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I used to be able to name every nut that there was, and that used to drive my mother crazy, because she used to say, Harlan Pepper, if you don't stop naming nuts, and the joke was, of course, that we lived in pine nuts, and I think that's what put it in my head at that point. So I'd go to sleep, she'd hear me in the other room, and she would just start yelling. I'd say peanut, hazelnut, cashew nut, macadamia nut. That was the one that was sent her into a going crazy. TBTL.

You know, I would like to take this straw and stick it in your ear and extract everything you've ever thought or felt or seen or even dreamed about your profession.

I gotta be honest with you, sir. The kind of work I do, I don't think it's as interesting as you think it is.

My podcast is on life support. Hey, I need new listeners. That was a joke. Humor is the tool of the interesting. I was skeptical. It seemed too good to be true. I'm so glad I tried it. all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a wednesday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live my name is luke burbank i am your host i'm joking i'm joking coming to you from the madrona hill studio perched high above the mighty columbia where it's just an absolutely terrible day in the weather department it's raining sideways it's windy it is um it's not great but as we like to say it's warm and dry here inside the studio and we are ready to bring you episode 4171 in a collector's series let the fun begin the uh u.s department of justice has sued apple saying that the iPhone is a monopoly.

I'm trying to use the phone!

That Apple has taken a number of steps to corner the market on... I almost called it a smartphone. Are we calling them smartphones anymore? The DOJ says that Apple is running Monopoly, and a lot of it comes down to the judgment of your peers. if you are sending texts in a group of people and you're not on an iPhone and you're the one sending the green texts.

Hey, I'm sorry, I didn't see you there. I was too busy blocking out the haters.

So we'll talk about that. Plus how it went with the guy showing up to measure the countertops yesterday at my house. Full report on that. And of course, we're going to talk to this guy, the longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is the plant daddy. Don't be fooled by the rocks that he's got. He's still Andrew from the block. If you know, you know. He's Andrew Walsh. He's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

They're just little polished rocks that I got at a gift shop in Arizona. That's a good point.

Like somewhere in like Kingman, Arizona.

It was some like fake old western town. Yeah, I really do have them. Last time I was in Arizona, I grabbed, I was just trying to kind of, you know, kill some time with my family. So we went into a little gift shop that was like, you know, there was an ice cream store next door. And I don't know, probably a Trump rally next door to that. But anyway, we just went into a gift shop and I shopped for these little, you know, I used to have when I was a kid. They're those really polished little stones and you can sort of pick them out and fill a little leather satchel with them. And so I did that and then I brought them home and they actually look quite handsome next to my record player.

um you know you've raised an interesting question around the whole j-lo thing which we talked about extensively the other day um which is that you know she's getting a lot of grief out there in the in the pop culture and for some reason this morning i don't know why this is but i the reason i introduced you in that particular way is because i just was kind of kind of buzzing around the house getting some things in order uh doing my morning preparations etc and i just had that one line from jenny from the block in my head which was don't be fooled by the rocks that i've got i'm still i'm still jenny from the block we all just assumed that she was talking about diamonds it could have been agates from kingman arizona sure she just says rocks and i mean maybe she's like that really changes the song if she's just talking like maybe it's a pet rock maybe it's a rock with a couple of googly eyes on it like it really changes the feeling around jlo if she's Just talking about kind of regular rocks that most of us have access to.

Well, this is interesting, and I don't know if you realize this, but Kirk Cousins.

By the way, that presupposes that what I was saying wasn't interesting.

Kirk Cousins has a coat.

writing um credit on that song as well does yeah so i don't know if that sheds any light on what

kind of rocks she's got mr death rocks yeah by the way this is not a conversation about football this is a conversation about wow really betting on yourself kirk cousins food of thunk boy he's

making some real doe ray me out there in the nfl atlanta who's where'd he end up i forget where

he landed but i know he is making a significant amount of money as is your boy baker mayfield uh

oh i didn't know about that did baker re-sign there in tampa bay in in tampa baker like a huge

contract good i'm glad to hear it he made a he made a buttload last year because he had all these incentives in his contract and most you know players have incentives in their contract particularly quarterbacks and most of those like when we used to do radio did you ever have an incentive in your

radio contract no i only had that one contract and i think we all knew where that was going i don't think anybody was kidding themselves about incentives actually that's not true they might have put them in there but we all just knew nobody really talked about it i actually had incentives in my contract which um must have just been some sort of a hiring agreement when i worked for you and dave ross so i actually if you guys performed well on the radio me as a producer got

a little extra I think you should have gotten a little a little candy on that R.I.P. Newman because that was the only time in my radio career that I ever achieved whatever the goals were to get a to get an incentive I mean that's one of those things both in the NFL and in local talk radio that the managers love to put in for good reason they're like well if this goes really well we'd be happy to pay you more knowing that that's a good problem to have and I used to see those sometimes in my contracts and like you said was never an issue i i never i didn't ever need to reach out to my accountant and say hey um what are the tax implications of these incentives because they were i never unlocked those levels but i think honestly because dave ross hoisted both you and i on his back like a papoose which is really saying something he's not a big guy no be strong very strong um and uh and and carried us along there was like a couple of a couple of times where i just looked at the my paycheck and i said that is significantly more money than i was supposed to be making they were like oh yeah because we got the incentive i was like i didn't even know

that was a thing that could happen i thought it was cool that they had that uh little window in the back of the radio station where we could go and just cash that in like right there on the spot sometimes fill out some tax paperwork but then they would did they give it to you in chips by

the way um i had a special a different clause in my contract that just had a marker so i could just go back there and uh you know just basically get about as much as i needed i just had to make sure

that i cleared the marker out at the end of the month fantastic oh those were the heady days of

commercial radio but anyway kirk cousins dr death rock is uh is is he's got enough money for all the

rocks that he needs nice he is in atlanta by the way it looks like okay i didn't know the details

I've really, I have to say, I'm such a, I am both the most fair weather of fans and also the most obsessed fair weather fan. Like the idea of a fair weather fan is somebody who kind of like only follows their teams when they're doing well. And that's not what happens with me. I sort of follow the, like two major teams I follow would be the Seattle Seahawks and Seattle Mariners. I follow them more closely than any fair weather fan, but I don't enjoy it unless they're good. Does that make sense? Like, with baseball, you, particularly because you manage a fantasy baseball team, and also just because I think you're—

Did you do the—I can't see you today. Did you do the wizard hands when you said fantasy? It sounded like you did the wizard hands.

I did not. Yeah, just so you know, Andrew and I are not able to see each other. Well, I can see Andrew, and boy— You can see me. I didn't want to deprive you of this. Lookin's free. Touchin' will cost you. It's a lot of face. It's a lot of flesh. I was having some technical times here at the Madrona Hill studio trying to fix my camera and the the main camera that I use now it's on some setting where it looks like I'm in the witness protection program and I could use the camera that's on my laptop computer but that's just shooting directly up my nose so I just felt like uh you know the the the best course of action was to just make it so Andrew can't see me today although I do think this little L that represents me and I mean the letter L I kind of like that look for me it makes it gives me sort of some sort of you know disembodied head of richard nixon quality like i'm a great i'm a sort of a great oz today because you can't see me but you can hear me it's a clean look you know what

i mean it's nice it's a simple look it's very clean i'm you can't see me because you said you

don't have that window open but i'm holding no no i'm looking right at i'm holding an l up to

my forehead oh good okay that way we're both else here i uh i actually have to be honest with you i

really

I really like doing the show this way. I didn't expect to like it this much. I can see you, but you can't see me. I have never felt more relaxed since we instituted this new video policy. Why do you like to see me? Because I know what you're up to. I mean, it's like the way that when you and I are in the same room, like Friday, I'm going to do the show at your house. Oh, yeah. I got a clean. Heads up to everyone. Live Wire, Friday night, Town Hall. There are still plenty of tickets available. Dulce Sloan will be there from The Daily Show and a whole bunch of other fun people. Oh, you know who will be there, Andrew, who I think you love? Annie Ruerda, who's the person behind The Depths of Wikipedia. Oh, interesting. Love that site. Anyway, it's going to be a great show. Friday night, please come see us at Town Hall. Again, it's a big room, and we'd love to see you. But that allows me to be at your studio on Friday morning, Andrew, which I'm excited about because you and I always talk about how the shows are extra fun when we're in the same room, And I think it has to do with being able to see each other. The interplay is a little bit different. It's just, it's a, you know, it's just like a nice thing to be able. So I'm enjoying the fact that I can see you, but I'm also enjoying the fact that you can't see me because I'm feeling my internal, whatever it is that my performative thing that knows when I'm on camera or being observed visually, that thing is just turned right off right now. It's a great, great feeling.

That's funny. Yeah. And I don't have – and this might be a little bit of a – I'm really interested, and I know that we're not talking about it now, and we're not talking about sports. We're talking about what you talk about when you don't talk about sports and how that makes you feel when you talk about, I guess, iPhones and Apple in lawsuits. I'm interested in talking about that because it sort of sounds – the reason I'm bringing it up now is because your experience using, I guess, video technology or whatever you want to call this is so – I don't know. the way you describe it seems foreign to me in some way and that i i can't quite explain like that it affects it affects the podcast for you and the way you do the podcast in a way that like and again it's not because i think that i'm uh some hunk who looks good on the screen oh far from it uh but in the similar way that i heard you describing the uh the iphone the green thing i'm i'm very curious to talk about that because it's not i it's yeah i can't tell if this is something that is supposed to upset android users like me or upset apple users like you because like everybody talks about these green bubbles i i have no problem texting with people

who have iphones anyway more on that soon well let's talk about that um when we get to the top stories i do want to update on the everyone on the thing that america has been absolutely on the edge of their seats about which is how it went with me and the guy here to measure the counter breaking news uh we had a lot of breaking news by the way thanks shout out to our good friend Lin Pham for grabbing this audio. We have

Breaking news. As I was making those sounds yesterday, I was assuming I was pulling somebody out of retirement. I shit you not. For one last job.

Just like Sexy Beast. That's right. He was at the swimming pool just baking in the sun, enjoying a life of retirement and was called in for one more hype.

Breaking news. Speaking of rocks, that's one of my favorite openings of any movie ever. Have you watched that recently? Is that why it's on your mind, or is it just sticking your mind the way it does for me?

It sticks. We're talking about the movie Sexy Beast with Ben Kingsley, which starts with a kind of a little, if I remember right, is it always a big boulder, or is it a small rock that rolls and then hits a big boulder?

No, I'm pretty, you may be remembering it better, but I'm pretty sure it's just a big boulder that gets closer and closer. that he's sunning himself, not Ben Kingsley, but kind of the main character.

Oh, Ray Winston.

Is that his name? I don't know him from anything other than that, but he's this sort of-

He's a lot of British stuff.

He's this very sort of barrel-chested sort of guy who's out in the sun, who's got like a golden tan. You can tell he just spends a lot of time at his pool, but his pool is sort of in a canyon. And that song Peaches by, I can't think of the punk band who does that song Peaches, but it's a very kind of like, almost, I can't describe it in any other way, but sort of filthy-sounding sort of song while this boulder comes rolling closer and closer and closer.

The Stranglers.

The Stranglers! Peaches by The Stranglers as this boulder kind of comes and then splashes very cinematically into his pool. Honestly, yeah, my favorite opening of any movie ever is the first three minutes of that, four minutes of that. Wow. Maybe with more time to think about it, something could best it but i mean it is just it's perfect it's it's not only perfect or as

our friend the stew bot would say objection of uh what objectively perfect uh-huh sometimes i'm

objectionably perfect on the show right but i can't help for it imperfect on the show But not only is it sort of a really, really, really great open to a film, but I think I've talked about this before. It has become for me and probably why I brought it up, because it has I was talking the other day about visiting that Albert Frey house in Palm Springs. And it has a swimming pool and it's this glass box and it's perched up on this hill. It's kind of sunbaked. And that opening scene of Sexy Beast. And I don't think I'd ever even been I don't know what my thoughts were On architecture at the time When that movie came out and I saw it I don't know what my thoughts were On my sort of Hollywood Hills moment Or my BoJack horsemanning of my life Or whatever But I saw that scene And there was something about Ray Winstone's character just Might even be at a Speedo I think

He is, he is Real banana hammocky kind of situation

Just basking and basting And broiling in the sun And there was something about that That just spoke to me in a deep And almost kind of like primal way That it woke something up in me That I never realized was there Which was I would like to live out my days Somewhere in the Mediterranean With nothing to do all day Except lie and bake in the sun Which is exactly where we find that character Before Ben Kingsley shows up and ruins it all And just starts screaming

Ben Kingsley just screams I haven't watched this in over a decade He just screams the entire time, right? Just yells rat-a-tat-tat in everybody's face.

Yells, but just cajoles, connives. He's pretty much all stick, no carrot, but how big the stick is varies. He's more badgering, in my experience, than yelling. He's just relentless. The fact that Ben Kingsley played both Gandhi and that character from Sexy Beast, that's some range, my friends.

That is some range. I believe they're in the same universe, actually. I have a whole theory about that.

Gandhi had a secret life that nobody knew about that is portrayed by the character he played in Sexy Beast. Anyway, yeah, so I'm really enjoying not being seen by you, Andrew. And it doesn't affect how I do the show. It affects how much effort it takes for me to do the show. Like right now, it's taking no effort to do the show. Yeah, I can tell. Because I'm just talking to my friend. Go ahead. You're going to be at the bottom of my swimming pool if you don't watch yourself. They're going to come by and go, hey, Luke, you didn't used to have that mosaic at the bottom of your swimming pool. It's roughly Andrew-shaped. This right now, you and I talking, my friend Andrew and I just chatting and chopping it up, talking about Kirk Cousins and the like and greatest opening scenes of film. This feels so good to me. If I had this camera on and we were recording the video, I would be trying to remember to look into the lens of the camera, and then I would be asking myself a question of, is this the rest of my life doing the show? Am I going to get used to this? I want to be doing staring. I want to stare at the river, but does that make me look like I'm staring into the middle distance? Does that seem odd? Maybe I'll develop this over time, but I haven't shaken the feeling of being quote-unquote on while we're doing this. And I think you've, by your own description, you've very effectively shaken that feeling. You're just kind of like, yeah, it is what it is. We're talking. We're two guys talking. And then sometimes there'll be video of two guys talking. And that's absolutely fine. I'm hoping I get there. I wonder if my wiring will never allow me to get there because of my vanity.

I, um, you watch a lot more. We've talked about this before. I was hesitating there because should we continue this conversation or move on? But, um, I feel like you watch a lot more of this format than I do having scrolling through you know when you scroll through tick tock as much as you do just like you know people on a podcast talking and they're sort of to me that it sort of seems like everybody sort of has a the video is sort of incidental not that people don't want to look their best and i know that a lot of people put a lot of work into their appearance before they go in front of a camera and people even do that for zoom calls at work so i understand that uh again not everybody has the advantage of giving up on life in the way that i have um but when i do see people talking on a podcast i just sort of feel like the the it's less like tv and it's more sort of like oh there's a camera there but you can just go ahead and do what you're doing you know what i mean if you need to i don't know if people are tying their shoes much during the podcast tapings you know what i mean like i i i said the same exact thing before but the very first time we tried this technology and then i think either i or maybe john sklaroff pulled a clip as a little kind of test a little uh what's the fancy word for um uh i can't think but there's a better word for test when you're kind of like in the creative process. Either way, we ran a little test video. That's a good one too, but that isn't what I was thinking. That's something I need. You know what I was thinking of? The rash that I've been having lately. Proof of concept is what I wanted to say there. Wouldn't that have been cool?

I think of that as a business. Yeah, maybe. Real like biz guy term.

I'm kind of a business guy now. i don't know if you know that about me well yeah sure you're one of the you're a co-owner of very

successful media company tv tv and i meant more when i grew the mustache that's what really kind of just kind of hurtled me into the business world really um but anyway yeah so i just remember grabbing a piece of tape or john did or something and like i don't remember what the content was but it's just you and i talking and it was very clear that i had forgotten that a camera was rolling but it wasn't in that way that's terrible like when you're walking downtown and suddenly you walk in front of a big window and it reflects yourself back and you start a building. You're like, ah, that's what I look like. It didn't have that feeling to me. So don't worry. I still have those insecurities. It just sort of looked like, oh, yeah, that's what we look like when we talk. And there was something almost and I mean, this not just for you and I, but for other people, when I'm watching that sort of format podcast, there's something almost sort of comforting about it, sort of intimate and warm to me. Here's the thing about all those podcasts that are that are

video podcast that you see clips of on places like tick tock and you're right i do see a ton of that content what i've been noting lately and this isn't helping my just kind of low frequency you could say insecurity or you could be less generous and say narcissism is that what i've noted is that there's a lot of good lighting in most of the ones that i watch so the ones that i tend to see are uh well theo vaughn has one i don't i don't set out to watch these right it's Like, I don't want to officially say I'm a Theo Vaughn stan per se, but it comes up a lot on my feed, and I'll see him talking to somebody sometimes, and I'll watch it for a minute. There's one called Bad Friends with Bobby Lee and a guy named Andrew Santino, I think. There's one that I really like right now, hosted by a woman named Brittany Broski. She is genuinely hilarious. Oh, that was the one I sent you where she says something like, what are the kids up to?

or what are the what are young what are young men up to or something yeah or something and she said

i don't i don't know i don't know uh she has one called like the broski report or something and it's it's amazing she's it's honestly it's it's like whatever the daily show is now when uh when john stewart isn't hosting it which by the way i have not stuck with that um i should but i just haven't remembered to she's sitting at this desk she's doing kind of she's just talking and riffing and being really funny by herself but she's on a set right and it's kind of like a faux News desk but with more like going on More flair I've been what I've been Noticing because I've been thinking about this in the context of Our show and our video stuff And there's also one That's hosted by Stavros Halkness Or Halkis who I Think is really funny but All of those are on sets I feel and I don't and you forget that like I feel Like the good ones there's one called two bears one cave Which honestly I've kind of I'm Sort of I get it at this point Like that one is Tom Segura and Burt Kreischer I think during the pandemic When that one started popping up on my feed I was like well this is kind of fun Two fellas that look not dissimilar to me and Andrew Are chopping it up and people like it I thought maybe there's something to learn here I'm not that intrigued by it anymore I honestly think Tom Segura is not that funny I think he's just kind of mean Like I think he's kind of withholding Like as a person who's watched that show pretty extensively I think most of his comedy is watching watching videos is either being withholding for the guy Burt Kreischer, the co-host, because the other dude has a kind of well-documented, complicated relationship with alcohol. So he's somebody who has vast appetites and he's often drinking too much or eating too much, doing too much of everything. And Tom Segura has gone through this evolution that I've noticed a lot of these male podcasters seem to have, which is even Nate Bargetsy is a little bit of this. They were guys who were stand-up comics they were kind of touring around they were doing their thing they were in sort of larger bodies and then they became these internet stars who had these podcasts or nate bargetsy i'm i remain a huge fan of nate bargetsy's by the way but they suddenly became these like stars of the internet and to some degree television and like in the case of tom seguri starts like lifting weights a lot and being real like you know about his health which is great good for him But it's most of that show with Two Bears, One Cave that I see in these little increments is Tom Segura just kind of looking apoplectically at Burt Kreischer, who's made a bad decision, while Tom Segura has been making a good decision. And now I may have just described the dynamic of TBTL as well. So who knows? Maybe our time is coming to an end. But my long winded point in all of this.

Well, you make some bad decisions, too. It's not just me.

my long-winded point in all this is as a as a power user of these clips of all these of all these podcasts that are video what has been what i've been noticing lately is they're entertaining and they look good because they're well edited and the people doing the talking are in living are in very hyper

realistic living rooms that are not living rooms they are sets designed to look like a living room and i think what's happening is the visual cue is a it's just some guys it's just stabby and his friends they're just hanging out they're sitting on a couch they're just chopping it up but what they are is they're on a set that's designed to look like a living room with people professionally lighting it with multiple cameras and with great edits and the result of all of that is some very entertaining content and so that's i think also living in my head somewhere i'm not saying we need to up the production value of this i don't think we have i think we have the resources or the interest in that but i have been having that thought lately that a lot of these video podcasts that they they give the impression of being very casual and being very just like someone turned on a cell phone camera in someone's basement but there's a lot more going into it i think in a

lot of them oh of course yeah absolutely and I think about that and yeah but I think it does run the gamut as well that's why when I was talking before you know I think of like you know Mina Kimes will do a hit and that's actually from her home right but obviously it is just like the lighting is perfect and her hair and makeup is perfect and like some people put a lot a lot of effort into it but I do think it sort of runs the gamut um you know now now I'm thinking of some podcasts that have somewhat lesser um uh sort of video quality but I kind of don't want to call them out because that's kind of rude and they're kind of our friends but they're also very popular podcasts that are doing really well and so i think it can just sort of run the gamut i guess it depends on yes like i don't want to look like a troll either like you know that i've been like you know

i've been obsessing over the fact that there was stop going in the comment section and posting

hateful things well i need to get it out somewhere um but you know like it was driving me crazy i know it seems like a small thing but to me it was so unsightly seeing a bunch of cables coming out my wall behind me in the shot like i don't want to look like an absolute troll down here but also i don't think that i need to look like mina kimes either you know like i think i think it's okay

well because but see this is the issue andrew and this is the heart of this whole thing you can get away with a lower production value but then the content has to get better and i'll give you an example there's a podcast that chad ochocinco and shannon sharp do and chad ochocinco Clearly cannot be bothered To go to a studio I think he lives a life similar to mine Well except he is rich and famous And a tremendously talented athlete Other than that our lives are almost like one for one But by that I mean He's usually in a hotel room somewhere And he just sort of has He's like using the laptop camera And he's just got like a desktop microphone And he's just talking to Unk Which is how he Affectionately refers to Shannon Sharp as Shannon is Repeatedly within the same sentence Referring to him as Ocho Ocho when I tell you Ocho That I did not think Ocho this was going to end the way it did Ocho But the content That these two guys are doing is so funny To me it's so entertaining That I don't care about the production value I don't think we can achieve That standard of broadcasting So that's why I'm proposing we get studio Lights in here and we get some real Slick edits so we can continue to turn in the kind of mid-content that we've been doing for years now. Okay, quince. Wait. Uno, dos, tres, four, cinco, seis, siete, ocho, nueve, diez. What is quince? I think that's

fifteen, I think. Fifteen? Nice. Because am I right? Ocho cinco? Am I right that that's eighteen? No, I'm not, am I? Ocho cinco. What is... Oh, geez. Why did I do this? Eighty-five. It's eighty- ocho cinco. Right, right, right. Yeah, I'm sorry. Because his number was eighty-five, I believe. Yeah, yeah, sorry. oh that's so embarrassing i should know the numbers at least up to 20 in spanish i just

had to count them out though i just had to count them out i'm not proud of that either although i also do that with the alphabet like i'm talking the english alphabet if you give me like a if you're asking me about like let's say a d or you're asking me about a q i got that top of my head but if you're asking me if you get in the middle there baby if you're talking if you're if you're asking me about a about a you know an s and a maybe a an s and an r forget it i'm i'm in trouble i gotta sing the song in my head i think we might have talked about this before in

the show and it's so deeply i mean this is oh man we really need better video quality in order to make this work um but in my uh sort of the weird like sort of games that i play in my head when i'm trying to put myself to sleep one of the things i started doing in the past year or so is trying to say the alphabet backwards, which is not something that I grew up being able to do. I think, like, in the past year, I've learned how to do this.

Somebody practicing for their next field sobriety test?

Well, I was going to ask you about that. Is that a, is that, do they make you say it backwards? Because I feel like I've heard that before, but, like, can anybody, like, now I've been practicing, but is that a common thing? People should be able to say the alphabet backwards, even if they're sober? I didn't realize that that should be a requirement of...

humanity there's a lot of um there's there's a lot of disagreement and speculation online and because the tooth the two pieces of content that get delivered to me a lot when i'm looking at tiktok are podcasts the video feed of podcasts and then people who are in various states of trouble with law enforcement oftentimes maybe being pulled over for suspect being suspected of drunk driving or something and there is a theory out there that basically says the field sobriety test and things like quoting the alphabet backwards or you know quoting the alphabet t through v but skipping every other letter or whatever oh i've never heard of that one oh no i mean i don't even know if i've ever seen those applied i just you know you hear about them and there is a theory that says that those are things that no one can do ever no matter what their kind of state of mind is or level of sobriety and that it's all basically like kind of a trap in the words of admiral akbar it's a trap um and and so that is why you know attorneys advise that people uh decline to do the field sobriety test but i don't yeah i don't know uh i don't know if they're if the if the cops of the world are out there actually asking people to say the alphabet backwards or not um but it can't hurt to know how to do it so i'm glad you're preparing

it's the hardest part is the beginning it's z y x and then i want to say w then it's v u t s r q

whatever it goes do you then let me ask you this do you have to go a b c d e f g h to get element up q r s t u w x y and z so z y x w do you have to count up to the end of the alphabet to count down because to me it's so it's such a pattern in my brain that i can't like this is why i can't tell you the exact order of the letters but i if i you know sing it or say it to myself i can get there i feel like if i was going to have to count the alphabet or do the alphabet backwards i'd have to go from a to z and then from a to y is that the next one w x y and z and then a to x and then a to w and then you know what i mean i'd have to count up each time well when i'm training and when i say

training i mean laying in bed in the middle of the night and just trying to sleep um yeah i think that's how I started doing it because I again like I don't know any other way to do it like I didn't yeah I wasn't like trying to learn how to do this for school or something so it's not like I was studying during the day with like you know the alphabet in front of me so yeah in my head and again all of this was in the service of trying to relax my brain into just like you know conking out so yeah I think I started that way but my deal is I'm just trying to get it ingrained in my head backwards I don't know why but it's I'm trying to get it ingrained in my head backwards as comfortably as it is forward um but for me it is that v and w and trying to remember when you're doing the uh alphabet backwards which one kind of comes first or seconds depending on which way you're going so i think to get myself started i do usually have to start with t like t u v w x y z okay z y x w v u t and then i just have weird groupings of the letters after that like there are certain letters that i just always group together in the alphabet anyway like q r s t uv like kind of all i think a lot of kids me included at some

point really thought there was a letter called elementop elementop sounds like a like it was like there was just right like there's just we're doing letters we're doing letters and then we're now at the part that's elementop like we've just we're just like a chunk there's just like a name in there for some reason because it's so musical when you get to that part of the song um so yeah Yeah, it was only recently I learned those are distinct letters.

Yeah, just recently. Elemento is actually, it's kind of like a sauce that millennials put on their toast. Elemento, I don't know if you're familiar with that. And that's why they can't buy houses. That's exactly right. You've been reading the same New York Times piece as I have. I have.

We was hoping for some razzle-dazzle. Razzle-dazzle. That's right, man, razzle-dazzle.

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready.

Hey, let's thank those dazzling donors who thankfully have reduced their avocado toast budget this year and redirected that wisely, I would say, towards too beautiful to biz concerns. Folks like Katie Broussard, who's in Salt Lake City, Utah. Katie says, hello. I'm surprised and honored to be today's dazzling donor.

strong start katie i like that that is such a good joke i read that yesterday and i can't quite put my finger on why that makes me laugh so much because whatever day we read that that joke is

just as solid no it's very very good and um and uh i'm i'm surprised that nobody else that i remember has done that before it's got a very academy awards We'll be right back.

Sort of feel to it. First, the tax write-off part. I am a naturopathic physician with a practice in Salt Lake City, Utah, and I do telemedicine. And I'm licensed in Washington State and Utah. My practice focuses on helping adults regain their hormone and gut health. So all of you with poo problems or Dr. Arakaki syndrome, a.k.a. low T, or folks going through periomenopause, come talk to me. By the way, Katie, you have been listening. The fact that you can just drop a Dr. Arakaki reference like that is great. Becca has asked me to stop joking about having a low T.

Oh, because it reflects poorly on the entire situation?

No, just because she doesn't like me joking about getting older at a rapid rate or sort of the degradation of this rig that is Luke Burbank. Yesterday I sent her a picture of that rainbow I think that we used for the show pic And she said oh it's a double rainbow And I said almost a triple And then I was like you know that guy right And Rebecca's a little bit younger than me And said no I don't And so then I found that clip Of the double rainbow triple rainbow guy And I sent it to her And then I started watching it And what I realized was I very much identify with that guy More than More than I did like 20 years ago At 20 years ago I was like what a nutcase What a charming nutcase And now I was like I get feeling emotionally Overwhelmed by a rainbow And then I texted Becca And I said I actually am kind of I'm picking up what this guy is putting down I go it's probably low T And she goes can you like Can you 86 the low T jokes please We need you around for a while Stop talking about the How you're not long for this world Anyway Dr. Katie's website Is www.drkatiebroussard.com And Broussard, I'll mention, is spelled B-R-U-S-S-A-R-D Dr. And Katie is K-A-T-I-E Dr. Katie Broussard.com Or you can follow her on social media At Dr. Katie Broussard Except Dr. Katie is not on X Because that is a troll-littered wasteland

I just want to say one other thing too Dr. is D-R I know that we're kind of spelling this out in kind of backwards order, but it's D-R, so it's the abbreviation for Dr. Katie.

It's W-W-W dot D-R-K-A-T-I-E-B-R-U-S-S-A-R-D dot com. If you want to pull over, I'll repeat that. Yes. W-W.

Or you could Google it. But it's a beautiful website, actually. I'm on it now. We talk about good lighting. There are some photos on here. Very nice lighting, yes.

Next, I'd like to encourage you to donate or volunteer at your local food bank. as many as 13 million kids in the U.S. don't have enough to eat right now. So head to feedingamerica.org. And finally, a couple of my fave TBTL memories, the long period when the boys kept randomly playing bang on the drum all day.

Oh, God, I forgot about that brief obsession.

I did forget about that as well. And how the day after Trump was elected, how we all cried together. There are so many TBTL moments that I treasure. Thanks for all that you do. So that was, what a weird, what a surprising thing, Andrew, that that moment of collective, and I'll use this word, trauma, I think for us and the listeners of this show, the election of that person to the presidency, it's strange that that moment of kind of shared trauma and just awful, awful feelings did kind of create a real bonding moment for us. And that's a that's a an episode that's cited pretty frequently as a as a kind of a moment when the show, I guess, was able to provide some sort of comfort or at least feeling of like we're all in this together. That being said, let's not repeat it. Let's not let's not have a spinoff episode of that, please, in 2024.

That's exactly how a lot of people feel about the Todd Rundgren song. Bang on the drum all day. Actually, I couldn't I couldn't tell which one you were talking about there for a little bit. That dark period of our past.

Yes, when nobody wanted to work.

Exactly. They just wanted to bang on me drums.

Millennials with their avocado toast and their drum banging all day. Maestro?

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, rattle.

We've also got to thank Chad Bates, who's in Baffle, Washington. Chat says, my favorite mispronunciation of my name was by a waitress in California who called me Chaps Bates. It looks like Bates, B-A-T-E-Z.

Chaps Bates. Chaps Bates. That sounds like, I had a, it bums me out that I think I lost this in my last move, but I had a original Nintendo Entertainment System, and. I had a bootleg cartridge for it that I think I've told you about that had, like, 98 games on it. I don't know how my friend's dad found this thing, but then I ended up buying it off of my friend's dad for, like, 200 bucks. 200 hard-earned bucks when I was, like, 15 years old or something. And it just, like, all of the names of the games were slightly off on the menu. Like, Circus Charlie was one of the games, but it was Circus Chabsey. and I remember being like when Genevieve and I got together and I was showing her this cartridge like she thought Circus Chabsey was the funny I mean I can't believe we don't have a pet named Circus Chabsey to be honest with you give it time give it time

I was gonna say that seems to me like somebody who's DJing like Bad Bunny's DJ is Chaps Betes

yeah I could see that

we the best Chad says that's a DJ Khaled reference I don't wanna I don't wanna smear Bad Bunny's hypothetical DJ Chaps Betes with the I don't want to tar him with the feather of DJ Khaled. Hoi hoi co-bros and John tri-bros? Question mark. Good question. Another year, another donor message. I send in money and you send me homework. Hey, what is this? College?

You don't have to do it. We just appreciate it.

As I don't have a business or hobby to promote. By the way, that is classic Chaps Betes though. Yeah, it is. You know that. He loves to just kind of like, you know, He gives as good as he gets. That's one of the things we know about Chaps Betes.

Yeah, he busts chaps. He sure does.

As I don't have a business or hobby to promote, I will promote a book that I just finished reading. It's called The Other Significant Others. It's by Rhianna Cohen. It's a series of stories about people who have put non-romantic relationships at the center of their lives. Some maintain romantic relationships with others, but the non-romantic relationship had as much or more influence on where and how people lived. Rihanna does a wonderful job of showing how these families came together and have had difficulties working in social and government systems that haven't put much thought into other forms of family. It can be sad at times, but in the end, it shows that there are better ways to share the ups and downs of life with the people who we care about most. As always, thanks for being there every weekday for the tens, and then Chad requests a drop, And I believe it is the guy known as Shep Smith saying, saying, why is this not, why doesn't this want to play for me, Andrew, saying. Jalapeno. There it is. There we go. Yes. That's, Chad, that's a very interesting recommendation for a book and one that sounds like a live wire topic, honestly. Like, just the idea of how our connections with people, people who were not necessarily romantically involved with, how they can be really important in our lives. And honestly, if I think of some of my longest running connections to people, it's people that I'm not romantically entwined with and never have been. And yet they've been in my life for years and years and years. So thanks for the recommendation, chaps. Appreciate you. We couldn't do this without you. Jalapeno. Hello and welcome to Top Story. Andrew, the top story is that the U.S. Department of Justice is suing Apple. I guess they joined 16 states and the District of Columbia to arguing in an 88-page lawsuit. By the way, this is David McCabe and Trip Mikkel writing in the New York Times. They are saying that Apple violated antitrust laws with practices that were intended to keep customers reliant on their iPhones and less likely to switch to a competing device. And here are the broad strokes on it. And the part that I immediately thought of you when I was looking into this, Andrew, because you and I are on one primary group text chat, which is our sports group, but also occasionally the folks that go to the Eagles, sometimes they'll be one of those texts that goes around. And you're not on an iPhone. you're on a it's an android is that what it is yeah samsung yeah it's a samsung s10 i need a new one wait so samsung and i'm not trying to be intentionally thick here oh i don't think we got into this yesterday because the countertop guy was showing up i this has also been in my head for the last 24 hours you were talking about a thick skull and saying you the way you grew up your thought was if someone is kind of not very smart because they have a thick skull because

there's not much room for their brain that was my understanding it was an insult sometimes hurled

at me by my own mother well I definitely agree it was an insult but what's funny is I I mean I agree generally it's an insult but I always assumed as a kid that someone being thick skulled and that in that being why they weren't smart was because their skull was too thick for intelligent thoughts to penetrate from the outside world so if you've got a It's not that your skull has grown in so far that your brain is a little pee, which is an interesting way to think about it. But for me, it was like you're too thick for this wisdom that I'm giving you to penetrate your overly thick skull.

That's interesting. And you might be – I kind of like yours. I'm looking it up now to see if we can figure out the origin of this. I mean, you know, one of the things that sort of, I think, lends credence to your interpretation is it's kind of interchangeable with, like, block-headed. And if you're a loggerhead. Why is blockhead bad, though?

Is it because your head is square?

I feel like it's a thick skull again. It's sort of just like it's all bone up there.

It's got too many corners.

Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I think of the. I wonder why the shape of it. I mean, I've heard that insult.

I've heard that insult my whole life. I never took a moment to really consider, okay, it might not be the norm for heads, but why is it notably worse?

That is so interesting because you're thinking of the shape, and I just always thought, yeah, it's sort of like it's dense. It's kind of like a big, dense block, but you're right. Why does it have to be squared at the corners? I don't know.

I'm going to look this up. Okay, well, I'm going to keep talking about this lawsuit against Apple, which is the part of it, again, that jumped out at me was the DOJ and these states are making the argument. That essentially Apple has done a bunch of things to try to make it harder for people to switch out of the iPhone. And one of those things they've done is intentionally make it so that when someone who's not using an iPhone texts a group of people or a person with an iPhone, the text is green and that this is a form of social shaming that affects particularly young people. And when they surveyed young people, they found that those who had non iPhones were reported at an extremely high rate that when they can get another phone, it was going to be an iPhone. And those that had iPhones reported at an extremely high rate that they had no plans to go away from their iPhone because they didn't like being that green bubble. And the other thing, Andrew, that they said was Apple, they allege Apple is intentionally making the videos worse when you send them from an iPhone. Oh, that's true. To a non iPhone and vice versa. And I never took a moment to consider this because sometimes when you and I send each other stuff, it's very tiny.

Yes, it's tiny. It's almost it's almost useless to send me a direct video as like an attachment via text. Yeah, that is.

And I I always assumed that was just some sort of formatting quirk. I literally never put it together that this could just be Apple throttling the service experience for both of us. So as I guess to try to get me to pressure you to get onto an iPhone, like I just thought, gets weird. Sometimes I send a video and it's just a tiny little thing. And it's like, well, of course, they're going to try to make it worse so that people will then have to shift over to iPhone or not shift out of it or whatever.

You know, you said something that because I sort of set up earlier in the show, my question about this, that I sort of couldn't get my head around. And I think you just answered it because you said it's more of a deterrent to leave the iPhone universe, because here's my experience with it. Like, I know that for some reason that I'm never quite clear about when you're in a text group or something or sometimes it's not even a text group. It's just you're texting with somebody and you're an Android person and they're an iPhone person. And the iPhone person will sort of get eye rolly or be like, oh, you're on an Android or something. But from the Android user's perspective, with the exception of some things like the video sucks or whatever. But just from the texting perspective, I don't see green. I don't see anything that seems out of the ordinary. So, therefore, it's only the iPhone user's experience of like – I actually – I use this example talking about my looks at the beginning of the show. Like you go through life. You look in the mirror, but you're always looking in the mirror a very certain way. you know probably as you're combing your hair brushing your teeth or whatever but then every now and then you see a photo of yourself like in the background of a of a shot or something or you catch an accidental reflection of yourself and you're like whoa whoa whoa this is how the world sees me and it can be a little bit shocking if you're not uh incredibly good looking like me um and i sort of feel like that is sort of the similar thing with texting if you're on an android if you've never had an iphone you don't notice anything weird or different or anything you're just texting with your friends but if you're somebody who is already in that iphone universe and for some reason you don't like like what is i don't know i don't understand what the downside of having a green bubble is but if there's some sort of social stigma attached to that and you've already seen what it's like as an iphone person maybe it like keeps you from leaving that platform which i think makes a little bit more sense does that make sense from my perspective because i've never had an iphone so i'm like i don't know what the big deal is that's really interesting so you

don't have like you know samsung and these other phone manufacturers uh it doesn't sound like they're doing anything to make the adherence to their phone plan i.e like you and genevieve

Like they're not they're not othering the iPhone users the way that the iPhone is othering the folks like you. Right. Yes. I wonder why that is.

And well, here's one thing that adds some complication to this. And I don't have all the answers. And the thing is, I know that we have some listeners in the audience who have all the answers on this. But there is something about the sort of end to end encryption or something that that kind of affects both iPhones and now I believe Androids as well. in the past couple of years if I am texting somebody else who has an android actually the bubbles are a slightly deeper blue or something like that and you can sort of see that the other person has checked it or that at least it's gone through the transmission has gone through but it's like Genevieve has an android and sometimes when I'm texting here I think depending on what network she's on sometimes I get that sort of advanced text look or it just looks like i'm texting somebody who's using an iphone but the difference is so insignificant to me i know there's some back-end stuff that you and i are probably not prepared to get into here um but like from just the i hope we never get into back-end stuff i'm prepared to never get into that um but i uh but hey this is one of those i can just say anything because there's no picture of

me because my picture is something that says imaging edge webcam and it's backwards is that you see on the screen?

Well, it's both forwards and backwards for me. Maybe this is the jankiest thing you can imagine.

The world that we... I can't change it, by the way. I've been trying to at least just go to a blank screen, but what I'm learning from our system is it says you can turn off the camera while recording, but you can't switch cameras.

There is an irony that you got a camera set up that is so fancy that you can't use it. There's something kind of ironic. Could God microwave a burrito so hot he couldn't eat it, Andrew? right exactly but um but anyway yeah so i i got i got into the weeds there i just kind of wanted to acknowledge that because i think we're going to get we're going to have some people spilling a lot of ink explaining to us the sort of back end encryption and communication and so just but i'm speaking just from the perspective of a user who doesn't care too much about that shit like it just doesn't it hasn't been a huge thing when we were on text chains and this goes back a few years like if you like put a heart on a message or a thumbs up on a message it didn't appear that way to me then that was a pain I would get a separate text message that said Luke liked a comment Luke disapproved of a comment David shook his head or whatever you know what I mean as we're watching a football game it is like it was all these disembodied texts that really sucked but they changed that up I think a few years ago so I don't know my my experience is a little bit different but again maybe it's because i've never been in that apple world the other the argument

from apple around a lot of this speaking of you're talking about like text and encryption and things like that their their argument is that a lot of this stuff like one of the things that the doj is saying is they don't allow other digital wallets to work on the iphone and so that's something that makes it less likely that someone who has an iphone would change over i guess the the idea that you can't change your sort of the money that you use on your phone is somehow seen as a disincentive to changing which I actually don't understand that argument seems like if you're using your I guess they just feel like it's a stickiness thing like by Apple forcing you to use Apple Pay when you're using an iPhone that's just one more connection that keeps you there and the reason you have to use Apple Pay is because none of the other things work what's interesting apparently is the other things you can download them whatever your other phone payment system might be but there is something in the chip in the iphone that doesn't let that system talk to the little tap device at your local am pm or whatever and so it's like you can i guess you can get it on your phone but it won't work and so that's one of the things that they're also saying the uh apple has done is basically just like may and also you can't right now you can't stream video games on your iphone even though the iphone is powerful enough to do that you have to use some sort of you know Apple as an intermediary in a certain way and they're alleging that Apple has done that because if you can just start streaming stuff on your phone then the iPhone becomes less important to the process it's just a vessel through which the gaming passes and so anyway that's what then and then Apple is saying particularly when it comes to the pay stuff they're like look we're trying to keep everything safe here we're trying to keep everybody's information safe and encrypted and the reason that we differentiate between uh you know iphone text and non-iphone text is because that's something that's not as encrypted as ours is or not encrypted in the way ours is which i don't you know there's probably a little bit of truth to that but also i mean they're a company that wants to make money i'm sure that they're not missing any chance to like put their thumb in the eye of the other the other the last thing that apple says uh too is like uh that the doj is looking at this from the wrong perspective They're looking at it as like an American thing. because iPhones are pretty popular in America. But if you go like globally, the iPhone is way less popular than the other phones. It's not the dominant phone in the world. And so talking about iPhone having some kind of unfair competitive advantage, if you're talking globally, it doesn't really add up is their sort of argument.

I want to give you one real world example that hits me where I live. And it's about, so generally speaking about this, like again, not as an iPhone user, I don't have strong opinions on this other than I generally feel like all of these huge tech companies should be regulated more. I'm just going to default to that. So, like, I'm fine with that. It sort of sounds like the DOJ is taking a pretty big swing on this particular case, which kind of worries me a little bit. But generally speaking, leaving Apple out of this for a second, but how consumers like me get affected when these rival big tech companies battle it out, I am somebody who, as you know, uses an Android. I'm also somebody who is an Amazon Prime member and Genevieve and I both have like an Amazon logins and we use Kindles and Kindle apps. Right. And actually, this is one thing you don't have to do it. It's not illegal or anything like that. Like there is a way to share your Kindle app bookshelf sort of. So in other words, if Genevieve bought a book on the Kindle app a while back, I can access that in her library and read it myself. I don't have to rebuy it, which makes a lot of sense. We're in a family. We have this family situation, right? We have a family situation. Yeah, you do. Something I've been meaning to tell you. Okay, and I know we're tight on time, but let me try to explain this. It used to be that if I had the Kindle app on my phone, which I do, and I read it squinting with one eye as I fall asleep every night before I start reading the alphabet backwards, I'm reading my book. If I get to the end of the book and I want to buy another book, all I had to do was open up the Kindle app, go into the Kindle store, and buy another book. But Google, who controls the Android phone, doesn't want me using the Kindle bookstore. It wants me using the Google bookstore. So Google ended up, they got in some sort of loggerheads, actually, to go back to that, which came up earlier when we were talking about blockheads. They got into some sort of dispute, Google and Amazon did. And so now Google will not allow me to buy books in the Kindle app. I have to like go online, like use a browser either on my phone or on the on the computer or something, and then buy a book, add it to my library. Then I can access it via the app. But the whole thing is this is Google saying, isn't it kind of a pain in the ass to use this Kindle app on your phone? Wouldn't it be easier just to stay in the Google universe and come over here and buy our books? And I'm like, screw you. And, like, that is the type of thing where when these companies fight it out, they're just leaving us behind because they're just trying to grab every last nickel. And it's really infuriating.

Well, you were the first person to actually crystallize this for me. But search is so much worse now than it used to be. I mean, and again, I tend to just use Google because it's kind of habit. But, like, what was I trying to – I was looking for something this morning, something, like, so dumb and esoteric. I was looking somebody up because I was reading an article and somebody was mentioned, and, like, I couldn't just get the, like, article that I was – I couldn't just get an article about this. What I kept getting was that, like, poll text that's yellow that's, like, trying to just – and I was like, I don't –

The AI-generated results, yeah.

It might have even been actually around this article.

Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I was misinterpreting. They do both. sometimes they'll just like give you like yeah kind of a pull quote from an article that is that

they're referencing yes right and I mean I think that they would say well we're just trying to give the person who's searching the most relevant information they want and they don't have to read through an entire I think I was literally googling NYT DOJ versus Apple that was probably what I was looking for and instead of just getting the New York Times like the first hit being New Times article that I wanted to find about the DOJ and this thing instead I got text that was highlighted in yellow that was from this article and I'm sure that their argument would be we're just giving you the relevant information that you want the nut graph from this article who wants to read the whole article but I promise you there's something about that that is somehow better for Google they're not just giving that to me because they're like this is helpful to Luke there's some way of keeping me they're keeping their hooks in me in some particular way that i'm not even fully aware of there's a reason why search has gotten way worse yeah it's not an accident and it's not

because they love us i think i think it was chris hayes who maybe maybe i i don't know if i was listening to his podcast he's a msnbc presenter no nothing okay um anyway i don't know if he told us this

in a conversation on text after our on-air conversation or if I was just listening to one of his shows or something. But I think it was him who pointed out, like, they want to keep you on their page. Like, if Google is now thinking of itself as more than just a search engine, but an internet experience or whatever, like, why would they say, here, let me help you get off of Google and onto another site. Why don't you stay here? The water's warm.

So they're trying to give me, they're like, I'm like, hey, I'm going to go down to the pizza place and get a pizza pie. and they're like, here's a slice.

Yeah, exactly. They're sort of like picking some dust off of it.

Don't you like our pizza? Here you go. But you don't need to go down there. You don't need to go to Poker Pete's in Kalama, Washington. It's not as good. No. But it's a Red Baron. But it'll be fine because they just like, don't go over there because then you might not come back to where we are.

We have pizza at home.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that's it.

from a female oh man it's not from a female now andrew i don't know if you've got a bunch of emails or vmails dialed up here that you're really keen to get to today but i wanted to talk

more broadly about the topic of email uh okay sounds good i did have a few but they can save for next week uh because they kind of i kind of want to group these three together so uh is that okay will they hold yeah what is on your mind well what's on my mind that was a that was a

borderline Christopher Walken there was two things happening there one I kind of what was on my mind that now it's now I don't know who that turned into it almost got Walken for a moment and then I also was doing the millennia of pushing through a burp yeah yeah so two for two that's the kind of content that means we don't need fancy video editing

twyfecta two I don't know I don't know we gotta get out of here okay

what's on your mind does this look twofected um what's on my mind andrew is that we have a new email system that you i mean that our email addresses are the same as far as the listeners our listeners are more or less andrew like you texting me they're blissfully unaware of all of the technical stuff that's been going on behind the scenes at too beautiful to biz and that's been a lot of work from you and a certain amount of work from john sklaroff to migrate our kind of our our our email and our web life from one provider to another by the way thank you for all of your hard work on that i i threw almost i mean

it's best that we were not on video after the show yes i threw such a fit in trying to like solve some of these issues you wouldn't i'm sorry it's all right we're working on it i appreciate

it thank you for efforting on this um and uh you know getting your r your kpis up and your rois but um but but importantly how this affects my life andrew and that's i think what we're really here to talk about, is that under this new system, I've got a whole new lease on email life, because my inbox, as of a couple of days ago, started at a zero.

Inbox zero. It was sort of a good feeling, huh?

It was a great feeling, although in the worst kind of way. It's sort of like, I had a huge trash pile in my yard, and then instead of sorting through it and kind of putting it in, and I don't consider the emails trash. No. This analogy is bad. I'm realizing it. But instead of responding to each and every email the way that I wish I would have liked, I should have, et cetera, I just, because we have a new system and because we're using a new provider, I just started over on email. So I now have, I don't know, maybe like a handful of emails in my inbox. I have responded to some of them. I've got some music for your weekends in there. But if you sent me a message and you really were hoping that I would get a chance to read it, and either it was a music for your weekend or just something about the show, et cetera. Or you're waiting on your poster. And any of those things. Any of those things. I swear to God, you're going to be at the bottom of a swimming pool, my friend.

Wasn't that 2010 or something, your poster? I was just trying to think of the oldest thing somebody would email you about.

Probably 2000. If you're waiting for your poster, you need to re-email me. No, I was going to say, this is sort of a problem and a blessing. The problem is I don't have this long, long, long list of emails that were sort of semi-searchable under the old system. But that's the thing. The old system really sucked. And it also meant we had to deal with GoDaddy, which just from an aesthetic standpoint, I find their logo so off-putting. I'm so glad we're away from them. But what it means is if, if you sent me an email in the last couple of months and it was an important one and you really like to, um, put it at the top of my box, this is a great time to do it. There is not a lot of competition and I am trying to practice better email hygiene. Andrew, I'm trying to report a spam right now. I'm trying to train my dragon and get this, um, get my new email system to, to kind of like deflect the spam and prioritize. the good stuff and i am i'm i i'm i'm not claiming i'll be successful but i am going to try to um you know stay a little bit more on top of it because i've had this i've had this gift of starting over on my inbox but also if you emailed me something three weeks ago and you're like huh i didn't hear back from luke i don't even have access to that right now so you might want to resend that to me and this is a good time to do it because there's not a lot of competition yeah

that's right it'll stand out yeah i had kind of mixed emotions about it because like you're not The only one. I had a pretty big archive of emails, and a lot of them were things that I just sort of responded to or didn't respond to, and they just sort of lived in the inbox. But also, I am an organized person, and so I had a whole bunch of folders of just, like, you know, things that I saved, like nice emails from listeners and then a bigger folder that had hate mail from listeners and just various things that kind of –

That's actually how we had to switch.

Yeah, and then I – you know, and then various, like, TB Telethons. I would have a folder for TBTelethon 2016 or whatever, you know, and like I didn't need a lot of that stuff. But it was interesting, like things that I had saved, I had to say goodbye to. But the important thing is I'm pretty sure the things I really needed to take over with me were the few remaining 10 of the week emails that I had. You can become a 10 of the week in the newsletter, by the way, if you just go to tbtel.net and fill out the form there. But also some quizzes. We had about, I don't know, I'm going to say four or maybe five really good quizzes we could use for summer games or winter games or something like that. And I remembered to bring those with me. Good thinking. So if we haven't gotten to yours yet, don't worry. I still have those saved. And then aside from that, like, I'm with you. Like, right now I'm looking at my new inbox, which is sparkling clean with about eight emails unread in here. They're all Blur's Days. After the show today, I'm going to add those to the Blur's Day sheet for tomorrow, and I'm going to have inbox zero again. I mean, that feels good, man. Yeah, it does.

You've earned yours, though. That's the thing. A, you had yours pretty close to zero before, and you made sure to port over the important stuff. I just kind of declared inbox bankruptcy on the whole thing, so I'm starting over. So, yeah, if you're hearing this right now and you really want to get in touch with me, Luke at tbtl.net. This is a really good time to do that. So just a heads up. All right. Thank you for listening, everyone. Thanks for being part of TBTL. We are going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. So please join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Wednesday. Stay out of the dangerous levels of wind we're experiencing here in southern Washington, if you're out here. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

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