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#4189 These Pelicans Don't Run
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#4189 These Pelicans Don't Run

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

April 22, 2024 | 01:41:31 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke found himself unwittingly trapped in a comedy situation this weekend. And he has an update on his lawn mower giveaway. Photo of American White Pelican by Manjith Kainickara
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That's funky. I like that. Thank you, yes. Yeah, that's a fun card. Where does the music come from? There's a small chip and speaker set that goes into the back of the card. Is it a CD? No, it's more like a chip and speaker set that's very small and it's about the size of your thumbnail and we just put it right inside the back of the card. Like headphones? No, this is a computer chip that's devoted really to one function only, the playing of the song when we open the card and then I guess you could say its second function is turning off at this point. Like a Walkman? No, it's not. Not like a Walkman at all.

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Alright, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Monday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. They hallucinate. They make stuff up. They show biases. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

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This song goes out to all the coffee lovers of the world.

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Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it's another beautiful day. It was so cool this morning. Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful. I was getting ready to do the show, and I was looking out the window down towards the mighty Columbia River, which, of course, I'm perched high above, and I saw what I thought were a good number of Canada geese hanging out down on the river, and I thought, that's interesting. you don't see that a lot in that particular spot and also haven't they maybe gone somewhere not canada i want to specify common misconception that we here in the pacific northwest love to disabuse people which is their name for someone named john canada i believe they're not necessarily from canada um but anyway i saw these uh geese down there and then uh they decided at some point all of them to take off and fly up into this very cool formation where they were kind of doing these like rotating I don't know, helixes or something. And then they came over the Madrona Hill studio and it turns out they were pelicans. They had black on the ends of their wings and there was like, I don't know a hundred pelicans that were just circling over the Madrona Hill studio. It was an absolutely amazing way to kick off the morning. And also, they weren't vultures. So that's good. It means we've got at least one more episode with all of you, which is episode 4189 in a collector series let the fun begin much to talk about on today's show it's a monday which means andrew and i have both been saving up all kinds of experiences experiencing all kinds of things over the weekend that i want to talk about including the fact that i um found myself oddly enough trapped in a stand-up comedy performance over the weekend jokes are really difficult i must say i often talk about my stress dreams on the show regarding stand-up comedy that's me performing it this is i guess a new stress dream has been unlocked which is you're trapped in a stand-up comedy performance or at a stand-up comedy performance that you kind of didn't fully mean to be involved in as an audience member uh also on friday right as the show ended everybody was wondering will terry and his wife show up and pick up the lawnmower at luke's house And will he have a Don't Tread on Me or Let's Go Brandon or some other kind of situation on his bumper sticker?

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Is this a thing people care about? No.

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Anyway, I do have a report on that situation, too. Oh, and we've got this guy, the longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. So explain that. It's too complicated to explain. I'll just tell you his name is Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke.

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I understand we have a lot of Barbaro tape ready to go for today's show.

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Anything you need, my friend. All you can eat. The one, but seriously. The one day where I don't come with some long tail to wind because you could just be dropping that behind me the whole time. Oh, wow. There's a really emotional one he lays down sometimes.

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Yeah, I call it sweet, sad Barbaro.

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Yeah, that's pretty good. That's the sweet and sad sauce right there. Yeah, yeah, sure. Got it. Got it. I understand. Wow. Thanks for coming. oh man all right what are we doing i really don't come to the table with much i uh did not i come to the table with too much and good then tell me well let's can we start then with the um with the the stand-up thing because i'm a little confused as to in what way you're you're uh trapped in this stand-up situation but i think you set it up that way on purpose to tickle the mind yes i wanted to

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really sweep the quarter hour and really up our tsl and um and as such i'm going to tell the whole story right after this quarter hour passes and right there um let's check on traffic with kimmy traffic on the sevens huh uh so becca and i were out for a little walk on saturday night in the neighborhood we were actually um maybe slightly outside of her neighborhood in this area that i'm i'm told is maybe called fulton which is i guess for people in portland that might be of some interest but it was a nice little saturday evening stroll we had gotten some sushi and i had i i have a complicated relationship with sushi which is that i love it and i will eat because it seems like it's kind of on the healthier side you know it's like it's a lot of protein vegetables there is rice and i think i under i underestimate the amount of rice involved and so what happens is i and often you know by dinner time i'm quite hungry and that's what happened on saturday so i ordered so much sushi and ate like a ton of it and then felt like that was too much sushi And some of it ironically might have had tuna in it So we may have had a too much tuna, too much sushi situation

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Do you try all the different sort of arrangements Do you get the rolls as well as hand rolls As well as sashimi What's your deal, what do you like?

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Well, here's the thing I try to not eat too much fish I mean, I do have it occasionally In fact, I had a salmon burger last night So I don't even know what I'm talking about But I actually don't mind veggie rolls My take on sushi is basically this Which, by the way, none of this has to do with stand-up comedy That's okay Very much I'm interested in this I told you I have too much to talk about today on the show But the thing about sushi And when I say sushi I don't know all of the specifics And I might be misusing the term But when I say sushi broadly What I mean is Some sort of item that is rolled up in rice And then in a roll and then cut into sections And that sort of what you would call sushi, I guess that has only vegetables in the middle of it when i dunk that in wasabi and um ginger and soy sauce and then i pop that bad boy in my mouth i will tell you that i do not feel like it drops off very much from in an experience standpoint from if it had let's say spicy tuna in it for me like it's all the other stuff that goes around it that i really like the most so usually when we're doing this we'll get a variety of things and maybe one or two things we'll have some fish in there but i try to also kind of go for the veggie side of life because that's just my thing but then here's the thing i do love ponzu sauce and i do have a soft spot for i guess you might call it hamachi so kind of like a certain kind of fish that is you know raw slices of the fish in that very delicious ponzu sauce with little bits of green onion kind of around it i will get one of those every time too so that's kind of my uh and then double miso always double miso to start this is how it goes uh can i get a miso do you have a large miso no we only have one size can

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i have two of those please and so they don't fill the bowl it's not like ordering a double that you just literally get two bowls i love i literally get two bowls it's endlessly confusing

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Because the people go, I have three bowls of miso And they look at it, it's two people Two of them are coming this way, my friend

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Do you go for edamame? I'm a big edamame person

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Yes, I mean, as a standard thing Although I will tell you this The time, the ROI on edamame Is to me kind of questionable Because I haven't perfected my system On cracking into it What I end up doing is basically Gumming the edamame to death to

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to get the three little guys. If only I knew how to crack them open, like Andrew cracking a pull tab at the Eagles. Just, and then, blunk, blunk, blunk.

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Weirdly, I don't crack pull tabs like that, but I do crack edamame like that, ironically. How about an edamame-themed pull tab? It's out there. I'm sure it's out there. I would go in for that. I wouldn't know how to explain it. I know I don't gum them. I mean, and again, I've put away a lot of edamame in my lifetime, so I don't know. But there's something about you. Right. Mm hmm. You squeeze like if there's three in there, you sort of squeeze the bottom as you sort of pull. I can't even I don't even know how to describe it. Here is the thing that happened.

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But this this was the this was and I don't want to throw Becca under any buses this early in the week. But she did order like it was the edamame that was like in there was some sort of spicy coating on it.

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Oh, I've never done that. I haven't either. And honestly.

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If you're leaving it up to me, I'm just saying, you know, so I wasn't enjoying the experience of overly handling the edamame because I didn't want to get too much of this gunk on my hands, whatever chili, they'd thrown a chili oil type of sitch down on this, but it's still

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a finger food because you still got to break those babies out of jail.

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And that was the whole problem.

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Yeah, no, I'm with you on that.

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I was holding it by the end of the edamame and then putting it in my mouth and trying to like with my teeth work out the little you know edamame interesting right and and like uh it wasn't very successful all that is to say we get back we get back we get back to becca's place and uh i'm really riding low in the water from all of this edamame and i and and sushi and i thought well here's the answer to this here's what's going to help i really want some soft serve ice cream now i'm not here to try to rationalize the fact that i felt both too full and wanted some kind of ice cream product because those seem to be diametrically opposed as ideas but what had happened was where the sushi place was over in the cedar mill area of the suburbs of portland there was also some kind of high-end ice cream joint and i saw lots of people walking around

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the parking lot with ice cream and it it it stirred something inside of me it's a digestif

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right so we um so we so we went on this long walk completely struck out on getting any kind of ice cream which brings me to yet another topic that i i don't need to get into right now and didn't plan on it and we've even discussed this recently on the show but i feel even more confident than ever andrew in telling you that we as a society have not bounced back from the pandemic in terms of the operating hours of just about anything like it was wild we started this walk at probably i don't know eight seven 58 p.m on a warm saturday night in portland and the number of places that you would think would be open just like from a they want to make money standpoint that were shuttered by 8 p.m. was on a Saturday night was really surprising including this grocery store this high-end grocery store called Zoo Pans that I figured if we keep walking and we keep striking out in terms of some little Menchies type of deal some kind of soft serve situation eventually we will arrive at this Zoo Pans and then I'll just go in there and get a little container of something we get to the zoo pans it's like 8 20 at night shuttered closed which i just found really surprising for a neighborhood i mean it's a substantial size store but still for like effectively a neighborhood grocery store as the only grocery store in that neighborhood where and there was as we were going like as we were realizing it was closed another car pulled up i think with the exact same plan to get some ice cream or something it was that hour of the night on a saturday when it's been warm out that you think ice cream and these people got out of their car and were like what and we were all we all just had a moment of going yeah nothing is open anymore it's really it's really notable

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yeah i don't i mean it must still just be the labor situation right like they're obviously making a decision based on like is it worth our while to stay open and pay people to be open at

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this hour and it is they're right of course it's their business they can set their hours whatever they want but i my theory on the whole thing is there was pre-pandemic or i should say really pre like lockdown um i think a lot of places whether they're restaurants or stores i'd be curious to hear from listeners who who either work in these kind of places or maybe run them for whatever capacity i think there were a lot of places that felt like they needed to stay open until let's say 9 p.m or 10 p.m just out of sort of like decorum just for the optics just because it was like you wanted

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people you were worried as the business owner that if people were suspicious that you might be or suspected you might be closed at some kind of otherwise normal hour you might start to lose the race in terms of being one of the businesses that these people think of like i think everybody was staying open open later than was actually profitable because they thought that's what you

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have to do and then everything i might find another because if i get comfortable going to the store down the street that is open later well then i might just go back there the next day too

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Exactly. Or there might be some social cost to it. Not social cost, but just what you described, Andrew. Just this idea that if I'm like, well, I don't know, Zoot Pants is always closed at a weird time. I might just start going somewhere else. And the same for restaurants. I think there was some business losses going on for a lot of businesses after the hour of 8 p.m., but they were just absorbing it because it was like it would be weird to be closed at 8.30 on a Saturday night if you were a grocery store that wanted people to continue coming then the pandemic happened everything shut down we opened back up but everyone had gotten used to this idea that like yeah you know it's 8 p.m let's find out together if zoo pans is open or not and also you add in the labor shortage and the fact that these businesses have to try to make decisions around staffing um which again it's completely they're right i'm not it's not like i think that there should be a law that changes this i just i just continue to be surprised and maybe it's because i was already pretty old by the time this happened like i had 25 years of adult life expecting a grocery store to be open at 8 15 on a saturday night like i had a lot of my in fact let's throw in my childhood in there i had 45 years of thinking that's how it was and now two years into it not being the case or four years or whatever it works out to be it still shocks me

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every time it happens yeah no there's a lot I mean there are a lot of kind of hangover effects of that of the pandemic I mean not all are bad but I definitely don't think I don't think we've settled into whatever the new normal is yet when it comes to a lot of these things I think we're

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still all as the kids say friending around and finding out exactly got it so uh as we were walking home ice cream list i realized there is one thing that is still open and it is in the middle of this fulton neighborhood this little um like brewery restaurant uh kind of cool little spot and i i i literally said to becca i go wouldn't it be funny if this place had ice cream because we've been on this mission and unsuccessful and i've been complaining about how everything's closing early and we kind of peek in and it turns out no they don't probably have ice cream but what they do have is stand-up comedy going on and that's another digestif i believe right it was it was really like it was a very kind of a cool scene it was this this place that clearly has a little stage it's a brewery restaurant um and then at on i'm sure on like you know friday and saturday nights they have some kind of live performance element i noticed there were posters in there for like singers and stuff i guess saturday nights is comedy i was so pleased that this is happening just i just love it when there is when when little you know businesses and are able to make space in a community for performance like this i don't it just feels like the kind of thing that there's also less and less of over time because again i don't know if it's a big you know if it drives a lot of profit i don't really know what the business implications are Of having this but I just loved that In the random in the middle of this neighborhood like we weren't On the big busy Thoroughfare it wasn't a place I said like comedy Tonight you know with a sign it was like Literally tucked in a neighborhood a little cool Brewery with a restaurant And five or six tables of people Watching stand-up comedy and I just was like I was heartened by the whole thing and I said To Becca let's go in and what I

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Assumed that surprises me By the way I find that I find that Take on this both surprising And charming from you I know that you like stand-up and that you've um and you know you've done stand-up you've done open mic stuff i mean before i met you i think there was a lot more than closed mic stuff which is when yeah well they said sir we've turned off your microphone one sort of led to the other yeah they turned off your mic like they turned off diane reams mic during an all contentious all staff meeting at wamu did you hear about that wait recently yeah because they i mean well wamu is another you know Oh, wow. Radio station and public media institution. That's unfortunately laying off a bunch of people again. And when that happens, you have these all staff meetings that are very that can be very contentious, especially with a bunch of people who have a background in journalism and are comfortable asking tough questions in the microphones like Diane Rehm. And apparently she was on a Zoom and was kind of saying, like, I don't understand you're saying that you're making these. Boy, I'm just really putting this out there. I'm paraphrasing an article that I think some tens were kind of sharing. around circulating but it sounded like she said like you know you're you're you're saying that you're doing you're making these actions or you're taking these actions because of x but that doesn't make sense why you'd lay this person off or this person she starts like naming names and um nobody at wamu has copped to actually cutting her microphone but apparently you know she was on a zoom call and everybody saw her mouth kept moving and no more sound was coming out while the president just sort of said we can't talk about personnel or the ceo rather said we can't talk about personnel issues and there's diane ream like literally cut her mic like that does not that doesn't that doesn't go over well in a room full of journalists who have just heard a bunch

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of their colleagues have been released she's a real kind of lion of public radio journalism for many years so that's like not that you should cut anyone's mic but that's probably the really

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the wrong one to cut anyway fun to work in a little bit of public radio but anyway i i know that i could have seen you going the totally other way on that like hey you know there's this little place that I love I love to go there and get a little bite to eat but they have comedy on Wednesdays and it's like so irritating but there's something that you're still that I think specifically comedy maybe and then in a place that is maybe unusual like that you wouldn't expect it you find that to be charming like the back of the Thai restaurant what was it on Capitol Hill Jai Thai right is that kind of the vibe you're talking about like uncovering it in these

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unexpected places i think that was part of it i think it was everything seemed closed and then there was something that was open and i was like well this is exciting because i'm you know lamenting the fact that on a saturday night you know things are not just like open and by the way the other thing that adds to this is this time of year it was not even dark yet yeah that there's nothing about going to a grocery store on a saturday night and it ain't it ain't even dark and they're closed it's like okay it's you know it's like um got it so I think it was that uh this place was still open I think I do actually really have a soft spot for um open mic comedy in particular um I I find it sometimes to be a little difficult to watch if the people performing if it's not maybe a good fit for them which is a significant portion of the people that do comedy open mic But I also kind of love it I love the energy And the whole thing So I'm a sucker for that I'm also actually a sucker for live performance If you give me two restaurants to go to Let's say Mexican restaurants And one of them says we've got live music tonight And one of them says we don't I want to go to the one with live music believe it or not Like generally yeah Like I don't I don't mind that In fact I always find it Like somebody's cool Somebody's like covering Don Henley somebody singing take it easy while i'm having um my uh you know my pizza or something i like that i find it more live performance particularly more live music i'm totally down for that it does not annoy me it does not it's not like turn that racket down it's much more like oh hey that this is extra entertainment again as long as it's not like so loud that you can't have a conversation

00:23:03 - 00:24:32 | Speaker 2:

i was gonna say yeah i do find this very shocking i mean you use don henley so i assume like Veves and I walked into a, and I know we have to get to your stand-up story here, but I actually find this very fascinating and surprising. I guess you can also lay that big caveat on there, depending on how loud it is or obtrusive it is. Veves and I were leaving a comedy show last weekend, like Fortune Feimster. I think I told you off-air we went to see it. Oh, yeah. She was taping her Netflix special up here in Seattle, and so we went to the Moore Theater. But then we were, I don't know, we were wandering around looking for a nightcap. And then I realized, wait, I'm actually kind of hungry. And we're passing this sort of like, like it looked like kind of a modern Mexican restaurant, sort of like a little, it was Belltown. So it's a little hipster, you know, probably no, no, like kind of like a little bit more like not she, she, but like a lot of fusion canal. Well, no, Mexican food, but like very young, very like like very like kind of hot servers, very young, hot servers in various degrees of undress by my by my I felt very no goose. Let me just say that I felt very old and frumpy in there. Oh, yeah. It was lower queen. Wait, no, it was free. Wait, no, it was anyway. We popped in there and I immediately was like, I don't know if I belong in this place. Actually, I should try to remember the name of it because now I want to give it a good review. I even thought about putting on Yelp how good I got.

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Was it La Cocina Oaxacania? Was it Rojo's? Was it Marisco's, Mexico? These are what are coming up when I search Mexican restaurant Belltown.

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I don't think it was any of those, but I can double check. While you tell your story, I'll come back around and tell you because I'll actually check my bank records, Luke. That's how I'll get to the bottom of it.

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There you go. Was it Via Escondida?

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But Veeves and I walked in there and we're waiting for just a couple of minutes. It was one of those moments where.

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we're looking around being like is this our kind of place also we're waiting kind of a not a really long time but we're ignored for long enough to the that I'm thinking they don't really want us in here I think I was this was all in my head yeah this is a very this is a pain point for you I

00:25:14 - 00:25:27 | Speaker 2:

think um generally at least as you've expressed to me like when you were living in LA sometimes going to a place for brunch where you didn't feel maybe like you were the desired client potentially it sounds like it's something that really can be off putting it seemed like it was mostly a bunch

00:25:27 - 00:26:28 | Speaker 1:

of like kind of young sexy people in there celebrating birthdays or whatever um but we it ended up being great and i'm gonna give them a put up when i can find the name of this place i really like my chicken bowl it's very fresh flavor is a real explosion of flavor um but uh what a fun sexy time for you walked in and what in this like i don't know three minutes while vives and i are sort of looking at each other like are we sticking around for this vives spied an open guitar case or maybe a couple of open guitar cases and a couple of microphones near the door and she's like uh-oh I didn't know what she had seen at first she's like uh-oh and I'm like what rats is there a mouse and she's like no that looks like there's you know live music here and like we just don't know you know you don't know what's gonna come come from that and then we ended up sitting down having a wonderful meal and the music was perfect it was like two people with guitars singing basically like kind of karaoke favorites sort of and a good volume and that everybody was into and some people sang along with, but it was not obtrusive. There were no drums, you know what I mean? It was really nice.

00:26:29 - 00:27:32 | Speaker 2:

My experience with live music, generally speaking, in restaurant settings is that it sorts itself out. You don't get a lot of guar cover bands because people would be mad, and that would make me very mad. If somebody was doing what we'll call heavy metal music or anything that felt loud and aggressive, I would be really put off by that I can't think of too many examples of me experiencing that What I can think of are Lots and lots of times where someone's doing Maybe not the greatest ever But a decent enough cover of music That we all already know and love You know where that's really big And you and V's were there Hawaii I didn't even do that one on purpose I'm just doing that now Well that's the thing I'll say about this Barbaro stuff Is that it's funny That there's a whole soundboard about his reactions But if you listen to me doing live wire, you would just hear the same affirmative sounds because it's what we humans actually do when we're talking to each other to check in and let each other know that we're listening, et cetera.

00:27:33 - 00:27:51 | Speaker 1:

But there's something about the way he does it. Like, I'm not the first. Obviously, I noticed it and then looked it up and there's a soundboard about it. There's something about the way that he does it that is especially notable. It'll be like it'll be at a moment where you're not expecting it and it's laden with extra emotion in a way that really comes out of the blue.

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Let's see. I've got I'm trying to find some of the ones that are that's a soft that's soft. Here's strong. Also, if something happened to a town called, you know, they would have T-shirts that said strong. They'd have rubber wrist bracelets. Are you strong? Sure. Yeah. okay so uh all that is to say i i am not put off by that kind of stuff maybe as much as you would have expected or the listeners might have expected and so and i was just i don't know i was in a fun flirty mood i said let's go in and we'll watch like i thought it was open mic comedy so i was like i don't know we'll watch a five minute set from someone i assumed it was a bunch of people Going up and trying comedy Or performance in some way And we'd watch a couple of them And then we would just kind of Drift back out into the night So we go in And the easiest place to sit And the least in the way Or the least sort of like What I didn't want to do Was go sit at a table Near the front of the stage And really like kind of Like what's the word I'm looking for I didn't want to like Signal to everyone our arrival I wanted to kind of slink into the back So we slink around the group Like I said, I think there's probably There's probably like eight or nine tables set up for this And probably five of them had people You know, a decent little room Smattering of people But they were very enthusiastic and supportive And we went to the way back where there was like a couch Like a kind of a loveseat And we sat in the loveseat in the way back Because I really, really did not want To have our arrival be noted Or our departure be noted I also, truthfully, didn't really want to buy a drink Or a two-drink minimum I didn't say that anywhere, but I didn't want to get involved in commerce either. I just wanted to watch five minutes of open mic stand-up comedy was what my brain was thinking.

00:29:48 - 00:29:50 | Speaker 1:

Was there a cover or something to get in?

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There was no cover. I mean, that's what was so great about it. Andrew, it seemed like something that could have been unfolding at the 74th Street Ale House.

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the name of the place that yeah the old the english style um just like yeah neighborhood joint no no bouncer nobody like no tickets just kind of like it just had this great community feel which is what was appealing about it so we sit down and i realized pretty quickly that it's not open mic it is a hour-long performance by a stand-up comic who has been hired to come headline this room for an hour and i also realize that there is no way for us to now leave this place without it being a scene it's it really was hotel california to bring it back to the fine fine work of don henley it was we could check in but we could not leave because if we were going to get up and walk out we'd have to go back to that front door which was to the side of the stage like coming in and sitting down it feels good for everyone it's like hey we're building this community now also then leaving 10 minutes later is like we have found this content to be lacking and we will no longer we will no longer tolerate it what i couldn't say to the room was we never planned to be here for more than 10 minutes i thought this was going to be a different scene i thought we were going to be able to just kind of like stand in the background and kind of just like take it all in for a minute and then I always wanted to be on the periphery of this experience and we have now become enmeshed in it in a way that I did not expect and the reason that I'm not mentioning the place by name is because I don't want to throw any shade there's no reason to yuck any yums I would just say that the stand-up comedian was competent, was fine but it wasn't the kind of performance For me, that made me think, oh, my God, I'm so excited that there's 45 more minutes of this. You know, like I just was like, oh, I see what's going on here. This is a this is a reasonably competent stand comedian from the area who's here to headline this show and who is doing so and doing so adequately. The crowd was enjoying it. It just wasn't it wasn't something that I was like, oh, my God, I I can't believe that we've just stumbled into this. Like I'll tell you when I did have that thought Many years ago A quarter of a century ago literally When my sister Liz and I Were in New York City visiting And we went to That Rafiki show called Bring Them Up And I knew none of these people before But the performers included Dimitri Martin Eugene Merman, Matt Walsh I'm forgetting other people That were there A real echelon of like I guess Indie comedy or something I walked into that room and thought Oh my god where has this been all my life And I need to move to New York City Just to become a fan of this production

00:32:58 - 00:35:11 | Speaker 1:

This was not the experience on Saturday night In the Fulton neighborhood of Portland It was just more like oh okay I see this Cool cool cool Now and I look at Becca and I realize She kind of just shakes her head back and forth Like we can't get out of here Because at the moment we had this realization The comedian on stage was saying Thank you for how enthusiastic you're being I know this is not really a full room But you are really bringing it and I really appreciate it It was this exact moment of like And this was Becca Whistler She was like this is not the time when we can leave He was having a heart to heart With the audience about how Though there were few in number There were many in enthusiasm And for us to just Stand up and walk out at that point The two people who had just walked in It would be the most direct rebuke of this guy's material And him as a human Probably That could have happened so we just sat down there and then i just was like well i saw on the door that it's open until nine so i'm guessing that's when it has to be done by nine no that's not like close the doors and lock y'all oh yeah sorry sorry i misspoke it's closed until nine i closed that nine closed that's what i meant to say sorry so i knew that was like i was like i think that's a hard out then we've got a hard out at nine becca goes to use the bathroom comes back and i go was there a window in the bathroom yeah i very seriously consider if there was she was like yeah actually they're pretty decent sized and they're like only five feet off the ground i would have andrew and i'm not kidding i would have gone in the bathroom and climbed out the window and left not because the performance was so bad but because that would have well first of all it would have been pretty funny but also because um i i didn't really feel like sitting there for the next now 30 minutes but also there was no way out of there so we ended up hanging out for the entire performance i ended up buying us a couple of drinks just to you know because also you know i mean wanted to support the local business i was gonna that was one night of it that was one thing that i was confused about i guess maybe it goes back to what you keep saying like you just wanted to poke your You're headed. for a second because when you said like there's no door charge and you weren't interested in buying anything there i was kind of like oh well that's interesting because it's not a community center it's a it's like a place like i i felt like if you sat there the whole hour without

00:35:11 - 00:36:12 | Speaker 3:

buying anything that would be sort of a strange vibe yeah and i wouldn't have done that i i didn't want to be there long enough that that would have to be a calculation like i feel like if you walk into a place for five minutes even if it's a small local business and you just stand in the back and you're not displacing anyone you're not taking up a table although i guess we did sit on a couch But I just feel like there's a certain amount of being in a business you can do where you have not obligated yourself to interact with them from a financial standpoint. And then there's like, no, you're here for 45 minutes. You definitely need to buy some stuff. But I was also still so full of sushi that there was no way I was going to order any food. I wasn't hungry. And so it was kind of a – it was betwixt and between. But I got us a couple of drinks and we – so I felt like we did the bare minimum there. And also I'll tell you this. You know what I actually ordered? i i ordered a beer actually an na beer an athletic brewing non-alcoholic beer which i'm a big fan of it was three dollars how are you what's the markup on that that's a free like that's what

00:36:12 - 00:36:52 | Speaker 1:

you would pay at the grocery store for that okay yeah yeah that seems remarkably low to me you're agreeing with that yes i'm i was shocked i thought you're like you're not thinking that three dollars is expensive for that in this i do i honestly think the guy was taking a loss maybe well you know maybe that's a nice thing if a if i mean because if you're mostly like a brewery or a bar or something where a lot of your a lot of your probably income for an evening comes from the the alcohol tab it's nice to know that if you have somebody who's sitting there and is going to be the designated driver or whatever you're at least cutting them a break maybe that's the mentality there maybe that should be and i really appreciate that yeah because like you know if you

00:36:52 - 00:37:18 | Speaker 3:

order a a pepsi at a bar they'll often give it to you for free or a club soda or something out of that same kind of idea so maybe that's what was going on but i appreciate that because i i am like a weirdly a big fan of na beers like i just love them for some reason and uh and so i order them a lot at places and i have noticed that some of the places they're not cheap didn't i tell you i had Like an $18 one at LAX I won't shut up about that

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It shocked me

00:37:21 - 00:37:56 | Speaker 3:

It like shocked me to my Core but anyway So I'm really I've become quite the Quite the sort of consumer Of this and the person who knows what it Costs everywhere and a lot of places Although at LAX if I was a designated driver At LAX that'd really be Something I guess I could be on my way Out of the airport I could have been like we've got to Stop at this California pizza kitchen On our way off the flight Don't worry everyone I got it I'm getting an NA Corona here or whatever it was But anyway all that is to say I loved That the near beer was Three bucks that was really sweet

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I was

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Completely shocked by that I mean I felt Like that was just giving it to me at cost If not taking a loss on it So that was a shout out to them And yeah we sat there And we watched the rest of the show And it wrapped up Thankfully promptly at nine And just as the comedian was going Well you guys have been great That was when we like shot out of our seats And beelined it for the door Because we felt like it was finally socially acceptable to do so But it was Yeah it's not often anymore in my life That I find myself literally trapped in a room With some kind of content and no way to get out of it That's usually the You know the territory of people With young children That's when you get a lot of that

00:38:38 - 00:38:46 | Speaker 1:

I was going to say that's usually the territory of people who stumble into One of your performances Who have young children. Oh, who have young children.

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Because I perform at a lot of violin recitals.

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You're a clown? Is that true?

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Well, I mean, mime, if you consider mime and clown the same.

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I do. You're the world's first talking mime. It's really, I mean, it's incredible.

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God, this is a stiff breeze. Who would put a box here? Who would put a box? How did I not see this box? What in the heck? You know, I think we might have just stumbled on something here, Luke. I think that this is good. Is it too late for me to try out for SNL? This is really good stuff.

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I only need four more characters, and then I think I'll be able to finally get my audition.

00:39:27 - 00:39:37 | Speaker 1:

Well, what would have been a really sweet story is if, like, you end up feeling sort of stuck here, but then you're like, man, this performer's really good, and then you invite him on Livewire, and then, like, you launch a career, but it sounds like that's...

00:39:37 - 00:40:00 | Speaker 3:

That's more the opposite in that when we left, you know, Beck and I were kind of post-morting, we were debriefing, and I said, like, I was like, yeah, you know, that was a good performance. I mean, it was a decent performance for what it was. I was like, the crowd was really engaged. The person was definitely like, I mean, really what I was thinking was based on the room, the number of people, et cetera, I have been in and performed.

00:40:00 - 00:40:40 | Speaker 2:

formed at rooms like this where it's gone a lot worse thanks to me i once did stand when i was still toying with stand-up comedy although i believe i was also at this point professionally doing radio in seattle like i had come back from new york i'm i'm back in seattle and i i got asked to be part of a comedy performance in seattle at um some theater on a monday night and what's funny is one of the other performers was a guy named Mark Norman who's now actually a big performer who could probably sell out to Moore Theater. But back in those days, clearly he and I couldn't because we did the stand-up comedy performance for two people. No joke, two people.

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And how were those people as an audience?

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They were good. They were very laughy because you have to be when there's two people. And it was, I mean, that might have been the last time I tried real stand-up comedy. But so what I was saying to Becca was that went a lot better than it could have. Sure, yes. But then what's funny is then, like, on Sunday when we got up, she was like, I was thinking about some of those jokes. Some of those jokes were really kind of not okay, actually. I was like, yeah, I think you're right.

00:41:07 - 00:41:12 | Speaker 1:

Not just not funny, but also based on premises that were not okay.

00:41:12 - 00:41:56 | Speaker 2:

One felt like it was shoehorning in a joke that I don't really find to be super appropriate. um shoehorning it into and i'm being non-specific because i really don't want like there's a there's a non-zero chance that the person who was doing the comedy would hear this because it's a small world and i don't want to i don't want to be mean but there was a couple jokes that i was like yeah that's not really the kind of comedy that i would trade in and then also just some jokes that were just kind of flat just fell flat and what was funny was yesterday throughout the day as beck and i were doing things she would just like there'd be like a period of quiet and then who'd be like on a run we hit a jog and she'd be like yeah i felt like she would just be like remembering the jokes and then diagnosing them and then her opinion of the performance was going

00:41:56 - 00:42:37 | Speaker 1:

down with each reassessment i've had there are movies like that i'll watch a movie and leave the theater just because i love i love going to the theater you know um just when i say funny when i say i love going to the theater it sounds like i'm somebody who is like taking photos with my playbill or or whatever whatever on broadway but no when i say going to the theater i mean going to the bombed out amc that is near me for a matinee of some marvel movie or something but anyway leaving there have been films that sort of seem like they're smarter than they are um when you're watching it and then you leave the theater and you're like yeah that is a really good movie and the next day you're thinking about it more and more and you talk yourself out of the movie i

00:42:37 - 00:43:38 | Speaker 2:

have done that before i think that's what was happening to us yesterday um it was in the cold light of day it was like yeah that wasn't great like again not that it was offensive or anything just it was like it was it i think in the moment that i was experiencing it again i was like i was impressed that it it wasn't more awkward than it could have been again as a person your bar was so low yeah my bar my personal bar was incredibly low for the event because i have been on stage and events like that and i know just how much you can lose a small audience because i've done it that wasn't what was happening on that night and so just that alone made me overestimate what was happening on stage until the next day when we and then we drove to salem um so we had a lot of car time to really break this down to really just get jason zinneman on it writing up diagnosing the latest amy schumer uh stand-up special in the pages of the new york times We're like getting really into the nitty gritty of this guy's set. Yeah. And we decided that it was pretty medium.

00:43:39 - 00:45:29 | Speaker 1:

I hate this racist comedian. He'll never work again. I'm writing letters. I'm sorry I got distracted for one moment. Speaking of Yelp reviews of a lifetime, a phrase coined by my beloved Genevieve one time in a moment of aggravation. My beloved Genevieve just tapped on my window from the outside of the house. She's been doing something lately. I can't believe I didn't mention this to you. i don't think i've mentioned this to you she's been going on little daily walks around the yard with our cat bingo on a leash do you know about this i didn't know about this bingo is not like most cats the other cats now part of his routine in the morning is you know he and bananas wake us up around seven we feed him around eight am i doing a guns and roses song there i think so i I might be doing Mr. Brownstone, but that is really how it goes. And then he'll kind of get his zoomies after breakfast. Then he'll lay down for about a half hour. Then he walks over to the door where his leash hangs and looks at the leash and looks at Genevieve and looks at the leash and looks at Genevieve. Because she almost daily now puts him in this little harness, specifically a little cat harness and this leash. and she started just by going and kind of doing circumferences around like on the outside well I guess inside our yard but like the edge of our yard the trees and everything and he just like any other cat that i've ever seen outside that is usually an indoor cat will just like kind of immediately kind of like first of all probably drop to the ground and start squirming and rolling around just by like the the over like kind of stimulation of the whole thing but not bingo he's like okay let's go for a walk and he just like walks around the yard and sniffs and he's got his little favorite spots now and so genevieve just tapped on my window and she and bingo were out there on their morning constitutional

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i have to say bingo can continues to be i think the world's best cat he's amazing man everybody thinks that their cat is the world's best cat i know bubbles isn't i mean i can tell you i could i could tell you with with peace and love that bing uh bubbles is absolutely not although bubbles has also spent a considerable amount of time on a leash and i am looking forward to trying to work that back into her life we had one bad event i think what i tried to do was too many unknowns at the same time for her which was brought her up to the house here which she had been at various points but like was not super used to she was mostly used to my place in portland so she was a little on edge and then i immediately wanted to like get her in the harness which she had been in the harness and on a leash here for a long time with me and my dad but there was something about coming back to the place and me trying to kind of get the harness on her that was just too much all at the same time yeah i should have given her like a day or two to just acclimate uh-huh anyway so we had a little setback with that but um but i do look forward to like getting that figured out again because it is really fun to be outside with your cat and if they're not an indoor outdoor cat that's allowed to just roam then how can you possibly do that and i do remember those early days of being here with like me and my dad and bubbles and bubbles just being like on her leash and chilling but we could be outside that was a really fun combo so i'm stoked that um and i'm but i'm unsurprised to know that bingo is also just like the world's chillest cat when it comes to the leash that's completely on brand for that cat we have to be

00:47:03 - 00:48:57 | Speaker 1:

um careful though because now he's kind of got a taste of that outdoor blood you know what i mean i don't mean it um directly he hasn't you know genevieve would not let him near any birds or anything like that but like there's a wildness in his eyes now you know what i mean like he knows he knows there's a whole other world out there and so i gotta be really careful around doors now he's not the type of cat so far who's like bolted who's like kind of you crack a door and he makes a run for it that's wow that was a real short one right right that's almost like a gunshot um but uh anyway so i need to be especially careful there i also want to give you an update on this restaurant i uh went to in belltown with vives they call themselves a southwestern restaurant it's called hatch cantina i don't know if that's one of the things that you mentioned when you were rattling off names it's only a couple years old and it looks like it was um launched by a kickstarter campaign way back in 2022 so it's a post-pandemic thing and they have a chef i'm pretty sure it was the chef slash owner who kept coming around like i could just sort of i could just sort of tell there was this one guy who was kind of going around checking on things and he was just like in a t-shirt and in jeans or something but i'm just like i just think that i just had a sense that he had a a sense of pride of ownership that just sort of stood out to me and he came by at one point he's like how is it and i was like i was i had like a couple of margaritas so i was probably just like great slightly tuned up yeah the food was really good i got the chicken rice bowl i cannot recommend that enough it was uh really really good again i can't explain it like the the each flavor sort of stood out on its own but then mixed together really well um and he came by and i had already had a couple of margaritas i just remember him saying like how is everything and i think with a mouthful of food i was just like it's really good like i don't almost like i wasn't i wasn't expecting good food or something and he just uh his face lit up as i um as i homer simpsoned him um so anyway i highly recommend hatch cantina in bell anytime you get cantina in the

00:48:57 - 00:49:25 | Speaker 2:

name you know it's you know it's going to be like hip yeah right yeah yeah tina the rise of cantina Yeah. I mean, I grew up with Cantina, I think, being associated with Star Wars and Mos Eisley's Space Court. Because that, wasn't that in the, is it Jabba's Cantina? But Mos Eisley's Space Court and Jabba's Cantina are different, I guess. But I always, the first time I ever heard the word Cantina was related to Jabba the Hutt. I think Jabba's Cantina.

00:49:26 - 00:49:29 | Speaker 1:

That sounds about right, because it's like the Cantina band, right? I mean, I think.

00:49:29 - 00:49:32 | Speaker 2:

That's the way, that's the reason that I had never even heard that word.

00:49:32 - 00:49:40 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly. And that's exactly what it's like inside Hatch, by the way. I told you there was live music. It was like about five different aliens. Yeah.

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Those cats could blow, man. This one being that had its lips way out in front of its head. Yep. That was the owner. Phil. All right. Let's thank some Dazzling Donors. And then I will give you, because I haven't talked enough this episode. Just a very quick update on what happened with the lawnmower. We was hoping for some razzle-dazzle. Razzle-dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle-dazzle.

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On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody razzle-dazzle.

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Hey, let's thank those dazzling donors who are keeping TBTL rolling with their donations of dough. Folks like Nicole Oswill of Temecula, California. Nicole says, I stumbled across TBTL when my oldest was beginning his three-month NICU stay. I grew up in the Seattle area, and TBTL gave me a sense of home that I really needed. He's 11 and a half now. Wow. And TBTL remains a daily staple. Thank you so much to the entire community, but especially Luke and Andrew. And please don't ever stop the TBTL extra point, even when I want to throw my phone. It's my favorite. Oh, the no point? Whoa. Nicole, that puts you in a very rare category of person Who enjoys hearing us talk about sports Yeah, no kidding It's a very niche, niche thing We do need to do I feel like we do need to roll out another no point at some point Just talk about the Akron Groomsmen Just to make Nicole happy Just because I remain I remain a person with a lot of thoughts about the Seattle Mariners And you know, in a better way than if you were to talk to me a week ago But still, I've got thoughts I was bereft on Friday night, Andrew

00:51:31 - 00:51:37 | Speaker 3:

Oh, the fact that there was no game It was a different kind of bereft It was a different kind of Mariners

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And then I was like, is it I was like, thinking Oh, I had my whole night, because I was doing all this work On the house, and I was like, I'm going to listen to the baseball game I'm going to do this work, it had this whole one Kind of plan, and then they were like For the first time since World War I Baseball game cancelled for Weather, I was like, what? and um and so i guess it was snowing in colorado it was snowing yeah literally snowed out baseball game it was like a bad combination for baseball i get it but still i was like what do i do now what i do now is listen to about six hours of pod save america and pod save the world and then just walk slowly into the columbia river um so all that is to say i i do have many thoughts about sports and you do too andrew and we should probably break out a no point at some point

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You know what happened to me on Saturday? I also missed the game on Friday, meaning I missed it emotionally, that it wasn't there. They ended up playing a doubleheader on Sunday to make up for it. But on Saturday, the game kicked off around, I don't know, sometime in the 5 o'clock hour here Pacific time. And I was just getting started with some chores, and I was doing some deep cleaning on a room here. And I was listening to the Mariners game in my headphones, and it was a good game. It was snowing at times during the game, but the Mariners dominated. But the game ended. This is on Saturday evening. The game ended around 8 o'clock. I can tell you exactly. It was 8.10. I looked at my clock, and I'm like, oh.

00:53:02 - 00:53:04 | Speaker 2:

It was right as I was settling in for a comedy show.

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And I was like, 8.10. Oh, and I'm home alone, and I'm doing some chores. It sounds like I could switch over to Kixi Radios for some good old-fashioned. Well, I thought I was clicking over for some old-fashioned radio drama like The Whistler or what have you or Johnny Dollar. But no, what was happening was more baseball, the Tacoma Rainiers playing the Las Vegas Aviators. They didn't fare as well as the Mariners did that day, but it was so great to listen to. And they're doing updates from the other Mariners farm teams and how those it's great. It is a great radio product. Luke, I cannot recommend it enough. Go to Hatch in Belltown, get yourself a chicken rice bowl and listen to the Rainiers games on Kixi Radio. That's what I'm saying.

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but only after you've eaten your tbtl that's right everything that we recommend whether it's a television program a podcast a radio show even a cantina it's all in the what's implied is that you will have already listened to that day's tbtl we're not we're not trying to create any competition there's enough competition out there as it is uh nicole thank you for supporting this program and allowing us to do this five days a week as our job it's only because of people like you so thank you we really do appreciate it and i'm really really glad to hear that your kid is 11 and a half and uh doing well um that sounds like it was a really really uh unimaginably stressful time in the early days of your association with both us and that child so

00:54:36 - 00:54:44 | Speaker 1:

thanks again maestro on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go everybody

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You know, it's rare, Andrew, that one of the listeners offers us the opportunity to not even try to say their last name correctly.

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Yeah, this listener gave a pronouncer for their first name and then said, honestly, you don't even have to say it.

00:55:00 - 00:56:47 | Speaker 2:

my last name the first name is Aicha and I if I had to I'd say the last name looks like it's Erbilgin I remember this name but that you may remember me mispronouncing it last year I don't know if we had any confirmation that I was saying Erbilgin correctly last year but we know it is Aicha and Aicha is in San Francisco California and Aicha says I've mostly been a silent 10 since I was a grad student at UCLA and heard Luke on awesome, not awesome on KPCC. Andrew, I can't tell you how happy this makes me to read. I can't tell you how happy you're making me right now on this Monday, all these years later. And that is because when I agreed to go on Madeline brand show and do this Silly bit called Awesome Not Awesome Where I would just basically riff about The news with her It was in the hopes that somebody like Aicha would overhear this And actually maybe become a TBTL listener I think this might be the first Confirmation I've ever gotten that that worked And do you remember Andrew I think I'm sorry Don't you mean Don't you remember those days At Cairo where We would be doing like ross and burbank or whatever but i but on a certain morning out of the week i don't remember which one it was i'd have to like sneak into a studio at cairo and dial up the isdn to kpcc to get on the radio with madeline do awesome not awesome i feel like there were mornings where it was not in competition with our show but it was dangerously close to our show's airtime

00:56:47 - 00:57:03 | Speaker 1:

i do remember that i also remember i don't even know how they got my number but i remember one time a panicked producer from kpcc calling me at work wanting to know where you were and i'm just like dude i don't know but if you find him let me know he's supposed to be live on the air here

00:57:03 - 00:57:21 | Speaker 2:

pretty soon too so uh i am so unbelievably glad i should to know that you were the person that that whole thing was for you and you heard it and you thought all right i'll look this guy up and here we are all these years later and you're a dazzling donor i mean you're literally

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I'm dazzled

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Aicha we are dazzled The pod's role in my life has evolved through time I used to pass the long days in the lab Listening then when I got a Real job I would listen during my commute Then I became a new mom and I'd listen while Nursing my babe and now I listen While puttering in the kitchen or doing laundry God Aicha I don't want to Overstate TBTL's role in your life but that is a real That's a real Journey that's a real arc of a life Lived yeah like in in school at ucla by the way congrats on that getting into ucla holy yeah right toledo that's no small feat but like to college listening to tbtl and then joining the the working world and then commuting and then becoming a mother and then taking care of that child and then doing the sort of domestic parts of life that come with parenthood you know like i just love that we've gotten to ride along in all those phases of Aitja's life. Yeah, exactly. Very cool. I'm so proud of all three of you and how far you've come. Thank you for being an imaginary friend. All of you hold a special place in my heart and no one I know, IRL understands it well. Aitja, that's a common piece of feedback as well. It can be our little secret, okay, that you love us and we love you and nobody else has to understand it, okay?

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If you donated the dazzling donor level we won't rat you out we won't tell anybody that you listen to this dazzling donation means

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never having to explain tbtl to the wider world right

00:58:55 - 00:59:06 | Speaker 1:

hello and welcome to top story are we over the river here oh wow we have been going on a little

00:59:06 - 00:59:47 | Speaker 2:

bit longer than i thought yeah uh i've been uh i've been i've been yammering till the sun comes up about surprise stand-up comedy shows so i'll try to keep this part short but just in the interest of closing the loop on friday uh i was talking about how i'd offered up this free it's ironic that i would use the phrase offer up which i believe is its own whole proprietary like thing uh when i wasn't using that i was using craigslist um to try to give away this lawnmower that um i kind of inherited but that was pretty jacked up and what i didn't realize was a lot of people want a free lawnmower of the things I've ever listed on Craigslist for free this was by far

00:59:47 - 01:00:00 | Speaker 1:

and away had the most responses well I finally put eyes on it um actually I have a couple of reactions to the photo you sent me I believe the photo you sent me was the photo that you used on Craigslist correct

01:00:00 - 01:00:39 | Speaker 2:

to sell it okay loved the move of having long grass but then you mowed a few like kind of um you mowed an area of the grass and then proof of concept yes and then you posed the the mower in the middle of the cut grass to show that like look i cut this grass i thought that was really cool move i was also surprised at the shape of this thing you really made it sound like it's on its last legs i didn't think those wheels were as as i mean again i'm only looking at one photo that you sent me but i i thought the thing was in way better shape than um than you described it i still think you made the right call by the way i'm not questioning your decision like now you have like better a couple of ryobis that are taking the same batteries that are going to be better for

01:00:39 - 01:00:45 | Speaker 1:

the environment it's going to make your nobody likes to buy a ryobi like this guy exactly so

01:00:45 - 01:00:55 | Speaker 2:

don't take that as a challenge but i will say if i saw that for free on craigslist especially when we first moved in here i would have bit at that too uh we know vives would have yes certainly

01:00:55 - 01:03:50 | Speaker 1:

I'm going down to the lawnmower district to get this lawnmower. I got a line on a mower. No, you're right. I think it was not as, here's what it was for me. It was expectations versus reality. So I had not interacted with this lawnmower very much, but I knew it was here. And I knew it was relatively new and that it was a Honda and that Scott, Becca's brother, had used it at some point up here. so that was what was in my mind was i've got a nice working lawn mower push mower in on the property that if i ever decide i need to start mowing smaller sections of the lawn with it that's what i'll do i'll just break that out and to go from that assumption to wheeling it out into the light of day and going huh okay actually uh the uh the cord is broken and retied in a knot and it doesn't feed through the eye bolt or whatever you want to call it and also it doesn't just start and also you know like what it was was not that it was so crappy it was so much below what my conception of it was that I just thought it was kind of a waste or you know a lost cause but in fact if you were starting from a conception of free then it was well above that so um it worked out for everybody uh involved including Terry and his wife who did show up now right as a Friday show was wrapping up I started to actually grapple might be overstating it but I did start to sort of think about um this question of like because there were so many people that wanted the lawnmower and i picked these picked these people because uh i the interactions seemed nice and and and they seemed like normal people which i always get a little weirded out if i'm interacting with anyone on craigslist and um i liked their whole story that they were up burning a brush fire at 8 30 a.m that they were having lunch at 11 a.m that they were you know the guy gave me all of his contact information right away they seem like good salt of the earth folks but the thing i've learned Living in the rural rural America Is that good salt of the earth folk Often have political views that Wildly diverge from mine And there's no reason that somebody Who seemed pleasant enough in a text Exchange about a lawnmower Couldn't also have a Let's go Brandon Flag flying off the back of their truck Totally a possible thing and I was Like if one of two things If they just don't even show up If this has all been some kind of a weird Con or just I've been being played by them I'm going to be really hurt that was one of the things or if they show up and I find everything else about them to be kind of objectionable do I just give them the lawnmower because or do I say uh you know what deal is off because so much of my life particularly where I live Andrew is spent impotently and I don't mean that in a good way driving around and seeing menacing vehicles with F your feelings bumper stickers and just like as you know shadow boxing shadow boxing with these individuals that this is how they want to move through the world

01:03:50 - 01:04:37 | Speaker 1:

there's so much of my life out here is spent doing that is spent being parking in parking lots and seeing a vehicle and just thinking what who hurt you why how did you end up in this spot with that vehicle decorated that way i just spend some and i don't do anything about it i don't leave a note i don't say something to the guy who has a weapon on him in the home depot as he's looking for siding like i just i spend so much of my life just quietly mad at people and this could be a chance where i could actually have some sort of say i own this lawnmower you want this lawnmower i don't like that you're pulling a let's go brandon flag uh be off with you that could have been a moment that unfolded and it would have for once had i would have had some leverage in the

01:04:37 - 01:04:43 | Speaker 2:

situation it is a bummer though that you get so upset about people who have you know reasonable

01:04:43 - 01:04:55 | Speaker 1:

disagreements about policy they knew luke yes like really like some people feel like feelings should someone should have sex with their feelings and some people don't i was reading about i don't

01:04:55 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 2:

know if this made it to your uh coffee newspaper

01:05:00 - 01:05:24 | Speaker 1:

reading this weekend but the washington state republicans had their like republican convention god you hate to see it officially nominate you just hate to see well well well if it isn't the consequences of my own decisions and it just became this maga fest here in washington you know one of the states where back in 2016 that sort of that that sort of um pushed back on the maga revolution

01:05:24 - 01:05:30 | Speaker 2:

or whatever you want to call it and now those people are in big trouble they yeah so now i'm

01:05:30 - 01:07:30 | Speaker 1:

just telling the whole story which i don't mean to do but like the republicans here in washington state as we know our democratic governor is is stepping down like this is a perfect time to run the man that's running for the republican party dave reichert who has like he's just like an old school kind of republican he caught the green river killer like i right i would never vote for him but like he's just an old school like he's a mainstream old school republican that would be so electable in this state especially for people who maybe are like kind of frustrated about where the state is these days but instead these MAGA nut balls like basically forced him nut bar forced him basically forced him out of the convention and they're running this this MAGA nut case and I the reason is it Lauren Culp again or is it somebody else no it's uh ellie bird or eli bird or something somebody i hadn't heard of before but somebody who's got a bunch of so explain somebody who's got a bunch of criminal uh convictions in his past good but he won't let them they tried to like the officials tried to not nominate him and remove him from the ballot because he was not up front about his crimes and he's like i will not look backward on my crimes and i will not apologize i will learn from them and move forward and and then so anyway it was just a total shit show it sounds like semi bird semi bird thank you and yeah what i say eli bird i only vote for full bird i went full bird all of that is there we go full bird only the quotes from the people who were like you know there at the convention weren't like well we're gonna take care of this issue it was just like literally one of them was and this is the whole point of all of this that stuck in my craw obviously was one person has said we're gonna make the democrats cry again in 2024 and i'm like that's what you're campaigning on that's what you're you that is that is what tears it's all just about owning the libs like that's their policy it's like it's really disgusting but what's i you know you know what no one said in the dazzling

01:07:30 - 01:09:18 | Speaker 2:

donor messages today please more politics talk from luke and andrew but that being said no no that's not me correcting you that's me trying to stop myself from launching into the thing i'm going to now not stop myself from launching into what what is what's gratifying about it those to watch it fail miserably from a from a sort of practical standpoint in so many places like michigan where the state republican i mean what's happened in a lot of these states is that the state republican party has been hijacked by the ultra ultra right wing of the party and they just uh are basically like driving the dave reikerts out and again not that i mean dave reikert has Plenty of policies I don't agree with but I'm with you Think if you don't know Dave Riker just think Like more like more Mitt Romney Than Marjorie Taylor Greene yeah Just you know that's kind of The dude's vibe and and In what they've done in a lot Of places is they've They've just to use my favorite Phrase that makes me sound smart they have Hoisted themselves by their own petards in such a Hardcore way that it's You absolutely love to see it And it's making it harder for them to nominate candidates that have any chance of winning and it's really it's very fun to watch it happen but it's amazing uh and as well because it's it's just it's just assured destruction for for these parties but the people i mean it's the problem is if you lie down with these dogs aka minimally informed conspiracy theorists who are pulling giant flags that say f your feelings if If you if that's the people that you're going to harness to to sort of like, you know, drive your political point of view, you're going to end up with the results of those people's decision making. And that involves some guy named Sammy Bird running against Bob Ferguson instead of Dave Reichert. Dave Reichert versus Bob Ferguson.

01:09:18 - 01:09:34 | Speaker 1:

That would be a that would be a coin toss. It still will be a contest. The way the primary works here, I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure that Reichert will still get the official. like i guess not nomination but he will end up on the ballot i think probably in the general

01:09:34 - 01:09:39 | Speaker 2:

you still i still see lauren culp signs out here which is oh my god that is just a that's just

01:09:39 - 01:09:50 | Speaker 1:

that's just like putting out a sign that just says i'm an asshole that i mean that's they when you run out of signs that say i'm an asshole give yourself a lauren culp sign um uh i know that this

01:09:50 - 01:09:59 | Speaker 2:

conversation is of particular interest to our listeners living in other states can you imagine somebody just in like Georgia being like, Lauren, who, what was someone's spouse is walking

01:10:00 - 01:10:11 | Speaker 1:

through the kitchen right now and they're hearing us talk about a guy named lauren culp and they're looking at their partner going this is what you're donating to what is happening right now um okay so

01:10:11 - 01:10:23 | Speaker 2:

this is lauren culp's spouse that would really be that would really be something what a plot twist so yeah was it semi bird who came and picked up your was not it was terry and terry's wife

01:10:23 - 01:11:13 | Speaker 1:

and i will tell you this they pulled in uh i was out doing some stuff in the yard the lawnmower i'd actually kind of wielded up the driveway a little bit mostly so there was a lot of confusion about my address which is bad with deliveries it's good if you're a 10 and you want to come out here please don't but like i wanted the lawnmower to be visible when you were driving down the end of county road so you knew you were in the right spot so i kind of had it positioned out there and i was out working in my yard next thing you know i turn around and i see a guy wheeling the lawnmower up the driveway to his truck and i realized oh terry is here terry and his wife are here and they're about ready to just grab the lawnmower and be gone they're tc being which is totally fine i mean that was the idea but now that i'd built it up to be this i wanted to analyze what the deal was i knew i needed a little bit of interaction and so

01:11:13 - 01:11:17 | Speaker 2:

i went out and and also what if it wasn't terry what if it was somebody who's just driving by

01:11:17 - 01:12:48 | Speaker 1:

and saw it that's a good point mower that's a good point um uh hey free dummy as jack handy says if you ever fall off a building try to go limp so maybe somebody will think that you're a mannequin and try to catch you because hey free dummy so good but um anyway uh it was a terry and his wife i did come out um i said uh hey uh this is the lawnmower and he said he would to describe them they were a couple probably maybe a little bit older than me but not by a whole lot maybe in their 50s and um they didn't have anything going on that was immediately indicating what their political worldview was um just kind of a normal couple probably in their mid 50s early 60s and um The only thing was he said, I'm guessing this is all of it. And he just meant like I'm not leaving anything behind. But I took that to be like, what, do you want more free lawnmower? Do you want me to go get a different free lawnmower in addition to this? But I said, yeah, this is pretty much the whole thing. He said, all right, great. And we shook hands. He loaded it in. But then what I had to do, Andrew, was I had to hide in my house and wait for them to pull, like, pull down and then back and then around and turn around so I could get eyes on the back of the truck to see if there were bumper stickers on there I found objective. because when I approached them, I could not see the rear of the vehicle. And as they pulled away, and Andrew, if you think I didn't use actual binoculars for this, you are wrong.

01:12:48 - 01:12:51 | Speaker 2:

I've seen the binoculars. You probably have them in front of you right now.

01:12:52 - 01:12:55 | Speaker 1:

Okay, these are the looking at boats binoculars.

01:12:55 - 01:12:56 | Speaker 2:

Oh, those are for looking at boats.

01:12:56 - 01:13:03 | Speaker 1:

These are the high-powered binoculars. They're out here in the Madrona Hill studio. Man, I can see for miles.

01:13:03 - 01:13:04 | Speaker 2:

Can you see me?

01:13:05 - 01:13:21 | Speaker 1:

Ooh, yeah. Yeah, you get rid of those pores. I have, and then I have actually a less great set in the house that I need to, just this morning when I was watching those American pelicans, Andrew, fly around, I grabbed the smaller ones and I was looking at them. Those are the ones I use.

01:13:21 - 01:13:24 | Speaker 2:

Those are my kind of pelicans, by the way, American pelicans.

01:13:24 - 01:13:25 | Speaker 1:

Thank you.

01:13:25 - 01:13:26 | Speaker 2:

Yes.

01:13:26 - 01:13:27 | Speaker 1:

These pelicans don't run.

01:13:28 - 01:13:30 | Speaker 2:

Oh, hey, I'll write that down.

01:13:30 - 01:13:48 | Speaker 1:

Why was I, long story longer, I did use binoculars. I did look at the back of their truck. There were no bumper stickers. Okay. Everything was fine. Then I thought, I don't know, maybe they're undercover libs. Maybe they're like, maybe they have an organic farm, and they're like, maybe they're the kind of people, or maybe they're just apolitical, which I would totally accept out here.

01:13:49 - 01:13:52 | Speaker 2:

They have a bumper sticker that says, don't tread on Brandon.

01:13:52 - 01:14:59 | Speaker 1:

You're like, what does that mean? I don't know. But by the way, back to those American pelicans. I don't know I had I had one of those moments this morning Andrew of kind of I got I went almost triple rainbow on it I was I was absolutely delighted by this bunch of pelicans that were flying around above my house first of all they're very majestic and I didn't realize how majestic they were and they're beautiful animals they have the back is all white that's why I thought they were Canada geese but the underside of their wing is black which is just a cool ass looking bird and and again because i thought they were geese and i saw them they all kind of flew up in this like tornado and then they got up in the sky and then they started just going around and and just cruising on the wind and kind of working their way down the river and then up and then over my neighbor's house and then eventually over my house and they were just i think because you do see birds flying like that but again it's rarely pelicans and they were so graceful and beautiful and they have such as a person who's kind of turning into more and more of a pelican.

01:15:00 - 01:15:04 | Speaker 4:

time goes on i was gonna say these are the birds with the like kind of the shape of my chin right

01:15:04 - 01:15:09 | Speaker 5:

they have the big double chin there i'm not i'm not confirming that about your chin but i know

01:15:09 - 01:15:12 | Speaker 4:

you don't want to say about mine but that that's the bird and these are the birds that bring the

01:15:12 - 01:15:24 | Speaker 5:

babies um yes yes they do they do with the or the if you or me if we couldn't afford the stork when i was growing up we got yes we had pelicans delivering our babies because we didn't have

01:15:24 - 01:15:29 | Speaker 3:

a lot of money fancy people had the stork i did forget for a second that there are both storks

01:15:29 - 01:15:36 | Speaker 5:

and pelicans that there's room for storks bring uh vlasic pickles and babies and babies that's

01:15:36 - 01:15:43 | Speaker 3:

they just have the scoop okay yeah yeah but that's also i'm fascinated with that because

01:15:43 - 01:17:49 | Speaker 5:

they're just low they're low key when they're just flying around but then if they need to they'll just like like one of those firefighting planes just re re-upping its water supply from a like a lake somewhere they'll just like go down because i assume that's what that big throat thing is for right don't they go down to get a bunch of water and then maybe some fish or some plankton in there i'm i'm i'm no bird aficionado but um man it was so so cool and then i was trying to videotape it on my phone um and zoom in on it and then it just wasn't doing it any kind of justice like if i sent you the video you'd be like all right some birds and then i just said like put the phone away burbs and i just put the phone away and then i just like stared at these birds for five solid minutes and got emotional like it was so cool and then i went inside and then i looked it up i was like was that really a pelican turns out they did not breed in uh they bred in the state of washington for a long time and then of course they didn't until 1935 they came back and they're these ones are not nesting they're just chilling down on the river by my house but like it was it made my whole morning and as um who was it who there was somebody oh it was our friend jesse case from the jesse versus cancer podcast he once wrote a tweet that i think has this sounds like an exaggeration i think it's literally got like 50 million likes or retweets like it's one of the most popular tweets of all time that says something about the to the effect of bird watching really kind of sneaks up on you and you know he wrote it much more funny than that but that was the basic idea and i've never felt like that was more true in my life than this morning bird watching really snuck up on me today and it was wonderful and i was like okay now every year i'm going to be waiting for when the american pelicans american white pelicans it might even have white in the name the american white nationalist pelicans now i know why they were in the area they were at the convention one of them two of them had a flag that said bird behind him which I thought was a reference to their species.

01:17:51 - 01:17:59 | Speaker 1:

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

01:18:00 - 01:18:02 | Speaker 5:

All right, email or female, sir.

01:18:03 - 01:18:48 | Speaker 4:

Yes, I'm looking at our options here. Okay, I am going to play this voicemail for you. But I'm going to call something. So this is from a listener. They didn't leave their name. and they are reacting to the prices of things I can't remember exactly which conversation brought this up it might have been your super expensive like non-alcoholic beer and margarita pizza at the airport I can't remember what exactly we're talking about maybe this listener will even say why she called in with this story but it's about prices at a local restaurant that is an institution here it's probably the fanciest restaurant in seattle it's called canless yeah but the um the voicemail lever describes in a way that i'm going to pause the tape and ask if you

01:18:48 - 01:19:09 | Speaker 2:

want to react to okay hey i'm uh time bandedine and this is in regard to luke's um pizza and non-alcoholic beer that he had to ask did he actually get the right bill um had a similar experience at canless luke's beloved canless now i want to pause it right there is it fair to call

01:19:09 - 01:19:14 | Speaker 4:

it luke's beloved canless i know you've been there before is it someplace that you particularly love

01:19:14 - 01:20:00 | Speaker 5:

here's what i love about it okay the building the actual physical building of canless blows my mind every time that i'm in it it is this giant mid-century cantilevered box of glass that hangs out off of kind of, I guess, I don't even know what you'd call that neighborhood, like Far East Queen Anne or something. So I do, I mean, the food is really good. It is bougie as all get out. It's wildly expensive. But why I speak about it with such reverence usually has to do with the physical building. If I hit the Powerball and I could just buy the restaurant and make it my house, I would. That's what I love about.

01:20:00 - 01:20:04 | Speaker 1:

it so much as the actual physical structure of the restaurant okay couple of questions here that

01:20:04 - 01:20:35 | Speaker 2:

are more for you than for the list finally one is did you see that they're experimenting with closing down on saturdays this summer yes and did you and i read the seattle times article about that and the ownership made it sound like hey this is like a real hit on our business but we think it's the right thing to do for our employees and i sort of had a little bit of a a luke on my shoulder saying businesses never make these decisions based on goodwill, and there's more of a reason for this. Were you thinking the same thing?

01:20:36 - 01:22:18 | Speaker 1:

Literally on my jog with Becca yesterday, we were talking about this, and I literally said to her, we were still debriefing from Zupan's being closed. It took me over 24 hours to really process this emotion. and we're talking about businesses being closed. And I said, oh, speaking of which, that place Canlis that Addie and I went to for her birthday, they're experimenting with closing on Saturdays in the summer. And I said, and I read the article, and I can't figure out what their angle is on it. So maybe they don't have one. But I've also never heard of a restaurant or a business doing something like this and costing themselves money without any other reasoning. So to answer your question, yes I've thought about this deeply no I do not have an answer I can't figure out what it is but I'll put it this way I would not be shocked to find out at some point down the line that there was some part of this that wasn't maybe the worst thing for the restaurant as well if not I'd be happy to be wrong because I think it is a cool thing to give so yeah so they've announced that they're going to be closed on Saturdays in the summer and the way that they described it by one of the owners was Our employees have not been able to have a Saturday In the summer to enjoy with their families Since we opened And it's our busiest night But we're going to try this Again I can't It just seems anathema to running a restaurant To close on your busiest night Now this is a family owned restaurant It's owned by I think the kids Of the people who founded it

01:22:18 - 01:22:20 | Speaker 2:

Like 75 years ago Am I exaggerating?

01:22:20 - 01:23:16 | Speaker 1:

65 years ago. No, I don't think you're exaggerating. And I've been to events with the Canlis brothers, and I found them to be really super likable people. And the restaurant does have a special place in Seattle. It may just be the case that they're like, yeah, we're making a good living on this. We've had this amazing thing for 75 years. We really value and appreciate the folks that work here, and we want to do this. That could totally be the answer. I've never seen it anywhere else if there was a place it would happen it would probably be canless canless or like dick's drive-in one of these like family-owned local places that's been really successful where they're just like hey i mean when i worked at dick's the whole thing was they overpaid everybody compared to what the prevailing hourly wage was and they still do and they don't have to do that but they just like the effect of having people that like working there so i could see that happening in this situation but but i could also see there being some other part of the explanation that

01:23:16 - 01:23:48 | Speaker 2:

we'll find out at some point down the road my other question for you and this is really truly leaving the listeners behind unless you're hyper focused on Seattle property I am looking to see if I can find more descriptive terms for this but Genevieve told me about this Lakeview Boulevard I want to say Luke is kind of in the East Lake neighborhood sort of near where we used to work Cairo Radio. Do you remember on Lakeview Boulevard, there was like this A-frame house that really

01:23:48 - 01:23:51 | Speaker 1:

stood out? Oh, you mean the Egan house that I was texting pictures of to Genevieve and Rodin

01:23:51 - 01:23:59 | Speaker 2:

yesterday morning? Oh, okay. So you've already had this conversation. Maybe that's why. I thought Veves just saw it on the blog or something. So it's the Egan house. You do know that it's for

01:23:59 - 01:24:04 | Speaker 1:

sale and I assume you're buying it. Well, this was my message to Rodin and Genevieve. We've got to

01:24:04 - 01:24:17 | Speaker 2:

find 995k immediately what's what's in the tbtl coffers have we cracked that open recently what do we got oh looks like we got a dime somewhere south of 900 and an apple core for

01:24:17 - 01:24:59 | Speaker 1:

some reason i don't even know how digitally we got that into the account here was the here was the chain of events yesterday uh our friend broadcast barry sent me broadcast barry is my fact check and cuz when it comes to uh seattle real estate and things that he knows i would geek out on and he forwarded me the listing for this thing that used to be called the Egan House and it's it's on this green belt that's associated with St. Mark's Cathedral which I have a long history with actually because I used to go when I was in my 20s I would go to this Sunday night service there called the comp line service which was like these um I don't know if I don't know how they get in the choir at St. Mark's what you have to do but basically this choir would sing this incredibly beautiful music.

01:25:00 - 01:26:18 | Speaker 2:

And we would, like, go there and hang out and, like, listen to the music, not from any religious perspective, just because we thought it was really beautiful music. So I've always been interested in St. Mark's. And then down the hill is this crazy A-frame house, which I think was some kind of rectory or something. I mean, I think it was associated with the St. Mark's because it was on—it's part of the property, or it used to be. That green belt, I think, used to be—maybe they sold it, maybe they donated it, I don't know what. but i've always been interested in that building um and just uh did not realize that it was something that could even be for sale to the general public but yeah it's it's um it is for sale it i mean this is the truly upsetting part about where we've gotten with affordability issues and i said this to rodin and veeves how messed up is it that that seems fairly low to me yeah yeah not low like i've got that money lying around like why don't i go ahead and pick it up i just mean like i was surprised that the number was not a million i'm surprised the number was south of a million dollars for this oh yeah and it's it's 1100 square feet it's two bedroom two bath and like honestly it's it's probably not an ideal place to live because it was not built really for like a family to live and it was probably something for like a visiting priest to stay in or something but like how crazy is it that i looked and i was like steal of a deal 995 it'll

01:26:18 - 01:26:53 | Speaker 3:

never last at that price no i think that i mean i had the same exact reaction when genevieve told me that because i mean this house is literally a work of art like you know it's not just a place to live and you look at the the prices around seattle as viz and i did when we were looking for a place to live to for a place to buy just like what was it now um almost exactly two years ago in march um yeah two so anyway yeah i mean you look at places that are just like what that thing is almost a million dollars and it's you know pretty in a pretty humble neighborhood or something so i uh i am very shocked but i'm sure that this will probably go for more than that

01:26:53 - 01:27:01 | Speaker 2:

i'm guessing that was that was vives the sense yeah i will tell you this the other thing and they didn't look put this in the listing but you know what that that that house gives you prime

01:27:01 - 01:27:16 | Speaker 3:

viewing of um the lake or well no no no dave ross parking his prius oh cairo radius dave ross that's kind of by the the stairs yeah it's by where he this is when i knew

01:27:16 - 01:29:14 | Speaker 2:

he was truly an ad hedonist as he likes to say when he explained that in the morning and this was before he used to get there at the insanely early hour he probably does now but he used to park his prius intentionally like multiple sets of stairs away from the radio station i'm talking like long kind of you know city blocks yeah going under i5 because i mean he could have parked in the lot of the radio station yeah he could have parked on the street person at that station but But he would intentionally park up these stairs, up on that street where that house is, so that he would then use the stairs and then also on his way back to his car would go up those stairs, which is really, I think, actually kind of an interesting life lesson that I have not always done the greatest job of, but at times have tried to adopt from him. One of them being, and I don't mean this as a flex or anything, and I know everyone's body works differently, but something that I took from that from him, I'm not kidding you, is I made the decision that if I'm ever in a situation where stairs are presented next to the escalator, I'm going to try to use the stairs if I don't have, you know, like a giant amount of luggage or whatever. I've just, I've tried to do that because I know that for me it's good, it's healthy, it helps me stay mobile, et cetera. And every time I do that, I think of Dave Ross because he's just a guy, a person who has really sort of set up some stuff for himself that I think has led him to have a really fulfilling and rich life where I think he's really added a lot of people to other people's lives, a lot of things to other people's lives because of how he is. And I admire something as weird as parking your car up a set of stairs from the radio station. Instead of jockeying for the ever-closer parking spot, I want to be spot 1A because I'm Dave Ross. And again, everyone's body is different. I'm not saying the only way to live a good life is to walk upstairs. But I was impressed by that and have tried to put little bits of that into my life when I can.

01:29:15 - 01:29:20 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, he's a really, really good man. But back to your beloved Canlis.

01:29:20 - 01:29:59 | Speaker 1:

I forgot we were even doing a voicemail where some friends and I went for another friend's birthday just for, like, drinks and dessert. So we go to the bar and we share, like, between six or seven of us ladies, we shared, like, one French fries. We each had a cocktail. and then we moved over to a table where we got dessert and we ordered three desserts each of these desserts was like the size of a mini rubik's cube a mini rubik's cube not

01:30:00 - 01:30:03 | Speaker 2:

A full Rubik's Cube, like a mini Rubik's Cube. Like a keychain Rubik's Cube.

01:30:03 - 01:30:17 | Speaker 1:

Like a pet of four or something. So there were three of those, and there were like six or seven of us. So you each got like a tiny bite of each of these desserts. And one person did order wine, like a bottle of wine. Maybe two bottles of wine.

01:30:17 - 01:30:30 | Speaker 2:

See, this is where the listener loses me a little bit, says a bottle of wine, and then says maybe two bottles of wine. You're not getting a cheap bottle of wine at Canlis. I mean, that's at least 200 bucks.

01:30:30 - 01:30:42 | Speaker 3:

Camu Dudu, a kind of a size, because Addie got this when we were celebrating her birthday. There is a, I don't know if I've seen this other places, but they do have a bottle of wine at this, at Canlis that is not like the full on one.

01:30:43 - 01:30:46 | Speaker 2:

It's kind of like. Or it's an actual small bottle.

01:30:46 - 01:31:24 | Speaker 3:

It's a small bottle, like with a cork in it and everything. But it's like maybe like a glass and a half or something. Or it's like, they don't, they won't come. like I my sense is because they're so fancy if you order I don't know I I forget exactly how it went down but I noted the fact that I was like that's a size bottle of wine that I haven't really seen before that was like we're gonna give you a I don't know if it's if you're getting a nine ounce pour an 11 ounce pour whatever it is they're not gonna just bring you a they don't always anyway bring you a bottle and then pour you some from the bottle here's a glass of wine it was like its own bottle but it was smaller so maybe that's what this person I don't know that would maybe

01:31:24 - 01:32:03 | Speaker 2:

make a little bit more sense because, Luke, I'm just remembering this now. I've had this voicemail for maybe a week or so. And I'm just remembering now that when I heard this voicemail, I looked up, I wanted to see if I could find a price list for bottles of wine at Canless. And I found, they literally have it as a PDF. And I'm trying to figure out if this is an old PDF because the wine prices for what is listed as bottles seemed remarkably affordable to me. Because I'm coming into this thinking i've never been to canless but i'm assuming that if you're getting a full-size bottle of wine at canless there's you're not getting that for under 200 right or 250 no i mean they

01:32:03 - 01:32:08 | Speaker 3:

probably have a they probably have a wine there for like a couple of bottles that might be in the

01:32:08 - 01:32:13 | Speaker 2:

100 150 range i'm guessing okay because i saw like bottles in like the 50 and 60 range i'm like

01:32:13 - 01:32:27 | Speaker 3:

this is maybe i don't think there's a lot going for 50 or 60 bucks i can tell you that And I don't know where the listener I have a sense where the listener is going with this But I would just say to the listener Well let me hear the end of the voicemail and then I'll weigh in on this

01:32:27 - 01:32:39 | Speaker 2:

Yeah you know I'm trying to figure out If I was looking at this list wrong I mean maybe those were expensive glasses of wine I thought I had sussed out that it was Anyway the point is it ends up being all Way more affordable than you'd think Just kidding

01:32:39 - 01:34:00 | Speaker 1:

So you each got like a tiny bite Of each of these desserts And one person did order wine Like a bottle of wine maybe two bottles of wine between like the seven of us i don't know so one cocktail a couple of fries not a couple orders of fries like a couple of french fries a couple of bites of dessert a glass of wine and then of course we split the check like oh can you bring us just split the check so the guy comes and and hands us each you know our little folder and when i open mine i almost asked the guy i almost like put up my hand like oh excuse me wait i think i got the bill for the whole table like i thought that mine was the one that like hadn't been split up yet and then i realized that no that was just my portion of the food and drink which i believe was in the neighborhood of $160 for me, and that's why I never want to go to Canlis again, except that they also had really beautiful matchbooks there, and I took a handful of them.

01:34:01 - 01:34:34 | Speaker 2:

Power out. So you got your money's worth at the end. You know what? I've never been to Canlis. You won't be surprised to hear, and I'd always heard of it. I knew it's like kind of the place to go in Seattle for like the, you know, most like kind of if you want somebody to brush crumbs away from the white tablecloth with a little special comb, it seems like Canlis is a good place to go for that. But there seems to be like a disconnect in my mind because I never knew where it was. And now I think you can see it from the E line, right? Isn't it actually you can see is it the back of it that you can see from Aurora, which is very tucked away.

01:34:34 - 01:34:37 | Speaker 3:

But yeah, you would see a sign if you're on Aurora on the E line.

01:34:37 - 01:35:00 | Speaker 2:

So I didn't kind of realize its proximity to like Aurora, which is a road that you wouldn't usually associate with like the finer things in life or a bus line that you would consider to be that you would associate with the finer things in life. I don't know what bus line you would associate with the finer things in life, but it ain't the E line anyway. So it's always a little bit of a little disconnect for me when I'm like writing on the E line.

01:35:00 - 01:35:02 | Speaker 1:

And I'm like, oh, there's the most expensive place in town.

01:35:03 - 01:36:19 | Speaker 2:

Yes, you're thinking of, you are definitely thinking of the right spot. And it is, you blink and you would miss it because it's so, and because what's really happening. And this is what I learned about houses in L.A. too, which maybe you experienced to some degree when you were there. But there are so many, because Los Angeles is so hilly. there are so many houses where it looks very understated and humble from the road if you're driving it's just like a little low wall or fence or something and like a little gate but if you were to go down into you realize oh no this whole thing is like built off this hillside like the whole the whole majesty of this house if you will or grant grand nature of it is it's all down the hill i actually always thought that was kind of cool like i kind of think in my advanced age i'm more into that than the alternative in other words uh some kind of grand place that you it's it's proudly on some hill all the foliage has been removed and it's just sitting up there going like look at me with these pillars in front of it i think it's kind of a cooler effect to go to a place and be like oh what is this and then you open it up and it sort of is there's a reveal there yeah canlis is very very much of that situation that reminds me very much of like kind of like

01:36:19 - 01:37:14 | Speaker 1:

the noir feel of la like from old movies or even like kind of neo-noir stuff it's kind of like you go through this little gate and then then you see it either below you or above you sort of tucked away these incredibly beautiful these incredibly beautiful buildings and homes and whatnot that is one thing i like about la it's also like la i i think i didn't like this at first but i think i came to love it is that like you said some of the most incredible places can also be next to a vape shop you know what i mean like it's not zoned in this way where everything is separated like some of the most beautiful places whether they're homes or establishments can be next door to just like mike's sandwich shop or whatever like it's very chicken yeah it's all it's all mixed up which i think is a better better way to probably design your city i think yeah la gets a lot of grief for

01:37:14 - 01:38:25 | Speaker 2:

poor city design and and there are some real examples of that too but i do like how a lot of the best restaurants are just in strip malls and also la has really in my opinion sort of not redeemed but like i just don't think people are snooty about strip malls there like a lot of the best stuff is just in a strip mall and by that i just mean like a low slung one-story mall in you know a neighborhood like los felis or or wherever you might be talking about like it's very common and i hadn't experienced that either like i felt like where i was from if somebody was in a strip mall it was like that's gonna suck unless it's the mandarin gate but um but like yeah i like that about la a lot that it's uh like you said there's a real you can find something really that's really amazing right next to something that seems a little more humble on paper yeah um but that's cool so yeah canless um i i will i don't think we'll ever get a an answer to this question andrew but i would love to get an update some someday about whether or not this closing on saturday thing was purely to take care of the staff or whether there were some other element of the story that we were not all picking up and again i don't think we'll ever probably get

01:38:25 - 01:38:43 | Speaker 1:

an answer to that yeah i mean ulterior motive is maybe a strong word but i just believe there's more to it than what we read about in the seattle times and i can't remember if it's one of our friends or acquaintances who wrote that particular article but it definitely was a valentine to the

01:38:43 - 01:39:20 | Speaker 2:

to the establishment i would say and it may also like the ulterior motive might be retaining our good staff yeah yeah like in other words we it's a very competitive world and if we can offer people the opportunity to not have to work on saturday so that they can go do fun stuff on a saturday that will be appealing enough to keep people around and also it might be like instead of paying everyone an additional ten dollars an hour we can entice them with no saturday work and we've crunched the numbers and we've basically figured out that this nets out like the ulterior might motive might simply be they feel like it's a better business move for them yeah but the idea

01:39:20 - 01:39:24 | Speaker 1:

that's great actually i mean that would be wonderful yeah the part that i get hung up on

01:39:24 - 01:40:09 | Speaker 2:

is the idea that it's a worse business move for them which is how it was framed in the paper we're gonna close on our on our busiest we're gonna close on our busiest night that's just like well goddamn get down off that cross brian canless right you're just golly you're bleeding out up there right right that's that's the part that i'm like i wouldn't be surprised to find that counter-intuitively it made better business sense to do this yeah in some way it has to yeah so all right well it makes good business sense for us to stop talking because i think we're at the i can't even my clock can't even go that high anymore

01:40:00 - 01:40:05 | Speaker 1:

Andrew, of where we're at. Yeah, we're over. Two minutes and 16 seconds into the show? God, it felt like longer. What happened?

01:40:05 - 01:40:08 | Speaker 2:

Maybe have we gone all the way around the time cycle?

01:40:08 - 01:40:12 | Speaker 1:

I think at 100 minutes, my clock turns over. Oh, my goodness.

01:40:12 - 01:40:26 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're getting close to two hours here, not quite two hours. But, you know, we're doing something later on this week that I won't mention here, but I don't see any reason why we can't maybe promote or talk about on tomorrow's podcast. Yes. What we're doing later on in the week. We have a special show coming up later on.

01:40:26 - 01:40:27 | Speaker 1:

It's going to be really fun.

01:40:27 - 01:40:27 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

01:40:28 - 01:40:44 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, we'll hype it tomorrow. Some special programming coming up, which you all are going to be, I think, very excited by. So, all right, we'll talk about that tomorrow and I'm sure a bunch of other stuff. Although the Mariners don't play tonight either. So it's like, come on, we can't have a Friday off and a Monday off. What am I supposed to do with myself?

01:40:44 - 01:41:03 | Speaker 2:

You will be happy to hear that the Akron Groomsmen, for the fourth week in a row, dominated the foe and remain in first place. although I am now playing our dear commissioner this week and I am running into a buzzsaw I'm afraid but we are undefeated so far

01:41:03 - 01:41:12 | Speaker 1:

excellent alright thanks for listening everybody we're going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio in the meantime have a great Monday go TBTL little sluggers and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

01:41:12 - 01:41:25 | Speaker 2:

first of all I'd like to see the chef face to face these are the best Cajun chicken niblets I've ever had power out

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