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It's weird when you introduce somebody that you say like this is and then their name, you know, like this is Frank It sounds pretty normal when you think about it this Walk up with a person and be like hey guys this This stuff right here is Frank Excuse me, what is that this this is Frank? That's what that is Jesus It's like when you call somebody on the phone, you know, they say, hello, you have to say, this is, hello, this is Dimitri. Can't be like, hello, I am Dimitri. But then if you go up to someone in person, the rule flips, then it's the exact opposite, actually, you know, if I walk up to you, then I have to say, hi, I am Dimitri. I can't walk up to you and go, this is Dimitri.

hello did you say hello no i said hello but that's close enough making friendly conversations like

this is a big part of greeting and serving guests by greeting the guest warmly and holding brief conversations as you serve them you say to our guests we're glad you're here for one thing i

I have no shame before another mortal. All my shame is between myself and Christ. I'll never drop my eyes to another human being.

You guys think I'm some kind of wimp, but I'm not. I am tough, and I'm strong, and I love to splash around in chilly water.

You're hungry, you're confused, your face is streaked with dry tears, and you don't even remember when you started crying.

That's a pretty boring story. I wouldn't tell that to anyone else.

Yeah, I can feel it going south as I'll say it.

Well, all right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It can take hours. It can take days. It can take weeks. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I can't believe you're still on the air. Coming to you from the beautiful south waterfront of Portland, Oregon, where...

Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful.

It was kind of drizzly and rainy this morning, but I am looking at some blue skies over the Willamette River and a couple of cats, Miss Holly Golightly, a tuxedo cat, and then the oft-featured on the show, Bubbles Burbank, an insane bangle kitten. And we are going to it's a rear it's a rare cat cast today because I'm at Becca's house. And so I will probably at some point be interrupted by Bubbles, who as I was setting up this little road kit, as I call it, she immediately started sniffing it. She got up on the microphone. I want to take a picture because it was very cute. But then she sensed that I wanted something from her and then she decided to never do it again. But anyway, here we are. It's a Monday. It's episode 4,219 in a collector series.

Let the fun begin.

And it's going to be a good one. I did learn a lesson this weekend to be careful what you search for on the Internet or just think carefully before you make Internet searches.

Welcome to the Internet.

Nothing has happened, but I want to I want to get ahead of something here on the show on this Monday. Also, Slice Soda. Remember Slice Soda from the 80s and 90s? It's back. And, well, kind of. It's sort of back, I guess. I'm back, baby! We'll tell you what's going on with that. And we're going to talk to this guy, longest running co-bro of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is Andrew... Yes, good dude. Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I don't know where to begin. Should I begin with punctuation? I have a question for you regarding punctuation that is so just ear-bleedingly boring. You will fire me by the end of my first sentence. Should we start with that?

I think I can deal with that question, Mark, if you feel like it's going to be interesting, period. That's how I talk now, by the way, because I am a big voice-to-text guy, and I'm always adding the punctuation in to make sure that the AI program or whatever they use is making me seem sort of grammatically correct. But yes, to answer your question, I would love to hear your punctuation conversation here on this Monday.

I love that you've already given me a tangent to play with though, because before we get into my original punctuation, let me reply to what you just said, which is I know that feeling of like, first of all, we've gotten voicemails from listeners. In fact, I got one recently where somebody did not realize that they forgot to switch their brain over to voicemail mode. And they were like, hey, Luke and Andrew, period, just calling in because.

You guys were talking about Radish's period. Did you know, question mark?

That's one of my great fears, by the way, is that when I'm talking into one of the voice-to-text programs, it will think that I'm saying the word period instead of adding a period. And, boy, that could go wrong if you think about that.

Well, that's the other part of this is you and I use different phone technologies. You use one of them Apple products, I believe. It's called an iPhone, I think, right? It's like an iPod.

I picked it down at the holler. One of them Apple products.

It's an iPod that you can talk into, if I understand that correctly. And I use some sort of a Google Android product. But anyway, for the longest time, when I use text-to-speech, it's usually when I'm driving in the car, but not exclusively. But, you know, I'd maybe be texting you, Luke, comma, I'm going to be dialing up a little bit late, period. Is that okay with you? And that would come out totally fine. And at some point, and I don't know what update this was, but several months ago, the program decided, oh, we understand where the periods go now. They didn't tell me that. No robot emailed me. Nobody tapped me on the shoulder and said, hey, you don't need to say period anymore, but you still need to say apparently the rest of the punctuation. I don't know how it works now. And so the word period does litter some of my text messages these days. And then I try not to say it. Right. And so, I mean, I think we live in an age where people sort of realize if you see the word period in a text, you know, in a text like that, you can probably figure out from context what's going on. But I could have used a little like a heads up on that.

Except, I mean, there is not another word that both has a grammar implication, but also just a kind of sort of seriousness implication. Like, if you were to say to me, hey, Luke, you texted me, hey, Luke, we've got to try to keep the shows shorter, period. I see what you're saying. That's an intense statement. I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? The word period, when it jumps onto a sentence, if I said to you, hey, Andrew, like, you know, such and such, such and such, period, that's like, wow, are we still, like, is TBTB falling apart?

Hey, Luke, we got to stop with the punctuation talk. period that hits different okay think about how elevated the stakes just got exactly here's why i bring up punctuation by the way i'm glad you asked by any chance and i don't think there's any way that you would be able to look this up on the fly i know that you're having some is a little bit of janky computer issues on your end but do you think there's any chance i'm only

in by the way the i'm i'm in a like a surrounded by glass skyscrapers of modernity in the shadow of oregon health sciences university like i'm in basically the like south lake union of portland i'm in the basically the tech hub of portland and yet yes my internet connectivity because i'm on wi-fi is a little spotty so um i don't want to endanger that but i could try to search for

something on my phone you think that people are um do you think you're the only person using a laptop in that area you think there might be other people also engage with uh technology No, I just mean like, yeah. So I guess Portland is not really a tech hub in the way you think of Seattle being a tech hub. But I mean, certainly there's plenty of techie business going on in that part of the state. But anyway, what I wanted to ask you was, do you think there's any chance that on your show sheet on Friday, you put a colon where you don't usually put a colon? Colon is another word that I guess you want to be maybe a little bit careful of. Hey, Luke, we have a problem with your colon. Right.

What are you, my doctor?

But anyway, I'm just noticing now as we dial up that everywhere on the website and on the RSS feed where I post the podcast every day, our show was like number sign or hashtag 4218 colon. I'm watching here. And the thing is, like you and I have done, I don't know, a few grand of these shows and we never put a colon in the show title. But sometimes, you know, usually my process is I take your show sheet, I copy it over to my show sheet. And then at the end of the day, I just copy and paste everything over. I'm just kind of like a robot. I'm not really thinking. I'm just like kind of copying and pasting things. And now on Monday morning, as we speak, literally as we speak, I'm going in and I'm editing the colon out of the website and the podcast and those who've already heard the show.

Do you think maybe I left a superfluous colon on the end of the number 4218? That's your question.

Well, that is my question, but I want to be very clear here. It's not an accusatory question because I very easily could have added it myself in like just moving things around and mindlessly just putting a colon in there. But I just thought, I mean, interesting is obviously the wrong word here, but to me it might. It piqued my interest to know what the source, what the origin story of this errant colon is. By the way, I do have an errant colon, too, which is why I'm going back to the doctor.

Yeah. They do have a surgery now for that, thankfully. I think it's—well, first of all, this is a show where we've gone months, I believe, with me listing the wrong actual year on the show sheet just over and over and over again. I often get the show number wrong, like what episode number we're on. So the show sheet is just replete with errors most days from me. I am always touched by – because sometimes I'll try to write the – like how I want to talk about a story, I'll kind of – I'll sort of telegraph it a little bit in how I write it into the show sheet. Sure, because it's your notes. maybe today would say yeah just kind of a it's a way for me to organize my thoughts of like what might be interesting about this thing that we're not going to get to like you know but but hope springs eternal hope is a funny thing andrew and i always hope and think we're going to talk about the top stories so when i'm putting them into the show sheet into the top stories like for instance today it's like slice is back exclamation point sort of which is to just kind of think about how we might want to talk about it or whatever um and i sometimes i'll put not even a joke in there but just some little thing and you'll you almost always note it actually considering we do this five days a week so many of these show sheets are coming into your life i'm i'm i'm touched that you actually usually kind of read my like little notes to myself essentially in there about about what i think the interesting way into the topic is because you'll sometimes comment on that we won't even get to the story but you will comment on the minutiae of how i'm how i'm kind of filling in the show

sheet so all that is because i'm hoping you're going to durst yourself honestly i'm looking for i'm looking for the little slip up in there where you say you killed them all

um but uh i in this particular case when i was this morning or actually it was even last night when i was changing the number on the show sheet i do not remember encountering an errant colon well um so i think it may not have originated with the show sheet that i don't remember seeing that

and going like oh that doesn't usually go there i have an answer for us at least a partial answer as it relates to my specific question to you i realize that i have a record of the email that you sent me on friday three days ago that's like we have may 31st 7 49 a.m tvtl breaking news and as hard as i search on this email i find nary a colon so at some point during my during the show maybe i was just getting a little itchy i had an itchy colon finger good lord um god god i know i know i wish i could take it back to luke but uh but i can't we just power forward but uh anyway yeah no that did not originate with you but i'm really really glad i started the show there with

a little uh punctuation discussion i'm always into things where i'm exonerated yeah that's and i feel very i feel very exonerated now from uh from that now speaking of things i might need exoneration from uh i was listening to you know my new favorite show now is that new york times product the interview with lulu garcia navarro and david marchese the way that i remember how to say his name is i just say my mind you so marchese oh okay that's a good one and then and then I that's what I do so uh that's the show I've been talking about on our show a little bit because they do an interview with someone and then they take a couple of days and then they call them up and then they talk to him for a few more minutes and it's a very I think it's a really really clever way to do it and just the conversations are great the interviews are really awesome Lulu when she was talking to the uh Ted Sarandos the one of the CEOs of Netflix She disclosed that When she was talking about The search algorithm Or not the search algorithm But the algorithm on Netflix And how that's such an important part of their business That her husband, Lulu's husband Is a huge horror fan And he doesn't want her messing up His kind of results on Netflix So his account Because she likes romantic comedies Lulu Garcia Navarro's husband's account On Netflix is Don't touch this Lulu Which is just a dazzling Deet

You know it's just like

A really nice way To kind of like highlight this thing About the way that we Some people are very careful and very precious About the kinds of movies Ideas that are getting delivered to them Her husband doesn't want his horror algorithm Getting blown up by Hope Floats Or something So I really really like the show And I really

like the films of Richard Linklater who is the guest this week he's got a new movie out and he

Thank you.

was David Marchese was interviewing him he's just a really interesting guy I for the record and probably the only person I should go back and rewatch it but I was never as obsessed with Dazed and Confused as everybody else was it just it I don't know it didn't like it was a sensation amongst people my age and for me it was it was sort of fine like it was well made but it didn't

blow my mind what was your take on Dazed and Confused just absolutely obsessed with it and like because of the time that I was watching it yeah with me and my friends like I think if I were to see it now for the first time it wouldn't hit in the same way and I don't know I it's a movie that's so tied to not just my youth but like a very important time of my youth which was just I kind of like the later stages, later stages, you know, the the later years of high school where, yeah, that movie came along right at a time where my life was kind of changing. I started having a lot of friends. I was the exact age. I started having a lot of friends. That sounds boastful. But my point is, I had almost not I shouldn't say zero. That's hurtful to the to the to the kids who were friends with me before that. But like I had I had a lot of trouble like making friends and I didn't have like a big group of friends until like, you know, pretty well into high school. And it was around this time where I'm sort of living like a very, you know, 90s high school summer with a big group of kids and we're smoking weed and this movie comes out and it's about a bunch of kids who were born. I guess that movie takes place in the year I was born and they're all getting ready to graduate and they're all smoking weed. And it's just like a day in the life of like just high school, like, you know, slack jaws or whatever. Like it would that movie. I watched it all the time. Me and my friends watch it all the time. Like I made mixtapes that had huge chunks of tape from that movie interspersed.

Well, I should go back and rewatch it because, again, I do really, really like the Richard Linklater's work. Like I thought Boyhood was just like a phenomenal, phenomenal film. Do you know he's working on this? There's there's this I think it's Sondheim, Merrily We Roll Along, which is this big musical that's getting all this attention in New York right now. he is working Richard Linklater is working on a film version of it I think they're I don't know if it's gonna be a musical or not but they're adapting it into a movie and he is once again filming it over the course of 20 years so they're just beginning I think the process of of filming

it but can I can I just jump he's got a new movie two quick Linklater notes uh in the same way like you said that you want to go back to watch days and confused the reason I said that like I don't know how it hit today if I were to watch it is my way of saying I'm not saying that I necessarily recommend it i'm not saying that if you go and watch it now you're gonna see what what it was very much a product of where i was in my life at that time you know what i mean with me and my friends or whatever so i don't know how it holds up to an adult's eyes in 2024 frankly secondly like i'm the same way with slacker slacker came before uh days and confused and you would think that that would be right up my alley right even lower budget like real sort of stream of storytelling or whatever i remember watching i i should revisit that maybe but that was another one that felt more like a kind of a a sketched out idea to me than than a than a feature film so i i'm not sure my other thing i wanted to mention about link letter is did you know and this came from a listener i just got a his connection to kind of music and and projects is he created a um like a beatles like kind of a post beatles album playlist that is actually It's featured in Boyhood. I didn't realize this, but a listener sent this in to us. It's mentioned in Boyhood where the dad character, Ethan Hawke, right, is like. Ethan Hawke. Introducing this to his son. But basically, he was so obsessed with the Beatles, and then he took all of the Beatles' post-Beatles solo records. But imagine. Oh, there's a kitty. Oh, yeah. I have bubbles. I thought I had a kitty behind me ready to pounce, but it already pounced.

Bingo's tail went into your shot a minute ago.

Oh, did you see? So he must have jumped down. Yeah, we're surrounded by cats here. I'm sorry to steal your story. I just thought you might be interested in this. It's something called the Beatles Black Album. No, I want to hear this. And it's really cool. So he has this whole theory behind it that you can read about, and it'll be more articulate than what I'm trying to express here on the fly. But essentially, he looked at the White Album and said, okay, that's a Beatles record, but it's still a bunch of their solo projects all collected, sort of. That's where they were as a band at that point. So if you go and you take George's first solo record and john's and paul's etc like he basically created this playlist of post beatles songs but arranged it in this way that was really meaningful to him and he thinks about them as an extension of the beatles and he did this i believe this is a project i believe that he created for his real life children maybe i don't know if he has a daughter but he and then then he introduced this In the words of Mike

Michael Barbaro. Oh, wow. I know. So anyway, I'll stop blabbing because you can look it up for more details, but it's something you might be interested in because I think that that era speaks to you musically.

Well, that also actually feeds into why I might go back and rewatch Days and Confused because I found this interview with Richard Linklater to be so compelling and I found him to be such an interesting, thoughtful person that it made me want to go back and kind of watch all of his. I've never heard an interview with him I've never had like I said because Because again for me Dazed and Confused Was just sort of fine I did like one of those First like before sunrise movies I think I saw that in a theater probably on a date Or something I didn't go to like I didn't follow the plot You know throughout the multiple Movies they made I don't think I really watched Waking Life although I do remember that Our guy Tim Speed Levitch From The Cruise is in Waking Life I think remember Waking Life was one where they kind of animated Over people's faces yes bodies it was kind of like live action but then they kind of cart cartoonized it a little bit and um yeah i think i saw the guy that we play sometimes on the show who is this guy that you're referencing though i don't know him well i i can't grab the audio right now because of the connectivity stuff but uh tim levitch is his name he he led a um gray line tour in new york city for many years with these just real stream of consciousness kind of like the um uh they made a movie about him a documentary called the cruise i think that the cruise was actually made by um uh by this the guy who then went on to make like a bunch of kind of big budget films like fox chase the like wrestling movie where like steve carell played the crazy dupont guy i think the guy that directed that i think maybe his first thing that he did was this really low budget documentary about this guy named tim levitt who would again he would just lead these tours of just kind of like slack-jawed tourists going around on one of those open you know like double-decker buses that doesn't have a roof and you're just kind of looking around at the buildings but the way this guy tim levitch who's like a super character would just go on these kind of like incredible monologues and soliloquies anyway i just remember that guy showing up in waking life and being like wow his ship is really coming in but all of this is to say because i never gave a lot of thought to this guy this filmmaker and then i just heard this interview with him and i was like man i just want to hear more if i have one problem with this new york times show it's that it's not long enough i wish that these interviews were like four hours long but it made me want to go back and watch what he this is a guy who has a perspective and has a thought about everything about how he's telling the story that i i mean of course that's what a director does of course they're thinking about storytelling but like i just didn't factor that in so it made me i enjoyed the interview so much that made me want to go back and re-watch his work now that i've heard him talk about the way he thinks about filmmaking and his work but this was the thing i was i had just landed from new york city and i was heading over towards becca's place this was on the weekend and his new movie is called a hitman and it's getting really really good reviews and it's um

and as they were describing it i actually had to turn the end of the interview off because when they do the call back later like they call the guy back David Marchese said well I think I can talk about the end of the film without spoiling and then Richard Linklater goes I don't care about spoilers so just go for it and then David Marchese goes alright and that's when I stopped the podcast Andrew

I was like not today Satan

exactly not today Satan I am not getting having the end of this movie spoiled for me but I've been reading really good things about this movie it's got a great review in the Times and other places and so i'm all excited about it and i'm like okay i'll be honest with you i was in the car but i um uh

did you hear that alert i did i was trying to figure if that's coming from my end or your end or did i or did i just have an idea that's reminding me that i'm supposed to go to the

live wire board retreat no shit sherlock why do you think i'm in the south waterfront of portland we have a big live wire meeting today that i'm going to right after this so i needed to be a closer to where that was happening i don't know how to turn that off by the way somehow that just decided to start doing that again that's a calendar notice for me and i mean that's been off for years why does it suddenly decide to just start donging but anyway here's the point why do any of us great question infected colon whatever it was we said earlier in the show that was regrettable um i was sitting in very very very stopped traffic so and i i would never recommend anyone look at their phone think about their phone or certainly type on their phone when sitting in bumper to bumper traffic because you never know when the traffic is going to start up that being said i'll raise in the in the in the words of um steve coogan i'll raise my hand

okay i did do it and i because i really wanted to find out if this movie hitman was playing in portland because i wanted to go see it it was how rainy was it in seattle this weekend were you guys

in that atmospheric river as well yes it was raining terribly yesterday and then throughout the night last i think it died down in the evening but then i kept on waking up during the night and

it was just so you could hear the sound of rain pouring the wind at my place yesterday blew a very I just watched it happen a very heavy outdoor like table like a you know kind of picnic table thing not the shape of a picnic table but anyway it's something that's designed to sit outside probably on a deck and that if I pick it up and move it it weighs it's got to weigh 25 pounds this table the I watched the wind just move it all the way across the deck like it was really really stormy but anyway being that it was rainy and gross I thought well this would be a perfect saturday to see a movie so i type into my phone hitman portland and then i hit search oh no

i'm just piecing together what you said at the beginning of the show i want to get ahead of

something here and it wasn't until i hit go on this that i realized this is exactly the kind of thing that that catches people i mean i watch a lot of true crime and listen to a lot of true crime stuff and it's always about the internet searches uh-huh it's the internet searches are what getcha and now i've got on my phone hitman portland yeah anything bad goes down i'm on the

record man yeah yeah that's bad news also did you also why won't they stop why won't they stop laughing at me and i'll show them all were those they're all gonna pay they're all gonna this is why i pay close attention to your show sheets luke because you never know what's gonna be inside there i uh i'm looking this up the thing the follow-up search was the big problem i searched for affordable hitman i'm not gonna pay too much for this hitman do you guys have those muffler promo code portland have you ever done that have you ever tried to find a promo code for something

like just because there will be you're buying something on the internet and it's got a little box for the promo code and you're like well maybe there's one floating around have you ever gone

down that absolutely just try it just like rabbit hole hashtag the daily or hashtag murderinos or

something are you just like trying all the popular podcast i buy far too much stuff you know online it's like make my main habit and a lot of times it'll just have that like box like hey do you have a promo code throw it in and it feels to me like well someone's getting a promo code why can't it be me so then i'll go you know uh whatever the business is i'll put their name into the internet and i'll go promo code and i'll just hope that like someone has posted the promo code or it's very general but what you get when you do that is the strangest thing have you ever done that becca that thing you get all of these like they must be bought sites because they don't have the promo code but they will say let's say that it's bed bath and beyond i'm looking for a bed bath and Let me use a current and thriving business.

Are you sure you don't want to use Radio Shack?

I'm looking for a Red Lobster gift certificate, okay? No, but, like, what will happen is, okay, let's say that it's Carraway, which is that company that I bought all that, like, you know, Instagram cookware from that has a million rules, all of which I'm violating now.

Have you read the New York Times write-up about that? I haven't read it, but apparently there was a big New York Times story.

I read enough of it. Becca sent it to me Yeah oh man And by the way the stories are real That stuff is So far it's fine but what it's not Andrew is significantly better Than The dishes that I bought At Safeway When I was very newly living Alone and just like literally needed A pot to piss in and went To the aisle where they sell a minimal Amount of like you know cookware And I would not say that this stuff is any better than the stuff that i you know the very very cheap stuff that i bought it's fine i mean it it aesthetically is really cool i love the storage of it that's the thing that really got me they have because i have kind of even though i redid the kitchen it's small i have limited space and their storage their storage game is tight so that's kind of where they got me and i will say it's working the storage part of it but the actual was it worth the money for some kind of high-end cookware not that i can tell so far what was it like an actual expose or

something because i just heard all these people buzzing like i don't know if luke should read this article or whatever is after you had talked about how you well i also haven't finished it i

started re i started reading it uh and it the my sense is the gist of it is that there's been this big proliferation of cookware and kitchen gadgetry and stuff on instagram mostly that's just very

stylized and very lifestyle kind of an aspirational lifestyle and it most of it is not living up to whatever the promises were about its non-stickability or it's whatever you know whatever they're and i should know this because most of the stuff that i buy on instagram is not because i have any evidence that it's a good product it's because when i see it displayed in a certain way it makes me think my life could look that way and then i kind of go for it now i will say this about the caraway stuff my life does look that way like you walk into this new kitchen that i did and again the way that like the storage of these pans they sit you can put them on the countertop and there are these like little slots that that are that are magnetized that are the size of the different pans that you get and those slots all all kind of stick to each other but you can separate them and they're also a drying rack so when you finish washing one of these things you can just put it right into this drying rack where it then lives it also they have they sent me this like canvas like kind of sleeve that you fit the tops of the of the pans and pots into kind of think of like something you would keep your zildjian symbols in you know if you were a drummer symbols in yeah yeah so like um and that's very i mean very like i love it it gives it actually sparks joy in me when i get done cooking something and then i wash the lid and then i slide it back into its like holster on the that's hanging on the on the pan rack so like you know there's i will say that it's it's not like it's been a complete fail i just think it's probably more expensive than it should have been but anyway all that is to say let's say that i decide to buy more caraway stuff and i will go on the internet and i will be buying something on caraway and they will say do you have a promo code and then i will go oh is there one so i'll go to google caraway promo code And what you get Are like An infinite number of websites That say Carraway promo code So they have some way of figuring out What you've searched for But this is the weirdest part It will be like Washington Post dot something Carraway promo codes It'll be like Seattle Times New York Times It's weirdly a bunch of like It's media companies But it's not them Like I don't think it's the Washington Post I don't think it's the Seattle Times I don't think it's it's Sunset Magazine it's the weirdest thing there will be all of these like clearly just like funky dark web sites that will pop up that will be telling me that they can give me the promo code for Carraway products but and they're all associated though with like the New York Times they're associated with media companies or at least that's what they've chosen to present themselves as which I just find very odd okay yeah I will I have

been to sites before i've done something similar rarely but i know i've done this a couple of times where i'm buying something online and i think oh there must be a pro you know you get to the checkout and it's like do you have a promo code for this you're like oh yeah there it kind of reminds you oh i should look for a promo code and i know i've been on websites before where i go to the like i don't think i've just googled in like let's say it's um what is that that shoe company that i uh oh we were just talking about it the other day dsw um let's say i'm on dsw and then it says promo code do you have one promo code period do you have one question mark uh I will go to I think what I usually google is promo code finder or something and I've ended up on various websites and I know that like Genevieve has a plug-in one for like she has a plug-in for her web browser I think that automatically finds them for her so I know that this is a thing but But I didn't – but usually I – so you're saying like the promo code might be hashtag NYT10 or something? Like it's associated with the New York Times?

I don't know because when you go to these websites, you also never get the promo code. That's the thing. That's why I'm saying they're very spammy because they're – and what I should do is get whatever plug-in Genevieve is working with, I guess, because that's probably the way to do it. But there are two kinds of websites that will bring back a response to this, these like extreme couponing sites like Coupon Follow. Or coupon cabin I'm doing this on my phone now I'm looking for like Carraway promo code And then like you'll get So you'll get these ones that are just like Like coupon whatever Rakuten promises to do one RetailMeNot promises to do one But then also I get a lot of ones That are weirdly associated with like media properties It'll say like Washington Post You know get a Carraway Whatever and then you go and look for it And you just it's just a bunch of links that they're just trying to get you to click on so i clicked on one of these things retail me not which is promising to give me these i'm getting a big thumbs down from becca on retail me not as a it sounds like it sounds like you've danced with that devil in the pale moonlight anyway i'm like when you get into one of these websites that's telling you we're going to give you the promo code it's just a bunch of links that when you click on that link it doesn't take you it takes you to another link kind of like when you're streaming content in a way that may not be strictly legal you'll it'll sometimes be like here's the game and then you click on it oh uh-oh traffic is light andrew it's gonna take me six minutes to get to the offices of oregon public broadcasting on macadam are you relieved to know that because i thank you i i i we are going to continue to get this kind of interruption in the show today i apologize but anyway i just think that that's kind of weird in my experience that the clearly these bot sites are i don't know if they know that i pay for the washington post in the new york times i don't know if they figured out what my what my internet pattern is i feel like what they're sometimes listing as the place where i'm gonna go get this like caraway promo code which again is not even there this is just purely a clickbait thing i think it's reflecting back to me something about my internet traffic maybe cookies maybe it knows based on where i go so like if you were somebody who had never gone to the new york times website and you went to a different website a lot that would be the skin the url skin that it would generate because it's like oh we you know we want this like we want we want to present this in a way that seems trustworthy to this person and we know because of cookies where

this person tends to hang out on the internet i have one for you here just googling around a little bit and i get the impression that this one isn't i'm by the way i'm not um i hear my tone of voice and i realize it sounds like i'm building up for a spoof i'm not this is actually me trying to be both helpful and informative that's what that sounds like uh price.com is giving me some interesting results that seem very believable and i think you'll go along so if you go to price.com and it shows you a whole bunch of different brands and also i've been googling around while we're talking and you're right some of these just seem like they they carry internet herpes um whereas price.com seems like a kind of a legitimate uh site and like here are all of your options for caraway promo codes the first one is chelsea hood 10 now chelsea hood is like a comedian right in a podcaster like that sort of makes chelsea handler well oh there is a chelsea handler i think there's a chelsea hood too i think so i'm not sure um there's um skinny use the promo code skinny use the promo code live well i also see if i uh gals on the go and i just i just double check that that's a podcast so these seem like uh legit um these seem like legit promo codes that's pretty smart emily fauver i don't know who that is maybe you do is another one so these seem like real promo codes associated with people's podcasts or whatever so that's fun i you know and i think

probably if i would have like done a more extensive search i would have probably or like i said Gotten the whatever system Genevieve is using I'm sure that that information is out there I just would usually as a Hail Mary throw out like hey find me the promo code For this and then the first like 10 results would just be So spammy that I would just get Frustrated and you know pay full price Or whatever but But I'm sure that there I'm sure That stuff is is out there because they are so I'm sure by the way Caraway and all these other companies Are running scared it's probably a great time To get a discount on these Products the New York Times writes a piece about how you're now here's the thing though we i feel like we we were ahead of the new york times when you and i and megan and lindy from the text me back podcast carefully went through the instructions for these pans like i think we were the first major you know media organization to point out how silly the whole thing was and that made almost absolutely no dent in the culture

that we were not we were not mentioned in the article they didn't cite us or source us well

I've only read the first paragraph so I can't tell you I can't tell you uh for certain I'm sure it's in the bottom of the article once said I can't I can't tell you with certitude it probably

says but I do feel like Luke Burbank contributed to this article right isn't that what they usually

put at the bottom that's right yeah sorry to cut you off right so um but no I I uh I'm I'm both totally unshocked by that news that like I got sort of hoodwinked by Instagram um and yet I don't think it'll in any way change my behavior going forward until i hire a hitman to take out the people at caraway for selling me bum bum dishes i know that we need to thank our dazzling donors

which we should do but just back to that hitman thing i was not following that um and i see that it's been out for a little bit it's hitting netflix on june 7th but it's still in theaters right now and i'm getting the impression that this might be one of those um one of those sort of limited releases in theaters uh before they can just release it online and you know me i would i probably won't watch it at home so uh i need to get to the i need to get thee to a theater to see this possibly even this week is a uh is a midweek matinee on the agenda for this andrew question mark

that could be fun hold on let me google hitman who takes groupon in seattle for my friend andrew Right.

We was hoping for some razzle-dazzle. Razzle-dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle-dazzle.

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready.

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Go. Everybody razzle-dazzle.

Everybody razzle-dazzle. Hey, let's thank some dazzling donors. These are the wonderful, generous supporters of the program Dazzling Us with a Donation of Doe, which is vital to the mission of TBTL. The mission of TBTL being curing global loneliness and also being a job for three people, which it is. Me, Andrew, and TBTL employee numero uno, John Sklaroff. We couldn't do this without folks like Laura Talbert in Baltimore, Maryland. Thank you, Laura. Laura says, Andrew, Luke, and John, I don't have anything to plug or share, so I just want to say thanks for all you do. the first year of tbtl independence has been great and i love the additional voices we hear in week in review hey a week in review viewer andrew you're the one thank you uh laura i'm so glad that you like week in review because it's uh you know it's it's it's not a light production lift and and uh andrew you by the way thank you you've been handling the last couple of weeks i'm i swear to god i know i went out for a pack of cigarettes but i'm gonna come back hey you know you know what i did i'm not gonna abandon i'm not gonna abandon you and the

weekend review babies for those who don't know what we're talking about and if you're wondering why you haven't seen them or something when we did our first tb telethon as an independent production company last year we wanted to find ways to thank people at various giving levels but we didn't have any what do they call cash in the bank money so we were we we were trying to think of ways to like kind of create things ourselves that we could give away sort of

quote unquote giveaways thank you gifts and my suggestion was a jar full of little slips of paper that say free back rub and then we ran that through uh you and john shot that down yes very

quickly um and and now you just have a big jar that says free back rubs that you just carry around everywhere it's very strange yeah but uh anyway so that's so that's why uh we started making this week in review video and i don't remember what the sort of giving level was that was associated with that but um yeah so we've been we we make those once a week we have a listener on to talk about what uh what happened on tbtl that week or something that catches their interest i will say luke i might have mentioned this to you though i'm not 100 sure we took um we took week in review on a little field trip to my uh backyard this week did i tell you about this me and yeah instead of doing it via like you know zoom or whatever um i mentioned on the show last week that my neighbor kim lives like you know just a couple of blocks from me and has really like over the top white glove service right with their garbage pickup yeah so she and i had a little conversation over my garbage bins in the backyard on friday did you have them over a fence

home improvement style and were you wearing a bucket hat because that's i think no but you

could hear the the creaky gate of kim entering my backyard which was one of my favorite love it so

that was a lot of fun yeah so anyway well it's nice to know that laura talbert is enjoying the weekend review videos laura says keep up the great work and please periodically throw in some baseball content this summer try to stop us you know you put the mariners up against some sub 500 teams and watch them just feast feast on that and uh i got i've got i got baseball fever again up until they play other good teams and then i'll have a different baseball related disease that's

probably much more angry today is the first day that i can ever remember that i'm glad the mariners aren't playing a game not because i don't want to listen to or watch a baseball game tonight but i

just the boys need a break i mean they have 17 games in a row i believe that's what i heard too

but i i didn't know the number but it's just been in the back of my head that like they came off of that terrible road trip and i am doing this by the way for laura i am for the listeners who are like i don't care about the mariners games let alone their days off i'm telling you i am do you at least care about laura yeah listeners exactly laura laura bought and paid for this content about the days the mariners don't play but yeah the mariners had that that pretty gnarly road trip on the east coast playing really good teams up and down the coast and then um and then came back and I really expected them to have a day off after that and they didn't and then they had this nice homestand but now finally they get to breathe and I'm so happy for them. I can't remember ever being so happy for a team to have a day off.

I'm totally with you. Like whenever there is not a Mariner game, I have a sort of Mariner-shaped hole in my heart because that was going to be a few hours where something was going on that I was excited about.

And you didn't have to think about your life. Sure, yeah. I know that feeling.

Exactly. Like listen, one can only tick-tock for so many hours of the day, Andrew. that

There's also got to be Mariner time. Right. And I'm with you. But, like, considering that homestand, I think they went 6-1. And they, you know, like, the idea that they have a well-earned day off where everyone's rotator cuffs can heal up a little bit and, you know, all the, like, bumps. And, you know, Cal Raleigh, the big dumper, can, like, ice up and ice down, you know, everything on him that's hurting because, like, He's squatting behind a major league batter for nine innings and getting balls hitting him off the throat and stuff. It's like, I just want Cal Raleigh on the days off to go into whatever that cryo sleep is that Han Solo is in that Princess Leia has to liberate him from. Is that all healing? He's just wanting to do that. I'm sure that Russell Wilson has a chamber that does that. Not that it's working for him. So anyway, I'm with you. Like I'm I'm even though I'll be a little sad that there's no Mariner thing to think about today. I'm really I'm very happy that they're getting a little bit of time to rest up and that it's happening after they just played really well for a sustained period of time.

Exactly. And plus, I'll bet you there's a Rainiers game tonight if you want to see how Urias is doing and who else is down there now. Yeah. So, OK, there is there's one last thing I want to say. You mentioned Kel Raleigh. His nickname is the big dumper. he gets that nickname because of the the size of his posterior you know i guess we're all just okay with that kind of freshness and baseball these days kalanick who gave that to him oh maybe i i actually don't know but my question for you is how do you feel about this uh big this big dumper seat cushion giveaway night i mean is that i mean it just seems so inappropriate to me to be focusing on this man's posterior so much well it's a complicated question because of course

uh if if he were um a woman i don't think we would talk about it the same way and so there is that element like we i guess we i guess we're talking about men's bodies and women's bodies differently i can't see it being a seattle storm promotion can you no i was gonna say but also if

he was a woman i think the conversation would be first woman on seattle mariners baseball team

that'd be an incredible story too first woman switch hitting catcher for the mariners i mean if they make it into one of those what would be really funny is if they want to just lean into the bit all the way like if if they instead of it being a seat cushion it's that weird like cushiony spongy thing that the grandmothers of america decided to install on their toilets in the 80s oh yeah there was a period of time where the toilet seats would either be like wood like a like a maple wood grain toilet seat was a thing for a while and sometimes you'd have this like kind of vinyl cushion that would go you know pad that would go over and you would sit on it and it would kind of like the air would you kind of like let the air out of it and then it would presumably reinflate a little bit when there wasn't someone sitting on it that was also around the time of like putting a lot of rugs around the base of the toilet it was a oh it was a terrible time for hygiene in america those those the 80s is true okay so first of all we did have

i believe in our downstairs like small um bathroom that just me and my dad used i believe we did have a cushy toilet seat i don't think it was a toilet seat cover though i think the toilet seat was just built that way you know it was like a it looked like it was like plastic cushiness but it was like kind of brown like leather or well let's just go with leather um but you're right i was like i don't know what you mean about the the um carpeting or you know whatever like putting carpets around the toilets but you're right we had if you bought like a set of bathroom carpets there'd be like a little bath mat maybe one for the sink and then one with a cutout that you could slide right up to the base of the toilet i forgot about that guy which i guess and i'm sure this

did happen in your household because you come from very fastidious people which is why you were such a fastidious guy but like i guess if you're washing it all the time then you know why not maybe it keeps your feet warm if you're standing there at the urinal but that's one of those ones that if you're not that thing's not getting washed on the like weekly that just seems like a real

vector for problems yeah you're right somebody a listener sent me a ticky talk the other day that was an argument for um men sitting down when they pee and i don't know like you know i i didn't like research the science on this but they did show you know some sort of illustrative image video image of what happens when somebody stands and pees into a toilet and what the splash not even splash back but like splash everywhere can look like that might be you know I'm sure

microscopically there's a lot happening right yes that we're not seeing it probably even non if you're getting it directly. You know what I mean? Like, honestly-

Like if you're just looking like it's just like splash, splash. So, yeah, it really got me thinking about that. First of all, I do clean my bathroom a lot and I clean the floor around that area. But like, yeah, maybe we should all just take a moment and sit down.

Sitting down to pee combines two of my favorite things, which is peeing and sitting down.

Yes, right.

I look forward to it. It's a little break in my day, in my hard day of podcasting, Andrew, where I'm also sitting down. This is different, though, because I'm sitting down and I'm peeing like I when I have to stand up to pee because it's, you know, I'm somewhere where that's all they have on offer or I'm on the airplane or whatever. I am always feeling a little let down. I'm feeling like this could be this could be a more pleasant experience for me. So I'm getting a look from Becca that is like when we were at the Starlight Parade on Saturday night and we saw a car that had a bumper sticker that said powered by farts. And I said, is this your bumper sticker? And she goes, not only is it not my bumper sticker, never speak of that again. That was how horrified she was.

So you're not getting one for your anniversary? That's awful. Oh, I am. Very much so.

Very, very much so. Anyway, there you go, Laura. You're welcome. A little baseball talk, mostly about toilets. Oof. Maestro? On your mark.

On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go.

Everybody rattle, dattle.

We got to thank Dave Nelson in Linwood, Washington. Dave says, hey, Luke, Andrew and John, big thanks for being a highlight of my day. I've been a listener since TBTL took over the airwaves from the men's room on Cairo. Or was it another show? I think, Dave, that it was I I think the thing that preceded us was a sports kind of talk show, I think hosted by Mike Brown kind of just a general sports talk show there had been this other thing called the men's room which I don't know when that was on and I think Ron and Don

might have taken over for that wait that was on Cairo because I was in that was KISW was that on KISW yeah if that was ever on Cairo I didn't know that but that was always the competition KISW was like they did the men's room up against Ron and Don I believe on Cairo oh okay maybe so I actually

thought the men's room was a sort of okay show i mean again i didn't listen to it enough to know their politics or whatever but like i actually when i listened to it i kind of got why people would like it if that makes sense you know yeah they're just kind of like a collegial vibe uh-huh yeah you got a bunch of guys there's like one guy with a funny voice who's chiming in and you know there was a show that i used to love called ron and fez which came out of wjfk which was the same place that don and mike came from and ron and fez was such a great show because one of the guys and I don't know if it was Ron or Fez, just had the oddest voice. It was just like, it was just so compelling to listen to. But I think, yeah, I think you're right. I think the men's room was over on KISW.

Because didn't they, didn't you used to have pieces of tape of them making fun of you that you played on TBTL? You had clips of tape.

I don't know if that was the men's room. I think that was BJ Shea's show. Oh, you're right. I think it was his producer. I think because we were getting like It was such a funny thing because we were getting Kind of written up You know in various little Publications when The show started because I guess it was kind of Unusual what we were doing or I don't know why It was just happening we were writing but it was a lot About how like I was coming over from public radio And I think that somebody at the BJ Shea show was like why are they Why is the night show on Cairo getting all this Ink and then I don't have it in front Of me the audio but he did an impression of i guess me uh being all kind of highfalutin and npr-ish and honestly that was gold that was some of the best tape that we got in the early days of the show we were just like flattered that anyone even noticed that we existed and i mean that like and the other thing is i actually really like bj bj and i were sort of friendly and um i didn't i took zero offense at the entire thing i was i was very happy for a show with a lot of listeners to be talking about our show that had

like no listeners you know this is I think I probably told you this before and um it's not a great story so I'll try to make it as long as possible but um I told you that this was a surprise so like obviously I had a radio show for like exactly one year on Cairo like it was called the Andrew Walsh show it wasn't my idea like I just did it it was what it was I have various mixed feelings about it most of them you know not super great but it was an experience that I had But Vives and I, I always forget, I think the point is I would forget that people could hear that show. Vives and I, when we were leaving Seattle to move to Los Angeles, we had kind of a big going away party, but it wasn't a professional event. It was just like, you know, all of our friends that we could think of in Seattle and we rented that basement room. The Rendezvous, where you and I had actually done TBTL events before. But it wasn't like we didn't give any toast or anything. It was just a good party space with a bar or whatever. And we rented that out. We had this big party. And I remember B.J. Shea showing up. Now, like, I had never met B.J. Shea in my life. And I'd known that he was, like, one of the, you know, bigger names on the radio. No, Bean wasn't in town at the time. I think maybe Don O'Neill came and brought him or something. And I met B.J. Shea. And, you know, rudely, like I never even listened to his show before, because I was probably just like, you know, whatever, listening to whatever I was listening to on my podcatcher at the time, probably yours truly, Johnny Dollar. Heard a special episode with Vincent Price yesterday, but I will not extend this conversation longer than it needs to be. I just remember shaking BJ Shay's hand at me like, you're BJ Shay? And he's like, yeah, I really like what you've been doing. I'm just like, there's no way you like what I've been doing. I'm like, there's no way you've heard what I've been doing. But I mean, it did occur to me, these people who take radio seriously and are in, you know, have been in radio their whole life, like they will listen to the competition. I mean, to the degree that I was the competition. But like, I'm not saying that BJ Shea was being totally honest when he said he liked what I was doing. But like it was a weird moment where I was like, oh, yeah, I guess other professionals and people in various walks of life are listening to this radio show where me and Nick Jarn are just trying to like take Kanye West's statements to the paparazzi and turn them into slam poetry or whatever we were doing on the on the night show at that time.

there is a little bit of a like a i was gonna say fraternity but that sort of means it's only dudes i guess but like there is a community of the people who kind of make radio in a town and whatever you you know seen in like you know howard stern private parts or something i think most of the time it's actually pretty friendly because everyone just realizes this is kind of a challenging job and like you're kind of singing for your supper every single day and there used to be our friend bean baxter used to like i think he was sort of the organizer of this there used to be these like just like like weirdly i think because everyone worked in morning radio weirdly early dinners that he would put together that would just be at like a mexican restaurant in fremont and you'd roll up it'd be like you know four in the afternoon and it'd be like bob rivers bj shea uh you know like bean it'd be like kind of this all of the people and this is what i'm saying is kind of only interesting to um you know people who are hardcore seattle radio listeners um but uh like uh like listener dave apparently uh but like it would just be all the kind of people who made seattle radio who made like seattle talk radio essentially and or like morning show radio and everybody just kind of get together and hang out and just kind of compare notes and stuff and it was always a very friendly environment so i'm not surprised to hear that bj was was at your going away party and was and was uh a bonaduce used to be at these things Oh, right. Of course. Danny Bonaduce.

Right, yeah. Was Steve Scher there too? I feel like I remember you saying this, but maybe public radio was not as present as they were. But I will say it was touching when BJ introduced himself. I was like, oh, wow. That really sticks with me for a reason.

I was I went down this whole rabbit hole yesterday about the sports talk station in San Francisco because they wrote up a big kind of profile of the morning show on the sports state. Well, there's a couple of sports stations in San Francisco, but there's I forget the exact call letters because I'm not a Bay Area guy. But like there was a very popular Bay Area morning sports talk show that was like it was like two guys. It was like Mike and Mac or something, you know, and they had been like they were a very popular show for many years. They'd done the show together for 20 years. And then one day, you know, this is what's happening in commercial radio. Some some new entity had like bought the cluster of stations. And now they were, you know, working for whatever weird named organization, not organization, company. And they fired one of the morning show guys, but not the other. And the show they were like They all figured at some point we'll probably get canned What they didn't expect was them to fire one of the guys And not the other And so the guy who stayed on There didn't seem to be any bad feelings So one of the guys stayed on And now he's got a new sidekick Guess who his new sidekick is Andrew His former producer Because that's what happens That's how all this stuff works And nothing against former producers becoming talk show hosts Because you and I both took that path To get to talk show hostery But this is what stations love to do Because it's a cost saving measure you used to have two hosts and a producer and the hosts were probably making pretty okay money, but now you can have a host and a, and a producer host and, and, and you, you know, you, you've, you've cut costs there, but I'd never heard of this show. I knew nothing about it, but there was something about a guy who worked in radio for 20 years who is now looking into his options of doing stuff on YouTube that I just thought like, well, that's, I was going to say that's going to be me, but it already is me. It has been me. But but that's like I fear that that's my future. But, Andrew, that's my past and my present.

Well, to go. Well, maybe that brings it back to this dazzling donor message. Like, it is true that, like, you know, you and Jen started this thing on Cairo Radio and Dave was listening and then it did go away. But I mean, luckily, you just said, OK, well, we'll just keep on going as a podcast. Luckily, you worked with some pretty smart people at Cairo who had already established TV Tales, a podcast. That's why I was listening to you guys on the East Coast while you still were a radio show. And so, you know, I know that you talk about some of the dark days of making that transition from radio into podcastery in some episodes that you have some relatively deep regrets over. But either way, you kept grinding it out and then, you know, podcasting would become more popular. Like what? Like three, four, five years later. So luckily, you know, you were able to strike while the iron was still getting warm, as they say.

Yeah, exactly. Thankfully, because if we were. I think that's why when I read this article about a guy who I'm assuming made really good money, San Francisco is a huge market, and I'm sure that this guy is well set up and also could be very successful doing other things. But I read that with some amount of anxiety because I just think about how really, really challenging it is to launch something new in 2024. And then and then and this does bring us back to the dazzling donors. Then I feel tremendously grateful for people like Dave Nelson and the fact that we have been doing this for 15 years. We're not just like starting our we're not starting our live streaming, you know, call in show tomorrow, Andrew, and hoping that we can attract an audience. These tens of listeners like Dave Who started listening back in the Cairo days Have just been so loyal to the show Like I have this weird anxiety around like Is TBTL going to make it as a podcast 15 years in But then it's like well we have Somehow we did this And it exists And we're not starting from scratch We're not both just recently laid off from our radio jobs Trying to figure out what the next phase Of the medium looks like And I'm very I'm very relieved to be in that position again thanks to folks like dave dave says um i had the good fortune of running into you guys at the duchess after that search for a drinking spot husky ducks game 2013 sent you from the ram in you village that night uh with you both bill radke and i'm pretty sure genevieve in tow i was behind the bar and ended up taking a shot of jameson with luke after me that does not sound like me i wonder if he's thinking of someone else well probably iced tea for you after a husky game marauding the streets of montlake i forgot radke and toe none of this would lead me to do a shot

of jameson no boy i do remember i i this is sort of a lost memory for me and not because of the shots of jameson it's all it's all it's all coming back to me now that's right i went to a game with you two and this was i feel like we were pre-funking before the game right or was this after the game

Oh, that probably was the case, I'm sure. Dave says, Luke, you turned that encounter into podcast gold the following Monday with Jen. So that's how long ago it was. Jen was still on the podcast side of TBTL. I've held that episode close as a favorite. Well, until today's gem. Well put, Dave. Well put, sir. Dave just knows that whatever happened on today's show is going to be also amazing. that this show each day is a new and exciting adventure into podcasting and they're all hits shout out to everyone in the TBTL universe listeners, supporters and our very own three musketeers your show is a beacon of positivity to look forward to every day here's to many more memories aw nice Dave thank you and thanks for thanks for making me look good in front of Bill Radke so that when we went in the Duchess he realized that you know we do have and that's the number one goal here is to impress my he was like the obi-wan to my luke skywalker in my early radio days because he was just not that much older than me but just enough like i was the intern and he was like the morning edition host with all the jokes and i just i was like uh i can't think of a good analogy but i was just like you know i would just sit at his feet and just be like what do i do to be more like this guy this guy's my absolute hero so the fact that He now sits at my feet and worships because he saw me and listener Dave do a shot of Jameson is a nice feeling.

There was also that moment where Dave stabbed him with a lightsaber and Radke just like became just a pile of clothes, like a button down shirt and a nice pair of slacks.

I know. Why did Radke give up so easy on that? That was surprising to me. I thought he was going to fight a little bit harder. Me too, man. He just placed his lightsaber above his head. He did. And just like let him just kind of. And I just like at the end, though, it's just like it's a pair.

of comfortable shoes, a pair of khakis and a button-down. I can't, I'm actually having trouble picturing what Radke dresses as, but I figure as a public radio professional somewhere in that vein. No, it's

exactly that. Sensible shoes, some sort of, yeah, khakis and some kind of collared shirt, but loose-fitting, comfortable. Yeah, that's, you've described the exact look, the exact aesthetic, the fit.

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man! It's not from a female.

You know what we didn't do today, Andrew? We didn't get to the top story, as predicted. But that's because this slice topic is a rich and wonderful thing that we need to explore in its fullness tomorrow. So before I head out of here to this board meeting, let's do a little emails or V-mails.

Yeah, this is an email that I've been wanting to share with you from listener Mary, and we've heard from Mary before. Now, I want to say that, like, this also stems from my ongoing, you know, struggles with garbage collection in my neighborhood, which, as I say that, like, I'm just I'm exhausting myself by saying and I know that we've tapped that topic quite a bit lately and it's getting a little bit tedious. Having said that, there was a component of me being charged these extra fees on my garbage bill that I sent a note into Seattle's Rants and Raves. I'm sorry, Rant and Rave column. And they never published it. You mentioned this on the show recently. Honestly, I wrote about this in the newsletter a few weeks ago. I revisited that rant that I sent into them. I actually revisited it with Genevieve. The story goes like this. I was about to go on KU actually speaking of Radke I was about to go on Radke's show a couple of weeks ago and I was going to be on with Joni Balter who is the former like editorial page editor of the Seattle Times and I was going to make it a little bit at the end of the show to see if Joni would have any advice for me on how to how to more successfully write a rant and rave column in order to get it into the paper so I thought it was a good idea too and this is a true story the night before I was down downstairs uh Genevieve was working at her desk and I said hey um I think I have an idea for tomorrow when I'm on Radke's show I'm gonna ask Joni to help me punch up my rant and rave and Genevieve said you're what and I was like oh did I not tell you I sent a rant into the Seattle Times about our garbage situation and she said you did what like she had no idea that I'd been turning to the digital pages of the Seattle Times uh every day waiting to see if they had published my rant and I was like oh yeah here let me read it to you and I went back in my email and I found it the original text that I sent to the Seattle Times and I read it to Genevieve and I watched her face change as I read this and I saw for the first time it's like stepping out into the light when you've lived in a cave your whole life I saw my words reflected in her face and I realized oh I hear it now I understand why the Seattle Times did not run this it was It was unhinged, my submission. I know I read it on TBTL moments after I wrote it as a bit of a bit, but I don't have it in front of me right now. I'm not going to reread it, but it was unhinged even by rant and rave standards. So Genevieve's reaction to that helped save me from making a further ass of myself on KUOW. I feel like I scrapped that idea. All that comes back to listener Mary, who wrote in one time after long before I submitted anything to the Seattle Times. You and I read a rant and rave that we thought was kind of funny in its cantankerousness. And we were having some fun with it on the show. And then we got a note from Mary, if you'll recall, Luke, who said, yeah, that was my rant that I sent. And it was about people dancing weirdly in commercials. Remember that?

Yes.

So Mary wrote in. I realize that we're really tight on time here. But Mary says, I've been listening with interest to the rant and rave talk, not to brag, but I've had a fairly good rate of acceptance of my submissions, including subjects such as. Are you ready for this? Skeletons. all this skull business tattoos and day of the dead are gross the good parts are us on the outside catalytic converters of course they are stolen who buys them nobody's cutting the thing off of their own car and selling it shopping cart wheels we can put a plane in the air but we put four wheels in a basket and one of them wobbles marry marry me man this is so great freezing restaurants if your customers are sitting in parkas with their hands in their armpits it's time to turn up the heat sourdough bread terrible sour is in the name for god's sakes bubbles on first ave a rare rave from me someone had a bubble machine in an apartment on first ave and they were shooting bubbles into the street it was delightful people on commercials who can't dance already commented on by TBTL. The new...

Disgusting all-body deodorant. A woman actually sprays whatever that is down her underwear on TV. Gross. Talk to your doctor. I don't want to see or think about what's going on with you. This was discussed on the G. Scott and Ursula show on Cairo. There are more, but that's a good start. And then do we have time? Do you want to hear what Mary says I should have written to get it actually printed in the Times? Rant to the city department who has been charging me for extra garbage. I happen to be a garbage ninja. my cans are pristine at all times there was no extra garbage no top flopping all garbage is always well inside the can top tight after contacting the department and they admitted that they didn't have a leg to stand on twice i was informed that because i had complained twice even though i won both times i am now out of challenges i threw the red flag one and still lost a time out question mark yours and aggravation mary okay that is expertly written from a proven

winner andrew exactly would you consider just submitting changing the end yours and aggravation andrew and send it in or i guess are anonymous but what send would what if you send in mary's submission and if it gets printed then we know that mary is absolutely the probably recognized master of submitting these because i i have to say the way she wrote it i could see that getting

published absolutely mary is as really is really good at this and there's more humor in hers i mean i think i thought i was being funny in mine but it really just comes in it was just too it was too much of an inside joke by the way i was my timing was off there when i said yours in aggravation i think that was mary signing off to you and i in this email not to the seattle times okay um i don't think i want to be in the rant and rave business anymore right now i'm feeling a little bit stung a little embarrassed by the last one although i do just yesterday i thought of a rave that i wanted to send in and i can't remember it right now but i remember thinking something as mary would say delightful happened to me over the weekend or in the past week or so that i kept thinking about and how it made me happy and i want to send in a rant a rave about that i don't want to just be the person who sends in rants you know what i mean i want to um i want to celebrate the joys of life as well so i think if i submit something again i think i want it to be a rave

unless you get your garbage bill this month and you've got another charge in there and then oh

if that's the case i'm marching down to the seattle times i'm marching down to the seattle of times and I'm handcuffing myself to the editor's desk. You're driving over

to Mercer Island to wherever the Blethens live and you're setting up shop in front of their home in front of their estate. That's right

I'm driving there in a garbage truck in fact

Yes. Alright the great email Mary and congratulations on all your success in the rants and raves. That is a real template for how to do it. They're so good Alright we should probably wrap things up here today. I have to go to an eight hour board meeting Andrew. Can you imagine anything I want to do? Did you set it up?

Did you call for this? Was this your idea?

Oh, I did. I've been calling for this for months, and I can never get everyone to agree to sit around in a room with a whiteboard and decide how I could be a better host. Hey, can I join? We'll zoom you in. P. Fletch will be there, so I've got one ally, at least. Anyway, all right. Thanks, everybody, for listening. We're going to be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio. For you, I will be back in the Madrona Hill studio. In the meantime, have a great Monday. take care of yourselves enjoy your day off mariners and please remember no mountain too tall

and good luck to all

so i want you to get up now i want all of you to get up out of your chairs i want you to get up right now and go to the window open it and stick your head out and yell I'm as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take this anymore

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