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Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Spock, sabotage the system. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Oh, la, la. Coming to you from London's West End. That's right. Very mindful. We are in the United Kingdom, my friends. For the first time ever, actually, I think, bringing you at least half of this show from England. It's my first time being here. And it's very demure. Strikes me as a very demure, very mindful place that's almost indistinguishable weather-wise from the place where I live. Perched high above the mighty Columbia. So it feels familiar. As does the fact that we've arrived at episode 4,399 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. I made an absolutely critical decision yesterday. A split-second decision that changed the course of this entire week for the better.

Come on, brain. Think of things. Come on, brain. Be so smart.

I'm uncharacteristically proud of my decision-making, and I want to tell you all about that coming up. Also, yesterday was Super Bowl, and of course you had the game, you had Kendrick Lamar, you had the commercials.

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We'll take a look at all of that with this guy. He is the longest-running co-bro of the show. He might be best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace, and their power. He's really here to do one thing on this Monday morning. Here's my sweet stash. Let's freaking party. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

And I'm almost out of stashes. Not the best beginning of a week ever.

You know, honestly, it's early where you are. It really is. It's late. It's 6 at night here.

It's like 3 in the morning where I am. It's bananas. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, right. It's just really weird. No, it's 10 a.m., and, you know, my brain is just waking up. So I'll be hitting my stride probably around the time that I say good luck to all. Good luck to all. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But how was your, I have no jet lag on my end, just bad decisions as usual. How are you feeling over there across the pond, Luke?

I will tell you, the jet lag be hitting different this time versus in the summer when I went to Italy. I think because on that trip, we had to push through the whole day. We got there, the hotel was not ready to let us in. And so basically did the thing you're supposed to do, which is you just try to stay on your normal schedule in whatever the time zone is that you arrive at. This did not work that way. I ended up flying overnight. So from basically leaving Seattle on Sunday morning and then flying to New York and then changing planes and then flying here to London and then getting here at like 7 in the morning local time or something and then eventually making my way to this hotel and then just like crashing out for a few hours. But like I was, what I realized when I got in the room was because of course this is a different country, the charger for my laptop, which is critical, to this mission known as tbtl andrew uh you know i couldn't plug it into the wall here because it's a different thing and i have one of those converters but of course i left it at home i didn't think so i was lying on the bed and i was just thinking i need to get up and walk across this small hotel room

and pick up the phone and call the front desk and ask them if they keep any kind of chargers or converters around. And I spent at least one and a half hours trying to psych myself up to get up off of the bed and go over and pick up the phone. Have you ever had that kind of jet lag where it's physical, it feels like an 800-pound gorilla is sitting on you? You're not just tired, you're like tired in a different, weird, and only specific jet laggy way.

I haven't had a lot of jet lag because I don't travel internationally all that much, but I don't remember that exact feeling. I remember the weird thing for me was when I landed in Croatia, and I don't remember the ins and outs of when I slept and when I didn't, but I know I didn't sleep on the plane. And it was many, you know, we traveled across seas of time and time zones and everything. And I remember feeling almost manic by the time I got there. Like, I knew I was physically tired, but my brain was also sort of scrambled in this way that I felt like I really should sleep. But then I was also like, well, maybe I should sleep or maybe I should just pick up this building next to me and throw it into the sea. You know what I mean? I had this weird, I didn't do that. And then I think eventually I laid down and then I think I just conked out like a baby. But let me ask you this. When you describe this feeling of feeling like you have a weight on you and you were laying there and you were trying to psych yourself up for an hour and a half. Was that like you got into your hotel room? You're exhausted. did you actually crash out like actually sleep for a while then you couldn't motivate after waking up from this nap or you were somewhere in between sleep and being awake you couldn't move

but you couldn't sleep i slept for like three hours it took forever dealing with stuff at the airport and then the cab ride was was like i was actually excited to take a london taxi cab because you know famously the london uh cab driver test is supposed to be like incredibly rigorous do you know this whole no i didn't know that maybe it's a really specific we have listeners here in the uk that can explain it might be a a specific brand of cab but i know that there was a period of time where to be licensed as a cab driver in london you had to know every single street like it's almost like becoming a sommelier or something and so first first of all they don't really have lyft here and uber was being weird so i was like i'll just take a i'll take a johnny cab no i mean i'll take a human cab so i got in a london taxi and i was all excited about it but then it was such a i mean i'm staying in in you know a fairly central part of london as i understand it but it took for freaking ever to get here from heathrow so by the time i got to the room and got checked in and stuff it was like noon or something and then i just yeah i just sort of But conked out on the bed, slept for maybe three hours. But then I started having that feeling of like, well, more on this in a minute, because there was a snafu with my travel out here, which has got me kind of anxious, which is my bags. My suitcase did not make it out of New York City. Oh, yeah, I did.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So I was just kind of like lying on the bed, realizing I have I'm wearing this outfit. I have showered, but I'm wearing the same outfit that I put on in Seattle at the Hotel Crocodile at 7 in the morning on Sunday, including the same undershirt. You were like a different person then. Oh, my gosh. I really was. I called it an elevator. I called it a trunk of the car.

No, but I mean, I will tell you. I mean, that must have felt like when you travel like that and also you're traveling at the end of an event like that, like it must feel like you're like, who was this guy who put on this sweater all those years ago?

I know it's like it's like 24 hours ago or whatever, 30 something hours ago, I was standing in this lounge area at the Hotel Crocodile doing this little live wire presentation, which, by the way, that was really fun. And thank you to everybody who came out to that folks I got to chat with. That was really, really cool. But yeah, then it's like that's happening. And then all of a sudden I'm just like here in England and I'm wearing the same shirt. Right. Right. Because I'm, you know, I don't have any other options. And so what was happening basically was I was lying. I slept for a few hours, and then I started to feel, and this is not actually the typical for me. I started to feel very anxious, but in this kind of unfocused way that was like, I don't know if I'm going to have any clothes for this trip. Then how do I solve that? Where do I go buy socks and underwear in this neighborhood? Also, I can't plug my computer in. I know I need it later because I'm doing TBTL with Andrew. I'm also recording some Livewire stuff tonight at the hotel. and I just had this like I guess diffuse is the way to describe I had like this diffuse anxiety that was not allowing me to go back to sleep or relax but I was I had an 800 pound invisible gorilla standing on my chest so I was not doing anything about the problem I was just lying on the bed stressing and then eventually motivated enough to bathe myself and dial up to talk to you

it's interesting to hear your description of that because I think that that is a I think that that is very situational for you right now not that we all don't deal with our own episodes of anxiety or stress and some people deal with it more than others that type of um sort of displaced anxiety or whatever word you just used um or sort of non-centralized anxiety that description sounds like um I think what a lot of people like really struggle with and that's like it's a I don't think that that's even though I have a lot of anxiety I would I don't think I would describe my usual state of mind in that way but when I hear about people who really struggle with this stuff it's kind of like that it's kind of like I don't even we talk about this this sort of sounds a little bit Pat putting it this way I think but we talk about it sometimes in terms of cleaning and sometimes on the Spotless podcast and there are some connections for some people between mental health and that I mean honestly my relationship to cleaning is also related to mental health but I think different than what I'm about to describe which is like sort of that feeling of like I know that I need to do something about this mess around me but I don't know where to begin and when you And if you if you use like sort of like lowercase mess there, you could be talking about the pile of laundry that's been needed folding for five days. Or you can just talk about the mess of your life or the world, you know, as far as how you're looking at things in this particularly bad moment. And that just sounds like a terrible, a terrible thing, like sort of just feeling like there is so much that I need to do right now that I can do absolutely nothing. And that's a bad feeling of paralysis.

I will say that the thing that I feel lucky about with that is, for me, it's actually specifically related to stuff. In other words, I don't have any underwear. Andrew, try to contain yourself. I'm not wearing underwear right now. I am wearing pants. I'll show you. I don't.

You've got pants.

Let's not run any risks here. Well, listen, why are we using this expensive program, Riverside, if not for me to show you I'm wearing pants in England? Don't clip that, John. But basically, I had this anxiety about, like, is this broadcast going to work, you and I, because I'm in England. We haven't ever tried to do it. And I think my understanding of the Internet is it doesn't make a big difference, but it still feels kind of weird. Like, I'm further away from you. Again, I don't think that impacts anything. But I was like, the nice thing is, like, once my clothes show up, which they have, my bag has been at some point identified as just still being in New York. And now British Airways is going to have to get it to London, and they're going to have to get it to this hotel. but once I get the bag that'll be a relief now that this seems like it's working this is a relief so I feel the good news as opposed to there are folks that struggle with anxiety that it's so kind of unfocused and so not about an actual thing it's that Rick and Morty drop that you and I like to say to each other off air incorrectly which is like big fat brain misses chewing on big fat problems or whatever so I think this will I will feel better once I have my suitcase and once we've got a couple of these broadcasts under our belt. So that's good. At least there's something that can be sort of solved for it. Here's the thing, though, dude. I did this. First of all, for somebody who's always complaining about the travel experience, I have probably too much faith in the institutions of travel, maybe in the institutions of your country, Andrew, and that's your country now because I live in England.

Great. Congratulations.

I assume the institutions will hold in the U.S., as I was explaining to various people on my flight, which probably is a conversation they were really wanting to get into. I was just huffing on Americana. Shout out Antoinette.

I was just huffing on Americana through the Super Bowl. As I told Genevieve when she got home from watching the Super Bowl, I was like, I feel like I just put my lips to the tailpipe of jingoism and have just been huffing it for four hours. More on that in a moment. I was in a bad place by the end of the Super Bowl, man.

When I landed in New York, there was an hour or two of in-between flights where I had my Fubo going, had my Fubo working, but it just don't work on you um and so i was watching that's what i was texting like oh good brad pitt has logged on to the discourse like it's just like one bullshit anyway let's talk about that in a minute but this is the thing this was the this was the critical thing that i did yesterday morning in seattle washington at ctac that changed the course of this week andrew and i cannot underscore this enough my friend i so usually what i do if i'm going on a like a like a long trip like this so i have a very large suitcase like a humongous one that there's no it would be comical to try to get it onto the plane it's like we have left the bounds of even trying to pretend you couldn't fit it in that thingy and it's probably going to be wheels on

it like a little wimpy man as sylvester stallone would say yes it does have wheels and i can feel

the testosterone ebbing out of me every each step i take in the airport wheeling my luggage Even suitcases have wheels now.

That was the best. I mean, I don't have to identify it because everybody knows, but that was my imitation of Sylvester Stallone.

You know, that was an actual tape of it. No, that wasn't. So I basically, like, usually will throw, and I have this recording gear, I have this microphone and this little device called a MixPre. It's, like, totally essential.

to us being able to do this show and i put all of that stuff in a separate suitcase i basically created like not an emergency bag but i had the forethought somehow so i had a very small suitcase too that you can just like easily put in the overhead whatever the size of the flight you're on plane and i was like this is going to have my like my um you know overnight kit my my dop kit my deodorant uh it'll have the technical stuff for tbtl i was like i'm just not going to let this stuff out of my sight like this is going to be if if if things go sideways I will have the most essential things that I need which I can do the show with Andrew and uh I can brush my teeth so I was like so I but then when I was at SeaTac Sunday morning and I was checking my big huge bag I had a wild hair which was I'm just going to check the other bag because like I don't want to be dealing with and then all I have is my little kind of like computer bag you know I'm like i'm gonna check my emergency bag my emergency suitcase that i had made the decision was never going to leave my person i decided i was going to just check it because i don't know it'll be fine these things are scanned and tracked and tagged they just can't go missing they can't go into the ether like there's just too much too much digital tracking on these things and i put them both up on the thing and the woman is literally printing out you know the various and this part of the complication is my first leg of my flight was on alaska airlines and uh from from seattle to new york and then i switched to british airways and that seems to be now the whole ticket was it's the same ticket i bought the ticket through like alaska airlines but there seemed to be a little miscommunication between the two airlines and the my luggage getting on there but all that is to say as the woman is like putting the tag on the we'll call it the emergency bag i just as we used to say in the church a still small voice spoke to me and i just said you're gonna want that you're gonna need that so i just said i'm so sorry can i just i'm gonna keep this bag this smaller bag and i'll be darned if this is the first time i can remember in years maybe decades of my luggage not making it to the place that i'm that i'm going and i wanted this like i was pretty rung out this morning as you might imagine didn't get a lot of sleep on the flight overnight um was trying to watch the super bowl was hyping up the crowd on the plane was a whole thing

and uh you were trying to hype up the crowd for the eagles on the plane and my bets that i had

laid whilst on terra firma in new york i don't see you as somebody who's trying to engage much

with the people around you other than to be kind of polite and make sure that everybody's like you know maintaining a a polite distance or that was old luke andrew that's that's american when you

is a freaking riot you're just like as soon as we're wheels up at a jfk i'm a totally different

person there's a lightness you had a hat with two beers in it with straws coming a hundred percent

absolutely so um but so anyway all that is to say like i was i was pretty wrung out this morning but i was and i wasn't glad that my luggage was lost but golly was i glad that i made that decision to hang because we would be so screwed we would not be able to do the show i wouldn't be able to do the live wire stuff i have to do i mean it would just be a mess and also i wouldn't have any of my toiletries i mean i'm at least you know i like i said i took a shower and i put some deodorant on i'm feeling a little bit refreshed here but like it's just weird because i i nine times out of ten i just would have just said like yeah i'm checking both of these and then just like one less thing to deal with and for some reason i didn't do that yesterday and my goodness that really saved that really saved this at least probably i don't know when if when these bags are going to show up my other suitcase when it's going to show up it's still in new york there's a tracking app oh and that was the other thing dude my god british airways the people were actually very nice the people at the like lost luggage counter well not very nice the nice ish but the system it was the most comical thing again now just imagine i haven't pretty i really haven't slept in however many hours now i'm pretty fried and this woman is going well you um you've got to put all your information into this like ipad touch screen are you doing the accent is that the accent i i said hello governor that i'm doing the accent to everyone i speak to here in england

hello governor it seems my luggage has gone missing yeah as you oh you do that voice and they're just throwing your luggage literally into the river did you see that did you see

the tiktok video total chad hauled out of heathrow airport for doing offensive accent so this was so but again i i can't overstate this it's i was so tired and i was so just wanted to get back to the hotel and try to get a little bit of sleep i was so burnt out that also my luggage is this suitcase has not made it she's like well you have to punch you have to put all your information into this touch screen this ipad but like it doesn't work like if you're trying to hit so i'm trying to enter in manually my like all of this information it would be so much faster if she could type it in she has a keyboard she's at a desk yeah

Like, I'll tell you what it is, and you type, I type, I type, and it goes in. Instead, it's this wonky iPad that, like, the number 7 doesn't work on it, and, like, you have to touch it. She's showing me, you, it's like, it's foreplay.

You have to touch everything, like, to the left a little bit, like, one of those where the sensor is all just, like, a centimeter off, so you have to hit, like, between the K and the J in order to get the J type of thing.

And she knows this because she sits with this thing all day. she's like trying to show me how to like because i'm just like i'm putting in my phone number and stuff and it's just like not taking them i'm like hammering the like number three and she's like you got to do it like this and she just like gently puts like her finger up and kind of caresses the number three but like almost it's like a whisper of a touch of the number three and it goes on and i'm just like it i was then she's just watching me and then i'm just trying to put stuff in and then she's like no no you got to go back you did and it's like this is the most insane making process i'm standing here i don't know how to operate this ipad this weird ass british ass ipad and and and for some reason you have to just watch me do it and by the end eventually she just had the ipad back or had it you know and she was just putting it all in with her special touch because she knew how to do it but so they the the stuff has been located well for the first thing not to get too in the details of the story but the first thing is i go over to this aisle or this area and I talked to a guy and I said hey I was on this flight and he goes what's your boarding pass I go I don't know I somehow I got on it feels like I got onto that the British Airways flight without a boarding pass or maybe I left it on the plane I couldn't find it so it was like what were you on before and we traced it back and somehow he found the record number the record locator number for my bag so like we know that it exists so then he says well there's still stuff coming off number nine so go see if it's there so I go and I wait it doesn't come off i come back and i get this other woman angelica who is the one who's like you gotta type in that but the first thing she says is we don't have any record of your of your luggage we have no idea like she's like it's like an alaska airlines thing you were supposed to bring the tag to british airways i was like how am i supposed to do that i just i bought an airplane ticket i checked my bags i assumed that the system again too much faith in institutions andrew i just assumed that this thing is getting moved from one plane to another it's being tracked along with me like this seems like a pretty doable thing so she was like no we don't have any record of it and then the guy who would help me before goes no no no I have it over here and gives her like if I would have just encountered her first

I would have been so hosed

I would have been like and but not for nothing it's thousands of dollars of clothing in there including like a nice suit that I wear sometimes it's like it's all of the stuff that I wear the most that's why I washed it and brought it with me so it's just that factor alone would be annoying also not having anything to wear I'd probably have to wear like a chimney

sweep outfit here you know that's all they got but uh it's either that or or like really really rich british guy with a monocle bobby or a bobby monocle boy we used to have rolling stone or a keith moon you have to dress up like keith moon is that dynamite in your drumster um i did you just drive this car into the swimming pool i love the fact that there's probably some of our brit tens who are excited to hear about your adventures and then there's like oh i don't want to listen to

this show anymore I know I apologize I apologize and I've also done nothing literally like I got here to the hotel I've been kind of just sleeping and kind of hibernating in this room so I don't have any real great experiences to share yet but but all that is to say I am happy that I've got my stuff here at least the minimal stuff that I need to make the show with you so that is a good thing and I am I made some friends on the flight my whole area the the New York to JFK that was other thing i got up upgraded not into like first class but i got upgraded into like less bad coach okay and so that was a little weird because i would never you know on those international flights i'm not i'm guessing this was the same you know style of playing you and vives were on but like only on those really big flights is there a middle section so you've got you've got the kind of like maybe a pair of seats that are along the you know window and then you've in the middle of the plane got this like weird kind of landlocked thing which is my idea of hell generally but they upgraded me to this slightly better version of coach which involved being in the front row of coach so nothing in front of you like just a wall but you have plenty of leg room so i had been like my seat that i had selected before was this whole strategery where i was trying to pick a window seat but at the kind of way back of the plane so maybe no one would sit in the middle i was trying to just get a free like middle empty middle seat between me and some random stranger but then the person in New York was like well you got upgraded if you want to this like better version of coach and I was like but it means that now I'm sitting the very front of coach and I'm in that middle section but I'm like on the aisle if you can picture that I can so I immediately sit down and there's two actually it's two sisters and their brother they're all flying back to London they were visiting New York and having a fun time and we were

Thank you.

chatting it up and that they were to my left and then to my right was uh another young person from london who had been in boston for work and basically i got the wi-fi going and i put i'm watching because we're still just like taxiing so i'm on my fubo tv and i'm watching the beginnings of the super bowl and the woman to my right looks over and says oh is that the super bowl i said yeah and so i put my phone up on there was like a little ledge on the front of this wall of coach and i like put my phone up and then we're all watching the super bowl on my phone and by all of us i mean these like four people in my immediate area and i've of course told them all i'm like listen we got the eagles have to win this just we got to get a w and again i was thinking about this today when i knew we were going to talk about it which is i know we have listeners we have amazing listeners in kansas city and we have like i'm sure they're heartbroken today and i'm really really sorry for you and i was a big chiefs fan for many years i think there has been a lot of success and i you know i felt like there was something like we the we the we the we the people of america who don't agree with the current political situation we need some kind of a w somewhere and i swear to god the eagles winning and again no shade to anybody in kansas city but somehow the eagles winning however trumped up this whole jalen hurts has you know female representation or whatever it somehow just became like the people who are pretty cool with trump versus the guy whose entire management team is is all women and somehow that became the narrative in my mind i think in a lot of people's minds there just would have been a lot of tomahawk

chopping and everything if that game hadn't even been a blowout if it is even close there would have been probably 100 more shots of a crowd full of people wearing red throwing their hands in the air and doing something that i find pretty offensive like just being saved from that and certainly saved from that celebration was huge but so this was the thing that was happening and

this is how i ended up watching the super bowl which was the it would work for a little while and then it would just kind of freeze up yeah and then it would just be so we were just sitting there for hours like it was like we were watching the game we're all watching it on my phone and we're like high-fiving when the eagles go up like seven nothing and then it just like the wi-fi just does not support it for whatever reason for i don't know 20 minutes so now we're just making small talk we're chatting and then all of a sudden it kicks on and the eagles are up 24 nothing and there's jubilation in row 30 of british airways flight 176 we're all like high-fiving and freaking out and everybody's like because basically nobody on the flight cared much one way or the other but then when they learned that i was really wanting the eagles to win i'm trying to explain why the saquon barkley bet i had down was plus 1000 it's because he needed to both run in a touchdown and catch a touchdown i did not win that bet but i did win the eagles money line bet obviously what

did he get for yardage do we know not that we have to turn today's show into that but like everybody was like well he hit that 150 well he hit 150 he couldn't have gotten even close right

did he even get i don't see this is the thing oh you wouldn't yeah i i am very what i know is that what i know is that patrick mahomes threw a lot of interceptions and i know that the the eagles defense was stifling i heard they had six sacks and they didn't blitz once which is yes yes isn't that bananas yeah um and so but but it was but so it was a bizarre experience because i was i was in a certain way watching it with a crowd with a crowd of people like i was at a super bowl watching party but what we were allowed to watch was four minutes at a time separated by 20 minutes of total blackout um but it was it ended up being fun and of course i was happy that the eagles won i was happy that my my bet paid off and stuff but um it was and then we were trying to watch the you know the Kendrick Lamar halftime show which I have some real thoughts about actually can we get into

that sure I just want to say I was very proud I did uh Saquon Barkley 57 yards yesterday and I estimated 50 as I said the word 50 I was like am I going to be grossly wrong here and I'm going to have to beep it out later in the show but no it's very that because that's the way to not draw attention to it yes exactly it's a long sustained beep did Andrew have an aphasia I it's not that big of a deal and it's not an interesting place to take it I just know that one of the major storylines going into this wasn't even like I mean obviously who will win and who will lose but like what will Saquon Barkley do and will he get that hundred I don't know why 150 was the line I don't know if that was a record or what but like everybody's like will he get 150 yards and then and I don't know because they just were able the the Chiefs defense was just ready for it I guess and so even though um the Eagles did really well they pretty much shut down Saquon Barkley he broke through a couple of times i remember one like 15 yard or something like that so uh that's the only

reason i bring that up yeah i this i'm also wondering if you know the game got out of hand so quickly that if it just kind of changed some of the play calling and some of the dynamics all that would generally tend to usually running plays which you think would benefit saquon but but um no it was like a fun weird way to watch it but then we were watching the um we actually got pretty good coverage of the kendrick lamar halftime thing um which which was also an interesting way because this we don't have the volume up we just have it's just like kendrick lamar you know doing his thing and we're all commenting on it we're all having this big conversation but none of us are listening to him because i have the volume down on the phone i'm not like blasting you know the actual audio of this thing so it's kind of a closed caption sort of process but i went back and re-watched it and i read the many pieces written about it including somebody at the new york times trying to make the case that the big takeaway from the super bowl was

he wore bell bottoms everybody said that's the number one takeaway from his halftime show everybody's like bell bottoms bell bottoms everybody's freaking out about bell bottoms being back and by the way i thought it was going on than bell bottoms i thought it was a really i thought it was a really cool look actually that he did have and i did notice the bell bottoms i was really thought it was funny that like wow that's the main takeaway from this is the bell bottom

Here's the thing, though. I went back and watched it. His opening stuff, this is just my opinion, and I told you it's a hot, hot take. It's a spicy take here on this Monday morning. That's why people turn to us, the show of record when it comes to Super Bowl halftime shows. I think some of Kendrick Lamar's Rapping is kind of It's like bad It's kind of like bad slam poetry Like it's not particularly well constructed To me like lyrically Like Not Like Us is such a catchy song It's crazy catchy Like and I get Why it's so popular and I love that song Don't get me wrong I mean I love listening to it It's a bop but like When he's starting out Literally the first like minute of what he was doing When he's like on the car talking it's like this sounds like 11th grade poetry to me this is not good like it's just so and then the other thing is i was i was listening to the daily this week about the beef between uh kendrick lamar and drake and here's something that i did not realize until they were interviewing the correspondent for the times there are no credible allegations against drake of pedophilia like that's an internet rumor like it is there's no there are no there are not lawsuits there is not an investigation into him it's some internet bullshit and you've got like america singing probably a minor like and which is like i kind of feel like is sort of gross like we're accusing this listen he's he's a cornball but we're accusing him of being a pedophile because some internet rumor that tends to dog any really famous person like that's kind of weird to me yeah i don't feel that

way i mean i think that it is an internet rumor you think drake is a pedophile do i think drake is a pedophile probably not i think these dated underage girls i think he's i think these there are there's you know plenty of photos of him with like extremely young women compared to his age and i'm sure like would you be shocked to hear that so i think that's what it is and like we're breaking down a i mean that's the whole thing about this rap battle is he went to court which is sort of a it's it's a rap battle people say stuff like are you like ped i think that their case is i think

his case is that pedophilia is a is a is a hard line because people that just could really like that's different than your you know he called kendrick lamar short or something i think that's

his argument so i don't uh do your question for me is do i think drake is a pedophile i guess i'm not well read up on that enough but i also just don't i think that just sort of is not the question on my mind right now i thought that was an incredible performance i thought the way that he kept teasing it like again there aren't a i mean you can gin up any kind of like sort of storyline but i thought the way he handled it like is going into the super bowl like will he play that song is it inappropriate there's a lot of questions about that teasing it with the beat like that was really effective for me i can't remember a time when i i mean again i had a lot going on kind of emotionally that i brought to the super bowl which was just like again like seeing all of this patriotic stuff and having the dictator there and just like just it I was just in a really really bad place so then just seeing Kendrick Lamar's like sure just like very black very standing in in front of of this crowd and doing his own version of patriotism was like really moving to me like that was amazing yeah you needed that I needed that and then and then And I thought it was really well done. He kept on teasing with the beat of Not Like Us and then going to it. I just thought as far as a performance is concerned, I was sitting there. I was texting with a buddy. I'm like, my heart is racing right now. I think that was a top. I would say for me, I've been trying to think about it, not that I have to rank everything. But when I talk about Super Bowl performances and rank them, I mean during my era of watching and caring about the Super Bowl. So, unfortunately, that takes Prince out of it. Like, I only know Prince's performance as a sort of historic performance, you know? What about the Blues Brothers? The Blues Brothers is probably number one. I guess that's where I always go. When was that? I don't even know. Was that, like, way back before? I don't even remember. I just...

I saw somebody on TikTok ranking the worst Super Bowl halftime shows, and they said the Blues Brothers, and I was like, the Blues Brothers were the Super... And obviously, it wasn't Belushi. I mean, it wasn't John Belushi. He would have been... I don't think John Belushi was maybe... I think it might have been either Jim Belushi and Aykroyd. Oh, it was the reboot. Or was it John Goodman? I don't know. I'm a little worried about searching for things on my computer now, but was there a Blues Brothers Super Bowl performance that involved a fill-in for John Belushi?

Well, there was a second Blues Brothers movie, which I think you know, which John Goodman played, which is why you said that. So I don't, this is the first I'm hearing about this, so I'm not exactly sure when or where that was.

I hear what you're saying, though. I hear what you're saying. Like, I think this has to do with the difference in, like, how we were experiencing. Like, again, I'm on an airplane, which kind of muted. Then I watched it later at the hotel room. And again, I did really, like, that song slaps. I think I've just had it in my head since I listened to this episode of The Daily where they're breaking it down, you know, in the way the new york times does the whole origins of the fight and then i will just admit that like so natalie kitchrow if the interviewer was asking i think it's joe cascarelli the music writer um are there any allegations of pedophilia against drake are there any credible allegations and he says absolutely not and something inside me just shifted because i just kind of assumed that there was something going on that that was a known thing that we're he's getting outed on And then Joe Cascarelli was saying, basically, what's happened is Drake is really famous. And when you're really famous on the Internet, there will always be some websites that are talking about how you're like some kind of a groomer, some kind of a trafficker, some kind of a whatever. And like that, I don't know why I just had not done any research on it. And so hearing that made me just think, again, I don't like I'm not I'm not trying to defend Drake except on any level, except for the fact that it would really kind of suck if if, you know, and he's a big boy, he can handle it. And he's very wealthy and whatever. By the way, his lawsuits were kind of interesting. I don't know if you've read in on it.

Can I just say one other thing, though? I mean, it's just sort of I guess the problem I'm having answering this and I just need to think about it more is kind of like it. I would almost argue that the if we're going to be breaking down, like, was this fair is like, what about Kendrick literally putting a Google Maps image of where Drake lives and essentially put I mean, the history of rap battles. and again, I'm not defending them here, is like literally putting targets on people. Actually, somebody – oh, there was a wonderful post I saw on Blue Sky yesterday that said something like, nobody has lost a rap battle this badly, and that includes people who have been shot and killed over rap battles. Oh, wow. So anyway, like I'm not trying to be callous about it, but it's just sort of like, well, I don't know at what level are we analyzing this. Are we analyzing this in the history of rap battles and in that genre or are we analyzing it in terms of like New York Times fact checking? You know what I mean? Like that's just not kind of those are two very different ways to approach what is fundamentally what is going on between these two performers. And maybe the whole maybe that whole idea of a rap battle is just like dangerous and it should be maybe maybe we should all just moralistically sort of say there's no place for it. But it is what it is. And I was read up on it. I'm also just a really big fan. i mean i'm not a really big fan but like kendrick lamar's i not his first record but that that kind of breakout and again it's very mad city with that one i mean i loved some of the tracks off of that but the one that i listened to as an album over and over and over was to pimp a butterfly which definitely gets poetry stuff that you probably wouldn't be totally into but like it was the first record that i had heard in a long time where i was obsessed with the whole thing because it it's cert it's um what's the word i'm looking for it's sort of cyclical like the album ends exactly where it begins sort of so you could literally put it on a loop and it almost never ends like there was just a lot about that record and where i was at the time and it just touched me in a certain way back when i was living in la and like so it meant so much to me i'm not like ride or die for all of his stuff in fact his next album damn like it was a little bit hit or miss for me the big stepper whatever that one was like i had kind of not a lot of use for that one because i felt like it wasn't really for me but generally speaking i am very intrigued and very into the brand of him so maybe i'm a little bit already there well that's and that's something

that they were on this episode of the daily we're saying that has been interesting about it is that kendrick lamar is not a person who was really into like getting into internet fights with other rappers and that's drake's whole thing and you know drake is seen as this kind of sort of maybe slightly fake person or whatever or like a chameleon and he's always getting into it with people and kendrick lamar was kind of like had his head down just like making music that was really really about the lyrics and really about you know compton and his life etc and so the idea that like drake went and like basically picked this fight and then just got utterly and i mean i'm i'm not disagreeing with that i mean this was like this was an a defenestration of drake's very soul you know think he watched do you think he watched it live i was wondering about like i think everybody was

like where is a bomb shelter somewhere i mean just think about that and honestly that i don't even take that much pleasure and by the way i don't fully hate drake like i i don't really care that much although i mean obviously i think that you know i think this whole thing is kind of funny but like i think has there ever been a time when like i mean people have been humiliated before i I do it to myself daily on the show. People have been humiliated on grand stages before, but how many people have had the experience of whatever Drake experienced yesterday with a crowd of thousands of people saying that line?

Let's add this to the list, Andrew. Let's get the harp music, sir. The harp music. I'm going to take you back to two Sundays ago when it was the Grammy Awards and Kendrick Lamar was winning, I want to say, like, five Grammys for much of it surrounding the song, you know, Not Like Us. And you have the entirety of, you know, your community. You've got your Taylor Swifts. You've got your, you know, I can't, that's Rihanna probably. I can only name three famous singers. You've got, like, and they are all in this room at the Grammys bouncing and saying probably a minor like what a to weaponize that song in that way so that drake's like all the people that you know six years ago he's at the grammys or five years ago or four years ago he's at the grammys and now it's like everyone there is singing a song about how he's

a chimo like it's wild and also like will i was thinking about this last night like will he ever like drake has to release another album at some point right and if he does he can't just ignore this so he has to respond in some way but what we've learned and i think that he must realize now is however he responds is going to be weak tea right like there's just nothing he could ever possibly do that would raise to this so in a certain way i mean maybe he releases something introspective and actually maybe like maybe actually just eat some shit like i don't know maybe he could do that he's kind of emo i just don't know where do you go from here this is your you go back to um fast times at ridgemont i know i messed it up degrassi you go back to degrassi high the reunion i don't know you go back to wheels ontario go back to wheels ontario like i just don't know what drake does now i mean i was having this thought the other day when i was

listening to that episode of the daily that like essentially when he filed the lawsuit i think he was retiring from rap music because like his basic and i do think the lawsuit is kind of interesting because part of the case is you know he has the same he's on the same label as kendrick they're both on umg and one of his arguments is umg knew that that drake's contract was coming up and they They were about to re-sign his contract, and they knew that if they let Kendrick Lamar just absolutely pwn him in the public space, it would drive down Drake's value so they could sign him for a smaller deal. That's one of the contentions in the lawsuit.

Oh, I had not heard of that. I knew that they were on the same label and that there were some issues with that, but I did not know that that was one of the – which is an interesting allegation. Yeah, and UMG is like, why would we – Oh, sorry. Go ahead. What are they like?

Nothing, just that UMG is like, why would we try to devalue one of our most valuable assets, i.e. Drake?

And who would think that Kendrick would ever listen to a record label that tells him not to say something? And also, these were diss tracks. I don't think they were officially released on the label, right? I don't think that this – when they were swapping this stuff, I think they were both just going into their studio and just releasing things online that some of it ended up to Spotify. But I don't think it was going through the usual, like, label process.

I know what you mean, although I do think that they must have become, in Drake's mind, complicit enough, according to the guy that I was listening to from the Times, to where, like, they mentioned that cover that you mentioned, this, like, aerial photo of Drake's house with these, like, flags on it that are indicating where, like, child predators are or something or whatever. like that basically Drake but but here's the other thing Drake is not suing Kendrick Lamar he's suing the label yeah which I also think is funny because I feel like it if he were to sue Kendrick Lamar directly I mean that capitulation I mean the the sheer the sheer grandma driving you home from the rap battle-ness of that it's just like impossible to quantify so um yeah I I don't think there's any way he can come back from I think he really was like look he's mad he feels like he's getting done wrong he thinks uh that he actually has some legal standing to make money off of this and figured you know if i'm gonna never gonna be a hot rapper again at least least I could have a hundred million dollars in my pocket from this lawsuit like or maybe not maybe he's like I'm Drake I will be able to figure this out but I would yeah it seems really really hard to come back from and again just the idea that like this song is a hit and then everybody like singing the song about how you suck and and again it's all of these people that you have maybe have collaborated with or you know would like to collaborate with or hold in high esteem I'm talking about the Grammys now I mean and then and then you're right Andrew cut to the largest television event in the world whatever it is 100 million people or something watching super you cannot on this planet with the current alignment of how humans are you can't find a bigger stage than Kendrick had like I actually was like out of my mind yesterday thinking would it have been

amazing if he brought Drake out yeah well there was like a beef squashed right yeah there was some there was some like not rumor but like speculation of it like leading up to this here's what I you know i i did not plan on necessarily taking the conversation here but as we're talking about it just sort of feels like a natural thing to maybe bring up is obviously i haven't done a lot of reading i haven't done any reading actually of kendrick's performance yet sort of post-mortes of it i just was like in the moment like kind of enraptured by it um and obviously it was a bit there were you know like by having um uh samuel jackson as uncle sam and everything like there was a national speaking truth to power i thought it's really interesting that like literally not one not one white cameo not one white dancer like it was a it was a celebration of blackness which i thought was like really important where we are right now but you also need to know like i'm coming into this like watching this shit with the navies flying their planes above hand showing trump and like you know i know that he is technically the president technically no i know that he won the election and is the president of the united states i'm not trying to pull I'm not trying to pull what they were pulling four years ago. But my point is, I think I can almost say literally sickened by the state of affairs right now. And one thing that I think is confusing me is, and I want to make this very clear, this conversation can spin out of control really fast here, but I'm not doing anything other than being sick, right? So I'm not trying to say why isn't anybody doing anything, but I did see, I think you probably saw this too, a post by Chuck Schumer a while back saying, write to your lawmakers.

About pizza?

I don't know if it was the pizza one, but it's like, make sure you're writing to your lawmakers. And somebody was like, lawmaker to voting public, write to your lawmakers. What is going on? Yeah. It just sort of feels like, and I don't know what I want people to do, and I don't know what I should be doing. And I know I'm going to get a lot of emails with addresses of my lawmakers that I should write to. So what I'm trying to say here is I'm in a very sort of I don't even know, fragile state or upset state, just generally speaking right now, as I think a lot of people are. I will be the first one to say that there's I'm not taking a lot of action on that other than just like sort of just trying to sort of figure out existentially how this all is going to play out in my role in it. but there are things that might not even make a difference in the grand scheme of things that i'm just surprised i'm not seeing and i i'm like i was like when i saw john batista i was just kind of like did anybody think maybe i should boycott this maybe the day before say i'm not going to do it because trump is here and this will be this will catch the attention of the country if i don't do the national anthem if it and and if i say why you know what i mean sometimes like there's just doesn't seem to be anybody doing any grand gestures and saying the reason we're doing this grand gesture is because we're not talking about the democracy burning around us and that's why i told you i didn't want to do the show today and you're like you're just hung over and i was like no it's about patriotism you're like you gotta do the show today walsh um no because he's probably hung over anyway i don't do you am is anything i'm saying landing because i'm just kind of surprised there are not any grand gestures and i just sort of feel like i was talking to somebody this weekend who's like a long long long time friend of mine i don't want to he could hear this so i'm not trying to castigate him but he's you know he's got a family but he's the person who when we were young i didn't care about world events i didn't think i didn't think anything outside of my bubble he's kind of the man who taught me how to think more globally and when i talked to him this weekend he's like i'm just trying to take care of my family like that's all we can do like just like don't look at the news as much and i was just like we're just beaten down like nobody's making it even if the grand gestures are just silliness like i could use a grand gesture right now i could use somebody saying i could use kendrick saying i'm out of here if that man is watching me i could see somebody just saying like i will not share a space with this dictator and

i'm just we're just not getting any of that yeah i keep seeing these headlines like where are the Democrats, you know, and then I don't read the article because it'll make me depressed, which is

like such a mess.

up reaction but you know what i mean that's i know exactly what you're talking about it's like it's like it feels yeah it it feels it feels like we we need some people even if yeah even if you're kind of spitting into the wind it's like you still got to do it we still it would be nice to see some very public very uh kind of awkward making well i did see a picture of a kansas this you know what shout out to the kansas city chiefs fan who just threw up the biggest double bird ever to

donald trump at the game there's this picture did you see like looking are you sure that wasn't uh the old one because there's a famous one from a while back and a lot of that stuff is being regurgitated in the internet maybe you might have seen a new one but just be careful about that

because i'm pretty sure i might have got got but well whenever it happened in time and space this kansas city chiefs fan throwing up a double bird to donald trump it was uh i i salute you sir we need more people like you now i will tell you andrew as far as grand gestures go i can

confirm that roblo did wear his nfl hat yesterday did he really oh i didn't see that god i was so

locked in when was that pre-game that you saw it no i had to do some sleuthing i was on like a weirdo tiktok as i was trying to summon the courage to get up off the bed today walk across the room i started scrolling tiktok uh it's a lot more british over here tell you what oh yeah it's

it's aware that i'm in england you're for you has sort of changed to more british stuff

i mean you know you're just going through so much content it's just i mean it would be really shocking to actually quantify it but like i would say you know one out of every 10 videos might be some british person doing like a funny british thing that i don't think i would have necessarily gotten you know uh in the states but um uh so somebody with the super bowl and she was saying what a random assortment of celebrities because she was in one of those luxury boxes and she scrolls with her phone over to this other luxury box that had like Jon Hamm in it Gordon Ramsay Nick Cannon and then she just mentions in passing oh and Rob Lowe and you don't just see that Rob Lowe's wearing a black hat that's all you can see and I'm like I gotta figure out what's going on with this enhance, enhance, enhance so then I went and found these others like Rob Lowe Super Bowl 2025 and there he is with his NFL

hat that's really cool actually because at this point of course he knows i think he's been at late night shows talking about it right like it's obviously a uh yeah it's a huge meme i love now has to do that yeah i kind of want to do that like i wonder mlb i honestly wonder if nfl hats it's like just the shield hats with just the shield well that's kind of where you're going

yeah oh me in a way i mean yeah yeah i mean i think on the one hand you you rightfully you decry the overall thing that is the NFL but then also are you're more about like being excited for Lamar Jackson or being excited for this team or that team as opposed to like living and dying by how the Cleveland Browns are doing right so you're almost kind of more of a fan of the idea of football or good football being played yeah you know one thing that I heard and I'm blanking on

her name now but do you remember that the Browns had a coach it was the first female NFL coach She was an assistant coach. You might not have followed it. I don't know how big of a story it was. It was still when I was watching the Browns, so at least three seasons ago, but I think like maybe more five seasons ago or something. And Sarah Spain, I can't remember her name, it's Carrie something, but Sarah Spain, the ESPN host and commentator or whatever, personality, has a podcast, and I saw her promoting that Carrie, this coach, was going to be on it. And I had a feeling that there was going to be more sizzle than steak in this one. said something like and she'll talk about what it was like working on a team with the conch when there's a controversial player on it or something like that it was like just sort of a promo and a tweet and i was like i'll bite and i gotta say most of the interview was not about that like you could really feel especially you and i being me sort of in this industry you can sort of tell when you want somebody on the show because you want them to talk about one hot button topic but You can tell that there was an agreement in advance that we're not going to go too deep on this and we're going to celebrate women's sports and the other slightly more fluffy side of things. You could sort of tell that she was like Sarah was sort of probably allowed one question on this and the coach was going to say what she was going to say. But the one thing that she did say, which was not a lot, but she did sort of point to Andrew Barry and Stefanski, what's the Browns coach's name? She just sort of alluded to, she said, I will just, Kevin Stefanski, thank you. She just said, I will just say that there were good people in the room and she called them out specifically. So I don't know exactly what was going on behind the scenes there, but I've always sort of like, why are we talking about the Browns? I'm so sorry. I just caught myself where we are. What are we doing? You're in England and it's the day after the Super Bowl. And I'm talking about Kevin Stefanski behind the scenes.

But I don't know. I just always liked that guy.

That just felt like you just woke up in the middle of surgery.

I told you I'd wake up by the end of the show. What am I doing? You just surfaced. I need more propofol.

Five cc's.

Yeah, but anyway, I was glad to hear it. If there's any truth to that, and if this woman was somebody who was very concerned about this issue, which I believe she would be, and she specifically said, there's not a lot I can say about this, but there were good people in the room, and I want to shout out Kevin Stefanski, that made me feel good to know that because I want to like Kevin Stefanski and I was hoping that he was not somebody who was pushing to have Deshaun Watson come to the team. I mean, I think that maybe he just had to, you know, play the hand he was dealt. It's a card term, Luke, I don't know if you're familiar.

Oh, would a person unfamiliar with cards have Googled London casinos already?

I actually have not done that, believe it or not. It's in Little America.

little america little vegas great i feel like the again i don't want to put too much on this and i don't you know again i just keep thinking about our listeners in kansas city or who are kansas city fans and they're just awesome lovely people i don't want it to feel like i'm trying to make them the villain in this at all but it did feel like and you're right i mean i started by saying i was a little the actual very opening of the kendrick thing the lyrics were a little struck me as a little maybe slam poetry for me but that being said like the eagles winning really took on a big importance to me as being like a we got it there has to be like the idea of like the chiefs winning and like you know britney mahomes like high-fiving donald trump as it happens it just was just too much for me i didn't even see that i'm just i just know that she's on the record as being pro-trump yeah yeah what's happening is all these people are coming out of the woodwork you know and like yeah they were i think rightfully ashamed the first time around but now they're totally emboldened just be like whatever it's being normalized which is one of the things that's so crazy making but like i i had this real thought i was like i wonder if the eagles winning the super bowl and kendrick lamar performing at halftime if this could usher in a series of w's for us and i don't know what that looks like but like we need we needed something to go right and the eagles winning the super bowl was that something going right like and the analogy i keep using with people is like i feel like if you flip a coin 50 times it's it's you know it's it's it's unlikely but it's possible that it could just go heads 49 of the 50 times and you just be like what is going on with this but if you do that a thousand times it's going to end up being roughly 500 to 500 it's going to regress to the mean and i feel like we're in a moment where the coin just keeps freaking coming down donald trump you know and it's just i but i don't think that is the permanent state of things i think there will be w's for for for you know good people of of of good conscience in this country and that again i'm clearly grasping that's why i would make the super bowl into something like this but it felt to me like maybe this could usher in you know this can usher in some w's i don't know i don't i don't think it's literally connected to politics but it's like if to take it back to the football thing sometimes your team plays really bad in the first half and then they come out in the second half and like they do the kickoff and the other team muffs the kick and you suddenly get the ball and it's all of a sudden like you're like a different team like well shit you score a touchdown your defense gets it together suddenly your offense is clicking like things are streaky i think i'm just like life is streaky games are streaky to some degree politics is streaky and it's just been a really really bad streak of late but i could see the streak changing uh you know and that's again this is just stuff that i invent to keep myself from you know fully falling into the void but i felt like man maybe maybe the eagles would do the super bowl handily uh with a black quarterback in a historically very black city of new orleans

with kendrick lamar playing doing it in their their sport all these manga people aren't both quarterbacks black in this case oh yeah mahomes as well yeah yeah good point i guess i just somehow the eagles became they took on this like it's like they might as well have been started starting Colin Kaepernick for my money like we just need the Eagles need to represent everything that's pushing back against MAGA culture in my mind so anyway just are you saying what I think you're

saying which is that um Baker Mayfield will be hoisting the Lombardi trophy this time next year is that what I'm hearing this is starting this is the first domino it starts now this is the first

second domino is I get my underwear back okay British Airways and the third domino is Baker

mayfield wins the super bowl okay listen i think we need to take a break for a couple of reasons because of the time and um because i have a technical issue here that i will tell you about during the break that i need to fix before i run out of batteries and a backup recorder but um when we come back i'm confused about something that is fundamental to everything that we've talked about which is um why you're in england and We You know, if there's a chance that you're going to have to show up for whatever your work event is in clothes that are not proper or whatever, like because we haven't really talked about like what the end game here is and what the most possible embarrassing situation for you could possibly be. So I'd like to delve into that. Thank you for being a 10.

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I don't, you know, I was going to say that's not an area that I have spent a lot it's an area that i have not spent enough time in i will put it that way well this is because you

have not been working on your friendship with sir mixalot who famously lived in auburn i don't know if he still lives there but he but he did live there for a long time he usually comes up to my place because i got a cardboard yeah well that's i've noticed that's kind of your move it's like you got to bring the mountain to muhammad that's right it's gonna come to your place it

is true i did that a couple of it wasn't this weekend it must have been the last weekend And I was just sort of like, I feel like doing something, but I don't feel like leaving. Can everybody just come here and we can all just drink beer and listen to records? That's very much 22-year-old Andy in effect there.

Soralia Pollack is in Cedar Park, Texas. Nice. Thank you, Soralia. Thanks to Kim Anderson, who's in Seattle, Washington.

Kim was over here throwing darts with us the other day, I think.

Yeah, and beat you, right? And you were pretty sore about that. I am not speaking.

Yeah, I'm not on speaking terms with Kim right now.

Yeah, you're definitely a known sore loser. House rules. Has anybody, do you ever play, I know you play with Dart Bot. I know maybe Veeves sometimes, but when you have people over, does a competitive round of darts break out?

Yeah, definitely. I specifically had people over to, I don't even, you know what it was? This is such a corny thing, but it's absolutely true. i had gone to the record store or something and i got that first mgmt record you love that record too right it's so good i'm blanking on the name of it right now but everybody can picture it and it's got like the this i believe the side a has like three of the biggest bangers from the early 2000s right um and or let's see no that would have been about 2015 or something i think but anyway that record i was just like god i love this record i'm like people should come over and listen to this record and throw darts and so oracular spectacular yes oracular spectacular exactly and um and so that's got the youth on it it's got kids it's got like all the all the songs that we know and love and i was just like carrying the record home on the bus and i was just like we got to have people over we got to listen to this record and throw some darts so yeah we definitely i i know that um and i don't always win by the way i i want to make that that's what i was wondering

about is there anybody that can give you a run for your money in your friend group um the last

time folks were over i do think i won all the rounds i i will say that hauser comes over to play darts with me sometimes he is jay dog yeah how do you come up with those nicknames he um he is probably my stiffest competition we had a we had a we play this game where you have to get a double to end the game it means you have to get in the outer ring of the of the board and specifically whatever number you're shooting for you know it's a very specific way and the game will just keep going on and on and on until somebody does that and he and i were having some beers and i can't remember this is like a month or two ago and like i know i can't speak to his uh sobriety but i will say as my sobriety got weaker and weaker which is how we use how we talk about these things like we just kept all we needed like because we had tied i believe you have to play five legs and we had tied two to two and this was the final leg and somebody just needed to get out at that point it was like anybody just get the double will somebody please end this game and of course the longer it goes on the worse i am getting at it and i think i think i ended up finally getting it but it was pretty funny so

yeah i get a run for my money from time to time that would be like when peter williams and i would play we would play foosball against each other but it would be best out of seven but each one was itself a best out of seven oh god this is called being like 14 this is called having nowhere to be so it'd be like you would have to win a you have to you know get four out of seven that would give you one and then you need to do that four times we would play for like hour i mean

hours and days best of 49 that classic right to 49 thanks also to gail schreiber's of edmonds washington hey thanks gail really arby's thanks gail truly arby's exactly and then i'm thinking

on arby's here in old london town you should ask the front desk i'm actually very curious about the food because i mean you know london is a very cosmopolitan city i'm sure there's great food but i've also heard famously that like a lot of you know let's just say british culture is not always known for it's you know it's it's cooking style um like things being boiled a lot a lot of you know bangers and mash i almost thought i went by a place that looks like a carvery are you familiar with this whole carvery culture no again i'm sorry this is so tedious for our listeners that are here in England or who have lived here. But I think my sense of it is it's kind of can be a sort of a Sunday tradition. And what it means is like mashed potatoes and gravy and and maybe turkey or ham or like it's a kind of real kind of cozy home kind of cooking meal.

Some sort of name because you have to carve the meat. It's like some sort of meal. Presumably carving a roast or carving a bird.

Something like that. And it's just called a carvery like, oh, we're going to get a carvery dinner. We're going to get a carvery like that's a like that's a term. And I was in the taxi cab going past a carvery, and I thought, maybe I'm going to have to, I mean, when in London, I may have to get my London carvery on at some point, even though I don't generally eat a ton of meat.

What is your, I mean, but what is your, aside from being there and wanting to sort of like try the culture, you don't seem to desire a lot of meat these days. I feel like, you know, when you first started, like, kind of curbing some of your meat consumption, which was quite a while ago now, by the way.

I believe in X of mine said it's the only thing I've ever stuck with in my life, which is not wrong.

Well, I mean, I've always appreciated and respected your approach to it. You didn't just say, hey, I'm a vegetarian. You were always very careful to say I'm not using the word vegetarian. I'm just making some changes in my life as they seem right to me now. And you've sort of curbed your meat consumption and continue to do so. I think it's, you probably eat it more rare.

I curbed my meatthusiasm.

I was going to say show title and then I was like, no, never. But anyway, point is, I was talking to Vives about this recently, specifically your journey because she was looking for a restaurant for us to go to the other night and was sort of like keeping in mind the fact that you don't eat a lot of meat. And anyway, all of that is to say, I was, I was just sort of like thinking about your journey and I feel like you probably eat less meat now than ever. And I feel like I'm hearing less of kind of like, well, when I'm here, I might sort of like, quote unquote, cheat on this or have a little meat. So all of that is to ask you, you say, maybe I'm tempted to try a Carvey. Does that even sound good to you, though, now? Not really. Yeah. Well, no.

No, you know, the mashed potatoes sound really good. Yeah. Yeah.

But like, is there any meat out there? Like, well, if I were in this situation, like, shout.

Well, I'll tell you this. This summer, Becca and I are going to this place called Milkweed, the Milkweed Inn in Michigan. It's this – Lane Regan is the proprietor, and they are a great chef. i think a michelin star chef who i interviewed them when they wrote a book um uh and then because they were a big big star chef in chicago and then decided to buy this little tiny like kind of bed and breakfast campground thing in michigan in like the middle of nowhere and you can sign up to go out there for a weekend and every piece of food you eat is made by lane and i don't know if they have a staff there or not but like that's going to be and you know i look at the pictures it's incredibly well presented but it's a lot of the menu let's pre-tape some

shows because that might be the last i ever see of you yeah right but like so that's going to be

a weekend where i mean the whole point of it is to have all this food that's been prepared very expertly but i have a feeling it's heavy on the like you know we just trapped this cornish game hen running through the campground and stuff so so for i'm going to try for that weekend just to be like listen i'm eating what they put in front of us because i'm paying a lot of money for this and this is the whole experience i'm not going to be like you know so but as far as like you know big meaty things i don't really i don't really create you know steaks and stuff anymore much although i have been thinking it's funny i was talking about this with one of the nurses when i was coming out of my colonoscopy because she lives not far from me because i was telling her about how oh she was mentioning something about one of her daughters living in a town called elma washington and i said oh you know i'm actually going to be going up to elma because they have a there's a like a sustainably run you know farm there that has meat and you can go up and i think you can literally like just get eyes on the cows and the like the circumstances of of their existence and there's a farm store where you can buy this stuff and i have been thinking about integrating a little bit more red meat back into my diet but only of the most like heavy duty ethical you know it's literally like that portlandia sketch right

like well can we kind of is i know literally they say can we go meet the cows and then they do and

i don't know they look at their no i'm literally like that's my plan so i may i mean the thing that i'm still definitely trying to stay away from is the is the the kind of you know meat industrial process because i really can't support that but like um i'm not against i'm not against eating meat but that being said i do think over time my taste has actually changed a little bit to where you know i just am kind of you know i don't i'm not craving that stuff if i did the carvery it would literally be because i feel like i have to because i'm in i'm in england that's why you know like bangers and mash like a banger does not actually sound particularly great to me but it's like i don't know you know you're in england you might have to try it that sounds Do we have one more person to thank you?

We most certainly do.

Mike Croshaw of Western Springs, Illinois.

Thank you, Mike. Famous for their carvery. Exactly. And thank you for, you know, I did look up carvery in the Wikipedia page. By the way, I didn't type in British carvery. It says, well, I typed in, I guess, carvery dinner. But I noticed that the photo they have is actually of a place in the Midwest here in the States. I don't know if you remember being here in the United States, Luke. But a carvery is a pub or a restaurant where cooked meat is freshly sliced to order for customers, sometimes offering unlimited servings in a buffet style for a fixed price. Oh, no, here it is, though. Here's the line that we were looking for. The term is most commonly used in the United Kingdom, Ireland, Canada and Australia. So I guess whatever. I guess the reason they just use this photo from Dearborn, Michigan is because it was the one that they had on hand.

So, yeah, well, I'll keep you posted if I do get up to any carvery here while I'm in England. thank you to all of our donors thanks for making tbtl possible now andrew you were before we wrap this up today you were asking me what is going to happen if i don't have any clothes if i just show

up to my interview wearing a barrel yeah if you've said vendors on it if you've said what you're doing there i don't remember so yeah what is the situation and how key is this luggage getting

there soon well luckily i am a man of very bland uh dressing style so i even if my clothes show up I probably wouldn't look that much different than I'd look to you talking. What I've brought are three of these Everlane sweaters that I'm wearing. Just a plain black pullover. Plain black cashmere sweater. And I'm here in England. I'm ultimately going to Liverpool on Wednesday because I'm interviewing a woman who is credited with her son of popularizing this movement called Death Cafes, which is a very odd name. But it's this movement that's been happening all across the world, but particularly in the UK and the United States where people get together. I was filming one of these in San Diego recently. We just kind of have a get together and they kind of just like talk about how they feel about death. It's not a grief group per se. It's not where you go because you're grieving someone you've lost. It's just to have the conversation to maybe make it a little less scary, to destigmatize it, etc. And this woman and her son actually kind of founded this movement. I mean, it was started by a guy in Sweden, but they really kind of popularized it in the UK. And her son, unfortunately, passed away. But she is still alive. She's in Liverpool. So I'm going to Liverpool. I'm taking the train to Liverpool on Wednesday. And we're doing an interview and a walk around and hang out and stuff on Wednesday.

Why aren't you staying in Liverpool?

Well, having never been to Liverpool or London, I wanted to get to see London. Oh, okay. And I also, this is a boring answer, but basically I didn't want to have to break all this gear down and stuff. and be like getting kicked out of the hotel room like what ended up being easier for me just established this is my hotel room for the week this is where the radio shows are happening or this is where the podcasts are happening and then i'll take the train to london which i are to liverpool i'm actually kind of excited about too and then i'll be there all day i'm getting there really early and then i'm coming home really late at night but i don't have to like repack all this stuff i don't have to worry about if i'm trying to because the timing is so funky right now like it's 7 30 at night here you know so like there's no way for us to do the show on a day that i can't be in the hotel if that makes any sense so that's why I just figured I'm staying in London I'm going to visit Liverpool maybe I'll go stay in Liverpool

Liverpool a different time but I figured I would it just seemed to make the most sense yeah but

you don't you don't have business in um in Liverpool it's just you wanted to stay in London film we're filming I'm sorry you don't have business in London I mean you just want to stay in London because you've never been there you have business in Liverpool how far of a travel is that

I'm trying to look it up on the map it's a couple of hours I think I'm taking one of the uh Avanti West is the people I bought the train ticket from but I uh I'm excited because on the the the trip home, it was basically the same price to be in the first class car of the train, which I'm sure is probably not very different than the other one, but I was like, ooh, we're going to be riding in style, so I'm going to try to get my Darjeeling

Limited on. Yeah, that's really exciting. I'm taking the train from Liverpool to London. I love the idea of, um, I'm having, I don't know why, I am still in the United States using the same tools that I've always used in the US, which is Google Maps, but for some reason, like, it will not give me directions from London to Liverpool. It's only taken me to, like, liverpool street which is in london it's taking me which is ironic because didn't you grow up

in liverpool oh that's interesting i went to liverpool oh near you liverpool school

liverpool township it was valley city but the name of the grade school i went to is liverpool which isn't something i should probably say on the show or just never use that as my security

question with a bank i guess but i mean so yeah so that's the plan i think my clothes will get here by i'm hoping my clothes will get here by wednesday they are allegedly going to drive the suitcase out here when it shows up if it doesn't though i just have to go to a tesco i think that's a gas station and buy a t-shirt that i could wear underneath this sweater and i i have enough stuff again i'm i'm very proud of myself that i did have my like my toiletries and everything in that one suitcase so i have like if i if i were i could make it through this week going and buying a pack of black t-shirts and black socks and i could kind of make it work if i had to so well it sounds like

i'm putting you on the hot seat by the way i have found the direction it is about two and a half hours by train and it does recommend train um and uh and well yeah that's further away than i thought that's like really kind of across it's almost like on the other side of the country but um it's a small country but um i feel like i'm putting you on the hot seat but on the hot seat but um you mentioned though that you had pretty expensive clothes and suits in here too is that for just because if you want to go out at night it's it's not related to the shoes well i am going clubbing

No, like, what I mean is, you know, it's like, well, I was wearing a suit on Saturday night, so that suit is in there, and, you know, these cashmere sweaters are, you know, they're, you know, in the hundreds of dollars or something, I've got a few of them in there, and then, maybe that was a hot one, I said thousands of dollars, that might have been overshooting.

I just wasn't sure. I was asking that question more along the lines of like, oh, are you doing some sort of presentation? Because I know sometimes you travel and you have to do things that are kind of like shoots that maybe are for some sort of large software concern or something. I don't know where I get that. That's just something I made up off the top of my head. So I wasn't sure if you had any kind of big plans that were related to the sartorial conversation.

No, not at all. But I just, you know, I'm pretty particular now about the clothes that I have. And so, like, if I like something, I usually get multiples of it. And then for this, I was like, I actually was thinking, like, well, this will be easy to pack because I'm bringing this gigantic suitcase. So I can just put in, just take all the clothes that I normally wear in normal life and just put them in this suitcase. I don't have to think about each outfit of each day. But, of course, in doing that, I have all of the clothes that I normally wear on a regular basis all in this one suitcase that is currently unaccounted for.

I know this is the most basic question in the world, but do you have any desire to even – because it's going to be so museum-y now and so touristy. But do you have any desire to see the Cavern Club? Absolutely. Oh, 100%.

and i'm gonna go check out abbey road and i'm gonna do all of the like i'm gonna be basic i'm gonna be a basic ass b and happily like you know i'm i'm excited to be here and i don't have any yeah any any hang-ups about doing the very obvious things yeah that's pretty cool so yeah and like the thing about liverpool is we're filming for part of the day but i'm gonna get there in the morning i'm not leaving until that night so it's like i'm gonna build in some time to just wander around and check out whatever kind of cool stuff there is and then same thing for for london just i gotta make a list of things and uh start working my way through it right after i take a nap yeah

right yeah i'm excited for you so um right now it is evening there we started around six o'clock your time which means we must be pushing eight ish right do i have my math 7 40 yeah so um going on eight o'clock you're gonna get some rest tonight try to get on a more normal schedule and then do you have work tomorrow you have to is that your next kind of like thing on your calendar

there we i'm luckily i don't the crew is going to be shooting b-roll so they're going to be getting some shots and stuff but i don't have to be there for that so tomorrow really my main thing is do tbtl i also wanted to get here a day early because i didn't want to be like showing up and actually i'm glad now that they lost my luggage i didn't want to be showing up on the same day i was supposed to shoot yeah so tomorrow basically i've got tbtl with you i've got some other cbs stuff that i'm just some writing and things like that but i'm gonna get to spend a considerable portion of they wandering around london and check nice and the other nice thing about being me is your boy can sleep like it does not matter that i took a three hour nap today i will absolutely tonight probably about 10 o'clock local time i'll absolutely get in bed and i will i will be out like a light yeah so i think i'll have reset my schedule by tomorrow Sometimes people will be like, I can't take a long nap because then I just won't fall asleep. I'm like, that's never me.

That's not you on a good day, and you've been through a lot of travel and everything, so that's good. You'll knock out. Good. I'm excited for it.

So I'll try to have lots of adventures, and I'll try to have lots of run-ins that I can share with you and the listeners throughout the next week.

I like to think of you. I guess it's more pub culture there, not coffee shop, but I like the idea that you have the day to do what you want, but like you could also like just take your laptop and set up in a coffee shop or a pub somewhere or whatever the the culture is and just sort of like i don't know i just love i love being in a new city and then like having some work to do and you can just set up in some place where you can like look out the window and people watch while you tip tap away on your on your keyboard i

hope that i hope that for you well i just really like the fact that i don't have to dial up until 6 p.m local time like i mean honestly it's like when our friend like wasn't did bean bean never did i don't think he ever did his morning show in la from england did he did he no no no most certainly not no because that's i mean that's the scam right like do morning radio and we've always joked about this we used to call ourselves japan's number one morning show like the the deal is you do a morning radio show on the west coast of the u.s but you live in england like it's so

great yeah you know i say most certainly not my memory and whenever i say most certainly you can I most certainly believe I am wrong. So I feel like he dipped his toe in that visiting from time to time, but I feel like the London move was after he had left. After he left, what is the L.A. station? Why am I blanking on this? K-Rock. K-Rock, exactly. How could I forget?

But this is like, I can go have a whole entire day, Andrew, and then sit down here at 6 o'clock at night, and then you're just wiping the sleep from your eyes. I am. It's still the crack of 10 where you are.

Exactly. All right.

All right, well, listen, thank you, everyone. we will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you in the meantime have a great Monday take care of yourselves again peace and love to our Chiefs fans out there we're holding space for you as well I know this was a tough Sunday and also congrats to all our Eagles fans out there on a pretty fun Sunday and congrats to my DraftKings account for hammering the Eagles money line bet alright we'll see you tomorrow in the meantime have a great Monday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain too tall

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