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Hi, welcome to Quilting with Will. My name is Will Grello, and I'd like to introduce Lynette. Lynette taught me how to quilt a long time ago, and I thank her for it all the time in ways that she doesn't even realize sometimes. T-M-I. T-M-I-W-I-P, more like it. One man's too much information is another man's too little information, T-L-I. And one other man's J-E-I, just enough information. T-B-T-L.

Can we talk one 10 to another?

I'm an 11, but continue.

Oh, oh, look who decided to come in tardy. You know, don't think it's okay to just roll in here at 100 kilometers per hour like you're Joel Otto with the Calgary Flames, okay?

What, you think I'm dressed to talk? I'm dressed to party hardy like an MC scat cat.

It's a meme-ish thing. I actually couldn't think of the word meme for a second. I could only think of the word dank, weird.

I feel like we're just in that tired mode where you're delirious and you're laughing at silly things. My door's always open, except when it's closed. But you can open it when it's closed.

Alright, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Do you need an extra little bit of lovin'? My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.

Life's the potty, wife's your body.

Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia where it's another gray, wet day as we have now really left the bounds of summer and are entering the fall times. Can summer last forever? The answer, sadly, is not yes. That's all right. We will embrace this new reality as I've arrived at day 18 of 75 hard ish. Ish, ish. And my body is no closer to adjusting to the liquid intake. But I'm going to stick with it because that's just the kind of person I am. It's actually not the kind of person I am. I am the kind of person who gives up on things a lot. And if I'm being honest with you, I'm surprised I've done this for 18 days. Maybe you are too as the listeners. I mean, here's the thing I've stuck with probably the longest in my life, and that is TBTL, because here we are at episode 4,302 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. It's a lot of shows. It's a lot of episodes. There is a new trend at the TSA checkpoint that I'm not quite sure about.

It's a waste of time to do that.

It's also reported in the New York Times So you have to wonder if it's really a trend Or just it happened three times It's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day

So we'll do the Blur's Day messages

And we're going to talk to this guy Longest running co-bro of the show Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships Speaking of airplanes He's about to get on one and fly out to Philly For TBTL Live in Philadelphia On Saturday night Oh, when the adventure begins again He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now Good morning, my friend

I hope nobody's scrambling to take my seat right next to the bathroom on the airplane. I told you I was a little bit nervous earlier in the week when Alaska started telling me that they wanted to kind of buy my ticket. Like, hey, wouldn't you rather take a flight that gets you out there next Thursday? That kind of thing. And I've been obviously declining those requests. But I have a feeling that we might be looking at a pretty packed plane. I mean, that would be the only reason they would do that, right? Presumably.

But, you know, the vagaries of how those dynamic systems work and when a flight is really full and not. I mean, I was going to say and when it's not, although there are pretty much there are almost no empty flights anymore. That just doesn't happen because I think with the pandemic, they figured out that they could just give us worse service and still charge high prices. And then everybody wins. And by everybody, I mean the shareholders. So, yeah, the days of having a flight where there aren't that many people on it are kind of long over. But there must be some that are especially bad, especially overpacked, because that's when they start trying to get you to, you know, sort of get flexible with your plans. You have no flexibility in your plans. We need you. I have no flexibility. in philadelphia with the gear at the friends center they're right down on i believe it's

cherry street maybe in downtown philadelphia indeedly do and that's happening on saturday

night and um we are very excited about it uh looking forward to seeing some folks oh you know what i totally forgot on yesterday's show was we were supposed to announce We'll be right back.

The after party that was on the schedule, and I actually wasn't on the schedule. That's the problem. You and I had talked about it, and I forgot to do that. Can I do that right now?

I will allow it.

Hold on. I'm trying to find.

Are you looking for the name of the place?

No, I'm looking for some kind of a good announcement. Oh, okay. Kind of. Let's see. Announcement. Here's something called an announcement from Coffee Break Spanish. Let's hear what that sounds like.

Coffee Break Spanish, announcement, 24th of June, 2007. Good.

Perfect.

Hola a todos, soy Marc de Coffee Break Spanish. This is a special announcement for all our listeners. Over the past three weeks, there have been a few delays with the new content on the Coffee Break Spanish feed.

this is oddly relevant to tbtl sometimes there are delays in the content we create

have been waiting patiently for the bonus materials and basic subscribers will have been wondering where lesson 30 is we've been catching up with recording editing and a fair amount of admin and i'm delighted to announce that the premium feed is i don't know what this

is but i love it i love hearing a guy with uh what sounds like an irish accent describing why they're late delivering their spanish language update can i uh blow your mind right now can

your mind right now? Chris is leaving the studio. Chris is leaving the studio. Do you want to know what I was listening to, I believe, two days ago when I wanted to lay down and take a little

midday nap and I was tired? Was it a Duolingo language course on how to speak English in Philly?

No, it was Coffee Break Spanish episode. I don't even know what Coffee Break Spanish is. I downloaded this um this podcast on my podcast app a while back thinking maybe you know like i've always been ashamed that i don't um know spanish better i took several classes in high school and college but none of it like i never used it so i didn't retain any of it and at some point in the past couple of years i signed up i didn't sign up i just you know like downloaded the uh or signed up for the podcast i guess for coffee break spanish as i want to be clear it's not an app or anything it's just a podcast and about two days ago i was like oh let's get into some coffee break spanish i just i thought maybe if i take a nap and listen to coffee break spanish i will wake up being a spanish speaker that is amazing that you just randomly picked coffee break spanish

to make our big well i was searching for the word announcement i wonder why you have that though that was 2007 i must have also signed up for that in some kind of uh you know fugue state where i was uh wanting to learn better spanish more spanish i do have a dream um in the back of my mind that if if it all falls apart for me which let's be honest um that's always right around the corner i could see myself moving to a spanish-speaking country maybe mexico and just like going full immersion like just getting a little getting a little um casita somewhere and just kind of like hanging out and being maybe the only gringo in that town and learning spanish um that's kind of that's plan b for me are you sanding a boat are you sanding the hull of a boat i watched you know that movie turns 30 this year and it's a fascinating story i love your story the story of the shawshank redemption and how it all kind of actually came about and things that made it into the movie and didn't. You know, it was a short story from Stephen King. And this guy, Frank Darabon, who was a director of like Nightmare on Elm Street and a bunch of other kind of like horror type films, was in love with this short story and optioned it from Stephen King for $5,000. Hmm. And Stephen King never cashed the check. In fact, at some point he mailed the check, framed it and mailed it back to Frank Darabon and said, if you ever need bail money, which is pretty cute considering the topic of the Shawshank Redemption. And so let's see. I want to tell you more about Shawshank Redemption, but I also want to announce for folks that – do you have a drumroll around there or anything?

Yeah, I think I have a drumroll in here. I just want to just reflect, though, for just one more moment as I find this drumroll. This is a shorter one than yours, and it's going to end with a cymbal crash, so you've got to be ready for that. But that Coffee Break Spanish tape you just played was from 2007 like that's before tbtl why in the world do you have that saved i am i am so mystified

by that tape you just it must have just auto downloaded into my system and it's just you know it's just been following me around it follows computers yeah like that i believe what that

horror film is about it would have literally been in the days of probably like ipods huh you probably We're listening to podcasts by plugging your iPod into your computer and syncing.

syncing it up before heading out the door and being a man about town. Remember that? You lived through that era of podcasting.

When I was a man about town? Yeah. Yeah, right. I'm still coasting off of that high.

Anyway, okay, so are you ready? We can already agree, too short, drum roll. I mean, too short, let's just say efficient.

Oh, I thought there was going to be a fanfare there, like on mine, which is one of the things the listeners love about my drumroll that I play.

No, I'm just coming in with the drumroll that I have. This is the drumroll that I have, okay? Okay, all right. I mean, right now you have zero drumrolls, so... Give me a second. Let me see what...

Let me just dig through this Coffee Break Spanish. Let's see. You know what I've got? Let's see here. How about this one? Do not disrespect my duplication investigation, sir. Don't step on my boys. We will be at the Mulberry in downtown Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, after our live show in Philly. So if you come to the live show, which I know many of you are, and you're wondering where we're going to go afterwards, We're going to Mulberry, the Mulberry, 1835 Arch Street, described as an upscale Century City pub where Chef Palmer Marinelli curates a seasonal menu that's nothing short of extraordinary. I don't know if we're going to be enjoying the seasonal menu or not. I know we're going to be enjoying each other's company and we're going to be, you know, some of us anyway, rip roaring. because the event itself is at the Friends Center and is a, let's just say, alcohol-free environment. All beverage-free environment, I believe, right? Beverage-free, too?

Could I bring this bad boy? I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, can you sneak in your entire gallon jug of water? You can sneak it under your shirt.

Just come in. I'm putting peach-flavored liquid IV in it now to try to maybe help a little bit. It's kind of helping, but yeah. So the event itself is, you know, sometimes TBTL live events, well, I would say every other time, there's been an open, or there's been a bar available. People can grab an adult beverage if they want, et cetera. That's not going to be the scene at the Friends Center. It is going to be fun. We are going to do the show. You're welcome to pre-funk if you want. But that means we're also really excited about the after get-together. So we'll be there. The tens of listeners who've come out to Philly will be there. We're all meeting up at the Mulberry right after the show. So the show starts at 6. I think we're looking to wrap the show by like 8 because we're supposed to be out of there by 9. And then we'll all kind of migrate over to the Mulberry, and we'll have a time. So mark your calendars and also orient your phone. Put in the Mulberry on Arch Street. That's where we're going.

And let's see here. I wanted to tell folks that it's about a five-block walk. I'm looking at it here. It's like kind of three blocks right down the street from the Friend Center and then one over. So that's a quick little – it looks like it's like less than half a mile if you're walking, about nine minutes, it says. So it's right there in the neighborhood. Yeah, and thanks to Genevieve, by the way. Yeah, thanks, V. She has worked hard to like – she was calling a lot of different places and balancing a lot of different needs, places that could hold a group as big as ours and still like kind of provide what we need and everything so uh this is where we're ending up and i'm feeling pretty good about it i was really

intent on us avoiding one of the darkest days in tbtl history and that would also be one of the darkest days in the history of the bridge of my nose which was when we had a get together at bush garden in seattle and um this was in the early days of the show um i guess maybe not so early that there were no because in the earliest days of the show we had no listeners and then after six months we had some listeners and we had just kind of like a get together at bush garden like let's all hang out and i went in the day before and said maybe this was my problem is it was like the day before instead of weeks before i said we're going to bring in some people here could you maybe bring in an extra bartender to make sure you can handle the capacity they said absolutely and then we all showed up on like that friday night and they had done absolutely nothing to get ready for this they probably just thought that i was you know a nutcase or something but the place was completely packed nobody could get a drink people kept giving me shots i kept taking those shots because i felt embarrassed about the poor planning on my part and then next thing you know they had to kind of like whisk me out of a back exit of the building with a cape over me like James Brown leaving the stage or something.

And then that night, I banged my nose on the sash of the window at my house and hurt my nose. So anyway, I'm hoping that's not the scene on Saturday night. So big thanks to Veeves for actually getting us a place that's going to clear out some space for us, and that is the Mulberry in Philadelphia.

Who do you think is most likely to break their nose on Friday night? I assume that the 10s are already— I'm sorry, Saturday night. I hope not. Well, maybe Friday night. At some point over the weekend, who's most likely to break their nose? You, me, Veeves, John Sklaroff, or your mom.

Well, I mean, I would say probably, and this, by the way, doesn't have to be involving partying, right? This is just like walked into a door.

Sure, I'm pretty clumsy, honestly, and only getting clumsier.

I can see it happening for you. If it's a fun, I hope this goes over well. If it's breaking your nose from fun, it's Genevieve, 100%, top of the list. If it's breaking your nose from

Trying to plug something into an audio board That isn't stable That's me

I would say if it's breaking your nose From trying to jump out of someone's way Because you think you're blocking Some sort of an islet to you If it's breaking your nose Because you're trying to somehow low-key The fact that you're a Yankees fan By kind of shitting on the Yankees But also secretly watching every single game Then it's probably John And if it's breaking your nose because you waited until Saturday at about 12 noon to start the prep on TBTL Live in Philadelphia, that's probably me.

And if you break your nose because you found a cheaper flight that takes you into Baltimore instead of Philly, but they do have to, it's a rhinoplasty flight. They have to break your nose and rebuild it on the flight,

then that would be your mom. A hundred percent. Yeah, that's definitely, actually Susie B is in the air even as we speak. Oh, really? Mary Lou are flying standby on Alaska. Maybe we can get a download on this on Saturday night in Philly because, you know, they are always watching the bottom line and they know someone. I think my Aunt Mary Lou knows someone who is or used to be a flight attendant for Alaska Airlines and so they're doing some kind of standby craziness to get out to Philly, which sounds just like an absolute living nightmare to me. Oh, man.

The reason, I mean, it's been a long time, and I still dislike flying for a lot of reasons. But my earliest experiences flying, because I did not fly as a kid. I think I did when I was like two years old or something, but I had no memory of it. But when I started flying, which was right after college, I think, aside from my first flight, which my friend Pauly paid for, he was like one year older than me, and he had like a salaried job, which probably wouldn't even like be enough to rent an apartment in Seattle these days but you know back in the early 2000s he was like my older friend who had a salaried job and he was like oh my god so on his largesse I flew out to Boston to visit him the the fateful trip that would um actually introduce me to Genevieve but um after that if I was flying anywhere my mom was a flight attendant for American Airlines at the time and so she would have me like not I would I wasn't flying with her but she would arrange these flights for me and it was standby and it was the worst i remember sleeping like like because you know you fly standby you're rolling the dice about whether or not you're going to get on a plane uh there were times i did not get on a plane and i was stuck in some like airport like during a layover i don't remember where literally like trying to sleep and you know me i'm not somebody who like goes to the airport with like my own pillow and fuzzy slippers like ready to camp down i was probably wearing doc martins and had a ponytail at the time and was like trying to sleep on some like bench that was probably designed to not sleep on in some airport while like i remember literally everything was closed and they were just like sort of like um polishing the floors around me like i don't know if you've been in i'm sure you have in all of your travels like you're in an airport where it's essentially closed for business but you're just there because your mom is a flight attendant

and you're stuck between places right that's going to be what happens well i hope it isn't But that's potentially what could happen to my mom and my Aunt Mary Lou. Although I will say this. If there's anybody who will figure it out, it's my mom. That's where I get that. I was talking on the show the other day about advocating for myself with the airline. And I believe you said the takeaway is not for Luke to advocate for himself more. Because that's not been something that hasn't happened enough, if that makes sense. It's a lot of double negatives there. I learned all of that from my mother. So I figure even if, no matter what happens, they will, unless there is an offer of some kind of free airline bucks to go to baltimore unless that happens my mom will definitely make it one way or the other she'll be in philly and she's got

saturday night she's you know and she's built in some buffer time here too so she does end up in raleigh instead she still has time to make a road trip of it yes exactly and i'm that's the thing

my mom is coming out to be part

of tbtl live in philly but also of course she's visiting family she's padding it on both ends she's uh going down the shore um there's you know there's a she'll she's making a a week or two out of it um this is uh something i'd like to discuss today so it doesn't come up on saturday night because it feels a little personal to a conversation my mom might hear andrew but um i i recently purchased a personal grooming device. Like a little, you know, sort of, what would you call it? Like, it's a razor, but it's like an electric razor. It's a shaver. Thank you. I bought a shaver. A trimmer, maybe. On Amazon, I don't know, three months ago, and it came, it was the most highly recommended one, and it had a million attachments, like different guards and things, and I mean, it was like i guess if you were gonna open up your own barber shop and you needed to groom beards and other things and like it was way way more stuff going on than i needed and i didn't want to have all these different guards like sitting on the countertop but i also felt like did i overpay for this was i paying a lot for all these guards i'm never going to use well the problem solved itself because the thing completely freaking died on me after like i don't know a month or something which was just weird i thought the battery i charged it the holding it just something in it just shorted out was it expensive uh i probably in on the order of

50 or 60 bucks yeah huh um i guess maybe you probably didn't feel like dealing with like contacting the company about a defective product because you weren't that thrilled with it anyway

maybe that was in the back of my mind i mean i first of all i i think i only recently really started leaning into the return feature on amazon um and now now that i know how to do it it's actually a pretty easy process i think if i would have been more up on that i would have um i would have done that or i don't know maybe it was a little bit more than a month maybe it was a few months it was but it burned out far far too soon considering also how non-hersuit i am i am not let's just say as far as uh you know these kinds of uh you know shavers go it was not being asked to do a lot i'm not exactly george the animal steel over here um but anyway so i uh threw it out eventually and then thought i got to get another one of those and then i didn't for a couple of months and i don't want to get too uh personal here i don't want to get too tmi i want to be jmi more like wip i want to be jrmi just the right wait what does he say he says just enough one person's tmi is just the right amount can i just say one since you brought it up i was thinking

about this during the intro sorry to interrupt but is that tim and eric it is tim and eric and It's Will Forte on Tim and Eric just being his Forte-ist. And the woman, when she says TMI, and he says TMI WIP, I was always like, what does that mean? Because I'm so culturally illiterate. I'm like, if that means something kind of off color or isn't appropriate for our audience, I don't want to use that as intro tape. But this is years ago. And so I remember looking it up, TMI WIP. And according to the internet, the consensus is he was just riffing. That doesn't mean anything. And now when I hear him, I laugh even more. That's so great. He just first thought, best thought, WIP, and then he tries to clean up his joke sort of as he rambles up. With just the right amount of information.

Well, I'm hoping that this stays in the just the right amount of information. But anyway, I had a good run there of a few months where there was, you know, the specific part of my body where I tend to try to keep things under control was not being kept under control. And so finally, I decided that I should go back to personal grooming, as it were. So I go back on Amazon because it worked out so well the first time. And I'm looking around, and again, they're still recommending the particular brand that I had bought before that had totally failed me. So I'm like, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm looking around. I don't ever buy anything that's sponsored. You know how when you're looking on Amazon, the first options are always sponsored? For some reason, I assume they're up to something. Like, oh, you've got to pay money to be at the top of the list of things that Amazon's recommending for me? Okay, I'm suspicious.

Now, that's different than the top pick, right? There's something called Amazon's pick, which I don't think is a sponsorship. Are those different things? Do you know what I'm talking about? I think those are different things. Okay, I think so, too.

So, yeah, if it's a top pick, I'll give it a look. If it's sponsored, I won't for some weird reason. Like, oh, you're spending money to try to build your brand and awareness? I will punish you for that by going to something that's not sponsored. That's just how my brain works. So, I find this one that seems like it has some good reviews. Critically, they will send it to me in the next two or three days and it's maybe in the neighborhood of like 50 bucks or something. And what I didn't realize is that I'm ordering from the Manscaped company. And I think that may just tell you all you need to know about this device that I ordered, which is called the Lawnmower 3.0. And I saw right away that I had entered a world of like bro humor that I was not intending to. Just within the purchase, not even now.

Within the packaging. I thought maybe you're now getting targeted ads for, like, spice up your man cave with this, you know, bear's throw pillow.

It's only a matter of time, Andrew, because when I opened this thing up to take a look at the device itself, let me just tell you what it says inside the box. It's a whole new balls game. No, thank you, Rich Gazarian. I hate this shit.

Andrew do you realize it's a whole new balls game no I didn't I did not realize that I hate the I hate the punnery around around these men's products like in the the I mean listen they're trying to sell a product I guess you need to lean into it I don't think that just like tiptoeing around the idea of the fact that we need to you know use toilet paper after we go to the bathroom or all these things that I prefer not to talk about anyway like if you're selling the product i realize that you need to make a sales pitch for it but like this this leaning hard into like even even the the the was it was it squatty potty commercials where they had like the the unicorn poop like all the like hey let's be like really weird and frank it's not for me or you're unsurprised to hear that this is not for me well you're okay you're committed to playing

and kind of i guess an old balls game but i'm playing a whole new balls game okay andrews well what i would say is uh it works i mean there's that this is the irony it's actually way better than the other one it has one job it's one job is to keep things kind of under control in those areas of the body as opposed to the thing i had bought before which again was was some sort of you know universal tool that i could use for a whole bunch of different things including like beard care and stuff this thing is like its only purpose in life is for that part of the body and will give them that i mean uh it seems like it's seems like it's well designed to the task it came with a a guard that i can pop on only one but that's fine because it's just the right guard for the job so it's like they have a good i think they have a good product but i definitely don't need them telling me it's a whole new balls cape it is also not for me i um have a beard that i

have to keep somewhat trimmed and um i don't like the trimmer that i have it's been a real struggle for me for years now. When I first started growing a beard, you know, God knows, I'm going to put that around probably 20 years ago that I started having a beard pretty regularly. I would go to like the CVS and I would buy, I don't remember the brand, but I think I bought like three of these in a row over the course of probably like six years or more or something like that. It was just some simple beard trimmer that came with some sort of maybe an adjustable guard or a couple of different guards so that i could get it to the right length right and then for some reason i stopped being able to find that particular one i remember even one time like losing it or leaving it behind and having to buy the same product on vacation which is why i bought the same one so many times i was like it was just simple and it was right there for me well whatever that was is no longer available and also um cvs's and drugstores have just gotten really weird in that time you know like i feel like you have to you have to get a cyber truck and drive into the cvs I don't know like answer some riddles so they'll open this this case for you with two people with two different keys or whatever like it makes it it really does make the browsing experience very difficult and in fact I believe that the the the shaver I have now or the trimmer that I have now for my beard I bought somewhat under duress at a Bartell drugs not under duress but I had to ask somebody to unlock the case for me and she sort of stood over me the whole time I mean she's just doing her job but like i felt like i need to make a decision quickly and whatever decision i made wasn't great and so this is a pretty simple trimmer and it comes with an adjustable guard but the guard when you make it like kind of as um how do i put this i want it it trims it too short even if i make it at the longest possible beard length it's still too short for me um and so and that's been a real problem and also it sort of led to that disaster where i ended up kind of shaving big chunks of my beard out accidentally and then having to go with a mustache for a while but the thing is this is again where it's a solvable problem for me but i felt like it was exhausting the last time i tried to solve it and i just i don't they're just these small things in my life doesn't speak well of me then i'm just like i don't know someday I'll solve that unsolvable problem of getting a beard trimmer that I like but

the meantime i'll just use this for years yeah i'm at the manscaped website they offer a beard and balls bundle okay you know it's the beard that aside for a lawnmower ultra toolkit you did

remind me of what i was and thank you for this by the way because i realized i was rambling but my brain is kind of half dead right now but um uh i remember being in the chair at rudy's barber shop you know maybe a year ago and saying to the person who was cutting my hair and i did I was not a regular customer of his. I think it's the only time he's cut my hair. I said to him, like, hey, do you have any recommendations for, like, a beard trimmer? I just don't like the one I have.

Did he offer you the groin and go bundle?

Well, he did. Also available at manscaped.com? That was something different, actually. He did offer me that. But, no, but he kind of chuckled and said, actually, Manscaped has probably the best products. He's like, I have the beard trimmer. And I was like, yeah, okay. Thanks for asking. Yeah, and I was like, I don't want to lean into that brand. But I guess I'm saying that to your point, you and I don't like all this branding around it. And in fact, I truly detest it. But apparently they make a decent product. I know that's the problem.

Just, you know what? Let your product stand for itself, Manscaped.com. Like, make a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door. Just make a better personal body trimmer. You don't have to call it the Dome Pro Package. Because, Andrew, you're not shaving your head. You're shaving your dough.

I mean, wouldn't even – I feel like – I know – I mean, obviously, their approach to marketing really is working. I think they're probably very successful, and I'm sure this type of marketing appeals to a lot of people. But you'd also just think that, like, there are probably a lot of men out there who you could market to them as being, like, you know, like the opposite of this, almost, like, very classy. Not necessarily hiding from the purpose of it, but the Matthew McConaughey driving a Lincoln version. The Dyson of this. This is the high design. Sure, yeah.

This is for a person who accepts nothing less than excellence.

Yes, exactly. When it comes to their beard and balls.

How about this? They have a tab. I haven't clicked on this yet, Andrew, that says, Our Cause Like C-A-U-S-E What in the world could The cause of the Manscaped Company be? Huh, that's

Interesting, do you want me to really try to take a flyer On this? Oh, no, no, no It's just a pun? No, it's

Not I guess that their cause is And this is a good thing, but they're partnering With the Testicular Cancer Society But the headline is, We Save Balls I wonder if anyone At the company has noticed that um there's some entendre there that like you know like that there's some jokes to be made around the topic of testicles yeah i wonder if that's occurred to them at any point they should

hire somebody who likes to play with words what if they had an app you could use that would help

you test yourself for testicular cancer and they called it the ball checker app i mean this isn't

even playing with words anymore it's just like saying we're just going to be crude about it

oh how andrew the section i'm sorry i i i need to we need to get off this topic because it's annoying uh to you and the listeners i just can't i'm just i've gone down to uh the even deeper depths of this website uh their whole section for trimming your nether regions is the groin section the tagline is do it for the boys and then it's a guy sitting in a hot tub and he I guess doesn't have shorts on, you can't really see in the water, but then there's two smaller versions of his head that are popping out of the hot tub, his full face, and I believe those are the areas of his body that he's going to be working on with this stuff. What about,

I mean, maybe we could help, like, maybe if you can't beat him, join him, and maybe we just offer some, like, how about our business is groin? No, don't. Get me off this topic. That's good. I would go with that.

You beat me down. What do we think, I'm just, I'm wondering what the, I'm wondering, and I feel like I already know, oh, you know, not what I would necessarily figure, I was like, I wonder who the CEO of Manscaping is, like I just had a certain kind of picture of a guy in my mind, this guy, apparently the founder and CEO of Manscaped is named Paul Tran, meet our founder and CEO, who is our founder? He was born in Vietnam. He grew up with Little, but he has a big outlook on life, although he experienced adversity at a young age. He's a first-generation immigrant in America. Now it's actually making me root for Manscaped.

Yeah, I know. This is not the backstory I expected.

I know. I have to say, Paul, I'm really glad that you are having success with this, but I really think we need to do some adjusting to the verbiage or the branding. One of his earliest entrepreneurial ventures was when he launched a weekly raffle back in the year. elementary school. It was a basic concept with no more than nickels on the table. This sounds like illegal gambling, by the way. When he was running an illegal casino. Paul started Manscaped in 2016 with a vision of striving to...

Wait, what was he doing with the nickels? I'm sorry. Can you explain the name?

Okay, sorry. It was a basic concept with no more than nickels on the table, but something his classmates gravitated to. That's the extent of the rap. Again, it was illegal gambling at school. Fast forward several years, And he put himself through college at the University of Southern California, parlayed his education and creative spirit into his next endeavors, which included launching and selling multiple businesses. Now we arrive at the Manscaped movement, Andrew. Paul started Manscaped in 2016 with a vision of driving the movement that changes the face of men's grooming and makes a lot of jokes about balls. By focusing on the needs of what has for too long been a sensitive and often stigmatized subject. Manscaped has successfully untapped a global market of male consumers. I believe they are unfamiliar with the word untapped. This is literally, Manscaped has successfully untapped a global market of male consumers. Wouldn't it be tapped? Yeah, tapped into. Tapped into? Mm-hmm. I don't know who's writing this stuff, but I'm going to... They're partnering with Steve-O, by the way. oh great steve-o and manscaped check your balls regularly anyway i do i love steve-o by the way i would i will say this like steve-o has the most interesting kind of i don't know if we'd call it second or third act he's a now he's been sober for years and he's actually very like i see him on tiktok and other places a lot he seems like a very very kind of like thoughtful kind of put together person who's i think been really influential in a lot of other people's lives Like from being the guy who was like, you know, stapling his nipples to his belly and doing everything and anything on Jackass, like being the most crazy person to realizing that he was his life was not going to be long. And then actually just kind of like getting it together and being a real force for good. I have a very pro Steve-O.

yeah somebody who had zero interest in jackass i've told you before that um like in between watching a double feature or something i found myself sort of accidentally in a theater a year or two ago whenever the last uh jackass movie came out and i just watched i had no idea what it was going to be on the screen i just snuck into this theater to to wait for genevieve or something and i saw the first maybe let's say 15 20 minutes of it and i was like kind of surprised at how charming and good looking he is yeah and he also i don't know why this matters but

his father i believe was the ceo of pepsi canada yeah which you also for some reason don't see for steve-o like i think he grew up in like a literal castle or something in canada i don't know what i thought steve-o's backstory was but it wasn't dad was ceo of canada pepsi wait a second wait a second

steve-o is not the main who's the main i'm thinking of johnny knoxville sorry i i meant johnny knoxville i'm looking at steve-o here i don't is he handsome i guess some of these photos he's handsome i was thinking of johnny knoxville johnny knoxville cut a very different um form

than i than i expected he is yeah he's a very i i love johnny the difference between like i didn't need to come around on johnny knoxville i was always a fan i did need to come around on steve-o yes okay yeah yeah but uh but yeah it seems like the crucible that was jackass has kind of either purified you and you become like a kind of interesting adult like johnny knoxville or steve-o or unfortunately it destroys you and you become bam margera who's never really been able to kind of seemingly get back on the good foot with things and then there's a number of them who've like passed away due to you know like ryan dunn was one of those now passed away so So, but again, back to the important takeaway. Steve-O has partnered with Manscaped to try to encourage people to check their testes. Thank you for being a 10. Hey, let's thank some daily donors who are keeping TBTL in business with their financial support, which we are so appreciative of. We really, really are. Lord knows the manscaping space has been thoroughly dominated now by a different company. So that's that door is closed to us. So pretty much all we've got is this, Andrew.

Yeah, I mean, unless again, unless we follow our hearts to like kind of create a more kind of what's what I'm looking for, like a high minded, respectable competition to manscape prestige. Prestige. Yeah, exactly.

um troy and felicia hughes are in cedarburg wisconsin and are supporting the program thank you thank you also anand rajarama

is in san francisco california thanks anand hey look who it is it's summer vaughn in broomfield colorado thank you summer anna steenstra is in cranberry township pennsylvania don't worry i'm mapping it let's see here this is a cranberry that just sounds like it's a giant ocean spray

commercial is it a cranberry bog with those two guys standing in it wow it is very near ohio So it's pretty far west. It is a five-hour and 18-minute drive. If you leave right now, I'm worried that traffic might get a little bit thicker during the rush hour. So get on the road right now and start heading to Philadelphia. You'll be there in five hours and 18 minutes, and then we'll see you on Saturday.

Yeah. Anna, get to the Friends Center in Philadelphia to hang out with us, please. And then Hunter Bennett Daggett, who's in Portland, Oregon. And Hunter, it's not too late to get on a plane and come on out to Philly. We may be on the same flight, you and I. I don't know. I'm flying out there as well. Maybe we'll see you on the plane, Hunter. Thank you for the support. And then Sarah Edelman is in Seattle, Washington. Sarah, thank you so much for being a 10. Thanks for supporting TBTL. We could not do this without you. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. top story um hat tip by the way to listener teresa who sent us this article i had missed it and teresa said i would love to get your thoughts on this trend and the trend appears to be at least according to the new york times this was claire moses and remy tooman writing shoes off laptops out airport tray photo shoot i thought this would be an interesting story for you too andrew because you are a photographer and you have an eye for photography and when I first saw the headline I was like oh hell no um I don't need anyone slowing me down in the TSA line but then I saw the photographs and I thought they were kind of interesting what do you have you have you had a

chance to look at this article you know I saw this a few days ago but I don't know that I saw it in the New York Times I'm going to take a look at the article you have here I saw it somewhere but You know, I didn't see the photos, or maybe I just kind of skipped past them. Yeah, I didn't see this, but I'm looking at them now, and it's exactly what I sort of pictured. I mean, here's the deal, and we'll get into, like, if this is actually a trend or not, but, I mean, it makes sense to a degree. It doesn't make sense that people should be holding up the line, but I think that every time I put my belongings into one of those trays, you sort of arrange it naturally in a way. You're not supposed to have things overlapping too much anyway, so you put your little shoes here, and then if you – I tend to not take off my belt unless they really force me to because my belt is fine. But, like, if you do take off your belt, maybe you roll it up in a little coil. You put it there. And it reminds me of, I want to say it was called knolling. Do you remember that trend? It was, like, an Instagram trend of knolling, which is, like, it's basically this. Like, you take all of the objects in maybe your drawer or whatever, and you set them up on your nightstand. And then you take an overhead shot of them. And people would say it's kind of Wes Anderson-y. Like Wes Anderson has a lot of knolling sort of photos and like the Moonrise Kingdom type of vibe.

Or like even the credits for Napoleon Dynamite.

I don't remember that, but I'll bet you that's it. I haven't seen that movie in forever.

Yeah, it's definitely knolling. I'm glad I know that term now. That's exactly what's going on with these. So the trend apparently is to arrange your stuff in the little tray that you have to use for the TSA and then take a picture of it. But amazingly, one of these reporters was able to find somebody who had recently been in the presence of someone doing this. On a recent afternoon in Los Angeles International Airport, not all passengers were aware of the trade trend, yet some were baffled, European travelers in particular, and some were intrigued. Others said they had encountered it. They don't look very nice, said Alexandra Lee Sewer, 26, who had recently seen someone arranging in Denver. The trays themselves, she said, were disgusting. A 2018 study found that the plastic trays carry more cold germs than airport toilets. Oh, nice. Teresa Lutwak, 58, who said she traveled almost every week for work as a sales manager for a vineyard, had noticed women in their 20s and 30s, who she guessed were on girls trips, trying out the trend in the last six months or so. Across the country at LaGuardia in New York, a sense of skepticism prevailed. By the way, that very much checks out. You went to LaGuardia and asked people about this. It was probably like, yeah, a sense of skepticism. New Yorkers did not seem eager to add an obstacle to their trips. And that was to me, my sort of thought was, I do think that these, listen, I like beauty in unexpected places.

And I do think these photos, they're kind of nice looking, but also anything that slows down that TSA moment is really something I'm going to respond poorly to. Because we're all kind of, we're all hating life anyway. We're all getting hollered at by the people. This is something that's been going on at Newark Airport, which I can speak to because I've been there so many times recently. it happened three times in a row Andrew and it makes me think that it's not a one-off even though it was described to me each time as a one-off let me explain you go through you get in the pre-check line and I mean people probably know this if you do the TSA pre-check if you have that little thing on your ticket it means you don't have to take your shoes off and you don't have to take your electronics out so you go through the pre-check line at Newark and then they give you this little paper ticket and then you start going through secure or going through the thing and they're yelling at you to take your laptop out and i flashed them the ticket i said i'm pre-check and they said this is not a pre-check line i was like well is there a pre-check line and they said no we don't have any pre-check lines because they just dumped a new flight on us that we're not even supposed to have and so we're not doing a pre-check line now i don't understand how having an extra flight i guess if you have a pre-check line and only pre-check people can go through it then that reduces the capacity for everybody else. But I went through it and I thought, well, this kind of stinks. So the next time I went through, I asked the person, and it was like three days later, I was like, can I go through one of these lines that's pre-checked? They go, we don't have any pre-checked lines because they just added a flight. I was like, I heard this story before. And then it happened a third time. Every time I've gone through this checkpoint, which is where you have to go through to get to Alaska Airlines at Newark, they're not doing real pre-check. They're doing this weird other form, and they're blaming it on the fact that they got an extra flight added and now they're just overwhelmed.

But you're not in the line that I'm not pre-checked, but are you still in the line with you? You have to take off your shoes, you get the backscatter thing and all of that shit?

Well, the thing about the backscatter is I don't know. That does not seem to me to always be attached to any specific way of going through the line because I'm always pre-checked and I feel like sometimes I have to do backscatter, sometimes I don't.

Oh, yeah, okay.

There's no rhyme. I mean, this is the number one problem. I've said it before and we don't have to belabor this. But the thing about the TSA stuff is it really does feel and I'm in a lot of airports. Every airport has its own set of rules. But everybody that works at that airport at the TSA thinks that this is the standard and that you should know what their specific rules are. and I feel like I want to just say every single time they're hollering because they're like I've never been to one where they give you a card and you can leave your shoes on but you can't leave your laptop in your bag that's the rule at Newark can

can I go back to these photos of these bins for a moment because I'm looking at these photos now and like I don't think that I saw this somewhere else I didn't read this New York Times piece but whatever I read also mentioned like whatever I read was more of a blurb I think but it sort of mentioned that like it's a status thing too right you can sort of you're showing it's not just like hey i arranged my belongings in an interesting way but my belongings are also you know signifiers of my yeah and i'm looking at some of these photos and they're like you know in these photos i'm looking at very cute shoes and handbags or purses or whatever one thing that i think is interesting is in three of the first four photos what is in the bin is actually cameras like canon digital cameras in most cases like those cute little like kind of looks like kind of point and shoot ones with maybe a little bit a little bit more functionality than that and that's kind of interesting like who's carrying around cameras these days I know I am but I mean for like most like young trendy people I'm assuming that these photos were taken with their cell phone so they have their cameras in there I think it's interesting that they're carrying around cameras but like to the point and maybe I'm just looking to be annoyed here because I think if one of these people who had all the and by the way I really like these bags and I'm looking at some of these shoes like they're really cute shoes but like so I'm not i'm not like um uh what's the word i'm looking for i'm not numb to the appeal of nice stuff but it's clear that these people are also like do they potentially holding up the line and doing it to sort of flash their good status flex because look at this one of them has two wrist watches in there two wrist watches now and one of them is a leather band wrist watch i wear my leather banded wrist watch through security all the time it does not cause any issues you didn't even need to take that off but you certainly weren't wearing two very different styled watches you were taking these things out of your bags now you have these nice little purses in here everybody knows that the quickest way to go through security is to take all these little things like there's some nail polish in here and some sort of a face cream and a little locket in this one right those should all go in the purse those should all go in the bag you throw it all in the bag and then you get through to the other end and then you take your stuff out of your bag i always take my keys my phone, my wallet.

and that all goes into the front pouch of my backpack. I'm not arranging the little things so I can take a photo of it and let people be impressed with my purchases on Instagram. People are now according to my thesis which is looking at two watches exposed in this one thing, people are removing objects from their bags so that they can display them and take a photo while I'm just trying to get to Philadelphia for work for God's sake

That's right the travel, the road warrior that you are

Well, I'm not trying to inflate that. No, no, no. I'm being serious. Yeah, but somebody took out their brand name nail polish here. That nail polish was not something that was in your pocket and you emptied it out. You're pulling things out of your bag to show it off.

Well, how about this person who appears to have taken their socks off and put their socks into their little ballet flats, which you don't have to take your socks off. In fact, they've asked me specifically to leave my socks on when I'm going through. The pilot has asked you. I've seen it. stinky bee strikes again like don't take your like that if if i was in line behind someone and i saw them taking their socks my first thought would be i'd want to say hey just so you know you can totally leave your socks on and then i see them placing them in their shoes and then taking a photo i'm like i'm i'm uh oh hell no on that and then the other one this is to your point the other photo that's next to that from somebody else is a pair of prada shoes which are really super cool

but not probably the most practical to wear through the airport.

And posed very intentionally, so one of them is kind of on its side, but the other is with the insole or whatever up so you can see it's Prada. And then some sunglasses that are made by Celine. I don't even know what that is. I assume those are desirable sunglasses.

And they're faced lenses down, which is bad for the lenses, but it shows you the brand on the arms if you set them that way down.

And then a very kind of classic watch, kind of like a little bit like I got Addy a watch like that for Christmas last year, like a sort of a high-end leather strap watch that's, you know, sort of, again, a classic. And then the ticket that says we're going to Puerto Vallarta. There's a lot going on with this photo.

Why do every – the first, I'm going to say, seven photos here, all of them have classic printed out boarding passes? Why? I mean, are these people not using their, they're using their phone for, um, for, to, to post this stuff up onto the old, um, ticky talkies, but they're, but they're not using their phone to get through. No, because the phone can't show off where you're going to. Like, again, like I actually like these photos and actually like the products in the photos. Like it's kind of working on me. Even those, those shoes, those flats with the socks, like the way they're arranged, like they're super cute shoes. Like I sort of get the appeal, but if I saw somebody doing this and I'm, of course, I'm filling in a lot of gaps. and making a lot of presumptions about the type of people who I imagine would be doing this, I would be super annoyed.

Yeah, I think I agree with you exactly. Purely from a photography standpoint, and also I'm interested in the objects that people are carrying around in their purse or in their life. I do think that's an interesting thing. So purely from that standpoint, I think they're kind of cool pictures. But from a are-you-holding-up-the-line standpoint, I feel like there's a better way to do this. i'm also just trying to think of what would mine look like i mean i'm pretty like at this point i'm pretty pretty organized about it but i mean you know you'd have like a receipt like that i need to take a picture of later from like moe's chowder house in the pdx airport but i got to take a picture of the receipt so i can expense it to cbs like that would just be in there loose like it'd be like you know my kind of now uh scratched up reading glasses that i have to wear but i never remember to use the little felt sleeve they go in so they're just getting destroyed but i still have to use them because i can't read stuff anymore really without the glass like i feel like what would be interesting would be to see the uncurated version of this like what do most of the bins look like it's just it's just like a haphazard some pocket change that i have for some reason that i don't even want in my life but i'm too cheap to part with it so i'm carrying around 37 cents like i got a mini to mini cable where one end is practically broken so you got

to wiggle it in order to get it in order to work i got a half a mail to mini yes exactly

there's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll you can't just listen to your soul Just remember that life is number one You can be having so much fun Just remember that life is much fun You can be number one

All right. Let's wish some people some happy Blurs.

days i want to mention that we're recording today's show a little bit earlier than usual because of my travel plans which means if you got me a blurs day at the very last minute it'll have to wait until next week and that's actually an apology that i had to make to some of today's blurs day celebrators i celebrate carryover so explain that yeah so some of these um were from last week and they're a little bit long um not long long in the tooth maybe i should say lindsey In Madison, Wisconsin says I want to wish myself a happy Blur's Day this weekend It's my 40th and I'm having some Feelings about it, which is why I wanted to reach out And hear this message Coming from the Cobros with hopes of feeling more Positive about the whole thing Oh, Lindsay, 40, you're just a kid Here's to embracing being A quote, middle-aged mom type And geriatric millennial Lindsay

Well, Lindsay, I said this on the show the other day I am really Personally, I am committing to not always reflexively describing myself as quote-unquote old and i'm really kind of looking forward to the idea of like my 50s and my 60s and you know the decades of my life being vibrant and full of joy and possibility and things like that and um and and i what what i will say is at 48 certainly turning 40 now that i look back on it i mean what a spring chicken to be so maybe we can all kind of we can all kind of lean into that a little bit of not not sort of declaring ourselves

to be old before our time and also don't pass up the opportunity to know that you are like just generally trusted in the world to like use public restrooms or whatever genevieve really leans into her like kind of middle-aged lady-ness because like she went to joanne fabrics the other day on aurora a place that might not let everybody use the restroom um but she just presents as so just, like, harmless in her 40s that she can just, like, of course we'll let you use the restroom.

Right, this person would not do a total paint job in here. Right, exactly. They've just been over in the notions department. Ironically. That was an ironic mistake on Joan's part.

I understand. Thanks for coming. Krista says, happiest of Blur's days to Sarah, TBTL's realtor extraordinaire. Oh, we know Sarah. Indeed, mom and friend. Though most of our interactions are via Instagram memes and sporadic shared laughs over the latest TBTL content gold. All right, Krista. Don't stop. Go ahead. I am so grateful for you in my life. Wishing you a fantastic birthday and year ahead. Hey, happy Blurs Day, Sarah. Yeah.

Oh, wow. Somebody's happy about those interest rates coming down. That's right. That real estate business is going to be booming again.

And I'm going to make a little apology here to Elisa, who wrote in from Paris, France, by the way, and has a Blur's Day message. I was writing to the people who got Blur's Days in right before the deadline last week but missed it because of the recording schedule. I wasn't reading the whole messages. I was just emailing people saying, hey, hope you had a great birthday week, and I'll read your message next week. and I really should have read Elisa's full note because she's not having a great birthday week. She had a very sad birthday week, in fact, and I wrote a note to her that must have seemed absolutely deranged given what she put in her original email. This is Elisa in Paris who says, I'd like to wish a shout out to myself for my own birthday. I turned 28 years old on Monday, but it was a weird one because I lost my boy cat to cancer the day before. He was my sweet, sweet angel. Anyway, cheers to another year. Love you guys. love from Paris, France, and so when I responded, hope you're having a great birthday week, you must have thought I was off my god dang nut. I'm sorry about that, Elisa, and I'm really

sorry. Now we've got to put that E on the show, too. Isn't that mean brain in that game?

I don't know. You've got all manscapy on me now. I can't tell what's clean and what's not, but anyway, Elisa, I really am sorry to hear that. I hope you were able to turn your birthday week around. I know how painful that could be. We are thinking of you, and happy Blur's Day all the way over there. And just so you know, Andrew's

going to start reading all of the emails before he responds, which makes us a whole new balls game. For you, the tens of listeners. I'm not going to respond to

any more emails at all, especially from you, Luke. Julia says, I'd like to send a happy blur. Oh, I left out a happy. Julia says, I'd like to send a happy, happy Blur's Day to Nancy in St. Petersburg from her favorite daughter. Please feel free to insert a cute story here about bubbles or bingo to inspire her to treat herself to a birthday kitten you want to do you want to do the do you want to sell this Luke birthday kitten for Nancy in st. Petersburg I gotta say yeah here's a story yeah so I

was staying over Rebecca's recently and because I snore and thrash about in the night she had gone out to sleep on her couch at which point Bubbles decided to run across her face and dig her claw into Becca's face, leaving a long, bloody scratch.

That's not... How's that?

I think you misunderstood the assignment. I'm nothing if not honest about cat ownership. Or in my case, cat absentee fathering.

Well, I have a couple of angels at my place here that I missed so desperately when we were away for a couple of weeks in Croatia.

Do you feel like Bingo missed you? By the way, I don't have a take on this. I'm not about to say, well, you're wrong. I'm curious, though, because I think you're also pretty rational about these things. Do you feel like Bingo missed you? Not to leave the professor out of this, but Bingo's the new sexy, let's be honest. Did you feel like Bingo missed you, and did Bingo demonstrate any? No, let's bring the professor. They both did, yeah. Did either of the cats, what's that?

Yeah, they both did. They both did. Nice. What did they do? When we got home, and this is going to sound ridiculous, when we got home, it's so corny, but there was a big banner kind of over the door that said, welcome home, but it was written sort of crudely because cats can't really hold markers that well, and there were little paw prints all over it.

It was the, yeah, it was like the C was backwards.

Exactly. It was spelled with a K. It was like, well, come home. But the K was backwards, like Cars for Kids. No, in all seriousness, though, we had a cat sitter, a friend of ours, Yvonne, who was looking in on them and sending us, like, these wonderful daily updates with photos. But it was pretty clear that the cats, even Bananas, like, Bananas is a more shy cat, but she still loves her pets and her attention. And she's not snuggly, but she's really affectionate in her own way. And one of those ways is, like, she likes to sleep on us. If one of us is sleeping on our side in bed, she will, at some point in the night, like, kind of crawl up and sleep on our hip. It seems so uncomfortable, but that's what she does. She likes to, like, loaf it up there. And I got to say, when we got back, both cats were so thirsty for attention and snuggles. And I also think us being gone for so long improved their relationship. Like, every day, those two are a little bit more, like, kind of brother and sister and friends. and bananas is just kind of like puts up with bingo's energy and stuff and it was so nice to come home and see them bonded even a little bit more and for them to be i mean they were just following us around everywhere i was a bit worried when i pulled out my suitcase today i was worried that bingo was gonna like be worried that we're leaving again for a long period of time but i told them that we're just going to philadelphia to meet up with some some 10 friends and that we'll be back in no time but uh yeah i think cats definitely miss people for sure okay More than you asked for. Finally, Arlen says, happy Blur's Day to me. I'm turning the big 65. And since I don't have any 10s, 11s, or 5s in my life, it's time for me to wish this for myself. And I'm okay with that. As my wife has said a few times, what is that show when I'm listening? So she's not even an apprentice 11. Glad to be a long time 10. I was going to say, Arlen, you're still answering that question. Like, you've been listening forever, and your wife is still confounded. But looking forward to putting to use my brand-new Medicare card. Woo-hoo! Happy Blur's Day, Arlen.

Happy Blur's Day, Ar.

I'll see you at the QFC.

I want to offer a slight, not an apology, maybe correction, maybe contextualization about the story of the bins, the taking photographs. I hadn't thought of this, and I must have missed this line when I was reading it the first time, this article. But some of the people who are doing this, taking these photos, point out that you can also take this photo after you've gone through security.

Oh, okay, sure, yeah.

So you get through quickly, and then if you want to spend time over there in the recombobulation area, which, by the way, is the real name for it.

Mm-hmm, I've seen that side.

If you want to spend your time organizing your stuff on the other side and take a picture, I got no problem with that.

No, that's a good point. Then it's the decombobulation area. But no, I completely agree with that. That's a really good point.

So I just want to say that, you know, there may be a way to achieve this photographic excellence without delaying everybody else. So I support that.

Whatever you do once you're through the line,

that's between you and your God. All right. That's going to do it for today's episode. But we have one more show this week before we hit Philly, and that will be tomorrow. And I want to check in with my friend Andrew and see how he's feeling about this whole thing. that'll be on tomorrow's show plus so much more so please do join us for that in the meantime have yourselves a great thursday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

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