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#4423 Floor & Decor + The Machine
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

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from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

March 14, 2025 | 01:32:59 | Leisure, Comedy

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Andrew pitches Luke on an idea for a special episode of TBTL that he really wants to produce. They figure out if they can make it work. They also discuss the story of a jerk who went to Australia and snatched a baby wombat away from its mother. And we get a very detailed answer to a question about battery powered radios!
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00:00:00 - 00:00:55 | Speaker 2:

I, Chris Locke, do solemnly swear, to have and behold, to take and forever, forever and ever, thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory, through sickness unto and health, to have and to hold, the sun is forever, blasting. People are strange when you're a stranger, forever and ever, To thine is the kingdom O heavenly Lasting love The water is running Forever and ever Do I solemnly Take you Yes, I do T-B-T-M Guess what day it is Guess what day it is

00:00:55 - 00:01:11 | Speaker 5:

It's Friday Friday. Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. Are you taking my duplication investigation seriously? Or are you disrespecting my duplication investigation? Jumpman, jumpman. Them boys up to something. Uh-uh-uh.

00:01:12 - 00:01:19 | Speaker 2:

I think I need some Robitussin. We've got a basket full of bread, water, and now all we need is some great conversation.

00:01:19 - 00:01:55 | Speaker 4:

all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a friday edition of tbt all the show that just might be too beautiful to live may seem highfalutin but trust me you're gonna like art my name is luke burbank i am your host hello everyone coming to you from the madrona hill studio perched high above the mighty columbia where it's a pretty nice day it's not actively raining the river is is flat as a some kind of a large tanker of some kind transport vessel

00:01:55 - 00:02:04 | Speaker 1:

silently steams up the river oh ma pa it's just beautiful it is a beautiful friday as we arrive

00:02:04 - 00:02:57 | Speaker 4:

at episode 4 423 in a collector series let the fun begin i've been real hyped about the white lotus uh i've been having my questions about severance and now it's a new tv show that is taking up a lot of my attention and it's everybody's live with john mulaney i'll write it and we'll do it live it's live show on netflix it's they're gonna do i think they're doing it's either eight or twelve of them they're gonna be live every wednesday night and i think they're absolutely spectacular i think they whether or not they know it they are channeling the true spirit of this show too beautiful to live and uh and i think we should get some credit honestly i want to talk about that also we got another situation with a dingus american doing something in australia is a wonderful island doing something in australia

00:02:57 - 00:03:03 | Speaker 2:

with animals australians are just as unique both warm and direct and drawing the attention of the

00:03:03 - 00:03:25 | Speaker 4:

actual prime minister of australia people calling to have this person ejected from the country for something that they did uh we'll get into that as well and we're going to talk to this guy okay yes you know that he's the longest running cobro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships sure you also probably know um that uh he is a cuyahoga clam do you know though

00:03:25 - 00:03:36 | Speaker 1:

the origin of his vast wealth i sued the city because i was accidentally sewed into the pants of the big charlie brown at the thanksgiving day parade true story he's andrew walsh and he's

00:03:36 - 00:04:21 | Speaker 3:

joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. I'm scared how much I love wine. Yeah, I don't know if I got that line. We've all been talking about it. I don't know if I got that line. Oh, I believe you did, sir. I believe you did. It's true. I was sewed into the pants of a giant boy in the St. Patrick's Day parade. I'm sorry, no, the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. I guess it is. I can never keep my March dates right. You asked me today if Today's St. Patrick's Day. Here's the thing about March. Every date in March sounds like it's something. Yes. And I think it's because. Why is that? Well, I had two birthdays in March, one for Genevieve, and then one for another Genevieve, who I called Grandma Simpsick, who's no longer with us, but would be celebrating her birthday, I believe, in two weeks.

00:04:21 - 00:04:26 | Speaker 4:

I didn't know that your Grandma Simpsick's first name was the same as your beloved partner of many years.

00:04:26 - 00:04:29 | Speaker 3:

Yes, that's how I went to. Kind of weird. Yeah. Honestly.

00:04:30 - 00:04:33 | Speaker 4:

You didn't hear that name and immediately picture your grandmother and then just swerve?

00:04:34 - 00:04:40 | Speaker 3:

Well, I was on findavives.net. Plenty of Veeves?

00:04:43 - 00:04:57 | Speaker 4:

Now, if you were to put that in a show title, it could be misread as some other sort of reference. I love, I would go, well, that's not true. I'm very happily in a relationship, but I do think the idea of a website where this match you up with people in China has some potential.

00:04:57 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 3:

How did you do it? Um, so, um...

00:05:00 - 00:05:14 | Speaker 2:

There were those two significant dates. And then I guess St. Patrick's Day is always on the 17th. Is this right? Yes. Okay, I don't really observe it. Last time I tried to observe it is when you caught me almost punching on an Uber driver. First Avenue. By the way, not drunk.

00:05:14 - 00:05:15 | Speaker 1:

Minneapolis, Minnesota.

00:05:16 - 00:05:19 | Speaker 2:

Not drunk. Still well, well away from being drunk.

00:05:20 - 00:05:29 | Speaker 1:

And then think about this. This must have come up the kind of bookend of this experience. You started that night almost fighting someone, and I ended it almost fighting.

00:05:29 - 00:05:35 | Speaker 2:

Yes, and you were drunk by that point, though. Deeply so. Yes. Deeply and profoundly. I don't know what's worth there.

00:05:35 - 00:05:51 | Speaker 1:

I don't think I figured, I mean, we've talked about the story of you getting into with the Uber driver. We've talked many times of the story of me getting mad at somebody who I thought was disrespecting you by eating fries off of your plate. But I forgot the fact that the night started with you almost starting a fight and ended with me almost starting a fight.

00:05:51 - 00:05:59 | Speaker 2:

Well, it's also confusing because we ended the night at an iconic Polish bar and it was St. Patrick's Day, which is also just another wrinkle in that whole thing.

00:05:59 - 00:06:01 | Speaker 1:

Which I believe was Nyes Polonaise, right? That's right.

00:06:02 - 00:06:02 | Speaker 2:

Rest in peace.

00:06:02 - 00:06:07 | Speaker 1:

Which is the weirdest name for a, well, maybe not. I guess Polonaise, is that Polish or something?

00:06:07 - 00:06:20 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think we looked it up at the time. I think we've gone over all of this. Enough is enough. But yeah, so that's always on the 17th. The 14th just sounds like something to me. Doesn't March 14th sound like we should be celebrating something? Maybe it should be TBT all day.

00:06:21 - 00:06:45 | Speaker 1:

Yes. You know, I know the guy, or at least I met the guy, who decides on those silly made-up days. Yeah. Maybe I could reach out. Maybe I could back-channel him and see if we can get a TBTL day. That would be nice. Official hug your TBTL host day. Wait, that might get weird, too. But just, you know, like, yeah, official TBTL. Believe me, there are sillier ones on that little list that that guy maintains.

00:06:46 - 00:07:07 | Speaker 2:

The problem is when you extend out TBTL to the full name of the show, Too Beautiful to Live, and then you hear it out of context, like when we were thinking about putting Too Beautiful to Live on the back of Junior Sluggers jerseys, and we realize a bunch of little kids wearing shirts that say too beautiful to live is not actually the vibe. No. You've got to remember, oh shoot, we've got to explain.

00:07:07 - 00:07:15 | Speaker 1:

You've got to game it out. You've got to think about all the different places it might show up or people it might be associated with, and are those words in that order going to be weird?

00:07:16 - 00:07:18 | Speaker 2:

Is it too late to change the name of the show?

00:07:19 - 00:07:25 | Speaker 1:

I figure we give it, let's, at the 20-year mark, let's really consider it. Let's reassess. Let's reassess.

00:07:25 - 00:07:29 | Speaker 2:

Let's look at our download numbers and reassess on the 20th anniversary.

00:07:29 - 00:07:33 | Speaker 1:

At the 20th anniversary, let's consider changing the name to Giggle Squad.

00:07:35 - 00:07:47 | Speaker 2:

Hopefully we'll be back in the public domain. For the official Don Fingersfelder podcast. Both of those together. The man who brought the rock and roll edge to the Eagles. Can I have a somewhat serious conversation with you about TBTL programming? Yes.

00:07:48 - 00:07:50 | Speaker 1:

Is this something you'd like to do off-air?

00:07:50 - 00:08:19 | Speaker 2:

It was something I wanted to do off-air, but who has the time? Yeah, yeah, right. I saw you. I mean, it's all good. The only reason you might be detecting something in my voice is the hesitancy is here. If you really don't want to do this, I guess I'm putting you on the record as not wanting to do this. But, Luke, I really want to do an episode of TBTL as a tradeo episode. I want live callers. I want people saying, I got a snowblower. I want to get rid of it.

00:08:19 - 00:08:24 | Speaker 1:

I'm totally down to do this. Listen, and actually, you know what? This gets me into the thing I wanted to talk about, about this Mulaney show.

00:08:25 - 00:08:28 | Speaker 2:

That's one of the things that you mentioned, and I sort of started thinking about that.

00:08:28 - 00:09:02 | Speaker 1:

I would love to do this. Again, the only practical concern I have is that we are not located in a specific small town in the south on a radio station, which would then by definition mean the person with the snowblower, the person selling the snowblower, although the south is probably not snowblower country. The person selling the riding lawnmower is presumably geographically near the person who wants to buy the riding lawnmower. So that's just the only problem we have to solve is if we're taking calls, we'll likely be getting calls from different parts of the country. How would people be getting this stuff to the other person?

00:09:02 - 00:09:54 | Speaker 2:

Well, that's their problem. Okay. My concerns are global. Yes, they are. I studied under Gandhi. I've heard. No, I just think we make a really fun radio show or podcast, and people can figure out how to get something. I mean, we do have like hot spots where we have a lot of listeners. There might be somebody in the Midwest looking to, you know, a couple of people in the Twin Cities. Somebody's getting rid of something, and they say, email me here at my hotmail address if anybody's interested in buying this dresser. Pancake dad. But the only thing is it doesn't have to be that big. We always use the examples of a snowblower because I used to listen to Tradio radio in New Hampshire. And so you hear a lot of snowblowers. But for folks who don't know what we're talking about, here would be the format. Luke and I say, hey, listen, you got something you're trying to get rid of? You got something you're looking for?

00:09:54 - 00:09:54 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

00:09:55 - 00:09:57 | Speaker 2:

Call us at the TBTL hotline right now.

00:09:58 - 00:10:36 | Speaker 1:

Okay, I love this. Sorry. i'm sorry i'm so obsessed with the like getting of the thing to the other person but here's part of it if this could even be in some cases you're looking to give it away now let's say i'm looking to give away something and it's you know it's it's dollar value could be a hundred bucks if i went and tried to sell it but i'm going to give it away yeah it's a tbtl thing now if someone is going to pay twenty dollars to ship it to them they're still it's still a decent deal so i think what i'm i think i'm hung up on this idea of like you know who's going to ship a large item across the country but it's like also people are just want to kind of give away stuff like i've got something I've got something to say I've got something you might need and now somebody else might need it and then they can work out how to get it from point a to point b I hear what you're

00:10:36 - 00:10:56 | Speaker 2:

saying okay so let's roll play this out a little bit so we open the show this is our special we have to promote it in advance my big question is do we stream it live so yes and I think we have to do it on a Saturday morning just because of the tradeo tradition and we're doing it that makes it an extra maybe that makes it an extra episode in the in the feed that week as opposed to maybe

00:10:56 - 00:11:07 | Speaker 1:

just a regular episode of tbtl yeah um or we take a saturday morning you've got your stanley thermos of coffee people are tuning like a spring a saturday morning in the spring feels like when

00:11:07 - 00:11:55 | Speaker 2:

people are radio people are getting rid of stuff in the spring people are doing some spring cleaning and so yeah so we we open up the phone lines we you know we tell people what day and time it's going to be we stream it on youtube like we would during a tbtlathon or something we we figure that out that's on me i'll figure it out people stream things all the time luke don't worry about it i'll figure it out and then um sorry now i'm trying to figure out how we do stream okay uh but anyway so we open up the phone lines and then and then we say okay um and and the questions are what what are you looking what are you looking to get rid of or what are you looking to get and they say hey my name is i'll just use myself hey hey andrew here uh where are you calling from andrew i'm in the seattle area what do you what are you looking for well i i was uh cleaning out my attic luke and i came across uh the set of uh time machine choose your own adventure books nice so that's

00:11:55 - 00:11:59 | Speaker 1:

not what you're looking for that's what you're looking to get that so i'm willing to uh give

00:11:59 - 00:12:08 | Speaker 2:

that to any 10 who's interested in my uh time machine choose your own adventure books and then you ask me hey uh okay andrew in seattle are you willing to ship this or does it have to be local

00:12:08 - 00:12:20 | Speaker 1:

you had asked me that there you go hey andrew okay great uh these uh time machine books uh big big part of childhood uh are you uh could could somebody have those shipped to them or do they

00:12:20 - 00:12:27 | Speaker 2:

need to come pick them up from you how dare you ask me that question i was having a good saturday

00:12:27 - 00:12:46 | Speaker 1:

morning before you now here's the real question though when i'm asking them i love how like i love how locked up i am over this question of the shipping if i ask them if i ask you are you willing to ship or do they have to be local and come get it from you is that means are you saying there are people that wouldn't put it in the mail even if the other person were paying for it?

00:12:46 - 00:13:07 | Speaker 2:

I could see somebody saying, hey, listen, I'm in the Seattle area. I know there's a lot of tens in the Seattle area. I can't get involved with shipping. But we also don't have to get too much in the details. The most important thing for the listeners, and I'm talking to you listeners, and I'm not role-playing anymore. This is me, the real Andrew Walsh, not the fake Andrew Walsh who has those books. The guy's got those books that he's given him. God, I wish I still had those books. Actually, if anybody's got some time machine.

00:13:09 - 00:13:21 | Speaker 1:

Andrew's in the market for those books if you have them, and he is Willing to come to your house literally wherever you live. I might be there right now. The podcast is coming from inside the house.

00:13:21 - 00:14:13 | Speaker 2:

The big thing for the listeners, I don't think you and I really have to get too much. I think asking that question, are you willing to ship, is a good one. It gives us something to talk about. And it's also just a way to chat with the listeners for a sec. I think we want to keep it moving, though. I think we want to kind of take a call, stick to business, move on. I like the idea of having a purpose for these calls. But then the thing that the listeners need to think about is what contact information are you willing to give out publicly on the airwaves? So back in New Hampshire, people just give out their phone number or email address. Like, you can reach me. I'm at home most of the days after supper, you know, like whatever. What a cruel impression that was of a New Hampshireite. And they give out their phone number. Lots of times people in this day and age probably don't want to give that out. but you might want to give out the email address that you use for spam or when you're signing up for Instagram ads or whatever. Just know what contact information you're willing to put out there on a public podcast.

00:14:14 - 00:16:46 | Speaker 1:

I love it. I think it sounds really fun. I think we should do it this spring. Let's do it. Let's put something on the calendar. You're catching me at a good moment to agree to do extra work, Andrew, because I do love the idea of chopping it up with the listeners on the phones, which is a huge part of what i am loving about this live john mulaney show that they're doing on netflix you have not actually gotten eyes on this yet no i don't think i've heard of it well they did one so when there was the netflix netflix had this comedy festival in la a while ago where they they literally had i don't know if you've probably haven't seen the photos from that either but like because netflix is such a player now in the comedy space you know with all the Netflix specials and the shows they make and I think you should leave and they just really are yeah they're just like they kind of seem to be the main conduit through which a ton of comedy is now passing and so because of that they've got all these relationships and they did this they did a basically like an insane I think multi-week comedy festival in LA called I think it was called Netflix is a joke and the somebody hatched this idea oh because all these comedians and all these people are going to be in LA at the same time why don't we do a live show at 7 p.m. West Coast at exactly 7 p.m. west coast oh yeah and it was called everybody's in la with john mulaney yes you told me about this yes i think they did i don't know how many episodes of that i think they did six of those and i loved those a lot they i assumed they would not bring them back because they were they were very weird and very kind of loose and all the things that i like about television and radio that is most of it has gone away now you know like and so i was very very pleased to hear hear that they actually re-upped it for, again, I think it might be 12, it's either eight or 12 episodes. They're going to be doing it every Wednesday night. I would, at 7 o'clock, West Coast. First of all, the intro package is incredible. It's set to the Wang Chung song to live and die in LA. And it's like, Andrew, I swear to God, if you were to watch, let me see, can you do me a fave? I don't know if you were to, if you were to go online and just see if you can find of yet on the internet if you could see if if the uh everybody's live with john mulaney credits or intro just see if that if that's a thing that somebody has popped up on the internet somewhere because the i overuse this word and i also still don't really fully understand how to use it but the aesthetic of the intro is so spectacular i have something here that claims

00:16:46 - 00:17:02 | Speaker 2:

Seems to be the opening credits. Does it begin with a slow motion zoom in or push in on a car radio? Yep, exactly. All right, let's take a listen to this. Will you please? We're seeing kind of a voyeuristic shot. It just turned 7 p.m.

00:17:03 - 00:17:11 | Speaker 1:

And this credit, when it's playing, John Mulaney is standing off stage, waiting to be cute to go on stage because this is broadcasting live to the world.

00:17:12 - 00:17:38 | Speaker 2:

Reminds me sort of of almost a 90s. It's not in the film stock, but it's like showing a bunch of shots of people doing things around L.A. Yes. Doing magic. Well, no skateboarding yet, I assume. Yeah, this feels very classic. Jerry Seinfeld's on this one. We see people doing martial arts in studios, people riding their motorcycles down to sunset.

00:17:40 - 00:17:53 | Speaker 1:

Kratom. How do you say that? I don't. Kratom? Kratom? I can't say it, and I don't do it, Andrew. Just like, and then clocks turning to the number 7, like 7 p.m. Anyway.

00:17:54 - 00:17:55 | Speaker 2:

Ooh, St. Vincent.

00:17:56 - 00:18:54 | Speaker 1:

Oh, well, I think that's an old episode. I think that might have been from when they were doing the Netflix comedy special. But it's the same. You're getting the idea. You're getting the energy. Like, I'm clearly having a hard time describing it, but there's just something about it that reminds me. Oh, by the way, Richard Kind is the announcer. oh nice oh that is great yeah i'll just give you a little from the from this wednesday show um again so so one of the things that malaney said when it came out which i bet is kind of true is he was like this used to be called everyone's in la with john malaney they tested it people in the rest of america hate the word los angeles he goes and then we had the fires and i thought maybe people would change their body goes and they tested again no people don't like the word los angeles so now it's everybody's live with john malaney it was called everyone's in la with john right now it's everyone's live with john mulaney richard kind on the on the wednesday night he's just the classic announcer who is kind of slightly confused about what's

00:18:54 - 00:18:59 | Speaker 2:

going on because he sticks around he doesn't just do the script no he sticks around he's over at a

00:18:59 - 00:19:16 | Speaker 1:

little you know podium or lectern or whatever and it's that perfect dynamic of like you know john mulaney is cool calm collected he's he's got this great sense of humor it's very honed and then And Richard Kind is just kind of, you know, it's just this kind of affable nutcase.

00:19:16 - 00:19:17 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, just a little chaos.

00:19:17 - 00:20:05 | Speaker 1:

A little chaos, because you understand that, like, Richard Kind's humor is not exactly John Mulaney's humor. It's not the humor of even the demo who's watching this, but that kind of gives it this frisson that's just, like, perfect. Yeah. I keep saying last night, but technically it aired on Wednesday. But the Wednesday episode, after they get, they need to do something. They need a little piece of production to get Mulaney from where he's standing to do his monologue over to where his chair is. They don't have a house band. You know, that might be where the house band plays a number. In this case, it was Richard Kind doing birthdays. But at least three of them were people who've passed away. He's just like, and then it didn't really resolve as a bit. It was so great. It was like he was like wishing happy birthday to Al Jarreau. Then he was learning that Al Jarreau's not alive.

00:20:05 - 00:21:00 | Speaker 2:

I was thinking this notion hits me from time to time, and I think I did this back in 2015 when I was like free of my day job and just doing TBTL on a daily basis, and remember I came in pretty hot with like, well, let's do this every day. I'm pretty sure I could be wrong about this. I know we tried to do a dream segment where good listeners called it with their dreams. I'm pretty sure I tried to do celebrity birthdays for a while just because it's like I was listening to a lot of Kevin and Bean. It's just like classic local radio, like Celebrity Birthdays. And I was just thinking about that again the other day. Again, you and I are both attracted to this idea of, I think, live radio. Yes. And just like it doesn't even matter if the conceit is a little bit cheesy, like Celebrity Birthdays. There's something I love about it. It's so comforting tuning into the Kevin and Bean show back when it was on K-Rock and just hearing them, hearing Ralph Garman go through the Celebrity Birthdays. And then maybe you spend 15 to 30 seconds on each one and just move on.

00:21:00 - 00:22:41 | Speaker 1:

And by the way, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that one of the producers or writers of this show grew up listening to Kevin and Bean. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. And that lived in their head somewhere. And that's what's so great about this. It's like a pastiche of all of this stuff that I really like. How unhinged Letterman used to be, like early Letterman, you know. And then the theme. Okay, so they pick a theme. I'm a sucker for that, too. The theme of the Wednesday show was loaning people money. So the first two guests are a financial advice columnist from the San Francisco Chronicle and Beetlejuice. What's his name? Michael Keaton? Michael Keaton. Those are the first two guests. It's Michael Keaton and a financial advice columnist who most people would be unfamiliar with. Those are the first two guests. And then they just start taking calls from people. Obviously, the calls are very curated. You know, they found people who are good at talking, who have stories. I mean, they're not, this is not, this ain't Art Bell sitting in a trailer in Pahrump going east of the Rockies line. Like, you know, they're making sure that these people have interesting stories. But even so, Mulaney is working this phone. He's got like a, you know, a regular landline phone that's got buttons on it at his chair where he's sitting. And he's taking calls from people. And it's pretty clear that, again, I'm sure that he's been prepped on the broad strokes of what the call wants to talk about. But there certainly are points where, you know, Michael Keaton and the financial advice person and Mulaney are all kind of like are all just they're just winging it. They're just like taking a call like you would on a radio show in the olden days and then just responding to what the person says. And it's so delightful.

00:22:42 - 00:22:48 | Speaker 2:

So do you want to know one of the biggest disappointments of my life as a podcast listener?

00:22:48 - 00:22:52 | Speaker 1:

That your co-host couldn't remember the name Michael Keaton 45 seconds ago?

00:22:52 - 00:23:09 | Speaker 2:

Dude, you ever want to make me look good by remembering a celebrity's name? Because, I mean, obviously I love Batman. I love Michael Keaton. But when somebody asks me a question like that, I lock up. Well, you got there. I locked the F up. You saved me. And I didn't lock up. Thank you. Okay, you know what? You're welcome.

00:23:09 - 00:23:13 | Speaker 1:

Happy early St. Patrick's Day. That's my gift to you.

00:23:13 - 00:23:32 | Speaker 2:

I was a John Mulaney to your richer kind. Oh, thank you. Happy birthday, Al Jarreau. I was just so smooth. No. Thank you for that. So the Andy Richters of the world, right? Andy Richter. There's only one. And his name is Andy Richter. And I'm pretty sure nobody really likes him, so I can say whatever I want, right? He's not, like, beloved or anything, right?

00:23:32 - 00:23:34 | Speaker 1:

Certainly by the kind of people that like our show.

00:23:34 - 00:23:39 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. So if I were just to, like, be kind of savage and take him down a notch or two, everybody would be cool with that.

00:23:39 - 00:23:47 | Speaker 1:

chance he'd clap back at you online because as we established during that's right yeah he's he's a catty little bitch from new jersey who lives for the drama you were doing something with him weren't

00:23:47 - 00:23:57 | Speaker 2:

you because we came we've pretty seriously for us considered maybe seeing if we could get him on the show to talk about like sidekicking or whatever and then i sort of thought like the premise might

00:23:57 - 00:24:48 | Speaker 1:

be a little insulting we had him on live wire a long time ago and it was a it was a funny thing because um you know i'm obviously like a conan the you know conan's uh original show on nbc the late night one with andy richter was like my comedy you know madrasa like i just like was obsessed i watch that show every single night of my life and it really shaped how i think about what is funny um and so i was very excited that we were going to have andy richter on and i think our other guest was ken jennings who at the time was not the host of jeopardy he was just a guy who had done really well on jeopardy and we had a con not a contest we did some kind of an activated bit on stage where we had this very fancy food thing in portland make these little dishes for them and they were eating them for some reason and i remember the the owner of the thing was in the audience and andy richter was looking at this real high-end portland food and he said this looks like

00:24:48 - 00:24:55 | Speaker 2:

two farts on a plate that's right god bless and and then from that from that andy richter and ken

00:24:55 - 00:24:59 | Speaker 1:

Jennings became, I think, deep abiding friends. From there on out I would see

00:25:00 - 00:25:20 | Speaker 2:

them at like mariner games together online and where's my invite exactly i was very happy that they were able to make a connection but i was sad that i was not this was not a thruple this was this was uh just uh andy richter and ken jennings being being real buds after that so all that is to say that's my one time of meeting him that i remember okay obviously andy richter is a wonderful

00:25:20 - 00:25:30 | Speaker 3:

person i do remember a while back like kind of maybe in the maybe the height of the podcast kind of bubble when everything was everybody had a podcast i do remember him saying i mean i

00:25:30 - 00:25:38 | Speaker 1:

understand how people can love podcasts i just never they've never fit into my into my day i

00:25:38 - 00:25:55 | Speaker 3:

just have never gotten into the habit and that's not him joking around it's just some interview about how he's not into podcasts and then of course what happens is he has a podcast he has a couple of podcasts right because everybody's like oh well we are living in the midst of a podcast boom we have to have podcasts to live these days so andy richter has three questions

00:25:55 - 00:25:59 | Speaker 2:

with Andy Richter. These farts on a plate aren't going to pay for themselves. That was the name of

00:25:59 - 00:26:19 | Speaker 3:

his third podcast. His second podcast though was called the Andy Richter call-in show and he went on another podcast. I'm assuming it was Comedy Bang Bang. I don't know but I'm listening to Andy Richter and he's saying yeah so I have a new podcast out and it's called it's a call-in show and I'm just like yes like let's get messy. Let's do live calls. Kind of like what Chris Gethard

00:26:19 - 00:26:20 | Speaker 2:

does. Right

00:26:20 - 00:26:48 | Speaker 3:

only in podcast form unless I don't know if Gethard does that in podcast form as well. podcast where people just call him oh right right right um i was also thinking of his cable stuff but anyway um the point with the richter thing is i was like oh that sounds amazing but then immediately i was deflated because he mentions like in a in another sentence or two that like no no these aren't like actual live calls these are people who call in leave a voicemail then we'll call them back which i know there's a proud tradition of that that's how car talk did it that's

00:26:48 - 00:26:54 | Speaker 2:

how like a lot of like call-in shows do it npr shows are are honestly andrew they're they're

00:26:54 - 00:27:18 | Speaker 3:

afraid they can't handle the smoke there's no chaos yeah and i was just like no andy just like just do it live or or don't even even if you don't want to release it live even if you don't want to stream it like you grow a pair you can just tell people call between these hours we'll be recording we'll be taking them live and if anything goes really off the rails you can cut it out if we do tradeo like we'll be streaming that live so we but i mean be open to a little

00:27:18 - 00:27:33 | Speaker 2:

bit of chaos i mean it's a especially considering cast it's not andy richter yeah you you you you had i the second time i've referenced this in like three weeks but like you had a recurring character like masturbating bear that used to just come out and do stuff on the conan show you should

00:27:33 - 00:27:55 | Speaker 3:

be comfortable with the unknown yeah and i don't think that was probably him i'm sure because he's somebody who isn't who doesn't come up through radio the way we do and i'm sure i'll don't even i don't even know if it was his idea i'm sure somebody said hey you should have another you should have another podcast you know like who knows who's advising people these days and somebody probably said yeah we'll produce it don't worry you'll have 18 producers and we'll have a voicemail

00:27:55 - 00:28:56 | Speaker 2:

well of course yeah he probably i i i only learned about this show 45 seconds ago but i've got theories burn it to the ground which is no which is i'm sure like i bet you andy richter himself because he is uh he's an avuncular affable fellow and i bet you he's very comfortable More comfortable than I am with moments being a little awkward I bet you he or somebody close to him thought Oh, you'd be great at like just taking phone calls You can kind of roll, you can hang And then somebody with a big radio brain got in there and said Yes, but let's make sure Like some producer got signed on Somebody who had recently departed KCRW Got, you know, signed on to produce the show To produce the podcast And they were like, okay, here's what we're going to do We're going to have them call in and leave their message Then we're going to have a producer call them back and pre-screen them And then we're going to kind of work out what the what the shape of their call is. And then we're going to have them call you that way. We're just going to get the premium shit. And it's like that's what public radio does to everything. And in a lot of cases makes it worse, in my opinion, or at least less, less, less dynamic.

00:28:56 - 00:29:46 | Speaker 3:

Let me clean up my setup of his show for a second here, because he does have one podcast. And that's the three questions. This one, I forgot. It's not actually a podcast, which I don't know if that changes. it doesn't change my opinion on things although it may change some of the the reality of these things that's right it's a Sirius XM show that's why I thought it was actually going to be live because yeah one thing I've been impressed with with Sirius XM is it weirdly Sirius XM almost brings more of the sort of things I liked about local radio to the forefront like it's I really thought when we kind of did a trial membership and decided to extend it like it was going to be I don't know are these just like extended playlists like is Sirius XM is the majority of that basically just like me choosing an algorithm on Spotify and keeping me entertained is it just like getting

00:29:46 - 00:29:52 | Speaker 2:

the lead out right and then just epic Led Zeppelin playlist with like occasionally a canned guy

00:29:52 - 00:30:00 | Speaker 3:

coming and going that was houses of the holy that's right exactly but no like what the the thing that is the most valuable about satellite radio

00:30:00 - 00:30:10 | Speaker 1:

is on the various shows I listen to you know even music programming it's like people like really and I don't know if this is the case for the newer stuff You mean Busted Open with Dave LaGreca? I don't mean that

00:30:10 - 00:30:14 | Speaker 2:

The number one wrestling podcast or the number one wrestling show on Sirius Satellite

00:30:14 - 00:31:29 | Speaker 1:

But I'm impressed the way that like the audio I'm sorry the music shows are really curated and they'll find somebody with a personality whether or not I like their personality is kind of beside the point but they'll talk about the music and why they you know what I mean why they chose the song I love that So I hear that Andy Richter is doing a call-in show on a radio platform. I'm like, oh, this is great. And again, this still sounds good. I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but when you listen to it, it's just a little bit more kind of curated and clean than I was hoping. It says each week on the Andy Richter call-in show, Andy invites callers to weigh in on questions such as, have you ever seen a ghost? What's the worst job you've ever had? And who was your first crush? And then he's always got a comedian guest like Andy Daly or Nicole Byer. You know, and I'm just reading off the kind of PR thing here. But like, you know, say 2024 puts Andy Richter squarely back in the driver's seat. The man who brought the rock and roll edge to the Conan O'Brien show. Andy Richter. The man who brought the rock and roll edge to the Eagles. So this mostly sounds like, oh, this is a comedian podcast with one little element that's different, which is we have some pre-screened callers, you know, and it just I want things to be a little bit more wild. like you were talking about with Mulaney and our new Tradio Empire.

00:31:29 - 00:31:44 | Speaker 2:

The other guests, if I can, and our new, I mean, this would get us away from the idea of which would be to talk to the tens. That's actually the fun part. I wonder if we could get somebody at Sirius to let us jump on and just do a Tradio episode on Sirius. They've got a lot of time to fill over there.

00:31:45 - 00:32:42 | Speaker 1:

You know, every time, and I know that Bean, our friend Bean of Cup of Tea and a Chat fame, has been tuning into the show from time to time, so I don't know if he'll hear this or not, But one thing that I always notice is if I'm texting with him and we're like talking about one thing and then I ask him if he wants to be on the show, like that part of the text is just not addressed. And I'm starting to like realize maybe I need to stop asking. But he sent me a clip of some tradeo that he loved the other day and he was talking about it in his show. And then I don't know if you were on the same text chain and I said, yes, I really am serious about putting one of these together for TBTL. Let me know if you'd like to collaborate. And I don't know if you have the cricket sound effect there, but I took it to me. That would be difficult with him maybe overseas, and it would really add to your anxiety about people getting things where they need to be, considering he's in England. But I did wonder if there's somebody we want to partner with with our Tradio radio or if that brings too many voices to the mix.

00:32:42 - 00:32:46 | Speaker 2:

I'm just upset that I have apparently misplaced my cricket sound effect.

00:32:46 - 00:32:48 | Speaker 1:

Oh, no. How are we going to do the show?

00:32:48 - 00:32:53 | Speaker 2:

How are you going to fill the many kind of awkward? All right, there we have found it.

00:32:53 - 00:32:56 | Speaker 1:

God, things are back to normal. Anyway, I didn't mean to throw Bean under the bus.

00:32:56 - 00:33:01 | Speaker 2:

Hey, Andrew, can I ask you about one of our signature Friday benchmarks?

00:33:02 - 00:33:06 | Speaker 1:

Does it involve Andy Richter talking about podcasts? No, it's more about the weekend.

00:33:06 - 00:33:09 | Speaker 2:

Oh, about the weekend? Hey, you got big weekend plans?

00:33:09 - 00:35:07 | Speaker 1:

Big weekend. The biggest one I've ever had. Big weekend. I don't like podcasts. I know a lot of people like them. That was my Andy Richter over top of it. Not your worst. Not my best. No big weekend plans. Which is your favorite kind, right? Yeah, I am kind of looking forward to that. Although I do have a project, I guess. So I'm recording with Hannah, Spotless Pod, coming out on Monday. Oh, nice. But when I'm done with that on Saturday, Veeves and I have the first little kind of collaborative house project that we've had to do in a while, which is it's a half measure. And I always feel weird about half measures. But I think it's going to be a good temporary improvement to our living space, which is this. We have some pretty old, like pretty ugly vinyl flooring in our kitchen. You know, it was like white country-ish, whatever, like kind of that soft linoleum. And it's, you know, just it's definitely seen better days anyway. It wasn't installed the best, as we noticed when we pulled out the oven and stove and had that replaced. So when we did have our oven replaced, the people who were installing it rolled out our refrigerator, which is on those tiny little wheels, and then that ruined the floor even more. So we're, like, looking down, like, the linoleum's kind of torn up in this one place. So Vives and I picked some relatively inexpensive, although not the cheapest of the cheap, kind of that stick-on floor. And the look of it should be way better. I'm really curious to see how sturdy they are, how well they stay down. So we're going to temporarily put these tile stickies down. It's going to have a very different look. And then hopefully someday replace the actual floor and get some. real flooring in there what is your experience with these things and like six months down the road am i going to be is it going to be like peeling wallpaper no i think that they actually

00:35:07 - 00:35:51 | Speaker 2:

make them pretty pretty decent these days uh carrie and i put some of those down there were we had there were two bathrooms in the basement of the burbank springs broadcast center and they both had like really kind of crummy vinyl floor uh floor when we bought the place but we also were like completely out of money from fixing the upstairs up so it's like what can we do and we put those down now if i remember right the basement flooded maybe two more times so i think they got they also got a little as long as your kitchen isn't flooding on the reg i think that they should be just fine um and uh and again i think that they make them they make them pretty durable now now are you getting uh some kind of a an interesting pattern yeah i'm excited about that i picked i

00:35:52 - 00:36:02 | Speaker 1:

Argyle, like the socks? It's Argyle, exactly right. It's how we're going to celebrate St. Patrick's Day. Argyle, brah. Because that's a classic.

00:36:02 - 00:36:04 | Speaker 2:

What's the pattern?

00:36:04 - 00:36:23 | Speaker 1:

I don't know how to describe it, but it's going to be white and black, kind of classic, like kind of, you know, probably 1950s. I don't think it's checkerboard. Honestly, I picked them out, or we picked them out. Genevieve was like, how do you always pick out the most expensive things? I just so I remember like really liking it and being like well that's the one that's clearly

00:36:23 - 00:36:28 | Speaker 2:

the one online or did you go to a floor and decor type situation Genevieve went to floor and decor

00:36:28 - 00:36:34 | Speaker 1:

and they had no idea what she was talking about and we're like it's in your name are you I live

00:36:34 - 00:36:40 | Speaker 2:

at the floor and decor in Portland that's like my love my that's my happy place really hey Genevieve

00:36:40 - 00:36:51 | Speaker 1:

if you can hear me can you come in here for a second Luke's asking questions I can't answer I can't remember exactly what the pattern is, but I do remember being very excited about it in the moment. Oh, I'm excited for this. And we're going to do that this weekend.

00:36:51 - 00:37:03 | Speaker 2:

I think this is going to be a really, really high reward for a low kind of impact project in terms of like, you can knock this out in an afternoon and it's going to make your whole kitchen experience feel really different.

00:37:03 - 00:38:36 | Speaker 1:

Can I say something else that is a good observation, I feel like, on my part, although it does bring up my health conditions again. But I've got to say one thing that makes me feel really good about this is I thought when we were ordering this tile several months ago or whatever you want to call it, are we calling it tile? We're calling it tile. Yeah, why not? Flooring when we were ordering it. Decoring. Decoring. We were – Show some decoring, sir. I'm a good sir at long last. I'm a decorable. Baskin of decorables. But I remember when we were picking it out, I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's exciting. But I thought that I was as good as I was going to feel at that point with my rheumatoid arthritis because I'd already been on the medicine for a while. But still having this voice in the back of my head like, oh, when Project Day comes along, how am I even going to get into that stooping position, right? And I was like, well, but that's okay. I'll get through it. I'm aging, and this is something I'm dealing with. I didn't realize how much better I was going to be feeling just a mere few months later. So now I was looking down at the floor this morning as I accidentally spilled coffee on it. And I was like, oh. And you were like, I'm not even going to clean that up. I'm not going to clean up. Was it in the kitchen? Then I took a big dump on it. Yes. Why not? Dude, get your money's worth. Exactly. Then Genevieve slipped. Oh, God. Why? No, but I was looking down at the kitchen floor. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm totally ready to do this tomorrow. Like, I'm still an old man. I'm not, like, in super, super stretchy shape or anything like that. But get myself a kneeling pillow. Get myself some of those box cutters, I assume, will cut through this stuff okay. Line it up right. I guess we got to do under the refrigerator first, right? You start under the stove and under the refrigerator, then push them back.

00:38:36 - 00:40:22 | Speaker 2:

I mean, I'm by no means an expert on this, but I have watched skilled tradespeople who I've been paying do it. And the big thing with any, even this, this, the good news with this is because it's stick-on, you're never going to be that, like, screwed. Like, when you're, like, putting tile tile down and you're doing, like, you know, grout and mortar and everything, the whole thing is you have to really, really start off correctly. Yes. Because it sort of radiates out. A small error, this is where you're, like, real kind of, like, what's the, what's the, I don't want to over-describe it, but, like, you're kind of, you have attention to detail around this kind of stuff. up sure and as does genevieve yeah that's where this will really come in handy because you just like if you get the if you get the initial course of the tiles in properly and squared and everything which might be a little tricky because you guys have an older house so yeah probably like a lot of stuff is probably not technically square like if you did if you hired someone to come over and actually lay tile tile they'd probably do what my guy did which was he just kept walking around like showing me things with a level that i didn't even understand what it meant he's like you gotta you gotta see this and then he'd like he'd he'd go out and he'd smoke a cigarette that he'd come back in that he would get his level then he'd put it down he'd go i mean i i don't know i don't know and then i'd go well is it can you put tile there and he'd go and then he'd go out and smoke another cigarette then you'd come back in it looks great by the way i i don't understand what was going on is your guys' house is an older house, so probably a little bit of the same stuff applies. But all that is to say, anybody who knows this stuff will tell you, just make sure that you start out properly. And there's a million YouTube videos about this that you can watch. So I'm really excited for you with this, because again, that's such a like, it's like painting your kitchen cabinets or something. It's a thing that is not really like heavy duty infrastructure of the house,

00:40:22 - 00:41:38 | Speaker 1:

but it really will change your experience. So this is a quick tangent. You were talking about your um your downstairs in your old house in bellingham and um do you are you familiar with the new yorker cartoonist i want to say um yeah here it is ellis rosen are you familiar with ellis rosen i think you'd be familiar with their style and there is a cartoon that ellis rosen made a while back that sometimes pops up on social media and i think of you and that exact basement you were just describing um a lot because it's a it's a cartoon that says your friends shower i would love to use this as a show pic but obviously that would be a violation of their of their art but it says your friend shower and then it just has the most absurd looking set of controls it says cold warm yeah you're there okay good warm cold and then question mark in between them blazing fire a button that says do not push some sort of weird three handled things for some reason it says attempts left and like i remember your shower downstairs yeah there was your shower in that bathroom downstairs i slept in that bedroom one time oh was the most confusing it i still think i would still be down there probably trying to figure it out if genevieve hadn't pulled me away

00:41:38 - 00:42:34 | Speaker 2:

first of all uh this is for sale at the conde nast store and this would be a funny thing to frame and put in your bathroom yes it would yeah it'd be a really nice little piece of bathroom art um i i can't remember who it was who said this but there was a comedian years ago who said that they approach every shower in a hotel room like a wild stallion they're trying to break right you know yeah might have been alice wetterland but um i always thought that was a pretty funny line and the reason dude i think i lived at that house for two years before i figured out how to use that shower i think i lived downstairs as the marriage was crumbling and didn't know how to operate the shower you had to you know the the the the the faucet the part that fill let's say you're gonna take a bath right yeah and and you turn the hot water on and it's coming out of the faucet into the bathtub yeah the way you activated the shower was there was a tiny invisible ring at the mouth of the faucet oh you had to push it you pull it down pull it down oh

00:42:34 - 00:42:49 | Speaker 1:

sure of course obviously dude your friend's shower it's right there in the name and you're standing there in a vulnerable position i don't know like what i was dressed in but there's a good chance that you haven't thought it out like oh of course i might need a tool belt and a hard

00:42:49 - 00:43:53 | Speaker 2:

hat before i start it's the least intuitive thing i've ever like i've never seen and i've literally never experienced another shower in the world and i've traveled far and wide that operates along this principle that you have to pull down again it's not even marked it's just like imagine just grabbing the mouth of the of the faucet where the water is streaming out and then just pulling down on something that's indistinct from everything else and then in the act of doing that it somehow then sends the water back up to the shower yeah you know shower nozzle totally and completely counterintuitive um i will say that the the the good the good news is that that basement does not flood anymore because long after i was gone carrie went through with a project an expensive project of re-cement, having new concrete poured around certain parts of the house. Oh, wow. A move that I would have definitely said it was a terrible idea. It would have been like, this has nothing to do with the water that's getting in to the house, through the basement, into the basement. And it totally fixed the problem.

00:43:53 - 00:43:57 | Speaker 1:

Oh, really? But yeah, when you mess with foundation stuff, though, that gets...

00:43:57 - 00:44:51 | Speaker 2:

Well, it's not the foundation. It's the things around. Like, there were basically a lot of planters and cracks in the concrete. things that were areas where water could get in what was throwing me off was why is this where i'm going with this it's just another story about how many more about the marriage crumbling my instincts are wrong well it was a long it was a long year down in that basement andrew what with not knowing how the shower worked a long stinky year that's right um but uh uh be like the the water seemed like it was coming in from one part one corner of the basement when it would flood when there would be a lot of rain and stuff and these things that eventually got fixed were totally on the other side of the house but apparently there's something where water was running up against the side of the house and going in somewhere and now it's shunted away and so everything is going just fine there and the moral of the story is I should never ever trust my instincts on on what the issue is around water intrusion etc because I was loud wrong on that so

00:44:51 - 00:45:41 | Speaker 1:

I am texting Genevieve right now who is either who either can't hear me or is ignoring my pleas to join the show a la being back baxter um yeah so uh i have a theory i have a theory that there's not enough and this i would actually love if genevieve's the one that's both floored and decorred i would love to talk to her about this because i spend oh so much time there less now because this bathroom is done but there was a period of time where i was because all of the new floor for the main you know living room area of the house the tile for the uh bathroom the subway tile for the bathroom all of this involved multiple trips to floor and decor and my theory is they don't sell the stick down tiles because if people knew that this was an option they would go oh i'm just gonna do that right well also it's not enough profit margin for them genevieve also said that there's just a lot of

00:45:41 - 00:46:23 | Speaker 2:

confusion though she said like nobody knew what i was even talking about that's weird because different that's yeah i mean come on it's you should know about flooring even if you don't carry it you know by the way i do think i remember what it looked can i just say this while i'm thinking of it please i think it's like a white tile okay with like small black accents but i think that the black accents are little like quarter moons in the corner of each one so that when you lay it down yes it might make a small little circle but i know that it's not too loud i didn't want a pattern that was going to be like too busy you know what i mean so yeah i think it's going to be like a night i think it i think the little four corners come together to create a little circle that will sort of accent the white flooring.

00:46:23 - 00:47:35 | Speaker 1:

That's my memory of it. That's really cool. And that will also guide you, right? Because you'll have to make sure that obviously the little moons are all lining up to do the thing that they're supposed to do. But I think that's going to look really cool. I do think that probably floor and decor is like they don't make very much money on those things versus like the regular. Although, to be honest with you, a lot of the regular tile is not, like, prohibitively expensive. The expense is putting it in. The actual tile itself is, you know, it is what it is. But, yeah, that's really odd. Also, I wonder if these are franchised. The one that's near me, the people really know their stuff, actually. It's kind of a cool place because what I've noticed is, and this is just not the typical, you know, it's Portland, but it's the edge of Portland where the one that I go to is. In other words, it's almost Vancouver, Washington. And one of the things I like about it is the folks that work there really know their stuff. They're also – they appear to be from a really wide background in terms of age, in terms of, like, gender identity. Like, it's clearly a place where somebody in management was really welcoming to folks that might be non-binary or whatever. You know what I mean? It's just like it feels like a cool place that's full of a bunch of different folks that work there that are friendly.

00:47:35 - 00:47:36 | Speaker 2:

And have interest in the topic.

00:47:37 - 00:48:02 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, they know – well, you know, is it their, like, life's, you know, passion? I don't know, but they're very helpful, and they definitely know a lot more about it than I do. And I like that about the place. I wonder if it's really, like, location by location, you know, like, depending on who owns the particular one that you're going to. I don't know if it's – I do know that, you know, Becca, in her capacity with her job, was at the grand opening of that floor and decor.

00:48:02 - 00:48:05 | Speaker 2:

How recent was that? Because the one up here is very new.

00:48:05 - 00:48:19 | Speaker 1:

The one up here is, like, two years old or something. Okay. It's pretty new. And she had to bring the big scissors. Oh. And she said – this is what you don't realize about the big scissors. is they don't really cut anything. Oh, that's right, because she works for the business community.

00:48:20 - 00:48:27 | Speaker 2:

The Portland Chamber. Oh, so she has access to the big scissors? Oh, she is the keeper of the big scissors. Jeez Louise, I'm learning this now.

00:48:27 - 00:48:30 | Speaker 1:

With great scissors comes great responsibility.

00:48:30 - 00:48:33 | Speaker 2:

Oh, Luke, we need to get our hands on those scissors, my dude. Come on.

00:48:33 - 00:48:43 | Speaker 1:

I believe you can. I believe you were very close to those scissors and didn't even know it when we were having a top secret TBTL strategy session before we had left APM.

00:48:43 - 00:48:49 | Speaker 2:

I sensed something. We would still be with APM because the whole weekend would have been just me chasing you and John around with giant scissors.

00:48:50 - 00:49:04 | Speaker 1:

Here's the thing with the big scissors. They don't actually cut anything. So you have to pre-cut the ribbon and then lightly tape it together in the back. And then two people have to know to pull the ribbon when the person is big-scissoring it because otherwise it won't actually cut the ribbon.

00:49:04 - 00:49:12 | Speaker 2:

That is the lamest thing I've ever heard in my life. This and Andy Richter not taking live phone calls are the two biggest disappointments of my life right now.

00:49:13 - 00:49:14 | Speaker 1:

Andrew, today is the day you become a man.

00:49:15 - 00:49:22 | Speaker 2:

If I were to tell you I want to name the show today Floor and Decor and the Machine, would you get it? Oh, I would love it. Okay, good.

00:49:22 - 00:49:25 | Speaker 1:

But it has to be Floor plus Decor plus the Machine.

00:49:25 - 00:49:27 | Speaker 2:

Well, I thought that, too. I was looking it up, but it is not.

00:49:27 - 00:49:28 | Speaker 1:

Isn't she Florence plus the Machine?

00:49:28 - 00:49:44 | Speaker 2:

That's what I, are we Berenstein Baron? Oh, no. Burying this? Because, okay, some early stuff is Florence plus the Machine. Like Florence Machine said, the dog days are over. but everywhere else I see it it's either oh okay now here it is a stylized plus

00:49:44 - 00:49:46 | Speaker 1:

a sword machine says the dog days are over

00:49:46 - 00:49:55 | Speaker 2:

okay good thank you for that because I thought that so floor plus decor plus the machine I love it oh that's really good

00:49:55 - 00:49:59 | Speaker 1:

we was hoping for some razzle dazzle razzle dazzle that's right

00:50:00 - 00:50:07 | Speaker 3:

man razzle dazzle on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go everybody razzle

00:50:07 - 00:50:14 | Speaker 1:

all right andrew uh could i actually activate my own theme song for today real quick if you

00:50:14 - 00:50:25 | Speaker 4:

wouldn't mind and it's i'm sorry so sorry let me take you back to an earlier simpler time andrew

00:50:25 - 00:50:27 | Speaker 1:

called Wednesday. Wednesday.

00:50:28 - 00:50:30 | Speaker 2:

I remember it like it was two days ago.

00:50:30 - 00:50:53 | Speaker 1:

Yep. And, well, we were reading a dazzling donor message, and we were talking about a podcast about the Olympics called Keep the Flame Alive. And that podcast, of course, was brought to us by our friend and is brought to us by our friend Jill, Andrew. I always tell you this, Jill in Lakewood, Ohio.

00:50:53 - 00:50:55 | Speaker 2:

What about Jill Jarris living in Lakewood where I used to live?

00:50:55 - 00:51:10 | Speaker 1:

That's exactly the Jill that I'm talking about. It's an Olympics and Paralympics podcast, and you can find it at flamealivepod.com. Now, do you remember after the show on Wednesday when we realized that I had read the wrong web URL for the podcast?

00:51:11 - 00:51:45 | Speaker 2:

Yes. As we were reading it off of the page, we realized that the link did not work, and it was because a critical letter was left out of it. I'm not going to reiterate what the bad version was, what the wrong one was, but a letter was missing. And so we corrected it the next day and reiterated the name of the show is Keep the Flame Alive. And you can find it at flamealivepod, one word, dot com. Do you remember Thursday, Andrew? Do you remember the day that comes after Wednesday? I do. Weirdly, it's more fuzzy than Wednesday, but I do remember.

00:51:45 - 00:52:02 | Speaker 1:

So we endeavored, I endeavored to correct the record on Thursday because I had read the wrong website. And then on Thursday, I had the website correct, but I had the name of the person who co-hosts or hosts the podcast incorrect.

00:52:03 - 00:52:04 | Speaker 4:

I'm sorry.

00:52:05 - 00:52:07 | Speaker 1:

I think I was crediting someone named Lisa.

00:52:08 - 00:52:29 | Speaker 2:

Because now here's what I'm confused about, though. And I shouldn't bring this up because it might confuse things even more. The reason we were also talking about Jill yesterday wasn't just to make that correction, but it was because Jill had sent in one of the top stories that we were talking about, right? Or was it Lisa who sent in that top story?

00:52:29 - 00:52:52 | Speaker 1:

I think it was maybe a Lisa. I think a Lisa sent in the top story, and I transposed these names. I combined these names. I made a grievous error. and so I was I think that the story about the bad baseball caps. Yeah, I'm going to look this up. About the tetas. Yeah. I think that that might have been sent to us by a Lisa. No, it was not. It was

00:52:52 - 00:52:54 | Speaker 2:

sent to us by Jill. It's the same person.

00:52:55 - 00:52:56 | Speaker 1:

So I just fully, so I was. You saw the I

00:52:56 - 00:53:00 | Speaker 2:

as a second letter and you went from there and you're like J's are close to L's in the alphabet.

00:53:00 - 00:53:47 | Speaker 1:

Thank you. You know how my brain works. Anyway, Jill thank you for your donation and also everyone go check out Jill's I mean, this has honestly been a boon for Jill. Yes. And to a lesser degree for Lisa out there, whoever that is. But, yeah, Jill's podcast has now been mentioned way more than it would have been otherwise if I would have just handled all this like a professional from the first moment. So, anyway, that's officially, I believe, who is it? TBTL employee numero uno, John Sklaroff, yesterday he said, are you trolling me? Yeah, right. Because on Wednesday, you would ask him, hey, can you look into this? and then we had figured it out and then by Thursday I was butchering it in a new and novel way and I didn't even realize it at the time until John listened to the show and was like are you just are you like just trying to make my job harder here

00:53:47 - 00:53:54 | Speaker 2:

so all of this is to say as we close the book on that particular dazzling donor message from two days ago thank you Linda

00:53:54 - 00:53:59 | Speaker 1:

and also Maestro

00:53:59 - 00:54:04 | Speaker 3:

on your mark on your mark get set get set now ready ready go

00:54:04 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 1:

Also, we want to thank today's Dazzling Donors. This is how this works. We have a lot of folks, thankfully, amazingly, who are donating a dazzling amount of dough. And those donations added up are something that makes it possible for this to be our job. Like, three people, you, me, and John, this is our actual full-time job doing this, amazingly. And it's thanks to folks like Jim Okbina, Like octopus, Jim says. Yes, yes. Yeah, I should pre-read these. Jim Okbina, who's in New York, New York. Whoa, they named it twice. Hold on there. Hold on there. New York City. Jim says, hello, imaginary friendos. This year, as always, I want to dedicate my dazzling donor message to Smiley, my French bull...

00:55:00 - 00:55:15 | Speaker 2:

Bulldog, who is celebrating his 11th trip around the sun this March. I think tomorrow, by the way. We were asked to read this as close to the 15th as possible. So I'm guessing that tomorrow is Smiley's birthday. What a great name for a Bulldog, too.

00:55:15 - 00:56:08 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely. Like TBTL, he brings joy, and my partner Chris and I are grateful that he's in our lives. I also want to shout out to the Road Dogs Rescue, an organization that rehabilitates and rescues Bulldogs. and other lovable lemons of the dog world that's what they say on their website we rescue the so great i love it oh my god that's so cute um check them out at flame alive pod no check them out anytime i can get a genuine laugh out of andrew w at road wait now hold on Now, Andrew, I'm very, I have to admit, I'm very, I'm traumatized, I'm triggered, I'm slimy, I'm grimy, I need a shower, because here's the thing, check them out at, I mean, Road Dogs.

00:56:09 - 00:56:11 | Speaker 2:

On Instagram, at Road Dogs on Instagram.

00:56:11 - 00:56:13 | Speaker 1:

But is there just one D in that?

00:56:13 - 00:56:17 | Speaker 2:

Oh, I see what you're saying. R-O-A-D-O-G-S.

00:56:18 - 00:56:20 | Speaker 1:

Are they being clever with that?

00:56:20 - 00:56:25 | Speaker 2:

That must have been how they got it. Yeah, it is R-O-A-D-O-G-S. Look at you. I would not have noticed that, Luke. Good job.

00:56:26 - 00:56:31 | Speaker 1:

Well, because I'm, again, been chastised by John Sklaroff over this whole thing. I'm really trying to get it right.

00:56:31 - 00:56:35 | Speaker 2:

Same with the website. You're right. So the website is the same construction.

00:56:35 - 00:57:07 | Speaker 1:

So it's Road Dogs, but only with one D. So Road Dogs. So yeah, at Road Dogs. And then also Road Dogs.org. R-O-A-D-O-G-S.org for more on this organization. You know, I am going to be in a few weeks. I'm going to be in Manhattan, Andrew. i wonder if i will see is that near new york it's a suburb of i wonder if i'll see jim and smiley uh tootling around the greater manhattan area i would love to see that um i was on road

00:57:07 - 00:58:14 | Speaker 2:

dogs.org yesterday looking at these um because i had mentioned um a bulldog that i had seen on a ferry in croatia that was kind of having trouble breathing and i'm like i don't know the story behind them i know that people are concerned about um especially english bulldogs from time to time and I was like so what is like what is the deal what they're calling them the lemon of the dog world what does this all mean and I I was um it says although they are cute and expensive this is off of their website why bulldogs by the way underneath a really adorable story about a woman who was just fostering a um an English bulldog and then failed at fostering because she adopted it which I assume I was a very and then she started this organization it says although they are cute quote-unquote cute and expensive many of these dogs wind up in shelters or unwanted because people don't realize how expensive they can be to maintain eye issues skin issues joint issues you name it bulldogs get it the lovable lemons of the canine world so i see so a lot of these dogs need rescuing because maybe they were abandoned by their first family um but it's a really uh good cause and i spent way too much time on this dangerous amount of

00:58:14 - 00:58:59 | Speaker 1:

time on this website yes dude your dogological clock come on yeah that's a that's a such an interesting way to and like pretty funny way to describe these dogs but i can totally see that because they are like they are manifestly adorable whether we're talking about bulldogs or pugs or any of these kinds of dogs that tend to have a bit of a smashed face but then you know also as you were reading from the website i'm sure that it can be kind of expensive to take care of them and there are some you know some kind of like fundamental breathing issues and things so it's the kind of thing that somebody might a dog that somebody might get because they're really cute but then and not really think through what's my kind of day-to-day responsibility with this animal. Yeah. So good for those folks over at Road Dogs. And Jim, thank you very much for the support.

00:58:59 - 00:59:10 | Speaker 2:

Thank you, Jim. Big weekend. Oh, wait, no. On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody rattle, dattle.

00:59:10 - 00:59:18 | Speaker 1:

It looks like it's Jillian Lamont out there in Sammamish, Washington. Out on the plateau.

00:59:19 - 00:59:28 | Speaker 2:

It's not Leesian, right? It's Jillian. Actually, that's not true. It's Gillian with a hard G. Gillian. I messed it up. I'm sorry.

00:59:29 - 00:59:33 | Speaker 1:

Gillian, rather, with a hard G as in Gilligan, minus the second G.

00:59:34 - 00:59:42 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you were saying Jillian again there, but it's Gillian. Oh. Gillian. With a hard G. Gillian. Okay, okay.

00:59:43 - 00:59:49 | Speaker 1:

First of all, I need to pre-read these pronunciations. Second of all, some of these pronunciations, I think, are making it harder on me.

00:59:49 - 00:59:52 | Speaker 2:

I think the hard G told me everything I needed to know.

00:59:52 - 00:59:57 | Speaker 1:

Gillian Lamont. Would you like to start reading these? Because I would happily pass this cup. I feel

00:59:57 - 01:00:01 | Speaker 2:

like that is an insecure reaction that you're having, but I am. I'd be happy to read these if you'd like.

01:00:02 - 01:00:14 | Speaker 1:

I'm sorry. I'm having a hard week with just remembering various things around the Dazzling Donors. I'm in a very fragile place right now. Okay. Gillian Lamont. No. Gillian Lamont.

01:00:14 - 01:00:17 | Speaker 2:

It's a hard G, like Gillian.

01:00:17 - 01:00:22 | Speaker 1:

Gillian. Gillian. Like Gilly. Like the character on Saturday Night Live. That's how you needed to describe it, Gillian.

01:00:23 - 01:00:24 | Speaker 2:

I don't even know.

01:00:24 - 01:00:28 | Speaker 1:

Like the Kristen Wiig character, Gilly, who's kind of a play on Little Lulu.

01:00:28 - 01:00:34 | Speaker 2:

Oh, is that the one who Genevieve dressed up as? Did she? The three singing sisters? No, no, no. No, no, that's a different one.

01:00:34 - 01:00:44 | Speaker 1:

The ghillie is kind of like a, like, has a little bow in her hair, and she has kind of like a black, kind of wide hairdo that's like very reminiscent of the cartoon character Little Lulu.

01:00:44 - 01:00:45 | Speaker 2:

Oh, okay. I don't think I'm familiar with either.

01:00:45 - 01:01:22 | Speaker 1:

But she's called ghillie, but she's always just being kind of like a little stinker. Okay. That's not our ghillian, though. That's not our ghillian. No way. Our ghillian smells great. That's right. Out there in Sammamish. Hey, fellas, long-time listener, first-time Dazzler here. Gillian, I promise that by the fourth or fifth time that we do this, I will get your name right. Thank you both for what you do for all of us tens. I have listened since around 2009 when I was just a wee Western Washington University graduate. I have continued listening, though, through the many stages of life, and you are both very dear to me. 2009, that's pretty early in the game.

01:01:22 - 01:01:24 | Speaker 2:

That's very early in the game.

01:01:24 - 01:01:37 | Speaker 1:

We started in 2008, so I'm guessing we were still barely, we were hanging on as a radio show, however barely, and then that's probably how we made our, I don't know, could you get Cairo in Bellingham?

01:01:37 - 01:01:49 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think so, and then, I think so, although you would know better than me because you live there, but it's funny because Gillian was listening in Bellingham before you even knew that someday you would be setting up a home there that leaks.

01:01:49 - 01:02:19 | Speaker 1:

I was watching, I'm going to L.A. this weekend to do, I'm doing a little TV story about the Duplass brothers, and I was watching a new project that Mark Duplass created called Penelope, it's on Netflix, I'm really liking it, but it's shot, it's clearly they shot a bunch of it in Bellingham, they don't say it's Bellingham, but it's like all these places I used to go to, including the Hagen, in my neighborhood I like that story. And like, I'm just like, it was a rush of nostalgia last night to see.

01:02:19 - 01:02:21 | Speaker 2:

Do they have local connections to there?

01:02:22 - 01:03:07 | Speaker 1:

They've done a lot of stuff in the Northwest. They were really good friends with Lynn Shelton, the director from Seattle who passed away quite sadly. And so just, I think that, I think they've just shot, they're from New Orleans, actually. The brothers are, but they've done a lot of stuff in the Northwest. All of which is to say, getting back to Gillian and Gillian's message. I have continued listening through the many stages of my life, and you're both very dear to me in a totally not weird way, so thank you for being there for me and all of us tens for so long. I consider TBTL to be a thing I know to be good. Truly, I have a list in my notes app on my phone called Things I Know to Be Good that includes TBTL right near the top. It's essentially a list of big and small things that are unequivocally good.

01:03:08 - 01:03:15 | Speaker 2:

Things that I know to be jude, I think, is actually... Sorry, I'm really poking a bear with a short stick there,

01:03:15 - 01:04:00 | Speaker 1:

but I had to say it. It's essentially a list of big and small things that are unequivocally good, like family, confetti, clean sheets, the Vince Guaraldi, Charlie Brown Christmas soundtrack, etc. I take a peek at it to lift my spirits when times are hard, and I encourage all tens to start one for themselves. Cheers to you three. What you do is so important. Aw, Gillian. Thank you so much. That's a really good idea of things I know to be good. Just running lists. I mean, it feels, I know we say versions of this a lot, but it feels right now more than ever that like anything that we can sort of look to and get a warm feeling from, we need those things. We need to cling to those things right now.

01:04:00 - 01:04:13 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and honestly, what great company. I'm going to try not to do it now, but I got legitimately choked up reading this yesterday. It meant a lot to me. Thank you for saying that, to be thought of in that way.

01:04:13 - 01:05:25 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's really an honor to be on that list, Gillian. Thank you very much. We appreciate you. Couldn't do this without you. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. i hesitate to introduce this top story this late in the game because it's got me real actually has me feeling very quite frustrated um but uh this person this woman named sam jones who is a self-described outdoor enthusiast and has a pretty large social media following um apparently was driving around in australia somewhere and uh and jumped out of the car to go grab and this is all on video, go grab a baby wombat and pick it up and run back towards the car where some male companion of hers is filming this from his phone as the mom wombat is chasing her and the baby and put this video up i actually have the audio it's i you know i don't know if this would be triggering for people it's you know it's not the baby wombat is not physically harmed in any of this but just Take a listen to this, okay?

01:05:25 - 01:05:37 | Speaker 2:

You just caught a baby wombat. Look at the mother. It's like, oh, it's chasing after her.

01:05:38 - 01:05:41 | Speaker 1:

So obviously this is the guy narrating from the car. Why is that funny?

01:05:41 - 01:05:47 | Speaker 2:

I don't know. It's so messed up. A mom in distress. I saw this headline. Yes, I didn't even read the details. It pisses me off.

01:05:47 - 01:05:49 | Speaker 1:

It's so infuriating.

01:05:49 - 01:05:51 | Speaker 2:

I caught a baby wombat.

01:05:51 - 01:05:57 | Speaker 1:

that is the baby wombat squealing like put me down dude yeah

01:05:57 - 01:06:10 | Speaker 2:

okay mama's right there and she is pissed let's let him go alright come here mama

01:06:10 - 01:06:11 | Unknown:

come here

01:06:11 - 01:07:19 | Speaker 1:

she lets it go she reunites it with the mother it's a fairly brief encounter by the way this woman sam jones is a montana-based self-described outdoor enthusiast and hunter with over 91 000 instagram followers uh as you might imagine uh this did not go over well in australia they're just coming down from johnny depp and amber heard being there with their you have all places with their poodles or without their poodles whatever those dogs were that that they didn't quarantine or something uh the uh australian prime minister anthony albanese uh or albanese has actually weighed in on this this i mean first of all it's like just americans can we please stop going to australia and just showing our entire ass please as it relates to animals i do think it's funny that the prime minister of the country weighed in on it though like it just i'm not saying australia isn't i mean australia is a fine country full of fine people but and also you know what we we elected a we elected a manifestly uh a brain injured person to run our country so i guess we can't talk shit but it it feels slightly provincial that the prime minister is weighing in on an

01:07:19 - 01:07:28 | Speaker 2:

american picking up a wombat this is their deal though because you remember and i think he ended up being a character whom we would not probably side with on most things but it was the agriculture

01:07:28 - 01:07:32 | Speaker 1:

commissioner last barney fife or something no no it wasn't barney fife although that would be

01:07:32 - 01:07:38 | Speaker 2:

amazing may bear usa berry i know he had the shakiest gun in the west yeah of australia

01:07:38 - 01:07:45 | Speaker 1:

that's my Don Knotts impression it's really in the sniffing

01:07:45 - 01:08:19 | Speaker 2:

I remember by the way I do do a Don Knotts impression I'm going to do this for you but it's not really a Don Knotts impression it is a comedian in the 90s whose name I no longer recall doing an impression of Don Knotts as a creeper who is spying on people and I just remember this always was stuck in my head somebody doing Don Knotts saying i've been looking at you through the bathroom window and i don't think i'm doing the invitation right but that in that exact voice and tone goes through my head from time to time and has for 30

01:08:19 - 01:08:58 | Speaker 1:

years that's funny because i thought for a minute you might be confusing or conflating two different impressions from that era which you weren't but there was one where i think it's jim carrey was doing an impression of jimmy stewart watching a nuclear bomb go off oh no i'm unfamiliar it's the funniest weirdest thing because it's just all of that kind of like aw shucksism of jimmy stewart but over like a massive nuclear event he's just he's just looking out a window and he's just jimmy stewarting uh hard on the bomb are you are you looking around i'm not fine i was also trying

01:08:58 - 01:09:01 | Speaker 2:

to find the Barney Fife thing, but that's a very specific thing. I'll find that maybe later. I don't know.

01:09:01 - 01:09:03 | Speaker 1:

It's also kind of a dark, it's a dark joke. I was going to say,

01:09:04 - 01:09:07 | Speaker 2:

it gives me, it gives me, not even just the description gives me a feeling.

01:09:08 - 01:09:40 | Speaker 1:

This is what the prime minister of Australia said. To take a baby wombat from its mother and clearly causing distress from the mother is an outrage. I suggest that this so-called influencer, maybe she might try some other Australian animals. Take a baby crocodile from its mother and see how you go there. Take another animal that can actually fight back. See how you go there. How you going? Remember our days in Australia? How you going? I like that quote from the prime minister, though. It's like, yeah, try it with an animal that might take your arm with it or something.

01:09:41 - 01:09:45 | Speaker 2:

Barnaby Joyce, by the way. I had to figure it out. Barnaby Joyce. Barnaby Joyce. What a lyrical name.

01:09:46 - 01:09:59 | Speaker 1:

Golly. Yeah, and he was definitely doing everything he could to make political hay over these problematic Americans. So there was a huge call, as you might imagine, to have Sam Jones.

01:10:00 - 01:10:05 | Speaker 2:

kicked out of the country and I guess she left before they could kick her out

01:10:05 - 01:10:07 | Speaker 1:

but they could ban her from coming back in

01:10:07 - 01:11:43 | Speaker 2:

and I hope they do first of all, having watched the video apparently she's posted two things on Instagram by way of an apology and the first one it just does not pass the sniff test at all she says basically her story is now that she and whoever was in the car making the video they came upon like a mom wallaby and its baby and that they were uh they were worried that they were on the road like literally the roadway and they wanted to make sure they were out of traffic but then she got concerned when the joey wouldn't move and then she made a snap judgment to pick it up to see if it was hurt then she says she only ran away from the mother because she was afraid the mother would attack her and so that was why this whole thing unfolded it that is the biggest load of horse pucky i've ever seen or ever read because if you watch the video clearly they were driving they saw this mom wombat and her joey she jumped out and picked up the little wombat and ran away from the mom who's chasing her like it's the middle of the night too these things are fine they're going to scuttle off the road like the idea that this was and then she's running from the mom because she also uh she says uh i want to make it absolutely clear this was never about social media or getting likes she wrote this was not staged nor was it done for entertainment in my excitement and concern i acted too quickly then i failed to provide necessary context to viewers online out of here with that shit first of all why was your dumb i'm gonna presume liar face and also i'm just gonna make an assumption here your dumb gross australian boyfriend why was he filming this and laughing his ass off if it wasn't for the likes that's so and

01:11:43 - 01:12:04 | Speaker 1:

it's just it's just what a blatant lie it just irritates me even more i did think i i thought that they actually separated them for a period of time i didn't know that they released it it's that makes me i'm glad to know that the the mom and baby wombat are together but still like why the lie is now actually my least favorite part of this get ready andrew to be even more annoyed

01:12:04 - 01:14:06 | Speaker 2:

uh she then posts a second instagram post that's that's more defensive um where she accuses the australian government of permitting the slaughter of thousands of wombats and other animals each year for the sake of landowners quote to feed you wait so she's saying people are eating wombats This was her second post Now she's defensive because the Prime Minister said Try it with a baby crocodile While the Prime Minister wishes harm on me For picking up a wombat I implore you to take a good hard look At what is currently being done in Australia Surrounding the real issues it faces Then decide for yourself if I A person who certainly makes mistakes Am really your villain, she wrote You are You are, you are the villain in this story And this is where I was trying to I was trying to like hype myself up before the show to not go here and i'm going to totally go here like i personally am not somebody who wants to be out there hunting animals i know we probably have a few listeners probably not a ton but a few listeners who are hunters and the argument from hunter and she wasn't hunting this wombat but i find it unsurprising that she's also a hunting influencer like because i understand the argument from hunters which is that you know we are the greatest stewards of the land because we want the land to thrive so that there can be more animals for us to kill on the land and that you know i will say this i do have respect for somebody if they eat meat and that they eat meat that they went out and actually tracked down and killed and dealt with that's a closer connection to meat than i've had in my life when i've been a meat eater which you know is a little bit detached and that's part of why i was able to eat a lot of meat for a long time and not have any feelings around it because i wasn't the person out there if we had to catch or if we had to basically process the meat we were eating i think we'd all eat a little bit less meat so i do think that that's a reasonable argument from hunters but i also just there was something about her cavalier thing around this animal like i'm just 100 sure that she i've not been to this person's instagram page i'm sure there's a million pictures of her in camo bow hunting somewhere being like i'm an outdoors enthusiast and it's like really do you care this much about the animals if you're picking them up

01:14:06 - 01:14:59 | Speaker 1:

and taking them away from their moms like come on no i have a feeling most hunters would absolutely blanch at this and have a problem with it. I agree. I think that she's giving a good and again I'm not a hunter either and I couldn't do that. You're a gatherer. I am well it's sometimes in Minecraft yes I was breeding turtles I'm back and did I tell you that I am actually almost actively using Minecraft like I actively thinking about it as a severance type of thing for my mind now. It takes me so out of reality that like I just like Like, and I hadn't played in literally, like, a year, and then I started a new world, and there was so much new. It was so different. They've added all these different animals, including turtles. I don't know how long turtles have been around, but it takes a long time in Minecraft to breed turtles. You've got to breed them. Then they lay eggs somewhere, and they'll only.

01:15:00 - 01:15:29 | Speaker 2:

lay eggs exactly where they were born and then you got to wait until night time and it takes like seven or eight nights for the eggs to hatch you got to watch over them and protect them and i was just like i was i was just strip mining i was fracking for diamond and and uh and the the duality of man right there in minecraft has fracking for diamonds and uh breeding and creating a turtle sanctuary in minecraft last night and it was like three hours that i wasn't thinking about

01:15:29 - 01:16:03 | Speaker 3:

anything else well that seems like a good that seems like a good outlet for you a good kind of like i think i think that would i would file that under self-care you know of just like of just like you know the taking a break a well-deserved break from the constant onslaught of the trauma that is this world right now i think if if that's involving a turtle sanctuary uh that exists purely in the um you know theoretical i still think that's a pretty good thing they're really cute when they hatch And are they, this is a dumb question, but are they, they're pixelated, right? Yeah, very pixelated. Everything in Minecraft is pixelated.

01:16:03 - 01:16:05 | Speaker 2:

Very blocky, very blocky looking.

01:16:06 - 01:16:07 | Speaker 3:

Could that be the show pick?

01:16:08 - 01:16:30 | Speaker 2:

Maybe. I was just wondering about that. Now, here's where it's going to get sticky is if, when Genevieve asks for help laying down the flooring tomorrow, and I'm like, well, I'm actually laying down some flooring in my Minecraft house. That's where things could maybe go off the rails. Yeah, absolutely. By the way, we are a pro-marsupial podcast, which is another reason why we take that story very seriously. Exactly.

01:16:31 - 01:16:38 | Speaker 1:

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

01:16:39 - 01:16:45 | Speaker 3:

All right, my friend. Before we slide down that dinosaur on this Friday, we got any emails or emails?

01:16:46 - 01:19:45 | Speaker 2:

We do. Do you remember, somewhat on a lark, I wondered aloud the other day on this show whether or not a radio burns up more battery power if you play it at a louder volume. So I don't know why I was thinking about this. Well, I do know. That's a great question. I'll tell you exactly why. I went to turn off my old – I have a radio that is from the 1960s. I listen to my sports radio on it every single day. Our friend and listener Karen gave it to me as a gift. and um it's a nice radio and the other day i went to turn it off and so you do that by turning the volume knob all the way down and then it clicks off and i almost didn't click it i almost just turned the volume down all the way and i just had this thought of like would turning down the volume on this and leaving it there all day still burn battery power as opposed to actually clicking it off because there's no lights on it it's an old radio right there's nothing powering like a little clock or anything so i thought you know if i blast a radio at full volume for an hour does that burn more battery than listening to it at a reasonable level or even having it on but all the way turned down well we got a note from listener anya who says i am your physics professor listener love it can't resist responding to your physics question so here we go i am going to read this in its entirety luke and there will be a quiz afterwards i'm not telling you exactly when sometime next week i will quiz you all on this anya says yes a radio with the volume turned up higher will require more power that is the rate that energy is being transferred from the speaker to the surrounding air and therefore will drain the battery faster we're just getting started the louder the volume is set the greater the deflection or amplitude the speaker diaphragm is oscillating through at whatever frequencies, making up the tone of the song or the speaker's voice. That greater deflection results in a larger amount of energy being transferred to the air molecules, which then also vibrate with a larger amplitude. Then that vibrates to the listener's eardrum with a larger amplitude. Each of these are energy transfers from the speaker to the air to the eardrum. The energy of a sound wave is proportional to the square of the amplitude. I think Anya's just throwing that in there because it sounds cool The energy output of a speaker is distributed throughout 3D space By increasing the amplitude that a speaker's diaphragm is oscillating through The 3D space, a.k.a. the volume in which the sound is detectable by the human ear is increased In fact, you should consider the volume control to be the direct control of the energy output of the speaker Much like how a dimmer switch for a dimmable light bulb directly controls the power output or brightness of the light bulb, the frequency of the sound also affects the rate of energy transferred to the speaker to the surrounding air. Of the speaker, I should say, to the surrounding air.

01:19:45 - 01:20:00 | Speaker 2:

But as the receiver end of a radio signal typically are not controlling that aspect, many fun physics aspects involved in radio technology. Can't wait to get physics questions about AM versus FM. Oh, come on. Modulation versus...

01:20:00 - 01:20:01 | Speaker 1:

Frequency, get at me, Anya.

01:20:02 - 01:20:15 | Speaker 2:

Seriously. Wow. That was a very, very useful explanation. I also, that was a much more technical way of explaining what I think we were sensing intuitively, which was louder equal more power use.

01:20:15 - 01:20:25 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was the original email. I added some of the science. But yeah, anyway, I found that fascinating. Thank you, Anya. That was really interesting.

01:20:25 - 01:21:14 | Speaker 2:

now somebody tell me well i guess i know the answer to this because of cafe standards in cars but like when i was growing up when i was growing up there was always a debate about because i was always driving around with like no gas in my car and there was a question as to if if it made sense to turn your car off more just to save gas let's just say like you were going to talk to your friend in a parking lot turn the car off and save gas but then the restarting of the car did it use more gas to restart than to just like what was the more fuel efficient thing let's say over a 10 minute period was it to turn your car off and then turn your car back on 10 minutes later or was it to let it run let it idle for those 10 minutes it was always and this was a very uh sort of existential question because i was always driving around well below e uh-huh now the reason i said

01:21:14 - 01:21:18 | Speaker 1:

you're also stopping to talk to your friends in parking lots a lot constantly but but the reason

01:21:18 - 01:21:36 | Speaker 2:

I say the question I guess has been answered is because most new cars now have that auto shut off that like you you um basically like it's natural thing will be to turn off when it's idling at a stoplight and then start itself back up but only if it's a hybrid or electric though

01:21:36 - 01:21:40 | Speaker 1:

or only if it's a hybrid though right a regular car will do that yeah the Tiguan that I used to

01:21:40 - 01:22:13 | Speaker 2:

have uh had that really and that was not that had no plug-in I had this is news to me I didn't know that oh yeah and my um i think maybe even my second space car had it i've had it in a couple of cars that were not hybrid and and i've also seen it in a lot of rental cars and it it annoys me greatly although i guess it's you know it's probably allegedly a better fuel standard or something but so i guess that means if they put that in cars i guess that means that they think that turning the car off and turning it on is the more fuel efficient thing i guess although i would

01:22:13 - 01:22:48 | Speaker 1:

say probably when you were having this question 30 years ago i don't know if it was the 90s or early 2000s like so much of car technology was different right like i had cars where you had to like kind of feather the gas or i'm trying to think of farm equipment or cars but i remember like you know you would have some piece of machinery where you're kind of like okay i gotta pump the gas a few times and i gotta keep it halfway down that feather careful careful and uh and so like there was definitely like at one point we were like inject literally injecting gas right into the into the engine i don't know anything about cars i want to say andrew maybe

01:22:48 - 01:23:30 | Speaker 2:

is it possible that that tig one i had was a what's called a micro hybrid in other words there was like the there was just the just a lanyard of of hybrid i'm reading a vehicle start stop system or start stop system known as sns uh micro hybrid or micro hybrid electric vehicle automatically shuts down and restarts the internal combustion engine to reduce the amount of time the engine spends idling thereby reducing fuel consumption and emissions um i'm just wondering if like because i know for a fact this was in the tiguan that we had which i when we bought it i don't remember it being uh uh you know described as a hybrid of any kind unless i missed that part or maybe it was something very you know something very slight within the the mechanics of the

01:23:30 - 01:23:43 | Speaker 1:

engine well here's what an idiot i am because now with so many electric cars out there and i and now I get them kind of confused with hybrids, you had to plug in hybrids, right? Like before we had fully electric cars, did you plug in hybrids? No, you don't. You didn't.

01:23:43 - 01:24:12 | Speaker 2:

No, the hybrid is just switching between gas and electric when it's got enough charge, it's charging. In fact, a lot of people are saying that hybrids are kind of still the way to go because the infrastructure of pure EVs, there's still not enough infrastructure in some cases, whereas a hybrid it's kind of a little bit of the best of both worlds you have you know you have gas if you need it but then you're getting a lot more uh like i think my parents just bought a prius

01:24:12 - 01:24:21 | Speaker 1:

that's a hybrid because it charges by driving so basically it charges the batteries when you're using the gas um and then so you don't have to plug it in okay i couldn't remember that doing

01:24:21 - 01:24:38 | Speaker 2:

that because it had that that on off thing and like i said every time i'd start the car i would drive somewhere and the first stoplight i would stop at it would turn off and then i'd be like there was a button you had to you had to opt in on every drive you had to press this button that was like a little a with a circle around it and when you press that button and it lit up it was

01:24:38 - 01:24:42 | Speaker 1:

it told it to stop doing that you did because you didn't like the feeling give you a bad feeling

01:24:42 - 01:24:56 | Speaker 2:

when it would shut off yeah it was it was a little bit like it was a little bit like not unsettling but just i always felt like it wasn't going to start back up when i needed it to you know have you ever driven a car with this in it have you ever experienced this i don't think so

01:24:56 - 01:25:00 | Speaker 1:

I mean, I've experienced it definitely as a passenger in like a –

01:25:00 - 01:25:15 | Speaker 2:

a lift or or maybe a rental car i don't think i've driven a rental car that has it but i definitely know the feeling like a it's a sometimes even just crossing the street though you'll hear the car shut off or like when once you're crossed you can hear the car like kind of kick back on when

01:25:15 - 01:25:53 | Speaker 1:

somebody presses the gas pedal yeah it feels to me obviously i'm not a mechanic and i don't know anything about this stuff but it feels like it's more wear and tear on the car to constantly be turning on and turning off and constantly like and the first time that i encountered this i'm this is so funny i remember i was renting a car at lax and it was like um actually like they had upgraded me to some fancy car i want to say it was like a bmw or mercedes or something and i remember driving it and i didn't even know this was a technology right so i get to the first stoplight and it just turns off and i'm like what hell and then i started up again and then i keep driving and then i took the car back andrew because when you're like you're starting it up it probably

01:25:53 - 01:25:56 | Speaker 2:

doesn't have a key that you turn but you're hitting like a start button i'm hitting a start

01:25:56 - 01:26:14 | Speaker 1:

button and i'm like something's broken on this car i bring it back now what i wish would have liked would be for the person at the whatever avis to say oh no this is that's what it does they just said okay like they just took it back like i guess this car's broken and i didn't figure out until like a while later no that car was just doing what a lot of modern cars do so the car they

01:26:14 - 01:26:22 | Speaker 2:

replaced it with was not another one that shut down i thought you're gonna get another one you're like how am i getting all the bum cars car that actually had a crank on the front yeah right

01:26:22 - 01:26:24 | Speaker 1:

Then it would backfire a couple of times.

01:26:24 - 01:26:29 | Speaker 2:

They gave you one of those things that sits on the railroad tracks. You've got to bump it up and down and up and down.

01:26:29 - 01:26:31 | Speaker 1:

God, I'd like to see one of those someday.

01:26:31 - 01:27:23 | Speaker 2:

God, we grew up. Oh, this is a – like I don't even know if younger people would even know that reference because like that's a holdover from things you would see in like really early black and white movies or something, right? And I really do not – and I'm sorry. We really should go. I'm sorry to extend the show. But I really don't love people my age, like kind of thinking like, like saying to younger people, like, you don't know this cultural reference. You don't know this band. And even if you're not like saying it to demean the younger people, but kind of like, oh, man, I'm so old or whatever. Like, I don't know. I just think that those conversations get a little bit embarrassing or cringy, especially in front of people who are younger than you. Every now and then, you and I might have a flight of fancy on the show and be like, hey, can you believe it's been this many years or what have you? It's part of the aging process. But anyway, I had a moment. It's part of the dying process. Exactly. And it's, you know.

01:27:23 - 01:27:25 | Speaker 1:

The body begins to shut down on new things.

01:27:26 - 01:28:01 | Speaker 2:

But I had a moment where I was talking to a couple of people, two about my age. And then this is, you know, the volunteer gig on Sundays. And then a couple of people who I'm going to put in there. Maybe one of them was in their 20s But I think maybe another one Maybe early 30s I'm not sure And one of the older people Made a reference to Mr. Ed And we were talking And I could sort of tell That the younger people Had literally no idea What we were talking about And I turned to them And I was like Are you guys familiar with Mr. Ed And they're just like No we just shook their head I'm like oh it was a TV show

01:28:01 - 01:28:03 | Speaker 1:

Did you sing A Horse is a Horse of Course of Course

01:28:03 - 01:28:46 | Speaker 2:

I didn't Did that jog their memories And I was very glad that I wasn't like You guys don't know Mr. Ed like I'm so old like I really did not do any of that yeah but I did clock it because I think that that was a kind of a rare moment where it's like Mr. I mean it totally makes sense I don't think it's like bizarre that the young generation doesn't know Mr. Ed but it's like just it was just Mr. Ed was not our generation but it still loomed so large for our generation as well as the talking horse like it's just like a it's a cultural reference that is a stand-in for things you You can just say Mr. Ed. He was Mr. Edding it or whatever. And I don't know. It was kind of not shocking but interesting to be like, oh, yeah. No, like that is no longer going to be just like a go-to, like the idea of Mr. Ed.

01:28:46 - 01:28:57 | Speaker 1:

Like a talking horse thing or they used to put peanut butter. Like it wasn't the story that they would put peanut butter on his gum so that he would – the horse would move its mouth around in the way that then they could overdub. Did you hear that story?

01:28:57 - 01:29:17 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I heard that story. But there is also a bawdier version that Genevieve, that I remember growing up, people were saying a crueler version to get the horse to talk. But I believe that that was a rumor. In fact, Visa and I, I was telling her this story the other night, and she's like, well, you know how he got him to talk, right? Oh, no. And I was like, I think that's an urban legend. Let's just say it involved the other end.

01:29:17 - 01:29:20 | Speaker 1:

Bamboo Harvester, that's the name of the horse who played Mr. Ed.

01:29:20 - 01:29:39 | Speaker 2:

Oh, is that true? but anyway I'm pretty, Jenny was like no I believe, she believed the urban legend of how they got Mr. Ed to talk but she looked it up and I kind of forgot about our conversation then five minutes later she's like well I guess they didn't do that to the horse and I was very glad to hear that it probably was more of a peanut butter in the mouth situation

01:29:39 - 01:29:59 | Speaker 1:

well here's the thing about, I mean and we're in agreement on this but like the first episode of Mr. Ed was 1960, it was 1961 to 66 so let's go from From 66 until 2000 is going to be, what is that, 34 years? And now throw another 24 on that, 58 years. We'll round up to 60 years.

01:30:00 - 01:30:13 | Speaker 2:

60 years it's been basically 60 years since mr ed ended now imagine in in in 1985 somebody was like well haven't you seen bobby skidoo bobby 28 skidoo and you're like uh no i haven't like it's

01:30:13 - 01:30:28 | Speaker 1:

from 1925 you haven't seen it well these people were in their 20s so it would be more it would be a little bit different than that it would be more like you know like what was 60 what's 60 years ago to a to a 25 year old as opposed to 40 years ago but yeah i guess maybe it would have been

01:30:28 - 01:31:07 | Speaker 2:

you know it just still i mean i always say a version of this but like there's just so much stuff that doesn't seem that long ago to me that if you do the math it's like it would have been preposterous for me to know about it when i was 25 exactly um but it feels so kind of so kind of recent to me also let's see people uh when you click on bamboo harvester who was the uh saddle bread slash part arabian horse who is known for playing mr ed uh people ask what happened to bamboo harvester, and then, why was Mr. Ed canceled? And I assume it's because he said something about trans bathrooms. There are only two kinds of horses.

01:31:10 - 01:31:20 | Speaker 1:

Mr. Ed with bad takes. I don't even know what stole to go into anymore. Classic Mr. Ed.

01:31:20 - 01:31:32 | Speaker 2:

Alright, well, now we know how radios work and i think that's a big takeaway from today thank you anya uh thanks everyone for listening this brings us to the end of our broadcast week i've got an e-bike to put

01:31:32 - 01:31:47 | Speaker 1:

together now yes it was delivered during monday oh we didn't mention that but it was delivered during the show i'm very excited for you luke you're gonna that's your big weekend you're gonna be tooling around town weekend do you have a basket on the front of that thing yet not yet

01:31:47 - 01:32:20 | Speaker 2:

but i will tell you this because somehow instagram knows that i bought this e-bike my feed is just all accessories yeah to e-bike it's not even e-bikes it's like how about this how about this overpriced light how about this fancy helmet i did buy a kind of a high-tech helmet because i figured i should try to keep what what brains i have left in my head but um it's really funny to see the way that the word has gotten out online that i've recently become the owner of an e-bike And now everybody wants to sell me every ancillary product.

01:32:20 - 01:32:36 | Speaker 1:

Would you do anything frivolous? I'm being serious here, although I think I know the answer. Like, if somebody gave you, if some co-host of yours gave you those, like, classic little ribbons that come out the side of the handle grips, would you put them on? That would be so fun.

01:32:36 - 01:32:38 | Speaker 2:

100%. Put me in a 4th of July parade, please.

01:32:38 - 01:32:39 | Speaker 1:

Nobody does that anymore.

01:32:40 - 01:32:47 | Speaker 2:

All right. We will be back here on Monday with more Imaginary Radio for you in the meantime. Have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

01:32:48 - 01:32:56 | Speaker 1:

And good luck to all. Power out.

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