Muse

So, do you recognize any of these men?

I was hiding in the bathroom stall, so I didn't see his face, but I heard him. He was singing along to the music at the bar.

Do you remember what he was singing?

I think it was that song, I Want It That Way.

Backstreet Boys, I'm familiar. Okay. Number one, could you please sing the opening to I Want It That Way? Really? Okay. You are my fire. Number two, keep it going. The one desire. Number three. Believe when I say. Number four. I want it that way. Tell me why. Ain't nothing but a heartache. Tell me why. Ain't nothing but a mistake. Now, number five. I never want to hear you say. Woo! I want it that way. Oh, chills. Literal chills.

It was number five. Number five killed my brother.

Oh, my God. I forgot about that part. TBTL! Oh, my God! We're having a fire sale. Oh, the burning!

How about, like, pranking an animal? No dad wants to have this talk with his son, but you're just not eating enough hot dogs. Well, alright, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TVTL. The show just might be too beautiful to live.

Carol, hold my calls!

My name is Luke Burbank, I am your host...

I'm not even here to grind and hustle, because f*** that, I'm just trying to chill!

Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia where... I am being reminded of the fact that I need to figure out the HVAC situation in here as we enter the wintertime, because it is, it's cold. I'm having a numbness in my extremities.

For me, a bathroom is just a library with a cold seat.

And, yeah, this is the beginning of a long stretch of not warm days here. Although, again, got out, did the 75 hard-ish thing. did not wear the gloves, will be wearing them tomorrow. Anyway, here we are. I'm not the only one, by the way, who is trying to intensely hydrate. Also, the rapper Ludacris is doing that.

This is Ludacris.

And we have the evidence. We'll talk about that on the show today. Oh, by the way, we're at episode 4312. 4,312 in a collector's series.

Let the fun begin.

It wouldn't be a Thursday edition of TBTL without some talk of Sky Jinx. Sky Jinx! Ooh! And that little ooh from my friend Andrew is particularly appropriate today. Because the story is from Qantas Airlines, which we have flown on. And the fact that they showed an R-rated movie with nudity to the entire plane. And you could not turn it off, apparently. Beautiful purple balls. So we'll get into that, too. Oh, and it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day. It's my birthday today. Blur's Day messages. And we'll talk to this guy, longest-running cover of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Oh, he's hilarious, dog. Who is? Andrew Walsh, who's joining us right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke.

Do you know that you and TBTL writ large are part of a recurring dream that I have And one that just reared its beautiful head. I almost said ugly head.

Thank you for saying beautiful.

Reared its beautiful head just this morning as I tried to grab some extra Zs. So you know people love Dream Talk. What I'm going to do is I'm going to introduce Dream Talk combined with numbers talk. Because that's what's really going to get them.

They say do math on the radio and talk about your dreams.

So I'm going to say, and I think you know this about me.

We talk about you and your life, your hopes, your ambitions, your dreams. all of the things that make you a very, very special person that you are. Wow, that drop is so much longer than I think it's going to be.

Very long, but it sounds good. Sorry. High fidelity. Bruce Williams. I would say that at least 85% to 90% of my dreams involve travel. Did you know that about me? I feel like I've told you this before. You did, right? I did not know that. Oh, you did not. Or I wasn't listening. Which is fine. It's weird. people usually lean in when i'm talking about this kind of stuff but um it is quite i mean almost all of my dreams are either trying to get to the airport so i can get on a plane or literally i'm on an airplane and the pilot is flying way too close to the ground i

I've had dreams where I've been on a skateboard on the highway, but I wasn't standing on it. I was sitting on it for some reason. You consider that a travel dream? It's always some sort of mode of transportation, getting from point A to point B. Sometimes it is in the ocean on a boat, or I've lost the boat. They're always travel dreams. Of that 85% to 90% of travel dreams that make up my dreamscape, I'm going to say 70% of those. I have it all written down somewhere. 70% of those are the erasers yes they take place on the last day of travel I don't know what the travel was but now the dream begins and it's time for me to pack up all the suitcases either I'm leaving a hotel or I'm leaving a house where we've been staying they're they're leaving dreams they always begin on the last day of the trip and everything must be put away before the travel can

begin does this indicate that for you the most stressful thing is travel is going somewhere or coming home from somewhere or just being in being in transit being in a in a state where it's like you don't kind of know what everything that's going on is going to be etc like is this does this identify uh travel as your main kind of um anxiety point well i think that raises a good

question because i think it raises the broader question which a lot of people are asking right now which is because are all dreams necessarily stress dreams because i'm telling you i'm dreaming about this stuff but the assumption is that they're always stressful and they're not that's a good point i don't feel like they're always stressful i feel like sometimes they are they are certainly it certainly sounds like a a fertile ground for a stress dream but i would say that they do vary in levels of stress and sometimes it is definitely oh my god we are late for the airport we didn't realize the flight takes off two hours earlier than we thought and then you're trying to get all your stuff like that no doubt about it that's a stress dream and so to come back to where you and to a certain degree the tens of listeners come into this there is a subset of these subsets of dreams in which what are we down to now 30 we're down to like this is i'm gonna say I have this dream about once every two months at the very least. The dream begins with you and I getting ready to leave a city and go our own ways. We can go our own way, famously said. That's a rumor that I heard by Fleetwood Mac. We can go our own way or MGTOW, which is a different spin on that. But you and I. And so the assumption is you and I have been traveling for work. We either just wrapped up a live show somewhere or we've just been, you know, on the road doing TBTLs. And now it is time for us to leave. But one of us realizes that we haven't done a show for Monday and we're going to be doing or the next day, whatever it is. And there's this realization that like, Luke, I can't do the show tomorrow. I'm going to be on the road all day tomorrow. What are we going to do? And then sometimes you and I will sort of set up a bunch of equipment and try to do one quickly.

So we actually solve the problem in the dream.

Well, not well, because lots of times this is where the stress will come in.

We've managed the listener's expectations.

Nothing will work right, or we keep trying to start the podcast, but it's not starting. Sometimes, and I will say, you'll like this. If you've liked nothing up until this point, Luke, you personally will like this part. possibly for the first time i've ever had these dreams possibly influenced by our recent trip to philadelphia this morning that went down there this morning's dream when we realized we are both traveling and it's going to be difficult to do a show for monday and we didn't account for that you handled it yourself you said i will handle it myself i will get the stew bot on the line and he and i will do the show in my memory that is the only time the solution has been to just sort of well i'll just say cut me out now when you think about what happened in philadelphia because you and genevieve cut me out because you gave you tricked me into getting covid and then you put me up in the rafters of the live show and you put genevieve like a doctor i gave you an injection is that what i told you was all right that's it i've been i've been rat tat tatting about my

dreams i'm done now i know exactly why i know why you've been liberated from this of this dream and why you think that I'm capable of handling things sometimes because I successfully returned the equipment to the world's sketchiest not the business is not sketchy but the place let's just say it's not a real kind of pedestrian friendly walk up kind of business the equipment rental place and

literally no sign on the outside of it and for me no people

coming out even though they said they were coming out until like my second call but i think because i was able to return the equipment successfully on time and and all of it i think that and you got it you said you got an email from them that said

the equipment has been returned successfully uh well no i had to reach out to them i said hey we returned the equipment can i get a can i get a receipt and i was happy to see that they did not seem to charge us extra for the extra equipment we rented when we realized that i was going to be banished up to the um up to the rafters for that show see i thought there was some auto

generated email that no that you know that i returned but i still think the fact that that stuff all got to the place in germantown neighborhood of philadelphia that was supposed to go i think that unburdened you from a certain and by the way well-earned suspicion that i am incapable of doing anything as an adult you know this is gonna hurt this is gonna sting a little

bit i don't i think that is living much bigger in your maybe that you don't take this as a compliment let me reframe this take this as a compliment i think that is living larger in your head than mine because that that i was just like yeah luke will return it and you returned it i expected uh that to happen i never doubted you for a moment it was honestly i haven't been thinking I believe it. That was a weird place. Can I tell the listeners about, so my experience was renting some equipment that we needed to do this show, but from afar, right? I had called a whole bunch of different places, and John had reached out to some of these places, too, looking for equipment rental. I ended up on the phone with one guy who I believe was just crazy, who quoted me an insane amount of money.

What was the amount of money?

It was like $570 to rent some microphones, some mic stands, and a board, and he would not stay on the phone with me for more than 15 seconds before putting me on hold. I've got to put you on hold again. I've got to put you on hold. I've got another call. I don't know what this guy had going on.

The equipment rental business in Philadelphia is booming.

It was like a million red flags, and I also didn't have a baseline for how much I should be charged for this, but that just seemed extremely high, extremely high. for the relatively simple needs that we had. And so I remember thinking that we were going to go with that guy, and then I kind of slept on it, and then I woke up the next morning. I'm like, no, we're not going with that guy. Sometimes things take me a while to process sometimes, and maybe you would have gotten off the phone with this guy immediately and been like, we're not doing business with him. I didn't feel like I had a lot of choice, and so I was trying to imagine. And so I just remember worrying about that for a day and then waking up and being like, no, if worse comes to worse, and I think you and I talked about this, we'll drag our own equipment out there. We'll pay to have it shipped. Like, we're not dealing with this guy. But then I made some more phone calls and called this company that I thought was going to be too highfalutin for us. I thought they were going to say, no, we have to... Yeah, it's called, like, D4K Rental or something. D24. And I thought they were going to have to come out and, like, put on the entire, like, present... Like, I called these other companies, like, no, no, no, if you rent from us, we put on the show. We send our people out. There's going to be pyrotechnics. The people...

There will be gaffing.

Yeah, the people at the Friend Center were highly against pyrotechnics in the historic Friend Center.

We do gaff. We de-gaff. We do give a... Oh, oh. Trying to make a don't give a bleep reference, but then work gaff into it. Didn't really. Sorry.

The Friend Center also was against gaffing. I said, I don't have any gaff tape. And the guy looked at me. I think Chris looked at me. He's like, you cannot use gaff tape in here. I was like, okay, well... Yeah, it's all like historic. Those pews are all historic and everything.

premise of gaffing tape is that it doesn't stick to things and it doesn't leave a residue isn't

that the main purpose that's what they say on ask jeeves although i will say in the a few instances we needed tape we used like painter's tape and painter's tape is way more gentle now you're not going to painter's tape is not going to do a good job of holding down the kinds of cables and stuff that we need but he had like um he had like what he called bridges or something he had like actual physical things that we could put down over

Bridges, a liberal conservative dialogue with Larry Josephson, I'm Larry Josephson so anyway, did you ever, I'm sorry this has come up before, but did you ever work at a station that played Bridges, a liberal conservative

dialogue with Larry Josephson, I'm Larry Josephson no, but I was just going to say though just to paint this scene, I end up hooking up with D24, this rental place, and I make the arrangements from Seattle, I have a lot of anxiety about whether I've rented the right stuff, whether they exist, like just all kinds of stuff, I arrive in Philly i have my own stuff going on um and that is add to the anxiety what's that i said we would

eventually learn yes exactly you were you had a lot going on and then i and then i i just like i

punch it into the i punch the address for this this production company into the into the lift app or whatever i was using and

and uh it drops me off the the driver's kind of like is this the place are you sure he's like drop me off like next to like a a used tire store that was next to i believe another used tire store and uh no foot traffic at all very industrial part of town where kind of a couple of roads come together into sort of a point and i'm like he's like do you want me to wait around i'm like No, no, no, you just go. This is my journey now. This is where you must fly away, and I will figure this out.

I have to get myself to the top of Mount Doom. Yes. Samwise.

Oh, my goodness. And you've seen that, because now a couple of days later, when you go to return this equipment, and I gave you a heads up, I'm like, it's going to seem like this is not a real place. But I'm like, I need this equipment to do this show. I'm racing back to the friend center once I can rent this stuff. But I'm looking around. There is nothing that says D24. There is nothing that appears that I'm even in the right part of town. I call the number.

What it looks like is a typical Philadelphia little row of apartments. And then one of them has a kind of like a pretty large garage door. But all of the doors are residential.

You saw residential stuff? Oh, I guess I didn't realize it was residential.

Well, I'm saying it looks like if you were to look at the little block this thing is on, it looks like they're just normal doors. It looked like apartments to me with one kind of larger door that, you know, was relevant to whatever they're called, D24.

It definitely felt very kind of industrial to me. It seemed more like warehouses to me with, like, metal doors, but maybe – but I have sort of selective vision on these things. But it definitely – it felt uninhabited, and, like, literally I was just, like, watching guys across the street, like, push tires back and forth. And I was like, this doesn't seem right. I did end up calling the number, and they said, oh, yeah, there's a – we don't have a sign. It is just the gray steel door next to our address, and then they said, you know, push the button next to the address, and we'll come and get you, and I did that. But there was a moment where I was just standing on the street just saying, well, we didn't bring our own equipment, and I rented a bunch of equipment from a place that doesn't exist. The one thing that made me think, no, this isn't a scam is that this place did not charge that much. I'm like, if this place was a scam, they would have charged me a lot more, like the first guy. This would have been a pretty big scam for like $130 or whatever it ended up being. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Well, I still want to take the credit for getting the equipment back and liberating you from your stress dream. By the way, a really interesting question. Are all dreams stress dreams? Because I would say maybe, like in one way or another, like why else is your brain doing that?

what about like um what about sexy you won the lottery what about sexy dreams are those stress dreams well the way we do them probably tell me about that one you had this morning they're stressful for somebody involved well okay i i can make listen how do i how do i present this in a

family-friendly way uh as a as a young person i uh had a lot of sexy dreams as many young people do oh sure and uh you could argue that it's still anxiety related your body is anxious because it wants to get some kind of poison out and it's releasing the poison um because again it's like what what is the purpose of our brain running a simulation of like a purely good thing what's the evolutionary advantage of that versus this is a thing that our brain does to try to kind of handle something get in front of something deal with something it seems like the only evolutionary advantage is for all dreams to be essentially stress dreams however they manifest it is true

and when i think about my dreams now i'm a stressed out person anyway pretty high you know i run pretty high in the anxiety i'm too blessed to be stressed you know um i'm too stressed to be blessed um a lot of them do you know are wrapped up in some sort of stress or anxiety so i'm definitely i'm not trying to deny that but i swear i know in my life i've just woken up from dreams it's rare but they're just so nice have you ever had one of those dreams where it's just so nice you just all day you kind of keep thinking about it and wishing you could go back there

i've definitely had very good dreams where i was happy in the dream i don't tend to remember my dreams very well so i i don't i can't say that i've ever been in the sort of afterglow But again I would just I would say that even if the dream Even if the surface layer of the dream If our experience of the dream Is a positive I still think it's a big fat brain Chewing on big fat problems Just because I just don't see Why are Well actually I'm talking myself out of my theory I guess there is an argument that like If you're anxious in real life and stressed And your brain goes somewhere fun When you're sleeping That is a bed

Thank you.

to you so maybe that's why good dreams happen as opposed to purely just being

an anxiety processing machine also are in this gets into a bigger question which we should tackle definitely here today is everything that the human experience is everything that the human body experiences in 2024 a you know an imperative is it definitely something that is related I mean look at look at evolution has done to dogs like at a certain point like these little dogs we've created um depending on the breed evolution or us yeah yeah well that and that that's maybe that's a bad example because of because of human uh intervention there but like is everything that the human body does in 2024 aligned with evolutionary evolutionary imperative and i would say no like i would say at this point like and we've introduced enough factors that we're also just weird creatures right or

maybe i'm wrong i hard agree that we are weird creatures i don't think we've been around long enough to achieve escape velocity from most of the stuff that we're doing i think is still a result of some sort of natural selection give it a hundred thousand years and we'll be god knows what will be happening but i still this is why i think that we do so poorly around like the technology that we now have because we haven't been around long enough to to sort of like evolve around it it came in the last 10 years or 20 years you know social media and phones and stuff and we're still out on the you know serengeti in terms of our uh our the way that our brain works is is my theory but i have you know little evidence to back that up it's just my theory

yeah i'm not sure i'm gonna look it up on the little um computer that i carry around in my pocket all the time it is a good question like what is the deck of card size thing that can transport you anywhere yes and can translate languages us up as a society yes and it keeps us plugged into all of the worst uh that is happening at all times around the world yes

that one that's the one i was talking about thanks for returning that equipment

hey let's thank some of our donors today these are the nice people who are

making tbtl possible with their donations folks like grace marshall of newfield new york i've never heard of newfield new york it's next to old field i'll make my joke i always make if you get to newfield you've gone too far that's my joke about anything that's west or east doesn't really work actually with newfield but uh if you get to newfield look grace marshall up in a respectful way yeah say thanks grace by the way great name beautiful name i love your name happens to be my daughter's name i'm interviewing someone tonight for livewire named joy sullivan and you know i have this tattoo of the word joy the dish detergent joy on my wrist and it's not you know because of the poet joy sullivan oh by the way we'll be at the alberta rose theater tonight please come say hi um but do i bring it up with i mean but i the question is not do i bring it up how long into the conversation will it take for me to bring it up is it going to be 10 seconds or 20 seconds can i offer a

suggestion wrap it maybe the answer to that question should have been or no i believe um wrap it up in cellophane like it's brand new and then show it to her and say i got this for you that is now where do you get your inspiration for your poems oh my wait till we're on stage

just pull the sleeve on my suit coat back. It's just cellophane. It's just weeping. You know, that's the term, by the way.

Oh, is that what it's called?

Yeah, when your tattoo... You don't have any tattoos, obviously. I do not, no. When your tattoo is kind of, you know, sort of off-gassing, when it's doing whatever it does right after you get it and it's wrapped up in that cellophane, it's called weeping.

And then you got to get one for... Who's your other guest? Loftus, the hot dog book.

Oh, yeah, Jamie Loftus. Jamie Loftus, yeah.

Yeah, I don't know.

Hot dog tattoo for Hurt Carvel Wallace will be there, the great writer. I'll get a – I'm trying to think of what would be relevant to his book. Maybe a tattoo of the NBA basketball player Andre Iguodala, who he co-wrote a book with.

Oh, or don't we have a – this might be somewhat disrespectful, but I feel like we have a famous drop that uses Carvel, right? If I've got the time, he's got the diapers. Yes, do I have it here?

Or vice versa.

What do you say we go out and get some Carvel? I got the time if you got the diapers. So there's your tattoo for all your guests.

Andrew, I would welcome you to introduce a queer black man. with that drop on stage at live wire with that drop i would highly encourage you to try that

like i said it might not be as respectful as what you're going for i don't know

you know who's highly respectful sean millinder who's in dunkirk maryland i love that i also didn't know there was a dunkirk maryland me neither how'd they get all the boats there i mean isn't that the uh yeah i was thinking i think i wonder what it's like to live in dunkirk maryland because it's now been i mean i know i guess the city of dunkirk was well-known to, you know, history enthusiasts. But then they made the Christopher Nolan film, right, Dunkirk?

Yeah, Christopher Nolan. That was a really, that was a very intense movie, but I really enjoyed it. I saw it in the theater, though. That's one that felt like it needed to be on the big screen for me. It was very, like, you know, it was very action-packed, but beautifully so from the perspective of airplanes and what have you.

Yeah, I think I watched it on a plane, so it had minimal emotional impact on me. It's a very low-key film with low stakes.

Certainly, yes, yes. There's also a book that I read last year, and it is driving me absolutely bananas that I can't think of it now. Was it by Jane Smiley? I'm not sure, but it's an incredibly – it's one of this – oh, you know what it's called? It's not Jane Smiley. It's called Sacred Hunger. And I think I told you I was reading this book, and I think I had this – no, that's Barry Unsworth. that's a different book anyway i was reading a book at the bar one time sorry i was reading whatever the sad book i'm thinking of right now very unsworth wrote sacred yeah and that's not that that's also an incredibly um that also covers some tough territory but that is a different book um it was the book that i read right before sacred hunger but i was sitting at big mario's pizza unsacred reading this book unsacred hunger and dirty hunger and a woman just a young woman who was sitting next to me we'd probably been sitting next to each other for probably like i don't know 45 minutes or something and then she's paying her bill and she's getting ready to go and she just turns to me and says we have not spoken this entire time she just turns to me and says i just need you to know that that book is going to break your heart that whoa is so painful at the end and i said thank you have a good day i am now going to go back to watching in fact the flintstones movie on the tv subtitle viva rock vegas viva rock vegas which i believe truly was on the vcr at big mario's that day um yes it's driving me at some point during the show i'm just gonna yell out a book title and that'll be it it's driving me bananas that i can't but that fred that was

pretty good that was my that was my impression of the guy that we like on the internet yes well bon some guy mark getting some guy mark getting extreme i tried to play that for becca at some point i was like oh this guy's this guy's so funny oh did a comedian write this and then for some reason that was the sketch I guess if you'd call it that or whatever the little video that I played for her which is just like Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble having a deeply serious conversation about the sort of ennui of life and she just was looking at it and she was trying to help me with this but eventually she was like oh okay and I was like no no no the other ones are more funny because on the other ones he has multiple glasses on

that is a tough one to begin with I don't know why I started there

it was so dumb

maybe I'll use that tape for tomorrow's show where he's talking about divorce but he keeps on using those Flintstones-esque puns I guess I'm between a rock and a hard place, Bon

that's the impression that I was doing you know who loves it? Jane Lowry in Alexandria, Virginia thanks, Jane

thank you

Don Tyler checking in from Seattle, Washington supporting the show today thank you, Don uh becky collier in mcminnville and this one threw me because i was you know now that i'm proximate to oregon when i see a mcminnville i'm like well it's oregon nope this is tennessee

and also i was going to say mcminninville which is very different but is there also a mcminnville oregon there is a mcminnville oregon and so it's unrelated no no you were right i just i get confused with that chain of venues and hotels and everything called mcminimins which sounds oh yes that's from a different branch of society you know i think that the mcminimins

empire is certainly a force for good i am not into the aesthetic it's very um what's the word what's the thing that i don't it's whimsical i don't like whimsy it's whimsy and especially

it also may tell me if i'm wrong about this but i feel like also sort of very cozy a very like maybe i have a limited experience in this i you know i ate at the one near your place in southern washington when we were down there for the Harbor Inn or whatever it's called

yeah and it mixes and that one in particular like mixes like traditional Pacific Northwest sensibilities with tiki bar sensibilities which is a strange combo it's definitely and I enjoyed it it was a comfortable place to be but all the places that I've been to that have been McMinimins have a real like sort of like very cozy come on in we're a real cozy and I don't think that that is your aesthetic

it is not my aesthetic so much but it's everywhere like McMinimins are so prevalent in portland and everybody goes there all the time again i'm happy that they exist um i think that they're you know it's a good spot to go to but i'm the food has never wowed me and it's kind of it's got a lot of yeah it's just got a lot of whimsy going on it's got a lot of like it feels boy why am i alienating the citizens of portland oregon even as i'm about to drive down to portland oregon to do live wire tonight with a bunch of people who love this stuff but like it's very portland to me like first of all i do like the idea that they they uh mostly exist in in spaces that were something else whether it's an old high school or whatever i think it's a really cool use of space funnily enough the one that's by me is a new build but that's really rare for them that might be the only new build they've ever whoa whoa whoa really so

when you go have you used the restroom that is off the the used it i've abused because somebody was in there before me and i'm trying to figure out real paint job who it was no it had um really really old school decor in the men's room and it had these really old um urinals right urinals but they they bought those and like like so that that is something that they created that is not

an old build no they built that building and in fact that building is kind of part of why i even live here because in um sort of mid maybe not mid pandemic but at some point in the pandemic I came down here to do a story about Mount St. Helens because it was the 40th anniversary of the eruption of Mount St. Helens, and I wanted to find somewhere fun to stay, and it was on CBS's dime, and Googling about, I found that place down there and stayed there and had a lovely time and was like, oh, Kalama, Washington, what is this? But yeah, my understanding is that they built that. That was not there before.

But probably grabbed those urinals and stuff from deconstructing buildings. They probably got a warehouse. Yeah, yeah.

Because they have so many places around Portland. And again, I'm a fan. Well, I do think they should do better with the access to the bathrooms at Edgefield.

Is Edgefield the place that we're talking about?

No, that's the Kalama Harbor Inn. Edgefield is actually an old work farm in Troutdale or something. They have a lot of shows there. I saw Big Thief there with Addie and Becca But they also have It's kind of a hotel But because it's a converted It was something else before, it was a work farm It's this thing where There are only a couple of rooms That have maybe their own bathroom

So it's like you just get a room

By the way, not cheap, it was like 350 bucks or something You get a room, but then you have to walk to the bathroom

Yes, I stayed in a McMinn-Mins in Beaverton That had the same deal and i am i was that's not that was a vibe yeah i was once i did it i was fine to get fully dressed but yeah but i suit to walk yeah and like genevieve told me he said we're gonna be staying in this place but just so you know like you do have to go it's an old boarding house or something so you go down the hall and take your you know take your toiletries with you and i was like are you kidding me because even as much as i'm set in my ways now i feel like back then even more so the idea of staying in anything other than like a days in or a holiday in or anything that doesn't smell like chlorine you know from what they wash the sheets in not whether or not they even have a pool like i just wanted like the most generic clean standard hotel experience as possible and i was like what do you mean i have to leave my bedroom to use the restroom or worse shower you picture me in a robe walking down the hallway amongst well that's the thing i think my problem with it was less with the

facility and more with it forced me to confront how uptight i am because everybody else was just completely fine with it people are walking around in their bathrobes as uh you know as uh like bright eyes fans are coming through i think we might have been there for the bright eyes show and i'm like how do you get this comfortable in your own skin that you're just wandering around this hotel in your bathrobe and it feels okay to you now that being said i do actually enjoy the experience of the bathroom i'm using not being one inch away from the person i might also be

trying to sex sure yes the you know the whole love love is going i'm kind of the burger king down the street i'm kind of arguing out of both sides of my

mouth on this because it is like my number one gripe with hotels currently is they nobody asked themselves is this going to be erotic when someone has to use this bathroom that is one inch from where this person that they're with is also trying to sleep or is lying down or whatever like they need to invest in proper doors and a white noise machine I don't care if there's a fan many hotels don't have a fan in the bathroom make a switch that just turns on what sounds like a very loud fan

yes absolutely I think the book I was thinking was Atonement by Ian Heughan which I thought it was a woman who wrote that book but yeah Atonement is the novel that has been but what have we been talking about because I've just been told my mouth make noises in response to Luke until your brain can figure out what damn book I was talking about

You were like me on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me when I was almost crapping my pants.

Exactly. Only I was crapping my brain trying to remember the name. I remember this woman turned to me and said, I'm just warning you that the book is going to destroy you. And I was like, well, it is called atonement. So somebody's going to be atoning for something. And at that point, I did not know what they would be atoning for.

That's like James McAvoy is in the film version. Oh, I did not know that they made a film.

You know, Luke, I'm more of a literary type.

You didn't know that they made a film called Atonement? I believe it won like a bajillion Oscars.

No, I honestly didn't. I feel like I should watch it.

You know who loves those kinds of flexes? Alison Walker of Essex Junction, Vermont.

Ugh, Alison. But can Alison watch it? I don't know if I'm ready to delve back into that sadness.

Did it in fact break you? Did you get to the end and it broke you?

It's incredibly sad. It is an incredibly sad and creative ending of that book. It's a beautiful book.

Okay. I might consider watching the film.

Yeah, I should, too. Do you want to watch it? Let's get ourselves a couple of boxes of tissues and just bawl our eyes out and watch that together.

Love it. I'll meet you at the Kalama River Inn for that.

It sounds good.

Thanks, donors. We really appreciate you. hello and welcome to top story uh this is a story that was sent to us by listener mike who was noting my frequent conversations about how i'm trying to drink a gallon of water a day and how that means i'm always real close to uh peeing my pants yesterday i had to run errands down in town andrew and i want to say well first of all i know where the bathroom at the safeway in longview washington is now never thought that would happen tell me everything about that bathroom

because grocery store bathrooms are a trip yes they are and this one was old school at least

the one they sent me to because you went through the whole situation the you know flappy kind of get into the behind the produce, behind the dairy.

Whoa, I haven't been to one of them since I was a kid. So you're like back where the workers are and they're all like, well, we know what this guy's got to do.

Mm-hmm. But I didn't. All I had to do was pee. And what I've also really started doing is saying like, can I use your bathroom real quick? Mm-hmm. To indicate to them that I'm not about to do a paint job. Yeah. And no one's timing me but I want them to know that it's going to be real quick. I want them to know that it's not a number two situation.

Have you ever been at dinner with, like, even if it's just you and your date, but even worse if let's just say it's you and another couple and there's four of you, and then you go to use the restroom and you realize, oh, this is going to take, and this is very rare for me, but those moments where you're like, oh, no, this is going to take a little bit longer than I want, and my presence, my lack of presence at the table will be noted. Even if it's not commented upon, it will be noted after a few minutes.

Do you, as I do in those situations, lie about what happened?

Interesting.

I don't think I comment on it. I would be like, there was a crazy line.

There was a crazy person.

Which is then, unfortunately, then when the other people use the restroom and realize there's like seven of them, there's no line. Right, right, right, right. They're like, that story doesn't hold up. But in the moment, it helps blunt my re-entry into the conversation.

Somebody was holding up the bathroom. He had a ski mask, and he had a gun, and he was waving around. He was yelling, Attica, Attica. We should call the police. No, no, no, don't call the police. They're not, like, people.

They don't, like, matter.

He's gone now. He's gone. He stole all the toilet paper, and he left.

Yeah, but don't look into it any further. Don't investigate it. That's my Tim Robinson impression. Anyway, so listener Mike noted that I've been drinking too much water and said, you're not the only one. It turns out, ludicrous. yes ludicrous the rapper is

obsessed with water and his whole thing is going around and drinking water well he drank water from a glacier i'm going to play you this audio he was apparently playing a show in alaska and then

went to a glacier listen man half the world's glaciers are here in alaska i couldn't come here and just have a show you know i got a bucket list so as i like to call it the list

see that's interesting one letter difference and yeah but it also rhymes it changes it

yeah radically to go from bucket list to the other one he's doing and uh okay here we go i've never

tasted fresh glacial water ever in my life and this is the first here we go

oh my god oh so that was ludicrous drinking from a glacier which according to people magazine was

was controversial wait what happens at the end was there like a lobster that pinched his nose

or it was just really good that was his reaction to how good the glacial okay water was okay uh according to a people magazine jack ervin writing uh uh in august the rapper sparked controversy after drinking fresh alaskan glacier water without purifying it first well i don't think it's controversy i think there were some you know reply guys that were probably like that could make you sick you get giardia or whatever i don't know if that's controversy i assumed that the controversy

was going to be something like you don't you're not supposed to drink the precious what you leave

only like we're losing these glaciers or whatever pretty fast and every every glass full that you drink ludicrous is speeding their demise right so uh this is now ludicrous is like i guess his brand is just being like water obsessed this is him at his house talking about how opening his refrigerator show all the water that he has consumed and will soon consume let me tell y'all

something y'all think this whole glacier water adventure is over it's never over let me tell

you what i've been doing and you remember when i called you and i was like it's over i was like are you sitting down you're like i'm actually volunteering at my pop-up for unhoused people

I was like skip it you were very insistent I gotta say you're like an important topic I was telling

you that this glacier water thing for ludicrous was over you and you insisted you're like I'm

right about this one I have a feeling I just know it's over and I kept saying to you I don't think it's over but I guess we'll let you that's not how I remember it I was calling you to tell you it's not over and you were saying oh you were saying it's over there's no way Luda that was you it's going back for more and I said no I'm telling you it's Luda he's never done he doesn't going for half measures is what i one of us thought it was over and one of us thought it

wasn't over and i think i was the one who wisely was aware that his thing was not over with the

glacier water since i left alaska okay trying to find every water around the world to compare i got volcanic water from hawaii from galapagos uh thermal water from interesting that there is

volcanic water from hawaii it seems like the last place you would find water what is volcanic water it's a thing ludicrous has in his refrigerator by the way what does this look like as he's

going through it are these just like are these clearly bottles that he has filled these are obviously not mass-produced products no they are mass-produced they are okay you know he has not

gone and harvested these these are a hundred percent gimmicky water that is allegedly from wherever and uh i mean probably from those places but like yeah yeah no these are these are pre-bottled He did not go and, like, get these from the volcano like a Joe. Okay. Versus.

Italy, we're talking about Australian Alps water, Canada iceberg water, Icelandic water, still Alaskan glacier water. I will not stop until I am the most hydrated motherfucker on Earth. It's not a game. You think it's a game? It's never a game.

Now, I will admit to this, Andrew. I did call you a different time and say I thought it was a game.

And I agreed with you. It sounds very much like a game. It also raises the question, which, I mean, obviously, I think the trap here is taking this too seriously, but it raises the question, does full hydration or more complete hydration come from drinking water from unique places around the world? Like, will he become the most hydrated MF-er on Earth by drinking exotic water as opposed to just drinking a lot of tap water?

Right. I think you have zeroed in on a flaw with the logic for Ludacris. What I love about this is that Ludacris is a real cornball. And I love it. Like he

He is in an era, Andrew, where there are a lot of people in his field who are not coming off great. I love the fact that he, again, you know, future revelations notwithstanding. I love the fact that he thinks he's blowing minds when instead of his bucket list, he calls it a fuck it list. That is like a thing that your uncle would say after four Coors Lights. Like, I think what we've learned is

I believe she was the very first I wouldn't say I dated her But she was the very, very first girl I kissed This was in college, as a freshman in college I was not a very early bloomer

You kissed someone that you were not You had not established a dating relationship with

Well, we were good friends And I think there was some flirtation going on But I'm never good at really kind of knowing When the moment is right But it turns out

I've had a crush on you for years

What makes the moment right is having your older cousin who goes to the same college get you a bottle of Southern Comfort.

I didn't know that, by the way, that you were a legacy at Kent State.

She was like a step-cousin who I didn't actually know all that well, but I liked her. She was cool. Oh, explicit. I was underage, but I remember saying, hey, can you get me some booze? And I was like, oh, I didn't drink beer at the time. I'm like, I don't really like beer. And she's like, okay, I'll get you. And I can't remember. She came back with two bottles, and one of them was a bottle of Southern Comfort. And this bottle of Southern Comfort is what led to my first kiss with this girl, whose name, by the way, don't be jealous, but her name was Rebecca, and she went by Becca. But where was I going with this? Oh, she would say, and I'm just going to say the whole word here. She, back in the, I guess, late 90s, she would say, I'm just going to throw that in my bucket bucket. Like, I am not going to care about that. I am just going to throw that in my bucket bucket.

Wow. First of all, I mean, a pretty good policy.

I guess so.

For not getting stressed.

Your girlfriend doesn't say that, right? It would be weird if it ended up being the same Becca. Did she go to Kent?

How did she feel about Southern Comfort? Love SoCo, by the way. Huge, huge. And kissing?

Should we kiss her?

Not with me. There's not enough SoCo in the world for that. I think SoCo was the first alcohol that, well, I think I had a sip of a Miller Lite. but then i think i might have had the tiniest bit of southern comfort at james demuth's house and then i remember we um were filling it like we would have a little bit of the southern comfort and then would put water in there so that the level seemed to be the same which the bottle oh yeah which like i can only imagine how how what a disappointment it was for james mom shirley and her boyfriend dick to get home from a hard day her at the university bookstore him at car toys on aurora and then like well it's time to have a little soco on the rocks and they're like

is this not hitting right you know you might have saved them from a life of alcoholism

um yeah yeah well or led them to it they're like i can drink so much southern comfort and feel

zero effects they ended up losing a southern comfort drinking competition

hey grandma could you give me a ride home from the soco drinking it's it's indifferent um the other thing about that and that's like kind of a classic like you know teenager move right which is you're having some alcohol from like your parents or your friend's parents and then you put water in it to try to bring it back to the level i mean first of all i think most parents would rather have their alcohol undiluted well they'd rather you didn't drink yes but then also if you're going to drink they would rather you didn't ruin their alcohol and also and third of

all i don't think they're tracking it that closely like well down to the micrometer and this is this is you and james demuth um but and micah his stepbrother i think that used to call having

sex waxing he'd be like i waxed her i was like god someday i'll wax yikes um but i don't think

you're supposed to do that with brown alcohol too i mean i guess if you got away with you got

away with it but like became ginger ale ginger ale colored over time she's like more of a vodka gin kind of move i mean yeah a hundred percent like this was this was a bad idea on so many levels but again i also think unless it's like some sort of you know eight hundred dollar bottle of something very special i think probably most adults if and again it wasn't like the bottle was full and we consumed half of the bottle it was like we were so in our heads about it it was like this is one half of an inch less of southern comfort and if they're going to come over the first thing to do is come home well the first thing they're going to do they're going to put on evening magazine with penny legate and

Ryan Tracy second thing you're gonna make a real nice fresh salsa I remember Shirley doing that I thought that was a pretty cool move while Evening Magazine was on a kitchen television like one of those tiny televisions that would sit on your kitchen counter it seemed like a very erudite life to me that whole things that were going on in the DeMuth household but um uh but then the third thing would be check the southern comfort make sure it's not one half of an inch lower yeah

Yeah, with the wax mark on the outside of the bottle to make sure. I mean, you would notice eventually, though, because that's the thing about Southern Comfort. I don't think adults drink it that much, right? I mean, I could be wrong. Maybe I haven't spent a lot of time in the South.

I haven't met a lot of adults who consume it. That's a true story.

You probably have like one bottle of it that's kind of getting dusty in the back of the cupboard or whatever. And then all of a sudden you pull it out one day and you realize, oh, over the course of the past, I don't know, two years. You realize you've got an alcoholic mouse.

Yeah.

That's the only explanation. It's Ralph on his little motorcycle.

The other story that I want to tell you about was this story from Qantas Airlines where they've apologized for... This is Kate Kristebek writing in the New York Times. Qantas Airlines, you and I have flown on, Andrew, has apologized for a recent flight from Sydney to Haneda Airport in Tokyo for playing an R-rated movie that showed on every screen. Now, there are a couple of dazzling deets to this, or at least confusing deets. They may not dazzle, but they do confuse. One is that the movie was apparently requested by multiple people flying, and the movie is Daddy-O starring Sean Penn and Dakota Johnson.

Have you heard of this?

I think they were doing press for it, so I became aware that there was a movie that Involved Dakota Johnson and Sean Penn. Okay, so this is the official statement from Qantas. They apologized, but then they also clarified that, let's see, they said that the movie, let me find it on here.

People were actually requesting Daddy's Home 2.

Yeah, somewhere in the, Qantas said in a statement, the crew chose the movie, quote, based on the request from a number of passengers? you're telling me multiple people got onto that flight to Japan and were like if you get a moment could you put on the film Daddy-O starring Sean Penn and Dakota Johnson like that's the part that's where Qantas' story really falls apart by the way the movie apparently has had some sex stuff going on also let's see here there was a funny specific line about a quote-unquote erect penis in the film that made me laugh when i saw it because that oh yeah uh let's see this is a review from the non-profit common sense media which prepares ratings of movies for families watching with children and said that this has a quote brief but clear photo of an erect penis graphic the again and oh by the way you also couldn't turn it off apparently this was the problem too like the movie was there was some problem with the av and so i guess absent the ability to sort of on demand your content they just decided to put something on for everyone to watch they were like you know what we're watching a video today class and the movie they selected was daddio and they say because multiple people came up and were like hey do you have the movie daddio maybe people were just

calling the pilot daddio as they were getting on the flight like hey what's up daddio and he's like another request he was a total zaddy he was another zad so listen i there is i i wanted to have a relatable conversation with you about what we watch on airplanes and i still think there's room for that conversation but it just occurred to me that i also want to play some tape for you here please um because when you i didn't know what the movie in question was that you were going to announce and um before you said it i had a flight of fancy in my head that it was a different movie a different movie that i feel bad doing this because essentially i'm going to try to do with you here something i did with genevieve on after these messages on tuesday and i gotta say it went over very well on after these messages and rolling the dice on this a second time is definitely questionable um but i will set this up and i will let you know that what we're talking about here will be slightly adult in just by its very nature i told you that i've had this project where i'm going through collecting vhs tapes at random garage sales and then bringing them home and digitizing them actually ran into a snag with that last night and my digitizing software seems to be crashing we'll work on that later i also mentioned to you that uh one of these tapes that i grabbed this summer said um and i grabbed a bunch of them from this one house and uh and it said green acres and it had like five and a half hours of green acres then some random stuff at the end, and then it slipped into the Spice 2 channel, which, as I've said before, I did not realize.

You finally found some porn, right?

Yes, I did not know that there was a Spice 2 channel. I thought that, I guess, they had Spice, and it was a 24-7 channel, but there was still more story to tell. So they started the Spice 2 channel, apparently, which is a completely adult content.

How will she pay for this pizza?

Exactly. Many unanswered questions on Spice 1. so anyway so i did not realize this until i was talking to genevieve about this experience on after these messages that i went back and i did not digitize all of the adult or really any of the adult content except i guess when i found this i thought it was so funny or interesting that i digitized the moment i'm watching regular like kind of television programming on this vhs tape and then it goes to static and then it goes into spice too if you can imagine this right so i'm sitting here it's probably late at night i'm digitizing a bunch of random content i've got two monitors set up i've been fast forwarding through like um green acres there's no commercials in there because they've edited them all out or they recorded the green acres off of a another tape or something but i'm just hoping to find they were paying for green acres premium exactly um and And then Green Acres ends, and then apparently there's a little clip of – do you remember Dick Clark had a bloopers show for a while?

Fallops, bleeps, and blunders.

So this is – and I didn't even know what it was. All I see is a man –

I believe Ed McMahon was on that as well.

Was he? Okay. Well, all I see is a man, a newscaster, and he's standing out in a storm somewhere, and he keeps on messing up his lines. And this is where – and again, just, you know, we will be talking about something adult here in a moment. But I just want you to experience the moment I realized this tape had more to offer than just bloopers and green acres.

Three, two, one. This is last. This is it. Three, two, one. If you got business to take care of tonight or tomorrow, you better check with the Pennsylvania State Police because they are patrolling the exits on and off of the 90. So better yet, if you have to go out, I would just take a hot cup. He's supposed to say Interstate 90. At Exit 10 on Route 90. Oops, he said Route 90. If you've got business to do today or tomorrow, you better check with the state police because they are patrolling the 90. Better yet, you should just stay at home and have a nice hot f***ing cup of chocolate. If you've got business to do today or tomorrow, the state patrol... I suck. I'm so cold, I can't think. 3, 2, 1. If you have business to take care of tonight or tomorrow morning, you better check with the Pennsylvania... idea for their annual calendar jim kelly and shauna mccullough polls for you in cheeks 10

but babes cheeks 10 but babes to which jenovine said by the way the images here are very explicit and then we get into some more promos for some more adult things but the fact that i'm just watching this all of a sudden it just goes from this blooper tape to cheeks 10 but babes is the

very first thing i was so invested on if the guy talking about the pennsylvania roadways finally

gets it together you forgot what we were doing there but like i did i was a hunt i was locked in on that content do you have to watch cheeks nine to understand what's going on in cheeks 10

but so the person and let's be honest we know it was a dude yes in fact the dude who was by the why I was wrong. Fallops, Bleeps and Blunders was a separate blooper show, not the one that Dick Clark hosted, which was with Ed McMahon. I was right about that part. Fallops, Bleeps and Blunders was a show that was hosted by Steve Lawrence and Don Rickles. Oh, I didn't

know about that. When you said it before, I was like, that doesn't sound quite right, but I just wanted to move forward. Yeah, because his was something about like in the 80s or 90s, it became like super bloopers or something, right? The Dick Clark one. Is that what it

was called uh it was i think called tvs bloopers and practical jokes that's what it was yes okay yes yes yes yes definitely but we know it was a dude and so this dude was i wonder how was it that it was that part of the tape where spice channel 2 cheeks 10 butt bongo party

what's it called first i'll get it right it's cheeks 10 butt babes um cheeks 10 butt babes

i wonder if was the original recording cheeks 10 butt babes and then the blooper show was recorded

over that or this is these are questions that we don't it seems that way although that would make the most sense but also keep in mind we're not this tape just to be very clear here because when you talk about this stuff you need to be very deliberate this tape was not careful this

this tape did not contain cheeks 10 but babes this tape contained a lot of programming from the spice 2 channel including this commercial you just heard or a promo for upcoming content the content itself i'm not sure exactly what it was it seemed like kind of reality-based pornography that was like pretty stomach turning to be honest with you and then they go to another commercial break and then they come back and it was a show um of it was a it was a it was a it was like an explicit pole dancing um like competition show so you never saw you actually never saw

cheeks 10 it was just a promo this was just a promo watching different which came there was

another promo here for a movie called more than a mouthful which was also coming up on more than a mouthful so the reason i thought of that was when you said that they played in uh an inappropriate movie on this airplane the first thing i thought was was it cheeks 10 butt babes because i feel

like there would probably be some tells there uh you mean uh cheeks 10 starring rod fontana i have not looked it up yet i meant to do that tell me tony martino earl slate jennifer uh lee jill kelly who i think is kind of a famous adult was a famous adult star that name seems to ring a bell and uh and others uh let's see was there let me look up cheeks nine that's what i want to I know, what are the other ones called?

And also, how did you find that? When I type this in, I'm getting like all kinds of...

Oh, believe me, this computer knows me.

It's a well-worn groove. It's like... Okay. It's a luge where everything runs right towards triple X's.

It's a self-licking ice cream cone, Andrew. It does not appear... What I cannot find is a Cheeks 9 Butt Babes.

Oh, that is such a bummer. Or a Cheeks 9... Oh, I found it on VHS. Is this what you found too? On Grindhouse Video? We could buy this for a mere $35. We could buy this right now.

I found it on, hold on, something called, let me try to get back to the, something that's called IAFD. I don't want to know. I think it's like the IMDb. Oh, I bet you it's the IMDb of this kind of stuff.

Okay. Yes. Anyway, can we get back? I know that I raised that.

Listen, I've said what I wanted to say about this Qantas Airlines situation. I find it hard to believe that multiple people went up and said, if you have the film Daddio, could you play that for everybody on the plane? I don't think Sean Penn would have asked for Daddio.

They're like, well, we were going to play Cheeks 10, but okay. So here's what I wanted to talk about, which is maybe slightly more appropriate. I think I'd also because this is something I've been wanting to kind of both tell you about and ask you about anyway on our recent trip to Philadelphia. And actually, I'm trying to think I might have started this even on my my longer trip out to Croatia. I knew that we're going to have some really long flights. And so I downloaded a bunch of content on my laptop. And one of the it's one of those things are so many like kind of premier television shows and mystery style shows, which are really good to watch on a plane because if you get hooked into a plot line like that, it just makes the time pass.

I don't even remember our flight to Australia because I was obsessed with the TV version of Get Shorty.

I gotta watch that. You said it was so good. It's so good.

Ray Romano, Chris O'Dowd. That flight, literally and figuratively, flew by for me because I was in exactly that kind of mode you're talking about.

Yeah, and so I was looking for stuff like that, and I'm curious if you've seen this. For literally a decade now, or almost a decade, People have been recommending that BBC show that stars Gillian Anderson, or is it Gillian? I always say it wrong. I think it's Gillian. I'm sorry. It's Gillian Anderson. No, you know what? I don't know. No, you're right. I'm quite sure you're right. I always get it wrong on the first attempt. I'm embarrassed by that.

I think it's Gillian Welch and Gillian Anderson. Is that true? And I don't know who's wrong in this, but I think that's what's messing us up.

Somehow I'm always wrong in it. But yeah, you're right. I think they do pronounce their names differently. All of that is to say, I'm curious if you've seen this show. It's one of those mystery shows that was very much lauded, but it involves kind of gruesome crimes and, you know, sexual crimes against women. It's called The Fall with Gillian Anderson. Does this ring a bell? Is this something that it is? No. Oh, God damn it. Did you and your is this one that fell into something?

No, I have not watched it with Walt.

OK, I think it would be a little uncomfortable watching it with Walt. But this was like it was the perfect programming for an airplane because it really made the time speed by. But like I don't watch a lot of stuff like that, especially the the the shows that really focus on like, well, like literally special victims unit and stuff like that focuses on like crime, like violent crimes against women where you see some, you know, you see cadavers and you see victims. And it's like the show is really kind of.

of beautifully made and so it's not as exploitative as some of these things could be but like I felt so weird I eventually I just shut off the laptop I was like I don't want to watch this team of people even though it was kind of beautifully shot in a weird dark way like I was I think I finally shut my laptop down when they were like examining the nude body of a victim you know in the morgue or whatever I'm just like looking over my shoulder I'm like I don't know what kids are behind me and and again it's not just like it's not just like nudity it's just kind of like this this this this implied in this case violence I was just like I first of all this isn't who I am and secondly even though the show is a really good version of this type of programming I felt so deeply uncomfortable watching it on the plane and so like I really this is a project maybe we could have my buddy Nick Jarn on the show he wants to um talk about he's obsessed with like kind of putting movies into categories and we had talked about movies to watch in bars with the sound down he wants to talk about movies to watch on airplanes maybe movies and tv shows like what are the what's the perfect combination of something that will make the time pass but you don't have to like constantly be like kind of fast forwarding through scenes because there might be people

behind you who don't want to see explicit content my version of that is just tiktok on the flight And if it's a, you know, a young woman doing something like particularly dancing or whatever, I, I've, ironically, I've seen TikToks where people are sitting behind someone on the plane and they're zooming in on the person's phone screen because the person is like having an affair or doing something. and like my biggest fear is that I will be the person in that in that moment where I'm just like a you know almost 50 year old dude but I'm watching some kind of you know I don't know some teenage girl dancing and then some person behind me is like this is what this guy's watching so even that I'm always like nexting it because I assume I'm the main character at all times in everyone's experience and I don't want anyone thinking that I'm being a creep but even worse if it's like a movie with nudity or I mean I'm surprised that they even can show you know movies on the plane that have nudity in them it seems like kind of a liability like as part of their you know like their kind of pre-packaged you know content I'm surprised that they offer movies where that happens I've seen it a couple times on some show or film that I'm watching that's part of like what you can order through the airplane and I'm like wow I mean this seems like a thing that would be a problem you know do you have somebody looking at this stuff next to somebody else who doesn't

want to be looking at this stuff yeah like i one of the movies that was available for us to watch on one of the flights i took recently was that movie um cheeks four but that was about maurice

cheeks the basketball player a documentary that's you very well done it was the guy that did hoop

dreams thank you um there's a movie called nice guys or the nice guys oh yeah yeah and it's like

That movie's really good.

It's pretty good. It starts really good. I think it really falls apart halfway through. It's like they got a new editor and a new writer halfway through. I don't know what happens in that movie, but at least that's my opinion on it. Kim, this is another name I never know how to pronounce it, Basinger or Basinger? Basinger? Kim?

We're having trouble with the Gs today.

We are having trouble with the Gs today, exactly. But she's a good actor. I do not understand why she is so bad in this movie. But but there I I don't want to poop on the whole thing because there's also some just like that's Russell Crowe and Gosling. I want to say Ryan Gosling. Yeah. And there are some just absolutely jostling laugh out loud moments. There are some amazing moments in this movie, but also some of it I feel like is a little throwaway. But that's kind of good for for an airplane trip. But I kind of did forget, like, oh, the big set piece in the movie, sort of the climax of the movie takes place at this like kind of part like this very sexually charged party with like a lot of topless people. walking around and swimming around as uh as mermaids or what have you and this was one that the plane was offering and i saw other people watching it too but even then i still felt like a little a little bit pervy but again this probably has to do i i i am especially prudish though i think both like because of my generation my advanced age and growing up in a pretty prudish family in a in a conservative part of the country like i think that this stuff i don't think most people in the world are seeing me watch a scene from the nice guys on an airplane and thinking

like what's up with that guy probably no but i'm with you and i think i'm i'm actually equally

prudish to you even though my not equally you don't think ah no i think you let it fly a little

bit more whatever that i think i i try to but i think at my core i'm kind of a prude probably because of my Christian upbringing. Because I'm also deeply uncomfortable if there's a moment of nudity on the- content that i'm watching on a plane i will absolutely freak out because i think some child is seeing me watch this and is then scarred for life well i definitely earned the explicit rating on today's show i also learned that maurice cheeks the basketball player was only 6'1 i thought the reason i wasn't maurice cheeks was because he was much taller than me but we're relatively the same height so i have no excuse for not being an nba hall of famer get out there Get after it I'm starting it right now Right after I do Live Wire tonight The Alberta Rose Theater I'm going to see if the YMCA is still open In Longview, Washington And I'm going to start doing drills And see if I can become the next Maurice Cheeks

Ten

There's a right way to rock And a wrong way to roll You can't just listen to your soul Just remember that life is number one you can be having so much fun just remember that life is much fun you can be nothing but one

all right just a flu the flu blurs days to do today um just a few of them here i did check the spam folder. I don't think I'm missing anything, which means we will be up to date on Blur's days after we... Well, there is a

birthday for mail enhancement.

I'm sorry, is that somebody's name, mail enhancement?

That's how it ended up in your spam folder.

Oh, oh, oh, the spam folder thing. Yes, yes, yes, that's right. No, let's see here. We're going to purge that away. Doesn't taint the next Blur's day. Christina in Mill Creek, Washington says, I want to wish my gorgeous, amazing husband Wayne a happy birthday. We had a hard October because, oh, this is sad. We had a hard October because we had to put our wonderful Gracie down. We had 12 amazing years with our dog, and we're going to miss her so much. We do miss her so much, it says. Wow. Happy birthday, babe. That is from Christina to Wayne. I'm sorry you guys are going through that, but happy birthday, Wayne. Yes. Kate in Minneapolis says, I'd like to wish myself a happy 31st Blursday. I keep resolving to meet some tens in person, and maybe this will be the year. Recently, I've been time-banditing old episodes to fill the TBTL-shaped hole in my heart on the weekends. I started at Luke's 2018 Boat Story. Oh, is that the one where you kind of swooped in and saved the day? Yeah, that was one where I had a totally uneventful boat voyage. Yeah, exactly. And I'm working my way forward. It's been a GD delight to hear my friendos back in 2018 in my timeline. You're about to have an event at Bauhaus here in the Twin Cities with Nora. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it went well. Happy Blur's Day, Kate. Hope you're having a good one. Speaking of me not knowing how to pronounce things, Luke, I ask you this every single time we get an email from Vernon in Tuelli. T-O-O-E-L-E Boy, I don't think I know how to say that. I feel like we've been instructed on this before, and I'm sorry if I've forgotten. How do you spell it? T-O-O-E-L-E T-O-O-E-L-E

Can you do it like Thomas Octopus Octopus Eggs Tooele

Tooele, Utah

The internet says Tooele

Tooele. Okay, can you get ready to fire that? Tooele. This is from Vernon in...

Tooele.

Utah, who says, Happy belated Blurs Day to our wonderful daughter, Allie, in Salt Lake City. See, that is a town I know how to pronounce. Salt Lake City. You are kind, beautiful, and the best cat mom anyone could wish for. We love you so much. Love, Mom and Dad. Happy birthday, Allie. Utah. And finally, Alicia says, sending a happy Blurs Day to my high school sweetheart, husband of 25 years. Oh, I'm glad. I thought that Alicia was dating somebody in high school. And I was like, maybe not appropriate. Alicia says, happy Blurs Day to my high school sweetheart, husband of 25 years and original TBTL 10. Dan, thank you for introducing me to TBTL and letting me keep all the merch. Love you. Happy birthday. Nice. Happy birthday.

The following pronunciation is brought to you by pronoun... Trying to find a pronouncer for Dan. Even the internet was like, nope. Nope. We're not going to do that. We're not doing that. I wanted it to be the same program that was telling me how to say the town in Utah and how to say the other thing, how to say the state of Utah. We all know how to say Dan We all know how to say Don

Happy birthday Don

Hey Don There's a thing that I've been sending to people Who have an association with Pennsylvania and particularly Pittsburgh It's this guy I'm trying to find because I sent it to my friend Elena Passarello because she's Went to school in Pittsburgh But it's basically like It's like a Pittsburgh It's a Pittsburgh guy trying to uh talk his girlfriend into something and uh this is the most classic yinzer accent you will ever hear in your life this is somebody pretending this is not like a you know secret recording hey you trying to come down the house i don't know donnie i don't know if i'm ready to come

down the house yeah come on deb let me let you die i'll take good care of you deb take you out on the time you mean it thorn you take me out on the time debbie i love you that's when two

share their hearts that's not as i mean it's a very well it is different in a lot of ways but i i'm hearing a little bit of crossover in my um my kin who are from west virginia well it's so

close to that part of pennsylvania too which i didn't realize until i went to pittsburgh once And I was like, why did I land in Ohio to get to Pennsylvania? You get over to Western PA, and it's pretty close to that part of the world. Indeed. All right. Thank you for listening, everyone. That's going to, I think, do it for today's show. But I have some incredible news. I met someone. She is difficult. I heard a news story about Squeaky Fromm the other day. all i could hear was she is difficult you won't believe who i'm dating all right we'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio in the meantime have a great thursday take care maybe we'll see some of you at live wire tonight we hope and in the meantime please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

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