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Hi. Where's Stevie? Um, I don't know, but she will be back in 15 minutes.

What are you doing?

I'm checking the mail. Did you know that you can still get mail?

Yes, I know about mail.

No, but I'm talking about, like, mail mail. Like a little man in a uniform with his satchel full of letters traveling door to door.

Um, that's a mailman. And he comes to your house, you pay him, and he gives you your stuff.

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well all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a thursday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live my name is luke burbank i am your host welcome to my world coming to you from the madrona hill studio perched high above the once again very foggy cloud fog columbia river it is episode 4377 in a collector series let the fun begin looks like the uh the people running the malls in america have figured out how to save the stores in the malls which is for the people who own the malls to just buy all of the stores including

jc penny and forever 21 well i guess i just have my first taste of the filthy side of this business

We'll delve into that. Also, I had kind of a hectic morning, but I chose to take some time to email a reporter for the Spokesman Review, the newspaper in Spokane, to clarify a neighborhood in Los Angeles. I wish I hadn't done that. Because that's how I'm using my time, apparently, on this Thursday, a.k.a. this Blur's Day, because it is a Blur's Day. and we will be doing the Blur's Day messages. And we're gonna talk to this guy, longest training co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He has been, he's floated a number of new nicknames that he wants me to use for him when I introduce him.

Glandrew, Andy Kane, Drool, Supply and Demandrew, Androgynous, Deja Drew, Sippin' on Gin Andrews, Delusions of Grandrew, One Night Standrew, Android, Scooby Dooby Drew, Drewshbag, Drewbacca, you can't handle the Drewth.

Seems like it's going to really slow the beginning of the show down, but I don't know. That's his wish. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Let's get Drewbag out of there, and the rest are golden. Golden, my friend.

It's so funny that you know. By the way, thanks to listener Byron, who sent that to me.

And not copying me on it was great. I was not prepared for that. I love that.

I played you a, I head faked you in the sound check. I played you a drop that I was not going to use so that you would be unprepared for that. But it's funny because when I was putting that into my audio system, I thought, yeah, Drushbag, I don't like that. I actually literally had the thought.

Yes, exactly.

These are fine. I actually cut like two or three other ones out, but I should have cut Drushbag out.

You know, I actually have something I want. I have a really important public service announcement for folks that is very relevant only to today, the 9th of January. So it'll live well in the long tail. But before we get into that, what was I about to say about nicknames? Okay. I just lost my... We don't like church bags. Oh, yes. Thank you. Yeah. You know, I think I used the real version of that word on a show somewhat recently. I don't remember. On our show. Yeah. And, you know, you were there. I guess you know you were there. Allegedly. But, like, just in passing, quickly. And I can't remember exactly if it was last week or two weeks ago. And it wasn't a huge deal. And I remember feeling somewhat weird about using it. And I remember even in the moment, you know how you just have a tiny spark of an idea that just flies by really quickly. And then later on, you might contemplate it.

Come on, you douchebag.

i was thinking about it like i was like wait wasn't that a word that that tbtl used to use a lot in

the radio days but no you guys didn't you have a different version of it or something like that didn't you and Jen douche nozzle yeah man was it that or was it just now we're just making it worse honestly here at the beginning of the show so maybe I don't need to belabor this but I did I guess this started as me maybe apologizing for using sort of a crude you know it's not you know

it's also gendered yeah in a way that's kind of unnecessary right like yeah yeah they they use it the howard stern show a lot and um but howard stern uses it in this way that it might be just like a new york thing but he just yeah he uses the term douche a lot but it's like to describe a person in a way that isn't how i grew up with it like douchebag had a you know a certain connotation when i was a kid and it must be different in seattle than it is in new york

we need to just move on we gotta stop saying no word now we've you've made this happen no But wait, hold on.

You've manifested this term now.

No, no, no, but without saying the word again. We know the word. D-bag, D-bag, that's fine. Yeah, I think that you guys used to say that maybe all the time, because I remember when I was brand new on the show, somebody saying maybe it's time to retire that, some listener or something, and then I shadow banned them. No, but I am interested in, because this is the thing. I don't think it's just a catch-all term for somebody that you're irritated at or something. It's a specific, in my head, you say that about a specific kind of person. And you just said that you identified it with a certain kind of person as a young person. And you feel like Stern is using it for a different kind of person. Can we describe those stereotypes?

He's using it to be like when you as a person are sort of failing at things. You're being, so he'd be like, I grew up, I was a total D. Which I'd never heard it used, I'd never heard a person refer to themselves as the D.

Right, whereas I think you and I probably have the same thing. It's somebody who displays a sort of, it's usually some guy who just displays a lack of class. Always a guy. Always a guy, displays a lack of class.

Which is ironic because it's associated with the female body.

Yes, exactly. But, you know, it's not just anybody that you don't like the looks of. It's somebody who is just sort of like thinks he's cooler than he is but is cooler in this way that seems very de classe to you and I. Yes. I want to start describing the things that this person might wear, but I don't want to make anybody in the audience feel bad if they happen to have a pair of the sunglasses.

Peace and love to our Ed Hardy wearing fan.

If they happen to have a pair of the sunglasses I'm picturing on the back of a hat, then I don't want to insult anybody there. Can I give you a quick PSA, though, that I think is maybe somewhat interesting? Maybe not, but PSA, and again, this is only good for the next, let's see here, about 14 hours, but the post offices are closed today. Today is actually a holiday. It's a day of mourning for Jimmy Carter. You're right, and I thought this was interesting. You and I were, I don't know, in a meeting or doing something. I was looking at my calendar a couple of days ago, and on my Google Calendar, I have it set to show me holidays as well. You know, you can just click a box, and it'll show you all the national holidays. And I noticed, I thought it was kind of interesting, because usually it's just like, you know, whatever, Christmas, Thanksgiving. And then my calendar had updated to specifically say that, like, Jimmy Carter Day is today, the 9th of January. I had the same thing happen in my Outlook calendar. Kind of interesting, right?

Like, day of morning was added to the whole thing. Now, that's a new experience, right? Yes. Yeah. And I want to say, like, you know, people that work for the post office, I'm actually very friendly with my postal worker here. She's awesome. And so, you know, give them a day off. Honestly, they deserve it. But I don't feel like they're spending it in quiet reflection on the life and times of Jimmy Carter.

Or any of us. Of course, I did give a little tribute today. Me and Genevieve both crashed and burned on Wordle today. And so I did put in the text. So it's a day of mourning for that as well. This is not what Jimmy Carter would have wanted. But I went to the – because this is related to TBTL a little bit too. So I went to the post office today for the first time in a while. Tried to. I'm sorry, not today. Yesterday. I went to the post office yesterday for the first time in a while. I had been going to the post office almost like a couple of times a week in October and November, I think, because some of the TBTL gifts had been kind of bouncing back for various reasons. you know people move you know stuff that we're sending out for the tb telethon so i've been sort of collecting them resending them out and so i sort of had this kind of routine of going to the post office grabbing those things that bounce back coming home like relabeling them sending them back out blah blah just rinse and repeat right um but then once december hit and we were starting to creep up to actual holiday times i said i'm going to chill out on the post office for a while the lines are getting much longer as people are getting ready to send their gifts you And I'm like, I can just chill out on this project for a little bit, and then I'll come back. after the holidays well i finally went back yesterday and i had not realized that of course our wonderful wonderful tens upon tens of listeners have been sending in tens upon tens of holiday greetings for us our large sized p.o box was literally almost overflowing with joyous greetings and and little packages and gifts i have not opened them yet i wanted to thank everybody for sending those to us, and apologies for not thanking you sooner. It's not leaking. It's overflowing. There was none of that. It was all good stuff. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to sort out, there's some stuff in there for you, there's some stuff for John. I will try to ship those to you guys respectively, maybe.

I'll be up in Seattle on February 4th to do that Chris Hayes thing. So maybe we can do the show live from your place. So that's a big reveal.

You landed the gig. Well, because you didn't want it well i was a little nervous about it i mean first they reached out to phyllis

yes then they reached out to you and then uh eventually they said well we'll have burbs do it

well let me ask you this we're just gonna have this conversation on the air should i buy tickets because these and i are planning on going or i'm going are my two friends who are on the stage can

they get me in or should i support i'm going to flex i'm guessing that chris does not i certainly don't get any remuneration for this and i'm guessing chris doesn't either um i'm going to go ahead and flex and say i'll put you both on the list thank you i but views and i were literally

talking about that last night because literally don't buy tickets because i was like well i don't want to be like you know if you're supporting somebody um who's you know like you want to support your friends i don't think that chris is dying to get my whatever it costs five dollars to get in or something like that.

You mean because he donates a significant portion of money to this show every year?

It seems so awful, but Genevieve's like, wait, you're going to buy tickets? Like, you know Chris? I'm like, yeah, but you just, I don't know. I just always feel weird about that shit. So I thought maybe it would be less awkward

if I asked you publicly on the show to a show that Chris is listening to. If you guys could pool your resources and sneak me and Genevieve in a side door.

I'm going to go ahead and say, I'm going to put you on my guest list. I don't know what Chris does with his guest list. That's his business.

Is your camera, is your screen on right now? Can you see how red I am talking about this? You actually, you know what? I am beet red embarrassed talking about this. And you kind of are.

I've never noticed this, but your sort of color has changed.

I'm literally so embarrassed right now about that conversation.

The point is, I could come to your house, and you could just hand me those nice, nice things that the listener sent us.

No joke. This is a huge, this is huge for me. I've been waiting. it's been a while since you've been over here and um there is a package i think i mentioned this to you off air and i believe it's from listener mike it's been living in my head because you said it's really cool i it's so listen to the story of this package which is not in front of me right now but it's in a it's in a safe closet there's no lock on the door but i think it's safe bingo's been eyeing the door but he also doesn't have foams so i think we're good but uh my i'm saying mike but it might be michael i think he goes by michael um actually i'm gonna go yeah he emailed me i don't know over a year ago about maybe a year and three months ago and said hey like how come you guys haven't opened the package i sent yet it's pretty cool or whatever and i'm like i have not gotten this and and he's like well i sent it in uh you know a long time ago and he told me what's inside of it and it sounds pretty cool it's for you it's not for me but he sent it to the po box which is here in seattle and he's like well can you go check again there's the routing number it says it made it to the post office i'm like that's fine and then i remembered there was a moment when if somebody sends a package to us that is too big to fit in the po box i get a little pink slip of paper that is like it's almost like uh the slip that would be put in the back of a library book

back in the day i occasionally get those at my own mailbox here oh do you which is very sad because that's how infrequently i check my mail so every once in a while go to the post office and pick

post office and pick something up yeah yeah and this one will like it'll have like the p.o. box number of the person before me that they used the slip for they're reusing these slips so by the time i get it's like at a million cross outs on it and it's just a very well-worn piece of pink paper or cardboard in my p.o. box and i have to wait in line and get it and when michael was telling me that this package is apparently lost i remembered taking that pink slip to a postal worker several weeks or a month earlier and giving it to them and she went and looked and looked and came back and says i can't find it and she just took the pink slip and i'm like well and i don't you never know what the pink slip represents it just represents some sort of package and she said well i i don't have it i'm like well what do you mean you don't have a package for me yeah and so then when michael's writing in saying well why don't you why didn't you receive this

Thank you.

thing i'm like i don't know but i'm starting to think maybe that's what was lost so anyway that was well over a year ago i went into the post office i don't know maybe in october and i give them a different pink slip and they bring out a couple of boxes including michael's lost box from over a year ago i even pointed to the date i was like where did this come from and the postal workers like it was back there you had the slip i'm like no look this is from a year ago this is a package that's been missing for a year where was he's like oh it was just back there so anyway i'm excited that knowing that i cannot understand how this institution is failing right the failing u.s postal service so all of that is to say i don't know if that narrative really made sense it made sense in my mind but there's this package that listener michael was pretty bereft that's too strong of a word was pretty bummed that you did bereft is on the day of jimmy carter's Well, we haven't opened the box. We don't know what's in there. Well, he told me. Oh, okay. Was that a seven joke? What's in the box? No, it could be cremains. Yeah, right. Exactly.

We could be in bereft territory.

It could be bereft territory. So anyway, I'm very excited, and I'm too nervous to reship it to you because it already got lost in the mail once. So if you're coming over here on February, what is that, the 4th? Yes. February the 4th. Big day. May the 4th of February be with you. You will open that up. And, Michael, it better be good. I'm trying to get Chris.

Oh, by the way, speaking of just airing out our production plans on the air, I also asked Chris if he wanted to stop by your house to do the show, and he said he's going to try. How do you feel about that? I feel like I need to vacuum. That was the exact thought I had was, I'm inviting a major television star over to Andrew and Genevieve's house without clearing it with Andrew. I'll try to empty. It's TBD on that. It has to do with his travel schedule,

but we're we're efforting towards that great well i will try to empty my waste paper basket here in my office and do whatever else i can to to um prepare the i will should i kill the fatted calf or hold off on that no no you know me i don't eat only if you do it ethically okay i only eat

ethically killed fatted calf and i only uh take time out of my morning to send an email to a reporter for the spokesman review regarding glass l park in los angeles um by the way uh thank you for uh being patient with me this morning i had some scheduling stuff so we dialed up a little bit late but um a little before that uh when i was still kind of hustling around this morning for some reason i was reading an article in the colombian which is the the newspaper down here for i don't think it's not based in vanc is it based in vancouver maybe it is anyway it's the it's the the local paper of record and i i love it i wish they had more staff and more original reporting but you know trying to support them and i was reading an article in the colombian by way of the spokesman review so it was an article written in the spokesman which is the spokane newspaper about notable graduates of gonzaga university who are dealing with the wildfires in los angeles so this is a real bank shot it's a reporter in spokane trying to find a local angle on the fires in LA republished in the Colombian, the Daily Colombian read by Luke Burbank this morning and there was a reference to a producer who went to Gonzaga who now lives in LA and was out of town, or maybe an actor actually and they were filming something in New Mexico but they were getting ready, they were having their partner sort of pack up their stuff, they were getting ready to evacuate their house in Glasser Park and I was like nope not a place it's Glassell Park and I went and I found the email of the reporter in the spokesman review and I emailed her and I said I think and as I was writing this email I was really trying to run it through the filter of when we get corrections you know and like tonally what kind of like works for us versus doesn't work for us and I was really trying to like turn down the like pedantic meter so you start with your welcome sir i'm just getting

over this cough i actually like that it really adds a lot to your character the sort of like

the lukey the sailor man yes uh but no spinach um uh yeah so i know i was trying to really like not be like um well actually or you're welcome or whatever but i just said i think you might be i think you might have meant to write uh or maybe the the neighborhood is is glass cell park not glasser park and i actually double checked it before i sent the email because there might be a glasser park i'm not familiar with um and i sent it to this reporter and within one second this reporter responded oh you're right thanks oh nice good so it was a i think it was a good interaction so if you're reading an article in the spoke

spokesman review today about notable gonzaga graduates who uh who are in los angeles and you see the word glassel park you've got this guy to thank for it you're not reading glasser park

have you and i'm trying to do this on the fly um have you looked to see if it's been updated updated on the website i did not i did not check one of those games gonzaga wins fourth in a row 93 to 80 over san diego i don't think that's it um let's see here coaches send thoughts to la county residents i think this might be it here gla coaches uh it's the headline that i thought one week after traveling on pacific coast highway gonzaga players coaches send thoughts to la county residents impacted by fires but it seems like that's not it either i will get off trying to

By the way, this, I mean, I just want to say to our listeners that are in Los Angeles and may be affected by this, we are thinking about. Yes, this is an insane thing that is happening down there. It is. And it's it's absolutely apocalyptic. And, you know, I'm a Los Angeles apologist. I really love that city. And I had such a great time there and love a lot of people down there. and this kind of weird it's a it's a corner of the internet but this kind of idea that like because it's Los Angeles or because some of the people may have had you know really wonderful homes that we don't feel bad for them this this idea that it's like somehow people are not feeling not expressing they're almost being like well you know serves your right or something it's really it's kind of upsetting to me because it's like you know again I've reached out to over one ex-wife In the last 24 hours Making sure that my old house in LA I should say her house Is okay, she's okay She's on the edge of having to evacuate Actually, but like It's a really, really upsetting thing down there And the idea that anybody would Think it's like, well, la la land, who cares Or it's Pacific Palisades or whatever That really bums me out because a lot of people are really Hurting down there

Yeah, you know, weirdly, except for some Errant tweet from like donald jr i haven't seen anybody sort of like luckily i've been sort of shielded from that sort of attitude i didn't realize that that's sort of a sort of an approach people are taking towards this story because like it's probably because i lived down there for a very short period of time a lot of the people in my instagram feed are people either in la or with la connection so i'm just seeing a lot of either first person stories of just saying i am evacuated and waiting or I'm hearing from people who are just, like, sending their love, but also saying, but I'm watching this. You know, there's something, you probably are not surprised to hear this. Like, there's something about these stories that involve, like, major disasters. I realize as I'm saying that I'm quoting one of our oft-used drops.

It was literally a major disaster. But I wasn't trying to.

You know who that is, by the way? Wait, hold on. Yes, I do. Hold on. It was literally a major disaster. Wait, yes, I do. I do. I know what that's from. It's literally a major disaster. Yeah, it's Yo-Yo Man, right? Is it Mark Strauss? Yes.

Mark Prokish? Yes, yes, yes. Approach?

Yes. Do you know the context of that particular drop?

It's something, it's not from Yo-Yo Man, and is it from what we do in the shadows? It could be. I don't know. He's talking about, like, they're having some kind of, like, important family meeting, and he goes something like, yesterday's breakfast was literally a major disaster.

I don't I can't I can't I don't know that I've ever seen the source I only know your drop but I

could hear the voice in my head I think he's like a stepdad who's trying to get real with his kids

or something okay anyway I'm gonna stop guessing on that I was just to complete my thought which doesn't really need completing is there's something I don't know if I purposely do this or subconsciously do this but like I've been following the story and I'll read a story here there and then I'll see people's like sort of like concern on Instagram but I usually do not dig deep into the sort of kind of disaster coverage of it if that's the right term and I feel like it's not what I'm saying here is like I was having dinner with Genevieve last night and she said have you seen all of the images coming out of there and I was like honestly no and it's not and I don't feel like I'm not following the story I'm following the story of the fires and kind of have a general sense of kind of the directions they're coming from and again we have friends down there who are literally like leaving their homes and having to make incredibly tough decisions um but like when people usually say to me have you seen all the images coming out of this story or that story i don't know what i'm doing wrong or right but the answer to that is usually no like i haven't been like kind of watching a lot of video and i feel like maybe i don't think it's this deep but maybe i'm psychologically protecting myself from that stuff i don't really know. Interesting. Yeah, because I feel like you're like Genevieve. You're probably seeing tons of stuff, right? Well, I think because it... It's it's a lot of people are posting stuff on Instagram and I guess on tick-tock and also I think I have pretty I have more like a Los Angeles connections than I Probably would think I have and in terms of just like people in my social circle and friends of mine who live there and again various exes so So yeah, I've been seeing a lot of it, and it is just I mean I was sitting in my house last night, and I was just thinking like What would I do if there was a fire just like burning up this hill? coming towards my house, and there was nothing I could do about it. I mean, and this is a thing that people in LA, again, in neighborhoods that I've spent a lot of time in, that they've been dealing with, and that they, you know, have had to sort of figure out, what do you want to bring from your house? I was thinking last night, like, what would I grab? I'm still relatively new to this house, so there's not, and I've just lived here alone, So I don't it's not like, you know, my kids, you know, have their, you know, whatever soccer trophies or things around here. But it's like I was just kind of thinking, what would I grab from my house if I had to, if I was going to be able to take an armful of things out? And what would what would you take?

That's an interesting question. I was just thinking, for whatever it's worth, while I buy myself some time, I turned on the radio yesterday and sort of caught. maybe it was near the beginning but sort of midstream just kind of a a woman i guess recording sort of like an audio postcard for all things considered or something along those lines it was just her talking about her process of evacuation this particular time but it sounds like she might have been through it before because she was also sort of giving advice to people but then also getting choked up and talking about how you got to go around your house you got to choose these things and you also she said you have to go around your house with a camera with your cell phone camera and record everything to go slowly for insurance purposes it was it was both I know I it sounds like I'm making it sort of sound clinical but she was like sort of giving advice but it was also incredibly emotional she says you're not going to be prepared for how hard that is to do but it is going to make your life easier if you are not able to come back to your house I've done this before I'm don't know if I will be coming back here it was an incredible I wish I had the person's name my apologies for not having it I didn't know I'd be bringing it up but it was incredibly incredibly um impactful really did put you there having said that i don't know exactly what i would grab or do i mean obviously i know this sounds i mean i the computers obviously have a lot of stuff stored on them a lot of very bad stuff that i would have to leave behind and hope that the fires consume and i can finally be cleansed um no obviously like i think i would i would you know like the tbtl archives are on my computers and hard drives and stuff like that like i feel like i mean they also they also live elsewhere they are in the cloud like but i do think that i would say okay i have to grab that stuff because there's like there's memories on some of these you know on some of my stuff so it's almost like the equipment you know we do still have because these and i are right at that age where we you know have shoe boxes of photos and in actual photo albums that we were sort of keeping in fact we just stumbled on some recently that we're flipping through from the earlier um the early years of our relationship with hanging out with friends in in boston and new hampshire and uh like there are no digital records of those um so i'd probably grab those as well i mean those are the things that are irreplaceable right like aside from me and genevieve and the cats i guess i think first about like photos and anything that is sort of connected to memories that cannot be recreated i don't think

i would go with monetary value first yeah i think that's i think that's what a lot of people and again i've weirdly watched like a number including the comedian whitney cummings who was from escape from friend city that's the one i was thinking of i was almost tempted to grab some of this audio because she's in her podcast studio in her house and she's very emotional but she's also saying a lot of stuff about podcasting so like my little you know antenna goes up if i think oh this is an audio drop we could use but it felt disrespectful but anyway she was in her podcast studio in her house really really emotional just kind of like going through like what she was going to grab and it was like stuff that her listeners had sent her um you little mementos and things like that as opposed to, like you said, anything that's particularly valuable from a monetary standpoint. I think it's just little weird stuff that is not replaceable. And obviously photographs. I saw some footage of firefighters carrying photo albums out of people's houses, which is just like, what a kindness. Like you know in the midst of all of this disaster and danger and things just be like We can't save this house, but we know these people are going to want to have these photos if they can, you know. So I guess, by the way, that's a strong argument for the future that we live in, which is, you know, if my phone burns up, my photos aren't dead.

Yeah, because they upload to the cloud. You know, I hesitate to bring this up because I don't know exactly where I'm going with this. But again, going back to that piece I heard on NPR yesterday from the woman who was talking.

by the way that's a really props to whoever produced that at npr that was a really good idea for a really moving idea for a piece of uh tape related to this yeah you know what

maybe um later on in the show i'll see i don't want to try to google and tell this at the same time but maybe i'll try to identify what that was that i heard so people can find it and listen to it because i thought it was like really really compelling and again it was such a combination of both like helpfulness and information and and emotion and really putting you there um but one of the things that she mentioned and a whole bunch of things that she was talking about was she also said you know i think she was she had already evacuated so she's recording this um after that and she's talking about the experience of evacuating this time and she mentioned she kind of gave a a thank you to the police officers who were helping i'm thinking of this because you mentioned the fire fighters who were carrying the albums and she was thanking the the police officers because she said it was there were a bunch of police officers on foot who were maintaining the slow moving traffic that was leaving i don't know what area she was in by the way i missed the beginning of this but um whatever area and it sounds like maybe they were going down a hill or something there was a long long line of slow moving cars of people trying to evacuate and she said i was really appreciative of the police being there to keep everybody in line because otherwise people would be trying people were trying to kind of get out of line and sort of i mean she didn't use the word cut but essentially like cut right and i that probably spoke to me because i'm such a rule follower and i always get mad when people are kind of breaking the rules but then you're

like i love the idea of you in your car melting as the fire envelops you but you're like but i'm

not cutting right exactly because that is sort of what i'm getting at like you're these are people who are you know it i don't know the actual scenario but like essentially running for their lives in a certain way. Right. And so at what point you but you also need to maintain order because if it just becomes chaos and and just sort of a stampede of cars, you know, that that's not going to be helpful for anybody either. And I just sort of thought, like, imagine that. Imagine me being, you know, peeved when somebody like kind of cuts me off in traffic here in Seattle when everything is just normal. But then you're like trying to like orderly leave and there's so much emotion and then somebody else is trying to kind of swerve around you so they can get out of the way first but then you're like well that person is also just trying to do what they can for them and the people in their car as well you know so anyway

that just sort of stood out by the way I think the person you're thinking of was named um Adria Cloak okay great who was interviewed on all things considered a Pacific Palisades resident oh interesting

I wonder if they interviewed her and then just cut out the interviewer because it seemed it was one of those things that seemed incredibly personal it had the it had the feel of somebody just recording it by themselves like in their

closet or in a car or something yeah yeah it says uh the this is ari shapiro's intro to it um she works this person works for uh kcrw oh okay that's why she's such a good almost a colleague of yours yeah sure okay and uh she sent us this voice memo describing her uh evacuation experience

okay great so that you you identified the right one and it also explains why this was so i mean not that anybody's personal experience can't be compelling but it was just like so well told you know so clearly somebody who is in the profession of telling stories that's probably why this stood

out well i i started to ask this but we already know the answer which is you didn't so uh you did not see this like bulldozer oh i did clearing luxury vehicles that had been left in on sunset boulevard that's one of the few things that i did see and i asked if i'm like and i was like i think it was on sunset what stage of capitalism are we in but okay bulldozer clearing mercedes benzes that have been abandoned because of to some degree climate change it was so it was so

bizarre and i remember saying to viz over dinner because i don't think genevieve had seen that one i said well did you see the bulldozer and i was like i think it was sun i think it was on sunset and then we looked at each other like no i must be misremembering that that could have but it was right on sunset that they were bulldozing those cars my god insane i mean just again

and i hope i don't i don't sound glib about it because this is real people's real lives i'm not that worried about the people with the 150 000 cars that were getting bulldozed i'm not worried about their car i'm worried about them i hope they're okay i am not worried about their car but i mean that is just an insane visual yeah It really was. It just, I feel like, I don't want to spin out of control. 2025 has had two incredibly insane visuals already, and we're only nine days in. And again, somebody lost their life, somebody took their life, but that Tesla, I'm sorry, the truck, the cyber truck burning outside of Trump Tower, you're like, wow, we're one day into this, and we have this very darkly iconic image that sort of seems to, in some ways represent the times and now and then you have a bulldozer going down sunset boulevard

bulldozing expensive cars you know can i give you my my thought on the coverage of that by the way those cyber trucks look like they're from minecraft that's what i finally landed the angles there's something kind of digital about them in a way that's uncanny but um the thing i don't love about the coverage is it did happen in front of the Trump you know hotel in Las Vegas but I get mad every time that's referenced because I feel like it feeds into this persecution complex like it's somehow this is about Trump or Trump is somehow under threat like in the way I forget where I was but I was somewhere in the country before the election and I saw this like actually very well made sort of like sign someone had put up oh I think I might have well anyway I forget where I was but it was literally like he took a bullet for you like and it was like the photo of Trump after the guy like you know tried to shoot him and missed and it was I was just like this says everything like these people took a huge amount of time out of their week to create this huge like i don't know five foot by five foot sign thing that they put in their yard with a photo of trump you know this picture where after he was you know almost shot and uh and it was he took a bullet for you and i was just like uh that's when i should have known maybe we weren't going to win but um anyway this idea that like people are after trump in a violent dangerous way it bugs me that he did this in front of the trump hotel because i think it and this is just my this is just my oversensitivity on the matter but i just feel like it somehow lets it makes people who think trump is some sort of like uh you know messianic figure it somehow file they file it under yeah they're blowing up things in front of his hotel that's interesting you know i hadn't i

hadn't thought of it in that way and like i say i maybe i'm i keep saying this and maybe i'm just making excuses for not having good um reading comprehension but like i sort of i am sort of sort of kind of like reading the news through my fingers these days like everything just sort of feels icky and bad and I'm just trying like sort of getting glancing impressions of things and again maybe I'm just always been just not great at reading the news I don't know but all of that is to say I hadn't thought of it in that context because you know my exposure to that story is whenever it was like early breaking news first you have this and I'm not I'm not getting on bored with this either but you have this sort of like almost gleeful before people knew what was going on with that story this sort of gleeful look at this look at this cyber truck on fire right outside of trump tower like from the left right more of this sort of like yeah could you have a more like 2025 moment at 2025 moment in fact that's why we're talking about this right now is because i sort of raised that in sort of in this context um but then of course we we hear more and there was i did not know at first i think a lot of the people who were posting that kind of sentiment didn't know either that there was a person inside there that it was done on purpose that this you know we now know a little bit about this person and what this person wrote and that it was you know in intended to end his life um but and i never until this very moment talking to you now i'm trying to square that with the location again have we had any clarification about why this former soldier decided to do that was there anything in his notes and i'm sorry that the show is so dark but while we're here am i missing a part of that story now i don't think

so i've i've seen a headline that said basically they interviewed people that he you know he was in the military and they interviewed people he had served with and nobody remembered him saying anything uniquely anti-donald trump so uh the headline was like uh you know guy who blew up Cybertruck in front of Trump Hotel did not harbor anti-Trump sentiment. I think he was somebody who was dealing with a mental health crisis and somehow in his mind, I do for some reason I like that he rented the Cybertruck I don't know why that detail is important to me but it's like, good, at least you didn't go spend $150,000 on this and then blow it up at least it's on Avis's, this is Avis's problem now to deal with I don't know why that matters to me yeah now that we're just talking about this I guess that's that's what I was trying to square there with you but I guess we just don't have answers and these things are not you know these things don't have necessarily always clean answers but it's so yeah I rented a very specific truck that represents something in our society right now and then I blew it up outside I mean I

don't think that was an accident yeah neither one of those are accidents yet

he has not we haven't read anything about like manifestos or anything like that other than his own personal struggles so i was wasn't sure if i was missing a key part of no no i don't think you are i think it was we just don't know it's just it was very intentional

and yet nobody has a good explanation for what exactly his kind of theories were and maybe he doesn't maybe he didn't have any cogent theories about it here's my question to you importantly critically if you were at the avis and they said good news mr walsh um we uh we've upgraded you to a cyber truck would you no no not even just out of curiosity because like they're supposedly actually pretty fun to drive i'm i've never driven one i will never buy one but i would be i guess if it was offered to me some part of my brain would be curious about the experience of driving one

i have been i mean i don't think this is an exaggeration i feel like i have been a passenger in large suvs and have tried to shield my face from other drivers because not even musk related

automotive experience just like i'm just being in a canyon arrow kills i feel like there was a

I feel like there was a moment where somebody was visiting, like, a family member or something, and they rented a Canyon Arrow, basically. And, you know, maybe it even made sense because we were, I think, whatever, we were kind of taking a local road trip with some people who were visiting the Pacific Northwest or something. And I just remember, you know, or being at a gas station and getting out of this thing because I have, and probably back in this part of my life, too, was even maybe more judgmental. And so, therefore, felt like everybody was judging me or something. So I think it would be – now that you say it from a technological standpoint, what is it like to be behind the wheel of that thing? And what is it like to press the gas pedal? I guess now you have piqued my curiosity a little bit. But I'd have to be on like one of those closed circuit tracks and everybody signs NDAs. And I have to take everybody's – You'd be wearing a balaclava as you go in. Yes, and I take everybody's phone and I put them in one of those magnetic bags. You'd be Luigi Mangione. Wait, what is that?

in what way does that well if we can make it darker he's the guy that is alleged to have shot the united healthcare ceo i know but why oh you mean just well just that he was constantly masked

oh that's right his mask yes yes i wasn't sure why you're invoking him there but um uh but anyway yeah i would be like you're right i guess there is technologically something interesting about well what is it like like when you step on that pedal like what is it what is it like but uh i don't think like in the scenario you set up like i'm just like the rental car place or whatever this new mobile rental thing is where he rented it from if they gave me that car like i just don't think i could just be like okay yeah i'll give it a shot and then also like i have to park that the qfc to go run in and grab my prescription you know i think i would well this is weird that

you're renting a car but you're also getting prescription medications well what is this

it's a long trip i need to make sure that i have a lot of very intense meds that you need to take

every hour yeah exactly um but uh i think i've now talked myself into actually taking the the cyber truck if i'm offered it at the avis because renting a car is like watching tv in a hotel it's not your real life so i think i could i could allow myself to because i'm it's this is not real luke i'm not you know i'm not purchasing this vehicle i'm not using it to get around town i'm i'm in i'm in a sort of vacation mode or a work mode i'm not being my real self and therefore

i'm allowed to drive a cyber truck let me ask you this though how do you deal let's assume i don't know how many middle fingers per mile that's a good point these cyber truck people are receiving

i want to i mean honestly every time i see one i want to fight the person who's driving it and i

sort of feel like that's what you know that when people see a cyber truck they take a picture of themselves giving it the middle finger right so if you're driving let's say let's say you're um oh god by the way when you're up here on the on the 4th of february do not rent a cyber truck and park it outside my house okay i mean if you rent a cyber truck you got to park in a couple of houses

away that hadn't occurred to me but that would be a great bit chris and i roll up in a cyber truck

least oh my god roll up in the cyber truck to town hall two cyber trucks and then we just like

We parked them kind of in a really, really jaunty way in front of your house. So they're taking up more than one space. Like, you know, in a manner that says, like, we are narcissists.

No, just drive them both. You know, you're absolutely right, by the way. I'm so embarrassed that I said one Cybertruck. No, you each have a Cybertruck. Take out your hedge with them. You each have a Cybertruck, but you got to drive them and park them in Town Hall. Like, so all of the people who are there to hear Chris talk. but then you park each of them not even the right way but you park them across reserved parking

spots exactly yeah just like ideally um uh like handicapped parking yeah exactly exactly but i'm gonna need you and genevieve to buy those tickets because this cyber truck ain't you know that's a

good point i'll actually i'll throw an extra a couple of quarters into the into the jar too but um yeah you but anyway my question for you was let's say that you you're renting it because remember you did rent a car up here one time and they gave you a huge suv do you remember that you drove it to my house it was a whole it was sort of a whole thing i think we took some photos oh and i was living in the place that was like in roosevelt with much harder parking you know and a bike lane outside our house and you had that gigantic truck if you're driving to my house and people are giving you the middle finger in your cyber truck i could see you getting sort of defend i can see you almost leaning i can see you can see me buying a cyber truck to prove them That's your Joker moment. Yes. Next thing you know, you're becoming, because you wouldn't, even though you would usually associate with the people.

You come out of your house, and I'm just dancing my way down a staircase.

In the rain. You're asking me why I'm so serious. But anyway, yeah, I could sort of see you being defensive about the people who are giving you the middle finger. I could see myself doing that, too.

Like, going from, like, oh, this is a funny bit, to, like, you don't know me. How dare you? To being like, you know, Andrew, I think Elon Musk makes some really good points.

Yeah, right, exactly. All right, well, I think I'm possibly responsible for some pretty sketchy content on today's show.

Should we thank some donors because this Cybertrunk ain't going to pay for itself?

Yeah, we better. Hope we have more than six today. Thank you for being a 10.

All right, let's thank those fine, fine, generous donors who are keeping TBTL rolling with their voluntary donation of cash to us. This is a listener-supported project, TBTL. We don't have any commercials because we are better than the other shows that have commercials. And also no one has asked us if they could advertise on the show.

That's not true. We've turned down several advertisers.

We have actually, you know what, we have turned down some ads. That is true. I should be clear about that I'm listening to a lot I was telling you the other day about I'm listening to some stuff on Pushkin and then also I'm listening I listened to the first season of this show Cement City which is really good by the way highly recommend but it's an Odyssey production which is like Odyssey spelled A-U like audio

yeah they're connected to one of the huge radio

I think they own most of the radio stations Are they like the new like Cumulus or, you know, who are these other who are these other big entities who bought up all the radio stations?

Entercom was Entercom Entercom. Oh, yeah, I used to work for Entercom. Did you? Yeah.

I think Cairo was Entercom for a hot minute. Yeah, that rings a bell before my time.

Maybe. Maybe. Although this is Odyssey, previously known as Radio.com is a free broadcast Internet radio platform developed by Odyssey, formerly known Luke as Entercom.

I love that Radio.com wasn't working for them. So they went from Intercom to they were like, okay, let's just call it what it is, Radio.com. And they were like, we're not getting, people don't understand what this product is. Let's rename it Odyssey.

Odyssey, yes. I literally cannot keep these. Everybody's buying everybody, and I can't tell what's going on. Anyway.

All that is to say, when I'm on my jogs and I'm listening to Cement City and I hear a Carvana ad, Andrew, on Odyssey, formerly Radio.com. I am so glad that we have people like Bernie Schneider who's in Grafelling, excuse me, Greffelfing, Germany? Grafelfing, you could have been there over the holidays. I bought my way to 100K status this year and I did not have to fly to Greffelfing, Germany. Although if I'd known Bernie was there, I might have considered it.

Yeah, thanks for donating, Bernie. I always wonder a little bit about the journey that brought Bernie to TBTL. The Bernie journey? The Bernie journey. Was Bernie listening in Germany? Is Bernie an expat, a U.S. expat?

I'm guessing Bernie grew up in Ballard, and Bernie's life has taken him to Germany, and he's just brought TBTL along in his pocket. I can't imagine somebody growing up in Grefell.

germany and then being like let me try to find this extremely boutique product that is tbtl i

don't know though we did put up that billboard right in graffle graffle i mean honestly and

you and john said that was a terrible idea but no look steadfast dividends luke it's paying thank you thank you bernie for justifying that expenditure we appreciate you also look who it is it's bet mackle wreath out there in springville new york it's our buddy bet bet in upstate new

I hope your eye is doing better. I was going through some voicemails today, and Bette said that she has recently taken to sleepwalking and banged her face. I'm sorry I don't have it queued up, but she was saying she can associate with your eye issues that you were having with your stye because now she's having to wear a lot of concealer. And I think it's okay for me to say this. She left this information on the TBTL listener line, but I hope you're doing okay up there, Bette. Luke, how is your eye doing?

Well, it's getting smaller, the sty, but it's very red. So I'm wondering, yeah, if this is just going to be like my constant companion because it's definitely going in the correct direction in that it's getting smaller in size, but it is not changing in color at all. It is still very red, and I still have to put concealer on it if I'm doing any kind of filming stuff. But it is it's it's more easily concealed than it was when I was, let's just say, interviewing Nikki Glaser before the Golden Globes, a story that somehow really reverberated through the pop culture. A lot of people reaching out to me, a lot of people very excited that I got to talk to her. And of course, it was the story where I have a humongous growth on my eyelid while interviewing her.

Did you so you were uncomfortable with the way it looked on screen at the end?

They did their absolute best. My buddy Scott, our cameraman, he used whatever filter he could to try to diminish it. I also noticed that before we did the shoot that if I was, like, smiling, if I was, like, smiling or being kind of exuberant with my face, it, like, did something with my eyelid that made the stye less noticeable.

Oh.

So the whole interview, I'm going, like.

Oh, you noticed it during the recording. I knew it going in. Oh, I see.

So it was like probably Nikki Glaser, to the degree that she remembers any of this, which I bet she doesn't, was like, boy, that guy is really exuberant. And I was just like, I'm trying to hide this guy.

Oh, well, that's better than hiding this guy by being a grumpy puss. By being withholding or something. Yeah, exactly.

But you can see in all the cutaways, I'm being like, ah. I'm really turning in a real Keith Morrison style of interview. He's the guy from Dateline who kind of famously has these weird cutaways. But anyway, Bette, hope your eye is okay. and good luck with the sleepwalking. I don't know what's going on with Catherine Herman in Chicago, Illinois, outside of just being a wonderful, generous TBTL supporter. Have you been getting any voicemails from Catherine?

Catherine did not check in, but I don't hold that against Catherine. Chicago is a big city. It's the third largest city in the United States. There's a lot going on, and Catherine is trying to drink it all in, so doesn't have time to leave voicemails on the TBTL.

Catherine's got time to donate to TBTL and not much else. That's right. Outside of... We'll take it. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Also, it's our pal Maggie Ainsley in Swarthmore, PA. What up, Maggie?

I also heard a voicemail from Maggie today. Thank you for calling in, Maggie. Also about sleepwalking? It wasn't about sleepwalking.

We're only accepting voicemails about sleepwalking.

And that is why I'm not playing it for you now. I can't... But Maggie was just, I think, checking in and happy with some of the holiday programming.

Nice. so nice to see maggie at the philadelphia yeah i wish we could have kicked it more maggie i'm sorry

i do maggie's one of those people who calls in a lot so i feel like i know maggie better than i actually do and then i finally had a chance to hang out with her but you had to give me covid

luke you decided to fake having covid i had to see exactly you could be up in the up in the rafters of the uh friendship center there thanks maggie thanks also to kendra peterson in seattle washington Thank you, Kendra. I don't think I talked to Kendra after the Philly show, but only because Kendra wasn't there.

No, but I am often walking around Seattle, Kendra, just looking for tens to talk to.

Look for a guy with a backpack and big headphones on who's recently been in a scuffle at the grocery store. I went to the grocery store. Andrew's going to be your guy.

I went to the grocery store, that same grocery store, recently. I hadn't been in a while.

We really haven't unpacked this.

No, we haven't.

Just the short version, are you using that grocery store and are things okay?

I use it very infrequently now because I kind of have bad feelings. They opened up a brand new grocery store in my neighborhood. I was very excited until the security guy at the door keeps stopping me because he keeps saying that I can't take a backpack. in there and the reason i need a backpack is because i'm walking to the grocery store and

it's easier to carry groceries home in a backpack that was all part of the process yeah it was all

part of this grocery store and so we've had like now two negative interact two things that i would describe as negative interactions and then you had mentioned to me luke um that maybe what i should do is take my backpack and put it like take my empty backpack put it inside of a tote bag which i'm allowed to take in the grocery store and just carry the tote bag in tote bag in when i get done grocery shopping put the groceries into my backpack and leave now I haven't tried that exact thing but I've been planning on doing that at some point having said that I happened to be in my car the other day and I was passing the grocery store and I realized oh I need to pick some things up so I go into the grocery store for the first time ever as a you probably as most shoppers are in a car with tote bags no need for a backpack at all so I take my tote bags out of the car i take one tote bag and throw it into the other tote bag as i always do and as i'm walking in i see the security guard he doesn't make eye contact with me anymore we've had same guy obviously same guy luke this is going to sound like the ravings of a paranoid man but i swear to god as i passed him and he was sort of like pushing a cart i gotta say i think i think the security guard is a good guy that's what drives me crazy about this is like he's not some guy who's standing around with his chest pushed out no he's a rule follower he's just a super big rule follower he

would be on sunset getting burned alive because he wasn't exactly traffic but he definitely has

his eye on me and as i was walking in with my tote bag and another tote bag and luke i swear to god he craned his neck over and tried to peek in my tote bag i could oh m i mean i could be wrong i was there by myself i don't have any witnesses but i was sort of doing this as you know like i I was sort of thinking, like, huh, I wonder, like, could I fit my backpack in here and get it through? I swear to God, I mean, I swear to God that that's how I felt in the moment. I can't swear to God that that's actually what happened, if that makes sense.

I bet it did. I don't think you're crazy. And also— He craned his neck. Do you think—again, I know you don't, like, totally want to get into this, but do you think you are his most problematic customer? in the short time in the short time that this sars discount grocery has been open in your neighborhood because you've had two kind of incidents with him do you think you are because that would explain the craning of the neck if he's like oh it's that guy like do you think when he sees you he's like it's that guy i do think when he sees me he there's a little bit

of that guy i think he does recognize me i also think without disparaging my neighborhood it would be an amazing if you were the most problematic customer in in north aurora at a just considering at a discount as a discount thievery grocery store in the oak tree parking lot crime like shit going down shit is going down in my neighborhood yet there's a chance that i'm the most problematic guy in the grocery store why am i weirdly proud of this all that would be amazing Yeah, that would be, like, actually kind of cool.

You can finally get that teardrop tattoo you've been looking into.

Councilmember Kathy Moore is filing new legislation to regulate me.

The Andrew Walsh bill.

The Andrew Walsh Act. You know who co-signs that?

Greg Lazan of Deerfield, Massachusetts. Hey, Greg. Our final donor today. Thank you. What up, Greg?

Thank you, Greg, for keeping this ridiculousness going.

Absolutely. Thank you to all of our donors. We could not make this happen without you. I mean, really and truly.

it's time for the long-awaited blurs days over the holidays we had some format changes and so we weren't doing blurs days so my apologies i meant to give people a warning about that i did not do that so some of these folks have been waiting for weeks to have their blurs days read and so uh the a few of these especially the first few are going to be very belated but that consider them early blurs day wishes for next year except when they mention should i adjust the ages that are mentioned if that's the case i need you to fast forward one year okay fast forward one year um so anyway but that i just want to let all the recipients know that that was on me that was not on the people sending these in andrea says happy blurs day to my self-proclaimed 10 Herschel who just turned 17 by our new math so this isn't later on this year this is a super early 17th birthday yeah to Herschel who recently just turned 16 by the way I could not have asked for a better adventure buddy and I am so proud of the person you are you have been sharing TBTL with me for nearly a decade you will soon be a fully licensed driver and exploring why I thought you were going to say attorney. You are soon going to be a fully licensed attorney. Even 17 is young

to be a fully licensed attorney. My brain was saying attorney is the next word Andrew's going

to say. I know I've said this to you before. It's a not interesting story, and I'm going to say it right in the middle of Herschel's Blur's Day message. Herschel loves this, by the way. There is a promo that has been running on 710 ESPN, the local sports radio station that I listen to. It's just kind of constantly in the background. I love the patter. And there's a promo, just a generic station ID kind of promo that runs constantly. And I've been hearing it for years. And they always say something along the lines of, you're listening to 710. No, they don't call it ESPN anymore. No, it's like Seattle Sports Radio. And they say, covering this.

It's radio.com, formerly known as Odyssey. Formerly known as Enercom.

And that's what they say in the promo. Then they say, covering the Seahawks, the Mariners, and all Seattle sports. But every time, a little voice in my head finishes that sentence for them and says, the Seattle Mariners, the Seahawks, and everything in between. I always think they're going to say, and everything in between. And then my brain gets confused. I'm like, wait, what's in between baseball and football? And then it's not what they're saying anyway. But for years, my brain has been doing this little hiccup on this station ID. Does that make any sense?

Is that relatable at all? Absolutely. It is. And also, we know people there. In fact, a brother of mine works at that radio conglomerate. And also, we know Mike Salk. I feel like we could reach out and see if they can get that copy changed because I think what you're describing is a better way to say that.

Is it, though? But it doesn't make sense. The Mariners, the Seahawks, I think I switched the order. I think it's the Seahawks, the Mariners, and everything in between.

Well, those are the things that they have the broadcast rights to, right?

But what's in between? Husky football is not in between those two. What my brain is doing doesn't make any sense unless you're just going for comedy.

I It just sounds more I don't know It scans better for me

That's interesting so your brain sort of does the same thing Anyway all of that is to say Let's see here so this is again From Andrea to Herschel You're going to be a fully licensed attorney and driver And are exploring the world without me And running errands for me Happy birthday to you P.S. Happy Blur's Day to me too Happy birthday to both of you

Sorry for that long story Did you get your license? I asked you this recently, and I think the answer was you didn't because you had older friends.

Yeah, I had a lot of friends who were a year older than me and had their license. So, yeah, we kind of had a lot of freedom, but I didn't actually have to be responsible for driving. What about you? Which would be a theme. In my life, yes. In your adult life. A disinterest in driving. All of my friends were one year older and bus drivers. Weirdly. happy blurs day to anders wait oh it is pronounced anders right that now workaholics has gotten in my head ders yeah a-n-d-e-r-s happy blurs day to anders and norfolk from brad and nolan enjoy your day and the new year happy blurs day anders dave says happy birthday to my wife shelly another trip around the sun and that damn house we're building in the mountains is still not done. But while I've been up there working, you've been keeping our household functioning while working yourself and entertaining our two dogs, Alfie and Holly. I love you. Haven't we seen pictures of this

house? Maybe. I'm not sure. I think this house is in California up in like I want to say Mammoth or something. Okay, so safely away from all the fire. I hope. I mean, is anywhere safely away from the fire? Where's Mammoth?

Is that LA adjacent or is that in Northern California.

I think it's, I've never been there, but people, when I lived in LA, were always talking about we're going up to Mammoth. Oh, okay. By the way, I could be completely wrong about that. I just, I have this kind of vague sense memory of this being a home that they are building in some kind of alpine area, but in California.

Okay. Well, I hope that everything is going well. You guys are safe. And Dave says, I love you to the moon and back. He's talking to Shabby. Shelly, not us. I love you to the moon and back. But also us. And us. Your numero uno employee, Dave. Cute. We love love on this show. We do. I am. I don't know if this is an inside sort of nickname or a typo, but I'm going to read it the way it was spelled. Hi, mommy. It's big son and big daughter here. We want to wish you the most purr-fect birthday and remind you that you are as old as the Walkman, the Burton Snowboard, the McDonald's Happy Meal, Leg Warmers, and Strawberry Shortcake. All things you love. Think of all the things you did this year. Hung out with us. Went to, is it ZeroCon, Luke? X-E-R-O-C-O-N? Am I saying that right? Yes, this person. Wait, what was the name of the person? Okay, so you have met the, we don't, I don't have the name of the recipient. I've been to this.

I hosted this thing. Oh, you. Okay.

Well, then this makes sense. This is about you. So if it's pronounced zero con, let me finish this sentence. Think of all the things you did this year. Hung out with us. Went to zero con Nashville. Had a great time at zero con Nashville. Met a really cool podcaster at zero con Nashville. We love you so much from Elise, Liam, righty, and cat. Cute. Yes. So who's the person being wished to blurs? Mommy. Mommy or mommy. But that's all. There was like 80 people named Mommy there. Yeah, exactly. But happy Blur's Day. Cute. I don't remember. I mean, you travel around a lot. The X-E-R-O-C-O-N. I don't remember that coming up in our conversation.

That was a thing in Nashville that I hosted. It's an Australian. Wait, is it Australian or New Zealand? I think it's an Australian. It's sort of the QuickBooks. It's the Keurig of accounting software.

It was the accounting software. I think that's the name of the software. Okay, now I got it. On the wrong tab here. Now I'm back over here. Mary says, happy late Blur's Day to my daughter, Kelly. Oh, this is, you know who this is from? This is from Mary, our resident Rants and Raves author. Oh, sure, sure. A person who has mastered the art of getting in the Seattle Times. Has cracked the code. Exactly. I love Mary. I love Kelly. Kelly, a recent 10 of the week in the newsletter. Mary says, happy late Blur's Day.

They were helping us make bracelets at the Eagles.

Yeah, absolutely. I got to meet both of you guys. It was great. Happy Blur's Day to my daughter, Kelly. Why, oh, why did I have a baby on January 3rd? Such poor planning on my part. Your Blur's Day gets lost in the shuffle. I hope you have a great year.

Somebody else was involved in that.

Keep walking the streets of Seattle, taking amazing pictures of the city. I don't know how you find all the nooks and crannies that make your art so interesting. Love, your 10 mom and your 10 dad. Happy Thursday, Kelly. Great to meet you guys.

You know, honestly, Mary, don't. The 10 dad had something to do with the timing of all of them. Don't fall on your sword on this one. His sword had something to do with it.

Listeners, Brett and Amy here. Oh, these are our friends in the U District. Listeners, Brett and Amy here wishing our sweet 17-year-old cat-crazy smart and funny five Rockwell a happy Blur's Day. Oops, Luke, I didn't do the new math on that. So if this is a Blur's Day. We were all doing it in our heads. Oh, wait, but you know what, though? This one I don't think is late. I think this one came in this week. So anyway, we're good. Happy 17th Blur's Day to Rockwell. Let's see. He's long enjoyed the show, especially when he's contributed. Like his rendition of the Murder, She Wrote theme on piano, his fever dream of a tomato, bacon, turkey, and lettuce. tbtl sandwich recipe and there's no telling what he'll get up to on his new electric guitar uh-oh look out happy blursday rockwell a lot of people didn't catch that but i was saying electric guitar to the tune of um the talking heads what song is it where they say electric guitar

you have any idea what i'm talking about let's see i'm the only talking head song i can think of is naive melody because it has absolutely dominated the culture now. That's the home, it's where I want to be pick me up and turn me around. Do you feel like that song has absolutely just occupied forcibly occupied the brains of a certain kind of white person?

I this is weird because I kind of got a little bit in the talking heads like in the past couple of years. I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't recognize and I don't know if I'm just kind of not recognizing I think the song is called

This Must Be The Place, parenthetically Naive Melody Oh, okay, yeah, yeah It's become the number one song Sorry, this is going to get us pulled down in Romania But I feel like this song went from

I didn't know it was called Naive Melody

This song went from being kind of like

a bop to being like people are reading it at their weddings the apartment building that i lived in in portland had it inscribed in the tile when you walked in this must be the place

oh i did not i didn't realize its hold on the culture other than just like the talking head seems to the talking head seemed to appeal to a broad swath of this particular song though i

think just really like maybe during the pandemic or something it just became amongst the the set that I run with, it just became like the soundtrack of what everybody was

doing. I did not know that. By the way, the song that I was talking about where they say electric guitar is appropriately titled electric guitar off of the album. Oh, okay. Fear of music.

Parenthetically, this must be the guitar.

This must be the guitar. Let me see if this is the Oh, wait. Oh, I'm Did you hear what I just did? That sounded like Heidecker. I said Heidecker going along. I was like is this the remix?

Electric guitar, electric guitar

So there, actually not a bad needle drop as far as getting to the electric guitar part. Okay, all of that is to say, happy Blur's Day, everybody, and apologies for everything.

All right, let's see. Oh, you know what I want to talk to you about tomorrow? I feel like I have stumbled upon the greatest FedEx delivery guy maybe ever and I'm already mourning the fact I'm mourning the idea that I won't be on his route anymore he was just delivering something while we were doing the

okay well obviously I have follow ups but I should save them for tomorrow

for tomorrow yes tomorrow must be the place where we're going to be talking about my FedEx guy who just absolutely rules

I am going to have questions about his calves, okay? I want to give you a heads up on that right away.

Okay, you know what? I'm going to level set on this and tell you I don't have a clear read on his calves. I will tell you he's very physically fit, though.

Can I try to send you something today so that it'll force him to go to your house one more time and you can kind of get a look at them dams?

Mail me that thing from Listener Michael.

I don't trust this mail service.

If there's a guy you're going to trust it with, it's this dude.

Sounds good

Alright thanks everyone for listening Thanks for spending the time with us today We are going to be right back here tomorrow Is tomorrow Friday already? What the flip? This has been a weird week We're back Real life has started again But it's also kind of raced by

The first day felt like two days And the second day It felt like the first few days were really slow And now suddenly we're just zipping through it

yeah anyway we will be back here tomorrow though uh with more imaginary radio for you so please if you can join us for that in the meantime have a great thursday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all power out