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well all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a wednesday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live it's your lucky day you just found a usb flash drive in the parking lot my name is luke bermank i am your host oh hey y'all said my name coming to you from the madrona hill studio perched high above the mighty columbia where it is still raining just a little bit it's a bit damp out there but um didn't know you like to get wet though the forecast for the pacific northwest and specifically the greater seattle area where i'm gonna be is for some sunny days. I was reading today in the paper, it is like the third time in the last, I don't know, 50 years that there's no precipitation predicted for Thanksgiving. And that will come in handy because if you were following yesterday's show, I was still trying to decide how I was going to get over the river and through the hills to my parents' house for Thanksgiving. And in fact, I am going to drive now. I'm an excellent driver. A decision I may regret. We will find out together. But anyway, at least it's not going to be raining, so that'll be kind of nice. This is going to be a kind of nice episode of TBTL. It's episode 4080 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. And we are going to finally find out once and for all, me and Andrew, if we're boomers or millennials with our work lingo. We're going to take a quiz to find that out. LOL. Laugh out loud. OMG. Oh, my God. WTF. Why the face? And David Letterman has returned to the Ed Sullivan Theater and The Late Show for the first time since he left that stage.

I'm back. I've returned.

There was kind of a surprising backstory to the whole thing that I was not aware of until I read an article about it in the New York Times. So we will get to that time permitting. We'll definitely have time for this fella. He's the longest running co-bro of the show.

Oh, my God. He unmuted!

Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace, their splendor. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I promise you, I think this is going to pay off. Because I don't know if this is where you want to start the show right now. We have to talk about your holiday travels and everything. But I got a text message today that blew my mind regarding a topic we've been talking about, arguably too much on the show, certainly in the minds of some listeners. But it's that dang slang word giat, right?

We talk, we've been dissecting it. I believe I, I think I assigned a child to find out the origin of that word for us yesterday on the show.

My friend, I think we have closure and the closure is blowing my mind. Okay. Whoa. So I got some text messages from people who were like, didn't you just go to like Urban Dictionary? It clearly says here giat just means like good, something that's fine, something that's awesome. It's like a, you know, a saying that means excessive approval. That was my twist on it. And I'm like, yeah, no, I did see that. But also the New York Times was out there saying that it means derriere or one's bottom, if you don't speak French. And then we're hearing from all kinds of like people with kids and kids themselves saying, yeah, it means it means. But here's here's a note I got from Shea. Giat does mean rear, and according to my online Gen Z granddaughter, before clarifying, she laughed at me, or maybe she was laughing with me. But anyway, I'm like, okay, so I'm hearing on the street, I'm out there on the street, I'm hearing giat means butt. I'm going online, it says it means fine. Then we get a text message this morning from listener Kayla in Stockton, who chimes in on these things from time to time. Kayla works with kids. Kayla's got an 11-year-old son. And she wrote to me and said, Giat is butt. Now, are you sitting down on your Giat? Yes. It's short for Giat Damn, which is how someone would pronounce God damn while looking at a butt. That makes sense.

Sticking at your Giat for the Rizzler.

And I'm sorry that people had to hear those words coming out of my mouth. I should have given a trigger warning.

He is a straight man, and he thinks that the idea and the concept of butt-chugging is absolutely repulsive. I just want to clarify that. Yeah, the butt-chugging thing. I am 100% on board with this explanation from Kayla. That that's why online it means, like, yeah, good, something that's good. But that's like a very anodyne way of saying, god damn.

And it kind of, it sort of, it means everyone's right in a way, because the word itself does not mean a derriere, but it at some point has sort of taken that on. It's been, let's just say, transubstantiated into, and I do believe that is exactly how you use that word.

Finally, somebody using it properly. And when he said that, that shocked me.

but um like so yeah it's basically like it's not meant for derriere but it's been used adjacent to it long enough that now it's kind of shorthand for it but it also would make sense if someone didn't have it in that context so it's sort of like everyone's kind of right like that salt really solves the mystery i think that's i mean it was the missing guillot is how i look at it

that is show title possibly but i know that we're going to be talking more about uh language later on in the show so i don't want to spoil that but i had to get that off my chest i'm so excited I'm so excited about that.

You know what I need to, just to kind of try to take that all in, I need a shot of ginger right now. So here we go.

I think it's something funny to say, because you laugh at my jokes after you drink the ginger.

Woo!

Boy, spicy. Too much pressure.

That is really spicy. By my count, you have one left. Andrew, you've been scoring at home. I do have one left, and I cannot get to it, even if I were to want to have it, Andrew, because, and this is something that I did not really think through, I have essentially no access to my house right now, which includes the one bathroom that is currently functional at this house because they are painting and they're painting the kind of main what's what's going to be the living room. And it's a very open concept in there. So it's like the living room and then where the kitchen is going to be. It's all kind of one big room and it's all getting painted, but they have masked off all of the doorways. so like I like with like you know plastic and tape so I can't get to the bathroom the guy just told me very nicely by the way I love these guys that are doing the drywall and the painting they were like okay anything else you need from the kitchen because we're masking it off and then it's just going to be kind of no go so I was like I was like uh an artichoke uh I don't half and half like I just felt like paddle ball game yeah what like I don't this is a lot of pressure to figure out what i might need from this kitchen for the next seven hours yeah and uh and then i was like well let me just run to the bathroom real fast and then i like took a step towards the bathroom realized it was already masked off too and i should have i should have just said hey can you take this down and i'm going to use the restroom but i felt bad yeah because i had already ruined his handiwork on the refrigerator andrew so i could get my ginger shot geez yeah so the The refrigerator is just sitting in the middle of this room, and it was all covered in plastic. And I was trying to do this thing where I tore a tiny, small hole in the plastic and then reached in to get my ginger shot. But then I couldn't open the door. And then the guy just came over and was like, I can just cut this open for you if you need me to. I was like, no, no, I'm physically able to rip this very thin visqueen. It's just I was trying to not ruin your thing. goes oh there's always more plastic don't worry about oh what a guy no i mean honestly i love these dudes but i was like i felt like that was my one kind of that was my one ruin this guy's work that i got to do and i chose ginger shot over having access to the bathroom and again he

probably would have been super chill about it based on everything i've heard so far which was just that just that 15 seconds but um god damn that guy's cool but you really kind of you can quickly get into uh do you have to go are you sure are you sure you don't have to go scenario with your contractors and that would be pretty embarrassing place that any of us want to take

the relationship and the other problem is that this is getting into the total minutiae of of drywall and things of that nature including crab rangoon but like so there is this thing that they can do where they wrap the windowsills and what that means is so first of all you put the sheet rock in and then you nail in this kind of metal kind of bracketing it's kind of v-shaped and you know it it basically creates an edge around the window and then you you know you mud it and tape it and paint it and what it means is I don't have to necessarily put trim around the windows if I don't want to because it's a finished look whereas sometimes when you do drywall and it's not finished the the way to make it look nice later is you got to come through and you got to put trim around everything, but this

particular process it's called wrapping and it's um it's kind of a nicer finish like you could still put trim on if you wanted to but you also have the option of not doing that so there's just so many different things there's doorways there's windows there's this opening that me and my dad cut into the wall that's going to be under the tv it's going to have a cabinet like a recessed little shelf in there for like for my um criterion collection dvd i did say dvd the one dvd i owed street wise which is currently at becca's house so anyway what i'm trying to say is pretty much every piece of feedback i gave mike the main drywall dude big mike the guy that you can get uh discount paint down at that sherwin williams on and now by the way you i i guess you you know his you know his uh sort of handle in town but you still don't know the exact way to get the code word yeah um i have but um it's tbtl use the code tbtl but anyway point is i i kept like he'd be like do you want this wrapped and i'd be like yes and then he would do it and then my dad would show up and my dad because like my dad's been kind of in and out of the project over the last few weeks and my dad would go why is that wrapped and i was like i thought i was supposed to have him wrapped he's like no i have to tear all of that off now so and that's happened in two different two different areas where like basically they asked me do you want to do a or b and i said like a and it was b and then what ends up happening is my dad and mike just have a good chuckle like the the real adults when it comes to construction are just kind of looking around and having a good laugh at like luke taking his best shot at advising things and generally giving the wrong advice or

the wrong feedback yeah when a contractor asks you do you want to call your dad first that's where

I literally did that yesterday, Andrew, and I make no apologies.

That is some real Kendall Roy territory there for succession heads. Hey, something just occurred to me, speaking of homes and drywall, I have a home mystery on my hands that I discovered last night, but maybe we can solve this mystery right now with one question and one answer from you. Do we need to get Big Mike out here? When you were here the other day, did you by any chance put your head through any walls or ceilings?

Not that I remember. I mean, that night that I came and you were cutting up leaves and we were burning it, I don't – there's a decent chance maybe I – That would have been – yeah, this is newer than that. I went full Jacko from the Energizer commercials from the 80s. Oi! For energy, remember me, oi!

God, I forgot about that guy.

But other than that, I believe the last time I was there, I managed to not punch or headbutt any of your drywall, but it sounds like you've got a situation.

Do you know, and I know you do, Luke, does the listener know about that part of my house where the stairs lead into the basement and the headway is ridiculously low? Like I have to cry. I mean, I do this a hundred times a day, so I don't even think about it anymore. But when you're going from the upstairs down into the basement, there's a point where you have to like kind of almost fully bend over to clear the space uh when you're going there is a very nice tufted pad on there which i appreciate seriously put up there and i ever tell you our

friend katie who listens who listens cheers uh katie i don't know what jenny was saying busting her chops about something and katie said well at least i don't have a pool noodle on my ceiling did you see i wasn't there for that but that's such a good singer i don't want to sidetrack

your story but did you see our friend katie on instagram she opened a new like savings account at a local bank and apparently what they do at this bank is they let you go in one of those cash like money machines and then everything you everything you can grab you get to put into

your savings account i think she grabbed 240 i don't trust any bank that doesn't have a whirlwind

money machine i mean it's i've never seen that before it's it's a it's kind of a genius idea it also makes me wonder if they're going to hold on to the money. You know what I mean? Like, it's a real enticement. Like, cool. I've never been in one of those things. Like, man. And also, like, 240 bucks, that's not nothing. Yeah, it's fun. But also, where'd they get that money from?

Is that Tim's money? How come every time I make a deposit, it just goes, I watch it go through a tube directly into the phone booth?

It just quips right out into the money machine. But I thought that was a very interesting kind of, what do you want to call it, enticement for people.

I did not see that. I actually need to look that up because those are the types of things that we've seen on TV our whole lives, at least our generation.

Yes, and like no one's ever done one.

Yeah, and first of all, I've never had the chance to try it. And I'm trying to figure out if it's the type of thing that there was definitely a time in my life where I thought, well, that's easy. Like I could do that so much better than these people. Now I don't trust myself. I think it actually does seem actually hard knowing a little bit more about wind than maybe I did when I was.

eight i think supposedly the trick is and i've also never been in one of those things is to like hold your shirt out because it's like this kind of an it's like an oval shaped pattern that this this air is blowing and if you create sort of like imagine you just had like a like a square piece of cardboard or something and you put it interrupting this kind of this shape of a zero then the money supposedly is going to start piling up on the surface. Well, you don't let you bring like a cardboard square in, so you use your shirt. I've heard that somewhere that think that's the pro move.

You know what I would like to do? That sounds better than what I was going to say, but I was thinking about those gloves that receivers wear in the NFL. Aren't they like really sticky these days? Yeah, they're very sticky. Like a frog's tongue, just like try to slap that money onto your palm.

There was a weird word called tachified cloeta, I think. Tachified cloeta. Let me see if that was, well, maybe there was, okay, there was, I don't know where I got the word cloeta from. The listeners will probably be able to figure out what my young brain was doing, but I had when I played football. It means cofeta.

That's a nice ass.

Cofefe. Wasn't that a different time? Yeah. Cofefe. um uh so basically like there you could buy these like when you played football you could buy these gloves that had they were tackified and they had like they were made by like franklin or rawlings or something but they had like stick them on them but that was like a for some reason i also had the word cloeta in my mind like i thought they were called like tackified cloeta but i just googled that and that doesn't seem to be a thing but what we were working with in terms of stick them compared to what these NFL receivers now have is crazy. I'm not taking anything away from them, but I do think some of those one-handed catches, which I mean are spectacular and athletic beyond any ability I would ever have, but I don't think it hurts that they're also wearing gorilla glue.

Yeah. You're telling me that if I had those gloves, I could or could not be as good as Odell Beckham Jr.

You would be better than Odell Beckham Jr. Better than probably.

Well, I'd be a better person. I don't like him very much. Okay, so to just, I guess, put a bow on this story about the mystery hole in our plaster is, I think you can see where I'm going with this, but for those who can't visualize it, because you haven't been to my home, you stalkers, to go down the stairs, you're not likely to hit your head because you can see this very low clearance right in front of you, and so you're going to bend over going downstairs. But if you're walking up the stairs and you're not thinking about it or it's not ingrained in you, it could be very easy to bonk your head going up the stairs. and bonk at something real right and um that's why Genevieve has this sort of like this small white kind of padding there that isn't too obtrusive um but and I would take a picture of this except it's I don't think it'll make a very good show pick just by the nature of what it is but last night when I was going upstairs I looked up for some reason I saw somebody and I'm guessing this was a Genevieve's party you know on Halloween and we just haven't noticed it some I mean it's Such a dome-shaped hole right in that low part of the ceiling. Somebody just missed the padding and instead put their head kind of through the ceiling or walls. Yeah, like somebody must have a headache.

Okay. Also, as far as solving the mystery, this is actually very useful because we already know that it's a person over a certain height.

Yes, although, I mean.

One of the suspects is immediately whittled down.

Literally almost. I can't think of any adult who wouldn't have to. Oh, really? Yeah. Like when you go up those stairs, you don't notice how much you have to bend over. I mean, you'd have to be.

I duck my head a little bit. But I guess I thought that there would be a person if they were like under five and a half feet or something. Like maybe they wouldn't hit their head on it.

I'll ask Veeves, but I think almost, yeah, I think you'd have to be, you know, pretty dang short as an adult to not bang your head or potentially have that much power. Like, okay, my friend Hannah Brooks Olson, she's pretty short. Like, she could maybe hit her head, but maybe she's probably not going to hit her head with so much force that it's going to go through the ceiling. So, yeah, I mean, maybe, but I don't think that.

Have you checked that basement bathroom bathtub to see if there's a body in there?

Can you hold on one second? Yeah, I can. Let me go look. Hold on, we'll edit out the space. Yes, there was a body in there, Luke. It was Hannah. Wow, shocking. I know, the one person I eliminated. Anyway, yeah, so I'm a guessing that alcohol was involved, and so maybe it didn't hurt so bad. I don't know, but somebody put their dome through the ceiling, I think. Huh, and so I guess you're going to have to patch that. I think Genevieve's going to have to patch that.

Has she ever done that kind of thing before?

Yeah, Genevieve's the patcher-in-chief. In fact, I told her, I'm like, I'd like to watch you this time. Genevieve's patching walls all the time from the big holes where you...

need to lay out the wire mesh and actually repair it to just like like she keeps patching materials by the dartboard so that when she's playing darts and she gets mad at herself for missing the dart board so much that she will make herself feel better by taking a pause and then patching up

the wall and so she's got it down to the like mudding taping sanding repainting it actually

looks pretty good yes this will be one of those the small stuff i'm talking about is just like you know when she just goes around with her tube but um yeah yeah she has done all of that with the the um because you put a metal mesh there and then you mud it up right well yeah i think it depends

i'm i'm absolutely terrible at that which is why i have big mike in there doing this stuff right now because the one time that i tried to mud and tape something myself it was um we had built a room in the basement of my first house i bought for addy and so it involved building a new wall down there and after that i you know i was i had taped the sheet the seam in the sheet rock that was going kind of um horizontally along this wall and then you mud it and then you let it dry and then you sand it you get it really smooth and then you paint it and then it just looks like a terrible gash in the wall oh no and then you sand it again and then you remud it and then it it's it's the weirdest thing between if you if you don't know what you're doing which I clearly didn't you will get it to the point where it looks flawless and then you paint it and then it exposes how shoddy your work was and that is why I've never tried to do that kind of finished work again I've always

left it to the professionals well this is okay so it sounds like that was a bigger job I'm trying to figure out again you just described it and I don't know if I want to ask for a follow-up you're you're you know you using drywall to create a new wall but what was the part that

needed to actually be sort of patched well it was you know where two pieces of sheetrock came together so imagine a big like a four by eight two four by eight sheets of sheetrock that met in the middle about waist high and ran the entire length of the wall so I was trying to cover that seam by the way this is not even a challenging project when it comes to sheetrocking I mean this is like sheet rocking 101 this is very easy for someone who knows what they're doing but i didn't and i just found it it it it remains in my mind one of the more frustrating things i tried to do because i would get it like i would sand it and it would be look so good like you know the mud would be like it would be so perfect like this is and i'd be looking at it from the side and kind of you know staring down like you know the the length of the thing and feeling it and yeah running my hand over and just being like okay we did it and then i'd roll some paint on it and it would just be exposed for how shoddy it was like god yeah god damn that's annoying was it like shinier there

sort of like the paint just like identified that as being was it just like did the paint react to it differently or did it just sort of stick out just i think it's because this is getting i'm

sorry i took us here and i and i apologize to everyone i think the thing was the mud is a kind of a kind of beige color the sheet rock is kind of a grayish color they're relatively similar in color and so it it looked okay and then when the paint got applied I don't know why it just it just showed how crappy the work and whoever relief more yeah you can see the relief like it's in stark relief yeah and whoever owns that house now on South Beacon Hill south of Graham Street um they They probably, unless they went in, I mean, I just eventually just said, well, that's going to be good enough. So unless they went in and wanted to sand it down and redo it, it's probably still down there in that basement looking shoddy.

Although coat after coat after coat of paint, eventually that's going to kind of take care of it, too. Like if I had that situation, don't you think that the first order of business, if you were a new homeowner to let's try another coat of paint or two, like thick paint? Couldn't that kind of maybe? Yeah, I don't know.

Who knows what they've what they've how they've tried to fix the problem. But Andrew, wait a second. Let me see. Let me find my, uh, do I still have my breaking news sound effect? Because we've got, well, I'll just use this instead.

Stop the show. Oh, okay. We can use that now.

This is not really breaking news, uh, for the show, but it's breaking news for the Hawk Squad. Check out this text. You got to realize there are like, I don't know, 30 to 40 people descending on my parents' house for our big family Thanksgiving. as of uh today as of five minutes ago from my dad okay guys big change of plans our hot water heater just blew out in the basement flooded basement no hot water a giant mess no kidding we have a turkey brining salmon thawing time for an alternative plan question mark question mark three exclamation points holy starfish and then god damn this is bad timing so then this is what this is you do you want to see or do you want to know the difference in my mom and dad in, much like that drywall project I did, in stark relief here, Andrew. So my dad's like, time for an alternative plan, and then everyone's saying, oh, we can bring a vacuum cleaner over, or Hannah says, we can come to my house.

This is all just happening, like, in the last couple minutes while I'm bullshitting about drywall.

This is all happening in the last five minutes. And then Hannah says, we can come over to my house. And my mom says, let's not jump the gun as far as relocating. We'll keep you all posted, because my mom wants to

still have it at their house. She really wants to push through. That's a real Luke move.

And then my dad responding, not to my mom, but in the Hawk Squad, this is not going away soon. Let's start making alternative plans. Sorry. That's Walt B. and Susie B. In a nutshell, that's both of their approaches to life.

I feel like that's Andrew and Luke, too, a little bit. In this case, I'm not competent like your father. I couldn't take care of the situation.

Well, there is also the fact that my dad is going to be the one who would have to somehow get two feet of water. You know that basement. You spent some time in that basement. i'm worried about the lunch boxes he's trying to get he's he's the one that's got to get the water out of the basement he's the one that's gonna have to find a new hot water heater the day before thanksgiving install it fill it with water oh goodness this is absolutely terrible timing this is like i mean this is like out of a movie bad i know right oh my goodness it's going to happen yeah so we're also all gonna stay there that was the big thing too you know because like i i mean i could get a hotel in fact some of the people are but i really like I like staying at my parents' house on the Wednesday night. Addie comes over, obviously, and then we get up Thursday morning.

Do you have a room that you can stay in, or how does that work?

I think I maybe would get a bed. I actually don't know. I don't have a specific place that I always sleep. It's just kind of like there's some twin beds. There's some air mattresses. There's some foam pads. It's kind of like whatever isn't being taken by everybody else. But honestly, one of my very favorite things about Thanksgiving is getting up Thursday morning, Thanksgiving morning, And then me and Addy and whoever else is hanging around, we watch the Macy's Day Parade and we just roast it mercilessly. Just go after Al Roker and his ilk and the various and the just really bad lip syncing that goes on from the various Broadway shows and the Jenny O turkey float and the whole thing. So that's like I really like staying at my folks house because I like that whole experience on Thursday morning. But this is all in jeopardy right now.

What's going on with your family is very interesting and I don't want to take away from that. Having said that, you just said something that lit up all of the sensors in my brain, and I have to talk to you about something that Genevieve pointed out to me yesterday while we were recording our podcast after these messages. You know how I do that thing where I talk quickly sometimes and I'll skip a word or I'll just say like the wrong word, but it might sound like the word I'm thinking of, but I'm talking so quickly that I don't even notice that I'm doing that? Well, I was talking about some commercial related to the Thanksgiving Day Parade, the macy's thanksgiving day parade and i called it the macy's day parade and genevieve said you mean the macy's thanksgiving day parade not the macy's day parade and i was like oh yeah i always do that she said no no everybody does that like somehow we just started calling it the macy's day parade and i think you just did it you said the macy's day parade and like like macy's day is the day we're celebrating yes i've never noticed that i thought i had just like kind of fumbled on the show which i've now done twice in my life um and uh but she's like no no it's just something that our society does because she's you know she also grew up watching that i don't think it was a big part of my tradition growing up but like she's like yeah no it's the macy's thanksgiving day parade but we just call it the macy's day parade how have i never noticed that that's a really good

point i think i've been calling it the macy's day parade and uh it's not me i will continue i will

continue to do so yeah it's the tradition andrew you do you but anyway yeah that is you're going to be very distracted as you figure because we were supposed to talk about like are you gonna get in the car now and i get sounds like you were gonna travel to your parents house traffic is gonna be a nightmare we were gonna talk about that on the show now you don't know

what the hell you're doing my guess is it will get moved to my sister's house which is about maybe 45 minutes from my parents house and hannah has a big beautiful home with lots of room to spread out so i i don't all is not lost but it is a different setup as far as like my parents house has a you know not a significant number but there's like three or four empty rooms there's a hide a bed down so just kind of like set up now for basically lots of people to crash there for thanksgiving i don't know if that's really the setup at hannah's house so i don't want to

your sister but i just knowing that we were somewhat concerned about the thanksgiving traffic i'm sorry the macy's day traffic yes um what put some respect on its name uh when you say 45 minutes away from your original destination would that work in your favor at all yes it

actually would the odds are always in my favor when going to hannah's house yeah it's actually a little bit closer to me um i think yeah and also i'm i i'm i'm gonna be really curious to see how ways decides to wend me up to that part of the world because like uh i5 is

it gets really, really bad this time of year, i.e. today. So it might send me on a bunch of back roads and along the coast and stuff, and that could actually land me over where Hannah lives as well. So it's actually not inconvenient, but you know what else is in peril then? The Burbank Family Fun Run. Oh. Which has a specific route that we do at my parents' house.

Yeah, you're really, I don't know if this applies to other parts of your life, but you are very into tradition when it comes to Thanksgiving.

Yes, particularly around Thanksgiving.

Not change, but like doing the same thing every year.

When I was a kid, we didn't celebrate Christmas. I've talked about this a lot on the show. And so Thanksgiving was like the biggie. Like that was like the thing we all looked forward to. It was just big fun thing to do. And to this day, it's always been like a very, very important part of our family. Like, if you marry into our family, you're just kind of, I think you're sort of told, look, sorry, we can do whatever you want for Christmas, but Thanksgiving is kind of non-negotiable. And in fact, to this day, like, I love Christmas. Christmas morning is really fun, but I don't care if I do Christmas here or if I do it at Addie's house or whatever. Like, I don't have a bunch of Christmas traditions the way I have these Thanksgiving traditions that, I mean, are primarily Macy's, the Macy's Day Parade, the Burbank Family Fun Run, and just eating my weight in king's hawaiian rolls those that's all i that's that's all i need

you're gonna go bananas this year well i mean yeah but like what's gonna happen i mean actually

this might get me out of a couple of jams because my nephew jack is on his cross-country team at his school and he is really fast like this was going to be you know my brother david is a lot faster than me too now but he i think kind of would go easy on me but like you know kids don't have that level of respect like they don't understand to kind of like you know not show off so like you know jack is i mean this would be the the first year that one of my nephews would just absolutely decimate me on the fun run so this actually might be kind of um kind of helpful might get me out of a couple of jams might give me an entire additional year to to train for an iron man and be and become

capable of running six minute miles i love picturing you like sort of leaning back in a chair your belly is distended you have grease all over your face you're holding a turkey leg you're just like oh i was really gonna get you guys this year too what a bummer as you rub your belly i'm popping

hawaiian rolls like tic tacs it's just as gravy runs down i'm just drinking directly out of the

gravy boat oh man this is gonna be my year i was gonna get you kids

hey let's thank some of our donors of the day these are the wonderful generous people who are supporting tbtl financially and letting the burbanks come over for thanksgiving talking about craig parsons in conover north carolina craig uh do you have a pull out sofa or anything it's only 30 people that could probably work out

it's you know it just occurred to me you have the solution it's your house it sounds perfect

for thanksgiving oh my god i mean it would be that would that would be hilarious just a big empty room that has cardboard down all over the what will eventually be the floor the world's tiniest kitchen with a tiny stove that none of the numbers for indicating temperature are even

on the stove anymore it's more like jazz you just feel it out although that would be i mean that

would be a cute story right kind of like when i was a kid we used to do our uh thanksgiving dinner believe it or not at the church at gospel outreach christian fellowship out there in briar washington and so you know we would get the whole all of you know all 30 people that went to the church or something. In fact, my family Thanksgiving is arguably larger than when they opened it up to the entire congregation of Gospel Outreach Christian Fellowship. But we would get together at the church and cook, you know, a big Thanksgiving meal, which I also really loved as a kid. But one year there was a, it's pretty famous for old time Seattle folks, there was a terrible storm, a windstorm that took out all of the power in Seattle. And I remember getting to the church And my memory was, it was either Tim Nabokowski or Tracy Dobbinsbeck. Somebody was just manning the Webbers. There was, like, people had brought their—this was long before the days of, like, a propane, you know, cool propane barbecue system. So it was just, like, two or three just old-school Webbers going out behind the church with turkeys on them. Oh, wow. Which is kind of fun, you know? It's kind of like—

You know, it's like a Christmas story or something. There's something that's oddly, in a weird way, nice when everything kind of goes wrong around the holiday, but then you end up having a special time anyway. So this could be one of those moments. Exactly. Anyway, Craig, we'll be there in probably, I'd say, about, with the time change, I don't know, eight, nine hours. So go ahead and get ready. And we're bringing Jordan Naraki with us because he's in Portland. It's like, why not?

He is, yes. Jordan, our resident Detroit Tigers fan, in fact. i've met up with jordan before mariners uh tigers games thank you jordan appreciate you uh thanks

also to margaret spanny in ashland oregon home of the shakespeare festival i believe it might be the the premier shakespeare festival in america is in ashland oregon i and i am embarrassed to say this

but i don't know if margaret is a detroit tigers fan or not but she is a hamlet fan yes for sure

Thank you, Margaret. Thanks also to Eliza Halder, who's in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Yes. One of our favorite towns. We've got to get back there at some point.

I would like to, we can have a meeting about this. I'd like to try to do the state fair again. And probably not, we don't have that Minnesota Public Radio hookup anymore, so maybe not perform at it. Well, I bet you Eric the Viking could slip us in. Yeah, that would be funny if we just showed up on the agenda. Do you think our key cards still work at Minnesota Public Radio at 7th and Cedar? They're like, there's no problem with you doing the live show on our stage. You just have to read these credits at the end.

The only person I'm going to credit for this show is Jessamyn Bateman Lino in Beery in Washington. Jessamyn Specimen. Hey, Jessamyn Specimen, what up? Thank you for your support. We really appreciate you. And then Tricia Lenhart Pendergrast is in Poway, California. Poway, California?

Do you know of Poway, California?

I do. That's where I learned to play the song Blackbird by the Beatles on guitar.

That's where you learned how to play Blackbird on guitar?

In Poway, California, Andrew.

I'm sorry. I didn't know that.

Wouldn't that be an amazing lie to make up? Like, it's just so hyper-specific.

I mean, I know that there was a time in your life where you were learning how to play guitar. I know that that was a song that you worked on a lot. I think there's even a story of a talent show maybe being involved. I could be wrong about that. But Poway, California is the origin of that?

Well, so what happened was my friend Ben Gebhardt and Joe Dolan and I took a road trip down to San Diego to visit. I don't even know what this guy's relation to Joe was exactly. Well, here was here's how this whole thing started. And Tricia, listen up, because this involves you or at least your town. so somehow my buddy Dave Hill who's a baseball fan not the Dave Hill of comedy stylings who by the way will be at Livewire at Revolution Hall in December but my friend David Hill heard that Fenway Park was closing and we were like we got to go to Fenway Park before it closes so we were like we're doing a road trip this summer we're road tripping to Fenway Park because we got to see it before they tear it down this is pre-internet this is just way before the internet

are they tearing down historic Fenway Park right exactly it was I mean this is what happens when

a rumor gets into the water supply my friend Dave Hill heard a rumor that Fenway Park was being torn down we decided as like high school juniors with newly minted driver's licenses that we were going to make it we're going to head over to Fenway Park to get eyes on it before it's torn down I want to clarify no one was tearing Fenway Park I was gonna ask you did you

make it in time wait wait wait I'll wait for that part of the story but so at

some point we decided to double-check I don't know how we double-checked this because again there was no internet we might have called Boston we might have called a Duncan in Boston are they tearing Fenway Park down and they said no so then we realized well we don't have to drive to Fenway Park anymore because it's not being torn down well what else could we do for a road trip so we decided well maybe we'll drive on the west coast and we'll go down to San Diego where Joe has this distant kind of like uncle figure but he was like a younger guy let's say he was maybe in his late 20s or early 30s and and then Dave Hill dropped out of the project so the guy who started the whole idea because he heard Fenway Park was being torn down ended up not on the road trip that was going to San Diego California technically going to North San Diego County well he had a

vision and the vision changed and it was no longer his vision so we drove down there and at the time

um i don't know if ben was a big guitar guy but joe and i were very into trying to learn guitar joe's dad gerdalen this is just so many names being thrown i hope someone's writing this all down this is my oral history uh joe's dad gerdalen rest in peace um had taught us how to play guitar And so he Joe and I both had like, you know, little funky

acoustic guitars that we'd picked up somewhere for cheap and we were just always kind of plucking away on those things and when we got down to San Diego I think it was Ben had a friend who had lived in Hawaii with him at some point but now had resettled in Poway California and we went over to that guy's house and I just remember us hanging out at his like you know his parents apartment or whatever and he knew how to play Blackbird and I remember just sitting in his bedroom now like the four of us and just spending hours and hours and hours trying to get down the finger you know kind of position for Blackbird and eventually kind of get I don't know if I could do it now but for a long time I still had it pretty it was muscle memory and that happened in Poway California Andrew well I'm not trying

to first of all that was a nice story I could have used some more specificity on

the names more names well Pam Dolan was Gare's wife and I really liked her because when rumors spread at Jesus Creek that I got someone pregnant, all of the moms of the other students, including the mummy's mom, literally shunned me. Like old school, like some Amish-style shunning. I was real shunned. And the only person who didn't shun me was Pam Dolan, who came out to my car and said, I want you to know you're welcome at our house. Whatever has happened, we like you. You're welcome here. And that will always live in my mind as a real kindness. That is nice.

I was going to say, I don't want, I'm not trying to get you to tell another guitar related story, but just to save face a little bit for me, you did learn a song for a talent show on guitar. Was it a Led Zeppelin song? Do I have anything right here? No, you're very, very close.

I did. That was, and I will, I'll keep this short because I've already, I've already made, made a mess of today's show. Much like my parents' basement. This show is a disaster and I don't know if we can have Thanksgiving here. but my senior year at Nathan Hale High School I was in an English class and the whole second half of the year was just like a big project you had to do something for a hundred hours and then you had to present to the class what you had done and you got an entire class period to basically show off your photography project or your musical whatever and I decided I was going to learn how to play guitar but not just like hey I'm going to strum some chords I'm going to learn Over the Hills and Far Away by Led Zeppelin, which is not like, it's not like week one of playing guitar. And I went and I bought a music book at like Kennelly Keys that had the tablature for this song. And I learned how to play it. Probably not super well, but I played this. I played Like a Rolling Stone by Bob Dylan.

Oh, okay.

And I forget what else, but I think I learned like three or four songs and I performed them for the class. now what was really kind of I have to say an entertaining car crash to watch was there was another student in the class I will omit his name so he doesn't feel embarrassed who decided he was also going to play guitar but then he never got around to doing it like he played piano but he and he figured well I play piano that should transfer there's notes so he never really got around to like sitting down with the guitar and trying which I absolutely did I mean I probably spent a few hundred hours doing this so it was obvious I mean I wasn't like good but it was obvious that I had really been working on this this other guy shows up to class with his guitar and clearly like a day before had tried to learn a couple of chords and he's got

55 minutes to fill and it was rough oh my god I think Genevieve has told this I think I've called her into the greatest stories yes we won't do it now I'll just I'll just reference it but Yeah, Genevieve had a recital when she was a kid, a piano recital, and she did not practice. And she just, she was a headstrong kid and didn't practice and didn't want to and figured, she'd figure it out somehow. And she went out on stage. The audience is packed. Her parents are out there. She sits down to the piano, I think, plunks out a couple of notes and says, I'm sorry, I don't know this song. And gets up and walks off.

Hey, I respect, I respect the honesty. I would have faked a wrist injury. i would have been like i would have been like um good tim heidecker in the charades sketch oh i burned my mouth with this soup yeah with borscht it warmed up to room temperature when you're expecting it to be cold yeah yeah oh i broke my hand on these stupid piano keys gazpacho anyway thank you to our donors for sending us down that little journey happy thanksgiving everyone Hello, and welcome to Top Story. All right. Let's get to this quiz, which I've actually barely delved into because I did not want to ruin the surprise for myself. Yeah, me too. The Washington Post is asking me to verify that I am paying for the content. I am, although I have no idea what my password is on this computer. Oh, you've got to be kidding me, Washington. post are you really locked out i'm locked out because i'm on this newer computer that um you know i've got the the other one let's see here they're gonna have to mail me andrew can you tap

dance what do you yeah well here's what i got i got the article open now i had not opened this at all so this is totally new to me because i thought it'd be more fun to go over it on the show but is there any setup that we need while you're kind of tap dancing over there trying to log in or can i just start by asking question one of eight the the question here is whether or not we talk more like a millennial or a boomer at work and it's is this directed towards us because we're gen xers we're

between millennials and boomers what we're gen x you said yeah yeah okay sorry i'm also trying to i hate this process i don't think anyone wants to hack into my washington post account are they doing like it's a lot of factor authentication yes a lot of factor authentication and when all i want to do okay so here we go good i'm now apparently now of course my other computer it won't work anymore but that's that's a tomorrow problem for today i am i'm logged it only works on one device well i had to change my password oh on this device which means my other device may or may not know the new password so but whatever here's here's the point i've got this thing up now do you talk more like a millennial or a boomer at work take this quiz to find out so uh i thought we could just go through this if you wanted to um are you at question one of eight

i am it's time to update a co-worker on a team project and touch base on a few things touch base that seems kind of boomery right there right i say that a lot how do you reach out to your co-worker here are your options and you and i will both take this together and then figure out at the end how cool we are pick up the guillot and the risk no it says pick up the phone and call the person this is how you're going to reach out to a co-worker about something pick up the phone and call a person or quickly send a short email that gets directly to the point send an instant message or text summarizing everything in one block of text or send one or a series of quick instant messages or texts as long as you have a friendly social relationship so in other words one text message big block of text or like ping ping ping ping ping their phone or their device with a whole bunch of uh information you know what the funny thing is my choice isn't on here which would be email them and ask if they want to talk about this on the phone or zoom interesting i think i would

of these things i think my likely uh response would be or reaching out would be quickly send a short email that gets directly to the point that would be the closest for me based on what i said

my point though would be hey do you want to do this via email or would you have a chance to talk on the phone because i do like talking things out now would you text the person or would you email them um it's a co-worker i mean our situation is so uh different because just you me and john and we're friends and we run this thing if i was working at like cairo or something i would email

if i had yeah i worry about text so if i'm trying to get a hold of you quickly i'll send a text or i'll text john but i feel like text is not the place for any like important information or lists of things because it just feels more ephemeral to me somehow even though it's not i mean a text

message is as durable as an email but not really though it's easily lost because it's all one thread you'd have to scroll scroll scroll up as opposed to going to your email where maybe you have an email saved based on a subject line okay so i'm going with quickly send a short email me

too the really what i would do is probably send a long email with bullet points but that's the one let's see here your preferred form of communication often relates back to what you have the most experience using early in your career according to experts yep and that would be right for us yeah okay the past several weeks there's question number two the past several weeks have been a doozy you've worked long days and nights met crazy deadlines and dealt with problems at work and home to top it off this morning you slept through your alarm and spilled coffee on your

shirt why are you sleeping with coffee and your power went out your name is walter burbank yeah

It does say, and your power went out. It does. You're at your mental edge. What do you do if you're at your mental edge? Do you tell your boss you're anxious or burned out and need a mental health day? Do you suck it up and get your work done? You don't highlight your personal struggles at work. You deliver. Do you take the day off to decompress but refrain from explaining? All your employer needs to know is that you're taking a sick day, or do you try to address your work and mental health at the same time by going for a run midday and working late? Again, all of these are going to be a little bit outside of our experience because we just don't kind of work in typical environments anymore. But if you can journey back in your mind, Andrew, to when you were at NHPR or KCW or Cairo or something, how would you have handled it. Because if it was you

and me we would talk about it i'd be like we literally do a show about it it would actually oh my god i slept through my alarm i spilled coffee on my shirt and my power went out that's a segment right there and honestly that could be two shows i wish that would happen to

one of us all right so i i well why don't you answer i would say like but in a more traditional

workplace in the places where um i was like a producer or what have you it would be down to one of these two for me either suck it up and get your work done or take the day off to decompress but just tell the employer that you're taking a sick day. You know, I would do either one of those, depending on how bad the situation is or how bad I felt about it. And if I truly felt like I cannot get anything done today, the one thing that is, well, I guess I didn't sleep through my alarm so bad that I'm already late. That's one caveat to this. Like if you're calling your boss or your colleagues or whatever it is, after you were already supposed to show up, like the jig is sort of up on that. You know what I mean? Because if you were feeling sick, you should have let somebody know a little bit the day before. But leaving that out of this, I'm going to say, let's just say that I really, really need a day and I'm just feeling like I can't get my work done. I'll just tell them I'm taking a sick day.

I think, and this makes me sound like I'm some, you know, I don't know, like some trooper. But I think typically for me, I would just kind of suck it up and try to get my work done. You're right, though. I mean, it's weird because literally this would be a show. If we were doing TV show, I would just tell you how I spilled coffee on my shirt and how I slept through the alarm. But if it were live wire, like I've knock wood, like I've never missed an episode of live wire. I've never missed an event. Like if I woke up on a morning and I have, you know, either massively hung over or just kind of like battling some sort of, you know, kind of mental health stuff or whatever, it would be unconscionable for me to. Now, I've missed days because I was having a kind of a breakdown and it was almost the kind of thing where you were like, how do I locate Luke? But as far as like if I had the wherewithal to like email in or call, I would just push through.

I know this is going too far back, but would you have done that? Can you put yourself in the position of when you were a booker at NPR or a producer where you weren't the person at the center of the activity? Because I sort of feel like the live wire example also.

It's a bad example because if I don't go there, then like the show doesn't happen.

It's not a bad example, but I still think it's it's relying on an untraditional work situation where your absence is different than if one of your not your. I hate saying your producers, but one of the producers of the show, if they call in because they're they're they're sick or whatever, like it's a they can't handle work that day. It's a different scenario. Like when you were working, I guess the last regular job you had would have been and it would have been at NPR.

Yeah. In L.A. I even then again, I'm I'm a I'm a very flaky person and I'm also a very lazy person. But there is something in the back of my mind. And again, not that I haven't missed days like that's happened because of. I want to say force majeure, but it was more like booze majeure, like just like incapable of like really kind of holding up my end of like this bargain kind of thing. But like, generally speaking, if I'm not feeling great or if I'm kind of if I'm if I'm not, you know, for some reason, my my my tendency is towards going in. Like, I can't remember ever calling in for a mental health day at my job in L.A. I don't even remember calling in sick. but I also think that there's something kind of generational about that and I don't want to fall into any kind of like broad traps here by going like young people these day they they prioritize their mental health what's up with that but I do think that you know I think people of a younger generation are more aware of how our mental health and our emotional health kind of affects us and my senses would be more comfortable saying hey I just really need a mental health day like I'm just not doing well and I think there's a like a certain amount of like kind of stoicism that comes certainly in the generations before me and maybe still hanging on a little bit in my generation that I don't even know if it's serving anyone but I do I kind of feel that for myself yeah can I

I'm running a risk here and I can cut this all out but I'm going to confess something to you that I've never told you about that I was mad at you one time are you ready for this or should we not get into this before the before the holidays well my holidays were canceled anyway so I got I remember when we were working together at Cairo Radio, there was one of those days where, and this would fall under the category of booze-a-hull problems, I think, but I remember we were waiting for you to show up, and we were waiting for you to show up, and you didn't, and then you called me or texted me and said, I think you texted me or emailed and said that you were sick, and then I found out that you had been out with a bunch of our mutual friends the night before, and I was like, oh.

Sorry, laughing is the wrong response. No, actually, I'm glad you're laughing,

because you can hear I'm nervous to bring it up, because I honestly don't care anymore. But I will say that... at the time for probably for a while I was like you know we were friends at the time it wasn't like I was your boss and it was more kind of like oh like because I was letting my friend down yeah I was hearing all scramble and also just like and I and again I don't think I wasn't really running with this crew at the time so I don't think I would have necessarily been yes exactly sloppy steak you guys were slopping it up but it was one of those things it's almost sort of like a movie where i was like okay yeah we scrambled and then people were like oh man wasn't that a blast on thursday holy shit i'm just like okay well i want to say a couple things first of all

i legitimately i'm sorry that was a that was not a nice move friend to friend that was not cool of me it was unprofessional and whoever freaking ratted me out i i honestly looking at you anita

no i don't uh no i don't think so i think this was um this i think it was a hell of a night i don't know what happened that night but i think it was like an epic night so it was the type of thing that i think i had heard several people like nobody was ratting on you you know what i mean like

that is truly i feel bad though because that see so i just said this whole thing of how like i just pushed through but i guess there must have been some days i didn't push through but i would i think you being uh mad at me is was a very very reasonable response because i'm leaving you kind of holding the bag you're scrambling and then you know it's not because i'm you know under the whether through anything that was unavoidable, it was very avoidable. I just chose to be a maniac and then not fulfill my professional obligations the next day, so.

And also, if you had just said, like, dude, I fucked up. I went crazy last night. I think probably my thought was.

I think I would have been like, oh, Luke, you know. I think, I mean, my guess is that what I was mostly doing was trying to get that word to Dave Ross or whoever. You know what I mean? Like, I think I need, I probably my thought was the narrative needs to be that I'm sick right now, maybe more so than like trying to actually mislead you. But again, I don't know. I didn't even remember this happened. But I think if it was you and me, I would have said, dude, I just got super wasted last night. But I think I wanted I think I wanted the higher ups and also the Dave Ross's. Would Dave Ross hit his head? That's a good question.

He's one of our shorter friends. You know, I'm going to go king. And also, was he at the Halloween party? And if so, what did he dress up as?

Oh, wow.

I bet you he loves dressing up for Halloween.

I bet you he does, too. I'm trying to think of what he would dress up as. Especially this year. Maybe he'd break out his, like, Ebenezer Scrooge costume.

Or it would be something from I Think You Should Leave. He'd be wearing a Dan Flasher shirt. Okay, listen, I have been excited about this quiz, and I've slowed us down. So you're going to go suck it up. I'm sucking it up. Even though I don't remember ever actually doing this, in the context of this question, I will say I'm just going to take the day off, but I'm going to say I'm sick.

OK, I was seeing if I had I was trying to see if I could find that arrested development drop about sucking it up.

But so let's see. Oh, from. Yeah, it says to me. So I said that I'm going to take the day off, but I'm going to say I'm taking a sick day. I'm not going to say a mental health day. And it says the younger you are, the more comfortable you may be expressing mental health concerns. The stigma has declined over the decades. Yep, that's right.

I said suck it up and I got the same I think that the little sort of message afterwards is probably the same whatever answer we put down so here we go question number three of eight during your annual review your manager lists off areas for improvement to advance this is the first time you're hearing this feedback and you disagree what do you do well my boss can't tell me to get better at my job if I don't go to the meeting Andrew

I thought you were doing a character that's galaxy brain the meme that's when your brain is glowing all right ensure that you uh ensure you get to respond and request more regular feedback and context agree to do better because you respect the chain of command and you want to progress get discouraged and consider looking for a new job or listen and realize you may not need to progress to be happy and focus on balance in your life

listen and realize if i'm being if i'm being 100 andrew and by the way how could an old person use a term like keeping it 100 yeah no would an old person say that no don't raise me up um if i'm being totally honest i i think my reaction would be to get discouraged and consider looking for a new job like i'm not i don't do well at like getting negative feedback and i and and hearing that i'm not doing a good job my my usual response is well then maybe i'm not the person for

this thing which is i'm not proud of that yeah you know well this is um this is kind of embarrassing to say like it's hard to put myself in this exact situation right now but i mean i did have jobs where i'd get like regular reviews um i do know like i can get defensive i'm surprised that there with

Isn't isn't something here that says, like, kind of respond in the moment and regret getting defensive, because that's probably what I would do. I would probably get a little bit huffy and ask for examples, which is not a good thing. I don't think in that professional setting you should do that. I think you should just listen just like from a practical standpoint, even if the manager is kind of irritating you with what they're saying. I think it's always good to just like don't say anything in the moment. take that information and process it then decide if you feel like the information is about you is incorrect then you can bring it up with your manager later or whatever I think I'd be too defensive in the moment so I think I would try to just shut my trap weirdly that's not on here um today in 2023 like if I had a job like the ones I'm thinking of that were like pretty high stress and like producery and whatever I might just say you know what I don't need to to like progress as it says here to be happy and focus on balance in your life i'm just going to be like you know what i'm good at this level don't give me a promotion i'll take a cost of living raise

and then i'm going to go home and play with dartbot i'm taking the last one okay i think i uh i'm going to get discouraged and consider looking for a new job because i'll tell you what they're really looking for is a 47 year old yeah 47 year old guy who's like i'm going to show up i'm going to wear the exact outfit that Jack Lemmon is wearing in Glen Gary, Glen Ross.

Long raincoat.

Shell the machine Levine. Somehow you're always coming in the door shaking off your hat. Gil from The Simpsons. Oh, Gil was going to get a win there. I get discouraged instead of looking for a new job. The societal norms throughout the decades around receiving critical feedback have ranged from fully respecting the chain of command to questioning it and sometimes even challenging it. Boy, boy, did you ever say nothing there, the Washington Post? Societal norms throughout the decades around receiving critical feedback have ranged, Andrew, from, wait for it, respecting the chain of command to also, Andrew, questioning it and sometimes challenging it. So what you're saying is over time, people have done all of the possible things related to this topic. Yes, exactly. And it doesn't say what we're where we are now. OK, question number four of eight. Do you want to read this one?

Yeah. Let me ask you this, too. I don't think we've ever done this before. I mean, we're halfway through this list. Is there any chance we save some of it for tomorrow or do you want to power through? I guess you've already chosen power through.

Andrew I don't appreciate this feedback And I'm going to start looking for a new job

Well you're true to yourself

You know actually though I do think that is a useful piece of feedback And course correction Andrew and because I'm Learning and growing And because I'd like to do better And respect the chain of command and I want to progress I will agree to the idea Of us actually picking this The last four questions of this quiz up

Tomorrow okay so five though So this is question four we're on now You want to save this one for tomorrow as well And then we'll do four through eight tomorrow Yes, let's do that

Here I go once again with the email Every week, I hope that it's from a female No man It's not from a female

Alright, emails or V-mails I gotta tell ya Made a really, really bad call By drinking a ton of coffee While the bathroom is Oh shoot It's inaccessible

Well, I'm hoping that this is a number one situation And not a you know number two situation

numero dos

oh then what is your plan

the bus station obvs

is there a bus station that you can use

I don't know I actually believed you for a second I was trying to think of the place I would least like to use unless they rebuild the kingdom and time travel me back to that moment I'm thinking bus station would be low on my list of places where I'd want to go relieve myself

yeah yeah I mean I think you cut out there for a second but yeah i mean coffee also makes one pee so i could have seen a situation where you just have had too much coffee and you just really really need to let it out but you got some yeah yeah honestly though don't rule out the bus station in fact should we just hurry up here and play this voicemail so you can go find someplace in the world you know where i

could go is the harry i call it the harry potter train station oh yeah so there's a train station down in and i'm kind of in between three little small towns here and and there's a train station in one of the towns that I took, you know, to go up to that baseball game, and the actual train station is adorable. It's brick. It's run by these volunteers, these little ladies in their, like, green volunteer vests, and one of them, like, when the train was coming, literally came in and went real Shining Time station on it. She was like, 4.30, heading to... Like, you can just tell that she's, like, a train... She's a foamer. But when I got back... I think it was when I had gotten back to that train station because my car was parked nearby. and I needed to use the rest.

restroom and the i was walking towards the restroom and the lady stopped me and said do you have to go number one or number two and i was like i i was oh my god i was like thinking that's a really personal question but she was just like this nice little old lady and i was like number one she was like okay because the stall is broken but the urinal is working i see but it was like when's the last time in your life a complete stranger stopped you in public and asked if you were going to be doing number one or number two going into the bathroom well also um you could

have phrased it differently you didn't have to ask that question right she could have just said hey just so you know yes only one of those things is working in that in that exactly but she was a

volunteer yeah and a kindly type and probably wasn't you know thinking about the hr implications because you're right that way you should ask that is or the way you should frame it is hey i just want to let you know that the stall is out of order yeah and then let me do what i will with that information which is of course upper deck that you're in i was hoping you'd say that hey

the other day we were talking about um oklahoma state university's mascot um it's like yeah it's a is that what they are there are they the cowboys because i believe they are the the mascot is a cowboy with a big cowboy hat and a big mustache and i said the full body mascot also shows his um uh chaps is that what you call it yeah yeah like big chaps and then um these six shooters pistols and i said you know it looks like maybe newer versions of the mascot only focus on his face because i think maybe in this day and age schools wouldn't want to have any kind of firearm in their mascot it turns out i'm not right about many things this is ann in oklahoma and you were

talking yesterday about oklahoma state university's mascot that was my school and i wanted to call in and give you some dazzling beats on him um and i'd like to begin by saying there are many oklahomans who are very much in favor of sensible gun control so let's start there okay having said that our mascot's name is pistol pete he was um a real cowboy and sheriff his real name was frank eaton who was called Pistol Pete while he was alive because he was such a good shot. And that mascot literally looks like the real man, Frank Eaton. So at the football games, if you go to an Oklahoma State football game, first the announcer, when we make a touchdown, will yell, Pistol's firing! And everyone in the stadium makes the pew-pew gesture with their hands like you're shooting two pistols in the air. and then Pistol Pete runs out on the field and fires a shotgun into the air and then our spirit horse named Bullet and his rider gallop out onto the field and make a big circle while everyone is still firing their fake pistol fingers. So yeah, that's how we do football at Oklahoma State. Power out. So like

I said, Oklahoma State is sort of downplaying the gun play, you know. Yes, no, they hate, they don't go in for that. I mean, it just keeps going. The horse's name is Bullet. Pistol Pete fires a shotgun. The horse is firing an Uzi. Right, exactly. Who gave that horse an Uzi?

By the way, I am looking at a picture. Wayne LaPierre comes. Wayne LaPierre skydives into the stadium. Who knew he could do that? I'm looking at a photo of Frank Eaton. I'm looking at a photo of Frank Eaton and the mascot, like the real frank eaton and then the mascot drawing and it's uncanny really really nailed it

oh that's so funny i actually do really love that mascot yeah i mean don't listen the day before

thanksgiving burbs calm down don't don't turn this into a into a gun control conversation at this late moment of the program but like i i would say i don't personally have some big problem with like a six shooter the idea of a six shooter like root and toot and western stuff you know like that's not to me the issue that we have in this country around sensible gun legislation you know what i mean it's like there's you know there are these there are these war machines that no civilians need to have that people are walking around with that are to me quite troubling obviously some you know doing you know finger pew pew pew at a football game that doesn't to me feel like the the issue that we're really that we're up against here as far as people's safety

if that makes any sense yeah that's why you wanted the the lawmakers to introduce the root and tootin clause these yes the sensible gun control that's right i would a root and tootin militia a well-rooted well-tooted militia wait is that is that that's the show title How do we get there so late?

But better late.

then never. All right. Thanks everyone. Hey, we are going to be back here tomorrow. Yes. On Thanksgiving with another edition of TBTL for you. So please join us for that. Maybe while you're getting, while you're getting your food together and also let me know if you can host because we are still working it out in the Hawk squad chain. My dad is that the update is my dad is on his way to home Depot to try to get another hot water

heater. Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, that's gotta be the number one priority. You gotta stanch the flow, right? Like, you've got to take care of that

no matter what. Addie DMing me, these flooded basements are going to be the gall-dang death of this family. Because remember in Bellingham, I was constantly having basement

flooding. Oh, right. I did forget about that.

Anyway, all right. We'll see you all tomorrow. Thanks. Please remember, no mountain too tall. Good luck to all.

I just dropped trowel, and then I poop again, and I always throw my teepee down I've just dropped trowel and then I poop again and I always throw my teepee down you get it power out