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important be careful though it's spicy all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a monday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live i just want to hug this show and never let it go my name is luke burbank i am your host coming to you today from beautiful burbank california where um let's see burbank who is he got a lot of burbank happening here checking in to a hotel in burbank california when they ask the last name on the reservation and you say it is burbank is um uh it's quite an experience at at one in the morning as was the case last night when i checked into this burbank airport area marriott um and um it was a pretty active california got sunshine it is a nice day by the way although everybody on the radio this morning I was listening to KPCC. That's what I call it. I believe it's called LAist now. I was listening to what I still consider culturally KPCC, public radio. And they were saying, boy, the weather's really taken a turn. It was really warm this weekend, but we're looking at some cooler temps. And I'm looking outside as it's blue skies and, I don't know, 65, 70 degrees, thinking this is pretty nice. Pretty happy to be here. But, yes, the lobby of the Burbank Airport area Marriott was popping off last night. We'll talk about that probably coming up here on episode. Let the fun begin. 4,159 in a collector series. Also, it's I guess it's sort of serendipitous that I'm here in La La Land today. So who needs a movie? Because, of course, last night was the Oscars. I did not watch the Oscars. like you know I didn't sit down and I didn't put on a tuxedo and fix a special meal for it but I monitored it and I know that among other things Jimmy Kimmel got off I think a pretty solid joke during the Oscars that's a pretty good spoof was something he has now told um Mark and Kelly I'm trying to remember what the new name of Regis and Kathy Lee is it will always be KPCC to me and it always be regis and kathy lee i believe it's called kelly and mark now jimmy kimmel was on there this morning saying his probably best joke of the night which we're going to play for you he was told backstage whatever you do don't tell this joke um so we will play it and see if he made the right decision or not and we'll also talk to this guy the longest running cobro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships he's andrew walsh and he's joining me right

now good morning my friend i don't remember how to do this am i doing this right yeah am i doing so far so good hear me okay nothing no no errant knobs or buttons pushed this is good i just talk like this for a while i try to make you laugh that's how the show goes uh-huh yeah that's the

good it's a simple simple program i want to tell you andrew first of all welcome back it's really

nice to see you i'm glad to talk to you seriousness yeah i'm looking i'm looking forward to this

i uh i'm not how do i put this i'm not advocating people gone girling in their relationships or gone guying or or gone non-binary whatever whatever kind of goneing you might choose to do i'm not advocating for it but what i'm saying is you really do appreciate a person when they're gone and man oh man when you were gone last week you and views were in uh mexico um and it was on me to kind of manage the recording of the program, and it was on our friend John Sklaroff, a TBTL employee numero uno, to post it. John did a great job, by the way. Everything from John's perspective was handled perfectly. Everything from my perspective was touch and go. And I just want to say, I see you and I appreciate you.

you my friend and all of the things I I could absolutely not do this show without you from both a content and a production standpoint so welcome back and I should have been better to you were

you are you gonna be upset to hear that I was faking the whole thing just to just to test you you know I had seen something like John had posted on social media but and it sort of seemed like it was uh everything is a little bit on fire over here but I figured that was mostly just kayfabe But it seemed like you put out two good shows. I will be honest with you. I have not heard them. I didn't listen to TBTL while I was on vacation. But, you know, it looks like you had a couple of good guests. I don't know how you booked. You had Susie B on. I don't know how you managed that. But congratulations.

I was able to. Yeah, that was a lot of back channel stuff. I was able to. I mean, the Dayton Peace Accord had nothing on me getting Susan Burbank on the show. and then we talked to um stephanie de santis also known as the house poor person from queen anne who was in the new york times honestly i think both shows were pretty good the thing that was challenging was on friday's program uh we were there were a bunch of uh scheduling snafus and uh i forgot that i was supposed to uh do a local tv appearance in portland on friday morning so my mom and i were going to talk at a certain point um and at and because she was busy doing her kind of work stuff throughout the rest of the day she has a bunch of these kind of odd jobs and uh because i then suddenly had to be in portland the the time when she and i were going to talk now was sort of up in the air so what happened was i had to record this conversation with her very late in the day but what i also realized was once all the content creation was done then i still had to like this is very boring but why not why not celebrate your return by talking about the normal boring minutiae of the show that you and i love so much then i had to sort of go into riverside and i had to grab the i did download the wave files of our respective conversation because my mom was by the way what a surprise my mom was able to download the riverside app and talk to me on it that was

a real shocker this first of all you don't need to download the riverside app but um or wait oh Was she doing it on her phone? She was doing it on her phone. My apologies, my apologies. You do have to download that.

The reason, Andrew, the reason I had her download the Riverside app was because she was not familiar with cutting and pasting the Riverside link into Chrome.

Ah, yeah. It is funny. Browsers have sort of, weirdly browsers, which was once the most simple part of the Internet, have become weirdly complicated these days i think in the era of mobile yeah it it oddly became the

simpler solution to invite her and then have her on her phone grab the link which would then prompt her to download riverside the app you and i use to talk to each other and i'll tell you when she popped on there and i saw her bright shining face and we were talking via this app that you and i are on you could have knocked me over with a feather but all that is to say i had there was a of technical stuff and and like audio you know pulling the audio and mixing it and trying to get john something that was usable after all of the content creation and that's certainly a part of this that i am mercifully spared from most days is all the the and you know the just everything about the show that isn't me talking to this microphone to you again i'm very privileged that that you handle that and i appreciate you doing that and i've never appreciated you more than i did friday at about 3 30 when i was like trying to line up wave files in garage band i gotta i gotta

i gotta ride this goodwill as long as possible you know luke i'm a little short on cash i don't know how you're doing over there um i well like now i have like a million questions that are not appropriate for the show like just about the technical details of our program i was hoping that you wouldn't have to go into riverside because i'll be honest with you this program that we use to record these days is pretty slick but on the back end like after the production i feel like the interface is very confusing and i was hoping that you would not have to actually go in there to to produce it uh in the in that way without going to more detail i think you know what i'm talking about but it sounds like you were able to do it i mean the lesson here is like you know like you got it done it's like you don't need me that bad what am i doing talking myself

out of a job here um it all worked out and what the what i basically decided on the friday show was it was better to have the show post a little bit later and actually follow through because i promoted on thursday's show that my mom was going to be on and i figured it was better to just i mean it's a i think it's a it's a pretty narrow sliver of folks who are maybe listening to each episode almost like right when it hits the internet and a lot of people are listening to it days and weeks later so i figured my anxiety around the show getting posted at exactly the normal time i needed to kind of um sort of quell that and just go look it's going to be fine it's better to put up what i think of as a more entertaining show like talking to my mom is always more entertaining than me narrating my car drive to portland which was my backup plan i was going to be doing like a kind of i don't know audio diary of my morning or something so anyway it it all ended up okay and again thank you to listeners for their patience thanks to john sclaroff for all the help and thank you sir for coming back from mexico not deciding because based on the photos i saw on instagram that place looked lovely where you and genevieve were and i would have been unsurprised if you just said

i live here now yeah although i don't think the photos i took i think were mostly of just like

close-ups of rocks and i mean mostly genevieve i was gonna say you must be you must be on visa's

instagram yeah um no it was a really really nice trip it was nice to like completely unplug i I appreciate you guys kind of taking over all the production stuff when I was out. And it was like sort of the perfect length stay. We got a lot in, but also, you know, so we stayed in Puerto Vallarta. I always say Vallarta, but it's not spelled Vallarta, which makes me think I'm saying it wrong. You're more of a Spanish speaker than I am.

No, I think you're saying it right. I mean, what would you say? Puerto Vallarta?

Vallarta? I don't know why I'm saying Vallarta, but it sort of seems like that's what my mouth wants to do.

Well, folks seem to say it, although I don't want to get over my skis, as it were. I don't want to get over my churros on this one when it comes to trying to pronounce places in Mexico. So it sounded okay.

Anyway, I'm glad this is still working okay. Just talking about my performance today. But, yeah, it was one of those things where, like, there were a couple of times where I was sort of like, boy, it'll be nice to just not have to negotiate. And when I say negotiate, I don't mean, like, negotiate the price on something. I just mean constantly kind of thinking, OK, dollars to pesos, constantly thinking, where did I see this place? And can I go to this place? I don't have enough pesos. Can I pay with a card? Like it was a very nice trip, but there were a couple of moments where I was like, I'm also like going to be glad to get back to the States where everything is a little bit just, you know, I don't have to overthink everything so much. But we stayed in a we stayed in a nice place with some some some nice resorty style pools and everything. I wanted to tell you the one thing I think I want to tell you this it's a little bit of an embarrassing story because I think it makes me sound like a rube but about the trip back which was my first experience riding on a 737 Max have you ever heard of these airplanes before have they gotten any news or anything

they've been very very little discussed in the news media of late

yeah I mean I know people aren't into airplanes why am I listing that particular plane I don't know just let you know that I was on it Now, I assume that in your many, many travels, now this is the plane, of course, that was grounded for like two years, I think, but has been flying again. And of course, fake doors are flying off at mid-flight, what have you. You've probably ridden on a 737 Max, I mean, in all of your travels.

This is the thing, Andrew. I'm sure that I have. I might have flown on one last night. Yeah. I don't know what any of the airplanes are called, the physical airplane. and this is where my obsession with kind of like maximizing my uh every moment of my travel this is where it stops i couldn't tell you ever what actual body style of airplane i'm on here's what i know every once in a while i get on one and my suitcase doesn't want to go in the overhead the suitcase that's fit in the overhead of all the other alaska airlines planes and that's always a dark day for me but i don't even know what that plane is like you know i gotta put it in there like a taco luke isn't that what we learned on the show that's exactly so uh so i i'm guessing i have been on one of those planes again i literally might have been on one last night but

i never know the body style of airplane i'm on listen i'm with you i'm no frank shire i don't wait was it frank shire who was it when i first started working at cairo radio i don't think it was frank shire there was some editor who was training me at the overnight editor's desk and he was obsessed with planes and that way only certain people of a certain age who grew up in seattle during the the real like right height of boeing and just like there are certain people who are obsessed with like knowing every airplane type i am definitely not like that at all the only reason i noticed that this was a 737 max was because number one obviously because it's been in the news so much missing the door and also it was up on blocks that was the other thing i was like wait a second I think I've heard about this thing so anyway um no I'm waiting uh you know Vives and I are in at the Mexico airport at the Puerto Vallarta airport and the airplane pulls up that we know we're going to be boarding we got there pretty early and right on the nose of it it says max right so I'm like oh I guess we're going to be flying on a max and then uh and maybe you don't have this in first class but in the other in the seats that I sit in there's always like a little card that slides into a seat that's right on eye level with me and it says 737 max right like the kind of instructional manual in case things go sideways so anyway because of all of the I don't consider myself a super nervous flyer but I've as I think I've described it to you on the show before I'm never unaware that we're in the air you know what I mean like I think I didn't fly until I was in my 20s for the very first time and I was very nervous on that flight and I didn't know the the sounds of the airplane so when i would hear like maybe a landing gear for the first time i was scared that the airplane was falling apart i didn't know what to look for now with the ripe old age of 47 i guess um you know i've been on a few airplanes and i'm not as much of a nervous flyer um but i guess i can be triggered because i was on this airplane you walk on it's like brand new and i mean it's noticeably a brand it's still got that new airplane smell right which in any other case, you'd be pretty psyched about, you know, like you want the nicest, the latest in airline luxury, I suppose. But of course, I'm just thinking, oh, shit, a wheel going to fall off this thing in the sky? Because also about two days before we got on the plane, and I know this was not a 737, but there was some United flight. I'm sure you saw the news on that that a wheel or

a tire came off. At LAX, I believe, where I landed last night. Oh, okay. I believe so. It smashed some cars and that that if i have the details right that was notable to me because there are a lot of airplane watchers that sit at the foot of lax right there on sepulveda where that in and out burger is that's always got a line there are some little some little parks there or like a little park a little stretch of grass that people love to go hang out and like watch the planes because they're getting very low at that point they're just about to land at lax and um some of the cell phone footage i saw it looked like whatever came off of that flight if a person would have been you know standing there it would have been bad bad news right um so yeah i did see

something i was gonna say if the wheel ended up falling off in that what is it like the e lot or the x lot or whatever it is that that what is that lot called that's just the huge lot you can literally lose your car there for years and never find um or you can have your car towed right that

happened to you which happened to me because my tabs were expired and so i mean that to me felt like real dirty pool like my my subaru outback with expired tags i guess was it parked in the long-term parking at lax and they just drive around looking for cars to tow i got back to what a that was a that was a real letdown when i got home after some long trip and i'm just Wandering around the, like, because first of all, you're going to wander for a good two hours before you actually think your car was stolen or towed.

That isn't that navigating that parking lot. And that was going to be my joke is like they would never find the cars where the wheel hit them because, like, you could just lose anything in that lot. It's huge. It's just like a huge and like the signage and the markings are terrible. You have like grumpy shuttle bus drivers like riding around like they've been stuck in there since eternity, too. So if you ask them how to get somewhere, they just sort of growl at you like large marge. It's a very scary scene, that lot.

So I don't want to turn this into travel grumbles with Luke. But speaking of shuttles, by the way, did you finish your thoughts and comments on the Boeing Max?

No, I'm just kidding. It got you here. Yeah, so spoiler alert, I survived. But yeah, let me tell you what this is building up to. So when we're on the tarmac about to take off, I try to text my friend group and just say, hey, we're on a 737 Mac. So, you know, goodbye or whatever.

But you didn't send that text to me.

Well, it turns out I didn't send that text to anybody, Luke, because like for some reason, usually you can fire off a few last like text messages or whatever on the tarmac. But apparently that is not the case at this airport. So there was no connectivity. So my phone kept saying message, not sent, message, not sent. And I was just sort of ignoring that. But then I also started to think, like, I don't like this message that I tried to send, this sort of jinx-y message that was supposed to be jokey. And so whatever, I'm like, I don't know if I even should have sent that, but whatever, I sort of ignore it. And then we're flying. Everything is fine. We're up in the air where we're supposed to be as an airplane. And then four and a half, five hours later, we're approaching SeaTac. And, you know, everything is totally normal. But I'm just like, I do have it in my head that planes have been malfunctioning a lot, at least in the news lately. And I kind of don't notice, but I sort of retroactively realize that I've sort of been hearing the landing gear noise kind of usually the landing gear takes sort of a second. Depending on where you are on the plane, you can hear it engage or disengage and that's it. And on this particular flight, I don't know how airplanes work, but that noise just sort of kept on starting and stopping and starting and stopping. And I'm not really noticing this at first until we are. descending and getting closer and closer and I'm in the aisle seat there's a stranger to my left and then Genevieve's at the window seat and every now and then I'm just sort of peeking over you know across everybody out the window to see how how close we are to landing right because when you're in the aisle seat and you can't you can't see out the window at all you can you can get fooled like it can sort of feel like you're very close to landing on the ground but you're still I don't know still just approaching you know as they're making their descent and so I like to like sort of know when to brace in case it's a hard landing and by the way the landing in Mexico everybody on the flight screamed they hit the ground it was like pretty smooth it wasn't like turbulence and then also we just hit the runway really hard landing in Mexico so I'm sort of just like looking out the window a little bit like when is it time for me to just sort of brace for a landing if need be and I see that we're very close you can see already like runway lights and everything and that's when the plane decides to start going back up into the sky and starts ascending again. Oh, I've been on that. Yes. Now, I know it can be a thing. I don't think I've ever been on a flight where it's happened before, but I know that sometimes there's traffic on the runway or whatever, and they're getting close to landing, but then they need to go back up in the sky and fly back around and make a new approach because of some sort of air traffic control situation. But the thing is, we were so close to the ground. And Genevieve will back me up on this. She's in the window seat. We were so close to landing. When this plane, without any announcement, without any communication from the pilots or anything, just decides to go back up in the sky. And I keep on hearing the whirring sound of these, of what I presume to be the landing gears, whirring over and over and over again. I wasn't thinking like, oh, no, we're going to crash and burn and die.

I actually had more of a thought like, oh, we're going to be the people in the news that I was watching two days ago when they were like shocked getting off the airplane and walking across the tarmac because their plane was missing a wheel and had to kind of skid to a stop half on the runway. Like that was just sort of living large in my head. And like to go back to the handholding thing, I was thinking like, oh, do we get to a point later on? Will the flight staff, if worse comes worse, let us shuffle our seats so Vives and I can? I'll take the middle seat if this is the time to hold hands with Genevieve, as we may have some plane disaster or a disaster-adjacent type of situation. But we're starting to go back up in the sky, and finally a pilot comes on. Oh, another little thing that's living in my head is about 20 minutes before this, as we start making our approach, a real chatty – a chatty doesn't even begin. A chatty, somewhat coherent pilot got on and started talking about what our process is going to be to go through customs when we get off the plane. But he's mixing in a bunch of jokes that he sort of forgot that he already said, and he's repeating himself. And I swear, if I were not on a plane, I would say, oh, this is a drunk person. This is this is I know this sound from people leaving late night messages on the TBTL voicemail line. You know what I mean? And sometimes from co-hosting the show with me. Right. Like I'm telling you, like I'm sitting there. I'm like, whoever's making this, I'm looking around. I'm like, oh, please let this be a flight attendant who's making this long rambly. It was like a bad toast at a wedding when somebody is both a little bit nervous and also has had too many cocktails to sort of take the edge off. So in the back of my head, I'm also like, are the pilots drunk? I don't think they were, by the way. But we're finally coming back up. You know, we've made our approach. Then the plane starts going back up into the sky. And I swear they waited another minute or two before a pilot finally got in and said there's a little traffic on the runway. They told her we'd be clear, but we're not clear. So we're going to just circle around and make another approach. and I'm like okay that sounds reasonable and I know that that happens and the woman sitting between Veeves and I said oh yeah this happened to me one time where they made three approaches and I missed my connecting flight you know it's no big deal but I can't get the sound of those of what I think is the landing gear mechanism it just keeps on going and just making this noise over and over again and I am thinking are they lying to us like is this I just feel like it's 737 something has got to go wrong on this thing right and it turns out nope it was totally in my head they circled back around it really was a traffic situation and we landed very very smoothly and nobody was hurt I didn't have to hold Genevieve's hand although I did sort of want to kiss the ground afterwards because I my imagination ran away from me I guess or with me um and I was so so nervous I don't think I'd been that nervous on a flight in a long time whatever sound I was

hearing was probably totally normal but i just totally constructed this whole disastrous situation in my head and i just got to say let's communicate better people we don't need really long drunken sounding rambles from the pilot when you're like doing like bad stand-up or whatever you're doing but

i still don't understand how we were that close to the ground before they got the message was it a game of chicken was it like no well that's the thing probably be clear by the time we're down there but then we'll we'll have to pull you up or you know give you a high sign if we're not if the carts aren't out of the way i don't know if they're shopping carts on the runway or what it is but like why welcome to portland why did they get the note so late and why were we getting

the note so late that's my only complaint yeah that seems like a very knowable thing like you have x number of airplanes that are you know out there on the active runway and they're moving at a certain pace or there is a line like i'm not saying it's an easy job at all you know doing air traffic control in fact it seems like a very very hard job indeed but it does seem like a knowable thing like it's weird that your plane got pretty close to terra firma right before it was decided that no actually you know what that's not a good idea let's just go ahead and you know the pilots love that shit though because they're like oh we're doing touch and goes today hell yeah like because those things are fly by wire right pretty much particularly those brand new those newer jets like they're mostly autopilot to the point where there was just a story about a plane flying somewhere i think kind of in the general area of like indonesia where both pilots fell asleep oh i didn't see a couple days ago yeah it's basically you know they're supposed to like be one at a time and one pilot went to sleep and then he woke up and then he uh uh after his little his nap time and he said to the other pilot do you want to nap now and the other pilot said no i'm fine so pilot number one goes back to sleep and then at some point they're out like the air traffic control cannot get a hold of them for like 45 minutes this is like 150 people are on this airplane and then pilot number one wakes up and looks over and sees that pilot number two is

sleeping he's like oh that's not good it's like a yawn it's contagious you see he realizes that the

the plane is off course and then he re uh he re uh you know routes it and they end up landing in jakarta per the plan i thought this was kind of interesting i don't know if i want to say charming because there is there are lives on the line this is a very serious thing but basically they said there's going to be a full investigation this is of course not okay they said that pilot number two the pilot who was supposed to be staying awake but then fell asleep just had twins and has been getting no sleep at home and had moved the day before this flight it was a surprising amount of detail about this pilot's life yeah like he's he's got twins that are keeping him up and the the thing about the moving was a weird detail had just moved apartments the child care thing though i mean that

is i'm sure it's relatable to a lot of parents who are listening right now but it also sort of speaks to well then let's give him some more parental time off you know can we have pilots can we have pilots who are not exhausted because they've just had had twins yeah i just i was like

and then i thought about the moving and then i was like did his friends help him does he have friends like do you get to use the airplane to help you move precisely so um it my point is that these airplanes can mercifully oftentimes fly themselves for a while and so you know when those with those pilots particularly if they had a few yeah they're going denzel washington in the movie flight we were upside down at one you know get we've run the simulator we had 10 other pilots in the simulator and none of them could have landed that plane they couldn't drink me under

a table either so anyway i just i that that it gave it reminded me of how nervous i used to be flying and how like a lot because i think when i was a brand new flyer again in my very early 20s I think I was always listening for things that I thought, oh, well, that marks the end. I was like, it reminded me of what a nervous liar I used to be and that it still lives in me a bit, I guess, because I was very, very glad. When we touch ground, I was so happy. I really did want to kiss the ground.

I am, you know, a little bit less kind of nervous around the being in the air part. But I get very nervous when I land at LAX about getting in the Uber or the Lyft. that's where all of my anxiety is because lax where i landed last night uh is a pretty big disaster for that stuff so in the early days of rideshare it was the case that you could you know just get you know call the car and you'd wait in a little area kind of like most airports now but lax is so busy so overburdened that they now have a like a a parking lot that's off site that you have to take a bus to to get your ride share the whole point of doing the ride share in the early days instead of a rental car was you don't have to get on the shuttle bus that was the big advantage but now they've they're like it's takes so much time to work your way through all of the terminals of lax i mean it's just it is choked with cars at all times Thank you. What about regular cabs? Are regular cabs out at this external lot as well, or can you just grab a regular cab? Yes, yes. Oh, really?

No, I would happily take a yellow cab or something or some such. No, they're building something they call the people mover, which is a very misleading name. It's not just a giant, long, like, you know, what do you call it? We call it a people mover, like not an escalator, but like a flat thing that moves people. moving sidewalk walkway moving moving sidewalk moving walkway the people mover is not that the people mover is just another like a kind of monorail system so what is going to happen eventually is you when you land at lax if you're trying to do a rideshare thing you will get on a monorail type of deal and it will take you to where the cars are which i don't like at all but it is what it is i recognize that it is not a functional system to have all of those cars coming through the the the roundabout of the terminals at LAX um so yesterday I get in very late I this is a I'm not supposed to I'm not even supposed to be here today I'm not supposed to be here in LA today I was supposed to be here tomorrow but um there was a last minute change of plans CBS wanted me to add something to my trip so I got in really late last night and I thought well maybe that'll mean that the it's like I don't know just that the car situation isn't so annoying but in fact it was extra annoying because i land and then i walk out now they've broken me down i'm waiting at the it's called the um lax it the lax it um bus i'm waiting there uh for the bus to come get me to take me to where the and i've called you know i've in the system they they literally said uber or lyft is like call your car and it's okay if you're running behind which i was like that's a bad sign why are they already building that into things and so uh i'm standing there waiting for the uh where the shuttle bus and a guy walks by and he goes are you waiting for the shuttle bus and i go yeah and he goes don't do it bro he's like i was waiting for like 45 minutes for one they're all full they're not stopping and it's like a 15 minute walk from here i'm just gonna try to walk for it and i was like oh okay now i decided i didn't uh at that moment want to try to walk because i was worried that what would happen is i would start hustling towards the this big parking lot area and then the la exit bus would go past me full of all the people i had been standing around with like i was in very torn about what the proper like i wanted to do the right thing because by the way carlton my lyft driver was already showing up at the waiting area because i should have been there long ago and i'm sitting there and not one not two but three la exit buses come by us and don't even stop and the drivers don't even make they're too full i mean i'm being honest with you having lived in new york city and been on the subway there we could have gotten a few more people on these buses but like the drivers were just like they were not even in the like there's two lanes right like and and the right lane would put them close

to us the drivers were intentionally in the left lane and they were just like doing that thing like you might do if you know for whatever reason you don't feel like making eye contact with somebody while you're sitting in your car and uh and they were just like dead ahead just driving with like this pretty full buses of people so i was like ah crap so i had to basically like drag my suitcase my rolling suitcase and and my other stuff uh and like basically jog at like 12 30 at night it was it's it said it takes up to 10 minutes i thought well that's okay i mean i'm you know i probably walk a little faster maybe than they're accounting for but it was like really far away and then the lift area was the furthest away what you don't realize about things like airports the size of lax or like las vegas is that the scale is out of whack like walking to something at lax is not like walking to something in your neighborhood it's not like you walking down to the am pm you like to go to it's like everything is so huge that even if something looks like it's close it's actually very far away because of the scale of things and so i had to sweatily jog to the lift thank god carlton was very patient and when i got there i was like i'm so sorry he goes hey no problem it was not your fault i got in and um and uh he got me out here to burbank but But they've got – something's got to give there at LAX. It is right now not a functional system.

One thing that you would not have – we had a wonderful trip. I got a tiny bit cranky just at one point during the trip, and it was just a tiny bit. I didn't, like – usually if I get a little cranky or stampy, I sit with it for a while. But, no, it wasn't that big of a deal. But what do you think are the top – this is a weird way to start this. What do you think are the top three characteristics of Genevieve? things that she loves what are the things she loves most getting a deal getting a deal that's actually

related getting an upgrade getting an upgrade sure that's or like getting a kind of like a cool it's a version of a by that i just mean maybe getting kind of like working things out just so um so getting a deal um uh and i gotta get two more public transportation i'll give it to you

And Genevieve loves public transportation. So she tells me, you know, like well in advance, you know, and by the way, I want to make it clear, like this trip, I even talked about this. Like, I don't know if I would even go anywhere if it weren't for like work trips with you. And then and then, you know, I definitely would not go on vacation much if it weren't for Genevieve because like I just don't have that. Nothing like kind of pushes me to do it. But Genevieve will plan these trips for us. And I really, really appreciate it because, you know what, Luke, it gets me out of the house. And and so Genevieve planned everything about this trip. And I'm just like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh the whole time. And then I think I maybe looked at the hotel we were staying in when I was on the airplane on the way there. I'm like, oh, you should probably tell me the name of the hotel we're staying at just in case we get separated in this foreign country. So that's like how much I'm sort of checked out of the process. And Genevieve told me she's like, hey, when we get there, she's like, I think I have public transportation worked out. It's like only 10 pesos a person to get on a bus. and it's not even for this it's a little bit about the money but I also think Genevieve just loves public transportation feeling like she just really believes in it and also I feel like she says she told me one time that understanding a city's public transportation actually gives her a sense of freedom like she can get around feeling like you can get around a place on your own especially a place you don't know gives her a sense of sort of I don't know if power is the right word agency agency is the better word yeah perfect so anyway So she tells me, you know, like, hey, when we get there, if it's a real cluster F, then we'll call a car or something. But I think I got it worked out like all these buses go right into Zona Romantica where we were staying, Luke.

And you guys are really, I mean, between secrets in Costa Rica and Zona Romantica. I mean, the international version of Andrew and Vives is spicy caliente, which I believe just means hot, hot.

A lot of the Romantica that is going on in Zona Romantica is not our kind of Romantica. It is like the big gay part of town. And so it's like tons of like bear and leather clubs and all kinds of like gay bars and clubs and everything.

Listen, Andrew, Romantica is Romantica is Romantica.

Exactly. So it was fun just seeing like all the like just signs everywhere for like all kinds of hilariously named drag performers, including. and i apologize for saying this but i'm just i'm just giving them um you know some promotion here mama tits who was uh i'm trying to remember what mama tits was performing like glitter in glass or something i don't think glass is a word but anyway uh it was a really actually it was a really fun place to stay but anyway genevieve said hey listen i have it worked out it only is like 10 pesos a person which is like 60 cents a person to take a bus into town she's like i really want to try this i'm like absolutely let's do it i mean i'm just i mean i'm here on your time like i got nothing to do i got no responsibilities if we want to try taking the bus we'll take the bus so we get off the airplane in mexico and um it's kind of a crush of people that are trying to convince you that you've already ordered a a you know sort of transportation in advance but luckily we know well enough to to kind of we've done this routine several times so we make our way out we finally find the bus stop we get on um and we end up making it pretty close to our hotel uh no problem but then you know five days later whatever it is and we're leaving town Genevieve really wants to take the bus back but we've already had like some problems navigating the bus system once we were in the little neighborhood or the town and so it was very confusing as to where we're supposed to you know the the map is our phones are telling us one thing where we're supposed to get on the bus everybody else is telling us something else and like we know the various numbered buses we could get on to get to the airport but suddenly they we don't see one for like a half hour once we finally find our stop it just seemed and i start looking at like my phone i'm just like how much would it cost to get a cab you know we're staying at a resort like as we were leaving the resort there's like we'll call you a cab and i'm like no we're taking public transportation at that point i wasn't cranky about it i was like we have food at home you have uber can we get mcdonald's

We have hamburger meat at home.

We have Uber at home. And it's a picture of a broken down Mexican bus. And so anyway, like it is funny too. Like the buses are not like Seattle buses. The one that brought us into town has literally a cracked windshield and old like stuffed animal like suction cups to it. And like it's no E-line. No, honestly. So anyway, it was so I'm invent. But the thing is, I have Genevieve's really heavy bag, which is like a huge duffel bag that doesn't have wheels on it. but she needed it because her rollercoaster

bag wouldn't hold as much stuff i've got that sort of on top of my roller bag but it's like it's not structurally sound and all of the streets are just busted up cobblestone like these are not yeah and i'm like kind of half carrying half dragging all of our luggage around town in this blazing hot sun and also i'm getting ready to go back to seattle so i've got like my wool pea coat is like draped over the luggage too i got jeans on at this point you know i've been outside in like a t-shirt and shorts this whole week but now like we're trying to find this bus and james oh i think it's this other stop and so I mean I am pouring sweat and I'm just like how much do you think and

this is where I got a little I'm like Genevieve how much you're dressed like a man who may die in a plane crash and you would like your remains to look present and I know it's important to

Genevieve to take public transportation and I get it too it is a sense of both victory and agency like you said when you can figure it out but here we are like it's our second time of like almost failing at getting a bus trying to get somewhere during our trip and um I'm sweating my ass off And I'm like, how much do you think it is just to get a cab? And Genevieve makes an estimate. She's like, I don't know, probably 40, 50 bucks or something. I'm like, still, like, you know, like, let's just do that. But then I look it up on my phone. It's a round of drinks. Yeah, not even. Yeah. And then I look at my phone. It's like, it estimates so much less than that. And then it's like, and I'm reading like these Quora boards or whatever, like as I'm standing waiting for a bus that's never coming. And it says, Ubers are $15. And so I open up my Uber app. I didn't know that they had Uber there. and literally you know because they give you the the price in advance and literally i'm like ubers are 15 and she's like all right let's just give it another 10 minutes i'm like at this point i don't want to call an uber either because that means all of this all of this like kind of literal heavy lifting of me dragging this shit around these cobblestone roads sweating my ass off i don't want to get into noon into an uber at this point i want the bus to come and so finally we get on a bus right not the exact bus we were hoping for but one that did eventually get us to the airport going around about way so anyway i just sort of think about like there's no way like that you and genevieve are so alike in so many ways except for when it comes to public transportation or transportation in general you have you have you probably have an uber waiting for you at sea tack right now to get you home after your flight back well obviously what am i gonna stand

around like an idiot when i get there in two days so anyway i did take public transportation i took public transportation this weekend and it was lovely we went to the blazer game uh me and uh becca and my brother-in-law jason and my nephews jack and abe and becca's nephew alexander we went to the blazer game and we met up at pollo bravo my uh sister sarah's restaurant we had some dinner and then we just walked right down to killingsworth and international um and or interstate rather and just jumped on the max and went right down to the modus center got off watched the basketball game blazers won in overtime went back out got back on the max went back to where i mean it was the dream of public transportation it was like this is so amazing we didn't have to deal with the parking down there it was convenient it was fun to hang out like i i mean it i won't do it again for 10

years but it was a great experience when it works out i mean it's it really does feel very freeing I agree with that. Yes. And I always just hate the feeling of having a car shackled to me, like, oh, I get there and I got to find a place to park or what have you. Like, yesterday, Vives and I went downtown to the movies, and it was so nice. Just get on the E-line, and you're right there.

Did you see Dune 2? I did.

Yeah, I'm looking at the clock here. I knew that. You didn't even tell me. Do we have time to get into a Dune 2 conversation? Probably not. But, yeah, if you saw the first one, I recommend the second one.

I do want to hear about that. Although, being that it's a Monday and I'm in Hollywood and they just had the Oscar last night, maybe we'll talk a little bit of Oscars. I want to play this Jimmy Kimmel thing. But then on tomorrow's episode, let's talk about Dune 2 because it's really been – I have been planning to go see it. I haven't seen Dune 1 or even the original ones with Kyle MacLachlan and whoever else was in those David Lynch ones. But, yeah, I do want to talk about that. Maybe we talk about that on tomorrow's show.

we was hoping for some razzle dazzle razzle dazzle that's right man razzle dazzle on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go everybody razzle dazzle

we gotta thank some dazzling donors these are the incredible generous supportive people who are keeping tbtl going with their donations of a dazzling amount of dough one of the things about the shows that I was in charge of Andrew was, I don't have this song. Oh. So I had to play the Bill Haley and the Comets version of this song.

Oh, yeah, I know that version. Yeah, yeah.

I tried to, I like this one better. I like ours, you know, the traditional one, but I tried to pitch it as a feature. Yeah. Not a bug to the folks that were. We're getting thanked last week, the last couple of days. But I'm glad that we're back, too. Who does this version?

I was just looking that up. For some reason, I do not have it saved. I know I've looked this up before, but I do not have the answer in front of me. Well, that was the problem.

I was trying to find, like, Razzle Dazzle, Bill Haley cover versions. I could not locate this. So I'm glad to have it back. And glad to be thanking Darren Lone Fight, who's in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. Indeed. Darren, Carlisle's been coming up on the show kind of a lot lately. Yeah, exactly.

And I think Darren sort of addresses it coincidentally here.

A long-time listener, first-time dazzler. Hey, Darren, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Thanks for all the great memories and wonderful stories and anecdotes you all have created between myself, my loved ones, and my friends. Many, many years ago, I was involved in a serious snowboarding accident, and I spent several weeks in the hospital. And listening to TBTL every night with my wife during that difficult time was incredibly meaningful and sustaining for me wow darren i'm hoping that you recovered from that and you're doing better i'm glad to hear that um our little show was at least some small bit of comfort for you uh and i don't want to i don't want to sound like i'm being glib but i will say that is the most one of the more badass ways to injure yourself true snowboarding accident is pretty is pretty dope i'm not i don't wish this for darren and i don't wish this for darren's family and i'm sorry to hear about it people can get very hurt doing that but it is a pretty it's a pretty cool ass way to to sustain an injury if you you know somebody asks you what happened it was like i was snowboarding and uh you know thought i could thought i could clear that crevasse and it turned out to you know be larger than i expected yeah i i blew a knee out playing

with my magnetic poetry set in the 90s so that's like that's a slightly less cool way yeah that'd

lower that's like definitely probably i would say not in the top five of cool cool ass ways to hurt yourself outside looking in um let's uh uh also plug something on behalf of darren i am the founding executive director of the mellon foundation funded center for the futures of native peoples at dickinson college in carlisle pa carlisle was the location of the first federally funded off-reservation boarding school and our center works to remediate and reverse the long-term effects of the boarding school experience on indigenous communities please encourage the tens to google our center and reach out if they'd like to help um like uh more information or whatever else they can also email us at cfnp cfnp at dickinson.edu that sounds like a really really important work i mean one of the things that we know about these boarding schools that were set up for native american folks in the u.s and first nations people in canada is that they were pretty much without question horrible places for the people who were being brought there and And trying to undo some of that harm, or at least, as Darren says, kind of remediate some of it, is a very, very worthy cause. So check out what Darren and the Futures of Native Peoples at Dickinson College are up to. And thank you, Darren, for the support. We really appreciate you. Maestro? On your mark.

On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dattle. You were your own Maestro last week. Well, look who it is. Sorry to cut you off. I was. Did you call yourself Maestro?

how'd that work i did it was weird hey i called myself maestro and then i activated bill haley in the comments for the second for the for the second time in the segment yeah no it was things again i hope that people embraced it as just kind of a couple of oddball episodes of the show with me pretty much solo just droning on hey look who it is it's our friend dr kirk honda kirk as in captain honda as in accord he says in seattle washington um it's uh our friend who is a guest on the show often talking about therapy and psychology and relationships and things like that uh kirk uh host arguably of a much more popular podcast than ours called um seattle

psychology today is it psychology in seattle i'm so sorry psychology in seattle today i will google

it it only has literally millions of views on youtube uh another great year of podcasting friendos says kirk you're always the first podcast i listen to every day i just love the patter insert that drop i don't have the drop here because i'm on the road um do you have access to the great louis anderson as i love television i've got to have that thing on 24

four, seven. I love the patter. It's from baskets. Oh God. What a great character. Louie Anderson

as Zach Galifianakis, his mom in baskets. Um, you two are relatable, funny, lovable and handsome. And then says insert drop. I'm wondering if that's a reference to the kids at the school telling the Minnesota Vikings place kicker, Darren Walsh, after he missed a kick against the Seattle Seahawks in the playoffs that doomed the Vikings and I believe they had school kids write letters to him so he wouldn't feel so bad about missing the kick and one of them randomly

said you are handsome yes I remember it was a kid voice saying that I forgot that it's not Darren though and it's driving me crazy um I'm sorry Walsh though isn't the last name definitely Walsh because I think that um you know his I think his career was short-lived after that and I'm Sorry, let me see.

I believe he came to the Seahawks for a minute.

He did. He did.

He was a Seahawk for a season. I'll continue reading Kirk's account here, and then you can see if we can find out a little bit more about this. We don't have that drop, Kirk, but just imagine it in your head. See, this is how I communicate now. Every other sentence I utter reminds me of a TBTL drop. I've been listening to the first year of TBTL. Have you ever thought about listening to some clips on the air? Your reactions would be fascinating to hear. what i would say dr kirk is when we have revisited uh the olden days of tbtl um it has been and you can appreciate this as a trained um psychologist and therapist it has been re-traumatizing for me um i don't feel i don't listen to that stuff and feel good about myself i listen to it i feel bad about myself so um i try not to do it too much maybe what i need to do is do some work on myself so that hearing the early days of TBTL does not make me feel agita. But as of right now, it does. So I'm going to continue to practice self-care. I'm trying to couch all this very much in the terminology of therapy and of self-improvement and self-healing. And I'm going to not do that a whole lot.

You remember we, so obviously you and Jen used to do that even on the radio. I think you would like even, you were maybe a year into the program and you do This Day in TBTL History and a little excuse to listen to a flashback. And then I think upon the request of listeners, we did bring that back, like straight up, like the same branding and everything, like maybe when we were new at 8 p.m. and like the 2015 ish era. And I enjoyed doing it. I don't remember why we stopped. Maybe it was your agita. I'm not exactly sure.

But I don't I don't know if this day in TBTL history bugged me so much. It's just when we needle drop on like early episodes, particularly that first episode. I think it was probably just the production lift. I think it was just remembering to do this day. By the way, Blair, yeah, I'd look that up.

And yet I don't think I have that tape. I'm wondering if that's just in your computer.

Let's see if I can find it here for Kurt. Again, I'm having some technical times here in California as well. And I don't want to make things worse for us because my system seems to be going on and offline. But here we go. I think I may have located it. We'll see if this plays. It's taking a minute.

You are handsome. Don't worry. Yes, there it is. Worth the climb. It's driving me bananas because I know that I had a longer version of that at some point, but I don't know. I had a thought when I was like, you know, clomping around Mexico trying to find a bus that would take us to an airport. And I have, you know, my laptop. I have all of my worldly, not all my worldly possessions, but several things that are very important to get back home. like my computer and my phone and my wallet and my passport of course and uh and i did think like boy if something if i drop this bag in a funny way if this computer breaks we lose a lot of audio i need to this week it kind of put the fear of god in me like i i need to like kind of um back up a lot of my audio archive onto some hard drives this week because i carry this computer around like it's just another phablet luke but man if i lose this thing we lose a lot

i um it's funny because i think if i was going on a trip to uh if i was going on a trip out of the country i think sometimes i don't bring my laptop as an act of radical relaxation i've noticed that that's that's the only times the times when i know that i'm really on island time is if i actively because it's a temptation because we just we still like to like look at the internet and be on our laptops and find out where the restaurant is. I mean, there's a bunch of useful things to do with one's computer on a vacation, but for me, not bringing it as a way of telling myself this is going to be a trip where at the most I might scroll a little TikTok on my phone, but we ain't getting into any of that computer business.

I felt like between Genevieve and I, somebody needed.

a computer and mine is the smallest one and also i'm glad i took it because luckily i didn't get into uh really too much work stuff or anything but you know even i like to edit my photos on the computer it's like it's also a toy for me so i was glad i yeah it's something to do yeah yeah

yeah i don't think you made the wrong call it was just reminding me that like and also by the way when i leave for a trip and i don't have my laptop with me it does feel like i am going on a space walk yeah and if the and i feel untethered i feel like i'm like what are the possible implications of this and will and here's a funny part i only have rude not bringing my computer places i've never been like it's never even been a good call like it'll be like last minute email from cbs like oh we just fact check that and can you actually just quickly retract this and i'm like actually i can't i don't have my computer stuff with me or my in my audio equipment like i'm talking to you right now i like to like i like to not bring it because i feel like then i'm going to get to relax But then I'm just anxious the whole time because there have it has been the case that there's been one little thing that I need to do when on vacation and I can't do it because I don't have the stuff.

But isn't that the whole point, though? You're like totally you're you're you're solving that you're like, because then then you can start like kind of, you know, pulling at that thread. Like, I'm just going to do this one thing for CBS. Like, maybe you have you have protected yourself from getting too much into work stuff. Just tell them, like, no, I can't do it. I'm on island time.

I usually drive to a Best Buy and just purchase whatever I need. and then new microphone of course thanks to our daily donors or i should say our dazzling donors by the way hello and welcome to top story all right we're um we are a little short on time today because i am dashing off to the uh warner brothers lot to observe the one of the final days of filming of the television program Young Sheldon um which our friend and the producer John Goodwin who I'm working on this story with sent me some kind of notes on it and he spelled Young Sheldon like y-u-n-g like how many most rappers now are young something and I thought what a different program if it was Young Sheldon y-u-n-g or Lil Sheldon and he's got some face or Lil Sheldon yeah exactly um so we don't have a ton of time but I do want to just play this for you um because i thought it was kind of interesting i actually thought it was just kind of funny so uh the oscars were last night um here in la and uh jimmy kimmel came out this i feel like what i know of the oscars is that they always are running long right isn't that always the story with the academy awards is like every it's supposed to end at a certain hour but everybody took too much time maybe they've actually maybe they've cracked down on that too effectively because jimmy kimmel came out i think towards the end of the show and said he basically had an extra minute to fill oh yeah that sounds rare which i like right like and also by the way as a host i've i've never hosted the oscars and i never will um but even if i'm hosting some little small charity event in a radisson somewhere if they go can you fill those are the those are the last things i want to hear as the host ever i mean i'm sure at the scale of the oscars or the academy awards or whatever there's obviously a million writers there's a bunch of contingencies i don't think that this has to be scary for jimmy camel but what he apparently decided to do and he said this morning on a tv show that this was against the advice of most of the people backstage was go out and read a tweet that donald trump had tweeted during the oscars what and about the oscars and i'll just play this for you okay and i'll get your reaction to it so uh this is i was told we have like an extra minute

and I'm really proud of something. I was wondering if I could share it with you. I just got a review, and... Has there ever been a worse host than Jimmy Kimmel at the Oscars? His opening was that of a less-than-average person trying too hard to be something which he is not and never can be. Get rid of Kimmel and perhaps replace him with another washed-up but cheap ABC talent, George Slopinopoulos. He would make everybody on stage look bigger, stronger, and more glamorous, blah, blah, blah, make America great again. Okay, now, see if you can guess which former president just posted that on TruthSend. Anyone? No? Well, thank you, President Trump. Thank you for watching.

i'm surprised you're still isn't it past your jail time i have to say that i did not exactly see coming uh-huh uh it you know what i mean you could say it's a kind of a i don't know basically hollering for donald trump to be uh you know hauled off to jail is you know is not the most original form of but i i will say i was like in the i was in the lift finally carlton and i had been had been united and we were whisking our way along the 110 freeway and i was like like listening to that in my headphones on my phone and i legitimately laughed out loud isn't it past your jail time i thought it was a pretty good spoof it is um and it i mean we could have a longer a much longer conversation about this sort of question of how much how much oxygen do you pump into the the dumpster fire that is the commentaries of donald trump but in this way i actually thought it was pretty good because i think it's kimmel getting the last he's getting the last word and also he's got the big microphone last night yeah you know trump is over on his truth social bs and he's there's a temptation to want to just like let him kind of spin spin his wheels in the cesspool that he's created of social media but i i think you know millions of americans hearing a joke at donald trump's expense about him you know the fact that i believe he should be in jail um that i think i i support kimball's decision to walk out there and do that joke but i also think it's kind of interesting because if people are like just don't read that don't give him any attention or like to go out on that stage there's still a pretty big stage in this day and age it's maybe not what it was at its high point in terms of viewership, but still, the Academy Awards is a big night. To walk out there and to basically to some degree wing something, even from a practical standpoint, I noticed Jimmy Kimmel was reading the message on his

phone. I was wondering, so they didn't, there was no visual representation of it or anything. They didn't put it on a screen, of course.

No, he literally pulls his cell phone, his iPhone, out of his pocket and is reading it. All I could think from a hosting standpoint was, please don't let it be his lock screen like please don't let like please don't let his phone have gone to sleep please then i started thinking did he screen cap it and then just have it as a photo like because i've done this again nothing on the scale of the oscars but i've done plenty of things where i i have whatever i'm trying to read or reference on my cell phone and then that's of course the one time when you can't find that screen on your phone like i was i was retroactively nervous for him to because if he goes out and he says i just i'm really proud of something this review just came in and he tries to read it and it's like he can't open his phone he is just belly flopped on national

television and international television yeah i mean maybe he also has the skills and personality to then then play that off as a joke as well to talk about the the the like whether or not you're giving trump more oxygen by doing this like like because i'm somebody who usually subscribes more to that mindset like let's not even give it I mean there's a little bit of a difference between daylight and oxygen we don't we don't have time to get into this right now like you and I had a very brief conversation about the the larger conversation recently about whether or not we should just be letting you know Trump just kind of stay in the dark shadows doing crazy ass things it's probably better to sort of shine a light on that but then when it comes to like sort of the culture and comedy aspects of it like yeah like how much do we want to like try to i don't know make jokes about something that is both deeply unfunny and also that might make him the the former president feel good um in this case though i mean i don't know what the exact algorithm is or recipe but like this felt from what you just played for me like this felt right you know what i mean like it didn't yes like for whatever it is and i gotta give kimmel credit for that like it was the right call it's like a tonal thing that i couldn't tell you like that if it was slightly different or played slightly different maybe it would have given me the bad feeling but that that that seemed like a pretty solid joke and again it sort of seemed like yeah if if trump sees that which i assume he does kimmel points and president none yes you know

like exactly kimmel one trump zero which is how we like it around here so the other thing i would say is uh just give the damn oscar to lily gladstone the pride of the pacific northwest and they gave it to Emma Stone.

Did she, like, pass through here one time, though? I mean, I know a lot of people were rooting for her and that she should have won, but I...

No, she went to Mountlake Terrace High School. She was in the drama club at Mountlake Terrace High School.

Oh, she did, actually, because I was on another podcast, Don't Tell Luke, but I was on another podcast, and I thought their whole premise was that she had pretty tenuous ties to this region, but no, no, she actually grew up here and went to high school here.

She was in the drama club at Mountlake Terrace High and was in the yearbook, so those scientists need to check their hypotenuse. um but i like look emma stone is is obviously wonderful and an amazing human being and i think turned in a very good performance in her film but she already has one she already has an oscar i know this isn't how the calculation is supposed to work but i'm like you have a person who is the first ever um a native american to i believe be nominated certainly native american woman to be nominated for an oscar in this particular way like i mean it's it's She.

turns in a great performance in killers of the flower moon this is something this is a an important piece of representation like what's the downs you got to give emma stone her second academy award again emma stone is great this is not emma stone's fault but like i don't know i just don't understand not factoring in the fact that this has never happened before you have two you have multiple people in that category who turned in presumably great performances if it's kind of a coin toss If it's subjective, why don't we just go ahead and actually recognize somebody who's who's representing a group of folks that have never been recognized in this way? I mean, I don't know. Am I. Is that the woke mind virus?

I don't know. I mean, it's the Oscars. You know, everybody turns in their own ballot. Maybe you're speaking to each individual voter, but it's not like I am. Yes. Right now.

I'm looking at you, ghost of Roger Ebert.

Everybody could have like kind of had that mindset going. And I generally agree with you, but it's not something that I'm like super, I haven't seen that. I didn't know that you saw Ghost of the Flower Mood. Did you see that movie? I mean, that sounds like a heavy lift just to.

I didn't actually see the movie, but I'm assuming she was great. Power out. And on that note, we better wrap up because I've got to go interact with Hollywood now, Andrew. with that incredibly well-researched perspective on the Academy Awards where I didn't see either of the movies in question.

But you have a strong feeling of who should have won the award.

Yeah, Lily Gladstone. Pride of Mountlake Terrace, Washington.

I tend to agree with you, having not seen. What was Stone up for? What movie?

Killers of the Flower Moon. No, no. Oh, Emma Stone's in that? Oh, Emma Stone. Oh, no, no, no. So the, you know, the artsy movie where she's like a Dr. Frankenstein's monster. Pretty Things.

Poor Things? Something like that.

Poor Things.

Oh, okay. I had not seen that. Okay, gotcha.

I bet you, hey, by the way, I bet you Poor Things is a really, really great film. It's not, nobody, none of the actors did anything quote unquote wrong in this. I just feel like, I was, like, I didn't like that the big headline from the Oscars was the one surprising snub was Lily Gladstone not winning. I was like, why does that have to be the, why does that have to be the snub? Can we try to not snub a person who's making history here? And again, who went to Mount Lake Terrace High School?

I am such an idiot. I went to the movies yesterday, as we mentioned, and I was, Vives and I stood in front of the big poster for Poor Things for a long time, like one of those big cutouts, and I was looking at the cast, I was like, this is going to be so great, I can't wait to see this in the theater. I didn't realize. Well, now it's the Oscar winning film, Poor Things. I didn't realize that. I will be watching this on a streaming service. very soon

alright well listen thank you everybody for hanging out with us Andrew welcome back so nice nice to have you here we'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you I'll be here in LA once again so please do join us for that in the meantime have a great Monday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall

and good luck to all see you later suckers I'm taking myself on a hot air Balloon Ride. Power out.