Muse

I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it. Don't wait for it. Just let it happen. It could be a new shirt at the men's store, a cat nap in your office chair, or two cups of good, hot, black coffee. T-B-T-L.

Guess what day it is Guess what day it is

It's Friday, Friday Gonna get down on Friday

Everybody's looking forward to the weekend

Listen to me While I will admit to a certain cynicism The fact is that I'm a naysayer and hatchet man In the fight against violence I pride myself in taking a punch And I'll gladly take another Because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King My concerns are global.

Listen, Cracker Jack, if you're going to be televised, you've got to be easy on the eyes. It's no good if people hate looking at you. You need a suit, a tie, and some brill cream. Let's get to the jokes.

All right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Your voice is like a combination of Fergie and Jesus. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it's a chilly day, a chilly Friday. We're looking out at Cottonwood Island, where a number of different kinds of birds are kind of bedding down, I guess, or kind of hanging out.

There's something about the soul of a bird.

It seems cold, but I'm going to try to put that out of my mind. I'm going to try to push my intrusive animal empathy out of my brain long enough to bring you episode 4,300, AA and 83 in AA Collector's Series. Let the fun begin. Hey, we've got a new segment today. The TBTL Community Calendar. We're going to tell you about fun, important events that you can take part in with fellow TBTL 10s. Ready to laugh and drop until your socks come off? Also, as you probably know, and as you certainly piece together, maybe listening to that intro package, David Lynch has passed away. So who needs a movie? We'll talk a little bit about the life and times of a singular, singular filmmaker and television creator. Speaking of singular content creators, let's talk to this guy, longest running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Oh, hey, y'all said my name. His name is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

good morning luke you know how for a for a long time you would put at the top of a show sheet on a friday you'd write hey andrew any big weekend plans usually at the top of the show she just says hey andrew how's it going and then on fridays we'd always say hey andrew any big weekend plans and yeah i don't know if we ever even asked that question it was just there as a placeholder i think we might want to go back to that and maybe formalize it a little bit or something because Because my friend Pauly sent me a song today from, well, the internet says it's from 1960 Question Mark by Rod Rogers and the Swingin' Strings. And this is the song. Big weekend. The biggest one I've ever had.

I mean, how can we not do a segment called Big Weekend? Listen, do you want to know? I don't want to start the final show of the week off on anything that sounds even mildly critical. Because, you know, you and I both respond poorly to that. But I think what happened was there was a couple of Fridays where your answer was, yeah, not much. And or maybe something was happening on the weekend that you were like, I don't actually necessarily want to get into that. And I think I just decided it was a bad conversation starter. But now that we have that theme song, you need to really, really start doing crazy stuff on the weekends. I will, or I will, I will do whatever it takes to justify that theme music.

I literally, when I set this up in my head, I was like, Luke's going to say it's because I don't do anything on the weekends. Well, Luke, thanks for asking.

Yeah, what do you got? Big weekend plans, Andrew?

Well, every Sunday I volunteer, Luke. That's something I do every single Sunday, except for this one, because I will be only working half a day on Sunday.

You got Anna to cover for you?

Anna?

I mean, not cover for you, but to sort of take on the full lift.

It was actually a whole thing at the very, very end of yesterday's show, which I don't believe anybody got to, because I think we ended up in a different dimension.

I think TBGL employee numero uno, John Sklaroff, got there, but only because it's part of his deliverables, part of his KPIs.

Exactly, because we cut into his paycheck, if not. But it was a whole thing at the end of the show. you and I were talking about a silly

football game that not even any local teams are playing in at 3 30 on Sunday and I said maybe I can like kind of get out of sticking around a pop-up and uh and so I sent an email and saying Anna you know that would kind of put a lot on you and she's like oh I can't be there either for some oh no she's got some other things going on and so I'm like no problem you know it's okay like this was just a silly little notion anyway but then some other volunteers were just like no you guys both are here every week we're forcing you both to take the weekend off because you raised it and so i was i'm forced into fun times luke i will be um uh doing that uh you know

my favorite part of yesterday's show was towards the end and this just flashed back to me this morning during my jog it was when i was going down greenwood avenue on google street view asking you if you were also looking at a car that was like camaro calves i know and for a split sweet second

And my friend, I really thought it was him. Like, everything was coming together so perfectly.

Because what people don't know is for somebody who's nicknamed Camaro Kev, the man does not drive a Camaro any longer.

I've never known him as a Camaro driver.

But he does drive an immaculately maintained, very, like, pretty old car at this point that he just takes really good care of. But you don't see that car on the road very often, which is why I immediately thought, oh, this could be him.

Oh, by the way, I want to ask you about your weekend plans, but I do want to say something coming up that I'm excited about that is also related to the, well, maybe middle part of yesterday's show. We were talking about that documentary, Dig, about the Brian Jonestown Massacre and the Dandy Warhols that's 20 years old. And I said, I'll never, like, probably sit down. People have been telling me for decades to watch this. I'll probably never sit down to watch it at home. I wish it were in theaters. and then we google it it turns out it is in theaters for like one day only but also only in england for the 20th uh anniversary celebration i got a note from a listener saying no no it's coming to sift for like two days so it's not this weekend but i already bought my tickets for like excellent it's like a monday night veves and i are gonna go oh that'll be great i had to crack open the piggy bank the tickets were six dollars luke oh no six dollars to go see a movie that i've been

wanting to see for a long time very now here's the thing when i actually watched that trailer that was at the cif website that the listener submitted a link to oh you got the link too okay well i mean i i think i was on that email and i clicked on it and what i didn't realize was this is a re-release like with extras or something this is being called like dig 20 so what i i i have not seen this version of the movie i have seen the original and and and I'm sure that this will be really, really good, but I get a little worried when they're, like, updating it. Like, I hope it doesn't have, like, a Nickelodeon slime component. I hope no one's getting slimed.

I don't have it in front of me right now, but I noticed that it just says, like, an extra, you know, just, like, an extra extended cut or something. But it doesn't, I checked the runtime. It's not, like, some three-hour ordeal. Okay, good.

I was hoping that in zhuzhing it, they weren't changing it fundamentally because the original version, I thought, was really, really good.

Yeah, no, I don't think it's anything like that. I think there's probably just some things that maybe they're like, ah, 20 years later, I wish I'd left this in or something. But again, I don't have it in front of me, but it wasn't like, oh, join us for this four hour exploration of the tape that hit the floor.

I was just worried that maybe it'd be like a cut to current day interview with Anton or Courtney, Courtney Taylor or whatever. Oh, I would be shocked. I will let you know, but I would be shocked if I'm guessing on Deteminer who made that film is a very, very talented filmmaker who would not mess the movie up with. like modern day like i think it it's it needs to be rooted in and wholly exist within the time that

it was shot you know yeah i do want to say so i just looked up that was from listener wendy wendy thank you for that that was one of those emails that you just shot off and like you legitimately like kind of changed my plans i'm very excited about this i love this for you and genevieve yeah and i asked viz i'm like have you seen it she's like no i've always been wanting to see it i'm like guess what baby you got two six dollar tickets and a dream so anyway yeah dude hey

Speaking of movies and films, I watched Mulholland Drive last night. I started at 10 o'clock, which is now the new hour that we start all films in this friendship.

Although that might be the right time to start Mulholland Drive, honestly. You don't start that at noon.

No, no, you don't. You sure don't. You know, I don't think I'd ever seen Mulholland Drive. I had seen Blue Velvet, which, as you might imagine, was kind of a tough watch for me. We were saying all this because David Lynch passed away yesterday. and um and i have to say like it might just it might have to do with the kind of media that i consume or the parts of the internet that i hang out on or social media but the death of david lynch has reverberated in terms of the people that i follow online in terms of the newspapers i read like

Like, because I was a person who David, a lot of David Lynch's content was a little bit, like I said, a little bit of a tough watch for me. But I was always really, really happy that he was doing it and that he was out there. I think I might have underestimated how really important he was as an idea to so many people. Like, I mean, people are really, really kind of wrecked over this.

Yeah. And Kyle McLaughlin, did you read his tribute? I was thinking, oh, I could read this on the show. And I'm like, I literally can't read this on the show.

i could get through one sentence would you mind also cribbing that for when you write my kind of just change the name when you memorialize me would you i mean that's one of the most beautiful descriptions i've ever heard of and there was something in there if i can really quickly that i didn't even think about when i read it but then i thought about it after i watched mulholland drive which was kyle mclaughlin and i'm paraphrasing here kyle mclaughlin said something to the effect of david litch understood that the point wasn't answers the point was questions and I was as I was thinking about Mulholland Drive and I had a shit ton of questions I was like oh that's what he's talking about that's this the guy's organizing principle was

questions are more interesting than answers how did you find that movie I saw that movie in the theater with Genevieve now when we saw that movie and that movie is probably is that

around the same time is that like 2005 2005 yeah which which is shocking just when you look at the vehicles the cars that people are driving the film stock all of it it feels like it's from 35 years

ago but yeah and I remember so I we went into that I think I was a pretty big Lynch fan going into that movie I think Genevieve was a little bit more skeptical you know her taste in films not being kind of as weird and dark as mine but I remember surreal she really liked that movie I mean it's such a beautiful movie um I love the music in there it's got all of the hallmarks of like a david lynch film it's got like the 1950s sort of sock hoppy kind of style and music but also the really really dark stuff and of course the man with no eyebrows but then i will say even though i do like my cinema without wrapping up loose ends like for example we were talking yesterday about the movie a real pain like for me the way that movie unfolds and then ends is like kind of perfect not everything is wrapped up in fact there are questions at the end but you know what happened whereas you get to the end of Mulholland Drive and you're like oh a blue cube is that from the Transformers movie like like what's what's going on I gotta say I even I would like something I I did leave that thinking I wish I knew a little bit more because it tricked me you can watch some Lynch stuff you're like oh don't even try like don't even try it's fine but Mulholland Drive lulled me into a sense of I think wait I think I got this it's a who done it

these two plucky ingenues are going around trying to figure out who one of them is you're like okay this is a plot

yeah and then it does really sort of and this isn't a criticism as we pay tribute to the man but I do and I don't know that I've seen that since I saw it in the theater but I do remember thinking like well I could have used a few more answers there how about you

I benefited from having spent the day reading a bunch of different kind of you know sort of tributes to David Lynch and appreciations of him and again things like what kyle mclaughlin wrote so i think i went in being like i'm just going to experience this i'm just going to like watch it for what it is i'm going to enjoy the performances i'm not going to try to make too much sense of it so i was in a sort of idea and i was feeling very you know supportive of david lynch's legacy if that makes any sense so i i sort of enjoyed it i mean there were plenty of parts where i was like this makes no sense i mean the thing also that um that i found so interesting about and again i'm I'm guessing this is a theme in a lot of his work, which you, I'm sorry I'm taking up so much time talking about him when you're really the person who knows a lot more about his stuff than I do. No, no, no, I don't know that much. What I thought was so interesting about Mulholland Drive was, so like Naomi Watts' character is, like, it seems like David Lynch's thing was to write characters that were almost sort of like 1950s Doris Day levels of good versus evil, of sunshine and almost kind of, oh golly gee. and like not naturalistic dialogue to where at the beginning I'm almost like, why is everyone in this movie bad at acting? Why is Naomi Watts being bad at acting? And then, I don't know how much you remember from the film, but her character is also auditioning for a movie. And when she does this weird, she does this scene in this room with a bunch of producers, her acting is so phenomenal. Phenomenal in the audition within the movie, right? that it's like lynch is doing something obviously very intentional it's not like these other performances are what he thinks are the most naturalistic acting performances he can draw out of someone he clearly understands what that is too he's doing something else and that would of soap opera is what he's doing right like i think because like that's what twin and i gotta say everything i'm saying is just like i i don't know the last time i've sat down and watched david lynch movie and i'm not somebody who's done a lot of reading about it so anything i say here is probably potentially very wrong i'm just saying what i think when i'm watching it and it sort of feels like that's like again that i described it as that 1950s sort of that music and vibe that And you have those singers, I believe, almost saccharine, very saccharine. And you had a lot of that in Twin Peaks, too. And I think it was like because he was like he was making a soap opera and soap opera acting isn't that good.

you know right right but it wasn't because he somehow didn't understand what was going on it was an intentional choice i guess that was the thing it seems like with him everything was very intentional whether it worked for me or not as a viewer it wasn't uh it wasn't because he was just kind of like throwing stuff against the wall he had a pretty it sounds like he had a very very he was very exacting and what it was he was trying to do he also and this was something that i'd already read about him years ago but it was really making the rounds yesterday which was the whole

thing with him and the stuffed woodpeckers no i don't know anything about this oh really there's

this kind of iconic photo of him i believe maybe in like his production offices or something and he's got i think like four or five stuffed like kind of woody woodpecker type of things and apparently the story goes that somebody you know maybe a reporter asked him about these stuffed woodpeckers and he said he was driving i want to say in the southwest somewhere like in new mexico and he went by like a gas station and he saw them in the window and he did a u-turn and rescued them and he named all of these stuffed animals and then at some point he had a falling out with the stuffed animals and they were no longer part of his life i do remember hearing

about the fallout and as you were saying that i was like oh yeah i mean every part of it is pretty

quirky but the falling out is a really is really is really something seems like a really fun person to know i mean that was the other thing is i feel like you know again i don't need to keep saying this that that a lot of the stuff was was was a little bit difficult for me to access as far as the creative output but the other stuff that he did where he just like used to do that weather report every day and like just to wear the places that he would sort of show by the way his fashion his his sense of style is absolutely iconic like the guy was the guy had something going on with His look that I'm very envious of I wish I could commit to something like that But like so this like everything about David Lynch in the world. I was like being in the world I was very intrigued by and and yeah, I mean, I think he The the piece in the times that I put in the show sheet. I mean this is You'd be unsurprised to find that the person writing the obit for David Lynch in the New York Times did a good job But if you like me don't know a lot about him Andrew this is the part where I complained about the New York Times on this computer well I'm gonna log in let's see I would help you out here but

I don't think I I didn't I did not read this god that head of hair though when you're talking about being envious of his look I've I've been envious he was 78 years old when he passed away and has such a head of hair and God ahead for

days four days anyway I can't get to it because the problem is Andrew that the New York Times I know we talked about this yesterday and by the way there's another thing that i remembered was that you were kind of shading me yesterday on this and oh i didn't appreciate it one bit you said oh on the new york times yeah i was complaining i have it on my phone i'm logged into the app i have it on my other laptop i'm logged in i pay for it this laptop for some reason every time i try to click on a link for the new york times it wants me to put in my password do you think i know what my password is of course not it's saved in the thing point is if you like me are a kind of a novice when it comes to david lynch and where He fits into the larger sort of world of film. Please just read the New York Times kind of obit slash just career retrospective. Because what this writer did, whose name I don't have right in front of me, did a really, really nice job.

I can give you that. Jay Hoberman is the writer.

He did a really nice job of contextualizing David Lynch as compared to like Steven Spielberg and George Lucas and these other. he was part of this kind of this just like sort of brat pack of directors that all kind of burst onto the scene at around the same time he kind of puts scorsese in this as well i guess which i guess makes sense if you think about the timeline and and and then he points out the ways in which david lynch just kind of never fully do you know that george lucas wanted david lynch to direct i think it was either star wars or empire strikes back no i didn't know that and then dune came out

Because Dune came out first, right?

I think, actually, I don't know the timeline of which was which, but there was the guy writing the piece.

and the times is like basically yeah if you would have had david lynch direct empire strikes back we wouldn't be talking about star wars right now no that's right kind of the end of the line for

the franchise for what it's worth dune came out in 84 so i'm pretty sure that so obviously the first star wars already came out and i think wouldn't the the first empire the first wouldn't the first empire strikes back i think empire strikes back came out long before 84 as well yeah so yeah i get i don't know the story of how lynch ended up with dune but i do know that it didn't end well and that he didn't really finish the cut it goes by way of mel brooks oh of course well you see a lot of not to talk down you but you see a lot of mel brooks in dune you see a lot of the like kind of classic hallmarks of that it's um yeah the way they say sandworms

is great um uh so mel brooks saw eraser head and what like and was come like was this by the

is this this is to mel brooks's i guess eternal credit thank you thank you very much um like this

is what's so interesting to me about somebody like mel brooks which is that you know you look at space balls and and on all the other mel brooks stuff and it's so kind of slapstick and whatever and like the idea that he also went and saw uh eraser head and was like i don't really know what's going on in this movie which i think would describe most people's experience with it but something interesting is happening like and the fact that mel brooks valued eraser head in some way such that he went and found david lynch and was like come direct the elephant man is an interesting view into mel brooks's mind because he wasn't i mean he obviously had a lot going on in there other than just like you know uh space balls jokes you know like anyway so then i forget who it was i don't know who was who who greenlit the dune thing but my memory of of just reading this New York Times article was that even though Dune was kind of a flop, I don't, I mean, obviously that didn't fully, that didn't like ruin David Lynch's reputation. I was at a different time too, I think. Like, I think you could direct a movie and it could not go great. And it wasn't like, well, now you have no talent and you suck and we're done with you. The other thing that is so interesting to me was what a massive hit Twin Peaks was. And I remember this from my childhood. i didn't watch it but i knew about it i was like twin peaks was a whole thing and like thinking about that show and how kind of high art it was or what i don't know how how i didn't watch it you did andrew but like isn't it insane to think that enough american people were tuning into twin

peaks that it was a breakout hit it's because i didn't watch it until long well at the time it seemed so long after it was on tv but looking back like it was on tv in the 80s and i started watching in the 90s you know like 2014 seems like a blink of an eye to me now but at the time that I finally sat down to start watching Twin Peaks on VHS tapes that I rented from the local library after I got done with my shift I think I've told you this before just to paint a little picture when it was spring break you know people are like spring break woohoo my spring break and this is not a complaint I love this is at Kent State Kent State everybody else went off somewhere and I stayed in my tiny little like studio apartment just off of campus and I was working at a fiberglass factory at the time which I think David Lynch would appreciate and I'd get off of my shift at the fiberglass factory drive 20 minutes to one of those um they called it the Kent Free Library and it was just a regular library uh and I would rent like maybe like three VHS's of Twin Peaks wherever I had left off and then I would stop at the um Hess gas station was it or a BP and get myself like a half rack of red dog beer the cheapest beer that would come in bottles and I would just like go sit on my little uh bench that was taken out of my minivan and stuffed underneath my bed and I would put on Twin Peaks on the VCR that was connected to two different televisions in my tiny little studio oh interesting it was interesting stereo optic it was very uncomfortable for people who'd come over and watch movies because I had two TVs and they sort face in different directions so when you sat down to watch a movie at my place out of the corner of your eye sort of looked like your friend was looking at you i had was that so you could right

with that friends no but i mean was that was the two the two television solutions so that you could be lying or relaxing and look in either direction and see it was it to double the it didn't double the the it didn't double the size of the screen because it was the same image on both screens

just happening at the same time i think it was just because i could i think i had the wires i I had the TVs, I had one VCR, and I was learning, you know, and so I would plug things in. And no, it didn't work well because one sort of face, they were sort of facing 90 degrees. So one person would sit on a beanbag or something on the floor and sort of look past me. Our vision would sort of cross. It was just, in a very small way.

space too i'd like to point out oh and it just smelled like freon and cigarette smoke uh as we chain smoked and watched it anyway that was my experience of watching twin peaks and my problem

with twin peaks sounds pretty ideal and i'm not shitting you like that it sounds like the

environment to watch it in but i still know i think i can't tell you how many times in my adult life i've gone back and said i don't remember where i left off on twin peaks because it gets really complicated and the they started a second season but i believe or was it a third i get very very confused in the timeline of twin peaks i believe there's some twin peaks where agent

cooper is no longer involved i'm not yeah they did a reboot and i think he shows up in the final

episode oh are you talking about the new new one oh oh yeah i'm talking about some season that was concurrent like in the 1980s and i never that's the thing with the new one that was produced i want to say for hbo but maybe some other streamer i want to watch that but i keep telling myself well go back you have twin peaks at home like go watch we have twin peaks at home mom exactly and then i'm like yeah but where to pick up because it's just not the type of thing that you can just delve right back into and remember remember where you left off yeah even twin peaks like me with severance last night um oh you posted something on blue sky a photo so that's

dropping now huh that's that's the first episode out i watched it last night yeah yeah and i had almost no idea what was going on i should have i should have pulled an andrew and gone back and like re-watched the the the final three episodes i think by the end of this of this latest one but the one that was just released yesterday i think i sort of had pieced it back together kind of what was going on but i mean it's it's a it's complicated and it's getting ever more complicated but i was i was chuffed chuffed to see that when i'm not giving too much away i'm giving anything away that you don't find out in the first five minutes of watching this but like you know adam scott's character he's you know he's going back down below to his workspace and he comes in what's different about it now is he sort of he has an aware he has an awareness that everything is not right top side you know what i mean yeah yeah but it's still but he's still severed i guess so it's still like his his he's his innie just has more conflict right okay yeah He knows there's more going on with his Audi, but he doesn't really know what it is. But there was this moment, if you remember. Sorry, this is so boring if you don't care about Severance. This is what I pieced together. At the end of the last season, there was this tiny window of time where John Turturro's character, I believe, throws a switch. And everyone who's on the outside becomes fully sort of conscious of everything. For a moment, though. For a moment, for like 10 minutes. and then that that that lever gets thrown back so they're all working they're now they're all they're all inside right they're back down in the you know in at their job but they're all they all had a glimpse so their innies had a look five minute window into the outside world and they know something about their lives out now i'm remembering that's what they're working off of but before before the the gang all gets back together there's a moment where adam scott goes back to his workspace and he's got three new co-workers and one of them is ali shawcat yes

and the other is bob balaban you posted a photo of that i mean it's a great i did not know bob balaban was alive but i am here for it yes absolutely of course i think of him first and foremost from seinfeld but he's really famous from close encounters of the third kind right which i've never seen or am i confusing him with another white guy with richard dreyfus

i thought bob balaban was my here's my my bob balaban canon is as the music teacher in waiting for guffman who corky kind of elbows out of the way yes yes yes that's that's for me that's like that's when i became aware of balaban but um he he's in this and he's great and uh yeah i mean i'm i'm the thing about the severance is he is in close encounters by the way i've never seen close

encounters i just think it's funny that like i'm of a generation like oh bob balaband right the producer the guy who plays the producer the tv producer in in seinfeld where i think he was

already super famous before then anyway go ahead sorry i i watched close encounters i want to say on television when i was i would have been pretty young and all i can remember is the scene that everyone remembers from that movie which is richard dreyfus warging out and building a monolith of mashed potatoes that like represents something that he doesn't even understand that just like total recall should be the movie where the lady has three boobs close encounter should be called the movie where richard dreyfus does the thing with the mashed potatoes and do you know why i

know about that scene with the mashed potatoes because i believe and i'm trying to see when it was published i think i one of the first mad magazines that i was allowed to buy oh that

would be very much a thing they would yeah I think it was – because I would have – this would have already been in the 90s, and I think it was like a compendium of parodies that they – of movie parodies that they had done over the years. I'll bet you I still have that magazine somewhere. And so the most exposure I have to Close Encounters of the Third Kind is whatever the gang at Mad Magazine – however they gave it the treatment in 1979 or whatever.

that that would have been of course i wasn't allowed to uh own or possess mad magazines but uh you know i get my hands on them through various extra legal means and same thing there was so much stuff in that magazine that was referenced that i had like be it political or pop cultural stuff that i literally had no context for i've never seen it myself but i just saw it parodied in there and that shaped my ideas of it do you know how and i think we've talked

about this before in fact we have a voicemail maybe i'll play it next week from a listener who has kind of a similar similar story the things that really stick with me like some of the memories that i have that my brain won't shake are because they were somewhat well as your family would say fresh or dirty and you saw them at a young age and so you were maybe both like titillated or just confused about it and i remember much like the movie the godfather mad magazine was something that my dad absolutely loved but would not allow me to take part in because he you know he's like he would talk about how he loves the godfather how he loves mad magazine but i was a kid and i wasn't ready for that kind of you know mad magazine luke famously not for kids right and no no no and so i remember like i think me we knew that mad magazine was funny and something beloved but we also knew that it was you know it was pretty yes pretty on the edge and we were too young for it But somehow, I don't know if we had one as a, somehow a Mad Magazine came into our life, and I remember looking at it and thinking it was funny, but then my, you know how they would have little cartoons almost in the margins? Am I remembering that right? They had little sketch cartoons, like kind of in between the main content, which I just love that format. And there was one, and this is going to get real dirty, real fast, everybody. Get the bleep ready. is i remember having a moment with a mad magazine and my dad and kind of being like oh look we can all enjoy mad magazine but then my dad kind of pointing see that see this is the kind of stuff that you know kind of makes it not right for kids because in one of these little sketches that i believe was like maybe a three-part uh very rudimentary cartoon you see a man and woman fooling around in bed it's pretty clear somehow that they're having an affair the husband comes home classic scene right the husband comes home but the wife is alone in bed by the time he gets to the bedroom so where is the where is the philanderer right where is the other man and then we see an outside shot of the building and the man is hanging outside the window they're in some sort of a high rise right and so the man is hanging so we see and he's naked but we just see his buttocks but the the real dirty part is in the window below him the one that he's hanging in front of there's a cat playing with his ding-a-ling so you just sort of see a cat like kind of reaching

out and you don't the cat is playing with the man's ding-a-ling the cat is not playing with

the cat's ding-a-ling exactly the cat i mean that'd be a really evolved cat the cat is reaching out the window and you see the guy sort of fidgeting because suddenly there's a cat toy for this cat as this man and again all we see the only thing that we see that's dirty is like the very rudimentary sketch of a man's buttocks you know right right you don't even see you don't actually even see the front side right exactly but like just like i remember thinking that was like funny and like you know and also dirty and also the thing that made me not be allowed to watch mad magazine for another five or read mad magazine for another five years but anyway that just stuck in my head

also uh breaking news i guess they're still somehow printing mad magazine it's still happening i'm looking at one here that's the uh it's their love issue but of course they've stamped stinks between the word love and issue so it's their love stinks issue and who do you think the cover couple is andrew who's the who's in the most high profile relationship maybe in america possibly the world right now um uh why am i having taylor swift and travis kelsey but travis kelsey's face is as alfred e newman and it's like i mean god bless it god bless that this is still happening

but i love it i think i think they have ads now i know that mad magazine has really struggled like ever since the dawn of the internet i think cracked which growing up we were like even on the playground or whatever like mad magazine was one thing but cracked was the one that like all the bad kids really liked you know like Thank you. If the Beatles were Mad Magazine, then Cracked was the Clash, you know, or something. Yeah, I don't know. But maybe I messed up that analogy. But having said all of that, I feel like Cracked did a better job of sort of easing into the Internet age. Absolutely. They kind of aped the onion.

They figured out how to be onion-esque, I think, don't you think?

Yeah, exactly. So how do we get here? Rest in peace, David Lynch.

Rest in peace, David Lynch. And what a legacy, honestly Like I said, a very singular Creative vision Who sort of, you know Who really stayed true To whatever it was that he was Wanted to sort of project to the world Also, by the way, and then I'll stop with the whatever But like, it was really interesting reading In that New York Times piece Just the sort of All the different kinds of movies that he made Like he was the guy who made that The straight story about the guy who drives his lawnmower to states to visit his estranged brother.

Which you've seen, right? I've still never seen that.

I don't think I've seen it. I just know it's one of those things that was, you know, I think kind of big in the culture for a while because it was an odd idea for a movie. And again, I totally forgot that was directed by David Lynch, of all people.

Now, we're in a good place to wrap it up and you know how I hate wrapping things up. But there's one more intersection that I just think about sometimes that is not interesting to anybody but me, I might be able to get you slightly interested in it because of your love of Mac Miller. Yes, yes. I know exactly where you're going. And do you know that the song that opens up my other podcast after these messages is a song that I absolutely love, and it's Mac Miller rapping over, even though we don't use the lyrics on the show, rapping over the 1950s song that appears, I believe, in Mulholland Drive, right? Yes.

every little star or something like that but what's interesting about that you're at i went on this exact journey last night andrew because i was like oh why do i know this song and then it was like oh because mac miller raps over this it was one of his earliest song he's like a kid have you ever seen this video he's like a child rapping i think i have um but what's interesting is okay i don't we don't have to this is what happens when like i've watched something in the last 12 hours it's so at the very front of my brain you know but like what's interesting about that scene so justin thoreau is this director who's sort of being strong armed into casting a specific person in his film um and he's you know kind of one of these hollywood types who thinks he knows better and so when we when we're on the on the sort of sound stage and there's an audition going on and this uh this this actor actress rather is doing this kind of doo-wop 50s thing and then they bring the next actress in and this is the one that he's supposed to cast But what's weird is she's doing a totally different song than the actress who auditioned before her, which makes no sense in how auditions work. Like, because the first one, she comes over to Justin Theroux's character and she's like, you know, I want this job. And he's like, yeah, you know, I got to audition everyone. I can't just give it to you, but you're the top of my list or whatever. And she's done a whole thing with backup singers and dancers. It's one kind of doo-wop song. and then this other act actress comes in the one that he's sort of under pressure to cast and by the way another thing that's weird about it is she's also great in her lip-syncing of the song that you start after these messages with right like i was expecting it to be like oh she's terrible it's going to be like bullets over broadway it's like the the joke is some shadowy mob guy in la is trying to put his like you know lame girlfriend in this movie no she's also awesome And she's great at it. And that song, what's the name of that song again?

I want to say Every Little Star, but I don't know that I'm right about it. The original one, the Mac Miller is called Knock Knock. I know that. Right.

But whatever the original one is, I mean, what a song, first of all. And I don't think that I had ever heard it out of the context of the Mac Miller version or after these messages.

Now, it just occurred to me, and this is going to be a bad question because I can't remember the details of it, But there's a very, very iconic scene in a David Lynch film. And now I realize it might be Mulholland Drive because I feel like I saw this scene in a theater. Because to kind of answer your question or your sort of like your whatever, your ruminations on that, like why would you use two different songs for this? It's because I think David Lynch just loves a good performance, right? And it's just like wonderful to see two different songs instead of the same one. But isn't this the same one where – is this the movie also where there's a woman in a solo spotlight just performing one of the most –

Yes, she's singing Crying by Roy Orbison in Spanish. In Spanish, yes. It is jaw-dropping. Now, again –

I've seen her perform that live. Whoa, really? I believe our friend Lini brought her in.

into um she was performing what's that beloved unfortunately now gone little italian restaurant that was on first hill that just closed it had a fire and then something dino's is it dino vetoes vetoes yeah um anyway i saw her perform that there it was are you kidding me that moment in

that movie is it's it's jaw-dropping i mean it sent me down a whole rabbit hole about that because I mean again and that I think and maybe this is how we can sort of wrap this up I guess that's a perfect example of why I think David Lynch mattered because I have no Effing idea why they go to so lament a why do they just why does why does the you know The one character starts saying so lament a in her sleep, and then they go to a dim Poorly attended dimly lit movie house in downtown LA where a lady comes out who seems half-drugged at first and then sings maybe the most impactful version of the Roy Orbison song, Crying, I've ever seen in my life. Maybe the most impactful song I've ever heard in my life.

Like, it is amazing.

I'm better for having experienced it and I have no idea why it was happening.

Same deal. That's why I was like, I don't know, was that in that? Was that in Fire Walk With Me? And I had a feeling it was from that.

Was it in The Straight Story?

I will say that the one that you, Mulholland Drive, I feel like is, God, and I haven't seen all of his films, but like that is the height of sort of lush filmmaking by david lynch you know i mean like i love some of his early stuff like blue velvet is is funnier and kind of weirder in a different way um but just you know earlier on but like mahal and drive just like it i do sort of i mean i sound so just pedestrian saying it i do wish i had a little bit more closure on the storyline but man that that movie just kind of

cradles you in the lush well you should also now that you've lived in la you should watch it again because what i realized was well again i don't know if i'd ever seen it before but i just enjoyed the los angelesness of it oh yeah i just enjoyed that like this one character is like in a car crash and then she wanders down from mulholland drive to franklin i'm like i know that i know where franklin is and that would work right and like i believe so i mean it was it's a treacherous it's not uh she's like wandering through the like sort of like hills of hollywood you know in the

in the grass and whatever but jay leno's shouldn't attempt precisely precisely this is a

One of the main hazards to Jay Leno's existence, but she sort of makes it through okay. Anyway, yeah, so yeah, R.I.P. David Lynch. Speaking of our friend Leanie, the great, great performer, prom queen, Leanie, Celine Ramadan. She has many names and many talents, including being our donor theme song. That's right. Which is the time in the show when we thank folks who are supporting TBTL with their donations. This is 100% listener-supported podcasting going on right here, right now. Thanks to folks like Shea Daly, who's out there in Van Buren, Arkansas.

That's right. Thank you, Shea. I want to say, you know, you're talking about financial contributions to this show. You know, I think we're kind of being good business boys, by the way. I don't know if we've given enough. I don't know if we've given John credit for most of that. most certainly john but um you know we're already it's only january and we're already well on our way talking about some plans for this year and in the summer and things that we want to do nothing you know we're we're blue sky in now but we're circling around some things and i will say some of these things which i think are going to be really fun and they're going to excite the tbtail community they're going to cost us some money you know and yes and that's why this isn't but i'm boy if we pull some of this stuff off i think it's going to be fun i don't want to

I don't want to overhype it, but I will say I believe this may be the most, in a certain way, the most ambitious TBTL-a-thon to date. Potentially, yeah. Or at least maybe one of the more interesting ones. Yeah, certainly. I think it's going to be really, really fun, and I'm excited that the wheels are already turning on that. But the only way that we can turn our wheels on this and dedicate the time to it and make this our job is because of donations from folks like Shea and also Bryce Yoakum, who's in Visalia, California.

Oh, have you heard of Visalia?

I sure have. I feel like Visalia is agriculture country, if I've got this right. I think Visalia is, although when I see Visalia, I want to say Vidalia, like the onion, which I don't think is.

Oh, I don't know about that onion yet. They haven't taught me about that. A Vidalia onion? No spoilers. I haven't gotten to that part in the onion book yet.

Let's see here. uh visalia is i'm looking at it's uh it's in the san joaquin valley and uh it is and you know the san joaquin valley i believe is that's where that's you know the salad bowl right is that

the salad i'm not sure i'm not i'm really not familiar really with this but oh my gosh i'm looking at photos though some beautiful

photos. I do think that's where they grow a lot of different things that grow well in the Central Valley of California because it gets real, real warm there. Is it always

the golden hour there? According to these photos, it's always the golden hour in Visalia.

That's what it's known for. That's why Bryce moved there. It's beautiful. Thank you, Bryce. Thanks, Bryce. Thanks, Robin Boggs in Frankfort, Kentucky.

Indeed. Thank you, Robin.

Sometimes I have to fly to Frankfort, Kentucky in December to get my miles, Andrew. Have you actually? I still haven't written my strongly worded email to Alaska Airlines. I better strike while the iron is warm.

Yeah, honestly, if you have any chance.

If I strike while the iron is tepiter, I'm going to lose this whole jo-mentum on this thing. Thanks, Robin. Thanks to Christina Mayer, who's in Wenatchee, Washington. Interesting, because Wenatchee, Washington is kind of the Visalia of Washington. They grow all kinds of crops there in Wenatchee. And particularly apples, well-known for its apple crop. They should put that on the signs. The mycelia of this part of Washington. Christina, get on that. Thanks to, oh, Andrew. Oh, Sally. Look at how apropos this is. Sally Rasmussen checking in from, guess where? I'm going to guess North Bend, Washington. You're going to guess correctly. It helps that you have the list in front of you. What else happened in North Bend, Washington, my friend? Oh, of course, Twin Peaks. north yeah and washington cafe yes that's some mighty fine pie that's all happening and you

don't believe in a david lynch i mean that you know we actually that's one other thing about david lynch that we didn't really talk about or maybe twin peaks specifically that i don't think i had an appreciation for until i moved out here is just the pacific northwest of it all you know and that he would take some some you know this story of strange happenings and darkness and murder but tall trees yes but to put it up here the the open have you seen the opening sequence of of uh twin peaks before it's all just like it's kind of like close-ups of logs being cut and the lumber industry and but but like it's kind of slowed down set to that uh that music by baladachi i'm saying his name wrong but oh but i think you're pretty dang close that was his

longtime collaborator i learned um that guy did the music for a lot of his stuff yeah why am i blanking on the name but anyway yeah but it's an italian name yeah um i thought you got pretty close that's i think that's what i read um the other day that's the one yes that's the one but um uh no i haven't i actually probably will i actually might go back and like just give the first like the pilot of twin peaks you should try just to see how yeah i feel but um but uh one last thing about old dave lynch i think his friends called him dave it feels like a real different guy if he's dave lynch oh hey who's coming over there oh dave's gonna be here that is interesting

davey i'd almost i'd expect more than just dave dave lynch uh he uh he grew up partially in

spokane washington oh okay which is where his so i think his family kind of moved around a bit uh but in but he spent a significant part of his growing up years in spokane which is where he sort of connected with this pacific northwest vibe and then even though he he moved around and he spent a lot of time in philadelphia and he was kind of he was a painter uh first um like he went to art school for painting and was kind of that was sort of his thing and he was part of this like as you might imagine this real like believe me they would have thought that your digs in kent state were bourgeoisie he's part of a real out there kind of art collective in philly that were just basically squatting and stuff and then he that's when he sort of decided to make a racerhead or whatever but anyway he was always had this pacific northwest connection because of his time in

spokane i'm really excited about this idea of because i do think that twin peaks like the entire series is a bit uh to to maybe bite off all at once but like i actually love the idea of you at least watching the pilot and getting a sense of agent cooper who's always i mean it's so it's dark and weird and all that but like it's so funny luke like that that tape we played at the beginning of like that person saying i i follow in the footsteps of gandhi and king like he is yes i didn't know the reason that's so funny is because he is such an asshole the entire movie he's like this big dog and federal investigator who comes in and just talks down to everybody in the town he is such a jerk luke and then he like then he comes clean like the reason i do it that the reason i treat you this way is out of love and it's just like such

a great moment i had no idea that was a twin peaks thing until yesterday when like clips were making the rounds and suddenly i saw that scene and i was like oh this has been from twin peaks the whole time i had no idea what that i choose to live my life whatever whatever gandhi yes i think you're

i think you're gonna get it yeah i think you you'll really love the first the the first like maybe a couple of episodes yeah

Give it a shot. I wonder what Jonna Beving makes of the whole thing. Jonna's in Camarillo, California.

I always think if Jonna wanted to think Jonna and her kiddos waved to us from, like, maybe when we were driving the van around. We were driving somewhere where it would have put us in Camarillo, I think, but just for a moment. Camarillo. Camarillo, sorry, on the highway. And so the plan was to try to wave at us from, like. That sounds about right.

That sounds like something that we would have done.

Thank you, John.

Anyway, thanks, John. Thanks to all of our donors for making TBTL happen. We absolutely couldn't do this without you. And speaking of the tens of listeners, Andrew, we've got a new segment that we're rolling out today, right? It's the TBTL Community Calendar. Now, why we spelled community and calendar, both with Ks, I'm not sure. It just felt right. Can you kind of explain the sort of origin story of this new segment and this incredible theme song?

Yeah, well, obviously, we want to be on the cutting edge of digital content, right? And we thought, like, what do podcast listeners want? And we thought, well, sort of an AM radio style, swap shop style segment. But the truth of the matter is, Tradio, in looking for...

take this far enough, Andrew, if we tradeo this, we might get prank called by the Howard Stern show, which would be incredible. Wait,

Luke, I'll tell you why we're doing this in a second, but could we do a trade, could we do a one-time only tradeo episode of TBTL? Absolutely. People call in and say, I got this snowblower I gotta get rid of. It's pretty good. It's like a 2013 snowblower, and I'm asking about $350 for it, or best offer, and then we get that person's email address and then people just call in and talk about what they're what they're selling i don't

see any reason we can't do that absolutely i think we could i mean geography may be a challenge because usually these are hyper local yeah but but that's let's not let that let's not let that stop us i i love this idea of a tbtl we got to come up with our own spin on it so swap shop is taken tradio is taken yeah but yeah this music's really got me in the mood for some saturday morning this would be about 8 a.m on a saturday morning yes and you're just people are just kind of getting rolling with their weekend and they're calling in that they just heard about something that hey do you guys still do you have the number of that guy that was selling the you know the freezer oh by the way I'm in the market for a freezer to put in my basement oh really

looking at a well my whole plan I don't want to yeah but you know

what I know we're doing community calendar right now but later I can tell you about why I'm looking into deep freezes I like the

fact that just you mentioning that you're getting a freezer to me can totally derail the show and the brand new song with this music this is what keeps us focused the truth of the matter is we have so many tens writing into us about upcoming meetups that they're planning and various events and volunteer opportunities and book clubs and i thought you know what let's just combine this into a community calendar that we do right here on the air and we're going to start with the valentens card exchange project here, Luke. Jamie in Mississippi is coordinating this this year. If you would like to sign up to receive a bunch of valentines from valentines and send some out yourself, all you have to do is sign up at a special link, which I am going to put right at the top of tbtl.net. By the time you hear this, there will be a button at the top of tbtl.net that says valentines sign up. Click that button and sign up, and you do have to do that before Sunday, January 26th at midnight central time in order to get in under deadline midnight central exactly we also have a bunch of meetups happening here in the seattle area all coordinated by listener krista thank you this is our pal krista in eastlake who i run into from time to time uh i'm gonna read a bunch of information here and i do want to say this we're going to be you know throwing a lot of dates and times at you here during this community calendar segment if you have questions about any of these things, I think the easiest thing to do is just email me, andrew at tbtl.net and I will be the person, then I'll forward on any questions you have to the people. I don't want to give out a whole bunch of different email addresses here if you guys have any questions, but let's start up in Everett, up from where I am. She's up in Everett tonight! Everett. Let's see here.

If you ever say, just do this, I don't know if you have big weekend plans or not, we haven't covered this, but if you find yourself hanging out with Camaro Kev, just say the word to Everett casually and wait for him to reframe it as Everett.

The Mandadorian. Let's see here. We have a meetup coming up on Thursday.

January 23rd up there in Everett, 6 p.m. It starts at Scuttlebutt Brewing, I should say. It says the restaurant on Craftsman Way, not the tap room. So it's in the restaurant of Scuttlebutt Brewing in Everett on Thursday, January 23rd, 6 p.m. Fun. Also, Tacoma. She's down in Tacoma tonight, Saturday, February 1st. get together with Krista and the gang 4 p.m. at 7 Seas Brewing on Jefferson Avenue. Nice. That's 7 Seas Brewing in Tacoma February 1st at 4 p.m. That's a Saturday, so you're getting your drink on a little bit earlier there. And then right here. Tacoma folks,

I'm guessing you said that's Chris running that?

I think Krista is. Krista is the one who emailed me about all of these. Oh, nice.

I think Pam, I think listener Pam is a critical component of the Tacoma 10 experience. I thought I'd seen her name maybe floating around with this too. I think we know at least two people are going to show up.

Yeah, Pam is definitely going to be there and wanted to let listeners know that as well. And also, right here in Seattle, which is south of Everton, north of Tacoma, right here in Seattle, on Sunday February 9th, 4 p.m. again, Stoop Brewing. That's on Capitol Hill, 4 p.m. on February 9th. Okay. Do we know anything else about that uh nope so there you go there's your everett tacoma and seattle meetups at various breweries in the greater seattle area but we have more oh um busy calendar we've mentioned this that's why we had to do a roundup uh we've mentioned this on the show once before but i want to remind people that annie is getting people together so for a volunteer opportunity at Food Lifeline in Seattle's South Park neighborhood. That's Saturday, March 1st from 9 to 11 a.m. People are going to be sorting and repacking nutritious food for neighbors who need it. Again, that is Saturday, March 1st. You do have to sign up. You can email me and I will get you to the right place for that.

Volunteers must be 10 p.m. Central time. That's the deadline.

That's right. Sign up. No, it's Saturday, March 1st, 9 a.m. is when it happens. But just sign up and you do have to be 10 years old or older. and finally this is from listener cecilia who runs the tbtl book club where she organizes things on slack and the stens page on facebook wanted to let us know that the next book for the tbtl book

club will be james by percival everett evert boy is that book ever lighten the world on fire

i was not familiar with it maybe i should read it i don't think i can read it for the book club because I'm too slow of a reader.

Are you familiar with the premise?

Well, I believe it has something to do with this count who's going around getting revenge on all the people who sent him to prison erroneously. No, what's it about?

It's the Huck Finn story told from the perspective of Jim the slave.

Oh, yes. I do think that Cecilia mentioned that in her original email to me. I did not realize that.

I might want to be in that book club. I've been meaning to actually sit down with that book. Right now, I'm working my way through, well, various workbooks, but also Salman Rushdie's book, Knife, which is about him being attacked at Chautauqua, which is not for an interview. It's just because Becca got it for me. But after that, I'm starting in on James, so maybe we'll join up.

Let me give the date on this one. So the next meeting is going to be Sunday, March 9th. It's going to be sometime in the afternoon. They're still working on the details, but they'll post the Zoom link. and oh nice so it's virtual so it's a virtual book club anybody can join um and i'm not sure if there's a sign up situation if you have any questions again email me andrew at tbtl.net but that's going to be on march 9th sometime in the afternoon and keep an eye on the slack and stens page if you're there and so you can synchronize schedules i'm going to try to make it all that's

good that's a tough sunday for me because i'm coming off of the g love and special sauce show that i've attended the night before and it's a mere four days before the birthday of our friend katie back oh okay so you're kind of sandwiched in between a couple of big events for me oh yeah

this is genevieve's birthday it just occurred to me isn't march 9th genevieve's birthday i think yeah um not that anybody has to celebrate that in the book club um but wait a second are you

really going to see g love that's interesting i am i was that it was a gift uh becca's family is big on giving like experiences which is actually i have to say like a kind of a cool thing yeah like you know part of me is like i mean here's what happens historically they're always giving each other tickets to things you know like because they're all people who basically have the stuff that they need they don't need a new air fryer or whatever it's like most of us if we've been fortunate we don't need a lot more stuff

And so they're big on like a ticket to this thing and they'll buy everyone a ticket for it. And everyone's always and it's been the case a couple of times that I've been like included in this and the day has come for the thing. And I've been like, all right, I guess I'm going to Bright Eyes or OK, I guess I'm going to who did we go? I'm going to see Slick Rick. And it's, you know, like a Sunday night. And I am so glad that I ended up going to the thing. You know, that's kind of how it usually works. So I think for most of us, when there's a social engagement, there's just like there's always that point in the day of where you're like, hmm, is could I lie on the couch here indefinitely or go to this thing? I would choose lying on the couch, but I'm always glad that I went to the thing. And they're big. They're big on going to the thing in that family. So I'll be going to G-Love and Special Sauce.

That's cool. I was trying to find like every now and then I get this notion to see if I can find any record of a concert that I went to in the 90s. Because, you know, these bands, especially if you have a pretty strong following, people will put together, like, archives of everywhere they play. Uh-huh, bootlegs. And sometimes you can actually even find the set list or whatever. I can't find this, but I know I saw G-Love, I think still in high school. I'm almost positive it was still in high school. And he was, you know, that was when he was blowing up. And, you know, Cold Beverage was huge right then in a very specific circle. But I do remember he wasn't so big that, like, he was filling up huge rooms. And it was such a small I feel like we were like kind of like just sitting around him sort of. I must be somewhat wrong on that, but I don't remember it being even like a that much of a raised stage. I feel like could that have been at the Agora in Cleveland? I'm not sure where it was, but it was such an intimate performance. I remember, I mean, being super psyched about it. And again, I was probably like 16 or 17 years old.

I have a similar experience, which was when the song Baby Got Sauce started blowing up on KCMU. It was still called KCMU back in the, I remember, I literally remember like where I was, I was driving my 1980, my brown 1980 Honda Civic, and I was parking it on the street in front of my parents' house, and that song came on my little tape deck, and I was like, I had to sit in my car and wait until the whole block of music was over so the KCMU DJ would identify what this magical sound is I just heard. And I swear to God, he was like, that's G-Love and Special Sauce with Baby Got Sauce And I was like, started the car up and drove to Silver Platters to purchase that compact disc And then just wore it out from there Flash forward to, I'm a freshman in college And I feel like it was really early in the school year So it's fall, but it's still really warm weather out And I was very, very lucky in that I had a pretty idealized Other than the fact that I had a secret baby i had a pretty idealized kind of freshman experience of like moving into the dorm and i just remember like getting all my stuff set up in the dorm and like realizing like i now live here and i am i decide when i go to sleep and where i go and what i do and and critically for me because my whole life revolved around playing pickup basketball there was this outdoor pickup basketball court that was kind of positioned between all of the different dorms and stuff and I remember just like getting all set up in my dorm room and then putting putting on my like tennis shoes or my basketball shoes and then walking over because when I was a kid I was so obsessed with pickup basketball and I was always looking for a good reliable pickup basketball game where it was like fun that it was competitive but there was enough players so you had two teams and a team waiting it was all happening here on this warm September afternoon and I remember it was probably a week or two later that i heard g love and special sauce were coming to play at the hub the husky union building and i remember going out to the basketball court on the day before the concert and there was g love shooting hoops with us oh wow and we played i played pickup basketball with at that point i would have said the greatest music star in america g love that's

the perfect time to i don't i don't think i knew that story i knew you love g love by the way this is a small thing and i might be reading too much into this but i wanted to see the track listing on that first record which i think is just self-titled and on wikipedia it actually even it says in describing this first record it says you know it had uh cold beverage the song which became a college radio staple as well as babies got sauce which seattle's kexp fm called song of the year so i'm now of course it wasn't kexp back then as you just said but that's interesting that i wonder if like kexp actually had a bit of a star making role in oh i bet they did i bet they

did because even in those days uh it wasn't the sort of cultural juggernaut that it is now as kexp but i think it probably had some pretty good sway as far as kind of college radio i'm guessing that the biggies at that time would have been like wxpn in philly uh the current still in minnesota i don't know if they called it that then and and kcmu would have probably

been kind of a biggie i don't know if kera was around then down in texas that's a big one now too yeah i do i'm legit excited for you lucas i don't know what the venue is but here's what i'm thinking and maybe you have more information and but like i have less information like if i literally

didn't even realize this was happening until i looked at my calendar for when the book club is

meeting if the venue is good like i have no idea what g love is doing these days or how he sounds but it's the kind of music and this is going to sound like i'm being sarcastic because obviously there's a little bit of there's a little bit of like I guess influence of rap in there but like yeah he's the kind of musician that could his music could evolve well as he ages we've talked about this on the show before and it's this vague notion that I have that I need to be careful not to be ageist when I discuss these things but there are certain kinds of music where and I'll say like my beloved b-52s is an example of music that doesn't age well as the musicians age and perform it. You know what I mean? There seems to be sort of a disconnect between the music that

this band made. It suffers from Mickey Avalon syndrome? Yeah, I would guess so. But then

you have things like Wilco or Jeff Tweedy, more specifically, or, you know, Tom Petty, rest in peace, or like the people who, you know, had their early days of rock and roll or whatever it was, but like their music lends itself to something that you could see evolving. You can engage with the music. I could totally see G. Love leaning more into, you know, like the the because mostly it's like kind of blues and it can just be a guitar and a small little

backup band yeah i i totally agree i think it has the sound uh particularly some of the like you know maybe less well-known tracks i really only know that first record and then i think the one after that was called like oh yeah it's that easy or something i was also i was extremely extremely into um but there's a lot of tracks that you're right they're just kind of like it's almost just kind of a groove and like a bluesy thing or whatever it doesn't it doesn't it's not a ton of complex instrumentation and it's not something that feels necessarily rooted only in youth it feels like it's just kind of you know kind of music that you could play for your whole life and maybe even add a little more kind of emotional resonance to it as you get older yeah it's at rev hall by the way okay so that's a pretty that's a you know decent sized venue yeah that's a big venue for us when we do live wire yeah so i guess

So you said that's March 8th. I see that he's hitting. Look, if I'm right about that, he's hitting the crock here in Seattle the night before on the 7th. So that would be a Friday night for me, a Saturday night for you. Texas two-step. I'm actually sore. Well, I didn't mean hit both. I love this. Not a bang-bang, but what if we did? What if I went to see it and then we could talk about it on Monday? No pressure. I'm sort of curious.

I'll be seeing them on the 8th because those tickets are bought. So if you, again, no pressure, but if you do, if you feel like doing that, I'm totally down for the plan.

Yeah, let me see if I can find some buddies or something, or see if he's just interested. I might, you've really piqued my interest.

Something is, this buying these tickets to dig has really changed something inside you, and I love it. I love it, Jerry. All right, my friend, what do we want to do here? Do we want to try to delve into top stories that we didn't get to this week? Do we want to talk about skeletons in Tennessee? Do we want to do emails and v-mails? Do we want to relax into the weekend? What do we want to do here in the last 15, 20 minutes of the show?

I do at some point want to talk about that top story. Maybe we prioritize it on Monday. Sure. Because it did occur to me, I had set something up as an email, kind of a longish email involving Sky Jinx that I wanted to share. Oh, right. And I had totally forgotten about that. Could we do that today? Until somebody was like, yeah, so let's do that now. Hold on, I've got a theme for this. Yeah, I was going to say, you get that going. Thank you.

go once again with the email every week i hope that it's from a female no man it's not from a

female all right all right yeah you had me intrigued yesterday you said you were on the edge of your seat i was reading this you said very it was a transcription i believe of a very

very long yeah so message this is a note from our listener janette who says um this is what just happened on a on a flight to my husband so i believe it's the the husband who's who's actually um writing this john is his name this was just on january 4th a couple of weeks ago i almost wonder luca i don't know what you have at your fingertips if you have any dramatic music because i will be reading for a while here okay and i'm going to try to resist the urge to speed up which i sometimes do when i get insecure because that's not going to do anybody any favor so if you want to add some dramatic music underneath me i'm looking for it right now i'll just start and i'll trust you to maybe just sneak that up underneath me this is um written by john i get on the plane this is sky jinx by the way i get on the plane and two women ask if i will switch seats with their friend because she has a little one with her i agree thinking the little one is a kid but no it's a dog but okay whatever i I move from 29A to 26C, losing my window seat, but I'm being nice. But then nobody joins me. I have the whole row to myself. There are only a few empty middle seats anywhere else, so this is a big win for me. For two hours, I'm all spread out in my row all by myself. by the way this is a flight from uh from i'm thinking this is from seattle to new york and i think this is a long flight so for about two hours and i'm gonna say this is five hour flight full row to john himself then a flight attendant comes over and says we're gonna need your seats i move my stuff back under my own seat to clear the other seats and the attendant says okay so are you willing to be an able-bodied passenger i say okay uh do you need me to swap seats with an exit row person she says no we need you to watch over someone for us oh wow i'm again thinking a little kid second time i wrongly thought that so i say sure she says okay he'll be cuffed and we'll put him in the window seat and you'll sit in the aisle seat and alert us if he tries to leave.

What? I mean, I have already a million questions, Andrew.

And all I have is the text in front of me. So I don't know if asking them is going to do any good.

What I'm wondering is how in the world was there already a law enforcement event on this plane that John was unaware of? I mean, I guess planes are very long, so maybe it was in the way back. I just feel like you've got a guy zip-tied. I feel like that's going to reverberate through the plane.

All right. So that what was not from me. That was from John. That's John's reaction. Like, you're going to alert us if this guy tries to leave. What? But I've already agreed. So, okay. She says, if you don't want to do it, we'll put an all call and ask a volunteer to swap seats with you. Well, if someone has to do it anyway, it might as well be me.

Hey, if anybody on this flight isn't a giant wuss. Yes, right? Would you switch with John, who's being a giant wuss, right? Of course you have to do it.

Yeah, John says, I already agreed. So, okay, I agree. They bring a normal-looking guy back in zip-tie cuffs and put him in the window seat and buckle him in, and I take my seat. And again, I think that's on the aisle there. He's quiet for two minutes and then starts screaming and yelling and thrashing his head into the seat in front. they come back to calm him down but he breaks out of his cuffs and is trying to get away no they got him back down and they redo the zip ties and then they leave asking me to alert them if he tries it again

what? you mean the Hulk strength maniac who's already broken his zip ties once yeah I'll keep you posted

oh that's right you know what when I was going to read this to you the other day I was going to look up the con air music that's what we should be listening to because i'm now i'm picturing like steve buscemi here yeah right what again okay though in for a penny in for a pound i love john by the way

god i do too but i want to know john i mean listen i want to know i'm also looking up the con air soundtrack this is big in romania so you know we're gonna oh yeah definitely get pulled down over this although you know the con air soundtrack is a lot of trisha yearwood oh really

Isn't there a theme? Isn't the first track a theme, though?

First track is How Do I Live by Trisha Yearwood.

Oh, I was looking at a different... I think I'm looking at... There's another original motion picture soundtrack. Oh, yeah, the Con Air theme. Is that what you're talking about? That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I think that's the one. Okay, I don't know. Gotcha. Now I got you. It just seems like it'd be good. Okay. A few minutes... Oh, wow. This is better than I could have possibly imagined. Good call, dude. A few minutes later, the same thing happens again. He doesn't get out of his cuffs, but he thrashes about so much...

i'm sorry i keep interrupting but like i i can just i can empathize so much with john in that he's got this row to himself i mean if he wants to lie down he can he's stretching and he is going from the ultimate relaxation to the ultimate stressful situation you know what i mean like this is a look so much pressure to put on poor john who was doing nothing wrong other than

enjoying his row to himself i don't know if this is uh well i mean i will say that um jeanette wrote back into me and said oh if you do happen to read that email on the air it's maybe worth noting on air theme it's worth noting do she said under no circumstances use any trisha yearwood um okay uh she says john for whatever it's worth is not soup of a very big guy and he's not a particularly young man is how she described it i believe right so this was like you know if you John wasn't going to be the one. taking this guy down when he breaks out of his manacles right right exactly so anyway a few

minutes later the same thing happens again this time he doesn't get out of his cuffs but he thrashes about so much that his keys fall out of his pocket onto the middle seat when they get him calmed down i point out the keys and they say that they can't take them away but i should keep an eye on them to make sure he doesn't get them what they can't take them away you're saying what in sync with John now. I love this. Yeah.

Parenthetically, John voice.

What? You can't take them. Was that law of the sky? I guess so. Again, and I mean, I do believe that there are probably certain rules about like, you know, you're a flight attendant. You're not a law enforcement official. You have to for the sake of safety.

You've hogtied the dude. We've crossed a Rubicon.

But there might be some specific rules about, you know, like what people own.

But John's allowed to. But random citizens who have not been deputized are allowed to for some reason.

Well, it says, again, they leave and the scene replays itself. When they come back, though, I pick up the keys, which seem like a sure weapon to me, and I give them to one of the attendants saying, I'm not going to have them sitting next to me where he could use them as a weapon. This time it takes a very long time to settle him down while I'm standing in the aisle. People are offering me empty middle seats in their row, telling me just to say no and walk away the lady i love this the lady across the aisle is like i feel sorry but i don't know what to do want my chips it was cute sad and funny all at once oh this goes on for a long time and finally i start talking with one of the flight attendants about taking one of those other seats she says that might be a good plan but she feels so bad for me that she wants to find me a better seat i tell her it's okay but she insists now the other three attendants are trying to get this guy to sit still. She's running back and forth trying to find me a seat in the front of the plane. They are not getting paid enough for this bullshit. No, neither is John, I would say. John is actually paying to be there. Yeah, she keeps but that is not to undermine what you just said about the flight attendants. I agree. She keeps coming back and I keep saying I don't need a better seat. A middle seat in the back is fine, but she keeps insisting that I deserve better. I kind of love this. This part has to be a comedy farce i think i quietly walk back to row 30 and i take a middle seat she keeps coming back to check on me and i tell her she has enough on her plate and to stop thinking about me one flight attendant takes the aisle seat that i was in and tries to keep this guy settled down finally after about an hour the pilot comes on and announces that we're diverting to minneapolis we make a very fast drop from 33 000 feet or and i'm and then we're on the ground getting him off the plane on the ground and after takeoff the attendant comes back to see if I want to move to the front of the plane but I say I'm just fine in the middle with everyone else wow John is the American hero geez we don't deserve but he's the American hero that we got yeah

this is the soundtrack of John walking off that plane in New York

that for some reason and the plane explodes behind him.

Yeah, exactly. But nobody sees Steve Buscemi again until he shows up at a craps table in Vegas. That is a wild story. You know, I was actually, I had this thought on my flight the other day with the amount of time that I am spending on airplanes in a typical year. I am surprised that I have not seen somebody getting, you know, somebody getting zip-tied through either a mental health crisis or just being really angry. It seems like it was happening a lot. I see a lot of clips online. I just think the law of large numbers says I should be on a plane where that happens at some point.

That's a really good point. I mean, you must have been on a flight with a Baldwin at some point. No, that's a really good point. A Depardieu. A Depardieu. God, that's going back a ways, too.

I mean, didn't he, like, urinate in the aisle, I believe, or something?

I think he was probably drunk as a skunk. Oh, off of his skunk. Yes.

Yeah, I was thinking about that the other day, just kind of like, I wonder if at some point in my time of flying so much, if I will be on the plane when something goes down, and also kind of what my response will be. I would not. Well, you'll be zip-tied.

Well, you might be the person.

You know, I assumed I was going to be the John, but you're right. I might be the person who's being zip-tied. Particularly after my comments about the carbon offsets get back to them.

Right, exactly. You haven't heard the last of this. You know, I know that this is a very, very, very personal question, but I don't think that, you know, you used to talk about flying all the time. And a big part of that for you was like kind of your well-timed gin and tonics or whatever they were, gin and sodas or whatever. Vodka soda, probably. But anyway, whatever.

I don't think you're doing that as much these days. Has that actually, as you look back on those boozier days of flying, are you almost kind of like, oh, it's almost easier not having to plan in for that? Or do you sort of—

You mean plan for the drinking?

Yeah, sort of. Oh, hugely. You look back and you're like, oh, God, I'm not getting off the plane and having to worry about my presentation.

Oh, yeah, big time. Dude, there was a pretty substantial—I will say this for the record. There's nothing I love more than drinking alcohol while flying It is my very favorite place to consume alcohol I don't do it very frequently anymore Just because of general lifestyle changes But back in my day when I was really going hard and heavy with it I used to get I would be so drunk on the plane And in fact, not if I was in coach Your access is limited in coach it's only when they come around you know in the words of billy joe armstrong um so you you kind of can't really get there but if you're in first class you can if you handle yourself well and if you kind of if you get a kindly flight attendant uh and you kind of um you you play it right it's sort of in the way that i used to order a steak medium well without anyone realizing i was ordering it medium well you kind of turn up the water on the frog you i could get pretty bombed on some flights and then the problem is when you're of a certain age and you're quite bombed you have to pee a lot and i'm not i would never defend gerard jepard who seems by all accounts to be a truly repellent person on a lot of levels but the whole thing of like almost having a needing to go to the bathroom accident like pee accident was not far from my mind a few times because there's so many rules about the lavatory and access to the lavatory and like we're having turbulence so it's locked or where the pilots are using it so now the flight attendant is blocking it. Like a whole variety of things can block your access to the restroom. And if you're like, you know, if you've got about 10 to 12 vodka sodas in you through, you know, maybe pre-gaming and then getting on the flight and then getting a kind of friendly flight attendant, it can be a real situation. And I had a couple of close calls in my day and not having to factor that in is kind of nice, not having to worry about getting off the flight and being like, legally, should I be renting a car? Not worrying about like, you know, how am I going to feel tomorrow? I mean, one thing I was if I was flying to something that I had to do that day, I was pretty good about about leaving it alone on the drinking. But certainly like if it was just if my whole job that afternoon and evening was to fly to the location.

Yeah, and then just get a hotel and then, yeah.

Yeah, it's definitely a thing that I enjoyed doing, but that I also very much see the benefits of. And, you know, the other thing that I noticed, and I don't want to get into sounding like I'm moralizing here at all, but, like, here's what's actually pretty funny about it. When I stopped drinking on flights, I realized no one else was drinking the way I was on flights. like I think I got into my mind that like oh we're up in first class and we're all just like getting absolutely sloshed it's I don't I can't remember the last time somebody who's sitting next to me in first class has even ordered a drink like when I went from drinking a lot in first class to not drinking very much or not drinking at all up there I thought I'm gonna look like a weirdo when I order my big drink now and I love it so much is a club soda and they have these little lime packets i get a club soda with ice and if you're up front they give you a real glass which is just spectacular and you put this lime packet in and it's like it's all you need in the world it's so satisfying and i thought that's going to make me seem weird like people are going to be like what's up with you dude i realize now very few people are even actually drinking there might be a person getting a glass of red wine here or there what almost no one is doing is like trying to actively black out you know i was way outside of the norm up there for a lot of years i don't

think i realized that you had that much to drink on planes because my whole thing and again i don't fly first class so that is probably a big reason maybe why there are some built-in limitations for me but i enjoy having a cocktail or two on a plane my go-to usually and this is sort of well it's sort of airplane specific i enjoy this in the summertime as well but i'll get like a cranberry juice and vodka usually i'll get a double um and first of all i always feel like then they hand you like kind of two cups it's always like awkward you never know what you're gonna get sometimes you get like one small glass of cranberry juice and two shots of vodka i'm like i could use more cranberry juice well whatever you just take the ratios are a little dicey yeah um but then i i sometimes i feel the eyes and this could be totally invented on my part but sometimes i feel a little sheepish like the people around me are like look at this guy juggling like all these booze bottles or whatever uh-huh but i I also know that I have led people to drink on planes before because I know I just I can't explain how I know this. But I know the ideal for me is if I'm on a plane and if I'm not flying with Genevieve, if I'm flying solo, it's like me on the aisle, empty seat and then like window seat.

And then a person in a mental health crisis. And then one person that I take away on the window. But no, I know you're holding a cattle prod for some reason that they've given you.

I feel like the people next to me at times have been planning on getting some sort of a beverage, but then they hear me order alcohol and I hear in their voice like, oh, we can do that. Oh, well, oh, well, there's an idea. This fella to my right is going to be getting a cocktail. Why don't I get one as well?

Yeah, there that is a dynamic. I wonder if part of my if part of how this sort of evolved for me was that in the early in my 20s, honestly, you know, the place that I probably flew the most was Vegas. Yeah. like i didn't travel for work a whole lot and i did you know everyone that i knew was in the pacific northwest so where was i flying to we would go to vegas you know three four times a year if we could scrape the money together and that's the whole point of the flight to vegas is sort of you know is is drinking um and so i wonder if somewhere in my mind i thought well that's what you do on airplanes and it's also fun at least for me and and yet i carried that over into yeah like a place where it's definitely like i i was yeah i was under the i was under the um the mistaken thought that everybody on the plane is drinking as much as humanly possible for most of the flight and it wasn't until i stopped doing that i realized no one's doing that except weirdly believe it or not a flight attendant that i it was absolutely that snl sketch the the woman at the party that you wish you didn't get stuck talking to no i was at lax this was a few months ago i was at lax flying home and i was sitting i was sitting at the bar um i wasn't drinking but i was just sitting there eating like a pizza from the wolfgang puck pizza at lax and a woman sits next to me and she is just all over the map she is just making so much conversation that I so don't want to be a part of.

Is it all directed towards you, or is it sort of to everybody?

It's directed towards me because I was the only person sitting there, and she's like, oh, that pizza. That pizza, my brother makes the best pizza. That pizza can't be as good as the pizza my brother makes, and I thought, you know what? I'd believe that. It's actually pretty lousy.

Yeah, I'm sitting in an airport.

I don't know what the response to this is. I don't know how to respond to how much better your brother's pizza is. Then she was going on and telling me about how she wisely bought a condominium in los angeles um near where the olympics are going to be held and so she's going to airbnb it i was like this all sounds great for you like just a bunch just a torrent of information that i did not ask to be a part of the receiving of and i noticed that she had a water bottle with her and at some point she like explains to me that a she's a flight attendant for alaska airlines And B, the water bottle is full of booze. Whoa. She's not on duty. No. She's like, I don't know if deadheading is the right term. You know, there is a certain thing where you're going to your destination to then go to work or whatever. She's going from, I don't want to give, I don't know. I don't know. I actually should bust this one because it's pretty unprofessional. But basically, she wasn't getting drunk. She's not in uniform, right? She wasn't in uniform. She's not getting drunk and going to work. she's just has to go up to san francisco which is i think her hub and but she is she is totally unapologetic and i'm like i said to her i was like you know one of the main things you guys say to us is no bringing your own booze on the flight she goes i know but they never check us because we work for the i was like you gotta be kidding me so like i was like i can't believe i'm witnessing this at sort of at the ground level like oh you because i always assumed this kind of shit went on like in that if you work for the airline you go through your own like special security thing because obviously we can't bring we can't bring liquids through security like how did she get her water bottle of booze through well she didn't go through security she goes through the special airplane staff airline workers one which apparently they let you bring liquids oh wow and then she's over there just like unapologetically telling me how she's got like she's and this would also by the way explain why she was so annoying to talk to because she was just

lit yeah and then she's sort of sad too i mean unless unless you got the which i do not think you got the impression not that i should in any way weigh in on some stranger's life whom i've never even met but like unless this is like a young person who's like going on like kind of like oh it's really like once in a lifetime i'm getting lit on this airplane if this person who is like a professional you know somebody who probably my age if not a little bit older and is carrying water bottles full of booze like that that sounds that sounds rough to me man i mean i will say yeah no i'm not gonna say it is rough it is rough like i was thinking like also what happens if there's an emergency and like they're like we know that there's a two flight attendants that are like not working that are on this flight and we need them or something what if we need to zip tie a guy i wonder if it was john's flight i wonder why the zip tie this lady was in charge of the zip or maybe maybe this lady was the person

No, it doesn't fit the description. But, yeah, because you also think that, like, if I'm, I don't know why I'm just hammering home this woman's life situation, which I shouldn't be doing. I feel weird doing it. But, like, you sort of feel like if you're just having a good time and you're a flight attendant who's off duty, but you're friendly with all the other flight attendants, you know that they'll bring you the little bottles. You know what I mean? Like, you just want to have a couple of drinks. Like, I don't know, a water bottle full of booze. It sounds like funny, like, if it's a lark. Again, if you're going to the solstice day parade and you're, but like, I don't know,

it's just sort of, if you're flying to, if she is flying to Vegas using her, using her kind of like airline privileges and she's going to start her vacation and have some fun and she's kind of pre-gaming or whatever, it's like fine. But yeah, like the, yeah, that was, again, I was just struck by, I was like, I can't believe that I am, you're telling me this voluntarily when your guys' entire spiel is no bringing your own alcohol on the plane i'd never seen power abused so flagrantly

you're also a little jealous i think there's probably a little bit of that i mean retroactively i watch those people walk you know when i'm in line and i'm not pre-check so i'm waiting in that full security line and then i always see the whoever it is whether it's pilots or flight attendants or any other you know like professional in the industry who's flying on the plane yeah and they walk up that little ramp that is sort of like that runs alongside i'm picturing specifically in sea tack there's i'll just sit there while i'm in line watching all of these like sharp dressed airline workers just kind of zipping up the ramp next to me going right in going right past security

by the way i actually think it's i've never i don't think i've well it's not since those like early in our 20s vegas flights where we would absolutely bring around alcohol we bring ziploc bags full of airplane bottles of booze like I don't think it was even prohibited in those days really I mean what I mean is like an airline like a little airplane bottle but in a ziplock bag the mummy would always have like this was his only contribution financially to these trips would be like okay I got everyone their little bags of their of the booze that we're going to drink on the flight

and you were putting them in the bags because of the TSA rules post 9-11 or this is pre 9-11 this would have been post

9-11 probably okay so maybe it's like

Because you were allowed to bring a certain number of ounces in a bag.

I think you could bring your own at some point, or at least it was very, very unenforced. I think to this day, though, as long as it's less than three ounces, I mean, theoretically, I think you could bring airline bottles of booze through the TSA, presumably, right? As long as each individual one is under three ounces.

I thought there were two rules. I thought there was the liquid rule, which you're addressing there, but I also just thought that there was an anti-bring-your-own-booze rule, but maybe I'm wrong about that.

i don't think there is i mean again i haven't tested this and the window is sort of closed for me on it but i do think you could probably bring your own stuff and probably kind of get away with it if your seat mates were were chill and cool well that's good but um but yeah i i don't miss i don't i don't miss the chaos of getting off of those flights and being like and also by the way getting on a couple flights i don't want to belabor this but uh getting on a couple of flights where i was like if these folks knew how actually drunk i was they wouldn't let me on the flight and that's maybe i had a connector so it was like i already had a flight and now i'm changing planes or like a flight got delayed so i just posted up at the bar where by the way airport bar culture and the whole do you want to double for 50 more or whatever it's like the the liver doctors of america i guess thank you for creating business for them like how that became an airport staple bliss so weird to me like but all that is to say there was definitely a more than more than a handful of times where i would and i was the thing was i was very good at keeping my shit together when i needed to like i knew i knew exactly how to act so that nobody would get wind of of of what i was really going on for me because if they would have been aware of it they would have been like yeah you can't get on the flight you know and i don't miss having to make that calculation i'll

say one of my favorite things and this is not something you're supposed to do but one of my favorite parts of flying if i can get away with it is tampering with the smoke detector in the

tampering with disabling or that's the third one there's like three we're tampling tampering with

disabling or dis something else yeah right yeah i'm just thinking about things we're not allowed to do so yeah i guess i'm hitting the music here because i assume we're wrapping yeah we should

it sort of sounds like i got a flight to i got it first of all i got to get bombed and then i got to

get on a flight i know that the um i know that the airlines have a rule that you're not allowed to bring your own booze on but you're saying that tsa doesn't enforce the airline rules in the in other words i don't think that's

interesting i don't think well here's something this is great that the music playing so sorry elaborate on this no no this is good okay no i need to be hemmed in on this i i can tell you this andrew i have done some research on this from prior lives and one of the things the tsa literally says is we are not a drug enforcement organization. They are clear about it. They are not the DEA, and they don't really want to get into that game. And one of the things is basically, if you're not throwing something in their face, like if you're not trying to move bricks of cocaine or something, I think that they generally would rather not get tied up in drugs and alcohol. So I think it is a liquid, and if it's less than three ounces, they're not really messing with you. Yeah, that makes sense. Again, I'm not testing that theory. I heard somebody on another

podcast probably lebitard although i'm not sure like talking about how they get yeah i'm almost positive because i think put it on the pole gear mode you get nervous when you see the drug sniffing dog at the airport and i'm yelling at the podcast they're not drug sniffing they're bomb sniffing

dogs yeah i i yeah i've in my younger wilder days flew a few times with things that were not strictly supposed to be on the plane not bombs and was never messed with so but again that's a young man's game and i'm an old man wearing a mr rogers sweater who's reached the end of the broadcast week here on tbtl and i'd like to say to everyone thanks for listening thanks for hanging out with us uh we are going to be back here on monday with more imaginary radio for all of you so uh please if you can make some time for that uh in the meantime have a great weekend uh go sports uh football teams of whatever stripe that you root for and please remember no mountain too

tall and good luck to all just because you like laying around your house and your underpants doesn't mean the united states of america has to see it power out