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This is stuff so funny, by the way. Did the comic come up with this? Because some of this stuff, like, I feel like I could see somebody doing it in their act, right? A duck that's friends with a monkey who he can't swim, that's hilarious. That's like something I would do. I would be like, could you imagine yourself being like a duck, but you don't want to get in the water? Yeah, that's the way I feel every day when I hop on the 48th freeway.

T-B-T-L Guess what day it is Guess what day it is

It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend

All I know is this violates every canon of respectable broadcasting

You like are definitely You're the real thing that a lot of people say So do you think if you weren't I mean, if you were less fake, do you think you would be, or you could, or you have a desire to?

Meat from the street sounds like a fun treat. I'm a poet and didn't even know I was rhyming those words, but it happened anyway.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

They're busted, corny, and they wouldn't dream of taking their shirt off in front of a woman.

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. It is our turn. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful.

Which also means that Farmer Burbs has to really be on the lookout for a new animal menace. that I am dealing with out here in southern Washington. How about, like, pranking an animal? But honestly, I'm very conflicted about the whole thing. Because I'm being menaced by an animal that I also find pretty adorable. I don't know. Maybe Andrew will know what to do. I do know that we're at episode 4,208 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. On yesterday's show, we ran out of time before we could talk about the sriracha shortage that's sweeping the states.

mm-mm-mm, I'm flying in hot for that hottie.

A lot going on in the world of peppers and sriracha and competing pepper sauces and things like that, and we're going to talk about all of it today. And we're going to bring you some music for your weekend because it's a Friday edition of the program. First, though, we've got to introduce this guy, longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He regularly shotguns a small... It's just how he gets ready for the show, a small little shot glass of sriracha before each program. He just did it, just a moment ago. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke.

I have a real-life Jeopardy question for you. This was sent in by our friend and listener, Susan, and she just sent me a photo of her television screen, and on the television screen is one of those famous blue boxes with white text and she said nobody got this right on jeopardy are you ready for the answer

oh i'm wait yes the answer and i will give you the question yes exactly so here the the answer is

the last dramas of the golden age of this suspense and yours truly johnny dollar ended their runs in 1962.

It actually goes on longer, but I don't think we need it. You got that right away. Is it radio dramas?

It is radio. I would guess it's the golden age of radio or radio dramas. Yes. I do feel like, you know, seeing it written out, it's fine, but without the visuals and me just reading it, it is a somewhat convoluted way. I guess that's the whole point of, or I guess that's part and parcel of asking these things as answers instead of questions. But the last dramas of the golden age of this, Suspense and Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar, ended their runs in 1962. too suspense is also of course one of the uh radio dramas that i liked it's much scarier than yours truly johnny dollar but it's good to see yours truly johnny dollar also somebody sent in that it apparently has a strong presence on satellite radio as well so i'm glad it's doing well in 2024

i'm i'm i gotta be honest with you so the answer clearly would be radio the golden age of this

is that indicating that the time when TBTL and then later the Andrew Walsh show were on from 7 to 10 p.m. on Cairo, that that was not the golden age of radio?

I don't know how TBTL fits into this when you guys were on the radio, but I do know that not me, but other people sort of in the radio industry and fans of radio called it the renaissance of radio. And they kind of said that the Andrew Walsh show sort of heralded, the words they used, not me, was the Andrew Walsh show heralded in the renaissance of radio so that's what that that's what that period between late 2013 and

they described it as a renaissance fair of radio because you were always eating an oversized

turkey leg and i was while doing the show and i was cosplaying as somebody i'm not which is a radio

host exactly um uh do you know the story behind and did i just tell you this i don't know a month or two ago when i was doing that story about jeopardy and ken jennings the origin of the giving the answers as the questions i feel like you did tell me this but the good thing is on the

air i have a goldfish brain so you can tell it to me again and i will be just as delighted to

remember yeah so the story goes that merv griffin and his wife were on a i think on an airplane and he was trying to come up with his next great idea for a show and his wife said well do another quiz show and he said oh they give they like those are rigged they give them all the answers right right because i believe that that was the issue at the time was they were coming out of the quiz show scandals and his his wife uh quite wisely said well that's it give him the answers and then they have to give you the question and then the the answer that she gave was like one two three four five wisteria lane or something not exactly that but something like that and what she was giving him was the address that the radio show uh fibber mcgee and molly lived at uh-huh so she said you You know, like, just give them the answers, Andrew. What is, put it on a poll, Guillermo. What Dan Levitard. A thing they say on Dan Levitard. Exactly. What is a thing they say on the Dan Levitard show? So that was how that came about. And, you know, as somebody who's really loved Jeopardy over the years and watched a lot, thought about it a lot, I didn't know that was the story on how the sort of structure of the game. And also, you'll be happy to know that over the course of a few days where I was on the set at Jeopardy and interviewing Ken and really, really kind of just immersed in the in the experience, I still screwed up that whole answers and questions things roughly a hundred times. It's a hundred times. I said, well, when they ask you the questions and Ken would say, well, the answers. Yeah. Oh, is that what they're doing? Are they still doing that?

I hope you kept making that mistake and they'd make a super cut of him correcting you on the on the set for the CBS story. are you Luke I promise you I am more than willing to take a reasonable no as an answer to the question I'm about to ask you and I will be asking you a question are you at all interested in knowing my emotional journey of trying to break up with the Dan Levitard show because it's just occurring to me now it is it has been a journey

I think it's very interesting to our listeners I mean it's interesting to me but I actually think it's whereas like when you and I sometimes just either repeat something or reference something we heard on either stern or lebitard i don't know if that's the best content i think your deep connection to this radio show that you spend hours a week listening to and now trying to break up with it is very relevant to the people listening to this because i think that they have probably some of them have been through a version of this although i guess if they've taken it all the way to totality they're not listening but you know what i mean like this i think these are a group of people that are hearing my voice right now who can identify with having an intense relationship with a daily radio product and how that makes you feel sometimes euphoric sometimes very frustrated well yeah because i'll

take that as a yes but i will try to make this brief because i i i want to i want to hear about your your garden foe but um i find myself in a weird position that is really hard to talk about and you're right maybe it's only the listeners of this show or people who are or have have a similar relationship to like kind of daily shows like this um who can relate to it but then also i hesitate to talk about it on this show because i don't want to encourage people like right because literally like as i was sort of thinking about this recently it's kind of like a strange addiction i mean not an unhealthy addiction but essentially the dan lebitard show doesn't just release a podcast a day like we do they release kind of like just tons of podcasts a day it's like they break them up and they're under various categories and it sort of makes

sense when you listen for a while but it doesn't it doesn't really matter essentially though they're dropping five different podcasts a day that are all the key players in the show and some of them supposedly focus on more local Miami stuff some of them supposedly focus on other things but generally speaking it's just like a stream of content that is usually about two to two and a half maybe hours a day or three hours a day of content that I can just constantly sort of like catch up with but there's always plenty of backlog to listen to and it's just kind of a constant drumbeat of of when i of my puttering essentially and the show has gone through major changes i think if you were to you listen to the show long before i did luke and i think if you were to drop in today you wouldn't even recognize most of the people or the conversations i think it's changed a lot since they left espn went through the pandemic started their own company and some of it is really good but I think so I mentioned to you the other day that like the one thing that I kind of don't like on the show is when Dan Lebitard sort of talks about comedy he he sees himself as a real lover of comedy which is fine he's not saying anything offensive by the way he's not I'm not I'm not boycotting the show because I feel like he he or anybody on the show are saying anything wrong or bad I'm not trying to vote with my feet here or my wallet or what have you it's just sort of he they were in another conversation the other day where usually I would just sort of skip it i'm like you know i kind of don't need to hear dan's like over uh what's the word i'm looking for sort of um i need to say like and um more so we have yeah fewer awkward moments on the show it's sort of like tortured relationship or over arch relationship with um with uh comedy and how he views and it's very different from how i see it and it's fine but it just it's not like i I just find it annoying. I'm sure Howard Stern is like this for you, Luke. Oh, yeah. It's like you like him. You like most of it.

Actually, on a lot of topics. Yeah, right?

Do you ever find yourself like just fast forwarding by like a couple of minutes? You're like, you know, I don't need to hear this.

I find myself pausing the show and then out loud arguing with him and then unpausing the show, which I'm sure our listeners can relate to, although they are more likely to throw their phones as a reaction. But, yeah, no, I totally can identify with that.

And that's fine. And again, like, I don't think everybody has to like every minute of the content that they're consuming if they generally like it. I would certainly encourage people to have that attitude when it comes to TBTL. But because there's so much content from the Dan LeBetard show and because the show is sort of kind of always evolving, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. But it's almost like several years after launching their own company, they're still trying to figure out what they're doing, sort of. They've also made a huge shift to sort of video and YouTube. And so it's getting more and more like referencing things that you're seeing. And then I tried to make that change with them and I tried watching them on YouTube, but they don't do a good job of like replicating the exact podcast order on YouTube. And it gets very frustrating. It's like I can listen to the full shows and audio. But if I hop on over to YouTube, they're chopped up in a funny way. But then I can see the video formats. And there's just been times where I feel like there's friction between my sort of conscious desire for audio entertainment and my unconscious desire to just kind of constantly have this thing on in the background. And then the other day, as I was getting more and more annoyed on this segment about comedy, and then I'd fast forward for a while. Then I skipped a whole episode and went to the next one, and they were still talking about it. I was like, you know what? Maybe it's just time for me to take a little break. And then in the time that I took a break, I started to ask myself, how much do I like this show anymore? Or is it literally sort of like an addiction?

Now, this is getting too close to the bone. Just be careful. You're putting your hand very close to the burner.

No, I know. That's why I was willing to accept a reasonable no and just go right into gardening talk with you because you've got to be careful with this stuff when you're sitting in the chairs that you and I are sitting in for sure. But I really did start at, like, there was a goal, like, I feel like maybe about two years ago, they were having Mike Schur on literally every day for segments that were so good. He's so funny, but also so smart and so thoughtful and has great stories. So it was almost like he could come on in one of various roles on that show, and it was always good. And that was, and of course, it's Mike Schur. Like he can't be on. Of course, we're talking about the creator of The Good Place and worked on The Office and other, you know, he's one of I'm looking at his book right now. How to be perfect. Exactly. And his segments were perfect for whatever that's worth. And so anyway, so that's gone away, which makes sense. He's a very busy man. And I just started thinking, like, where this show is right now, like, how much of it am I enjoying? Like, even talking to you now, I'm thinking, OK, Stu Gatz's weekend observations. I guess that's one thing I legitimately miss. Maybe I should just listen to that one. that one do they break that out they don't totally break it out but I think they will maybe list it in the show description so maybe I can listen to like

like just that 45-minute chunk of the show every week. Maybe there's a way I could do this, but there's something about my addiction to that show where it sort of felt like all or nothing. And so because of that, now it's baseball season, so I've been listening to a lot of baseball, and now I am listening to a lot of Rainier's games as well. So unless the Seattle, who do we root for, the Mariners? Unless the Mariners.

Junior Mariners sluggers.

Unless the Mariners and the Rainiers are on it at the exact same time, I can almost take in like a game, a game and a half on the radio, two games, depending on if the games are staggered. So there's plenty to listen to there. But I really have found myself, especially now I've gone started going back to the gym a few days a week. And the Levitard show was always a huge part of that for me. Like that was when I started listening and how I think I got addicted. It became very much part of my of my routine. You start listening to it on the way to the gym. You listen to it at the gym. I can't tell you how many great almost like driveway moments I've had. Only they're like locker room moments listening to The Levitard Show. Full of locker room talk. Yes, especially from me, Luke. Yeah, I know how you get. You and I have never been in an actual locker room together, I don't think. We really haven't. I am a very different person. I mean, towels are snapping. Yeah, yeah. Things are coming out of my mouth that you would be shocked. Well, it's just locker room talk. It's locker room talk, exactly. my only locker room talk is please leave me alone please don't look at me please don't look at me um so anyway lately there have been times where i'm like well what should i listen to now and i sort of thought like this would open me up to a lot more podcasts because people are always saying hey have you heard this podcast have you heard that one have you heard that one and i'm always

like like i'm in a long-term committed relationship exactly with the lebitard show with with with a

podcast that takes up a lot of my time and and that's the type of stuff i like it's more like radio or traditionally has been more like radio you don't have to hang on to every word it's not like a really close narrative it's not a crime drama in real life or whatever it's not prestige audio exactly and so i have been listening i've been listening to a lot more pod save america like i kind of binged a bunch of that yesterday oh by the way i know you like that show too or you're kind of getting into it or maybe you've been into it for a while um but i'm now blanking on her name sake what's her first name who is uh by jen sake jen sake uh she has a great conversation that i think posted yesterday luke i can't recommend it enough okay i'll listen to that so i'll like kind of go through little phases where i'll binge that and some people have been sending me recommendations like our friend anna you and i in this show we're talking about um some experiences i had recently kind of running into people who were having mental health crises like on the bus or whatever and how i you know i i really feel for those people um and there were some kind of shocking moments and so um i didn't realize that kow along with the seattle times and npr put together like a really great six piece um podcast all about and it kind of focuses on washington state although it's global issues of just like the the kind of churn of the of the mental health health care system and the courts and just how it's sort of a hopeless situation for a lot of these people who don't have resources but but struggle mightily with this stuff and so i'll listen to a little bit of that like there's so much good content out there but sometimes like when i'm at the gym i don't want to listen to a serious thing that is journalistic you know what i mean and it's it's still like there's there's so much content out there yet there are times when i open up my app and i say should i should i just listen to a little bit of levitard but i sort of act in this is the weirdest thing i actively say don't do it because it it's almost like there must be a food like this for you luke that like you don't even like it that much but when you start eating it you eat too much i don't know why i'm putting that on you it sounds like something that you would describe right and that's sort of what i don't want to get back into it's such an easy habit to get into that i'm actually in the in the somewhat difficult phase right now of trying to break myself of this habit not that it's bad for me but i just think that there are other behaviors that are better for me but it's it's more difficult than I expected right like the it's it's it's like

any relationship where it's easy to just kind of go it's easy to maintain the status quo because it's we were talking about this the other day with like you like just limping your computer along instead of doing the research to buy a new computer and change all your systems over it's easier to limp along a relationship with something like that show for you and just be annoyed a lot of the time than to like a consider your life without it because that's like a big hole in your day and and there is a parasocial thing going on there where you feel probably kind of like you know the people because you listen to them so much and then also the the well then what am I going to listen to you know and like you don't know what that new I I have my version of that is really more like and this is something that I bet is very relatable

for the tens i hope anyway which is i try to picture my life when the howard stern show doesn't exist and i kind of think well what the heck and the thing is one of my complaints is that they don't do enough show they do they only do new shows three times a week and that's the weeks they're doing it they take long long stretches off and that's because howard stern is wealthy and he doesn't want to and also by the way when they do a show it's like three hours or something so But I think to myself I know intellectually that this show Will end at some point, that they won't be doing it anymore And yet I think That is going to be such a hole in my Listening day and I don't know what There isn't anything else like it for me out there There's not another like commercial radio show That I like am invested in the Hosts and their adventures And did Benji Actually meet Woody Allen And did Woody Allen go Benji Or is that a lie that he made Like you know Like, there are these just subplots of that show that I'm heavily invested in, and I just kind of think to myself, what am I going to do when this thing doesn't exist anymore? Like, I worry about the health of the people on the show. You know, Howard's sidekick, Robin, has been through health stuff, and I think if she left the show, would he want to do the show? If he were to get sick, if something were to happen, like, to his wife, Beth, who he's incredibly in love with. I literally future trip on things that would cause the Howard Stern show to not exist, and then I become concerned. And that is a very weird place to go in your mind over something that you're also, by the way, paying like $300, $400 a year just to get.

Yes, you mean because you're paying for satellite radio. I'm subscribing, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Which, by the way, have you thought of—this is not to our point at all, but I have gotten an email or two from some listeners encouraging me to extend my satellite radio subscription. I'm getting it for totally free right now, and they don't have any of my credit card information.

Just keep buying new cars.

Keep getting your windshield replaced. Safe flight repair, safe flight replace. But for various things, we keep getting free subscriptions for three months or something. And then they will offer me an introductory rate of something like $5 a month. And I got an email from somebody the other day that said, just take the $5 a month and then put something on your calendar that reminds you to cancel it right away and then call them back and ask them if there's a better deal. I used to do this with cable sometimes, and I would say, the only time I've ever been married in my life, Luke, is when I call the cable company for a better deal, and I tell them my wife doesn't want to pay for it anymore, but can they cut me a good deal? That's so manipulative.

I love that something in your brain says, this is what will get this negotiation done. They think I've got a real ball buster.

I don't know why. I slip into this character I don't know I really want to keep the cable But we're really trying to tighten our belt And my wife says just to cut it But like I don't know is there any kind of introductory deal Of course they always give you one They don't even need the god damn back story They don't care But anyway you might want to try that with your satellite radio I wanted to ask you though You and I have been doing this show together now for a long time As we've been mentioning recently You've come and gone On your sort of daily listening of the Howard Stern show over that time, or am I wrong about that?

No, it's been on and off. And that was the thing I was going to say, too. Now, I don't know if this is what your experience with Levitard will be, or if this is the experience that the people hearing our voices right now might have with TBTL. But, you know, it's like, life doesn't always take a straight path. And there were times when, probably because of my schedule or because of, I don't know, the kind of car I was driving or whatever, where I just didn't have the Stern show and I wasn't listening to it very much. And I thought, well, maybe I'll never listen to it again. And then something changed and then I started listening again and I got kind of brought back into it. You could end up at some point getting back into the Levitard show and getting really into it. People will tell us that they cycle in and out of listening to this show. The critical thing is you don't have to listen to the show to donate. In fact, it's often better if you don't listen while you're donating because then there's fewer things to make you mad. So I just want to decouple those two concepts for our listeners and our donors and let them know you're free to come and go. You're released on your own recognizance as it relates to TBTL. As long as you keep those sweet, sweet donations coming, then we'll be here whenever you're at the point in your life when you want to re-engage with the product. But without those donations, we may not be here.

And I just want to make one thing clear, too. If any dazzling donors reach out to me or John and say, hey, listen, I'd really like to keep my support going, but my wife over here doesn't want me to anymore. We'll cut you a deal. We'll cut you a deal. I was going to say we're not buying it, but you're right. No, you're right. We should meet them. I'm powerless against that. We should meet them where they are.

I do a version of that, not with a fictional wife, but with the way that I relate. to people particularly when i go into town and i'm in like the home depot or somewhere else like i i i really sort of i don't know if i can say this as a white straight white male but i do feel like i sort of code shift like within the kinds of ways that i present myself in the world and it's very much about me trying to seem relatable to somebody um over some some problem more service that i'm having i i ended up not doing this but i was considering finding out how much it would be to have the railing for this deck that i put in to have it fabricated you know because i want it to be metal with the like cables going through so that you can still kind of see the river and stuff um but i was calling a fabric this is something you know a lot about i was calling the fabric i was calling a walsh manufacturers it's actually literally called

weight manufacturers literally this is the type of thing that if if i mean my dad's been retired for 10 years now but i promise you can we get him if we can we get him out get him back in for one more score if it was 12 years ago or 11 years ago and we lived in the same state with him if we lived in ohio i guarantee you he would have fab these for you yeah and it's honestly i mean my my concern

around it is just well one the time like how long does it take what's the turnaround time on that And also the expense. Like, my guess is that if I had something custom made, they would be really nice. They would work really well. And it would also be a fairly, you know, expensive item. Just because that's what usually when you get something that's well made and made just for you and the dimensions of your little deck. That's usually how it goes. I don't know that for a fact because all I did was leave a message for a couple of fabricators. But I will tell you, well, first of all, one of them had so much. I ended up on their Facebook page somehow. and they had so much like just Blue Lives Matter kind of business going on that I was like, I'm okay if that one doesn't call me back. But when I left a message for the other folks, it was, I don't know who I was channeling, Andrew, but he was very much like, yeah, I've got some, I've got some, hey, it's Luke Burbank. I've got some metal fabrication I need for a railing. I don't know who I was But I was trying to be The kind of person that has a total B of a wife Who won't let him spend more than a certain amount On railing but you get it right You guys get it

Now you didn't invoke that though

No I didn't it was all in a message And then you know what I did I went on Amazon and I bought A shockingly expensive amount Of railing material That will be delivered to my house Andrew and I will tell you if that was Either the best or worst call of my life On Monday's show because I should have it by Monday.

So you purchased something, obviously, that is not custom-made. No, pre-made. Okay, so it's pre-made. You didn't buy materials that you're hoping to custom-make something yourself. You're just going to install it.

No, although I did consider that too. I thought – because, you know, I've been on this whole thing lately about kind of when confronted with a challenge, when confronted with something that doesn't come naturally to me, to just say, well, could I learn about this? Could I watch some YouTube videos? Could I attempt it and fail and then attempt it again and do a little better? Like, instead of just always being like, I'm going to pay some fabricator way too much money, I saw a line on one of the websites for these people that do railings. Not the fabricator, but some other company said, people are often surprised to find out that the safety railing is as much as the deck was. And I was like, please, God, don't let that be true. I'm so screwed if that's how this—

Well, you made your deck out of gold bars, though, Luke. There's not everybody— You made your deck, and now you've got to lie in it. Some people make them out of wood. I don't know. Did you know that? I didn't even know that was an option. That's not what they said in Dwell magazine.

That's not what they said on Ask Dwell. So that literally put the fear of God in me. I was like, the same price as the deck. Anyway, so, yeah, but I did have a moment of thinking, well, really, what are we talking about here? This is steel tubing. It needs to be welded. I could learn how to do that. I could my dad has welding equipment. I could go invest in one of those cool welding masks that we've talked about so much on the show that I would flip down before I was like, you know, this seems way out of my comfort zone. But on the other hand, what an interesting learning experience. And wouldn't it be kind of fun to have you and Genevieve over and we're out on the little deck and we're enjoying a drink or something. And I said, oh, yeah, you know, I welded these like that would be an insane thing. And I would say this, the people that are currently welding things, they're not fundamentally different than me other than they've been doing it a long time, and I haven't. So this was all went through my head.

I would be judging those welding beads so hard.

I always forget about your family background.

I don't know how to do it, by the way. I literally welded.

like stick welded once for just a sample of something once in my life i don't mean to say that i actually know how to weld there just for no but you have an eye for it be like if i came

over to your house and you'd made a sign unfortunately it said no luke's allowed what's with that i don't know man that's really that's really hurting my feelings so i so i had a moment of thinking well maybe i'm a welder now maybe this is what i do and then i had a moment of thinking about how bad the like that's not the project to learn on no like no i agree the project to learn on is go out to go out back and find an old like oil drum and do some do some frank dr frankenstein's monsters unholy experimentation on some piece of junk metal somewhere on the property not like this is not like finished you know stainless steel polished like finished work That is not where I'm going to learn how to do this. And also, I don't even know if it would end up being cheaper. So then I went through all of these different possibilities in my mind, and where I landed was where I always land, which was, do they have this on Amazon? Now, this is definitely, for me, the biggest roll of the dice of something on Amazon because it's thousands of dollars. Like, we're not talking about $50. And I watched every video that I could find of the stuff. I watched tutorials that were just made by random guys who ordered it in the mail, and I would freeze it and I would try to enhance, enhance. I really wanted to get eyes on what the actual columns looked like because they do sell cheaper versions of this at like Home Depot, but it looks to me to be a little bit on the cheaper side. Like I want something that's very, you know, very nice and finished and kind of sleek. And so I will not know until I open this box. Now, if it's not the right thing, I will definitely send it back.

They do make it easy. I double checked. Yep.

I double check, although this would, that's the other thing. You want to talk about future tripping. I was like, here's all you do, Luke. Like, don't, don't, don't stress out. You will carefully open the packaging. You will observe if these, if this railing system looks the way that you're hoping it looks. If it doesn't, don't just take it out and use it anyway. You put it back in very carefully and you take it down to the UPS store and then you mail it back to them for the return. And I'm thinking, yeah, but like, what if it gets lost? This is thousands of dollars. I've never tried to return something that's multiple thousands of dollars of building material. Yeah, this isn't one where Amazon's like, eh, just keep it. Right. Yeah, we'll give you half off. And so, but do you want to know how twisted my brain is, how sick and twisted my brain is? So right after I bought, so the way that this railing works is you buy it in sections that can go between different. So it could be from 13 feet to 19 feet. And that just depends on how you place out the support poles, right? Like the cable is – you have a lot of cable, and you just decide what is the amount of distance you're trying to cover. So I was buying this in different sections. You have to buy a different one for the stairs because it goes at an angle and stuff like this. And right after – and I was – again, it's not cheap. And I was like, oh, this is like – I mean I legally need to have it for insurance purposes.

Oh, yeah. We had a deck without a rail that when we bought our house in New Hampshire, it didn't have a railing around. It also just kind of looks weird without a railing, but it was just how we always knew it because it had been our friend's house. And then we, for insurance purposes, literally had to put a railing up around it.

And I need to do that. Kevin, calm down. So I just basically I pulled the trigger. I purchased the most expensive thing I've ever purchased on Amazon was this railing system. and then I what I had not done was bought like the last I didn't want to buy more of it than I needed and I hadn't quite figured out the geometry of the situation and then after I had bought what seemed like a lot of it I realized I still needed another like 10 feet and so I went back on Amazon sold out which I thought was interesting and I took to be sort of a positive sense then I had to go to the website of the company and then I bought it directly from the company and then I got an email from them saying we're missing a certain part of this whole thing and it should be ready in 45 days can we send you this other what it has to do with andrew and boy do you ever want to get into the minutiae of my life the sales pitch on this particular cable decking is that you don't have to crimp the cables they come with some sort of special like patented device where you can tighten them up and then you screw this little thing into you know the support pillars and it tightens up the cables you don't have to get a crimper and like you it's supposed to be more plug and play than if you were going to be doing this 10 years ago they don't they're sold out of the easy version so i had to order 10 feet of this is going to be the hard version so we'll see how it goes but anyway that um i don't know i don't know how i got on that subject but i'm glad i got it off my chest yeah what were we talking about that led you there was it when You

We were talking about listening to the radio. Maybe you were puttering around listening to that. I'm not exactly sure how we got onto that. Who can even remember? Who can even remember? But I do realize that we're running a little bit late on time, so we're going to have to say power out.

And we've said nothing about my deer problem.

I know. I was trying not to say the word deer because I had a feeling it was deer, but I was trying not to spoil it.

Maybe that was obvious. Well, here's the thing. One of my projects that I was very proud of, that I'm proud of so far, is that I'm setting up this garden area, and i got all of this fencing stuff this hog wire and i've you know i put it together it's actually coming together pretty well like it i think it looks okay i'm happy with it doesn't look super janky i just shim it out in some places because it's sitting atop of these raised this raised garden bed that's made out of railroad ties and those things have been there for years and years and are kind of wonky so um i got this thing mostly done and then of course when i'm on the phone with my dad and i'm telling him about the uh you know this this i was like i put these sections of fence on they're four feet he goes oh yeah deer will clear that that's like nothing to them so you got to go at least eight feet and i was like really i was like walt even if i have to go eight feet can you give me this one minute of joy please can you i'm i'm happy with how this turned out i'm proud of myself i feel like i'm actually doing something the right way here um and and like all he's just goes like oh yeah that's not gonna work it's like you know i just spent the last three days putting this together um but um as i was saying that to my dad i was looking out the window and i swear to god i manifested these deer there have not been any deer around here for months months and i almost thought is this a waste of time for me to do this there were six deer in the in the yard this morning six like i don't know what like and they're with teenagers like a mom with teenagers they're not like little baby bambys they're like they're kind of an awkward teen phase honestly but i love them so much i would die for these deer i don't want them to like you know what they were doing that was great they were hanging out on this like areas these hills i have that are all this like kind of landscaping rock and they were like eating the weeds out of that and i was like you go ruminant removal i love this for us please everything you eat out of there i don't have to weed but then at some point one of them got cocky and walked down near where my garden is, which doesn't really have very much in it yet, but it does have some tomato starts that are just waiting to be put in the ground. And I had to open the window, but I couldn't bring myself to yell at the deer because I love them so much. But I did have to say, buddy, you can't go in there. How did Buddy react? Not as scared as I was expecting him to be because I didn't want to scare him. That's the thing. I don't want them to have a negative association with me or my house or me as a person, But it's definitely going to be an issue Like I'm going to have to I'm going to have to pray That I am dealing with The least ambitious deer of all time That they're going to take This four foot barrier As enough of a Sort of a You know What's the word I'm looking for An impediment I'm just hoping I'm getting Some very underachieving deer Who are like You know what That looks like a hassle To get in there

Or like put out something That is more appealing to them Like just like I wondered about that Of carrots

I would do that, absolutely, because I love them being around here. The day that I first looked at this house, I drove up here, and I met with some Redfin agent. Seriously, nothing against people that work for Redfin, but it wasn't like I had an agent I was working with. I literally put into the app, can I look at this house? And they said, sure, we're going to send down a 24-year-old to help you with this.

Wait, did you write that, or did Gronkowski write that? Wait. Your imitation of yourself writing to Redfin was like Me know this, not money Yeah, right I'm blanking on the famous comedian's name Who made the joke about Ron Gronkowski Oh, Nicky Glazer Nicky Glazer

Me want Seahouse now Yes, exactly Me want Buy Ugly House Yes, go ahead So I get here and it was like It was a kind of unusually nice Kind of very early spring day It was almost like maybe a late winter day Where just the weather was cooperating and it was quite beautiful you got the river and then as i was walking around the house of course a mama deer and her two babies came like up out of the kind of tall grass and were just walking by and i was sold it was the and i didn't know if this redfin agent had coordinated this in some way if these were uh animatronic or something but it seriously was part of the appeal i was like i want to be somewhere where a mama deer and her baby deers are walking around That makes me feel happy. So I still want to live in that place, but I don't want them eating my goddamn peppers, Andrew.

I'm looking at the clock, and I feel like we have more things to get to. I have a feeling deers will come up more in future conversations. At that point, I will tell you that I learned at some point in my adulthood that I think I'm scared of deer. Like I was very close to them one time. And they have like, you know, I've always seen deer pretty much from afar or if they're nearby, I'm in a car and you're like, oh, there's a deer in the yard or something. But, well, I'll just tell you, it doesn't have to be a long story. I was just like at somebody's I was in Ocean Shores, I think, like a friend of a friend or like everything about them just makes me nervous. A friend's aunt or somebody like had a place we could use for the weekend. So me and a group of friends, this goes back probably about 15 years ago. So we all went to Ocean Shores for just like a summer weekend and some deer who were apparently very used to. I think I might have been there with you, but wrong, wrong group of folks. But but hang out with a different group of folks, insert yourself into this wonderful story. Now, all the story is, is that these deer came right on up to us. We were getting ready to grill or maybe we'd already started grilling or something. And these deer, I mean, it was like being kind of like at a petting zoo or something. only we weren't at a petting zoo and these deer had no papers and like I had no idea like I don't know they're wild animals and when they're really close to you and you just stare and they have these big black eyes and you're just staring right into the big black eyes of these deer and you don't know what's going on behind those eyes I gotta say I was kind of I was like I think I want to go

unsettled porch now yes huh that's interesting i have a totally different um feeling kind of instinctively around them which is and i by the way this could be this could be the wrong feeling because those hooves are not unsharp and like if you were you know if a mama deer i might guess most of the time their response to anything is to run away but if a mama deer thought that you were trying to hurt her baby deer i mean would she headbutt you would she like rear up on her haunches and hit you with those i would not survive a deer strike with those hooves or to

get behind them if they were to like kick you like a horse i mean i don't know if that's in

the arsenal if they've got that in the toolbox but like i i have to say i feel like i think it's because i i saw a very formative picture well i mean it was it was formative in my mind and maybe was the beginning of my like intrusive animal empathy i've talked about this photo before but there's a picture of audrey hepburn who i believe had a pet deer and it's her in a grocery store presumably in los angeles and i think she's like in the cereal aisle and i don't know if this was all posed for a magazine or if this was just like a paparazzi but the deer if i remember right is eating out of like an open box of cereal and there's just something about audrey hepburn who seemed like she might be half deer herself and like a deer deer and her like bringing the deer it they've been filed permanently in my mind as the gentlest of creatures and even this morning opening the window to say hey man don't go in that garden I could not bring myself to be like hey bear you know like I couldn't bring myself also it's not a bear so that would have been weird but like I couldn't bring myself to even use a loud tone of voice and and what I what I realized andrew in all of this whole journey of garden discovery if i plant this whole thing and if a family of deer end up leaping over the hog wire and having a really nice family dinner and it means i have to go to the store and spend two dollars on tomatoes i think i'm okay with it

we'll see we'll see it depends on where you are in your process how much work you've put into it

and then yes yeah i'm just i so we'll we will find out together that'll be a fun plot line over

the summer luke and the deer fun we was hoping for some razzle dazzle razzle dazzle that's right

man razzle dazzle on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go everybody

hey let's thank some dazzling donors these are the people who have never once ever experienced being annoyed with us, Andrew. I know, it's amazing. These are people who have listened to thousands and thousands and thousands of hours of TBTL and have found every second to be hilarious, entertaining, engaging, heartfelt, spot on. These are all words that I use to describe the show when I'm applying for a small business loan.

No, it's smart. I mean, listen, it speaks to the good taste of these listeners, obviously, but also it speaks to our perfection, I think. You know, as podcasters.

Don't mess with perfection. You know who would never dream of it? Benjamin Neal, our friend in Tacoma, Washington. A long time supporter of the program. Benjamin says, every year I overthink this and then hate what I end up writing. Oh, buddy. Is it possible you have a biological brother that you were not made aware of, Andrew? Yeah, right.

I know. I was like, oh, what? I mean, I've literally never read a dazzling donor message, and we've been doing this for years now. That's been like, oh, man, that one's a real stinker. They're always very sweet messages or sometimes they're sweet and funny or whatever. So I can't, I'll be honest with you, I can't recall Benjamin's form.

previous messages but like i guarantee you we enjoyed them we all i mean and this is the thing there's a certain kind of person that enjoys tbtl and a certain kind of person who makes tbtl and it's called people who do not suffer from overconfidence yes true so in the way that andrew and i are always kind of flagellating ourselves over something dumb we did or said and uh benjamin you're among friends i'm sure that your previous messages were awesome uh he says thank you uh he said this year i'm gonna wing it oh i see okay i get where this is going so benjamin is saying if he overthinks it and he tries to craft something that's like perfect in his mind and then it doesn't hit that mark then he's kind of bummed out so he's winging it this year says thank you dummies for what you do i appreciate the parasocial relationship we have and the community you've nurtured this year i went back and started at the first episode to see if i could find when i started listening to tvtl and i believe i've been listening since april 15th of 2008. Wow, that was early in the game.

That was very early. By the way, talk about parallels. I promise you, Luke, I literally have gone on the same adventure with Levitard. There's been a couple of times where I would sit down and really try to narrow it because I remember some aspects of the very first episode I listened to and I remember where I was when I finally listened to it. I was actually in St. Paul. I think I've told you the long, boring story in the show before and so I really tried sleuthing it out. I went on Reddit and so I know that feeling of being like, man, I've been addicted to this thing for a while what was the very first episode i listened to and did you figure it out no unfortunately because of like the lebitard show moving off of espn and also just like something like espn archives are not like i will give us credit like archive our archives are pretty solid like there's a few episodes missing here in there that i could probably track down um but for the most part like what are we at 4 207 or eight today um eight yeah and um like most of those are findable but unfortunately like levitard show doesn't have that kind of archives good on us for having a

complete archive and that's thanks andrew to your hard work and also the listeners at times absolutely archiving this this thing um benjamin says uh thanks for helping me struggle through years worth of work days and hundreds of miles of running appreciate you dummies well we appreciate you benjamin good job on the running too that's very impressive i don't i like i told you i've got a whole although i've been on a i've been on a listening to people talk jag lately for for jogging so i guess i can relate there are times in my life where um listening to people talk while i'm trying to run is just too much for me i can't do it my body says no thank you we need to be listening to time cop 1983 right now or um mf doom or girl talk if it has talk in it it'll be fine

what about sports like for me i told you i was at like the gym yesterday and there was a day game going on or two days ago um and there's a day game going on a mariners game and for me i love that even if i can only listen to it as best if i can watch it but even if i can only listen to a game like a game really takes me out of the moment because i'm really concentrating on what's going on in my ears do you ever jog and like listen to a game for some reason i don't which is weird

because you're right it's the most analogous thing like i have a couple times been on a treadmill and in a gym you know hotel gym and there's a basketball game on and i'll watch it because it's like i'm doing a sport they're doing a sport yeah yeah and you know that's not true there were a couple times at my old apartment in portland where the mariners were on but i also needed to run so i was just like well these are just going to both happen at the same time and you do that like treadmill like with the tv on yeah like there was a tv in the you know in the apartment gym and i would just be watching the game and running uh but generally speaking for me it's either political like podcasting something like our buddy Chris's show or Pod Save America or The Daily or it's music but for Benjamin it's TBTL and I'm glad that we've made a lot of it for you Benjamin because it sounds like you're running great distances so thanks for the support we really appreciate you

and that was a great dazzling donor message

it was so good one of my favorite ever maybe except for this next one we're going to do which comes from Maestro

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It's Danielle Greenewalt of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. What a city. What a town. I would like to make a shout-out to my kids, Chloe and Daschle. Chloe is 14, by the way, and Daschle is 10. Who have spent every family car ride of their entire lives listening to TBTL. Chris, my husband and I Started listening on the radio back in 2009 Chloe was born that year And now 14 years later TBTL has been a constant presence in all of our lives That is wild to think about I know that we have Listeners who've been listening For a long time And who've raised their children And they've listened to the show

But I guess I always assumed that was like The show is on in the garage As somebody's out there tinkering And the kids might come in and ask a question And then go out The idea of this all occurring in the car Like we get in the car We turn on the podcast There are young people hearing this There are young people trapped with this For some reason that's really intense for me to think about

The way I heard Michael McDonald as a kid I mean Wow you could have been trapped with a lot worse Honestly I do not like that sort of i don't know if that's considered yacht rock but that yacht rock i think i said yacht rot which is really insulting i actually really that's what took down my first boat i know like you and a lot of our friends really kind of like that era i really don't like you know how you say certain songs can give you the bad feeling i don't know if it gives me the bad feeling but that michael mcdonald's style cruning kind of stuff maybe i've come around a little bit now understanding some more context for things but generally speaking like that epitomizes me being like trapped in the back seat of I well maybe the 86 Oldsmobile I don't know what it was but like just like it just gives me like a bad feeling like get me out of here my parents were

always listening to like soft rock hmm I yeah I didn't listen to very much of it when I was a kid because I was being fed a steady diet of Christian music yeah and so I I came to it later in life and I really liked it. I mean, not all of it, but particularly the sound of Michael McDonald. I'd just like to know that we're the Michael McDonald of Chloe and Daschle. TBTL's been a constant presence in our lives. Our dinner conversations often include references to drops or stories about how they told their teachers something they learned listening to their friends on the imaginary radio. Man, I am like, you know what? Move over, dear. I would now die for Chloe and Daschle. And by extension, Danielle. Chloe and Daschle, you bring joy, love, and happiness to our lives every day. You make us so proud, and we are so lucky to be your parents. Also, by the way, I didn't mean to leave Chris out. I would also die for you, Chris. I'll also make a shout-out to Chris's interior architecture firm, Bunker Workshop. Check it out at BunkerWorkshop.com. That's B-U-N-K-E-R, BunkerWorkshop.com. Luke, Andrew, and John, our family is so happy to join you on this adventure of taking TBTL independent. Thank you, Andrew. Do you have the drop? What you do is so important.

Is it in there again? I didn't even notice that. I almost got caught. Sweetie, have a good show. What you do is so important. I almost got caught slipping.

I'm also at this website. I know.

That's why I also did it. Boo caught you slipping. I'm on this website as well. Wow. Look at this.

They did a place in Northern Liberties. That's where my Uncle Chuck had this great, great sort of townhouse. It had this amazing deck on the roof and everything But he sold it because there was a restaurant nearby That made too much noise And he didn't want to get into it with the guy So he just sold it like I think for like a It was like if you were going to buy a place This is the guy that you want to buy it from Because he did no negotiating He just was like I'll just take whatever I just need to be This is how my Uncle Chuck is And I love him dearly But he's like if he just gets fed up with something He just doesn't care anymore He was like, I'm not going to try to sell this for the exact top dollar I can get. The next person that shows up and says a number over $500, they can just have it, and then they can deal with the restaurant that makes too much noise. My understanding was after he moved, the restaurant closed down. Anyway, this bunker workshop, my goodness.

I'm clicking. I'm just clicking. Are you kidding me? I need to actually get off this website. It is just – I can't explain how beautiful these interiors are. I mean, unbelievably beautifully done. Yes, I mean, just perfect. I mean, ideal.

I mean, I need to start over on my house.

I know, it just makes me think, like, oh, man, all we did was install a human door.

Thank you to Danielle, Chris, Chloe, and Daschle for helping keep TBTL going. hello and welcome to top story our top story dateline irwindale california the sriracha the the uh hui fong food company has announced that they are going to stop producing sriracha until after labor day because they are having trouble sourcing enough peppers for the job and particularly enough peppers that are red they have peppers they say that the peppers taste fine but they are green so the color is off raising the question couldn't you just throw a little food dye in there i don't know how this works i i respect the fact that they're taking it this seriously but it turns out that there's been this whole thing going on with the hoi fong foods company and their pepper supplier uh a company named underwood ranch in ventura california um they both claimed that the other ones were doing them dirty the uh sriracha folks claimed that the pepper people did not deliver on the contract the pepper people said we did deliver in fact and the sriracha people didn't pay us it sounds like a jury actually sided with the pepper folks for $23 million. So now that that relationship has been severed, the Sriracha folks are having a hard time sourcing this particular kind of pepper that they use for making Sriracha. And the thing that I also found really interesting was that now this Underwood Ranch, the people that make the peppers, they have started their own Sriracha line that instead of having like a rooster on it has a dragon and they have a some kind of a tagline on their chili pepper sauce thingy which is the peppers make the sauce so it sounds like they got into it with the sriracha people the original sriracha people and then they went to court and then all this money you know was had to change hands and then they were like you know we can actually kind of make these and so now they're making their own sriracha because they've got the peppers right there you wonder if it's because they just saw a great business opportunity or if

it's to spite the sriracha people and then to like tabasco so let me give you a little background on what i knew of this story this your headline today that you sent me really shocked me because i thought we were coming out of the great hui fong sriracha shortage because i remember i mean i feel like it was about a year year and a half ago they said hey listen we're having trouble because of the because of the drought in mexico and some other issues with supply chain but really agriculture based stuff we're not getting the peppers that we need to make our sriracha sauce the way we make it and so for a long time now at least two full bottles worth in our house and you know like we love sriracha we use it a lot but it takes a while to go through a full bottle of that stuff yeah like vives and i had to buy different off brands of it and as a quick aside i remember reading a long time ago that the man at Hoi Fong who kind of kind of invented it like he's he's from Vietnam but he lives here in the United States and then he couldn't find the exact kind of hot sauce that he wanted so he created this stuff which is sort of based I believe on a Thai type of sauce but it's from a place

called Sri Rasha that's the place in Thailand hence the name Sriracha but that's actually based on a location in Thailand according to this

article. And as far as like, I don't know if they called the sauce there sriracha sauce. I don't think so. I think he sort of said, OK, I'm going to bring it to the United States, call it sriracha, sell it under Hoifang Foods, if I'm saying that properly. And he never trademarked it. I remember reading an interview from him like 10 years ago just saying, no, I didn't trademark it. Anybody can make this stuff. And he seemed to be very, very chill about it. And that seems to be playing out 10 years later when he says a couple of times like, hey, we have to stop production. And then the marketplace was flooded with all kinds of wannabes like for the longest time that iconic green topped bottle with the rooster on it i mean vives and i started eating this i remember back or vives and her friends introduced me to it when we first started dating back in 2000 and i remember it was it wasn't as omnipresent back then they just called it the hot genevieve and her friends um and uh and so anyway i guess when they weren't able to produce this stuff in the past couple of years i started to see all these generic brands whether it was like the signature brand which is

like the safeway brand or the qfc which do not taste the same to me and i don't know if it's just if it's if it's the power of suggestion but i've had a couple of off brands here and i swear they

don't taste quite the same well that's what genevieve says the first bottle i got which was a really generic brand which was all they had like the grocery store brand it did the color was off a bit and genevieve says she could definitely tell the difference i wasn't so sure about that then i bought another bottle when we finished that that was like it looked very much like the hoi fong one only it was a yellow top and i'm like well this looks like it so i bought that and then just recently we're getting near the bottom of that and for the first time in a long time i saw that my local grocery store had a whole like special section like they had just gotten a load a load of but it was all chipotle flavor no it was all the original like green top oh you better snap that up bro well i did i bought one the other day we're not even quite out of the yellow top one i bought one the other day i'm like vives we got to get back on this wagon and she was very excited because she says that she can tell the difference between them quite acutely and um and i was like all right we made it we made it through the great sriracha shortage and then you're sending me this note saying that no no we are behind on this we're and

Thank you.

another great sriracha shortage and andrew if you were to be googling around and you were like huh what's going on with this and you ended up at the website srirachashortage.com and you clicked on it you would get redirected to the tabasco people because mcelheny's tabasco of avery island louisiana i've always thought that'd be a great sunday morning piece i really want to do that because it is i mean i'm it's a big operation but like that was just a family thing they were making some sauce down there on McElhaney Island, that Tabasco sauce, they have created this website, SrirachaShortage.com, which redirects you to their page. Now, that's a funny bit of trolling. I will tell you what, if I'm in the mood for Sriracha, I am not in the mood for Tabasco. Those are very different flavors to me. Oh, yeah.

I think that the Tabasco company, though, just started making a product that was their brand. Oh, they've got their own. Yeah, I think I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I was at a Vietnamese restaurant, again, like maybe like a year ago when the shortage was like at its peak and there was sriracha but it was like brand it was the brand of tabasco i didn't think i tried it so i don't know but it's not the same stuff it's not like tabasco the highly vinegarized like watery hot sauce i see

i thought that they were just doing i hadn't clicked on it obviously i thought they were just trying to be funny by basically saying oh yeah if somebody's looking for sriracha and they're wondering why they can't find it it'll just link them to our stuff i thought that was just going to link to like the standard Tabasco I'll tell you this Tabasco I really like Tabasco but I only like it on one thing and that is breakfast I like it on hash browns I would never put Tabasco on like a taco I would never put it on something else because it has a very distinct flavor and it's very powerful and it kind of makes the whole thing taste like the Tabasco which I like if it's like breakfast potatoes or something but that's for that's that's when I use Tabasco it is not

interchangeable with sriracha in my mind no and it's not i'm i'm guessing that the the um tabasco brand sriracha doesn't have that same like again highly vinegary sort of flavor i'm with you like i love i love um tabasco on hash browns in fact i'll even take the if they have the green the green tabasco at like a diner or something that's really good slightly sweeter like that on hash browns too but tabasco i'll put a drop or two of that as you know i'm a soup man now i'll actually I'll like shoot like two or three like hot shots of Tabasco into my soup. But it only kind of brings out the flavor of the soup a little bit.

I see. I'm a sriracha in my pho guy.

Oh, me too. Yeah, definitely.

That's the way to go. You've got to get that to this thing where the prominent flavor notes are the sriracha and the basil. That's when it's really you've hit the sweet spot as far as I'm concerned. So if you see sriracha, say sriracha. If you see some out there, grab yourself a bottle because it looks like it may be a while before it's in heavy supply again. All right, let's do a little music for your weekend before we skidaddle on out of here. Do you have a song that you'd like to share with the listeners?

I do. So this comes by way of my Sirius Radio free subscription. I told you I've been listening to a lot of money. You're really getting your money's worth. I really am. This is as close as I've ever come to actually just signing up for that $5 a month thing because I've really been enjoying the music programming on Sirius Radio. I told you I've been doing a lot of listening, or I was there for a while, of that channel. It was like Lil Stevie's Underground Garage, I think, is the channel, and they have some actual kind of radio shows. Oh, I looked up the guy who hosts one of the shows. You had listed a couple of names when you were trying to think of who this DJ might have been, like kind of a British guy.

I thought maybe it was Jonesy, like Steve Jones from The Clash or whatever.

Okay, it wasn't that. It was some guy who had a background in both music and acting, and he's actually more famous. Shoot, I was going to write it down and remind you of it, but I know we're short on time, so I'll stop my blabbing here and just say I heard this song on that show, whatever that show is on Underground Garage, and it's called I Don't Want No Mama's Boy, and it's by Irma Franklin. And I couldn't find this on any of the streaming sites, so I had to go right to YouTube for this one. I think you'll like it too.

We were walking down the street about a half past ten When he looked at his watch And I knew right then Cause the same old thing has happened before His mama stood there waiting at the big front door But I don't want no mama's boy No, no, no, no

I don't want no mama's boy No, no, no, no I don't want no mama's boy Oh, you hold me You know your mama's got you on the farm. I don't know my mother's fault. But I'll make you mine or change you've got to go. I don't know my mother's fault. For every time I see you, it's the very same thing. Have I got a bar or a puppet on a string? I don't know my mother's fault. You hurt me.

Here you go. Irma Franklin. I never heard of Irma Franklin before.

I just feel like there's just no love for the mama's boys out there. Who's going to stand up for the mother boys?

I know. In 2024, I think people would write a song called, I could really use a mama's boy.

It's like nobody. Yeah, exactly. I just feel like nobody's saying, God, I would love to meet a mama's boy. Just a guy who's just wrapped right around the apron strings and just has to clear every decision with a different person who's not me.

Yeah.

Okay, do you have access, Andrew, to the That's Bat Shit theme from the podcast after these messages?

Yeah, you want to hear it now? This is something that I made using AI a couple of days ago for a new segment.

Because I think I found the Washed Out song that I was thinking of. And I just want to compare to see if I'm going crazy or not. So are you able to, do you have the music for your weekend that I requested?

Yeah, let me get these both queued up. So I've got my song queued up. And can you tell us the name of yours again?

It's called New Theory. It's by, I think, the guy, Washed Out. I think Washed Out is just one dude. But, of course, famously, the theme song to Portlandia is a Washed Out song, Feel It All Around. I love the music that this Washed Out person or persons make. But can you start with That's Bat Shit?

Okay, so this is the theme song to our new segment on After These Messages called That's Bat Shit.

that's fat shit okay

and when I heard that I said that sounds like something that I play on one of my summer algorithms all the time can you play a little bit of New Theory by Washed Out that's fat shit

I was gonna do that Your choice was right The chance to beat it out I swear to none The one to leave you back It's yours to find It's all you've ever done You're falling down You're falling back to us

so there you go a little uh a little washed out for you that really that the music of of washed out is probably well it's up there with songs that immediately transport me into a summertime time frame of mind you would never catch me listening to that in november but if it's if sun's out guns out i'm sitting by any kind of body of water there's a good chance that i've got

washed out on the stereo that's so funny because i could hear that way more as like sort of a rainy day song for me i like it but it's funny that um yeah you like very blissful sort of music in in

the summer yeah and without lyrics that are overly specific during the summertime is time for me to listen to french music that i don't know what the hell they're saying or music like that that like you said is very blissful but you kind of like toro y moi is another one that i really like in the summertime and it's kind of the same vibe it's like very vibey you can't sometimes the production is you can't even really tell what they're singing but it's just a vibe i don't

want to correct you i think it's abraham toro y moi i think oh i'm sorry yes sorry not to be overly

my bad yeah it's dylan abraham fraser toro did i get the other did i get the other royal who used

to be oh adam adam not dylan adam damn it oh i thought you were working in a dylan more i thought you were just trying to summarize a whole bunch of like people of that general position who who

also were mariners but now we've been playing them lately well i thought you were just including dylan more who is still a mariner of course but demo tell you what man um i don't know i i have an anecdotal relationship with Dima, which I feel like he's been doing really well this year. I couldn't tell you what he's batting, but I feel like I've had a generally good...

feeling about him yeah actually the last two years he was good last year too he's just in we don't need to get into this he's just like in in like kind of longtime mariners fans heads dylan moore is often somebody who gets like stuck between like the bases or he makes like base running mistakes or whatever but he has not been doing that this year and he's a great like he's just

a great he handed that baton to julio rodriguez i mean what honestly did somebody drop him on his

head recently he's pressing he's just he he's trying too hard believe it or not which is

something i've never been accused of doing our listener suggestion this week comes from listener eric who says i've been meaning to send this for a while um better late than never that's the adhd motto i was delighted to hear about andrew's rediscovery of the talking heads from seeing them live in 1982 at the u.s festival with the police oingo boingo the english beat and wait for it, the B-52s, to singing Don't Worry About the Government to My Daughters as a lullaby, even though that phase of my life is 20 years in the rear view. I have been a longtime fan. But the music I want to share with you is not the Talking Heads performing, but an amazing cover. It's from 2018. It's Angelique Kidjo who did a track-for-track cover of the Talking Heads album Remain in Light. I think it's breathtaking. You really can't go wrong with any of these songs but my favorite is the great curve there's so much about this message from eric that i to be honest with you don't have a ton of prior experience with i've definitely heard the name angelique kid joe i couldn't tell you what they sound like but i don't think i even

knew that was a talking heads record me neither i'm actually very interested in in knowing more about the talking heads record because i'm looking at it right now i'm looking at the kid joe version and i don't recognize any of these songs by title i'm oh wait no once in a lifetime apparently oh that's on that so okay obviously we know that one but aside from that i don't think i know

most of these songs andrew you may find yourself playing a song from eric and you may find yourself at the end of this broadcast week and you may find yourself wondering my god when will they be back with another episode and the good news is it's on monday so we'll see you then in the meantime thanks for listening thanks for being part of tv tell we will see you on monday have a great weekend take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

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