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T-M-I-W-I-P, more like it. But one man's too much information is another man's too little information, T-L-I. And one other man's J-E-I, just enough information. T-B-T-L.

Can we talk one 10 to another?

I'm an 11, but continue.

Oh, oh, look who decided to come in tardy. You know, don't think it's okay to just roll in here at 100 kilometers per hour like you're Joel Otto with the Calgary Flames.

What, you think I'm dressed to talk? I'm dressed to party hardy like an MC Scat Cat.

It's a meme-ish thing. I actually couldn't think of the word meme for a second. I could only think of the word dank, weird.

I feel like we're just like in that tired mode where you're delirious and you're laughing at silly things. My door's always open, except when it's closed. But you can open it when it's closed.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Tuesday edition of TBTL The Show. that just might be too beautiful to live. We are living in the midst of a podcast boom. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

I don't know who that is, and I don't care to find out.

Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it's just absolutely gorgeous today. It's just lush. It's gorge. But it's going to be loud, I think.

The volume inside of this bus is astronomical.

There is so much going on here today. more siding being put up on the Madrona Hill studio which is going to involve a lot of hammers banging into the walls

too loud and too specific

I just just before the show started was observing the tow truck that was here to pull the U-Haul rental pickup that I got stuck in the mud in my own yard what an idiot and by the way tomorrow's going to be worse Tomorrow, starting at just before showtime, there will also be stump grinding. And that stump, I'm looking at it, it's like 11 feet from where I am. I don't know. I might have to go just sit in my car and do the show tomorrow or something. It's going to be an adventure here for the next couple of days. But I think you're all up for it, right? Because you're TBTL listeners and you can handle anything, including episode 4074 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. We have non-construction things to talk about as well, including Sky Jinx. Sky Jinx. More like Sky Jinx Moo, farm animals getting loose on airplanes and causing them to have to return to their original locations. So we'll get into that. We will also get into this guy's life, the longest-running cobro of the show, best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's baby-stepping. He's doing the work. He's known in some places as Mr. Unlimited. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning. I can't tell if you're spoofing me or not. Was stump grinding one of the slang terms that the youth of America use? And I just have already forgotten that. Did you introduce me to stump grinding last week?

Hold on. Let me just check the...

Sticking at your gap for the Rizzler. You're so skibbity.

you're so stump grinder they do say stump yeah I thought that that was a Chumba Wumba album of the 90s everybody is stump grinding oops that went to

disco sorry I just slipped into disco how you doing over there my stump but it

grows up again what I don't know at least it was that at least was Chumba Wumba I got that much of it right let's try to make the most painful thing on

today's show the background noise not to the foreground noise what's going on you

sound distressed oh i'm just you know i'm kind of ashamed of myself that i managed to get a u-haul rental truck stuck in my own yard like a pickup i mean we're not talking about one of those box ones right no it's like a quarter ton pickup so i had to go down to the big city of portland oregon yesterday and pick up a bunch of hardwood floor material in boxes um so i had to rent a pickup truck for that, went down, got it, brought it back up. Because I didn't realize this, but when you install a hardwood floor in a house, you're supposed to actually put it, like if it's in boxes or whatever, put it in the house for a while.

let it acclimate to the local temperature. So I went and, but the thing is, because you know me, I love any house that has impossibly steep and dangerous stairs, it's for me. And so this house, to get from sort of regular parking area down to kind of where the house is, is a very, very steep set of stairs. And these boxes, this was about 1,600 pounds of hardwood flooring. So, you know, it's going to be me and my dad carrying it. So I was like, well, why don't I pull down kind of into this side yard so that it will be we don't have to go down those steps with all this heavy wood. And and so that seemed like a good idea. But what I didn't really account for was once we had unloaded all of the hardwood, there was the truck was then considerably lighter. And it's been raining a lot out here, not even yesterday or today. it's been gorge but um but in the previous days enough so that this is kind of a grassy area that was just muddy you know sometimes for for for traction you actually need a bunch of weight in the back of like say a truck or a vehicle to you know press it down into the earth more well now all of a sudden this this truck was was light as a feather stiff as a board and so anyway me and my dad spent a good part of the afternoon trying to like shove various pieces of plywood under the wheels and uh asphalt roofing that was lying around and none of it worked so luckily my dad has triple a called carl's towing uh carl came out i assume it was carl he looked like a carl and they uh he hooked up a uh a winch on the back of his tow truck to the uh to the rental truck and he winched it out of there and it's now safely parked somewhere much drier and less muddy and will be able to return it to the place after we're done recording today this is interesting so you

wouldn't call u-haul directly in a case like that i was wondering if they would and maybe they would prefer to be called themselves as opposed to calling a third-party towing company but you didn't want to get them involved what do you think the what do you think the standard practice is

there well that's a good question i will tell you this for the first time in my life i actually opted for the like damage insurance because i figured i'm having i'm having somebody at floor and decor put 1600 pounds of of wood flooring in the back of this rig and then i'm going to be driving it down the freeway it's 11 to get basically the full coverage i was like that's oh well i was just as i was driving on interstate 5 i was meditating on the economics of that is it just that for u-haul you add up enough of those 11 interactions and it somehow nets out as a profit because it just feels like one issue like one one person crashing one of those trucks would knock out like 200 of those or maybe 300 of those 11 interactions like i'm kind of shocked it's only 11 like 11 so i can just beat the live and tweedle out of this thing beat the brakes off as they say like i just i don't it feels like it should be more money than that first of all i

I didn't know that they said that I like that beat the brakes off of something

that's usually used for when you're really you're really like you're talking about fisticuffs between two people oh really yeah that's used for like oh he really beat the brakes off of him

really yeah this gen alpha they know they have great well hold on let me check the song

I legit like the sound of that song

I kind of do too I don't think we got into the musical quality of the whole thing but I'm with you it's catchy

it is and I like the tone of the kid's voice because I think that's a kid isn't that what we learned

I was wondering if it even is it a human? is it AI? I mean, that would be a pretty light lift for some AI program at this point, right?

This is such a dumb conversation to have on air. I was unfamiliar with that story before you presented it to me on the show, and I think purposefully so because you wanted to quiz me on some of that stuff. But I was very confused. That was that day that I was complaining about how foggy I was all around, and I thought for most of that conversation, I thought Jen Alpha was a person named Jennifer Alpha, who goes by Jen Alpha, and that is not a spoof. that is named seriously like and if it was a spoof it could have been like just potentially funny or funny adjacent but the fact that i literally thought you were talking about somebody named gen alpha for half that conversation really only confused things more i think so meaning the part when i told you that there are there's still gen alpha to be born that's when i realized do you know that that's when i realized i was like oh is that is is gen alpha like the Borg in Star Trek I only know enough about Star Trek to get me in trouble so I won't even pursue that line of thought but anyway yeah so that

that was my journey on that but then after the show as I was trying to write a description and look for images to go along with the show or whatever I started to read that article then I started to google it and it seems like that audio that you're playing if I have it right was recorded by a kid to highlight all the different slang and then it was uploaded to TikTok as a song and if you look at the show pick from that day on tbtl.net okay more on that website soon yeah you will see an image of a little cartoon bear yeah wearing a chain and i believe that is from the original tiktok video of that song would you okay are you familiar with

this or i'm not i'd seen a different a kind of like video game character that was doing something but again these these memes get so so sort of sliced and diced and redone i don't know if i was looking at the original one i'll trust you that the thing that you're using and i'm looking at it now it's a beautiful photo it really is it's bear it's like a bear with a lego head but

it says gamer i may or may not be wearing crocs that's what the chain says oh the chain says

gamer yeah that's great like um so yeah i'll trust you that that was that's the the sort of uh original source material on this whole thing okay i got us way off track so anyway so you can i play you one can i speaking of like fortnite memes this is i used this yesterday But this is the drop that I can't get out of my head currently. And it's a kid celebrating, I think, some sort of Fortnite win, some sort of Fortnite. Clearly, I don't know how Fortnite works. I haven't played Fortnite. But I love this guy so much.

Another day, another victory for the OG. Taking down the sweats, the impostors among us.

I love that. You played the first half of that the other day just as an intro.

I believe I want to, in full transparency, I think this guy is doing this as a joke. Like he's in on the joke. He's intentionally doing kind of a bit of a sort of funny voice and whatever. Like, this isn't one of those things where a person is totally unaware that they're being funny. But this just lives in my head.

Another day, another victory for the OG. Taking down the sweats, the impostors among us.

Taking down the sweats, the impostors among us. I assume that all has, that means something in, like, Fortnite or whatever. But, like, oh, I just, this is now my new, it's my next tattoo.

Another day, another victory for the OG, taking down the sweats, the impastos among us.

Oh, I love that so much. Actually, if you want to send that to me, that might be, I might bake that into some montages here and there. Oh, yeah, that could be real good. It reminds me, I mean, you're not going to go along with this, I think, probably because you have visuals to go along with what you're seeing, and this is a stretch, but for some reason, when you play that piece of tape and I hear that sort of nasally voice, it reminds me.

Today, another victory for the OG, taking down the sweats, the impastos among us.

That one. It reminds me of that guy on TikTok that you introduced me to years ago with the mustache. It's Gucci something.

Oh, Gucci Pineapple. Gucci Pineapple. He does sound a little bit like Gucci Pineapple.

I love me some Gucci Pineapple.

I do, too. And Gucci Pineapple is pretty good at the drums. I think that guy goes to Berkeley School of Music and kind of will play these little jazz numbers, too. So, yeah, I know I definitely – now, the funny part is that the person that I've seen associated with the meme, and the meme I'm talking about is this one, Andrew.

Another day, another victory for the OG, taking down the sweats, the impostors among us.

That guy, that's the meme I'm talking about. He looks very different than Gucci Pineapple, but he sort of has longish, blonde, hairy, almost looks kind of like he would be, like, the quarterback of the football team. And he's doing kind of one of those exaggerated like he's stroking his chin like in a real sort of moment of triumph and celebration But anyway you were so back to the question of why I didn't why I didn't self-report to u-haul I mean the first thing is because my dad has triple-a yeah, and it's free And so let me just shout out for triple-a, which I actually I may still have it I'm not sure but I used to have it when I had that older Toyota 4Runner as part of my automotive empire because you know if you have an older car there's a decent chance it might break down I want to say AAA is like 75 dollars a year or something it is so not expensive considering that like imagine one time you have a dead battery or you lock your keys in your car or you're stuck in the mud like it just see in fact I'm probably going to just sign up for it again even though I have sort of a newer car now because it just seems super convenient but my thought was well my dad has triple a it's not going to cost him anything it's not going to cost me anything so why bring u-haul into this but if he didn't have that i probably would have called them next because there's no damage to anything it just was stuck and maybe the 11 would have covered it it would have been kind of nice it would have been nice to utilize that 11 to get my 11 worth uh out of out of them but uh you know it it is what it is i'm just glad that the whole problem is handled. Did I tell you

you this speaking of automotive issues um oh before i tell you about this thing i want to just mention something really quick which is we are doing live wire tomorrow uh thursday night at town hall in seattle and uh we still have there are still uh some tickets left as you may have heard me sweating like an og just sweating the trying to put enough people in that room so we get a nice sound in the audience and this is what the people at live wire have said because They would love to get some 10s out there. They're going to give you a $10 ticket. If you want to come, basically, it's almost free. I'm not even getting paid. I've turned my entire salary in for this show just to make it so that it's affordable for everyone. If you go to the livewireradio.org and you buy the ticket, you get to where you're at the end. It goes, do you have a promo code? And you use TENS, capital T-E-N-S. You get a ticket for $10. Town Hall, Thursday night. Sam Sanders will be there. It's going to be really fun.

Okay, you know what? But this is a direct message from me to your producers. Or give me their email, and I will email them directly. Yeah, please. They're using TENS as a promo code for their show. I want to hear a promo for TBTL on the Livewire radio show this Saturday. I'll be listening. If I don't hear it, I'm coming down to Portland.

See, I know how unlikely it is that you – I can promise you, Andrew, 100% that's going to happen.

I'm going to hire a TaskRabbit to listen to that show on Saturday.

can you imagine getting that call or getting that email like task grab you're like okay what am i gonna do put together some ikea furniture hey i need you to um listen to kuow at noon on saturday and tell me if that guy the host of that show if he mentions my podcast they're like you know what

uh we're not allowed to do that it's in the bylaws no uh okay ten dollar ticket to live

wire thursday night please come everybody come early come off in and go you do t-e-n-s capital tens that's like and you put it in there and the promo code and you get basically a free ticket okay so this what happened to me the other day on the subject of task rabbits and automotive hassles and also um sort of surprisingly good outcomes andrew i uh the craziest thing happened with my car which was i was leaving becca's place i had my little overnight bag packed and in it was my car key which is just a fob right it's like he doesn't does you don't insert it into the uh you you know ignition or whatever the steering column of the car anymore so and it also unlocks the car if you're standing in the car so the car unlocks I open the driver's door I put my bag down on the driver's seat I go around either the other side of the car for something and in the meantime when I shut the door the car locks itself with my key inside the car which isn't even supposed to be able to happen I don't think but I think the battery was getting a little low on the fob so somehow I open my own car I put my stuff in the car i'm going to a different part of the car and in that moment the car relocks itself with the key inside it and i was like so frustrated because i needed to get back up here for some stuff and i was just like this you know locking yourself out of your car who knows i feel like it was a sunday i mean this could be you know hours and hours of delay and so i get on the horn with mazda and it turns out because i now bought this car of mine i looked the lease was up so i ended up just buying the rest of it and i guess i they probably tricked me into getting whatever the roadside assistance is and i get a very nice woman on the phone and she says uh yeah okay i'll put the apb out uh it could take you know between one to four hours and i was like all right well this is just life and uh so she sends it out five minutes later i get a text from someone hey i'm uh the lock guy uh are you gonna be at the car i'm like yeah he says i'll be there in five minutes within about i would say from when i called mazda to when this kid rolls up in like a honda accord it's like 10 minutes total and he just jumps out he's like are you luke he goes yeah i go yeah he goes um okay he has one of those little have you ever seen these um it's like an inflatable bag that you you wedge you wedge open the door a little bit and then you slip this kind of inflatable hand pumped kind of bladder for lack of a better word and you pump it up with your hand and it just opens the door enough to get this tool in there.

This is not like in the area of the door that you'd usually slip a Slim Jim down? This is actually the crack of the door where it opens?

Yeah, it's kind of the outline of the door. So first he's got this one little rubber thing that gives him enough space to slide in this. You know what it looks like? It looks like when a small business goes to the bank and they have one of those vinyl envelopes for all their checks and receipts. it looks like that but it's inflatable and so you slide that in and you go and somehow that's enough to create just the tiniest amount of space and then he's got this other thing that's like a hook basically um that he can then put in the car and then just like manually unlock the door it took under 15 seconds for him to do this whole thing and then he goes i just need to take a picture of uh your car unlocked and then he just said all right and he just jumped back in his car and left and i was like are you an angel were you even i would expect someone to say oh uh colin he died years ago that was an angel my friend that i mean i couldn't believe how slick this whole thing was and it was definitely like a gig economy thing like this is the guy who's got this equipment and he's on you know a certain number of these uh probably like you know roadside assistance bulletin boards or however it works however the apb goes out he probably drives around portly probably gets 15 bucks a pop which you know considering it took 15 seconds it's a dollar a second i guess it's not terrible but i was just like the kow for me that he would charge

you a lot more for that's actually i'm not joking the whole time you were um describing that you and you said it only took 15 seconds, my brain, and I'm not even joking, my brain started automatically playing the Mission Impossible music. I sort of heard that in the background. When you went, I sort of heard, da-na-na, da-na-na. I mean, it just sounds like sort of cinematic. And also, like, why isn't he just stealing cars if he has this trick?

Well, that's what I wonder about. I mean, it's like somebody being a master, like, locksmith slash lock picker. Like, you'd think, I mean, that's a dangerous amount of information to have. now he i mean he the thing that that would hang this kid up were he to have nefarious intentions and by the way there was zero indication of that would be he still wouldn't have the key so he could get into a i mean i guess what he could do is get into a lot of cars and potentially take out their contents which would be not great and a thing that happens a lot in big cities um but yeah i'm like it almost feels like one of those things like should that be legal to sell that little thing whatever that is um because it was quite effective but it was just it was one of those things where for once it felt like all the systems kind of worked actually together and in my favor i spent a lot of time on this show complaining about the kind of vicissitudes of modern life and how you know all these things that are supposed to be make our life better don't make our lives better etc but this was one of those times where i was like okay well good job mazda uh you actually answered the phone and whoever there they actually sent it to the right people and then there's some kid with his honda accord who's got this equipment and he's you know getting paid to come over and do like it just it all everything kind of came together and next thing you know i'm just on the road like as if nothing had happened and i found it to be a very it just could have been so much worse and it wasn't and i was

appreciative of that i'm going to ask you a question here that's going to sound like a real like old man warm take right um that's what we're known for you know or or like it's just like really bad stand-up observational humor from 20 years ago or something but i'm why don't they make the whole car out of the black box why don't they make the entire airplane out of the food yeah exactly why don't they make the entire hospital out of the food um no uh my question for you is this truly what is the advantage of having a key that you don't put into an ignition i drove drove a rental car a few months ago for a few days when I was traveling, and it did have that technology. I basically kept the key in my pocket. You know, I'd walk out of my hotel room, take the key out, unlock the car, I guess put the key back in my pocket, then start the car with the push of a button. It's fine. I'm not trying to make it sound like I can't live in this modern world. I can't navigate these modern cars. Like, whatever. It's fine, but it does seem like the only big differences it leads to issues like the one you had where it doesn't solve anything i guess wear

and tear on a key but like how big of an issue is that i agree i mean i've had this car for however many years now that i've been down in in oregon and southern washington and i'm still not fully used to the process because again when the you're absolutely right when the key is divorced from the ignition when there's no longer the need to put it in the ignition you kind of never know where the fob is and what you end up finding yourself doing which i do a lot is kind of wandering around in the general area of the car hoping that when you touch because also the way that it works with my car is i mean there's you know a button on the key but i can touch a little kind of a little not even button but just a little something that reads biometric data i think on the door handle and if I touch that thing while I have the key anywhere near me just unlocks the door. So that's kind of slick technology, but it also means that at any particular moment, I don't really know where the key is. I hope it's in the bottom of my overnight bag. I hope it's in one of my pockets. And the way I find out if I actually have the fob is to just go stand near the car and hope it opens for me, which doesn't seem like a huge improvement on the time-tested thing of you get your car keys, you put it in the ignition, you start the car. Yeah. And you know me, I'm a pretty meticulous person. I mean, to the point where it's irritating, I think. Oh, yeah. To live with me.

Actually, maddening is a term I've used behind your back.

Maddening is a better word. Yeah, no, I do think that actually some of my, again, I'll use the word meticulousness, although I don't know if that's exactly the word I'm looking for. I think it does probably irritate Genevieve. But like I am somebody who always knows where my wallet and keys are, you know, like if they're in my pockets, they're always in the same pockets. And if they're not in my pockets, I know where they are around the house. I just know where things are I just keep track of things and maybe because for a big part of my life I truly believe that if something bad could happen it would happen to me looking back I don't know why I got that feeling honestly now I just feel like the luckiest kid at school I don't know why I had that entrenched in me or whatever imprinted in me but for some reason I always thought I was a very unlucky person so therefore I had to go the extra mile to make sure I always knew where everything was, and that's why I am the way I am, for better or for worse. But even for me, I think, you know what? I was renting that car that I just mentioned, but also you and I rented something that, was it the Jeep? Sorry, I got really excited. My Jeep! I loved that Jeep. Didn't that Jeep have a similar situation that we rented when we were in Polsbo? You didn't need to put the key in there?

The Wooly?

That's right.

The Willis? What did we find out? But actually, I was saying it wrong the whole time. Oh, yeah, yeah. That thing, I think that was like a $70,000 Jeep or something. I don't know why they upgraded me to that. It was just, I guess, all they had at SeaTac Airport. But, like, yeah, I'm sure it had every bell and whistle.

And I left it running. Like, I think definitely once, if not twice, parking in your parents' driveway, you or John had to say, hey, are you going to turn the car off? And I was like, oh, I guess I will. And again, like, aside from the embarrassing moment of feeling like you've really lost grip on reality as you're the driver getting out of the car and just leaving it running, I just don't, again, I don't know what the, I don't see what the convenience is. It only seems to have downsides of, oops, I don't know where my keys are, or I've left the damn thing running because I walked away. I guess if you walk away with the keys, will it stop eventually?

it's depending like it sometimes it'll honk the horn depending on how the car is set up so this u-haul truck that i was tooling around in yesterday that i was mud bogging in um it for being a u-haul pickup truck that's you know 19 bucks a day or something surprisingly high tech one also fob and i accidentally left the key the fob in there when i was starting to go into home depot again to your point andrew like when the key is dangling from the ignition you just kind of instinctively at least if you're our age you just you know take the key out and then you but when when it's not part of that system you just kind of like where is it so I get out of the truck and I start walking it's going it's like by the way was I don't know why the beep sounded like all dyspeptic walrus but it did the thing the thing was beeping at me telling you read how much do you think Andy Reid at least I don't I want to say this in a way that doesn't sound like I'm body shaming anyone or being being callous i am saying this from a perspective of envy how much fun do you think it was for andy reed to shoot that commercial with jake from state farm and patrick mahomes where basically his job is to eat their fast food because that seems like a dream gig

i think he does a great job in that i actually think the mahomes does as well these and i think jake from state farm is the weakest link uh he's fine like jake from state farm is always just kind of a benign presence right like he's never the star of any of those commercials and I think that and Veves and I I don't even know if we've talked about this on our podcast we just do this like we just we've talked about this Jake from State Farm commercial at the fast food restaurant with Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes so many times off air and sometimes I think in commercials like that Mahomes can be very wooden and not believable I think he's generally a likable guy but I don't think he's always a star performer but and i'm surprised that andy reed actually is pretty natural on camera like you know doing lines not just being himself not just being a coach and i would say that that commercial where they're both sitting all three of them if you count jake which i do i see you jake um at the fast food table like i sort of feel like they those two people from the sports world do a lot of acting with their faces that i don't expect athletes to be able to do like i believe andy reed wants those nugs i do think that's pretty funny i mean nugs

are having a moment as a punchline but i do like the way he says nugs in the camera now do it again with those nuggies i think he might even say nuggies he might and he's got a glint in his eye

yeah and mahomes truly does look like a an animal that wants to be protective of his own food as Andy.

reed starts to get closer and closer to his nuggies and tots i do think part of it is because

i've been trying to be a little bit better about about kind of what i've been eating and stay away from the nuggies and things um that i think i was watching that commercial on sunday during the game whilst not eating any game food and just being like god i wish i could just be andy reed i wish i could just be a truly a very successful nfl coach beloved character one time kick pass punt competitor where i was a entire foot taller than everyone else on the field and person who's getting paid a good amount of money to eat nuggies on television like seems like an okay uh okay

existence well i mean i don't you know i'm not one to tell you how to live your life but i mean you can i mean you can't i think it's probably too late for you to be a um nfl head coach i think i don't want to take that away from you but like that antonio pierce just found himself head coach

of the Raiders that was nobody saw that coming oh is that who that guy was I saw him on Sunday

Night Football and I got the impression that he was new he's the guy who said he grew up in like Raiders Nation or whatever he seemed like kind of charming yeah he played for the U-Dub oh he did

really yeah he's got that dog in him yeah he was I believe so maybe I should double check that I've always thought that he was uh a maybe a defensive lineman for the Huskies and then he went undrafted he got into the NFL he actually was on a Super Bowl winning team he was the Howard Stern shows intern i believe when he played for the giants and you mean like an honorary intern he wanted he was trying to figure out what his next act was going to be when football was over and so he like interned with the howard stern show for like a week or something which they were talking about because now he's the head coach of the raiders and basically here's okay sorry can we just can can the can the listeners uh forgive me a slight sports talk with you andrew because i just think This is funny. This has probably come up on Levitard or other places. But so the Las Vegas Raiders, which will never that will never feel natural for me to say. But anyway, the Las Vegas Raiders, they had this coach named Josh McDaniel, who was a protégé of Bill Belichick, the coach of the Patriots. And by the way, my dad had not heard of Bill Belichick, which I thought was interesting. Like, it just seems like you don't have to be a sports person, but just if you're walking around in the world, it seems like you'd hear the name Bill Belichick. just in the news someone would say it but anyway uh so this guy who was the head coach of the las vegas raiders was losing his grip on the team they the team was kind of you know he was apparently he was really harsh he was really critical of the players he was really just like not he did not handle uh when they would when when players would mess up he didn't handle it particularly well and he would just he was just really mean to everyone and the team was losing and there was a crisis and so he feels like he's losing the team so he turns to one of his assistants this guy named um antonio pierce uh who uh who who was i don't even know what his job was on the team but he said like can you go in there and give these guys a dramatic speech so antonio pierce goes in and gives a dramatic speech that's a story about the time that his team the giants beat the new england Patriots in the Super Bowl. The New England Patriots being the team Josh McDaniels was coaching for. So basically Antonio Pierce was just trying to go to his like most inspirational story he can tell these guys. And when he gets done, he walks out. So supposedly the head coach, Josh McDaniels said, don't you ever talk shit about the Patriots again, which is really not reading the room or focusing on the real issues. And by like the next day, Josh McDaniels was gone And Antonio Pierce was the new head coach. And he won two games and everybody loves him.

I had caught the end of that story on some random, like some, like, you know, I usually have my AM radio set to the local sports station. And during the week, I know what to expect when I turn it on at any time of day. But then on the weekend, sometimes I flip that thing on and I have no idea what kind of national sports programming. I usually, whatever it is, I usually dislike it, but it's better than having my own thoughts, right? And I heard the end of that story. I heard the end of that story, but I didn't understand the setup. All I know is that it was, I'm sorry, the name of the guy who was fired was McDaniels.

Antonio, oh, Josh McDaniels.

McDaniels, yeah. And I knew that he had been fired and I knew it had something to do with him, you know, like the locker room culture and him losing the team and everything. And I had heard some bit of him like also hissing at somebody, don't you ever bring them up again or something.

Right, which just seems to totally confirm, like, this guy being not a particularly nice person and also not someone who really understands. Like, you know, if it's getting your players excited, who cares that it was a game that happened to go poorly for your team at the time? You know what I mean? Like, an inspirational story is an inspirational story. Like, if your butt hurt about that, then you're probably not cut out to, you know, coach in the NFL.

Yeah, and this new coach whose name you've said a million times, Antonio Pierce, I don't know anything about him. I just had.

sunday night football on like kind of in the background while i was making some chili this weekend and um it's chili time luke god it just makes me so happy even if you don't eat the chili just spending a sunday evening with like sunday night football pattering on in the background while you're just chopping there's something about making chili that is so satisfying because it's so easy but it also takes time and you can just like putter around it's the ultimate puttering recipe and so anyway it was on and i saw some press conference where he was being introduced And he was just like, I was born a Raider because, of course, they were they were not the Las Vegas Raiders.

No, they were probably the L.A. Raiders at that point, because I think he might be from like Compton. I want to clarify something. Antonio Pierce did not play for the Huskies, played for the University of Arizona. We had a guy named Aaron Pierce who was a tight end. And that is why I was confused.

Sorry about that. I was going to say something, but I didn't want to embarrass you in front of all the listeners. But anyway, he just seemed like it just seemed like a pretty cool story. And I was like, oh, this is a new face. He's a black head coach. There are very few black head coaches in the NFL right now. So very few of them.

One time Howard Stern show interns.

Very few of them Howard Stern show interns. I didn't know any of the background on him. That's really interesting stuff. They were playing this. No idea what we're talking about, though.

They were playing this great tape. This is so you already had your part where you talk about Levitard. Now I talk about Stern and then we call it a day.

No, actually, I didn't. I didn't bring up Levitard yet. But I still have one left, I think.

You still have one chit to play. It was funny because they were, when Antonio Pierce was their intern, they were messing with him by having, his job was to call screen, and they were having people call in with all kinds of different things, like pretending like their phones were going out all the time, and they were just razzing him and kind of hazing him. The staffers were calling him pretending to be. The staffers were calling him, pretending that they're on a terrible phone line, or that they wanted to just talk about like nonsense like they were it was basically like call screener hazing which i'm very much here for i'm not here for regular hazing but when it comes to just like a person being annoying to

you on the phone that i can get behind we need to figure out a way to be just slightly more cruel

on this show but only towards like people that play for the new york giants you know what i mean

like that's why like we're so anti-prank culture or whatever and i bring a well i bring that energy You're more anti-prank culture than I am. Honestly, but we've got to set up Sklaroff to have to screen calls for us or something, right?

He'll probably hear this, so I think that we've already ruined that bit. I'll beep it out. Hey, we want to tell you about the cool stuff that's happening over in the terrible Thanks for Asking universe. Helmed by our good friend Nora McInerney Who is a podcaster, writer Friend to all We've had Nora on the show lots of times And of course Are big fans of TTFA But the thing that I've been listening to a bunch Lately, Andrew, is It's Gonna Be Okay Which is a daily Well, it's five days a week It's like a five day a week podcast From Nora and her team And because, you know, Nora because she's written a lot about grief and because that's something that she's so adept at talking about and giving advice on. People tend to think of her only as being in the grief space and something that she always says to us both on air and off air is, I'd like to expand my wings a little bit beyond just the grief space. And that's where it's going to be okay comes. And I was listening to one today. It was so great. It was just a voicemail from somebody who had been taking a picture of a sunset. I felt like this was actually very relatable to you. They'd been taking a picture of a sunset and felt kind of embarrassed about it because they were coming out of a shopping mall. So this person, the setup was, I really love sunsets. And like, I used to live in this apartment building that I could see really beautiful sunsets. I would take pictures of it. And then one day I'm walking out of a shopping center and I just see like a sunset and I take a picture with my cell phone and I'm like feeling kind of embarrassed because like I'm standing in a parking lot taking a picture of the sunset, like how corny. And then this person noticed other people taking pictures of the sunset including a young person and then they were like i felt like well if teens are doing it it must be cool and like that was the show that you know that was the pretty much the entire episode was just somebody relaying a story of where they kind of just got a good feeling on that day over something that i think we can all kind of relate to

they got validation from somebody who is sticking out their naiad for the rizzler Exactly. Giyot, but yes. I'm a Diana Nyad.

Sticking out your Nyad for the rest of the week. Do you know that there's a movie about Diana Nyad where she's played by Annette Bening?

I've seen. Is it new? Because I feel like I've been seeing some Nyad popping up in my feeds lately.

I think it's called Nyad. Sorry, Nora. This is, listen, you buy the ticket, you get the ride. Wait till we get to the.

the donors, that entire talk is gonna be about David Brancaccio. I saw, it's so funny because they've got Annette Bening so kind of, you know, she's in sort of, in, what's the word I'm looking for? Full immersion mode to where I was watching a little bit of this thing on Netflix because I thought it was gonna be a documentary about Diana. For people that don't know, Diana Nyad is a journalist and kind of an endurance athlete in America. She's like, she's been, she's a swim or swum or swam. She swam from Cuba to Florida, and it's just this crazy story of endurance because she's getting stung by jellyfish and menaced by sharks, and it's just a nightmare.

And when she's not doing that, I would describe her maybe even as a savvy traveler. I'll just throw that out there.

She did the savvy. I think she was a sports journalist as well. I used to hear her on Marketplace, which is part of why I joked about David Brancaccio. So I'm watching, you know how on Netflix you hover over the icon and it starts showing you the thing? And it took me five, not five minutes, It took me at least a minute to figure out that I was looking at Annette Bening as Diana Nyad, not Diana Nyad as Diana Nyad.

And you worked—didn't you work with Diana Nyad?

No, but I've interviewed her on stage for her book, so I kind of knew her a little bit from the public radio world. But anyway, back to—

Yeah, we've given Diana Nyad way too much time during the promo for Nora. Hey, I'd like to tell you about the cool things that Diana Nyad is doing. No, no, no.

Sorry, Nora. Anyway, I'm being very serious when I say that listening to It's Going to Be Okay has had the exact effect on me that it's supposed to have, which is, like, I've been having kind of a bit of a stressful week for me. We've got this LiveWire show on Thursday night. I'm going to be filming a bunch this weekend for a large software concern on the east side. I have this kind of, like, four days of, like, stuff that just gives me a real anxiety feeling, and I've been kind of just walking around with a pit in my stomach. And as I've been listening to It's Going to Be Okay, again, it's also the opposite of TBTL in that it's like eight minutes. It's focused. It's good, so that's one difference.

They got producers over there, man, like real producers.

You're not committing to like an hour and a half of your life. It's just like a little quick bite of something that's going to make you feel like the world actually is going to be okay or at least has moments of grace. And that's something we can all use. It's something that I've really actually been appreciating this week, for real, for real. So head on over to the Nora McInerney universe, which includes, of course, Terrible Thanks for Asking, and It's Going to Be Okay. There's also the Terrible Reading Club. And one last thing I'll mention is that Nora has the national bestseller book out, Bad Vibes Only, which I have read, not just because I had to for my other job, but because it's a fine, fine book. So check out what they're doing wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's thank some of our donors today. These are the people keeping TBTL in business. There is no way that I would have $11 to pay for the full coverage on the U-Haul pickup truck without people like... What? Amy Wu? Amy? Amy, our friend Amy Walensky of Chicago, Illinois. Thank you, Amy. The one time, what was Amy's exact title when she worked so instrumentally with TBTL back in the day?

I mean, exact title, I don't know, but she ran our fundraiser. She ran our TBTL. That was amazing. Yeah, and it was amazing. And also made a TBTL ship that we sent up into the sky tied to balloons when we were in the Twin Cities.

That was so great. We love Amy. I mean, I have to say, like, we're appreciative for every single amount of attention that people give us and donations and anything like that. But it's particularly gratifying that somebody that we worked with has just been donating to the show. Just like, hey, this should still exist. Like, that's next level. So thanks, Amy. We really appreciate you. Thanks also to AJ Nolan, who's in, say it with me, Norfolk, Virginia. One of my very favorite places to say now that I know how to say it.

You do like to say that, because I was going to say, like, first of all, shout out to AJ, long time listener and pen pal to the show. But Norfolk always makes me, I feel, number one, like I'm mispronouncing it. And it also feels like I'm swearing a bit. Well, that's what I like about it. See, you feel like you're getting one in there, huh? Exactly. It's like faux king teriyaki. Do you know? Okay, this has come up, so I'm just going to do it. Do you know that today I almost went with, like, some intro tape? From the show, the Portlandia, where they're an ad agency that specializes in puns. And it begins with them answering the phone and saying something like, we'll handle all your pun needs except for.

pho restaurants and i didn't use it because i didn't want you to think that i was passive aggressively making fun of your pho pun from yesterday that's what went through my head today when i was looking for intro tape thank you i appreciate that would you have would you have even thought for a moment oh that is tape that andrew is using because he doesn't want to hurt

my feelings because i made a pho pun on yesterday's show no i would not now now what i'm realizing now in this conversation is that you thought my pun was bad, so you were worried about criticizing me through audio intro. Well, I'm

going to use that intro tomorrow, so you can take it

however you want. Okay, excellent. Thank you, AJ. I know that AJ Nolan never judges me, so thanks, AJ. Also, Emily Burnett is in Woodinville, Washington. Hey, I've been there with you. You sure have? Absolutely. Out there at old Chateau San Michel. There's a lot of really cool stuff in Woodinville. It's amazing the... I'm not saying anything interesting here, Andrew, so buckle up. Hey, that's my lane. It's amazing. When I was growing up, my aunt and uncle, Uncle Tom and Aunt Alice, my dad's sister and her husband, they lived out in Woodinville. And I remember it was just, you know, it was ex-urban. It was like it was a journey. It was like you had, you know, you brought along provisions. And now it's just Woodinville is just a thriving metropolis. And they have every kind of thing you could want. And it's such a cool town and cool city. My daughter actually went to high school there for two years as well.

I didn't know that.

Emily, thank you. Thanks to Allison Hitchner, who's in Arlington, Massachusetts.

Oh, okay. Massachusetts. I thought we had another Virginia sneak in there.

Could have been a Virginia. Could have been Washington. Arlington, Washington.

But it wasn't, was it?

No, it wasn't. It was. And I wouldn't have it any other way, Allison Hitchner.

Thank you, Allison.

I think that's exactly the right place for you. Arlington, Massachusetts. Robin Laughlin-Eron is in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. Stevens Point. Where did we have a Wisconsin earlier this week that I said, do we have like multiple, do we have two people in this particular town of Wisconsin? And I said, that's a hot zip for us. We had a Madison, Wisconsin yesterday. It wasn't Madison. So maybe it would have been last week. Yeah, maybe. I'm scrolling back here.

Oh, there was a Janesville, Wisconsin.

That's what I was thinking.

Holy macaroons. We've had a Wisconsin on Friday's show, Monday's show, and Tuesday's show. Good people out there.

Yes, thank you. good people supportive listeners wisconsin perennially leads the nation in alcohol consumption per capita are these things related i don't know i hope so i'm not i'm not trying to you know sort of argue for any causality there i'm just saying they sound like party people and they also like tbtl thanks robin and then douglas del paggio is in san francisco california very nice yes we've have we ever done the show in san francisco i don't not since i've been aboard this crazy i wonder how we would do i wonder if we could do a live show down there um and kind of draw in folks from the sort of larger silicon valley norcal world um what i would love to do if we were going to do the show in san francisco and i don't know legally if we can do this or from an OSHA standpoint if it's allowable, but there is a really, really famous kind of tiki bar and restaurant called the Tonga Room that's in the basement of the Fairmount Hotel. And what's amazing about it is that it has a kind of a fake lake in the middle of it. Like it's, imagine it's like a really big kind of fountain-y thing, except this is in the basement, so it has, you know, relatively low ceilings. And they have a band that plays on Friday and Saturday nights, And the band is on this little boat that goes out into the middle of the lake and then goes back. And they have an indoor rainstorm as well happens. And what would be great is if we could do TBTL from that little boat and float around on this lake in the Tonga Room. That would get me to San Francisco. So, Douglas, if you could work that out, that would be pretty dope.

Douglas, how have you not already set this up for us? I'm booking my tickets now. That is the most amazing thing I've ever heard. I want to go there first as a patron and then as a performer.

I'm going to send you a picture of this thing, Andrew. Again, when I say lake, that's a really, really big overstatement. Just imagine, like, I'm going to take a picture, and you might even hear this, Andrew. So that's—oh, no, it's muted for some reason. I'll send this to you. And also, I want to make sure that I manage expectations. This is the coolest picture ever of the Tonga Room. It really makes it look like something. When I was there—actually, I was there when we did Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me in San Francisco, because they were remodeling the theater in Chicago. But let's see here. I'm sending it to your Gmail account. Let's see if this works. Anyway, we all went there after doing Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me in San Francisco, and it was a fun time. And I remember Bill Curtis picking up the tab, which was amazing because it was very expensive. He's not a big drinker that I've noticed. And, yeah, there was a lot of people there. And we ordered a couple of poo-poo platters. And those things were a lot of food and I think a lot of tropical drinks being consumed. And at the end of the night, Bill just said, I got it.

And I was just like, oh, Curtis for the win. Nice. I am looking at this photo right now. I need to go here. Whether or not I can write it off as a TBTL expense, whether or not I'm on that boat or watching that boat, this is amazing. I mean, I truly love a tiki bar and a tiki drink. Like, I don't know if that seems out of character or on character, but I love it.

Yeah, you know, I'll tell you, and we've got to get to other parts of the show here, but when I kind of got into that a little bit was when I lived in L.A. Because L.A. and in particular like Glendale Some of the outskirts of L.A. just have great tiki bars And I think it just has to do with when those areas kind of became more populated It was the era of the tiki bar So in building out places like Glendale and Tarzana and stuff There were just a lot of these tiki bars that are just so fun In fact, was it a TBTL event where we were talking to some folks? who's I feel like this might have been around the 4,000th episode talking to some folks who really love tiki bars and they in fact do like tiki bar tourism like there's there are these groups that that'll like all descend on a particular city for a weekend and they're like tiki bar enthusiasts and they go to all the different places I was talking to somebody if you're if you're that listener get at me because I was talking to somebody I believe it was a married couple who love tiki stuff and that's like and they were showing me all these pictures and I was like, oh, you know what it is? It's a Tiki Basement Tour. I actually don't think this was TBTL related. I think it might've been a Livewire thing, but so there are these Tiki Basement Tours because throughout the country, there are lots of people that have built these elaborate Tiki Bars in their basements. And so the Tiki Bar enthusiasts will all kind of pop into the same town for a weekend in a coordinated fashion and they'll do kind of like a pub crawl or a bar crawl between different basement Tiki Bars.

That sounds wonderful.

And some of the photos were amazing of what people have done in their basement. It's crazy.

That is great. The only downside to a good tiki bar is if it's overcrowded. Like, there was one in, you were talking about L.A., and I remember going to a tiki bar that everybody said, oh, you've got to go to this bar. And it was after a movie. It must have been in Silver Lake. Was it Silver Lake? I know exactly the one.

Was it called Tiki Thai? Was it right off the sunset? Probably. And it's like, it's literally the size of a one-car garage.

Yeah, it's a tiny, long, narrow, and, like, you go in. Nightmare. And I was like, oh, well, this place looks great if everybody would leave, but I don't know.

Have you ever considered saying that upon entering the bar?

Yes, I think I have. Well, my face has definitely said it. And that's one of those things where it's like, I love a tiki bar, but the whole thing is it should be chill. You can't be just jam-packed in with a bunch of hipsters.

This local landmark whips up tropical drinks in a tiny room. It's right there in the Yelp review. And that's around the corner from where I think you used to get. Did you get your hair cut at that Rudy's over off of Sunset when you lived there?

I moved my Rudy's around a lot in L.A. I don't think I landed anywhere in particular. But no, you know, I think the member I've told you before that I only had kind of like one negative and it wasn't terrible, but one kind of negative Rudy's experience. I think it's the one that you're describing. So I think I only went there once.

And, you know, that was also the one where the person said to me, I can stop this haircut right now. Oh, yeah. And it was literally the same one in Los Angeles off of Sunset over there by the Vista Theater, I think it might be called.

And is it almost is the Rudy's almost in a just I'm so sorry. I'm so bad with geography. And now L.A. where everybody talks about all the roads and everything. I can't remember them that well. But like was this Rudy's kind of like in a triangle shaped lot or something like kind of wedged between a couple of roads?

Yes. Yes. That's I think you it's basically you it's like you sort of jump. I can't we're almost doing the Californians.

Except like except except I. is it a is it a brownish area with points like i can't even describe it but it's just funny that

you and i both had our absolute like worst like uh and and for me really only seriously bad even though i talk about getting by the way i got a haircut scheduled for later today andrew so get ready for some content tomorrow but um but it's funny that we both had weird experiences at that particular one because that was the one when i lived down there that and i was just absolutely shocked because i really felt like we were just making small talk and the person cutting my hair she was like i can stop this haircut right now and it was like i was genuinely perplexed like you know sometimes if you're getting into with someone you can feel the tension rising maybe

There's, I don't know, politics or just there's just something going on where you're kind of you're aware that there is a level of tension going on. And then there are those times where it's just out of absolute left field. I had no idea I had said something that had really irked this person.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I've had that feeling as an adult. I remember being a kid and getting in trouble and being like, this time I really didn't know I was doing something wrong.

Well, thanks to our donors who we irk on a daily basis and yet they continue supporting the program. hello and welcome to top story um how about this for a top story andrew we got a merch store now over there at tbtl.net slash shop and um stuff is selling like hot cakes but i want to just take a moment to shout out our very first ever customer that is the person who put in the first order i don't even think the show was live like i don't think we'd even published the podcast yet but our friend listener Kalina was poking around the website and made purchase number one and this I asked John to to check in with Kalina to see if it would be all right for me to shout her out and this is what she said of course I was on the Taylor Swift merch shop and it crashed which made me remember that the TBTL shop is open so the boys won this round the stuff on the shop is perfect it's super affordable I hope everyone checks it out so I guess what I would say is When the Taylor Swift site crashes, we're right here waiting for you. We are in no danger of crashing the TBTL merch shop due to just massive demand. So we'll be here, we'll be functional, we'll be drop shipping you all that cool TBTL merch, which I'm surprised we just got during the show, Andrew, we just got an update from John about kind of, cause he can see everything that's been selling. And it's pretty curious, I'm pretty curious, people love the TBTL 10 sticker. Our most sold item so far And then No Mountain Too Tall Hoodies are going fast No Mountain Too Tall t-shirts The podcast Tile art sticker That's you and me and the little rowboat I see right sure the hoodie The TBTL 10 hoodie is popular Zero sales of the Luke Burbank t-shirt

And that It doesn't say that But it's not in the top 5 though

Not I don't think it's even in the top 10 That's okay that's alright I will tell you that I got kind of excited today because I saw our account reposting our friend Navia, who's a prolific TikToker and Realer and friend of the show. And what I saw was, I think, you know, our account was reposting something Navia did and it said, help her out. And she's doing that youthful thing where they're sitting in like a room, but behind them is like a picture of something else. This is not something I know how to make happen for any of the videos that I make ever. but um it was a uh it was the picture of the t-shirt of me and i thought that navia was saying to everyone this is the coolest t-shirt i've ever seen but really what she was saying was i don't know which shirt to buy why don't you why don't you help vote on this and it just so happened that the thing behind her by coincidence was the t-shirt of me i thought it was going to be her saying this is amazing i can finally get a t-shirt with a drawing of luke burbank on it that was in

fact not what was i think that she said she was kind of unfamiliar with the music of jeff tweede

because that's not i didn't watch any once i realized that it wasn't about me i next did the

video immediately that was it i by the way this is this reminds me of something i'm going to do that maybe i i feel like i want to promote this what's today tuesday yeah so if you're not already signed up for the tbtl newsletter and i mean if you're not already signed up i don't know i don't know how many people are out there that are just like waiting for something to get them to sign up for the newsletter but if that is you i think i'm doing something this week that might push you over the edge nudity i am not nudity but almost as embarrassing for me luke i was watching okay here i'm going to use my first lebitard show reference of the show okay um my one shit um uh one of the one of the kind of host producers of the lebitard show her name is lucy and she goes to all these um college football games and it's like kind of a whole thing they make content out of it for the podcast and for the youtube page but it always begins with her doing her fit checks on tick tock and instagram so like this last weekend coincidentally she happened to be here in seattle for for the u-dub game um and so she was like kind of showing off i got my i got my you know huskies sweatshirt on i got you know we've all seen the fit checks even old man walsh has seen a fit check or two by the young people on um on social media and what i've decided i told these i'm like i'm gonna make a fit check and video and she said actually that would be great and it occurred to me i do have a fit luke that i put on every night for playing darts and drinking beer and just puttering and it's always the same tonight pants and the same tonight shirt that is becoming literally red bear um how does vives keep her hands off you um very easily incredibly i mean easier by the day um and uh i have shoe and so i am going to straight up do my tonight close yes for the video it is going to be so embarrassing and i think i'm i'm not 100 sure on this because this is the part that's going to drive me the most bananas i feel like i might have to position my phone up and down for this just to be right because oh you don't like that no and oh and youtube does not go up and down it goes left to right it's landscape style right so it'll have big black bars on each side of it which drives me bananas to even think about but it seems weird to do a fit check in a landscape mode right all the kids do it on tiktok everyone no one uses landscape

isn't it weird how like landscape mode seems like it's so much better because you're maximizing the aspect ratio of things and yet it is only old people that care about landscape mode it's you

me and bean baxter yes well i mean for youtube especially i don't want to get too far into this because i know that youtube is is has something called youtube shorts now that is trying to like compete with like the tiktok thing so that does not use landscape mode but for the most part when you go to youtube and that's what we use to publish our videos like it is landscape mode so in this like for what we do we should be doing landscape mode see but i've been kind of going

i mean i i you know me i'm the kind of young cool one on the show i have found myself going and probably much to your annoyance when i submit the video to you sometimes going up and down on the video just because of convenience factor or something i haven't seen any of those maybe not maybe i've been keeping it maybe it's more like stuff for other things i'm doing but like i guess to me it's it's weird how the it's weird how kind of like a visual can kind of indicate to you so much about what someone is is i mean this is not anything profound but it's like i literally identify the up and down filming and even those bars on the side as being something a younger person does in the way that we've talked about how like so many videos are just cut off randomly like in a way that seems completely haphazard like there's a haphazardness to all of it that indicates to me that somebody who's much more youthful and in touch made this. And the other thing that now they all get, like you don't have this on, you probably have a version of this on your phone, but because you're Android, I only recently learned how to record content off of my screen on my phone. You know, there's a button. And for years, particularly during the pandemic, I was seeing so many clips on TikTok that people had just done this same thing. So, in other words, they're, like, recording something on their phone, recording something, and then they have to sweep down this other screen, and then you have to stop the recording. Kind of a control panel, if you will. I didn't know what that was until three weeks ago. And I had watched a thousand videos where people were doing this, and I was always like, what the hell are they doing?

That little glitch at the end where you see their screen. That little glitch at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because, of course, to me, it's like if I was going to do that and then post a video, what I would do is I would go. Yeah, I'd clip it. I'd go back into edit function, and I would edit my video I had made so that you don't see me swiping down my screen and hitting end recording. Because that feels like, that just feels like why would I have some loose end hanging off the end of this? But see, that's not the mentality of somebody who's 18 and just like, whatever, you know, grabbing something off their phone and then wanting to share it with the world. So there's, it's like there's a haphazardness that you and I don't tend to go towards, but that really indicates that we are in fact old.

I'm gonna play something for you That is now we're just getting really off track. I actually had some things I want to tell you about the merch store, but maybe I can save them for tomorrow. But I do appreciate everybody going there and checking out what we have to offer. John Sklaroff really did do a great job of designing a bunch of shirts along with some listeners. And I will say, Luke, I think you must have seen the little video that he posted on Instagram stories. And I assume TikTok announcing it. Oh, I reposted it. Yeah, with the Taylor Swift.

Well, that's where the number one merch store for people that can't get their Taylor Swift merch.

That's right. But I wanted to play for you this. And again, I don't know that this is going to pay off. But our friend Aaron Roden texted me and Genevieve something yesterday that he was very excited about to learn kind of from a homeowner standpoint or somebody who does a lot of projects. And we were driving when we heard his text message. And I thought it was hilarious. So is that whole like whatever text to speech? Yes. And I just I don't have the whole thing here. Just the first 13 seconds. Let me see if the volume is on this.

Aaron Roden said, hey, this is important. I just found out that you can take any old paints and stains to the Sherwin-Williams in Shoreline on 152nd and Aurora and recycle it for F-R-E.

That was it. I just love the F-R-E. He just wrote free in all caps with a whole bunch of E's, and I love the robot saying F-R-E.

pay off it did pay off because it allows me to tell you my sherwin williams story andrew which is the uh i bought a bunch of paint for the painting of the inside of the house and the guy who's doing the drywall said just tell him just tell him it's uh you're you're buying this for a project that big mike is doing i went down there i went into the show i was like there's no way this is going to work because he has like some kind of like business discount because he's you you know buys a lot of paint there and i just went into the sherwin williams in town and i was like yeah i'm buying five gallons of white interior paint i go big mike is doing the job they're like yeah okay and then he's like sold me the paint at a discount so now anybody can do that anybody who's anybody who wants to come down here to southern washington and try to rip off the sherwin williams in longview i guess you know have at it i you know that cool i just i couldn't it was it felt like okay i do live near small towns like i do live near a place where that works I love that.

Yeah, I love that it's Big Mike, too.

Well, okay, I want to clarify a little bit. Oh, no. I'm using, that's what we call him. It's technically a different, I mean, you know.

So you actually use the person's name. It's not a nickname.

I used the name of the business.

I was hoping that you literally go in and just say, and I took the fun out of it by asking follow-up questions.

I'm trying to get a discount on paint. that's how you always yeah that's what you're always plotting for is cheaper paint anyway we

probably have some top stories to do not really oh okay if you don't want to i just felt bad because i feel like i'm the one who's just like leading us astray so i was trying to do you a favor there

no actually here this is kind of a weird story um there was a a plane it's a cargo plane but still a plane was taking off from atlanta and going i think to iceland and it was a cargo plane that had, among other things, a horse on it, and the horse escaped, and they had to turn around and go back, and I think they might have landed in New York or something. This is the call from the pilot about the loose horse.

I landed 4592, guys. Yes, sir. We are a cargo plane. We have live animal horse on board the airplane, and the horse managed to escape his stall. We don't have a problem flying-wise, but we need to return back to New York. We cannot get the horse back secure.

Atlanta 4592, Roger, you are cleared to Kennedy via radar vectors. For now, fly your present heading. Descend and maintain flight level 220.

It's sort of like Sully with very low stakes.

Yeah, sort of. Instead of very high stakes, depending on the mood of this horse.

I would have just let it wander around let's keep going to Iceland and just I mean what's the horse gonna do

I mean it could freak out I mean I don't know if you've ever seen the movie The Black Stallion starring Mickey Rooney it's called The Black Stallion but the one I'm talking about stars Mickey Rourke oh god that one is

that one takes a real turn

no actually thank you for helping stall there the movie I'm thinking of is The Ring the American where the person climbs out of the tv or something out of the well they there is some staticky tv imagery i believe but i believe the scary character emerges from a well quite a bit oh yeah yeah it also lives in a barn i want to say there's a lot there's some horse related stuff in there and that movie terrified me i i'm talking about the ring the first part but but the american adaptation whenever that came on the early 2000s vives and i went to see that in the theater it scared the living tweedle out of me but one of the most horrifying moments was when the horses started freaking out on a ferry boat luke and yes i call a ferry boat i didn't know that i was

thinking of see i'm thinking of more the black stallion starring mickey rooney where a kid is on like a steamer ship or something and there's a horse there's a black stallion on there and the ship sinks and the kid is about to drown and the horse actually swims to this island and the kid kind of hangs on to the horses like maine the horse kind of saves the kid's life and then the kid and the horse live on the island together and then he starts riding the horse and then eventually somehow they get rescued and then i think he rides it in like the some big race and mickey rooney's the trainer well i didn't say i wasn't going to watch it lemon which is actually interesting casting because um because mickey rooney is also the trainer of the horse the pie in the movie national velvet uh starring elizabeth taylor which is a very good movie and has no

racism that i can tell from mickey rooney which yeah after watching breakfast at tiffany's i mean

it's honestly it's like i'm i have an instinctive recoiling from the work of mickey rooney i think I mentioned this to you on the show.

the show the other day um but at some point i would love it if you and veeves did a deep dive on the time when the rainier beer company hired mickey rooney an older yeah you mentioned this yeah to do a bunch of truly unhinged television ads and i'm talking about a series like and he's he's kind of selling it like he's actually doing a pretty good job but it was like it was must have been in the early 80s and i'm sure mickey rooney was hard up for cash And they were like, okay, let's write a bunch of these kooky ads and put Mickey Rooney in them.

And it's funny that it's so regional, right? So kind of local slash regional, yet here is this, you know, even at that time, I guess you would say certainly a national star, if not an international star.

Sticking out your G-at for the Rooney.

That's right. That's how he talked. You're so skippity.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man. It's not from a female.

all rightly oh i've got a email for you oh i got an email for you sir is this the same one that i

was about to read to you is it a long one is no epic journey that includes pictures because i am so excited to share this with you okay why don't you share that with me what do you well what do

you got what are you working with over there i've got somebody and i'm just you hearing me tap dance as i log into the tbtl email account it's basically just somebody who told me something that you also told me andrew and i'm i'm a bit embarrassed you might even say chagrined um that i didn't figure this out but you know the hey dummies video from last week was me trying to test out this little propeller kind of engine thing that i had bought from like a tick talk shop or something which involves a you light a little fire underneath it and and and then the heat from the fire uh you know turns this mechanism and then it spins this propeller it's supposed to anyway and and i got it comes with this little jar there's actually a very cute little glass jar with a wick in it and i was lighting that wick on fire going this doesn't work for in fact on the video i do that and then you pointed out and also uh a listener and now i'm trying to get to this person's name we've heard from several people on

this too i think like people commented on the on the youtube video as well so you can oh okay that

gives you any cover on that that several i think a lot of people okay so i'm seeing um uh somebody named karina said you need to have liquid candle oil in there yeah there were a lot of people who uh who were explaining to me the very obvious thing that i'm just embarrassed that i didn't uh that it didn't occur to me it was probably even in the video that i saw you know promoting this thing in the first place of course an empty glass bottle or like a tiny glass jar with just a wick like what was i how was i not realizing that that needed to have fuel in some sort of little

fuel in there but i thought there was another issue with it that you told me about on the show i really loved that video by the way of you showing off your toy i thought it was really cute um and i told you via text i love the sound that the propeller makes so as it tick tick tick tick

Well, there we go. Now, in case people were taping that newsletter, good news, I got it started.

That's right. I told you I didn't want to spoil it before we released it, but you did get it to work. But also, you had said on the show that you had broken some glass and it had cut you and had drawn blood. What part had broken? The back part of it? The glass part that's behind the propeller?

the wick itself when it came in the mail the wick was actually there was a a glass tube that was housing the wick if that makes sense just like a lid sort of nope no a tube so imagine a straw coming out of that little that little jar that whatever you want to call that thing that the wick is in yeah there was like a straw coming out of it that was glass and very very fragile and And that straw had the wick going through the middle of it. Oh, interesting. So that you, and, but in trying to kind of, I don't know, finagle it, I just like shattered the little, the little glass tube straw thing.

Like an appendage on that little jar.

An appendage sticking out of that little jar. And I broke that and that is what cut my thumb.

And so without that appendage, then that, that jar has a hole in it. And so you couldn't have put fuel in there. You'd have to tape it up or something.

well andrew to keep the to keep the amazing content going no it has a little it has a little housing inside the glass that is still blocked like it's it's still sealed it's hard to explain but it is still sealed i don't know why they had that glass thing maybe for looks i don't think the glass thing was totally necessary um although probably would have made it better and instead i just broke the whole thing and uh and and ruined it but but i'm still excited because i can just light a fire under it with my with my barbecue lighter it does its thing um so i

took that i mean i i really drilled down on some details there and you're right that that was not super useful to the listener having said that we have an email from a listener here and i'm trying to figure out if i'm allowed to use their name yeah i think so so this is from listener kelly and this is an amazing story that is going to make up for all the bad content that i've created today i was going to tell you luke i need some sort of music underneath this but you know what i still have here because i pulled this up before is a mission impossible music and this might actually may work yeah i can work with this i think this is the right intensity for what i want to share with you there's kind of a longer email let's take our projects that we know we can't do and do them so this is from listener kelly who says as much as i'd like to jump on the trend of singing this story under the voicemail line i can barely wrap my brain around the fact that this happened much less put it into song format. So here's an email. I work part time as a caregiver to an elderly gentleman with dementia. He and his wife live in a very nice part of the city. Houses around there are in the millions. It is also on a walking path that is heavily traveled and frequented by anyone who likes to run or walk. A few months ago, a co-worker claimed that she found poop in the side yard of the home off the walking path next to the house in the driveway where it's surrounded by arborvitae, Luke's favorite tree. I added that part. We kept telling her it was probably just an animal. Coyotes aren't uncommon in the area. But then she pointed out the toilet paper. She was also... It's very hard to get a coyote to use toilet paper. Trust me, we've tried. She's also the only one to have ever Find this so people were skeptical Of the story I was the only person Who had ever even heard of anyone doing this Thanks to TBTL And I suggested that it might be a runner Since we're so close to the

Wasn't that in Colorado That person that was We've had a few stories over the years There was the high school principal Who was pooping on the opposing school's track That's bananas But there was also the rogue pooper of Colorado who had been caught on, I think, a few kind of like ring cameras who had been jogging around, I think, a pretty tony neighborhood and just going to the bathroom randomly.

So as Kelly's co-worker is reporting this discovery, Kelly's got that on her mind a little bit, right? And Kelly says, every so often, more poop and more toilet paper would be found, but not consistently and not by anyone other than my co-worker. Last month, we moved a motion-sensitive camera to be able to see the area. I see. They kind of adjusted the motion-sensitive camera so that it would be pointing at this area. It was mostly triggered by cats and birds for weeks. That's it. No mad pooper until last week. Oh, my goodness. The wife checked the camera. I believe this is the wife of the man that Kelly and her coworkers are caring for. The wife checked the camera in the afternoon, remembering that she had heard it triggered early in the morning, around 8 a.m. or so. All caps. It was a woman pooping in the yard. Wow. She looked more than middle age, but less than elderly, had on exercise pants, sunglasses, headphones. She walked in, dropped trow, pooped, wiped, then threw the teepee on the ground and left. There's more to this email, Luke. But before I continue, I am going to forward this email to you. Please. To your personal.

Poop-de-doo-boop-scoop.

Ooh. Account. Ooh, that was actually pretty good. That really matched the music, too. Because I want you to see the photos that I'm about to describe from Kelly's email here. So you've now got this coming into your inbox. When I saw myself pooping, I was just like, you've got to be kidding me.

We have a lot of poop-related drops, it turns out.

Yeah, you think. So back to Kelly's email. She's saying that they caught this woman on camera. She walked in, dropped trowel, pooped, wiped, threw the teepee on the ground, and left. The wife typed up a sign. Her original was 13 pages long because she wanted the font to be so big. But I got her to reduce the content and font to just three pages, which we put into page protectors and posted to the trees at the entrance of the yard.

And by the way, when I went, posted to the trees doesn't mean uploaded it to a blog called The Trees. No, like thumbtacked them to the trees. Yes, so picture this.

These are eight and a half by 11 pieces of paper printed out. I'm going to read from this photo that was sent. They're slipped into these plastic coverings and these three pages read.

attention this is not a public restroom note to pooper you have been spotted on security cameras not only are you trespassing but contaminating private property you will be arrested if this behavior continues now those are the three pages of text but there's a fourth page that is also tacked to these trees and it is a screen cap from the video of this woman wearing her stretchy pants and hoodie just about to bend over her it's not it's not filthy like her she's fully clothed here she's not doing the deed but she's clearly about to do the deed or just finish doing the deed i'm guessing about to and her you can see her face not totally clearly she's wearing sunglasses and she's sort of looking down so the camera's sort of seeing mostly the top of her head but you can i mean if you knew this person you would be able to identify this person like this sometimes you wear stretchy pants in your room he's for fun this shit if you literally the word is hugely public shaming if the i mean i cannot imagine the feeling of the i mean first of all i can't put myself in the head of the pooper anyway who has both the confidence and the the fuck it all to do this like i can't even imagine being that person but now i'm trying to figure out you're that person and you use this trail somewhat regularly, now you see this signage next to a photo of you about to partake in this activity. I want, I mean, Kelly, for the love of God, any follow-ups, any follow-ups at all,

please let us know. Because if you walk past this thing and you see yourself, you're immediately taking the photo away, but then you're on camera taking the photo away. Didn't they post another photo of you taking the photo of yourself away from the area? I thought it was when I was you know a teen and And going you know had a car and I would go get teriyaki all the time I used to I remember that the teriyaki place I would go to in you village if you wrote a bad check there They would take the bad check and they would blow it up And then like he has an enlarge it and then post it like behind the register I don't know why you have a lot of teriyaki talk on the show today or this week rather But like I used to see those luckily I didn't ever have one up there, but I thought oh that's some public shaming

that's got nothing on this yes and then um so not only do we see the photo of the aka mad pooper or i guess not aka in that case the so-called mad pooper um we see it attached to the tree but also kelly sent us the actual screen cap that was printed and i think this is really interesting again um you know this is a woman probably in her maybe um late 50s early 60s i'm guessing you know it's hard to tell um but what i find interesting is in her hoodie she's got those little pockets like right in the front like where her belly is and you can see a wad of clean toilet paper sticking out from it like she knows what she's doing like she's leaving the house knowing this is a possibility

now what i really and this is kelly where your job gets hard what i need i need some more details on the consistency of the of the number two and the reason is because if it is um if let's just say if things seem to be fairly intact if things as george brett once said a perfect double tapered then we know that this person was very unlikely to be in gastro intestinal distress like i want to know was this did this look like something someone could have held in or does this look like a situation and i tend to think if this person did this a couple of times and if they brought their their own toilet paper like i it doesn't because you know people find themselves in a in a in unfortunate situations with with uh you know having to go to the bathroom but this just doesn't sort of read that way to me this doesn't seem like a person who just had a an attack of uh you know of liquid bowels this is somebody who kind of seems like they planned this out what yeah because

i mean sorry to cut you off but i mean look at the ground in this like kind of quasi wooded area like if it was and i apologize this is going to get really graphic but i mean when we're trying to solve a mystery what do you want like if it was like if it was not solid then it would kind I mean I'm not saying that it would totally just disappear but it would be much less noticeable it's sure that's like this co-worker has found what sounds like some something of recognizable to be somebody went number two several times it sounds like several times at least with toilet paper like this is planned poopage yeah like I'm pretty worked up well

and it's just it's just so mystifying to me because i can't think of i can't think of anything that would be less pleasant than you know this is part of why i like i didn't like camping as a kid if you were like way out there where there were no you know pit toilets like i can't think of anything i would be trying to avoid more than going number two on a walk the fact that you you would kind of build it into your day is just shocking to me.

you'd have the toilet paper ready to go like is there i remember seeing a tick tock video that somebody made where it was like um you know kind of a younger couple maybe in their 20s or something and they were in their i guess i want to say apartment or something and their apartment or their house it kind of was on the edge of this like little parkway and what they started noticing was that this couple this older couple would take a walk around this park every day and the man would be doing these kind of like arm exercises and at some point the woman would wander off and drop her pants and go number two into the bushes and like the one the woman making the video had noticed this one day and thought maybe it was an aberration but then it just started happening on the day and they realized this was this woman's ritual like she would do this every day and then she got this woman got her boyfriend her husband over to watch and he was shocked

everybody was shocked yeah and like again like we're big fans of extending grace on this show I think I mean but but truly we are and often but we're trying to build in more pranks but we're also trying to build in more pranks we're gonna get Sklar off so hard this afternoon the poop in his yard anybody lives in the Twin Cities area and has to go to the bathroom get at me I have a I have a mission for you you know I remember and I'm sure I've told you this story on the show before. I worked for my dad as, you know, kind of a part time employee in Cleveland, Ohio at this metal fabrication shop. Right. And as a young person, I would pop in on a Saturday every now and then maybe like do some mopping or filing some big blueprints of machines, whatever. I had various tasks that I would do, but it was always kind of sporadic work until one summer when I was in high school and me and my dad were living together near the shop and I needed, you know, like income. I think my, my first summer working for him, I worked four hours in the morning and then had my afternoons free. It was perfect. I had a little bit of extra income. I could work in the morning and then go spend that money on used CDs in the afternoon. It was a pretty good setup. Um, I remember my very first day of work, uh, of this like more regimented system. Like I was an employee. I was officially a part-time employee. We showed up to work that day. I think guy showed up my dad got there earlier and I'm sitting in his office and it's a little bit odd because he's both now at this point my boss and my dad right but the workday hasn't officially started the foreman comes in Mr. Deesner Rich Deesner comes in and uh he's like did you see what's out in the parking lot which nerds Deesner it's not a show title okay I don't want my dad to hear this no this doesn't um this doesn't paint my dad in a bad light but anyway um i don't remember if my dad had seen it or if rich told him about it but either way somebody had pooped in the in like kind of the small parking lot in front of the building where there's like four spots for cars or something somebody had apparently pooped i had not seen it but it was complete with a bit of paper in there whether it's toilet paper it was probably tissue paper you know probably like a kleenex or something from a car and i remember it was my very first day of work and rich came in and my dad was just like they were talking about it and talk about extending grace their their reaction was not like what son of a gun did this but i believe my dad's actual phrase was what poor son of a bitch had to do this you know what i mean like who was driving down the street and realized i've run out of options in the middle of the night and i have to do this here in front of a steel fab shop on Triscuit Avenue, you know, like no, like I liked that his initial reaction was sympathy. I didn't like that. His second reaction was seriously turning to me and

saying, that's your first job. Get to it. And I had to go get a flathead shovel and clean it up.

Let me ask you this. Do you think Bob Walsh actually coordinated that whole thing to teach you an important lesson about the value of hard work? That would be amazing. And to keep you out

the steel fabrication business this is no place for you kid that's right he's like go into broadcasting

go into podcasting next time you visit cleveland will you ask him if he actually had like his friend lenny do that not lenny samosky right just a lenny not i just i assume most of the people from

that part of ohio named lenny or potentially himself you know like he would get into work at like 5 36 in the morning i'm rolling in at eight o'clock just shotgun a couple cups of black coffee get everything moving get everything working anyway this is an amazing story from kelly oh anyway so back to the point of extending grace like the fact that this has happened on the reg that this person is clearly leaving home with tissue at the ready or toilet paper at the ready like this if it was a one-time gastric distress situation i think there would be a lot more sympathy but like i think that this is clearly out of the realm of that this is somebody who thinks that this is okay and like but but But again, so she's planning it into her walk. She's like, you know, this is a good spot, you know, midway through my walk. I just, that's when nature calls. But it's, do you think, my question is, do you think she's getting enjoyment from it? Is this a kink in some way? Because it just seems-

No, I don't think so.

It just, it's so odd to me that you wouldn't just hold it. Like, I'm just, I have so many questions, but I am hoping also, Kelly, that the camera is still trained on that whole situation now. So if this person then comes up and observes their own photo, I'd love to see that evidence as well.

That would be amazing.

She's gonna, I mean, she's, listen, she's, they always return to the scene of the crime. This is now her spot. She's used it a few times. She's gonna come back. She's marked it. She's going to, she's gonna, you know, one day without even realizing she's gonna wander in there ready for her little regularly scheduled appointment and she's going to see these signs and these printouts and she's going to be utterly shocked i'd love to see the look on her face when

she realizes they're on to her when you're exercising do you have to go to the bathroom can you associate with that as a phenomenon you're outside maybe in kind of a woody area where there aren't a lot of people maybe you get i've described you that feeling i get if i'm like sneak when i was a kid if i was like sneaking around and playing hide and go seek or something like that I would immediately have to go to the bathroom there's something about sneaking around that makes me have to go to the bathroom so I'm like nervous energy or something yeah it's kind of weird and it's same with I mentioned this on the show just in passing without explaining and I saw some comments and some comment section being like what in the world is Andrew talking about but there's a phenomenon and I definitely am susceptible to this of like being in a bookstore or a library sure uh it definitely makes me have to go to the bathroom I had to use the bathroom

It was just number one, but in a Barnes and Noble a while ago, and I was like, and I'm telling you, man, there was a line. I was like, this place, this activates people.

This place is hopping. So anyway, can you associate with that, like maybe you're running on some path that is a little bit secluded? Do you feel like I need to use the restroom?

Luckily, I generally don't. I've had a couple times, like literally a couple times in my life, I've had some stomach discomfort while jogging that has necessitated me just ending the jog. because the running was kind of churning my guts in a way that was not going to be okay by the end of the run. And in that case, you know, sort of like, stop, walk a few blocks and then try it again. And it's like, nope, it's back. So now we're just walking the rest of this. I've had that happen a couple of times, but there's not, I don't, I have so little desire to ever relieve myself of number two in the woods. I find, again, I have some pretty like, some pretty like formative memories of being a kid and camping and like you know being like well where do i go to the bathroom my dad being you go over to that log and you pull your pants down and you sit over that log and you bring the toilet paper and that's where you do it and i just remember being i was i was kind of a shy kid about that stuff anyways so i just i remember hating that so much no who knows i mean a different kind of kid maybe there's a certain liberation there it's like i can just shit

anywhere hello mother nature no i'm i'm the type of kid who never like when i would travel even on vacation or whatever like we i think that i didn't go to the bathroom for long periods of time and not to the point where it felt uncomfortable i just sort of realized a pattern later that like i i don't know if i was a shy pooper but my body just sort of shut that down until i was like at home in a more comfortable place or something and now when i travel i don't have those same issues But like I I've never been exercising. I know that I don't have that great of a sample size, but I've never been exercising and needed to go. Number two, like for some reason, we're like when my body is in that physical mode, unless something was, you know, gastrically wrong with me, like something I ate acted up or something.

Drastically gastrically wrong.

Oh, my God.

I know you don't like to go towards that stuff.

No, I love that because I can picture it being like some sort of a Saturday morning cartoons, like the gastric, what did you say? Drastically gastrically wrong. Yes, exactly. I could see a little egg dancing around with a top hat singing that song. But anyway, yeah, so some people it must activate and other people, I think, like that type of activity shuts it down a little bit more.

Yeah. Well, that's an amazing story from Kelly with the visual aids as well. I assume we're using that picture of that woman for the show.

We're going to zoom in. we're going to enhance, enhance, enhance. No, I feel like that would be somewhat irresponsible. That might be.

I mean, listen, I'm not, yeah, not to defend anyone who's publicly defecating when they don't absolutely have to, but yeah, that might be a little extreme.

I mean, do you want me to use the, like, I could take that photo, just focus on the signs, and then blur out her face, or just not include her at all?

I feel like I don't want to withhold, I mean, I let out an audible gasp when I saw that. I don't think we should deprive the list. And I don't think blurring the woman's face will ruin anything. I think, yeah, but, but, but, But leave in so that people can see sort of her body language and her outfit and everything. Yes. And that's okay?

I would totally vote for that. And I think the signs are fascinating.

Okay, yeah.

Oh, by the way, Caroline, listener Caroline, is the person who is, no, Caroline is also somebody who was giving me good advice on how to make my little perpetual motion airplane thing work. I just wanted to credit the people I noticed who were all saying, put some fuel in that thing, you dingus. Some sort of fuel.

Yeah, I don't know. Like, I would maybe use lighter.

what are people suggesting as hard as no one's a candle oil or something so i i may mess with that later i like i said i've got a kind of a busy week ahead of me so when when i'm uh when i'm back from all of that next week maybe i'll have time to start start figuring out fuel sources but anyway thanks to everybody who emailed on emailed in on that all right uh i guess it's gonna wrap it up for today um i gotta get that rental truck back like literally right now i'm gonna get charged for another day um so i'll do that i know you and i have a meeting later today andrew uh so we'll see you for that and uh the rest of the listeners will see us tomorrow with more imaginary radio when we bring it to them so please hang out with us on wednesday in the meantime have a great tuesday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good Good luck to all.