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Well, I just think I'd feel much better about it if we could lock down a great representation visually of what my brand is.

Okay, so how exactly would you describe your brand?

Like aesthetically or cinematographically, if that's a word. It's not. I feel like it's everything you loved about the classic movies of our childhood, like Sandlot, Billy Madison, Apocalypse Now, Happy Gilmore, Clueless. But at the same time, I feel like my brand is not rooted in the past. It's actually very forward thinking and like futuristic. It's like imagine like what 2090 is like, but like it's being described by someone who's from 1920.

T-B-T-L. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. It's Friday. Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend.

So I'm what's known as a psychic medium, but I'm also clairsentient, which means that I feel my angels. I'm also clairvoyant, which means I can see. I'm also clairaudient, which is most of the time I actually hear. I hear voices, and I also do financial advising.

I'm not handling this well. I don't feel competent. I'm depressed.

It's kind of weird. I feel like I'm being interrogated, but by someone who doesn't really want to know anything important.

all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a friday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live it's like someone punching your brain but in a weirdly satisfying way my name is luke burbank i am your host coming to you once again from the corner of

47th and broadway in new york city really are the most devious bastard in new york city where it is

It's snowing right now, and as of the moment, as of this recording, it's not sticking to the streets, but it is definitely starting to come down, and we'll see where things go. We'll see if we're able to get out of here tomorrow when it's time for our flight. But for now, it's warm and dry here inside the hotel, and we're ready to do the show.

Another day, another victory for the OG, taking down the sweats, the imposter's among us.

in this case the og would be the olive garden which i'm watching a continuous loop of three large video screens showing me olive garden food and i am not going to lie to you i don't know if it's stockholm syndrome or just the fact that i haven't had anything to eat yet today but they've got me the salad just the the way that they're pouring the that olive garden that classic olive Garden salad dressing in slow-mo over a salad with big, unnaturally large black olives in it. It's working. Another victory for the OG. Here we are in Times Square, also right near Broadway. I saw Hamilton last night. I'm the president of rap music, and I need to work with you right away. I had an interesting experience, actually, which we'll talk about today on the program. A program, by the way, which arrives at episode 4123 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. We'll also try to talk about Chad Face. What is it and how can you avoid it here in 2024? Your face. Who are you facing? Oh, and speaking of the video screens here in Times Square that I'm staring at, there's one that is really causing me to want to do something that I know will probably annoy Andrew.

Hey, want to hear the most annoying sound in the world?

But I am fighting it. I may lose the battle, though, before the episode is done today. Oh, speaking of my friend Andrew, he is the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He doesn't know this, but I've actually installed a series of hidden microphones in his studio, and this is actual tape of him getting ready for the show each morning.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

He's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Hey, Luke. I know you have a lot of adventures from New York, but I just saw something that is blowing my mind. As a 47-year-old, okay, let me pose it as a question. As somebody who was born in 1976, that's me. I was the one born in 1976 and grew up in the 80s and early 90s. And by the way, nobody's giving me a hard time about this except for me. I'm curious, do you think it's fair or reasonable for me to confuse Suzanne Somers with Sally Struthers. Because I am just now realizing after getting an email from a listener that I may have been using those two names inter-flippin-changeably my entire life. I know now that I see them in front of me, that we're talking about two different people. Two, I think...

blonde haired women yes with names that begin with s for first and last name alliterative names

blonde hair they were both pretty big in the same kind of era the 80s i don't think it's at all in fact i would bet you that a lot of people make that mistake they're kind of the dermot mulrooney and dylan mcdermott of their of their kind of scene you know what i mean very similar people and easily confused. I don't think this is on you.

Derek McDomdom. That's just a name I made up to throw it in the mix. Yeah, but this came up. Do you remember why it came up? I think it was yesterday or the day before.

You mentioned Suzanne Somers, and I said her husband, she and her husband were quite in love, and her husband thinks that he's haunted by her ghost. And now I'm wondering, did you think the whole time that the husband of the lady from Save the Children was being haunted by her ghost? I don't think Sally Struthers has passed, actually.

What if Suzanne Somers is haunting Sally Struthers' husband? I think I said something like, do you want to make more money or something? And I can't hear that phrase without thinking of this commercial from the 90s. Do you want to make more money? Sure, we all do.

That's definitely Sally Struthers.

That is Dylan McDudu. No, that is indeed. And I got an email from a listener who says, I think you're thinking of Sally Struthers. There's no other context. And I was like, oh, that is who I was thinking of. And honestly, as you're reading the intro, or not reading, as you're doing your intro to the show, I'm like, wait, how long have I just been saying one name instead of the other? I've never held the two concepts of both Sally Struthers and Suzanne Somers in my head at the same time.

You've never held those truths to be self-evident? Sorry, I've still got a lot of Hamilton going in my brain. Oh, yeah, no kidding.

How was Rap the Musical?

They gave me that bass, that big, big bass in my face. um back quickly to the sally struthers susan summers thing the reason that when you said something about make money and i just went with it was because well suzanne summers became very famous for the thigh master yeah and the story was that she had made she was actually a very savvy business person and you know through like qvc and and all these different things she had become quite the mogul i believe and so it just seemed like you were saying something about suzanne summer's post threes company business acumen but i did not realize that sally struthers who i think was in all in the family right she's the daughter in all in the family i i can confirm that now

because i'm putting it all together by looking at their wikipedia pages but you're right she was the daughter and all in the family she also was in that um she did voices i heard voices and they were her voice she was on that tv show dinosaurs not the mama was she the not the mama was she the baby dinosaur she played charlene sinclair i don't remember the cast of that show well enough or the characters of that show she played um pebbles in the tv show pebbles and bam bam the

flintstone pebbles flint but she really had kind of an era a sort of of of earth's history that she was really leaning into between dinosaurs and the flintstones yeah like it was real cave cave people although the cave people and the dinosaurs did not live together i want to be

clear about are you sure even i know that much i heard something on brock and sulk that well

i'm i'm going all over the map today andrew because it's a friday and i can do whatever i want we ain't got to work tomorrow i get to do whatever i want and one thing i'll tell you i began the week promoting something that i never got to but this is as good a time as any which is i have gotten really into turning on the bluetooth on my television and running it through my apple my big oversized apple airpod max headphones yeah i love that move and watching nova the science program on i'm not high by the way i want to tell this sounds like the most high person behavior of all time but nova has this great series about the kind of history of the solar system and the earth and you know just obviously very much sort of abridged and uh condensed and made graspable for nimrods like me, but sitting on my couch with those headphones on and just like listening to the thing, it's so immersive. And I know this is something that everybody has been doing. I have never connected wireless headphones to my television and I never want to go back. I never want to go back to just listening to the TV on the external speaker or whatever. It's like I'm at a movie or something. It's so cool.

And it's convenient. I mean, I know this is a very different, This serves a very different purpose for me, but maybe I'm even making the argument for lack of immersive. But for me, like if I if I'm coming downstairs, putting on headphones on the television will sort of both allow me to wander a little bit if I need to, but still stay focused on what's going on. I just I think I don't know what you would diagnose it as, but I definitely have issues with paying attention to the.

I just get like kind of antsy and there's something about having it strapped right to my head that just makes me feel like I can sort of consume it you're taking it with you

Yeah, you've kind of turning it sounds like you're sort of turning the TV watching experience into a more portable experience

It's almost half radio show half television which makes it and that makes it sound like I'm always away from the TV But it's not that so much as like maybe I'll be folding clothes downstairs And then you know my clothes also I keep them down here, too So I'll, like, fold clothes in front of the TV, then maybe walk behind the TV for a second to put some T-shirts away in my little locker or whatever. So I'm always hovering around the TV. I'm not just, like, kind of upstairs eating a bologna sandwich listening to Malcolm in the middle down.

Well, you did confuse Sally Struthers and Suzanne Somers. You're not making a strong argument that you're in the room with the television.

But that was before all of this technology. It really was. I will say this. I know that we get into this topic kind of a lot, and there are more interesting and more informed people to talk about it than me. But, like, honestly, there is something about Bluetooth and, you know, maybe for the past, I don't know, when Genevieve and I got this new TV, which is about a year old, is when I started, like, hooking my headphones up to it. It really does blur the lines between television and movie. And it basically blurs the line between my television and my iPad and my phone, right? It basically makes my television like a big fancy tablet, sort of, with a bunch of apps on it. Because, again, I'm not watching cable. I have a bunch of apps like Netflix and HBO and what have you. I have it on my phone. I have it on my tablet. I have it on my television. I can listen to them all through wireless earbuds or earphones.

It's just a screen. Yeah. It's just a different size screen that's bringing, which has been probably the plan and the dream of the content creators and even the technology companies.

I'm afraid I just blew myself.

Like to just create. Yeah, you just have all these different sized, you know, kind of windows through which you can look at whatever the content is, you know. And and in fact, I've seen these ads now. I hope I don't buy this, Andrew, because I don't need it in my life at all. but I saw the ad for it and I was like that is intriguing and it's just basically like a flat screen monitor that is you know exactly what you're describing I don't think it even works as a television that would you know connect to your cable necessarily but it's just something you can you know screen share with on your phone or whatever and it's on a rolling little cart and it rotates so it's a rectangle but you can I think you can rotate it so that it's basically landscape mode or like up and down mode it wheels around and you like let's say you know i'm somebody that when i cook i usually have printed out a text message from becca that's telling me how to make the thing i will print it out and i will pin it to the cabinet because the kitchen that i use is soon to be demolished so i'm like whatever but like if i could just if i because i'm the kind of person that if i cook i kind of usually need a recipe i need to be referring to it a lot i wheel that screen in i've got the new york times cooking blog up i'm looking at it there's something what they did was made a very compelling use case to me on this video that i saw now do i need this in my life no like you i have a lot of screens i have a phone that is a screen i have a i have an i had that i haven't used in five years there's an ipad sitting in the madrona hill studio doing god knows what because of course i acquired it when they came out and it just isn't something that really i use in my life i don't need another screen but i was very i was intrigued by this little screen that you roll around with you i am intrigued by that

too i haven't seen it i'm just picturing it based on what you've told me and i'm picturing it very like kind of modern sleek minimalist design now how about this luke how about we fast forward to the point where that technology is combined with both like your smart speaker technology and your Roomba technology so you can just give that guy a name let's say McDoodoo and you can just say hell no you don't you don't want doodoo in the kitchen sorry um let's just uh what's a good name for a robot yeah whatever uh hey Tabby hey Tabby come on in here in the kitchen we're gonna do some cooking and that little thing rolls up behind you and then and then spins so that it's like the right dimensions for your task at hand well Andrew that's another thing that I'm I need

you to hold me accountable to not buy please no there is this you know that robot that amazon it was at like whatever ces a couple of years ago by the way the the stand that i saw is i believe made by lg it's called the stand by me okay it's kind of a clever name and uh it's it it's exactly as you described it's a very sleek design and it's just a thing that you bring around that just it's like a giant ipad on a stand but then you can have all of your content there oh and it comes in

A metal briefcase that you can carry around like a high-power criminal.

That's another one. I think that's not – I've seen that as well. That's not the one I was thinking of, but that is also really –

They're both called standby meets. I see there's different maybe – models okay i have seen the briefcase one and again i'm like i don't need to carry a briefcase of television with me but growing up the idea of a briefcase with something in it that you i don't know why that's like you know the the what is it the uh male the male need to to dig a hole oh the masculine masculine urge the masculine urge to carry a brief like a briefcase around a suitcase around that has television in it uh i saw somebody on some online platform with this amazon astro which is this robot you know so-called robot made by amazon that is kind of almost i my guess is it does almost exactly what you just described it's on wheels it's got an i will call an ipad for a face but really it's like a tablet it's you know it's security system It's it'll distract your pets it'll follow you around and tell you things if you need them It's it's basically like an Amazon or sorry It's like an Alexa that can like cut you'd be like hey get in here and it can come into the room and like do whatever you want And it's the kind of thing that I just don't need in my life But again when I what happens is I'll just see a clip and the people putting the clip together Will have done a very effective job of creating a scenario that I think well what if I'm in that scenario? won't this be helpful this thing is freaking sixteen hundred dollars and i don't think you can even buy it it says available exclusively by invitation i think you have to ask to get a you have to stand there uh in a long line to get to a velvet rope to be allowed to spend sixteen hundred dollars on an ipad on wheels but i were something i mean the reason i know this is because i went to the website to go how much is that thing and it turns out way too expensive and way not worth it but it's basically what you described it's it's kind of a you could say autonomous or at least a mobile version of this that can drive itself into the room you're in and do whatever it

is you're asking it to do supposedly i don't know if this is the same thing but when i typed in ipad on wheels first of all the design what is the brand that you're talking about is this an actual this is an amazon made by the amazon amazon okay i need to take a look at that so that's probably my mistakes i have a bunch of things here that that is called up that are less like kind of cute looking and a little bit more industrial and a little bit more intimidating because people it looks like the main use for quote unquote an ipad on wheels is like and you've seen these in like whoa what kind of businesses use these i don't know but like i swear we've seen use cases where like you're walking down a hallway at work when people still went to places to work and then the boss would roll up and it's just their head on an ipad well they did an interview with like edward snowed in that way once i think back in the day right yes exactly and like there's something very

creepy about what i'm looking at here right no i i know what you mean and uh and this is i'm trying to i i took a picture of this thing it's called astro and i'm trying to send it to you right now um do you see it it's i mean it's the irony andrews oh this guy's cute okay it's cute as

all hell yeah yeah yeah like this is close to the ground it doesn't have a long spindly arm Or does it shoot something up? It looks more like a... It shoots webs. Okay.

Those are proprietary Amazon technology. So what they'll do is they'll put you on a schedule where it auto delivers new webs every month. Oh, nice. So you don't ever have to remember to refill your Astro webs. It'll just always have good wet webs ready to go.

I can't shoot web. I'm out of fuchsia. I'm out of cyan web. I don't need cyan web. I just want to use black web.

You know that I'm on... They've got me.

i'm on the toner delivery system really is your printer's just ordering it itself now

it's trying to i i sort of don't let it but i have what i have done for the first time is ordered toner through this terrible company amazon before my my printer was out of toner which is a first for me because it's usually like five minutes before the show i'm trying to print a show sheet and it's like sorry we can't do this the thing is running out of toner is like running out of gas they start telling you it's a problem long before it's a critical problem but when it becomes the critical problem then you're kind of effed and if you and i obviously

i'm not like this but if you train yourself to think that the the the first warnings don't mean anything it's hard to know i am like when to start paying attention to it precisely that's where you

get yourself in trouble like you know for my my entire from 16 to 25 probably if not longer I knew exactly how far below e I could go in my various beater cars that I had because because of not having any money and because of uh you know just pushing it uh to the limit I will say that I've been fortunate that in this phase of my life that is less of a situation in terms of like I have enough money to put gas in my car but I still feel like a Rockefeller when I When I fill the tank up,

I mean, you also have to be a Rockefeller in this day and age to fill your tank. It's like $70. But when I look at that thing and it's all the way full, I think I didn't. There was a time in my life when I thought I'll never actually drive a car ever that has a full gas tank in it. Like this is this is for the one percent. This is for people that are on the invitation list for Amazon Astro.

Do you think it's I know this is similar to another question I asked you recently. but do you think it's fair and reasonable for a kid who grew up in the 80s and early 90s to confuse fuchsia with magenta? Because I meant magenta there, and I said fuchsia, and I got

them both open on different tabs. Let me see if I can do this, okay? Is fuchsia a pinkish area with

points? It is. Okay, and then what does that mean magenta is? They look exactly the same to me. I'm going back and forth. I think it's fair and reasonable. They're the Sally Struthers and susan summers of colors that's what that's my argument that's my thesis it's very graduate

it's such a it's such a coincidental thing that you would bring up sally struthers here on this friday edition of the program because last night becca and i went to get some dinner at a place called sardis sardis which is kind of a legendary broadway uh restaurant i mean it's exactly uh it's sort of exactly what you would expect i guess in the food department which is not great but it has like old school charms super old school it has there's probably three or 400 caricatures the walls are covered in caricatures of famous people of broadway stars and but the caricatures are mostly terrible that's the amazing part so we were just playing a game of like who do you think that is like because they're they're not you know what i mean like you're like is that tom cruise ish like is like that's either you know like it's either tom cruise or l ron hubbard exactly i mean literally that would be that that was the fun of the game was kind of like just and then you know they've got there's just these like maybe three layers of these caricatures and then there's a big one above them if you've ever been mayor of new york you get a bigger caricature and you're on this top level and i noticed rudy we were sitting right by rudy giuliani i was like is there a mechanism for taking one of these down like what's the right but there was this one area that was literally just like a yellow in maine they they took him down well let's see what the supreme court has to say about that my friend but um there was an area that was just a it was like a yellow aura a yellow aura and i was like is that sally struthers they had decided to do Sally Struthers just as a burst of yellow curls and almost no defined facial features but I figured out it was her because of this angelic golden blonde hair that was everywhere and you know it wasn't Suzanne Somers

I know it wasn't because

the character did not have a thigh master

I actually, Luke, no joke you describing, I'm on their website I'm seeing some of these caricatures it really does raise the question I was going to say no disrespect Beck, there's no way I can ask this question without being disrespectful to caricature artists. But, like, is there such a thing as a good caricature, I guess? It sort of raises that question. But, like, your description of how they did Sally Struthers, actually, I find that to be very compelling and winning.

Is there a picture of that picture?

No, I'm looking for it now. Sorry. But just I like the impressionistic. Right.

no it's definitely clever because if you're going to do yeah you know what would be and somebody has probably done this the interesting move would be caricatures that are just like you said impressionistic like although the impressionists that's what like it's not says on those are very those are very literal no i just mean like a vibe how about this let's use that word yeah caricatures that are a vibe in essence in essence and that'd be a fun game and Maybe it is a game like somebody who has just created these things that when you look at it, you know what it means, even though it's not like they're not trying to draw Jay Leno on a surfboard, you know, hanging 10 or something like they're they're just there's something woven into it that tells your brain what it's supposed to mean, even though it's very non literal.

Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Just like a burst of color as a tribute to her to her locks. I love that.

Yes. So that was Sally Struthers. We did go see a Hamilton last night. And I know that the let me put it this way. I think you and I generally are a little bit less amped about the idea of Hamilton than our listeners are. Yeah, I'm just not a musical guy into musicals. Yeah. And I'm generally not either. Although what I've realized is I'm very into the musicals that I grew up with. Oh, yeah.

If I, like, you know, The Sound of Music, I love. Fiddler on the Roof, I love. The Music Man, Meet Me in St. Louis. Like any of the musicals that I watched when I was a kid, I love and I will sing them, you know, with a song in my heart. I'll be very excited about them. It's hard for me as an adult to bring new musicals, to create room in my brain and my heart for new musicals. And the thing with Hamilton for me was, it's there's a there's a sort of a non-self-awareness of a broadway musical generally speaking uh and and that's something that i sometimes have a hard time with that's i think really on me more than anyone else like the fact that if something isn't just a hundred percent self-aware all the time and constantly apologizing for its own existence i don't vibe with it because that's how i kind of am in the world a lot of the time is just constantly wanting to let everyone know that i get it that you know this thing I'm doing is not cool but that I'm in on it so then please don't judge me and there's something unapologetic about musicals just like we're just going to start singing and we're just going to be we're going to be totally earnest about this and that's something that I find kind of challenging then you throw in this kind of vaguely hip hop aspect like kind of you know rapping presidents and then it's just like it's it as you line it up it's a lot of things and then just the overall like nationwide at least the the nation of people that I tend to hang out with and talk to and love obsession that group of people the obsession with Hamilton which is to say generally speaking white people white college educated people the very people Nikki Haley is really trying to reach out to right now in this in the state of New Hampshire uh basically like a lot of the people that are in the world that I hang out in got really obsessed with Hamilton really obsessed and that's another thing that usually kind of like turns me off to something is if if it's if everyone else is obsessed with it and I don't get there first I'm kind of like hmm we'll see so I did at some point download the Hamilton soundtrack because I was like I've heard so much about this I should at least see what this is all about and I listened to it having never seen the actual production and I will say that the music did not immediately arrest me it did not immediately I didn't go like oh i get it now in fact i was kind of like this sounds like rap the musical to me i will tell you that i found it very affecting last night maybe it's just being in the theater with it maybe it's the i mean the performers were incredibly talented performers the the parts that were the rap rappiest were the parts i liked the least but the other parts the actual songs the the basically everything that wasn't someone rapping about the constitution i found god i'd love to read your

review like i wish i could go back like when did it when was it like real when did it debut like

six seven years ago luke burbank writing for timeout new york yes i'd love to read this review

like it's very good when they're not rapping about the constitution but like i was very i found it

very emotionally affecting i first of all i was really glad that i saw it and i i overall really enjoyed the experience and i found it to be a really a really moving thing and i i like i said i kind of what i wanted to say was like everybody everybody simmer down on the rapping and everybody just like let's keep going with the songs that were not the rap songs were so good and even the rap songs were i kind of got into it eventually because i mean what they're doing is they're just giving you a bunch of information that could be otherwise pretty dry and they're just kind of they're zhuzhing it up um i i swear i probably learned some things about u.s history from it which is kind of a sad statement on my level of education that these were things i didn't know before but like i found it actually so i found it very informative um and i was you know i mean the staging of it was really cool that's like has these because i don't go to a lot of musicals i I don't, it doesn't occur to me how kind of like, how well they've figured this shit out, right? Like the stage has these two rotating sections. So the very center of the stage is a big rotating thing, but it's all, you can't, you can't really tell from the audience. The stage is just flat, but the middle part is a disc, right? And then there's a wider disc that's outside. And so they can just do this stuff where like a character is singing a song and they're thinking about two other characters and those other characters are moving around them in this circle. like visually it was very very entertaining you know how were the um caribou the cgi caribou honestly it was so much more believable than season three of true detective great north by the way i've been going there's a as if i haven't gone hard enough on that product there's a giant billboard of a giant digital billboard of it that's right down the street from where we're staying that I keep seeing. And I want to just stand in front of it and go, not where Worth your time, everyone.

Can I just mention this? And again, I still haven't seen it. I actually still might watch that first episode because in a certain way, you didn't kind of going back to your hypothesis about things being hyped. You didn't overhype it on the show. So you've lowered my expectations, which means I might enjoy it more than I would have going in with the high expectations I was getting from seeing the promos. But I told Veeves, I'm like, oh, you know, we did talk about a true detective on the show. Luke saw it. Now, keep in mind, Veeves has seen it and she liked the first episode.

you saw it and you didn't yeah i'm i was curious to i mean maybe you mentioned that the other day and i i've forgotten it but yeah so she did like it she did and i don't know if i did mention that

the other day but i said oh yeah well luke um talked about it he didn't like it she's like oh i disagree i thought it was pretty good and like luke said that the cgi caribou were rough she's like oh god yeah that she's like i have to admit yeah and then she's like and then i'm like and the coke polar bear was in there she's like yeah it was the same thing as the coke polar bear i was

I love that I'm just ruining this for Veeves by way of you.

But then I said, what about some of the dialogue between the two detectives? It sounded sort of cringy. She's like, I didn't find it cringy. But anyway, it was funny. She's like, no, I liked it. I was like, what about the caribou? Ooh, yeah, the caribou. Yeah.

You know, I think that there is actually probably, I don't know if a parallel is the thing I'm trying to say, or some kind of a, there's a through line between these two things, which is both hamilton and this latest season of true detective which is like you can be a person it's possible to be a person in the world and not that i mean genevieve has i think one of the more discerning brains and sets of eyes of anybody that i know i mean genevieve can size something up really fast and really accurately but like there's a way of going through the world where it's like yeah okay every line wasn't perfect but i don't have to we have to throw this entire baby and bathwater out like okay they said a couple corny lines like in fact when we were talking about the sopranos you and i both agree that the scenes with the kids are rough yeah i remember

thinking you know even at the time i think but i don't like i did it didn't mean that i'd never

like i watched one episode of the sopranos and it was like aj said a corny line and then i was or meadow said a corny line and i was just like okay done with this show but i'm applying that standard to true detective there was like some bad cgi and then there was literally two lines that were that were rough for me and that's so now this entire production has no possible value to me or like the hamilton thing like okay i think that i'm i mean the great irony is i'm so so far from being a person who really knows about whatever passes for hip-hop now you know what i mean like and i when i say passes for hip-hop i don't mean that as a slam i mean i don't even know if we're

referring to it as hip-hop anymore the fact that you refer to it as a slam means that you're

familiar with an earlier era of hip-hop yes the band onyx slam let the boys be like the idea that i think i'm above hamilton because i know more about again a genre of music that may not even be called hip-hop anymore is kind of is a pretty sad commentary on me and the and what i again what i found myself feeling at the end of that production last night was very emotionally moved and very glad that i had seen it and you know once is probably enough for me i don't think i'll probably be jogging to the soundtrack i also really identified with the king george character which is bad because he's the bad guy in it but that guy is they just don't spoil it they have a very clever device i love that i'm describing hamilton to a group of people you're the only person who's hearing this who hasn't seen hamilton it's 2024 until yesterday you and i were the last two people in america who had not seen hamilton but and now only you have not seen hamilton but

i love that we're going to drop a podcast today on on january 19th the year of our lord 2024 and this and the description is going to be luke reviews hamilton but like i like if there is a

song from the soundtrack that I would listen to on repeat. It's literally the song that they have King George kind of sing. I mean, what's very clever about this production is the people who made it are obviously very steeped in the popular music of the last 20 years. So the songs are not parodies in any sense, but they are like those caricatures you are talking about. They're like a vibe. And what they've done is very cleverly created this song that King George kind of comes out of nowhere and sings that's feels like a song that you've heard but it's not but it feels like a kind of song that you might remember from the 90s or something where someone loves someone but they're obviously really shitty to the person and the idea being that King George is like you know hey you're my subjects and I love you so much that I'm gonna kill all of you if you don't love me but it's very funny the way it's delivered and he keeps coming out at different times and he's He's very much the comic relief of the show because pretty much everything else is pretty serious. in earnest and people are not gonna miss their shot or whatever the big song is he's like the only thing that's just objectively funny about it but i'm also an essential so i said to becca i was like that's my favorite character you know that's the bad guy in the show and she mentioned someone else that we know who had also said it was their favorite character i was like

let me rethink my answer on this one please i mean your favorite character is the grinch i

believe from most um well i mean honestly isn't the grinch the best part of that whole thing

i mean definitely the the character has more contours i would say there's i think that there's

actually probably a fairly long history of whoever the the villain is the baddie being actually the most interesting character in you know in whatever the thing yeah i don't it can't be an accident

that we're talking about the sopranos here i mean yeah like i mean in breaking bad i mean i think Our culture obviously has always played around with that. I think, honestly, the 2000s, we've seen a real rise of the antihero, right? I mean, those two huge examples right there, Walter White in Breaking Bad and Tony Soprano. But even like, you know, oh, God. All right. I started the thought. I'll finish it. But like, do you remember when Loretta Swit from M.A.S.H.?

That's who you're thinking of.

is that who played um what was her name hot lips hot lips i was gonna say kissy bones which i knew that was wrong on today's episode luke reviews kissy bones hot lips kissy bones say do you know is it reasonable for a kid who grew up in the 80s to confuse hot lips with kissy bones um uh what is the name of the guy from taxi driver Travis Bickle right yeah like yeah like I watch I knew that Taxi Driver was a movie that you know people who love movies watch and so I watched it in college and probably didn't have a lot of context for it found it to be dark and confusing and obviously recognize the iconic moments you talking to me right that's that he's in the mirror you talking to me I'm not messing that up you know

I don't think I've ever seen Taxi Driver I don't think you would like I mean it's very dark very

very gritty and of course he's like an absolute anti-hero in a way that i probably didn't even fully understand the first time i watch it which is weird because it's very clear it's very obvious he's a but like the i here's what i was going to say do you remember when you and i used to go bowling um and i would always use the bowling name hard rain i don't know if you remember that oh i do i just thought it was funny and i'd always put it up there hard rain and i thought first of all this is funny i was messing up the quote anyway like the quote from the movie is one of these days a real rain is going to fall I just realized that in the past couple of years but in my head it was always a hard rain is going to fall I was like hard rain that's a tough bowling name and I continued to use it and now I just realized like no that's a quote about a maniac who is like very racist and wants to clean the streets I'm just like what and I was bowling with my buddies the other day and I look up and it says hard drain and first of all I spell it as one word so it sort of looks like hard drain which i sort of like pronounce it that way too um and i was like i don't know if i want to use that anymore and then i sort of justified it like being like first of all the quote is real rain i don't even know if most people around here wouldn't they look up they see hard drain hard drain i don't know if they even make the connection but it started to make me feel icky i was like for years for like my adult years the last 15 years of my life i've been using hard rain as a jokey bowling name and now i'm kind of like wait a second am i am i

celebrating travis bickle's awfulness well it's i guess this is what this ultimately is is a silver lining situation which is your i don't want to say tendency i don't want to get in your head but the fact that you actually misremembered the quote is really saving the bacon on this one you know

right like it's your you know one of these days a soft drizzle is going to come and water really

takes the edge off because because of not having it verbatim so that's let's you know here's to that here's to me being sweetly simple all right let's thank some donors who are making the program possible today folks like kim kerr in seattle washington kim is financially supporting this whole operation thank you kim thanks kim another alliterative yeah Kim Kerr yeah any other summers Kim Kerr any other KK like um celebrities with the first name K last name K who are big in the culture nothing comes to mind crusty clown that's exactly who I was thinking I don't know if crusty the clown spells clown with a K though we've got the world's expert in here somewhere in this hotel room hey Bex how does crusty the clown and spell his name.

Is it Krusty with a K and Clown with a K? Oh, yeah.

I heard an oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Becca's family, I think I've talked about this on the show before, but they had... Oh, yeah. I think her brother, Jeff, would just tape The Simpsons, you know, just for years and kind of out of boredom or whatever, and they just had tapes and tapes of The Simpsons and would watch them whenever they were kind of bored, and their family, particularly these three siblings are just i really want them to go on jeopardy but only for probably like about i think a six season span of the simpsons i'm gonna really put them up against almost anyone in the world

well simpsons knowledge this is rough because that was a hearty laugh i got from the oh oh yeah but unfortunately according to the internet the clown is spelled with a c uh you've embarrassed

to me again on the show, Rebecca. Clown is spelled with a C. It was a quieter, oh shit. It just emanated from the other part of the hotel room.

Now her head is spinning the way mine was at the top of the show. She has to go back and recontextualize her entire life now that she realizes Clown is spelled with a C.

I'll tell you what's spelled with an M is McNamara. That's the last name of Aaron, who's in Westmont, Illinois, supporting the program. Thank you, Aaron. Appreciate it. Thanks also, Andrew. We got another alliterative first and last name, Stephanie J. Salmon.

Nice. Right up there with the Suzanne Struthers of the world.

Now, there you go. Suzanne Struthers. I love it. Thanks, Stephanie Salmon in Issaquah, Washington. Also, Amy Crockett checking in from San Jose, California.

I love San Jose. I only spent a brief period of time there, but I fell madly in love with it, and I bought myself a San Jose Giants hat.

I was watching some kind of TikTok clip of a podcast, and the podcast is, I believe, co-hosted by the sports journalists Aaron Andrews and Carissa Thompson. I've always been very fascinated by Carissa Thompson because she's from the Northwest, and I believe her family owns an auto dealership. And so because when she was getting very famous on the national level, She was still doing the ads for the local, like, I think because it's maybe, you know, her dad or her uncles or like the car lot is owned by her family. So even though she's a big national sports journalist now, she would still be showing up on these like, you know, on these local TV ads, which I just thought was great. Cool. Yeah. And so they have a podcast and this is related to San Jose. I believe it was I can't remember which one of the two it was but one of them was saying they had just gotten done with this big football broadcast you know it was like a Sunday night game or something or Monday night game or whatever it was in the Bay Area, it was probably Levi's Stadium and that they went back to the airport but they had a bunch of time to kill and so they had gone to this casino near the airport in San Jose and they had just been hanging out there and like kind of the joke being like are we the kind of people who would go to a shitty casino near the airport in san jose and i was like i know the exact casino you're talking about and i know exactly the i know exactly the san jose airport adjacent casino you're in because

i've been there many times i know where the good restroom is i know what's seriously like i mean

that's like that's when when people are describing something as a kind of like what has our life gotten to that we're doing this and you're like that's one of the reasons i fly out of san jose

You really

You've got to take a moment You've got to take an inventory Thank you to Amy Out there in San Jose Thanks also to Wayne Kirkendall In Mill Creek, Washington Second day in a row we've had a Mill Creek check-in

Oh, you're right Also second day in a row we've had an Amy I mean, who was from Mill Creek

I'm more impressed with the Mill Creek thing

Yeah, I guess But Amy was from Mill Creek, whatever Oh, really?

I forget you have all of this info

Not all of my comments can be winners, Luke. Hold on, hold on. Let me re-cut that for the final cut of the show. Not any of my comments can be winners, Luke.

I do think Suzanne Struthers is a strong one, though. That was funny when you said that.

Possibly a show title.

Thanks also to Sarah Wilcox, who's in Tacoma, Washington. Thank you very much. Thank you, Sarah. Appreciate you. Thanks to all of our donors for making today's program possible. We couldn't do this without you. Hello and welcome to Top Story. All right, quickly, Andrew, the thing that I don't know if you've noticed this yesterday when we were doing a sound check. And then I guess you wouldn't have heard. You couldn't have heard after we dropped the line and I was going on with my day. But in both cases, I've been walking around this hotel room singing a song in my head. And it's because.

There are these big video screens everywhere in Times Square, and they're on these crazy loops. I was talking yesterday about how there's this one for this BritBox show called Archie, which is about the actor Cary Grant. It's like a biopic series, but I'm looking at it right now. All that happens is he falls backwards into a swimming pool. It's like a five-second clip, and it's on crazy repeat. And last time I was here, or at least a year ago when I was here, was talking about that movie trailer for violent night oh yeah where santa just like kicks a bunch of ass and what i've decided that they've figured out is the average amount of time that someone will look up when walking through time square and how long they will fix their gaze on something right and the average number of people who go through time square and they've done some sort of math where they're like we have this timed out so that like what they haven't designed it for is a podcaster sitting in a hotel room staring at it for 1.5 hours like that's not what it's designed for that's not the utility and so it makes me it drives me insane because i'm just watching this loop over and over and over and over again but if i was just out for a stroll with the family in times square and i looked up and i see archie falling into a swimming pool i'm like oh that's interesting maybe i'll look that movie up or that show up you know so one of the things that's on crazy repeat is some service called link tree i think what link tree might do is it might be a place where if you can i jump in here i have a link tree link trees are pretty common

it's on um like instagram you can only put so many links in your bio so you put a link tree there and then it's like another it's like kind of like a social media addendum sort of so like i have a link tree that links to tbtl spotless pod after these messages my instagram and whatever social medias i have and you can just all put it there then you throw your link tree into your instagram

bio or your twitter i thought it was just a link to various trees you've seen yes i mean is that

i'm sorry to cut you off but i kind of know is that what you expected it to be um i guess i did

but now that you say i first of all i very much appreciate you jumping in and clarifying and uh I guess I was thinking it was something like that, but I've also, now that I think about it, I've seen Linktree in people's bios a million times. I just never put it together. So one of the people that's being advertised on Linktree is this guy, Brian Jordan Alvarez, who's this creator on TikTok, who I really love. He does these insane characters that, without the visuals, it's kind of impossible to understand what he's up to. Like, this is one that he does called, like, Your Rich Southern Aunt. and this is like your rich southern aunt talking about her dilemma with hotels uh-huh let's see here oh you know what i might have to switch this over sorry i think i've heard of this before yeah it's he's i again the visual he's got a wig on when he does this and he uses all kinds of weird filters and stuff which kind of adds to it but just like uh hold on a second let me get over

to the actual i think something people i think something people don't relate to that much because I try to be relatable, but there are some things where I go, okay, well, most people aren't having to deal with this, is that we are always debating when we go to a new city, because you don't know what a hotel's going to look like until you get there, and we are always debating St. Regis or Four Seasons, St. Regis, and when there's only one of them in a city, it's nice, because the decision feels like it's been made for us, you know, But Four Seasons has all this, all these benefits, and St. Regis does too, and we just love the service at both places, and we just love the brand recognition, especially when you're going somewhere where you do not know what's going on, you don't know what's in the grocery store, blah, blah, blah.

by the way i love that line for some reason like their grocery store is just gonna sell ice or something you know he has this incredible ear for like just the way that people talk yeah this is this guy i'm obsessed with i don't know what the hell this character is it's a guy with like a kind of unplaceable accent and the filter he's using is making i don't even know what the filter is it's like making him into a very hunky guy but with weird proportions and he's this is him this character whatever this character is just talking about going on hinge and like the dating

app can anyone tell me what the frit i am supposed to do on my first hinge date you guys this is not sponsored content i started to chat with someone on there i said where would you like to go to eat they said let's just talk for a little longer say we did i discussed how prometheus is one of my favorite film, the opening shot, mained boy.

in and then guess what she said okay i would like to meet for a coffee you guy i'm so freaking nervous i have a lot of confidence in my career i am available to get the full-time job etc you all saw it happen that now i've got the real life in front of me and i'm going okay i can do So let me know if you have a bite

He does this other guy Who's like the filter he's using Makes them look like a Combination of droopy the dog And like a baby But it's just like a southern guy Who I guess sells cars This is him just sitting in a park doing this guy

Park day Sitting out in the park Thinking and listening and learning From all the folks here Walking around talking about what car they're going to get for Christmas. I said, come on down, we got deals. And a lot of them are ignoring me, but the ones that pay attention are going to get a better deal on one of these Nissans or Hundys than I have given to anybody in years, y'all. Mark my words. I'm not playing with y'all. Not today. Not ever. The deals are off the charts. that's just an incredible opportunity to zone in and get yourself a new car right before the end of the year we got the new models in 2024s they're gonna fly off the shelves don't don't make me don't make me sell all these cars and you're gonna miss one

I mean the thing too is it's the character he's not standing on a car lot this is what this is what I find amazing and and kind of I don't know so appealing about all this is there's no logic to any of it he's not in like a kind of a bad suit standing in front of like a you know fake car lot background being a guy he's sitting in a random park probably in New York somewhere Using a filter that makes his face look like a cartoon droopy baby And for whatever reason in his brain He just starts talking about selling cars Like it's so All of it is so kind of mismatched in a way That I really love it It's not like a bit where it's like This is my character who does this It's like I'm just going to turn this camera on And go with whatever goes into my brain Now, I'm staring at him right now Brian Jordan Alvarez, Linktree All together on Linktree The problem is, Andrew, and this is where my brain is broken Brian Jordan Alvarez, also the guy who does this. Oh, how about that? How about that for a reveal? Playing through the wrong thing. He's the guy who does the sitting song. And I have been singing this song in the back of my mind for, I don't know how long we've been here now, 48 hours For 47 of the 48 hours, I've just been singing the sitting song By the way, he's not in the video He's not doing the song It's just a picture of him But when I see his face, I hear this song And I can't, I've just been whistling it I've been thinking it Becca and I were jogging in Central Park earlier today And it was just running in the background of my brain All the time By the way, I played it for her She had about the reaction that you have Limited interest

well my interest now has shifted okay i mean it's not something i can ignore anymore you've played it so much on the show i i don't feel like i had a huge feeling about it at first but now i do sort of get angry because it gets stuck in my head when something like because because you played it so much on the show now we have a lot of listeners who will call in and i play these

voicemails too i love those voicemails i yeah i i welcome them and i asked they would send more

And I always said, I always play them, you know, didn't somebody, we played one the other day where they took that tune, but they turned the song into about digging in your backyard, digging.

Yeah, because we've done a lot of tunneling content on the show recently.

Somebody was making a salad and called in and did a salad related version of that song. But the problem is then I carry it around the rest of my day, right?

The body keeps the score.

The body keeps the score. And maybe you don't remember, but yesterday when we dialed up, the very first thing that you said was you were humming that song and I swore at you. I don't know if you realize I was swearing at you or if you just thought I had a cable management issue on my side.

I think I pieced it together that you were like, thanks for putting that in my head.

Yeah, exactly. The very first thing I heard, like you dialed up and I heard you going.

Well, that's because that's because I can't. It's impossible for me to sit here in my little perch and...

and stare at this obsessive, almost Tony Orsler-esque. I think that was, was that his name, Tony Orsler? There was a video artist back in the day, Tony Orsler artist. Why do I do this to myself? There was somebody who did these art projects where he would do all kinds of stuff, but one of the things he did was created this video clip. this was before GIFs or things like that, but he took a video clip of Michael Jordan doing something for the Bulls and then he somehow digitally erased Michael Jordan from the clip. And then it would just play like on this kind of like repeat, like this, like, I don't know, five second or maybe even glitchier kind of fast repeat. Basically, Michael Jordan, hold the Michael Jordan. And I remember seeing these pieces by him and they were kind of, they were weird, but very arresting. That's basically what's going on here, except in the interest of commerce. just these like crazy glitchy repetitive repetitive videos and i can't stare at them without having that song on my head so i want to apologize i will i will also mention that probably as a joke one of these characters that brian jordan alvarez does probably does something that we now know as chad face who are you facing you sent me this article from gq written by kate lindsey about this phenomenon that i i didn't know it had a name and by the way apologies to our listeners named chad we have a lot of great listeners named chad love you all sorry that you're getting caught up in this you know in in the fact that we have to give a specific name to these kinds of things our friends who are named karen can really relate um but uh i had seen this for a long time on tiktok but i didn't know that there was actually a name for it and it's kind of this thing that a lot of typically younger guys are doing to try to look chiseled and hyper masculine sometimes they call these people look smackers as in m-a-x-x-e-r-s looks maxers like they're trying to maximize their look and the this is also remember when i was talking in passing about that jack harlow song that's like you know uh i'm vanilla baby but i'll but like whatever all of the guys all of the typically white guys because the line i'm vanilla baby because jack harlow's white all of the white guys that are vibing to that song and just trying to be kind of like hot in these tiktok videos are all chad facing hard it's a thing where you you basically And do it with me Andrew And the listeners can do it at home You are trying to make it look like You have this very sort of large Pronounced I guess we would say Hyper masculine kind of jaw thing So I'm just going to take you through it First you arch one eyebrow As if you're Dwayne Johnson

I was going to say there was a good Example of how to raise your eyebrow In this piece It would be like the rock

This is also Andrew how I learned I don't think I can arch my eyebrow you know is that something like everyone can do i i can't i don't know if i can really do that i

feel like there's a mirror here hold on i'm gonna i feel like it's something that i do but i can't

control it does that make sense and i feel like the part of the reason that it was like dwayne the rock johnson's signature move is because it isn't something everyone can do like it's notable you know that it's like he could do this really pronounced version of it but you're supposed to Two, arch your eyebrow like you're Dwayne the Rock Johnson, being told something dubious. I'm just reading directly from this piece in GQ. Second, slim your nose by sucking in air. Okay, so we're all doing that now. We're all arching our eyebrow. I'm going to pass out. And I know I'm seriously already hyperventilating. I'm slimming my nose by sucking in air. and third bite the sides of your cheeks to create two chiseled divots and then finally flex the muscles around your shoulders to appear more beefed up jeez flex them up down what i don't know okay so let's from the top i mean i'm super hot

from the neck up but i don't know what to do with my shoulders right now

i really would like the show pic to be us trying to do this because i just checked myself out in the mirror and it looks like i'm having some sort of yeah some sort of medical event so arch your eyebrow like dwayne johnson slim your nose by sucking in air i'm also a little stuffed up sorry nice this sounds hot i know aren't you everybody i'm sorry you have to pull over right now because of how hot i sound i know it's distracting people and uh but you're uh create some cheek divot And it fucks the muscles around your shoulders if you're more beefed up. Hold on, I'm going to do this in a minute. Like, forward? I look... I look like if Jim Varney...

was doing an Ernest P. Worrell character, but then was run over by a steamroller.

Ernest P. Worrell?

You know, Ernest Sage Christmas.

Oh, that's the full name. Oh, wow. I use his name because it matters, Andrew.

Put some respect on Ernest P. Worrell's name. Yeah, Ernest, sorry. I guess I could just say Ernest and people our age will probably know what I'm talking about. It looks like Ernest, but he got run over by a steamroller. It is. How are you looking when you do it? Are you able to get it?

No, I can't see myself. And frankly, I kind of don't want to. I find these instructions to be somewhat confusing. I can sort of picture it. I find it interesting because this article also sort of talked about the phases of the selfie. Like selfie wasn't a word for you and I growing up. I don't know if I mentioned this, but I kind of grew up in the 80s and early 90s. Is it reasonable? Is it reasonable? Or a person who grew up. To confuse duck face with Chad face. but like they mentioned in the article the the kind of evolution of what people and they talked to about how it's often women because of the because of the demand society puts on women to look a certain way that like the sort of the duck face sort of started there and then there was something that I had not heard of before although I recognized it immediately from the description soy face is that is that look that yeah where they sort of like open like often women kind of open their mouth like in a look of like kind of surprise almost like anime s a little bit yeah although I have friends on my timeline who do that a lot I kind of didn't realize it was a thing as soon as I read this I'm like oh this is like this is like my friend in New Hampshire she does it and you know my friend in New Hampshire I don't know if she's doing it I'm just picking on her but like there's a lot of people I could picture this immediately and I don't know if she's doing it specifically because it's something that a lot of other people are doing or did in this era or if she would have always done this i can't explain what i'm saying here that's a good line also

you're totally right it's not really anime i was i was thinking of something else like there's a kind of also newer version that's probably less widespread than this where it's kind of like a people again doing almost like a cartoonish character but this is something different

you're describing soy face yeah and and again i don't know why it's called that if this article explained it i don't recall or maybe they just linked to another piece about it but anyway like it was like it was i found this piece revealing because i was like oh this is something i've seen but i didn't know was a thing but of course it's a thing and of course it has a name you know

soy uh soy boy face also known as the soylent grin which is by the way pretty genius oh is

this a different thing i wonder if i've got this totally wrong what i was no no no this is know

your meme i think this is all soy face okay but i think that maybe the formal name like like the fact that Ernest P. Worrell is the full name of Ernest. I think soy face and soy boy face, my guesses are the same thing. Um, Oh, okay. Yeah. It was, I wrong to say that, that, that

this is something a lot of women do because if it's literally called soy boy face, and when I type in soy face, I, the first things I see are a bunch of, um, bunch of guys doing it. So if you

scroll down on this, know your meme, which is where all of the young people get their information about memes it shows uh man and some women i don't think i don't think it's exclusively male maybe that's where it got its start but i think it's i think it's you know applies to a lot of different folks soy boy face also known as the soylent green soylent grin new male face new male smile soy face and cuck face is an internet slang term referring to a facial expression associated with men described as new male or soy boys who are photographed expressing surprise or excitement with their mouth agape online a variation of woe jack referred to as soy jack is illustrated with the open mouth smile i think what what they say in the article and what you're referring to also andrew is that this is this particular kind of face is very associated with online content like maybe in youtube or other places where you're scrolling scrolling scrolling and the thought is oh if this person looks like they're really having a good time and excited you might be more likely to click on it right yeah it's it's an appealing thing for the tile you know for the youtube tile that that it's out there in a sea of competition and you want to see you know them being kind of like whoa is going to make you click on that yeah and also i mean i really had this wrong though

because i thought this piece which i don't have in front of me right now the gq one i sent you i thought they specifically had said something about that being something that women do like women creators and like a kind of content creators and influencers and whatnot to, to, to, to both make it seem like something fun and exciting is going on, but also it's a way of holding your face. So it's very attractive. That was what I thought it was by the way, this is me. And I wonder if I just thought about the couple of people in my life who I've seen do this and they happen to be women. And, and it does, it is a very striking pose. I think it's very pretty, But I think I was putting my own my own bias on this. I've totally missed what this trend was. It's soy boy. And it's and it's it supposes I'm reading Mel magazine. Rest in peace. Luke has a piece. Soy face is real and it's annoying. It just needs a better name. I'm trying to see how long ago this was written. But I mean, this is where things get really cringy. It's like me trying to explain the depths of of current like Internet culture.

Yeah. No, nobody needs that from us. Either of us. But here we are.

Sorry, everybody. I wish I could delete the last 15 minutes of this.

wait i can but i think that the the point that the writer in gq uh gq that what kate lindsey is kind of saying too is that this this is something that has actually kind of started out as some sort of a joke or maybe a ref a self-referential thing or a whatever but it's now become kind of unironic it's become a way that like certain kind of typically guy tries to sort of project some sort of like what they think of as attractiveness and i have seen this like i said i've seen people doing this forever and i never knew that there was a name for it but now that i've seen myself doing it in the mirror uh i'm gonna start because it's incredible it will get me some clicks oh yeah the chad face not yeah i mean it not of people thinking i look good it'll be people thinking that i need medical attention people will be i will be getting like medically swatted people will be calling 9-1-1 on my behalf to get emts to wherever i am when they see me doing the chad face all right how about a little music for your weekend before we get out of here uh what would you like to play on this friday my friend

what if i just nixon part of today's show i told you in the last second oh i've never done that before what if i just like told you after the show hey luke i'm sorry something happened with the tape recorder like a bunch of it is just deleted unfortunately chunks are deleted you've

now ruined your you've now blown that i would believe you that's how little i know about the technical aspect of the show at this point i would be like okay i guess why was he calling

me halderman that's weird but okay whatever it's fine hey hey that's fun adds a new little spice to the friendship um i don't know if this is a lazy pick or not because i feel like whenever they come out with a new record or i guess he comes out with a new record we play it by youth lagoon um you played some youth lagoon a couple of months ago rabbit uh a new song um came into my life via press release i believe a couple of weeks ago and i've had this in the queue for a while here i don't know if you've heard this yet luke but this song is called football i don't remember that is youth lagoon it's it's mostly the project of a guy right or is it a full band

is he out of chicago he's he's well he's from originally idaho oh okay yeah and i think he went my memory is he went through um he went through some sort of a like a medical thing where he was having a really really difficult time singing um because of like i i don't want to guess but i remember him doing interviews about it and it was one of those things where he was kind of not sure if he was ever going to be able to sing again which is weird because the guy from like the band beirut also went through that there was a period of time where there was two different interviews on NPR with musicians who had lost their voices and then had like rebuilt their voices and it's easy to mix them up but the guy from Youth Lagoon did go through

some version of that for what yeah yeah Trevor Powers and also sometimes performs under the name Trevor Powers but then sort of resuscitated this project called Youth Lagoon I believe in the past couple of years and usually whenever I hear a song by them I like it so here is one of the latest This song is called Football.

She was on the train tracks waiting for the blood to rush And you told me I was staying strong, all I've done is play along And they put it on, they put it on me, don't put it on me Maybe you're not the person who caught the football Maybe you're not the person who caught the football

You know, I know we've been talking about football too much on the show lately.

However, it's a groove. Yeah, it is. I have been that I don't have the name off the top of my head but whatever that album is that we were talking about that came out

A little while ago, a few months ago, I've been playing the live and Tweedle out of that, particularly that song, Rabbit, that I played as a music for your weekend a while ago. Oh, my gosh. That song takes me on a whole journey very into it.

Now, this song that I'm playing for you now is not on that release, right? I'm just wondering.

I don't think so. It doesn't. I think this is new, but it could be. You said it's called Football?

The song is called Football, yeah. Maybe this is just a song that's been out for a while, and they're just promoting it now. I'm not exactly sure. No, it looks like a single that just came out a couple of weeks ago. So anyway, yeah, the song is called Football by Youth Lagoon. If you like that, it's on the Spotify's.

Speaking of staying with or going with what you know, my suggestion this week is basically my probably my two biggest musical obsessions over the course of the last two years. In fact, at Christmas time, Addy was showing me how to this is, again, a reason that people turn to us for Internet analysis, Because I know so much about the internet That I didn't know how to look at my Spotify Wrapped And Addy had to show me how to do it at Christmas And It turned out my most played song was by MJ Lenderman You have bought yourself a boat

I love that guy

And of course I also love Waxahachie I've been absolutely Was absolutely obsessed with That album St. Cloud And still am and love it very much Well guess what Waxahachie has a new single out with MJ Lenderman two great tastes that taste great together I believe that Waxahachie has a new album that's going to be coming out in a couple of months and I cannot wait but in the meantime the song right back to it is Waxahachie and MJ Lenderman can we hear a little bit of that

photograph of us in the spotlight on the hot night i was gifted in and out reticent on the off chain sign frontier than the bullseye begging for peace of mind i get ahead of myself Bracing for a bombshell Your love's written on a blank check Buried around your neck, I was at low But you come to me on a fault line Deep inside a gold mine Hovering like a mole I lose a bit of myself Laying out eggshells

I've been yours for so long I'll come right back to it I let my mind run wild I don't know why I'd do it You just settle in Like a song, we know it If I can keep up We'll get right back to it

All right, A Little Waxahachie, MJ Lenderman. It sounds, I say this, you know, with all the admiration in the world, it sounds like a Waxahachie song to me. And I like Waxahachie songs. Like, I like the fact that the song sounds like kind of what I hope it's going to sound like, if that makes any sense.

I had a weird marijuana flashback during that song. This is a new thing. Have you ever heard of a, this has nothing to do with the music at all.

Wait, a flashback to a time you were enjoying marijuana?

No, I mean, I'm half kidding because you'd hear about LSD.

I see, it was as if you were high and you sort of had a flashback.

But yeah, but it's not about the song. It's just something weird happened to me. Maybe it's because we're recording a little bit earlier in the morning. I almost had a hallucination. You know how people talk about LSD flashbacks or whatever because it supposedly stays in your system. That's not really something with marijuana. So I was joking about that. But there is a – I don't know why I'm talking about this. But there's a specific marijuana strain that's been around for a while called Headband. I don't know if you've heard that in any of the music you listen to. And it got its name supposedly because, you know, sometimes if you smoke it, one might feel like they have a headband on even though they're not wearing one and this stands out to me because i remember smoking at one time and having that and like having that sensation happen to me and not realizing until later that i had been smoking something called headband and being like holy shit that's really a phenomenon i'm not gonna say it works all the time but they have one called big junk they have one called chad face i don't know if that's gonna i'm on it right now, my dude.

to get you anywhere but um but i remember that like it's almost like it'll sometimes make it feel like you're and i wear hats a lot anyway like often build like baseball caps or something yeah and so it's sometimes you'll be high on this stuff you'll want to kind of take off your hat you realize oh i'm not wearing a hat like years ago that happened to me but just sitting here i was listening to that song my mind was kind of wandering and then i went to take off my hat and i wasn't i'm not wearing a hat and that's why i said that's the headband of songs i don't think that that sensation i just had literally has anything to do with uh marijuana that i smoked in the past but it really was like i sort of was just like listening and vibing out and then i

wanted to take off my hat and i wasn't wearing one wow that's very interesting i i honestly i i it

was a weird momentary sensation that i did not have to talk about on the show but i brought it up because i thought that you might specifically find that interesting i do find it very interesting

i really i really do like there's a dazzling detail into marijuana i feel like there's a

dazzling detail you will share with other people well have you heard of headband becca have you

heard of headband weed don't call it don't call it have you heard of the marijuana string called headband that makes you feel like you're wearing a headband even if you're not you didn't do that

at university of oregon no all right oh for two here hey uh speaking of you and becca and your big trip to new york city did you guys end up getting to jog through central park yeah we did

it this morning yeah how was it really it was really fun you did it before the show we dialed

up at 6 a.m what time did you guys jog at like 5 in the morning well no because it's it was not 6 a.m out here oh i'm such an idiot i was thinking like because we recorded an hour early it's 9 a.m out here and in my head i was like oh man luke's really getting up early today because it's going to be 6 a.m on the east coast i was doing my math wrong i should i wish i didn't disabuse you of

i want you to think i'm that productive no because we it's it's snowing here but it's weird it's not sticking but it's just kind of snowing and we were really wanting to try to get this jog in and we're worried that tomorrow it might be not possible because of weather we're very like being now from portland we're very i'm taking every weather report very seriously now because of everything that's been going down in portland and i mean it's just it's very weird to be here in new york marketplace that I think of as in the winter as being much colder and harsher weather wise and then we're just on our phone looking at like oh my god look at this trading our phones back and we're like look what happened in this place and this tree fell on this house and this terrible thing happened and these people have burst pipes it's just like you know it sounds like a really really tough scene my sister's restaurant Pollo Bravo they keep having to close because there's so much ice no one can get to the restaurant well at least they don't have a frozen I thought you're

going to say that they had a pipe burst I saw some um like there's I've never been there but There's kind of a legendary hockey bar in Greenwood called the Angry Beaver. Yeah, I saw that they like had some sort of made like their pipes burst open and it's caused major damage. And they posted something like we don't even know if we're going to reopen again. And that made me really sad. Like I've never even been there, but I know it's sort of that's been around for a long time and is a beloved kind of place in the community.

Well, they got that place was notable because they basically got ahead of the Kraken thing. Like they started that bar, I'm going to totally guess here and say three or four years before Seattle got an NHL team.

Okay, so it's not a super old bar.

No, it's not from my 20s, but it was cool because it was like, hey, we've got enough people that live around here that like hockey that we're going to make a hockey bar and have a funny name, the Angry Beaver. And I remember being written up a lot and people loving it, and then we got to Kraken, and it was like, oh, shit, this is like perfectly timed. So to hear that they may or may not reopen is what a bummer. So, yeah, that's going down like crazy. And all of it's got me kind of skittish. We moved our flight. We were going to fly on Sunday, but now we moved the flight to Saturday night because I'm like a really big work day on Monday. And I was like, we can't be at JFK Airport on Sunday night trusting that we're going to actually be able to like like it's really impacting behaviors for for us. and so anyway we were out doing this little jog this morning and we were like should we just go so we did the whole loop we're like should we just go go for it because we never we never know what tomorrow may bring this is our one wild life in new york city so yeah we got out and got it and got a jogging this morning it was actually quite fun um so uh so yeah this is actually turning out to be a fun trip even though even though the weather's a little iffy so we're gonna go see Chris's show tonight oh nice gonna go watch if you're if you tune into msnbc tonight and all in and you hear someone going woo woo woo in the background it's just me is this camera it's been

a long time since I've had cable I know that Chris sometimes would do um would do shows in front of like a kind of a small audience this is not that are you guys just visiting it's a very small

audience of me of just you guys yeah okay and the camera guy probably so um but that's so that'll be really fun. I saw Hamilton last night.

Yeah, it's been a fun kind of quick little trip to New York City. So the listener suggestion for the music for the weekend this Friday is from listener Matthew, who says, hey, dummies, I'm listening to episode four one one eight. And you're discussing whether you want to talk about the weather or not. And this song called Weather by Lawrence popped into my head. It's an eight piece soul pop band headed by siblings Clyde and Gracie Lawrence. Clyde actually went to D.C. and spoke in front of Congress for the Live Nation Ticketmaster Monopoly hearings recently What side was he on? Well, let me finish the sentence, Andrew I did want to yell that, like, I didn't but I was tempted last night in Hamilton when they finally have the duel between Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton Luckily there was no lull in the sort of singing and dancing and everything because I was tempted to be like, who won? Like, we kind of have a sense for it in the beginning But he is a huge advocate of bands getting paid their due from their shows. Andrew, he's on the side of bands. He's not on the side of Ticketmaster.

What I call the wrong side of history.

But anyway, that's not just me, Andrew. That's listener Matthew writing in the email. But anyway, this song is super chill and mopey and kind of fits the winter wonderland we have here in Michigan and what sounds like part of the Pacific Northwest as well. So that's what we're going to hear. The song is Weather by the band Lawrence And that's how we're going to wrap up this broadcast week Thank you so much for listening to TBTL Thanks for being part of this thing We're going to see you on Monday with more Imaginary Radio In the meantime, stay safe wherever you are Have a great weekend And please remember, no mountain too tall And good luck to all

A part of me will always be in love with you There's a fire in LA And since you moved there back in May I wonder, should I call to see if you're right? Yeah, you're a million miles away But I still think of you each day And hope the weather doesn't keep you cold at night So I won't talk about the weather No, I won't talk about the weather I won't talk about the weather Not with you, we're not together Cause even when the sky is gray I'm feeling blue And though the winds are always changing And the clouds are rearranging A part of me will always be lovely

Mom, Dad, I've got a little surprise for the two of you. I think I might just buy you a 30-room mansion in Beverly Hills, California, complete with push-button phones. Look at this face. What do you see? Look at it, Dad. What do you see? What do you see? Say it. Say it. Well, I mean, it's a face. Yeah, but what kind of face? Well, pale, pasty, psychotic. No, Dad, it's a neatly chiseled, well-groomed, drop-dead, handsome face. I'm going to become a male model.

Yeah, but Chris, you can't just walk into the glamorous, high-paying world of male modeling. It takes hard work. It takes dedication.

And a semi-moderate amount of attractiveness.

Power out.