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TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#4326 Cocaine Mirrors And Beer Dogs

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

October 30, 2024 | 01:24:41 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke and Andrew wax nostalgic about the water parks of their youth, from Turtle Beach to Wild Waves. They also pour an oily cup of coffee out for the Starbucks Oleato, a drink idea that never stood a chance.
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Transcript

00:00:00 - 00:00:04 | Speaker 2:

I need a little treat for the gang, something to win their affections back.

00:00:04 - 00:00:06 | Speaker 3:

Back? Why is that, Michael?

00:00:07 - 00:00:27 | Speaker 2:

Well, I ran down Meredith in my car. Oh, did you do this on purpose? No, I was being negligent. But she's in the hospital, she's fine, recovering nicely, tiny little crack in her pelvis, but she will be... Did this happen on company property? Yes. It was on company property with company property, so double jeopardy. We are fine.

00:00:27 - 00:00:31 | Speaker 4:

I don't think you understand. How Jeopardy works.

00:00:32 - 00:00:34 | Speaker 2:

Oh, right. I'm sorry. What is We're Fine?

00:00:37 - 00:00:48 | Speaker 5:

TBTL! Before we go any further, I need to know if there are any hidden recording devices in the room. I will find out if there are.

00:00:49 - 00:00:54 | Speaker 3:

I'm sure you would, but there's none, because that would be stupid of us, and we're not stupid. Silly move. It's a no.

00:00:54 - 00:01:07 | Speaker 5:

Well, that should take care of those two evil geniuses for a while. I hope that they've learned their lessons, that computers are built by people, for people, to help people, not to control us. Isn't that for techno geeks with spreadsheets?

00:01:07 - 00:01:13 | Speaker 1:

www.this and www.that. Let's www.explainit.

00:01:13 - 00:01:17 | Speaker 2:

I just might have tacos tonight. It's in material.

00:01:19 - 00:02:48 | Speaker 3:

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Wednesday edition of TBTL, a show that just might be too beautiful to live. It is our turn. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. The guy is a nut bar. A nut bar. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it's both very wet today and very cold, actually. Like, yes, like I wouldn't. It's not freezing cold, but it's it's cold out there. Did not. I was going to say it didn't dampen my enthusiasm. But it did actually dampen my enthusiasm for my 75-hard-ish run this morning. I still got out there and did it. I forgot to bring my Apple Watch with me, which I, at this point, know exactly how far I need to run to get to the distance that I'm trying to do. But I need that watch. I need that little attaboy. I need that little thing to let me know what sort of pace I'm doing and if I'm being a fast boy or not. I didn't have it today, and it literally almost made me not do the run, which would be very silly. Did it, and I am 100% ready now to bring that same level of tenacity to this episode of TBTL. Let the fun begin. Which is number 4,326 in a collector's series, and we've got Starbucks in the news.

00:02:48 - 00:02:51 | Speaker 5:

This song goes out to all the coffee lovers of the world.

00:02:51 - 00:03:41 | Speaker 3:

Starbucks has released its latest financials, and it's been not great for them. a lot of competition in the marketplace and also remember that idea that howard schultz had to put olive oil in the coffee i don't know what that means but it sounds disgusting it didn't go well and uh it's being eliminated we'll talk about that uh plus a jeopardy kerfuffle i'm sorry what is a jeopardy kerfuffle coming up and we're gonna talk to this guy longest running cobro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Coffee, tea, water, you know, Jim Beam. If it's wet, he'll drink it. It tastes like soot and hot water. I'm hooked. This is Andrew Walsh. You're joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

00:03:41 - 00:04:25 | Speaker 4:

Good morning, Luke. I realized I hit a specific personal stage of the election cycle this morning. Okay. Because here it is. Let's see. Today is Wednesday, right? Yep, yep. Usually we go to the polls on Tuesday, if I remember my civics class. I never had a civics class. Never mind. But so I guess we are just like, you know, six days away from the election. And I guess that is how many licks it takes to get to the inside of a Tootsie Pop of Andrew no longer engaging in national political news. This morning I woke up, but I went to do my usual thing, which is like take a shower and listen to the, you know, basically the morning edition short podcast up first.

00:04:25 - 00:04:31 | Speaker 3:

You're the demo for that. I've always wondered. It's very popular, so you're not alone, but it's just so not something that is appealing to me.

00:04:31 - 00:04:48 | Speaker 4:

Well, you wake up earlier, so I think you hear the real thing. By the time I'm sort of engaging with that, it would be like the last segment of morning edition, I think, and then rolling into whatever is going on at the 9 o'clock hour, which isn't really something I'm interested in usually here in our local market. So anyway, all of that is to say, that's my usual route.

00:04:48 - 00:04:49 | Speaker 3:

She hears that, Andrew.

00:04:50 - 00:04:57 | Speaker 4:

She is going to be devastated. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just tell it like it is, but then I avoid it and move on quickly.

00:04:57 - 00:05:03 | Speaker 3:

I just tell it like it is and then hide from whatever. was. And then I hide behind you. And then don't open a voicemail from Pete Gamble.

00:05:04 - 00:05:59 | Speaker 1:

Exactly. I think it was Brian Bucklew. All of that is to say this morning I did something I never ever do, which is I put on the Dan Levitard Show podcast in the morning. That is not a morning podcast for me. That is a your work is done, you're looking, or maybe I'll listen sometimes at lunchtime or something, but that is more of a puttering podcast for me, not a hey wake up, get at them kind of podcast. But today I was just like, you know what, there's nothing more, I mean, I scrolled through all the headlines, as I usually do. I don't think anything would totally catch me blindsided, but I just don't need to be digging, whether it's good, whether it's, you know, technically good news or bad news or however you'd want to define it from where I'm sitting politically, I just don't need to engage deeply with it anymore. It's just a big ball of anxiety for me. So let's listen to the Levitard show argue about Jaden Daniels. Actually, They wouldn't be arguing about him. What would they be arguing about? I guess the coach of the Bears.

00:05:59 - 00:06:04 | Speaker 3:

They'd be arguing about if Matt Eberflus should, in fact, be fired or not for allowing the play before the Hail Mary.

00:06:05 - 00:06:10 | Speaker 1:

Which I haven't gotten there yet. But anyway, I'm sure they'll be fighting about that later today or tomorrow when I'm taking my morning shower.

00:06:11 - 00:08:57 | Speaker 3:

You know, I think you're a little ahead of me on this because I spent this morning consuming the daily, talking about basically sort of Trump's event at Madison Square Garden. And then and then kind of like the, you know, how Harris is attempting to use the very racist or horrible things that were said there to, you know, move a few votes. And then I this was I listened to this while I was on my little jog. And then I listened to this profile of Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania. And I did have this feeling like I was like, I may be I may have foie gras myself, Andrew, political, you know, analysis like there is just. and and and the thing of it is is that they're all saying the same thing they are all saying the same thing this is it's effectively a tie it's too close to call it could go either way nobody is no nobody nobody reliable i mean certainly there are lots of people out there and in fact that was the weirdest thing it just started a few weeks ago and for a minute i took kind of comfort in it and then i went like wait what what are these people even know my tiktok sort of filling up with sort of self-styled polling experts and voting experts who are all just saying like this is going to be a blowout for Kamala Harris and like here's what I'm seeing in the and you know here's what I'm reading in the in the numbers and here's what they're not getting and I would look at the person that they'd have 200 followers and their name wasn't you know Nate Silver yeah right uh you know say what you want about Nate Silver and and Nate Cohn and the whole kind of polling industry but like no offense but probably somebody with no formal training and it would be unlikely it's like sliver and why am i following him like in the same way that i'm gonna trust tony fauci over somebody who's done their own research on the vaccine right i'm probably gonna trust the new york times polling people over somebody who just thinks they've cracked the code in their basement somewhere and again i say this without any criticism of basements i understand a lot of important stuff happens i actually don't really like that it's often used as a way to denigrate podcasting sure so i didn't mean it to be that way i just mean somebody you know but i want to believe it right it's because what they're all saying and this is what's so strange about that algorithm how did it identify me my my my profile picture is a picture of then minnesota viking quarterback kirk cousins doing some kind of biofeedback on his brain and my handle is Frigiator and I have zero posts. How did that figure out that what I'm desperate for emotionally are unqualified people telling me that this is going to be fine? How did it know that? Because it is kind of what I needed.

00:08:57 - 00:09:18 | Speaker 1:

I'm not in that realm at all because I'm not getting most of the stuff from social media except just a bunch of people who either agree with me or are left of me in Instagram stories that I can zip through pretty quickly. box is on fire do you think that that's where that's coming from well i don't i can't say with

00:09:18 - 00:09:39 | Speaker 3:

any certitude as anthony wiener once said i cannot say with any certitude if in fact that is a picture of my junk um i can't say with any certitude but i know that there was reporting in the new york times today that there was a free gaza was scrawled into one of the boxes i did not know that well i'll add this data point it's a they're looking for a volvo are they really they really

00:09:39 - 00:10:09 | Speaker 2:

are well as carlos danger once said let's just wait nice poll by the way i forgot about carlos danger very nice i can't think of the i can't think of the name of the woman who is in the a the famous amc um uh no michael kidman but carlos danger Carlos Danger is always – I can never remember Nicole Kidman's name, but Carlos Danger is always – I love it, honestly. That's what keeps the show interesting. Leap out of my mouth.

00:10:09 - 00:11:13 | Speaker 1:

Again, I don't want to be on the record as saying it was people that were maybe on the extreme political left. But here's what I will just say. When I heard about this, and if you don't know, there was a ballot box in Vancouver, Washington, that was lit on fire or incendiary-deviced in some way and one in Portland. and the thing was right when i heard that happened for whatever reason a still small voice inside of me didn't say this is maga and it's because i just don't think they know how to find a ballot box that involves that involves the internet that involves a lot of i just it for some reason it felt like it felt like a younger person again i have no evidence to support this i'm just telling you what my knee-jerk reaction was it felt like i don't believe this they're really a thing but if they were it felt like probably some aspiring antifa person move that's just how it struck me and i there hasn't been anything to dissuade me from that kind of knee-jerk um but again i don't i'm not saying that's what happened we don't i i can't prove that's what happened but so far the evidence hasn't made me think that isn't what they found a

00:11:13 - 00:11:28 | Speaker 2:

single birkenstock at the scene exactly that's kind of a dated that's kind of a dated reference for um uh yeah but i guess i said before that i didn't i scroll through the headlines i did not see the headline about the um the free gaza messages being scrawled on the ballot boxes i

00:11:28 - 00:12:15 | Speaker 1:

think it was a message again i don't was i don't want to and that maybe that could have been scrawled on there before no one noticed it that's why i want to be careful with sure i'm not trying to say that it's like open and shut but yeah um i did when when becca i texted becca i said it'll be interesting to see because they will i'm sure they will catch the person it'll be interesting to see this is right when the news came down i was like it'll be interesting to see what this person what we what their political ideology was if any right because i would argue that the people that like the guy that took a shot at trump and the guy that was in the woods at the golf course they don't have any coherent political ideology other than just probably struggling with mental health issues so i said to becca it'll be interesting to see what the political ideology is and then she texted me a while later they're looking for a volvo well that's gonna narrow it

00:12:15 - 00:12:47 | Speaker 2:

down asked and answered okay i'm gonna tell you something about i'm gonna tell you something about something that happened on after these messages the podcast last night i just want to be clear that everybody knows i'm talking about the podcast not the major motion picture um vives and i record on tuesday nights and of course this is our podcast all about tv commercials and last night the theme was i was actually kind of proud of this i actually think it was a pretty good show i listened back to like the first 15 minutes of it if you're looking for somebody to recommend the first 15 minutes of a podcast i'd say yesterday's show was started off good i don't

00:12:47 - 00:12:52 | Speaker 1:

know what happens after that you've got 15 minutes it's the it's the first 15 minutes for you if

00:12:52 - 00:14:44 | Speaker 2:

you've got three hours tuned back into tv turn tuned back into tv tale exactly but anyway um i wanted to do something kind of halloween-ish but i didn't want it to just to be like oh you know commercials with skeletons in it or what have you and so what i did was i came up with my top 10 list of brands that are that are scary that their names are scary um i don't want to give away too much here but i will say that and i'm this is by the way i'm taking this to a very weird and sort of dark place here accidentally but i will spoil the list somewhat by saying number nine on my list was black rock i thought that that is the financial institution black rock has a sort of a scary halloween-ish sort of sound and so my thing is i put together this list of top 10 scary sounding brands and um then found commercials to go along with it and then you know as a way of looking at tv commercials and so um i looked at various black rock commercials and they tended to be that seemed like their newest campaign um or one of their recent campaigns was like kind of following around various people living their normal lives but they're all people who are probably somewhat um working class and also like kind of giving back to the community one was like a firefighter one was a teacher one was i think a military vet and um i picked the teacher one i'm like this one's pretty good and it follows this teacher around and he's in his classroom and he's teaching kids and there's a voiceover and him just saying hey listen i'm a teacher i need to plan for my retirement black rock helps teachers do this blah blah blah blah and then do you know where i'm going with this by any chance did this little dazzling detail miss you as well i'm like yeah i'll pick this one and then i do a little bit more googling on it for some reason which i don't even remember and i realize and i fact checked this with reuters i trust reuters one of the students portrayed in this commercial just like kind of a quick shot

00:14:44 - 00:14:55 | Speaker 1:

you know in the classroom thomas crooks the guy who took the shot i i forgot that was a black rock thing but yes that was that's the guy that the guy that took a shot at trump in butler we should

00:14:55 - 00:15:00 | Speaker 2:

be clear it wasn't a black rock thing to take a shot at former president trump

00:15:00 - 00:15:04 | Speaker 1:

you're saying that you remembered that you had seen a headline that this kid was in a commercial

00:15:04 - 00:15:25 | Speaker 2:

in the aftermath of that event I remember some of the only images that they could locate of this person was oddly enough from this like commercial for BlackRock which or training video I guess I didn't realize it was a commercial I didn't know if it was a training listen I've tried to book a BlackRock commercial that's a tough get I don't know how Thomas Crook got in there but I just remember seeing

00:15:25 - 00:15:28 | Speaker 1:

he was unpaid according to Reuters you'll be happy to know

00:15:28 - 00:15:33 | Speaker 2:

Okay, because I saw him, I saw, you know, this brief moment of him, he's sitting in like a classroom environment, right?

00:15:33 - 00:15:37 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, the teacher's just teaching, and he's looking over his shoulder at the teacher, kind of interacting with the class.

00:15:37 - 00:15:39 | Speaker 2:

Oh, so he's playing one of the students.

00:15:39 - 00:15:59 | Speaker 1:

He is one of the students. My guess is that they probably truly followed this teacher around. This ad took place specifically in, I think, Pittsburgh or something. It took place in a classroom in Pennsylvania. So I don't think this kid was hired. I think that this teacher, they decided we're going to focus on this teacher, and they followed him around and you know got shots of the class and everything and one of the kids and doubt just

00:15:59 - 00:16:31 | Speaker 2:

total coincidence because yes yeah so that oh thank you for the explanation because i remember hearing about that about this person uh who tried to kill trump and then um seeing that clip but not knowing what the backstory was and just being like this guy like an actor like what like it just that seemed so odd to be in that black rock thing when you're also somebody who by all accounts was really in a you know dealing with a lot of mental health issues in the lake and kind of just in free fall but it sounds like it just happened to be that person's teacher who they were focusing on

00:16:31 - 00:16:39 | Speaker 1:

by coincidence yeah i think that that's my understanding of the story yep and that commercial i believe came out in 2022 so you know i'm guessing did you then end up skipping that

00:16:39 - 00:16:43 | Speaker 2:

commercial for after these messages so as to not get bogged down in that no i thought that was

00:16:43 - 00:17:08 | Speaker 1:

absolutely fascinating i played the commercial for vives and i was like you know pretty good commercial she's like yeah and we're we were like you know discuss because it is also kind of worth talking about it's kind of a good it's kind of a good pitch um and then i'm like but there's something that is going to blow your mind about i said blow your mind i'm going to blow your mind right now genevieve's leaving the studio uh no i mean i was just like yeah and then she was like what so yeah no i i found that to be fascinating a very strange um a very strange little quirk i

00:17:08 - 00:17:58 | Speaker 2:

guess you could say of history a glitch in the matrix maybe but um the thing about the let me just quickly get back to the ballot box thing because um and then we can move on i thought i saved you from that well no no i'm i'm done speculating on the political motives of the people but um i'm i'm personally a little i'm concerned about the fact that the the one in portland to me is i mean look if anybody votes and their vote is incinerated that's a bad outcome although weirdly enough did you hear about the fire suppression powder yeah inside that's crazy First of all, good thinking, although the one in Vancouver didn't work, which, you know, is a bummer. The one in Portland did work. It dispersed this powder because the temperature, the internal temperature went up too high, which, again, this is why I'm not in charge of any of this stuff. That would never even occur to me to put that in there.

00:17:59 - 00:18:15 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I mean, it's also – this isn't the first time this has happened, so it's a statement on, I guess, learning from the past. I think because I've heard of this. Didn't this happen two years ago or something? A ballot box was on fire. Maybe so. Yeah, I could be wrong about that.

00:18:15 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 2:

But the Vancouver one stresses me out because Vancouver is part of this congressional district that this sitting Congress person, Marie Glusenkamp Perez, is in. She's running against a guy named Joe Kent, who is, you know, arguably to the right of Trump, which is pretty hard to wrap your mind around. definitely very aligned with the sort of MAGA philosophy and Marie glusing camp Perez won this district last time around and it was seen as literally the biggest upset in of all of the congressional races she was put at having I think less than a 10 chance of winning because this is pretty red country out here where I am well the sort of the blue dot of that would be presumably Vancouver which is a city yeah just that those just tend to be much more blue so because I was i told you i was talking to the chair of the cowlitz county democrats a while ago and she was saying that like our job out here in the rurals is to just try to like have marie glues and camp perez lose by less just to try to keep that number a little down out here so that in the in the big cities like vancouver um you know those votes which will be presumably going more towards her will stand up so of course and i believe she won by like 150 votes last time it's like a shockingly low number of like small margin of victory um and so all i could think when they lit that thing on fire was please don't let that be the 150 votes that she did yeah right right you know like it actually could really be a serious deal out here and i again we shall see when they figure out who did this what they were thinking but uh i wonder if they had any sense of like if i wonder if they were in fact moving the needle in the wrong direction for even

00:19:59 - 00:20:29 | Unknown:

Thank you.

00:20:00 - 00:20:37 | Speaker 2:

their own beliefs you uh kind of mentioning in a glancing way there luke your your experience trying to get a yard sign and then sitting down with the was it the do you say the head of the yes county dems i got a note from a friend of mine who listens to the shows that said something we hadn't spoken in a while and she's like boy i went on a journey she's up in upstate new york she's like yeah i went on something of a quest to get a yard sign too and then now i'm part of my town's local democratic committee in the like everybody is just like trying to get yard signs for this particular race, when everyone's like, ah, yeah, but come on in. Come on in. The water's warm. Please join us. I actually found it. You're the new treasurer.

00:20:39 - 00:23:07 | Speaker 3:

You know, I think I talked more at length back when I, first of all, went to the wrong union hall and was confused a lot of kind of pretty, I don't know what a MAGA guy looks like, but pretty MAGA-looking dudes from the Longshoremen. And then I ended up at the correct union hall, which was the woodworkers union um uh and then talked to this uh this woman who's the chair of the dems and i again i talked about it at length back when that happened but i actually did find it to be so kind of interesting i learned more about like the town of longview washington and just the kind of scene in an hour of just sitting in this office chatting with this woman then like i found out about the history of the local newspaper and what it was like when it was thriving and like you know uh the local college and the the sort of capital projects they've been doing and also these like i mean this woman was in a very kind of um no nonsense way was a real kind of just like first of all a sort of institutional memory of the town and also kind of a booster for it kind of being like oh have you been to the columbia theater i was like no she goes and she's giving me all these interesting details because the thing about is That town that's called Longview, Washington, it was at a certain time a booming place because you had like just all kinds of logging and timber and pulp. Like there was a very, it was a, you know, it was a robust place. It was a boom town. And there are still some sort of, you know, like a lot of boom towns, it's, you know, the patina of that going away has kind of set in in a lot of places. But there's still these cool things like this really beautiful old theater that was built at the height of things that's just recently been refurbished and stuff. So it was, you know, I have a kind of an odd relationship with this little corner of the world because I like I live out here, but I'm in Portland a lot or I'm in other places a lot. And I feel politically very out of step with a lot of the locals. and so you know I'm not like raising a family here so I'm not really like I don't know I'm not engaged with it in a certain way that I would be if if like I had bought a house in a particular neighborhood of Portland I probably would have just started learning about that neighborhood and what's the history and you know so in in not really seeking that up and then all of a sudden just finding it out and and being like yeah this is there is some interesting stuff going on here there is you know are it's funny though because this is the number one way that a certain kind of person hypes up an area they say well you know that's an olmstead brothers project uh-huh right

00:23:07 - 00:23:12 | Speaker 1:

i feel like they're all olmstead brother projects i mean there were a lot of brothers

00:23:12 - 00:23:29 | Speaker 3:

got over on a certain kind of liberal but like she's like not every time she goes not every town has like an olmstead designed park because that's the the lake saccadilla thing that i go run um is apparently an olmstead there was something else the other day i was reading dead cousins project

00:23:29 - 00:23:32 | Speaker 2:

It's more like it's an Olmstead Second Cousins project.

00:23:32 - 00:24:05 | Speaker 3:

Right? Like, yeah, they really dominated the sort of, you know, the space on putting it. There was just something the other day that I was reading about a town somewhere. And again, they just dropped casually. Like, it's an Olmstead designed this. And it's like, that is a certain kind of, that's a dog whistle for a person who has four unread New Yorkers. Yeah. And might want to blow up a ballot box. They're not that far I promise you The person who blew up the ballot boxes Now you've gone too far, sir

00:24:05 - 00:24:15 | Speaker 2:

Sorry, I did, I regret that Hey, let's thank some donors

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These folks are Keeping TBTL happening Day in and day out Thanks to their voluntary Can't stress that enough, voluntary donation folks like heidi festin of brandywine maryland brandywine maryland very lyrical place there

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was a brandywine ohio i don't know if it was a i don't know if it was a town but it's certainly a ski place i know that in ohio if you went skiing you went to brandywine i wonder is that

00:24:48 - 00:24:56 | Speaker 3:

a reference to a drink is that what brandywine means is it a kind of a plant or a tree a couple

00:24:56 - 00:25:18 | Speaker 2:

of drinks maybe have you ever had a brandy wine no i mean that That's the thing. They're both separated out. They are both alcohol drinks. I don't know if I've heard about them being a drink together, but I feel like I've seen that word brandywine around. Who knows? Thanks to Heidi. Thanks to Kathleen Manley of Seattle, Washington. That's definitely a drink. We know that one.

00:25:18 - 00:25:24 | Speaker 1:

Yes, a Seattle. They call it the Seattle Rockets. They set it on fire before you drink it.

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They do. Nicholas Jeffries is in Lake Stevens, Washington, Home of Tom Thumb Market Where our good friend Camaro Kev Used to rent many a video Back in the day Lake Stevens

00:25:37 - 00:25:38 | Speaker 1:

I've been to Lake Stevens

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Dominic Arrico is in Federal Way, Washington

00:25:43 - 00:25:44 | Speaker 1:

Federal Way

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Not far from Wild Waves

00:25:46 - 00:25:51 | Speaker 1:

Oh is it that far south Is Wild Waves the place that you can see from the five

00:25:51 - 00:26:03 | Speaker 2:

Yes Enchanted Village and Wild Waves I think that's technically In Federal Way nice um at least that's what i was always told i like my waves i gotta be honest with you i got

00:26:03 - 00:26:09 | Speaker 1:

to a certain age and i don't like my waves as wild as i used to i like i still like waves but

00:26:09 - 00:26:13 | Speaker 2:

just like let's just keep them a little bit let's be let's call it what it is i don't think you ever

00:26:13 - 00:26:18 | Speaker 1:

liked your waves wild no but i liked them wilder i definitely like did you go to i know you were

00:26:18 - 00:26:27 | Speaker 2:

like a cedar point guy but did you um was there a water park equivalent and did you ever enjoy that or was that not your scene even in your youth?

00:26:27 - 00:27:21 | Speaker 1:

There were some water. I feel like I remember going to some water parks, but we would do that more if we were on vacation, I feel like. I don't think we went to water parks around Ohio, but there were water parks around Ohio. In fact, Cedar Point decided to create their own water park within the Cedar Point. Oh, smart. Soggy Point? They called us the Soggy Bottom Boys. And then there was another one. And so we had another amusement park called Geauga Lake. And this stands out in my head because of the TV commercials. They started a water park adjacent to them called Turtle Beach. And it was advertised with this animated turtle who was like, you would have loved them, Luke. It was right up your alley of things that you love, like a real kind of sassy, skateboard-y style kind of turtle. And he'd be like, Turtle Beach, dude. And then he'd give the kind of Hawaiian whatever.

00:27:21 - 00:27:22 | Speaker 2:

Turtle bunga.

00:27:22 - 00:27:28 | Speaker 1:

turtle we were not allowed to go anywhere near the turtle bunga there were and also later at the end

00:27:28 - 00:27:35 | Speaker 2:

they said but if you are feeling like splooch the turtle please do not enter any of our water

00:27:35 - 00:27:40 | Speaker 1:

features well that is where that is where the waves got very wild and so wild they just shut

00:27:40 - 00:27:59 | Speaker 2:

everything down in fact every time that wild waves comes up or water parks come up i tell this story but like at uh jesus creek for some reason we were i don't know why i say for some reason but Like, I remember that there was a trip to Wild Waves each year. It was like a class trip.

00:28:00 - 00:28:07 | Speaker 1:

That is interesting, though, because there's no, there's like zero educational value to that, right?

00:28:07 - 00:29:59 | Speaker 2:

No, it was just purely, it was purely just like, maybe it was a reward of some kind. I don't know, because in the fall, there was a trip to the Puyallup Fair. And in the late spring, there was a trip to Wild Waves. And both were a chance to maybe hold hands with someone. And I just remember being in the wave pool and just like having a crush on Tiffany McMacken that just wouldn't quit. And also you were seeing a lot of your classmates, particularly if you were me, your female classmates in like bathing suits, which was not, you know, we went to a conservative Christian school where the skirts had to be to the knee and we had to wear collared shirts. and then all of a sudden it's like everyone get in your skivvies and go sit in a pool together and you wonder why the pregnancy rate was high at that school eventually but i just also growing up kind of without a ton of money things like wild waves i to me it was like i don't know is it a hundred dollars to get in there is it a thousand dollars you know this was covered as part of the i think what it was was wild waves realized not a lot of people are coming here in like april or may because it hasn't really gotten warm yet so we're just gonna like throw the doors open to schools hell we'll we'll let them come in almost for free and hopefully they'll buy some corn dogs or something you know sure yeah one of the years i i guess i took my eye off the ball of trying to uh you know flirt with uh my uh my classmates and got really obsessed with winning this giant spuds mckenzie dog oh wow the midway not unlike the turtle beach turtle in attitude right a super party animal yeah and i so what it was was you know they had a little one of those game areas and again you had to pay for it and stuff but the deal was if you won let's just say like the low level prize of

00:30:00 - 00:30:27 | Speaker 1:

let's say like a stuffed monkey or something. If you got like two stuffed monkeys, you could trade that for like a slightly larger something. And then if you got a couple of those, you could kind of keep moving up. It was like you could, so it became this journey where I got, you know, the medium prize. I needed to get three medium prizes. And of course I was broke. So it was like, I'm going around panhandling from the other students to get enough money to do like another, throw this softball at these milk crates again or whatever.

00:30:27 - 00:30:30 | Speaker 2:

I got a system. I got a system. Just come on, Johnny.

00:30:30 - 00:30:41 | Speaker 1:

Seriously, I mean, I've said this before. It's just a kid casino, in a way, those midway games. It's like, here's a thing that the likelihood of success is very low, and here's a big prize you want to get. I mean, it's just gambling.

00:30:42 - 00:30:53 | Speaker 2:

Luke, I gave you that money because you said you needed to keep the heat on at home. Do not go throwing that ball at those glass bottles. Can you tell me that you're not going to go win that Spud's McKenzie with this money?

00:30:53 - 00:30:57 | Speaker 1:

I will tell you this, Andrew. I brought home that goddamn Spud's McKenzie.

00:30:57 - 00:30:58 | Speaker 2:

Where is it now?

00:30:58 - 00:31:40 | Speaker 1:

hopefully in the yucca mountain because that thing stunk like first of all it was almost as tall as me at the time it was it was enormous but it was like it was both enormous and it weighed nothing because it was stuffed with god knows what yeah and made out of god knows what and it was this thing that like i became obsessed with getting i just remember that day the whole day being this journey of me carrying around the amount of prizes I had and then trying to get someone to give me another $250 so I could then try to keep upgrading and then finally getting the Spuds McKenzie and just walking around like, you know, king of the castle.

00:31:40 - 00:31:52 | Speaker 2:

But are you trading these monkeys back in or whatever the stuff things are? You're trading them back in, so you probably can't leave the spot, right? Like, you can't go ride a roller coaster, then come back and give them the monkey.

00:31:52 - 00:32:01 | Speaker 1:

I never cared about the roller coasters at that place, Which is also probably some indication of me But no, I wasn't going back to the pool I was laser focused

00:32:01 - 00:32:05 | Speaker 2:

You're sitting at the table You're stacking up your monkeys I was locked in, Andrew

00:32:05 - 00:32:18 | Speaker 1:

And any classmate who made the mistake of wandering through the midway area Then became an easy mark for me to be like Can you see, look at this I've got eight Def Leppard mirrors

00:32:18 - 00:32:23 | Speaker 2:

Cocaine mirrors, by the way Help me trade these, please

00:32:23 - 00:32:25 | Speaker 1:

for one arm of a Spunson McKenzie.

00:32:26 - 00:32:33 | Speaker 2:

And what age were you when you realized that those mirrors we were getting at street fairs were cocaine? 48? Yeah.

00:32:33 - 00:32:37 | Speaker 1:

I think you just told me that. I don't think I ever thought about that.

00:32:37 - 00:33:00 | Speaker 2:

I mean, I could be wrong, but I had one of those mirrors at the Valley City Street Fair, and I'm pretty sure I had some sort of a car on mine. And the funny thing is I don't know what kind of car it was because I don't know anything about cars. I didn't care about cars then. I don't care about cars now. But I loved this mirror that had the car on it, And it had that classic cardboard frame. Did yours have a white cardboard frame with some sort of a yellow braid kind of going through it?

00:33:00 - 00:33:33 | Speaker 1:

I mean, it's the strangest prize to give a kid. If you think about it, the ones that I was the most familiar with would have heavy metal bands on them. Motley Crue or Def Leppard would be kind of on the mirror. Or maybe it was on the frame, printed on the frame. Probably that was it. So probably because the frame was paper and replaceable, right? So, like, you have this cheap piece of paper that's just going on this mirror, so you're, it's like, I'm getting something that seems Def Leppard branded, but the branding part is, you could switch it out the next year to, you know, Warrant or whoever it needs to be.

00:33:33 - 00:33:45 | Speaker 2:

Oh, I don't know about yours. Ours, the decoration was on the mirror. Maybe it was ours, too. And then the cardboard frame was just sort of a disposable thing, but I kept mine on there for protection so that it would be valuable, you know, someday. Yes. I wonder where that thing is.

00:33:45 - 00:34:31 | Speaker 1:

It's an heirloom that future generations will treasure. Honestly that would be kind of a funny thing If you still had it I remember this should have been Andrew I should have learned this lesson Way back when But I remember getting the Spuds McKenzie home And I had a little tiny bedroom in the basement It was a converted room I was the only sib who had their own room Because I was the only boy at this point So I had like four sisters upstairs In one room And then me downstairs I remember going into my room with this thing that I had wanted so badly and then I remember just putting the Spuds McKenzie in a corner and then just like sitting on my bed and just being like is that all there is? Like you know what I mean? Immediately realizing that.

00:34:31 - 00:34:33 | Speaker 2:

All the time on this show your coat hook moment

00:34:33 - 00:35:13 | Speaker 1:

and then. Yeah. And I mean it was the same then as it is now often for me which is like something that I set up as this goal this thing that when achieved will uh you know will make me feel a certain way but uh and then I just had that thing for like years I because it served no purpose it was just sitting in my room which again was a tiny room so it was taking up valuable real estate but I was like, I couldn't throw it out because, you know, I had worked so hard to get it. And, you know, I mean, America had moved on from Spuds McKenzie long past. Like, it's like having one of the what's up.

00:35:13 - 00:35:27 | Speaker 2:

And again, just a reminder for everybody, Spuds McKenzie was a sales, a marketing mascot for beer, for something that you're not supposed to drink until you're 21 years old. You know what I'm saying?

00:35:27 - 00:35:28 | Speaker 1:

That's a really good point.

00:35:28 - 00:35:31 | Speaker 2:

Giving away cocaine, mirrors, and Spud McKenzie.

00:35:32 - 00:35:44 | Speaker 1:

And beer dogs. Cocaine, mirrors, and beer dogs. Welcome to Enchanted Village. Welcome to West Jordan, Utah, which is where Becky Crandall lives. Becky's supporting the show. Thank you.

00:35:44 - 00:35:47 | Speaker 2:

So there isn't that kind of debauchery going on in West Jordan.

00:35:47 - 00:36:27 | Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't want to generalize. It doesn't sound like the place of cocaine, mirrors, and beer dogs. No. West Jordan. At least not historically. Who knows what goes on now? Who knows what Becky Crandall's life looks like. She leaves time for TBTL, though, and supports us. So thank you so much. And then look at this. Speaking of blasts from my past, it's my friend, my actual real-life friend, and sometimes professional collaborator, Caitlin Duffy in Seattle, Washington, a.k.a. Caitlin Dye. Caitlin was the producer on the first job I ever had in radio anywhere, including public radio, as the work-study student at KUOW. Caitlin was my supervisor.

00:36:27 - 00:36:33 | Speaker 2:

She was producing Weekday. Is she also the person that you would sometimes sling caps with?

00:36:33 - 00:37:18 | Speaker 1:

No, that was my friend Kathy Bowman. That's okay. The names are similar. Rest in peace, Kathy. But Caitlin was, I mean, the thing is, Caitlin is roughly my age. But you know when you're like 18, or maybe 19, the difference between 19 and 23 or something is just, it might as well be 20 years. because at 19 you have you have no life experience in the adult world and at 23 you're you've at least got your toe in the water you just kind of you know and i just remember watching caitlin produce weekday and just being like i cannot believe how unbelievably good at their job this person is and also what a badass and what a cool like i just it was it was i was like a baby chick

00:37:18 - 00:38:16 | Speaker 2:

it was imprinting on me i had sort of the opposite experience um somewhat recently in that uh i had a friend in college and she was like kind of a she was just kind of a a friend of a lot of people in my friend group and um we were in college and she was still in high school because she lived in the town and i don't know how we all knew each other but you know ever somehow we all we all knew each other and she was in our friend group but she was such a kid she just seemed like such a kid right because we were in college and she was an 18 and we were protected she was like maybe 17 or 18 and we were very protective of her and everything and then I saw her I don't know maybe a year or two ago and we got some coffee and we're catching up here in Seattle and uh you know I mentioned something about her being so much younger than me she's like I'm like two years younger than you like I'm you know I'm 43 you're 45 or like whatever like there's zero difference between being 43 and 45 but at the time it was just like we you know we're hanging out with this

00:38:16 - 00:40:12 | Speaker 1:

kid right because it's just like this that's one of those rare moments i think where where that like i guess i'm just repeating myself but it is kind of interesting to think about the fact that differences in age are are different at different times in our lives i'll put it this way like i am 48 and becca is 40 and that well that's just weird believe me like you know she's much more mature and with it than i am at age 40 uh even though i have eight years on her and also like that that just doesn't that doesn't come up as a real luckily also becca grew up with older brothers who are my age and so a lot of the pop culture and stuff that she was subjected to as the little sister in the music it's as if she was raised in my era even though she sort of wasn't but like 48 and 40 that doesn't seem crazy but you know eight and 16 and 10 yeah 18 and 10 does 24 and 16 does you know so 28 and 20 does like um but it's it's you know but i don't know 80 and 72 i mean that's the other thing is that my daughter and i are are heading towards the synchronicity of when like i'm 80 and she's 73 like that's not true i'm 80 and she's 63 let's let's do the math right but um you know like it's like it feels to me like the older you get the the the less that the age difference sort of applies or at least the less the less vivid it is but there is that point at like when you're when I'm 19 as a freshman or 18 as a freshman and then Caitlin Duffy my friend is like maybe 22 and in her work life already and i'm just starting out i'm just like excited that i get free food at the cafeteria at mcmahon hall like that's the widest three to four years that could probably ever exist

00:40:12 - 00:41:25 | Speaker 2:

between two people who are three to four years apart well this is a less um maybe fun way of looking at things but i was talking to a friend of mine who still works at a like kind of who works at a public radio station there's kind of a you know i think of myself as a public radio guy but it's been a really long time since i've set foot into an actual public radio station um to do you know like usual producer type of work but that's what you know that's that's what i cut my teeth on that's how i still sort of identify in a lot of ways but we were just sort of talking about the trials and tribulations of being a of a talk show producer or whatever working for a public radio station and he was telling me this story and i sort of realized that like assuming that i was still working at a public radio station myself which technically i'm not um it's like we're the old guys now i was sort of telling him about like when i was at new hampshire public radio and i was one literally the youngest person there or then one of the youngest people there i would look up to these people and be like man this guy's been around forever like he is the institution like he is just like you know like he's had every job here whatever and then i'm like you're the old guy now dude like you have been there forever and that was a little chilling i mean that's the thing

00:41:25 - 00:43:29 | Speaker 1:

that's that's can be kind of dangerous and maybe part of why I have tended to historically but not anymore Andrew lean into this like sort of prematurely declaring myself to be old is I think it's a protection against this other weird phenomenon which was for a long time I was sort of unusually young to be doing the stuff that I was doing and that's a very dangerous drug to get addicted to because it's you can't be that person forever and i was getting to you know i have a lot of privilege too as like a straight white guy there was a lot of people letting me into rooms and conversations and taking me seriously that i think unfortunately is not extended to everyone or has not historically been extended to everyone but like i definitely was kind of an ego boost to be like oh yeah i'm 23 and they're letting me fill in you know host on christmas eve what i've learn now is a lot of the stuff they were letting me do is because literally no one wanted to do it but i was on some level probably feeling kind of proud of myself and so when you know i think nate bargetsy the comedian has a joke about this how just like like it's the weirdest thing to wake up one day and be like i'm just older than everyone all of a sudden like you're you're kind of younger than everyone as i was and then people are like we're around the same age and then it's like you just look around like i'm the oldest person who works on livewire i think you know i mean maybe there's one other person i i think i might literally be the oldest employee of the show which is great that i'm the host that keeps me current you want your host to be the oldest most set in their ways you keep that's who should you keep quoting mad magazine for some reason that's the guy you really want to face of the project who's the oldest person that works here let's let's put him out front but like but anyway Nate Napargetsy has some he does it much more hilariously than I'm doing it here but like there is this very strange thing where time speeds up in this way where you just look around you go like oh shit everyone's actually younger than me all of a sudden yeah it feels like it happens at around in your mid-40s I think it starts to

00:43:29 - 00:44:36 | Speaker 2:

really set in like that yeah I I think maybe I I peaked probably a little bit earlier than you because maybe I didn't have as much runway. I think the term is gave up. But, you know, there was a time when I had those same feelings. Not that I was any kind of wunderkind, but, like, I definitely was somebody who wanted to be in public radio, was so enthusiastic about it, and threw myself into any responsibility you gave me to the degree that adults were trusting me very early doing kind of, you know, adult jobs at public radio stations and what have you. And that lasted with me, like, I sort of stayed, I believe, like, kind of ahead of the curve, probably into my kind of mid-20s or something. And I think maybe I was already in my early 30s when I was kind of like, oh, now I'm just meeting expectations. Like, I just remember having this feeling of, like, I always exceeded expectations. And I was always like, look at that young kid. Look at that young kid. Look at that go-getter. He's got a clipboard. The trick is you carry a clipboard. People take you seriously. I don't know if that's true anymore. But the only thing that makes you look older than hearing an iPad is a clipboard.

00:44:36 - 00:44:52 | Speaker 1:

Of a young producer that wants to make a splash in 2024. They show up at the station and they just have a clipboard. The other employees are like, is that medical? Do you need that for, is this an access issue? Like we've literally never even seen this.

00:44:53 - 00:45:03 | Speaker 2:

I have my, I can't dig it out of my drawer right now, but literally the clipboard that I carried around at several public radio stations is in. my drawer right next to me, covered in stickers from various places I live. I just love you and I

00:45:03 - 00:45:13 | Speaker 1:

just coming into a place to just really shake it up. It's like John Gruden trying to coach up an NFL team. Like, we just need to get back to smash mouth football.

00:45:13 - 00:45:20 | Speaker 2:

And every now and then you've got to smack the board down on the table a little bit to kind of get everybody's attention.

00:45:20 - 00:45:21 | Speaker 1:

It would be such a disaster.

00:45:22 - 00:45:28 | Speaker 2:

It would 100% not work. He's spending a lot of time in the HR office. Well, thank God

00:45:28 - 00:46:05 | Speaker 1:

We've got TBTL, Andrew. We've got our fine donors who let us do this for our job. Here we are. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. A quick thing I want to mention is that tomorrow is going to be kind of a special episode of the show. I'm so excited about this show. It is weird. And also, it's going to be a spooktacular. Yes, that was going to be too loud, so I just decided against it. Here's the point. we're doing a special show tomorrow it's going to be the tbtl Halloween spooktacular we've got a special guest can we say who the special guest is oh yeah I think we might

00:46:05 - 00:46:10 | Speaker 2:

have mentioned it on the show already maybe not Veeves will be sitting in I booked her guys she's coming in

00:46:10 - 00:46:22 | Speaker 1:

you did it you got the coveted has booking and Andrew you've actually been putting a lot of work into this into sort of collecting up some listener stories and things what all is going to be happening tomorrow so we asked

00:46:22 - 00:47:23 | Speaker 2:

folks to call in with spooky voicemails and I think i expanded it too to also talk about um people could talk about the costumes that they've had over the years but honestly we got a lot more spooky voicemails and emails than i thought we were going to get and so i uh spent the last couple of days kind of going through the voicemail line kind of sorting them all out and editing them and i i like i like what we're seeing we have a whole bunch of really good stories from folks i have one story that made me laugh out loud when it was when i was listening to it um and other ones that literally gave me chills So we'll have Genevieve here. Genevieve, by the way, is a very, very clever Halloween costume creator for herself. She always comes up with something kind of outside the box and funny. And she did something this year that was a bit of a pun. And I think I thought of having her on the show tomorrow because I wanted to tell you the other day on TBTL what Genevieve's costume was this year. But then it occurred to me, you know what? She should tell this story herself. So she'll be able to talk about that.

00:47:23 - 00:47:40 | Speaker 1:

So tune in for that. It's going to be fun. I'm going to be going as red-eye guy. This is the costume that is marked by having a neck pillow, having a turtle neck pillow still on, having pretty greasy hair and being generally bleary.

00:47:40 - 00:47:44 | Speaker 2:

Now, that's good because I'm going to go as pink-eye guy because I'm going to wild waves.

00:47:44 - 00:47:46 | Speaker 1:

Oh, you're going to get both kinds of eyes covered. I'm going to wild waves.

00:47:47 - 00:47:49 | Speaker 2:

All the different waves. Sorry, go ahead.

00:47:49 - 00:49:26 | Speaker 1:

yeah because i am uh once again uh going to try to see if i can um crack the code on both having a lot going on in my life but also needing to be in different places and needing to be available for our recordings and other things and i keep thinking maybe if i just shift most of my cross-country travel to the middle of the night that's just more hours in the day i've freed up i'm going to chicago for uh wait wait don't tell me um this will record it on thursday night it will air of course this weekend on stations around the country um oh speaking by the way of radio productions uh i just want to mention this very quickly we're doing live wire on saturday night at the alberta rose theater and sunday a matinee show at the reser in beaverton they're both part of the um the portland book festival please come see us uh tickets still available if you know what i mean we'd love to get some people out there um but uh i am taking this red eye andrew and hoping this isn't going to be as intense as the last time where i was trying to land and then change and then go to a tv shoot this is going to be land then go to the hotel then sleep for a couple of hours then wake up then do the show with you and vives can you handle it the stakes i think i can handle it i will see you know what's uh going to be exciting about wait wait is the not my job guest is a guy named brian jordan alvarez who's in this uh there's a new uh show i think it's called english teacher that's getting a lot of attention where he plays an english teacher but i think it's very funny show got a great review in the times but the reason of course i love brian jordan alvarez andrew is because he's this guy

00:49:26 - 00:49:53 | Speaker 2:

that's right the guy behind the sitting song is the not my job guest this week because you said this guy i mean we in tbtl land know him as the sitting guy but he did a whole bunch of stuff on tiktok right and now he's yes he's and they he did it i mean that's the ticky-tocky dreamy right like you you put yourself out there as a comedian on tiktok and then you land the big gig on tv

00:49:53 - 00:51:52 | Speaker 1:

Well that's what I guess we'll find out tomorrow night too Because like I think This is my guess about old brian jordan alvarez my guess is that he was living in la and you know you know working as an actor or trying to work as an actor who in his downtime was also doing these tick tocks that are so strange most of them like with these really weird filters on where he just does like a voice or a character that's just kind of a improv exercise in fact he who knows his background might be at like second city or improv olympic or one of those places but um but certainly it's a big part of his now it's i'm who knows if part of how they he's the star of this show this show called english teacher again i think that's what it's called who knows that if if they weren't partially thinking this guy's got a huge number of tiktok followers and if he's promoting the show on tiktok which he is constantly that could actually move some needles yeah no kidding and that's not a way of saying he's i think he's a very talented actually i really am a fan so i'm probably i'm i'm sure i will be the most excited person on the panel to talk to him because who else is on the sitting guy emmy blotnick and brian babylon gotcha and there will be some dressing up apparently although i was going to i was one that started this whole thing which was i was going to buy like a batman costume but like i really wanted to be the kind of adam west era batman that's just sort of like not particularly physically fit kind of campy batman i feel like first of all that's really the one i can pull off um and uh i went to order it and on amazon.com and they're all every costume you might try to buy on amazon is this and i'll give them credit on this much in big red letters it says this is going to be delivered after halloween i wonder what the impact on sales is for that is there anyone who's still ordering any of these costumes that are none of them will be delivered before halloween at this point were you even able to

00:51:52 - 00:51:57 | Speaker 2:

find one in the style though or were you only able to find like really intense like buff batman

00:51:57 - 00:52:43 | Speaker 1:

snuff film batman yeah but like you know uh yeah it's uh i oh who is it there's another comedian out there who um i think we've had on livewire and i can't um oh phooey it's gonna haunt me it'll come it'll come to me in a moment but there's another comedian out there who has a great riff about basically how like the batman stuff has just gone from being kind of like a kid's comic To a straight up snuff film Just like the darkness Of the Batman universe Which we all take for granted now And you think about how did this start It was just like for children to read In the 1950s or something Like hey there's a guy dressed like a bat And he's out there stopping the bad guys And now it's just like Like it's so dark now

00:52:43 - 00:52:56 | Speaker 2:

I will say though that I think it did happen In the comic books in the 80s Because like you know So, like, it was the Frank Miller stuff, but then also I can't remember who did Killing Joke. That's embarrassing that I can't remember the artist behind Killing Joke, but, like, those things.

00:52:56 - 00:53:00 | Speaker 1:

That's embarrassing that I didn't know that that was not just the name of a band.

00:53:01 - 00:53:57 | Speaker 2:

I think Killing Joke, and this I don't know for sure, but I assume that the band took the name. I'm sure they did. They're both 80s things, right? Let me see here. But anyway, it was called Batman the Killing Joke. It was a it was like a it was like kind of a a mini sort of a mini novel, I would say, kind of a mini graphic novel. And it is. Let's see, that came out in 88. So I'm guessing the band Killing Joe came out before 88. Right. So anyway, I don't know where the term came from originally, but that's an Alan Moore story. And my God, it gets dark. So, yeah, I mean, in a certain way, you can sort of say like you can sort of trace it all the way back to Tim Burton in 1989. because like I remember do you remember at the time people were like oh my god this Joker isn't funny he's so dark and now you look at Jack Nicholson's Joker and he's like so silly compared to like Heath Ledger not Keith Ledger Heath Ledger but I remembered his name so I'll take that as a win

00:53:57 - 00:56:24 | Speaker 1:

anyway that's all happening tomorrow what's happening today is that we are here to bid a fond farewell Andrew to the very short lived and we let's be honest we all knew it was kind of a bad idea the starbucks oleato drinks that will be eliminated from their menus in the u.s and canada it's already started in early november actually i guess it will be starting in early november we're not quite there yet um this is part of a new menu that is being installed by their new CEO Brian Nickel who I guess is kind of a sort of a rising star in the food CEO or whatever you want to call it space. He was in charge of Chipotle and supposedly did a really good job there so they hired him over to Starbucks and he is trying to trim down the menu. He did actually not he actually did not make the decision to take these oleato drinks off of the menu if you Thank you. remember they've been there for about a year after the former ceo howard schultz uh was like presumably in italy hanging out with an olive oil producer and that guy turned him on to the idea of having a teaspoon or some kind of a shot of olive oil every morning as a like a health thing so howard schultz started doing it and loved it so much that he then went to the starbucks creative team the drinks team and said uh i guess they're called the beverage team and said make me something that involves olive oil and coffee and you can just when we said at the time you could just imagine all of the people in that meeting immediately texting their significant others and just going you're not going to believe this shit and uh and they were right because these have not apparently sold very well it didn't help that you know people complained of it giving them the runs and things like that i thought it was interesting how this by the way this is jordan valenski writing in cnn i thought it was interesting the way that jordan described the effect of uh of these of this olive oil shot uh some people even complained that the drinks triggered painful stomach issues is that i mean i i guess i guess at its most basic that's what diarrhea is it is a painful stomach issue it's your stomach is in pain until you go to the bathroom But for some reason, that seemed like a weird way to describe it to me.

00:56:25 - 00:56:36 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's funny. They wanted to avoid that word. It is. Diarrhea is a very gross word, right? And it's a gross word because of what it describes. But also, just the word itself is just. Too many vowels.

00:56:36 - 00:56:40 | Speaker 1:

It's just. Too many R's. Too many vowels. An H that nobody needs.

00:56:40 - 00:56:45 | Speaker 2:

But in a certain way, that works out well, right? Like, why waste a pleasant word on such a nasty thing?

00:56:45 - 00:56:48 | Speaker 1:

Well, except maybe it would destigmatize it.

00:56:49 - 00:56:50 | Speaker 2:

Do we want to?

00:56:50 - 00:57:12 | Speaker 1:

I think talking about it, like not in a gross way, but in a – I'll tell you this. Me having an explosion in my pants as a child at the kingdom was 100% because of diarrhea shame. If it had been destigmatized, I would have just gotten up in the first inning and went and gone to the bathroom, which is like, of course, what I would do now as an adult.

00:57:12 - 00:57:27 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I see what you're saying. So not the act of – well, that's interesting. I thought is that is that you know stigmatizing is that why you didn't want to go to the bathroom is it just because stadium bathrooms are gross and you didn't want to sit on a seat and you

00:57:27 - 00:57:50 | Speaker 1:

thought you could hold it well I was embarrassed I mean part of it is yes the stadium bathrooms are gross but also at that age going number two in a stadium bathroom the whole experience would be embarrassing for me more than just gross and that embarrassment that shame around it around like oh my stomach doesn't feel well that's what caused me to push it past the limit i'd forgotten

00:57:50 - 00:58:14 | Speaker 2:

about that that's interesting that it was more of a shame of having to go number two and not just like i don't want because like i i don't this was at the the kingdom right this is the kingdom yeah so i obviously i'd never been there before but i've got some music for that too but i'll tell you i'll tell you you would not have wanted to go number two at like the um the you know cleveland municipal stadium in the 80s for sure it was no dream at the king

00:58:14 - 00:58:58 | Speaker 1:

go either uh i mean it was it was a bad situation anyway you slice it but it could have been less bad if i would have just you know and there are kids that do grow up that way there are kids i think i think you know in my family um for better or for worse it's just not a family where we really talk about number two stuff we don't pass gas in front of each other and that's you know extended into my adult life generally speaking around people and around you know people i'm in relationships with and stuff but like we just there are families where it's not stigmatized where it's like, oh, my tummy hurts. I need to go to the bathroom or whatever. I didn't grow up in that kind of family. Yeah, me too. Yeah, you're right. So it was like, I was just like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. Oh, go ahead. No, but I was just going to say, you were going to say about the coffee with the olive oil in it.

00:58:58 - 00:59:13 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know if I was. I was going to sort of change the topic, but staying on the focus of Starbucks, which I'm not sure this is the right idea to do, but have you been following any of this kind of Starbucks mandating people work from the office type of thing.

00:59:13 - 00:59:14 | Speaker 1:

I just saw the headline.

00:59:14 - 00:59:58 | Speaker 2:

This particular guy, and this is where I've been really chewing on this one. I think I'm going to have kind of an unpopular opinion amongst our listenership about work from home or work from the office mandates. I probably am out of line with most of our progressive listeners on this topic, but here's how I feel about it. As far as our city leaders, and this is something that they're actively doing, Trying to incentivize companies to force their people to come back to work because that is good for the city or that is good for the tax base or whatever, I think that's really backwards. I think cities are there to serve the people. People aren't there to serve the cities. That is like from a kind of a city policy standpoint, that's ridiculous.

01:00:00 - 01:01:05 | Speaker 1:

Anybody running a business, big or small, that person saying one of the requirements of being a part of this business is being here in person, I honestly feel like that is the decision of the people running that company. They might have their reasons, and maybe they're provable, and maybe they're not, but they say, hey, we're more productive when we're all here in person. That's their choice. And then if the marketplace, if there's enough businesses out there that are saying, you know what, I don't think we do need that, and we're going to have a company culture where everybody can work from home all the time, if that becomes more appealing to the workforce, I sort of feel like that may win out in the end. I know you can't really trust capitalism to just work out in the end. Obviously, there's plenty of power issues and the money that goes along with that. But in a certain way, I sort of feel like if a company wants to say, hey, we do better when you work in person and that's our mandate, I sort of feel like that's fine. That's a decision that they can make, especially because there are a lot of jobs. There are tons of jobs that you simply cannot do from home, right? So anyway, that's where I stand on this.

01:01:05 - 01:02:13 | Speaker 2:

I tend to agree with you on that. like you know and again i don't think either one of us are big like let the free market decide on these things generally speaking but i do think at a minimum i think it is i think it's acceptable for a company to set the terms of like if you have to go be there or not like that just seems like that is in there that is that is something that i feel like they should be allowed to do and then you know it is one of those things where it's like if you don't want to work there then you would go work somewhere else and again that presumes that there's other jobs that you can move to easily and i know there are questions around child care and you know working for you know how how the responsibilities of raising a family tends to fall on women disproportionately etc i understand that all to be the case but yeah at a very basic level i feel like it's okay for a company to say or at least it's it's it's not unreasonable for a company to say look this is what we're trying to do with this like also i don't think it's unreasonable for the company to say, we need you to work eight hours a day. You know, like there's just some very basic things about having a job that I feel like are in the in the companies. The company is allowed to say this is the you know, this is the rules of here. And then if you don't want to do that,

01:02:13 - 01:02:56 | Speaker 1:

you don't have to work. And, you know, not to get too personal about this, but there's exceptions to every rule. But generally speaking, the people who are complaining about these kinds of mandates and I also let's just point out the irony that I'm working from home as I as I say this, although i really truly don't think that i'd be somebody averse to going into an office place um i do sort of miss working amongst people but um i i would say that is a complaint that is a complaint amongst the people privileged enough to have those types of jobs you can't even go from home like i just think about like there aren't headlines that are kind of like employees at arby's are angry that they're forced to wear uniforms you know what i mean and like when you walk into an arby's Everybody's wearing an uncomfortable, like, scratchy uniform, right?

01:02:56 - 01:03:00 | Speaker 2:

Farm workers upset about not being able to work from home.

01:03:00 - 01:03:25 | Speaker 1:

Do you say farmers? Yeah, exactly. Farm workers. Farm workers. Yeah, I mean, there are just certain, and again, not that they're, whatever, there's all kinds of caveats that I can't cover my ass on everything. But I'm just saying that, like, it's a certain class of worker that this even sort of applies to. And, you know, there's arguments on both sides. But anyway, I just want to kind of lay out where I'm coming from on this. But I do think it's interesting that Starbucks, and this is why it's on my mind, because you mentioned his name. It's Nickel. Is that his name? I can't remember.

01:03:25 - 01:03:30 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, the new CEO, Brian Nickel. Oh, the fact that he's commuting from Laguna or something?

01:03:30 - 01:04:45 | Speaker 1:

He's the one who's setting in this, he's the one who is, you know, stating this mandate that you have to work, you have to work, you know, in person, which is fair, again, but he just got hired. He's new to the company. He's not moving to Seattle. He's, they built a special office for him or, you know, they bought a special office for him or something like nearby his home. So, like, technically, he's going into an office, but he's going into an office that he created in his neighborhood. I don't know if it was in his neighborhood or whatnot, but, like, you know what I mean? Clearly, he's carved out an exception for himself. And then that sort of, I think, irks me a little bit. And again, it's kind of like I grew up in a culture, again, kind of like looking up to the baby boomers who were running everything when I was entering the workforce. Not that that should be the standard, but like, yeah, bosses get special compensations. You know, that's the boss. The boss has an office with a bathroom off of it or something. That sounds pretty sweet while I'm working in the cubicle farm or if I'm out there working the drill press. Not everything is equal, but there is something about the fact that he's kind of like, no, no, no, if you don't want to work here, find another job somewhere else. It is critical that everybody work together and put their heads together. By the way, I'll be here in California in the special office that we built so I don't have to come up to Seattle.

01:04:46 - 01:05:33 | Speaker 2:

I mean, I agree with you. This sounds so – yeah, this sounds so kind of old school of me to say. But if you're the CEO, you get to negotiate probably a lot of things that are outside of the norm. and I guess the Starbucks board has decided this guy's we think the chance of success are so high for this guy that he gets uh you know this special treatment that being said if if he really wanted to and i don't know maybe starbucks isn't this kind of company but if he wanted to really like um set a good tone right away yeah like move i know it's not ideal but like you know what move to a different mansion that happens to be yeah like on queen anne i mean the thing for this guy is it's like and i know We've probably got kids in school and whatever, but they can find other stuck-up white kids just in Seattle instead of the ones in Laguna.

01:05:33 - 01:05:34 | Speaker 3:

Even go to the east side.

01:05:34 - 01:05:52 | Speaker 2:

There are plenty of rich white kids they can hang out with in different places. And it's like move to Seattle, get a spectacular house there, and then literally make it a thing where you go into your office five days a week except if you're traveling for work. That would, I think, immediately take the edge off of this whole thing.

01:05:52 - 01:07:35 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly. I'm just reading one line here from an article in Fortune magazine. It says Nichols' own work arrangement, which allows him to live in California and travel 1,000 miles to Seattle on the company's corporate jet, sparked backlash by some workers and outside critics. Starbucks has said that he will spend most of his time in Seattle or visiting stores. Several staffers said they didn't care where the CEO was based as long as he didn't crack down on in-office requirements. Well, then that's what happened. But you're right. Listen, they're free to make whatever decisions they want, and maybe he'll be a great leader. And again, the the the role of a CEO, just the very job description of a CEO is different than somebody who is further down the corporate chain. Right. Like and so like if you're if most of your job is flying around, I mean, this is just like such a powerful job. I can't even imagine what it's like to have that job. But you're traveling all the time. You're meeting. You're coming up with new ingredients like olive oil going around. Yeah, exactly. That's the other thing. To go back to the olive oil thing, though, it is such an old school thing, again, that it was sort of like, like Howard Schultz just had a pet project. Like, I think we've all it's I can't think of an example in my own life. But I know we've all had bosses right at some level, who somebody like they just get a notion, right? They get a hobby project, a hobby horse, somebody comes in and maybe like convinces them to try this thing. And just like, Oh, my God, the boss is obsessed with this thing. We got to do things this way. because he or she is obsessed with it. And it's just, I've never seen it happen in such like a public way and a power dynamic way. Like Howard Schultz, the head, and wait, hold on, founder of Starbucks? Was he there from the very beginning or not?

01:07:36 - 01:08:11 | Speaker 2:

He's the founder of Starbucks in the way that Elon Musk is the founder of Tesla. Howard Schultz was part of a group of people who were at the beginning days of Starbucks I think he was not employee number one or not the founder, but he kind of outmaneuvered the other two guys. I think he was like the marketing dude or something, and then he sort of like blocked them out or bought them out or did something and then basically got the company and is sort of seen as the founder of Starbucks. But I think the real story is, as it often is, a little more complicated. Good guy. To your point, and I, well, also.

01:08:11 - 01:08:13 | Speaker 3:

Union Buster also sold the Sonics.

01:08:13 - 01:09:05 | Speaker 2:

sold the sonics so that he could make the most money he could on it instead of selling it for maybe a little less to people like based in seattle but you just to your point about this being clearly just an example of like a somebody getting a wild hair but then having the actual power to enact the wild hair that's the thing everyone gets wild hairs most of us don't have the power to do it this was a quote at the time uh from a starbucks spokesperson it's one of the biggest launches we've had in decades said brady brewer starbucks former chief marketing officer by the way if your last name is brewer you are destined to work at starbucks that's an extremely said tom americano spokesman for starbucks anyway said said jennifer cake pop anyway uh

01:09:05 - 01:09:07 | Speaker 3:

Sous vide egg.

01:09:09 - 01:09:19 | Speaker 2:

Oh, you mean Michael Eggbite? Head of product development for Starbucks? I could do it. I could do it all morning, Andrew. All morning. But I won't, thankfully.

01:09:20 - 01:09:28 | Speaker 1:

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man. It's not from a female.

01:09:30 - 01:09:34 | Speaker 2:

Emails. V-mails. Yes. D-mails. Snail males.

01:09:34 - 01:09:57 | Speaker 3:

I don't have any D-mails. Yes. Oh, you know what? I heard this from several people. This was shocking to me as well. I've said probably a lot of wrong things that are going to anger a lot of the wrong people today. So I'll just keep this rolling. I had a thought last night. Try to anger the right people going forward, okay? That's all I ask. Sounds good. That's you and Genevieve, right? Yeah. I was having this thought last night.

01:09:57 - 01:09:59 | Speaker 2:

The people who are legally stuck with you.

01:09:59 - 01:11:07 | Speaker 3:

Yeah. What are you going to do? You guys own a house. We co-own a business. That's right. We're just too entangled at this point. This might be just totally, totally wrong. But as I was thinking about presenting this to you today, I had a thought that might be totally wrong and I didn't look it up. But I sort of feel like there is a – as people sort of try to define generations, which is always a bit of a sticky wicket anyway, I feel like there is a what I will call a fuzzy demarcation between my generation, which I consider myself Gen X, although I'm kind of right on the line there, and the millennial generation in your relationship to the TV show Full House. because Full House was definitely omnipresent as I was sort of growing up or coming of age, but I was not a viewer of it because it just seemed so terrible to me, just so absolutely terrible because I think I was just a little bit older and of a very sarcastic generation, whereas I think a lot of our listeners are millennials and they grew up with it and they know it clearly a lot better than us.

01:11:07 - 01:11:09 | Speaker 2:

Oh boy, were we wrong about the Olsen twins?

01:11:09 - 01:11:29 | Speaker 3:

I mean, it's kind of amazing. we went on and on about the Olsen twins and we were concerned about being wrong about this aspect or that aspect and it turns out we were wrong about something that I don't think either one of us saw coming. The house is not full? I saw several people chattering about this online. I'm going to give the mic to Emily here.

01:11:29 - 01:11:51 | Speaker 1:

Hey dummies, this is Emily from Minnesota just clarifying that it was no Olsen twins saying, how rude because that was a Stephanie catchphrase and Stephanie was played by Jodi Sweden. Also, yes, the Olsen twins played one character, although they did play with the fact that they had two actors and pulled an identical cousin nonsense at one point. Power out.

01:11:51 - 01:12:04 | Speaker 3:

I did not know that. I didn't realize that there were two older sisters than... Yeah, DJ, right? Was it DJ Tanner or one of them? That sounds right. That sounds right.

01:12:04 - 01:12:15 | Speaker 2:

Cameron Candace Bray, who won't act in the Hallmark movies anymore, because they had a gay plot line. Oh, right. To which I say. And then Jodie Sweetin, right?

01:12:15 - 01:12:19 | Speaker 3:

Jodie Sweetin is Stephanie. Jodie Sweetin is the how rude. Is how rude, yeah.

01:12:19 - 01:12:20 | Speaker 1:

So does... Rude.

01:12:22 - 01:12:30 | Speaker 3:

Now that you hear this knowledge, are you like, oh yeah, of course I knew that? Because to me, I was like, oh, I would have never. I would have never known that.

01:12:30 - 01:13:00 | Speaker 2:

No, I would have not known that either. I have always just assumed this was an Olsen twin saying this. although if you think about it let's see uh the cute one i am if you listen now as i listen to it the cute one let's see i don't want this to be too loud they do sound much younger yeah than how rude they sound you know they sound like a baby which they kind of work and you were never

01:13:00 - 01:13:47 | Speaker 3:

a fan of and i don't know why this i remember it was around the time of beastquake we were all hanging out in our Capitol Hill apartment, me and Viva's Capitol Hill apartment. And folks like you and Durs and other friends would come over and we would watch the Seahawks game. And then we would, by the end of the Seahawks game, some of us, some of you people would be a little bit tuned up on alcohol. And then we would try to keep the party rolling by putting weird things on TV. By the way, the TV back then, the TV that would, this is us, within our friendship, the TV that you would come over and watch Seahawks games on was a tube tv we watched the beast quake on a tube television right jammed into that tiny little room you put up with a lot man you must have thought we were real kidding me some of my

01:13:47 - 01:13:59 | Speaker 2:

greatest football specifically beast quake one of my definitely top 10 top five football moments happened in that little upper room i loved it amazing we created a beast quake for

01:13:59 - 01:14:19 | Speaker 3:

our landlord downstairs probably but i remember um dur's would like we'd be like okay well let's Were we putting stuff on YouTube or something? Did we have the YouTube tapped into the TV? I find that sort of hard to believe back then. But then he started playing a slowed down version of the Olsen Twins singing Give Me Pizza. And you hated that, right?

01:14:19 - 01:15:00 | Speaker 2:

It just gave me a bad feeling. I mean, it's like the part of a Tim and Eric Awesome sketch that I just kind of like check out on. To me, it strikes me more as performance art than comedy. But that's just because I think I'm a very down-the-middle kind of dude with a lot of the stuff that I engage in. You know what I mean? There's just a lot of art that just kind of goes right over my head, whether it comes to music. I've been watching this thing online now, which is like it's a Pitchfork magazine thing. And it's like they ask these bands, what's your perfect 10 record? So, like, what's an album someone else put out that you think is just perfection? And I have probably seen 20 of these now. and I haven't recognized one person.

01:15:00 - 01:15:16 | Speaker 4:

flipping album they're talking I don't even know maybe I know the person like the artist but it's just an album I didn't even know they'd made I just keep waiting for it to be someone I've heard of so I can feel kind of cool I don't I don't know what the hell they're talking about

01:15:16 - 01:15:20 | Speaker 5:

you're like oh I can handle this I know Krongbin and then you're like reading

01:15:20 - 01:15:22 | Speaker 4:

I'm waiting for a Krongbin reference

01:15:22 - 01:15:25 | Speaker 5:

and you can feel like an insider and it's like no that's pretty mainstream

01:15:25 - 01:16:17 | Speaker 4:

got nothing so all that is to say just because I didn't really and also I'm probably I'm imagining the moment of like I'm probably coming no I'm not I'm not coming down I'm not sobering up don't get me wrong yeah no but I probably my like peak alcohol consumption has peaked and the and the adrenaline of like the beast quake has probably started to ebb a little bit and now it's sort of like I mean I'm in the afterglow I'm stoked don't get me wrong but it's just kind of like also think about the time of year that's like I'm gonna be probably what uh january maybe daniel janual uh it's going to be like january so it's already dark right like it's it's four in the afternoon it's very dark out and you're starting to think okay we've got work tomorrow you know what i mean it's all of these feelings that we that we start to have at that time of a sunday and then durst puts on

01:16:17 - 01:16:59 | Speaker 5:

It's actually not a bad song And there's no reason for this at all This was an old video of the Olsen twins Singing a song about pizza Somewhat earnestly and very cutely I picked very earnestly And somebody took it and just said, you know what, this would be better at, like, quarter speed. And then that's how we ended up. There was nothing special that went along with it. It was just, you know, the visuals of it and just everything just cranked down by three quarters.

01:16:59 - 01:17:08 | Speaker 4:

I actually like that song more now that you're playing it than I remember having the sort of visceral reaction to. Let me just, let's cleanse the palate with a little OG gimme pizza.

01:17:08 - 01:17:36 | Speaker 3:

When super giant pizza, plain, nothing on it. And I'd like that delivered as soon as possible. Girls, your pizza's here. Thank you. Okay, guys, we've cleaned out the refrigerator. I think we're just about ready to build the perfect pizza. Give me pizza! P-I-G-Z-A!

01:17:36 - 01:17:43 | Speaker 2:

Give me pizza! P-I-G-Z-A! Now we're feeling kind of hungry. We got to make a munchie.

01:17:43 - 01:18:14 | Speaker 4:

every time i think you know maybe uh america is a good place actually i don't know if i can't localize this to america anytime i feel too good about humanity i just look at the people also searched for yeah give me pizza lyrics meaning first search first people also search for the meaning of the lyrics to the song give me pizza what do you honestly though you call that a palate

01:18:14 - 01:18:33 | Speaker 5:

cleanser and i'm not trying to be difficult but honestly hearing that that is too fast i honestly think that the give me pizza slow is actually a better job and screw it chopped and screwed this is better right like you can kind of get into that a little bit i am i'm you know me andrew i'm not a

01:18:33 - 01:18:55 | Speaker 4:

big um i'm not somebody who experiments in the psychedelic space extensively but if you ever run into me and for some reason i've decided that this is the night for me to explore psychedelics do not put that video on no probably not that feels that feels like a bad place for me to be if i'm already getting the fear if something's already getting on top of me i'm just curious

01:18:55 - 01:19:09 | Speaker 5:

here and again we're probably wrapping up the show so if you'll just so i have two drops here And they're both shorties, by the way. So one is called Pizza Get a Life. Do you know what this is going to be? Let's take a listen to this. It's only four seconds.

01:19:10 - 01:19:13 | Speaker 3:

Now, let's forget all this nastiness and have some wholesome, freshly delivered pizza.

01:19:14 - 01:19:26 | Speaker 5:

Okay, so that's just nice. That's Chris Elliott's mom on the show. And then what is Pizza Talk? Now, this is six seconds. I have no idea what this is from. And this is one of those things that makes me a little bit nervous to play.

01:19:26 - 01:19:32 | Speaker 1:

Now, I know you're eager to get out there and start slicing up and serving some pizza. But before we do that, we have some very important things to talk about.

01:19:33 - 01:19:35 | Speaker 5:

Do you recognize that voice? What's that from?

01:19:35 - 01:19:36 | Speaker 4:

Is that Tim Meadows?

01:19:36 - 01:19:46 | Speaker 5:

It's Tim Meadows. Thank you. I couldn't think of the name. I could totally picture him. I just couldn't think of his name. And I think that might be from an SNL sketch that makes fun of training videos. I mean, I guess that's all the context.

01:19:47 - 01:19:54 | Speaker 4:

Here's what I've got when we put pizza in. I think this was like a Domino's ad at some point. Sometimes you got to stop and smell the pizza.

01:19:54 - 01:19:59 | Speaker 5:

No, no, no. That's Pizza Hut, man. Famously, I used to crank Pizza Huts. I would call local Pizza Huts. and ask

01:20:00 - 01:20:41 | Speaker 3:

them to deliver pizzas to me so i could smell them and then send them back you would do this as a young i have a i have an audio tape somewhere i don't know if i still have it or not i was into the jerky boys and i went through a phase and i started recording um prank phone calls this was right at the beginning of star 69 so you could still sort of get away with it um and i have a uh i have and i'm trying to think i might have even had a somewhat like a voice changer too I hope I didn't use it on this one, but I called a local pizza hut and got a very charming young woman who was working there, who, by the way, was probably older than me at the time because I was in high school, and she was probably the ripe old age of 18 or something.

01:20:42 - 01:20:44 | Speaker 2:

As we've established, a big difference.

01:20:44 - 01:21:05 | Speaker 3:

I said, I was watching TV, and I saw your stop and smell the pizza. I'm really interested in that. Could I get one delivered so that I can smell it? And she said, you just want to smell the pizza. I'm like, yes, I just want you to bring one to me so I can stop and smell the pizza as advertised. And she was very – she said no that they can't provide that service, but she stuck with me on the line, I recall, and she was very, very game.

01:21:06 - 01:21:21 | Speaker 2:

Okay. I'm wondering if that's – because we just have Stop and Smell the Pizza. I just thought it was a silly thing to say. But did that end up on my radar because of this very topic, this very conversation? Because I do not remember that ad campaign, but you obviously – it made a real impression on you.

01:21:21 - 01:21:31 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know. I feel like you had that – I don't think that you pulled that drop because of my story. I have told you that story before It's okay that you don't remember it I tell a lot of boring stories I don't think that one's boring

01:21:31 - 01:21:32 | Speaker 2:

I want to hear the tape

01:21:32 - 01:21:38 | Speaker 3:

I know, that's the thing I do have a bag of tape somewhere I don't know if those pranks survived I think the listeners want to hear

01:21:38 - 01:21:47 | Speaker 2:

A high school age Andrew Walsh Pranking a pizza hut somewhere in Ohio I think that's a very good content for this show Super cringe

01:21:47 - 01:22:25 | Speaker 3:

I have a lot of When I even just think about that I think for some reason I had to wait Well, obviously I had to wait for my parents to leave So I was making crank phone calls. But for some reason, I had to do it on the on the phone in their bedroom. For some reason, it must have been. Oh, that must have been maybe where they had the the the answering machine or something. And maybe I would slip in like I have my own little micro cassette and put it in there and then I could record. That must have been how I recorded the conversations. But I know it had to be that phone. So I have these memories of like sort of sitting on the edge of their bed while they were gone. And this is in high school, by the way This is my dad and stepmom And I'm so embarrassed about this whole thing

01:22:25 - 01:22:28 | Speaker 2:

Oh, Andrew, this is good, clean fun

01:22:28 - 01:22:31 | Speaker 3:

The Jerky Boys were a powerful drug For kids my age

01:22:31 - 01:22:51 | Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, dude When I got my hands on the Jerky Boys tape I don't think I even had the tape I think my friend had the tape And then maybe I dubbed it But we would just We would cry laughing Listening to the Jerky Boys It was I'm guessing a lot of it doesn't really hold up

01:22:51 - 01:22:58 | Speaker 3:

I don't know Yeah, that's my guess too I'm sort of over here cringing Because I'm like, what else was on that tape? And then I keep on remembering And I'm like, oh, yikes

01:22:58 - 01:23:06 | Speaker 2:

Oh, Andrew, well, listen I don't want to re-traumatize you But if someday you're feeling brave And you want to pop that tape in

01:23:06 - 01:23:17 | Speaker 3:

I honestly don't know where it is It might be in my Whatever, I don't know exactly where it is It might be with my clipboard from my previous public radio jobs.

01:23:17 - 01:23:26 | Speaker 2:

All right. We're turning this public radio station around, starting with this clipboard and this Jerky Boys tape. Everyone, take it home. Memorize it.

01:23:27 - 01:23:30 | Speaker 3:

Memorize it. Forget it. Recite it.

01:23:33 - 01:24:01 | Speaker 2:

I'm really into this parallel dimension where you and I are whipping public radio stations into shape by way of the work of Jerky Boys. All right. So that's going to do it for the show today. But make sure you tune in for tomorrow's show. It's going to be the Halloween Spooktacular. I'll be in Chicago. We're going to have Genevieve here. We're going to have your contribution. It's going to be an amazing day. So please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Wednesday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:24:12 - 01:24:39 | Speaker 1:

Turtle Beach Beach fun. Tasty waves. Turtle Beach, a beach so rad. Rad kids come from everywhere. Everybody's having fun. Soaking in the soap. Totally liquid. Splash. Go soaked. Slip, fly. Totally soaked. Gnarled. Little Turtle Beach. Little. Little Turtle Beach, I can't. That's not a lake, kids. Power out.

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