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We tear all the wood out. We want to get rid of anything that seems natural, authentic.

Get rid of the espresso machine, get rid of that, that all goes.

Anything rustic is gone. Anything authentic, anything organic, anything permanent. Also, this is a vape store. Yeah. So we want a carpeting that's going to absorb, and I don't mean mask, but literally just absorb the odor so that when people come in here, they're just overwhelmed.

OK, you want it to be pungent. Jaundice. Sickly, vomitous. A piece of vile. You want it to smell like old bubble gum.

Yeah, have you ever huffed an air wick? The lighting is too warm in here.

This is too, I'm feeling too good about this. You know, I want to see my own zits. Like an old thrift store or something, maybe. No, that's even too descriptive.

That's too kitschy.

It should just be like part of an airport that you ignore.

Think of hanging out inside a vending machine.

A cell phone store.

Batteries Plus.

Make sure your bathroom really has got a toilet that's way too high and kind of big. Also, two plungers. Two plungers says it all. TBTL! One more bodily. Functions in the news this morning, the next time you pass gas, make sure no police are around.

That's science. These are facts. I'm just, I'm kind of flabbergasted when you say things like that. It's weird. Thank you. Not a compliment. So maybe this isn't exactly the most polished radio broadcast you've ever heard.

No, you're, you're going to tell a story. I don't believe that I can bear to listen to another one of your stories right now.

Well, all right. Hello. Good morning and welcome everyone to a Wednesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host coming to you from, let's see, the, how do we describe this? The shores of El Pacifico and the end of runway three of Los Angeles International Airport. California got sunshine. Where it is just an absolutely beautiful Wednesday. There was atmospheric rivers rivering, but that's all seemed to have subsided. And now I'm just looking out the window here from the hotel, and it's just absolutely gorgeous. And we have an absolutely spectacular Wednesday edition of the program for you. By the way, it's episode 4146 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Much to discuss with all of you. Well, really with my friend Andrew, but you're allowed to listen in here on this Wednesday, including an update on my situation back home at the Madrona Hill studio where I sort of cobbled together some kind of tent system and also spray-painted my address on a piece of wood to try to make sure that the delivery of Ikea kitchen stuff went okay. Can you verify? Can you give me some 411? I've been obsessively checking my Nest camera to see what's going on with that. We have a bit of an update on that. And also, as I watch these airplanes take off and land from LAX, I've got Sky Jinx on my mind. Sky Jinx. Specifically, Air Canada's recent pickle they found themselves in when one of their chatbots promised something to someone that I guess maybe it should not have promised. So we'll, you know. Does this sound like a musical robot? This is not going to be one of those episodes of TBTL where we praise the machine. This is going to be one of those episodes where we point out the absurdity of modern life and chatbots. So get ready for that. And get ready for this guy, the longest running co-bro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships.

Hey, where's the freaking...

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now via Riverside.

Hey, buddy. A little advertisement for our Riverside software that we're rolling out today.

Well, this is actually, in all seriousness, this is sort of a big deal for us. Not for the listeners, but for you and I, because for the first time in a long time, we are not in the same room, but we are looking at each other. Like, you're seeing me, warts and all. By the way, how's your wart doing?

There it is. You can see it there. It's still got a medicine. Also, I'm going to put on my ceremonial. This is the other thing I meant to ask you about the other day. as we were starting the show and you were here in studio with me, I put on a little fragrance oil on my wrist, and I meant to ask you if it was overwhelming.

That conversation that we had has actually impacted my real-life behavior.

Wait, the wart conversation or the oil one? I didn't know we had that conversation.

The cologne conversation. You asked me if I was wearing a new cologne on Friday.

I think I even wrote somewhere that you smelled real good, too.

But you said, are you wearing a different cologne? And I said, no, it's the same one that I always wear, But what I've been doing is one one fewer.

spritz of the cologne because if you even had a thought about the cologne that makes me worried

that it was way too much cologne no no no no no you're taking the wrong takeaway my god this is important stop the show if you can't no no you smelled nice like that's that's the thing i my only concern is are we in the kind of relationship where we can tell the other person that they smell

nice when they smell particularly nice okay so that wasn't a because sometimes i mean imagine that you you know you working with someone you get in an elevator with someone and they have a tremendous amount of either perfume or cologne on and it you feel like you need to comment on it but you don't want to say it smells good oh you smell interesting right exactly i was i i was worried because you know what there's been a mission creep on my cologne i think i'm going nose blind which is i know something that you you worry about a lot and so it used to be i would

spritz it in the air and then i would walk through it right exactly like network news i think is it a mini driver who does that and i think i'm getting everything wrong about that is mini driver in

network news don't let me derail you go ahead um and so it started with spritz it in the air walk through it and then it was okay you know it spritz it towards your physical body and then it was just go ahead and lay lay a big wet one right on yourself have you and dunked yourself into it yet like a baptismal yes i even any hotel i'm in right now i'm at the hotel june in los angeles california i have a special request that they have a hook system that lowers me into a vat of the cologne and then draws me back but it was it went from spritz it in the air walk through it to spritz it in my general direction to spritz it right on my own body to wait for it two spritzes right on my own body and that's that's a lot that's a lot i actually have a follow-up question

about a application of cologne because i'm wondering if i do it wrong but this is i i just want to make it clear here i have made the mistake that i just made by referring to uh i thought we

were letting that go no no no i knew that i knew that it was unlikely that that was factual based

i want you to know i've made this mistake a hundred times in my life and i will make it a hundred more my brain is forever broken on it it's not mini driver it's holly hunter i cannot keep those two names in my head at the same time for some reason and it's not network news it's broadcast news everything else i said was right though no definitely she does i believe spritz some perfume and then walk right through it but when you're applying cologne or perfume are you spraying it onto your clothes or onto your skin because i always thought it was under the clothes but then genevieve said no no you put that right in the skin there's a chemical reaction

i do both this is why there are two spritzes okay so one spritzes we get out of the shower

and we i'm talking about bubbles thanks for suddenly making this plural that's great

we get out of the shower and we do a spritz on the old bod the old body and then later when we get the clothes on we hit whatever the shirt in this case i'm wearing a a white collared shirt from taylor stitch because i'm about to go do a television recording and then we hit the clothing and this is who could have known this is where today's program is going to go andrew It's because I like when I put on Now this shirt that I'm wearing right now I will launder this before I wear it again But I have sweaters that I wear You've probably seen me There's a black sweater that I wear almost constantly I have four of them They are from Everlane, they are cashmere They retail for $100 And it's the greatest $100 you'll ever spend I like it when I put one of those sweaters on And it smells like my own cologne Which is a bizarre thing to say Am I hitting on myself? Why do I like the smell of my... Well, it depends what follows, I guess. Definitely fondling some sweaters. No, it's weird that I enjoy putting on a garment of my own that smells like my own cologne. It feels like narcissism at its highest possible expression.

Do you ever take your sweater and set it next to yourself on the couch while watching TV? I sleep with it. and then sort of stretch and sort of accidentally put your arm around the shoulders of the sweater and maybe snuggle up.

But then realize my hand is very clammy, and then I pull it back.

Yes, yeah. No, I don't think that's weird at all. Like, I was going to say I'm really into scent, but I don't think that's true because I don't know much about it. I just mean that in the past, I don't know, 10 years of my life, I've realized that I react strongly to scent, and usually in good ways, right, like whether it's a nostalgic smell or, like I said, I have this little bit of it's I think it's Egyptian musk scented oil. I never wear it out in public. I'm not wearing it.

for others it's like when i do the show i put it on my wrist and i smell it and it just sort of calms me a little bit your pulse points at my pulse points and like i just sort of realized at some point like oh yeah like from maybe it's from making candles or whatever that the the scent and if it's a lingering scent there's something special about that as well i have certain shirts that have a little cologne or maybe some of that oil on it and again it's a tonight shirt i put it on i'm not going out i'm not doing it for anybody other than that little that little um sense of i I don't know, joy or upliftiness is what they call it when you get a little snatch of that scent.

Well, your dad wears cologne, and I know this because maybe the one time that I met Bob Walsh in person, maybe we've met a couple times, he came into the studio at Cairo, and he smelled great.

Yeah, too much, though, would you say? Don't worry, he won't hear this.

I asked him if he was wearing a new cologne.

Did you ask him that?

Which is coded for too much.

You've never met him before.

Oh, is that a new cologne, Bob Walsh? Hey, Bob, are you wearing a different cologne? Nice to meet you. No, it was great. I think that I'm actually, I'm maybe in the minority in that I don't mind too much cologne. In fact, Becca and I went into a restaurant on Sunday. We had taken, oh man, the two of us, we make quite the team when it comes to trying to find places. we set out on a walk on Sunday to go to a restaurant that's maybe a mile and a half from her house four miles into the walk as I kept checking google maps and it was getting further away we realized we had absolutely taken the wrong the wrong uh you know what do you want to call direction the wrong we had we'd made a left and we should have made a right we ended up walking i think nine miles and never getting to the restaurant oh my goodness and if you had showed

up at that point you might have been a little bit uh you know a little clammy from the walk

well sure all of that and so when we finally got back to her place there's basically i don't want to give away the location although it would be weird if someone decided to show up at my girlfriend's house but um there's two restaurants well there's three restaurants in her immediate neighborhood one is a subway sandwich shop uh one is a vietnamese place called bamboozha that we get food from a lot and one is a Mediterranean place that we've never been to and we thought well let's go check out the Mediterranean place um and uh and see what's going on there we've never been there could be delicious it was hopping it was I mean it was like a 30 minute wait and the place was absolutely packed which made me really want to go back there you know what I mean like I was like okay I've never been here but now I'm obsessed with with revisiting this place we ended up not going there. But when we left, she was like, wow, did you smell the cologne on the person who was taking, you know, who was sort of going to potentially put us on the waiting list? And I said, no, I did not at all. She was like, yeah, it was very pungent. And I was like, oh, I didn't even notice it. I think that I am, A, I think I noticed smells less than other people. And B, I think I like the smell of cologne and perfume. You know, people will be like, oh, somebody at my work wears a perfume and i don't like it i don't think i've ever had that experience i've gotten into every elevator you can imagine with somebody who has a ton of cologne on or perfume or worked with people i've never found it unpleasant and this is why i'm worried i think i have a high high tolerance for applying smells you're in a point in your relationship with becca

i assume that she can be honest with you about things and i assume has been honest with you about things and i assume has been too honest with you about some things um if you ask her am i wearing too much cologne do you trust her a to give you the the hard truth and b to not be nose

blind herself at this point she is not nose blind she is she has like 220 nose vision she smells at 200 feet what other people smell at 20 feet so she could be a pilot absolutely yeah except for the drinking yeah right of course i recently watched the denzel washington flight uh movie flight yeah it's really good actually yeah i've seen i've seen if i haven't seen the whole thing

i've seen big chunks of it and boy it is i mean it is really compelling and depressing as hell

man and when well it raises a strong question which is if you are a drunk but if you are better at your job while drunk yeah do we care as a society right it depends because he flies a plane upside down that no one else could do. Don Cheadle tells him we ran it through the simulator and no

one else could do it. Right, exactly. I guess it does to drunk firefighters. I can only do this

if I'm drunk. Maybe a different line will work. Becca is very, very sensitive to smell and also very sensitive to my feelings. Therefore, I have no idea where I am as it relates to smells because this is why we've had such a happy time together.

because she is extremely careful with how she presents things to me so as not to hurt my fragile ego.

So I was kind of wrong when I was spoofing and saying that she probably is at a point where she's giving you really hard truths.

My hope is we'll never get to that point. Four years in, I hope we never arrive at the point. I'm brutally honest with her. I have notes every day when we hang out about things she can improve.

Yeah, no, that's pretty smart. You just leave it like on a notepad on the kitchen table like my dad,

leave me list of chores to do yeah pretty much um i just kind of uh i call it the honey don't list yeah honey don't do that anymore yes honey don't wear that sweater it precisely um but uh no i i don't know if she would what i would what i will say is that i think if she didn't like the smell of my cologne if there was too much of it if she were to break that news to me i feel like she would do it in the most diplomatic of ways yeah and she has not broken it to me in even the most diplomatic of ways so it makes me and again you're you're shooting me straight right like it wasn't it was not overwhelming when i came down in that room with you on friday here's the thing

if i was offended by something or if i smelled or saw or heard something i don't like from a friend i don't think i would bring it up at all like i think i would just be silent on the on the topic

notice i didn't mention how you looked no no i oh i noticed it i thought about on the entire flight

down here to los angeles yeah exactly my silence was deafening on that topic how is your package

going oh my goodness andrew let me do this if i can um we have a lot going on oh i started by saying this is a kind of a big thing for us this riverside deal we're using a piece of software to talk to each other because it is a very different experience that i can see you for the last how many years I mean maybe 10 years would you say is that maybe it's eight years for for the last however long we've been doing the show together other than when we're in the same room and a couple of little here and there's where we were using some kind of video link technology you and I never actually see each other when we're doing this and right now I'm seeing you you are seeing me it is a totally different experience in term for me anyway of the you

know of the doing this show with you it is and as far as the audience is concerned like i don't know exactly um where this is going to go like today right now we're using this system we can see each other we're recording but we're also just recording in our usual old school audio way i don't plan on using any of this video because for starters i look like i mean i i'm you don't i look i look fine but no i mean i look like are you wearing a new face i am i uh i look like a troll and i got to figure out the lighting before this any kind of this video goes public uh as we sort of figure this out as we go forward it would be nice to grab little bits of the podcast and put them up

on social media yeah we currently have a video that's going viral apparently i know that's so

what the holy heck we haven't even talked about that yeah that started like last week literally john sklaroff took a video of you and by the way then there was a little write-up about it today and they're giving me all kinds of credit for my sleeping out did you there was a write-up of it Oh, you didn't see the screen cap I sent you and John?

I didn't have a chance yet.

They referred to me as Andrew Boom Boom Walsh in a write-up. What? Who wrote it up? So here, let's just back up really quickly, let people know what we're talking about. So you had done a little digging after a Reba McIntyre post went viral of her wearing a fur coat and a pair of boots, and it said, boots with the fur. And then everybody was like, wait a second. The Little John song, Lo, was it always boots and a fur coat, or was it furry boots? You did a little bit of, what does it say, shoe leather journalism. You found the video link.

I believe what I said was move over, ProPublica.

That's right. Move over, PolitiFact. And so you're like, well, look, here's a still image from the music video. And they are furry boots, the mystery over. And John turned that into a little video reel on Instagram. And somehow it got just got swept up into, you know, whatever things get swept up into when they go viral.

And it got shared. It's got a couple hundred thousand views now or something.

Yeah, exactly. I think maybe. Am I exaggerating to say like four hundred thousand views? Like a lot. Like it's like viral, viral. And it's funny. And then today in some like small music blog out of Portland or something, somebody I checked out the byline to make sure it wasn't an A.I. chat bot who wrote this article, but it is a real person who also teaches drum lessons on the side, wrote an article on his Instagram. page uh wrote an article about your little like your little like investigative journalism into boots with the fur and also gave me too much credit like kind of saying luke burbank and andrew boom boom walsh got to the bottom of the mystery i'm like i didn't do much credit i love that we're using your proper name i'm assuming that comes from somebody

who wants to write up this little viral video and then goes to whatever like marketing materials

we have out there or on our website they are also a tens of listener the name didn't didn't look

familiar to me that was the first thing that i was thinking of that i thought of too i don't think so it could be that would be awesome like get at us or maybe they're a new listener now that they've written this up but i thought it was so funny because i was like to call me boom boom i bet you like that's an old joke that we stole from wmms and i'll bet you we use that somewhere on our website and this journalist just like kind of grabbed that either way i like it and it's not

copyright thanks good looking out i'm i'm excited to uh to dig into that yeah into the article yeah into the fact that we're finally getting some earned media yeah well that's to john's credit

so anyway as you mentioned uh maybe instead of representing ourselves with pictures of our cats on social media in the future we can use video from riverside but i'm with you by the way better lighting or something down here though because i do look like a goddamn troll and i

don't like i need to get better this lighting here at the hotel june is actually working for me it's very bright yeah but at my at the madrona hill studio i need to also figure that out if we're going to start sort of like excerpting bits of video content because i thought that it was going to be great for me to be standing behind or to have a huge window in front of me from a lighting standpoint but it's actually very unflattering i've learned oh really well i there's something oh well whatever i don't know why it is but i i there's a bunch that a bunch of things i need to figure out about the the way that i look on video when when i'm in that particular spot which is where i do most of the you know whether it's this or livewire or what have you i need to if we're if this is going to be more of an outward facing thing i need to like i need to get my shit figured out i need to get a proper ring light i need to get a makeup team a glam

squad right a makeup chair you know it's funny that you say that because i think i know the video setup you're talking about because we've done various like hey dummies or whatever's together we can review we can review and it always looks good again i'm always jealous i feel very i can't get the lighting right in this basement studio of mine um and i'm always jealous of your lighting but the thing is like i'm just looking at the lighting and i think oh you look good it's bright it pops but the lighting is probably so good that you're seeing imperfections on your actual face or something that I'm I'm not looking for that stuff I think you're we are people who are drawn to look for our imperfections when we see our faces on screen for what it's worth and I know it's not worth much because you're you're going to see what you're going to see but it always just looks good to me and I'm like oh man that looks like such a good airy what you know that lighting is important to me it looks like a good airy well-lit place and it looks like you're

talking to your friend Gollum here in my basement well I don't think you look that way and just so you know that the self-loathing runs deep i'm considering going on low dose accutane which is that is a it's a an acne medicine for teenagers oh man well let me say this about the lighting

i don't know that adding more if if this concern that you have is that the lighting is is picking

up too much or what have you probably imperfections in my skin do you think i would look better if my face was sloughing off, which is what Accutane does. But what's underneath it, once it sloughs off, is a beautiful, pristine skin. Have you thought about just using compound W all over

your face? Because that's what I'm doing to my thumb right now. How is that going, by the way? It's smaller, and that's still medicine that you see on there, but it's not very flattering to look at. But I was going to say, maybe what you need is like a diffuser, like blind, like a very, very sheer thing that comes down in front of the window yeah well it's it's actually something that

i have learned uh over the years of working uh i guess i would say in television i guess that is the thing that i'm it feels like i just started doing tv stories maybe last week but it's been many years so i guess i can say working in television is it's actually like like sunlight is not your friend like i always thought oh it's beautiful it's a beautiful sunny day this will be great for the camera guy and they're always like no this is terrible too harsh that too harsh they would love it to just be gray yeah like i was about to say that yeah a gray day is is is their friend in fact when we were chatting with wayne newton in this like revolving uh it's called the high roller uh like uh whatever thing a ferris wheel deal it was driving scott our camera guy completely insane because and it was so nice out it was like oh it's a beautiful sunny day i'm loving it so um yeah what i've what i've learned is that the sunshine is not great and what i have constructed at the madrona hill studio is a thing that gets a lot of sunlight but it's actually not very flattering and what i you're you're right i need to have some kind of a scrim that i can pull down and kind of just like gauze out the light a little bit yeah yeah i think that that'll work

well, although, like I say, I think it's great.

I'm jealous of it. I don't know what I'm going to do. I can't bring sunshine into the studio, and I don't want to put ring lights all the hell over the place. But I got to figure something out before we go viral again. Are you going to say anything interesting?

Thank God we're still using the cat photos for now.

So what is it? Every 15 years. So in 15 years, the next time we go viral in 15 years, because that's the cycle we're on, I'll have some better lighting on here.

have we ever is this would this be the most viral thing we've ever been a part of uh from tbtl

yeah i mean certainly by the definition of having a social media post that gets swept up into you know some sort of algorithm with a lot of shares and likes i mean we have been written up in small little in small little blogs before like this one in portland i mentioned earlier like that's sort of not new but for actually like content that you said on the show that like got people interested in clicking on it and commenting um you know somebody made another comment and i i'm sort of just getting glancing updates on this thing because every now and then i'll just look down on my phone it's like you have a million new comments on this um too beautiful to live video and one that i happened to see one that slipped through the cracks was don't they also say Reeboks with the straps is that a line in that song as well so nobody's confusing that nobody's thinking oh she's wearing Reeboks and has a strap across her chest right like it's it's implied that the with the now we're just we're just reopening this investigation we're trying to go viral again yeah what if that's it it's not even like it's not even getting to the truth of pop

songs it's only this song over and this might work honestly this might we may we may our viral load may actually raise from this particular situation that's about to happen because once again we are going to point out some of the potential hypocrisy of this song does she have on boots with the fur or does she have on Reeboks with the strap and I think the Reeboks with the strap are Reeboks that have a little strap that would go over the sort of upper part of the Reebok

So it's not a Velcro shoe situation. It's a strap that covers the laces?

I think it's a strap that just goes on the lower ankle situation. So it was like a boot, like a Reebok that has laces, but then also has two. If I remember from my high school days, there was the Reebok with the strap, which was laced, and then it was a high top, and then the high top part of it had a couple of little Velcro straps. I can totally picture it. Is she wearing boots? One foot is a boot with the fur and the other foot is a Reebok with the strap.

She sounds sexy.

Honestly, I feel like we may need to seek mental health options for this person.

The lampshade on the head. Everybody was shaking their head.

Apple bottom jeans. She is isolating.

Let's look out for our sister.

I am you know I I would say it's a composite you know maybe the song is about various hotties in

the club I see so just it's not a one it's not one person who who Flo Rida is writing about it's the idea of a person and that person could have apple bottom jeans with the boots with the fur they could also have the Reebok with the strap and is that person mini driver is like

the question like that famously from network exactly all right uh we you know what we have

some dazzling donors to thank so i think we should probably get to that and then uh we have some sky jinx and also i would like to tell you about my delivery situation and a joke that i am really having to stifle with the person who i'm going to be talking to later today for this television piece who i actually spoke with yesterday the um the director of such films as the last samurai and legends of the fall one ed zwick and there's a thing that i've been suppressing saying to him that i don't know if i can suppress it today anyway uh so let's do that after we thank some donors if you are looking for something to augment your tbtl listening with i cannot recommend the sporkful highly enough you know about this show right produced by friend of the show and friend of me dan pashman they like to say that is a show for eaters not for foodies you don't have to know a lot about food you just have to enjoy the experience of putting food in your mouth and chomping down on it and swallowing it um i'm very jealous of this other thing that dan did a while ago he invented a new kind of pasta it's called cascatelli i've bought it in the store and then made stuff with it it's

amazing, it's delicious, it's toothsome it's all the things that Dan was trying to set out to do when he invented his own pasta they talk about all kinds of interesting stuff on the Sporkful like why is the shallot super special is there such a thing as halal pork what kind of fast food should you eat on vacation and stuff like that we love Dan you're going to love the Sporkful, get it wherever you get your podcasts Hey, let's thank those dazzling donors who are dazzling us with their donation of dough. This is an amazing thing that happens when you go viral, Andrew. People decide they want to donate a significant portion of money from their bank account to your podcast month in and month out. But it's only because we just went viral.

These folks knew we were going to go viral, and that's the foresight that our listeners have, and it's amazing.

They bought low.

Yeah, exactly. Way low.

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That's right. We met Farron on our little road trip a few years back.

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It's like we're the old country buffet Of podcasts We're just going to give you so much of it

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Prawns you've ever had? Doubtful Is it the most prawns you've ever had? Yes The value I get for money Especially the fun content to talk about With my clients Without you I wouldn't know what sport ball Season it is or what the names of songs I probably have never heard are i can fully pull off coming across not like a person who doesn't take in pop culture to someone who can say words other people relate to highly valuable product you have here i would love some more tens as clients oh right uh farron is a um do we say a stylist i think yeah i said to you

before the show fancy barber but i don't think that's the proper nomenclature dude no no no it's

It's way above Fancy Barber. Farron is a, I mean, again, the irony that Farron's last name is Shear, which is also the tool that Farron uses to ply her trade. Be like if your name was Andrew Microphone.

Which I'm working on the paperwork to make that happen.

Farron is a stylist down there in San Diego and an amazing one at that. I mean, I don't, is it okay if I, we generally don't get into describing folks kind of, you know, body style look etc but I'm just going to tell you I've met Farron in real life and we all should

be so lucky as to look like Farron that's right and if you're in the San Diego area you can

that's right it's a real sort of like proof of concept when you meet Farron you're like I want this person to make me look more like this person in fact it bothers me now that I think about

it that Farron is just she's giving everybody a style that looks like her she's creating many Farron's so that all of Southern California will, everybody will

be Farron. I see it even here in Los

Angeles. Right. It's spreading. It's making

its way north. Farron says, I would love some more 10s as clients so I can practice my cultural references on a forgiving and kind audience. Find me on Slack so I can tell you where to find me in person. And then there's a P.S. Bubbles and Bingo thanks to Bubbles and Bingo for really leveling up the social media content. It's a delight. Also, thanks, Andrew and Luke, for steering this beloved ship. Also, extra thanks to Luke for recommending Tytom after I accosted you in the hotel lobby. Oh, yeah, we did have that conversation, Farron. I'm glad that you liked it. Tytom, did you go to Tytom at all, Andrew?

That is interesting. I was this close. You can't see this. Luke can see this. I was this close. I'm holding my finger and thumb very close together to walking to Tytom yesterday because I was passing it, and it wasn't super crowded. It looked like there were actually open seats. But I ended up going next door to get some Vietnamese food But I haven't been there forever But that place is legendary I've been there, it's great

It is, and I like that Farron liked it The, let's see A++ lunch spot Would recommend So Farron, supporting TBTL Throwing a shout out to Ty Tom And just being a generally awesome person Thank you Farron, appreciate you Maestro Oh look at this It's our friend Nick Marchand

Nick

Out there in Bothell, Washington Washington

You okay?

I'm stifling the impulse to make our typical Bothell, Washington joke.

For a day or for a lifetime? Yeah, that one.

Yeah. I stifled it, you did not.

I did not. I have a voice that I'll play for you next week that is related to that, in fact.

Nick says, hi, friends. Thanks for all you do. It brings me joy when I know I've got more of that sweet, sweet content from the boys waiting in my podcatcher. Nick, the boys are back in town, and they're podcasting too hard. Too much and too hard. As a request, could you make a mashup of the jalapeno drop and the Walsh Helm scream with the yeah from scream replacing the end of jalapeno? I've wanted to do that myself, but then I remembered I have no audio skills. Have you had a chance to actually try to make Nick's dreams come true?

So taking Shep Smith saying jalapeno and then replacing the yeah with my little scream, my Walsh Helm scream. I don't think that's possible. jalapeno that and hey hermano are my two favorite mashup drops yeah

nick that was a great suggestion jalapeno along with the money you have done and you've you've you have provided an invaluable service to the program which is helping us develop my new favorite drop i'd i'd never heard those things together in my mind but that works really well now i want to

make one thing very clear this is great jalapeno but the money is better thank you also one yeah oh yeah go ahead luke you i was gonna say one uh one other little extra

lanyop of shouting out goes to wade mullins who's in lexington kentucky and uh wade is a daily donor and we somehow, Wade slipped through the cracks of our very, very rigorous system of keeping track of the daily donors. Heads will roll. Yes. This is going to come as some pretty bad news for John.

Oh, I was thinking of myself, but that's better. No, that's good. Go with that.

Yeah, no, definitely. I'd throw him under whatever bus is coming out of Lexington. So thank you, Wade. Appreciate you. Thanks to all of our donors. hello and welcome to top story well andrew we have so much to talk about in so little time because i'm on my way to chat with ed zwick how do you oh this is the thing that i keep stifling saying to him i keep wanting to ask him if he's down with the zwickness i don't even really get

is it down with the sickness is that the expression i don't that's it i think i've heard you got that

But I don't know the what is the origin of that or in what context is that like that down with the sickness isn't is that like a limp biscuit song or some kind of I feel like the is it a what's the what's the other ones that you know rage against the machine.

When you said that I assumed it was some sort of like guttural lyric being screamed.

But I wasn't I wasn't 100% sure song by Joni Mitchell. You didn't think it was that classic Joni Mitchell song, Down With The Sickness?

I'm looking it up. It's a Holly Hunter reference, apparently.

It looks like it might be by a band named Disturbed. Oh, sure, sure, sure. That was a side project that Joni Mitchell did. Yeah, definitely. No, it made Becca laugh, and so it's been living in my mind that I want to say to him, hey, are you down with his weakness? But he's very game, by the way. We chatted yesterday at length And he was What I realized in talking to him Was first of all he's a very nice person And I think I could Have been a film director and I really missed The boat on that I mean this is a much larger Conversation but when I'm hanging out With a Hollywood big shot and I'm Looking at all these props That from various films that he's directed Or produced that he has in his office And I'm kind of seeing how he is in the world I'm thinking man I think I could have done that and i i you know i'm very happy to be podcasting with you andrew i want you to know that this is this is also a good outcome for me but it stirred something in me that had really kind of gone dormant for a long time i mean i really consider myself i considered myself for many years a film director who

had just never directed a film and was doing radio while I was getting my film director career off

the ground like when you were a young person in college that was what you were before you got into radio your passion was the idea of making films am I right about that yes precisely and he said

something yesterday when we were chatting that was very interesting to me and if you know you and I will talk about movies sometimes movies particularly from like the 90s and 2000s and I'll often say I think I saw that in a theater and like it was amazing to me the the sort of breadth of movies that I like it has to be the most talked about Wes Anderson film of all time to get me into a movie theater at this point like and I used to just see movies I didn't even care about in a theater you know I mean like or movies that seemed out of my areas of interest and I would go see them in the theater and when i again in the 90s and 2000 when i think about a lot of movies i'm like oh yeah i remember being in a movie theater watching that like i got up one morning was like you know what i want to see as a 17 year old schindler's list let me go watch that in a theater and now if you know there was a prestige film about the holocaust that came out it would be unlikely i would go to a movie theater to see it and what ed zook was saying yesterday was seeing a movie used to be such a social thing because and also such the level of concentration that you had when you went and saw a movie in a theater was really different than what we experience now when we watch it at home you know we stream it we may have our phone out we may leave the room come back it used to be a thing where you went into kind of a dark room you stared at a screen you probably had some friends with you or maybe your partner and then you spent the rest of the day talking about the thing you just saw it was and and he was smart enough to not he said i don't want to be that old guy who's kind of being like it used to be better like that's not even his point it just was a different way of experiencing that kind of stuff how old is he

when you were making the zwickness joke i was curious you said that he can hang but is he like our age is i i'm what and can you remind me the movies that you said he directed this is a blind

spot for me completely he uh he won an oscar for shakespeare and love which he produced actually this interesting story about that which is basically he uh he produced the entire film he got the the great british writer tom stoppard to write the script and then harvey weinstein noted good guy stole the project from him not much i think i can see him from here by the way is he an lax jail i can see the lax jail from here by the way you know they have a jail associated with los angeles international airport that makes sense have you been in it not yet but you know dare to dream yeah um but uh i do jog by it in my little loop i like to do down here in um west chester and i always think there but for the grace of them over serving me on the plane would go i uh but uh so anyway he did um he was instrumental in the movie shakespeare in love he directed The Last Samurai he directed Blood Diamond he directed Legends of the Fall

oh yeah you mentioned that at the top I think or at some point

and many other love and other drugs he's directed a lot of films and a lot of films that have done very well at the box office and it's just an all around kind of likable guy and listen I don't know anything about aperture I don't know anything about depth of field I don't know anything about the technical side of directing but in meeting this guy and watching him kind of operate within the context of like our crew and me and his assistant and other people I was like I think to some degree being a good film director is just being a good hang and I was I'm an okay hang I could have done that maybe I don't know it was a it was an interesting experience because I've you know for reasons that I think doctors describe as reality I have put away the idea of ever being a film director at 47 like I don't think this is something I'm going to get into at this point so I'd completely kind of put it to the side of my brain but being there I was like oh man that was a different that was a sliding doors to jingle all

the way kind of thing that I could have done which you're still working on as a spec script based on the Kimmy Schmidt I slipped it to him yeah if you're asking did I slip Ed Zwick my

spec script for sliding doors to jingle all the door yes I did it's interesting that you say like

being a director is a good hang this is obvious to say but i mean it really depends on your directorial style too right like obviously we hear about the the um overbearing male directors especially from a certain era who practically torture their actors you know like um uh your kubricks your kubricks is the one i'm thinking of and of course um why alfred hitchcock uh-huh

why why did i stumbled on alfred you know that i used to do an alfred right it's not albert you You know, I used to do an Alfred. hitchcock impression when i was a kid uh do you have it in your quiver now it was just two words

it was just him saying good evening which is how he used to start good evening that was my

that's pretty good i'm working on the profile myself it's just more physical yeah it's going

really well you'd be proud oh anyway uh okay so uh that's uh that's what's going on i am down with his weakness um the other thing uh that i want to tell you about was my did you get my uh

yeah i did i was gonna say i was how do you feel about that i don't i wasn't sure if we have time to get into this now because i really want to talk about it are you can give us a teaser for tomorrow can you tell us what happened with these packages delivered to your house while you were

away um i think i feel comfortable telling you in the audience i think we have we have five more

minutes okay show that we can do it went great okay good so i couldn't tell i see this photo you sent me you set up a like I was calling it a construction tent it's not what is the proper term for this kind of tent on on stilts that you set up outside your front door I don't know what the

name of it I got it at REI I've never used it I bought it aspirationally I bought it because I might be the kind of person who has a beach barbecue and there's so many people but they want to be under a tent like it was very much like a thing that I'll use when my life is better

it looks like it's been in my basement it looks like the home depot is calling them canopy tents if my if my word salad didn't make sense to folks so you told us about this before you went on your trip a bunch of expense like kind of expensive and and nice uh cabin cabinetry is being delivered

well yeah it's unfortunately i mean the annoying thing is it's just a few pieces but because of the weirdness of the supply chain it's like basically some of the stuff i went to ikea i bought basically like a bunch of kitchen cabinets and some of it has to come from some other place by way of fedex which i had to actually pay shipping on which is kind of annoying but then all the other stuff is coming from the ikea truck like next week but the stuff that they're delivering this week is like all ikea furniture basically sawdust that's been you know honed into a like a diamond of of scandinavian furniture like press and it seems yeah and it seems like exactly the kind of thing that you don't want sitting in the rain for a week

yeah which is what's gonna happen i know this from living in places that have had little like water leaks like on a counter and the counter swells up and it's just terrible right and so

i put this rei canopy tent up and weighted it down with all these big rocks and then also because there's been a lot of confusion of where of if my house is actually the address that the delivery system is telling them because i don't have an address sign right now i also spray painted my address on a piece of wood and screwed it into the hand rail at my house all of this so that ideally the person delivering this ikea press board situation would know to put it down under the canopy so that it would be slightly less rained on and then i also moved my ring camera so as to observe this and i was refreshing refreshing refreshing yesterday and i was very pleased to see that all the stuff made it and it's under the canopy so it's in about as good

a position as it can be now i'm looking at this now and it looks like a giant cat a giant feral cat is dragging one of the pieces away as we speak is that is that also part of the plan

yeah that's tommy and um he we have a kind of an understanding that anything he can drag away he's

allowed to keep i have a question for you which is uh not interesting but uh you know since we're short on time why not ask it um you and i i blurred out your address i took you sent me a photo of this setup before you left on your trip i used it as a show pic i blurred the address out but for folks who want to picture it was like a piece of a small plywood i think and you had like orange construction spray paint and you spray painted these numbers on it no and you spray painted your address on it my question is where did you get that orange construction spray paint Did you just have that laying around?

I had it in my basement. Really? I have a, yeah, I'm proud. Are you a tagger? Yeah. Are you Banksy? My graffiti name is Deez Nuts. I just go around spray painting Deez Nuts on anything I can. I have a basement that is full of all kinds of things like orange spray paint and other stuff. And I have to say, it was very gratifying to go down there to think I need some orange spray paint and to go down there and to look in the area of my basement where I've put all the paint. Like there's a kind of a what would you call like a workbench and it's it's all everything painting related. So it's, you know, rollers, brushes, the actual paint, anything.

and I went over there and then I found the thing I needed and it was in the area where I had put it. That was like a very good feeling actually.

And this is all paint you've accumulated. I don't know why I'm like a dog with a bone on this, but this is paint you've accumulated because obviously you've moved a lot in the past, like let's say five years and living in an apartment. You didn't move this paint with you. No, I did not. This is all stuff you've accumulated. I paid someone to.

I had a moving service, bubble wrap it.

Yeah, the paint. Yeah, exactly. So I guess I was just interested at some point like in the recent future, you needed to go out and buy yourself a can of bright orange uh spray paint and i was just curious like what that project was but again i'm getting as far

away probably walt i think walt said we need to get this because we were spraying it in areas of the madrona hill studio where we did not want someone to drive a nail through something that makes sense like i think we sprayed on the outside of the adu so that when something maybe it was the siding went up it did not pierce something that was important and that's as much as i can tell

you but we did buy it at some point that sounds believable but what i'm hearing is you and your dad are huffers and you've been huffing and it doesn't matter what color the paint is that's

what i'm hearing um because you can see me on riverside you see the ring of day glow orange

oh have you ever seen love liza oh it's such a depressing movie and that is no yeah it's with Philip Seymour Hoffman. Directed by Ed Zwick? I don't, maybe. I don't know. It's got Philip Seymour Hoffman and he plays a very complicated character who huffs and by the, and that's basically all I remember about it is the movie destroyed me. It was like, whatever the most depressing movie you can imagine is turn it down by a hundred. And I remember like his face starting to develop something from his huffing habit. And I was like, I don't think I've ever seen that depicted in film before. And it was just so sad making. Whoa. Yeah. Anyway, a little Love Liza reference for the end of the show. Yeah, let's end on a high note.

I'll ask Ed Zwick about it when I get over there.

Ask him exclusively about the movie Love Liza.

I feel like he canceled scheduled ride. Oh, you're trying to get a car. I am, but I'm very mad at the Lyft Corporation that's trying to charge me for a ride that I didn't even schedule yet.

we'll figure it out this will be tomorrow's show

we'll fix it in post thank you everyone for listening thank you Andrew for being here I think you look great honestly I think you do not look troll like at all as mole men go you're not a bad one I'd like to talk to you about your mole situation alright thanks everybody we will see you tomorrow with more imaginary radio in the meantime have a great Wednesday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

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