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Carla Tuesday, WDUR, The Durr. Reverend Richard, is it true that you'll be representing yourself?

Carla, let me tell you a little story. I was walking on the beach with the Lord, and there were two sets of footprints in the sand. And then there were three sets of footprints, and I said, who's that? And the Lord said, it's Dale Earnhardt. He's a big fan of yours. My client won't be answering any more of your questions. Stay in school, kids.

at first he's silly and then he's magical and quite wonderful and you just don't know how to react except you're entranced so we're gonna play a little game called cursed or not cursed you sound like you might be a little bit jealous babe no and i i know a little something about being jealous because people have been jealous of me my entire life i have no idea what you just said, but I feel totally transformed. In a few hours, you're going to be smarter than anyone

you've ever met. All right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Tuesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. If God wanted us to listen to audiobooks,

she wouldn't have given us eyes to watch TV. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I just want

you to be normal, and clearly you're not. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty columbia where it is a foggy foggy day although the temperature has skyrocketed it's like 40 degrees warmer something than it was the last couple of weeks when everything it's 50 degrees okay so maybe it wasn't 10 degrees before but it's significantly warmer here in the pacific northwest high above the mighty columbia meaning i don't even i don't even have to run any heaters right now that might or might not actually blow the fuse and take the entire show offline. So we're calling that a big W early on this Tuesday as we've arrived at episode 4125 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. For many, many years, people who like to think of themselves as being somewhat in the know as it relates to music have referred to the Pitchfork rating of something. Or the way in which Pitchfork Magazine sort of, you know, reviewed a particular piece of music or album. And now it turns out Pitchfork Magazine is pretty much all done. That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. And the person who was telling the staff that they didn't have jobs anymore, at least most of the staff, was the famed, now Condé Nast executive, Anna Wintour, who the reports are did not take her sunglasses off during the entire conversation. Where I've landed with this story is the comments defending Anna Wintour in the comments section of Variety magazine. I don't know if this is because of Devil Wears Prada or what, But, like, there are some people who are ride or die with Anna Wintour. We'll talk about that coming up. Speaking of people who are ride or die, this guy is the longest-running co-bro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's thinking about, now that Pitchfork is kind of fading into the background, reviving his blog covering some of the 1950s and 60s greatest jazz performances on the Colgate Hour.

It's Don Bondarly, King of the Dirty Songs.

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Ba-doop, bop, bop, ba-doop, ba-doop. That was my imitation of... Where be your nutcracker?

Jazz. Most people would recognize those sounds I was making as jazz sounds, right?

One of the things, Andrew, about borscht is... Wait, is it... Gazpacho is if you're expecting it to be cold and then it's room temperature, it burns you.

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. King of the tuk-tuk sound! Yes.

Exactly. Oh, yeah, buddy.

I told you I wanted to tell you something at the top of the show.

Yeah, you said you had a breakthrough, a personal breakthrough.

I know. I'm trying to think of how to describe it. A personal breakthrough is a good way of putting it, an achievement unlocked, if you want to put it in the parlance of video games.

Yeah, and I do.

And it's going to sound like I'm exaggerating this, and it's going to sound like I have hot takes on the industry. And I've been doing a lot of soul searching. I don't think I do. I think I've just been an idiot for a long time. But as of yesterday.

I play this one. I want to have some coffee. Honestly buys me a little time Okay, sorry, please I think I think I figured out like

bulbs for the first me if not for the first time in my life for the first time in a really long time now i told you i think a couple of years ago that i thought somebody could do a cranky sort of essay uh like a back in my day greg cody style essay on um modern light bulbs i feel like growing up we we picked a light bulb out of the light bulb drawer or box or whatever and it's it had of wattage and you plugged it in and it was fine right and then and if you didn't know about its

lived experience you might shake it and listen for that little jangling telling you the filament was busted and then you knew that you could go out back and throw it at a brick wall or something

fun that that sound i think still exists or i have some old light bulbs in my house that burned out

recently they put it into the new led bulbs kind of like the way that the evs will have a pretend

motor engine on them that's right i guess led does not have that so maybe it was an old light bulb i threw out the other day but a bulb went out on me and i just instinctively took it and rattled it up against my ear to make sure that it was the bulb that um was out and not something wrong with my lamp right it made that telltale this is the slightest slightest tiniest that is

a sound that i think we may be the last generation i know of people who uh know exactly what that

sound is but i think here's the deal i don't think that light bulbs are maybe as complicated as i'm about to make them out to be i think the thing about light bulbs is the the industry has changed they've moved to led by law i believe right even federal law i think um and that's fine i'm not gonna i'm not gonna make an argument like light bulbs were better in the old days it's just that i was never able to wrap my head around what i'm buying in the store these days because it's not just wattage there's a brightness factor and i think there's always been maybe a cool and a warmth that you can choose from but somehow maybe when i was younger my parents did the shopping

and so i was just grabbing and honestly box i'm guessing they had fewer options yeah like i think you just like you said there was the wattage so it could either be like a really bright bulb because it had a lot of wattage or or it didn't but that was like kind of i feel like the extent of the mixing and matching and now you stand in that light bulb aisle at your local hardware store and the various options are pretty overwhelming i it was like a if not a new yorker cartoon it

was like some sort of a cartoon i was looking at light bulbs in the grocery store the other day just staring at it then another guy about my age came up and we're both just staring at the light bulbs and after a while and i was thinking like do i say something and then i finally just said it used to be easier didn't it he's like i don't know what i'm doing anymore i'm like i don't either man and like i think there's like a there are different measurement factors now but here's what i really think it is i don't buy light bulbs that often and i don't buy them often enough to remember whatever lessons i've learned from buying it the previous time you know like you could remember 60 watts yeah or like 40 watts or whatever it was let's take a different product let's say i'm buying bread and i buy a brand i go 40 watts on my do you 40 watt bread um now that i'm older my doctor has told me i need to cut down to 40 watt bread that's smart see i'm still eating 60 watt bread but less of it you know whatever gets you there yeah but um anyway if i'm buying bread and i buy a brand or a um a type of bread that i take home and then end up not liking that much it's not it's what is it a week or three weeks later somewhere in that window depending on your bread consumption before you're back in the store.

And you know, don't buy the one with the crazy guy playing an electric guitar on it.

Oh, yeah, the mustache guy. Don't buy the mustache guy. Killer Dave. Or do, like whatever.

Dave's killer, or the one with an orca on it. They make it very helpful because there's a lot of shit going on on those bags.

And it's like, oh, I just bought this other bag, and that wasn't good, so now I'm going to try something else. And then you can dial in what you like, and the next thing you know, you're kind of buying the bread you like. But with light bulbs, it's like, well, the last time I was in the store buying light bulbs was about a year ago because when i bought them to replace one light bulb that was out in my house i bought a four pack and i don't like it because they're too bright and they're too like of a cold light or whatever um but i've just been going through this recently and i now though last night went out to my little uh back porch where i keep the light bulbs i keep light bulbs outside luke i don't know why but we do we have a little back porch where there's like some sort of like storage it's somewhere between like this doesn't belong in the garage but it doesn't belong in the house sort of and this is an outside product for whatever I mean not to be

used outside but to be stored outside I kind of get that it's a little bit complicated this this

little uh enclosed little porch area we have like if we were in LA it wouldn't be as strange like because the distinction between between indoor and outdoor in a place that is more temperate like that doesn't matter as much and so this little like kind of it's just a few stairs leading up to a back door that nobody really uses except for us it has some sort of like kind of just shelves sort of and so we just threw our laundry stuff there when we moved in because we needed somewhere to put it and then it just sort of stayed out there anyway that's not oh god damn i'll cut that out um but anyway yesterday i'm looking at my light bulbs and i'm like you know what let's sort this shit out and And I pull out the light bulbs that are, first of all, I have one box that is labeled as like soft white light bulbs. But what's in there is a bunch of random light bulbs with various socket sizes or whatever. And so I pulled out all the randos and I put those in a box and I labeled them like random light bulbs. And then I dialed in. I'm like, oh, I have these that are the nice warm ones. And like a dad, I wrote on them, nice warm light on these. And then I have the other one.

With the Sharpie on the bulb or on the metal part?

With the Sharpie on the box. And I've sorted them all out. And now I have another box that are like these bright white ones, like kind of a very cold light that I don't think I realized I was buying. But those are fine for like a kitchen fixture, like up in the ceiling or something.

You call those like the Righteous Gemstones teeth color.

Yes. Have you been watching that? Is that why that's on your mind?

No, but I just feel like a lot of people on the show have particular, like Walter Goggins' character has some real Da Vinci veneers that are, those are about 120 watts.

Exactly. And so, anyway, I labeled the outside of the boxes. I also bought some, like, sometime in the past six months or so that were nice and warm, but they were also literally warm. And then they were literally hot, and they were burning up my lamp, and I couldn't figure out why I couldn't touch my lamp. And that's because I didn't notice that I think I bought, like, dimmer bulbs for a non-dimmer lamp, and apparently they were getting real hot in there. So I got rid of those.

Is it possible they were for an easy-bake oven? You had created an easy-bake lamp. Did you ever try balancing brownie mix on top of the lamp?

I made the tiniest, tiniest little chocolate cake, and then I frosted it, and then I ate it, and then I just swallowed it like a pill. How fun.

It's really the journey.

But no joke. So I now have, like, two. I'll send you a photo. I have two boxes of light. Well, three if you count the miscellaneous box. But I've got two boxes of light bulbs out there, one that says warmer, one that says bright, cold, bathroom, kitchen, and then one is 75 watts and a brightness level of 1000 thingies lumens lumens is the word i'm looking for there and then the other one is like 60 and it's 800 so like and i know what these light bulbs look like now and so the next time i go to buy light bulbs i can look at these boxes and i can say like i like these warm ones but you know what they were a little bit bright i can knock that down to 60 i needed a baseline and that was it like my entire adult life i had not established a baseline on buying light bulbs and i feel i mean i know i'm going off on this in a peculiar way but i'm being serious i'm no i understand about this yeah i get it jalapeno jalapeno jalapeno let me jump in here and just say i had in my office here luke a couple of like i have this little light stand with three little um kind of lights on it i don't know you've seen it before i don't know if you can describe it better than me it sits in the corner it sits on the floor it's a stick lamp sort of with three um fixtures on it it sits on a train it sits in the rain it likes its ham it likes its bam um how can i not find a word that rhymes with ham on the fly that seems like a seems like a basic one orange there it is uh anyway i had been replacing the light bulbs in it and like one of them was a nice soft warm but the other two were the bright white that do not belong in my studio like i like this studio which is wood panel to have a nice warm light to it but i just plugged these light bulbs in i was like oh that sucks the wrong light bulb but i was just living like that for months i was just like yeah shitty that i put the wrong light bulbs in here like not really ever thinking well why don't you just go figure this out why don't you take five minutes out of your life figure out what is in these light bulb boxes and get the right light bulbs i've replaced them it's a soft yellow light in here luke i'm happy and I'm happy, I'm excited for the future.

You've basically become not just a battery daddy, but a bulb daddy. I'm a battery daddy and a bulb baddie.

I feel warm and I'm levitating.

You're a power switch, and I love that about you. You can go so many ways with that. But I know what you mean, and this is actually something that is very interesting to me and relevant to my interest, because here I am at the Madrona Hill studio, And there's still so, so much that construction that needs to happen. And in fact, all of the kitchen appliances are showing up today. So I am like really on tenterhooks about that. Because once those are kind of at least sort of in place, like I don't even know if they'll be. Functional but once they're just sitting where they're going to be then I can start measuring for like how much Countertop do I need to get and cabinets etc. But all that is to say I still Oftentimes don't have any system like you're describing for anything and when I do when I take you know an afternoon and kind of go like Well, this is gonna be where this stuff lives as they say or this is gonna be you know, let me just organize this It's easy to get overwhelmed by the chaos of living in a house like I am right now That's just so many piles of things. It's like well, why would I organize this right now? i'll throw another thing on there for you uh you want to you want a fourth category a category do you want a fourth category of light bulb how about i've got about six to seven light bulbs that are totally uh functional and new but they have paint on the top of them yeah like splatter well because they were in these i had me and my dad put in recessed lighting like cans and um And I had the bulbs in them and then the guys came through that did the sheetrock and the painting and they just like hit it with some kind of a, you know, like a paint sprayer and it got on all these bulbs and they are still functional, but I don't, now I feel like they're basement light bulbs. that's what i told my dad i took them all out and i replaced them with new bulbs um and by the way i've been recently in like home depot looking at bulbs going i don't know soft white like having the exact call me next time i know you're really like you're the guy on this because i need to get i need to get my system set up like what do i want to have in the house i have every pretty much everything on dimmers in the house because i like to get that sexy sexy lighting when um i'm here by myself or with the cat but like that so that's a whole thing you got to get bulbs that you know will respond positively to that whole sort of thing that also i think kind of changes the calculation a little bit because if you're going to be dimming them then i feel like the brightness i guess you maybe want them to if they're at their full brightness to get as as bright as you need them to be, if that makes any sense. But the lights in the living room of my house, which is like really the one finished area, those are just living at about half dim, kind of like me, living at about half dim most of the time, because I don't really like, I don't want, I don't know, there's like 16, you know, recessed lights. I don't want those on full blast most of the time.

But I don't have a system yet. And I don't even really, to be honest with you, Have a strong thought between the yellow or the warmer idea of light and the brighter, whiter idea of light. Like, it sounds like you actually, when you go into a room, you're like, this is a room that I wanted to have this kind of light in it. And this other room, like, you're pulling a real Todd Glass.

Yeah, I do relate to that a lot. Like, not as probably knowledgeable.

Well, have you ever unscrewed the light bulb in your refrigerator before a party? Because famously, he did that during an episode of Modern Comedian, which I, again, cannot recommend highly enough. If you're somebody who loves comedy, go on YouTube and check out Modern Comedian. It was a thing that my friend Scott Moran made where he just interviewed comedians about various things in their life. It's really well done.

But, yeah, I'm pretty obsessed with the lighting of a room I'm in as far as, like, setting a tone, whether I'm here at home. or and I know I've been to play you and I both like kind of divey bars or like at least you know going into a bar every now and then that is not like super fancy I feel like people call too many different kinds of bars dive bars when they're not really we've run into that even with actual

friends of ours oh yeah but people who have said we're good I love how little it takes to get on my radar for life one time one person says oh I love this dive bar and you and I we all got there And I was like, it was a really nice bar, but it was a lovely time. If someone would have said, hey, we're going to go to this lovely brew pub. They don't get the sound effect right now, buddy, a 11 years later or something. But as it was, I was like, I was thinking we were going to a dive bar.

But you know that you've been in establishments with me where I've been like, oh, too bright. Right. Or like, I don't know that I've ever been in a bar and said too dark, probably. But I don't know. But you definitely like you want to go in. you want to relax you want to like you know huddle in a booth or over a high top table or something

but then it's like super bright or i don't even understand restaurants like teriyaki places that have that like there is an hour of the night where regardless of if alcohol is involved or not i'm not going into a place that has harsh lighting even if it's to get a burger and fries and just

sit there yeah like it's a whole mood absolutely and then there are times when maybe you're out and you want something like that. You want something that's going to make you, like, Veeves and I left a scary movie years and years ago, and I remember just being like, we need to go to Applebee's, like, nowsies. Although, by the way... decent lighting actually that's a good you and i you're right that's you and i have uh have enjoyed more than one applebee's on our trips around this fine country applebee's nails the lighting you're

absolutely right on that like that is that's pretty good lighting i think it's not super dark i mean you don't want you know it's a it's more of a restaurant than a bar um well i don't know if that's actually true do i stand by that what do they call themselves grill and bar so i guess it's

both maybe yeah i guess it depends on where you are in your progression of alcohol consumption because there's a lot of people that probably just use an Applebee's to get food. I've never done it. It's never been my move, not me, but when you and I have been in those Applebee's, it's usually been like we're on some trip around the country. It's the only restaurant that seems maybe open and also kind of semi-decent in the town we're in, and we've enjoyed it greatly, if I remember right.

And as a kid, I mean, I will say that as a kid, an Applebee's was very much a place we would just go. Maybe that's why I said I think of it more as a restaurant Because like those kind of chain kind of places when I was like a youth or whatever, let's say, you know, and we're living in the suburbs when I was in my early teens, like we would go have family dinners or whatever. It would be at like an Applebee's or a TGI Friday's kind of place. And it was just like a restaurant.

But point is like, would you say it's a restaurant within a restaurant? That was not loud enough. And I apologize.

But, you know, like you don't want it super, super dark. You want to see what you're eating. That would be creepy if it was too dark. but also you don't want it like super bright like you're walking into a cafeteria you know or a cafetorium and so yeah lighting is even here at home like I will put on this is one of the reasons I don't like TVs like on and like teriyaki joints you mentioned going into a teriyaki joint and that really bright garish fluorescent feel of a lot of them but then also in the corner I was saying this to you the other day that I can't tell you why it makes me uncomfortable but then like on some shitty flat screen TV there's some midday programming and they have the motion blur on and it's like it just adds to like the ambience being like just making me kind of itchy here at home if these and I are playing darts listening to music I'll turn the TV on but then just find something that is sort of visually like I don't want anything that looks like reality TV that's awful you want something that is sort of warm and cozy feeling an old movie with the volume turned down or some random old I'm not even sure Genevieve put on a bunch of jetsons episodes the other night which was like kind of a nice vibe but anyway yeah i'm i'm kind of i don't know if obsessed todd glass is obsessed but i am certainly concerned with the lighting as far as setting a mood well i'll call you uh in four years next time i'm in the

light bulb aisle because the other thing is that they now last a long ass time because they're not using that horsehair filament right you know whatever whatever like uh edison you know put in there and so they're there that's the other thing that adds to the confusion is it may have been many years since you needed to buy light bulbs because they're not burning out you know on the same sort of schedule you know what i'm big on right now and this i guess is because i'm paying for cable still is uh the fireplace channel and it's it's funny because i now have effectively a sort of a fireplace in the house i have a pellet stove um which is basically where you take your stove complaints before they get elevated to the high court but um that was an appellate pellet joke that um i think really really nailed it um but anyway i have this stove it's a pellet stove and it creates kind of a fire feature in it which i'm really excited about because i bought it online and there were pictures of what it was supposed to look like but you know you never really know until you get it in your house but the thing was it just took like an entire day to install for me and my dad there we had to cut a big hole in the wall there's pipes and you know venting and things like that and so when we and then the first time i was trying to burn pellets that had been in the basement of this house i can't remember if i got into this on the show or not but like after literally literally like an entire day i mean weeks of waiting for this thing and then an entire day of setting it up and then i put the pellets in because there was a pellet stove in the basement too of this house in the like really crummy kind of cellar and um so the guy had whoever owned this house before me had some bags of like pellet fuel and i was like hey free fuel sweet so i poured some of this uh into the pellet stove and boy this thing didn't work for shit it would kind of like start to heat up the little have you ever used one of these or been around one of these this was all kind of new to me no but i've heard of them i mean they're kind

of a they're they're kind of a big thing right people love their pellet stoves what I really

like about this one is well the reason that I went with it is because the venting is different for this particular thing like if you put a the first of all there's no like gas or propane out here where I live so if I was going to do a gas stove I'd have to get some big tank installed and this whole involved thing but if you put in like a wood story. You do what you have to do to vent it and the kind of chimney that you need to associate with it You know what I mean is pretty intense like it's got to go up like 10 15 feet and So this pellet stove you can just direct vent it Which means you can just kind of like send it right out of the house And then there's you know some stuff going on outside, but it's way less extreme than the other options But I wanted something that when it was on fire would have some fire happening Because that's the cozy factor that I was looking for i mean i could have just put a heater in if i just wanted warmth i wanted it to be kind of this nice cozy feeling because there's lots of you know foggy crummy days up here and uh and and you know it's nice to have some little fire feature but uh because i didn't know anything about pellets i thought well i could just use this bag it seemed like it was a brand new bag it was sealed but what i learned eventually was no it's just sawdust and if it's been sitting in the semi-flooded basement for eight years it's probably not going to actually burn properly but um anyway so we fill i fill this whole thing up with literally 40 pounds of pellet and then try to light it and then it's just kind of like sadly warming up these little like sawdust turds of wood and my dad this is this is the difference between me and my dad my dad goes well that just may be

what it looks like and i was like it can't be what it looks like this is my life we're talking about

dad it felt like it it felt like it andrew like it really did i was like the amount like i did not do all of this to and spend all this money and do all this research for this to be the thing that we're looking at for this to be the the cozy factor and uh and so it was about it's probably eight o'clock at night and we were you know had finished up dinner or something i think there was was a football game on or something and I'm just sitting there at the table I think my dad can tell there's something up with me because now my wheels are spinning and I'm like I think it's just that that I think it has to be that that those pellets are bad right it has to be and he's like I don't know we'll find out tomorrow I was like I think it has to be and then I just look at him and go I'm going to Home Depot so it's like eight o'clock at night I'm jumping in the car I'm burning down the hill getting to there before they close to get a new bag of fresh pellets bring them up I have to scoop out the other like 40 pounds out of because, of course, that's also me. Like, I'm not going to just put in like two two scoops of pellets and see if it works. I'm going to dump the entire bag in there and then find out that this stuff doesn't really work. But anyway, I got it all scooped out. I put the new stuff in and it was tremendous. And I was very, very happy. It was it was quite a relief. But anyway, I feel like I was going somewhere with that.

But it's well, it's about it's about like the setting of coziness. Yeah, as opposed to just like smoldering away, you wanted something. And I can totally relate to that. Also, for what it's worth, regarding your storytelling there, Luke, I'm glad that you mentioned you scooped out. I almost jumped in and said, but did you have to scoop out the old stuff? And you were right there with that information. I didn't even have to ask. Scooped and vacuumed and shopped back. That must have taken a while, huh?

It was a major pain. And I was like. I love that show. there's an god that is some of gerald gerald mccraney's best work and don't sleep on delta burke um i i had to there's an auger in there i mean it's actually quite a fascinating piece of machinery so what they have figured out is you know they can just i don't know if this is at the like i don't know how they make these pellets i feel like it's got to be some byproduct of something else like there was a like a sawmill and they were like god what is this what can we with this dust like well we could probably crush it into you know compress it into little pellets and someone will burn it but you put them in and then there's this auger that's in this you know in this stove and it just sort of rotates whenever it needs to and it drops like three or four pellets into this little like burn kind of box that's got a filament in it and it just like heats these things up but it's i'm so pleasantly surprised with it if anybody is thinking about getting a pellet stove get at me and i'll recommend this one because it has a full on like you know fireplace oh but here's what my point i will at times now also just have my tv on the fireplace channel while there's a real fire going because it's now become like visual cozy white noise for me so like last night i was doing some work and whereas you know sometimes i'll just have whatever on in the background i now put the fireplace channel on sometimes in the morning when i come down or it's just so relaxing it's kind of the default setting for me unless i'm actively

watching television yeah i like to have it on i like the patter i love the patter i want to get

you a dvd of the fireplace channel andrew then you and veeves can have a cozy fire in your basement anytime i need a thumb drive luke gotcha look we put out a lot of tvtl every week five episodes And yet we hear from some folks. saying, but what else can I listen to? And I've got the answer for you. It's text me back the new weekly podcast from Lindy West and Megan Hatcher Mays and our friends over at KUOW. Lindy and Megan are actual high school friends. They went to Garfield High in Seattle together and they've stayed friends all of these years. They've both done incredible stuff professionally and personally in the world. And now they're getting together every week to talk about pop culture and politics and their lives it is such a hoot and it is really one of my very favorite things happening out there in the podcast world so please go check it out again it's brought to you by kuow and the npr network they get new episodes out there every thursday so go get it wherever you get that kind of stuff wherever you find your podcasts if i'm muted right now you've muted me right into a mutiny my friend thank you baby how dare you tag my cross promotional reads uh let's thank some donors these are the wonderful folks who are keeping tbtl going uh we would not be here without the donations of our donors in fact we're starting to have some meetings and conversations and thinking about the next TBTL-a-thon, which is going to be, I think it's going to be really a wonderful time of community and of getting to keep our jobs. That's going to be one of the most wonderful parts about it for me, is hopefully keeping our jobs doing this.

Yeah, me too. Buying more light bulbs.

Yeah. We want to thank Kristen Kelly of Willoughby, New South Wales, Australia.

An international edition of the Donors of the Day.

Seriously. I think maybe other than Canada, because, of course, the proximity, would you say that Australia has to be the country that is not the United States or Canada that we have the most listeners in, right?

I can't tell you listeners, but if I sort a column here, do you want to actually know the answer to this question? Because I could right now tell you where the most of our donors come from outside of the United States.

I do want to know.

You ready for this? You do want to know? Okay, it looks like we have, this is a shocker. This is a shocker.

God, I wish I had a sound effect for that.

We only have two daily donors from Australia. What? That doesn't seem right, does it?

No.

Is there any chance that it's marked? And then we have, it looks like, how many of Canada here? It looks like we got about, we have a lot of Canadian donors. It looks like 10, 11. We have 11 from Canada. That's going to come in.

How are two from Australia? I feel like I can name two from Australia.

Yeah, I'm missing somebody on here who I know, I'm pretty sure is a daily donor. But keep in mind, we also have dazzling donors. I'm not looking at dazzling donors here. Those are different areas. And so these are people who donated at the level to be thanked on the radio, which is not every single donor. Right, okay. It's not the dazzling donors.

I guess I would just say get it together, Australians.

And Australians are just as unique, both warm and direct. Well, Kristen definitely got it together.

Yeah, no, I mean, unquestionably so. So thank you, Kristen. Thanks also to Denise Stock, who's in Export, Pennsylvania. Oh. We love a good, I'm sure this came up last time we read Denise's name, But we love a good Pennsylvania name that is maybe more of a verb than it needs to be. Like good old intercourse, Pennsylvania. Oh, sure, yeah. You know, export, Pennsylvania. City of industry. This happens to everyone sometimes, Pennsylvania. I've been there. Visited there far too often, honestly. Thanks, Denise. Thanks also to Laura Keene of Fullerton, California. This is often where I make my Biola Hour reference. This is the once a year where I talk about Fullerton, California, looming large in my brain as a kid because one of the Christian radio shows we listened to on KCIS was hailing from Fullerton, California. It might not have been the Biola Hour. It might have been one of the other ones. It might have been Chuck Swindoll. It was something that was... I wonder how much that Christian talk radio set me up, Andrew, in a way to do this job with you all these years later. Like, because, you know, of course, I've talked a lot about my sort of tween and teen years where I also listened to a lot of talk radio, probably in a way that was kind of unusual for someone my age, but that was to drown out the possible sounds of my parents visiting Intercourse, Pennsylvania upstairs. But even before that, we used to listen to a ton of Christians.

talk radio like the main stage there was two Christian stations in Seattle that I well that's not true there was actually a few but the the the ones that we tended to listen to were KCIS from Christa Ministries KCIS which was like the talk radio station and then KCMS which was the music station but mostly what would be on in the house if I remember right would be basically the KCIS the talk the AM talk radio that was just preaching except for when it was talked back with Bob Larson which oh my god that was incredible that was the original Christian Jerry Springer show oh I mean worse than Jerry Springer it was like the Richard Bay show which was for people that know like one of those talk shows that didn't even didn't even feature Jerry's final thought where he'd say be good to yourself and each other like the Richard Bay show was like let's just if the Jerry Springer show is too highbrow for you you could watch the Richard Bay show. But anyway, uh, the talk back with Bob Larson was that he would cast demons out. People would call in and say they were demonically possessed and he would cast them out over the radio. Oh my goodness. And when I was homeschooled and a board as anything, because my homeschooling involved zero academic work, I would just wait for, I think it was like 2 PM when talk back with Bob Larson would come on. But I always had a really strong connection to people talking through the radio to me about whatever the topic was so i'm still like that honestly like if i'm

flipping through the channels like i usually have my car radio set to a.m as we've discussed but then if like the sports station is in a commercial break and kick c is playing something

from the 80s libertines exactly but they're playing something from 44 years ago like

little if i wanted modern music i'd listen to the end um but uh yeah but then you just kind of keep flipping now you can run into some really toxic things on the am dial but also you sure can but if you can just find some like non-hateful like religious radio or like i don't care just tell

me a story or or make it interesting you know exactly like i mean i don't know i don't we're thanking the donors i don't need to take this into uh you know i don't need to take it to a weird place but one of the things about my childhood with all of the stuff now that goes on with the conspiracy theories on this sort of ultra right and all of this you know q anon stuff it's it's so interesting to me to see it unfold because i listened to all of it on the radio as a kid and grew up with it you know we had books that were sold at the back of our church like the coming world crisis and there was so much talk of satanism and pedophilia and all these shadowy cabals and stuff like this was a big and my parents weren't like the leading proponents of it thankfully but you know it was in the it was it was in the in the air when i was growing up and so now to just see uh that getting kind of adopted by a bunch of people who don't have a particularly religious bent but are just like conspiracy minded is it's an interesting experience because it's so much stuff that I just grew up with thinking was you know kind of really happening I'm gonna try

to make something full circle here and I think I'm gonna fail I think Tim and Katie Mackey of

Tacoma Washington beg you to right now Andrew because they're like really that's where Luke

had to go before our thank you did was it was a pellet burner also part of the the the culture then too am i am i thinking wood stove just a wood stove but just the idea of being able to survive if the grid went down but pellet burners are a newer no but here's but here's where well

i mean i i i mean in my family i don't know what was going on in the wider world i mean i think that pellet stoves definitely existed but here's where it gets even more confusing andrew we had a wood stove always growing up um in you know our rental house and stuff because my parents were not big on turning on the heat so we always had a wood stove like an insert that my dad had put in but a lot of times we would actually the the wood that would go in there would be pallets oh maybe that's what i'm thinking palette palette palette that's confusing so we would get you know these wood pallets that had been used to ship whatever like my dad's sign shop was adjacent to like um an appliance store jack roberts linwood home appliance we won't be undersold and they would get a lot of stuff delivered ironic by the way that today i am awaiting the delivery of like four appliances andrew will they be on pallets um if so you've

got to give them to your mom remember i mean she's called dibs no she's you know what i'm doing with

those pallets if there are pallets i'm first of all i'm not telling susie um until it's her birthday no but i'm putting them in the basement because the base my basement currently floods so much smart i gotta get everything up there you gotta get everything up yep but um but yeah what we would do is uh my dad would you know collect up lots and lots of these pallets and then we would just like cut them up and and

stack them and use them for firewood. So we did not have a pellet stove when I was growing up, but it was effectively a pallet stove a lot of the time. What a pail. Yeah, that's full circle right there. Sort of. Thank you, Tim and Katie. Thanks also to Carolyn Archer, who's in Cambridge, Massachusetts.

Aha, I've been to Cambridge. I love Cambridge. That was something I enjoyed watching the holdovers, which I guess we didn't see Cambridge shots in there, but seeing shots of Boston, that outdoor bookstore in Boston,

Had you been to that place?

Yeah, the bookstore I'd been to before. I was talking to Vives about it after the movie. I had that in the wrong part of town, though I thought that was near Harvard Square, but no, that's in Boston proper. But yeah, I do love that part of the world.

I liked that movie a lot. I'm going to say it, Andrew. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I thought The Holdovers was good and that Paul Giamatti's performance was winning.

Do you know that I think I had the absolute perfect experience of watching that movie? I mean, I don't know if we even talked about it on the show, because you'd already seen the movie and reviewed it.

I bet it was Winter Games time, too, maybe, right?

No, I don't think it was Winter Games time yet, but it was, Luke, the day after Thanksgiving, a matinee. The air was crisp. My date was Genevieve. We went to a little lunch counter and had a burger beforehand and then walked over to the Ballard. Is it the Majestic Bay? Yeah, Majestic Bay in Ballard with the huge marquee. And yeah, it was just like to watch that movie, which is essentially kind of a, you know, a holiday film, kind of a kind of a depressing holiday film in some ways. But like, you know, that type of movie and that type of theater on that type of day with that type of gale.

Oh, I had a much different experience at the Majestic Bay, Andrew, when I was probably about 12 years old. my friend Peter Williams's sister Dahlia worked there so we could get in for free as Frankie Hoy would say and we went to see a movie I believe it was called Pirates I remember it was I believe it was literally it wasn't Pirates of the Caribbean that hadn't been invented yet at least not in the cinematic form we think of it as being It was a movie that had to do with pirates.

In my day, we watched Pirates, and that was good enough.

That was all we could afford. Of the Caribbean? Are you kidding me? We weren't rich. But now I'm trying to see if there really was a movie called Pirates, the movie. I'm just putting that in to see what it says.

The return on that is going to be tough because you're going to get a bunch of pirates.

Pirates, 1986 film. this is exactly with roman polanski's pirates starring walter matthow what a time to be alive i apparently uh there was they were i'm guessing he was directing this not in the united states um you know i don't think by this time probably polanski wasn't allowed in the country but yeah but um i we went to see this at the majestic bay theater we got in for free and because we got in for free we had extra money to purchase snacks which was unusual and i purchased a um some some sort of milk dud product presumably or popcorn or whatever but what i also got was a really big soda and i didn't for some reason probably rushing around probably excited to get in and see the previews did not put a lid on the really giant soda and i put it on the armrest at the majestic bay theater as the opening credits of pirates was playing and i just saw out of the corner of my eye this huge like super big gulp size cup starting to shimmy because the armrests were slightly angled back why you would do that i don't i'll never know why why make maybe maybe there's something ergonomic about that maybe we actually want our armrest to be a little bit sloped a little you you know, but anyway, by the time I realized what was going on, it was too late. And that entire giant thing of soda just dumped into my lap as the movie was starting. And it was a massive amount of soda. And I just had to sit there. I mean, I guess what I could have done is gotten up, tried to sort of dry off and then like move seats. But I don't know, I mean, 86, I would have been 10. I just didn't have the, I don't know. I just sat there, and what I learned that day, Andrew, is the smell of peeing your pants is not even as much urine as it is the smell of wet denim.

Oh, wet denim, yeah.

So for the rest of the day, I just smelled like I had had an accident. But anyway, I'm not here to talk about that. I'm here to thank Andrew C. Dunning of Hales Corner, Wisconsin. Hales, yeah.

Oh, wow. Yeah, that sounds like it. That is a place where hardy Americans live in Hales Corner. Absolutely.

Hales Corners. I'm sorry. I left off. It's multiple corners. Hale's corner.

oh yeah yeah did you say corner the first i believe i said corner yeah so i apologize andrew can i just mention one thing not you i'm apologizing to andrew dunning no i forgive

you i said you you my son you are forgiven um thank you younger listeners and i assume we have a bunch of younger listeners because oh yeah i started the show by talking about light bulbs and how complicated it is for i did have a moment of thinking at the beginning now this i enjoyed

that conversation but i did think this might be the oldest we've ever sounded yeah yeah and that's

saying something yeah yeah yeah yeah and yeah but i enjoyed it that's what i'm saying like

if what this if this is this is if this is where the show's evolving i'm fine with it because it makes it fun for me to do the show with you i had light bulb related questions you had light bulb

related answers yeah i had a light bulb breakthrough which is different than breaking a light ball but um our younger listeners who are like on you know hanging on every word we say are probably thinking why didn't luke just use the the cup holder in the movie theater why why was it resting on on the arm and it's it's a good reminder that we grew up in a world luke where movie theaters didn't automatically have cup holders in fact let me tell you a little tale my friend tony his dad doug in the mid 80s invented a cup holder that you could install his i kind of forget about this era of my life where i'd be going was he selling him in a booth next to the andy man

grills kind of like very entrepreneurial spirit there in that part of geauga county or wherever

you were medina county um jesus christ who am i working with here but he made these things and he tried to sell them to theaters and probably older theaters like that but it was also the 80s like we didn't have the big cushy recliner chairs they were like kind of standard movie theater chairs the way it should be frankly um and they you know you couldn't retrofit cup holders into them so he made these plastic things i think they were called they were called the drink thing it's all coming back to me now and it had two different sizes but he was trying to convince theaters and he sold it to some to screw it on the back of the seat in front of the person who's sitting

seats didn't recline also they were just like metal or round metal thing kind of metal or i

think sometimes maybe fake wood possibly um and you could you could like with a couple of screws just install it on the seat in front of where the customer is sitting and then it would fold down it would be almost flat not quite flush but essentially you know like flush with the seat but then once they sit down and they want to put their um put their cup down you would pull out the one of two rings depending on the size of the cup and the original design you would just slip your cup in there and gravity would sort of pinch it up against the seat if that makes sense it would sort of tilt and stay there, but then he made later generations of the drink thing, Luke, also had a third little thing that would pop out the bottom, the drink thing, too. He came up with that name as well. Like the Bedazzler, too. It had like a little thing that you could pull down to stabilize the drink even more. I totally forgot about this. Doug. What a great idea. Rest in peace.

God, Doug, why didn't you get your way out to Ballard? Yeah. In 1986, a young Luke Burbank could have really used that thing i would take thing one or thing two i'm gonna drink thing one

or thing two is there any if i remember that it was if i know this guy's first and last name and if i'm right about it being called the drink thing is there a chance i could find the patent for this because i found it for the andy man one time actually really yeah if you google andy man i think you'll find like an old black and white like photocopy that somebody scanned in as a pdf online because there's all kinds of like websites that keep track of patents i think andrew as if

our light bulb conversation didn't seal the deal i'm getting a call right now which i will not accept because it will distract us but i thought it was maybe the folks that are bringing out the appliances you know they work for a moving company that's been hired by home depot presumably but i'm looking at the um the caller id advanced gastro do you know who that is the gastroenterology office where i will be scheduling my colonoscopy oh nice good my friend i got light bulbs and colonoscopy yeah there it is don't let anyone tell you that this is not an absolute party around here oh yeah buddy luke i wish i could afford a subscription to the akron

beacon journal because on july 6 1992 on page 19 of the august publication um i only have this result in google uh i used to wonder why someone didn't invent some kind of holder for drinks and theaters said douglas cory i'm sorry doug cory of liverpool township in medina county then dot dot dot and then drink thing comes up later somewhere in there but the rest is behind

Send me the article. I have a special system for occasionally.

I thought you were going to say you have a... Subscription to the Akron Beacon Journal, but no I don't have that one you have a but um, you know what's interesting?

What's interesting is we need to move on but what I when I was in the Met in New York last weekend I was in the American You know there's obviously divided up into sort of different eras and and and parts of the the globe and everything I was in this the kind of American section and I was looking at some really interesting old art and it was from Liverpool, Ohio Which I thought was interesting. Yeah, I forget what the piece was but it was but it was like something that was very kind of like interesting and fancy and I was like And they were saying this is likely from liver But it was so old that they couldn't exactly nail down the exact Provenance of it, but they knew that it was from a range of years and it was from probably from Liverpool, Ohio And I was like wow, that's you guys had some I mean it wasn't just Samosky's pizza out there and the drink thing one and two and the Andy man. I mean, there was a high art happening in Liverpool.

I have a friend who works as a nurse in a hospital around here. And she texted me the other day and she said, Hey, what was the name of the area you grew up in in Ohio? And I told her, she was like, yeah, I got a patient here. He's a bit of a, a bit of an odd duck if I recall. But he's a, it was during the playoffs.

First of all, the fact that they brought a duck into the hospital. Is it a, is it a veterinary clinic? Vet clinic, actually, yeah, so I'm trying to protect this person. You kind of buried the lead there.

I'm protecting this person's identity as best I can. So this duck said, and then the other one. What a terrible duck. Joe's not getting younger. That was a duck. What happened to that duck? So that duck does need a doctor. But anyway, apparently this person was watching a Browns game. It might have been the playoff or the play-in game or something for the Browns. And somehow this guy, anyway, this guy was from Valley City, Ohio. and was rooting on the Browns. And so I told my friend, I'm like, well, tell him my name. Like, if he's around my age, is there a chance we went to school together? Tell him I went to Liverpool. And then she didn't respond.

Huh. That would have been probably put some wind in that guy's sails.

Yeah, maybe. Maybe he'd be alive today if she had just passed that along.

Honestly, I mean, really, really, Joe Flacco? Really, that's how you're going to go out? That's what you're going to do. Is it possible that Joe Flacco was a Manchurian candidate all along? has this been has this been investigated at all that would be amazing i mean that would be talk about like the ultimate troll move let me come out of retirement let me play phenomenally for like eight weeks and then let me just throw about like five picks or something right when i've won the hearts of of the of the cuyahoga valley or wait how are we saying that again i think i was

saying it wrong well i mean yeah let's see here the cuyahoga valley they would probably root for

the browns as well but but i mean cuyahoga aren't you wasn't isn't it don't you say

let's see oh oh oh oh the pronouncer not the word valley oh i didn't know we've got consensus on that i think we're trying to figure out the the county again um didn't i um but didn't what aren't we aren't we the people not from cuyahoga that's how like apparently people there say we have a listener who doesn't like it when we say cuyahoga i asked my dad he says cuyahoga oh i don't Okay, I'll go with them on that.

As long as we can still say feral cat. That's the main, that's the point of emphasis for me this week.

Exactly. Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

Now I know, I know, we didn't get to talk about Pitchfork, but we can talk about it tomorrow because I do think, I think it's an interesting topic for us because of, I can't speak for you, Andrew, but part of me is like, oh how sad and then part of me is like yeah but honestly i had my relationship with pitchfork has been very fraught over the years it's between desperately wanting their approval and desperately

saying i don't need their approval let's talk about it i'm priming the pump for tomorrow

is it primed are you feeling primed i'm feeling primed yeah because i i've been like kind of

exploring my um feelings on this as well okay good have you gotten any further into hacking into this article because i think i sort of got closer myself here by doing a little trickeration but now i'm looking for the quotes from doug corey i think i've downloaded an entire day's newspaper into a weird app and i'm not finding what i want no i've been well let me see here hold on let me

get to the uh uh have i gotten you know what it's given me just a scan of the whole thing well good for you because i have to say the akron beacon journal has successfully thwarted my safe cracking attempts now i would never ever ever tell someone that they should you know access paywalled content by going around the paywall because lord knows we wouldn't be here if people didn't want to pay for content but that being said in very very extreme circumstances like trying to find out what happened to tony's dad's invention Mm-hmm.

I do have a system that I've used, and it's pretty reliable, but not today. I think part of it for me, for my system, is that no one has tried to look at this page of the Akron Beacon Journal in many, many years. And so it's not populating the way that I normally would. But it sounds like you've actually managed to, you've gotten, you've cracked the code.

Let me explain what I'm looking at here, because I'm actually quite proud of myself for figuring this out. I mean, first light bulbs. Organizing your light bulbs. So what happened was, and I'll just give you my whole process. So what I had stumbled on. Carol, hold my phone.

You think that was sarcasm. It wasn't. I'm always into finding out how to hack into the Akron Beacon Drink.

So what I found by Googling my friend's dad's name and the drink thing, which is the name of his cup holder, an aftermarket cup holder for 1980s era movie theaters, I found this. You know, Google gave me like one sentence result, but the rest I had to pay for because it's just a scan of the actual front page of that section of the newspaper. And what I did was I saved it to Pocket, you know, the Pocket app where you can kind of save articles to read later. Sometimes you can get a workaround there. And then I've opened up my phone here and I've opened this link in Pocket. And what it is, is like sort of the it's it's all just one huge block of text that I think is the alt text describing what is on what would be like a scan of a newspaper. In other words, for the visually impaired, if you post a photo of an Apple, I do this every day on the show page. Like, let's say today we use a photo of a light bulb. I will describe that photo in the alt text for people who can't see the photo. Right. And I think this is a huge, long block of text that describes literally everything that is scanned on this front page of a newspaper. And by doing a search for his name in this huge block of text, I believe I have found the article in question. I just need to read this. There's no like formatting, bolding, but I think this is the headline. Cleveland drink holder inventor tastes success. It's called the drink thing. I have no idea how long this is going to go on Oh I'm here for it This is better than any email or voicemail I mean no offense listeners It could be the answer to the problem Of spilling sodas in theaters and stadiums Quote I used to wonder why someone didn't invent Some kind of holder for drinks in theaters Said Doug Corey of Liverpool Township in Medina County Over dinner I thought about it And sketched it out on a napkin The next day I made one out of plastic And it worked very well By the way Doug Corey was a jeweler So he was good with his hands. He had a workshop. Going over to Tony's house was just one of the most fascinating things to do because the workshop was in the house. I thought I might be on to something. Corey couldn't think of a better name to call his invention, so he settled for the drink thing. It is made of two concentric plastic circles that attach to the back of theater chairs. The circles hold drink containers and automatically adjust to hold small or big cups. When not in use, they slap back flat and out of the way. This is a better description than what I offered before. There's even a spot on the front of the device where companies can slip in a small advertisement. Corey, a jewelry maker. That's a hard word to say. Corey, a rural juror. A jeweler for rural juries. He invented the device six months ago. He and his associates are negotiating to sell it to Richfield Coliseum, Cleveland Stadium, and the Gateway Sports Complex under construction downtown. And it looks like now we're on to an article about geese.

Was there a time where you pulled up to Tony's house and he had a swimming pool shaped like a huge dollar bill sign and you realized the Corey family fortunes had significantly changed?

Doug did use I can say this now because, again, the shop is no longer in practice, but like they were a really quirky family. I loved going over there. I loved Doug so much. and um but he would like unless he was totally lying to us but i don't think he was he would like put gold in the fish tank because he is he'd like he was like well i don't need this right now and he thought it was kind of funny and so he'd put like real gold coins in the fish tank because he was like a jeweler anyway again i can't say that word very well um and it was just like it was like going oh it was like somewhere between going over to willie wonka's place and scrooge mcduck's place but not there was doubloons about exactly there were doubloons about he was just a

very very fun man to be you know you want to know a very strange coincidence because jeweler is a kind of a unique job peter williams see previous comments my kind of best friend growing up his dad randall williams was a jeweler really still is to this day and had worked at a um at a jewelry shop in Greenwood, by the way, right by

the crosswalk now is but for many years there was a jewelry shop there and he was you know you mean one coin dexters they closed oh are you i mean it's not a world of men no golly but anyway there was a there was a jewelry shop there for many years and he worked there and he you know you brought your if you wanted a ring made him he's an incredibly talented artist and and and still is but then he had in his he had a whole workbench in their basement because he also made a lot of of jewelry related to his practice as a adherent to a guy named meher baba they're called baba lovers and he had a thing called radiant heart jewelry and he would make all the and it was amazing because he would make these wax i mean he's an incredible sculptor and so you know like if he was going to make a ring that had the kind of like visage of this guy meher baba on it he would first make this big wax you know like mold for it that would involve essentially making like an amazing kind of three-dimensional like portrait of the guy and then somehow through that process you pour it and then it's you to shrink it down and you i don't i don't know i don't know what would go on but there was always these like incredible pieces of art around and and like jewelry stuff i'm very glad that in my you know my misbegotten youthful ways uh which involved all kinds of shenanigans i never thought i never thought to take anything off of that like you jewelry i would have i was already low-key in enough trouble for shattering one of peter's teeth i feel like stealing from radiant heart jewelry would have been a bridge too far but what are the chances that you and i both grew up with good friends whose dads were in the not the selling of jewelry the making of jewelry which is a weirdly specific skill set yeah and

this was out in valley city too and i don't want you know i've probably already given away too much

personal information but again i've heard there's gold buried at the old cory house

Doug passed away I think a few years ago now and I saw just recently um or like I'm gonna say in the past year or so um his wife uh put the you know the the house that I knew the Cory's lived in up for sale so I was looking at a bunch of pictures of it on um you know one of the realty sites Zillow or whatever and boy it really was an it was an emotional journey for me because you You know, like probably I'm guessing Tony's house in Valley City is where I spent the most time outside of my own house. And again, it was like it was like a wonderland, like inside. Like they had a they had a pinball machine that was sometimes working. And it was just like you'd walk in. Everything was sort of a menagerie and it was just such an exciting place to be. And then they had like a like a pretty large pond in the backyard with like a swimming pool. He had a quarter pipe pushed up against the garage, which I I couldn't really enjoy much because I could never get to the top of it the way the other kids could. They could just run to the top of the quarter pipe and then throw themselves up on top and then sit with their legs dangling over. But I could never accomplish that. So that's not a great memory. But like he worked on cars. He had this like he had his his workshop for cars. He had his workshop for jewelry. It was just like such an exciting place to be. They had a koi pond and I was just like flipping through these photos and just like it was definitely like definitely the end of I mean, the era ended a long time ago, but it was almost like some weird closure by Zillow.

That's their new premium service.

Yeah, right.

It was they'll let you go through and tour a house that means your childhood is officially over.

That's right. And it wasn't as great as you thought.

um all right uh let's go ahead and wrap things up uh for for here today because you and i have some special recording to do later which yeah maybe we should we should maybe talk about that tomorrow yeah let's do that in addition to the uh the pitchfork conversation we can talk about we're we're having us we're having an appearance we're making an appearance we're kind of big time

guests is the word you're looking for right we're big time guests who need to do if you're talking about me some big time research in the next hour no no the last the last email said do no research like you don't the host for real the host walks us through everything like just be present like we don't have to know we'll explain what we're talking about we're we're guesting on a podcast today and um but we don't have to know shit oh good shoot well that really frees up well then let's do another hour of tbtl sounds good i got some more i also really need to start reading

those emails yeah have you signed all the releases is the real question i did sign all the releases

I honestly don't – this is a real question I have, but I didn't want to ask it because it already seems overly complicated and too many cooks in the kitchen. But I'm unclear as to whether or not our cameras need to be on for this and if there's going to be a video component. Is this something that you've been wondering yourself? I don't know.

When it comes to the future, you can never have too many cooks. We're going to be on the Too Many Cooks podcast. I don't know the answer to that, Andrew. I'm going to be in full hair and makeup, though. Okay, good. But I am right now because that's the level of professionalism I bring to this program. Nice. All right. Thanks, everyone. We will be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio for you. In the meantime,

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