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What happened? Oh, well, it's really quite funny. I was in bed sleeping at 2 o'clock this morning, and my wife comes in and says, someone ran into the shop, and I said, oh, what? So I jumped down to bed, and all I had was my undies on, and I've walked out the front, and I've seen the car smashed, and I've seen the bloke walking back to the car. And so I've walked outside, and I said, oh, what are you doing, mate? Like, you can't be leaving the scene. And he goes, don't be a hero, mate. And I said, I'm not trying to be a hero, but the police are coming and he just decided he'd scoot up the road and i just said nah it's not going on like that mate so i jumped in my car and i started chasing him up the road and then he went down a side street and then the police were coming and i flashed them and sent them off in the direction of him but mate all i had was me jocks on i was chasing him up the street and i'm just like mate do you feel like a hero oh not really it's it's just something you got to do for the the community mate it's like you look after your mates and your mates will always look after you

guess what day it is guess what day it is it's friday friday gotta get down on friday

everybody's looking forward to the weekend in this business of show you have to have the heart

of an angel and the hide of an elephant. You are in business with a couple glue-sniffing

squish heads. Why don't I tell you all about it over a hot steaming mug of beer and a cup of cold corn? I'm such a sucker for content. All right, hello, good morning, and welcome

everyone to a Friday edition of TVTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Today, I'm thrilled to introduce you to something I'm incredibly proud of. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

I'm a professional. Look it up in the book.

Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia. It's been a whirlwind. I don't know, 24 hours. I raced out of here yesterday up to Seattle to do the Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me show at the Paramount in Seattle. What a night. Great fun. Really great to talk to some tens who had come out for the show. And then I hustled back home, got here, I don't know, 1.30 or something last night. And here we are, again, gathered together for episode 4213 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

Like I never left. One of the things, though, that's been unfolding over the last 24 hours is my continued descent into the dark underside of Facebook Marketplace where everyone seems to be lying. Well, we know you're good at lying. I've been trying to sell, like, a couch and a couple of wingback chairs.

I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career.

And this whole process has driven me so mad. i was just blowing andrew's phone up yesterday with just like more evidence more evidence screen caps photos and i think one of the things i've learned and i mentioned this yesterday that i was corresponding with someone named ladybug maybe as i say it out loud this is less shocking than i think but i was personally shocked to realize i think ladybug is a fake i think we can all agree that it's a great time to be a lady in america um i i honestly like i can't stop thinking about an obsessing over these how like effective i think this is i'm guessing this might be ai i'm not sure i can't believe how good these scammers are getting anyway uh we will talk about that plus you know i'm sure lots of other stuff including some music for your weekend here on this friday but first we've got to say hi to To this young man, the longest-running co-bro of the show, may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He lives by a fairly simple motto.

Life's a potty, wipe your body.

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. Can you tell, do you think the listeners can tell that I got a new computer? Do you think things sound different today? Do they sound better?

Well, I think so, except that's not the computer you're actually using.

No, no, it's sitting across the room, but it's giving me a certain energy, I mean.

Can they tell that there is in the room you're in a new computer that you finally pulled the trigger on?

That's the question, yeah. I mean, and I feel like the answer to that is unquestionably. Unquestionably, yes. Indubitably. Indubitably. Can I tell you, I shouldn't even tell you this because I don't know why I think of this as a shameful story, but I sort of do. I've needed a new computer for quite some time, for actually like probably a year now. I've been saying, going to get a new computer. or what I'm doing with this setup here, I have a couple of various janky things in my.

in my various setups here that make that allow me to do this show with you remotely and to get it posted and everything every day and to make the to make the videos that was a big thing that kind of changed when we left american public media is i'm editing the the videos now not that that's some sort of you know i i'm not an auteur i'm not a filmmaker i'm making youtube videos um called hey dummies like not that big of a deal but i just didn't know carl weathers so anyway i just needed some better tools but as we've discussed on the show i get a little bit paralyzed sometimes about making like kind of major purchases especially when it comes to technology because i feel like i have a bunch of like very specific audio uh video needs that i need to kind of account for i always feel like i need to do a lot of reading compare and contrast a bunch of different computer brands figure out what works for me because you know i've never gotten totally burned on a computer but certainly i've i've gotten computers where i think hey there's a lot of good stuff about this but also i really wish i had done some reading about this particular bug or i wish i knew it didn't work with this piece of hardware very well i also want

to say in your defense what you're doing there is pretty complicated like you and i dial up this line we talked to coach ben yesterday on the telephone i'm playing audio drops down the line you're playing audio where you are it's all getting recorded um and things aren't feeding back or you know we can all everyone can hear everything like it is a fairly technical like let me just put it this way last night and i'm not giving anything away but you know we're doing wait wait at the paramount and the first phone caller that came in phone line was completely shot like it was a huge technical issue that they had to fix well i shouldn't think about being

responsible for a phone line in a live venue anyway that's always so rough i but you've been

responsible for a phone line in a live venue uh on various tbtl events or at least you know yeah a video link and boy like the the problem solving that you did at the 4000th episode

no and sklarov did no i uh i well i was that i think maybe sklarov deserves some credit there but i think it was the the the team at the neptune because i remember just sitting there I was weirdly not, I remember you were really sweating it, and I just, like, the team there, this sounds like I'm being so patronizing, and I don't mean it to be this way, but, like, they were just, like, so good and detail-oriented and yes, and on all of our, you know, somewhat weird needs, and they were trying to figure out this video link, this Skype situation with Jen, I think. I get no credit for that. I was just sitting there thinking, eh, they'll work it out, and they did.

I didn't think they were going to work it out. It was bad.

It was pretty bad, but we had time.

Maybe I was closer to it. Like 15 minutes before we were opening the doors and letting everyone into the theater.

Oh, for the green room thing. I mean, we definitely had some complications, yeah.

But, like, there was a point where it was like, yeah, we don't think this is going to work. Like, it was, and there was, Andrew, as soon as you start downloading drivers, that's when I start to lose all hope.

Yeah, no, I remember them downloading the drivers. They asked me, like, some of it was my equipment. They're like, have you used the driver on this thing before? And I was like, I don't need to. Anyway, we're rat holding a little bit. I just had confidence. I was listening to the conversation. The guy I'm blanking on his name, which is sad. He just was he was a little bit panicky, but he was that kind of panicky. That was very productive. I, I, I have more faith in a tech person who's just on the edge of panic than I do in a tech person who's doesn't care enough, if that makes sense to you. And I could just really tell, like, this guy was not going to not let this work. Anyway, I just don't want to. Here's what I'm trying to say.

But I think that you're doing a fairly complicated lift there. So the fact that you do a ton of research on these computers kind of makes sense.

Yeah, and there are a lot of ins and outs. I have two different computers, one that I talk to you remotely on. Like you said, if we have a guest on, if it's by phone, then I need this other computer. You've got to make sure people aren't hearing echoes. And then, again, there's all kinds of post-production stuff. And I'm kind of running it like an old-fashioned radio station in here with an audio board. So it's just kind of whatever. Some of the complications might be because—

A guy from sales who drinks a little too much at the holiday party. All the touches of a brick-and-mortar radio station.

But he says that I get to test drive a Kia for six months, Luke, if we land the account. So I'm looking forward to that. Looking at you, Brad. But I guess what I'm... Forgot about that name. The second you said that name, this big bald head just popped right into... Well, now you're getting specific.

I wasn't going to get into physical activities. You know what?

I don't... Come at me, Brad. What are you going to do? Take away all of those sponsorship opportunities you were beating the bushes for for me.

Damn, dude, you know what? The carpal tunnel syndrome gloves are really coming off today.

Anyway, don't you ever make fun of my medical equipment. Here's where I'm going with this and how.

And I was dragging my feet and thinking, like, I need to do all this research. I need to do all this research. It was probably about a month and a half ago. I'm like, OK, well, our friend Hauser, who you call J-Dog, he's a filmmaker and a video editor. And so I'm like, hey, do you have any thoughts on, like, if I'm looking for a PC, but I want one that'll, you know, again, I'm not making movies here, but one that can handle my particular, you know, Adobe-based video editing software. And he's like, well, I'm a Mac person, but I just asked some of the people who use PCs in my business, and they're all saying, you know, this brand Razer, which is like it's a – once again, it's a gaming computer brand because often in the PC world, the computers that have, like, the most power and function –

Does it use NVIDIA? It does, yes, of course. Does it have an NVIDIA chip? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Thank you. The gold standard.

And so anyways, like, you know, I think everybody I know who uses PCs uses these Razers. There's also here's like a any copy and paste of like this message from some, you know, somebody who works with an editor that like I understood every other word maybe. And it was like all these tech specs or whatever. I'm like, oh, yeah, well, that's a good place to start. Certainly. I'd never even heard of Razor before. And then I'm like, OK, well, now I have something I can start like kind of comparing and contrasting to when I finally sit down and spend a few hours Googling all this. Because, again, my plan is to sit down and really do some research. That's why it's taken me a year to buy a computer, Luke. Well, that was a month and a half ago. I never sit down to do it. Yesterday, I'm like, I should go to the gym, but I really, our computer has been crashing on us a couple of times this week while you and I were doing the show. And I'm like, just skip the gym, sit down, do your work, just like spend two or three hours doing some comparison shopping and then pull the trigger on a computer and get it shipped to you. And I'm already like, I don't like getting them shipped to me. Like, it just seems like such an expensive thing to get shipped. I know that that ties into some of the stuff you've been talking about lately, Luke, getting things like kind of expensive delivered to your house and then the possibility of having to send them back or whatever so i'm like okay and i just start like comparing i go to the razor site first i'm like well this seems pretty straightforward like maybe just buy one of these things i'm not even doing any cross examinations or cross comparisons now i'm just like razor i mean it seems like i'm just trying to figure out like my first laptop was huge it's like this 17 inch thing that i liked but it was so impractical to take around places so then i over corrected with my next computer which was like tiny and i'm using that now it's like 13 inches and it's impossible to do you're trying to get into the goldilocks zone right so i'm looking for the goldilocks zone it's like buying an apartment right like you are renting an apartment the the next apartment always solves the problem you hated most about your previous apartment if that makes sense like my ex

this is not even true and i've also never even lived in an apartment with an ex it just just felt like the the joke was there for the taking so i did i need an apartment that knows how to love um no but you know like i need an apartment that isn't up my ass all day i feel

like i've heard people say like you rent an apartment but it you know the lawn the laundry situation really sucks so then your next apartment you're prioritizing the laundry situation above all else but then you're not looking at the view or whatever it is actually like my relationship so uh all of that is to say i realize i'm prattling along here too long i spend a year dragging my feet saying i'm gonna sit down and do all this homework and then basically i get one text message from one friend who says it sounds like razors are the way to go then i'm like you know what why don't i just buy one of these razors but then i have this one little itch in the back of my head and i'm like is there a place i can just go i mean the the best buy around me is so bombed out like i don't understand how it is even still standing you go in there and they have like one copy of daddy's home too and it's like dusty as hell this is the story of a girl if i could steal a joke from our favorite tiktok but uh but it truly is that it's just like this

it's rough husk of a place and there's like i've been in and yet somehow there's still 30 people

working for the yes but none of them want to be there i think they're all like compelled to be there by the sheriff's department for some reason they're doing it's basically it's here's what it

is it's mostly guys who fail it's mostly security guards who failed the test to become police officers working the paramilitary gear and something that looks like a gun but legally

can't be that's working the door right because i feel like the employees inside are more like kind of just what's the word i'm looking for when you uh i want to say affected but in affected maybe that's not the right unaffected like almost like you cannot get any kind of personality or

rise out of them at all well there's nothing left in the stores either i mean that's the thing we get into a long conversation that we have a few times about how much the case of retail theft is overstated by the retailers because it's just easier than saying we aren't good at doing this anymore but you go into it like i was in a best buy sorry to hijack your story but like i was in

Best Buy a few weeks ago because I just happened to be in like the Best Buy district and you know you're in the Best Buy district because there will also be like a like a Harbor Freight and like a some kind of a like a DSW and just kind of like these I don't I can't remember what I was looking at but I was like oh okay let me go see what Best Buy has as it relates to and this is why the story is not going to be great I'm trying to remember what it was that I was thinking I might need to get but anyway whatever it was I thought it was a fairly straightforward piece of electronics and i asked the person oh do you have those and he said oh yeah those are all back there and it's like go back to this cage and there's like one of the thing not even the thing i was looking for there was something that was like adjacent oh you know what it might have been it was a hard drive right no i don't think so it might have been related to these lights that we're now using yeah right for like a studio setup um because if people are watching this video right now on instagram and you think that i just like wake up looking this good no this is the result of a lot of technical intervention and flattering lighting. But I think I was looking for just like a sort of a key light or whatever they call these lights now. All of that is to say, it's shocking how little merchandise there is in the Best Buy and also how little the people that I've interacted with know about what little merchandise is there. Like, if you only have five things in the store, you should be a real Malcolm Gladwell on all of those five things. Right, but they're all covered in dust so they don't know. you don't have to keep track of a lot of stuff it's a couple of everything else is go to the website oh one last thing and then i'll stop i'm sorry i've got a lot of pent-up energy i don't know from last night or something this is the other new move in retail that i think is is an interesting development and i have run into it probably at least five times in the last month i'm in a store again i'm a power user of the home depot these days but it's happened to me in other stores um i would happen to be in walmart i was asking if they had mrs meyers spray you're talking to an employee you ask them if they have a thing and they pull out their cell phone and they google walmart.com mrs meyers it happens constantly in the home depot and oftentimes in the home depot the person will say my home depot phone doesn't work in here and they pull out their personal cell phone and are googling like you know four by four pressure treated uh you know stud and like i'm thinking well i appreciate your dedication to help me with this i could have also googled it on my phone like that's the next level of you go into a home depot and sometimes you get a person who is like like if my dad worked at home depot like somebody who's just like maybe kind of in quasi-retirement and they but they like you know everything about construction they just they're just like so such a useful sort of font of information you get that person sometimes and then sometimes you get someone who just goes and stares at the same aisle you're staring at like they're just another set of eyes and that's not really that helpful and now the next level of

that is they just google it on their phone does home depot sell four by four pressure treated whatever and and that's again i appreciate the attempt but that is something i could have done

from my home well the at the home depot near my house if you ask for help they just kick you in the nads so yeah i guess i'll take my local home depot then okay so i was you're at home i only because it drove me crazy i couldn't think of the word i was trying to think of before affectless was the word i was trying to think of before i don't know why in the moment i couldn't think of it but um that is neither here nor there what i wanted to say was i'm at home i'm kind of like okay i can maybe i just order one of these things and there are like some questions about processing power and like for some reason on the website like the silver model is like 300 more than the black one it's like buying a tesla or something i'm like i don't know so i'm like it would just be nice and i know i'm an old man but it would just be nice if there was like a computer store where i could go to and just put eyes on one of these things pick it up feel how heavy it is like you can you have all of those specs on amazon or whatever website but like it's just you just never really know the feel of something and i'm looking for something here that is bigger and more powerful than the tiny computer i'm using now but not as big and hulking and impractical as that other one which i know i used to do live shows with you and i'd pull this thing out and you'd be like what the hell is that thing it's huge you would say it's a gaming computer and i would hide behind it exactly so um anyway i literally type on my computer computer store seattle and the first one is just i'm just like let me just see what it suggests maybe it'll even send me over to I'm assuming that like while the best buy in my neighborhood is all busted up, I assume there's one over on the east side somewhere that is like that is some sort of paradise of audio video stuff.

You know, I just always the higher the sort of median income. Right. The more they trust us to keep the computers inside the store.

Veeves, as much as we're proudly city folk, Veeves has a rule that from now on she'll only go to the dentist in the suburbs. I think it's okay to say that because she's had so many bad dental experiences in Los Angeles and Seattle. Anyway, I type in computer store Seattle, and then I just put parentheses, I'm old. The first thing that popped up was rePC, which is a cool store, but not what we're looking for. That's a used PC component store. It's amazing. I don't know if you've ever gone in there down in the kind of in the stadium district, Luke. I love it. But obviously, that's not what I'm looking for. The next result is what about the Razor store in University Village? Apparently, Razor is a brand that is like now can have their own Apple-like store. And I'm looking at the inside of this place. And, of course, it's in the – I said the University District. I meant University Village, which is like –

I wonder if it's what used to be the Microsoft store.

Well, you can. No, it's not because the Microsoft store was a standalone in the middle of like a I remember it was like glass on all sides.

And yeah, it was like their attempt at an Apple store.

Yes, exactly. Or am I thinking of the Apple store? Either way, I don't think this is that this is like kind of tucked away. But it's like literally for people who don't know University Village, it's like this high end outdoor mall in like, you know, the style of like the Grove in L.A. or the Groove in L.A. or something. But, like, literally, I park my car outside of the Rivian dealership. I walk past a Tesla place. There's away luggage. I pass the Everlane store. Am I, like, sort of, like, painting a picture here?

It's a graveyard of former TBTL sponsors.

Yeah, exactly. There was an automatic cocktail mixer store that said not a Keurig.

Don't call it the Keurig of drink mixing.

there was a Theragun store where it said don't call it a gun like a lot of copy notes honestly now that I think about it but anyway so it was just such a weird experience for me and you know it's one of those places where I don't know what's going on with Razer but it's definitely like a gaming laptop shop and it's you know and there are three

I'm looking at this store that logo on the outside that sort of like

snaky looking serpent three headed serpent-y thing

Like, that would be, like, the bad guys in the movie Dragnet starring Tom Hanks from the 80s. That would be their symbol to let you know you were at the right place.

Yes, or I even think of, like, what's that Sylvester Stallone 1980s, like, underground movie where I believe there's a gang of people. Oh, it's called Cobra, I believe. I brought this up a lot.

Also, it does look like three spermozoa.

Yeah, right? Meeting in the middle. Meeting in the middle. Unfortunately, see, none of that is my kind of vibe. But unfortunately, that logo is on the back of my laptop because I did end up buying one of these things. But I will say this, man. I walk into this store and it's kind of like it's like an Apple store in that it like very carefully and enticingly displays.

It's like an Apple store drank a monster energy.

Right, exactly. Because it's all I was going to say, it's like it's all displayed like, you know, like all these like tech toys or whatever. And it's but more space than actual than you need for this. but instead of being all like brightly lit and airy well it is airy but it's like everything is very dark and black with like you know like kind of um you know whatever colored lights here or there whatever making it sound like a discotheque but anyway truth is i go in there there are three people working there three of them now again i call everybody kids now because i'm 47 and these were probably people that were you know probably all in their early 40s no you know like whatever probably all in their 20s certainly and i'm going to say very early 20s for some of them and just like the main fellow who helped me just like the nicest guy in the world like they're all just so nice and so helpful and also saying like you don't need like this one that has all this latest stuff like for your needs like this we're kind of like this model here is a pretty good discount because we're kind of moving away from that model but it's going to do it was just like exactly what this old man needed was to i mean it was a little bit like university village scares me i can i swear i've been there maybe 12 times in my life and they change it every time it's some magical place where it's never the same place twice and like i can never i click a river andrew i could never navigate that place without a map like it all it's always looks weird and new to me all the roads to get in you have to like take all these weird snaky roads that look like the logo on the back of my new laptop you know what i'm talking about like you're driving down 45th and it's like oh two different roads will sort of loop all the way to the right but you got to take the first one and there's going to be a troll there he's asking three questions

and you got to get two of them right what was the name of the bagel shop in qfc before they remodeled and you say no it was bagels oh no well there was a brugers there was a brugers but i think i've missed i think upon reflection i've misattributed that to being there

Thank you.

were many brugger's bagels in seattle when i was growing up i believe it might have been a noah's

at that particular qf there was somebody will fact check me on there was a noah's on uh capitol hill on the main drag of capitol hill when i first moved here i was very sad when i closed because i couldn't get my bagel wrapped hot dogs anymore that had been sitting under a heat lamp for like

two decades had to gnaw at like a dog toy university village in seattle is a real um it's it's it's a real maze and and the thing that i won't bore everyone with this reflection because i say it every time the topic comes up but that is maybe maybe more than anywhere else i can sort of picture from my like mental map of my like teenage and and younger years i mean first of all it is where i worked at that place storables extra space but it was when i was growing up it was just such a humble little you know single level there were no two-story buildings and and uh it was just a i mean it just had very kind of seattle-y kind of places like a place where they just sold way more clogs than anybody really needs to a wider selection of clogs than you would really need and like a couple of you know some some kind of like scarf that looked like it was from you know some place in the middle east or whatever like it was a very

purple store where they only sell purple things thank you which by the way that turns out to be

a huge huge growth industry yeah that purple store is blowing up now that one is actually where was that on aurora or was that on the ad i've moved well yeah i mean that's a whole other trip down memory lane so the purple store went in uh into uh what used to be i think craigan's pharmacy for a while which is now mosaic church which is very near to your favorite motorcycle bar to drink at all that is to say when we talk about you village like i it's just so it's it's like i can't think of another place that i grew up that was more one way when i was growing up that is more now the way it is whereas like i don't know what was happening in bellevue in the 1980s i didn't go to bellevue like i don't have like bellevue is fancy but it it always has seemed fancy to me this is a place where i can like look at the sedimentary layers or the rings in the tree that is University Village, because I remember what it was like when it was a sapling, and now it's got, like, a hundred rings on it, and my mind is constantly blown, like, once every two years that I go there.

And it's all, it's usually sort of, it's all kind of high-end-y kind of stuff. It's like this kind of high-end experience, and it's like looking at the things around there, like, you know, the Eddie Bowers, the North Faces. It's Edward Bauer there. it's mr edward bauer the third third esquire so although i don't have a power out i was just so psyched to see that i could walk into a store and like but and i guess just to recap a year it took me because i needed to sit down and do my research and my research ended up being asking hauser what kind of computer should i get he suggested one brand me walking into a store and asking a young person what which model should i get and them handing me one and now uh and now i'm ready to do my business and this podcast is just about to take off thanks to this new gaming computer

i love it i'm glad that you did finally pull the trigger we got a you john sklaroff tbtl employee numero uno and i got an update from you an accountability email from you saying just so you know uh the business has made a purchase of a piece of technology just so you know we didn't think that someone had stolen the business debit card did you did john copy you on his response i

sent you guys i sent him the receipt and i'm like oh i should let you know that i pulled the trigger on this too it's a significant purchase although i did i thought it was going to be like i it was like significantly less i saved money on this thing and i wasn't going in for that like i was thinking about our conversations like get the tools that we need right and yeah we will we will we will you know find a way to think about how much more money we're going to make now that we're processing now that we're processing 400k but i was surprised that like because of whatever was going on with this model um it was like oh yeah this is this was a pretty good rate for what i uh for what i needed i send the receipts to i tell john hey keep an eye out you're gonna see a big spike on the card like i'm going i'm going computer shopping uh he's like yeah thanks

by the way i recently bought some computers at the casino um at the atm at the casino yeah right

That's I don't know. That's their process. That's the system. But I had told him kind of what to budget. And then I take a photo of my receipt and I send it. And I think if anything, he's going to respond like, oh, yeah, that's nice. That's kind of under what we budgeted for it. Instead, I just get, huh, I see this is a gaming computer. That's very interesting. All right. All right. All right. I have not installed any game. Like, I don't even play games on these things or like unless you count Hex Empire, which I don't think is available to me anymore.

Now, you do sometimes play that one egg game from I Think You Should Leave, though, right?

Yeah, I do, which is my eggs.

I don't know. I've never been to this level. so that might be that's in my top five sketches from that season i don't know why it's so weird there's something about tim robinson's performance of how kind of unaffected he is by the fact that he's being so unprofessional and that his boss and the person he works with are so upset with him but all he can think about is this bizarre very very like low-tech early 90s game that would be like an apple 2e or something where a guy is eating eggs it's so it's so relatable to me it

reminded me of that waitress game that i played for a long time a very basic game but it gets more and more intense as you're just trying to um you know it's like a flash based game where you

just serve your customers in a diner but there you go listen it's it's actually uh very apropos that you were talking about things computer related because andrew i have been i've been on my computer and i have been feeling as lost uh and as flummoxed as i as i've ever felt it Literally in my adult life, trying to deal with this Facebook Marketplace situation. I have, supposedly, somebody showing up in about a half hour to buy these chairs from me. And I'm so gun-shy. You've been hurt. I have been used and abused by these bots on Facebook Marketplace. And I want to talk about this with you after we thank some dazzling donors.

We was hoping for some razzle-dazzle. Razzle-dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle-dazzle.

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set.

Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody razzle-dazzle.

All righty. We've got to kick things off by thanking JoJo, Moran, Douglas in Tokyo, Japan. Sugoi.

Now, was it just this week that we were playing JoJo's masterpiece, Barterfly, the mashup between Butterfly?

and i know this is like confirmation bias or this is a thing that happens but like when something happens and then we start noticing it in other places and we think that there's something going on but really it's just we're noticing things but right after you played jojo's barterfly which is a combination of the song butterfly by crazy town a rest in power shifty shell shock and um i think he might still be alive i don't know but i just hope he's getting a rest though um but uh but uh and then uh the bartman from the simpsons right after you played that i swear either that afternoon or the next day they used butterfly as the kind of bed music on all things considered oh really yeah i mean it's kind of a jam so good as bed music but i was like does eddie like who made the call that we're using crazy town for this and how weird is it that i

just heard barterfly on our show that's right and in fact that did that even come up during a dazzling donor message because i think i remember you talking i think we used a barterfly as bed

music but i don't know that we right and you were talking about the work of bart scott former new york jet who was hosting a show on the weekend and they were playing butterfly and you thought

how does he not know about barter if his name is bart and he's using butterfly okay so anyway what

does jojo have to say jojo by the way let's uh also clarify jojo is donating a dazzling amount of dough we really appreciate it jojo says hi i want to thank tbtl for continuing to be a cure for global loneliness by being the constant companion we all need in times good bad and otherwise i truly appreciate it in previous years i've promoted music and while it's very much a departure from my tbtl featured serengeti appreciated well sort of mashup butterfly did we play barterfly for serengeti at the live show we did you were on a lot of cold medicine and i was on a lot of alcohol medicine i think that night yes it was fun but it was a bit of a

blur yeah i remember sharing some of my cold medicine with serengeti who i don't think it

love it this guy's down for a party um uh let's see here i'll be featuring on a friend's ambient and atmospheric record later this year cool jojo the artist is benjamin fullwood and the track is called black willow it'll be on his soon to be released uh release date tba but soon record the stars are very far away from all of this. I do some modular synthesizer-based sound tweaking on it, and I'd love it if fellow 10s and the guys, I think that's us, Andrew, would take a listen. If any 10s are interested in experimental or electronic music, I'd be very happy to hear from them via Instagram, where I am at, so here is JoJo's Insta handle, it's at J underscore J Moran, M-O-R-E a n j underscore j moran uh thank you come to tokyo go swallows and power out nice i am getting actually very into uh what you might call ambient or atmospheric music andrew true story like there's a lot of the stuff that i've and i can't give you off the top of my head the

exact names of the artists because what it'll often be is a something that was on tiktok but that was just very kind of ambient and moody and then oftentimes it'll be maybe like an artist who it looks like they might be in like korea or something somebody who's making music but again i don't know why i'm assuming this but it's almost like a person who's making music in their bedroom and has put out this some kind of a thing like they're often like there's no photos of the person there's kind of not a lot of detail around who they are but I just the music just like puts me in a particular mood or gives me a feeling which I think is the whole idea of something that's ambient or atmospheric so I'm excited to hear this black willow from Benjamin Fullwood and Jojo Moran because uh Jojo Moran Douglas that is because I'm getting into this kind of music

right now and I'm I'm on Jojo's um Instagram page and uh it's really cool ads so I'm not going to click on these because I think they'll all be um they'll all have audio associated with them but is cool he's a really cool photographs of all these um you know um synthesizers and close-ups of of plugs and cables and everything with music over top of it this is a good follow j underscore j moran all right thanks jojo appreciate you maestro i tried to say that

in my most atmospheric way look who it is it's harley and amy cody in stanwood washington Harley, like the loud, annoying motorcycle. Amy, like Andrew's sister. And Cody, like a douchey frat bro.

Oh, boy. Oh, Cody. Well, what if we have, yeah, I mean. I mean, Cody's their last name. So I don't know why I just addressed Cody like it was a person. But what if we have Cody's who are, you know.

What if we had Cody's who were listening? Hey, friendos. Amy and I would like you to know that we love you guys and think you are the cat's meow. I first heard the I think I've probably got

I think I handled it perfectly well

you really did the problem is I've refiled the cat's meow under the Michael Barbaro section so mostly what I've got is like this stuff and of course

it would be amazing I mean absolutely amazing to be listening to the daily and he's the daily right yes I'm getting confused and he's just making the Like if he just drops a meow

Andrew let me tell you There's an AI program for that You could 100% get Michael Barbaro voice doing a meow

Yeah that is true

I first heard The show during your first week on the radio And I thought great This is all we need another liberal hipster Blowhardin on the radio

I get it Harley

I absolutely get it Then the Kingdome poop story happened, and I was hooked. There's just no way, Andrew. You mentioned the perhaps principle the other day. We were talking to Coach Ben about how our Lake baseball sponsorship has worked out this year. And boy, oh boy, if you could have told, I don't know how old I was, 12, 13-year-old Luke Burbank, who was having an absolute bathroom disaster while standing in line to use the stall at the Kingdome while at the Mariners game with his friend's family, not even his own family, but his friend's family. If you could have told that version of me that that was going to become probably the signature event in my life as it relates to thousands of people who listen to this show.

And in a certain way, your gateway to a certain amount of success, your meal ticket.

If you will, and I did, and I will continue to. Like, it just so happened that that story was told on a night When Eli Sanders, Pulitzer Prize winning Eli Sanders, then of the Stranger in Seattle, was sitting in on the show And wrote about it And it just took on this It became really one of the signature stories Of TBTL I could have just never known that When I was in my darkest hour As a pre-teed So I'm glad, Harley, that that won you over Despite my liberal My woke liberal mind virus I liked that the stomach virus I was suffering from Made you like me even though I had the woke liberal mind virus. The Kingdome poop story happened and I was hooked. I realized that you were my people and I've been a daily listener ever since. Luke, I've really enjoyed listening to the stories of your child and have been able to relate to your evangelical upbringing being a PK. That's a preacher's kid or pastor's kid, depending.

Wait, is that really a term that is like tossed around a PK? Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, I thought they were just putting that in this message like it was just shorthand for us. But that's the thing, PK. Oh, I'm a PK.

oh yeah yeah that was like no idea it's a it's a whole thing in the particularly the like evangelical christian world like oh he's a pk and that just meant a whole kind of like thing about your life which was like you know your dad was a pastor and so what does that mean does that mean you're You're either going to.

be like really bad like you're going to be rebelling or maybe you're going to be really good like you're very you know by the rules anyway yeah pk is a common term in that world and also a teen father in the mid 90s seattle myself it's nice to know that there are others that have had similar experiences dude harley you have a lot to relate over being a pk and being a teen dad in the 90s um speaking of being a father i wanted to promote my daughter alethea's tea business the company is called gilded tiefling and has t's and t paraphernalia that is fantasy and d&d inspired if you would like to support a woman-owned small business this is a great opportunity you can look them up at the gilded tiefling and tiefling is t-e-a-f-l-i-n-g the thegildedteafling.com or follow them at thegildedteafling on Instagram. I have really been meaning to get more into tea lately, Andrew. Becca drinks a ton of tea. Like, when I'm over at her house, before she goes to bed, she brews up some kind of a relaxing tea that she always has, and then the cats jump on her, and then she's doing a crossword puzzle, and I just think, what would it be like to be that mentally healthy? right i can't even begin to relate to that but maybe the tea is where it starts you you momentarily

put down the vcr cleaner that you're huffing to enjoy the serenity no what i do is i look i look

over the screen that i'm looking at tiktok on which is in front of the screen on my laptop where i'm watching a sporting event which is in front of a giant tv that i'm watching something else on i put down my three screen experience and my and my keyboard duster long enough to look at Becca's drinking her sleepy time tea with a cat sitting on her.

I put down my Razor computer and stop watching MMA for a moment.

So, like, I have really been thinking maybe this would be good for my sleep hygiene and just for my overall well-being to integrate tea into my life. And maybe the gilded tiefling is where that starts from.

I'm on the website now. Beautiful stuff here. I'm looking at, like, those tea infusers. I love a good tea infuser. What is a tea infuser? I hope I'm using the right thing here. I think that's the thing that's like a little mesh or a little screened in a little ball that you clasp shut, but you put the loose tea in there. I think that's a – I love that, by the way. Whatever they're called, I love those things.

Yeah, that you can like – so basically, you don't have to just deal with a tea bag that came in the Lipton tea container. You can do your own thing and just put it in there. Yeah, this is all really beautiful stuff. Oh, they're selling something called Krakens Embrace Blueberry Green Tea. So, yeah, this looks like a really cool thing. Go check it out, please. And if you're a tea fan, although I will tell you, if you're both enjoying some Sleepy Time Tea and listening to this podcast, you don't stand a chance. You're going to be out like an absolute light.

I mean, release the kraken.

So, anyway, do check out thegildedteafling.com. Harley and Amy wrap up the message by saying, Oh, and Andrew, if you decide to come up and tour the factory of a certain North Seattle aerospace factory again, I will make sure they don't take down my signs. This is who that is. Welcome to Walsh family.

Right now, I'm putting it all together.

I'm the manager now, Andrew.

Oh, wow. You're the manager now. Congratulations.

I'm the captain now.

Yeah, exactly. Classic Harley.

Yeah, wow. Love you guys and John too. power out signed harley oh this like i just love special memory that is for me visiting there and

and running into a 10 when i was brand new on tbtl i'm giving i'm with my parents who are visiting from ohio and i'm just like in the elevator and all of a sudden the elevator doors open and we're with a tour group and somebody said is that andrew walsh and that was harley and everybody turned to me and the tour guide was like i guess we have a celebrity in our midst and my parents both looked at me like what are you up to out here that is so great i love that harley thank

you for making that happen for andrew and again thanks for sticking with us like we do have a particular worldview here which i i have so much respect for our listeners and i'm not i don't know anything about harley's take on the world but like i have a lot of respect for somebody who may come from a different kind of have a slightly different perspective on things who's like okay i don't agree with luke and andrew on on their various tangents but i i like the core of what's going on here i i find that to be really like a hopeful thing because there's not a lot of that happening in the world anymore we've very much gone to our corners as it were and so anyway i'm harley thanks for pushing through your initial suspicions about the show appreciate it hello and welcome to top story andrew this thing is so complicated and exactly the wrong kind of thing to try to describe on an audio only frequency like this but i have gone down a deep rabbit hole on this whole facebook marketplace situation if if folks missed yesterday's show or if you've forgotten I'm trying to sell some for like pennies on the dollar I'm mostly trying to get someone to carry away some furniture of mine almost for free and I thought well maybe I should be putting this up on Facebook Marketplace because I wasn't getting a lot of action over on Craigslist and I was getting a lot of messages on Facebook Marketplace but the thing was they were many of them were from people who had names and I'm just going to say it now because I don't think this is a real person like ladybug cross or like morgan johnson or like alice smith or like not even alice smith but like names that were that were very kind of almost like an ai program made them up but then i would go to some of these were obviously these are people saying i'm interested in the furniture and some of them a couple of them anyway that reached out to me were pretty clearly some kind of a bot because Because their profile picture would be like a tree, and they would have zero friends. And so that I could say, well, that's not probably a real person. Very few people have zero friends on Facebook. But then, we had the ladybug crosses of the world, and these other accounts that were reaching out to me, I should actually just try to, oh, of course, I forgot to bring my Facebook computer in here, so I'll do this from memory. But like what was really crazy to me was that a number of these Facebook profiles had very real looking people on them and family photos and posts and posts about certain social justice issues and responses to the posts and geographic locators, Andrew, that were like in towns that were, you know, within 30 miles of me.

And long histories, too. I mean, that's long history. Like they really built these pages up and out over the course of what seemed to be a long time.

Yeah. And like and like these like I was look. Here's the thing. The reason I'm so shook by this is because I think of myself as a person who, if I put my mind to it, can successfully navigate the Internet without getting bamboozled. I might be you know prone to a kind of a quick slip where I they wake me up with an email that says hey we're renewing your whatever account and I'm like wait I don't want that account and then I call them and I realize oh shoot that's a that's a scam I might get a little way down the road with a scam but if I'm like if I'm on high alert if I'm like looking if I'm staring at a Facebook profile I feel confident that I can figure out if it's a person or a bot but I have lost that confidence I have lost my mojo because these pages are crazy they're like I said there is this one that's on this person named Ladybug's page where it is a first of all here's what I think is is that there's some constants with these pages that I'm noticing they're typically and maybe this is just because of where I am geographically they tend to be conventionally attractive white women in let's say their late 20s early 30s with a family and they're always the photos are always of them and their kids and their kids are like over the top cute and then a picture of like them and their husband now one of the things about the lady about ladybug's account because i was corresponding with this person named ladybug i thought was in beaverton oregon is the first picture on her account is her and her husband in an embrace but they're also sitting in an upstairs hallway in their house on the floor like crisscross applesauce but hugging and kissing In a way that makes no sense But it's her main photo And everyone's like Oh beautiful These comments are like Beautiful Love you too It's like all this The kind of comment That if you were an AI program You would have learned This is what people say about photos But it's uncanny Because I don't think Anyone is going to have it be A picture sitting on the floor In a hallway Hugging their significant other Or kissing their husband It's like they put a program in or they they told the program generate a like a romantic picture

between these two ai characters so you think that these photos because you were sending me i think the photos are ai the photos are fully ai i think the photos are ai and i think that what

happened was like with and i again i have to go i have to go to my facebook computer andrew but i will get on that one and i'm gonna send you maybe we can use it for well if it's not ai we're probably not allowed to use it for a show pick, but like I'll send it. you just so you can get eyes on it what I think is going on with some of these photos is an AI program was told to do something and it did it almost perfectly but not quite like it it created a photo of a husband and wife having a romantic moment but it didn't understand that we don't usually do that sitting on the floor in an upstairs hallway I mean it's one of those things where it's

like you could see it being like well there's a whole there's now a couple of generations of people younger than me who are into influencing and like there are people who are real out there who take photos of themselves in a way that I could never possibly relate to like okay here I am on this vacation make sure you get me you know like again these very like very curated maybe that's the wrong word but very um you know uh purposeful photos that you're taking in ways that i cannot relate to so you could maybe see okay listen this is a couple that had their engagement photos taken in this way that they wanted to blow up and impress everybody on instagram and spotify so some of that can go along can go a long way but you're just saying that it's just like you're you're sharing with me some of the responses too it'd be like two people saying oh your eyes are deeper than the lakes of the lord or whatever like things that like almost makes sense that sounded like an andrew malprop is a beautiful woman face right like things like

so what'll happen slightly off ladybug cross will post a picture of like her and her kids or her husband and then a friend a friend who has a name that almost sounds like a name will say beautiful

woman face you know but then show title or is that too weird i end up on that person i end up on that

person's facebook account because i'm like is is is croc sevdiv and again i made her name sound like russian but it's just like letters that almost make a name but don't in like any language that i've ever heard of is that person real is the person who said beautiful lady face real and then you end up on their account it's kind of a similar thing it's a lot of like photos of like a husband and wife and their two kids and but they're walking into a sunflower field but they're looking back it's just that is the energy of the whole thing but again what's so devious about it is that they also these accounts have figured out somehow geo-targeting me so that they put love bug love bug they put ladybug cross in beaverton that's not that far away from where i am they put this other woman named amy simock or something who i was talking to about the couch they put her in a town that's maybe 20 miles north of me and some of the posts that they put up are like please come out my dad's opening a food truck it's called this and then the location of it is a place that's not that far away from me so it's just like the craziest thing because these programs and what here's here's how i know that they're they're spam all of the accounts that turned out to be really weird when i first got the message from them and responded yes the couch is available facebook generated a message that says watch out for scams yeah there's one person in this whole thing of the 20 people i've been trying to communicate with andrew one of them i didn't get that watch out for scams message and guess what that person may be showing up here at any minute to pick up these two wingback chairs and so what i think is i have been talking to a number of spam bots fake accounts and somehow facebook knows that they're fake or at least is on alert because i thought that that was i was getting it so often that i thought this is what facebook marketplace does every time you interact with anyone but what i'm realizing now is no it understood something from these accounts that they were probably fake and it was warning me you know it didn't warn me for the account of the woman who is in 10 minutes supposedly going

to show up and buy these chairs i'm doing it didn't know you were kind of i don't know going deep on this yesterday or at least like spinning out i think kind of spinning out is but i couldn't

stop sending you screen caps it was wild i was like ah like this how is this how is this a bot

how did they get me but i'm do you know what the scam would be you're the one who has the couch they're not trying to scam you out of a couch it's i guess just engaging with you in the same way somebody um i think it was our friend and listener sierra who sent me um a photo the other day she got the same one i got a few years ago where it was just a random photo texted to my personal cell phone of somebody holding a bottle of wine right and it turns out that's a whole thing and you're supposed to like engage with them and say oh i think you have the wrong number but that looks fun and then they start asking questions which by the way i was rejected by i got this picture of a bottle of wine during a tbtl i responded i think you have the wrong number but i wish you didn't or something like absolutely flirty and they never wrote back to me i was like my god like I'm giving you, unless I responded with my social security number, I don't know how I could have been more enticing to you. I'm a middle-aged person who wrote back something kind of flirty, like give me a break. But anyway, I'm just trying to figure out what this scam is here. But I am seeing, my question for you is, did you spend any time Googling this? Because I'm starting to do this on the fly right now. And I see that Stanford University even has a bit of a white paper, how spammers, scammers, and creators leverage AI-generated images on Facebook for audience growth. i'm seeing a deeper in here there's some key takeaways which is um uh let's see a lot of them are named ladybug i mean here's the thing pages attempt to sell products that don't exist or get users to divulge personal details some were posting ai generated images on stole on stolen pages that's what i wanted to get out there i think that like a combination of stealing identities and then probably enhancing stuff with ai i think that's probably what's going on here so

some of it might be real and some of it might be fully ai generated um i i don't here's the thing i don't think that they actually have a really a super well thought out plan of how to convert this interaction with me about a couch how to convert that into me giving them something of value i think probably it's just about engagement it's about it's about a bot getting a real human to start interacting with it and then they'll figure out the rest later and and maybe if i were to go way down the road with these maybe if i were to really persistently keep because what what's happened with all these bots is they've just faded away they've been like do you still have the thing and i'm like i do have the thing are you interested and then like no response i'm wondering if i kept pinging them going hey i've got like please come you know buy this stuff maybe there's some threshold where i have to interact a lot and that will make them start to kick into whatever their next plan is but like i also think it's possible that there isn't a super I called it a last mile problem yesterday when I ended up calling Steve who turned out to be some scammer in some other country who I literally heard a human voice I that's a last mile problem to me because that's like that's like they don't they don't like they haven't realized just how unconvincing Steve is like you got me on the phone with Steve but I'd have to be I'd have to have some real blind spots to think Steve wanted to buy this couch from me based on all the other sort of context clues but anyway i i don't think they've gotten far enough along where they figured out what they're trying to do with this i think they're just firing out all this crazy ai stuff and and and you know spam and stolen stuff and just seeing kind of what sticks but again i am like looking at this stuff with like putting like a jeweler's like what are

those things that do like a magnifying glass jeweler's magnifying glass on one eye trying

to be like is love is ladybug cross a real thing i think you even mentioned i think you dropped

ladybug as a name on yesterday's show without more detail because you were being a little bit

careful and i thought it was a real that's it tells you i thought that was a real person yes

well honestly didn't i make the argument that like well if you were trying to blend in you wouldn't choose a name like ladybug yeah i was actually trying to but then somehow later on after the show you told me her full name quote unquote her full name and i was somehow like oh yeah with the full name that seems totally fake and it was like how could that change things that much but like yeah it's just like this weird like I mentioned to you like just the only way to describe it sort of uncanny valley sort of but like not in the depths of the uncanny valley as we knew it 15 years ago right like really truly like right on the edge of being everything seems totally right about this except I love your beautiful woman face or whatever like her bestie

wrote on a comment thread or like yeah like one of these people uh her post you know it's a picture of her and then her her friend says one friend says you all kept you are so beautiful my friend happy mother's day well that would be a real thing people do that but then somebody else let's see um uh so this person named kavik gunsa kavik is spelled k-a-y-e-v-i-c gunsa now is it possible that's like an eastern european thing maybe but it sounds more like a bot trying to generate a name somebody named kavek gunsa posts all caps you are so beautiful my friend happy mother's day and then emily morgan very nondescript name responds kavek gunsa you are my beautiful friend like would you really like if if i posted a picture on on social media and you said to me you are so beautiful my friend happy father's day and I responded Andrew Walsh you are my beautiful friend like it's it's all it's so close and the photos are so convincing and they've again they've just I'm just repeating myself over and over again but Andrew I just feel like I just got red pilled way hard on this whole situation and I don't stand a chance going forward can you imagine when this shit gets better than it is now are you singing I'm sorry, I'm sorry. not your beautiful friend change your name to cave gunsa then we can talk um but again this is what's what's the what's kind of interesting right now and what it'll be a nice little i guess we could say um experiment or case study or whatever you want to call it is i have now been texting with a person a woman who seems like uh this person i feel i can say this person is named megan uh they have texted me the plan is for them to come get these chairs in about four minutes oh

nice i how do they like music would they like to join us for the music for your weekend segment

i can ask but if if a car starts rolling down to the end of the county road and into my driveway with an actual person and presumably like her husband here to get these chairs and give me like 150s of dollars and carry them away there will at least be some sort of brick and mortar reality left in the world but if she doesn't show up i'm gonna be so my world is gonna be so rocked because this is a person i actually made up a burner phone account i would not even give this

person my actual cell phone number and you make a like a google voice account i made a google voice now let me ask you this what if it's somewhere in between the two what if a car does actually show up but then like somebody who looks like they're made of molten metal gets out of the car and the

other the other one is a t1 but it's forming into like different people based on my expectations

it's digitally glitching a little bit how do you feel i mean as long as the 150 is real right as

long as the money honestly that's the real that's that's the real question how are they going to get these goddamn chairs out of that room because walt and i got to get to uh demoing those rooms so yeah anyway i i don't know if i've described any of this well or said anything interesting but i just be keep your head on a swivel folks that's what i'm saying it is it is wild out there like that this stuff has gotten really good i mean really effective it's really bad how good it's gotten but i mean i i never thought i'd find myself in this position where i'm genuinely unsure if i'm talking about humans or non-humans and i don't like that feeling

he was a t800 i knew i had that wrong all right let's do a little music for your weekend andrew

i don't know if the what did you say t the t800 or i don't know if the t800 is going to show up to get these chairs or not but um if that happens during the music for your weekend i'll just we'll

just integrate it into the show well i had a song that i was gonna i was ready to play for you luke i was excited i had it a few days ago in fact i sent it to um a friend of mine and i said hey you might like this song and she wrote back oh I do like that song uh do you like this band dead I've been really obsessed with them for uh for the past six months I'm like yes I am obsessed I love them so much but I guess I'm not as obsessed as I thought because this friend put you know when I say dead that's uh did I already spell this d-e-h-d is this band that you and I like a lot you interviewed them on live wire once I think and I was jealous of that um and by the way they're coming to town in November I'm gonna get tickets I think the Neptune Luke um oh fun Yeah. But anyway, I did not realize I guess I'm not as obsessed as I thought because I didn't realize they just released a brand new record like last week or the week before. Oh, cool. And it's called Poetry. And I mean, I'm in that thing again. Like we can we can do this one of two ways, Luke, for my music, the easy way or the hard way for my music for your weekend today. I can just play the full record or for the next nine music for your weekends. I can just play every track off of this record one by one because that is what is going on with this band. I've never heard a song by them I don't like. It makes it difficult to choose just one. I'm going to go with the first track off of this new record that just came out a couple of weeks ago. Again, the band is dead. The album is called Poetry.

The band is called Dead. They're very much alive.

Yes. Did I put them in the grave?

You just said the band is dead, which I just wanted to clarify.

If someone just walked into the room. They seem to be very full of life, and I appreciate that.

Yeah, they're lively. When I chatted with them, and it was on Zoom, so, you know. Oh, yeah. But they were both extremely alive and super pleasant and really fun to talk to.

So cool. This is the first track off of poetry. It's called Dog Days.

Everyone I know is a broken heart Ghosted, coasting, feeling free Ah, windows open, infinity It's a bad boy in a fast car It's a glass half full that's knocked over

No notes, objectively perfect, whatever your catchphrase is, just the whole thing.

You know what's interesting, because I will be honest with you, my a lot of the music from dead that i've listened to is you know they've got a a male singer and a female singer and sometimes when you have a band like that you'll kind of go towards one or the other you'll be like i like it when you know she's singing i like it when he's singing i think that they're both amazing and good you know in their own ways and and in different ways and like that's kind of rare that a band can have that going on and it's like it's all working yeah and also like

such complimentary voices that sometimes i literally can't even tell them apart until i'm like watching the video and they make some really great videos do you know um this is uh just for you luke i guess our friend nikki you know you know our friend nikki um she is friends with the guy who apparently makes all of or most of their music videos she grew up in chicago and apparently they're good friends with and i really like their videos there's one that in michigan she grew up in outside of Chicago I think okay yeah yeah outside of Chicago so anyway a little personal connection

there as well I really I don't think I've watched their videos but I bet they're wild yeah they are

kind of one of them the first one I saw I think maybe when I was first falling in love with them is a very black and white fish eye kind of a bunch of like kind of uh freaks and geeks out in the I don't know in the desert somewhere just sort of like you know singing and dancing around it reminded me of like the smashing pumpkins videos sort of uh back in the day only a little bit updated so anyway can i i'll stop now but just cannot say enough good things about this band maybe we'll

see it i'm gonna check that out you know what i'm gonna do today andrew i'm gonna mow the lawn i'm gonna listen to dead and i'm going to um i'm gonna everything's gonna everything's gonna be

right in the world on a friday afternoon and by the way i also like that their songs like they tend to be like three minutes or less or whatever not not that i don't enjoy a long song either but they just like they know what they do well and they just have these great so i listened to the record like three times in a row last night while i was updating drivers baby driver they wrote that

movie about you right right um okay i'm getting messages that this uh the the very human very real very not terminator furniture purchaser is five minutes away i got that message two minutes ago so now we maybe have just enough time for me to play you my little selection this week i've been on a Kurt Weill kick of late, Andrew. I mean, I always love Kurt Weill, but what it is is I'm starting to get a lot of that Tom Sharpling Best Show, clips from the Tom Sharpling Best Show popping up on my TikTok feed. For a while, it was all office hours with Tim Heidecker and those guys, but now DJ Doug Pound and stuff, but now it's going more towards Tom Sharpling, and Kurt Weill is a pal of Tom Sharpling's, and so it kind of just made me think, oh yeah, what's Kurt Weill been up to? Well, he's got a record out a little while ago. It's called Back to Moon Beach. So it's a relatively new release. I'm going to say about the last year or two. And I was scrolling through it this morning just to kind of check it out. And I saw two words jumped out at me on one of the tracks. And they were the words Passenger Side, which is one of my all-time favorite Wilco songs. And I thought, could it be that one of my favorite singers, Kurt Vile, is covering one of my favorite songs, Passenger Side by Wilco? And it is. And lo, it came to pass, Andrew, that Kurt Weill doff-covered the music of Wilco. So can we hear a little passenger side, Kurt Weill's version of the great, great Wilco song?

Hey, wake up. Your eyes weren't open wide. For the last couple of miles You've been swerving from side to side You're gonna make me spill my beer If you don't learn how to steer Passenger sign Passenger side Side I don't like riding On the passenger side Roll another number for the road Yeah.

You're the only sober person I know. All right, Andrew, we're going to have to do a crossfade, the rare Music for Your Weekend crossfade, because something is happening. Something is arriving.

Jalapeno, jalapeno, jalapeno.

I do believe the people are here for me to get these chairs out here. So can you just hit pause in our space-time continuum, and I'll be right back?

Oh, sure. Do you want to listen to JoJo's song while we do that? I'll just play some of this ambient JoJo song for Music for Your Weekend.

Well, are we just going to wrap it up then?

I might as well. This is JoJo's song. We set it up before. It's called Black Willow. This is our Music for Your Weekend, submitted by our dazzling donor today, JoJo Moran Douglas. Don't forget to check out his work.

That's right. Thanks for listening, folks. Thanks for being part of TVTL. We'll be here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you in the meantime. Have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves. Go little sluggers. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Amen. Thank you.

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