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#4368 I'll Be Slanged
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#4368 I'll Be Slanged

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

December 27, 2024 | 00:40:59 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke finds himself in an awkward conversation with someone he wrongly assumed had very different political views than himself.  He and Andrew also tackle one of the Top Stories that they skipped in 2024: Oxford's "Word Of The Year." Andrew has issues with it!
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For he's a jolly good fellow, and nobody can, but I can, nobody can, I'll get this, okay, but I can, I'm gonna look up those lyrics, you got it, alright, that was good. T-B-T-L

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Guess what day it is Guess what day it is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend You're here to make friends Making friends is the name of this show

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But if what you want is Superman The only way you can get him is illegally From a modern day pirate

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Sometimes people say that my head is too big for my body, and then I say, compared to what?

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Look, man, you know your stuff, but you're like a crazy volcano. You'd have to show me you can bring it down a notch. I'll bring it down a thousand notches if I have to!

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Right on down to a Friday edition of TVTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name's Luke Burbank. I am your host, coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia. And just about, I don't know what to say, like a couple of hundred miles up Interstate 5 from me is that guy, that guy right over there, the longest-running Cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's Andrew Walsh. He is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning.

00:01:28 - 00:01:33 | Speaker 5:

I'm looking up whatever happened to Jillian.

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Are you kidding me, Andrew? No, what do you know? I'm literally on Jillian Bell's imbb.com page, and I was going to say to you, we need more Jillian Bell.

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I've always felt that way, and I don't know what... So Jillian Bell is the actress that you heard, the actor that you heard. That was from Workaholics, right? Yeah, exactly, that you heard at the beginning of the show. That clip was from Workaholics, not Alcoholics. That's a project I'm working on.

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That's a project I'm working to beat.

00:02:00 - 00:02:11 | Speaker 5:

I loved Workaholics, and there are a lot of things to love about that show, but Jillian was always my favorite. Then she was in a show called Idiot Sitter.

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She wanted an Arnold Schwarzenegger haircut?

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Yes. Oh, do you want to just clear out the file on Jillian? Because she was also on Idiot Sitter. I don't know if you watch much of that. That started as a web series that Comedy Central then put on TV for a while. I loved that show. She is so her and her partner in that I can't remember. The two women. T.J. Miller? No, the two women in that show. Why did I think he was in it, too? He is in a scene with her. I think he has an appearance on that show. But anyway, I loved Idiot Sitter, and I was like, Jillian, I will follow you anywhere. But then I stopped following her, and I don't know where she is now. What is she working on, and how can we get more of her projects in our life?

00:02:51 - 00:03:05 | Speaker 4:

You're absolutely right, by the way. It's Jillian Bell and Charlotte Newhouse are the two main characters in Idiot Sitter. I think it's like, is it, I think Jillian Bell is like a spoiled brat and Charlotte Newhouse is assigned to watch her?

00:03:06 - 00:03:23 | Speaker 5:

Yes, that is the case. And I'm going to pull this audio out here for a second here. We're going to start with some idiot sitter clips here. This one is, I don't know if we're going to hear Jillian in this. This is a DJ talking, I believe.

00:03:23 - 00:03:32 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I've been DJing for like deuce years now. There's something about loud music and tight spaces, you know? I just live it when the beat drops and everybody's face is like,

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whoa, the beat just dropped. Yeah, that's what it's like. Yeah, that's what I do. I'm like, whoa. Right? That must be so fresh.

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On a fresh level, it is the froshest.

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On the fresh level, it is the froshest. It could be Paul Rudd, but it could be a Paul Rudd-alike possibly. Uh-huh, sure. I'm not sure about that. You know, I have so much of this. I don't think we can play at all. But I am thinking that maybe the workaholic stuff is the better. What is the jingle? I mean, it's kind of seasonally appropriate, right? It's the jingle all the way haircut. Yeah, she's like a short, stiff. I'm going to get myself an Arnie Schwarzenegger. Short, stiff, and tall, she says. She says short, stiff, and tall, which makes no sense. There's no way that was written down.

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That had to be ad-libbed because it's too insane to write down, right?

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That is absolutely right. Is it legal to be this insane here? I think I found it here. I'm going to try to play this from a different program this time. Let's see if this...

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Be honest. What is it about me that no one respects? Is it my hair? Yeah. I'm thinking about getting a new haircut. Changing stuff up. Maybe getting like an Arnie Schwarzenegger jingle all the way type of haircut. You know, short, tall, and stiff. Kind of like how I like my men.

00:04:48 - 00:04:53 | Speaker 5:

It doesn't make any sense, and I love it. I'm in love with that audio so much.

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I mean, the thing is that Jillian Bell appears to be having a great career that anyone would be lucky to have.

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have that she's working a lot she's in a lot of different things but i feel like we need a jillian bell vehicle yes i agree i agree we don't need her to just be showing up and i don't say just like this isn't anything but like a you know a one episode arc on curb your enthusiasm right like we we need a curb your enthusiasm that's built around the comedy genius of jillian bell and that's how i

00:05:21 - 00:05:40 | Speaker 2:

that's how i felt about idiot sitter i'm looking for the one that had tj miller where they're talking about how um they're they're making food in the kitchen i believe and she was also an inherent vice apparently she was i loved inherent vice did you like inherent vice i did not see it

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i did not watch it is a vibe i have a feeling i would not i have a feeling it'd be maybe hard for me to get through even though i love paul thomas anderson i love joaquin phoenix and i think and

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also um who's the actor that uh brolin right isn't that a isn't that a josh brolin oh okay sure i honestly think you would like it it's a long movie it's based on a thomas pin show pin show pin show

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pin show um novel i didn't even know this was by him so i'm not going to be the one trying to say

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how to pronounce uh no you're i guess you're right but um which i've never read in it but it's like and everybody told me like listen it's impossible to turn this book into a movie it's don't go see this movie expecting the plot to be satisfied like just like go and enjoy the movie and i went in with that attitude i think i saw it in la and i know i saw it in the theater and i loved it so much because i love noir films it's kind of like a neo-noir film um not not not completely unlike like a lebowski vibe sort of like sort of a private eye sort of vibe but a california-based you know and um a little bit like um who's the oh god what was that show i was obsessed with from the 70s the something files the rockford files a little bit like the rockford files only it's like so beautiful and it's got all the tropes it's got like you know somebody gets involved with a cult he's trying to track down some missing girl blah blah blah and it does you're losing the plot like very quickly but it doesn't matter just just ride along with these wonderful characters okay that's

00:07:12 - 00:07:30 | Speaker 3:

a great uh recommendation and also level setting expectation management yeah for me anyway more jillian bell that's i think the the theme of today's show and also possibly brain rot maybe if we get to did you know that our little you're so committed to us not did you know that our little

00:07:30 - 00:07:36 | Speaker 2:

our little bg on me comes from workaholics i didn't even realize that is that the guy cool

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is that wait is that the same guy that says like cool scott some young cool people called me that

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He called me that one time.

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Yeah, this is apparently...

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Who's that actor? A little BG on me. I do HR. It means human resources. Here at TAC, my name is Eric Rossdale. Some people call me Cool Eric. They called me that once. Some young people, too. Some one young person did that. I love people, to say that another way. I love people. I love people. That one's got a little more fun to it, doesn't it?

00:08:04 - 00:08:09 | Speaker 2:

Oh, I love it so much. I did not remember that that was a... Whoa! Wow, that wasn't from me.

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That was for me trying to get eyes on Cool Eric. I'm now watching a clip. That's the guy you just

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heard. No, no, I know, but I don't know

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who the actor is. I was trying to see if he's an actor that I recognize from other things, because you'd think that they would just list him in the credits. I'd put in Eric Rostell Workaholics and said I just get a clip of him. I don't get the... Oh, here we go. Cool Eric actor. Let's see. Oh, oh. You know who it is, Andrew? Who? Mitch Hurwitz, creator of Arrested Development. That's who plays that? I didn't know that he ever was on screen. That's the creator of Arrested Development. Cool, Eric.

00:08:51 - 00:08:55 | Speaker 2:

Oh, my God. Do you recognize his face? Has he been on screen before?

00:08:55 - 00:09:13 | Speaker 3:

Yes, I did recognize it, but I couldn't quite place it. He's in a bike helmet and a cycling outfit in the clip I was watching. Right, right. And you don't see Mitch Hurwitz on TV very much. He has been in things, but very sporadically. So that's Okay, there you go That's a little fun fact

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We can get to work now if you want If you insist The Oxford

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We started to talk about this yesterday And then we punted on it Which again was very apropos Because the idea is We're going to try to go through And handle some top stories That we promoted and never got to During 2024 But I have more questions than answers with this article Than I'm looking at from Time Magazine

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Can we play the Top Story intro, do you mind here? Oh, okay Hello and welcome to Top Story

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Brain Rod is the 2024 word of the year According to Oxford University Press Now, where I'm getting confused By the way, this is an article by Chad DeGuzman and

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at Time Magazine, if you've been scrolling too long on social media, you might be suffering from brain rot, the word of 2024, per the publisher of the Oxford English Dictionary. So in other words, in years past when they've said the Oxford English Dictionary's word of the year is, what they really mean is the people that publish it, the Oxford University Press, right?

00:10:20 - 00:11:02 | Speaker 2:

I assume that you're right about that. I was sort of doing the same sort of mental gymnastics to sort of figure out exactly how to credit this and even if it's not officially the dictionary it's like basically the dictionary people and i just feel like not to start super negative here you would think if anybody knows what a word is it would be the dictionary people and i am here to argue that brain space rot is not a word i would argue that is a phrase it is two words combined into a phrase how is that the word of the year i am i need to calm down about this but i feel a little bit on my high

00:11:02 - 00:11:19 | Speaker 1:

horse about it too and it looks like the other kind of runners up weren't much better dynamic pricing come on not a word finalist phrase um lore was uh was one of the finalists uh romanticy

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i don't know about romanticy but i see a good one coming up here that should have been the word of the year slop no demure that one wins you hate see you hated it when i was maybe didn't hate i

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never hated it no i was the one pushing that very very mindful very demure thing i remember you

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playing that early on i think i heard it i think i did hear it on the show before um before i saw the tape the original tape of it and then everybody sort of like you know kind of spoofing on it but i did i i can 100 reject the idea that i ever had any negative attitudes about okay that's fair

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yeah that's fair i'm wondering what the next you know we've already uh today revived the career of jillian bell i wonder what's the next step for for that woman who's the very demure very mindful yeah yeah like like you know what i mean like because i remember seeing her right after that became a thing um and was just absolutely blowing up the internet uh i remember seeing them do i not have i don't weirdly i don't have it on this computer i have it on my travel computer that's to play it but um i saw her in like she was in a hotel room in las vegas and she was being very actually genuine and was saying that like this the popularization or the popularity of very demure very mindful had changed her life extensively to where she was able to quit her job that she didn't really want to have and and become basically a content creator and she was in las vegas doing something related to this new phase of her life and yet i haven't really seen her anywhere since then like how do you turn can you turn that into a sitcom can very demure very mindful can you power a a netflix movie on that like i wonder what the because the indication was that her life had changed uh you know dramatically for this and that she was going to be able to um you know um i guess sort of capitalize on it but i wonder how you capitalize on that and we haven't seen her now we have the super bowl hasn't happened yet that's a good point maybe a super bowl ad or

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something oh i thought you were thinking maybe a halftime show popping up through the stage as a special surprise guest but here's the deal and i and i will um i i looked it up by the way i'm not gonna pretend like i knew this off the top of my head jules lebron is the question here um and you know though and again i hope this doesn't come off as negative because i i find delight in that clip i'm glad it went viral sometimes things go viral and it just brings you delight you're like I'm glad this one did. But I also am a believer that not everything, not every, you know, three word phrase that goes viral needs to then be tortured into a sitcom or something like sometimes these things are just more beautiful when we aren't trying to squeeze or the person in question isn't trying to just squeeze every last penny out of it. and like you know i think about like in the early days of the popular internet i know that's a weird way to say that but i'm kind of being serious like not the early days of the internet like in the 70s when scientists were like using punch cards to talk to each other across a football field i know a lot about computers remember that famous remember that famous thing where they set computers on either side of a football field and talked using punch cards hidden minds you you hid your mind so well you can't find it i think i hid my mind this morning but anyway i uh all of that is to say where is my mind where is my mind but when i think of like when the internet sort of like came of age and people it became something that was like omnipresent it was changing the way people were shopping it was changing the the expectations of life it was also where people were starting to really like goof around with the internet and it's like it's it's high power days I'm going to say the early to mid 2000s. You had stuff that would go like, let's call it viral and then inevitably it wasn't like shit my dad says or something wasn't that a whole thing and then they tried to turn that into a into a something on like more of a traditional platform like regular broadcast tv or something i believe uh william shatner was the dad who was saying shit let's like have some restraint and let's like the beautiful things just be beautiful in their in in their

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brief moment to shine if yeah uh i'm just looking now at the shit my dad says the sitcom uh the uh theme song was your dogs by ben folds it starred uh it starred uh william shatner uh will sasso from mad tv and nicole sullivan it had one season the plot ed is a very opinionated 72 year old who has been divorced three times his two adult children henry and vince are accustomed to his unsolicited, often politically incorrect rants. Oh, Dad.

00:15:58 - 00:16:05 | Speaker 2:

Uh-huh. You're saying shit. That's just shit my dad says. Oh, and they probably couldn't even call it. It was broadcast TV, right? So is it like S-H? Oh, no, it's bleep.

00:16:05 - 00:16:31 | Speaker 1:

No, it's literally a picture. Just imagine, Andrew, something even worse than you were thinking. It's just a picture of an angry William Shatner who's in the midst of saying something but bleeped across his mouth is dollar sign hashtag asterisk exclamation point my dad says. Are his arms crossed in front of him? We can't see his arms but it reads as yes. It reads that they are crossed.

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Right, exactly.

00:16:33 - 00:17:43 | Speaker 1:

So, brain rot. It's not one word, it's two words and I agree with you. The thing about this whole thing, and again you look at things like, I do actually think slop is kind of interesting because I think that that slop is a reference to all of this ai generated stuff that's starting to really clog up the pipes of the internet i was wondering okay that's being described as slop just all like for instance like if you were to go like try to buy a book by somebody that it was a popular book like i know this happened recently to the um to the tech writer kara swisher she put out a book very popular book but then all of these like i don't know if it's humans or bots or whatever but then there are all these fake versions of her book that are in you can buy digital versions of and so it's like you know you download it to your kindle and it's so confusing because it's the the it's kind of a book it's kind of about the thing that cariswish is writing about but it's not it's just an ai fantasy based off of like one prompt but the deal is if you're just sorting by cheapest You might actually buy the wrong Kara Swisher, the fake one.

00:17:43 - 00:18:03 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is so dirty and nasty. And I wonder if that especially happens because she is a tech writer. And so therefore there are like tech individuals or bots or whatever that kind of see that as something that can be that can be manipulated. But like that is that is such shit.

00:18:03 - 00:18:12 | Speaker 1:

But that's also a good word that describes an actual thing this year that has become more of a problem.

00:18:12 - 00:18:22 | Speaker 2:

Sure, yeah, and it's a word. I don't even think of brain rot. I mean, have you really thought about brain rot before this story reared its ugly little brain?

00:18:22 - 00:18:55 | Speaker 1:

You know what? I've heard it. I've seen it in the discourse, but I didn't give it a ton of thought. This is what, according to this Time magazine piece, brain rot speaks to one of the perceived dangers of virtual life. and how we are using our free time, according to Caspar Grathwal, the president of Oxford Languages, said in the announcement, it feels like a rightful next chapter in the cultural conversation about humanity and technology. It's not surprising that so many voters embrace the term, endorsing it as our choice this year. Oh, so I guess this is like a vote, too, which I don't let the Internet vote on anything.

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Yeah, I agree.

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The term has gained new traction among Gen Z and Gen Alpha. These communities have amplified the expression Did I tell you that when I was running that Half marathon You know lots of people had Signs out which actually was really fun Like people really went all out with the signs It was actually really encouraging and nice But there was one where there was this little kid He had a sign he was standing next to his mom And he said my dad is like the ultimate My dad is the ultimate Sigma

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No I thought you were going to say Rizzler

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No but that's when I said You got to Rizz your dad up and the kid looked so afraid of me.

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Yeah.

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And then I saw the photos.

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You were bleeding from your nipples.

00:19:34 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 1:

I seriously probably was because the, oh my gosh, we've got all kinds of stuff going on. What's going on over there? You seem very distracted. I'm sorry. There's a deer in my, there's a family of deer in the yard. There was a noise outside of the Madrona Hill studio. When, you know, when you run one of those like races, they have tons of photographers and also I think like cameras that are just, um

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on like a motion detector throughout the race course. And because you're wearing that number on your front, when the race is all done, they have a whole website and they're like, would you like to buy any of these photos of yourself running Triumphant? Oh, like a roly coaster. Yes, exactly. Uh, and I looked at these photos, Andrew, and I have never felt worse about myself.

00:20:22 - 00:20:33 | Speaker 1:

And you're doing something that, and you're doing something that is physically good. You know, it's both an accomplishment. It would be for me anyway. myself and um and certainly something that is good for you and healthy and then but you see

00:20:33 - 00:21:31 | Speaker 2:

yourself like sweaty and vulnerable oh my gosh so bad like first of all it looks like it there are no pictures where i have where i don't have both feet on the ground if that makes any sense like it doesn't look like i'm running oh i see yeah you want to be in the air like jordan i will not even like jordan i want to be i want to be one foot off the ground and one foot landing on the I'm in stride. I'm running. It's chariots of fire. It's Eric Little action No, every picture and by the way, I was I know exactly what I was running. I was running eight minute ten second miles That's exactly what I did. It meant my time was 14702 I was running. I know that my both feet were off the ground a lot But there are no photos of that happening. It looks like I just power walked it by the way if you power walk a half marathon that's awesome i'm not crapping on that also every single photo is from the ground level oh geez what

00:21:31 - 00:22:08 | Speaker 1:

are they doing there one flattering why are they well yeah i mean i guess it might be one of those things if you're somebody who's like really in shape like i now that you say that i'm picturing i'm picturing like runner's world and it seems like maybe that is an angle you see a lot i'm picturing i don't know if i'm accurate about this or not but i sort of feel like i can picture a cover of runner's world where there's some like really like you know in shape runner and it's taken from below you know so it really kind of focuses maybe on the running shoe or something like that like i could see that being a real the musculature in the legs sure like a real power pose but like that's but you have all kinds of people who are running these things and you have

00:22:08 - 00:22:54 | Speaker 2:

people like luke who there wasn't and by the way these between the human photographers and then i guess think the motion activated ones there must have been 20 photos of me not one of them was in the remotest sense cool looking and by the way andrew this is the sad part there were a couple of points where i was running and i noted that there was a photographer and against my all all indications from my body like this is particularly towards the end of the race my body is really really shutting it down it's really like we don't like this anymore but i was like chest up you know chin out like look like you're just at you could like look like you could do this for an extra 40 miles after this. Like I was literally posing for the photograph sometimes.

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So you're saying like, what if I wasn't posing? What would these have come out like? Maybe better. Maybe.

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I don't know. I really was very dispirited by this because, again, I was proud that I pulled this off and that I set it as a goal and that I did it and I got what for me was an okay time. And then I look at the photos and I just absolutely took away any of the any of the pride that i felt about the incident all that is to say i went by a kid who was telling his dad his dad's a sigma and i said you gotta riz your dad up and now that i've seen the photos of what i looked like running i understand why he recoiled i you know i have

00:23:33 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 1:

you're the one on this show and i think we're pretty early on in the cycle of this trend you're the one who kind of introduced into the conversation for me these supposed slang terms of gen alpha including the in fact i think it was the first time i heard the word gen alpha because i kept thinking that you were quoting somebody named gen alpha i'm not joking and i think i said that took me a long time to realize you're not quoting a linguist here you're talking about a generation called gen alpha and that they were doing this skibbity toilet thing and the rizzler and all this stuff and then like you know we talked about it out yeah it became a whole thing on the show we got people creating ai voices of terry gross saying that or whatever and then it's had a very long tail because then you know i started to hear like the other like just like the kind of just am radio shows start to pick up on it later then they go through the whole thing like you don't know what the rizzler is or whatever and it sort of seemed like i can't think of a time first of all i guess i was going to start to say that i'm glad that we're past that now like not just us as a show but sort of as society i feel like we're seeing less and less of that but also i've always just been a little bit dubious that it was really a thing and i don't know how to explain that because we've heard from so many listeners and by the way we're kind of back on the topic of words of the year so i'm kind of kind of proud of us here um but uh wait till you see a photo of us doing the show shit definitely

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devastating um i feel like it was always i know that we heard from a lot of people who are like my kid came home saying these things i heard it on tbtl first or what have you um so i'm not saying that it didn't catch on the kids weren't saying it but it's sort of it always felt like tail wagging the dog ish a little bit to me and also that because the definitions of these things were so like oblique it's sort of it it felt like first of all when in our history have the buzzwords come from so young of a generation i don't know what i'm arguing here i sound like i'm arguing and i'm not arguing but like literally these were children this wasn't like teenagers who were kind of like that's neat man in the 1950s while rolling their cigarettes up in their short sleeve shirt like that i could see as slang coming from like a rock and roll generation but we're talking about like seven-year-olds here supposedly introduced this into the lexicon right here's what i think happened

00:25:59 - 00:27:12 | Speaker 1:

and why it feels kind of off to you is because the lifespan of something like this is so sped up so instead of there being a fairly long sustained period of time where young people were using some terms that the old people didn't really understand it's like one young person somewhere once said skibbity toilet and then we started writing think pieces about it yeah that's what of what i like it didn't it's it's not quite astroturf because we didn't go tell the kids to say sigma or riz but the second they did we then all were like we're talking like the young kids we're rizzing each other up we're giat like it just you know what i mean it just it was a barely a probably a nascent thing that we then all jumped on yeah instead of it you know how long were the hippies saying far out man before any any squares before any astronauts andrew uh figured it out before goldie hahn was saying it on laugh in precisely like i have a feeling that like because everything now is sped up because it's like everything gets milkshake duct everything is like it goes from no one's heard of this person to this is the most famous person in the world because they said very demure very mindful to like whatever happened to that person you know it's just all so sped up that that's probably part of why it just doesn't feel genuine

00:27:12 - 00:27:32 | Speaker 2:

to you yeah i could definitely i could uh definitely see that i'm looking for um it's probably best that i can't oh shit bad news everybody i found it i was good morning tps students it is testing week and it's time to slay all day stay woke be on fleek and get that gucci

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breakfast goals say bye felicia to that testing stress weather's gonna be turnt right chris yes

00:27:38 - 00:28:03 | Speaker 2:

toledo weather gonna be the lit during testing week a hundo p chance of success you've got this kids steve how about that traffic are we looking okay okay i i'll i gotta call it there i can't even get through it i have it labeled here is news anchors talking cool slang w-t-o-l so i think that was somewhere in ohio did i just hear him mention toledo yeah it must be toledo right the other

00:28:03 - 00:28:34 | Speaker 1:

words everybody's got a word now andrew because this is how you get into the conversation the Economist had a word and it was cockistocracy which is rule of the worst which I don't disagree with but I also don't know if I like that I don't like walking around basically just calling it a cockistocracy because it makes me feel like we've then just we've stopped fighting we've just said yeah we just live in you know we live in a cockistocracy now I'm really confused and I can't

00:28:34 - 00:28:51 | Speaker 2:

tell if this is like that gen alpha thing again i don't know if i'm hearing the word correctly or is this something you've heard a caucus like a catastrophe only a it's spelled with a k i think it might be a greek word okay i've never have you heard of this knew how to i have only like

00:28:51 - 00:29:03 | Speaker 1:

in the last uh only basically since the re-election of donald trump did i start seeing this term going around which is i think an exist you know a word that existed i'm trying to get

00:29:03 - 00:29:07 | Speaker 2:

see if I can... I'm on The Economist now looking at it, yeah. Wow, you actually

00:29:07 - 00:29:09 | Speaker 1:

subscribed to The Economist. Oh, I see.

00:29:09 - 00:29:15 | Speaker 2:

Nope, I just scrolled down and I realized that I am... Well, I'm cock-a-blocked, I guess you might say.

00:29:15 - 00:29:42 | Speaker 1:

Where's that on your list? Hold on, I'm hacking into the mainframe. I'm toasting the quarterback, and I'm here. Nicely done. So, it's, let's see here. For the years defining word, it helps look back a long way. English has a host of political terms derived from Greek because it got a lot of its political thinking from the likes of Plato and Aristotle. Greek has a root for rule, and it's kratia, which is, let's see, I'm trying to get to...

00:29:42 - 00:29:55 | Speaker 2:

Well, I see the definition of it here, just like on the plain old, like, you know, internet... Cacastocracy. Cacastocracy. Cacastocracy. Government by the least suitable or competent citizens of a state.

00:29:55 - 00:31:17 | Speaker 1:

It definitely appears to be what we're heading into. I mean, that's... Yes, indeed. disagree with it but i also there's something about i don't know i i i don't i'm not ready to admit defeat quite yet i mean we lost the election but i'm not willing to uh did i i was at a party recently andrew we we got to thank the donors now we're getting to the end of this but like i was at a party where i was talking to someone who i really like this dude but he's in law enforcement and i don't exactly know his politics and he we were having this whole entire conversation about the election where the whole time i assumed he was someone who was probably who had voted for trump but he's a very thoughtful person he's a smart person and thoughtful person and so i was ready to leave this get together and say to becca hey guess what i can talk to somebody who voted for donald trump and have a civilized conversation and find what our commonalities are and she was like oh no no he completely voted for kamala harris what are you talking about but i was being so delicate because i thought i had like a 40 minute conversation with someone who i thought had voted for donald trump and i didn't want to get overly political but it was impossible to not get into politics and get into you know i would say this person is probably like center right if that makes any sense like they're not probably not center left you see

00:31:17 - 00:31:25 | Speaker 3:

And you're not saying that that was your impression. You still think they are probably center-right, but center-right enough to not vote for Trump.

00:31:25 - 00:32:39 | Speaker 1:

Center-right, but not voting for Trump. Yeah, like centrist. Like centrist, but like, you know, he also said something like some of the people I work with who were really hit super hard by this. And so I held off on sending some of these memes that were like joking about it or that were like basically like I think he's I think he's probably like a heterodox type of dude, if that makes sense. Like probably much more open. like he likes Elon Musk literally he thinks Elon Musk is entertaining right so as we're talking about that stuff I'm like well okay I know where this guy's at and I have this whole conversation where I'm pretzeling myself to try to be like like what I was saying about Trump was I go I really really really hope that he's successful as president like in that I hope that he makes the lives of Americans better and I hope that I hope that we live in a great country that's working as well as he thinks it will work i don't think that's going to happen but i'm not rooting for everything in the country to become horrible like that's not my goal i'm hoping you know but i was doing all this stuff that i thought was a way of showing my disdain for trump without just like completely i don't know isolating this guy and then i get in the car and i find out that there was no i said can you please tell your friend to tell her husband that i the whole time thought he voted for Trump. That's why I was being so weird.

00:32:39 - 00:32:49 | Speaker 3:

I was going to say, I love the counterpoint to this conversation. I love this person getting in the car at the end of the party and being like, wow, Burbank is way more MAGA than I thought.

00:32:49 - 00:33:27 | Speaker 1:

Well, that's the thing. I think I was sort of code switching. I mean, I wasn't MAGA, but I was trying to not talk about it in the way that Becca and I would talk about it, or you and I would talk about it. I was trying to basically talk about it in a way that I was like, okay, this guy and I, we don't see eye to eye on this issue of politics but I've known this guy for a while and he's a very thoughtful person a very again a very like he's he's not when I think of the worst elements of somebody who would vote for Donald Trump this guy doesn't embody that so I was like what I need to do is figure out a way to talk to him and communicate with him that doesn't completely alienate him even though we did different things in this election and in doing that I probably

00:33:27 - 00:33:33 | Speaker 3:

sounded like a MAGA person by the end of the conversation he sounds very demure and that's

00:33:33 - 00:33:44 | Speaker 2:

brain rot thank you for being a tan you know whose brains are perfection not even just not

00:33:44 - 00:34:13 | Speaker 1:

not even the tiniest hint of rot is our donors Andrew their brains are operating on all cylinders despite my best efforts to rot their brains brains are pink and there's great blood flow they make very good decisions like supporting TBTL they're wrinkly as hell too they're so that's a thing that's a great thing the more wrinkles honestly the better you want a brain looks like a damn sharp hay that's right and you know who has one of those natacia brusewitz of moses lake

00:34:13 - 00:34:19 | Speaker 3:

washington we love your brain natacia and we appreciate your donation but you're not just

00:34:19 - 00:34:44 | Speaker 1:

another pretty brain no also smoking hot exactly i went fishing on moses lake when i was a kid andrew yeah and it stayed with me i caught a huge sunfish or somebody in the boat caught a big sun fish and uh we were over there my dad says it's a big sea turtle jay what is that jay what is this katherine mcfadden might know katherine's in portland oregon katherine our old friend

00:34:44 - 00:34:48 | Speaker 2:

katherine mcfadden thank you so much katherine always always special to see your name in the

00:34:48 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 1:

speaking of old friends andrew angie angie dominguez of austin texas long time friend of mine thank you so much angie and friend of mine but more your

00:35:00 - 00:35:03 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I believe we hung out quite a bit in L.A. while you were living somewhere else.

00:35:03 - 00:35:19 | Speaker 1:

Well, you don't know what was happening when you weren't there. Sure. I could have been jetting. I could have been jet-setting in and out. Remember, during the Thon, we got to meet Angie's feller. Chris. And there was an adorable dog involved, too.

00:35:19 - 00:35:39 | Speaker 2:

In fact, Chris has been, and I always forget the name of this, but what do you call that printing that Chris has been experiencing? He's an artist and a photographer, and it's like that leno type. I think I have that wrong. but he it might be he took a photo that Genevieve Leno type it's just all Jay Leno stuff it's Leno it's Leno type yeah I'm a Leno type I'm a Leno type

00:35:39 - 00:35:46 | Speaker 1:

yeah you know yeah yeah that's alright it's my Jay Leno who knew I had a Jay Leno in here Leno on the streets hey that's not bad

00:35:46 - 00:36:14 | Speaker 2:

you gotta do the lisp and the lisp comes naturally to me but Genevieve and I but Genevieve is over the moon on these prints of a photo Genevieve took a photo of Bingo popping his head out of a cardboard box like a year ago or something. And Chris had turned it into these prints for us and sent it to us. And within moments of getting it, Genevieve literally had a frame ready to go and hung it up in our front room. So anyway, thank you, Angie. Thank you, Chris.

00:36:15 - 00:36:38 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, thanks to both of you. Thanks also to Chelsea Davis, who's in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Nice, Chelsea. I know Chelsea from Instagram. Thank you, Chelsea. I was talking to somebody else from West Virginia at the after party of the Philadelphia show. Oh, really? I think we've got a growing West Virginian contingent. I think it's growing to like two people.

00:36:38 - 00:36:41 | Speaker 2:

So that wasn't Chelsea that you were talking to? It wasn't Chelsea. Interesting.

00:36:41 - 00:36:51 | Speaker 1:

Well, that's interesting. Yeah, we've got lots of folks out there in West Virginia. Again, three folks, but we'll take it. Hey, look, it's Julia Morse, who's in Bozarts Village, Washington. Bozarts.

00:36:51 - 00:36:53 | Speaker 2:

Julia, thank you so much.

00:36:53 - 00:37:17 | Speaker 1:

Good old Bozarts Village. We love it. We love to see it. And then we also love to see Oakland, California, the Yaysk area where Darren Malihi is. Darren, if you need an emotional support podcast to curse the name of Major League Baseball, allowing the Oakland Athletics to go to Las Vegas, well, first to go to some other weird place, I think in California, and then go to wherever they're going.

00:37:17 - 00:37:19 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, there's a thing in the high school field or something.

00:37:19 - 00:37:43 | Speaker 1:

Something like that. we are going to I'm I'm already sharpening my grudge even you know in the middle of winter so we are going to be your show we are going to yes yeah yeah we I almost said I almost made a joke that I don't even want to make which was I won't make it okay don't make it how we were good how we were going to be vengeful on Darren's behalf okay well I was you know my friend Gretchen

00:37:43 - 00:37:50 | Speaker 2:

is I think I might have brought this up on the show because I was texting with her possibly during the show my friend Gretchen is a long time A's fan and I was trying really hard

00:37:50 - 00:37:52 | Speaker 1:

to get her to you were trying to talk her out of being a Dodger

00:37:52 - 00:38:38 | Speaker 2:

fan yes okay yeah I did tell you about this so I was trying to get her I had a whole thing I had this whole like almost a deck I don't make decks but I should make a deck to sincerely sincerely PowerPoint yeah like a PowerPoint offer the A's fans a warm welcome if you would consider becoming a Mariners fan like I feel like it's a pretty good fit you know what I mean like not as far as the region is concerned northern california pacific northwest like we're kind of neighbors i mean i'm not saying this to be cruel but you're you're used to heartbreak we're used to heartbreak welcome aboard like going from going to from an a's fan to a dodgers fan especially in this day and age dodgers fan where they're deferring a no a billion dollars artery your arteries are not prepared for

00:38:38 - 00:38:44 | Speaker 1:

it no like and it's just like it's just instant heart attack from just the excitement of that much talent on a team. I feel

00:38:44 - 00:39:06 | Speaker 2:

like it might be tempting to be like, well, if I'm going to choose a new team, why don't I go with, you know, I've been heartbroken for too long as an A's fan. But don't, like, stay in the outhouse with us here in Seattle. I really think that it's a good match for A's fans. Do what you will. I'm here for you, but just know that we Mariners fans are open to your fandom as well. Mariners baseball. Stay in the outhouse.

00:39:09 - 00:39:23 | Speaker 1:

Hey, we got the number three pick in the draft that we weren't supposed to get. That's better than nothing yeah i'm that article never explained how the picks are chosen though well we had the least oh i think probably because we've almost made the playoffs i think it's related to your record but

00:39:23 - 00:39:27 | Speaker 2:

how do you not know though if it's related to your record why was it a surprise for all the execs in

00:39:27 - 00:40:09 | Speaker 1:

the room because it's a drawing so every so this is also how it is in the like the nba so the worse you are the more ping pong balls you have in the lotto machine and and the mariners only missed the playoffs by a couple of games which is their preferred move and so we were probably at the high i'm sure that the playoff teams are maybe not even like if you made the postseason you're probably not in the drawing and then if you miss the postseason the the closer you got to making the postseason the fewer ping pong balls you have down to like the worst team has the most ping pong balls so like the chicago white socks probably had most of the ping pong balls is my theory having not read anything else about this in fact i do you remember

00:40:09 - 00:40:12 | Speaker 2:

where the socks ended up on that list that was a while back i don't but it but that yeah should

00:40:12 - 00:40:17 | Speaker 1:

have been i only read the headline and then sent it to the criminals oh that's right that's right

00:40:17 - 00:40:22 | Speaker 2:

anyway um yes so i do want to wrap up here and just thank everybody for donating to the show

00:40:22 - 00:40:41 | Speaker 1:

thank you for being a 10 yes for sure and thanks for spending this week with us we are going to be back here on monday with more imaginary radio for all of you uh and we're hoping you can join us for that uh in the meantime have yourself a great little weekend we'll see on monday and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all

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