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You're watching Sunrise 7. It's 6.43 as Sunrise 7 continues. He's an award-winning and master yo-yoist, and he's from right here in our area.

But he has more than fun tricks. Boy, oh boy, we're going to submit this one for an Emmy. But he has more fun tricks that are more than just about yo-yos. Amy Fluxop, rescue me. Take it away from me this morning. Good morning again, Amy.

Rescuing you, I don't think it's even possible this morning, Jeff. I don't know, I'll do my best, though. Kenny Strasser, who is actually from Anagot, and as we said, he is a master yo-yo list. And you've competed in a lot of different competitions. Tell us a little bit about how you got started to be a yo-yo master.

Honestly, I am just a 35-year-old kid at heart, you know, twice divorced. I have no kids. I don't have a girlfriend, don't want one. You know, it takes a lot of practice. My parents live in Denver. They just got divorced. My dad is now in Oshkosh. And honestly, I'm just going all around. I have a brother in Portland who I don't get along with very well because of his wife. And I'm not going to go. My dad. Hi.

We're dealing with some issues this morning. So we will actually just head that back to Jeff and Bob and we'll be joining you a bit more with some of these yo-yo tricks coming up in just a bit.

Bye, Dad. T-V-T-L

Gaspacho soup just burned my lips

The gazpacho? Yeah, it's been sitting out, it warmed up It warmed up so much that it burned your lip Let me explain something to you If you're expecting something ice cold And you bring it up to your lips and it's room temp It's going to feel like your mouth's on fire It's going to feel like your body's on fire

Don't bully me, all right? I can't take it. I was cyber-bullied within an inch of my life last night. I don't even know what that means.

No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. We've established that you don't have any journalistic integrity, but what would it cost to buy you something?

TBTL!

Well, all right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

You've got to eat that microphone.

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it's kind of a bit of a gray day, but I've got to tell you, the fall colors are out, and they are absolutely Becca.

Oh, Ma, Pa, it's just beautiful.

I think I just invented a new word, bektacular. It's also my nickname for my girlfriend. The fall colors are really spectacular today here on this Thursday. We made it, everyone. We made it to episode 4072 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

And I saw an interesting article in the New York Times. Headline, Gen Alpha is here. Can you understand their slang? The words mean nothing. And I want to run some of these words by my good friend Andrew Walsh and see if, you know, if he if he is or is not still one of the foremost Rizzlers in Seattle. We're going to find out together coming up. Also, how do you steal and maybe more importantly, why do you steal two hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of rare Japanese Kit Kats?

I love candy for dinner. What about you?

The wild story of this new kind of version of theft that's going on actually pretty frequently in the supply chain. We'll talk about that. Oh, and it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day, so we'll do some Blur's Day messages as well. And we'll talk to this guy, number one co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. They just want you to be normal, and clearly you're not. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Sometimes Genevieve and I just yell at each other. I like candy for dinner. How about you? Nick Kroll, ladies and gentlemen. Do you ever do breakfast for dinner? Oh, um, sure. Not, well, sure. Yeah, yeah. I'll make up. If there's not a lot in the fridge, I will very happily make up some eggs and sausage late at night.

I gotta tell you something. Bacon is good for me.

I've never been a big bacon person, and it's not a rejection of the oversaturation of bacon culture that we all live through during what I consider to be the lowest cultural moment of modern American history, the early 2000s. I just like sausage more. Bacon is just...

I think it's too thin for this gluttonous guy. I don't know what it is. I've never heard that criticism of bacon. I know, it's just not as satisfying. You know, the problem with bacon is it's not, I'm not filling my entire mouth up with it. Yeah, exactly. There's not enough thickness. I mean, you could get the thick cut, I guess.

I can talk around it too easily. No, I don't know. Like, yeah, I guess I find it. I can barely feel it lodging in my aorta. I mean, the bigger question for me, if I'm at an IHOP or, you know, something like that, and there's a whole bunch of different types of breakfast meat options, is like what shape of sausage to get. Are you going with the patty? Are you going with the link? I feel like there's others.

Things of that nature. The fake sausage in Crab Rangoon, the fake sausage industry, I think, has come a long way. It's one of the ones that's actually pretty deece.

Especially, yeah, especially if you get the little patties. Do you ever get those?

Those are definitely good. I even the little they've got little fake, you know, like links that are because because actual sausage at this point, if you go buy it, you know, from the frozen part of the grocery store is already it's already so uncanny and so beyond having ever been. It's so full of sodium and other things. You know what I mean? Like that. It's almost like a made up food anyway, like a completely fully processed food to the degree that you can then you can make a knockoff of it. That's pretty effective.

Yeah, I agree with you. I've had some pretty decent breakfast, you know, like vegetarian breakfast sausages. I think we keep some Morningstar little patties in the freezer for a quick, I was going to say snack, but, you know, quick meal, I suppose. You know, speaking of the grocery store, there's something that has been, and I know that we have listeners who work in the grocery industry, and I'm wondering if they want to get at me with an answer. Something has been dogging me a little bit. Are you ever at the grocery store, Luke, and you see them, I don't know, just some employee maybe restocking like a refrigerated section or something, and they have these big carts, right? Like kind of like shop carts or something that they pull around. There's product on them, and they're restocking, let's say, the refrigerated section. But sometimes those carts say, and a big sign, day use only. You ever notice that? No. Some of these carts are for day use only. And I'm always curious why that's such a big deal. Like, what happens if you use a day cart at night? Night cart. Night cart. What if that was a less successful NBC sitcom? Yeah. Even if you've never seen it, it's old to you. I can still hum the night cart theme to this day. That's interesting.

I don't think I've noted that. But see, what I now just noticed in the grocery store a lot more, even out here, kind of in the rurals where I am, is half of the people in the grocery store have the jobs where they're just getting groceries for other people like they're either you know um they're they're either they work for the store but their job is to just like get gross because you know all the stores have their own apps now yeah where you can order your groceries you can go pick them up and have them ready to go and so you know safeway's got their whole own system for that so it's just a bunch of people invests walking around with these big carts getting everyone's groceries together for them which is kind of in a way ironic because it brings us back to what i understand the origins of the grocery store to be and i know this came up a while ago because i was talking about that little mercantile or mercantile that's down the hill from me and how i found a bunch of receipts for that store in the wall of my house when we were doing some renovating and how in the earlier days of the original days of the grocery store as far as i understand it from listening to one One episode of, no, not 99% Invisible, but the Anthropocene Reviewed, the really, really great John Green podcast. Is it John Green or Hank Green? They're brothers, and I always mix up which one I'm thinking of.

I'll tell you what. They do a promo swap with us. We'll get it right. For now, this is a freebie, and there's going to be a little looseness.

Right. So, thank you for, thanks for reminding me that we need to do another promo swap with our friend Nora. Oh, that's right. Today or tomorrow. Today is today. Yeah, sure. Yeah. But anyway, so there was this episode of the Anthropocene Review that I listened to about the Piggly Wiggly and the origins of Piggly Wiggly and how it was one of the first kind of grocery stores where you went and got your own stuff because the way it had worked is you would go in. I know again, I know we literally just talked about this, but this idea that we're getting back to that in a way that like now more and more people just drive up to the grocery store and then someone just brings them all the stuff that they ordered. It's like full circle.

Yeah it's not for me because I like doing my own shopping It's a real pleasure for me as we know I don't know if I've mentioned this to you on the show before I think I've told you before that I have sort of a fantasy of Someday doing stand up comedy As like a really old man So old that people wouldn't dare not laugh at me You know

Do you consider yourself like a future improv

improviser have you seen that commercial i don't think so it's for i forget the product but it's basically like a guy who is going to be an improvise like he's going to be the hit of the local improvisation scene when he's like 75 but right now he's only 55 and there's something so they do this thing where they like age the guy with makeup and stuff and i forget i forget what it is he's doing now to prepare for when he's the improv hit of his local town but it just something like a really interesting and kind of weird I mean uh weird premise for a commercial

yeah and also weirdly similar to something that I've talked about a lot because I have this like little part of me that thinks or is just curious what it'd be like to do stand-up but I don't have the um I really do not have the nerve to do it and um and so I just always think oh someday I'll be like a cute little old man I don't know why I get little I don't think I'm really gonna be a little person at any point i'm kind of a i have a large frame but anyway um that that's sort of my my fantasy just like fantasy is a strong word but it sort of lives in the back of my head and that has sort of morphed into me doing a full stand-up set that is 100 based on grocery store observations did you know this did you know this have i told you this about me i don't think i knew this yeah i think that i could probably do now now you know now that i say that loud since i'm not going to ever do this anyway let's dream big let's just say i want my own one hour hbo special andrew walsh talks grocery stores it's all grocery store observations i don't have a joke around this one but there's something about the way and this might just be me but even the way i kind of communicate to the other people around me in grocery stores like a i have this apologetic way of of like of talking to people like oh excuse me like and and how people will sometimes put their cart now i'm just getting into complaint territory but one thing that really drives me crazy is when somebody will put their cart on one side of the aisle and then stand in front of their cart like basically blocking the entire aisle while they're choosing their beans and i'm just like there is such a better way of doing this anyway i have a lot of grocery store observations as my point

well see that's what's interesting to me is that you both love the grocery store but as we've established it's also a place that's really a minefield for you of of kind of other humans not being thoughtful so i could see it being both a kind of a mildly annoying but also fun

experience well you go to the grocery store more than anyone that i know yeah no i mean i can get a little nitpicky about some people like kind of not having um you know situational awareness of the grocery store and i'm always a little judgmental about that type of thing in society anyway but like that's the difference to me between like just going to the grocery store and going to a place like costco where it's just like it's so it's just costco is so big and overwhelming and just filled with people that just like literally if they had an ounce of situational awareness before they walked in the door I swear they checked it at some point coming through the door it's like people somehow become worse they're like they they take up more space also the the carts are huge and I guess they have to be nobody's going to Costco like I'm the only person who'll go to Costco and buy like two things like that's actually a funny game that I like to

play which is like who made the worst decision coming here and and that is defined by you're getting one thing and you're not even getting a large amount of it you're just getting like a standard thing of like four sticks of butter yeah like and you know just like scan the line and be like somebody here is just holding one item like what brought them here what what series of

decisions got them here holding that butter why is andrew in line holding nothing but a baguette how is that how is that possible and also why is he wearing that french hat speaking of

situational awareness you told me about this Andrew I actually have been a little slacking on my emails lately but there are a lot of people that are trying to inform me that in fact the movie Streetwise that I'm so obsessed with currently the documentary shot in Seattle in the 80s which I went to the lengths of buying a DVD slash blu-ray player and then buying the DVD from the criterion collection and then hooking it all up and watching it is actually just

streaming on youtube yeah a million people have emailed me i think the people are a little bit uh maybe hesitant to email you because you did go through all of that and they didn't want to i don't know burst your bubble or hurt your feelings uh because it turns out youtube is streaming for free i don't know if it's an official upload by criterion i'm i'm guessing not but somebody took the time to upload it and it hasn't been pulled down and obviously a lot of people have found the link and sent it in but the thing is um and listen I would love to take the piss like any chance I have to really just I mean just humiliate you on the show I will absolutely do it but I do think and you tell me if I'm wrong one of the reasons why I didn't bring it up with you is because I also feel like the process you went through to watch this movie to reconnect with a movie that meant so much to you a long time ago, the sort of intentionality that you had to go through to find it on a physical medium and then find something that will play it and then also the the um the fact that you have the director's uh cut or not the director's cut I'm sorry the commentary available to you which wouldn't be available on YouTube I just sort of feel like all of that was sort of special and part of your process and if you were able to just like click it on YouTube it might not have been as special for you after all so I'm sort of glad I don't know I'm personally glad that you didn't know that it was on youtube and for once not in a cruel way for once yeah me

too for all the reasons that you just said like i when i finally and i mean i had the like the dvd player in the box and the and the dvd or whatever it is blu-ray sitting for like a few months and then when i finally like took the time to take it all out of the box hook it up set up the dvd player and like which by the way is a whole experience that you just forgotten about like chapters and just like all the things around a dvd menu screen and kind of like some little like trailer for the movie kind of playing while you're deciding the various you know which at the time seems so futuristic you're like you can just go to any part of this you know like you can put subtitles on and off it's all this stuff that's now pretty much built in to most of the viewing experience but i just remember it's seeming quite futuristic at the time just the whole experience when I sat down in the one room in my house that has sort of functioning heat my little my little shelter from the storm and I was and I you know was watching streetwise I was very happy that this is how I was experiencing it because the other thing and this is where I am I'm really an old and I'm much older than you in this way Andrew which is I still am not somebody who thinks of YouTube as something that I can integrate with my television viewing experience like to me YouTube is something that lives on my laptop and if I need to grab a clip or maybe see something you know I'm trying to find something it's on YouTube I'll watch it on YouTube I never think of YouTube as a platform that at eight o'clock at night I would like turn on on my TV

oh I did this two nights ago with Genevieve when we watched oh god the George Burns film because I do have YouTube just as an app on my TV along with Hulu and HBO and all the other ones and so my tv when you when you turn it on it shows you sort of a menu screen where you can choose an app but it also just suggests all kinds of content to you from across the spectrum of your apps right and so sometimes a movie you don't even realize it you're like oh yeah i do want to watch oh god with with john denver um and and uh i almost said burt reynolds that would be a different movie um burns george george burns um and so i was like oh yeah i'll watch this and then it's like oh you're watching it on youtube you're like okay and i don't pay for youtube i don't pay for like youtube premium does that mean there's a bunch of commercials yeah and it's awful it is the worst because they are not inserted in any kind of thoughtful way i mean a character will be mid sentence and all of a sudden a commercial will just cut through at like 50 decibels louder than the content you're watching and everybody jumps all the cats me genevieve we're all jumping out

of our seats looking for the remote control just kind of hang out at your house those yeah some of those guys from the swing dance club that just come and mill about in your basement they do that

a lot um they're gonna snap their fingers god they're cool god they're hep anyway yeah so uh yeah it is not the per it's not a seamless viewing experience i'm sure that if you buy premium and you treat it like it's like a a hulu or something i'm sure it's more seamless i don't want to sound

like defensive because i well first of all i want to say um i'm surprised that the seo did not return that information to me in the first place because literally this whole journey started with me going me seeing somebody on tiktok mentioning that the that streetwise was one of their top 10 documentaries i'd ever seen and it reminded me of this movie from my youth and then i immediately just went like where is it streaming and i was in some i was pretty far down into some like you know forums and subreddits and at no time did anyone say in any of those places it's over on youtube but i'm with you i'm actually very glad that i didn't know about that because and what i would say to people who uh are intrigued by all the talk i've been giving this thing and they might look maybe don't watch it on youtube i don't know i'm not trying to tell you how to live your life but like the idea or or watch it on youtube premium because the movie is emotionally very

impactful i mean it's real oh yeah i'm for what it's worth i'm guessing that streetwise doesn't have those commercials inserted it's the official stuff that youtube is sort of offering up like oh god was like an official release you know because kids are clamoring to see that my i i don't i don't think i could be wrong about this but i don't what is the venn diagram overlap of people

who know what youtube is and people who wanted to see the movie oh god starring george burns and john denver i think it's got to be you and vives and you know what's weird is well not weird i

guess this is the algorithm last night i'm just realizing we turned I'm sorry. on the movie um defending your life with al by al brooks by albert brooks and uh that's another movie about like kind of quote-unquote modern religion or or or my people in the modern world dealing with religion if you consider 1907 to be the modern world i guess um there i don't know if that is a quick if i'm going through something where i'm trying to um discover my place in this

planet are you having an existential crisis we need to talk about right or is it just like once

you click oh god you're like in the algorithm but uh yeah um so i'm sorry i interrupted i just that just occurred to me the connection between those two films but it's weird because i mean

youtube is where now i mean so many people get all their music off of youtube now so many people watch most of the stuff that they watch or at least a lot of it on youtube like it's it's a legitimate platform and there's you know like yeah ways to pay a little more so that you get the more premium service, but I don't know why it will always feel to me just like a place where I go to see viral videos, which is funny, because it's not even where I go to see viral videos anymore. But when YouTube first sort of became big in my life, it was when I was doing the Bryant Park Project in New York. And we, of course, we're all also, everyone's trying to go viral all the time, right? Like your bosses are going, have you guys ever considered going viral? It's like, yes, we have considered doing something that has a massively wide appeal and reach. We just haven't figured out what that is. And we never would. But I just remember YouTube being this place where you'd find like a clip of some old people from the seventies dancing, but it was over the music of Walk It Out. So it'd be like a modern hip hop song, but people from the like eighties dancing. And the fact that the moves seem to line up well with the music just blew all of our minds. That's what I think of YouTube as providing me. Videos where people are very from a long time ago, but they're dancing to music that's more recent.

Do you think of it as the world's biggest podcasting platform? Because I believe it's also that. I'm sure it is. Or at least it was at one point. I don't know if Apple has reclaimed that throne. Oh, I bet you anything it is.

I mean, we've got to be one of the last podcasts going that isn't mostly video now. And I mean, thankfully for the viewers, the would-be viewers, they don't have to see our faces. But, like, I mean, it's just crazy the idea that, to me anyway, that, like, most of the popular podcasts are a visual experience. And they are, you know, they're two minute long clips of Two Bears, One Cave or Nelk Boys or Friday Beers or whatever, just like endless number of shows, mostly with guys of a certain age sitting around talking into this exact Shure SM7B microphone I'm using and, you know, racking up the views.

yeah i was thinking about that yesterday when we were playing long chunks of saturday night live videos i was like we would never we wouldn't survive like five minutes on youtube before they pulled us down because they have all those bots and everything that are identifying content

like that oh really like so we couldn't play that's see i didn't realize i wasn't trying to get us in trouble i i thought music was one thing but i thought we could play like comedy bits and

comment on them i mean i'm sure that there's maybe a certain amount you could play or something but you know you would you say five solid minutes right exactly and i'm playing the entire frankly i don't want to live in like i don't i don't want to change what we do on tbtl so that we can get on youtube like i just right you first of all i'm like really mad at google like i feel like i'm just like really mad at google these days for like a whole bunch of different reasons like some that are i think fair some that i have to admit are completely unfair but like i i'm really mad at gmail a while back like making me delete tons of emails because all of a sudden they changed something in their algorithm that said you can only have so much space now and they were trying to like get us to buy some more space from from youtube i'm sorry from from google it's all the same brand um so that was one thing and also now this isn't really fair but i have an ad blocker on my computer strictly so that I can play YouTube videos on the fly during this show, and I've used it for years so that, like, if you mention something, I should be able to dial up a YouTube video and play it quickly, but if there's two ads in front of it, that can sort of stall out the show. And I'm the one who likes to stall out the show, goddammit. So I don't know if I bought or just got a free YouTube blocker or ad blocker for that exact reason, and now YouTube has gotten smart about it, and it's like, no, no, you need to turn that thing off.

So I don't have that. Can we pay for premium? Could it come out of the TBTB budget?

Yeah, we could. This is all solvable. But you know me like I've got this.

I'm not saying that sarcastically. I don't know how this works.

I'm taking that tone and not at you, but at myself, because this is what I've been lately. Like I'm just like reluctant to just like kind of fork over more money, like especially when it sort of feels like they're holding me over a barrel. Now, the thing is, I can't justify given it's it's hypocritical of me to.

complain about an ad blocker not working on YouTube like I actually don't have an issue with people putting content out there that I can get for free but having to watch an ad or see an ad for it like I don't use this ad blocker for anything else like newspaper articles or whatever I only did it for the production reasons of us being able to play YouTube stuff on our podcast without it stalling out the show and so um and it's just one of those things it's like now they're like oh they're now youtube or google has sort of figured out these ad blockers and i was actually reading reddit forums about it because they're cracking down and everything and uh yeah the right thing for me to do would be just to pay for a youtube premium subscription but i'm kind of like yeah but they're forcing it you know whereas if youtube came out today and it was a brand new service and i'd be like wow there's a lot of good stuff there sure i'll fork over some money like i don't know it's just like such a huge company and it just sort of feels manipulative but i can't but it feels that way i'm not saying that it's right by the way i know what you mean though it

feels like we are are animals and that they've just been i remember going uh on this trip uh actually brought addy on it out to the channel islands off of um kind of southern california with these crazy new zealand pig hunters and they were basically trying to round up these these sort of feral pigs on this island because the feral pigs were endangering some of the other wildlife on the island including a protected eagle and they would just kind of like set up these traps where it was like the pigs didn't even realize they were walking into this area where they were eventually going to just be like ensnared and i mean not literally ensnared but trapped where they couldn't get out and then they're not to be gruesome here so if you're you know an animal lover uh sorry but they would then you know they would they would kill the these pigs either through shooting them or electrocuting them. But it feels like sometimes with things like Google that they've just been like, I didn't even realize I was wandering into something where now I'm just totally trapped because it's so many different parts of my digital life. And it wants to like, it always, every time I Google something on my phone, it wants me to just log into whatever Gmail account it thinks I have, which is like 45 Gmail accounts because it just wants to be fully like vertically integrated in every aspect of my life. It wants, I have one of those Nest cameras or whatever on my house. It wants that to be talking to my email and my phone and my purchasing and it just wants every part of my life to be, and the thing is the more of our lives that we give over to these things, the more then we just end up continuing the process. So something about when I try to Google something on my phone and Google's like, do you want to sign in? I'm like, fuck no. I'm just trying to find out how to roast an artichoke. Like, I don't want to integrate this to my gmail life guys please just let me let me let me be you yell you just are to choked

roasted that's exactly right so you don't need google i'm your i'm your google now i'll tell you the thing that and also i was complaining i was hilariously complaining earlier on this the hilarious world of complaining yeah um that google just the the search algorithm really sucks now i think they're trying to keep you on the results page instead of you just like clicking through. So it used to say, you know, how do I roast an artichoke? And then it would take you to various websites that would tell you how to do it. Now Google's trying to keep you on the site. So they're using AI to just like create the recipes for you right there on the Google page, which is pushing all of the results down. Like I couldn't get scores. I couldn't get NFL scores on Google the other day. It was like getting harder and harder to find the most basic information. So that sucks. That's another reason I'm just listing all the reasons I'm at at Google. and then the the one that's really got me irritated is this thing that they're doing now where they're automating ads on the front of our tbtl videos and like we're not getting any money for that and i think it might be because we reached the 1000 follower mark which is cool by the way we're just getting too popular for our own good popular but like you know we talk a lot on the show about how we're listener supported and right now we are exclusively listener supported and um you know if we start taking on some advertisers on this show or in any of the content we do if we enter any kind of partnerships or anything like we're gonna do that very thoughtfully you and i and john sklaroff and we're gonna you know what i mean we're gonna yeah we want to tread those waters carefully um because of all the support that our listeners uh show us and give us and i really hate the fact that if you go to watch a hey dummies video you have to like kind of like sit through 15 seconds of just some random bullshit and like we don't get any money for that I and I went to their blog I went went to the google blog it's blog.google.com I think and uh I'm like reading like why are there I looked up why are there ads on my on my videos and it's like well you can join the partner program and and make some money and then if you're seeing ads on your videos.

and you haven't done that it's because we just put them there just like wow that's not a that's

not an answer that doesn't seem right i doesn't doesn't help that they're all ads for hymns i feel like that's something and something in the algorithm knows a little bit too much

i i do feel like i was trying to think of an example because i haven't seen a bunch of them i'm only seeing them now because my ad blockers stopped working the thing is i wasn't sure if they'd always been there or not um but they are for like i feel like natural gas or something that at least not natural gas no i'm sorry i i think natural gas i think it's for unnatural gas which is honestly i love that christmas album unnatural gas um but uh no i thought it was for some sort of a local utility or something that isn't like totally terrible i'm sorry i said natural gas it's for something i felt like it was for maybe even the opposite like green energy or

some sort of local utility solar i feel like there's a lot of those ads bumping around that They're like trying to tell people that if they go green with their like, you know, home, if they put, it's like a person standing with like a hard hat saying, you can save money on whatever, something to do with your house, which I assume is probably not the, what it's being cracked up to be. Yeah. The last thing I'll say on technology, that's kind of funny is, so this DVD player I bought is also trying to be like a Roku. So like they're, It's funny because like their technology is pretty antiquated at this point. But when I turned it on, it was like, why is it trying to like have me stream YouTube through this thing? Like they figured out like, oh, we are 100% obsolete if we aren't also a basically streaming device. So it's got a whole, like one side of the screen is like I said, just kind of your typical like DVD menu kind of a thing. And then a whole other part of it is like, hey, but we also couldn't get you crackle. I'm just like, all right, y'all, like, I know you're trying to play, you know, you're trying to run with the big dogs, but I just thought that was weird, or not weird, but it just, it felt kind of like they were, they were, it's, it's like you and I trying to talk, Andrew, about youth culture, like we're going to do in a few minutes here.

Oh, I'm excited for that.

It's just like, it's like somebody who's hopelessly not in the, you know, not hip on culture going, but also we say the word Rizzler. I want to remind everyone that TBTL is big fans of Nora McInerney and of course all of Nora's projects, including terrible thanks for asking an incredible show that Nora hosts. One of the things, and I follow Nora on Instagram and just about anywhere else that she's putting stuff up because the stuff that she shares is always really, it's really personal. It's really supportive. I it really makes people feel seen you know nora sort of started on this particular journey when she lost her first husband and i don't think that out in the pop culture there was um really anything like what nora was doing in terms of reaching out to other people who have lost partners you know relatively young in life and that's kind of become a big you know part of her brand and a way of of relating to people that i just think is totally important and useful and um i will also say that it's not just Terrible Thanks for Asking that you can listen to, it's also the show It's Going to Be Okay. There's also the Terrible Reading Club. Nora has written many funny books, including Bad Vibes Only, which I did have her on Livewire to promote. She did not mention at one time that it was a national bestseller. She is both incredibly accomplished and incredibly humble. She doesn't need to. No, she doesn't. I would never stop talking about it. If I even had written two pages of a book, I would never stop talking about it. So I just want to give a hearty endorsement for Terrible Thanks for Asking and for all of Nora's projects. Again, Nora is just one of, really one of the most emotionally in tune people that I think I've met and has just has a way of, like I said, relating to people and connecting with them and making people who feel alone, feel less alone

in the journey that they're on. Yeah, absolutely. And I think there's a lot of overlap between the things that our listeners like and are drawn to and the ttfa community as well we were talking a second ago about how you and i i don't know i don't think proud is the right word that's not a feeling you and i are comfortable with but that tbtl is a listener supported show and when we say that we don't just mean financially we mean like the listeners support us and each other that's one of the very beautiful things about tbtl and that is also what you see over at ttfa and again i think there's a lot of overlap in our audiences because of that because the ttfa community supports each other too i mean that's what it's all about it's really special yeah absolutely that's a really

good point i mean um and you know we spend a fair amount of time kind of analyzing other shows and and or thinking about a very

ways to do this this kind of thing this podcasting world and like I remember when we were working at APM how we were just these constant conversations from other shows kind of going how do we get whatever TBTL has in terms of the way the listeners relate to each other and take care of each other and and and care about the show and the only place I've ever seen it operate the same way as in Nora's world except much more successfully just with orders of magnet more more interactions but still i mean because it's it's not an easy thing to do you have to be really uh i think you have to be ready to be really honest and vulnerable with folks i think you have to you know there's just it's it's a lot of stuff that a lot of people in the media don't sort of maybe fully understand or don't want to commit to but nora has totally committed to it and it's really created this incredible universe All right, let's thank some of our donors. These are the incredibly generous, fine folks who are keeping TBTL going. This is, as we've already been mentioning today, fully listener-supported podcasting happening. Listeners like Nicholas Jeffries of Lake Stevens, Washington. Nice. I can give you a rundown of some of the Lake Stevens luminaries, Andrew. Of course, first on the list. well it's probably tied for first would be our friends jd and thunder aka camaro kevin jd um then probably second to them in terms of of fame would be chris pratt star of the indiana jones movies the guys who made cloudy with a chance of meatballs oh i forgot about that one that filmmaking duo i believe from lake stevens washington and then nicholas jeffries so your You're top five, Nicholas. Can I put Nicholas?

And number one in our hearts. Yeah, I'm going to put Nicholas maybe above the Pratt Brothers.

Well, not to mention that none of those people that I've listed have ever donated to TBTL. So I'm putting Nicholas Jeffries. Not that I know of.

I'm going to text him right now.

Yeah. So I actually see Nicholas Jeffries as maybe the most notable person from Lake Stevens. Yeah, you're number one. I'm with you on that. Moved you up. So thank you for that. Also, thank you, Luke, for turning the volume all the way down on your sound effects machine so that you have problems. Dominic Arrico is in Federal Way, Washington. Thank you, Dominic. Thanks, Dominic. Let's see. Becky Crandall checking in from West Jordan, Utah. Oh, wow. West Jordan. Yeah. It's just a little bit west of East Jordan. Is that south of North Jordan? It is As the Crow Flies, yes. Okay. Thanks, Becky. Hey, look at who it is. It's my friend Caitlin Duffy in Seattle, Washington. Oh, it's nice to see a familiar name on the list. Caitlin, or Caitlin Dye, as we called her, was kind of my first boss in radio. Oh, really? Oh, interesting. Yeah, Caitlin was the producer of Weekday on KUOW. Oh, really? and yeah and when I was a work-study student and I was like Caitlin was probably the person tasking me with like listening to the voicemail and transcribing it this was before we had Google that lifesaver that is Google Andrew that we love without reservation on the program and um and Caitlin and I have collabed on many many projects since then particularly over at a large software concern on the east side so it's nice to see my good friend Caitlin on the list also my good friend Lloyd Christensen of Bellingham, Washington. Hey Lloyd. Hey Lloyd. How's it going up there in, in, in the Bellingham? I'm wondering, I haven't been up there since I went and got the last of my stuff, but it seems like, I mean, I need to go visit again just because I feel like I'm, people will ask me, Hey, I'm going to Bellingham. Do you have any recommendations? And I'm like, I don't actually anymore. Like, I don't know what's there. You know, I don't know like what restaurants are, are still in operation or which places closed down or, you know, what the what the cool new thing to go do is i'm i'm not i made living in bellingham such a central part of my existence you know nobody asked me where to go in kelso andrew i was ever like where

where do i go in kelso but you're already there that's why we're here exactly so let me ask you a personal question this is a very sensitive question in fact but the last time you were in bellingham getting the last of your stuff were you a little bit like navan johnson as he's like at the nadir of the film The Jerk. That's all I need? I just need this paddle ball game and this chair. And that's all I need? And your pants around your ankles and you just shuffle that.

Well, that was, I did have my pants around my ankles. So that was, no, you know, I mean to be, if I'm going to be totally honest, if we're going to try to follow the Nora McInerney model of just radical transparency.

Of course, it was bittersweet for me. It was, you know, it's a necessary thing that happens when we go through transitions in life. But there was also it was like costing me hundreds of dollars a month to have this like storage unit, which like, you know, I could I just needed to suck it up and bring the stuff down here. But it was yeah, it was you know, it was it felt like kind of good to just handle some of that business and to just consolidate like my expenses and where my stuff is. And it's nice to have the stuff here in case I need access to it. But, of course, also driving out of Bellingham when I didn't have any more things there was, you know, it let me know that, like, a particular phase of my life was really over. And that was a phase of my life that was really good. You know, I mean, it had some lows, but it had some highs. And, you know, so I would describe it as bittersweet.

I'm getting closer and closer to being a crying-at-airport guy. This has happened to me twice, like in the past several months after visiting various family members and then like saying a quick goodbye. I'm almost worried that sometimes my quick goodbyes seem rude because I'm trying to get out of there before I become a puddle. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I didn't become a puddle in either case, but I felt myself fighting it more and more and just thinking like, oh, you know, how many of these moments do we have? You know?

Yeah. And then did you get through the airport without crying?

I did what I do.

But you could feel that like you're a couple years out from not being able to hold back that tide.

And the way that I get through it is I scream at the top of my lungs because I don't want to be crying at the airport, guys. So all the way through security, I just scream top of my lungs.

Usually not words, but if I am using words, they're swears. We also have to thank our good friend Melisand. Oh, Melisand. and you know melison once many years ago sent us the most handy pronouncer for her last name and i've now it's whiffed right out of my brain you're right oh my gosh i want to say it's like

echinique that's what we always say though and and is that the wrong one you know it's so funny because i just we know meli for so long now and we're instagram buddies me and meli oh really I don't know if I am. I need to get on that train. But yeah, and now I'm really, really embarrassed because I feel like I know her so well, but you're right. Once a year when we actually have to pronounce her last name, it whiffs out my brain as well. My apologies, Melody. We love you.

I feel like Econique, right?

Econique? I mean, that's what it looks like to me, sure. Is it Basque, do you think? That looks Basque to me.

Oh, maybe. Wow, I'm really swinging for the fences. Yeah, you are. You're trying to. I'm being very, what's the word I'm looking for? i'm being very confident in my pronunciation that's basically probably red flag number one and i'm not even i'm going further i'm trying to get into maybe where geographically the origin of the last name you're trying to cover it up absolute fool's errand so thank you melly we really do appreciate you and thanks to all of our donors for making tbtl possible we could not do this without you hello and welcome to top story so andrew i know that uh this is the most annoying part of your day when i play this song but i have a new more annoying song that's actually stuck in my head that i've been wondering about it just pops up on the most like basically the videos that i see on tick tock that are like completely not really designed for my demo like it's just so many layers of inside kind of in extremely online you know internet jokes like but they're so they're they're it it's so far away from anything i've experienced that i just have no context for it if it makes any sense so there's this weird little clip this song which somebody put up i don't know what the origin of the song is exactly but it's been viewed millions of times and now it's been meme-a-fied it's a little it's a young person singing a bunch of basically a kind of a string of of terminology that we're being told is used by gen alpha i'm going to start by

just play you this little song here and then i'll explain sticking out your gap for the risler you're so skibbity you're so phantom tax i just want to be your sigma freaking come here Give me your Ohio

Okay, Andrew, if I said to you sticking out your G-ette for the Rizzler what would you think that I was talking to you about?

Was that what they said

in that tape? Yeah, I'll read you the lyrics. Sticking out your G-ette for the Rizzler You're so skibbity You're so phantom tax I just want to be your Sigma

Can you play it again?

I can. I absolutely can.

Sticking out

You're so skibbity You're so phantom tax I just want to be your Sigma Freaking come here Give me your Ohio

The last part I don't know about And they don't transcribe it in the New York Times, Andrew So I don't know Give me your Ohio? Give me your Ohio, probably I don't know That's weirdly, that's not Like, this is a piece by Madison Malone Kircher In the New York Times gen alpha is here can you understand their slang so i just want to say there's almost no chance i wouldn't be able to guess this if i hadn't read this article i knew like i knew one of the things i knew like one and a half of the things in there um but i don't expect you to necessarily get this right but i'm curious what these words sound like to you yeah man i'd like to go through the journey

i find this stuff very fun i mean i don't know if it's going to be torturous for the listeners to hear me work this out now when you say like there are not a lot of things that we stick out right Like the first thing I think of is tongue. You're sticking out your tongue. But I feel like that also might be a little bit too obvious in this case. So it's not tongue. I've gleaned that. It's not tongue. OK, then I'm going to I'm going to go with this. Is it is it your thumb? Is it like a hitchhiking thing? You're sticking out your thumb because you want the Rizzler to give you a ride.

It is not your thumb. It is a body part. Well, because you already kind of deduced that you stick it out. But it's OK.

Is it your tummy? Are you sticking out your tummy? It is not your tummy.

It's on the other side of your body.

Oh, are you sticking out your little booty? Your little booty or your big booty? Oh, yeah. I guess in this case it would be probably sticking it out. Which is a G-Yat.

They think that that got started. Know Your Meme says that G-Yat might have gotten started with a Twitch live streamer named Kai Senat. So I guess this person Kai Senat is like a very popular, I guess, Twitcher. and had started using this term giat. So you're sticking out your giat for the Rizzler? Sticking out your hiney, your backside. Now, what do you think the Rizzler is, though?

I think the Rizzler is the character that Greg Durkington calls himself when he dresses up like 1970s Joker. That's exactly right. And again, something the kids can't get enough of. For the Rizzler. Okay, I'm going to be serious about this. Do you know what that Rizz is? Are you familiar with the Riz? Mike Rizler was our boss for a while at American Public Media, but he's no longer with the company, if I understand it correctly. Okay, the Riz. Having that Riz. Okay, the Rizler.

Trying to Riz someone up. These are all forms of the Riz. And I guess if you're the Rizler, you're the recognized master.

Is it dapping? Are you, like, dapping somebody up? I don't know, man.

It's you're using your charisma to flirt with someone. Oh, rizzo. You've got that riz, the charisma. You are particularly good at talking to, like, flirting with people. Yeah.

Oh, specifically, there's sort of a flirtation thing there. Oh, yeah, that's what it is.

It's like, hey, he's really rizzing them up right now. And if you're the best at it, then you're the rizzler. Like, if you have the most game, I guess, of your, like, cohort, which is another way that they describe it. I have the most game in my cohort, in my age cohort.

Do you think that, like, you could also use it, like, oh, my God, that dork. Well, they wouldn't say dork, right? Whatever. Like, oh, that guy at the bar was trying to rizz me up. Like, you could use it that way, too. Yes, they would say.

I believe that is a statement that people in Alpha. By the way, do you know a Generation Alpha is still being born, Andrew? No, I didn't know that that was a generation. They get to still be born until 2025. They're not even all out in the world yet. I didn't even know that that was a designation. i'm not joking according to this article um let's see here i'll try to get to the the dem part uh

the demographics part that is let's see oh wow uh that's how gen xers say demographics dem uh

yeah right um i'm rizzing it up right now really well andrew as i try to like speed read this piece again yeah i somewhere in here i don't have it right in front of me but basically like um the extent of generation alpha has not even like fully been it's not even fully happened yet there are people that are being born that can still be in generation alpha i didn't even know

that was a generation um this is not this is i want to tell you something that just occurred to me that i thought was kind of interesting and you might find interesting as well quick aside here uh and i want to make it very clear this has nothing to do with flirting at a bar nobody was flirting with me but i was at a bar the other day i was at that bar that you like that's at the top of the graduate in the university district i think oh yeah the mountaineering room yeah and um i was up there in the bar i was like waiting they make kind of fancy cocktails there so i was sitting at the bar waiting for the bartender to make genevieve's cocktail i had some i was i had a simple cocktail that i was waiting on as well Not really interesting or relevant. But anyway, while I'm sitting there just waiting, I hadn't really made much conversation with the bartender. But Genevieve comes up behind me briefly and says, oh, wow, I didn't even recognize you. And I don't know why, by the way. I never followed up on that. I don't know if I looked especially good or especially bad from behind that day. But the bartender then just volunteers to me, you look a lot like a guy who was up here last night. But he was kind of like, I don't know, he looked just like you, except he was like more goth. I want to see goth Andrew. I have been puzzling that out because I just don't see how you can have my look, which is like middle aged. Now, I'm wearing some sort of a cap in this case, so I guess you can't see that I'm balding. But, like, you know, I'm of a certain weight. I am I feel like I'm of a reddish hue with both my kind of facial hair and also my skin tone. I just can't. And just the kind of beardy, like not that you can't be a bearded goth, but like I just don't see how I can't explain it. I don't see how somebody can say you look like a person I saw last night, only they were more goth. And I'm just like there's you can't combine those two ideas in my head. I've been trying to puzzle it out.

I mean, all of my thoughts about what would make goth Andrew goth Andrew are just hopelessly outdated, too It's like maybe he had black fingernail polish on. Yeah, you know, like maybe he had I don't know Doc Martens like my reference point for what even is goth anymore is so completely

outdated. Yeah, anyway, just everybody just picture that everybody be on the lookout for goth Andrew look out look out for

off andrew by the way gen alpha is this from this times article gen alpha is still being born according to demographers its birth years span from 2010 to 2025 said mark mccrindle a generational researcher in australia who coined the name gen alpha several years ago okay um do you remember

when we took a little break earlier in the show i told you i feel really off my game today like things like i just feel cloudy for some reason and i want the listeners to know that even when

we're not recording andrew's beating himself up it's not just on the air it's also off the air

and i don't know why it's kind of a bummer because it's not like i went out partying last night or stayed up later anything i went to bed at a very reasonable hour i've been up for a while like it's just like it's kind of a bummer when you feel prepared for a show and then you're low today yeah definitely my rules levels are very low um but i want maybe that's a show title So but I am now realizing you've been saying Gen Alpha and I thought Gen Alpha was the name of the musician who is singing that little song. I have been very confused.

So in other words, me saying they haven't been born yet would be a particularly mystified.

Well, that's the thing. You said Gen Alpha a couple of times in the beginning and I just sort of heard it and dismissed it quickly. I thought that was the name of the person on the tape we were hearing. Then you were talking about Generation Alpha and I'm like, oh, I didn't know that was a designation. And now you just said Gen Alpha hasn't been fully born yet. And I was like, what is this generation doing? How is this musician already making music and they're not fully born yet? I was very confused. And then I realized, oh, Gen Alpha is the generation. And Gen Alpha, could that be – now that I know that that is not a musician's name, could it be a musician's name? Could somebody swing in and be like MC Gen Alpha?

Uh-huh. Serious Hepcat. I mean my question is that what are we gonna call the next one? So what are the like you think I would know this like I guess we're Gen X right and then there's Millennials and then there's Gen Z and then Gen Alpha So are we gonna go Gen Beta or Generation Beta like where are we going after Alpha? I guess we're starting over with A Alpha so then is I mean the next thing would be Beta but Beta is actually a whole you know That's got its whole own kind of connotation. Now, speaking of which, at the end of this little song, when the person says, I want to be your Sigma.

Sticking out your gap for the Rizzler. You're so skibbity. I love the music of Jenna Alpha. You're so phantom tax. I just want to be your Sigma. Freaking come here. Give me your Ohio.

So what do you think I want to be your Sigma is? I think that means I want to be your significant other.

it is actually like sigma like s-i-g-m-a because there's this whole kind of like sub culture online of people who are alphas and betas and sigmas and like one of the things that happens a lot on like tiktok and probably on reels to some degree is that there are a lot typically it's these dudes that are getting online because they are like very into this idea of being the alpha in their kind of relationship and friend structure so just to imagine a guy who's kind of spindly actually and doesn't strike you as whatever the traditional notion of being an alpha is but he's just online all day like he's got his girlfriend with him and she and then like maybe they're in a thruple and there's like another woman there and he refers to them as like betas and they call him alpha but he's always just and this is a real person and i've seen a couple versions of it then the people just start to basically mess with this guy so the comments are just like basically going like you're not really an alpha and then he's just getting very upset because his alphaness is being questioned it's it's a very weird corner of the internet but it's basically people who are overly obsessed with the notion of if they are or not an alpha and then people who are a little more in on the joke basically riling them up so then they record these unhinged videos where they're like shadow boxing with the comment section about whether or not they really are an alpha and like anyway so now like alpha beta then i guess sigma would be you know would be even above an alpha so yeah for some reason that classification that is that has made a comeback with uh the with the youngest generation of people on this planet which is not what i really saw happening for them yeah i i don't know that i

don't know well i don't understand but i think i'm fine not understanding i don't mean that in i don't mean that in like i'm a i'm above it way like i'm not supposed to understand yes and that's

fine too you're not supposed to understand a skibbity either by the way you're so skibbity

You're so skibbity It means Well How is it used in the song again Do you still have those lyrics in front of you If you don't feel like playing the whole thing

I do Sticking out your G-ette for the Rizzler Yeah That's obvious You're so skibbity You're so phantom tax Oh funny So there's no context there I just want to be your sigma

All I know is you're so skibbity I need to be very careful how I say these words Like I'm going to be saying something very offensive accidentally I feel like if I keep trying to be young here You're so skibbity but it doesn't say there's no follow-up like if that's a good thing or a bad thing but if you want to be your sigma then i'm assuming it's a good thing you're so skibbity it means that you're a really good dancer like kind of a very a fleet-footed dancer interesting you know what

that's actually a very good guess it's not correct but i like how your brain is working there um in andrew in one trillion years i would have had no idea what the hell you're so skibbity is except of course it's explained in the new york times piece they think well and they when they interviewed a bunch of young people, a bunch of people in Generation Alpha, including somebody named Jaden, who is 12 years old. She goes to school in New Jersey. She said that lots of the boys at her school have been singing this song, which she said gives her a headache. She added that nobody really knows the meaning of skibbity. It's entered the lexicon by way of the animated series Skibbity Toilet, which has racked up more than 700 views on YouTube. A typical episode is about 15 seconds long and features a man who pops his head up out of a toilet bowl and launches into a song heavy on the use of the word skibbity. Andrew, I watched this video. I've never felt more out of touch with whatever the, whatever the pop culture is. It's basically like computer generated. It's like a street in like New York or something. And then a computer generated series of just toilets that are just kind of like moving around as if almost like they're like electric cars with this one guy's head coming out while people are hitting him with plungers and then he goes back down and sort of almost like a video game like you've got to like whack these moles that are this skibbity skibbity guy coming out of the toilet like i honestly will never get back that 15 seconds of my life that i watched and i cannot understand it on any level but that is

apparently what you're so skibbity is a reference to how much of this is so first of all so there's absolutely no connection to river dance at all it's no no michael flatley does not make any sort

of appearance huh that shocks me that shocks me they talked to a student named tarik who's eight years old and said of the scenes this is on the subject of skibbity i don't like it said tarik it creeps me out every time i go to the toilet i just want to get it quick done tarik who lives in new york state and is known online as corn kid said he was not familiar with the other terms so I think that might be the It's Corn Kid, which if you really want to bring it full circle, they got the It's Corn Kid to weigh in on Skibbity, and we learned that he doesn't like it.

Oh, that's funny. I do wonder – and, like, I don't care, by the way. I'm not self-conscious about this because it's all just for the funny. um but like how much of this do you think is like really real or this is an article that is like sort of it's exaggerating the it's exaggerating how much of this is being used on a daily basis like yes you can find the these examples here and there but like i just wonder if this was like you know 25 years ago or however long ago and you were talking about gen x and somebody would put together a list of Gen X terms and like if you were Gen X you would read that and you'd be like oh my god this is like some adult like these are adults making a big deal about terms in fact I think there was a list wasn't there a famous list that somebody in Seattle made that had fake terms on it and it fooled the national media. Do you remember that?

Yeah, it was somebody who later, I think, went on to write for The Stranger.

Oh, really?

And I think maybe they were working at The Stranger and got a call about grunge terms. Yes, yes. And I think just for fun, just made up a bunch of total bullshit and it got into the New York Times.

Yeah, you know what? Wasn't it somebody who worked for, now that you're saying that, it was somebody who worked for Sub Pop. Oh, you know, was it somebody who worked for Sub Pop? Yes, it was somebody who worked for Sub Pop. Yes, yes, yes. So anyway, I'm not, I don't know, I'm not saying is this list made up, but is it just one of those things where, and again, it's fine, we're purposely being cringe here, cringe, I don't know where that fits, into slang, but you know what I mean, like, actually, cringe is the perfect example, like, that is something that was a younger generation's word, that just became mainstream, and now I use it unironically, like, a lot of slang, and didn't we even hear, Nikki, I, God, I hate that I'm taking it here, But didn't Nikki Haley last night say, keep your daughter's mouth out of my keep your daughter's name out of your mouth?

I think she called somebody scum. And she did that as well.

But I thought she said, keep my daughter's name out of your mouth. And I was like, wow, that's sort of an interesting. Yeah, that's an interesting thing, because that comes from that's very slang culture. It might not be the most contemporary, but it's not something that I would see making its way to a woman. debate well certainly a presidential debate I was even going to just say sort of a woman of that generation and background but then certainly a presidential debate certainly so anyway just like these things have a way of kind of floating to the top and becoming mainstream and I'm just wondering like I don't I feel like this list and I'm not trying to take the piss because I love this this is fun for me I don't know about other people but I just find it hard to believe that these are really mainstream words that someday will be thrown around the way you and I learned the word extra from a very young uh table server in was that in marfa oh my gosh yes and now we use that term like unironically because it's a way of describing something you know he was being a

little bit extra i think that they introduced themselves they assume either like apologized for being extra or said i'm just feeling so extra i feel like there was a little kind of like spiel

at the top of the serving experience yeah and you and i went full old man we're just like what does that mean and we were then tickled by it then we started using it sort of ironically knowing that we were using language from a younger generation but now i think it like extra is not like a word that would pause a conversation right it's pretty mainstream now well and i'll tell you who agrees

with you basically andrew is jessica maddox an assistant professor of digital media at the university of alabama she goes whenever i think about the linguistic differences between generations i just think are we really going to do this again generational differences and divides have always been played up to some extent even before the heyday of the internet but social media really exacerbates them she cited okay boomer a retort popularized online by gen z in 2019 as an example so her point basically is like yeah this is this is always happening younger people are always going to have their own terminology for things this is not anything new or more extreme it probably feels more extreme because uh the internet you know speeds things up or broadcast things more widely but like you know somebody saying groovy was like you know out there that was weird at some point you know it's like this is just this is just what happens what would be interesting and i don't have this information in front of me so we can't really do this right now it'd be interesting to try to do some kind of sort of objective objective conversation around who actually has the best slang like what generation has the best slang because you know you think of like for us it's like thinking of like the hippie or like you know like i remember growing up and hearing a lot about hippies which was kind of weird because i was our it's already post hippie it was the go-go 80s But just hearing like it was still a very common joke for someone to be like totally far out, man. Like that was still bopping around the the comedic pop culture, even though people weren't doing that anymore.

Yeah. And also like I hear that like through the through the lens of like Jack Webb on Dragnet or something, too. Right. Like sort of like spitting out this slang in a way that is like dismissive. Like, oh, you thought you were really cool when you're hopped up on goofballs or like, you know, whatever he would say in a dismissive way. And, like, I guess we're the Jack Webbs. I'm the guy who does the expense reports.

That's the guy that I want to be. I want to be the law tiger. Johnny Dollar.

Yours truly, Johnny Dollar.

I love talking about slang.

I love talking about language. I love talking about growth.

Grocery stores. God, I'm ashamed of everything I've said today. I wish I could just go take a run around the block, like just one run around the block. That would win to me. Catch my breath and then start the show over. Is there any chance I could talk you into doing that? What do you got going on the rest of your day?

Nothing but time. If you want to do that, Andrew, I fully support that. I think that this is a battle that lives largely in your own head because I was not over on the other side of the conversation thinking you were anything other than skibbity. You're just risen me up. Yeah.

Stop staring at my G at it. Marshall said, oh, do you want to do a really, we have very, very light Blur's Day load today. Do you want to very quickly go through the rest of that list?

Well, yeah, there's two more things on there, but they're not actually that interesting. I think Skibity is pretty interesting. yeah uh so phantom tax is like so basically the guy this is again i'm just getting all this from the new york times but the guy who uh the guy that popularized giat he is like we've already established a twitch guy and then there's somebody else apparently who kind of hangs out with him or does kind of collaborations online whose name is phantom f-a-n-u-m and there was this thing where phantom uh if he was if he's hanging out with people and they're eating they would have to give him some of their food it's called the phantom tax oh okay so i guess that was kind of his shtick would be like okay i'm going to charge you the phantom tax which is my little taste of whatever uh-huh so that's you're so skibbity you're so phantom tax i just want to be your sigma and then yeah i don't know why i don't know why the article doesn't address the last thing that the person says in the song yeah like that so that's that remains a total mystery to me whatever the person is saying also it's like is it even a person is it just a computer i mean

is this a sticking out your gap for the risler you're so skibbity you're so phantom tax i just want to be your sigma freaking come here give me your ohio like i mean is that even do you

think that's even a human being singing the song or that's like a computer created voice i don't

know it's there's something kind of uncanny about it the only reason i think it's a human is because i think they pop their pee at one point i'm not even joking i'm sure they're singing into like

the thing on their corded iPod, AirPod headphones, you know what I mean? That's another thing that's back now is corded headphones and then people just hold the little microphone part and talk to them. Wait, wait, those are back?

Because I've been using mine. In fact, just yesterday, I finally sat down. I've never owned wireless earbuds. I have to say that so carefully because I always say Air Bud, which is a movie about a dog playing basketball. And I do have wireless big over-the-ear headphones but I've never had like the earbuds that are wireless and this summer at some point like halfway through the baseball games or the baseball season I should say I got sick of carrying around my big headphones and I didn't have wireless so I just went back to my wired earbuds and I was sort of thinking this isn't so bad I'm not like I'm not at the gym I'm not lifting weights like walking with this wired device is not that bad and I was sort of thinking maybe I should just get back into this i didn't realize i was a trendsetter well i think that there are other

people that might have been setting the trend even before you because i read some piece that was like about how the cool thing for the hollywood stars and starlets is to walk around with their corded you know apple branded headphones like that we all had 10 years ago at least those of us using apple products and there was like again it's probably the new york times some sort of like fairly long think piece on what it was what it was as the kids say andrew giving like what it was exactly about this that was making them so popular some people just like that it's you don't have to worry about them being charged which is a real thing because i use the cordless ones and it's always a thing of like did they both charge is one at 95 and one at 10 which never ceases to mystify me like am i listening harder in one ear how am i running these things down at different rates um and uh yeah just a kind of a sort of i guess uh like anything that people take on as slightly an affectation like it's just kind of a way of being like i don't have to always have the most modern newest version of everything you know whatever it is that that sort of like projects to the world so you're doing it man it's happening so i need to know if that

article came out before or after the all-star break because if it came out after the all-star break i'm the one who started the trend and i'm sticking to that well you're getting the blurs

days rolling i will um i will find that article and i will tell you the exact timeline because

i'm pretty sure somebody saw me on the bridge on the footbridge walking over the highway to the train station in north seattle and they said you know what that guy's got it

I don't know what it is, but that guy's got it, and this is going to start a trick.

Wall Street Journal, November 13th, 2021.

God damn it. Marshall says, you're not just a 10. Hey, Marshall. You're a 100 in my book. Wait a second. Do I not have a name of the person here? I need to go back and look at this. I have Marshall says, you're not just a 10. You're a 100 in my book. Might be because of the Tonight Pants. Happy birthday from your 11 and your fives. We love you. Is it possible he's talking to the Rizzler? Possibly. I would like to go back in my email here to make sure that I didn't mess that up. We only have two Blursdays today, which is why I sort of feel like I have room to do that. But I might need a little bit of cover.

Can we play a game, too? Yeah. I think it would be a fun. I mean, this is, I saw something on TikTok the other day that was like a contest where there was try to name a song in one note. Oh, okay. Which is actually kind of doable, or maybe it was one second of the song, the first second of the song. Because you can, there are certain things that are so iconic. I'm wondering if, because when I'm playing this audio from this particular system, it basically plays the drop I'm playing, and then it tries to auto-play the next one. And I'm always trying to stay in front of it. I'm always trying to stop it. so like can you guess what the next thing is after this let me hold on let me fix this uh after it's my birthday today oh yeah that's too much too much jacking but see how little of that that it even took like fun game i bet you could have done that in half of that if i would have given you yes half of that amount of that slap like even before he starts to say the word yeah definitely

that that that tinkling music sound by the way that that blurs day from marshall was for katie Sorry about that. Katie, you're not just a 10. I've made a huge mistake. You're a 100 in my book. Might be because of the Tonight Pants. Happy birthday from your 11 and your 5s. We love you. Thanks, Marshall. Cute. Okay, so I love this game. This is a game that they used to play on commercial radio a lot. Maybe they still do, where they just played a second of a song, right? And you've got to guess what the song is. But this could be our own TBTL version of this. And I could see the listeners really getting into this as well, because they've been listening to these drops for years and years, a lot of people.

I feel like the problem is I need to actually curate these because the reason the Slabjacking one is actually ideal is because it has something happening from an audio standpoint before the word. A lot of these things are just words, though. So, like, how would I be like, what is this one, Andrew? Symbology. That is a robot saying symbology. Exactly. Like, so it needs to be something that has audio in it that's not the person saying the thing yet that you could hear. And that actually turns out is a shorter list of audio. It just so happened at that moment it went from it's my birthday today to slab jacking. And it got me thinking about this contest, but I hadn't really thought it through.

Could that be a summer or winter game that you could produce for me? Because if you produced it, you could just grab a clip also, not even from the beginning. But because, I mean, you know, like on the radio, I sort of feel like they take a clip of, i don't know a u2 song or something right and it's just like it's just somewhere in the middle and you have to identify it i feel like sure well i definitely could yeah like and i think if i yeah

if i took a little bit of time to like edit some of these things down like let's see okay here try this one i'm just editing this on the fly okay i don't know how this is going to sound but uh let's see here okay try to see if you can figure this one out andrew well i may have over that i may They have girlbossed too hard.

Can you give me a little bit more of that?

Yeah, okay, now I've got to revert to the original. Okay, now it's probably going to be... This is better than producing it in advance, honestly. This was another one that, like, okay, I'm just doing this based on the waveform. So this is either going to be, again, not nearly enough information or way too much information. But here we go. Don't miss... Too much information.

Wait, no, wait, let me think. Let me try to figure this one out. I got this. Is that the Rizzler?

It is. Don't miss the Rizzler. All right, I'll work on this, though. I'll work on this because I do think that, I think that, like, yeah, if I actually took the time to edit this stuff down so it's just the, like, the exact right amount of information but not too much information, I think we could at least get, like, 20 drops.

Oh, certainly, yeah. That would be good. And, again, I don't know if we haven't talked about our schedules, but if we're going to do any kind of winter games this year, I would love it if you could prepare something. That would be awesome. Yeah. Okay, just one more Blur's Day here. This says, to my first cousin and TBTL friendo Melissa, may your upcoming Blur's Day be full of champagne wishes and caviar dreams. Cheers. Don't miss the Sausage Fest. From Sharon in Shenmore. Nice. That's a little winky face there. I think that's a little nickname. I think it's a little joke. Oh, I see. I think it might be Karen in Kenmore. But I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Oh, I see. It's Sharon and Shenmore. Got it. I see. That's tricky. Happy Blur's Day to everybody. To Katie. Yeah, see? It was Blur's Day I messed up. To Melissa.

See, Andrew, this was almost like an early, wait, there's almost an early Blur's Day message to you.

When is your birthday again? Oh, it's coming up. It's at the end of November. I'm not sure.

It's almost an early present to you because you notoriously dislike the Blur's Days, and so you only had to do two today.

I don't dislike the Blur's Days. I just love bringing happiness to the world. So my birthday lands on a Monday, so we will be doing a show. So I guess that's the show sheet for that Monday is just nothing but like, I don't know, a reflection on my life, probably my accomplishments, what I still have left to accomplish, where we go from here. Just a real kind of a retrospective retrospective of this. This is your life kind of a star studded event. Can we bring that? Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. I have so much fun producing that, Luke. Monday, the 27th, it's a celebration to Andrew. we already have the show title you just need to produce the rest i saw somebody i forget if i

read it or if i was watching a video of someone where they were saying and it was like you know an adult person probably maybe a little bit younger than me but it was a guy and he was saying something he was just saying casually like well it's coming up on my it's like it's almost my birthday weekend or something and i just thought like i just can't imagine everybody gets to do whatever they want but i just i cannot imagine because what it was was it wasn't even like it was his his actual birthday it was like gonna be the weekend around when his birthday was or something you know it's one of those things where it's like it's my birthday month it's my it's the weekend before my birthday it's like i just don't for me personally it's just not how i regard i if i never had another birthday celebration i don't think i would care at all and i'm a person who likes attention and who you know it's not like totally lost on me but it's just the idea there was something about the way this person was talking about their like birthday weekend, like it was going to be a whole weekend of stuff. And I was just like, oh, calm down.

I have an idea for tomorrow's show. I just landed on something here, although I think it might be too easy. You just gave me a quiz about modern slang, right? And I have landed on the website for MeTV, everybody's favorite cable network, right? and the the subject line is can you recognize uh can you understand all of this 60s slang that is heard in dragnet and i think tomorrow on the show i should this cannot wait for the winter games i will give you these 14 questions and you got to tell me what this 60s slang is how do you feel about that i feel really good about what do you think the chances are that we will remember

this um limited we still haven't talked about the 90 seconds of tape that you made where you're asking people to wish everyone happy wedding or whatever. Now, here's my question, Andrew. I will do that if you can name this sound effect.

That's the brown note. Oh, I'm familiar with the brown note.

I like that the new joke is just all of these are way too much information. None of these are nearly hard enough. Yeah, well, let's do that. That sounds fun tomorrow. And maybe we can talk about your tape. I found that tape that you made at the wedding, just how young your voice is. It wasn't at a wedding. Yeah, sorry, I had a bar somewhere. But, like, just, it honestly took me, of the 90 seconds, like, 30 seconds to actually figure out that was your voice.

Oh, really, yeah.

It's just so young.

Yeah, I was a young man. Big dreams.

And now you're just dreaming of your third act as a withered stand-up comedian.

Talking about grocery store humor. Talking about grocery store, so. All right, thanks for listening. Maybe it's more of a monologue, Luke. Can I be a monologuist? Maybe if you take the word comedy out of there, I'd have more nerve. Change the expectation. Yeah, exactly. Swimming to Safeway.

I was going to make a Spalding Gray joke. I was 100%. Swimming to Safeway is a great show title, by the way. That's one of those ones. Oh, dude, I said something on Livewire the other night that I was actually quite proud of, which is rare for me. But we were talking about the subject was romantic comedies and kind of what would happen to the characters in romantic comedies after the movie was over. We were talking to Curtis Sittenfeld, who wrote a book called Romantic Comedy. And we expanded it to just be like movies. Then we were like, would Jack and Rose stay together after Titanic if she would have scooched over and they both survived? And then Curtis Sittenfeld was saying something like, I don't think they were going to end up together. I think she wanted to live a full, happy life. She wanted to go do all her stuff. And Leo was just going to hold her back. And I go, would you say she was quiet quitting on him when she didn't let him onto whatever the piece of wood? and I don't know why I felt really good about that joke but I felt like it was exactly the right term for the moment so I just wanted to share that not with you so much Andrew but with the listeners

I'm just a little I'm just wondering where would Travis Bickle be today Taxi Driver being one of my favorite romantic

He was such a Sigma. He was. Really the ultimate Sigma. Unfortunately. Now I get Sigma. Okay, good. All right. Thanks, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, an amount too tall. And good luck to all.

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