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Chase, what's your favorite thing to snack on when you're jamming out to music? Um, I don't know. Everything's good. Okay, well, we're streaming live on Bagel Bites TV, so can you say Bagel Bites? Oh, yeah. Bagel Bites. Okay, great, but can you say it in a sentence? Like, I'm Chase Dreams, and when I'm jamming out to music, I love to eat Bagel Bites. I'm Chase Dreams, and when I'm jamming out to music, I love to eat Bagel Bites. Okay, great. Congrats on whatever it is you do. Thanks.

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Well, all right, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Thursday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. In this show, people get a little embarrassed and then very angry. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I'll do it until it's stopped. Will you please stop? Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where we are getting another beautiful day. Oh, ma, pa, it's just beautiful. I think it is officially spring, if I'm not mistaken. I think we're actually in springtime. We've sprung ahead. It is blue skies, and we are feeling very good about episode 4,422 in a collector series.

Let the fun begin.

i don't know if major league baseball is feeling very good about these new hats that they rolled out that um first of all just look weird as hell and also one of them accidentally involves a anatomical reference in spanish i've made a huge mistake and i didn't realize this until i read the article but they had a similar problem last year involving an, I guess, was it still the Oakland A's back then? An Oakland A's hat from last year. We'll talk Major League Baseball hat stuff. We'll also talk about this new scam that you should be aware of where they're texting you about tolls that you may owe. It's literally illegal. I do think I've actually gotten caught up in this. Caught up in this. Cotton. C-A-U-G-H-T-O-N. That's not a word. And I'm not going to use it today. I am going to use the word Blur's Day, though, because it's a Thursday, a.k.a. Blur's Day. We'll do the Blur's Day messages. And we'll talk to this guy, longest-running co-bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Yeah, oh yeah, buddy. He brought the rock and roll edge to the Eagles. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. Good morning, Luke.

I'm one of a couple of people who, in all fairness, brought the rock and roll edge.

I think it was the double-neck guitar that helped you do it.

Yeah, well, again, I'm one of a couple of people with a double-neck guitar who brought a hard edge.

By the way, you know, old Don Felder, old Fingers Felder is also playing the Clark County Fairgrounds down here.

No, I didn't know that. There's something extremely fairgrounds-y about a Clark County Fairgrounds. You know what I mean? Doesn't that sound even... Yeah, it checks out. Yeah, it really sounds like a real county fair.

Although, here's the thing. I think it's called the... It's so sad. i think the name of the amphitheater is technically the rv in style amphitheater or something like one of those real real non-flowy names for something so you drive by when you're driving through um i guess you would be a little north of vancouver washington and a little south of ridgefield you'd be south of the new costco and ridgefield but uh but north of uh of vancouver and you would see the Clark County Fairgrounds. There's also a King LASIK there, which always makes me think of the fact that Makovic from King and Makovic is doing hard time for trying to kill King. But anyway, you would look to your, depending on which direction you were driving, I guess if we're going south in this analogy, you'd look to your right, you'd see the Clark County Fairgrounds and a sign that flashes various bands and artists that are going to be coming through. But I think if you went to the actual place that the concert's happening, I believe it's the RV in style something.

Listen, it's clunky. The in style part of that is clunky. I will be the first one to say it, but at least it's RV. Like, I thought you were going to say it's like the Sam Bankman Freed, like, I don't even know. It's the Rose Sparks. Yeah, right. Or like some sort of Bitcoin-y, like, awfulness. I mean, again. If it's going to be a fairground, naming it after an RV company seems like fair game to me.

Yeah, you're right. The actual, I'm looking this up to double check if it's, yeah, I believe it's the RV InStyle Resorts Amphitheater. They had to get resorts in there.

Hotline. Yes. Hotline. Hotline. That's how we monetize TVTL and take the burden off the listeners.

These are the small details that just drive me absolutely crazy. There was something like this the other day on the show I was talking about. It's like RV InStyle Resorts Amphitheater. And- Roxino. Fingers Felder. It's like they wanted to make sure that you could, it's also a resort.

You know what I mean?

So it's like RV, and by the way, in is spelled with two Ns. So what this is, is some chain of RV parks. Fine. It's honest work.

In is two Ns, Andrew. I have to jump the gun, but we are in MLB hat territory here. What are they doing? It's so many weird references.

It's the puta, tetas, I-N-N style, please. I'm sorry I said a really bad word in Spanish. Tetas is not that bad. Puta, not great.

I don't know what that means. I'm not going to repeat it. Don't look it up. But I promise not to say ash hose when that comes up later in the show as well. What about the Los Angeles anals? We can't get into it now. We must save it. Although I got nothing else.

This conversation makes me so mad because I'm not the conversation I'm having with you. The conversation that I'm imagining happened around the naming of this amphitheater, which was somebody was like, okay, it's an RV park, but you can RV in style. They've got a lot of perks. They've got probably some kind of pickleball courts and all kinds. You're RVing in style, Andrew.

This is not your grandfather's RV park.

No. This ain't no KOA, brother. Right. Okay. This is, you're RVing in style. But then someone's like, okay, but also we do have resort facilities. And what if they don't have an RV? What if they're driving by? What if they're on their way to see Don Fingersfelder? By the way, I don't know if you've heard this. 2024 is really shaping up to be Don Fingersfelder's year. He is back in the driver's seat, baby.

Can we circle back on that and see how it went? Because that's what the press release still says, right?

That's what the bio on the Emerald Queen Casino listing for Don Fingersfeld.

1983 is shaping up to be a big year for the Eagles. The man who brought the rock and roll edge to the Eagles.

So, like, imagine you're driving on Interstate 5. You're me. You're going down to the big city, a.k.a. Portland. Actually, a.k.a. Salmon Creek, where they now have a Trader Joe's and soon an In-N-Out. And that, my friend, is going to be a titanic shit show.

But you should specify, in is spelled with two N's in this case as well. Exactly. It's not the In-N-Out that everybody is familiar with.

It's the RV In-N-Out-style resort, animal-style amphitheater.

Roxito, right. Roxito Hotline. You got it.

Like, there's one, there is just, there's nothing white people like in In-N-Out that's far away from other In-N-Outs. There's one in Kaiser, Oregon Which is down near Salem On the way to Salem where Becca's mom lives And so we go down to Salem a lot And as you're driving by Kaiser There is a perennial and perpetual Insane line To go through the In-N-Out And again, you know, it's a fun place I've been to In-N-Out I have no qualms with In-N-Out per se

Can I ask you a quick question? In-N-Out is I don't think I've ever had a burger there Or ever been there before But this is the one that is kind of the iconic L.A. place That people freak out about Okay, gotcha. I get some of those burger joints confused.

And even the ones in L.A. will have a line, but there's a good number of them there. But because they're so iconic, when you put one in like a Kaiser, Oregon, or a Ridgefield, Washington, it becomes people's entire personality to go to the In-N-Out, to wait in line at the In-N-Out.

I've seen Chick-fil-A do that to communities.

Yes, exactly. Except In-N-Out is, I believe, open on Sunday. Ah, yes. One extra day to have a crazy line. And again, it's next to a sparkling new Costco. Like they almost share a parking lot. So just think about the demo overlap. Think about the Canyoneros full of kids named Braylon that have recently Costcoed and are now celebrating by getting a 4x4 animal style.

I do believe one of our dazzling donors today is named Braylon, though. So ease up on that.

Peace and love.

Yes, peace and love to all Braylins.

But yeah, it's funny because they have such the, what do you call it? The look of an In-N-Out is so iconic that it's not even, it's just plywood right now, but I know it's going to be an In-N-Out.

Because of the building shape. You know, this is, again, I'm really in the dark on this one.

or maybe in the shade, because I know of In-N-Out's, I can picture the sign, the iconic logo, but it's not like a Pizza Hut for me, where I can see a Pizza Hut, or I see a craft shop, and I'm like, ah, somebody used to be a Pizza Hut.

Right, and you know, as I think about it, I don't know if every In-N-Out has the same architectural style. I actually don't know if that's the case. In fact, maybe I think it's not now that I'm kind of playing this out of my mind. What I can tell you is, I've been driving past this, Again, it's just plywood right now. It's basically the cladding, not the cladding, but like the, you know, the building is built. It's plywood. It doesn't have on like whatever stucco or siding it's going to ultimately have. And I kept looking at it like, what is that going to be? And then it just hit me. Oh, that's going to be an in and out. So maybe there's enough of them that are built in this style that I recognize it. But anyway, let's just imagine you got Braylon, Cooper, and Kalen in the back seat. And you are driving. Now you're returning down to North Vancouver, Washington area.

You just got into a fight with Braylon's coach at Little League at a big game.

You're driving. I am hoping nobody taped it on their cell phone and turned it over to the police.

You just got ejected for questioning a call by the umpire.

I have been trespassed from the North Vancouver Little League. And honestly, they had a point. You need a burger. You're driving south now And you're going past the Clark County Fairgrounds And somewhere, and it's not even that big There is a sign that indicates That the amphitheater Where Don Felder will be playing Is called the RV in style And you think to yourself Not for me I don't have an RV And then you see the word resort And you're like, it could be for me It's also a resort, Andrew But is it an inn?

Is there any way for me to figure out If there's room at the inn.

It's weird because their mascot is an old man in a nightgown holding one of those candles, opening the door of the inn, telling you that there's no more room. Uh-huh. Yeah.

Anyway.

That's where Don Felder's playing.

Kevin the Creeper Crowley is his name. He actually grew up in town, by the way, the old man who holds the door open for you.

You know who we're trying to get on Livewire for next fall?

Kevin the Creeper Crowley?

Huh? Close. Elvira. Oh, no kidding. Yes, because she has a cookbook coming out in the fall, the Elvira cookbook. I believe her name is Cassandra Peterson. I don't know if you saw this video.

I was trying to remember her name. It is Cassandra, yeah.

So it turns out she lives in Portland now. She moved up to Portland a few years ago, and she recently donated her Tesla to charity and gave the money to NPR.

Oh, nice.

Elvira with the good takes.

I don't know why, when you said Elvira, like, I'm not somebody who grew up a big Elvira fan. I remember seeing her. She cut quite a figure. I don't know if you'll recall.

I don't see Tita's, Andrew.

Well, save it for the baseball hat show, exactly, segment. But anyway, I feel like I spent a couple of decades not really thinking about her.

But walking by her in the beer section of the grocery store and cut out of her, doing like some kind of Bud Light or Miller Lite ad. I feel like she was omnipresent in our childhood.

Especially around Halloween, of course. But anyway, I just sort of feel like, yeah, lately I've been hearing, oh, yeah, the woman who plays Elvira is like a really good person. I don't know why. I just feel like lately I've been getting that glow off of stories about her. That's cool.

I believe you're getting an accurate glow, at least as it relates to her giving away her Tesla and giving the money to NPR and doing a whole kind of video about basically like, not being a fan of Elon Musk which I really appreciated

I wonder what the charity is going to do with that car like stop egging the charity car we're taking orphans to the hospital in this thing and people are spray painting swastikas on it

I don't know how actually common this is or if this was just like a New York Times trend piece and that three people did it and now we're talking about like it's a thing but I did see some photos on the internet of people who have modified their tesla to look like they changed the tesla logo

to be oh yeah oh that's all over the place yeah yeah on the seattle subreddit there's like five photos of somebody painted their i don't know if this was photoshopped or not or somebody is just has a great sense of humor somebody has spray painted their cyber truck white and put the rivian logo spaced out you know it's just the simple words rivian they spelled that rivian across the back that's pretty great yeah i mean again i absolutely support that person

yeah oh you think someone did it to someone's car no no no i you think somebody did that to

their own cyber truck the idea of this photo is that somebody did this to their own cyber truck

my question is it's one of those eat more chicken Back to Chick-fil-A. My question is. Like the cows spray paint and eat more chicken.

No, it was definitely somebody who's like kind of like, you know, getting on this trend of disguising their car as something else. But it's obviously a joke. I just don't know if the joke started with somebody actually doing this to their car or if we live in 2025 and I can't believe my eyes. Like, did somebody modify this in Photoshop to make it look this way? I'm not sure where the joke is.

Are you saying that it looks like somebody rattle canned it, as we used to say? Oh, what does that mean? When somebody would paint their car in high school, but they would spray paint, they'd buy like 30 cans of Krylon, and they would rattle can it, and it did not turn out great.

I've never heard that term before.

They didn't have the $200 for Mako.

I'm thinking of two rattle canned cars that I know of right now. One was rattle canned pink two weeks ago and turned on its side. Was this near the chop shop? No. Well, yeah, in my neighborhood. But it's like there's this weird, it's really hard to describe, but there's this weird little cutoff road that just goes like kind of one way past a park. Oh, you know the park where they play disc golf? Oh, sure.

You know, that little, that little, that's a funky little kind of triangle of land.

I'm glad you know it. And I'm really glad I couldn't explain this to our listeners in Philadelphia.

This is going out to everyone in Baltimore.

That's right.

That's very close to Well the Seattle Police North Precinct Where I've spent some time And also a public health center Which is where I used to go To get my health publicly dealt with When I was a kid

Oh that's interesting That's right past that I remember you talking That's where you saw condoms

That's where I saw I didn't realize that I saw

I condomed I didn't realize I didn't realize that that's the that i often pass the building where you condomed um but uh i did for the record i didn't condom

in the building i brought them home i locked myself we didn't have a lock i shut the door on the one bathroom uh-huh this is the i've mentioned this before this is what's so weird about my childhood is uh nine people in the house that's not technically true not at the same time but let's just go with seven a number being seven it would be probably an average one bathroom i don't remember it being a problem and then I've you know I've lived with people in my life and in houses that have like three to four bathrooms and I've been like are you almost done in there yeah I don't know how it wasn't an issue I don't know how there was the privacy for me to go into this bathroom as a 13 year old close the door put a condom on myself to just see and nobody was knocking on that door like we need to get in there like that you would think there would just be it would be grand you know grand

central station well when you weren't experimenting with your sexuality were you did you i mean ironically years later i i should have been wearing a condom and there is a lot of i mean thank god i

wasn't because then we've got to we've got to jingle all the doors kind of situation but but

like i think that at a pretty young age i was you know i don't know if this is learned behavior or if it's just instinctual or if it's just the draw of a huge stack of old readers digest that we kept in the back of the toilet, but I was a camper pretty early on. I would camp out in the bathroom.

Have you ever RV'd in style?

Yeah, in style.

By the way, it's also a resort.

Yes. No, there was no reading material. I did go to the bathroom in an RV one time when it wasn't hooked up to water. I got in trouble for that or whatever it was.

There was no reading material in our bathroom.

Yeah, see, you probably just didn't have that culture. You probably didn't think about it because it wasn't something being taken away from you, But I probably couldn't have gotten away with my drama-in-real-life reading on the toilet in your house.

I've definitely made up for that in my adulthood. I've become quite the—I've RV'd in style in many a bathroom in my adulthood. But yeah, as a kid, it was not a place to—you did not tarry in that bathroom, again, unless you were experimenting with safe sex. But it didn't feel like pressure, though. I mean, it just tells you how effective Salt and Pepper were.

But yeah, and so I—oh, when you said you put it on, you mean you put it on your eye. in his package oh that's a much less upsetting uh image actually good i'm happy to hear that

no it didn't feel in the bathroom uh growing up it wasn't like it wasn't like the opening scene of caddy shack which i talk about the movie caddy shack a lot on this show because first of all i just love that movie it's very funny to me but it's also just so funny how like it starts off as kind of one sort of movie and then they just completely forget about the plot of danny noonan is about to be a teen parent. Speaking of teen parenthood, so the beginning of Caddyshack is at the Noonan household where there's like too many kids and a beleaguered father and they're banging away on the bathroom door and I don't know if it's Danny Noonan's sisters or if it's him or somebody's in the bathroom, maybe he's in the bathroom doing his hair. There's a whole situation of like a traffic jam, a Chris Sullivan choke point at the Noonan family bathroom. And then Danny goes down. I believe he gets on his 10 speed. He rides over. to bushwood uh country club where he's a caddy and uh and and then he finds out from his for some reason irish girlfriend that she's pregnant they met at a law enforcement conference law enforcement convention please go back to episode 2640 to learn what that means and then like this is again maybe i relate to this because of my uh own assorted past but like This is a big part of the plot that is, if I remember right, never revisited once he starts like, you know, once he and Judge Schmale start chopping it up around the, you know, the Bushwood scholarship. How about a fresca? Oh, that's what that's from. That's Judge Schmale talking to Danny Noonan. I didn't know what that was from. It's not just an audio drop, Andrew. It's a lifestyle.

Right. Oh, and as he takes a sip from his fresca. Double fisting. There was a rattle-canned pink car on its side next to that park. That's all. I just wanted to let people know why I started saying that. On its side. It was the weirdest thing. So you can – listeners, I'm talking to Luke here. Luke, you can picture the purpose of that road, right? You're coming off of what is Northgate Way at this weird little S-turn. It's an absolute bitch to take a left off of. You can't take a left. You're not really supposed to. Legally or practically. It's a one-way for the block past.

How am I going to get to the Arby's? How am I going to get to the – The Arby's is gone, my friend. How am I going to get the, what would you call it, the ceremonial grounds that used to be the Arby's?

Do you know that in the, I don't really have a lot on this pink car. It was just flipped on its side. I have a lot of questions, though. Okay, I'll tell you what I saw, but I do want to let you know.

Think about how many people it took to get it onto its side. I've been, ah, but it might have flipped. Or one very, very triggered mother.

Okay, listen, let me, okay, I'll scrap what I was going to say and just get back to this. So that road, you're really only supposed to take it one way, and it's when you're coming off of Northgate Way, right at that S-turn, you're heading east, and this is kind of a little shortcut to either the highway or really to the community college that's back there, right? And so you're on Northgate Way. You take a right, kind of a weird kind of right onto this thing that splits off. Where you've turned off, it's like you said, it's almost like a little triangle there, and it's a one-way. They do not want cars kind of getting to Northgate way from there. You're only it's only egress off. I don't know if egress is the right word there. So when you take that weird kind of right and you look to your left, there's this little just dead area where sometimes an old car is parked or an old truck or whatever. There's a truck with a flat tire there forever. It's right like kind of at the beginning of the park. Instead of a car being parked there on Sunday, this is a couple of Sundays ago. I was shocked to see that there was a bright pink car, but clearly, to use my new favorite word, rattle-canned pink. It's on its side, so it's on its side so that the wheels are facing the park and the top of the car is facing me. When I look out my driver's side window to the left, I'm seeing the top of the car. I'm seeing the trunk is open with a bunch of stuff coming out of it. I'm seeing a young woman who looks like she might have rattle canned her car pink sitting on the ground looking very calmly. But and there are two police officers standing there in a car with its in a cop car with its lights flashing. And I saw it all so quickly and I had to take it in quickly and I couldn't be a look at me, Louie. And I couldn't turn around or anything is the weirdness of this area. But it's lived in my head kind of like a flashing scene in Lost Highway or some.

I was going to say, I know I've overused the David Lynchian sort of thing recently, but that sounds very Lynchian. She had this big plastic wig.

Oh, okay, okay, yeah, that you were watching a David Lynch film. Yes, and there were three singers singing an old 50s tune behind her. No, but it really was, it was like one of those things. Dean Stockwell there. Yes, he was. But weirdly he was saying, Sam. Ziggy. Ziggy, you gotta, Ziggy says you gotta go back, Sam. Not my best Dean Stockwell, but also not my worst. You should have heard it before. You should have heard the other Dean Stockwell. Anyway, it was just a lot to take in in a split second. And it was like afternoon, too. It would have been really weird if it was nighttime. I do not know if the young woman who I'm taking to be the owner of the car, I'm guessing the driver of the car. I don't know if she was handcuffed. That's the thing. I remember thinking like, oh, she looks like she's just sitting amongst her things that are kind of piling out of the trunk. Like she decided to flip her car and then have maybe a drug-induced picnic or something there. It was a very strange scene. But she might have been cuffed and maybe just looking calm because her arms were behind her back. I don't know. It all went by very, very quickly.

So it's your sense that this car got on its side because of basically an auto accident of sorts, maybe a one-car accident. I don't know if you've been hearing about these one-car accidents lately.

I don't know.

know if it's video games or what do you think it was video games or what that's a really good

point this is exactly this is exactly what scott hoy has been talking about no but in in all

seriousness so sorry it is crazy that we're just it's crazy it is insane that we're discussing a one car accident on this of all weeks on this the day of my daughter's wedding um but seriously it's the only logical explanation of how this car got this way is somebody was driving it they sort of swerved in such a way that it got up on its side because otherwise you would have had to get a team of circus strongmen to push it up on its side which would make no sense.

And I feel like you'd flip it the other way and it is sort of up on a hill there because if you can picture it if you are going the wrong way on that road because it's kind of two way up until the very end and it's like that last little weird block they're like they have built out this little like preventative sort of curb in the road A chicane

A chicane's more of a bump

i think it's like a rattle chicane um anyway uh so they have it kind of so i could see this person maybe like driving too quickly maybe again i don't want to stereotype up just based on some of the indicators that i saw this person could potentially have not been sober you know like

kind of going up on this pink car up on its side that might have yes right tipped you off

And the bong with the scary clown face on it coming out of the trunk.

That also is kind of a dead giveaway.

Yeah, I don't know. But I could see this person maybe kind of coming up, maybe realizing at the last minute, oh, this is a one-way, or just not knowing, or maybe even just going for a bad parking job. Maybe it was up on the hill. I could also see a bunch of weirdos maybe saying, hey, wouldn't it be funny if we flipped your car, Sabrina? I don't know. I'm calling her Sabrina. I don't know why. A lot of weird stuff happens in that area.

uh-huh it's interesting because like if you if you offered me a million dollars to either flip a car or get it up on its side i wouldn't even know how to begin yeah like i wouldn't know how to i don't mean like physically push it i mean to do that while driving you know it happens it like in all of my in all of my maybe just because i'm a kind of a a hans mohlmann style of driver but like in all my driving i don't think and i'm you know 48 years old i've i don't think i've ever had a car up on even you know almost two wheels like that's just i don't think most people have that's a stunt well i don't know i mean you know cars flip over yeah you know you'll see that occasionally you'll see that on the like you know on the freeway or something like down in the ravine or whatever like i i've personally witnessed i'd say 10 to 15 cars that were flipped in my life like you know through driving seeing them that just seems like a lot to me like considering how it's never even been close to a possibility for me yeah yeah me

neither luckily if anything it would have been during like a some sort of snow event in cleveland maybe like parking on some weird thing or sliding down some weird thing luckily i have not been yeah i've been really lucky when it comes to that stuff but yeah this was a real this was a real mystery and i'll tell you what if it was at night time it would have been right out of lost highway

seriously just like a couple of fires burning yeah right and a guy with no eyebrows nearby

silently yes uh it's gone though now right the pink car yeah it was gone like um pretty quickly i never saw it again that's why and again i should mention this i was saying that the the driver of the car you know could have been impaired i was tripping so hard sure like i need to make that a lot of dramamine because i was going did anyone hand you a condom somebody removed it from their eye and handed it to me and said follow me and i said left yeah it's so left eye left eye not

lefty sorry what a different band wouldn't it be funny if it was t-boss chili and lefty lefty there's like one guy playing like a like one guy playing an upright bass

tlc that's lefty she's a soft toss and lefty all right um that's all i got that are we done No, we're taking the donut. I haven't done my homework. I haven't done my Blur's Day prep, so I don't know what we're going to do.

I like this new kind of shoot-from-the-hip Blur's Day thing where we're just, you know, it's basically, it's farm-to-table. Yes. It's coming right out of the inbox. It's not ultra-processed. It's like, you've pulled these Blur's Days right out of the earth, and they might have a little dirt on them. You're presenting them to the listeners basically minutes from being pulled out of the ground.

That's right. And they're dirty. They're dirty, Luke.

The hair, Dad. Go back and listen to episode 3,240. Start with number one. Yeah. It'll all make sense. We was hoping for some razzle-dazzle. Razzle-dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle-dazzle.

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready.

All right, let's go ahead and thank those dazzling donors right now. These folks who I am about to honor, I do believe that is the term, they are helping TBTL exist with their donation. And the first person has helped TBTL in so many ways, including hosting us, including making this, I'll move this way, this beautiful artwork behind me, Andrew, It says Madrone Hill.

And mine, which is almost always behind me in the camera there. You can see the TBTL woodcut back there.

Talking about Jamie Nettles in Columbus, Mississippi. In the pronunciation, Jamie says Jamie, and then Net Tulls, and then says the sewists will get this. And that leads me to believe that is some kind of a sewing reference that I do not pick up.

that confused me because now I'm thinking it's needles because sewers use needles.

But look at the, I mean, net tolls?

No, it's got to be nettles. I'm just saying. Net tolls?

My point is I think I'm an idiot. Needles would be the more obvious.

Sorry to confuse things.

Listen, since Joanne shut down, none of us have been the same. I don't know where to go for my notions.

Genevieve was ripshit the other day. She went in there to get some patterns or something. It was a total disaster area.

I actually wanted to talk about this tomorrow on the show. Jamie, this is on you, my friend. When you said the sewists, you sewist this, and you're about to reap it as a listener. Do you know that Joanne is not honoring gift cards now?

Well, are they still standing? Are they totally out of business?

I mean, I think you can still get in there for the moment. Really? Basically, before the doors have been shut. I just read an article today. I actually sent it to myself to talk about it tomorrow, but now I'm talking about it here. Yeah, they are. They're just. If you have a gift card for Joanne Fabric, you are SOL, my friend.

That is awful.

Like, illegal, right?

Yeah. You would think, but they might be sort of Rocky-fiving it at this point. Sue me for what? Sue me for what? So me. Now, is that a short title? We got there, and it wasn't condom-related.

Thanks, Jamie. A shout-out to a dog doesn't make sense in any way. A mostly deaf one at that. But I started listening when my dog, Cerberus, a.k.a. Sir, was a puppy. By the way, don't take Cerberus if you're allergic to Cerberus, Andrew. Spelt with a C. Jamie started listening when Sir was a puppy, and he is now an elderly good boy winding down. I've spent at least an hour a day listening to TBTL and running with our now mostly walking with him to keep him from waking me up earlier and earlier. I cued leaving for our jog with the intro music. He would get so excited to hear it, and it was always a cute party trick. Oh, my gosh, Jamie, that is such a cool story. Heartwarming. So Jamie would play the TBTL intro music, and Sir would perk up because he identified it, or even still identifies it with We're Going Out.

And then she would play the Blur's Day music for him. He'd be like, are you kidding me? We're still doing this? Come on, man.

And he'd be like, I don't think Andrew prepped me this.

He's just really fallen down on the job lately, Jamie.

Jamie says, I suspect our time together won't last much longer, but after 15 years, we still get up and go, rain or shine, and I still look forward to TBTL getting me ready to face the world. Ah, Jamie, we appreciate you so much. Remember also, Jamie won the bizarro contest of, Jamie was patient zero Of the spread Spread the disease that is TBTL To as many people as possible

I believe Also she was a COVID super spreader right I'm sorry I'm looking at the notes wrong That is not a fact

Was there a point where Jamie was I think this is a Mandela thing But she wasn't driving down the street Playing it Out of her car Like somebody running for dog catcher In the 1950s

No, but she did.

Like somebody who you'd like to like Ike.

She got a local, I think her, like, cafe or something. That was it. It was in some kind of a business. A whole business, a whole bunch of annoyed people who just wanted their coffee and their flat whites. Is that a thing? Had to listen to us. Probably not in Columbus. Yeah, maybe not in Columbus. But anyway, yeah, when you were going over Jamie's accolades before, I was going to say, she also is the person who has at least, I'm going to use the word exposed. I know you told me not to use that word on the show anymore, but exposed the most people to TBTL, if not converted them.

Yes, I don't know what the conversion rate is, but I know that the number of people that heard TBTL for even a moment because of Jamie, well, that's why she won the contest. That's why Jamie won.

the incredible honor of us showing up at her house probably a little ripe from the road yes to host an episode of the show in her house little at sunstroke studio that's right and i just

remember everybody freaking out about the chicken drawer i know we've we've uh yeah i'm i'm a lot of ink on that but i'm guilty i remember i mean listen i'm not guilty of anything it's an amazing thing to have a chicken drawer it was just that you know at a certain point it became clear that the chicken drawer was the star of the show and we were sort of the opening act for we were told

that it was going to say tbtl with luke and andrew and then the subheading was going to be featuring the chicken that's right there the chicken drawer had top thank you yes so you do understand and

you do remember this well thank you yes it was a little bit it was the it was the rv in style

Resort's Chicken Drawer featuring TBTL with Luke and Andrew.

That's right. With Luke featuring Andrew, which I got two featuring. Yeah, which you were not happy about. Yeah, I was really buried. It was with Luke

featuring Special Guest.

Rattlecan. Rattlecan and Chicken Drawer. Yep, Rattlecan Annie. I do feel like we're kind of getting in some 90s grunge territory. Like, couldn't you see yourself going to Chop Suey in the late 90s? Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. You saw Rattlecan and Chicken Drawer?

Well, there was, yeah. Oh, 100%. There was a band called Rattletrap.

Oh, really? There you go.

Back in the day. Yeah. And there was Hammerbox. And then there was also, Hammerbox was a big one. And then I worked at Bumpy's Fruit and Yogurt with a guy, Eric Aho was his name, and he was in, not Hammerbox, but another grunge band in Seattle that was kind of popular that had Box in the name. There was a lot of box-related bands back in the day. Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like you could have created, you could create one of those like online randomized grunge band makers. Anyway, back to

Jamie here. Jamie says, I am so grateful to you all for keeping the mood to quiet desperation and not utter panic. I can only absorb so much reality. You and me both, Jamie. Thank you to my TBTL friends to IRL and online. P.S. If any listeners know Glitter Fox, tell them they need to come play at Sunstroke House when they come south. Funny you'd mention it, Jamie. We're doing a live wire pop-up at Kiln in Portland in July and Glitter Fox is the band. When I see them in July, I will tell them to stop by Sunstroke Studio. Hey, wow! I mean, you know what? This dazzling donor message is really paying off. Asked and answered. I am literally going to be spending time with the fine folks from Glitter Fox, Jamie, and I will tell them all about Sunstroke Studio. And then later, the chicken drawer. I'm going to low-key that so that they don't get upstaged by the chicken drawer like so many have before.

So many tiers of performers.

Yes. No Mountain Too Tall, signed Jamie. Thanks, Jamie. Appreciate you always. Maestro?

On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dattle.

Look who it is. It's Nicole Giuliani in Eugene, Oregon. Nicole says in the pronunciation part of the message, same as Rudy, but still no relation. um nicole is down in eugene oregon i've got a i got a whole thing on eugene oregon right now yeah yeah it's not a good thing not an interesting thing the other day becca and i were on a walk and we were talking about the the the new york times food writer pete wells who had been the restaurant reviewer remember he got kind of a lot of attention when he stepped away from the restaurant beat because his like his levels you know his his blood markers were really really out of whack from eating all of the

really rich food. No, I don't remember this.

He did a lot of kind of exit interviews about like the actual physical toll it can take on a person to be a restaurant

reviewer. Oh, interesting. And of course your upper lip goes bad because of all the fake mustaches you have to wear. Yes, they call that reicheling.

Immediate to moderate reicheling.

That was pretty good. But so

like two days ago, Becca and I were on a walk And for some reason Pete Wells had been doing an interview somewhere Because he famously Maybe his most known piece in the New York Times Was when he just really went to town On the Guy Fieri restaurant in Times Square

Oh, okay

He just wrote a pretty scathing review of it And I think he was on a podcast Becca listens to tons of cooking and food podcasts I think he was on Milk Street or something Pete Wells was

And this would have been back in the day When people were piling up on Guy Fieri more, I'm assuming

I think so, yeah i mean i and i think that the issue was that the food was was in pete wells's opinion actually very very bad like it wasn't just like guy fieri looks silly with his hair or whatever it's like actual poor execution i think that the people i didn't hear the show but becca related to me they said uh Do you regret writing this review?

And he said, no, because it's really what I thought. But so that's like two days ago. Then flash forward to yesterday, Andrew. Pete Wells is checking in from Eugene, Oregon, where he's writing a story about truffles. And then he starts the piece by going, anybody associated with the movie Pig is a liar or owes me an apology. And now guess who's associated with the movie Pig? Very sort of in a kind of glancing way. Becca, my girlfriend. She was an extra in that movie She was sitting next to Nicolas Cage in the movie Pig For like two solid days As an extra in this restaurant scene So Tuesday we're talking about Pete Wells Wednesday there's a Pete Wells story that's based in Eugene, Oregon Where she went to college And it starts by saying anyone in the movie Pig needs to apologize to me Which is a thing that actually Relates to my girlfriend

Did she apologize? Yes How did she get the letter to him? Wait, how old is Pig by the way? I think that is a new movie in that, was Becca in college

really? No, no, no. She went to college in Eugene because she went to the University of Oregon

regrettably. This wasn't when she was in college. No, this was

probably like four years ago.

Oh, okay, yeah, because I thought Pig was a relatively new movie. I have not seen it. It seems like it's weird. It might be up my alley.

I really liked it. I mean, it's Nicolas Cage, so there is a weird, gratuitous scene where he has to fight someone in the what are called the tunnels under Portland which are a real thing you know they had these tunnels back in the turn of the century I think and I think they were used by by maybe people that were in the restaurant industry particularly people that Chinese restaurants I think they're called like the Chinese tunnels or something okay but it's I think it's a pretty interesting movie pretty entertaining movie but it just was funny this is all brings you back to Nicole Giuliani being in Eugene Oregon I don't know if Nicole saw Pete Wells wandering around looking for truffles the point of people's opening graph was that the movie pig makes you think that people in oregon are finding truffles with a pig because the premise of that movie is nicholas cage was like a kind of a you know james beard award-winning chef in portland and then he lost it all and now he's living out in the wilderness of oregon with this beloved pig and this pig is beloved or beloved because it can find truffles for him and then somebody steals his pig and then Nicolas Cage has to go down to Portland and rattle some traps, rattle some cages, rattle some cans, and get his pig back.

Well, then what is Daddy Longlegs about or whatever that other one he's in?

I don't know, but even two seconds of that movie gives me a terror that I can't describe. Well, that's the thing.

I only know of those two movies. I now know more about Pig. I've learned more about Pig in the past 30 seconds than I've known my whole life, right? And it's been out for a few years. All I knew was it was sort of dark. I thought that pig was sort of dark and upsetting. Maybe I'm wrong about that. No, it's not. It's not at all.

I think it's just called Long Legs.

And then it's not Daddy Long Legs. No, no, no.

I would watch a movie about a huge spider that terrorizes a town before I would watch Long Legs. It is. I don't know what is going on with Nicolas Cage in that movie, but it is terrifying.

Daddy's Home 2 Long Legs. Is that the movie? I think I'm confusing those two movies. Yeah, confusing Adam Sandler with Nicolas Cage. Yes, okay.

Okay, back to Nicole's message in Eugene, Oregon. I am in the very privileged position to be able to be a dazzling donor for many years running now. And that means I've been able to support my favorite podcast, RAR, but I've totally run out of dazzling things to say. Not awesome. I should pre-read these. I could have had those drops ready. I'm sorry, Nicole. So I'll just share my ongoing appreciation for this podcast and community. I've been listening since the late radio days and TBTL has carried me through almost all of my major life events you are my ear friendos day in and day out and this community provides support and hope to so many of us I am so grateful to be part of this weird little world and to help keep it going and one of these days I may even make it to a live event yeah Nicole you've more than supported the show and now it's time for you to reap the benefits of keeping TBTL going by getting to get eyes on me and Andrew, a.k.a. Long Legs.

Now, just up together, we're known as Long Legs.

If you put two of us in a trench coat,

we equal one Long Legs. Just so you know, I mean, and I do hope you make it out to a live show, but just so you know, Nicole, I'm not allowed on the main stage anymore, apparently. They keep on putting me further and further away from where the action is. I don't know if you heard in Philly, they put me up in like some sort of a balcony somewhere and made me cover my face.

probably the funniest thing i guess we're in 2025 now and that was was that 2024 when we did that that was september of 2024 yeah i will say that one of the funniest things i saw in 2024 was you in the balcony i i could not stop laughing i was ready for that moment but then there was something

about the moment I was walked out i got flushed or something and then suddenly because i had to wear my glasses over the top of the mess and then i was like i was already i was already but then at the very last minute suddenly my glasses just totally fogged up and i've already got this mask on i'm trying to keep the glass i shudder to think of what that moment must have looked like but i'm glad it made

you were pretty far away so like if you hadn't pointed out people wouldn't know your glasses

were fogged i was just just i was just stumbling around though i couldn't see anything maybe the

that you added to the humor the door that you emerged from into that balcony with the cape on it was great I really appreciate you committing to that

yeah sure

Nicole says I may even make it to a live event thank you Luke, Andrew and John for all that you do thank you for all that you've done Nicole we really do appreciate it we couldn't do this without you so thank you for the support Hello, and welcome to Top Story. Now, speaking of dazzling donors, Andrew, I want to clarify something. I want to correct a mistake that we made yesterday, and it actually relates to our top story, because guess what? Remember yesterday? I remember it like it was yesterday, Andrew. Sort of, yes. We were reading a thank you to a dazzling donor, our friend, I believe, Lisa, right? In Ohio. Yes, in Lakewood. and we were talking about lisa's podcast lisa does a podcast about the olympics and the paralympics and we were reading what i thought was the url for lisa's podcast and i even had the thought as i was reading and i was like well the show is flame alive why would the website not reflect the name of the show and i didn't i did not trust my instincts i did not trust the still small voice so yesterday i erroneously read the wrong web address for lisa's podcast so i want to give the real address which is flamealivepod.com so the word flame we've seen that word before alive we've also seen that word and then pod these are three words we're familiar with well pod is an abbreviation of a longer word i would say right pod cart flame alive pod i believe i left the a

out yesterday yes it was it wasn't there and you're taking a lot of heat it wasn't in the copy at the time i just want to throw that out there yeah but i still but i had a feeling i was like

I knew something was off

But the name of the show is Keep the Flame Alive That's the name of the podcast So that's how you can remember flamealivepod.com As we were reading it I'm like oh I'd like to check it out And I was clicking on the link and it was going to a dead end And I was like what? How do we fix this? And I couldn't fix it live on the air Because I wasn't sure what was going on And I didn't have the deductive skills

Meanwhile I was I saw your email to John To say hey can we double check this?

Oh yeah because I sent that during the show

And then I double-checked it and figured out what we had done wrong. And then I sent John a message saying, oh, here's what it actually is. And then John had already sent a message just to you directly. It was a comedy of errors. Yes, all while we were recording the show, I think. That's right. So if it sounded a little funky, not in a good way yesterday, that's what was going on. And this is the thing, Andrew. Jamie, excuse me, Lisa is also the person who sent a link to what is the top story today. I mean, what are the chances? Hat tip to our friend Lisa of the Flame Alive podcast. Keep the Flame Alive. What's it called again?

Flame Alive pod is where you're going to want to go for that. That is the website.

Lisa is the one who sent us this article from The Athletic, which I don't pay for, by the way. I pay for The New York Times, but not The Athletic. It's an extra. No. It's not part of your thing? It's a lanyop. It isn't. How is that? I don't have full – I believe to get all of it, which includes New York Times cooking and The Athletic, I think you have to pay at a higher tier than I'm paying.

Are you surprised to hear that we are paying that higher tier? I am. That's many Fubos. I mean, what was it? A couple of years ago, they just said, hey, The Athletic is now part of The New York Times and it's part of your subscription, and it's been really great. Well, maybe I am. I don't know. I'll bet you if you just – you might – I think you have to set up a separate account potentially if you want to use the app. But I don't know Let me ask you this

Do you guys get The New York Times Cooking stuff I believe so Yes So I think you're At a higher tier

Okay well there you go Because I keep trying To upsell me Hey I'll share that with you What are you trying to share me You can give me the I'll give you an Apple TV That'd be good for you With severance I know Then you can pause it No it's It's like a real boy We should just have Well whatever We should Never mind

Okay This is an article From The Athletic New Era Texas Rangers hat Now New Era Is a company that makes hats Yeah they're the This is not Like Rick Abbott has not taken over the Texas Rangers as of yet. There's not a new era for the Texas Rangers.

Right. New Era, I'm pretty sure, is the main company that makes all of the official MLB hats. And I remember New Era, you know, when I was... was you know a kid when i was in middle school and uh and i wanted to get a new cap at the pro image at northgate mall that's new era they were the ones that made the fitted baseball caps you know they're kind of like like not the snapback or whatever they call it like the fitted hat that was the that was the move uh anyway uh these uh hats that new era has made for the mlb this year are having some problems the headline is new era texas rangers hat bearing accidental spanish vulgarity disappears from online shop so they decided andrew i don't want to dampen the spirit of creativity but i do think that if you are tasked with coming up with some new shit to do on a baseball hat a hundred plus years into this there's just nothing left to do under the sun and so then you start doing stuff like whatever this person did uh or your team of people did at new era which was to take these the the names of the cities where these baseball teams are and then take the first letter in their in the cities like the the city's not first name but like the uh so for instance the texas rangers it says texas and then in the middle of the word texas It has a huge T, I think, because T is the first letter in Texas.

Yes, yes and no. Let me clean that up for you a little bit. I've been following this for a while. It's the team logo, and in many cases, the team logo is a letter. So most of these, or two letters in the case of L.A. or New York, right? So a lot of these are, they just look like weird misspellings. It's like the official font spelling out the name of the city, right, behind it, and then the logo stamped right in the middle of it, covering up some of those letters. But when the logo is another letter, it makes – like it looks – A new word. Yeah, because I'm thinking of the Mariner's cap. It just says Mariners, but then right in the middle of it, they slap the letter S because that's the logo. Seattle, that's the logo. So it looks like Mazers. and the Astros have a big H covering up the T and it looks an R and so it looks like Ashos or Ashos, yes, which sounds filthy. It sounds every filthy.

And also couldn't happen to a nicer team.

There are three teams it works for because their logo isn't letters and it is, you know, I know we have a rivalry, but the Blue Jays and the Orioles and the Brewers. Gotcha. They're not perfect, but they're the only three that work because there's, like, you see the Orioles and then a bird face kind of covering up some of the letters. That's fine. But when you take letters and you say Brewers as well. And the Brewers is a mitt. Yes. So it's the mitt over top of, I think, the word Brewers and then, of course, the Orioles. And then the Blue Jays looks pretty sweet, honestly.

Honestly, the Braves one isn't terrible because their logo is an A.

So it's just like a bigger A.

A bigger A over where the other A is. Yeah. Yeah. But that is not the case for a lot of the teams, including, as we already talked about, the Texas Rangers, where it's the word Texas and then it's a huge T over the X, which is where your eye goes immediately. And it just looks like tetas, which it turns out is, you know, boobs in Spanish.

Yes. Like, which makes it honestly one of the most sought after hats.

Oh, I believe it's already. I know. It's already pulled down, sadly. Did you see last year that they did one For the Oakland Athletics That was like A's It's like A apostrophe S And then another S Because it's again this is what I'm talking about With graphic design which is my passion It's like They're out of ideas Because every year It's like a company that has to continually Increase profits It drives you crazy because it's like I don't know We're selling as much of this stuff as we can It's like you're the new era hat person, and they're like, do something totally new with these hats.

Because we have to sell more. We have to sell more hats. It's like, what if we put ass on it? Okay, that would sell. That A's one, I don't understand how nobody saw that. It's insane.

It's A-S-S.

Yes, it is like all of these new ones this year, they're ugly. There's a bad design idea anyway. And then the TATAS thing, it's kind of like, well, the double meaning there would be lost on you if you're – But also, you know, baseball, a sport that has no Spanish speakers in it. Like, who could have caught that?

And Texas, famously a place that does not have many Spanish speakers in it.

Right.

So the Astros, as we mentioned, it looks basically like A-S-H-O-S, as-ho's. The Angels, because their logo is an A with a halo on it.

They used to be called the Halos. Do they still call them the Halos sometimes? As a nickname, though, right? Yeah.

Yeah, I've heard that.

I've, you know, I've... Seems like a Rick Riz thing. I've droned on... He used to call the White Sox the Pale Hose. For real.

Oh, really?

Yeah, for real. The Pale Hose. Oh, I thought you were just... Like the White Sox.

Oh, I was getting...

That was a nickname for the White Sox.

From the north side of the Bay Area.

I am confused as to the location. In case you're curious, if you have not listened to a Mariners play-by-play broadcast, you don't know why Andrew and I constantly talk about the south side of Chicago. because it's where our play-by-play guy, Rick Riz, is from. And when the Mariners have the misfortune to go play the Chicago White Sox, who are located on the south side of Chicago, if you did this as a drinking game, you would get alcohol poisoning.

That's right.

The number of times that Rick Riz talks about it being on the south side of Chicago. Yes.

And him growing up playing in Sandlots. He's just like, it gets, and again, I don't want to speak ill of the man. He's carried the Mariner's torch for a long time. And he was recently beamed in the head by a foul ball. And he's beenamed in some of the most upsetting baseball sound I've heard.

I wanted to play the audio, and then I listened to it, and then we both agreed, not a good idea.

A septuagenarian just getting nailed by a baseball and then trying to croak out, I'm okay, was not fun sound to hear. No, upsetting. But with all due respect, the romanticism of him growing up playing stickball in the sandlots. With Jackie Robinson. He said he was in the middle of a cornfield, and his dad just built a field. I've never seen Field of Dreams. Anyway, yeah, it's getting pretty gauzy, his memory of his baseball youth.

My rant that I always bring up about the Anaheim Angels is, of course, the fact that Artie Moreno, the owner of the Angels, they were the California Angels when I was a kid. Yeah. Which was fine. and I think they've been located in Anaheim for maybe their whole existence and in order to get this stadium built I think it's Edison Field, I don't know if it's still called that or not but it's RV in style

I've never heard of Edison Field so I don't think that's it

Is that not what they called it anymore? It was at some point called Edison Field

I'm going to look it up here

So Artie Moreno, the owner of the Anaheim Angels wanted to change their name he wanted to get a stadium built and uh and so he got the citizens of anaheim to pay for this expensive stadium and the one thing that the citizens of anaheim i.e their representative said was you got you can't you have to call them the anaheim angels and he agreed to do that and of course he then called them the los angeles angels of anaheim that's right because because it was in the name what they didn't have the foresight to say was anaheim has to be the first city mentioned in the name of the team they didn't do that because it was so preposterous that it wouldn't be, and he went ahead and called them the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Well, anyway, when you put this A logo over angels, you get what looks like a kind of a weird spelling of anals. Yeah, that one, I don't know if I noticed that one. It's just odd. It's just bad

design anyway. It's just ugly.

The Diamondbacks look like Ariana, which also, by the way, not terrible if you're an Ariana Grande fan. That's pretty smart. Or, as Tan Mom says it, Alianna Gonday. That's just for Phyllis.

By the way, it's now called Angel Stadium, which is nice. That's very clean. I love that. And just so you know, this is interesting. It was called Anaheim Stadium since it was built in 1966 through 97. Then, 98 to 2003, it was called Edison International Field of Anaheim.

In. No way.

RV In. No, for real. Edison International Field of Anaheim. That was 98 to 2003. And I apparently, I guess after 2003, it went back to Angel Stadium, which is really I give them credit for that. I'm not. I don't know if I'm being rude to Angels fans out there. I'm not a huge fan of the Angels. The rivalry between them and the Mariners has gotten pretty ugly at times with them, like purposely trying, like putting out pitchers in the first inning specifically just to be in one of our players. Like it was just like there's some ugly stuff that I can't let go of from a couple of seasons ago. But I like this, the address, do you want to guess the address of Angel Stadium?

Is it like on Walt Disney Way or something?

Very close, it's Gene Autry Way, it's 2000 Gene Autry Way.

Gene Autry, I believe, was an early owner of the California Angels.

Right, yes, that's why, of course, yeah.

And do you know that when I worked at KVI Radio and it was owned by Golden West, Gene Autry was the owner of the radio station? You have told me that, yes. And our Christmas bonus was cowboy boots from Gene Autry, the singing cowboy. I hope you still have them. I do not have them, and I am so mad. I am so mad about that. He was the founding owner, so that's really cool. So anyway, I mean, I don't know how much more we have to add to this.

other than to say, you know, it's just like, I guess if you stare at something, I know, groupthink is a very odd phenomenon, right? Because, like, it must have been the case that the team, the design team coming up with this, they were just like, almost like they were standing too close to it. Like, if they would have taken one step back, they would have been like, oh, wait. Oh, I'm sorry, TETAS. Oh, I'm sorry, NAELS. Like, but it's like they were just, like, they agreed that this is what they were going to do, And then they were they were so locked in that, like, nobody I just can't believe that somebody didn't walk into the room when these were all mocked up.

Like an early stage, even if it was just even if it was just pencil on paper. How were you not seeing how this is going to turn out?

And, you know, I my guess is that the designers would have been annoyed.

Like if they're pencil and paper anymore, it just occurred to me. I think mock-ups probably begin on computers now. Probably digital.

but like I could totally see the scene where like you know these designers are are smart talented creative people and they're again they're tasked with something kind of impossible which is like reinvent the baseball cap like look it's like I don't know put the name of the team on there like how do we I mean that this is what you get when you're trying to iterate past what makes any sense right but like yeah if their boss would have walked in and saw this and went you guys this is terrible or not this is terrible but this can't work they would have been so annoyed because they would have been like a month into the process but that would have been the right advice because any normal person looking at this is like this is a very bad idea i wonder if this actually was

top down or something like it's one of those things where like could the boss have saved it or did the boss say hey i have this idea and i don't know who the boss is but some powerful person in the organization tony aneals that you cannot say you cannot say tony assholes he's like what's wrong Yeah, I like this. This is really working. Do you know one of my, and I don't know if this holds up at all, but I remember when I was in high school or younger, maybe even in junior high, there was, I believe at the time, a new SNL sketch that made me and my friend Tony laugh. Is this a Nicolas Cage thing? Was he in? Yes, he is. Mr. Aswipe? I forgot that that's Nicolas Cage. Everything comes back to Cage. I just remembered it as a couple sitting on their couch, and I think the woman is pregnant, and they're having a conversation about what to name the kid, and every idea that the woman suggests, he's like, oh, well, we can just turn that into an insult, and he imagines how kids would twist and just butcher these names into somehow being an insult, and it gets more and more ridiculous, and then it ends.

Yeah, the first few are actually like, he kind of has a point, but then he's torturing He's torturing the idea, you know, as the names are like, you know, Joe or something. And he's just like saying these ridiculous things that no one would ever say. And then, of course, the payoff is at the very end.

Here, let me let me let me play a little bit of this. And then we'll tell you what happens at the end because it's five and a half minutes long. I don't think we can play the whole thing.

Oh, I hear the food's not bad in there.

He's talking to her belly.

Well, stay calm. We'll get you out in a few weeks.

Oh, sweetheart.

You're not missing anything.

It's raining outside. It's Julia Sweeney. She's not very talkative. Oh, we love her. I know.

Wow, just a few more weeks.

I know. You know, honey, we should really start trying to settle on a name.

I really could have cut into this further. I set all this up already.

Really, we should have picked one by now, don't you think?

Well, sure, but it's a difficult thing, you know.

Well, if we could just focus on it a little bit, please.

What? Sure, I've got no problem. I'm thrilled to do this. Let's just do it.

Okay. Well, I was thinking about Joseph.

Joseph?

Yeah, Joseph. Joseph.

Well, it's a nice name, but the kids are going to call him Joe Blow. I mean, as long as you know that, or Sloppy Joe. You know, how are Mr. and Mrs. Schmo?

Well, I guess that's true.

I mean, it's a nice name, but...

Well, that's okay. That's all right. Well, how about John? That's nice and simple.

What, are you serious?

Well, yeah.

John? You want to do that to the kid?

Do what?

Hey, John, hey, let's go to the John, huh, John? Let's go.

Okay, so we see where this is going. I want to now, let's get to the end of the sketch. Maybe I'll try to get, like, one or two last ridiculous names in here.

That sound, well, you better get used to it. Hey, where are you going?

I'm looking at this baby name book. I thought it could help us. How about Bjardker? For our son, Bjardker. B-J-A-A-R-D-K-E-R. It's Icelandic.

Yeah, Bjarke. That's a tough little name to crack. That could be good.

Yeah. Hey, Bjarke, little fella. You just might have a good childhood after all. Talk to you later. I love you. I love you. You sit, honey. All right.

Yes. Hi, how you doing? I got a telegram here for Mr. and Mrs. Asswipe Johnson.

Thank you, that's us.

I'm supposed to read it. Dear Asswipe and Emily, congratulations on your upcoming blessed event. All our love, Bob and Diane. Here you go, sir.

Listen, that's Oz Weepay.

What?

Forget it, forget it.

It's such a good joke. It's a solid, solid joke. Is that a pretty famous sketch? Did I start describing what I thought?

No, it's just I think we're the same age, and I think me and my friends locked in on that as well.

I don't know why I need to bring this up, but I was thinking about the show yesterday, which is something I try not to do. No, you know what it was? I was posting the show yesterday, and I was grabbing an image for our show pic, and I grabbed the image of Christopher Lloyd driving the taxi cab in that 1010-220 commercial. And so I had to watch it again to grab the image. and you're right, at the end of it it's so funny when he says, I'd use it if I had a phone that's a really good joke and I'm proud of the commercial and I'm proud of 1010 220 for putting it in there

yeah, every one of those commercials that's probably, of the ones we played that one works the best, but they all ended on a punchline

yeah, yeah, not bad

Life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be not number one.

All right. You ready to Blurs? Oh, man. I was born ready. Born to Blurs. Yeah. I was able to grab some of these. out of my email my email address by the way if people want to send in a blursday or a birthday message you can email me andrew at tbtl.net you put blursday in the subject line bingo bango bongo

what does kevin say is that what he says probably bingo bango bongo he also says that's my wife he

does say that a lot he's the one who brought it to the table he sure did here's how blursday messages go. Max wrote in to say, happy belated, Blursey, to my long-time friend, an accidental TBTL progenitor, Katie in Seattle. An accidental progenitor. Wait a minute.

You're an accidental progenitor. We know a Katie in Seattle whose birthday it is as well. Is this the same? No, this is a different spelling. This is a different spelling. Whoa. Yes. What are the chances?

Relatively good. I have had I have the pleasure of calling a friend. Katie's one of the brightest, kindest, most endearing people. I have the pleasure of calling a friend. Although our paths don't cross as frequently as I'd like, when they do, it's always a complete joy. An adventure often ensues. Sorry for missing the actual thurs of your blurs, but here's to celebrating many more. That's for Katie with a K in Seattle. Got a question for you, Luke. Yes. Am I applying electricity rules to paths? When our paths cross, when our paths cross, is it paths?

I think paths would be wrong, but paths? No, I don't think you're saying that wrong. I said paths.

I think that's how we say it. There's some jokers out there, Luke. I don't know if you know this, but there's some jokers out there who make fun of the way I say electricity. I love it.

I think it's so much more fun than the real way.

I'm being serious. Arlen says, a shout out to my 11 or 11 and a half, Kathy, who's in Oregon attending a guide dog school for two weeks. Whoa. She's dealt with life-changing challenges over the past five years, and I love and admire her very much. We've been married for 38 years. What? A blurs day to Kathy. That's so far, that's a Katie and a Kathy, both with K's.

Thinking about making it serious?

Yeah, come on. Got to lock that down. 38 years? Congratulations. That's right. Happy Thursday, Kathy. Good to... That dog sounds so real. Good to hear from you, Arlen. See you at the grocery store. Peter says, wishing a happy birthday to Sherry in Port Townsend. She's been listening for many, many years, or decades by now. Never misses a show and still laughs at your jokes and silliness.

Aw, thank you.

I like that Peter says jokes there because, you know, my least favorite New Yorker cartoon because Genevieve laughed too hard at it. It's like a guy sitting at a bar saying to the bartender, they're like, it's something like it's my wife. She doesn't laugh at my joke anymore. It's all too close to home. That's pretty good.

Erica says, this is my birthday wish for my mama, Maggie, from the Middle Shelf. Hey, it's our friend, Maggie. That's right. And Erica, one fun fact about my mama is she is always brushing her teeth. She has the most beautiful and sparkling personality and loves to make sure she always has a shiny smile to match. I love you, mama. That's a nice message. Happy birthday, Maggie.

It's a great. if you're going to have a sort of a habit if you're going to have something that you do sort of almost unconsciously brushing your teeth is a pretty good one

it's a good one and I like the way it matches your personality you're like I'm going to be smiling a lot that's why I keep my armpits clean because I always go around making that farty noise with my hand in my armpit and so if that's going to be my signature trait you've got to keep those puppies clean Happy Blursley Maggie sorry to say all of that on your birthday Speaking of pals is our pal Krista in Eastlake saying happiest of Blur's days to Jennifer. It's been lovely getting to know you better in recent months. You're an inspiration, and we're lucky to have you in the TENS community. Treat yourself for your birthday. Happy Blur's Day, Jennifer. We will see Jennifer at Rough and Tumble at some point.

Ah, yes. I told you that we illegally used their restroom

once. No, when it was Rough and Tumble? Yeah.

Becca and I were, it was around the holidays, and we were wandering around Ballard, and she needed to use the restroom, and Rough and Tumble was right there, but we weren't going there to, like, you know, eat wings or do anything, you know, with the establishment other than use their facilities, and so I tried to distract the host while she went off and did her thing. Can I say something about those bathrooms? Yes. They're great. Oh, really?

Yes, because, you know, they're unisex bathrooms now, and And so they're just, like, very private and just really well-kept. I really like those bathrooms.

I mean, I've said this before, but, like.

They smell so nice. They have great soap.

Of the many things that are so silly to me about the, like, question of who's using what bathroom.

What?

I don't know if it's video games or what, Andrew.

What bathroom? I don't know if it's video games or what bathroom.

But, like, who in the world is upset that maybe there are more places that have a private, nice, everyone is invited, you know, not at the same time, but, like, bathroom that you can now go in? If the point of having bathrooms that are more inclusive to folks, whatever their gender identity might be, is that I get to lock a door and be by myself in a room, I am here for that. I am now remembering. What an upgrade.

There is one thing, and I'm fine with this, but this is one of those places where you can't lock the door to the whole thing. So there could be me, I'm just remembering this now, because I remember I was washing my hands and I think a woman came in to use the stall. I see. So you can't lock the door, but the stall itself is very secure and private. The shared area is for everybody, but then the stalls themselves. It's not one of those things, though, where there's a shared area with a couple of sinks and everybody's washing their hands. It is like walking into a room and you could have a guy like me washing my hands and then a woman go in and use the stall right behind me.

Can you see the feet in the stall?

I don't think so. I remember thinking, because I'm always sort of doing the math on this a little bit because I don't have issues with it. But I grew up, you know, like I'm kind of an older guy who grew up in a, you know, conservative household. I'm not somebody who's been super secure in the way I may be. In your poop-skillinity? What?

You're not secure in your poop-skillinity?

Yes, exactly, or whatever. I'm not secure in any way I present to the world, right? So you could see me being bashful or something in that situation. And you don't have that sense of memory. But I don't. But I'm always sort of running it through my head of like, well, what would folks back home think about this? You know what I mean? There are certain people in my life who we don't really get into it on a political level, but I do wonder, like, what would be the level of comfort if you're like, you know, whatever. And so I'm always wondering, like, how would they deal with this? Because it's really nice. Like, I'm telling you, because everybody can use this bathroom, like, it's just nicer. Like, the soap is nice. It's very – it seems – like, again, the stall seems very private. I can't remember if you can see the feet or not. But either way, it's not an uncomfortable setting for me, for whatever that's worth.

I'm guessing that it must be sufficiently private because you would, if it wasn't, that would be attached to the memory for you.

Yeah, because I'm usually changing my shirt in there, too. Yes, obviously.

You bring about three to four shirts out when you go to watch the game because you'll sweat through at least two of them. Absolutely.

Just get those meat sweats. Corbin says, happy Blur's Day to the one and only Robin in Denver. Hey, Robin. Hey, it's our pal Robin. We love Robin. It has been over seven years since you invited me.

to the What the Hell is TBTL Challenge. We're just talking about it. That was what Jamie won. And you don't believe in a dog. Wow. Thank you for showing me the light and the way of TBTL. Party hard. Let's celebrate soon. So Corbin is literally one of the people who came to listen to TBTL through our outreach efforts of getting people to share the show. Corbin, welcome aboard, new listener Corbin. You know what I would say to Corbin? You get the show. That's right. And happy Blur's Day to Robin. It's so good to see you in the net.

Robin came in hot off of an international flight.

Yeah.

Came right to the event and then shut it down. We were...

Just shut the whole thing down. Said, you all got to get out of here. Yeah, she's like, I'm tired. Everybody go home. I'm tired. Go home. This is where I sleep.

We were at something, I think, called, like, the Crow Bar. It had crow in the name. It was, like, two in the morning. I was... I think I was getting a little, as you would say, a little tight or a little loose. But Robin was keeping up with the best of them, considering that she had just flown in from Spain or something.

You know how sometimes after a really, really long trip, you're tired, but also, I remember I was sort of manic when we got back from Croatia. I was tired, but also super awake at the same time. I kind of can't explain it. And I remember just feeling very manic and getting very little sleep, but the next day riding my bicycle all over town to get to a place where I could watch a Seahawks game.

I remember just feeling like, I have the strength of a thousand men. I didn't know you had a bicycle.

No, a rental. You know, one of those that you wear with your phone. Oh, yeah, yeah, one of the city bikes or what do they call them?

Is it an e-bike?

Yeah, it's an e-bike. Those line bikes are e-bikes.

You know that my e-bike is showing up tomorrow, Andrew.

Oh, I'm excited for that. Things are going to start happening to me now. Nice. Anyway, happy Blur's Day to Robin in Denver. I don't know why I said it like that. Chris and Liz say happy Blur's Day shout out. Huh? I think I read that wrong. Blur's Day shout out to our amazing daughter, Eleanor, who's turning 16. It's hard to believe it's been 16 years. It was even harder to believe that the night she was born, we were listening to TBTL on the radio in the hospital.

That's wild.

From the very beginning, she's been bringing joy, laughter, and probably better takes than Luke and Andrew. Hey, Eleanor. Stay in your lane, Eleanor. I love it. I hope your day is filled. Hold on. I'm calling the birthday police on you. Yeah. No backhanded. That comment. How dare you? No backhanded compliments. I hope your day is filled with all of the things that make you happy, like sirens. Sorry, this is a really long drive. Actually, it really is. And it's actually either appropriate or deeply inappropriate for the rest of the sentence. I hope your day is filled with all of the things that make you happy, unless those things involve driving too fast. In which case, let's take it slow, Eleanor. Happy Blur's Day.

Oh, because Eleanor is turning, or excuse me, is the birthday.

Yes, Eleanor is turning 16. Amazing. I love the name Eleanor. Genevieve said an interesting thing to me recently. Because we have said, and we don't have any intention of having kids. I think that part of our life has passed, and we never intended on having kids. That was never part of the plan. But we did say if we ever had a kid, we would name her Ramona, just because we love the name Ramona. Genevieve reminds me of a Ramona Quimby kind of person. It just sort of fits. In that she is perpetually age eight. It gets weird. um but uh i uh genevieve said something to me are we out of this music already the other day and she i didn't realize that she's like you know i'm always thinking about i'm thinking about like what the middle name would be and then she says to me i know our real fake daughter's name is ramona but i need to figure out what the middle name is i was like oh okay that's right our fake daughter's real name is ramona okay right but anyway eleanor would potentially be a good middle name i will run that by that's a great one yeah test that out try that out what are we gonna do about this music we got to get back to here we can't listen to the whole thing oh that goes on for a while people are

driving right now oh yeah you're right mad at you hey speaking of which andrew i did take my mandatory training on when i'm allowed to use the emergency broadcast system and not is it never because i think you should not be allowed to use it i don't even know where they keep it i don't I mean, it's so silly that I had to take that thing. It's just because I guess I'm on air or whatever. But one of the things they covered was sirens during stories and during, you know, fictionalized CBS programming. And in fact, you can put a siren in. You can, but it's probably not recommended. You're allowed to put a siren in. But if you have any questions about something that might be getting too close to the emergency broadcast, alert. Talk to HR. No, there's a guy named Gary who's the liaison with the FCC. Oh, nice. You run it by Gary.

Can I get Gary's number? No. I have some questions for Gary. I bet you do. About old Sheldon. I need a young Sheldon and an old Sheldon. Okay, Brian in Portland says,

Blur's a shout-out to Joey of the Pine Hearts. I know which Brian this is and which Joey this is. That's right. Joey, I believe, plays slide guitar, right? Also, the musical, Brian plays the slide. Sorry, I messed that up. Brian's a pedal steel guy. I think Brian plays everything. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Pedal steel is a special gusto. Okay, here we go. I'm going to fix this. I'm going to clean all this up. In three, two, and one. Blur! Oh, sorry, I messed that up. Let me try this again. Brian in Portland says Blur's a shout-out to Joey. We have the Pine Hearts, also the musical mind behind the smash hits, boondocked with TBTL, and the right way to remember the wrong kind of night. Wasn't Brian on a flight with us? I think maybe you. Maybe with me. Joey or Brian? Joey.

Brian I would have recognized immediately. I think Joey was on a cross-country flight that I was on, and I think maybe had already written the eternal classic. The right way to remember. The right way to remember the wrong kind of night or whatever. And I think he was going out to, it might have even been like some kind of a music festival. I think Joey was on a flight. I was on a flight with Joey. And we were going to.

Oh, that's. Now, what if a police officer was chasing that airplane? Oh, man. Get over here.

Pull that plane over, Joey.

Looking to see if I have that song anywhere, but yeah.

I feel like that was a bigger thing in the 80s. There was a lot of people chasing airplanes from either the stair car or a police cruiser. I feel like that was many films, like the bad person was going to get away or something, and then it got down to like a police officer driving on the tarmac with their lights going.

Well, what was the movie that had an accompanying music video that had, I believe, Snoop Dogg in it, and certainly Dre? Soul Plane? Was it Soul Plane? I feel like maybe it's like, it might just be conflating things here, but there is a music video for a Dre song, and it might be Keep Their Heads Ringing or something like that, where it begins with a plane filled with partying hip-hop folks and police are chasing them on the tarmac because there's a really funny line where he says something like I can't remember exactly what it is

Somebody better get these MF cops off this MF plane

I really messed up that story, but that doesn't ring a bell to you What is the video for Keep Their Heads Ringing? I never even heard that song Oh, sure you have, I know you have You listen to more pop music than me But anyway, we can move on Anyway, happy Blur's Day, Joey Sorry about everything And finally, you mentioned...

It looks like it might be off of the Friday soundtrack.

That might be it. Would that make more sense? And does the video, does it begin? Can we hear the beginning of that video? Are you queuing it up over there?

First, I have to watch an ad about eating more avocado so that I will have really tight abs. Starring Dr. Drew.

You hold off on that. Okay, I'll tell you what. Hold off on that for a second. I have one more blur to say here, and it's an important one. Yep. You mentioned our dear friend Katie earlier. Yes. Indeed, today is, today, today, actual day of, is her Blurs Day, which is why our dear friend Liz writes in to say happy golden Blurs Day to our dear friend Katie, beloved by the Cobros, Eagles, and many, many others. Katie is the kind of person anyone would be lucky to know. In the past year, Katie has saved me from my cold, dark house during a big winter storm, and she's been there for me through a tough breakup. through our shared history nope sorry though our shared history takes us all the way back to third grade it's the time we've been able to reconnect and share as adults that i treasure the most happy blurs day katie from liz and you know what the ultimate gift is hearing the beginning of

no no liz uh not mentioning the fact that uh katie once did steal her keys that's right and And we had to go on an epic quest.

A drunken epic quest.

What are the chances that there will be swears in this answer? Oh, there are going to be swears. I don't think I know this song, dude. Really? And Friday's kind of a blind spot for me. You're very right about the plot of the video.

Wait, do you see an airplane at the beginning?

Well, basically what happens is there is, they're in, like, um, like the control tower sort of thing. Okay, yeah. So there's an airplane that's pulled up, like, you just see the back, I wonder if the budget- Oh, here it is. I mean, it would be crazy if Dr. Ray didn't have an almost unlimited budget for a video, but there, you just see the outline of an airplane next to the, like, the, the, the control tower, and then, uh, it kind of cuts to the people in the, in the command center analyzing something that- they're very nervous about and there's some line in this where somebody says that's an ambulance chasing us and he says that's not an ambulance that's the police i'm just going to play the

there is a scene where it looks like chris tucker is i think maybe in the cockpit of the airplane like he's supposedly flying the plane but again it's cut it's cut so weird like they clearly didn't have the budget for a real plane or like you know what i mean like they didn't shoot it on a plane it's kind of like it's a little but again which is crazy to me because we're talking about dre like this guy should have he should be able to put anything in his video he wants

let me um this is terror this is a terrible idea but we're near the end of the show in fact we're probably in overtime here we're probably an extra inning so let me just try playing the beginning sketch and again i have no idea what words we're going to hear in this but yeah we see the control tower we see yeah what up this is dr trey okay the people in the control tower are very surprised and they're looking around. Where is this Dr. Dre voice coming from?

The party's going on. Thank God it's Friday. Now. Oh, man. TGIF.

I think the line I'm thinking of that always made me laugh, because I do think it's Chris Tucker who says it and he delivers it. Oh, okay. I do know this. Yeah. Yeah. I knew you would. Iconic. I don't think. Yeah, I knew you would recognize that. It's so good. Anyway, there's a very funny line delivered by Chris Tucker in a very Chris Tucker-y way. So anyway, it happened somewhere else in the video, not at the beginning. All right. Are those the blurses? Did I end the show? Did I end the show perfectly? What a great dismount, as always. But how important is the dismount? Stop it. You stop it. You be nice to my friend Andrew, please, okay? I just feel like it's been a weird week for me. Oh, you know, do we want to go out with Joey's song? Would that be fun?

Absolutely, and I think we have the rights to it.

Yeah, exactly. Did Joey give us the rights? Here, let's just listen to a little bit of it, then I'll let you close out over top. Good thinking.

The right way to remember the wrong kind of night. The wrong way to fall in love until the morning light. Standing in the shadows after holding you tight. The right way to remember the wrong kind of night.

Let me just jump in here and say, I believe the origin of this is you said that line on the show, and you said that sounds like a good country-western song, and so then Joey recorded this. And then there's another version, which I guess I didn't grab the right one, that also has Brian playing pedal steel on it. And Dr. Dre. And Dr. Dre is saying, ring-a-ding-dong. That always made me think of Lily Tomlin, because she would always go, ring-a-ding, ring-a-ding, when she played her telephone operator.

Oh, yeah. On Laugh-In or something?

On Laugh-In. I'm the only person who associates that Dr. Dre song with Lily Tomlin's character laughing. I'm the guy, and I'm just shocked that he's white.

I'm confident that that is the case. All right. Well, listen, thank you, everybody, for spending this time with us. We are going to be back here tomorrow with more Imaginary Radio, and so we hope to see you there as well. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves. Keep they heads ringing. Please remember, no mountain too tall. Good luck to all.

Weathering the wind and rain to find nothing on the other side. Lost in your arms like the embrace of a storm. And waking in the morning to find your sails have all been torn. The right way to remember the wrong kind of night. The wrong way to fall in love till the morning light. standing in the shadow holding you tight the right way to remember the wrong power out