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I love when people are like, you just need to give yourself some grace. Out of all the problems that I've had in my life, never once has not giving myself enough grace charted. Like it's never made the list, even a little bit, even at all. If anything, the polar antonym might be true. If anything, I might be hoarding grace in bulk. If anything, I might be causing accidentally, of course, a worldwide grace shortage, a grace deficit, if you will. Again, completely unintentionally, it's just kind of what happens. And I choose to view this as a good thing, because if I view it from any other sort of, you know, realistic viewpoint, it could be kind of construed as a negative. And that's not something I have to give myself grace in that sense as well and say, no, it's kind of like meta when you think about the giving myself grace of it all. I have maxed out my grace card. If anyone needs any, I will be selling it, of course, for a little bit of a profit because I'm nothing if not a businesswoman. So what am I saying?

They are sending shockwaves over the airwaves. They are rude and abusive, but want you to listen to them. I'm sorry, who are you?

I was asking myself that same question, and I did not like the answer.

He's just a silly little guy. He's like your next-door neighbor who, like, has an above-ground pool and drinks cheap beer and, like, tells fart jokes. And he, like, drives around in a used car and, like, goes to the rodeo.

This is ludicrous!

I hate not you. I hate not your show. And I gotta make a note to myself to not try and do my ab workout while y'all are doing your show, because I laugh too hard that I can't do my abs.

I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel happy of myself.

Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

It is political correctness run amok.

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Indeed, queen. Coming to you from foggy, but still a beautiful West Seattle, the corner of 36th and Raymond, where we've been Airbnb-ing it up as we've been spending an absolutely lovely weekend in Seattle. I may have had the perfect Sunday yesterday. I can't think of a Sunday that I've enjoyed more in a long, long time.

From my point of view, it's a beautiful story. I love your story.

We did the Seattle Half Marathon in the morning, and then the weather was great, and then we visited various Christmassy locales, and the Seahawks won, and it was just absolutely spectacular. Speaking of spectacular things, we've got a spectacular episode of TBTL coming your way right now. It's episode 4,349 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. I've got a new favorite professional athlete. He's a rookie for the Philadelphia 76ers.

You're like the coolest person I've ever met.

His name is Jared McCain. And I think he's starting an entire movement, which it looks like maybe there's two people involved in. So it's a nascent movement. He started an entire movement of pro athletes not being so hung up on, you know, traditional masculinity. And I'm loving it. Also, speaking of pro athletes, remember when our guy Russell Wilson tried to roll out this alter ego named Mr. Unlimited?

Unlimited.

He may be getting the last laugh on all of us.

And I have been laughing the whole time.

We have a couple of stories on this Monday that are not about sports. They are about people who do sports, but who are also doing things that are funny or interesting, okay? So you're going to need to allow it, dear listener, who I love so much. Speaking of people who I love so much, we got this guy helping out. He's the longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, and also just how sort of very demure he is. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. I'm sure you're curious whether or not I finally finished watching the TV show. Well, I'm sorry, the HBO program. I almost called it TV. That's so embarrassing. Oh, my God. We'll cut it out.

Oh, my God. Three, two, one. That's my impression of the HBO sound.

I did finish watching Penguin last night, the Penguin. I think I told you that I dipped my toes into those freaky.

The Sopranos.

Well, have you seen it?

No, what I've seen is a certain amount of discourse online that says it's The Sopranos, except starring The Penguin.

Yeah.

What do you think of that analysis?

I mean, it's hard not to make those comparisons, obviously. And I don't think that's lost on the creators. I was even thinking this may be a bridge too far in that comparison. But even like last night as we binged maybe the last four episodes, I was even thinking like, boy, even the title screen or the font and logo, big, you know, like the Sopranos, the Penguin, one word, big red letters on black, right? I think I have the Sopranos, right? There's no gun. There's no letter in the shape of a gun, thank goodness, in the Penguin font.

I mean, not to sidetrack the Penguin conversation, but obviously we love the Sopranos. You're talking about you were kind of rewatching that as well. But you're right. Not subtle. Not subtle with the branding.

No.

Well, here's the actually, you know, the intro song got myself a gun title card gun in the word Sopranos.

Well, here's the thing. Let's talk. Let's actually this is a more interesting conversation. The Sopranos, because it's important to have this conversation now in 2024, because if we don't, who will? You know, the intro package of The Sopranos has got to be one of the most iconic in, I'm going to say television here, although duly noted it's not television, it's HBO. Also, even that joke heralds from the late 90s. I don't think they've been using that phrase in a long, long time. But the thing is, the imagery along with that song that is now, again, iconic with that logo.

What they called, like, A3 or something?

the folks that do that song oh is that I'm not sure but I don't know if we've talked about this before like but people will say oh my god I love that song or I love that intro and it's like I love that intro because it matches the characters but I don't like that song and I don't like that title screen I actually do like of course the montage I think that's pretty good but the brilliance of it is not that it's a good song this is in my opinion by the way just to be very clear i'm not speaking objectively here in my opinion it's not a good song and it's not a good logo it's terrible but it's perfect because it matches the taste of the tasteless people in the show right like tony would love that christopher would love that nobody has a lisp i don't know i i was trying to do the accent and my and my natural lisp came out on christopher but christopher would um love that song but it's not a it's not a song that i like in fact i dislike it

yeah i i think it's interesting because you attribute it to you say it's within the sensibilities of the the kind of day class a characters on the show but i would say it was chosen by the day class a creators of the show you know like like it's david chase's idea of a badass tune by the way they're called alabama three and they are a british band and it came off of their 1997 album exile in cold harbor lane and i'm i'm totally with you like i love that song in the context of the sopranos opening credits because it tells my brain i'm about to watch the sopranos and i love that experience but if you just played me that song and again i'm doing the lyrics kind of from memory here but it's like woke up this morning got myself a gun or something it's

just like there's something about gabagool i believe as well hey where is that by the way i've

been looking for that like i'm sorry did anybody write a song like woke up this morning was in the mafia and then i went and ate some lunch also in the mafia it's just like it's so on the nose that i agree with you it's sort of terrible but it's the kind of literalism that only christian

rock could truly appreciate like i remember being pretty young and like not even disliking the idea of christian music and i don't mean like worship music i mean like christian rock or christian rap but being like yeah but like not every song that is outside of the tent of quote-unquote christian music is about one thing and that i remember being young and being like yeah but why is it all about one thing can't you just be christian and also sing about i don't know a nice dinner that you had although i don't recommend that that sounds like a terrible song but yeah i remember

just thinking like why is it all so literal you know andrew i grew up listening to christian like popular christian music contemporary christian music we called it and i don't know if i've ever actually taken a moment to consider that question which is a really good one like also you could just be singing about a thing in your life and you happen to be named michael w smith or you happen to be in the band petra like right or you happen to be dc talk decent christian talk. I think they moved between rap and then eventually kind of like indie sounding music. They were really riding the currents of popular music.

like they started out as a real blazing a path my friend i mean depending on your perspective

my guess is kind of in the downstream as the sewage leaked out of the barge that was chugging along in the river they were kind of back there like a porpoise swimming in it and absorbing it um but maybe not maybe they were they were maybe they were doing it before the beastie boys but like they started out my memory is dc talk originally was like one of the two things either they started out being like christian rappers and then they got real into kind of like indie style but like kind of again not dissimilar from how beastie boys were like you know you got to fight for your right to party and then eventually they're doing sabotage and stuff which is a little bit of a different vibe although i guess you could say they're kind of rapping and sabotage too it's just maybe over what a slightly different backing track kind of sound like was there a point where the beastie boys and i listen i probably already alienated enough listeners a few weeks ago when i kind of went hard on the the beastie boys just saying that it wasn't really for me they did at some point did they ever really leave like rap music or were they just rapping with more melodic stuff happening do you know the weirdest thing about

that question is and i am pretty sure i i have my timeline right on this i'm pretty sure that before they broke big with license to ill which is that old school i know that you're not a huge fan but that real old school kind of more um you know 1980s era rap i'm pretty sure that before they broke big with that they were a punk band because i would totally believe that later on like those early tapes were released i could be wrong maybe somebody told me that those were but i'm pretty sure that later on once they were big they're like oh now listen to our early punk stuff that was re-released and then i you know i don't know would you later cattle you would still call like ill communication like a hip-hop you would file that under hip-hop if you have a record

yeah even if like you know the you know their you know their record that i was really big on because Addie loved it, was the one where they're all in the... Check Your Head? No, the one where they're in the sardine can. Oh. Intergalactic movie?

I'm sorry, that came out in 1996. That's new Beastie Boys to me. Well, exactly. I honestly only know the first four records.

I got in kind of late on it, but Addie loved that record because of... And I've talked about this on the show before, and people who have young kids will relate to this. any album that just randomly had what sounded like a kid on it because i wasn't like a very what's the word good father who would like tolerate raffi or whatever the whatever the yo gabba gabba of its time was i was like no no we're just listening to whatever daddy wants to listen to and you're gonna have to find maybe one second where it sounds like something that's actually aimed at children is occurring and on intergalactic at the end of one song i think it might have been a kid maybe one of the kids of one of the beastie boys says like i don't like your attitude boy and like that became addy's favorite record because there was one second that actually was appealed to her the other one was rosie thomas the indie singer rosie thomas who has an incredibly beautiful singing voice but her speaking voice is very childlike and sometimes in on this one particular record of hers that we had interstitially like as she was coming out of a song going into song she'd be speaking in her speaking voice and it sounded like there was a kid on the record so that was addy's other favorite i'm only now realizing what a what a real desert of music it was for this kid just waiting for something that sounded like anything age

appropriate for her i love the idea of you being like listen i'm a bad dad i'm not gonna change my musical taste for my kid the kid will like what i like and you're just like that's just the way it is i love you in many many ways and i'm here for you but this is the way it is and then you slide a CD into your dashboard and the wiggle starts playing and Daddy Likes the Wiggles

what a great that's like almost I think you should leave sketch, it needs to get more unhinged from there

your daughter is slipping you Beastie Boys CDs you're like Daddy Likes the Wiggles right which is maybe a show title, I did want to come back to Sopranos for a second, so this comparison between the Penguin and the Sopranos I think it would be I think it's pretty clear that in a certain way they are paying a bit of an homage to The Sopranos, I think, or certainly inspired by. I think you'd be a fool to not make that comparison. But I guess what I would say is if you're going – the reason I somewhat shy away from that comparison is because you can't say, boy, if you liked The Sopranos, you're going to love The Penguin. Like The Sopranos, even in its broadest – and I would say like there were some seasons and some episodes that I thought were kind of clunky. I think they're, you know, Johnny comes to mind. Oh, gosh. Yeah, right. Of course. Yeah. And a lot of the kids stuff about Meadow going to college and, you know, like the generational tension there. Like some. thing with aj yeah and some of that is with that some of that is kids acting some of it is just storyline some of it is probably accurate like sometimes kids are not that likable when they're in at that age you know and they're and they're very spoiled kids so sometimes when you don't like those scenes or those kids in those scenes there's again a reason for it because you're not supposed to like them i think um having said that the sopranos is a level of of creativity and creation that i think is i mean if you compare anything to it it's going to be really hard to live up to that as far as complex narrative and and and you know and more like character development i think that's the most important to me and like the the penguin is a comic you know it's based on a comic book and you never by the way spoiler alert like the batman never you is never even a reference that was one thing that vives and i thought were was a little bit interesting that like while you're looking at this very seedy literal underground crime world now i i understand they didn't want it to be corny or by maybe invoking the the caped crusader but like nobody ever even says like yeah but should we watch out for you know who you know like you know who is never even really mentioned so I don't I don't know maybe yeah so and I believe he exists because this is like part of the the world that was created with the last Batman movie which I never saw I watched like the first half of it all of that is to say I do think it's worth watching if You like this kind of stuff. It's very, very dark. It's very, very grim at times. It's not, you know, the stuff that holds you up is like the set pieces. Like it's tropey. There are definitely tropes in there, and tropes can really make me cringe if they're not done well. And there are definitely like some speeches or some soliloquies that may be like, would a kid that age be that self-possessed? But it's kind of like, yeah, but that is, I can't explain it. I think it's well done because they've created a universe in which you go along with that. It's a comic book, and the most important thing is Kristen Milioti, I just want to get that in there, steals the show. Like, without her, I don't make it past episode two. With her, I would follow that show anywhere.

She is so good in it. She plays a character that I didn't know from the comic books, a very tertiary character from the comic books who only showed up in a couple of storylines. But she just, her character named Sophia is just amazing. She just steals the show every time without chewing scenery.

mean that's what i wanted to say i i have actually been really intrigued by this because is it um colin farrell right is plays uh the penguin and i love him i really really love that dude like for a million reasons um but him in all those prosthetics is kind of intriguing to me i think he's a really good actor also by the way um uh kristin miliotti i don't know if you remember but she first rocketed to fame in my heart when she was on 30 rock and she played this Uber Ditz who Lemon is constantly trying to tell her you don't have to use your sexuality and your baby voice.

And do you remember the twist on that? Spoiler alert. Wasn't she super smart? Yeah, she was super, super smart. She was doing that to protect herself from, I think it was dark, like a past of abuse or something. Yeah, from the Penguin. I think she was doing it because she was in an abusive relationship or something. It got kind of very dark, but she turned out to be incredibly smart. But you're right, that was her who was like, do you guys think that i can reach that on the top shelf but um no i i also do like those

worlds that get created for a show where and my guess is that the the set design and it's just like the feel of the show is probably very very comprehensive if that makes sense like yeah and i love that kind of stuff so i've definitely been thinking about watching it um and uh and i just might maybe when i get a little a little downtime around the holidays i'll i'll celebrate the um the virgin birth by watching colin farrell in 80 pounds of prosthetics well then i'm glad that is

why i got a little bit specific about the the sopranos comparison because i would worry that you would hear that you'd be like this is going to be as good as the sopranos it's not as good as the sopranos and it's also just different in in some ways but you will also see a lot of comparisons but yeah and also her like uh miliati is just so freaking amazing i seriously i'm just

like i just want to see her in everything now also i'm still paying for hbo uh or max or whatever the hell we oh that's actually that's a better newer one good um i i you know so i feel like i need to watch i need to watch a certain amount of whatever the heck's on max whether i like it or not because i'm paying it's like it's like i'm in a csa of content and they just keep dropping off a crate of persimmons yeah i'm like all right what goes with persimmons what's i'm paying for

this shit what's the hbo equivalent of eggplant or what hey what do people not want in their farmer's box eggplant i don't like eggplant very much oh i think i would feel like this is hard to

separate out my specific taste i would be great with eggplant i feel like the joke is always sort of like turnips or something. thing that like really like kind of propagates really quickly but is a little underwhelming to work with you know like that's what seems to fill up the csa boxes or back in the day when a lot of people were doing that of that kind of stuff um i uh i have to say andrew once again fubo tv oh yeah just coming through in the clutch much like leonard big cat williams yesterday you probably didn't watch the game or actually maybe you did because it was earlier than your pop-up right what was did you experience the nfl football yesterday well yeah well that's

where that's where my lifestyle and my volunteering and my football uh um i was gonna say love although that's too strong of a word these days like maybe clash because yes i was like oh good the game's on before pop-up so i can watch the whole thing while i'm making like you know i make coffee and hot chocolate in the morning kind of putter around i make it for pop-up and i can watch the whole game But then I end up sleeping until, like, 10.45 or 11. I miss the entire first half of the game.

Which was actually not much of a game for the Seahawks. It was disastrous. But I have to say, it fit into, I mentioned at the top of the show, what for me was, I think, maybe the most ideal Sunday that can exist. Which was, you know, Beck and I are here in the greater Seattle area. We were doing the Seattle half marathon yesterday. so got up kind of like crazy early to do that went down to the seattle center and the weather was so spectacular like i was borderline emotional kind of maybe three four miles into the run because you're just running along i-5 like you run through the express lanes which are all closed down and then you end up underneath um the ship canal bridge so you know the part of i-5 where you're going you know that part what is known as a ship canal bridge well you're underneath that you're in the what are the express lanes but just the sun was rising and it was like dappling off of like you know queen anne and like the and and lake union and it was just like it could not the weather could not have been more spectacular so that was a really great start to the day and then we finish up and then grab our stuff and and get a bunch of free like uh you know energy drink shit and whatever a cup of noodles and all the things that like you pay like a I don't know how much it is, some crazy amount of money, $150 to go run in this race. And then you try to recoup it by just getting free samples at the expo afterwards. So we get all that stuff, and then we jump in the lift, and we come back here to the Airbnb. And guess what's starting? The Seattle Seahawks game. And in the Airbnb, they don't have, like, a regular TV that's, like, connected to anything. But guess what I do? I get the Fubo on my phone. I cast it right on up to that TV. I'm watching the Seahawks, Andrew. I could not have done that if I had my stupid Xfinity still.

Yeah, Fubo. And, you know, when we were talking about kind of cord cutting or whatever, I just shied away from Fubo because it seemed like I had everything I needed except for Mariners games, like, you know, free and legal and clear Mariners games. And I was like, I don't want to add $88 to my monthly bills just for the Mariners. But honestly, like for as much as you use TV and you want you want all the modern conveniences of streaming with all of the kind of older traditions of television. Like, honestly, I feel like I'm writing a Fubo commercial right now. Why have they not hired me? Why am I not in the in the writing room for their next ad campaign?

I mean, I feel like we are doing an unpaid ad here. But like, for instance, so Friday night, the Huskies, well, maybe it was Saturday. I think it's Saturday. The Huskies are playing Oregon. i know that they're gonna get absolutely smoked which they did but my level of interest is like i kind of want to see a little bit of it and so becca and i are getting ready to go out and get some dinner um i've kind of and it's just like it's on my phone and i'm watching it and then they start getting trounced and i just turn it off and we go to the restaurant and have dinner like i there this idea that i can watch any pretty much any game that i'm interested in on my phone if i want to it it just gives me the right amount of giving a shit about it now yesterday during i think i moved over into giving too much of a shit about it because it was such a weird crazy game where they just played so badly but then they sort of had a chance and then the jets just kept playing somehow worse at the end i took up residence outside of the airbnb to watch critical plays because that had brought us luck at some point um and i just want to say i feel like i am now the only person on our text chain maybe other than durs again because i can't see what durs is saying i feel like i'm the only person on our text chain anymore talking and

like for instance no no durs was talking and chirping the entire time like my phone was just like burp burp burp and it's all just this is so funny because it's like negative like oh here we go here no no you know what can we do a dramatic reenacting right now you're gonna

to enjoy this this is what you missed okay and here's the deal i have been a defender of dur's negativity on the text chain going back years now i honestly believe for a while that a little bit of negativity brings some good luck i believe that you know you have sometimes you have to put yourself out there as the most negative person so that um you can reverse bad reverse and the like like i'm a big believer in all of that here's the deal i don't think dur's will hear this but i would say this to his face if he did is um but also like when you're just constantly negative when something good happens how about well that was nice or just how about a like how about any commentary about anything good happening but it's only oh terrible okay so here we go sunday 10 35 a.m by the way swears coming up okay earmuffs what a fucking nightmare i don't know how much time passes 10 minutes wow what a performance jesus christ holy shit a complete implosion and then uh another person jumped in fucking losers that

was the first thing i saw yeah the first thing i saw on the chain was just and by the way in my mind kamarokhov gets to deploy that because he you know a he doesn't comment that much and b his comments are varied so that's my feeling is that like if sometimes you're really frustrated i don't personally have a problem with airing those grievances yeah um it's it's it's if it's

if it's a sort of a one note kind of deal yeah and kevin later said i wonder if it's rogers's birthday tomorrow which was a joke that i got not even listening to the first half i knew that the that was a joke about probably the commentators talking way too much about it rogers literally never shutting up yeah and i'm sure because that's always you know whenever he's on the field it always takes all the other air out of the room luckily these days it's because he's kind of pathetic out there but anyway and then you I'm not going to go over the recap of the whole game but I do want to so you jumped in about like well sometimes these things turn around and then it did turn around and you're like I don't even know

but I want to can I just if I can take a moment please to center myself in this conversation the reason also by the way this weird world is now evolved on this text chain which is like two deaf men yelling into the void missing each other with their comments i guess actually that doesn't that analogy doesn't work because ders is seeing my comments but i'm like sometimes he and i are the only people commenting and i have no idea he's even on there or if he's saying anything and i'm just like throwing my stuff out there but this was wild yesterday like i said this to becca like after the seahawks committed like their second kickoff return fumble and had allowed a kick return touchdown for the other team like all of these just like wildly improbable things were happening and I turned to Becca and I said this really sucks but usually this stuff evens out like weird crazy plays like this you it tends to kind of even out and we've now used up all of our bad luck on these plays I know that's not science but that's just how I feel having watched a lot of football I I type that into the text chain and as I'm hitting send Leonard Williams a guy who weighs roughly 700 pounds and not an ounce of fat on him does the most improbable thing which is like as a defensive lineman he tips a ball up into the air to himself and then runs it 92 yards like a crazy play that like you would never see coming i could not believe and i i think the other thing i was about to send was i could see rogers throwing a pick six i and again this is just coincidence and luck but it was i was flipping out here and i was like telling becca like look at this i texted this before he did that like i really needed someone to honor the fact that i so weirdly predicted that of course i always predict that so it's going to be true sometimes i mean that's really i'm just i'm just playing the long game but like i was so i could not believe that right after i said that a thing that was fluky and benefited has happened it was a very

fluky game too it seemed like even from just like what i what i heard about that that first that first half but i i want to go back to this for a second and again i know i'm being very i'm really you know i'm not even being um sort of gentle or kind about this but again this is the text chain that you miss i just think it's informative for you to know what you miss all of those texts i just read in a row i wasn't cherry picking i wasn't omitting the texts in between It is mostly just a conversation with Durs. Here's another one. Again, no interactions from other people in between these. You're just making coffee in your kitchen, stirring up some hot chocolate. Everything smells really good. Why is it so hard for the Seahawks franchise to execute a screen pass? Pete couldn't make it happen either. By the way, quick insert from Andrew here. Agreed. It is very strange. I think once in all of my years of watching Seahawks, they...

have done a successful screen pass and they tried a lot or at least it seems like they used to anyway yeah flags to wipe out a huge play yes of course truly humiliating five chances and that's what he draws up grub gotta go these by the way are all different ways that my love making has been described grub gotta go grub gotta go yeah seahawks going backwards in the red zone you don't say lol Charbonnet they did it again I don't even know what that one was that wasn't a good thing though that sounds like it could have been didn't Charbonnet get it didn't he rush in he did he finally broke I don't think that was I don't unless I'm in unless I'm slandering here I don't think that was a good I think that was that was a sarcastic lol Charbonnet but never a like hey we pulled it off you know what I mean I mean I guess later he did say just speaking because the Vikings beat the Cardinals which was important so he did say great results today thank you for being the cards but like anyway I don't I totally do not mind people airing out their grievances or frustration as you're kind of watching a game and sort of dying inside and feeling a lot of frustration and also just thinking you know and I this isn't really fair to the sports but also we just have a lot going on in the world and I think that folks like us who see the world the way we see it also feel a little bit bad for watching this sport where tj watt gets a commercial where no no i'm sorry who's the retired watt he's like you know jj watt is like you know selling trucks and talking about how he used to knock people down but now he realizes it's better to build people up and i'm like you don't believe that you maga son of a gun like is he do we know

that he's no no i'd be shocked if he wasn't i don't know that at all this is i this is completely

just an assumption on my part that you know i'd love it if somebody said oh look no he's he's he's a he's a great guy actually he was out there knocking on doors for kamala harris like okay let me know but i doubt it but anyway like i think that we're also coming into this like feeling like a little bit like yeah like just like with our own and then tying it to sports and feeling like we're always losing and i think that's just like a mentality that is probably not the most healthy but i i understand it is my point but i just think if you're gonna throw that stuff out there every now and then just be like well guess i got some egg on my face or just something funny just something that isn't just like i hate everything it's just like it's a grumpy smurf well what's

because what i feel like has happened now is i've i've gone from being kind of absent from this text chain because i've been you know it's the kind of thing where when i'm like doing live wire because it's a thursday night game or something is going on in my life i'm like i have no time for this but then like a day like yesterday and this has now been three sundays in a row where i have been overly active in the space because i'm just watching the game and i'm just like processing my feelings the way i do but it seems like the only other person who cares to process their feelings there is muted for me yeah right just ends up me just me just texting into the void and then just seeing something funny from the stew bot like the vikings stole that game so so bad that it should be behind glass at cvs or whatever he wrote by the way i believe that that that skeet is getting a lot of attention for uh for our friend the stew oh did he oh is he is he

sort of sketching things out in the text chain and then i think i mean he may be workshopping

some stuff i don't know or maybe i don't know if he skeeted it first or if he posted it first and then and then posted in our chain i don't listen i have absolutely no judgment for that back when i was a much more active twitter user i absolutely would tweet something and then try to make it into my monologue for live wire and then try to make it into a bluff the listener like i uh i use every part of the tweet so i there's no shame in that but um all i'm saying is we need to maybe we could circle a date on the calendar when it works for everyone's schedule for us to all be active in the text chain at the same time because right now it feels sort of like a it feels like a um i don't know like a like a condo that only a few of us only one of us is ever staying and at the same time

we're never all there at the same point and it's got that weird empty corner sort of like somebody put an easy chair there but nobody's gonna sit in that chair that's so and also that fake plant

isn't fooling anybody exactly now listen after we thank some donors andrew you're totally right that as a sports fan well i guess as a sports fan of the teams i'm a fan of like the washington huskies and others it's felt somehow like the politics have been bad and the sports have been bad. Like, you know, the Huskies getting completely dominated and the like, you know, just I don't know. It's I'm with you that it feels like there's been a lot of a lot of sports news that I've sort of turned into some kind of version of political news. But I've got some I've got a couple of people that we can really focus on and stand going forward who I think are bucking the trend. So let's do that in a minute.

Let's thank some of the donors who are making TVTL possible today. You know, Andrew, yesterday was a real, it was a, it was, there was a lot of interaction with the, with the tens and other people who have experienced the Luke Burbank radio experience. Ran into Listener Amy at the Pike Place Market And then we went over to Beck and I went over to Magpie Mouse Studio To try to find Listener Sarah Who is running such an empire now

You couldn't find I've gone to the Magpie before too And I couldn't find Sarah

She was not there but the place was packed People were raving about the earrings We took a picture in front of it To prove we'd gone over there

I did the exact same thing

i'm like sarah i wasn't able to get in i tried this is us this is your door but um no it's really it was a really fun day of like and it is i will say this maybe it was just the last couple of days but being in seattle i i it's odd there's there seems to be more of an awareness of me as a i guess radio person here than other places because we got done with the half marathon and a guy was like you know hey you're luke burbank and you know love the show or whatever i was like oh thanks i also was very uh embarrassed because which show i didn't even have time to specify i didn't even try i just said thank you kept it moving but then also i ran into uh actually a friend of mine for years peter when becca and i were walking green lake and he his he's was in that thing called the mount saint helens vietnam band that we used to feature on the show and i didn't recognize him because his hair is longer and he had a hat on and he's like hey what's up And I was like, I think I might have literally said, do I know you, which sounds very accusatory. And he's like, yeah, Peter. I was like, oh, yeah, right. But, yeah, I was running into a lot of people that I either knew from the past or that were maybe TBTL listeners. So it's been what it's done is it's really caused my girlfriend to understand that I am somebody and I do matter. And, you know, I run a successful podcast that's supported by folks like Jennifer Strom of St. Charles, Illinois.

That's a hot zip for me. st charles illinois i can't walk down the street in st charles without people mobbing me

it's not like when i'm in new madrid that's the part of illinois where i really chart after i said after i roasted that town for mispronouncing the name madrid oh did you um did you get a bunch of

emails about that no it's on a fault line or something so it's a thing it's not it's like it wasn't people correcting you i think it was just or maybe it was i honestly don't really remember what you said about madrid it was part of a song or something it doesn't matter but point is like it might matter i mean it doesn't matter to me is what i meant to say there sorry if that was rude i meant it couldn't mean absolutely less couldn't mean less to me but

um i'm sorry if i hurt your feelings what i'm trying to say is i couldn't possibly in any universe give less of a shit about what you said but i guess it sort of it says what you um what

i think about when i hear about the term uh new madrid little rock would be the catastrophic area So anyway, I think it's on a big fault line or something.

Yeah, I think it's in Illinois, but I think it might have been listener Danny or somebody had sent like a map of the area, I think. Anyway, you're big in St. Charles, Illinois. I'm big in Seattle, Washington. It's fine. Leah Farzen's in on it, even though she's in Juneau, Alaska, where neither of us are very big right now. But we're building a community there, starting with Leah.

Wait a second. This says it's in Missouri. Why did somebody—you said it was in Minnesota, and then the person here said it was in Little— I didn't— I said it was in Illinois. Oh, I see. Little Rock would be in the catastrophic area. I see. Okay, never mind. You know what? I'm going back to not caring. Let's thank the donors. Sorry.

That's what you get for caring.

This happens to me all the time. That's what happens when you try. Yes.

Thanks, Megan Rodriguez of Austin, Texas. Nice. Beautiful Austin, Texas. I've been there. Thanks, James Hayes of South Orange, New Jersey.

Thank you. And I think we get emails from, I think it goes by Jim. I think I'm going out on a limb there. Of course, James is the official name here, but thank you, Jim. I hope I got that right. Appreciate you.

Thanks, Mackenzie Sargent of Seattle, Washington. Have I mentioned that's a hot zip for me, Andrew?

Nice. And also thanks, Mackenzie. I will always thank Mackenzie and her family for hooking me up with lodging for the Thing Festival in Port Townsend all those years. Remember, we were doing literally a show at the Thing Festival.

And then going to Minnesota like the next minute?

And then going on, I think, our tour or something, there was a bunch of stuff packed up. But the funny thing was, like, our listeners had lodging. And I was like, oh, yeah, should I find a place to stay when I'm out there supposedly doing a show? Yeah, and I would have been really up a creek without Mackenzie's help. So thank you.

Thanks, Mackenzie. Thanks also to Caitlin Neely, who's in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. God, it makes you want to.

smoke doesn't it it makes me want to time travel back to when i was a kid going to north carolina to visit my granddad farnham and i remember driving by all these tobacco shacks that were falling down like i think they were drying sheds i don't know if maybe the end maybe this was like the um the canary in the coal mine the leading indicator that smoking was gonna really get reduced in america all these drying sheds were just like going back to you know nature was batting last on them because maybe they weren't actively drying the tobacco in there anymore. But I remember just being totally stunned by the scenery of North Carolina as a kid, sitting in the back of some rental car as we headed down to New Bern.

Did I ever tell you, this is a very specific memory of mine, and I don't know what it says, but I remember the first time I picked up a pack of cigarettes. Growing up in the 80s, people smoked around us. I knew smoking was bad. It was something that I was supposed to never, ever do. Fortunately, I did do it for a couple of decades. But I remember being in Sandusky, Ohio. I believe I was either on my Uncle Steve's boat or maybe in the trailer he stayed at when he was visiting his boat. I think that's what you do. You visit your boat on weekends. Yeah.

I have weekends and summer visitation with my boat. Right. No, that makes sense.

Flag day.

And every other Christmas.

Yes, Flag Day, Arbor Day, and the other major holidays, I get the boat. Anyway, I remember, I think I was somewhere, and there was another kid nearby, and somebody's cigarettes. It was one of the adults' cigarettes, and my family did not smoke. I was never around them in my house, and there was a pack of cigarettes there, and to me, they were one of the most forbidden things. And I remember just picking them up, and I was shocked at how light the box was. And I thought it was empty, and I opened it up, and there were a bunch of cigarettes in there. And I don't know what I expected. I almost think of it as like when you're a kid and you see – when you meet somebody or you see somebody that you've heard on the radio your whole life and you're like, oh, my God, that's what you look like? And it's like, well, what did you expect this person to look like? You're like, I don't know, but not that, not that. um so anyway i don't know what i expected with a pack of cigarettes but there is so i feel like looking back there was so much kind of import put on cigarettes or not import but caution and everything it seemed like they it i should have it should have been so heavy to pick this up and for them to be so light like almost light as if it was empty or light like air it should have burned a hole in your hand it should have burned a hole in my soul like that coin that that dude

picks up in like indiana jones or whichever one where it gets you know what i mean that coin like

burns his hand that should have been what does ring a bell i can't yeah that rings a bell but anyway yeah i just remember picking and i don't know you know i don't want to be so um poetic as to say and that's and that's when i knew someday i'd be a smoker i don't i don't think i can draw a line there but i just remember being just absolutely fascinated at the lightness of a pack of cigarettes something that seemed like it should have been so heavy i don't think i have

ever in my life possessed a pack of cigarettes because my my very very brief foray into smoking cigarettes was just someone had a cigarette and I bummed it from them like I don't think I've ever purchased a pack of cigarettes I don't think I've ever I ever carried a pack I don't think I ever thought I'm gonna need to have two cigarettes this day so therefore I better stock up and I don't say any of that as like a therefore i am good i have almost every bad habit known to man that is just the one that didn't click with me but like i don't it's like i don't think i i don't think i i've ever been like like i wouldn't even know what to say if i walked into the like gas station to buy cigarettes like camels unfiltered or something probably don't start with unfiltered Marlboro Red

I'm kind of surprised that you've never rolled one up in your t-shirt sleeve before I know it seems like an affect

that I would 100% do

I feel like you would have gone through a phase like maybe when you were like making your movie or something like that you were going to be the guy with the cigarettes rolled up in your

I love nothing more than a good unearned affect you know that I immediately drop like right after I lose interest like that's very much my move but for some reason that never we were watching Addie and I were watching the Macy's Day Parade on Thanksgiving, as we are wont to do, and it's just, it is so wild to me, the things that become Broadway musicals, and the main way that I find out about Broadway musicals is when they're presented in, like, quick little, you know, one-minute chunks at the corner of, like, 34th and whatever it is in front of the Macy's building in New York as part of that parade.

To you, you're saying that's the sort of perfect amount in context?

It's too much of it. I don't want any of it. Oh, it's too much. Oh. it's it's the only way it's like me watching football and finding out whatever dreck fox and cbs are putting on in prime time the only way i find out about is watching football the

only way i find out on an all new father's home daddy i thought you were staying out all night they i think that those promos take potentially good shows and make them even worse there's some show out now i know i interrupted you i'm sorry but what is the show it's like hospital dennis or Or is it Nurse Dennis? Oh, St. Dennis Hospital. I knew it wasn't Hospital Dennis, but whatever. I have aphasia. Live with it. I'm offering myself grace, like the woman at the top of the show today. Yeah, you should. Yeah. But anyway, I found out that a comedian that I like on Instagram, Emma Pope is her name, by the way. We've played her tape at the beginning of the show as well.

She's trying to name NPR hosts from memory.

Yeah, her and her friend just sort of riffing. She does really, really funny stuff on Instagram. And then I saw because I follow her on Instagram, like, you know, she she was tagged in something or whatever. And I realized, oh, she's on that show, St. Dennis Hospital. And like, I don't know how much she's on it, but I'm like, oh, my God, she's really funny. That show, from what I've been exposed to it in the form of 15 second promos on whatever station I'm watching football, looks like the worst show in the world. At one point, you don't even see the setup for it. An older doctor is saying to a younger man, you're the Diana Ross of this place. You're not even the Bob Ross of this place. A joke that I have been tossing around in my head for weeks now trying to figure out why that's an insult. Like Bob Ross is still top of his game for what he did.

You know, the funny thing about you bringing up this show is I saw a headline the other day somewhere that was like St. Dennis Hospital ratings hit for like, I don't know if it's Peacock or NBC. but in these fractured media times there's so much stuff that just kind of like comes and goes and fails it's funny that that show was literally like singled out by somebody you know who writes about TV presumably to say hey this is working this is what America wants it's also starring Wendy McClendon Wendy McClendon Covey who was on Reno 911 and has actually been

on Livewire how did I not even realize that she's one of the I think she's like the star of it

supposedly she's great i couldn't yeah i haven't watched it it looks to me from the briefest of promos like it's another one of those kind of like um single camera kind of like faux documentary type of the office parks and rec whatever it is you know like i think that's the style abbott elementary now i think that might be the style of the show that they're making but it's just funny that like i was like well i guess that's working for them and you were like that looks like that looks like torture to me that is the equivalent of like blasting metallica to get

manuel noriega to come out of his right right right for you but it really does make me i think a lot of the shows we see promoted really are just absolute garbage whether it's a whether it's a terrible comedy like this or um did i say daddy's home before that actually is a movie huh didn't i i yeah i thought i was i thought father's home i think i thought i was making something up But clearly I was actually just parroting somebody else's reference to a real movie. But all of that is to say there's a chance that St. Dennis Medical might be funny. And the cut that I just saw is so bad. I'm even thinking about that particular Ross joke that I just told you, like there might be a funnier setup for that. But like they made like a two minute trailer for the show, but that had to be cut down for a minute. And then it had to be cut down eventually to 15 seconds. And I've been in positions where you have to keep cutting and cutting and cutting. It's like, well, you just can't make this work. It's like trying to make a 15 second promo for TBTL. It's nearly impossible. So anyway, maybe that show is great. But my God, that promo is awful.

Well, it seems like really the only content that Americans want to watch on network television now always involves police, fire or rescue of some kind. i feel like almost all of the fox programming now is either like a hawaii 5-0 reboot or peter what's his name from six feet under driving a fire truck up to like the san andreas fault yeah because he's like i want to say krause i want to say crouch cream peter krause i think krause i think krause i think krause okay i don't know you got closer than i did i do love how close That is too Crouch Cream, though. Yeah.

I've always heard, I think Genevieve, I could be wrong. I think it's Krause because that's how Genevieve says it, and she's smarter than me, but I could be wrong.

I feel like it's always that guy and Angela Bassett. Like, he drives a firetruck up to, like, there's, like, the big one hits L.A. this week on L.A. Fire Police. And there's, like, an earthquake, and he's, like, driving his firetruck up to the huge fault, and then Angela Bassett is rappelling from.

A helicopter down to it And then they're yelling something And then it's just back to Cletus the football Robot doing some weird shit As we're rejoining the game And the same thing over on the old CBS I think it's CBS that does the Chicago Fire Med Chicago Fire Med Phrenology Next week on Chicago Kidney Dialysis We're just plumbing Every aspect of the medical system And putting Oliver Platt in it and and and and by the way i love him did i tell you the funny thing he said to me once about that show he showed up to a wait wait don't tell me taping by the way a show i used to be on when it was good now it's bad and i don't like it anymore and that's why it's okay to make fun of it i feel i feel terrible i've had more than one person reach out to me and say i'm really sorry i shared that chris fleming tape with you and i was like oh no no no no that wasn't i wasn't that was not the response i was trying to uh get from you um but anyway we he because it's literally i think that show my film in chicago he just shows up randomly at a wait wait don't tell me not as a guest just like in the audience comes up afterwards where i'm like dude you're oliver platt he goes oh yeah i love this show i was like oh that's so cool i go what are you doing here goes i'm on like

chicago whatever oh yeah you have mentioned that i was like dude i love you so much but also by the By the way, before we should just make one point and then move on, Kathy Bates is Matlock? I just feel like at some point on TBTL, but I mean, you know that was a thing, right? I mean, you can watch. Do watch. Watch it on Fubo. Like, they just, all of a sudden, I just started seeing promos. Like, was it last football season or was it during the baseball season? It's like, no, it was early this football season. Because I remember I saw it on a pirated stream while we were watching the Seahawks home opener in Croatia. It was like, Kathy Bates is Matlock. And you're like, what, did she go into one of those blue tents Like when they put an injured football player in there And they clone them, but something went wrong They put Matlock in there and it came out as Kathy Bates I'm still confused I would honestly, like, I do think that would be pretty good

Like, I'll watch anything Kathy Bates is in

Yeah, no, I mean, sure, it's fine I mean, I do love Kathy Bates, but you know what I'm talking about, right? Like, this is a real thing I do know, no, no, I'm being serious

I'm highly, I think it might be on, is it on CBS? It might be on my parent network

Probably, yeah, I mean, it seems very CBS-y

it's kind of she's a fellow skydance employee as am i i think maybe that's who owns it now i think it's larry ellison's kids company all of it paramount or something i don't even know as long as the check's clear hello and welcome to top story all right i mentioned this last week on the show this guy that I am absolutely loving um named Jared McCain who is he's a rookie I believe for the Philadelphia 76ers I want to be careful because I know next to nothing about the NBA these days so I'm sure I'll get a lot of the details wrong but the first that I heard of this guy was actually people being mad about this guy because he's a really good basketball player like I think there's some conversation about him maybe being rookie of the year I don't know if that's hyperbole or not but what's kind of great about him is that ever since he did one year at duke and then uh was you know drafted i think in the first round but he's not a particularly tall guy for his position i think he might be like a forward or something but is he loves doing like tiktoks and stuff that are really kind of challenging the idea of being a quote-unquote tough guy like i there's no chance that you have been subjected to this meme andrew In fact, I don't even know why I've been subjected to it. But there was this whole thing that went around a couple of years ago where basically people would do these dances and little things, too. And I don't even I should have done my research this morning and figured out who does the original song. But there is some kind of song that's like I'm two days into college and I'm three classes behind. And it's basically like some British singer kind of going into like I'm in college, but I feel overwhelmed is basically the takeaway. And what this Jared McCain started out doing when he was at Duke was singing the song himself and then cutting to his clips, his highlight clips at Duke. So let me just play you a little bit of this kid, Jared McCain. It starts out with him. So the first thing you hear is him literally singing, and then it shifts into the recorded version of the song, just for context.

I'm two days into college, and I am three lectures behind.

By the way, I love him committing to the British accent. he is not i will stress from england he just is that into this song

i'm two days in the college and i am three lectures behind there's this guy let's name him colin he said he wants to be mine but it doesn't really sit with me quite right because he doesn't really like the things i like and i keep accidentally knocking myself out of my dorm

in the middle of the night so then the song starts playing and it's just him just absolutely Hooping just just shattering dude's lives with his crossover dribble and his dunking and everything he also uh is a fan of painting his nails he is um you know like just super happy to jump on any kind of a tiktok dance trend and here's the thing i was i was realizing this morning as i was trying to compose my thoughts about this jared mccain guy it's not just that he is someone who is a professional athlete a male professional athlete who is happy to just kind of be himself and to just like you know do the things he's interested in online it's also that he's so good at basketball like it's one thing if you're the last person on the bench and you're like your whole thing is being quirky but this i don't know if i've ever seen a player who is as like into the stuff that he's into and also just absolutely destroying people on the court and it's making people really mad this was him doing an interview talking about all of the people who love to go hard against him online because he likes to do tiktoks that are seen as you know quote unquote feminine or something

like that i mean at first it was tough because i was like i'm just spreading i'm trying to spread positivity and then people are hating saying i mean saying everything to me um at games it was crazy but at a certain point i'm just like it's just they're either insecure about themselves or just projecting something that you know maybe they're hiding whatever um to themselves and they're just trying to throw an opinion out just to get a reaction out of you that's all they want is a reaction I got to tell my parents like they want to respond more than I do and I got to tell them like no like just chill just chill it's alright so I just is you get used to it at a certain point I definitely it I didn't really like how just people talk about the nails the tick tocks more than basketball I'm like you know I've done basketball since I was three years old like I do this stuff on the side but obviously it's got me where I'm at today um but when they try and overshadow like my hard work in basketball just by saying the tiktok that's that's when i hate it but it's something you gotta live with anyway just seems like the

sweetest dude and again him prospering on the basketball court but also just like being his authentic self off of the basketball court it's giving me hope in these turbulent times where i feel like the nick boases of the world uh are i mean thankfully he's currently injured but like Like you even said it casually and probably slanderously about J.J. Watt. It just seems like the bad guys are always getting Ws, and I like it when the good guys are. And I think it might actually be spreading because I saw this, and I know this hurts me, Andrew, to celebrate a Los Angeles Ram, but there is a dude named Kobe Turner who plays for the Rams. And this is actually not particularly interesting audio because really what it is is it's him in his team hotel room the night before they're about to play the New Orleans Saints. But what he is extremely hyped about is that the people behind the film version of the musical Wicked have released a tutorial on how to do the dance to a song from Wicked. This is a big individual, Andrew. This is a big man setting up his phone in his hotel room to dance to. This is the music. he is spinning around he is clutching a book which i think might be the book wicked and he is in his absolute glory the night before he's about to go out and smack he's about to go participate in a series of sanctioned automobile accidents involving human beings and he's in his room doing a dance of wicked there is I have never seen a person looking less cool doing anything than him doing this dance and I am so here for it

I haven't seen all of this so I don't have a lot to add I know it's not your

it's not your corner of TikTok

I had a I had a what do they call it like a unearthed memory that's not the word there's a more

I think usually repressed memory and it's usually it's usually in some darker context an uncovered uh memory or something

this weekend where because i'm you know there again just having football on sort of in the background especially sunday night football when i came home um just like just inundated with ads for wicked commercials for wicked it's not my scene but obviously people enjoy it brings no harm to the world i don't have anything negative to say but definitely not my scene um but then as i was i remembered this is a weird thing but i remembered that it started as a book and i was like oh yeah it was a book so i think of it as like the theater production or you know the stage

production turned into the movie you think of it as the wickedly talented the dina menzel

talented but then i was like wait a second i read that book i was like no i didn't read that book i read like the second or third book in the wicked series That's not a thing I expected you to do No, I know I'm looking this up now I don't think it was Son of a Witch You had Wicked and then you had Son of a Witch Anyway, and then I was like, why did I read that book? And I think I was working with a host on a public radio show way back I think this was in New Hampshire When I was living in New Hampshire, working for New Hampshire Public Radio But it wasn't that we were interviewing whoever wrote those books I can't remember their name anymore. But I think that Gregory Maguire, I think it was good memory. No, I just looked it up quickly. But the host of that show was interviewing him on stage for something that wasn't like quite related. You know, it's like an in conversation or whatever. And I think she just asked for some help. She's like, I'm not I don't really know anything about Wicked. Like it was just weird because she was a radio host. She reads books and then interviews people about them all the time. But for some reason, maybe she was overwhelmed. She's like, well, you help me come up with questions. I was like, yeah, I guess. So I read. I just think I don't know. I just think it's interesting that I don't know anything about Wicked. It's not for me. I won't see the movie. But I did read the second or third book in the Wicked trilogy at some point or whatever it is, the Wicked series at some point.

You know, you sound like is me with random books that I've read because they're Livewire guests. Yeah, right. Maybe not a particular like I've now read. I was a teenage slasher, which was actually a very entertaining book about like, but it's basically from the horror genre because we were having the author, Stephen Graham Jones on the show. So now if that ever were to come up, I'd be like, oh, yeah, Stephen Graham Jones. I've read I was a teenage slasher. He's written like thirty five books. That's the one that I could tell you about. We could talk about that book, but just because of a professional obligation more so than I went and picked it off the bookshelf somewhere.

I think I read A Lion Among Men, by the way, which is the third in the series. A Lion Among Men, yes. Oh, because of the character, the cowardly lion, I guess. Yeah, the thing is, I remember nothing about this.

Nothing.

I didn't even know there were multiple books. I thought there was just the book that was Wicked, which kind of was from the point of view of like the so-called Wicked, which was Elphaba was kind of misunderstood.

Yeah, like a new contextualization, which I think kind of a clever idea.

We're not done with the Wicked discourse yet, Andrew, because it'll come back in a quick second here. Remember when we had so much fun making fun of Russell Wilson trying to do this Mr. Unlimited thing?

Unlimited. Yeah, I heard your promo for this. I don't know where this is going, but I think it's a tough sell on me. However I feel about Russell Wilson, which is generally good these days, do you really think you have something that can make me uncringe that tape?

I don't know. I'll try it. Well, here's the thing. It did not go unnoted by the rest of the world, apparently. I thought it was just us being obsessed with a deep cut from Russell Wilson's social media. But he had a great game for the Pittsburgh Steelers last night. I think he threw for 400 yards. Oh, my God. He's got his groove back, and also, I have to footnote that I did predict this, but also, I predict a lot of things that don't happen. This is one of the things that seems to be happening, which is Russell Wilson's doing really well with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm now fully pro-Russell Wilson. I feel like he definitely, whatever ego death I needed him to suffer, I feel like he got to suffer it in Denver. It's enough already, but Najee Harris is a Pittsburgh Steeler, and after Russell Wilson threw for all the time, those yards yesterday. Najee Harris is just in the locker room with his phone up filming Russell Wilson, who, by the way, is dressed head-to-toe in black. I believe Najee Harris says he's out here looking like Bruce Wayne or something. I think he's out here looking like the Batman. But listen to what Najee Harris is just saying into his phone as he's recording an unsuspecting Russell Wilson after the game. Unlimited! Check him out, too. He look good. We're all black. Looking like Bruce Wayne. unlimited everybody somebody has now made a song that's blowing up the internet because andrew in the movie wicked the play wicked there's a song called unlimited and someone is now mixing wicked and russell wilson being unlimited

you gotta be unlimited you know you gotta have a thought process of being unlimited

unlimited diary i forgot until that clip that along with the mr unlimited there was a time when one of his dogs had diarrhea and he was calling it that's right that came later yeah that's right so he was already i mean sort of sort of to his credit he was already sort of like acknowledging like he was already sort of in a in a follow-up social media post way back in the day acknowledging how cringy the original one was right was it knowing you can never tell how knowing he is with anything exactly he's he's he's it's like the

riddle of the sphinx you can't know if russell wilson's in on the joke or not but i but uh but I don't agree.

You gotta be unlimited. Tell them, I'm unlimited.

I guess it really gets into the song at the end. I thought there was one more clip of him talking about diarrhea. Here's why I'm saying Russell Wilson may be getting the last laugh, because stuff like this that I feel like is so cringe and corny the first time through, once it sort of gets passed through the... What was that thing that you were supposed to be able to put bad alcohol in, like a kangaroo something, and it would kind of make it a little better? Did you ever hear about this thing?

No, no, I have no idea what you're talking about.

there was some kind of let me just use like the let me let me go with the human body once this stuff is metabolized and then it passes through like the liver and it gets kind of filtered out and then it's you know whatever like i feel like now this makes me laugh like if russell wilson like throws for 400 and says hey guys mr unlimited's back i'm laughing at him saying that whereas when he said it as a seahawk i'm dying of embarrassment for him and i just love that like low-key the guys on the Pittsburgh Steelers like Najee Harris were all just like they all saw that and thought it was so funny when he or so cringe when he did it but now I feel like it's been it's been rehabilitated for me like I I don't think the concept of Mr. Unlimited worked but I think Russell Wilson's redemption arc and now like Mr. Unlimited being being transubstantiated into

something funny for me I can just feel it happening you know I um I'm happy for him too I generally root for him and I swung back and forth wildly I wanted him to fall on his face in Denver which he did and like the thing about the unlimited thing for me and I wasn't familiar with this new tape and again I am generally happy for him right now and it all kind of always depends on a million different contextual like sort of factors but like this is you know less cringy because he's now cooking as they say which is nice for me though when somebody reminded me of like I heard a clip of Unlimited or something the other day Not in this new context It was a good Reminder for me of why I Disliked him I don't even think it was the Unlimited I heard the full extended Cut of him trying to sell Sandwiches for Subway You play the clip of It's spicy and it's like the audio is blown out But you hear that whole thing and it's like You remember like oh yeah he would make a whole Bunch of like the Unlimited thing like kind of like cream rose to the top but there were a lot of videos of him and sierra and him just being like laying in bed and like sort of talking about whether or not he's gonna stay with the seahawks but like it's just like he really is cringe like he can be both it's it's hey thanks for the support like i just feel like it really everything come back to a miller like no i just love that guy screaming in the background it's one of my favorite commercial moments in years I don't know why I find it so funny but anyway it just kind of really depends on everything I can't forget how cringy he was and that he did make some pretty hugely egotistical moves at a time when he shouldn't have been sometimes an egotistical move really pays off you know what I mean he made the wrong move at the wrong time and fell in his fast and maybe he's humbled a little bit again I'm not here rubbing it in his face but also the North remembers you know like there's a reason it was cringy and so i i don't know it's a good reminder of like kind of why oh and by the way this is not hugely important but just a quick correction before you you referred to naji harris as um i think a running back for the steelers but don't forget i just he also plays for the um fantasy team uh bad bad bath and bijon uh and he um i don't think i knew that was the name of your team yeah i got i just wanted to slip that in there because i love the name of my team i got bijon robinson on my team so i named it bed bath and bijon and um by the way harris got me uh 25 points to help me uh really seal the win this weekend so thank you

well what what you gave me too much credit you if you go back to the tape andrew i just said he plays for the steelers because i couldn't remember if he was

a running back or I think he's a running back boy I should I know I should know I'm sure he is

yeah listen you would know but I'm saying I generalized it because I was like let's not let's not let's let's let's close the things that close let's let's not try to be overly whatever with our football knowledge um but um I'm glad that uh see everybody everybody had a good day on Sunday uh your the did the did Bed Bath and Bijan win yeah I'm you know it was a

I know people love hearing about fantasy sports, so I'll really just try to take my time with this and luxuriate in this story.

I have one minute before they kick me out of the Airbnb, by the way.

Yeah, how funny how that pops up now. I would luxuriate for 30 seconds with it. No, I was just going to say that I honestly, after the draft, the system will give you a grade, and for the first time ever, the system gave me an A-plus grade on my draft. I was like, oh, my God, this is amazing. And then I started the season by losing the first four games. I was absolute bottom of the league for reasons I still don't understand, but have crawled my way up to second place where I currently am as Bed Bath & Bijan.

This is what I always say, Andrew. The future is not written. It's not written. Fluky plays tend to even out. I apply that to life.

Yes. You might say that the expectations of my team are, well, unlimited.

Oh, they've moved from limited to unlimited.

They're now unlimited. Exactly.

Excellent. Like fantasy unlimited Like they put un and then the carrot And now they're unlimited

Wait what hold on I lost you I don't know is that worth explaining to me the carrot

No there was like a There was like a porn story In like downtown Seattle that was called fantasy Unlimited But they had tacked on the un Kind of like to emphasize That it no longer was limited

Oh I see oh okay No I didn't know about that

Yeah well I think it's gone now I think the window is closed on that type of media. Anyway, physical anyway. Hey, thanks for listening, everyone. We are going to be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you, so please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Monday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

Hey, you want to split this Subway sandwich? It is my signature sandwich. It's called the Danger Witch, and it's dangerously good. Be careful, though. It's spicy.

Hmm.

You ever done anything dangerous?

oh geez that is dangerous i've done something like that too i won't tell anybody

listen one time never mind that's too dangerous anyways my danger witch it's only in the vault that's our little secret power out