet, I guess, the writer and legendary drug addict. It was like him talking and then somebody had just put music underneath it.

Is that the Nirvana one? Because Nirvana has a long, I actually have a CD that it's like, it's two tracks, and one of them is just an 18-minute track of Kurt Cobain noodling around noisily on a guitar while he reads a poem called The Priest.

It might have been, although, you know, I just was, maybe, I mean, I was wondering if, when in Nirvana's short but brilliant existence, do you think that came out? I'm just trying to place it in time from when I was in school.

I mean, it would have been, I mean, it wasn't a Nirvana thing. I think it was just a Cobain thing. Ah. That would have made sense. It would have been, let's see. Oh, here it is. I'm looking at it. The priest they called him. Will you play a little bit of this? Let me see if I can. I was just reading the Wikipedia. Let me see if I can find this.

Because what I, you know me, Andrew, there's nothing I like less than Jangle. Well, that's not true. I like it in certain parts of payment songs, but like, what my memory of this was that I bet you this had to be the same thing I mean how many people were putting music Under William Burroughs in the Early 90s like this has got to be And getting played on KCMU this would have to be Off of the same project

The thing is I have a feeling My memory of this I have not heard this In decades I'm wrong it's a 9 minute Piece not an 18 minute piece But I'm excited to see this album cover again I literally I believe I have this CD which blows my mind It's Burroughs right? It's William S. Burroughs and Kurt Cobain and you're going to hate this if i recall like based on what i remember of this it seems like

okay and i don't think it's i i feel like i had i looked up the cd or i may have like found it in the because i was also shortly thereafter i had weaseled my way into kcmu where i began to steal various c

over time which is why you didn't hear wilco am between the years 1992 and 1997 on that station but um i i have a picture in my mind of the cd cover and i don't remember kurt cobain being on

it but no the album doesn't have either it's got some made it's got it might be burroughs but it's like him bent over it's just some arty photo of somebody in a black robe and a hat okay i don't know if that rings a bell let's take a listen the only thing that that's why i think that maybe you might have heard a different mix because if i recall this is pretty noisy and it doesn't seem like the type of thing that you would find a happiness in but i could be wrong it's been a long time this is what college sounded like to me by the way if it wasn't lee rinaldo it was the what a music for your weekend i brought youth lagoon into the mix i should have this should have been my music for your weekend the priest they called here that was me that wasn't burrows that was definitely this was a

not this yeah the thing that i the thing that i heard was much more along the lines of remember that like wear sunscreen thing that baz lerman made yeah that was a lot more i mean the thing

was it was burrow's poetry so it had a seriousness folks christmas eve an old junkie selling christmas seals on north park street the priest they called him he's playing silent night in the background this is the type of shit that i mean this lit up like if you could see it like a scan of my brain

back in the 90s when i heard something like this it just lit up every single segment of my brain and i listen to it now i found an old sonic youth record that i listened to that was like taped in that was I believe taped in Japan or something that is just somebody screaming the word no over and over and over again with similar kind of music only a full band and that's like this is the kind of stuff I was like there's a whole world out there and I listen to it now and I'm just like what did my brain look like back then why why was that what I was chilling to

right and kind of like I mean I don't want to I don't want to sound like I'm I'm trying to analyze you or analyze anyone who likes any particular thing but it i mean i'm my problem is i'm just a very basic b with a very pollyanna-ish brain a lot of the time when it comes to the music that i consume but like that sounds to me like an attraction to that music seems to me like a brain that's looking to work some stuff out but you worked it out i mean not to the point that you don't hate yourself every day but to the point where like you're not in a basement i think think because i just listened to this heavyweight about jonathan goldstein's friend that kind of never got out of the phase of of of whatever you want to call it kind of like again it sounds like i'm being really judgy about somebody wants to listen to um how would you describe that that

sound just like it's noisy but i would yeah but i i do it does feel a little like like i am definitely i have changed like i'm probably not going to put that on tonight and enjoy it but i don't like the implication that somebody who still does like it right that there's something that they haven't worked out or that they're totally fixed that's why i kind of stopped myself i think i was just excited about hearing stuff and i was the same way with movies you know and

and films yes andrew please use that but listen i'm a member of the criterion collection okay

i understand i wouldn't belong to any criterion collection that would have me as a member um but uh no i mean i do think that uh there was something about you're exposed to pop culture and there's certain things that all kind of can not sound the same or be the same, but there's certain, especially, I think, especially with movies, like there's certain, what's the word I'm looking for, patterns or whatever. Tropes. And it all just sort of, you know how it's going to end and whatever. And so when you hear somebody that's really trying to do something different, you're like, this is like nothing I've ever heard before. I think, and the sense of discovery, I think, is a big part of it.

See, I'm, in a way, I'm kind of envious of, or I'm admiring of that because that's just never how my brain has been in terms of like when you say it that way it totally makes sense it's like we've all heard pretty much everything that's out there what about something that you've never heard before that should be like intriguing that's also by the way the way addy listens to music like she listens to music like a job like she's like if she's listening to something and she's not immediately just like lighting up every center of her pleasure part of her brain she's like yeah but what is there about this that i can find out about and like i admire that kind of approach to things because i'm just kind of like oh am i tapping my toes no okay on to the next thing you know i wish that i wish that i was a little and that goes for that goes for phil

that although on on Monday if we have time although usually Mondays are jam packed for us I do want to tell you about that movie Streetwise like I finally got the DVD player out of the box and working again when you're not drinking or eating if you're me you got a lot of time on your hands and you do things like get the DVD player out of the box and finally watch this movie which is pretty phenomenal but anyway um let's get to our listener suggestion

for the music for your weekend by the way can i just say though so we did not solve the mystery though you heard a different burroughs thing i had a different burroughs which if i have have the

thought this weekend i'll try to look up i mean i was just googling william burroughs set to music and i wasn't getting anything that immediately it definitely wasn't that but it was something that the music was a lot more kind of melodic melodic i guess so that it and i guess my point the whole start of that dumb observation by me i wouldn't even call it a story was when i heard that thing on kcmu of a person talking what i could tell was that william burroughs did not go into um did not go into a studio and talk over this music like he had recorded a poem and then someone had taken music that had presumably not been recorded to be with the poem and combined them and that like i guess you could say juxtaposition or whatever it blew my mind that that you could do that. And then I was always into stuff like that. Like I was really obsessed with, there was a Sublime record that I think was called Robin in the Hood. And it was, I don't think it had any big hits on it. I do think it had a very young Gwen Stefani doing a song with them called I Saw Red. But what I was obsessed with was they had, and again, this almost gets back to the Tim and Eric thing. Like, I don't know if this was actually sort of taking advantage of someone for your kind of to create entertainment in a way that the person wasn't fully able to sign off on. But there was a guy in their neighborhood named Raleigh Theodore Sakers, who my guess is was dealing with a lot of mental health stuff. And they would just record him telling these stories and they would record him. He was living in a group home and he would be getting into it with the people that worked at the group home. and they recorded all this audio of him or somebody did and then they just put it over this kind of droning music and it'd be these like 15 minute songs of just this guy raleigh just saying stuff that was you know pretty nonsensical but something about that kind of found not even found audio but that kind of like documentary style audio with music underneath it i was just like it was clear that there was something about that sound that combination of things that really like was big in my brain and has never stopped being big in my brain to the point where in that youth lagoon song when you just hear that kid asking about why they're over there where there's no road and i'm just like i could listen to an hour of that kid set over that music well and i

know that we do we're going very long here and i'm sorry to keep extending this and maybe this is something that we can talk about another time but what i'm holding here in my hands are three mini cassette tapes that my friend polly just gave me um when i saw him at the breeder show So Paul and I went to the same high school. He was a year older than me, but we've remained friends ever since. And he moved to Seattle in the past several years. So that's been kind of fun to reconnect with him and go to shows and baseball games and what have you. But these cassette tapes that he gave me, again, these are mini cassettes, are from the days when he and I would, cool guys that we are, walk around with little dictaphones, those little tiny tape recorders. And we would record all kinds of things. One time I handed it around a crowded bar called Bukowski's in Boston and told people that we were giving messages to some made up couple that was getting married and people like drunk, like 20 year olds were like who I'd never met were passing this thing around. And I got the tape back with all these drunk people giving advice for weddings and marriage. And anyway, these two tapes that Paulie gave me, one says February 01, Paul's birthday, and another one says Genevieve's birthday, and another one says Night Out to Yee Village, which was a place we used to go to. It was like a Chinese restaurant where we'd go and get those super strong zombie drinks, and he wants me to digitize these things and figure out what the hell is on them from a couple of decades ago.

I would absolutely love to hear 20-year-old Andrew Walsh and Pauly and Veeves and whoever talking into that microphone.

His wife, Catherine, did say at the Breeder Show, as Pauly gave these to me, she said, now I would like to keep these private until we have a chance to listen to them. And I said, of course, like what else would I do? I.e. don't put them on TBTL. I literally didn't know what she was talking about. And I said, yeah, of course. What am I going to do? Like play it for people? She said, you have a podcast where you do stuff like that. And I said, touche. And now here I am, like, so close to playing. I don't have a recorder with me. Oh, my gosh. No, that's... I need to get Catherine to sign off. Watch out, heavyweight. Yeah.

Watch out, Found Magazine.

So anyway, sorry about that. I know that that was a longer story than I intended.

No, I'm so glad you mentioned that because, I mean, if you're comfortable and the other people who you can get consent from are still into it, playing it, I'm totally fascinated by that. I would love to hear that.

One thing I know I can play for you that I will have to dig up because I did digitize it a long time ago, and I probably added music to it, but this, again, would have been about 20 years ago, was the tape of a bunch of drunk people at a bar giving wedding advice. You can even hear me accidentally call the couple the wrong name the second time around, and everybody was too drunk to notice that I was totally lying to them. That I can play for you if I can find it on an old hard drive somewhere. But for now—

See, again, I feel like I didn't do anything that—I mean, it's very mildly subversive, and it's absolutely not going to harm anyone. It's just like a fun thing to do, but I just didn't even have that kind of level of comedy in my brain. You know, I thought of myself as a funny person, but the kind of comedy I would have been doing in my brain and externally at 20 would have been doing going to an open mic night and doing jokes about, you know, whatever, just like a very hacky, obvious stand up comedy joke. Whereas you and your friends were going around doing kind of like a, you know, a fairly high concept, like, hey, can you give this advice to these people who are getting married? Because you're going to get an earnest response from people to a thing that's not even really happening, which is kind of interesting and illuminating on its own. That's a much more evolved brand of comedy than I was dealing with.

You're giving this a lot of credit. This was, I had a dictaphone that I loved and I love toys, but I never knew what to do with it. That actually goes back to my frustration is like I always wanted to mix things and I wanted audio. but i could never create the original audio because i wasn't a musician you know what i mean so i think this was just me being drunk and being like lying to somebody not really thinking

it all the way through well i've perfected that yeah i turned that into an art i would go to a

bar and lie about my romantic conquest a whole variety of things andrew yes exactly hey our

listener suggestion this week comes from listener justice in thunder bay now that's that's a lot that sounds like we've got we've got we're halfway to something in the mcu justice is in thunder bay amen and says i nominate glitter by daisy the great i was in home depot the other day the advantage of canadian home depots is there are very few punisher style american flag t-shirts around god that sounds like heaven yeah justice as a as one of the most frequent of flyers of the home depot these days uh getting to go into a home depot that wasn't just full of people literally packing heat would be would be pretty pretty great uh there was a very catchy song playing on the pa shazam revealed it to be a song called record player by daisy the great when i went to add it to my apple music library i found it was already there despite not recognizing it usually when this happens it's because i heard it on tbtl so in case record player was already played previously i'm nominating another super catchy song from the same album glitter honestly the whole album All you need is time is full of bangers signed justice in Thunder Bay. Now I don't remember glitter by Daisy the great. Do you know?

And I looked at, I looked it up. You've got records. You've got seats. Cause for most of the existence of the TBTL newsletter, I have listed the music for your weekends, which means I can usually find it pretty easily in my Gmail. I didn't find anything by Daisy the great. And it also doesn't ring any bells, but I will say this to spoil this for myself, I guess I did listen to the song and I watched the music video this morning and I'm I'm pretty enamored with it oh good that's good um did you listen to this yet do you know I have not here it's pretty I think it's pretty good yeah and again the video is very charming okay excellent

so that's we're going to go out with glitter by daisy the great suggested by listener justice and thunder babe uh that uh will wrap up this week of broadcasting thank you everyone for spending the time with us we'll be back here on monday maybe I'll see some of you tomorrow night at Livewire, please come down. In the meantime, have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves. Go Seahawks. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Yeah, loud, loud, at an old bowl of cereal. I'll clean up if anyone wants. Took down all the paintings, hung up on the wall.

My room is so much better off if I don't get involved. I neglected my plans to prove I would. Should have let the sun in, would have done us good. I paint my face with glitter in the morning light I have been up all night I have been up all night I paint my face with glitter in the morning light I have been up all night I have been up all night I'm just rotten to the core Such a bore, such a wannabe Dressin' for the thrill like a pill It's an Armagasino

I'm not a threat, guess I'm not a threat, right time lunatic, the milk is turning sour, but I'd rather go dancing, with a woman in the mirror, with a woman in the mirror, this has been, um, not fun, but, you know, it happened, power out.