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#4092 Yakoff Ripoff
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#4092 Yakoff Ripoff

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

December 7, 2023 | 01:07:17 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke challenges Andrew to a guessing game, and what comes next will shock you. They also find themselves looking back at the Miller Genuine Draft commercials of their youth. And Luke is about to get a haircut at a Chicago barbershop he's never been to, and he's a little nervous.
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Thanks for coming in. It's a great pleasure. Thank you. This ship that was involved in the

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incident off Western Australia this week. Yeah, the one the front fell off? Yeah. Yeah,

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that's not very typical. I'd like to make that point. Well, how is it untypical? Well, there are a lot of these ships going around the world all the time and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don't want people thinking that tankers aren't safe. Was this tanker safe? Well, I was thinking more about the other ones. The ones that are safe? Yeah,

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the ones the front doesn't fall off. Well, if this wasn't safe, why did it have 80,000 tons

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of oil on it? I'm not saying it wasn't safe. It's just perhaps not quite as safe as some of the other ones. Why? Well, some of them are built so the front doesn't fall off at all. Wasn't this

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built so the front wouldn't fall off? Well, obviously not. How do you know? Well, because the

00:00:34 - 00:01:17 | Speaker 5:

front fell off and 20,000 tonnes of crude oil spilled into the Sea Court fire. It's a bit of a giveaway. I just like to make the point that that is not normal. Well, what sort of standards are these oil tankers built to? Oh, very rigorous maritime engineering standards. What sort of thing? Well, the front's not supposed to fall off for a start. And what other things? Well, there are regulations governing the materials that they can be made of. What materials? Well, cardboard's out and no cardboard derivatives like paper no paper no string no sellotape rubber no rubber's out um they've got to have a steering wheel there's a minimum crew requirement what's the minimum crew oh one i suppose tbtl hello did you say hello no i said hello but that's

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close enough i am a social media brand ambassador for myself from my own account and for a third party account as well which belongs to my dog who's a pet who i do also brand negotiation deals for him as well and i do djing also for party and events and corporate and personal and public and i do also certified i'm a lash tech also but i haven't really done that in a while but i can i'm still certified to do it and i also just do negotiating brand deals for my own account as well and commercial acting as well as well as modeling and some acting as well i don't even know

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what that means no one knows what it means but it's provocative all right hello good morning and

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welcome everyone to a thursday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live

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i'm so excited about this show it is weird it is beautiful it has a plot that goes in fascinating

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directions my name is luke burbank i am your host coming to you from beautiful chicago illinois where it is just actually absolutely spectacular out there it's like i'm walking on sunshine blue skies not a cloud out there it's actually also i think unseasonably warm right now so uh things are really coming together out here in the windy city as we arrive at episode 4093 in a collector's series? Let the fun begin. I said that with a lot of confidence. I wrote it down on the hotel stationery today here at the hotel I'm staying at. But right as I was reading that number, I started to wonder if I've got the right episode number or not. We will find out together when people email me, either saying, way to go, Burbs, or saying, you've failed us again. Also, I am starting to come down with some sort of a, maybe a bit of a cold, a scratchy throat, a little bit of a cough. So I'm going to be trying to ride the cough button here and not subject you to anything. The way that my dad, Walt B., was subjecting me to a fair amount of coughing and other things when we were working on the house, it was, it would have been Tuesday night. And he was coughing up a storm sitting on the couch next to me. He goes, yeah, I'm coming down with something. And I was like, yeah, I can tell. Maybe we, I don't know, maybe we get a hanky for that or something. I don't know. All right. You right now, you are listening to a podcast. You are actually, you're doing it. You're hearing a podcast. And, of course, a lot has been discussed. There's been much discussion around the industry of podcasting, the boom of podcasting. Podcasts are the future of show business. And then the decline of podcasting. Well, a new article in Slate Magazine says podcasting may not be quite as dead as we think it is, but also for some of the really good shows, it is over. And we have some bad news around one of my favorite podcasts out there.

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In addition to the good news and the terrible news, there's also some truly awful news.

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So we'll get into that. Plus, it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day. We'll do the Blur's Day messages and we'll talk to this guy. he is the longest-running cobro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. So, yeah. In short, things are going extremely well for him. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

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I feel like I'm on The Daily. Thank you for introducing me with that Barbaro tape.

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I heard that whilst treadmilling away this morning, and I thought that would be a funny way to introduce Andrew. The real context for that is description of the rapper Young Thug, who's currently up on...

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ecocharges in Atlanta. So let's just say it's been decontextualized and then recontextualized into the world of TBTL forevermore, now being an Andrew Walsh job.

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In short, things are going extremely well for him. I know we're going to be talking about the Spotify podcast situation later on in the show, and I don't want to step on that, but maybe this would be a good time just to check in with you. I meant to ask you this off air. How are we doing? Are we good?

00:05:28 - 00:05:38 | Speaker 1:

like we're still well let's see if we have any donors to thank today andrew that'll be a big flip ahead of the script a little bit of um of if if this thing is still working i mean yeah

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okay looks good yep okay we're good at least for another week okay on a business side i don't know

00:05:43 - 00:06:45 | Speaker 1:

how it's going on a um my personal brand side andrew because i'm gonna try another risky move today here in chicago i'm gonna go get my haircut at another kind of like men's grooming type of place that I've never been to because I find myself in a moment where my my hair is is grown out into a particularly unflattering kind of vibe going on for me and I'm gonna be going from here Chicago directly to Los Angeles where I'm filming this weekend and I gotta gotta get on top of this hairdo situation but that means I'm going to someplace called Metropolitan Barber and when I called them to make the appointment today the guy he sounded nice but direct he sounded like a guy who probably has like um a kind of a thunderous beard that he also like waxes and takes good care of and it sounds like everyone who works there has much burlier forearms than i do do is it the

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vibe of a guy who not only owns a beard care business but is featured in a commercial for shipping products because the new shipping technology has really made him able to grow

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his small beard care business right exactly like the kind of person that shows up in some sort of commercial where uh you've also got a jennifer garner appearance

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like once there is that one yeah oh god don't even get me don't even get me started on those but are you familiar with the beard ones that are currently running and i'm just thinking now that this is sort of a trend and maybe something that jenna even i could build a show around um yeah let's workshop it here let's workshop it here right and then polish it up for the good one um but the idea of businesses maybe we've already done this in fact businesses that are featured in commercials for other businesses as sort of a we're all scratching each other's back here kind

00:07:45 - 00:08:29 | Speaker 1:

of thing you see it sometimes during the Super Bowl but I can't remember what but they're never in my mind businesses that are going to last more than two years it's never like hey we um you know we're a company that moves around um financial derivatives from this place to the other place and we take a 0.0% cut of the money and we all just work in a windowless office somewhere. Like, that's never the business that Chase Bank is helping with their business needs. It's always, like you said, somebody who's doing some kind of beard care, somebody who has a company that does, you know, Botox on pugs, like, you know.

00:08:29 - 00:08:33 | Speaker 2:

Right, often a married couple, often, yes.

00:08:33 - 00:09:24 | Speaker 1:

What was it, the cheese? There was a family cheese business that was, like, in heavy rotation. It's, like, basically, like, we're a company, we're a financial services company, and we've been able to help this business, which is the kind of business that you would invent if you were a person who hated your real job and wanted to have a company. Like, my pig-cuddling company didn't know what to do for our payroll, and that's where, you know, that's where ADM, is that who we use? That's where this, like, so it's, like, it's kind of like they're never going to highlight. Like, my business that cleans out coffins that are being repurposed, you know, when someone is exhumed because of an unsolved criminal case, that coffin is still perfectly good. My company goes in and cleans out that coffin and then sells it on the aftermarket. Like, that's never the person being featured in these ads.

00:09:25 - 00:09:35 | Speaker 2:

Right, right, right. Unless it's like, well, we clean out the coffins and make it cute, sort of. Like if it's if it's sort of a right, you know, a little little hip and then you're kind of reselling it as some sort of an art project.

00:09:36 - 00:09:48 | Speaker 1:

Right. Right. Like my my company, Coffin Cuties, we take old coffins and we turn them into flower boxes that we put outside of out of various pet cuddling pop ups.

00:09:49 - 00:09:51 | Speaker 2:

Big cuddling, Luke. Get it straight. Big cuddling.

00:09:51 - 00:10:06 | Speaker 1:

Well, any pets, you know, we're expanding, Andrew, with the help of Chase Bank, we've been able to expand our pig cuddling business into really include all animals. animals now all pets are welcome here to be cuddled i don't want to um give too much free

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press to this but i found a long version of the exact commercial i was talking about i'm just going to dip into the middle here and seamless to just pick an order print everything you need and just slap the label onto the box and it's ready to go all of our orders oh that's no fun in the commercial version of this the one that sizzled down to like 30 seconds that's on heavy rotation in something i've been watching which really raises the question what the hell have i've been watching is it been football or bob's burgers because i feel like that's all i've been watching lately but um yeah they start with their you know we we started this uh beard waxing business because we felt like there was a real need in the community for more beard wax um but we weren't making money at first until we hooked up with the name of the company which i'm not even

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going to say here the kind of haircuts that are mostly featured on this this company's website like it seems like a hip kind of sort of men's grooming slash barbershop type of deal and just a cursory look at their website showed that the kind of haircuts they seem to specialize in are those like there's a certain kind of haircut that a guy who's in his maybe like late 20s right now I feel like tends to get a certain kind of dude where it's they shave it all the way down to the skin kind of around the back of your neck and sort of parts of the sides and then they blend it up I don't I don't want to say fade. That's not the right term for it I don't even know what the right term for this kind of haircut is but it's like it's basically it's a young man's haircut Andrew. It's the kind of haircut that a certain kind of guy you know living in Chicago and many other American cities tend to get right now. It's very popular. Then you've just got kind of like a little you've got a sort of a what like how would I describe the hair on top. You've got some curls. It's a good I mean of course you're also using people that have very good lustrous heads of hair for these modeling shots but it's a certain look and kind of vibe of haircut that is not the look and vibe of haircut that I go for I go for can we try to make this balding situation a little less pronounced and also can we clean up my neckline where by the way I have a cowlick I have the most unfortunate at the base of the on the back of my head at the base of my neck where you know they they trim the hair do you go with with square or round for the for your neckline they ask me that question every time and it's it's a new adventure every time i never know

00:12:24 - 00:12:30 | Speaker 2:

what to say they never ask me that but i think it's round uh okay yeah but that so that area of

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my hair the like where they would round off my neckline on the left side is is hopelessly cow like it grows in a spiral and so it's i don't know that's all i want i just want the area like the the sides and the bottom of my neck to look a little less jacked up than they do now i don't want to emerge uh from this haircut looking like i'm one of these guys that should be on tiktok biting my lower lip and doing a dance to the jack harlow song whips and chains wow that that did

00:13:01 - 00:14:01 | Speaker 2:

something for me i want to tell you a little story about a haircut that just occurred to me might be interesting to you which is i came back from a haircut last week and for the first time in my life i ended up the next day using my own scissors to kind of round it round it out a little bit more but that sounds like it's a disaster it wasn't a disaster and i think i'm going to go back to this same barber in fact is the first time she had cut my hair and i think what you mentioned that um part part of your whole deal is trying to mitigate the the look of balding and you've got a whole you've got a whole lifestyle built around that but i do i am the opposite of that first of all i'm balding way more than you um and also like because of my situation i do not in any way want to look like i'm hiding my balding you know what i mean like it is what it is like i'm not out like listen i'm not out there trying to impress anybody with my looks anyway i mean good lord i gave up on that when i was 10 so um like but what was like nine like for you oh god were You're so sexy, man.

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You should have seen me. God, I want to see a nine-year-old Andy who's just like, I'm going to get a lot of places with these whips.

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I was biting my lower lip. I was doing the whole thing that you just described that I forgot the rest of.

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I don't want no whips and chains. Do you know about this? After you're done, I will inform you on this Jack Harlow nightmare.

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Okay, no, I look forward to that. Does he still have a beard? I only knew him from a commercial, and he had a beard. Anyway, so this woman cut my hair. I had to go to a new barbershop now. It's still Rudy's, but the one I had been going to for a long time closed down, which really makes me sad. So I'm traveling a little bit further to a different location. But again, it's still, you know, 99.9% of the time. Love my experience. How are they doing?

00:14:44 - 00:14:47 | Speaker 1:

They're not on the cut list so far.

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All right, good. But anyway, so I, you know, almost always like the haircut I get and I always like the experience I have there. And one thing that I noticed, and I don't know if this is relevant.

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or not i just thought it was interesting um this woman i told you that usually i don't start a conversation with the hairstylist or the barber i just kind of but you end it but i ended i just like to see you know if they want to talk i'll i love chatting with people but um i also don't want to force somebody to talk to me just because they're cutting my hair right so i don't know how it kicked off this woman asked me i was doing we started chatting she um clearly was somebody comfortable having a conversation with me which doesn't it doesn't apply to a lot of people in life these days so uh we started having a conversation that has led to maybe some life changes for me she was telling me about the gym she goes to which would be actually more convenient for me and uh based on where it's located we sort of live nearby it turns out and i'm thinking about changing my gym not just to be able to work out closer to her it's not weird like that it's just that her gym sounds so much better and cheaper and easier to get to from my place than my current situation so anyway i really enjoyed the haircut what i thought was somewhat interesting notable without sounding ageist here was that she was the rare case of a Rudy's barber who was not younger than me and not like significantly younger than me she might have been a little bit older than me and didn't seem like necessarily like super hip the way a lot of the I mean not that everybody who works there is super hip but I just kind of I she was just like I don't know maybe super norm core and hip in that way but I wondered if it was her maybe cutting the hair of guys like me who were balding what happened was I came home and everything looked fine when I left the barbershop but the next day as the hair you know kind of took on its more natural shape I realized what she had done was sort of left it a little bit taller on top but on top is where I'm balding

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right and I think some trying to give you something to work with maybe I think so I think some fellas

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will be like well if you leave it a little bit longer there you know not I'm not talking I'm like a 1970s style straight up comb over situation but there's probably some fellas who like prefer, hey, can I cheat this a little bit if I come out of here and a little bit more hair on the sides?

00:16:59 - 00:17:06 | Speaker 2:

Like a picture I saw recently of about a, I think it was a 30, maybe 2-year-old, 33-year-old Patrick Stewart, Sir Patrick Stewart.

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Oh, okay, yeah.

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And I've never seen him before when he had his hair grown out on the sides because, you know, he obviously has kept it very short for most of his, as we think of him from, you know, Star Trek and stuff. But, like, he actually looked kind of dope. You know who else looks good? This is what you should start thinking about, Andrew. Stanley Kubrick. Think about Stanley Kubrick in, like, the Shining era, Stanley Kubrick. I don't think he's got a ton of hair on top of his head, but it's kind of cool how it's, like, sticking out on the sides all wild like an auteur.

00:17:34 - 00:17:36 | Speaker 1:

I think I can sort of picture that. The first thing I thought of Big Black was—

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Maybe you'll finally become that great film auteur if you grow your hair out wild on the sides.

00:17:40 - 00:18:55 | Speaker 1:

Maybe I can. The problem with me, actually, is when I was younger and I had a full set of hair— or a full set of hair. I had, like, 25 of those suckers. A full head of hair. I've got my Da Vinci hair caps on. It would grow out sort of like not when I had long hair down to my shoulders, but it would get kind of Einstein-y, kind of bushy and everything. I like that. But now that I am balding pretty significantly, almost more than I realized until I saw kind of a photo of me from maybe like above and behind. Somebody was taking a drone shot of me at some point in the past couple of years, And I realize, oh, I really do have that male pattern baldness going on, like kind of on the on the top of my dome. And again, that's fine. The one thing I don't want is for it to look like I'm trying to grow it out to hide that at all. Or if I'm if if I wait too long to get a haircut, my hair starts to feel long and very stringy to me much, much sooner than it used to when I had a full set of hair. And so anyway, so I'm getting more haircuts these days. And for me, I'm just like, cut it short. Don't use the buzzers. I don't want to look like a wannabe astronaut or something. Just like scissor short, but like, you know.

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Keep that going, by the way. I don't think an astronaut has had that haircut in 30 years, but I love it. You're like, I don't look like Buzz Aldrin in this 28-year-old person cutting your hair. I'm sorry. Buzz Lightyear? I meant cosmonaut. They're still doing it. I don't want to look like Laika, the first dog in space.

00:19:12 - 00:19:38 | Speaker 1:

What are you talking about? In Soviet Russia, cosmonaut still has hair cut like 1960s astronaut. that's a new character I just came up with based on absolutely nothing Yakov Ripoff did you really just come up with that? No I planned this for days. Well Yakov Ripoff sort of seems like I'm writing that down. Okay anyway the story is going on too long. You don't want

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the gym teacher haircut that we grew up with our gym teacher having but you also don't want to look in any way like you're trying to pretend like your hair is something that it's not. Exactly

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So anyway, I came back and when I when I looked in the mirror the next day and my hair kind of took on its natural shape, I noticed that it was sort of sticking up up on top and on the sides, though, because that's where the hair is. There isn't a hair in the middle.

00:20:00 - 00:21:23 | Speaker 2:

there I just it was sort of sticking up in this weird way it wasn't terrible but I didn't like it and so I just took the scissors that I used to sort of like kind of trim my beard and stuff and I laid down a towel on the sink and I just sort of like leaned my head over like there was something okay this is where I'll end this story because I've been talking too much but there was a time when I really enjoyed driving beater cars because it would make life easier in say the parking lot of a grocery store and if there was a grocery cart a little bit in your way while you're trying to park you could just nudge it out of the way with the bumper of the car a little bit and you didn't have to worry about it because it was a car it's just a little love tap you get out of the way obviously baby that's where it's at you're not going to do that with a brand new car there's something so freeing about having a car that you're not have you don't have to worry about it all the time that's my body now like I don't mind taking scissors and just trimming the hair on the top of my head a little bit because what am I gonna do like I mean I was careful like I don't want like a big like bald spot up there because I you know somebody startled me and the scissors cut away too much I was being careful but I can't imagine another time in my life where I was just like well just get out the scissors and I'll just fix this in front of the mirror but Like, you know, it's so short up there. There's not that much hair. I felt like and it just felt like a extension of my beard.

00:21:23 - 00:21:29 | Speaker 1:

I love it that like right now you only have liability for your body. You're not getting comprehensive.

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And I only do that because I have to because of the state laws. Exactly. Legally.

00:21:33 - 00:24:25 | Speaker 1:

Like I remember those days I was I always I was always driving such beaters that the idea of having comprehensive like if you get in a crash, you're also your car is also insured and never made any sense. I was like, this car is worth $300. It's an extra $100 a month for Comprehensive. I remember when I sort of like got my first car that I think I was like, I was financing. And they were like, no, no, you legally have to have Comprehensive on it. Because it's technically like the bank owns the car. And I was like, what? Comprehensive. What is this madness? Yeah, right. Comprehensive. That's your body. You're strictly liability at this point. Oh, my God, at best. Okay. So I called this song Whips and Chains by Jack Harlow. That's actually not the name of the song. It's called Lovin' On Me. It's very popular right now, I think, with the sort of younger set. But the reason I said I don't want to come out of my haircut being the kind of guy that goes on TikTok and does a kind of a video to this song. Let me just play you a little bit of this song. It starts with the Whips and Chains line, which, again, I thought was the actual title. Okay, so the line, and again, just, you know, heads up. I don't know where people come down on this. He says, I'm vanilla, baby, but I'll choke you. And by the way, the beginning of the song, I Don't Want to Whips and Chains, that is a song from, I think, the 80s. That's someone else's song that's being sampled. But that line, I'm vanilla baby but I'll choke you Has really spoken to a certain group of white guys On the line, particularly on TikTok Where there's a certain kind of guy who is a white guy But thinks he has a certain kind of, I don't know, pizzazz Oh, me Yeah, exactly, it's sort of a classic Andrew Walsh meets Buzz Aldrin Kind of character on TikTok But there's just this string of, I would say, extremely regrettable little quick TikTok videos where there's like a guy who's got the kind of haircut I'm trying to avoid getting later today, who's just got like maybe like a sweater on, but a gold chain. And he's playing this Jack Harlow song under the thing and he's just kind of like looking at the camera and kind of like, you know, doing his stroking his hand around his chin and just kind of being as sexy as he can be just to let the world know that, you know, he's he's vanilla baby, but he'll still, you know, be very, you know, his lovemaking will be without equal despite, you know, whatever you might think about this guy. It's just this weird, to me, it's just like a weird dog whistle to a certain kind of white dude that I'm not, it ain't for me, and I'm hoping I don't have that haircut by the time today's over.

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Do you think there's anybody who flirts by saying, by just being straightforward and saying, my lovemaking has no equal? Like when they meet somebody. And it's not working. And it's total BS.

00:24:45 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 1:

I am getting just a wee bit worried about tonight's recording of wait wait don't tell me Andrew because I am I don't know if you can kind of hear it in my voice but like I'm I'm

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I'm stifling the, I have a tickle in the back of my throat and I'm, if I, if I sort of, if I say something with a little bit too much emphasis, believe it or not, maybe it's causing my throat muscles to work a little harder and I'm almost coughing like kind of all the time right now. And I'm using this mute button of mine a lot here But tonight on stage Thankfully I do have a mute button I'm doing wait wait don't tell me here in Chicago But there's two things One even if I mute my microphone If I'm having a coughing fit The person sitting right next to me Their microphone might pick it up And I'm also doing the show tonight One of the other panelists is Paula Poundstone Who I'm not trying to make light But she'll tell you this She's had a persistent cough for 20 years She's also never heard of the mute button At Wait Wait Don't Tell Me Which is quite a combo But I feel like she's already called dibs On being the person who's coughing on stage all the time We can't have two people It's my job to swoop in and talk when she starts coughing But if I'm also coughing Then what are we going to do We're up shit creek

00:26:04 - 00:26:11 | Speaker 1:

Or you're just normalizing it You get everybody to cough a lot So that Paula feels good What a night at the Studebaker Theater

00:26:11 - 00:26:17 | Speaker 2:

You know Andrew who the guest is tonight, the Not My Job guest, relevant

00:26:17 - 00:26:23 | Speaker 1:

to your interests. Oh, I saw that you had a note in the show sheet that I might have a special interest. Do you actually want me to guess?

00:26:24 - 00:26:31 | Speaker 2:

Why don't you guess while I'm thanking our donors today? How about we feed two birds with that scone, my friend?

00:26:31 - 00:26:34 | Speaker 1:

So I get one guess per donor. Per person, yes.

00:26:35 - 00:26:50 | Speaker 2:

Exactly. But you can do, we could do the 20 questions thing, or whatever you want to call it, where you can ask me, is it an animal or mineral? What if it was a mineral? What if we're just in interviewing a lump of org all right oh god you think we could book zinc in this economy

00:26:52 - 00:27:01 | Speaker 1:

i know here's what i'm going to do i'm going to make one guess per thank you i'm going to give you so six names until i get it right but you should think the donor first and then i'll make

00:27:01 - 00:27:23 | Speaker 2:

my guess i also want to apologize in advance in order for me to be on the screen that has the donor's names i cannot be on the screen that has my mute button and so i may be you're going going to do great and maybe oh I may have actually I think I figured it out I think I figured it out Andrew I think I've got it all going here so I can start by thanking Jennifer Drost in Phoenix

00:27:23 - 00:27:38 | Speaker 1:

Arizona thank you now do you want me to make my first guess yes please a lot of people when they see Janine Garofalo's name they think of me because I was such a big solid guess good or no

00:27:38 - 00:27:55 | Speaker 2:

Not correct, but a very – the way that your brain is working I think is good in that you are thinking of people who are in various worlds that you tend to – various content pools that you tend to swim in.

00:27:55 - 00:28:03 | Speaker 1:

Okay. Oh, God. Anybody want to swim in my content pool? It's warm. Almost too warm.

00:28:04 - 00:28:43 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. Kind of like questionably warm. And oddly warmly right near me. Yeah. The area right around me is extra warm, and that's not for any reason. Okay. All right. All right. So it's not Janine Garofalo. God, I would love that. But it is not. But it is Jennifer Drost in Phoenix, Arizona, who's helping us out today. Thank you, Jennifer. By the way, all these folks are supporting TBTL with a donation. And, you know, in a moment we'll be talking about the podcasting business. And I want to say in advance, boy, are we lucky. Boy, are we lucky to have folks like Christine Pernula in Renton, Washington. Christine Pernula in Renton. Thank you, Christine.

00:28:44 - 00:28:53 | Speaker 1:

Thank you, Christine. Christine, allow me to take another guess as to who will be guesting on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me Tonight. Is it Bob Odenkirk, by any chance?

00:28:53 - 00:29:16 | Speaker 2:

Oh, another great guess, but a negatory ghostwriter. All right. Okay. Do you want me to, I can give you, and David Locke of Redmond, Washington, specifically asked that I propose this to you. Thank you, David, by the way, for your support. I can start giving you some hints. I can kind of get you into the general topic, the subject matter.

00:29:17 - 00:29:31 | Speaker 1:

I worry that if you give me hints, it'll make me more nervous because the pressure, it'll heat the pressure up more. So let's not do that yet. I may ask for when I run out of names. I got a couple more I want to run by you. Okay, so is it time?

00:29:31 - 00:29:34 | Speaker 2:

Do you want to throw one out now after I've thanked David Locke of Redmond, Washington?

00:29:34 - 00:29:41 | Speaker 1:

Of Redmond, Washington. Thank you, David. Is it, this is a long shot, but is it David Byrne?

00:29:43 - 00:29:53 | Speaker 2:

No, it's not. But again, a very good guess. David Byrne has been making the rounds. Yeah. You know, promoting the re-release of Stop Making Sense and all of that. But no, it's not the great.

00:29:53 - 00:30:31 | Speaker 1:

But it's out of theaters now. I thought of that as I said that he would have been doing this while it was still in theaters. My guess is he was on wait. wait in the last two months. I haven't checked. I don't listen to the show. I don't think much of it. But I bet you he has been on it and that is not who it is but Andrew. Well, you don't want any more hints. Nope. I don't want any more hints. Nope. And that's exactly why Sarah Sunt of Boise, Idaho. Sarah. Up there on the shelf. Up there on the bench. On the bench. Bench on the bench. Sarah has so much respect for you, Andrew, because you don't ask for hints when it comes to guessing. Yes. Thank you, Sarah. Not my job guest is.

00:30:31 - 00:30:35 | Speaker 2:

Thank you for letting us stay in your driveway in an RV. That was really a beautiful time.

00:30:36 - 00:30:44 | Speaker 1:

We'll be back out there soon. Jenny Evans is in. Oh, wait. You got a guess before I think. I think I missed that. Jenny Evans of Bonsal, California.

00:30:44 - 00:31:01 | Speaker 2:

I'm running out of. I had scribbled down a few ideas right out the gate when we decided we were going to do this. And I also wrote down David Cross. But I think you would have been more excited when I said Bob Odenkirk. A lot of Davids, but not. Ew, David. Yeah. Okay. Oh! Is it ew, David? That's not a hint. That's not a hint. I did see someone that

00:31:01 - 00:31:21 | Speaker 1:

when I was filming the training videos for that big software concern, someone who had parked their car in the same area I was parking my rental car just had like a bumper sticker that just said eww David and it made me laugh every time I walked past it like it just was really funny

00:31:21 - 00:31:27 | Speaker 2:

nice, let's see I'm not ready for a, I'm not supposed to go yet right we have to thank Jenny first? You just guessed

00:31:28 - 00:31:47 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, right. So you used up another David. Are there any of the Davids you'd like to get out of your system? No, I think that'll be the end of the Davids for now. Thank you, Jenny. Oh, my goodness. Look who it is. It's our friend Amina Alsadi. Amina! In Washington, District of Columbia from Today Explained from the TBTL Week in Review videos. That's right.

00:31:47 - 00:31:55 | Speaker 2:

Actually, Amina will be joining us this Friday. Or I guess we send him out on Saturdays on the Week in Review video. Once again, a returning guest. That's right.

00:31:55 - 00:31:56 | Speaker 1:

And you don't believe in a guy.

00:31:56 - 00:32:00 | Speaker 2:

Amina is a very good friend to us and the show. Thank you, Amina.

00:32:00 - 00:32:04 | Speaker 1:

That's absolutely right. Amina, thank you so much. And thank you. You get one more guess, Andrew.

00:32:05 - 00:32:18 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. So is it, I mean, this is a long shot. Is it Fred, I'm going to put two names here. Is it Fred Schneider and or Kate Pearson of the B-52s?

00:32:21 - 00:32:59 | Speaker 1:

Andrew, it's Fred Schneider. Is it really? It's Fred Schneider. Aren't you glad I didn't take a hint? Aren't you amazing? That, I thought, was such a long shot. How did you do that? Is he promoting something? Does he have a solo record out or something? I don't even know. But it's Fred Schneider from the B-52s. Funky Little Shack. Funky Little Guess. Like, Funky Little Guess indeed. Andrew, I am absolutely flabbergasted. And I kind of won because we still have somebody to thank, right? I mean, I don't know. Well, you did it on Amina's watch.

00:32:59 - 00:33:01 | Speaker 2:

Oh, I did. Okay, yes.

00:33:01 - 00:33:19 | Speaker 1:

By extension, I think Amina wins. Amina, your watch has ended. There was a lot of, I don't really know how the rules of this game work, but what I know is my friend, you guessed correctly, it is Fred Schneider from the B-52s. That is, people might think that that long pause from me was a coughing fit.

00:33:20 - 00:33:22 | Speaker 2:

I thought I lost the line. I really did.

00:33:22 - 00:34:01 | Speaker 1:

me sitting here in you know you want to know where my brain went and this is actually not i'm not proud of this andrew because this this is a poor reflection on my opinion of my good friend andrew walsh who by the way you are one of the most i would say reliable and least sketchy people i know but my first thought was like is it on the wait wait website oh i wouldn't that's no it was that was so andrew that was so incredibly amazing as a guest that i just thought like did i write it in the show sheet accidentally did i like like i was like there's no way that andrew just straight up guessed that with no hint but my friend you did well here's here in here incredibly

00:34:01 - 00:35:00 | Speaker 2:

in short things are going extremely well frank here was my uh thought process on that when i said please take me through it i said janine graffalo at first not because i really thought it was her but because that is one of those names because i was so obsessed with janine garofalo in the 90s and we talk about that on the show a lot it's one of those things where when people see something janine related they will email us a lot or or what have you right um and so when i said janine garofalo you seemed very excited that i was along the right lines of something that you know an artist who i appreciate a lot maybe in an outsized manner that people now associate with me and i was trying to think of other things like that and i thought the b-52s was quite the the reach but i'm i'm obviously very happy to get it right and i'm also looking i don't know if you know why he's on the show but no idea i'm in a uh i'm on an article now from about two months Let's go.

00:35:00 - 00:35:19 | Speaker 4:

October 9th from the New Yorker. I don't know if you've heard of that. I think it's a magazine out of Chicago. It says, the B-52 is back on the boardwalk at a Jersey Shore pinball museum. Members of the iconic New Wave band talk about Bat Boy the Blob and their new Vegas residency. So I guess maybe that's the deal there. So they are back in the news a little bit.

00:35:19 - 00:35:28 | Speaker 3:

If you see a faded sign by the side of the wind, that's a casino in Las Vegas. I got that, yeah. I took the iconic part of that song

00:35:28 - 00:35:40 | Speaker 4:

But made it more about Las Vegas and I can I just punch it if you see a neon sign maybe like would that be more appropriate for Vegas? I don't know, you know, I don't you know that will say a neon sign, but do you do the voice?

00:35:40 - 00:37:18 | Speaker 3:

They don't also don't really see the thing is they're post neon in Vegas That's what you're really what you're showing is your age there Yeah me with my cool Jack Harlow haircut. Nobody ever thinks that I'm actually 47 In fact, I get that a lot like no way you're 47 because you like that Jack Harlow song But, yeah, to me, the neon signification of Vegas is, sadly, that's gone. Do you remember, speaking of commercials, there, and I bet you you didn't see this as much as I did, because probably at the time when I was seeing this commercial, I was maybe watching more sports than you were, more professional sports, and or just more general TV, like, with commercials. But there was this, it's probably Google-able, but there was a commercial that was in heavy rotation when I was younger, That was basically like a cowboy, a neon sign cowboy from Vegas, from like, you know, old town Vegas, where you've got some cowboy doing something, basically come on in for slots and poker or whatever. But then he gets down off of the building, and I can't remember what he does. No, you know what? I'm thinking of a Simpsons episode. I think he finds a lady from another sign. i feel like maybe he goes and he he sort of like there's a there's maybe a woman who's in a different neon sign and maybe they go do something together like they walk off or i forget why i just have this like distant foggy memory of a neon a neon sign guy getting down off of the vegas building he's on and then he's a cowboy in my remember in my memory and then he walks off and he does something what he does i can't remember yeah there's no chance and this is a stretch here

00:37:19 - 00:37:38 | Speaker 4:

There's no chance that this was that iconic, and I only say iconic because I probably had it on a VHS tape, but episode of The Simpsons that I believe was a treehouse of horror where some of the signs came alive and started walking off the buildings. I believe they do show a neon cowboy doing that, but that could have been a nod to the commercial that you're talking about.

00:37:39 - 00:37:43 | Speaker 3:

It's possible. I'm trying to type with one hand.

00:37:43 - 00:37:54 | Speaker 4:

Wait, wait, wait. I found it. Wait, I found it. Miller please don't have a commercial oh you son of a gun they're back I thought I got my ad blocker working again and now YouTube here

00:37:54 - 00:38:02 | Speaker 2:

yes this was

00:38:02 - 00:38:28 | Speaker 4:

definitely the song so here it is you got the cowboy the neon cowboy like you say is like high above the street of Vegas and he's sort of like waving and then across the street or across the way is a cowgirl in a cowgirl dress, and I think she winks at him. Now, down below, there's a real couple, a man and a woman, and they're feeling, I don't know what that look was. I don't know if it was lusty or what, but they both look like...

00:38:28 - 00:38:36 | Speaker 3:

Or is it horror that these signs are coming? It might have been that. I mean, that's definitely some kind of end times prophecy. Oh, I see. It's very hot.

00:38:36 - 00:38:57 | Speaker 4:

They both looked not sexy hot, but they wiped their brow because it's so hot in Vegas on this night. And now the Cowboy, the Neon Cowboy, is wiping his brow as well right as a Miller Genuine Draft semi-truck pulls up outside the casino. Got it. Now he's coming down. It is terrifying.

00:38:58 - 00:39:04 | Speaker 1:

For those who've discovered its smooth draft taste, the world is a very cool place.

00:39:06 - 00:39:23 | Speaker 4:

He has walked across the street. We see the temperature literally go down into the 30s. It starts snowing. He holds out his hand and the cowgirl comes down and then they drive away on top of the semi truck at the end in each other's arms. Love it.

00:39:23 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 3:

Now, this makes me think, Andrew, there was a period of time where Miller Lite was officially the thirst quenching beer. I think that they had a series of commercials. Can you see if you can find this other commercial I'm thinking of? I don't know if it was Miller Lite or not. there was a commercial I think at around this time a beer commercial where a bunch of people are standing around at an intersection in I think New York City and it's in the words of Fred Schneider hot as an oven and the song that they're this is how we could find it the song that they're using in the commercial is the song Mississippi Queen by the band or by

00:40:00 - 00:40:15 | Speaker 1:

By Mountain, I think, is maybe the band that does the song Mississippi Queen. But everyone is standing waiting to cross this street, I think, and it's just roastingly hot. Can you see if there's a Miller Lite commercial or a beer commercial that uses the song Mississippi Queen by Mountain?

00:40:16 - 00:40:18 | Speaker 2:

Let's see. I'm getting some, but I'm not seeing.

00:40:18 - 00:40:42 | Speaker 1:

If this confirms my theory that there was a period of time where I think Miller Lite thought, here's how we fit into the beer landscape. We are going to be the most thirst-quenching beer. We're going to show it really hot in Las Vegas, and then the temperature cools down thanks to Miller Lite. We're going to show a really, really hot and sweltering intersection in New York City, and then everything's going to get cooled down there. Oh, maybe it's this one.

00:40:42 - 00:40:54 | Speaker 2:

Okay, because I think they might have used that song in several commercials. I'm not sure, because there's one that's popping up called Gator, so they're in a bog or a swamp somewhere. Oh, okay.

00:40:54 - 00:40:57 | Speaker 1:

I'm thinking of one where there's a packed intersection.

00:40:57 - 00:41:08 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think I found it, and I'm just going to go ahead and skip a dip this ad. Oh, wait, shoot. Are these guys in the jungle? Could this flash between the jungle and the city? Let's find out. Only the internet knows for sure.

00:41:08 - 00:41:08 | Speaker 1:

We'll find out.

00:41:09 - 00:41:20 | Speaker 2:

No, this isn't good. They're in the jungle. They see a gator. I wonder if... But now there's a bunch of really hot ladies out in some shack. Oh, okay.

00:41:20 - 00:41:23 | Speaker 1:

Could you send me that link, please? Some shed. You had me at hot ladies.

00:41:23 - 00:41:27 | Speaker 2:

Out in the swamp somewhere. So now all these guys are...

00:41:27 - 00:41:28 | Speaker 1:

Can you tell them that I listened to Jack Harlow?

00:41:29 - 00:41:30 | Speaker 2:

I will do that, yeah.

00:41:30 - 00:41:32 | Speaker 1:

Could you casually mention that I listened to Jack Harlow?

00:41:32 - 00:41:38 | Speaker 2:

So that's a real bummer. I thought we were in the city on that one. The Mississippi Queen all points back to this jungle scenario.

00:41:38 - 00:42:12 | Speaker 1:

Maybe this is what happens a lot on this program when I try to talk about things, whether it's the NBA All-Star Game of 1987 or beer commercials. i'm probably combining i'm probably combining the actual like the the commercial you just played with the the folks in las vegas with something else but i definitely remembered because i had never heard that song mississippi queen before and also it would make way more sense with a commercial that's set down in the bayou or something and when you say jungle do you think it's maybe the bayou yeah yeah it's like saying bayou like that yeah i think you're right now

00:42:12 - 00:42:41 | Speaker 2:

Now, here's one, and again, I am going to throttle my inability to use an ad blocker. This is another from that same campaign. This is 1989, MGD Hot Diner, and it's put a spell on you, and it's the same exact campaign. Get out of the old and into the cold. Okay, right. We're in a diner. A guy with cowboy boots walks into a diner, kind of 50s style. As soon as he walks by the jukebox, it just starts playing that song. Everybody's sweaty and hot and checking him out.

00:42:42 - 00:42:45 | Speaker 1:

I was hoping you'd say that.

00:42:45 - 00:42:50 | Speaker 2:

Oh, you could have just said it. The diner waitress is giving him eyes.

00:42:50 - 00:43:04 | Speaker 1:

Shit in one hand and hope in the other and see which fills up faster. Wait, what are you responding to? The woman going, I was hoping you'd say that. You could have ordered one. You were here already. Were you just waiting for this guy to come in and cool the place down with an M.T.D.?

00:43:04 - 00:43:17 | Speaker 2:

So he walks in and she's eyeing him up and down, right? And she's got a real lusty look in her eyes. and when he orders that I think she was hoping he would say that because if he ordered some other beer she would have less interest in him sexually I see

00:43:17 - 00:43:18 | Speaker 1:

so that was a reflection on him

00:43:18 - 00:43:29 | Speaker 2:

I think she was like oh man this guy's got everything as long as he doesn't order an IPA yeah exactly as long as this guy doesn't order Bodhi Zaffa I am into his do you have a break side

00:43:29 - 00:43:32 | Speaker 1:

do you guys have save it for your

00:43:32 - 00:43:33 | Speaker 2:

haircut appointment

00:43:39 - 00:46:31 | Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to Top Story. Speaking of haircut appointments, I don't know how much time we have here because we've also got blurs days to get to. But I just want to mention that some sad news in the world of podcasting in terms of shows that I love. But Spotify has announced that they are not going to be renewing their relationship with the podcast heavyweight. jonathan goldstein and um kalila holt and the rest of the crew there that amazing amazing show that i love so much heavyweight one of my very favorite podcasts out there i saw a tweet from heavyweight that was saying uh you know we've reached the end of our time with spotify but uh but they didn't say that the show is over because it's such a good show i feel like i'm hoping that it will it will pop up somewhere else and i think i think somebody i think another network would be would be very smart to go ahead and and grab heavyweight uh but it's just another indication of kind of like where the podcast you know world is going there was this article in uh slate today i think that was talking about basically like the the story on podcasting lately particularly because Spotify, which bought Gimlet and then fired or laid off a ton of the people. who it had brought on, um, the, the, the narrative around podcasting has been the podcasting is really failing, but this article in slate, which I'm trying to click back to here, I'm working off of one computer. Um, it's basically saying oddly enough, the, the podcast industry is still growing. Like if you look at it statistically, like, uh, like, you know, there are more people listening to podcasts this year than have ever listened before. It's not like podcasting is becoming less um sort of uh popular as a thing it's just that a lot of the companies the tech companies and others who jumped in and spent all this money particularly like they they keep pointing out spotify's like spending 20 million dollars for a podcast from megan and harry right and things like things of that nature that that was a really bad bet and that this these like you know spending like in the you know in the case of joe rogan 200 million dollars although i guess it remains to be seen if that's actually been something that's financially a good decision for spotify he's he's not apparently going anywhere but like basically the what somebody said in this slate article was what you have are a couple of big companies that that basically didn't know how the business works and they jumped in and they dumped a bunch of money on dumb things and those things have failed but it doesn't mean that podcasting Mm hmm. Like, you know, writ large is a failed experiment and we will have no podcast. I mean, podcasting is actually growing. There's just been some pretty some pretty public missteps by mostly people that know nothing about podcasting, broadcasting and being entertaining.

00:46:32 - 00:47:02 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. And, you know, this what I'm about to say applies to us, but also applies to the really heavy hitters in podcasting, too, like the most famous ones. But like the model of people having conversations, whether that's a Joe Rogan with a guest or you and I, you know, cutting it up together, whatever, like the overhead on that, even even if you're a huge podcast that's in L.A. and it has video and all these other expensive expenses, that's still way more.

00:47:02 - 00:47:07 | Speaker 1:

That just shows you our world like those L.A. podcasts. I don't know what I'm saying here.

00:47:08 - 00:47:47 | Speaker 2:

I'll be honest with you. I'm editing the Blursdays and talking at the same time, so I'm really not doing my best job today. But you know what I mean. The Joe Rogan obviously has a Joe Rogan experience. Is it still called that? I guess it is. They obviously have a way bigger budget than us, right? But still, generally speaking, it's more sustainable to have people talking in the mics to each other as opposed to what Heavyweight does, what any of these like highly highly produced storytelling podcasts do now i'm a fan of some of these highly produced storytelling podcasts including heavyweight like i'm not up to the latest on that but like that show is is oh my god objectively perfect as the stew bot would say like

00:47:47 - 00:48:00 | Speaker 1:

i love that show premiere of this latest season with jonathan is revisiting his relationship with a childhood friend is just absolutely jaw-droppingly good yeah i i will i will catch up on it eventually

00:48:00 - 00:48:30 | Speaker 2:

But yeah, so that's the deal. Like some shows, I would argue it's like, well, you know what you're producing in the style that you're producing. It's just not sustainable because it's just not going to, you know, whatever, whatever. It might just not be to my taste also. But a show like Heavyweight, like it's totally worth it, you know? And so we we need room for all of them. But like the model that we use, I understand why, like you couldn't produce couldn't produce Heavyweight on our budget, you know? And that's where it sort of seems like we need to sort of figure out this puzzle.

00:48:31 - 00:49:58 | Speaker 1:

But my my my question is, will we have any shows like Heavyweight in 10 years? You know, when we were at APM, we had this incredible show in the dark. I say we I mean, we just worked at the company that also made it. And it I mean, that show literally got someone who was it would appear wrongfully imprisoned for many, many years on murders that it was very unlikely the person committed out of jail. Like you can't do more as a show than that. In fact, you know, Serial kind of was this watershed moment for podcasting. I mean, the show Serial that was sort of APM's version of Serial. I mean, it was that show was incredible. And yet APM decided it's not worth the resources for this. So if we don't have public radio stations and entities paying for it, and if it's too expensive for for profit companies to pay for or they've decided it's not worth the money, who's going to pay for it? Who is going to actually fund really important, you know, like well reported and labor intensive podcasting things like heavyweight? I mean, This American Life seems pretty unassailable now because it's it's a popular show and beloved. I listen to it every week. But it's like, are we going to basically just have This American Life when it's all said and done? Will that be the only show like this? Because, again, who is going to be funding it?

00:49:59 - 00:50:27 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's. I mean, I don't know that that's the question. Or will there just be fewer of these shows, you know, like before podcasting, there was This American Life and Snap Judgment. And I mean, those are different models, too, but I'll group them together a little bit in the storytelling universe. And like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, we're obviously it's going to contract. We're seeing it contracting. I don't think it's going to contract to zero, but it is scary. We're seeing a lot of good stuff go out with the bathwater.

00:50:27 - 00:51:41 | Speaker 1:

well because the because it used to be the case that public radio like the stations and also the public radio you know networks that were creating content and of course there's still stuff out there i'm not trying to say that that there's there's a lot of great stuff that's being created even now but none of it seems like it's actually penciling out like probably i mean look i was talking to sam sanders about this i think i've already mentioned this on our show but when i was doing live wire with sam sanders he had a really great show that he was doing called um i think it was called into it um and uh and it was a wonderful show that i liked that was not ultimately able to pencil out from a cost you know from an income to uh to expense sort of position like i just i feel like public radio used to support a lot of this stuff and i can promise you that probably if you're listening to something created by WNYC if you're listening to something created by PRX if you're listening to something that's really labor-intensive and good and that you're enjoying created by some either a station or a large public radio content creator if it's good and labor-intensive it's probably losing money so like I don't know what that means

00:51:41 - 00:53:51 | Speaker 2:

for 10 years from now you know what this is a little bit of a change of subject because I don't have answers for what you're talking about I haven't even seen this slate story that you referenced so i i don't know what to say about that one thing in my own personal life that i've been very happy about is rekindling my relationship with on the media and i'm thinking about that because they were fundraising recently and you want to talk about you know wnyc studios is one of the um you know main companies that has been you know the victim to a lot of these cutbacks that we're seeing they've been in the news and a lot of good shows have gone um have gone away because of budget situations and I uh I used to be like a very intensely loyal on the media listener for a long time uh and I'm talking about even kind of pre-podcasting or when podcasting was new but it was appointment listening to me on on the radio as well um and then in kind of recent years and I do sort of think it had to do with some things they were doing um as far as content is concerned I loved on the media because it was the type of show where if something happened that was media related in the news that week i knew i was going to hear their take on it later on and like that's all i wanted was like contemporary conversation about what had been happening in the media landscape that week they started to become very ambitious in a way that i think a lot of shows and hosts and producers do where they they i think they felt like they may have been on a treadmill or something and they started producing a lot of stuff that was just like a one hour deep dive on one topic or something like that you know and it wasn't as timely and i kind of i drifted away from that because i just liked the i liked the magazine format with four or five topics that covered the news of the week through the lens of the media not like let's really get to the bottom of x y or z and i don't know why exactly they've gone back to it seems like they've gone back to kind of their original model and they now do a like midweek drop of like a i don't know 15 20 minute show that'll be that'll look at one topic and it is so good uh And Brooke Laddstone is still there. Bob Garfield got pushed out a while back, and I think for the better. And they have a producer, Micah Lowinger, who is kind of a co-host. Now, it sounds like you're up to date on this, too.

00:53:51 - 00:53:58 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just listened to the Is the New York Times a Tech Company episode, which I thought was actually really, really well done.

00:53:58 - 00:54:41 | Speaker 2:

Really good, right? And, oh, in fact, I referenced this on the show the other day. They did do some really good reporting on the state of podcasting in the past couple of weeks as well and addressed some of this stuff. And, of course, they had to address the fact that we're in this. Like we are we are we work for NYC studio WNYC studios and we, you know, have to weather this ourselves. And anyway, they did a really good fundraising pitch a while back. And I'm like, I'm just like so totally on board again. And so when you hear stories about, you know, the the the death of shows or potentially the I don't want to say the death of shows because we were talking about heavyweight. And I don't think that that's dead. I think that we'll find another home and another funding model. I would absolutely pay for Heavyweight.

00:54:41 - 00:54:51 | Speaker 1:

I mean, I was paying for it by way of my Spotify. But, like, if Heavyweight went independent the way we are and said, hey, can you help support this, that would absolutely be well-spent money for me.

00:54:51 - 00:55:16 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, I would definitely support that. And, again, does that show – is its budget so – I can't talk. is its budget so huge that they'd be able to have the same model as us or they would probably need some other funding mechanisms as well but they will i just believe that they will but anyway it does it does make you and i'm not saying this is a pitch for donating to tbtl but i'm not not saying

00:55:16 - 00:55:22 | Speaker 3:

that either no i mean honestly follow your heart your heart leads you to tbtl.net where you can

00:55:22 - 00:55:51 | Speaker 2:

then support this program these moments really do make you want to wrap your arms around the shows that you love and support them in whatever way you possibly can. And that's where I am with On the Media right now because I did kind of take a moment and just think, my God, if they're making these drastic cuts at WNYC, if I woke up one day and On the Media was gone, like that would impact me. Like that would, I can't even imagine how I would feel. I would be so bummed out about that. So I'm very happy to support them and others.

00:55:53 - 00:56:17 | Speaker 1:

There's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll. You can't just listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing but fun.

00:56:23 - 00:56:34 | Speaker 2:

Oh, we got some Blur's Days for you. We got a Blur's Day from Chris who says, Happy Blur's Day to Angela from Ohio. It's the big 50 for a 10. Happy Blur's Day, Angela. Nice.

00:56:35 - 00:57:30 | Speaker 3:

That's a tuna, bro. Hold on, hold on. Hey, can I use this as an opportunity, Andrew? Yes, please. To ask the hive mind of TBTL10s something? Mm-hmm, please. There has to be a way. I realize this, that when I'm playing these drops, excuse me, a little throat clearing there, and also reflecting on how great your Fred Schneider guest was. When I'm playing these little drops, you know, it's become kind of a thing, like particularly during Blur's Day messages, where the next drop will sort of auto-play because the way that I use, for these particular drops that are just in a big, you know, kind of whatever you want to call it, file somewhere, I'm using Apple Music. I'm using what we used to call iTunes. And it auto-plays the next thing. There's got to be a way to just turn off, play the next thing, right? There's got to be, and I was on the internet.

00:57:30 - 00:57:49 | Speaker 2:

You're going to scoff at me on this because it has been so, so long since I used that, but I got to ask. This is probably a dumb question. But does it still have the, when it was iTunes, it had the situation where there's a check mark next to each one, and if you unchecked the one after it, it wouldn't autoplay. Can you select every single file and uncheck it?

00:57:50 - 00:57:58 | Speaker 3:

Let's try it. I just tried that, and let's see, I don't, okay, I'm trying to get them all, let's see, ooh.

00:57:58 - 00:58:04 | Speaker 2:

If it's your entire system, it might take a while, I'm not sure, but I remember, like, if you had, like, things. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

00:58:04 - 00:58:13 | Speaker 3:

The problem is, that might fix it on this computer that I'm on right now. Well, let's try it. Okay, let's see. New Hampshire. Ba-ba-ba-bing. No, it didn't work.

00:58:13 - 00:58:14 | Speaker 1:

Ba-ba-ba-bing.

00:58:15 - 00:58:17 | Speaker 2:

Although I like the ba-ba-bing. Oh, just let this.

00:58:17 - 00:58:23 | Speaker 1:

New Hampshire. New Hampshire. Beep, beep, watch out Beep, beep, watch out

00:58:23 - 00:58:27 | Speaker 3:

Deal with it, Cate Blanchett To me, it look like a level coming to me

00:58:27 - 00:58:29 | Speaker 2:

He's not even levitating me down

00:58:29 - 00:58:37 | Speaker 3:

Oh my god, guys, we are crushing So it seems like it's still autoplays I don't know if you were able to hear any of that I don't know if you were able to hear any of that Four straight minutes of audio

00:58:37 - 00:58:39 | Speaker 2:

That was amazing, just hit play

00:58:39 - 00:59:00 | Speaker 3:

Hey, Jen, what's up, it's Greg No, actually, I'm kind of busy right now Whoa, what the hell Oh, you know what that is, Andrew? I told you that there's all these weird... By the way, happy birthday, everyone. This is how we celebrate on the show. Some people are going, maybe you guys could actually get swept up in that round of closing.

00:59:01 - 00:59:04 | Speaker 2:

People are like, I think I'm going to donate to heavyweight now.

00:59:04 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 3:

I told you that there were a bunch of... If I go way, way far into my kind of Apple music, there are a lot of little video clips that I don't know how those got in there. Like I didn't ever intentionally go grab them. I must have at some point through bit torrenting and the like, I must have gotten a bunch of folders that were full of like, that was like Kermit the Frog that you just heard. But it was a video, like a two second video of Kermit the Frog, which is also, by the way, crashed my entire system. Oh, great. So the thing I was going to say is, yes, there are those check marks and there might be a way for me to do that and undo that. But on my main computer I use at the Madrona Hill Studio, I'm using an updated version of Apple Music that does not have the check marks. So what I would love, if anyone has any ideas, because I spent a little bit of time the other day trying to figure this out. I need to figure out how to turn off the play the next thing function.

01:00:00 - 01:00:15 | Speaker 2:

so that I'm not constantly trying to jump. I mean, it's a little bit fun to play those things, but mostly it's just, like, annoying because I'll try to play, like, this. Oh, my God! He unmuted! I'm not a man, I'm a turtle. It'll just want to go to the next thing.

01:00:17 - 01:00:19 | Speaker 1:

You say I'm not mad, I'm a turtle?

01:00:20 - 01:00:34 | Speaker 2:

No, I'm not a man, I'm a turtle. I'm not a man, I'm a turtle. I grabbed that from somewhere. Who knows? Let's see here. Let's let a rip this morning. That's what it wants to do next I mean I know you find this I'm glad you like it Here we go ready

01:00:34 - 01:00:46 | Speaker 1:

New York's hottest club is crease Pasta playa hater Podcasts are the future of show Hey that one I like to get wet though huh Training day

01:00:46 - 01:00:59 | Speaker 2:

Oh you pulled that one recently Oh the bowler Who needs a movie Anyway You know what We have blurs days to get to I apologize So anyway if anyone knows How to turn that off in my system Please let me know Or don't.

01:01:00 - 01:03:40 | Speaker 1:

Or don't. Because I love it. This is the happiest I've been all week. Chris says, happy Blur's Day to Angela from Ohio. It's a big 50 for a 10. I just wanted to reset that. Happy Blur's Day, Angela. Thank you. We met on a BFF app. And Karen says, I'd like to wish Josh a very happy 38th Blur's Day. He's a loyal 10 and a 10 of a husband, dad and dog dad. I hope he has a great year ahead of him. Is it too early? You got a fish sandwich? With more time to dink around in the garage and woodworking shop, love, Karen, Elliot, and Pearl. No way, Jose. Ann in Oklahoma says, I'd like to wish Natalie in Minneapolis a great Blur's Day. I can honestly say you don't look one day older than when we first became Ten Pals. I hope the new house is feeling like home for you and Maxie. That's from Ann in Oklahoma. Now, Tane, I can get into. Happy Blurze, Natalie. Allen in Sacramento, who, by the way, sent us that bowling video earlier this week. Oh, nice. Yes, as to why it is we should wear bowling shoes. That's right. He's not Spider Pig anymore. He's Harry Plopper. I was hoping I could get a Blurze shout-out as my birthday was this Wednesday, and this autumn marks my five-year anniversary listening to TBTL. So I'm almost not a new listener anymore Happy Blur's Day, Ellen Now this one, I can't even Jay, I thought we were friends You're going to make me read this, Jay? Alright, here we go I mean, get ready for me to blush I'd like to wish a very happy Blur's Day to my fiancé, Stefan I had a great time living in sin with you for the last year Thank you for supporting me in everything I do Building a family of barn cats and Maine coons and mesers and palms loving me despite my nighttime zoomies being sexy af and making me cackle with your buddy i'm afraid i just blew myself and making me cackle with your badinka dink i love you uh it says badinka dink maybe they've modified it i love you and i can't wait to be your wife happy blurs day stefan you're staring at my my genitals um i need to Actually, some Claire, for real, though, happy Blur's Day, and you guys seem super happy, and I couldn't be happier for you. I do have a real question for you, though, Luke. Jay, in the message, wrote, like Stephen Curry, not Stephen King. Is it Stephen Curry? Did I say that? I always think of Steph Curry, but I don't think I've ever said the full. Am I pronouncing that correctly?

01:03:41 - 01:03:43 | Speaker 2:

Did you say Stephen Curry at some point on the show?

01:03:44 - 01:03:48 | Speaker 1:

No, but, like, it's spelled like Stephen in this message. Oh, got it, got it, got it.

01:03:48 - 01:03:49 | Speaker 2:

So it's like Stephen Curry, yeah.

01:03:49 - 01:03:53 | Speaker 1:

It's Stephen Curry. I said that right. Okay, Stephen Curry. Absolutely right. I see.

01:03:54 - 01:04:04 | Speaker 2:

So this is Jay clarifying the person that they're having all kinds of wild times. Badink-a-dink. All kinds of badink-a-dink times, apparently.

01:04:04 - 01:04:32 | Speaker 1:

Because I always think of Steph Curry, but I don't know if I've ever heard the whole thing. Why don't you purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka? All right. Marshall in Amsterdam says, I want to wish a happy Blur's Day to Priscilla Wu in San Francisco. Hey, Priscilla. Hey, love it. It was awesome to have you come visit the Netherlands for Tulip Time and King's Day in April, and I hope your next year is filled with good times and lots of travels. Proust! Nice. Did you get drunk and urinate on people? I can't comment to that.

01:04:32 - 01:04:37 | Speaker 2:

Well, Amsterdam's a wild place. Yeah, I mean, everything goes there.

01:04:40 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 1:

This last one comes from Kate to Fred, who says, Good luck on Livewire. Oh, wait, hold on. Matt says, this is the final one, I'm writing to wish my wife a happy Blur's Day. Who knew that when we met seven years ago on your birthday that we'd be living in Brazil seven years later. We're going to celebrate with a birthday.

01:05:00 - 01:05:50 | Speaker 2:

dinner at the world we're gonna celebrate with a birthday dinner at the world's largest outback oh yes there you go yes we did that's amazing not only does that sound kind of disgusting to me it sounds unhealthy oh me and the kitties charlie eddie and biscuit hope you have a great day and can't wait to see what comes next in our lives happy blurs day cute hey you know what just I don't know the name of that recipient, but I think that recipient will know that we're talking to her. Okay. I just thought it was because I was going to reiterate Happy Blur's Day, but I guess just Happy Blur's Day to Matt's wife. Gotcha. I was being awkward there. Sorry. Happy Blur's Day, everybody. Let's end this.

01:05:53 - 01:05:54 | Speaker 1:

Happy Blur's Day. Please end us.

01:05:54 - 01:06:02 | Speaker 2:

this is not my best show that's not true at all Andrew oh it was my best show ever

01:06:02 - 01:06:12 | Speaker 1:

yeah you friggin guessed Fred Flippin Schneider with no hints dude that's like that's quite incredible and I think Funky Little Guess is a decent show

01:06:12 - 01:06:20 | Speaker 2:

everybody's hosting a podcast what about Yakov Ripoff it's your call my friend

01:06:20 - 01:06:25 | Speaker 1:

you're the person inputting that information I'll defer to you bark laugh I like it good luck with your haircut

01:06:25 - 01:06:26 | Speaker 2:

I'm looking forward to hearing how

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tomorrow's episode as to how if I sound sexier on the recording you'll know that I got the Jack Harlow cut nice alright thanks for listening everyone we will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you in the meantime have a great Thursday take care of yourselves please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all Guys, you get a lot of B-52s. Yes. I have no idea why I have Fred Schneider's solo album. Why did I buy this funky little purchase? Is that your Fred Schneider? Yeah. Why did I buy this funky little purchase?

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We have our own Freds.

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Power out.

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