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How do I act so well? What I do is I pretend to be the person I'm portraying in the film or play. Yeah. You're confused. No, I... It's definitely simple, case in point. Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson comes from New Zealand and says to me, Sir Ian, I want you to be Gandalf the Wizard. And I say to him, you are aware that I am not really a wizard. and he said, yes, I'm aware of that. What I want you to do is to use your acting skills to portray the wizard for the duration of the film. So I said, okay, and then I said to myself, hmm, how would I do that? And this is what I did. I imagined what it would be like to be a wizard, and then I pretended and acted in that way on the day. Yeah. And how did I know what to say? The words were written down for me in a script. How did I know where to stand? People told me. You see? Yeah. Now, you would be pretending to be John in this play and how do you know what to say? Well, the words would be in the script. Yeah. And you would learn the words. You would not have the script on the night. And that goes for everybody. There will be no scripts on the night. You'll learn the words. Yeah. No, I think... And you'll speak them as if you were saying them for the first time. I didn't think we would have the script on the night. No, you won't. No, I... Because if you did have the script, it would break the illusion, and the whole thing is illusion, do you see? You are not really John. No, I know. You are pretending, and that is acting.

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all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a friday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live it's your lucky day you just found a usb flash drive in the parking lot my name is luke burbank i'm your host he was king of the tuck tuck sound coming to you from the madrona hill studio perched high above the mighty columbia where it's pretty cold today but we are in the prelude to what is a 3,000-mile atmospheric river of water that is barreling this way and will be absolutely ruining things this weekend.

I'm not handling this well. I don't feel competent. I'm depressed. I'm slouching.

But at least for now, things are sort of stable, and we're in a good position to bring you episode 4,408 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. I'm going to have to take a quick break from broadcasting today and podcasting to respond to an email I received from the Paramount Global Compliance E-Training Mandatory E-Training Program subject line legally required compliance training action required. We'll try to unpack that together here on the show. Also, Duolingo has been in the news a bunch. You know, that's the language app because they pulled a very obvious sort of publicity stunt of killing off their mascot, their owl mascot. But it has actually been shockingly affected from a business standpoint. It would appear anyway.

It's working. It's working.

Try to get to that time permitting. We've always got time for this guy. Longest running co-bro of the show. Best known for his depictions of the tall ships. One other thing about him. He's a prisoner of his own grievances. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Good morning, Luke. According to my calculations here, which I'm trying to do on the fly, we are one hour and 13 minutes away from what? Do you know?

The first Mariners spring training baseball game? That is absolutely right. I was wondering this morning, and I did not know the answer to that. I thought, are we at the point yet where I can turn on my radio and hear the soft sound of ball hitting leather and bats making contact with baseballs and this.

sounds of peoria arizona the crack of the glove the swing of the bat of the bat julio rodriguez is back the swing of the bat the looking at the third strike baseball's back mariners baseball is back so right let the smell of the marine layer let the disappointment begin no that's oh no that's today i love i love looking i love spring training it's not the same as opening day Opening day should be a national holiday, I believe. But I am excited that probably about the time I'm posting this show, the game will just be starting. That's exciting. I believe mariners.com if you want to watch it today. Not all of them are on there, but the first one is.

That is, like, so I mentioned at the top of the show that we've got this river of water bearing down on the Pacific Northwest, and it's going to be a wet weekend for some reason. It hasn't started raining here yet, and I don't know why, But I think because I'm trying to manifest it being springtime, I'm trying to kind of just get through the next month. Because spring actually technically starts, I believe, March 20th. So we're inside of a month before it's officially spring. But I got up this morning and I was like, should I mow the lawn today before it rains? Which is an odd thing. It's not warm. It's like 45 degrees. It's not like one of those days that do happen as spring approaches where it's a Saturday, it's unseasonably warm, and it feels right. It doesn't feel right. I'm, like, forcing it. But I don't know why my brain is trying to do this. But the fact that the Mariners, some version of the Mariners will be on the radio today is not not making me want to do that.

It is. It is. It is. It's a marker in our lives, right?

I think I'm going to wait. I want to wait until it's right. i'd be forcing it if i did it today because again it's cold outside it's the it's going to be rainy it's not i think i think i need to wait another week or two to get the full experience of the first mo also you know what else i saw yeah down down the hill this has got to be a phase of life right where you start to clock where the mobile sharpening people are where the guys that pull up

with a van well it's interesting i see there's you've been clocking there's a sort of a there's There's a hardware store in Maple Leaf that you know, the Ace Hardware, that they have like a digital sign that they'll change the messages on. And I noticed they said in-house knife sharpener, you know, and I didn't. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I think we are. I think we're probably in need of a sharpening. I don't think I've seen any of the mobile like knife sharpeners.

There's a guy with a van. It looks not unlike Uncle Rico's van from Napoleon Dynamite. It's kind of one of those maybe like an 80s sort of Ford of some kind. and uh he'll just show up uh various points down the hill from me and like you know little parking lot areas and recycling center areas and he'll just put out a sandwich board and what's amazing is there's always a line of people like who knew uh that the so many of us were trying to get through life with the dull cutting implements that all takes is a guy in a ford van who's going to sharpen that for you but what i noticed i was taking some recycling down yesterday and this mobile sharpening guy was out and i saw on his sandwich board it said mower blades and i was like oh that's because i've noticed you know i've got that ryobi electric lawnmower that i love so much but it's definitely it needs a tune-up at this point really already not not you know not the motor the motor is what it is because it's it's electric it's a pretty simple system but i have a feeling that the blades are you know i'm not going to lie to you i've hit a few things with that lawn mower nothing thankfully living but just you know some curbs and some some rockeries and things where i try to get too close or where there's a piece of uh you know with all the construction around here like a piece of rebar in the grass that i did you know so and every time that i would like hit something with the mower it would like stop for a minute and then i'd be like oh buddy are you going to be okay and then it would you know rev back up but i have a feeling that the blades are probably need some tightening they could probably definitely use some sharpening so this adds a layer to the experience this year because what it means is I've got to get this Ryobi up on some blocks that's not true, I'm going to just tip it over let's be honest it's electric, it's fine

I was going to say, that's the nice thing about electric growing up, you turn that thing and then it starts leaking gas you might flood it or something carburetor shot

that thing may never be right

dude, I have an electric lawnmower now too the fact that I called you dude means I'm excited sharpening talk I've never felt more manly No tipping talk. For once in our goddamn lives, we're not talking about tipping at coffee shops or restaurants. There's a whole new frontier. I don't know that I will – because sometimes, like you say, you're mowing the lawn and it's a little bit wet. And so when you're done, you need to kind of clean out the bottom of the lawnmower. I don't know if I will ever stop having the Pavlovian response of sort of like quickly or sort of like – gnaughtily, like tipping my lawnmower.

Maybe up on its nose. Yes, and you're like, wait a second, there's no gas in here.

I can do this. It's all electric. It's a battery. It can hang upside down for a second while I clean it out.

Yeah, so this is further pushing me in the direction of delaying my project lawnmower because really what I need to do is I need to go tip that bad boy over, see how loosey-goosey the blades are on the bottom, see if they're easily removed. I'm guessing there's just some kind of maybe a cotter pin and a sizable, you know, sort of lug nut that I could take off, take them down to mobile sharpening, dude. And and then maybe in a week or two, just absolutely just show this lawn who's boss.

When the knife guy goes driving down the street, is there like a trail of little kids like chasing the theme from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre? All the kids like an ice cream truck are chasing it down, but they're all literally running with scissors. Scissors, machetes, what have you. Katana blades.

It plays the theme from Halloween. Yeah, right.

But in a real kind of tinny way. Yeah, in a MIDI version of that. I can see it. I can see it. All right, have fun out there.

Well, baseball's back. That's actually very exciting. I do have a busy day of trying to figure out what's going on with Paramount Global Security. I got this email this morning. hello Luke Burbank. Federal law broadly prohibits the use of any portion of the emergency alert services tones used by TV and radio stations to alert viewers to emergency information and the wireless emergency alert tones used by cell phones and other mobile devices to alert users to emergency information and simulations of those tones outside of an actual emergency or other authorized uses. In other words, they're saying, I am not allowed to deploy the emergency alert system outside of an emergency or authorized situation. And an authorized situation would be

a clearly labeled test of the emergency broadcast system, which we're all familiar with.

And then it continues, as a result of a consent decree that Paramount Global entered with the FCC regarding these rules, you are required to take a short, approximately 10 minutes training on the federal law based on your role at paramount who knew that daytime emmy award-winning correspondent for sunday morning also falls under the umbrella of guy who might be tempted to misuse the emergency broadcast system but who needs to be trained on when it is and is not appropriate to use it

i assume there's just a big red button somewhere right i've never i promise you i've certainly

never been given access to it says your participation your participation is mandatory and you must complete complete training by uh march 4th of 2025 it is critical that employees of paramount and certain people that perform work for paramount understand and comply with these laws particularly individuals involved in the acquisition production and or distribution of content for distribution by broadcast tv and or radio stations you must take the training during your regular work schedule. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Signed, Lumen.

Do I get a melon party? Yes. Melon party in the infinite sadness still makes me laugh, by the way, days later. Well, I don't think you'll do this probably for legal reasons and because CBS is probably like so many media organizations that are just trying to hold the line

Well, that's the thing. I was like, is this consent decree?

But I'd love to hear it. I'd love it if you would just take it on the air with us, because I'd love to learn.

Well, I tried to log in this morning, and like many things— I mean, first of all, I should not have gotten this email. This has no application to my job. But because my name is now on the list of people who got the email, I do need to figure it out. So I clicked on—there was a variety of links. And because of my employment status with CBS, which is I'm a contracted employee there, but I'm not like, I don't get health care from them. I don't get vacation time. I'm in a sort of liminal state with them. I don't have access to whatever the system is that would allow me to watch the training. I don't, my, you know, employee number doesn't get me into that system. So I don't even know what I'm supposed to do about it exactly. I'll probably, there's somebody on the bottom of the email that I can send a message to saying, how do i do this but i would love to take it on the air again probably be a immediately violation of whatever it is they're trying to teach me but yeah my first thought when i saw that consent decree was like oh boy is this but then i realized this kind of stuff takes forever this has to predate the current image this just has to do with some kind of like fcc thing about i got

where they're just like but my question is did somebody somewhere not even at cbs but just generally although this consent decree if it applies only to cbs which if people don't know a consent decree is generally speaking a system of rules that are supposed to keep a particular organization or police department or whomever from like violating the rules going forward it's like you do something you're not supposed to do and then you agree to a consent degree which is basically a set of rules that if followed will keep you from doing the bad thing again and um so that makes me think did somebody at cbs did john dickerson activate a silver alert by the way we also made that reference the other day and then i get this email

that's a suspicious point suspicious so i'm looking up what the original violations were by the way paramount also is paying 244 000 almost 245 000 to the fcc for this it says The FCC says that on June 7th, so what, like eight months ago or something, the 4 p.m. network radio newscast included approximately three seconds of the EAS attention tone. Paramount told FCC that a producer working for CBS Newsradio obtained the audio clip from a video posted by Universal Studios on YouTube and failed to recognize the EAS tone for what it was. So in other words, somebody grabbed some tone for some production reason, played it around the time of the 4 p.m. newscast, and then that was flagged as the official tone. I'm sort of making this up now.

And now I got to take some kind of training out here at the Madrona Hill studio because a producer in New York. That is an amazing, dazzling detail, Andrew. And I can't believe it didn't occur to me to Google this, but this is incredible.

Yeah, apparently he put it in there. This person, I shouldn't say he this person put it into a package. Probably a DEI situation. It says after it says after it ran, realizing what had mistakenly been aired, Paramount says CBS Newsradio deleted the story from its digital systems and did not include it in any subsequent newscast. So, yeah, for some reason, somebody needed tone for a story. So they grabbed some tone off of YouTube. But unfortunately, the tone that they grabbed was the official FCC emergency broadcast tone. they put it in a story or a news package in some way and then they got flagged for it somebody who

ratted them out who recognized the tone i mean i might guess if it was cbs if it's the network it still goes on to a lot of stations oh yeah right we used to carry this i mean maybe they still do at cairo radio i mean cbs news that was our thing that was the um that was the the sound Of my youth of listening to AM radio

I thought it was the sound of you trying to finish Your salad with an egg on top Because you knew you were going to have to crack your mic In about three minutes

Exactly Sprint down to Grand Central Bakery Come back with a I believe that was a frisee Which I only recently learned refers to the vegetables But that's Wow what a crazy Now I wonder that poor producer You know this as a radio producer Andrew It is one of you know playing the wrong piece of tape my question is and we don't know the answer to this was it the I can't imagine that this person was attempting intentionally to integrate this tone sound three seconds of tone into a produced piece yeah it doesn't seem like that's a

long think about long oh yeah yeah it's too long for unless it was like they're bleeping out Buster Bluth swearing at his mouth well I hope it doesn't come

to that you're right that is a long beep one one thousand 2002 2003 so that makes me think it was more in the category of like they saved it under the wrong file name like it's the wrong piece of tape in enps so somebody is trying to play a somebody's trying to play like a what do we even call it anymore like a not a clip but uh i've been doing tv for too long now where we call it like a uh an sot but like in like let's just say that you're reading a news story on cairo and if only i had a brother who actually literally produces the morning news there like you're reading a news story and then you're playing the tape of the person who was interviewed and then you're talking you have a script what do you call it a cut what

would you call the audio of the person being interviewed yeah yeah um i think we just call tape right or cut cut or tape cut and copy or yeah okay there you go so like i'm wondering if

somebody just mislabeled a cut and somebody like at CBS was trying to play it like in other words was this just like the worst nightmare when you're a producer which is that you just mix up some kind of a file and then the wrong thing gets played on the air and it costs CBS a quarter of a million dollars and now the whole company has to take training about not doing that this is

I'm trying to get more details by going to like before I was reading from the cbs press release about their settlement now i'm reading from

tv technology this doesn't add enough but it adds a little bit of something the investigation into cbs news radio began after paramount emailed the fcc on june 7th oh are we ratted ourselves out indicating that a news story concerning an event at universal studios quote may have improperly transmitted or caused to be transmitted in eas tests tone so um or not test i threw the word test in there um okay out of habit but in an eas tone so the story it was a story concerning an event at universal studios i really think somebody on deadline grabbed some tone and they

just of all the tone in all the world i think i actually found the tape here you might be

well let's hope it doesn't come to that i love how old that tape sounds too So that sounds like you've held a microphone up to your Magnavox.

I filmed it on my StarTac phone, and then I held a microphone later up to my StarTac phone to play that. Well, listen, Andrew, thank you for shedding some light on that. Again, I should have thought to just Google what the precipitating incident was, but now I'm really fascinated with this. So CBS, there was some kind of confusion, a mistake was made. cbs self-reported it and then and and has now gotten itself a quarter million dollar fine god knows how much uh billable hours to legal uh developed whatever this system is this training system that i'm supposed to take and then all of the people that have to be associated with that and executing it whoever emailed me to say you got to take this i mean this has got to be a half million dollar endeavor for cbs you know so i'm not you know i'm not i'm not going to take no for an answer next time the hotel i want is out of the per diem so it's where i go with this

so there's a little bit of information here that i'm pulling on and it's just i don't think it's smart to continue to try to unravel this but are we gonna have to do a different training after our consent decree after no nothing's wrong other than me ruining the the podcast by trying to solve this on the air no no i love but i noticed that so in the article from the publication tv tech that i'm reading there's an interesting i'm going to call it a sentence but it's not really a sentence that has really caught my attention but unfortunately there's a typo in here because it doesn't say this is not a sentence it says regarding this ruling it also admitted certain facts regarding an episode of young sheldon broadcast by the cbs television network on may 18th 2023 so apparently this settlement has to do with three different instances one of them has something to do with Young Sheldon, but this is not I think it's missing a word It admitted certain facts Regarding an episode of Young Sheldon were false Or what? Go ahead I'm going to keep googling, you tell me your theory First of all, we need to We're going to try to solve a mystery

It has been a long time

Since TBTL did any mystery solving And I didn't want to miss a chance To break out our official theme This, okay I'm, you are like Scouring the internet for this information Oh, I got it, I got it

Can I guess? Yes, yes, yes, this is amazing, yes

I have a feeling that what happened was The Producers and writers of Young Sheldon Created a scene on the Episode where there was an emergency Thing on the radio or TV Within the show, what do you call that again? Diage? Oh, diegetic, yeah Yeah. And then Young Sheldon got in trouble for it. And then when CBS radio was covering Young Sheldon being in trouble for it, they played it and that got them in trouble for it. And now I got to take a training. OK, what's the real story?

OK, so you're you're basically right. But let me let me put together a timeline for you here. So the very first instance was the Young Sheldon instance. So there were three instances that were flagged from CBS. of heading missouri yes and the first one was may 18th 2023 luke the world is a very different place then yes and that one involved young sheldon this is from this is better i need a i need an old sheldon and a young sheldon by the way this is from a radio television business report they did such a better job on this than anybody else so far well it's called tv tech it's not called tv good writing yeah or finishing sentences in the young sheldon episode a scene in which characters were driving in their car in severe weather featured an EAS test tone. I'm sorry, I keep saying test because my brain always says test there. Because we've never, thankfully,

and by the way, I give it about three days with the current situation. I don't think we've ever, we rarely experienced the real tone except for the fact that now that it's associated with amber alerts and silver alerts, it's become more frequent.

Before that was the case, I had never heard it as a tone. I'd only heard it as a test my entire life up until I was like 30.

And if you've ever had to run a board at a radio station and be in charge of running that test, I remember it was always super complicated. There was a special box, and you had to hit this two minutes ahead of time. And everybody took it very, very seriously because you could get in a lot of trouble messing the stuff up. As we've learned. They also made it as complicated as possible. But so in the Young Sheldon episode, in a scene in which characters were driving in their car in severe weather, featured an EAS tone followed by a warning of an impending tornado. As this is scripted dialogue, however true to life, non-emergency programming is prohibited from airing the tones. So in other words, it's exactly what you said. They just used it in a script. I can't believe that got past whoever the standards and practices people are. small scrappy little startup of a show that like did something when and their premiere like that is i mean how did some producer not realize you can't just use the eas tone um entertainment tonight was the second flag i think this one was dismissed it says the et episode featured a one second airing of an attention signal that was determined to be indistinguishable from an actual eas tone so oh i see so that was not so that was this second offense and then in the third offense we've already talked about this a cbs news radio employee failed to recognize the eas attention signal for what it was and no other employee reviewed the clip before it was distributed so

yeah i think somebody so that maybe unrelated to young sheldon yeah so those are three instances

entertainment tonight young sheldon and the cbs uh news piece on the radio those three things were

all part of the settlement uh i'm actually texting a friend of mine and a one-time tbtl Serious TVTL fan who is One of the creators of Young Sheldon And I'm going to ask him what he remembers About this EAS situation Because I wonder if like I'm so curious Like you said how that There's just so many people That are in charge of making sure that And when I say objectionable I don't think that anyone would think this is objectionable But it's just like technically against the rules This is the exact kind of no fun thing like I would imagine if you're writing a TV show and then you get it all done and filmed and you're pretty happy with it and then it's like you get the notes back from the network and they're just being like well they can't have the emergency alert tone happen in the car because that's a violation of whatever and I would just be as one of the producers and writers be like come

on! Right. But the thing is you can just use a different tone. The fix for this one is so simple. Just do it at a different frequency. It just can't be the exact tone

but people are like I don't know grab the sound. that kind of verisimilitude do we even buy that sheldon is young throwing any old sheldon in there you know the funny part too is that i have been on the set i have been at the very place probably where that was being created because they said it's something having to do with universal uh studios or something and i've been out there because i've done a story from the set of young sheldon which was actually quite fun and

a bunch of real sweethearts there but i just want to hear that new i'm just going bananas here i just want to hear the news story it was a cbs radio news story about something

that happened at universal studios right um yes okay but see that's why i think no you know what i i can tell you that's the young sheldon is shot on the warner brother lot in in burbank so in other words we know that whatever the cbs story was about it couldn't have been about young sheldon

no that would be really funny if cbs was covering it's if cbs that was my initial suspicion which was which was wrong no because the original blurb i did read said some producer grabbed something off of youtube like it specifically said grab the tone off of youtube and it sounds like to it sounds like to beep something that's what i'm still circling around that seems like somebody grabbed it to beep but you're right it's a three second beep so somebody was really in the story about universal studios i really want to hear that story and obviously what i really want to know is i want to read the um what was the uh what was the the internet news outlet that did deep dives on things that you loved and they were owned by like men's shave club or something like that oh oh oh we used to reference it all the time half of your stories would come

from there i know and how quickly we forget i probably still have it saved as a bookmark hang

on let me scroll through whatever it turns out it was like kind of a even though it wasn't direct advertising it was just sort of a good marketing or like kind of PR move for them to also run this really kind of interesting website that told stories I want anyway I want them to find this producer I want to sit down with this producer how are they doing now what was the deadline what was the story what was the deadline pressure why did they do it this way was it like did they well it says nobody else at CBS listened to it before they threw it on the air I don't know.

Is that person still in radio? Right. Mm-hmm. Because honestly, like, I have a vague sense of maybe what a CBS radio producer would make, and I will tell you it's less than probably $250,000 a year. Oh, my God, yeah. That would be, like, that would be your salary for a bit there that just, you know, hopefully they, I mean, obviously they didn't do it on purpose. I would hope that it wouldn't. Now, let's take this to somehow an even more specific place, Andrew, which is, as I was, I still can't remember what the name of that website was that we were loving for a while, but I went to look in my old favorites on Safari, and boy, is it a journey through media products that, like, I've got kotki.org on there. Kotki.org.

You remember Kotki? Yes. These are old bookmarks.

I got Grantland. I've got The All, A-W-L.

Now, Grantland, is that still bobbing along in some version of itself? I think it was. Or is it still run by?

I think it's The Ringer now, right? Oh, okay. Yes, yes, yes. Was Grantland a, that was a. I'm blanking on his name. Yes, and as am I, but that's okay. Yes, but it's him. Let's see. I've got, boy, this is, I mean, this is just, this speaks to my misunderstanding or my lack of understanding around how these saved safari favorites work. because, I mean, there's just, like, I've got a link for IPDTL in here.

Oh, yeah, the good old IPDTL.

God, I don't know. Yeah, I've got, what else is in here? The Consumerist, Real Clear Politics, Slingbox. Remember we were talking about Sling the other day?

Wow. So this just saves all of your bookmarks.

Yeah, I got Addie Grades. This must have been a link to her link.

Oh, my God. How is she doing? Open that up. Let's check. How is she doing an algebra? Let's see if that link is live.

let's see what the um uh let's it's so far it's thinking about it i have a feeling that this page might not work anymore this was the early days of where like when your kid was in high school you as the parent also had access to their academic progress i think about that a lot

it's not a pretty smart thing actually it is you know i was talking with somebody somewhat recently who has kids who are i think one in high school one maybe in in middle school now um and they were kind of talking just matter of factly about you know like oh well so and so's i'm gonna not use the kid's name uh so and so's you know got this project or was talking about their homework or whatever and i realized oh you have access to all of that and we didn't get too much into it but like i you know i have no connection or any view at all into the world of raising kids or or certainly like sending them off to school but it does seem so much different these days like there was a bit of i'm kind of talking out my ass here because i might misunderstand how this stuff works but i almost felt like boy back in the day it really was well you got to trust the kids you got to trust the kids to like say and now we were getting away

with with murder on that whole situation if you were a lying no good cheat like i was yeah you

shouldn't trust me and by the way i didn't get away with anything i just got bad grades all the time you know what i mean like it's like i was constantly coming home like you have to sign this piece of paper because andy didn't do his homework again or whatever i felt like i was always getting you know just kind of being chased down by various teachers parents administrators because i had to get this signed or that signed but at the end of the day it really was like i'm sitting in this classroom this teacher is telling me what i need to complete and i'm either going to complete that or face the consequences it isn't it's probably better for education but it really does take some of the autonomy away from kids i guess when the parents are also like getting Pinged digitally with this is what your Kid has to bring to school tomorrow

Well right and an important thing that I learned was How to lie to people And how to sort of We're all the better for it How to play with the truth a bit Because there was not, my parents I'm going to be honest I love my parents, my mom may hear this My mom dips in and out of the show But I did mention on Blue Sky The other day that I had about a one hour Conversation with my mom and dad When they were over last week trying to get to the bottom of this film that my mom really loved called guilt starring as she put it that very pale gay guy who died and eventually we arrived at the fact that the movie was called doubt and it was uh featuring philip seymour hoffman so a few things were i would say it was a couple of a couple of critical elements of the description of the film were incorrect

but um i guess pale i guess pale you know what one out of three well pale and dead unfortunately

yes that's true so two out of four yeah i mean sadly it kind of it kind of made me think she was talking about philip seymour hoffman i was like but anyway all that is to say i wonder if even now my my parents had their hands full they had seven kids they had a lot going on i wonder if if even now they would avail themselves Let's go.

the technology like in other words if I was 14 and in school and they could go in and check like if my assignments had been turned in or not I wonder if they would avail themselves of that I know a lot of parents do you know I've got two sisters that are in education one of my sisters Hannah is a principal and I would just say without painting her into any corner that it is certainly the a challenge in academics as I understand it these days from the you know from the teacher and the and the administrative side is that the parents you've got a range of involvement from parents which is on one end of the spectrum not enough involvement and on the other end is maybe a little more involvement than is helpful and now you've got a lot for the for the parents that really really really want to kind of be involved and have a view into things there's a lot of technology for that which i wonder if that's always actually like there's probably a middle amount of it a medium amount of it that's probably the right amount you know

what it was truman capote i think that maybe she recognizes philip seymour hoffman as truman

she did mention that i think no actually she didn't but i could see no but i could see how if she if she was you know having seen that film or seen clips of it or seen even just the rotten

tomatoes rating andrew well that's what i was going to say maybe if she put your maybe if the teachers like put your homework assignments in a rotten tomatoes review oh luke is not fresh right now what's the freshness rating on this geometry oh poorly you know i weirdly of all the math that

i took and and and did poorly at in high school geometry was the one that i was a little bit less

bad at and i don't know why me too i loved i actually i could not do it now obviously it's been so so long but remember that was the one not only was it sort of fun because you're learning about angles and there was kind of fun toys your protractors and stuff that went along with it that made it interesting but also that was the one where i'm forgetting the word for it but you had to write out the entire process remember what what is it in geometry where you proof no yeah was it proof or something you would write down it would be like this thus this thus this thus this and it was sort of you'd stack it up and there was just something so satisfying about

yeah and kind of straightforward in a way like where i really went off the rails was anything that was sort of algebraic or calculus or where you started to get into substituting and i know that probably happens in geometry as well at some level but it felt like okay this is a triangle this is where you draw the line from here to here to figure out what you know that to bisect this or whatever you know it just it felt more straightforward to me than other kind of mathematics that i really struggled with after that you know oh yeah so i'm looking at geometry

proofs here and like it's so weird that when i was a child a mere babe in arms yes i could do this

It's weird that your mom would hold you while you were doing your geometry homework in 10th grade.

I was 17. We were very close. Can I put you down, Andrew? You're kind of heavy. We were very, very close, and she was very strong. Great upper body strength. But, yeah, they are proofs, by the way. Great on that. So it's like here, given AB equals AC, prove that whatever symbol B equals whatever symbol C. See, that I could follow. Yeah, and then you would be like statements and then reasons. And then the reason, the first reason is always given, because that's what you were given. God, I love this. I want to learn geometry again. I'm going to learn geometry today instead of watching baseball.

You should go audit a class at North Seattle College.

Yeah, go tree frogs.

Would you ever do that? Like, not for geometry, but just for, I don't know, something you were interested in. Do you ever break out the North Seattle College extension catalog?

I don't. You know, Genevieve did, right? Did I mention that to you? Genevieve took her sewing class there about two or three years ago. which really did sort of jumpstart. She only took the one beginner's class, but it really jumpstarted a pretty intense hobby for her now, which is she's now making a lot of her own clothes and having a lot of fun learning.

Yeah, I asked her the other day. I was like, did you make that? And she was like, no. And then I thought, well, is that an insult then if I say that?

No, I think we're...

She was like, but I could have.

Yeah, I was going to say, maybe she told me that story because I was like, I think she said, somebody asked me if I made this. And I said, no, but I could have. But I studied him. I studied the person who made this.

You know, I took an intro to blues guitar at North Seattle College when I was in high school. You are a tree frog. They weren't the tree frogs yet. And back then they were North Seattle Community College.

Oh, yeah. I still call it that.

But did they film most of the Brutalists there? I believe they did. I believe they did. I still need to get, I still need to see that movie. By the way, Becca is a... Oh, you haven't seen it, right? No, because remember I was in England. And also, just so you know, there's no amount of popcorn that will get Becca into the theater for that. She is so, like, you know, sort of go with the flow. And it's like, yeah, sure, that's fine. Like, honestly, almost never, it's rarely like, no, I don't want to do that. That was the hardest and the quickest no I've ever gotten from her on something. Like a big cement block. It was a hard.

I mean, I was like, we could see The Brutalist. He was like, that's all right. We get some Indian food after? Exactly.

No, I love Indian food and The Brutalist. Just never at the same time or independently or ever is the deal.

We was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle.

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody razzle dazzle.

All right. Everybody razzle dazzle. Let's thank some dazzling donors. I'm proud to say that the, well, first of all, the donations of dough that these dazzling donors are making are significant. It's how the show can exist. Very significant. I'm proud to say that we have, as of yet, entered zero consent degrees with the Federal Communications Commission, and therefore all of this money that is donated goes into funding Too Beautiful to Biz and the Business Boys.

So we should be all set. Oh, no. Dear God, let that be to Andrew. Oh, no, Luke, Corey, what have you wrought?

Corey Plucker of East Hampton, Massachusetts. I'm actually legitimately nervous about that. Do you think because we had razzle-dazzle going over it, we're okay?

And we're a podcast. That's a good point. That's a really good point.

I mean, that'd be one of those kind of good news, bad news things, where it's like if the FCC is monitoring this feed, It means, well, it means they're on to us, Andrew, but I highly doubt we rise to the level of getting in trouble.

But if we get coverage, you know, if we get grouped in like CBS Paramount and popular podcast Too Beautiful to Live, settle for.

We've got to get that one producer at CBS Radio rehired so they can re-mess up something on the air that involves playing us, playing the emergency broadcast tone. Corey Pluckers in East Hampton, Massachusetts It's our old friend Corey Who's been supporting the show for years Hello Thanks Corey I wanted to use my message to promote my good friend Nick's business Nick is a master craftsman Who spent many years building professional grade drums And he transitioned into making guitars And bass guitars In the sleepy rural town Of Granville, Massachusetts Boy that sounds like a life

I was going to say this sounds up your alley What are the chances we get through this without you buying one of these guitars.

Or buying a house in beautiful Granville, Massachusetts. Please check out Jones & Music. That's J-O-N-E-S apostrophe N, music. Kind of like Jones & for music. It's the .com, so it's J-O-N-E-S-N. I don't think it matters, but the N is capitalized. And then music.com.

Yeah, don't put the apostrophe in there. Oh, yeah, yeah, for the website, please.

Nick's instrument designs are beautiful and high-quality And he can custom design from scratch To make the instrument someone has always dreamed of He often harvests his own wood From local sources I am moving there by the way His family's wood reserves Or he can use a customer's piece I own a Model MP guitar Which I absolutely love His Instagram page is worth a follow He posts photos and videos of the building process From his workshop in a historic factory Nick is also a great person I am so close to getting him to listen to TBTL regularly Maybe if someone orders a guitar, he'll come around. Oh, interesting. Interesting. I like how you're leveraging the interest of the listeners, Nick's interest, and ours.

Yeah, this could maybe even get us in trouble with payola somehow. Like, now we're in trouble.

Another good problem to have if they're getting payola-ed. Man, I'm looking at the Jones & Music website, and yes, this is very therapeutic. This is the kind of thing, like, I watch, there's a guy, not to muddy the messaging here, But there's a woodworker in Portland who kind of became pretty big on TikTok for a while, just doing these elaborate woodworking projects, but that he's also very good at documenting. And I definitely find myself at certain times just watching people do something that I have no ability to do and will never do. But just the observing of other people doing it, particularly when it's like a high level of artisan behavior, just calms my soul. It's just kind of soothing.

Yeah, I think a lot of people are into that. You and Chris mentioned something on stage. I didn't know that you guys were both into this as well, but the carpet and rug cleaning videos. Now, that's not artisan, but man, that's a... I didn't know you guys played around in that space. That is a very satisfying...

That one, I don't know if you were seeing the same guy, but there's a guy who has, you know, like a kind of a warehouse space where he does it, where he's got this big white square with these gutters along the side, and he's just working on it, and then he puts it in that, like, kind of agitator, that like centrifugal or centripetal, I never know the difference. It's got some spinner that'll spin out the dirty water. Oh, that's the only thing that can heal the soul during these turbulent times. Do you know?

when i used to work for my dad at a metal fabrication shop in cleveland ohio right there on triscuit avenue if you happen to be driving driving triscuit avenue interesting name yeah i

know one of the best crackers right yeah we talked about the origin of the name right there's no

longer any oh we did at one point electric biscuit you know that yeah you know i exclusively eat triscuits now oh yeah that's a little carby for you i would think i mean i'm not judging you i Which means you usually avoid that stuff, yeah

Well, no, first of all My new Luke in 2025 Is I eat whatever I want to eat But I try to eat the version of that thing That's the least processed And Triscuits have three ingredients There's flour, water And hydrogenated oil No, flour, water

And red dye number five

And salt I don't know what the third is But basically, the thing that was Holding me back on Triscuits for so long was I didn't like the texture.

Oh, I love the texture.

It was like a shredded wheat with three things of salt on it. I was not into it, but now they make these new little Triscuit triangles. It's the exact same thing. It's three ingredients, but they're much more pleasant for me from a tactile and a kind of a whatever you want to call it, the sensory experience. And I am loving them, Jerry. I'm back to eating crackers as long as there are these Triscuits.

I remember you saying that. I like the kind of size and shape of a regular Triscuit, although for a while I was playing around with the rosemary ones. But honestly, those taste too chemically to me now. It doesn't taste like real rosemary. But all of that is to say, when I was working there at Walsh Manufacturing, which is still called Walsh Manufacturing. If you drive by, you see the sign, you give a little honk.

Who owns it now? Like a Korean multinational?

Yeah. My family is incredibly wealthy. Have I not mentioned that to you?

Wait, it's still in the family? They didn't sell it to some?

No, no, they did sell it, but they did not sell it to some multinational company that made us generationally wealthy. It didn't sell to Lumen? No, but another small business owns it now, a man and his sons. But anyway, I was going to say there were these devices way in the back in this area called the paint room where things were often painted. But there were these two devices that I never saw in action but mesmerized me. and they looked like, picture a cartoon of somebody being shot out of a cannon in the old-timey days. Yeah, sure. Only it's a little bit smaller than that. They were drums, right? But they were a little bit fatter in the back and a little bit more narrow. Not quite as long as a cannon, right? But more like a drum. And it was up at an angle as if it wasn't going to shoot a ball across the lake or something. Was it a pants shaker? No, you know what it was? It was filled with these really satisfying, because everything in this shop is just like, industrial machinery right not a lot of color not a lot of so these were just like gray and bland or whatever and inside them was also the color gray and bland but very very smooth stones just very smooth stones and i asked my dad at one point like what do these things do they were tumblers so if you have something that needed to be sort of like rounded or deburred or something and i don't think they did this process very often but if they were small enough you could toss them in there and i believe maybe add some some sort of liquid or water i don't really know and these things would just tumble the metal parts for a long time and it would just take the edges off it, apparently. I never saw them in action, but I would just sit by them and eat my bologna sandwich and imagine what it would be like to turn them on.

Dude, I bet you that that is an entire wing of TikTok and I bet it's very same. Yeah, right? People just feeding stuff. I'm thinking, I don't know why this is where I'm going with the conversation right now, but that's an interesting business model to have a fab shot because my guess is you talk about how hard your dad and your uncles worked or uncle and everybody there but there must have been so much reinvestment into the business for the equipment because just to be able to do that stuff you must need so much equipment and that equipment must be so expensive you must just spend like the first 20 years making enough money to keep acquiring the really expensive equipment that you need you know there was something and this is

this name is going to be triggering for people but listen to me say it all the way through hear me now and believe me later there was this uh machine that was a huge investment for the company in the i want to say they brought this in maybe in the 1990s maybe in the early 90s it was called a trump machine t-r-u-m-p-f a trump machine and it was the first thing that i believe my my um you know that the office my family brought into this company oh yeah that was like that had any kind of a digital aspect to it and there's this guy named freddie he was a german guy named freddie and he would i mean i guess he was german-american but he always ran the trump machine and you would like kind of program into it what you wanted it to do like i'm sure the one that the the shop had at the time was so antiquated compared to what these machines can probably now do in 2025 and we're talking decades ago but this was an early I don't know. version of it and then like freddy would just punch in some numbers and then you could hear the trump machine just banging away as it cut out out of huge sheets of metal a cnc laser it's cutting it now it's laser i don't think it was laser back then i'm pretty sure like water i think i think it was i think it was punched out because it was a loud banging i could be wrong about that i don't know but i feel like it was pre-laser and i feel like it was actually like kind of it probably had some sort of sheaths that came down bang bang bang bang until it cut through um and that just seemed like i'll bet you i i wonder if my dad would want me to i don't think he would really care but i'm just curious but i think that was such a layout of an investment that really had to pay out because it was a small shop you know like i don't know how many employees but you know well well under a hundred certainly like you know what's funny is 40 maybe 30 wow well that's actually pretty sizable 30 people working well i'm thinking office you have engineers in the office you have some people you have a bunch of guys in the shop if it's 15 and 15 that's pretty that's 30 that's

a decent size operation like this is what i think is is kind of weird about or funny about this is that okay so sign works so you got walsh manufacturing there in ohio you got sign works out there in seattle where my dad was now the big outlay for my dad was at some point he bought something called a gerber sign maker and that was like the vastly less expensive but similar device to the trump machine where instead of like stamping out and cutting out things of metal it was cutting out vinyl it was taking these big rolls of vinyl but it was a plotter so it was probably some similarities like you programmed it to do something and you enter you put in in this case it was like fonts and stuff and then it would know how to cut this these specific so this is how all the taco time lettering was done and stuff it would be cut out of this these big rolls of vinyl then we the kids or my dad or whoever would like take out all the stuff that wasn't the letters and then you you you do this masking tape and you take it off and you apply it or whatever but it's like i remember when my dad bought one of those it was like maybe three thousand dollars i want to say or something where it was like basically like we are rolling the dice on this machine this is going to this is going to allow us to do jobs we couldn't do before but if it doesn't pay off it's over like this is an investment in the future of the company and it's just funny that and that also by that by the way scales with the size of sign works versus the size of walsh manufacturing we had this little thing that was three thousand dollars you guys had this big thing that was probably three hundred thousand dollars i'm having a weird sort of

feeling right now my dad and uncle sold the company over 10 years ago now i'm wondering if if it might even be 15 because my dad stayed on for a little bit and he retired maybe 11 or 12 years ago um all of that is to say like this isn't like new shocking developments for me that walsh manufacturing is no longer owned by my family but i never go on like their website or anything and i just typed in walsh manufacturing it's interesting like the logo hasn't changed and there's the classic w logo that was all you know we had notepads with we had these you know and it's just funny to see that it's still there and then you click on the about us page and it says over 50 years of metal fabrication and machine design and it says the walsh difference we take this time to listen to customers unique production problems blah blah my when my family ran this place it was pre-internet for the most part or at least it's certainly for this sector so i don't think there's a lot of messing around with like copy or any kind of like marketing copy like this about the walsh difference i'd never heard that before but i'm having a weird feeling reading this now because it's my name but there's no connection anymore like I think my dad is still friendly with them and maybe we'll swing by and say hi you know it's still a you know it is a very family operation I know that the people who run it now it sound like from everything I hear like legitimately really really good people and also I think there's a little bit of like how are these guys running it so well I mean I don't know it's actually so it seems but when you go to the

website it looks like a more robust operation than you were a member of

the og days it's not so much robust it's still a very basic website for a fab shop in cleveland you know what i mean it's like it's probably not going to win any cleo awards or whatever i just mean the business itself like the equipment for me it's the name like just sort of reading this the walsh difference we take the time to listen it's kind of like i know that nobody named walsh wrote that or had anything to do with that but it's like my name i don't know there's just something weird about like uh feeling this sort of disconnect to this thing that i'm now like kind of nostalgia tripping about as I look at this website.

Oh, I can only imagine. It must be kind of a, yeah, like a bit of a mind bleep.

Well, it'd be like, yeah, if somebody bought your dad's sign company and then you logged on and then it was like the Burbank difference and it was run by...

The sign works difference. We haven't made a sign in two years because we've been rebuilding Luke's house. I believe that's on the website.

For a slightly jacked up price compared to the people down here. in the valley. No, I got a good deal on some cabinets recently. My dad charged me less while he was working at the home shop, so that was a nice little Benny. I've never obviously been to this website, Andrew, but I can imagine looking at this logo, and again, this is your literal last name. I'm now repeating what you said with even less personal investment in the matter, but it's like to have this thing that you grew up with as central to your life continuing on in its life, and it looks like thriving in a good way. It just still has to be kind of an interesting experience.

And you can learn about, if you see that slide show at the top, you can learn about the five main kinds of parts washers, Luke. You have your belt style. You got your rotary style. What about dip style? You definitely got your dip, dip, dip. You got a cabinet style. Nothing moves in there. Cabinet style, I don't mean to turn this into a negative thing, but a cabinet style parts washer is kind of the most boring parts washer. It's basically like a dishwasher. There's not a lot moving in there. I'm looking at it. But the monorail, a monorail, little parts hanging from hooks, going through a machine, going through different phases of cleaning and drying and heating. That's where the fun.

I didn't know parts washing was such a business.

Oh, yeah. That's why I'm here today. That's what got you through Kent State? I don't know exactly if that's true, why I'm here today.

You had every expense paid because you were from the parts washing dynasty of Cleveland, Ohio.

That's right. Where were we?

But what are the parts, too? I mean, I can't believe this is descending into fab talk, but this is clearly a big part of the business and a lot of pretty high-tech equipment for doing it, parts washing systems. I'm curious what the parts are that are getting – these are industrial parts for big machinery type of things, right?

Well, they're probably parts that are being made in a plant somewhere, but then the final – or one of the near final processes is they need to be cleaned. So one thing that I know an example was always like manifolds, right? If you're GM, I think it was maybe, I don't know, there was some major car concern that was a client for a while, I think, or a customer. And if there's some huge factory somewhere and they're starting with some chunks of metal and then through various processes of the assembly, it's getting pounded and cut and formed and shaped. and but then maybe near the end of this process it's probably in the shape it needs to be but it's all gross and greasy and got burrs on it or whatever so then maybe the process is you put it on a belt washer and it takes a little ride through the this thing and they they some of them were huge depending on like what the parts were and what needed to be done you could have a small one that just sort of you know sprays it off and heats it up and dries it off other ones would like it's like a Bugs Bunny cartoon it seemed like it would go on for miles they never let me take a ride in one though so oh really well that's because they loved you yeah i guess

so i think that's a good thing well thanks cory yeah appreciate the uh support everybody go check

out yeah jones and music don't go to walsh manufacturing go to jones and music for your

music needs and go to walsh for your parts washing needs i think that's what we've learned it's all

reclaimed material and it's all made in a small that's right hand forged machinery and manifolds

Maestro?

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dazzle.

We've also got to thank Dazzling Donor, Bruce Parcher of Auburn, Washington.

Hello, Bruce. Now, I could be wrong about this, but Bruce, I think, is maybe a new name to me. I don't know if Bruce has donated in the past, but maybe a newish listener. Welcome, Bruce.

Sure, Bruce. I think Bruce is not a newish listener, but I think, let me read the message. Maybe Bruce is new to the Dazzling Donor game. I see. Bruce says, big fan here, but one of those that kind of lurks and enjoys the show and the community that I feel apart without actually engaging much. I came to TBTL as an expat in Namibia during the Cairo days.

Oh, like I said, new listener.

Yes. It's only been 17 years.

17 years. Sorry, Bruce.

Bruce, but Andrew, to your point, Bruce is a self-identified kind of maybe a slightly more quiet listener. I love this idea of Bruce in Namibia, though, like going to the Cairo website, which, you know, God, back in those days, I mean, I wonder if it was like how functional it was, if it was always streaming. I love the idea of Bruce just wanting to reconnect with Seattle. It's surprising how many people have that story of coming to TBTL because they lived somewhere else. Maybe it was abroad or maybe it was just a different part of the country, but they kind of missed Seattle or the Northwest. And so then they would like Cairo, they identified with that. And then they found this TBTL thing. My work, Bruce is referring to his work in Namibia, wasn't making me rich. So it took a long time to get to a place where I could give back a little for all the pleasure and entertainment you have given. Ah, Bruce, thank you.

Thank you.

This makes me think either Bruce was working in some sort of maybe humanitarian kind of, you know, component or like maybe an NGO of some kind or a speculative. mining operation. Yeah, I was going to say, or just absolutely...

Just absolutely. Just like heavily... Destroying the landscape. But at an intense financial cost up front so that it did not pay off until later. Either one, Bruce, will take the donation. Exactly. It's either distributing mosquito nets or just absolutely pilfering the land. Now I'm home for a while taking care of my aging mother and selling art and other treasures online to earn enough... Okay, now we're getting down to it. I'm going with humanitarian. Other treasures online to earn enough to keep my favorite podcast going. If any tents are collectors or looking for a gift, just bing. That's how you know he's a long-time listener. Good pull, Bruce. Just bing, Alphabet Street Store eBay. And there I am. Identify yourself as a tent, and I'll send you a coupon for crazy big discounts. That's a power out from Bruce. Thanks, Bruce Parcher.

I'm looking at the – are you on the –

No, I'm reading the message, but now I'm going to go to it. What's it called again?

So it's just Bing, if you will. Alphabet Street Store eBay, I believe.

Alphabet Street Store eBay.

So it's not all handcrafted, as Bruce said in his message. There's also collector stuff on here. There's a whole section of vinyl records. Oh, dude. Placido Domingo. My life for a song. Only $8. What?

Do you know that on Monday, I'm not trying to steal your move, but on monday i am taking delivery of a turntable oh fun no that's great i'm really excited about it and i'm um it's allegedly it's a turntable so that i can use with um the sonos system that i have it's not made by sonos but it's allegedly works with it because i had my dad make these kind of like cabinets and sort of built-in benches for the part of the living room of my house i guess you would call it and there is one uh kind of cabinet area that's like perfect for a turntable but it has no access to any speakers any of the speakers like i'd have to do a crazy janky running of the cables yeah i hate cables um and so this ideally what i will be able to do is play a record when addy and i were at that place souwester we had so much fun playing records and you've talked about this like and again we're not saying a whole lot that hasn't been said but And there is something very nice about how contained and finite the vinyl record experience is. The playing of it, you're not going to skip any songs because it's too much of a hassle. You've got to go back and turn it over later. There's the cover. I am really, really... The choosing.

Like, when people are over, it's like, well, what do we want to listen to next? Like, you know, I mean, we did that in the aux age, too, sort of. Like, hey, grab the aux. But it's a little bit like it's more communal. Like, hey, what should we grab? Okay. Oh, yeah. There's just something so much more fulfilling, I think, about it. For some situations, like some situations, it doesn't make sense. Don't take a record player with you if you're jogging, for example. I'm not trying to deny the convenience of modern technology, but there is something fun about having a record player.

Yeah, and also now if I get the record player sort of working and operational, then when I'm out and about, because I mean, I feel like vinyl, there's so much vinyl out there. And you can go a little crazy with it. Like you can start picking up too much kind of ironic content and kind of weirdo stuff. but like to have a pretty solid collection like you know our friend Roden actually got me some albums that I he got me the war on drugs

on vinyl yeah

which I that might be the first record that I play when I get this thing set up because it's just like a vibe I really like the idea of having I want to have like a roster of maybe 20 or 30 kind of solid records across genre that I'll just have on in this area near the record player and then maybe all the other records I got like some weird Christmas shit You know Elvis stuff And whatever That kind of stuff I got King Creole Or whatever You have at least One Herb Albert You gotta Oh Whipped Cream Please My friend Probably got a couple of those She was a Seattle The woman on the cover Was a Seattle native Just have that like Have a kind of Yeah like maybe 30 albums Of different styles For people to Pick through When you come over Hey put a record on And then maybe Somewhere else Have that kind of like Overflow area Like we don't need to be Going through every Conway Twitty record

Yeah no it's funny You should say that I'm going on There have been Over the past year sort of going on a similar journey because i had a pretty big not big but i had one crate basically of records that was pretty full but so much of it was um like you say sort of like well this seems quirky i but you know i'll buy it or grab it for free this is a dollar yeah and then a lot of it was classic rock stuff which i loved at a certain time like i have every i think i have like the first five doors records or something but it's like how often am i going to be putting on the doors record well obviously every night but when you're doing but anyway um but yeah now i've sort have been doing the same thing like buying some you know new reprints of records that i love you know i'm not trying to be precious about it there was something i've been i discovered something a couple of years ago luke that i thought you would find to be an interesting story before we get back by the way to bruce's dazzling donor message here i had quite a shocking the skin. discovery in a good way when i started to get a little bit more serious about my records about a year or so ago and started sorting them out a little bit more i had this um talking heads record called electricity you notice i said electricity not electricity i don't like that i liked your i like electricity i like so much heat for that but anyway and then as i was like going through my records and kind of like putting them in order i was like i don't remember where this fits into the kind of talking heads discography so i look it up and it's not in there and then i start looking at the record more i have no recollection at all when i picked up this talking heads record it's a full-on bootleg record but produced like a real record and like the one side and this is a coincidence was recorded in cleveland ohio at the agora theater and then it was remastered by some guy who's kind of a somewhat famous engineer and then it's got some other tracks and i think some snl live tracks to fill it out but like it's got a real record cover it's got a sleeve and it was like i've been doing a lot some research on this and getting various answers but it turns out that there were some guys who were like kind of started bootlegging things in the 60s and 70s but before digital and before cassette tape you know like you know like i always thought of a bootleg as you got into your stoner friend's car and he had a briefcase full

of like cassette tapes that had like the grateful somebody stood near the monitor with a right with

a microphone or somebody grab the the you know the off of the feed right yeah and so but these this is natural like fully fully looking produced vinyl record that just does not exist in the world

wow and it's got yeah because it's it's got it looks like it's got psycho killer and take me

to the river on it um are you what are you looking does the cover is it like almost a black and white issue looking cover and it's a house but it sort of looks like the chimney is a person on it yeah I'm on Discogs. That's it, yeah, yeah.

It's just Talking Heads Electricity. It's not worth anything, right? The Big Country. Does it list a price for this? I don't know if it tells me here what the price is. It's funny because they, is there, are there two songs, or did they just like, is this a language thing? They list a song on here called Psychic Killer. Then they also list a song called Psycho Killer, the demo version. I'm like, there was not also a version called Psychic Killer, was there?

I don't think so. So I think that that's probably a typo on this website, although I could be wrong.

Oh, $15 it looks like you could get on Vinyl Exchange. 15 pounds, that's actually better.

But yeah, so it says it was quote-unquote released in 1980. But I don't know, it was just such a shocking thing. I was like, I've had this thing, and I have never, I've gotten more into the talking heads as in the past like 10 years or so. So probably I was just at some record store or more likely like garage sale or something. at some point in high school or college and it's like, I've heard of these guys, I'll buy this record. And then years later realize, oh, this is like a, again, I'm not excited because I think it's worth something as a collector. It's just like really cool.

Right. Well, yeah, I mean, again, I feel like an example of that, and this isn't cool, this is a record that probably sold 10 million copies, but I have whatever that first Cars record was that has all their hits on it, maybe it wasn't their first record, but like would I normally In my life Either go on Spotify And start playing the cars in my house No, but is it super fun To play that record And I grabbed it at some point at a garage sale Because I had heard of the cars That was the amount of thought that went into it Not like I've got to complete my collection Or this is a seminal work Of all these records I do recognize the cars I used to go to my friend Ollie's house And he would play this cassette tape But now I'm so glad I have it

I cannot believe there are certain records and of course this would be true for the cars the the bands i can think of right away are the cars fleetwood mac and probably tom petty or tom petty and the heartbreakers where they released albums that you look at the playlist in 2025 and you're like how is this not a greatest hits their debut record just simply called the cars starts with good times roll my best friend's girl just what i needed like that's that's a quarter of the record i mean three of their hugest hits you're all i've got tonight is on side two and i think the rest are ones i don't think i know i'm in touch with your world don't just stop whatever but like my god literally half of this record is like platinum that doesn't really make sense but yeah i know

what you mean though i mean it's like this one of these songs off of an album would make it like a spectacular album and it's just like boom boom boom boom boom speaking

uh-oh we're gonna do it by then tbtl breaking news we have an update on the young sheldon

situation and great okay yeah let's hear it uh i i asked my friend who is one of the creators of the show hey uh random question what do you remember about the young sheldon eas tone thing You

We're talking about it on TV. He said, oh, yeah, we got fined for that.

Yep.

He goes, and then a season later, we did another tornado alert thing on the radio in the show. I followed all the guidelines and got it approved by a bunch of people and got in trouble again.

Maybe internally in trouble because I didn't see it mentioned on the FCC again.

I don't know. I could ask a further follow, but it seemed to be a real issue for the otherwise very successful Young Sheldon show.

I'm way, no offense to you or your bud, I'm way more obsessed with knowing what the CBS Newsradio story was and what happened there. Well, maybe you get a friend over there, Andrew. I don't have friends, Luke. I have what they call a toxic personality.

You know, you can get that washed.

Okay, I think we're still in the middle of Bruce's dazzling donor message. No, I think we're done.

I think we just need to say thank you, Bruce. We could not do this without you. Hey, Andrew. Hey, hold on. Big weekend plans?

Before I answer that question, Luke, I just wanted to clear something off of my plate. I'm sorry, what were you going to ask me? Big weekend plans? Big weekend. Wow, I had that cute up front. The biggest one I've ever had. Big weekend.

What are you up to this weekend?

This is interesting, maybe, sort of. I'm going to a game night. Genevieve has some colleagues who, I don't know, occasionally over the past, I don't know, six or seven years that we've known them will organize a game night sometimes at their apartment in a group of folks i think most of them are colleagues of genevieve's i don't i don't know if they all are or not but um we haven't had one in a long time the pandemic kind of put in a stop to that or whatever but i am especially looking forward to tomorrow's game night i'm not a huge gamey person i actually get well i am a gamey person no matter how much i shower i'm very gaming get that watch um i get very very nervous because i don't know what games we're going to be playing yet and i'm sure they're somewhat high concept um but i get very nervous thinking i'm it's going to expose what an idiot i am to all these smart people but then i always end up having a really good time and then i'm always in the mood to play more games at the end but especially this time because as much as i enjoy going to these folks's home um generally speaking i am somebody who does not love hanging out at people's homes. There's nothing, I have no issue with this particular place where we usually go, it's not a shoes-off house, it's not a dinner party, it's very casual, it's fine, it's fun. But these folks also belong to, I'll bet you you know this place and I'll bet you you would be interested in it. It's not the Yacht Club, is it the College Club? The College Club down on East Lake, it literally has like a floating dock, it's like... The Tyee Club? It's called the College Club, I think. And it's right on the water on Eastlake. Look it up. Tell me if I'm right about that. And it's like the Eagles if we paid probably 100 times the dues. It's like a nicer fraternal place that, like, it's a rowing club. It's like a kind of a really nice. You know what's funny?

I have walked by this place a million times. It's a beautiful walk. In fact, a friend of mine used to have a houseboat just on the water next to this, but I've never been in there, but I know the place that you're talking about now.

So, yeah, so that's what we're doing tomorrow, and I'm actually really looking forward to it because it's a beautiful place. Yeah, this is more than the Eagles. To get together. Yeah, right, exactly. It's a bit nice. I've been here a couple of times or maybe just once, but it's a nice place. But I got to say, you give me a game night with a group of friends, but also you don't have any kind of the pressure of going to somebody's house. Right. You're liking that it's a neutral location. Yeah. So I'll let you know what games we play.

If they play charades, I would just say, try to stay off the jazz jazz characters

people know he was in the Colgate comedy hour I would was going to say one other thing

I'm looking around for my posters somebody sent me like concert posters for all of those characters that are named by Tim Heidecker it's like squeaky boop short somebody the worm hicks Marcus the worm hicks

I remember a long time ago telling you about this because this is something that is um has changed is like i think when we first got together with a small group of people to play games we played that game that was i later learned a different version of the game mafia that you were familiar with only this one was called secret hitler and it was like basically you sit around i know we talked about secret yeah when we would you sit around and like one person is like the secret fascist and like you all kind of have to like use clues i think it's like that game mafia you used to play which i've never played that version and like now it's kind of like obviously we're not going anywhere near that it's just like we're living in a goddamn fascist nightmare like i just can't yeah no it's not it's not like a

fun little like uh routing out of the of the person who's been assigned to be the baddie in the game exactly it's like oh is steve ban And in here, did you see Bannon do the salute? Yeah, I did. I mean, wow. Anyway.

So those are my big weekend plans. Big weekend plans.

We had, Beck and I had big weekend plans to, we're supposed to run this half marathon in Vancouver, but this atmospheric river got me shook. I am, first of all, running 13.1 miles is at the very edge of my abilities.

Yeah.

Maybe slightly beyond the edge of my abilities, but I committed to trying to do one of these a month this year with Bex, and so we did one in January, and we're supposed to do the February one, but I cannot do—I can't run that far in pouring rain. It is just going to be not fun, and same for Becca. So we're scotching that. Oh, you are scotching it. Okay. But now we're going to have—but see, now this is the whole thing starting to erode or unravel Because now what we have to do Is try to do one next weekend Which is technically March Do one in March 2nd and then another one at the end of March

You're doubling up

None in February and two in March Because we're trying to keep with the pattern Of doing Also I blame February not having enough days

Yeah, it is a shorty

If we could just get to a February 30th Then we could have fit one in on Saturday Next week So I'm trying to be Chill with the fact that I've already it's one month into this and i'm already i've already failed to achieve the goal of one of these per month but i figure if we do two in march it'll um yeah and plus i i went for a run yesterday down at the lake and uh i didn't feel like i did not do 13 miles i didn't even do close i didn't even do half of that and it did not feel like i had another eight miles in me i'll tell you that much like i did about five miles and at the end i was like yep that's it that's what we've got So I guess maybe I have this atmospheric river to thank for buying me a little reprieve of this situation.

Is there like a credit trading system or like the credit offsets or whatever? Carbon offsets. Could you apply a carbon offset credit system to?

I need to just get that from Becca because she's got these friends that she runs with, these friends that are always training for something. And they'll just go out and do like 20 miles on a Saturday. day i'm like okay collectively we've run 20 miles today can i have 10 of that right or hook up with

barry broadcast barry he's got so many extra miles he's just banking them away you give him something in return for that you give the miles to becca and then you can watch i don't know i send him two bags of coffee every month you may hold on he sends me miles yeah exactly um all right

Well, I didn't get to my thing I want to tell you about with the TSA, but maybe on Monday I can talk about that. I had a conversation today before the show that it wasn't like an intense conversation, but it was the first it was the first moment I've had of even semi-jokingly interacting with the fact that our democracy is melting down around us, if that makes sense. Like I haven't I haven't had a conversation with someone at a federal agency about this topic until today. So maybe we can talk about that on Monday. Or maybe we'll just cover how the Mariners did today in excruciating detail. Some guy who's never going to actually play in the majors got a hit into a fielder's choice in the eighth inning. We can break that down.

Yes. We will know in about four hours' time whether or not the Mariners are headed to the World Series this year.

Yes. Or back into the dustbin of history. Exactly. All right. Thank you, everyone, for listening this week. Of course, we have arrived at the end of our broadcast week, but we will be back here on Monday with more Imaginary Radio. So please come join us for that. In the meantime, have a great weekend. Stay dry if you're up here in the Pacific Northwest. Take care of yourselves wherever you might be. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

Good luck to all. Sorry I made a stretching, groaning sound while you were there. Yeah, that was— I forgot that my mic was open. Just ready to slide down the dine to summer, as you like to say. Good luck to all. Bye, Andrew.

All right. See you Monday.

Power out.