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to a thursday edition of tbtl the show just might be too beautiful to live we are living in the midst of a podcast boom my name is luke burbank i am your host that's a tuna bro coming to you from the madrona hill studio perched high above the mighty columbia where it's finally happened my friends the weather has turned it is absolutely gorge oh ma pa it's just beautiful and there's no going back and i'm talking to you whoever controls the weather we're not going back to how it was earlier this week we're staying with this for the next three to four months please except for the grass allergies, which I am suffering from today mightily. I mowed the lawn last night and I unleashed all of the grass pollen apparently in the known world and it went right into my nostrils. These are African wild dogs in Botswana. Sneezing. So forgive me, that wasn't a sneeze break. I was just drinking my coffee at an inopportune time. Forgive me if I need to take some sneeze and or cough breaks i'm on one dose of allergy medicine but i don't dare bump it up to two doses i don't have to get crazy with the pills and the medicines and the potions so we're just gonna have to live with this you're just gonna have to live with episode 4222 in a collector's series let the fun begin i was in prison yesterday he's a prisoner of his own grievances and not just the of my own grievances kind i was in an actual prison i was an eastern oregon correctional institution in Pendleton, Oregon, and I'd like to tell you that there was not one point during, this was for a television reporting project, I'd like to say that there was no time during which security had to chase me, but there was a time that security had to chase me. I'll tell you what that was all about. And also, the TSA is officially letting us know when the worst time during the day, what the worst time of day is to travel in terms of TSA lines. That's some of the least shocking information I've ever received. That's a hell of a promo for the topic, isn't it? Oh, and it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day. The Blur's Day messages. And we'll talk to this guy, longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's here to risk it for the biscuit. Oh, wow. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I am I'm going to find it very difficult not to talk about Schindler's List today. Again? So maybe we should just do that here at the top of the show, maybe.

I also have a problem with bringing that movie up. Mm-hmm. Because there's a very, there's that incredibly iconic scene where Liam Neeson's is as, oh, sorry, I always do this. It's one of the Fiennes. Rafe Fiennes. It's Rafe, okay. Rafe Fiennes as Oscar Schindler is kind of feeling like he could have done more.

I'm sorry. Liam Neeson is Oscar Schindler. I thought you were asking which Fiennes it is.

We cannot get closer to Fiennes, no matter how hard we try.

I don't get that. It's an Indigo Girls song? Oh, that's why I don't get it. I'm not familiar with their catalog. Wow. Ally much? Well, I literally had not seen Schindler's List until last night for the first time.

Just quickly before you launch into your review of this brand new movie, there's a, well, you'll know this scene well. It's when Liam Neeson is going, you know, I could have done more, and I think he holds up his watch or something, and he says, you know, this could have saved one more life or something. And that really stuck with me. But the problem is, I, for some reason, am often...

compelled to make that reference but about things with much lower stakes oh yeah you know what i mean but it's such an iconic moment and it's it seems like it kind of it stands in for other things but like there's nothing else that is on the level of seriousness as the holocaust so anything i use it but oh like uh like in shinner's list when he's doing the thing with the watch it's like really yeah no it's not like all they told us was that they don't have any more booths available we're gonna have to sit at the bar right yeah this is not this is not a related thing this is not of the same magnitude anyway so people were saying the same thing about i think there was a

moment not all that long ago in our culture and i tend to like i i will when i hear something like this i tend to kind of i don't know fall in line is the wrong that sends the wrong message but i tend to fall in line somebody said like similarly like sophie's choice we're throwing sophie's choice around too much i think somebody said that to us oh did they i don't remember that maybe i said that to you because it came up and i feel like i saw that on social media a while back um and sophie's choice is that also related to the holocaust or is that just a different

tragic story i believe it might be might be holocaust related i've never seen sophie's choice it's somebody making a very very impossible and terrible decision about i'm presuming daughter kids or something yeah i think so yeah um so i don't know anything about sophie's choice

and um 24 hours ago i really didn't know anything about schindler's list i had never it was a sunny wednesday night and you thought it was a sunny wednesday night i have no idea what happened to me last night i'm also i'm on very little sleep as well i don't know i mean i'm fine it was just such a strange night for me i think part of it is still luke trying to find my groove in a post dart playing world like i i just you know we i we i assume that you were also yeah we were texting about it you were either watching or listening the mariners game i was listening mostly to the mariners game and watching a little bit while i um was cooking a chicken which i know is a weird thing to do on a sunny day but i needed a few more bones for my everything you're describing sounds like fall behavior i know yesterday was really weird making stock watching schindler's list no i'm making stock today i have this okay god damn it let's just do it i have this bag in the freezer that has a whole bunch of veggie trimmings in it and like a few like kind of chicken bones from like a rotisserie chicken that i bought a while back and it's taking up a lot of space in the freezer and also i find myself buying chicken stock at the store lately and i'm like why am i doing that i need to take this bag and i need to you know boil it and simmer it down into my own stock but there is not quite and you wouldn't let me play simmer down stew today oh yeah well now you can play it i didn't i was i was setting you up for it um so any yeah no this is how this i mean i do everything backwards it's so weird like i was at the store yesterday i'm like well maybe i'll get another rotisserie chicken and then i was like oh and actually then i could boil down the bones and then i can finally get that bag of like trimmings out of the freezer and have some homemade stock and i'm like well if i'm gonna do that why don't you just make a chicken it's not that much more work and um it'll be so much better so the next thing you know i'm coming home from the grocery store with a chicken to roast, and so I decide I'll do that, but mostly so that I can get this bag of trimmings out of my freezer so I can make my stock and then just be done with that for the summer. So that was the plan. We have a boner. Why there? You're talking about bones? Oh, bones. Okay, gotcha. I thought you were just like really into this stock talk. And tell them the bones sent you.

A lot of bone-related drops if you need them.

So anyway, that, yeah, it was a weird night for me. And so, like, I'm listening to the game. It was a very disappointing game. And maybe I'm feeling my feels. And I sit down on the couch to listen to a podcast and play my baseball video game. But I'm just not feeling it. And, like, this is the time of night where I would dial up the Rainier's game. And I'd play some darts. Then I'd listen to some records. And I would do this whole thing. But I was like, I can't play darts. My hands are still kind of messed up. And so I just sort of was at a loss. And in the podcast I'm listening to, somebody makes a very brief reference to Schindler's List. Now, here's the deal with me and Steven Spielberg. I am not a huge Spielberg fan.

They changed it at Ellis Island to make it more Jewish. That is true.

I learned that yesterday in the movie. So anyway, I'm not a big Spielberg fan because I think by the time I was watching a lot of Spielberg stuff, he was making more schlocky stuff. And I know he's like America's most celebrated director. And you cannot deny, you know, Jaws or, you know, you obviously cannot deny his impact on filmmaking and everything.

I'm not definitely watch the movie Duel. Oh, I want to go back. His first film he ever made, I believe, starring Dennis Weaver. And it is really good. Really, really good. Well, I mean, I guess it is a little schlocky, but in the best kind of 1970s way.

Yeah, I remember my friend who is kind of a big.

kind of movie nerd he wasn't just high he was a movie nerd that he really loved movies but he wasn't totally a snob where he um wouldn't watch like kind of everything um but i remember he was always angry about the director's commentary on duel because spielberg talks it's about these trucks that go over you know it's like about trucks right do they well it's about a guy driving

a dodge dart which is the kind of car we had as a kid so i felt very connected to the film dennis weaver is just like driving through the mountains of california in a dodge dart and he somehow ticks off somebody who's driving a huge like very grease covered smoky huge truck with like i i can't remember if it has a like a semi-trailer on the back or like literally like a big tank of you know oil or gas or something and the truck menaces him throughout the entire film and you never see the

guy in the truck and the truck at some point i believe goes over a cliff spoiler alert i haven't seen the movie but something happens with the truck and in the director's commentary steven spielberg says yeah i you know i actually mixed in um i wanted to i wanted to sound less like a truck and more like a dinosaur roaring so i put in some like dinosaur sounds or something and it always ticked ticked off my friend john because he's like how would you have any idea what a dinosaur sounds like dinosaurs probably had high-pitched noises do you think the guy who

made jurassic park doesn't know what dinosaurs sound like well that would come that would come

20 years later, actually, actually the same year, Luke, that Schindler's List came out. So anyway, I think I was more familiar with a lot of Steven Spielberg's later stuff. And I was just like, you know what? Like, I understand that Schindler's List was a movie that tackles obviously the most difficult content. Right. And I know that it's revered in a lot of ways. But I always figured that it's like kind of a quote unquote important movie, but not necessarily that grade of a movie to my tastes having you know somebody who was more into you know while everybody was watching jurassic park i was well no i mean i guess in college or whatever i'm watching like hell or whatever the adult film that they played at the lusty lady weird that you had an associate producer credit in that huh why were you the best boy i was promised producer credit for the record yeah um so anyway so i passed and then i heard somebody and mentioned that oh yeah like something about it being one of the best films ever made and i was like i mean is it and so i just i was like is it i did the thing that you were kind of bemoaning on the on the show earlier this week i just like held my phone up to my mouth and i hit the little microphone button i said schindler's list free streaming anywhere and uh it came back saying that it actually does come with your amazon prime subscription i was like we'll see about that and this i mean my evening would have been so much different if amazon prime was like oh but it's 2.99 because i just I wasn't that into it. It was just sort of a spur of the moment thing. And I had no, I knew it was sort of a long movie. I didn't realize how long it was. And I had no intention of watching the whole thing. I'm like, let me just see what, you know what? It's 2024. Let me just see what this whole Schindler's List thing is all about. And cut to, that must have been pretty late too, because cut to 2 a.m. I'm like, I'm like.

In the words of Michael Barbaro.

Wow. I'm watching the movie. I'm well into it. i'm like wow this must be wrapping up soon and then like i i hit the little i hit the remote control and i see that i'm literally two-thirds of the way through this movie maybe that was around one or one thirty but either way i was up very late watching this movie and then didn't sleep well afterwards you would be surprised to hear but i will say uh i'm glad that i was wrong it's incredibly well made it's i mean again i knew that it was going to be important and heavy and to be taken seriously but I didn't know I didn't realize that it really is a cinematic masterpiece in that that it is so uh here it is in the year of our lord 2024 almost exactly 30 years 31 years after its release I am now amongst the people who have seen both Schindler's List and Jurassic Park which I saw in the theater with Genevieve

about five years ago you know what tell the Seattle Times rave I might to Steven Spielberg's work in the movie Schindler's List rant to the nazis yes exactly so you were also listening to the baseball game last night because i was doing some yard work and listening to the game did you happen to catch the part where um aaron goldsmith and uh gary hill jr were talking about their conversation with cal raleigh not being excited enough about big dumper seat cushions no but i've been sort of following

i brought up the seat cushions to you on the show earlier this week i did not hear that i almost

I just texted you because it was one of those moments that you and I just as fans of radio as yeah as traditional talk radio tends to go away all you and I have left are the brief moments of extreme boredom during baseball games where our favorite announcers morph into a version of talk radio yes and they're so good at it and that's the thing also that I sort of like like about listening to the Rainier the Rainiers games I just think it's really good broadcasting you know I think they're when you have good broadcasters behind the mic it almost doesn't matter what the context is like you working

backward with your chicken project to get to some sort of outcome I'm now just listening to baseball games so I can get to the talk radio portion of me and luckily the Mariners have created long moments of boredom this season with some of their hitting futility so it was you know the Mariners have a catcher named Cal Raleigh and his nickname somehow is The Big Dumper. Although, do you know what his nickname in high school was? I believe it was Sunshine. Oh, really? Because he'd had blonde hair. He'd dyed his hair blonde. I know this because a while ago I was watching the pre-pre-pre-game show. You actually probably, you may have never seen this in your life. There are these shows that will start airing two, three hours before the game that are, I mean, the nutritional content of them is so low. It's just like the players, many of whom have already been designated for assignment or traded but they were on the team at the beginning of the season just doing these proust questionnaires or talking to um you know angie mentink about something or

talking to um uh what's her name she'll drive around in the car with them right um is that

still a thing that they do i'm i don't know if they're doing that one but like they were asking like what was your high school nickname and cal raleigh said it was sunshine or something because because he had dyed his hair blonde well now he's known as the big dumper and they're doing this giveaway on uh like sunday or something which is father's seat cushion oh maybe it's on father's seat cushion day and and i see a lot of interviews with this guy cal raleigh he's a fairly um he seems like he's a fairly kind of um well how would you put it he doesn't have a big personality he's got a big he's got a big dumper but not the personality to match exactly and so and so i could totally imagine this scene they were describing like they were probably just somewhere in the locker room they see him and they're like hey dude how cool is it that you have these seat cushions that's a big dumper on I mean that's amazing right and they the way they described it was we had a really hard time convincing Cal Raleigh that this is a big deal that he has these seat cushions and then they started talking about um I told him get you know you got to get a minimum of a dozen of these for your house yeah put them on every chair and then they start describing being at a fancy dinner at Cal Raleigh's house where they're having, I forget what the meal was. It was like beef wellington. And then Aaron Goldsmith does an impression of pulling the chair out, which has a big dumper. See, he's like, big dumper. And then Gary Hill is like, is that your big dumper impression? And he's like, is that your big dumper sound effect? He's like, yeah, but I tried to do it quietly because I didn't really commit to it. It was just great. It was a really good two minutes of radio that as I was pulling these very thorny weeds in my yard, I thought of you. I was like, I hope Andrew's listening to this. You weren't, but you just got the next best thing, which is me telling you about it.

I'm with you, though. And also, I love that Gary Hill is technically the executive director, or I'm sorry, the producer of the show. There's something about that dynamic, too. Like, those two together, I just love so much. And I even had somebody, I don't know if you ever listened to it. But I had somebody at 710 ESPN like in the past year, I think it was last season, kind of illegally send me some tape from their opening roundtable because Goldsmith had told this amazing story about meeting a baseball great. But the baseball great called him the wrong name the whole time. But he didn't. He was like he was literally in college. I mean, and he talked about literally, Luke, the recorder that he went into the conference room with or whatever, like some old piece of technology. It rang all of our bells. And Goldsmith just saying like, oh, I think the guy kept calling him Eric the whole time. And then years later, the guy found out that Aaron just didn't have the cojones to correct the baseball great. So he like, oh, he got something signed to Eric Goldsmith. That's right. And it hangs. And it was just such a wonderful thing. And so I wrote to somebody that I kind of know through Twitter at 7.10. I'm like, hey, could you possibly sneak that under the transom to me? But I have a question for you related to baseball personalities before we move on from Schindler's List.

Did Tommy Lasorda once kick the Montreal Expos mascot out of the game? Yes, that did happen. That was your question.

No, my question was, who do you think has a better? And this is a question that even if you're not into sports or the Seattle Mariners, I think everybody can enjoy this question and think about themselves. Who do you think has a better sense of humor? Me or you? Ty France or Mitch Hanegar? Because I think it's very clear.

Well, Ty France reworked his sense of humor during the offseason.

Famously, yeah. Boy, I have a strong opinion on this based simply on on-field observation.

Behaviors?

Yeah.

I guess I'm going to say Ty France.

I think Ty France has a better sense of humor. I like Mitch Hanegar.

as a player and as a person but I was watching something the other day and I was just like god I'll bet you that guy has no sense of humor he just seems so serious and so boring and then I was like well they're probably all like that like honestly even Cal who I think Cal you mentioned Cal Riley you mentioned that he doesn't have a personality in a certain way he does but it's just serious baseball man like he's the one who like stuck his neck out and was criticizing like the front office you know after um last season missing the playoffs I mean that is a type of personality like players don't often do that um so I think that he's kind of got a leadership personality but again probably not a great sense of humor as you would without a doubt without a

doubt the worst as far as personality types baseball players have the worst personalities of the three major sports and I can say this having done a lot of research on the matter of sneaking into games with a fake not a fake press pass but a press pass that didn't relate to any content getting on the radio for much of my early 20s once I realized that I could call the PR people for the Mariners and Seahawks and Sonics at the time and misrepresent myself as a radio reporter and get on the list. I started just like doing this all the time. Nobody had asked me to do a radio story, but I would get into these locker rooms and observe them. And this is the list of like personality types. Um, the, the most likable people are football players, hands down. Basketball is kind of just, you know, kind of neutral. They're kind of in the middle. and then a baseball player is the absolute worst. And I don't know what it is about the game of baseball. Maybe it's that it's like just so much harder than it looks to go up there and hit a round ball with a round bat. And, you know, it's that you just, I don't know if it draws a certain kind of person, but it's just like generally speaking, and that's why I saw this this morning, this Tommy Lasorda thing.

Well, can I just finish what I was saying before about Hanniger and Ty France? Yeah. There is this, now it's kind of lost, But in the moment I watched Ty France, you know, he plays first base for obviously everybody knows that in the in the listening audience. And I was just thinking, like, none of these guys on the field have a sense of humor. And then Ty France, I think we're playing the Astros. And who's the little pugnacious guy that we especially hate on the Astros? He's Altuve. Altuve. And he's like on first base and he's getting ready to like kind of he's, you know, he's kind of leading off, like making it look like he might steal or something. So whoever the pitcher is throws it to Ty to keep Altuve on first, right? And I noticed just Ty does this one little thing. And again, Ty to me looks like just a typical baseball card baseball player, right? Like just like kind of right down the middle, like in a bazooka Joey looking. He's always chomping on gum and has a strong jaw or whatever. And Altuve like kind of leads off. The pitcher throws back to first. And Ty just sort of, I mean, it's clear he doesn't need to tag him. But Ty just takes his glove with the ball in it and just boops Altuve. Just boops him. Just sort of like gently and then blows a bubble.

Mention, Altuve is a very short individual. He is. Both in life and as a Major League Baseball player. So there's an added dimension to this.

And he's just like, and this is when he's like splayed out, right? Like he's prostrate. You've got to be careful with that one. He's prostrate on the ground, you know, kind of like reaching for the bag. I need to get my prostrate checked. Yes. And Ty France does not need to do anything. He just needs to get the ball back to the pitcher. but he just takes this moment and it almost seems like this unthinking moment just to take his glove and go and just reach down and go boop and then toss the ball away and I was like I'll bet you I'll bet you Ty France and I would not get along I don't think we have the same type of humor I can't think of many people I think me and JP might be able to get along I can't think of many people in that organization that I get along with but I appreciated I just appreciated this moment from Ty France and now I've always got eyes on him I'm looking for more more little signs that he's got a sense of humor so keep your eyes peeled this is how you're

spending your time not playing darts is fanfic fanficking which Mariners would like you and which ones would not like that's right yeah um sorry to obsess over this sort of thing but i just saw it this morning and i do think it kind of plays into the larger conversation that nobody wanted us to have today about baseball players and their personalities so i don't know what your familiarity because you didn't really grow up really into baseball in the 80s and 90s but This guy, Tommy Lasorda, famously manager for the L.A. Dodgers, was like kind of the face of baseball.

And the face of Slim Fast, right? Yes. Right. So he got into baseball before or after Slim Fast.

He was just like this guy who was always held up as this like really jocular dude and just like Mr. Everybody Loves Tommy Lasorda. And like he was he just was this considered to be this jovial character. But the truth of the matter was he was a tremendous a-hole. like there's so much there's just so much footage of him chewing out reporters or just like you know just being he just wasn't a very he did not appear to be a very nice person or he didn't have very good control over his anger and i think that that's kind of

It's sort of indicative of the larger thing of baseball guys' personalities, which is there's a lot of people associated with baseball that are just not nice. Now, it doesn't help that I got screamed at in the Mariners' locker room, like, a couple of times. One time particularly bad by a Mariner reliever named Mike Jackson over nothing. I was waiting to talk to, I think, like, Alex Rodriguez or something. And this guy—oh, I also got yelled at by Chris Bozzio because I was inadvertently leaning against a couch. I think part of my leg was making contact with a couch in the locker room. Like, they lost the game.

It's like asserting their power and, yeah, like kind of.

Yeah, but it's real. They're real. They can be real puncher downers, and I just haven't had that experience. Like in a football locker room after they lose, I haven't had any of the Seahawks yell at me, or I didn't have any of the Seahawks yell at me, or even after the Super Bowl in Detroit, which I was legitimately covering for NPR. I was in the Seahawks locker room. Everyone's nice and respectful. And, again, basketball players are generally pretty cool, I thought. But this sort of thing was funny to me just because I hadn't seen this before. but in the I'm presuming the 1980s there was a game in Montreal this is when the expos were in Montreal and the first of all Montreal had a very good mascot at the time that I was unfamiliar with named Youpi who's just big weird character kind of not quite the Philly fanatic but something in that neighborhood of like non like we don't really know what this thing is but we're but we're gonna watch it uh you know juggle baseballs during the seventh yeah because what's an expo

right you can't like have a mascot representing an exposition that's a tough thing to do

so they had something called yuppie and yuppie was doing a bit where yuppie was pretending to sleep on top of the dodgers dugout and lasorda is so pissed about this i don't know if yuppie if they could hear yuppie on the dugout or something but yuppie had like a big nightgown on and a pillow and like a hat for sleeping came ready for this bit i see and lasorda is just so annoyed at this thing, and then he basically gets the umpire to kick Yuppie out of the game. This is not a bit, by the way. This is not like, you know, during the All-Star game, like, the San Diego chicken is going to be in real trouble. It's like, no, this was real. Basically, Tommy Lasorda was, my guess is the Dodgers were losing. Lasorda was pissed. And here's a little bit of the audio.

They want Yuppie off the Dodger dugout. He's bugging the Dodger players, and Tom Lasorda is out. And third base umpire Bob Davidson is throwing Yuppie out of the ballgame. He wants him off the Dodger dugout. Tommy Lasorda has put up a complaint. This will draw the

ire of the fans. And let me just tell you, Andrew, Yuppie is built for this moment because I don't know what Yuppie's gender is, but Yuppie is just like hang dogs, like hangs its head, doesn't want to leave. Like, I don't think you can get away with this in this day and age. I think you actually would kind of get in trouble as the mascot. like for making it about you but like yuppie is really milking this just like head down kind of bummed like a kid who's being told that they have to go to bed and they don't want to or whatever and so and they want buck rogers out to get yuppie out of there buck is sitting down here

comes davidson running over and buck's gonna make davidson come over and say what do you know they're calling somebody from security over call security and remove him from the ballpark wow We've seen it all now, huh? Yuppie's been thrown out of the game Off the Dodgers dugout

The great part is Yuppie throws the pillow Back onto the field, Andrew Whoa Well, Bob Davidson is really hearing it

This is a first

And you can see, and I'm going to use a swear here You can see Lasorda very clearly Mouthing the words, fucking bastard at yuppie

do you ever think an umpire has thrown a mascot out of the game well in this case this is that's

what the umpire umpire makes the umpire goes over to the like sideline or whatever and like does the like you're out of here but again not in a like harlem globetrotters yeah we're being funny way in a like get out of here dude you're delaying the game kind of way wow um but i just thought that was i didn't i don't know how you know i pride myself on knowing certain kind of weird little moments of baseball, particularly from the 80s and 90s when I was really obsessed with it as a kid, but I had never heard that story. But it sort of checks out that Tommy Lasorda was not nearly the kind of jovial, grandfatherly character that the Slim Fast ads made us think he was.

Yeah, that's my Tommy. That's my Uncle Tommy. That's the only one that I knew growing up.

Don't blame me. I voted for Tommy. Wait, that doesn't make sense.

We was hoping for some razzle-dazzle. Razzle-dazzle. That's right, man. razzle dazzle. On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody

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In fact, we kind of got you that job.

I mean, and if you wanted to kick back a little bit of that, you know, finder's fee or something. I'm just saying we wouldn't be mad. Oh, wait, you are. You're actually kicking back a lot of it right now. And probably were while your employment was up in the air. Marshall, I take it all back. Please, just keep doing what you're doing. Lastly, not to sharpshoot, but I believe Luke described something happening in the Hague as deeply Scandinavian. I just want to let you know that while the Netherlands similarly has tall blonde people biking everywhere and terrible weather, it's not part of scandinavia oh i don't think i knew that did you know so the so scandinavia does not include the netherlands it would be more like what what do we consider scandinavia don't ask me that i

let's get let's get marshall on the line yeah because i don't know i think i would have i mean i clearly went along with you on that and i think that i probably would have said the same thing i'm very confused about what makes up scandinavia okay so i think sweden has to be sweden It seems like that's the heart of it all.

You know what? I can actually, I think, I'm going to go with Marshall on this one. Okay. Marshall, I'll allow it. I think Marshall is absolutely right because really what I think the Netherlands is, it's not German, but I feel like it's more, it's closer to that. Maybe it's just the language, it seems like, or I don't know. I'm probably just getting myself in further.

So it says Norway, Sweden, and Denmark. That's generally speaking. The term Norden refers to Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. So it might be a little bit slippery, but certainly Norway, Sweden, and Denmark, you can't go wrong. And the Netherlands, let's see.

Yeah, the Netherlands, it borders Belgium and Germany. And I feel like it's more sort of culturally like that. The language, maybe the cuisine. It's it's it's maybe more like the sort of the way that Canada and the u.s. Have a certain alignment You know and maybe that's more what's going on there, but anyway, okay, Marshall, you know what it's the it's the shoreline

To Germany's Edmonds is that what you're saying? I saw the short crest Scott's

Marching in the starlight parade in Portland last weekend, and I felt genuinely excited Which is funny because Portland and Seattle are not that far apart, but I felt legitimate like I was telling Becca's like hey this is the short crest scots that was like a cool high school to go cool high school to go to when i was when i was in school i really would have loved to go to short crest they had a good basketball team they had cute ladies and they were very good in the starlight parade the short crest scots marching band they were like for my money they were the best band in the whole thing and i was very proud of them it was weird it was like i was like i'm proud to be from the same city

that this marching band is from right now i'm not i don't think you've ever mentioned that before i I was totally unfamiliar with the Shorecrest Scots. Is that a North Seattle? That must be North Seattle.

Yeah, it's near that dump that you illegally use. It's near where you do your illegal dumping.

I have a sticker. I am the small dumper, and I have a sticker that says I'm allowed to do it.

Your new nickname is small dumper, small dumper. Marshall, thank you so much. Maestro?

Oh, I was... looking up Norway. Hold on. On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dattle.

It's Gregory Brown, pronounced G-Money in Pomona, California, home of the... Is it the Ice House? I think the Ice House is out there. A very cool, kind of smallish music venue that has had some legendary performers because people will often... Bands will often warm up. at the Ice House in Pomona before they come into L.A. and play their big...

Oh, interesting.

...Staple Center show or whatever it is. So there have been, over the years, some pretty incredible shows out there. Also, Walt B. Walt B. lived in Pomona, California as a kid.

What was his... Where did he grow up? He had some very scary-sounding high school, though, Walt B., right? Oh, yeah.

Hellgate in Missoula, Montana.

Hellgate, right, yeah.

My dad's dad, Farnham Burbank, was an engineer with the Forest Service. And so they lived in Southern California for most of my dad's life and in Pomona for a while and then also in Woodland Hills. And then my granddad, Farnham, got transferred up to Montana with the Forest Service. And so my dad had like something out of a Kevin Bacon movie where he goes from being, let's be honest, probably a moderately popular, moderate, moderate to mid popular kid at a big L.A. high school, L.A. area high school to the kid from Los Angeles who just moved to Missoula, Montana.

Oh, so this helped him. He wasn't a selfish. Yes, it's a major upgrade.

Imagine you're one of the gals in Missoula, Montana, and there's a new kid at the school who's a junior who's from Los Angeles.

Oh, and he's wearing sunglasses and his hat is on.

He's wearing sunglasses. He's got his collar popped. He's driving a convertible.

He's Andrew McCarthy. Does he have his sweater tied around his waist?

He's doing an anteater dance. He's Patrick Dempsey. I'm just really leaning into the trope here. Oh, okay. he's used his telescope money to buy a new coat for a gal who's popular who's now going to make him popular but then he becomes more popular than her and loses himself completely yeah he saw um

she spilled wine on the jacket right yeah she's at the mall trying to return it to like a wilson suede and leather type of deal i have the weirdest memory of that movie i as you know i lived a pretty sheltered life like on movie nights like my family would like rent a vhs and we'd all like eat pizza and watch movies but don't get it twisted this was bob walsh's world so they would pull out two card tables for me and my sister to set up in the middle of the living room and they would pull up chairs and we would that actually sounds kind of fun it was fun it was like movie night and i remember watching things like i don't know like i think may probably not gremlins but like star trek stuff or whatever but we didn't watch like 80s teen movies you know like that just wasn't the stuff that i was really exposed to but i remember visiting i want to say it was my chacha verna in in um west virginia yeah in the old country in in wheeling west virginia and for some reason like usually when we went down there to visit that extended family like it was all like we're all sitting around as a big extended family but my parents must have left me at chacha verna's house for a while it might have been chacha donna i'm sorry if i'm messing this up for the listeners i'm sure a million people are writing in right now that was verna not donna um but either way i just remember i was why do i imagine them looking like patty and selma just the names are a little bit yeah very kind very very kind people rest in peace and permissive it sounds like yeah well i think that i i think they might have had cable which was amazing i did not grow up with cable but they certainly allowed me to go into like their little sitting room or whatever literally probably plastic covered floral print couch and I just was at my own devices and I turned on the television and I didn't know what I was watching I don't even think I knew the name of it until probably years later but it was that movie can't it can't buy me love is what we're describing here right and that's like that might be the only time I've seen that movie but it sticks out I remembered very well because I felt like I was you know I was like kind of on the cutting edge of pop culture by having seen that also those movies when you're a kid and maybe

you're not the most popular or even if you sort of are this idea of like yeah you can your social status can change rapidly yeah it's just so appealing I mean I was obsessed with that movie I wasn't I was not super popular but I also wasn't you know getting particularly bullied but but I very much like was like identified with the Patrick Dempsey character of you know being kind of a loser, but then all of a sudden, you know, everybody's doing the, um, ant eater dance or whatever it was that he, that he teaches everyone. So basically that was my dad's exact life. I don't know what Gregory Brown's life has looked like, Andrew.

But I do know that he's a dazzling donor who says sorry if this message is too late for your planning purposes. It is Greg. I'm sorry I'll just get the top story. Yeah, that's probably good I've been so busy living the glamorous life of a dazzling donor I hardly have time to sit down and dictate a message to my social secretary Carol hold my calls I'll try to keep this short so I can get back to writing off my yachts and jet on my taxes weird that he has a social secretary but does his own taxes.

Yeah, but some people like to have control.

I mean, honestly, how did Gregory become a billionaire in sweating the details? Exactly. I like the idea of...

And probably cooking the books. Those are not mutually exclusive.

No, sometimes, in fact, they're very much related. In many ways, we Dazzlers are just like any other ten. We have our favorite drops and jokes. However, we are able to offshore our trash anxiety. For my message, I would like to recommend other Dazzlers get a financial planner. If you have the means to dazzle, you really want to leverage. Boy, this is way more financial than I expected it to be. Yeah, okay. If you have the means to dazzle, you really want to leverage your capital financially. Oh, shoot. I just spilled my Veuve Clicquot. I need to go so my staff can take care of that. I wonder if Gregory must work in the financial planning industry, don't you think?

That's the picture I was starting to get there, yeah.

Yeah. It's a good point, though. I mean, Greg, I think Greg is just looking out for everyone. And it's, you know, good to think about if you have been, you know, blessed enough. Let's use a word from the church to to have, you know, have some resources available to you. Make sure they're working for you.

Obviously, I know what Vuv Clicquot is, but, you know, for the listeners who don't, Luke, would you like to explain that?

It's that champagne that comes in the orange with the orange label, which is it's very funny, actually, because that color of label has now been ripped off by lots of other champagne companies. I don't know if you can really trademark. You probably could kind of trademark a color, and probably the other ones are one shade off. But Veuve Clicquot is a very expensive champagne, and it has a very iconic kind of orange label. and um and i went to this event god this is like two years ago now with becca and uh her brother and his wife it was a opening this does sound like something gregory would be doing in pomona california it was the opening of a porsche dealership in downtown portland portland is

dying by the way andrew it's a war that's what i hear it's unsafe and they're opening porsche

dealerships the reason we went was because scott was djing this so it was like a fancy thing for fancy people which we're not but uh we were allowed in because he was going to be DJing he's a really good DJ it's really really fun to go to things because he's he and I are I'm a little older than him but we have basically the same musical taste so it's kind of like it's like I'm DJing the party of all the songs with all the songs I love except I'm not having to do it and at the end of the night there were there was lots of wine there and lots of bottles of wine and things and at the end of the night um the word was spread that like you could take some wine if you wanted it like grab a bottle of wine sure oh and by the way um the band foreigner played a full-on concert foreigner of hot-blooded check it and check it and see i got a fever of 103 yeah honestly if you're if you're an adult go see a doctor because 103 is very high for an adult

yeah you're you're not just um you're not just attracted to somebody at that point you are having some serious medical issues no really honestly called 9-1-1 zoom get like zoom care

or whatever just see somebody but no that's how fancy this was they hired the band foreigner to play for i don't know a few hundred people also it's crazy how many hits foreigner had yeah i was

gonna say i was wondering which one you're gonna pick there i can't name any off the top of my head how many i'm looking it up how many do you know off the top of your head having seen them recently I want to know what love is. Yeah, right? Cold as ice. Yeah, they just kept Jukebox Hero. Hot-blooded. I've been waiting for a girl like you.

That one feels like the first time.

Oh, my God. So many, yeah.

Like, they just kept playing songs. I was like, are these covers? Are these all foreigner songs? And it's like, yes. they have like more hit songs from the 80s than just about anybody but this is why we open the

borders by the way foreigner ah brings all these songs into our culture and you want to keep them

out for a minute i was like oh are they from canada and then i picked up i picked up what you were putting down so at the end of the night they're like grab some wine if you want well i beeline it for like this centerpiece thing that's got all these bottles of veuve clico in it and i I don't know how I even do that. I somehow get out of there with four full bottles of Vouv and I'm like so proud of myself and i will i don't know if it was that night or it was the next day it was a little blurry andrew um i i mentioned this to scott and tiff and i think it's scott goes oh that was the only thing they asked people not to take and i still have two bottles in my refrigerator right now andrew two bottles of voodoo do you have um i gave the other ones away by the way do you worry

about like keeping that in the proper temperature or whatever because i believe we have one bottle of that too that we've had for a while as a special gift um and i worry that we probably

didn't take care of it properly it's you know what it's it's they've just been in the back of my refrigerator and then i got a new refrigerator and i just put them in the back of the new refrigerator yeah yeah i don't know if that's what you're supposed to do but that's what's

happening with them maybe and i will pop that open tonight when we celebrate a victory over For the A's by the Seattle Mariners.

Absolutely. The A's are running up another 17-year-old with absolutely no track record who will probably perfect game us through eight innings or something. Anyway, Gregory, thank you so much for landing your helicopter on your yacht and then walking into the stateroom and then typing up this email for your Dazzling Donor message. And thank you for being a Dazzling Donor. We absolutely could not do this without you. Hello and welcome to Top Story. Interesting day yesterday for me, Andrew. I went to a state prison in Oregon as part of the story that I'm doing about prison labor. And so last week I went to a place called Coffee Creek Correctional, which is primarily a women's prison where they make some of these products that are sold out, you know, sort of on the open market. And and then we went to this place in Pendleton in this particular facility where they make tons and tons of things that are kind of Denim related they make jeans they make jean jackets they make um Aprons for barbecuing they make just about anything you can think of that involves denim they make it there It's called prison blues and it was it was like in a way andrew was like out of a movie because you go into the prison and And, like, well, actually, really, the part that was the most cinematic was the yard. It was a nice day in Pendleton. And outside the prison, there's the, like, you know, the yard. It's, like, got a track around it. It's got all these weight machines. It's got a baseball field. Guys are, like, throwing a baseball. Guys are running around the track. Guys are lifting weights. Like, it was. Do you get me?

Dirty ear, Bill. Dirty ears, Bill.

Is that?

It's from Arrested Development. is that white power bill white power bill so does um is it george senior is trying to make friends in the yard i mean when i think of prison i think of arrested development i'm sorry that's my that's my jumping off point and i believe i oh no you know what it is it's job sorry this is i'm glad i interrupted you for this job ends up like breaking into prison if you'll recall so that he can then prove that he can break out because it's not a trick Luke it's an illusion and during his time in prison it doesn't go exactly as he had planned and he does a magic trick he's trying to warm up to White Power Bill and make friends I believe but he makes it look like he pulls a coin out of White Power Bill's ear I believe and he says something like oh I guess you have dirty ears or something and then everybody's like dirty ears Bill and he accidentally takes down White Power Bill by uh kind of redefining him as dirty ears bill and really making some enemies along the way

well the yard at this place looked exactly like what you think a prison yard looks like and see the thing was when i went to the other facility last week which is also an oregon state you know prison what i was really struck by was the difference in the buildings and i have decided i would like to not personally be in prison but i would much rather be at eastern oregon correctional institution, the one in Pendleton, than the one in Wilsonville, Oregon, Coffee Creek, and it's because of the building. So the building in Pendleton used to be a sanitarium, or it was, you know, it was an asylum. It was like the Eastern Oregon Asylum or something. And so it wasn't built originally as a prison. They converted it into a prison. So it has windows. Now, do the windows have bars on them? Yes, but it has windows. It's like it had a different purpose before, and therefore, when you're in it, there's light in fact i talked to a guy was this a mcminimum's prison it was sort of like they're

real they're repurposing buildings you know it's it's got it's got a brewery in the basement

i had a sour beer yeah um it was just the experience of being in this place where there

was actually natural light and I my assumption is it isn't any less secure than the other place there were just natural light versus the other one that I went to Coffee Creek which is built as a prison like that's what it was built for therefore it is like it's like a lunar base it's like it's beige it's squat it's windowless you have to go through all this security just to get to the front like guard and they have to buzz you through all this razor wire stuff and these gates and then it's like you can you see zero daylight when you're inside the facility like it's very very claustrophobic and for me very depressing to not see any kind of natural light I don't know why it is that they think like if you're going to build a prison from scratch the number one thing you got to do is make sure there's no daylight like why is that a bad thing I mean just make the windows thick enough that nobody can punch through them right but well right but I mean is that part of

the thing though aren't they kind of um well maybe I don't know what I'm talking about here But it does seem like there's a sort of a cruelty built into modern prison buildings now.

Well, the people who build them wouldn't tell you that that's the purpose, but maybe it is like, you know, subtly they would say it's about security. They love to talk about security, you know, and they call these things like supermax. I mean, none of neither of the prisons I'm talking about are supermax facilities. But I mean, I guess there is probably a punitive element to it. But I can just tell you that it was a very, very different vibe of being at a place that was not built initially to be a prison. Versus a place that was being built that the whole idea was make this a prison and it was very stark The difference in these two buildings and it makes me think maybe we could rethink that like Somebody has to be incarcerated. Okay. They've done something they've been they've been found guilty of some offense They have to be incarcerated But do they have to be I mean does it have to be extra soul-crushing while it's happening just in terms of even getting a little bit of Access to natural light But the thing was When we were all done filming We went back through the gates. That's also a very odd experience to be talking to people In this in this facility where they because where they make the the denim and stuff like that Because it does that part does not feel like you're in a jail or in a prison rather Like there was we were in an office where the people that are kind of in charge of the production that they're they're civilians They're not incarcerated people where they work, and they just have like it's like an office like a computer But half people working in there are you know in like the outfit of the people who are inmates They're not allowed to have access to the internet, but they do have access to computers. They're just walking around There's a coffee machine like it feels exactly like an office, so you can kind of forget That you're in a jail or in a prison And then you're talking all these people and then you realize oh I'm walking out of here and some of these guys are never leaving here Or they're not leaving here for ten years And also, yeah, it was kind of a bit of an odd experience in that way, but anyway, as we're leaving, they let us out through the gates, they open everything, and I get in my car. Now, we had parked in the far back of the prison complex, because we had all this camera equipment and gear that we had to wheel through. And so I get in my car and I start driving what I think is the way to get out of the prison. It's kind of confusing. There's these two like little roads and I'm driving along right up against the fence of the yard, Andrew. And again, it's by this time, it's maybe two in the afternoon. Everybody is out on the yard.

Can I ask you a question? Is this, are you driving a stair car?

I'm in an Aztec tomb. so i i'm driving and it's weird because like everyone in the yard is staring at me i'm talking about like probably 500 dudes many of them shirtless many of them stopping their weightlifting project to look at me i'm talking everybody is staring at me and i'm thinking like i know that like you're in there and i'm out here and probably like you wish you were out here and probably like you just got to look at something but it felt weird to me the amount of attention they were paying to me and my Mazda CX-5 as I'm driving and I was driving I also was like well I am very close to the fence right now and I look in my rear view mirror and there is a car that is driving very fast up into the rear view up to behind my car and I'm trying to figure out what's going on and I keep driving I'm like easy fella we're all going to the same place we're all trying to get out of here and the car is like right behind me it's right on my bumper and I look in and I realize it's a security it's a you know corrections officer or whatever their technical name is and he is big mad and I look and I I realize I so I I pull over and he pulls up next to me and he's like, you're not allowed to be on this road.

I was on the road that the correction officers drive on to patrol the perimeter of the prison facility.

You're talking about everybody staring at you. There is a possibility that somebody was literally staring at you through a scope. Do you think that's a possibility? There's probably somebody was looking at you through the scope of a rifle.

I had inadvertently driven onto the small road that is only for the actual corrections officers to be doing their perimeter patrols. And the guy was chasing me. And that is why that's why Dirty Ears Bill and his crew were looking at me because they should see like some some nitwit TV reporter who's just driving along in his car, being chased by the security from the prison because he's in a he's on a place he is not supposed to be.

I mean, I'll jump to your defense right now without having seen it. And I will say it should be better marked. I mean, I just think if there is a road that is going to freak people out that much. i've been outside i'm trying to think like i've been outside of like when i lived in new hampshire where is the um oh my gosh i'm so losing my new england cred as if i ever had anybody as if i ever had any but um there's like a nuclear power plant up there right and like when you start to even get close to the nuclear power plant there is no question about where you are not allowed to drive like they make it very clear where you are not allowed yeah seabrook thank you and so google that by the way i don't want you to feel like i know no actually that's i would have never come up with that but absolutely seabrook so anyway i'm just saying i've been in places in cars where it's pretty clear that like oh do not go here it was not well marked at all in my defense um but

then it was also it was a real grandma can you pick me up from the rap battle sure because then had to drive back past all of the dudes all the young dudes um who who were just watch because i got almost all the way around the the prison i got i got pretty far on this road i wasn't supposed to be on and when the guy finally caught me and then i had to like do like a 30 point turn and get turned around and then just drive back past everyone kind of with like if a car could have a a tail between its legs that was gotta be just like okay yeah that was embarrassing you all saw

it well can we and uh can we talk about the moment in between here that you're sort of sort of yada yada yadaing over i'm just throwing some seinfeld in here too in case people aren't getting all of the um arrest development references um no soup for you so this car comes up to you like you see it kind of uh tearing ass as i think you would say now is it would you say that that is your phrase that i am now adopting tearing ass hauling ass i don't know i feel like you say i know like tearing ass is more of a that's more of a personal again call 9-1-1 if you are doing it you and your trusted clergy member anyway so you you see this car that that is um approaching very quickly and then i assume there's some flashing light or something you and you realize quickly that you need to pull over you pull over this person gets out this officer gets out of their car and comes to your window or just leans out and gives you a signal to turn around he just

rolls down his window like the passenger side window of his car and i've rolled down mine he just tells me between the cars you can't be on this road this is pulls up next gotcha yeah exactly so that was how i that was how the word the word got to me that and then he follows you out slowly yeah i mean i will say this he seemed a little annoyed but also i don't think he thought i was a real security risk i think he was just annoyed that he had to like come tell me to not be on there yeah right but it's it's the whole security thing of these places is also kind of it's interesting because the first place that we went when we went to coffee creek it was in tense you had to place your phone your wallet your keys if you had like an an apple watch you had to put it all in a locker and then you got you know they gave you this little coin thingy you got the Locker key like you were going For a swim at the Y or something And like they Took it all away nobody even Asked us at the other prison I had my phone The whole time like You know what I mean it's like when you go through TSA And some place it's like they Want you to you know do one sort of Thing and then you get used to it and you go to another location And they're like it's a totally different set of rules I was like And you know me I generally don't Everybody that we dealt with on the professional Side of this stuff everyone we've dealt with so far have been i thought they've been very professional towards us and they've been very nice towards us and they seem like they've treated the adults in custody with a lot of respect now we're also seeing the absolute best case scenario here right we're seeing the thing that the oregon department of corrections wants us to see yeah you know so i i'm very aware of that as well um so everyone has been pretty cool to us but you know me i just generally don't do great when i feel like there are rules that are being applied. applied kind of inconsistently or like what was my phone going to do at coffee creek that it that it wasn't going to do at this other place you know like it just it it feels like somebody makes a rule somebody agrees with the rule it becomes the rule but it's not necessarily based in any kind of particular good science or particular real risk necessarily because if it was they probably would have confiscated at the other place you know it's just kind of i guess I would say slightly arbitrary is kind of how that kind of stuff feels.

I mean, as long as you put your phone on airplane mode when you're in the prison, you should be fine.

I heard the flight attendant say the other day when we landed something like, if your phone is near you, you can now retrieve it. And I thought, lady, that train left the station a long time ago. Like, I don't even mean about, like, is having your phone in airplane mode or not? Does it matter as far as the safety of the plane? I'm not even talking about that. what I'm talking about is no one's putting their phone away anymore. We're on our phone. First of all, on Alaska Airlines, it's how you, you can watch all this content for free on your phone on Alaska Airlines, which is actually a pretty slick system. You don't have to even buy the Wi-Fi. You just, it's somehow, I don't understand how it works, but somehow you can watch millions of movies and TV shows for free on your phone. So no one put their, I just wanted to say you can scratch that from the boilerplate language. No one put their phone away. We've all had our

phones out this entire time let's just put it out here when is the last time you actually put

your phone on airplane mode on an airplane the 70s yeah right yes like i mean well i listen

it was a rotary phone you had to put your finger in the little pound symbol and pull it all the

way around i have been a thought leader in this space andrew for years you know back when it was dangerous to the planes i wasn't putting my phone in airplane mode airplane mode exists now on your phone only to try to reset it if it's being weird in the non-airplane world i didn't know you knew

that i was gonna say there is a purpose for it just to sort of just like reboot your wife like

why it's being okay i don't know airplane mode out of airplane mode but you're standing on terra firma my friend like it is the occurrence of people under the age of 70 putting their phone in airplane mode is, I have to say, probably pretty low at this point. I mean, I would guess, you know me. And also people over the age of 70. I don't want to make this an age thing. I've flown next to two super agers recently, both of whom left their phones on the entire time.

I put mine, just to be safe, I put mine on airplane mode before I even get to the airport, like as I'm pulling. I could see that for you. I was going to say, I am a rule follower, and I haven't followed that rule since, I think i don't know 2002 like it just it i don't think and you you just implied something that you have information that the airplanes have actually changed in some way you said even when it did affect the planes you didn't do that do you have some information about like now it really like they still ask us to do that right it's still a rule i have half a memory of reading something

that said it doesn't really matter or something that's where i'm getting that from but i i can't cite you the actual article maybe it does matter maybe it is dangerous but i would say that with the proliferation of wi-fi on airplanes and like i said on alaska you don't even have to pay for it it's just um i i wonder if at some point they'll change that feature on your phones if it will no

longer be called airplane mode oh that's interesting or if it has nothing we get to an era where it has nothing to do with airplanes anymore but it's still a mode of turning off your wi-fi or yeah is it just sort of like become the way we you know this came up on the show i think somewhat recently i mean the reason we call podcasts are because of the ipod and they'll be podcasts probably forever they'll be called podcasts i know some people call it like audio on demand or whatever but we all know they're podcasts and that name comes from a piece of

technology that doesn't even exist anymore what happens if you don't use airplane mode according to the internet not only will the signals cause interference with airplane navigation but the effort it takes your cell phone to keep scanning and tower hopping at fly-by speeds will also drain your battery that's true still not maintain a constant signal that's as of september of 2023

so yeah that is something that i have learned i forgot sometimes i do turn it off only because

it is a battery draining situation which would also explain well i don't know i was on the wi-fi on the plane so i'm guessing that that kind of solidifies what the phone is doing but i was when i was flying back from new york the other day and my phone kept almost dying and then i'd have to charge it and stare into the middle distance because the port for the headphones and the charging is the same thing. I was wondering, maybe that was extra bad because I was on an airplane, but actually I was on the Wi-Fi. So probably once your phone is on the airplane Wi-Fi, presumably it stops searching for cell phone connections, but who knows? In the wrong way to rock, in the wrong way to roll, you can just listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one, you can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun, you can be not the number one.

I got an email here in my personal email box From our friend Anna Anna the performer, not Anna the scientist We have a lot of Annas who are personal friends And listeners to this show And the subject line is just

Well, I mean, she could be a performing scientist

She could be, but as far as I know, she is not And I just see that the subject line is A gift for you and it contains an mp3 and i want so badly just to play it on the show without vetting it but frankly i don't know if it's appropriate i don't even why don't we save it for tomorrow it might not well yeah i mean i definitely need to review it again it didn't come into my tbtl account so i don't even know if it's necessarily for tbtl but i have a feeling it is it's spicy instead would you like to do a blurs day or two or seven or eight or nine okay um i want to mention And the way to get us Blur's Day is there's only one way to do it, honestly. Email me, andrew at tbtl.net, and put Blur's Day in the subject line. I was going through the voicemail line last week, and I realized that some people had submitted Blur's Days via voice weeks and weeks and weeks ago, and they kind of got lost in the shuffle. So just so you know, the only way to get us a Blur's Day is via email, andrew at tbtl.net. That is what Harley in Stanwood did. Harley says, I'd like to wish my five, Claire, a happy 18th Blur's Day tomorrow. You are thoughtful and funny, and we're so proud of the person you've become. Your mom and I are super excited to see you graduate as a... This is why we pre-read these things. I know this word. I know this word. Salutatorian?

Yeah, salutatorian, that's a very, very high academic honor. You're a valedictorian and salutatorian.

But I'm missing, I don't think I'm salutatorian. I feel like I'm missing a...

Salutatorian.

Salutatorian. Salutatorian. I could tell that I was not. I never knew that. Salutatorian. Okay, so here we go. Your mom and I are super excited to see you graduate as a salutatorian next week, and we'll miss you so much when you go away to Columbia College in Chicago this fall. Whoa. Remember to keep that riz. That's where Pip goes. Oh, really? Yeah.

Or was at one point. It's also where we do the Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is in the building connected to Columbia College of New York. Next time I'm there, if I'm doing the show, reach out. Who's the name of this graduate? This is Claire turning 18 tomorrow. Claire, once you're in Chicago next fall, HMU, hit me up and I'll put you and a friend on the list and you can really show them what boomer humor looks like.

I was going to say, you and your other 18-year-old friends. They'll be like, what on earth is? Wait, wait, don't tell me. Why are people laughing? It's so confusing. Harley says, remember to keep that riz at the second city because you the Sigma. I said, oh, skibbity, skibbity. Marissa in Maryland is turning 40. I'm so happy I'm finally becoming a middle-aged mom type in the last year. I've left a job I hated and started one. and I'm happy to go to every morning. Hell yeah. I also finished my master's degree in data science, and my family of me, my 11, and two fives expanded when we adopted our cats Cookie and Bunny. I finished my 30s strong, and I hope to go into 40 with the same energy. Congratulations. Wow.

Indeed. That's a lot of big changes in life. It sounds like big changes for the better.

It's a good year. I always do this. I'm going to get in trouble. Melissa in Maryland used to host a morning radio show. Is that the right, Melissa? Marissa or Melissa? I'm sorry, Marissa in Maryland. Didn't I feel, maybe I'm wrong. We had a couple of callers call into the show during a thon, and one of them was a morning show host, and it's embarrassing that I...

I think that morning show host was in Michigan, though.

Yeah, you're right. Anyway, Marissa, you'd make a great morning radio show host. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Glad I brought it up. no downside for me just freelancing that insult everybody summer says i'd like to wish myself a happy blurs day and thank luke once again for testing the waters of 48 for me it helps me ease into the annual aging process happy blurs day summer

I get to meet Summer via a video connection a few weeks ago. Summer, of course, has been listening to the show for a long time, and you got to know Summer through your times at the Bryan Park Project. Summer also says, I'd like to wish a happy Blursday to Riley, the daughter of Hollywood power broker Wynne Rosenfeld. Oh. Look at this. I'm moving to the L.A. area this fall. I didn't know that, Summer. Congrats. And I'm looking forward to hanging with the full fam at some point. And last but not least, happy Blur's Day to fellow 10 Cheryl from Corvallis. Hey. Oh. Congratulations, Alan. Wow. Having a birthday. I feel like someday I'd like to do a podcast from Cheryl's driveway. We've only ever talked on Slack, but I feel pretty confident classifying her as the coolest Gemini twin powers. Activate. it's funny because um summer works in astronomy and so when she was on the week in review podcast i asked her a lot of questions about astrology um and it turns out uh she's a gemini and you work in pastronomy right i work in astronomy we still have a lot to go here folks happy blursday to morgane i'm turning 40 no and i'm having a bit of an existential crisis about it Oh, don't. It's 40. Oh, you're a kid, Morgaine.

God, to be 40 again, Andrew. I actually did. I thought that the other day. I was talking to someone. They said, well, I'm 40 now. And I thought, God, to be 40, man.

Anyway, let's see here. So Morgaine says, it'll also be my TBTL Golden Blur's Day, which I think means my birthday is actually on Thursday. It is. Happy Golden Blur's Day. Thank you for everything you do. Power out, says Morgaine. You're going to love 40, Morgan. Start calling everybody kids. It's so freeing. Billy in Bend says, Happy birthday to my TBTL friendo Annie. While it might be more difficult for us to see each other now, I'll never forget your birthday, even if I forgot to send in a Blur's Day message. Go Mariners and go eat a bagel.

Happy Blur's Day, Annie.

Happy Blur's Day, Annie. I'm sorry, I paused there because I was thinking about salami.

I do think pastronomy is a pretty good joke.

Yeah, pastronomy is pretty good. And also the reason I'm thinking about salami here specifically is because Billy says, go Mariners and go eat a bagel, which was kind of the catchphrase of blazing bagels here. Blazin'. I think I hit the G too hard on that, Jaren. Blazin' bagels. And they have a promotion going right now. Not that I'm trying to give anybody free promotion. But because of the famous Grand Salami, you know, call, they're having some sort of salami bagel sandwich that they're advertising.

And, you know, I mean, all due respect, all due respect tone, that doesn't work out for me.

Oh, really? That sounds great to me.

But see, it's like when, because when Dave Niehaus, Rest in Power.

Oh, you mean the connection to Niehaus, the salami.

Well, he was get out the rye bread. He would literally say, get out the rye bread and the mustard, Grandma. It's grand salami time. It was a very prescriptive, if I'm using that word correctly, I often don't. It was a very clear roadmap to making the grand salami. Get out the rye bread and the mustard, Grandma Ma. So anything that's not that, to me, is, it's a shunda.

It's supposed to be a mitzvah. What is that drop? I get that. Is that key and peel? It is key and peel. And I just messed that up so bad. I'm so embarrassed right now. What if I'm wrong about the Grand Salami sandwich? What if it's not on a bagel? What if it is? It is on rye. It is the Grand Salami Kosher Salami Yellow Mustard Pickles Provolone on rye bread. My apologies. Well, no, but wait. But it is made by Blazin' Bagels? Yeah, not all of their sandwiches come on bagels. Although, I will say. But is it the water? It's not the water. I can't do the show. It's not the water, Luke. It's not the water.

God, this is the most. The guy finally wakes up 72 minutes into the show. All I had to do was explain these bagels' majesty as being related to the water.

However, all I'm saying is a salami sandwich made with the right ingredients on a bagel does sound good to me. Like, maybe, like, I don't know if it would be an everything bagel or what I would do. I mean, yes, it does.

I'm not going to lie to you. So that sounds, I'm a fan of a bagel sandwich, of things that normally are on a regular bread sandwich put on a bagel. I'm not mad at that at all. I just thought if they were going to put it on a bagel, I was going to say that's, you know.

No, I misrepresented them, and I feel kind of bad about it. Did you come pick me up?

I'm currently being pursued by Oregon corrections officers. Andrew, I'm not able to come pick you up.

This is the most unhinged Blur's Day segment we've ever done. We're powering through, though. Sydney says, happy Blur's Day to Micah, my amazing husband, 11, co-parent to our kitties, and overall incredible gam-gam of a human. I thought it said gem, but I believe it says gam-gam of a human. Micah, you are such a light in my life. You are the Carl to my havoc. The doggie door to my Nixon pig. The Itza to my Chunky. Wishing you the best 37th birthday ever. You had all summer. Gout Kitty, and I love you so, so much. All summer to work on this.

That's my laptop. This is my, by the way, Andrew, my role on the text chain now, the sports text chain, is at least the other day it was somebody would start a conversation about a particular I think you should leave sketch and then I would just type in some of the actual dialogue like that was my whole contribution somebody would just do like a driving crooner reference and I would say I gotta make money off it's simply too good and then somebody put something else in and then I just it's a pretty low level of contribution for me but I'm

here for it the original tweet that was shared though was pretty great especially brilliant. I don't know if we can recreate it here. I don't think we can. Okay, we're about halfway through. Good. Just joking. Happy birthday to Annie in Seattle from Megan also in Seattle. May your day be filled with tennis and podcarts. You are one tenacious ten who loves tennis. That is a good Blur's Day. Yeah, it is. I wonder if it's the same Annie. Probably. Happy Blur's Day, Annie. Annie, are you okay? Annie, are you okay? Annie, are you?

Okay.

Are you? Okay. Annie? Let's see. It was Billy who, yeah, let's see. Does Billy say where Annie is? Yeah, that's, oh my God, we're out of music. Okay, one more here. Anne in Polsbo says, please wish, please join me in wishing my 10 pal Emma in New South Wales a very happy birthday. day i have so enjoyed our e chats silly picks and such these last almost four years oh and such and such i see okay what do you do there in three two and one i have so enjoyed our e chats silly picks and such these last almost four years it was such a treat to meet up with you and your sweet mom in portland last fall i hope we can do it again soon down your way enjoy your birthday Weekend Adventure in Huskisson. Whoa. I'm guessing that's a new South Wales. So explain that. I just did. Michael, it's not the water.

Happy Blur's Day

to everyone. Yeah, that's a big haul of Blur's Day.

It's so weird how some weeks it's like two people and some weeks there's like 200.

I am winded. You know what? Take the rest of the day off, Andrew. I am sweating. Wow.

Go lie down and watch Sophie's Choice. I gotta make some stock.

By the way, Sophie's Choice is about the Holocaust. Oh, I had a feeling, yeah. That's why people, and I think that's fair, like people are just kind of like, oh, like, I don't know, which cookie do I want? It's a Sophie's Choice. I can understand why that would not, um, you know, why that would not seem appropriate.

Yeah, I have removed it from my kind of go-tos for that same reason. I mean, I don't think I was hurting anyone's feelings, but it's just like, it's just too serious of a thing for the unseriousness of whatever the hell I'm doing. Yeah.

So anyway, did I ever wrap that up? So yeah, Schindler's List is a good movie. I give it at least one thumbs up, probably two thumbs up.

How many popcorns do you get?

How was that? I had to make the popcorn sound on the fly. That's my favorite thing about that, when they get the popcorn rating. That's actually pretty good. One of your better impressions. What should I watch tomorrow? What movie should I watch?

A Cry in the Dark, the Dingo Ate My Baby movie. Oh, God.

I need something a little bit lighter, fair, I think.

Okay. Crocodile Dundee.

Oh, yeah.

Also Australia-based. All right. Thank you, everyone, for listening. We're going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. In the meantime, have yourselves a great Thursday. Go Mariners and go eat a bagel. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

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