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See, this is exactly the problem with lamestream media. We have half of what you see and just a little bit of what you hear, and monkey see, monkey do. It could be all over you.

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Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

It's not as sexy as sending astronauts to the moon.

My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. I don't know who that is, and I don't care to find out. Coming to you from 47th and Broadway, baby, Times Square, New York City. New York City! Heard of it? I'm at the intersection of the Book of Mormon and Olive Garden Way. Those are two of the companies that I'm seeing advertised. I don't know if Book of Mormon is really a company, but those are two of the things that I'm seeing. And then also an endless loop for a new show on BritBox about the life of Cary Grant. But it's called Archie because that was Cary Grant's real name or his name before he changed it, I guess. And it's a very short clip. I think that, you know, real estate in Times Square on these big jumbo screens, it's very expensive. And so they buy these like five second clips. and there is a five second clip of this movie Life of Archie or this series where the Cary Grant character falls backwards into a pool and I've seen it now just while sitting here getting ready to do the show conservatively 400,000 times and it's just him falling backwards into a pool I said to Becca last night if anyone asks us the plot of that new show we just tell them it's a show where Cary Grant continually falls backwards into a pool. That's apparently what happens every episode and throughout each moment of filming on the show, Archie. Here's what's going to happen throughout this episode, which, by the way... Let the fun begin. ...is 4,122 in a collector's series. We are going to talk about the internet, and we are going to talk about something called Chad Face. Have you done it? Have you seen it? Look at this face. what do you see it's uh something that apparently uh a lot of uh young men are doing uh to try to be more appealing and um i don't know if it's working i've looked at some pictures of it but i'm also going to try it today that's the important thing uh oh and uh speaking of the internet there's an old friend of the show and i don't mean that this person's ever been on the show but we've been playing audio of this person on the program for some time and they've kind of resurfaced on the internet and on TikTok, and I'm really loving them. I'm loving their account, and I'm loving... Can you verify? Can you give me some 411? So we will talk about that as well. Plus, it's a Thursday, aka Blur's Day.

Blur's Day today.

We'll do some Blur's Day messages. Oh, and it was... Oh, boy. It was an adventure getting out here. Oh, and the adventure begins again. I know I always have like a story when I travel somewhere, but this... I think this one's real i think this is a legit this is not me just ginning it up this is a real thing that happened we were on the airplane for a long long time yesterday before we actually took off because of the ice in portland uh so we'll probably talk about that too and we'll talk to this guy the longest running cobro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships it's a

thursday but it's kind of his tuesday i might have tacos when i go home i'm not quite sure yet he's

andrew walsh and he's joining me right now good morning my

friend. Keep rolling, Luke. Keep rolling. I know this is where you usually pause and take a sip of coffee while I say some ridiculous banter. But if I keep talking, I'm going to start talking about the weird ass dreams I had last night. And even I don't want to talk about them, to be honest with you. So why don't you talk about the, if you've had a chance to sip your coffee, take a little breath after that intro. I'm buying you some time here. Thank you. I'm filibustering. I'm fill a friend i'm ready to go uh you're ready to go go ahead and uh take it over from here so you

were on you were on the tarmac for a while there i was andrew uh becca and i um were supposed to fly out at like 7 a.m yesterday from portland out here to new york and it was extremely icy as you may have heard like there was a nice storm and not just the fine fine film by ang lee this was the legit thing where it's raining but as soon as the water hits any surface the roadway your vehicle a building it just immediately turns into ice and we were really wondering if we were even gonna if the flight was going to happen and and so we got up really early like 4 30 in the morning and i checked the app and it said yep the flight's happening at 7 a.m it's on time uh and i was kind of proud of myself i had really planned ahead i have you know these things for the tires of my car they're called snow socks they're just basically like the updated version of chains which i had put on the night before i had done that thing with the windshield wipers where you you know take them off of the windshield you kind of stand them straight up so they don't get frozen i don't even think if they would have gotten frozen to the windshield it would have been that big of a deal but i was just trying to no i think that's a good move i just was like i was proud of myself I felt like I was really ahead of the game and um and so uh you know turned went and started the car up and uh you know got the everything kind of melted and defrosted and we made it to the airport and it was not it was it was not a low stress environment because it was totally iced over on the freeways even with these snow socks on I could feel the car wanting to kind of fishtail off the road a few times there was somebody that decided uh somebody that uh our friend Camaro Kev would call a hot runner there was a hot runner who came up behind us at some point and was beeping at me as we were on the freeway because I was driving like 30 miles an hour with my hazards on it's also I want to mention six in the morning during an ice storm so I was expecting the road to be fairly clear of other vehicles wait this is on the highway why didn't they go around you who knows that's what I'm saying people person was being weird I mean it was a point where you merge from one road to another but it was not technically single lane this person could have gone past me i think i might have been a little bit kind of straddling the lanes i was just trying to drive wherever there was the least appearing snow and ice and i wasn't driving 60 miles an hour but i thought that was the prudent decision and what this person really needed to do was just drive behind me at 30 miles an hour until the road opened up a little bit more than they could go around me these were people were going to be they were going to be forced to drive at the speed I was driving for probably under one minute but that amount of time was too much for them so they beeped at us very aggressively and then you got your hazards on

like it's not like you're distracted you know what I mean it's not like oh I'm mosing oh and it doesn't sound like you were in a situation where it's like you were driving right in the passing lane at the same exact speed of somebody next to you I mean if you were doing that I would be tooting at you too um unless i knew it was you in which case i'd probably just talk behind

your back to be honest yeah yeah on some of your other podcasts this guy yeah how about you leave

a clean lane for me is what i'd say but i mean but yeah but like in this case like if your hazards are on you're not you're not being you're you're telling the world i'm we're dealing with something

here and we are we were and they continue to in portland like that's the other thing it's it was not a it was not a normal wednesday morning um and i was just just deciding to drive at 30 miles an hour with my hazards on it's like the odot the oregon department of transportation is literally telling people do not go on these roads under any circumstances unless you have no other options so i just felt like we'd all be on the same page when we got out there like yeah there's going to be a lot of annoying stuff happening we're all trying to get through this together but was it an ambulance it oh was that relevant information that's my that's on me it was

an ambulance this hot rider behind me was flashing these red and white lights and they had this loud horn that was almost like a it's like road rage much come on it said it said oh my god this is

where i wish i had that ability to say things backwards it would have been really funny if i

could have said ambulance backwards there yeah yeah you know how they write it backwards on the

thing so in your mirror it looks like

it's going in the right direction so anyway we get to the airport and I was amazed at everyone who was at the airport Andrew because of what we had gone through to get there and with the level of planning that it took on my part to make sure that it was possible I expected we'd be the only people there like it was not it was again it was not a simple journey no there was a lot of people a lot of passengers and I looked around all at all the folks in the waiting area for our flight and I thought wow You are resourceful people Because you're here And guess who's not here The crew

They should make a Modelo commercial about you The heart of a fighter

That's a terrible I started in the wrong key I wanted to sing that song they put in the back of those Modelo ads

The Good and the Bad and the Ugly song

Is that where that's from? I didn't get that but it was definitely recognizable

It's not the main theme for Good and the Bad and the Ugly But it's one of those Ennio Morricone songs From that series of movies

By the way, nice Morricone pull.

Yeah, because I have a record of that stuff. But I'm not going to...

That was playing in my mind the whole time I was getting to the airport, going through security, forgetting my wallet at security, remembering I'd forgotten my wallet after we were like halfway to our gate, turning around, going back, going through the bins, finding it. At all times, that Morricone song was playing in my background of my mind.

I actually one quick thing on that commercial, then I'll move on just to sort of clear it off my brain. I was complaining to Genevieve on After These Messages this week that like they used to that campaign used to be about like sort of like raising up like people who had some sort of like kind of tough life experience. But they're still fighters like the often the immigrant experience.

Sure. Centering a lot of like Latino folks. Exactly. I believe that's maybe somebody that they think of as sort of their demo.

Yes. Oh, and there's the music. Exactly. And it used to be like, so-and-so came over here and, you know, it was poor, but started his own.

Luke Burbank left his wallet at the TSA and PDX.

But have you noticed what they are now? Now it's just like a bunch of white people cheering for a sports team. And it's like, you, the fan, you have the heart of the fighter. This is for you. And it's a bunch of people like putting ice in the back of pickup trucks or cheering in the stands. And I'm just like, you've lost your way. I mean, I know it's always been a cynical way of just selling beer. But you were also during the heart of the truck administration.

Yeah, it was like a tattoo artist who was in San Quentin at some point. Come on. We've run out of heroes.

Yeah, I was just like, come on. This is what the heart of a hero is. So having said all of that, you left your wallet back at the TSA. You've had some bad experiences with that in your life. That must have been triggering for you.

Well, it was mostly triggering for Becca because the last time, well, first of all, it's like, can we just get through this stuff without hassle? the last time that we were going through tsa security somewhere i was convinced i had left my wallet in the in the bin you know in the whatever thing and was flipping out oh i don't even know this one and then i just it was like in it was in a pocket of my computer bag oh okay so i had like a freak out because you know i've lost my wallet going through security before and it is really particularly at the beginning of a trip it really puts a damper on things and so we've already had a false alarm of this very thing where i was i went the other day i was saying on the show how like it's crazy how our brain can just kind of go from everything's normal to everything our life is effectively over in one second because you think something has happened and the first time i thought well i've left my wallet with the tsa in one of those bins someone has stolen it i will never get it back the trip is ruined my life is over that all happened in under like eight seconds and then it was just in a pocket of my computer bag so this time i was like i left my wallet and the same panic and then she's like well we should go back to the tsa so we go back and then i i feel like maybe it was as we were searching through the bins i think maybe or i can't remember if it was before or after this becca mentioned you know you thought you had done this last time so it was kind of like a maybe we want to check all of our pockets and it didn't help that i was wearing like three different coats because it's so cold outside so there was an

embarrassment you were dressed like the man with no name from those films you had a poncho on that didn't have pockets but you had a lot of holsters and pockets beneath that right and i was looking

in every one of them and in every bandolero i could find for my wallet and turns out this time no it was in the bin and it was like a flat cat sorry to our listeners who don't like that reference but uh it was very um i'll google it it was it just it was it was like the princess and the p like it was like the sixth bin down and there was nothing about that bin that looked different like it wasn't my wallet and this will be more relevant when we thank the donors of the day and Andrew, I'm not at a point where my wallet is bursting with money, so it wasn't like you could just from like 10 feet away go, okay, there's something amiss about these bins. They looked perfectly normal and stacked, which was making me feel very not optimistic as I was pulling one off and then another and then another, and it was probably like the fourth or fifth one. There it was, my little sad little wallet sitting exactly where I was hoping it would be. So anyway, I'm just saying we as we used to say in the church i was a real overcomer yesterday we were all everybody who got there was some kind of a hero like these were all people who had figured out how to make their way to portland international airport which was not an easy thing yesterday morning and again so much so that when we got there or actually i should say even before we got there we knew the flight was going to be delayed by an hour because the crew had not made there and uh and so we're waiting we're waiting then we get on the plane at probably like maybe 8 30 and then we're on the plane and we're kind of waiting and nothing's happening but you know we've boarded the plane is full the door is shut and an hour goes by another hours goes by we're waiting to get de-iced but the problem is the people who do the de-icing of the plane can't get to the airport because they're stuck on the ice it's like first doctor heal thyself let them

drive the de-icer home you need to de-ice your ford fusion in order to get the de-icer yeah the

deal is it should be like being a cop you get to drive the de-icer home and then you can de-ice your way back to the airport and then you're because there was a it seemed to be maybe one person in one de-icer oh i said i wasn't going to make a big deal out of this but there was one thing going on shout out to the one dude who was working at the mo's chowder restaurant in pdx yesterday at 6 a.m thank you this is there has never been more appropriate music for someone than this guy we salute you one person who works for mo's chowder house who got here this morning and is now the entire dietary needs of the Portland airport now rests on you, sir. He was like literally making chowder. He was making breakfast things. He was making coffee. He was the only person there. So he would take the order. He would then walk back behind the counter. He would then cook up scrambled eggs, bacon, whatever it was people were ordering off of a wide menu, by the way. And then he would bring it to the person And then it would be time for the next person Did this make this a very long line for Becca to get coffee in? Yes But check this out The people in front of her in line The guy said to his friend I'm not going to tip Because this is taking 45 minutes Thank you for stopping the music there That's exactly where that music should stop

That is bullshit

Can you believe it? I want to find that person

I've never stopped music so quickly in my life

And by the way In such a timely way That is exactly the sonic architecture that needs to be occurring or not occurring when you hear that this guy, this terrible human, commented to his friends so that Becca could hear it. I'm not going to tip because this has taken 40 minutes. A person who is presumably able to see that there's one guy working at Moe's chowder doing all of this. That guy is a hero. That guy gets the person working at Moe's gets the Modelo music. The guy who's not going to tip him does not get the Modelo music.

Okay, it's getting complicated over here.

I know, but you're doing, Andrew, honestly, I feel like this is, considering I'm in another state and time zone and everything, I feel like this is actually working pretty well today.

Just make sure I know if we're talking about the pro-chowder guy or the anti-tipping guy. Chowder. That's what I need to know. Listen, this is going to be such a hiccup in this storyline, and I apologize, but I got to know, going back to TSA for a second.

Yeah.

You were talking about losing your wallet in the past and then the time you thought you lost it, et cetera. The piece of radio equipment, was that a mix pre that you had lost maybe about a year ago? But you got that back. Did we ever get close? You didn't?

No.

Oh, okay.

Never got it back.

Because I knew that you, okay, whatever. From off-air conversations, I thought I had an understanding of your technical setup now, and I thought you had two of those things. So I thought that maybe you had gotten that thing back. So you've lost, I guess the point here is, and I'll let you move on. So you have lost multiple things at the TSA before. I would be very, yeah, that feeling of flipping through those bins looking for your wallet at the beginning of your trip. Right, exactly.

It was bad. And also, and I know this isn't where you're going with it, but it does raise the question, how do I not have this more figured out? I'm a pretty expert traveler, I think. I'm proud of my ability to navigate, you know, a lot of different airport and rental car and what have you situations. But that seems to be something that still eludes me is like successfully exiting the TSA situation with all of my stuff. And I don't really know why that is. But it's still it's let's just say it's a it's a growing it's a growing edge for me.

Can I can I ask you this? So during just regular daily life, I keep and I think a lot of people do. I keep my keys in the same pocket every day, my phone and my wallet like and I don't even think about it. I'm constantly checking them. So if I go on vacation and I realize, oh, I don't none of these keys fit anything out here in Hawaii or Boca Raton or wherever I happen to be, you know, I'll leave those keys out of my pocket during the vacation. But I will instinctively like freak out a couple of times during the vacation because I'm like, oh, the keys aren't where I feel them all the time. Now, I know going through a TSA line is different. You have to empty your pockets. I have a routine where I take everything out of my pockets. I put it either in my jacket pocket, inside pocket or this particular pocket on my backpack. I'm not going to tell you what it was or what it is, because if you find my backpack, I'm screwed. No, but like I'm kind of surprised that you don't have something similar. You said that the last time you went through and you found the wallet in some random pocket somewhere. Are you I'm kind of surprised you're not more ritualistic about like where you keep your stuff.

Well, I want to just say in my own defense, I also go through the TSA probably three times a month. so my success rate is still relatively high like there's this is something where i i'm creating a lot of opportunities for there to be you know what i mean for me to maybe forget something so i do generally have a system and by the way the reason that i realized you know that my wallet wasn't with me well before we got to the airplane and well before we were on the airplane was because i did that instinctive back pocket tap yeah i do like a back pocket tap i do a phone tap I do a little like, you know, as they say, what, like, uh, spectacles, uh, what is, what is like the thing where you're crossing yourself, but it's like, you know, there's a sign of the cross like, yes, but there's a, but there's a kind of like spectacles wallet, something. There used to be something where it was kind of like, you're checking for all your things, but it also kind of vaguely resembled the sign of the cross.

Oh, okay.

Anyway, I was doing that, which is, it was effective in that I noted that I didn't have my wallet with me. Um, you're right. I don't, it's probably not.

Is it Spectacles, Testicles, Wallets, and Watch?

That's the one I was thinking of.

We weren't allowed to say that in our Catholic family for some reason.

Really? Yeah. So, but I think the takeaway is I do need to get a little bit of a better system so that I'm 100%. Right now I'm probably 80%, which is a 20% failure rate, which is, I'm never going to get the Modelo music that way.

Well, no, and clearly I'm not playing it. And again, I did not say that as a way of.

You're always withholding that Modelo music.

No, you've got to earn it. And I honestly did not want you to feel like I was trying to pile on or make you feel worse about it. I didn't take it that way. Since you go through it all the time, since you go through TSA all the time, I would just figure that you have the pocket that you put stuff in when you go through. It just seems like you would have that.

You would think. I mean, again, I need to tighten up a little bit. I need to kind of work on my system. Part of it is that each airport seems to have a different kind of rule about what you need to actually present them as you get through like TSA, particularly pre-check. Some places it's just your ID and they feed into the little machine. Sometimes it's your ID and your phone because of the boarding pass. I don't always wear the same outfit when I'm going through. So sometimes I might put stuff in a pocket of a jacket, fold the jacket up and put that in the bin. Sometimes they think the jacket is light enough that I don't need to take it off depending on the airport. And in that case, then I'm just taking my wallet and my phone and I'm putting them maybe in the pocket of my computer bag but sometimes they have those little circular you know round things and i'll put them in there so i just need to probably figure out a more standardized system but the upshot is we get on the airplane we're on the airplane they close the door it is six hours before we take off geez louise so and i want to mention the flight yeah five and a half hour flight maybe five yeah if that it's shorter coming out this way than it is going back um and so yeah there was a point at which our time on the ground exceeded the time we would be in the air and uh becca and i realized that it was essentially like we flew to we flew to germany again except we didn't we only got to new york like the time that we were on that airplane was uh would have been you know nine to ten hours um of just of not never then they did this move i kind of respected this on the part of the captain the flight crew they were pretty communicative and they didn't sugarcoat things um they said we are coming up on the point where legally we can't keep you on the airplane anymore oh yeah right passenger bill of rights right and so they said we're going to open the jetway we're going to reconnect we're going to Open the door. So if you. want to get off and not go to new york by all means and i i think beck and i were like endlessly speculating on what the rule was we think the rule was you actually are allowed to get off and get back on but what they were saying was when it's time for us to go we're not waiting around for anyone so you're kind of getting off the plane at your own peril um because i've seen that i've been on planes where that's happened before where they go we're going to reopen the jetway but what they hadn't said in the other situations was so if you don't want to go to new york this is the time to get off they've said like well if you want to go walk around the airport that's fine but just know you have to be here when we're leaving because we're not going

to wait around for you so like a cruise ship i assume yes which is something that i have kind of gotten into at some point is watching you get back in time for your cruise ship no i've actually

believe it or not had good success with that but what i like to do is watch videos on tiktok of people running to try to catch their cruise ship it's become an entire category of content which is the people who are on the boat videotaping with their phones the people who are running to the boat in like you know cabo or something some place they've stopped and then these folks have gone and enjoyed themselves far too much on the land and are now sprinting and you know different strokes for different folks but let's just say occasionally it's a person who it doesn't appear that this is a kind of a mobility that they've put into use a ton lately if that makes any sense just people being pushed to what appear to be their absolute physical limits right it would be like forget the nfl it's okay fine tyreek hill the cheetah he's amazing but his whole life is being tyreek hill show me a guy in a cabo wabo t-shirt and a sunburn who hasn't run for eight years trying to sprint a quarter mile to get back to his princess cruise line ship now that's

entertainment yeah that's me i got a shirt on this is body by dark bot and we've got the show title body by dark bot now hold on we could do a whole show on this because first of all it really underscores how low rent i am because i play the same game only in real life watching people chase a bus now the deal is like i and one of the things and viz and i who are both as you know big fans of public transportation we believe in in in the bus commuters um community and so like you always root

for the person who's chasing absolutely always do actively against the cruise ship i was gonna say

yeah so when the people are filming off the side of the boat it's more of a look look at these

trumps whereas when we're watching gallery of people derisively jeering and sarcastically applauding the people who are running for the boat it is a wild social dynamic it is all the people who made the right decision yeah to come back to the boat in time roasting the people who made the wrong decision and i love it and and maybe because i've i've now i have had to have You and Genevieve helped sneak me onto a cruise ship once But that wasn't because of me getting there too late That was because of me leaving my passport At our friend's house But like I don't know why I feel like it's comeuppance And again if anyone should be rooting for the person running for the boat It's me Because I'm more frequently in that position Than in the position of like Hey here I am on the boat like I'm supposed to be But there's And because it's not the bus I mean the bus is something that is And I know you agree with me on this the bus is a vital way for people often people who don't drive or can't drive or choose not to drive to get to places they need to go and more people taking the bus makes life better for everyone even the people in cars because it's fewer cars on the road so somebody who's running to catch the bus taking that bus i see it as a social good for everyone we are so rooting for them to get the bus somebody who just decided to have two extra caboritas or was or was stuck

looking for their name on a miniature license plate in sicily exactly i can't find they don't

have braylin sorry i'm looking for all the bees there's no braylin oh no that's the sound of our boat leaving come on braylin it's so there i'm so it's such an unsympathetic thing that it's like you and by the way in saying this i have created i have now manifested in the universe i will be running for a cruise ship within the next two years that is my promise to you that's the luke burbank promise but like there's just something that's so unsympathetic about the person who just took their sweet ass time now they're running for the boat that i'm desperately hoping the boat leaves without him and i that's a bad that's that's player hating of the highest order but But for some reason, that's where I land on that. But anyway, we were on the plane for six hours, and then it finally did take off.

off and i'll be honest with you right up until it took off i was thinking this may or may not happen because uh the i mean the runway was still covered in ice there was a plane in front of us thankfully and i was like i'm glad we get to see if this works for them like we were on the you know runway and we're just sitting there but from the position where i was i could see the like american airlines flight in front of us that was going to be the first i think we might have been the second plane to take off from the airport yesterday this is at 1 p.m i'll mention i was like i'm glad that we're um gonna like test this out with the plane in front of us because it just seemed like i don't know i mean my car wasn't doing great on the freeway that was covered in ice and now we have an aluminum tube with 80 soles on it also i think people took this pretty well by the way the the continued delays uh there was not a mass revolt on the airplane and i think it's because the airplane was practically empty so people had room to spread out you didn't have somebody all up in your biz i think it was a it was a relatively chill environment considering we sat on the air the thing for six hours or five and a half hours there was no like no revolt nobody was nobody was like yelling at anyone nobody was coming up and giving the flight crew a hassle like it it was a pretty calm group but anyway uh we took off now here's the thing andrew we landed in new york city uh we deplaned and i realized oh this airplane is turning right back around and going back i think to portland or maybe seattle and wouldn't you know there was a 10 so a tbtl listener standing there and i'm sorry i didn't grab the person's name i think i've actually met this person before at an event and he said hey i'm listening to tbtl right now and he said did you have to wait that whole time on the plane on the plane and we were like yeah yeah physically on the airplane he was like i'm so sorry and i went well safe travels and then we just went on our way and what i didn't even put together was he was probably sitting in that airport for the same six extra hours waiting for our plane and i didn't if you were the 10 who who talked to becca and I in the airport last night you're a hero and I'm sorry that I didn't commiserate with you more I'm sorry that I made this basically our problem I centered ourselves in the story kind of being like yeah we had to wait on the plane because I didn't think about the other side of that coin you were probably sitting there at JFK waiting for the airplane as long as we were waiting on

the airplane and I'm guessing and not in as nice of seats as you because you flew to Germany and back so that you could have first class status didn't hurt so you were you in first class this

whole time uh we were that was that was that was making life that was making life better but but but luckily this listener was not on the airplane they were in the terminal so that's at least something yeah okay yeah i got you but you know there's only so much you can do in the in terminal seven at jfk you know waiting you know losing six hours of your trip and waiting six hours is

waiting six hours well this is yeah and by the way i am now i've moved on from pitting you against this person's experience but um generally speaking i will say if you asked me if i wanted to spend what was it five hours uh waiting for between five and six we will never know the exact amount but it was a long time we'll say 5.25 no i'll give you more than 5.57 hours on a plane i'd rather spend that time in a terminal even not a even a not so great terminal maybe not the one in jersey what is the airport in Newark that one was rough me Newark is Newark Airport always rough or was it just the time I was there I remember that was a place I did not it felt like it was out of Star

Wars Newark is hit and miss I think depending on what terminal you're in so um I fly out of there a lot I'll tell you the one that's fancy now is LaGuardia which if we have folks in New York listening to this they'll laugh because LaGuardia was just and I mean it was not nice for so long

that's the one it was you and me flying is that where we flew out of New York when we did our little mini tour it was so like bombed out and people just yeah that's LaGuardia dirty ass floors like I was really shocked by that and so aside from LaGuardia I'd rather be in an airport where at least I could go get, you know, just, like, be free to wander around and get some more newspapers from the newspaper shop.

Yeah, no, I think being in the airport's better, but I just wanted to say to that listener, I'm sorry if I didn't seem sufficiently kind of sympathetic towards your plight, which, again, even though he was in the terminal waiting an extra six hours is waiting an extra six hours. It still kind of stinks. I was seeing this as the story of Luke and Becca didn't get to New York in time, But it was also the story of that listener not getting to return to the West Coast in a timely fashion. So, but. Here we are. We made it. Maybe the most intriguing part of the whole voyage, Andrew, I haven't even told you about yet, which is the guy sitting behind us, who I'd say maybe 45 minutes into being on the plane. We haven't taken off yet, though. The door is closed. The guy gets the flight attendant to come over and says, literally, this is an older guy. I guess I would put him in probably his Probably early 70s maybe He says When I say it in my head it almost sounds like a Tim Robinson voice He says to the flight attendant I'm dying of thirst

Yeah I can hear him say that

He goes I'm dying of thirst Do you have any milk?

Wait a second Was it Jim Harbaugh sitting behind you?

He had on Dockers and that was first of all that was just like a hilarious thing to ask for when you've prefaced it with i'm dying of thirst i've never heard anyone ask for milk on an airplane in my life let alone as the follow-up to i'm pretty much dying of thirst here so that was kind of um that was surprising and then she said i don't think we we have milk and so then he goes well do you have any bourbon so he down he downshifted or upshifted he ended up i'm dying of thirst do you have any milk or bourbon so he had he ended up having a bourbon and then and and this as i was saying to becca like for me if i'm having a bourbon at like 10 a.m on the flight that's the first of many that's the beginning of a journey for me with the alcohol he just had one bourbon at like 8 30 a.m and then later he said they were bringing the food around and uh he said well what i really wanted uh he asked her about a kind of beer that they didn't have and then he said well what i really wanted was some milk and she was like yeah i just we don't have any milk and he said okay well i guess i'll take that beer and she explains like what it's called you know and brings it and she goes i'm sorry we don't have the kind you want to we have this kind he goes i'm sure it'll be great by the way this guy wasn't actually i'm making them sound rude he wasn't rude he just in fact was kind of a sweet guy he just was he was just interesting like he just he was sort of like he didn't seem to have what you might call an interior monologue he just kind of externalized everything but but not in a way where he was trying to you know treat the the staff shabbily he just was saying whatever came into his mind so he was like you know he wanted a certain kind of beer they didn't have that kind of beer she said we have this other kind he goes i'm sure it'll be perfect so he brings in the beer whatever i don't know 10 15 minutes go by and then she goes need anything else he goes what other kind of beer do you have so he clearly didn't like the wasn't perfect it wasn't perfect it turns out and then it's somewhere in that all he mentioned but what i really just wanted was some milk and then he goes do you have any tuna fish sandwiches this was not i want to clarify it was not john mulaney

or nick crawl from the too much tuna but you you might think for you is it are we are we

being pranked here it was i mean it was amazing i've never i've never heard anyone ask for milk on a plane then i've never asked i've never heard someone go off menu and ask for a tuna fish sandwich a thing that you probably don't serve on the airplane for a variety of reasons it's not shelf stable it's very um it's stinky it's it's kind of like a tuna fish sandwich and milk is probably the last thing you want to give somebody on the airplane and these are the two things this

guy desperately wanted luke i'm dying of thirst do you have a tuna fish sandwich and some bourbon

by any chance and then do you remember this part bex when i waited so long to do this because as he kept like so then by the way the joke for me and Becca became talking about milk the whole flight at one point I asked the flight attendant if they had any milk when she had brought some water around she didn't hear me but I just did it to make back now this guy's right behind you but you're not worried about him overhearing it's loud he's not young I'm kind of figuring that it's going past him I'm trying to be a little bit discreet but I did want to get eyes on him after the milk order after the tuna fish i was like who what is this guy's deal so i like um i do that thing that you that you sometimes do on an airplane where you kind of stretch and you kind of like look around and and you know you pretend like you're just looking generally around the airplane but you're really just trying to kind of get eyes on one person or situation i'll also mention he was coughing um pretty pretty regularly on the flight like and as we were sitting there like

Which would, again, made me glad that they weren't giving him his milk and tuna fish. I don't think we needed that. But I just, so I do this thing where I'm, and I've waited now. We have been sitting there for at least four hours before I turn around to get a look at the dude.

Wait, do you ever get up to use the restroom during this time at all? Wouldn't that be the perfect time to put eyes on it?

It would have been, and I think I forgot when I got up. I did get up to use the restroom, and somehow I spaced out. You're right, that would have made so much more sense, but I blew it. I missed my chance. Yeah, blew it. okay so i kind of like turn around and i'm looking around the whole plane and again we've been on this thing for hours it hasn't even taken off it's not crazy that i would just be like getting eyes on the plane but he goes he looks he says to me do you remember this he goes oh i thought oh i what did he say yeah he goes he goes oh oh oh hi were you looking at me he little guy says were you looking at me and i go no no i'm just looking around he goes no i thought you were gonna ball me out the guy says i thought you were gonna ball me out like for coughing maybe I for I don't for what I don't know, but he was kind of right. But it was crazy. It was like, what are the chances that he is going to actually realize? I mean, I look at him for a nanosecond. What are the chances he'll know that I'm going to look at him and that and that he'll know that he's five percent on my nerves?

What I don't like is that this might mean every time we think we're being subtle and doing that on a plane or some other situation. Right. Like for me, maybe the bus that we think we're getting away with it, but the person just doesn't have the gumption to say, hey, stop doing a fake stretch so you can check me out. Can I help you, sir?

I mean, this is a guy who, as I mentioned, didn't have any inner monologue. So maybe every time we do that, the person, their inner monologue is, oh, are they looking at me? Have they noticed that I've been coughing profusely and ordering milk? Like, that's what everyone's thinking, but most people don't say it but he's just the kind of person who doesn't keep any of those thoughts inside and so he's externalizing it um but everyone's having the thought or or this guy

gets balled out a lot on airplanes because he's also wackadoo i also feel like no one's using the

term you're stop bawling me out anymore like that was a thing think about this bawling out and it's a different spelling has taken on a completely new sure yeah modelloized kind of sort of meaning in our culture and society boy this just doesn't hit the way i don't know what

you found online i keep on trying to find the right place to hit this it takes too long to

build up well i did the i did the low rent version which is i just googled modello commercial music oh and that's and then someone has put it on youtube with a nike logo oh okay i'll look for that one that's better they've cut it right to the to the point that those people do but but like uh yeah when i was a kid they would say like oh yeah he totally got balled out which would be like you got yelled at but we've sort of stopped saying that and now we talk about it particularly in football like oh he was balling out like b-a-l-l-i-n-g balling out as you really played well and i hadn't heard i thought you were gonna ball me out for a long time and

Yeah, I mean, I don't like being hollered at, so that's his version of hollered at. I don't like saying ball out, because it's B-A-W-L, right? That's what I think. I don't like that word, just as a word, not any implications about what it means. It just is, I don't know if I like that A-W-L kind of situation.

Yes. So that was getting out here, but the good news is we're here. We're in the balmy, like, I don't know, 29 degree weather of New York City, which really and truly compared to what's going on in the Northwest and particularly in Portland is like, I guess, you know, the prediction was that this ice storm was going to be over by now, but it sounds like it's actually not. It's getting a second life. How are things for you in Seattle versus like Portland?

Yeah, it sounds like you have gotten way more of the brunt of this than we have. Like we were warned yesterday that it was going to rain in the morning and freeze, and it did a little bit, but it was not – it didn't stop the city, and it passed pretty quickly, and the temperatures warmed up pretty quickly. We got some big, fat snowflakes yesterday for like maybe a half hour, and that was pretty nice. But again, it didn't really cause any troubles for us. We've been really lucky.

That's weird. I think before I moved to Portland, I always just thought, well, Seattle and Portland are basically the same place and have basically the same weather. But now having lived down there, it's it can be quite different because like it's it's you know, it's a huge problem there right now. Like people I mean, pipes are bursting left and right and they keep canceling school, which is hard because the Portland school district already had a strike this year. so they're already behind a bunch of days and and like it's just you know it's just sounds like a real mess so uh if you're in portland or if you're in you know southern washington or any area that's getting hit in the northwest we hope you're gonna you're doing doing okay. Who knew that coming to New York City in January was going to be the way to get away from the real cold, the real bad cold of the Northwest. Now, what a lot of people are wondering

right now is, did you read the description on this YouTube video with the Nike logo that plays the Ennio Morricone song, Ecstasy of Gold, featured in Modelo? First of all, this thing was posted in January of 2012 which means Modelo has been using this song much longer than I realized like over a decade I had no idea they'd been using this music for over a decade I like always think of it in the modern campaign

in the last two years

I would have put it at five anyway what I love is you thought it was curious that there's a big flaming Nike logo on it assuming that we're looking at the same YouTube video of this song with a Nike logo I assume yours is flaming and sparking as well The person who posted this wrote in all caps in the description, made this video when I was like 12, which explains why there's a Nike logo in the background, LMAO. I have a bit of a new podcast obsession I'd like to tell you about. It's called The Distraction from our friends over at Defector. It's hosted by Drew McGarry and David Roth. Now, you've heard Luke and I obsess over David and Drew's writing over the years. and I just started listening to the podcast I don't know a month or two ago and I knew I was already addicted when after listening to one episode I quoted it like a thousand times the next weekend they were interviewing one of the show runners from the Simpsons and I didn't even realize until like more than halfway through the show that it was also ostensibly a sports podcast well it's about sports it's also about movies and art and sandwiches and getting irritated by people who are talking on their cell phone in public with a speakerphone. That's something that's very close to my heart as well. Each week, these guys tackle all kinds of subjects, serious and impossibly stupid. Their words, not mine, but I'll back it up. If you like the kind of show we're doing here at TBTL, I think you're going to like this podcast as well, especially if you, like me, have at least a casual interest in sports. So dial it up on your podcast app or surf on over to Defector.com for more.

all right let's thank some donors these generous folks are keeping tbtl happening with their

donations now i know this is really important we have to thank these people because we have no show without them but i do think it's worth pausing here and noting what i said at the end of that promo apparently i said dial it up on your podcast app how do you feel about that last time i I felt like you were really taking a stand by not saying wherever you get podcasts.

I think dial it up on your podcast app is great.

Okay, I just wanted to get a gut check on that. For you. I love that for you.

Be basic. Yeah. You know who's never basic? Noelle Kelly in Sligo, Ireland.

I love that. Now, here's why I love that.

I love everything about that.

Have I ever been to Ireland? No. Have I been to Sligo? Yes, because Sligo was the first bar that I walked into the first time I visited Boston, technically.

They've got Irish bars in Boston now?

Yes, and this was a very small, old-school, sort of like, kind of, do you call it like a, you know what a shotgun apartment is? You know how it's like long and narrow and you can go all the way through it? Yeah, a shotgun shack. Yeah, so it was like long and narrow like that, and I remember my friend had to go to work, and he's like, Just go ahead and wander around. And I guess that was in Davis Square. I'm like, well, maybe I'll just wander my way right into the. And it was like the afternoon just filled with old men who'd given up on everything. And it felt like home.

Sligo. I wonder if it's still there in Boston. Probably so.

I think I looked it up. I think it's surviving, although I don't know. I don't know how it's surviving in the post cigarette world, because I feel like the cigarette smoke was keeping that place literally open.

It was load-bearing cigarette smoke. It was. At some point, it was literally holding the place up. Yeah. The larger question is, am I related to Noel Kelly of Sligo? Because, of course, my mom's maiden name is Kelly. Spelled like that? No extra. Same spelling. I believe, I want to say, back in the day, it wouldn't have even been Jack Kelly. My granddad, it would have been, I don't know, one or two generations before that were in County Cork, Ireland. They were the Kellys I think that's about, I don't know, 80% of the place was Kelly But maybe Noelle and I, maybe we have more in common Than just Noelle supporting the program But either way, thank you so much Thanks also to James Ware in Woodinville, Washington Do you think you might be related to James Ware?

I don't, I mean we do have the first two letters

of our last name are the same W-A. Yeah, well that's pretty much a slam dunk. And I have actually been to Woodinville before. It's a tiny little bar in Cleveland, Ohio called The Woodinville, filled

with smoke. Probably is. Andrew Tantillo or Tantillo is in Kensington, Maryland.

Now that person's name is Andrew. My name is Andrew.

We have to be related. Did we just become best friends?

Yeah, I think so.

How about Anastasia Todd in Maricopa, Arizona? Arizona. What a great distribution today. Sligo, Ireland, Woodinville, Maryland, Maricopa, Arizona, Mill Creek, Washington, where Amy Mazzoni is. Thank you, Amy. Or Mazzone.

I'm also looking at, it could be Anastasia, right? Is there a difference in spelling between Anastasia? I think last year we did this exact same thing. Okay. Oh, we did this?

I don't have an answer for you, by the way. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I think I, for some reason, I go to Anastasia for no particular scientific reason. And then I think you said, is it Anastasia? Yeah, that sounds like me. But isn't Anastasia a different spelling?

That I'm not sure about. I thought they were the same, although I'm not sure.

I think this has got an extra S. Will you Google, will you IMDB Hank Azaria, please, and then scroll down for six months And then get to when he was in the movie He was the voice of Bartok the Bat In the movie Anastasia Music I believe written by Barry Manilow Wow

To answer your question no I won't do that

You know who would do that for me Sarah Longino DeKalb Of Moxie Washington

Wow you got Moxie

You sure do My goodness what a great list of From Sligo to Moxie my friends that's uh that's where we've got tbtl supporters thank you to all of you for making the show possible hello and welcome to top story um i don't know if we're gonna have time for both of the things i wanted to talk about in top stories today andrew so if i'm gonna just if i If I may, if I may kind of, again, make an audible call here and just focus in on one thing before it's too widely covered everywhere else, Stone Cold Steve Austin may be maybe our only hope for this country. He may be the only person, I think, who can actually build bridges, who can actually help mend the torn hearts and pectorals of this country, because he is a true delight on TikTok and is also someone who I assume has a broad appeal amongst a certain kind of version of America where, like, let's say, Andrew, you and I might not have the same appeal. we talked about stone cold steve austin years ago because he had a surprisingly good take on

gay marriage do you remember this no i i almost wonder if this was before i was on the show

this um i there's i think there are some swears in this i apologize but this is i think stone cold steve austin the pro wrestler or the one-time pro wrestler on some kind of a podcast i don't remember if he was even asked about this or if he just showed up wanting to talk about it But this was his take on gay marriage. Again, there are some swears in here.

You know, there's been a lot of fucking stuff in the news lately about same-sex marriage. Everybody's going crazy about this. And some of the churches say, oh, no, can't do. You can't do that. I'm for same-sex marriage. I don't give a shit. Two guys, two gals, guy, gal, whatever it is. I believe that any human being in America or any human being in the goddamn world that wants to be married, if it's the same sex, more power to them. And what also chaps my ass, Teddy, is that one of these churches or some of these churches have the high horse that they get on and say, we as a church do not believe in that. Which one of these motherfuckers talked to God and God said that same-sex marriage was a no-can-do? Can you verify? Can you give me some 411? Okay, so two cats can't get married if they want to get married. but then a guy can go murder 14 people molest five kids then go to fucking prison and accept god and he's going to let them into heaven after the fact that he did all that shit see that's all

horseshit to me that don't jive with me don't you feel like this is really the person that should be i don't want to say maybe running the country is strong but i feel like he might be one of the few uniters we have left in this world because the way that he comes at things You know, I don't think any I don't think anybody who doesn't want to get a pile driver right to the dome.

is gonna call him a snowflake, but he's laying out what I think is a fairly inclusive worldview, at least as it is specific to this one issue. I don't know everything about Stone Cold Steve Austin, but I do know that he's also the person behind this audio that I'm in love with. I used to introduce you earlier in the week. This was him talking to his cat, Poncho. He's got two cats that live on his ranch. I think he's got a lot of cats, but he's got a couple of them, Poncho and Lefty, and he's been posting a lot about his cat, And people then he didn't post about his cat for a while. Then everyone was wondering where his cat was. So the next video he put up, he just had his cat on his shoulder and he was asking the cat what he's been up to. Did you take a nap? Did you build a snowman? Did you catch a mouse? What did you do? He's just going around his ranch, the Broken Skull Ranch, playing with his cats, posting about it and critically trying to do an ice bath for the first time. and it's wonderful because it sounds exactly like probably most of us trying to do an ice bath for the first time. It's a little confusing because the way this video works, I'm going to play you some of the audio of, he's just trying to get in the ice bath for a while. And then eventually you can tell, cause you know, he got a cell phone camera set up that he's trying to do the intro. He just keeps saying, Hey, it's stone cold, like a bunch of times. And he's pausing, I think, because he's like, he's trying to leave an edit point either for himself or for Poncho or for River does his social media, but it is clear that Stone Cold Steve Austin, ironically with the name cold in his name, does not like doing a cold plunge. I love this tape so much. Just take a listen.

God damn it. Whoa. Oh, shit.

God damn it. Hey, what's up, bud? God damn it. Hey, what's up, everybody? It's Steve coming to Broke Skull Ranch. I got this. I'm in therapy. hey what's up everybody it's steve coming to the broken skull run hey what's up everybody steve coming to the broken skull ranch uh about to do my first cold plunge and renew therapy uh my shop says 43 degrees right now so i'm sure the water is sub 50. i was going to start off at 50. it's going to be a little bit colder than that and now we're going three minutes here once it

So he's kind of like, maybe he's got like up to his like thighs in the water now. And he's about to try to lower in down to like basically his chest range. Just if you're visualizing this.

God damn.

Ha ha. Ha ha. Ha. Son of a bitch. Ha. Ha.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha something about his life or his views that is not in total alignment with whatever my thing is. That being said, I find him to be so much more interesting and likable and relatable than I would ever expect somebody who has chosen the name Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Yeah. Well, here's where my shock comes in. I did not realize until... I knew that the person you were talking about at the beginning of the show was Stone Cold Steve Austin because I'd heard this tape before I haven't seen it yet I'd heard the tape though on another podcast and I think maybe you have it written on the show sheet or something so then when you played the drop of him saying can you give me the 411 that was the moment I realized that drop that I've heard thousands of times in my life was Stone Cold Steve Austin I had no idea and I had no idea that it was from a pro marriage a pro gay marriage rant I had no idea about that either I I don't think I've ever heard that full tape before. I mean, the timeline doesn't seem right. It seems like if you played that on TBTL, I would have been there for it. But I don't know. If your brain is feeble, it's new to you. I think that's what the NBC – that's what I've been saying for years so anyway I'm living I find all of that shocking now again

I haven't seen this video but I heard it dissected on another podcast and they were talking about like his his mistake here is that he's treating it like a cold dip and the whole thing is it's got to be a cold plunge and I'm not saying that I could do that but like people who've tried this and you've tried this before is that you kind of can't stone this is the only thing stone cold Steve Austin and I have in common it's which is we would do this wrong because we're scared of the cold water but is it true that you need to just like you need to commit and not think about it and just plunge yourself down in there and then deal with the reaction afterwards you can't

inch yourself down i think that's true i have not done a proper cold plunge i did that tv story where i jumped in the water in san francisco which i actually don't know what that water temp was like if it was how it would compare to doing a legit cold plunge but um for me that was the fact that they were filming it I just didn't really have a choice I mean I did I had a choice to not take the assignment but once I got to the point of like diving in the water it was kind of it was kind of going to happen uh I don't know how I'm watching this video what what is this

where's that when did I do that now this is not Stone Cold Steve Austin for the listening audience

I actually sound like a much less macho version of Stone Cold Steve Austin oh my god that is a terrible feeling of coldness oh is this a video shoot or just i don't know if

you made a video of it or not i hope it's only audio dear god but i've been doodling you naked here um but uh no you did that i don't i i thought you just did it for yourself but also wanted to talk about on the show you were doing a lot of running or something and so you made your own

ice bath yeah i mean yeah okay so well clearly i have done it in my life there and also i know another time that i did it was when me and my buddy cotter aka the colonel had gone for a really really long run and he at the time was working at a school down in california the chadwick school and had the keys to the like you know athletic facilities so we were able to do one of their like legit ice bath kind of things for that like the track team would use or whatever so i guess i have done it a couple of times maybe in the interest of um of like uh muscle uh rejuvenation or something so i guess i have done it before um but but i what i haven't done that is a legit like now they you know like what stone cold steve austin is getting into is some it appears to be some kind of a vessel some kind of a tank that's specifically designed for this which is another part of the whole cold plungification of america now they sell all of these you know various tanks that are just for cold plunging i think what i've done for cold plunge mostly is like put ice in my bathtub and then fill it up with water which again is very cold but i don't know if i'm getting the full if i'm getting the full experience that i just don't i don't know if i'm tougher than stone cold steve austin is what i'm saying because it's not one-to-one to me it's whatever i was doing in that vid in that audio uh i don't know if i was subjecting myself to as much cold or maybe i'm tougher than stone cold steve austin because i did stay in there longer than it appears he did first time now he's done a second try and that video that audio was also really funny but he does stay in um but back to your original point i think you're right i think the key is you just got to plunge that's why it's it's not called a cold a cold toe dip it's called a cold plunge because you've got to actually plunge in there you've got to get in there and just deal with it now i'll tell you this i was really considering i not buying a thing for this but actually trying to integrate a little more cold plunging into my life because i'm very um easily influenced by the internet and everyone on the internet has been obsessed with this you know lots of people doing lots of tiktok videos where they get in there and talking about all the benefits they say it's like it you know releases more endorphins than cocaine etc right as i was getting serious about maybe thinking about kind of setting up some kind of a tub for cold plunging then i started seeing the next wave which is people going it's actually not it doesn't really

do that much for you like now they're doing cold plunges and cocaine it's like come on well now

that i could consider like i heard a doctor on i forget what what show it was but like or read something where that basically a medical professional was saying uh the reason that you're if you cold plunge and let's say that you had a shoulder injury and it goes away or a knee injury is because the reason it feels like the injury goes away is because you only have so many pain receptors and if they're all busy dealing with something really cold they're not busy dealing with other things that are painful in your body and i should figure out who it was because i'm i'm basically just taking one piece of feedback that said cold plunges are a little overrated and using it as a reason to never do another cold plunge maybe i was just looking for an excuse that's what i remember my dad joking

around when i was a kid and i just thought it was the funniest thing in the world he's like you know if your if your thumb hurts here you want me to hit your foot with a hammer he didn't by the way My dad was not abusive, I want to make that very clear. But, you know, I just thought it was hilarious. Like, yeah, you don't think about the thumb that hurts when your toe is aching as well.

Which was, I think, kind of one of the things that this doctor was saying is part of this whole thing is that the cold punch. Actually, you know what it might have been on? This could start us on a whole other conversation. But I've been doing a little bit of listening to something called The Huberman Lab. Are you familiar with this show? No. So it's kind of it's very, very big right now in the I don't want to say wellness, but in the kind of like, hey, what does alcohol really do to your body? Hey, what does being in ketosis really look like? That would be like low carbing. Hey, what does like it's kind of a place of the guy, Andrew Huberman, who's the host. He is a professor at Stanford. He's obviously a very bright person. And then we'll have a lot of people on who have done a lot of research into different. it's kind of like a very sciencey approach to a lot of larger questions about life and how we live our life and how we exercise or don't or just things like that the the thing is i think huberman got a big boost from going on rogan uh which is always for me now a bit of a like it's going to kind of cause my antenna to go up a little bit because you're scared of the truth well that's it i mean that's i can't handle the truth but like i've now listened to enough huberman lab i don't think he has a particularly political worldview like and if he does it's probably closer to kind of like i think how you and i tend to see the world um so i'm i find it really intriguing i do it is like here's a perfect example of like a huberman lab show that i listen to that i'm enjoying but i'm also wondering if it's some amount of its bullshit he'll have like rick rubin on you know the guy that produced all the music and rick rubin is an interesting character to me because he's known for being like the guy that produced ll cool j back in the day and also johnny cash you know like and now his whole thing is that he's like borderline a buddhist monk like he just walks around his like empty malibu house his unbelievably uh beautiful but unbelievably spare home in malibu and he just kind of walks around and and just like thinks deep thoughts and goes out in the morning and and makes sure he's feeder in the grass and stuff i'm saying this like derisively i actually found the episode to be really interesting i think rick rubin sounds like a really a really intelligent really interesting person who's really been on a journey in his own life so it's not even like it's not that i think it's it's bs but then i hear both of them talking about how they don't use bluetooth headphones because they're worried about the the radiation or the bluetooth waves so huberman's like yeah i stopped using bluetooth a while ago Because I just heard from a couple people that it might be on the line And I figured why So he wears wired headphones And then Rick Rubin's like Well I wear these air tubes that just pass the sound to your ears They don't have any electrical in them And then I was like okay well And then Rick Rubin tells the story of how he's walking on the beach shirtless And a guy comes up to him and says Hey you know I listen to Because Rick Rubin of course also has a podcast And the guy comes up and says I'm a big fan of your podcast

And this one particular episode you talked about Reminded me of something And then they were kind of trading stories This is standing on a beach in Southern California And then the guy who has met Rick Rubin says I love listening to your podcast and other podcasts Because I have a really hard time falling asleep And Rick Rubin noted that the guy was wearing sunglasses And he said, well, your problem is you're wearing sunglasses Because you tricked your body into not knowing when it's day or night And you're all covered up And the guy goes, well, I'm a dermatologist and my whole thing is is telling people to keep their skin safe from the sun and rick rubin looks at him the guy famous for producing uh you know no sleep till brooklyn or whatever uh saying to the dermatologist uh i never wear a shirt and i have no problems at all and he goes and the dermatologist looked at my back and he said damn it if you don't have the most perfect back skin i've ever seen even though you walk around all day in the sun on the beach and we should study you in in the dermatologist should study you and this is where i'm starting to be like okay i'm going to take all of this with a pretty monumental sized grain of salt that being said i don't think that it's i don't think the conversations are without merit but i also am not ready to like say that the entire dermatology community has been wrong about sun exposure for all these years It's somewhere in there.

the middle is probably kind of where the the truth is science should study you because you're so perfect that's when that was like the moment when cat williams said he read 3 000 books i was like man i'm digging this and then you say something that just really takes me out of the

moment now i believe in you people have said that science should study me but for very different reasons. All right, let's do a few blurs days here. We got Erica, Erica-tastrophe. Oh, sure. Erica-tastrophe says, Happy blurs to my best friend over 20 years and TBTL daddy, Maya. Maybe we will be listening to this together on our way to Hood River.

There's a hidden rally ranch party in my mouth.

Maybe we'll listen to this together on our way to Hood River for a weekend of relaxation, frivolity, and good music. Mike Maya is one of the most thoughtful, hilarious, creative, and patient people. Always send a bajillion pics of you, Gary, Steve, and Momo, and always the giant worms. It will never be too much. Nice. I was transported here against my will in a meatball. I don't have time to get into it now, but someday you might want to hear about my radio production of a remix of the old horror radio show, Revolt of the Worms that I remixed in the early 2000s. I obsessed over it. I think this is when I had a computer, but I still didn't quite have internet or something. Or maybe it was the first computer I had that had internet, but Genevieve had gotten me a CD that had like 200 old radio dramas on it, and one of them was a horror story called Revolt of the Worms, and I remixed it. Hello, CD listeners. I'll actually find that audio sometime and play it

for you. Did you burn it onto the

CD? No, so it was a gift that she got online, but this was during the era when it was like a data CD that had, I think, again, at least 100, if not a couple of hundred rates. I mean, what a world we lived in in the early 2000s. CDR? It was like a CDR, but it was purchased. I think she got on eBay or something where somebody took all of this, because they probably wouldn't have been copyrighted then anyway. The copyright or the trademark or whatever would have expired, which is why a lot of them are on like kind of cheap podcast feeds now. But anyway, yeah. So I remember just like having a computer and a lot of time in my hands and also, you know, being in public radio and loving mixing things and had my first like audio software and a computer at home. And boy, I used a lot of Mobb Deep. I'll play it for you. Sarah in Portland says, I want to wish Cassandra of Victoria, B.C. a very happy Blur's Day.

Oh, the gateway to Butchard Gardens.

Sarah says you might recognize her name and location as a donor from last week. She would be happy to fill you in on all the best places for tea in Victoria. You don't need to go to the Empress Hotel. And Victoria is full of beautiful free gardens. One hundo a day, five hundo a week. That's rich. That's it. There are a lot of beautiful free gardens, not just the expensive boot chart garden. Cassandra, I hope your Fri-yay. Hold on, let me do that again because I stumbled and these are important. And Cassandra, I hope your Fri-yay birthday is a blast from Sarah in Portland. And finally, Jennifer says, I want to wish a happy 12th Blursday to my five violets. You are such a funny, smart, and kind person. We're so lucky to have you in our family, and we are endlessly proud of you. Love mom, dad, Vivian, and Rambo. And I'm here to tell you. It was a freaking. There's no chance that Rambo is a cat. I believe Rambo is the person Rambo who went hiding in the woods For a while Then went back to Vietnam Leave no soldier behind Happy Blur's Day to Violet And Cassandra And of course to Maya Happy Blur's Day

Yeah all of you thank you Thanks for being part of the TBTL family The extended TBTL universe Andrew tomorrow's show On tomorrow's show I want to tell you about A massive amount of restraint That I've been demonstrating Today without you even knowing it Throughout the entire program The levee is going to break tomorrow The dam is going to break And I'm not going to be able to restrain myself anymore But I'll explain to you on tomorrow's program What it is that I'm doing here As I sit here and just Perched high above Times Square To not annoy you And not annoy the listeners

Okay

OK, well, now I don't want to ruin it. But before that, I forgot I had something I really wanted to raise with you. I was going to say you're so a nerd to the magic of New York City. It sounded like you were letting some some real I'm walking here moments go by without mentioning it because I heard honking. I heard that famous New York City cars honking at each other outside your window. Is that related to what you're showing restraint on? No. OK, well, it was I mean, I think you'd have to listen very carefully if you're a podcast listener. But, you know, with these closed ear headphones, I heard some real I heard some real New York City sounds coming through the window, Luke.

And it's amazing. I guess I never know what's yeah, what is what's audible and what isn't. But that is not the thing that I've been demonstrating a tremendous amount of personal discipline on it. Something else. And tomorrow I will end my tremendous amount of personal discipline and tell you about it. So it's probably bathroom related. It it isn't. But but it's a long time before tomorrow's show. So something else could happen. Yeah. You never know. All right, thanks, everyone, for listening. We are going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you, so please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves. Good luck out there in cold snow, ice, and windy land. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

And good luck to all. Can you verify?

Can you give me some 411? What's your question? How much milk do I have to drink to be big enough to be quarterback?

Drink as much milk as your little belly can hold. At all times, drink as much as your little belly can hold.

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