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#4433 Silly Rabbit, Don't Push The Kids
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#4433 Silly Rabbit, Don't Push The Kids

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

March 28, 2025 | 01:06:45 | Leisure, Comedy

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An anonymous listener shares a hair-raising story about getting scammed by the same "Sheriff's Department" call that Andrew recently received. Luke and Andrew also discuss their viewing experience during baseball's opening day. And the prime minister of Australia is getting surprisingly involved in the story of a mascot that pushed a child.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:29 | Speaker 1:

This is stuff so funny, by the way. Did the comic come up with this? Because some of this stuff, like, I feel like I could see somebody doing their act, right? A duck that's friends with a monkey who he can't swim, that's hilarious. That's, like, something I would do. I would be like, could you imagine yourself being like a duck, but you don't want to get in the water? Yeah, that's the way I feel every day when I hop on the 48th freeway. T-B-T-L

00:00:29 - 00:00:44 | Speaker 6:

Guess what day it is Guess what day it is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend

00:00:44 - 00:00:48 | Speaker 2:

All I know is this violates every canon of respectable broadcasting

00:00:48 - 00:00:59 | Speaker 3:

You like are definitely, you're the real thing that a lot of people say So, do you think if you weren't, I mean, if you were less fake, do you think you would be, or you could, or you have a desire to?

00:00:59 - 00:01:11 | Speaker 2:

Meat from the street sounds like a fun treat. I'm a poet and didn't even know I was rhyming those words, but it happened anyway.

00:01:13 - 00:01:34 | Speaker 5:

Alright, hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It would appear we are in the midst of what the kids call a crash out. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Oh, la, la. Coming to you for the final day from New York City. Yes.

00:01:34 - 00:01:35 | Speaker 6:

New York City!

00:01:37 - 00:02:16 | Speaker 5:

Tucked between Times Square and the Hudson River. Here we are. It feels like my little home. I've been here for the entire week. I've got my little rituals. I go to Chipotle every day for lunch, which is mentioned in the Hey Dummies video this week. I don't feel good about that decision because there's so much, you know, there's so many options here in New York City. The fact that I would go to a chain restaurant is it's very demoralizing, but it's what I've been doing and I just have to live with it. And you do, too. Just like the fact that you have to live with the fact that we're at episode 4,433 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. The Major League Baseball season has commenced.

00:02:16 - 00:02:20 | Speaker 3:

The crack of the bat, the roar of the crowd. That's right. Baseball's back.

00:02:20 - 00:02:46 | Speaker 5:

The Mariners won. Tom Hanks did something truly charming. And Ichiro did something that I'm a little bit on the line about. We will talk about that. But also, time permitting, listen, we Americans, with the person that is in charge of this country, have no room to give other countries grief about their world leaders, about their leaders. But I will say, Australia...

00:02:46 - 00:02:47 | Speaker 1:

Australia is a wonderful island.

00:02:47 - 00:03:16 | Speaker 5:

you might need to give your prime minister a little bit more to do and australians are just as unique both warm and direct so he doesn't have time to weigh in on like rugby mascot kerfuffles which is something that's happening in australia right now uh we will talk about that again time permitting we will definitely permit time for this guy he's the longest running cobra of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships he is andrew jalapeno walsh and he's

00:03:16 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 4:

joining me right now good morning my friend good morning luke i forgot to mention something to you uh before the show that i'm just remembering now is i have a um we can save it for later in the show if you'd like but i got an amazing email from a listener i'm not even going to use their name they signed it but i don't know if they want me to use their name or not so i'm not going to i got an amazing email from a listener who got the same exact phone call only from a different county a scam phone call that was supposedly from a local sheriff's department but this person went much further down much further down the line in this scam so did that make you feel a little better well yeah yeah i didn't feel terrible about myself the moment i felt terrible was when i like kind of told my friend you know ders i was like oh no something's wrong i gotta call gotta call the sheriff's office they just called me and then you know i i quickly on air light on yeah i went into a little studio out in whatever system they use well it was amazing actually the reason i gave you that detail was because my brain was just thinking about it and i didn't really flesh it out in the story the the studios there at kow it was just like a tiny little voice booth right small little room small board you could track a you know some news story in there or something but there's a little ipad that hangs outside of every studio now and he's just like i'll just book it for you and he just slid his finger across it i don't know what he did it was like a jedi jedi night thing. I'm like, well, I don't want to go in here if somebody's using it. He's like, I just signed it out for you. And he just slid his finger across his iPad. He was a good friend. Anyway, I quickly realized, oh, there's something going on. This seems scammy to me. But there was a listener that took them way further down the line. So let's try to get that in later, or I can read it now.

00:05:00 - 00:05:07 | Speaker 2:

Now, if I've whetted your whistle, no, if I've exposed myself too much here.

00:05:09 - 00:05:11 | Speaker 1:

Sure, let's do it right now. Why not? Let's do it now.

00:05:11 - 00:05:22 | Speaker 2:

Like I said, I am not going to use the listener's name. This person, in fact, they identify themselves. I'm a casual listener, not a 10, not even a 9. Not even a 9. Well, I mean, okay.

00:05:23 - 00:05:34 | Speaker 1:

I don't understand that demographic, honestly. I feel like this thing, you're either in too deep or you have no patience for this crap. Those are the two kinds of people I know of.

00:05:34 - 00:08:23 | Speaker 2:

Or it could be somebody who is in a relationship, some sort of relationship with somebody who plays the show around them a lot, a co-worker, what have you. Anyway, this person says, I also am a person who has now had very little patience for people who click on spam emails and websites. Well, prior to your King's County scam, this was a Snohomish County scam. Same exact dude with the accent you described, et cetera, and I got taken. Well, almost. I certainly wasted four hours on a recent Friday afternoon running around in traffic. The scam, once you get started, goes like this. Bullet points here. Due to unpaid fees with the county, you have been issued a bench warrant. end. Number two, you're under a no contact order by the court. Three, you must stay on the phone with the quote unquote officer until either the fine is paid or you surrender to the officer. And finally, you have three outstanding complaints, each of which can be resolved by paying a civil penalty of $1,000 each. If you choose, you can surrender to the court and will be held until bail is posted what's important here is they were able to spoof the snohomish county sheriff's office phone number oh wow thus your journey begins driving to the designated location maintaining phone contact with the quote-unquote officer you're ordered not to drop contact with the officer based on your quote no contact order each time you come that sounds like a no non-contact that's what i was thinking too that doesn't quite i don't quite understand that but it says each time you come to a stop sign a road i have a restraining order that restrains you from not being near me each time you come to a stop sign road change intersection you have to report your location to the officer it gets crazier loonier as you can imagine trying to get three thousand dollars in cash before the banks close and then you got to get to the sheriff's office what finally caused me not to fall for the completion of the scam is that at the very end the officer wanted me to put the three thousand dollars cash which at this point i had in hand into a coin star machine at a safeway oh give me a brark if they had a better means of collecting the money they would have had me you know this would have been a great prank to pull on a frenemy or as well this takes a turn or a surprise party or something when you uh tie someone up running them through the hoops uh if if andrew feels embarrassed about quote getting scammed he has no idea uh final word uh i should report the phone number that called me it says to the state attorney general's number um anyway that is uh that is that's like that story we read by that finance reporter about like how far people go they actually have money in their hands

00:08:23 - 00:09:01 | Speaker 1:

yeah i mean that's i mean you talk about all the time andrew the last mile problem their issue is that you can't take the money to the sheriff's office right so like that's the thing once they solve for that and i don't know how they will they'll probably 3d print a sheriff's office and put it next to the real sheriff's office they'll have chat gpt 3d print them a sheriff's office but like thank goodness that that was the one i'm glad that that person's antenna finally went off when it was like take it to a coin star machine i've also heard and i believe that finance reporter in new york uh they pulled up to her apartment yeah and picked up the stuff

00:09:01 - 00:09:06 | Speaker 2:

yeah she handed it through the window right of a van or an suv or something i think or like came

00:09:06 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 1:

down the steps or something and like handed a shoe box of money yeah i mean just wild car window yep i just hearing before i'd even heard that story hearing your story it's it's weird it's got me kind of not on pins and needles but like i just made this decision that i'm literally never going to believe anything again i mean seriously like i was like because they're getting better and better at it and again they're getting eventually heaven forbid they will probably be able to pretty effectively spoof the voice of somebody in your life now how they would know who's in your life is a whole other you know thing to solve but like i feel like it's not outside the room of possibility that i would get a call from somebody who sounded like my daughter saying that she was in trouble and basically what i'd have to do is is not immediately run to wherever she is or immediately deposit the money into whatever i'm told i need to do it would be to hang up the phone on what I think is my.

00:10:00 - 00:10:04 | Speaker 2:

troubled child and then call my troubled child on their real number or you know what I mean it's

00:10:04 - 00:11:41 | Speaker 1:

like basically we you can't believe anything the thing that was different for me this time and I don't remember if I mentioned this to you when I told you the story on Monday but like I don't think I've ever gotten a scam call before where they knew my first and last name you know any spam call you get or scam call is you can just you hear the phone banks in the background and they and they're just off somehow right they're asking for the wrong person and then when you correct them they try to loop you in further um or they just don't know your name or whatever like but never have i received a voicemail to my correct phone number my private correct phone number and said this is a message for andrew walsh and so you know all of our data is out there i mean you google yourself and you find all kinds of like i'm sure you've done this yourself luke and maybe you don't want me to encourage people to do this to us but like you know you can google yourself and you find like old you find old addresses and old phone numbers sometimes it's a little bit off but it'll i've been i remember being on vacation one time i don't know why that matters but i just remember like kind of laying in bed sleeping in late for some reason i clicked on something all of a sudden i'm like looking at like some really janky looking website that said that basically is listing old places i've lived and then relations like clicking on my sister's name and seeing her old addresses and again not all of it is correct but a lot of it is correct and there's just like this stuff is just sort of living and floating out there and so somebody connects the right dots and suddenly when you're being talked to directly by you know on your phone by your name i think that that also is something people now need to look out for

00:11:41 - 00:11:52 | Speaker 2:

absolutely no it's it's pretty terrifying um how was your baseball watching last night i know you had gotten your roku and you were like all ready to go you were getting your special peanuts

00:11:52 - 00:13:19 | Speaker 1:

yeah you know how did it go i didn't eat any peanuts can you believe it i know every year i eat the peanuts but you know what i had a i had a thought i was like i was really hungry and so i bought some like frozen chicken wings i think the tga friday brand is what i'd recommend to people um but uh and i was you know i always like oh i got my peanuts i bought my peanuts like a week ago i was so excited and that's always a tradition but then like when the game began i was like i'm not really in the mood for peanuts right now and i was like don't be beholden to doing that like if you don't want peanuts don't eat don't choke down you're an adult man yeah and i was like i don't want peanuts consumption um honestly i didn't even eat my wings until i was so hungry i was hungry two hours before the game and then i made my food ready for uh game time and then i just didn't even touch it until like the seventh or eighth inning i think but uh it was a good time it was very chill vives and i vives watched the whole game with me it was a lot of fun uh did the app work the app worked for some reason it's got it has some sort of audio syncing issue it's not a big deal when you're watching um baseball because very infrequently do you see somebody talking into the screen and that you would notice that they're what they're saying is slightly out of sync with what their lips are what you're hearing i guess from their lips um but uh so a couple of times i had to like kind of reset it to kind of get it synced up again I don't know what's going on, but I was a little bit surprised that the whole thing didn't end up crashing out. We lost audio. Were you watching live? Did you lose audio during Itro's ceremonial pitch?

00:13:20 - 00:13:24 | Speaker 2:

I missed the first pitch, but I've now watched it online, and I want to talk to you about that.

00:13:24 - 00:13:25 | Speaker 1:

Okay.

00:13:25 - 00:13:51 | Speaker 2:

I was watching on the MLB app, which, weirdly, that was the free game yesterday. So after all of the machinations and conversations yesterday. I guess tonight we'll see if I try to link in via my Fubo system or whatever. But I was able to watch it on the MLB.com last night. But, okay, so Ichiro threw an 80, it was like an 88-mile first pitch to Dan Wilson, who was 86.

00:13:52 - 00:14:04 | Speaker 1:

There was a lot going on at the time because I couldn't tell if the audio issues were on my end or Root Sports or the app or whatever. So I was a little bit like, what's going on? Why did we lose all the audio? But I did see the clock. I think it's at 86.

00:14:05 - 00:14:14 | Speaker 2:

And I read a piece in the Seattle Times this morning that said Dan Wilson was unaware that Ichiro was going to throw the ceremonial first pitch full blast.

00:14:15 - 00:14:19 | Speaker 1:

There was a lot of joking around about that, though, all day on the sports station.

00:14:19 - 00:14:21 | Speaker 2:

Oh, was that a known thing?

00:14:21 - 00:14:40 | Speaker 1:

That he was good, that it was Ichiro. Well, they revealed that Ichiro was going to throw it his hardest. Well, they revealed it earlier in the day that it was going to be Dan who was catching him. There was sort of like, who's going to catch Itro? And then when that was revealed, I heard Dan Wilson on one of the afternoon talk shows, and he was joking ahead of time. He's like, yeah, I don't know. He's going to throw heat. I don't know if I'm going to be able to handle it.

00:14:40 - 00:15:09 | Speaker 2:

Oh, interesting. Well, maybe I misread the article. The article in the Times led me to believe, maybe incorrectly, that it was a bit of a surprise to Dan Wilson that the ball was going to come in that fast. And I was like Okay so I guess if Dan If Ichiro told Dan before that he was going to do that then that's one thing but if you just spring that on someone I'm starting to think Ichiro might be mentally unwell well I know why does he have to throw at 86 miles an hour well have you there

00:15:09 - 00:16:01 | Speaker 1:

there was a real deep dive I think we both read it like a long time ago on Ichiro like maybe about 10 years ago when he was starting to like it was clear he was gonna be wrapping up his career I can't remember how long he's been I was gonna say I was gonna say out of uniform but well it's been about 10 minutes that's what i mean literally in uniform right no but there is i think he sleeps in it the the the his mentality and the article didn't say mentally unwell you gotta be careful with stuff like that i guess when you're a responsible outlet but goldwater violation right no and i'm not going after you there but i mean basically this article that just talked about like from such a young age and just like what his routine is like his brain the reason he's able to do what he does is because his brain works the way that it works and let's just say it is not like normal people's brains work it is absolutely obsessive so regimented so regimented

00:16:01 - 00:16:18 | Speaker 2:

and routinized yeah like i just was like of course he threw it his hardest yeah by the way it was pretty high it wasn't as high as the first pitch i threw out but it was decently high which also made me feel a little better about my first pitch because i'm not a professional baseball player i'm

00:16:18 - 00:16:50 | Speaker 1:

looking for this article now because i mean i don't want to be i might have misunderstood the situation or it might have been one of those things where dan was joking about it the manager was joking about it earlier on in the day and then was really surprised in real life when it when itro actually threw an 86 i'm looking to see what it was i'm not sure but uh or now it's listening at 84 here it's just going to keep sliding down until it was like a 14 mile an hour curveball um but uh anyway yeah so i'm not i'm not exactly sure what was going on there um i uh

00:16:50 - 00:17:17 | Speaker 2:

also saw an adorable that tom hanks was at the dodger game and of course they kept cutting to him and he was scoring the game oh yeah i love that so much i guess it's unsurprising i mean tom hanks is like it's actually like from our parents generation and and he is like noted typewriter enthusiast he seems to like things that are a little bit you know sort of impractical but process oriented i guess yeah but i just loved that he was scoring the game it was so cool to me

00:17:17 - 00:18:38 | Speaker 1:

I love that too. Every year I say, oh, before baseball begins, I'm going to get myself a scorebook or even just print out some online and just learn how to do it. Because I love, you know, when I go to the ball game with my friend Paul, he's always scoring the game. Anyway, I've been to the game with other people who do it. And I'm always like sort of envious because it seems like something I would really like, right? like it's very up your alley like yeah like and you can take i love organizing things right and that's basically like organizing a baseball game sort of um it's sort of why i like archiving things like i've been archiving these tapes these vhs tapes and stuff but then when the beginning of the season begins i always just get say like i don't know if i feel like learning that i'm just so deeply lazy and also the thing about me and baseball is probably i i wonder if if people who score the game they also do it because it's a way to force yourself to stay locked in on the game sort of like taking notes during a meeting and the thing is like it's rare that i'm you know i was even thinking about this like yesterday i really enjoyed watching that game like i didn't have to plug in my computer i got the real app now or whatever but like if i'm home on time tonight will i watch will i sit down and watch the whole game again it does seem long like i love baseball but i'm always puttering i like doing things you know like i'm probably not sitting down to score the game i'm probably listening on the radio or my headphones as i as i bop around the house or

00:18:38 - 00:19:10 | Speaker 2:

take care of this or that because i'm in new york andrew i was allowed by the state of new york to place terrible bets on the mariners um which none of which came through i don't think actually i should double check um i don't think how many strikeouts did logan have do you remember eight yeah not over 10 which i needed and i we did get a polanco home run yeah we did a very important big deal but um i i had a bet that julio rodriguez cal raleigh and polanco would all hit home runs

00:19:10 - 00:19:23 | Speaker 1:

it was such a dumb bet who is it it was polanco who'd you have sorry it was polanco julio and and big dumper oh okay yeah julio betting on julio early in the season i know i i was trying

00:19:23 - 00:19:54 | Speaker 2:

to manifest it i was trying to like i just thought i was so full of like what is that word enthusiasm it's been so long andrew yeah since i've had enthusiasm i was just so geeked up yesterday about this game i was like if i bet on julio to hit a home run maybe it can just be that kind of game maybe it can be that kind of season maybe it's like he just comes out hot and it's just like we're just getting we're just getting all these w's both literally and figuratively and it starts with me betting hard-earned money on julio to hit a home run the only way to make it

00:19:54 - 00:19:58 | Speaker 1:

happen yeah did you tell julio that you had money on him i wonder if that would have i kept calling

00:19:58 - 00:20:10 | Speaker 2:

he would not, he was getting a busy signal like i was calling everybody's live right exactly we have a little intel on that that we got to be careful about but we can talk about that more next week yes yeah i mean i meant to

00:20:10 - 00:20:20 | Speaker 1:

reach out to our mutual who's got some got some connects or has a friend who has some connects this is inside my entire personality now is trying to get on everybody's life i think we might be

00:20:20 - 00:23:19 | Speaker 2:

able to make it happen we'll we'll see but we'll try yeah um i was so without making this too much about sports but we're already kind of here i just wanted to ask you did you happen to watch the the interview or like i guess the press avail with logan gilbert afterwards the little conference i gotta say i think you're more prone to to watch that kind of stuff than i am um and because i know that you love highlights i remember one time i think i went to go turn off the radio i was starting to like after a game i was starting to like shuffle around and you were just like you were like no this is the best part it's the highlights anyway when we were on our road trip i think it might have been the miracle under i honestly think it might have been that night Or I'm just like conflating everything in our life into like one special sports night. But boy, I'm not a huge fan of listening to athletes talk. Usually there are some exceptions to that. And that's not me trying to say like athletes are dumb. I think that could be sort of a way to interpret that. Like, oh, they don't have anything to say. I think athletes, usually if you're at your top of the game, there's some great level of intelligence there, too, even if it's just intelligence for the game. But articulating that kind of intelligence is very difficult for a lot of athletes. In the same way, you know, I used to have a job where we'd try to get poets on radio shows and get them to talk about their poetry. It's just like some things are just really hard for some people to talk about, even if they're really good at that craft. So if I'm listening to sports radio, which I listen to a lot, and you're listening to the hosts banter about and I'm kind of into it and they're like, OK, up next, we have like, you know, the new left tackle for the Seahawks. And it's like, I'm probably not interested in that. but there are some who are different and I would say that Logan Gilbert is one of those like he is not he does not go into the cliches like he doesn't just say oh you just got to go out there you just got to like you know it's one pitch at a time like all that bullshit like he thinks about every question he really gives it some thought about three or four questions in the press conference you know this is one of those press conferences where the camera stays on him the whole time the people shouting the questions are not miked so you sort of hear them in the room you and i at this point could probably recognize most of the voices in that room you can always hear ryan divish you can hear um shannon or whatever uh but anyway somebody then asks him a more emotional question because they're asking him about kind of his strategy or what he's you know going out there doing he was saying not unlike each row when he went out there to warm up his balls were sort of lifting a little bit his pitches were kind of so he's like so i had to talk to kale we kind of like you know corrected that right before the game because i was pretty amped up about opening day and then somebody said what was it like to have the honor of opening day you know starting duty and he uh it was i can't explain it it wasn't like um oh it's just great anytime you can you know get an opportunity like this you take it was just kind of like he just like he's a pretty serious guy but then he couldn't help smiling and he's just like i can't remember exactly what he said and it wasn't the type of thing where if you read it in the newspaper it'd be like earth shattering but it

00:23:19 - 00:23:32 | Speaker 2:

was just like listening to a just a smart relatively quiet but a man with real emotions and real thoughtfulness answer these questions immediately after a game like that it was so good

00:23:32 - 00:24:11 | Speaker 1:

that kid is amazing i love that speaking of uh good interviews uh listener cat sent this to me on instagram this is a guy who i think is a pitcher for the rays maybe his name is pete fairbanks and he apparently gives great interview um this is just kind of like a super cut of him you know in the locker room talking after games um it starts with i think he had like an eye injury because he had pulled down a pool basketball hoop on himself while playing against a kid and they were asking about his eye injury or something i'm going to try to play this from instagram and see if this if this works i know this is always a little touch and go let's see It's thinking about it.

00:24:12 - 00:24:17 | Speaker 2:

I think you might have to unmute it. Instagram's a pain. When you play it from your computer screen, it automatically mutes it.

00:24:18 - 00:24:22 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's also like it needs to open Safari for some reason. It's really tough.

00:24:22 - 00:24:25 | Speaker 2:

Instagram is hard to play live. I think I might.

00:24:25 - 00:24:26 | Unknown:

Ah, no.

00:24:27 - 00:24:39 | Speaker 2:

I'm trying to think. There was some guy who was going around. I'm just buying you some time here. There were some super cuts I was seeing in previous years of some guy. Is he just like a really straight-talking guy, kind of talks S a little bit, this guy that you're about to play for me, this Fairbanks?

00:24:40 - 00:24:46 | Speaker 1:

I think so. Yeah, I mean, basically, he's just like, he's very unintentionally funny.

00:24:47 - 00:24:55 | Speaker 2:

That's what I'm thinking. I remember some guy would be like, we just suck out there. We're just not doing any good. And he was just like kind of very frank about being on a bad team.

00:24:55 - 00:24:59 | Speaker 1:

This guy is very direct about his own failings. Like if he threw a bad pitch, he really owns it.

00:25:00 - 00:25:22 | Speaker 2:

see um apparently i have to call mark zuckerberg and ask him if he will open instagram for me and you have to call dana white signal dana white can probably help with that okay we'll see if this plays it's still sorry it is this is absolutely terrible radio or whatever it is we do here this is okay stop this right now madness dear goodness okay here we go here we go it's it's uh cool

00:25:22 - 00:26:50 | Speaker 1:

basketball hoop down onto my face after dunking on a three-year-old i have no idea what you said at the beginning kk was telling me that if i were a real man i'd still be smoking my cigar right now so that's for him would i prefer that you didn't characterize raves baseball as bad offense yes i would but tight games but i don't think that's what your intention was martin but we could we could agree to disagree just on a very unfortunate time to be the lesser pete and we'll get back out there tomorrow and try and get him in the same spot the pitch what were you trying to do with I was trying to get him a swing and miss. I got you. Yeah. Is it where you wanted it to go? I might not have been high enough because he's a big old dude. Take us through that fastball that looked like it was yanked a little bit. What happened there? What did you feel? It was yanked. It felt like it came out of my hand real hot and unfortunately a real not near the strike zone. I'm still having a better night than the guy who told me when Matt and I drank some bleach, so that's good. I mean, you're trying to go a little low in a way. No, I'm trying to blow his doors off and I overthrew it. Yeah. I'm never trying to go low away. I'm trying to throw fastballs by people. Was it just a matter of command, location, selection, anything specific? No, I thought it generally sucked. I didn't think it was a specific suck. That's what you heard? I thought it was like an all-encompassing type of suck. So, you know, we're going to try and rectify that. But for right now, I'm going to be pretty pissed about it.

00:26:50 - 00:26:52 | Speaker 3:

First of all, let's start with...

00:26:52 - 00:26:54 | Speaker 2:

Anyway, that's Pete Fairbanks.

00:26:54 - 00:27:14 | Speaker 3:

The whole time I was like, I guess this isn't the guy, because I would recognize it, because I think I sent that to you a long time ago, or not the whole thing, not the whole thing, just the, like, it's like, because it does seem sort of, it's a little coarse, but it seems a little TVTL droppy. It's just an unencompassing, it's an all-encompassing suck, and I was like, yeah, that seems like we could find a place to use that in our universe somewhere.

00:27:15 - 00:27:29 | Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Thanks to Kat for reminding me of it. I also love, because I've been around it a lot, I like, well, I don't know if I like it but i recognize quiet reporter voice it's reporter asking an athlete about a thing that

00:27:29 - 00:29:00 | Speaker 3:

didn't go well for the athlete after a loss yeah the after a loss like they're delivering like a terminal diagnosis yes i remembered when you were we're just talking about drops there for a second i was like didn't i you'll be unsurprised to hear that i um had a few beers during the game last night i'm coming in a little bit a little bit shaggy today i don't think that's a word that used when you describe staying up too late drinking too many beers but um i was like didn't i send myself a drop last night like late i was like oh this is a perfect drop so i just went to my email here that's the way i remind myself of things i just email myself something usually i try to email email myself the actual audio i see no this was at 1 24 a.m according to gmail it was nine hours ago and all i sent myself was a screen cap of the beginning of the whistler podcast i was listening to and apparently around two minutes and three and i don't i don't i can't even dial it up right now it's literally just a screen cap so i'd remember to dial this podcast back up this is the old 1950s show the the whistler and about two minutes in somebody says johnny dollar no i'm saving travel receipt enthusiast yours truly johnny dollar the man with the electric bank account no what is it uh it doesn't matter um but uh expense report the expense report yeah so the action-packed expense report thank you um i need to go back and figure out what i heard as i was laying my head down on my pillow last night at 1 24 a.m uh listening to the whistler um i have the exact

00:29:00 - 00:29:39 | Speaker 2:

same system except it's with text message and i text myself things constantly like i texted myself this tiktok clip of tom hanks at the baseball game so i would remember to tell you that he was scoring the game and and uh i accidentally texted my friend and the executive producer of live wire laura hadden the other day i just texted her the word extremely rude woman on the train because you were sending yourself i was trying to text myself but i had been in a text thread with her and i just got mixed up and i sent extremely rude woman on the train and she's like on spring break with her children in british columbia right now just like four hours go by and i just get a

00:29:39 - 00:30:00 | Speaker 3:

question mark uh-huh and it's like oh and it's a text so my i'm more likely i think this is a good thing instead of accidentally sending a private note to you or somebody I work with closely I am more likely to not send you the note but send something I should be sending to you to myself in other words I am emailing

00:30:00 - 00:30:51 | Speaker 2:

myself so often whether it's i i stop emailing yourself i take out my phone i take a show pick for tbtl i email it to my i'm just like constantly emailing myself things text doesn't work so great for me because i like email that you can then go back and mark something unread again like like if you ever need me to see something or remember something on monday over the weekend or whatever like here's some audio or whatever if you text it to me and then you and i go on and we text about other things that's just going to get lost in the stream up there somewhere um whereas emails i every day i open up my email and i see what's like what's bolded what's unbolded and that's my to-do list so just yesterday i think i was trying to send you like dazzling donor messages or something and then i came back to my computer i'm like why am i emailing myself all this shit and it's like oh because i'm just constantly typing in my own email address that was not

00:30:51 - 00:31:12 | Speaker 1:

interesting i heard it is no i heard it no no no no listen i was pausing because i was getting i wanted to get the specific number i have 17,595 unopened emails how many how many 17,595 unopened emails in my like personal not my tbtl but my personal email account do you have any like

00:31:12 - 00:31:17 | Speaker 2:

oily rags and a lighter because i would just burn the whole thing down if i were you

00:31:17 - 00:32:45 | Speaker 1:

it's it's rough i'm never getting to zero and again most of those emails well the things i don't use the opened or unopened as the organizing system i i'll just you know i'll search for something you know and it'll be in there i mean those are almost all just like from the washington post oh and like you know what i mean although i'll tell you this i clean that my the new iphone uh mail system that i have has now actually separated my emails into primary and then there's a little shopping cart and then there's uh a like a speech bubble so the shopping cart is obviously you know commerce related the speech bubble is uh updates it's called and then there's one called promotions it's like a little megaphone and it's insane how much less email i get every day because i only look at the primary one it's amazing like i don't get that many emails that are just you know from you or from you know my cbs folks or whatever i mean i get some but it's like all of that 17,594 those are all in the like you know transactions updates or promotions categories and it's sometimes I look down at my phone probably I'm looking for a little serotonin hit or something and I'll realize like three or four hours has gone by and I haven't received one email to the primary email account now which is just basically to say something I care about reading and I'll feel a little uh a little lonely probably another reason you're not getting the

00:32:45 - 00:32:55 | Speaker 2:

tbtl email it's probably going into the promotions bin i hate the promotions thing because then people then don't read my emails read my right and it's also i kind of don't know if i trust

00:32:55 - 00:33:28 | Speaker 1:

i don't know if i trust apple to decide what is you know like what's a promotion and and what's not let's i found out that like yeah like i'm getting i have a livewire email in here i have uh we would never do something that's strictly promotional every email we send out from livewire is meaningful and important and primary. Yeah, Delta Airlines telling me that it's time to check in for my flight tomorrow. Andrew Walsh. Andrew, you're in here. You're in promotions. Business in the front, business in the back.

00:33:28 - 00:33:31 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, that was just a quick newsletter last week because I was on the road.

00:33:32 - 00:33:40 | Speaker 1:

I'm going to categorize you as primary, Andrew. All right, good, look, that's good. I've just moved you into the primary bucket. Good. So I will be seeing all of your emails now.

00:33:40 - 00:34:45 | Speaker 2:

I think the email before that one was a good one can I be this is the wrong place to have this conversation if I want people to sign up for the email I've been having trouble like the emails have been great lately because I've been incorporating more listener submitted stuff I love doing the newsletter that we send out I have really loved the yays and nays that we do our version of the rants and raves and I'm trying to do that about once a month listeners if you have something that brings you delight a little moment that brought you delight or frustration you can email me andrew at tbtl.net and put yay or nay in the subject line and we'll put it in an upcoming roundup i enjoy doing that but like i was looking for something in my inbox we've been doing this newsletter since 2015 now i've done hundreds and hundreds of these things and i was and so usually if i'm searching for something in my inbox some old newsletter is going to come up like some proper search term was embedded in there that pops up when I'm looking for an old dental receipt or something. Where do you keep your dental receipts, by the way? Do you have a tab for that?

00:34:46 - 00:34:48 | Speaker 1:

That's about 14,000 of those. Okay, gotcha.

00:34:48 - 00:34:59 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was all those dental receipts. Anyway, I had this feeling. I was like, oh, and I'm reading my old email from like two years ago. I'm like, this is a pretty good spoof. And then I got to the end of it.

00:35:00 - 00:35:11 | Speaker 3:

literally made me laugh i can't remember exactly what oh you know what it was and now i'm just smelling my own farts but i did a bit about um replacing louis louis with macklemore

00:35:11 - 00:35:17 | Speaker 2:

yes do you remember because the mariners famously did that right now yeah the ceiling can't hold so

00:35:17 - 00:36:59 | Speaker 3:

the subject line i'm going to actually do this uh with you here i'm going to reread an email that i sent out to the listeners in 2022 subject line was louis phooey and i basically said listen the Mariners recently retired using the song Louie Louie at the seventh inning stretch situation. They replaced it with Macklemore, like whatever that ceiling can't hold a song is. I was pretty vocal on this show about like not liking the Macklemore choice. Not that we had to stick with Louie Louie, but just that there's probably better, less cringy options out there than Macklemore. That's just my personal opinion. And so I said, but I'm not going to be the type of person who complains about something without throwing like suggestions out there. you know like let's be the change we want to see in the world so i said exactly i'll just throw light a torch don't curse the dark just off the top of my head here are some things that i thought would have been better uh what i like about you by the romantics love shack by the b52s let's get it on by marvin gay i'll make love to you by boys to men i want your sex by george michael i want to sex you up by color me bad knock into boots by h town nice and slow by usher damn i wish i were your lover by sophie b hawkins freak me by silk touch my body by mariah carey booty by jennifer lopez big booty by gucci main too much booty in the pants by two live crew or rock around the clock by bill haley in this comment and i got to the end of that and i was like that made me laugh two years later that actually made me laugh that's a good joke but then it made me feel bad about every newsletter i've sent since then i'm just like i think i've been in a sourpuss mood i don't know what happened around well around november i started to get kind of in a bad mood and then in january i got into a really bad mood and well let me go let me check

00:36:59 - 00:37:12 | Speaker 2:

my outlook calendar to try to see what could have happened in like early november that would that would cause one to feel a sort of ineffable sadness at all times a lack of joy uh yeah so i

00:37:12 - 00:37:18 | Speaker 3:

was kind of like i gotta get funny again somehow i gotta stop talking about email organization and I've got to find my funny.

00:37:18 - 00:37:19 | Speaker 1:

I think I brought that up.

00:37:19 - 00:37:20 | Speaker 3:

Yeah. It might have been on me.

00:37:21 - 00:37:34 | Speaker 1:

We was hoping for some razzle-dazzle. Razzle-dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle-dazzle. On your mark. On your mark. Get set. Get set. Now ready. Ready. Go. Everybody razzle-dazzle.

00:37:34 - 00:38:09 | Speaker 2:

Speaking of inboxes and email organization, we have received some messages, along with a significant amount of financial donation, from the following dazzling donors. These folks are not only supporting TBTL with a dazzling amount of dough, but they also have filled out a handy form, and we're going to read those messages. We're talking about our pal Remco Tannis out there in Zurich, Switzerland. Hey, Remco. What up, Remco? Remco says, I'm a huge fan of REM. Now, this is interesting to me because that's also the first three letters of Remco's name.

00:38:09 - 00:38:12 | Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah. I wonder if there's a connection there.

00:38:12 - 00:38:22 | Speaker 2:

If your name is like William, do you have to like Wilco? That is an interesting question. Would he be drawn towards the band because it does represent a significant portion of his first name?

00:38:23 - 00:38:27 | Speaker 3:

If his name were ACDC Co., would ACDC?

00:38:28 - 00:38:45 | Speaker 2:

I think he would. Or is he just a fan of the soulful and honest lyrics of Michael Stipe, who I once saw in Prospect Park in New York. and he looked like way buffer than i expected that's why it took me a minute to put together

00:38:45 - 00:38:50 | Speaker 3:

that was michael stipe what do you think of this michael shannon thing you know like michael

00:38:50 - 00:38:54 | Speaker 2:

he's going around he's now like agent van alden is going around singing rem songs everywhere yeah

00:38:54 - 00:39:04 | Speaker 3:

like and with michael stipe on stage he's like doing and he's like kind of evoking a physicality that is not unlike michael stipe too and i'm like what absolutely right what is happening here i

00:39:04 - 00:39:17 | Speaker 2:

don't i didn't realize that he was collaborating with the actual michael stipe i thought he was just like doing it like an a really dedicated rem cover band i think that he was doing it with

00:39:17 - 00:39:37 | Speaker 3:

non-rem actors and now like somehow like i think they i don't know if they're touring i think touring together is too strong of a word but i have seen video from at least two different performances i think of michael shannon doing kind of a michael stipe as he's leading rem through some classic songs, and I believe Michael Stipe has been on stage. I would describe it as snake-like.

00:39:37 - 00:40:12 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, snake-like. I feel like Michael Stipe's onstage presence is very reptilian. Slithery. Slithery. And Remco loves it. He says, I'm a huge fan of R.E.M. It took me 20 years of fandom before I got to see them live. Remco, I will mention, as I probably have before on the show, that there was a significant period of time where the R.E.M. Green was the only tape I had. my Honda Civic. There was a period of time where all I had was Cypress Hill, Black Sunday. And there was a period which are real different energies. And then there was about a year where all I listened to was R.E.M. Green over and over and over again.

00:40:12 - 00:40:12 | Speaker 3:

Could be worse.

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All right. I wanted to see them live on my own because I thought no one knows my relationship with this band. Getting to the concert hall, seeing people with R.E.M. shirts, I was so disappointed. R.E.M. was my band, not theirs. Turns out more people like the stuff that I like. there's a community I'm walking around Zurich in a tbtl hoodie I know you can't play music but REM's find the river is the song that hooks me up with tbtl since forever thanks friends and I believe are these the lyrics to REM's find the river I think so there's a whole bunch of lyrics

00:40:49 - 00:41:07 | Speaker 3:

in here that Remco has included you know I was thinking I don't know this song but I guess I do This is off of Automatic for the People, which I believe – it wasn't my first exposure, obviously, to R.E.M. because they had a lot of hits and stuff. But I think that was the first R.E.M. record that I actually bought. And I bought it in a mall.

00:41:07 - 00:41:07 | Unknown:

God.

00:41:08 - 00:41:15 | Speaker 3:

I remember walking to a mall, a record store in the mall after brunch with my family and got Automatic for the People. Thrilling.

00:41:15 - 00:41:22 | Speaker 2:

What was the – because I believe I had that CD as well. What were the big hits off of Automatic for the People?

00:41:22 - 00:41:26 | Speaker 3:

That was, that's me in, oh no, no, that's not, that's me in the corner, is it?

00:41:27 - 00:41:28 | Speaker 2:

Losing My Religion?

00:41:28 - 00:41:46 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't think, I think Losing My Religion was the previous record. Remco is loving this, by the way. Yeah, boy, Remco, let's see here. So, oh, Everybody Hurts, Everybody Hurts would have been the huge one. No takebacks, you still have to donate. Oh, Everybody Hurts. Everybody Hurts, I think was the huge one. Oh man, this is a great record, good.

00:41:46 - 00:41:50 | Speaker 2:

I wish I knew this, okay, so Everybody Hurts, what else is on there? Lay some of those tracks on me.

00:41:50 - 00:41:58 | Speaker 3:

I don't know that you... Oh, you said you had it. Okay, yeah, yeah. I think I had it. So it started with Drive, which I really liked, and then Try Not to Breathe.

00:41:59 - 00:42:02 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I had this record. Drive, that song slaps.

00:42:02 - 00:42:33 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, very much. So the Sidewinder sleeps tonight. Everybody hurts. Then that little instrumental, New Orleans Instrumental No. 1, Sweetness Follows, a very delicate thing to round outside A. Monty got a raw deal, Ignore Land. Ignore Land had a pretty heavy, I think, kind of driving feel to it. star me kitten slows things down again man on the moon was huge if you believe the Andy Kaufman song yes then night swimming and then finally find the river hey baby I love when Michael Stipe

00:42:33 - 00:42:44 | Speaker 2:

does a moderate Elvis impression he does it he does an impression of Andy Kaufman doing an impression of Elvis yes exactly he kind of throws it in there very quickly baby yep um and I guess

00:42:44 - 00:42:56 | Speaker 3:

the very fun this is insulting but i need to be i need to speak my truth to remco the the only song that i can't get in my head right now is the one that remco's included the lyrics to which is find

00:42:56 - 00:43:11 | Speaker 2:

the river does that ring a bell to you it's the last no it doesn't but we do have okay so we know that this connects remco to the show so we want to treat it with honor which is why i won't try to sing it in my michael stipe voice night swimming do it in your elvis voice can you do

00:43:11 - 00:43:24 | Speaker 3:

can you do michael stipe as elvis michael stipe as elvis covering michael shannon right but with a little taste of andy kaufman just like a touch of andy kaufman there's actually a new andy kaufman

00:43:24 - 00:44:12 | Speaker 2:

documentary coming out that i'm very intrigued by oh is there yeah i'm seeing uh i'm seeing a lot of uh buzz around it okay so here are the lyrics to find the river uh me my thoughts are a flower strewn with ocean storm bayberry moon i've got to leave to find my way watch the road and memorize this life that passed before my eyes and nothing is going my way the ocean is the river's goal a need to leave the water knows we're closer now than light years to go i have to go to find the river bergamot and vetiver run through my head and fall away leave the road and memorize this life that passed before my eyes and nothing is going my way and night swimming deserves a quiet

00:44:12 - 00:44:29 | Speaker 3:

night that's not in that that's how michael stipe signs every record you know when you got to some lyrics near the i don't know mid to end of it i'm like oh yes yes yes you start to hear it i started to hear it my incredible rendition light years to go stands out to me so i now yeah i'm sure that

00:44:29 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 2:

if we played the song which we aren't allowed to do i would totally recognize it because that was in the era automatic for the people was still in the era where i put a cd on and i listened to the whole thing yeah and they just became i just knew every single song i would listen all the way till the end and then i would pick a different cd i've my my sort of attention span is so atrophied at this point you know it's ridiculous um but that was still back in the days where i could have named i probably knew every song off of that record to some degree yeah and listened over and over and

00:44:59 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 3:

that's something

00:45:00 - 00:45:46 | Speaker 2:

about listening to um records now you got a record player recently i got one for christmas a couple years ago and so i've been buying records i've been buying records that i used to have but i've also now been like i'm kind of going through a little bit of a talking heads phase and i've always liked the talking heads but i never kind of went kind of deep on them and now i am and i am just like i got this record their second record um after a friend suggested it last weekend and like it's like oh i actually don't know most of the songs off of this and i'm just like listening to it front to back front to back and it's kind of like it's just nice to get back it's not for everybody it's not for all the time but it's nice to get re kind of re-familiarized with just a record side a's and side b's yes absolutely i'm like my next thing is uh because i have this

00:45:46 - 00:46:17 | Speaker 1:

record player and i have this whole setup now is i actually i have to get serious about my record collection because what i realized i just have a lot of random crap in there because i was just You know, if I was at a garage sale or something, I have a lot of, like, you know, Lawrence Welk Christmas and stuff that's just more like of a gag than, like, music I necessarily want to hear. So I'm going to start acquiring stuff on vinyl that I, as I said backstage at Livewire, what an incredible plot twist for a 40-something white guy. Yeah, right. That I am getting into vinyl, finally.

00:46:17 - 00:46:57 | Speaker 2:

Well, you know something? This has been living in my head, and I don't think I said this to anybody. I know I didn't bring it up on the show, but we sort of alluded to earlier today about like sort of the mental state of people like you and I as we're dealing with this administration and all the awfulness that is going on in this country and everything that goes along with that. and a big part of it for me is feeling powerless and I'm thinking about something that Chris Hayes said in conversation he was in conversation with somebody in Seattle he was in conversation with a fella on stage and I think it was you in fact the more I think about it

00:46:57 - 00:47:00 | Speaker 1:

was it the guy who mixed up what magazine he used to work that's what you know

00:47:00 - 00:47:02 | Speaker 2:

yeah that's dude

00:47:02 - 00:47:34 | Speaker 1:

we had a guest on Livewire the other night and I identified her as being from Ontario no being from calgary ontario and it's in alberta oh and it was commented upon rightfully so yeah we've already got enough tension going on with canada yeah right i need to be i need to i need to not totally completely confirm that suspicion that we americans are thoughtless about canada by not knowing that that calgary is not in ontario but chris during the talk in conversation with

00:47:34 - 00:49:01 | Speaker 2:

Luke Burbank at Town Hall said like one thing and it's not like a huge it's not a huge pushback but he said you are seeing people sort of returning because you know again talking about the attention economy and the onslaught of of you know everybody trying to get our attention digitally so they can sell stuff to us and etc um but he said like there are people taking kind of a step back like slowing down a little bit and he ticked off three different things and they were all things that i had been doing one of which is like getting off the major platforms is like you don't have to be in the gated communities of instagram or whatever there are other like and i was like oh yeah you mean like blue sky and flicker where i've been spending my time um and then uh now this is something like i'm bragging but no it just struck home with me it's kind of like he discussed you guys discussed a little bit about like kind of a move back towards people getting record players and like and kind of being a little bit more intentional with that and there was a third thing too i was like yeah i'm not i i didn't do all of these things together on purpose some of them on purpose to sort of make a bit of a the the tiniest of stands but like it's just like well i'm also just getting old i guess and like you said it's like oh surprise surprise the 48 year old white guy got a record player but um it was kind of interesting to say like yeah i guess i am sort of trying to create my own little my own little oasis away from like the the mainstream social media stuff, and it has been fun to listen to music again in this manner.

00:49:02 - 00:49:09 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm excited to get home and get back in touch with my record player. Maestro?

00:49:09 - 00:49:14 | Speaker 2:

On your mark! On your mark! Get set! Oh, I thought I was going to trick you there.

00:49:14 - 00:49:19 | Speaker 1:

I've been going on for so long, I thought maybe you had stored the sound effect away.

00:49:19 - 00:49:36 | Speaker 2:

I had like two seconds. I realized we were wrapping up there. I was like, oh, yeah, sorry. Very quick. I'm sorry, I'm having Well, thank you for complimenting my technological skills today because I am leaking confidence in my ability to say anything interesting today.

00:49:37 - 00:49:46 | Speaker 1:

So I appreciate it. Stop it right now. You know who won't listen to that kind of negative self-talk is Chandra Benjamin, who's in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

00:49:46 - 00:50:25 | Speaker 2:

Now, this is a coincidence. I've been having an ongoing conversation with Chandra, I think. Did I say that correctly? Chandra? Chandra. Chandra. Chandra, I believe Chandra and I have been going back and forth all week and it started and I'm not even going to get into it. I'm not even going to get into it, but she didn't like something the way you were saying something on the show. And I wrote back and I said, I don't think I should be copied on this. I said, this isn't, I'm like, this isn't something I said. This isn't something I say. And I think you can send this to Luke. And if this is the same Chandra, I believe you are.

00:50:25 - 00:50:27 | Speaker 1:

Have I mentioned the 17,000 unopened emails?

00:50:28 - 00:51:09 | Speaker 2:

And Chandra, if I have the right person here, I'm looking to see if I said, yeah, I know, but Luke doesn't check his email, so I needed somebody to read this. And I'm kind of like, I was pretty straightforward. I was like, I really wish people wouldn't do that because then it's just like, oh, well, let's kind of yell at the guy. And it wasn't really, it was, you know, whatever. It was a little bit, it was sent in a moment of frustration, but it's kind of like, well, the guy who doesn't check his email gets off scot-free and I'm your heat shield on this stuff. But we talked it out. Well, have you considered not checking your email? Well, that's what the thing I'm like, well, what that's going to lead to is me not checking my email. And it is. It is the same Chandra. I just double checked it. I was clicking around here. So, Chandra, thank you for the open dialogue that we've been having.

00:51:10 - 00:52:30 | Speaker 1:

Chandra, because not to make this a pay-to-play type of situation, but because you are donating a dazzling amount of dough, I will today when we're done with the show, I'll put on like a spelunking helmet with like a little lamp on top, and I will slide into the cave that is my emails and I will respond to your email, Chandra. Chandra says, just thanks for the hours of entertainment. You provide the break I need from the news, work, and the real world in general. That is a service that we provide when we talk about did each row throw the ball too hard at old Dan Wilson, etc. That's right, I need to read that story. It's a break from real life. Also, this is a very weird place to take this, but just the mention of Santa Fe, New Mexico, You know, we haven't really talked much about is the whole Gene Hackman and his wife passing away situation and like what a what a kind of nuts story that was and and how suspicious it seemed. And then I guess there was a kind of a reasonable explanation that was just like a pretty sad and pretty weird circumstances. I guess his wife passed away and because he was – the age he was and I think suffering from dementia or Alzheimer's or something was unable to really care for himself but also unable to connect with the outside world. That's basically what they – I think of this because they were in New Mexico as well. That's the sort of final read on the situation, right?

00:52:30 - 00:53:55 | Speaker 2:

That's my understanding of it, although I think – and again, it's just such a grim story. I will say it's one of those stories that I talked about. this kind of a rarity it's one that i talked about almost incessantly with genevieve and friends and like just yeah because it was so mysterious and also it totally seemed like a carbon monoxide leak that's how it for because you heard that you know two people were found yeah two deceased people were found and we just love gene hackman in this genevieve's love of gene hackman is only surpassed by her love of laughing at me when i accidentally fall down in public like she loves gina hackman so so much and the when the story first came out and we knew even less than we know now but it was certainly mysterious but it also was like because it was mysterious they described in great detail how both he was found how his wife was found dog like it was just so unbelievably sad but also so hard to sort of figure out like when we hear about stuff like this it's our instinct to want to put it together and have it make sense in some way and so as more and more information sort of just sort of dripped out of the story we're it would always re-spark our interest in talking about it but we don't talk about on tbtl for the reason like i'm stumbling stumbling around now is because it's like i don't want it's a really it's really sad and it's really really grim for lack of a better word it is grim i mean my first thought

00:53:55 - 00:53:58 | Speaker 1:

Gene Happen was, I think, like 95, right?

00:53:58 - 00:53:58 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was old.

00:53:58 - 00:54:25 | Speaker 1:

So he would definitely, you know, had lived a very full life. And were he to pass away from natural circumstances, natural causes at 95, you would probably say, well, that was a life well lived. Again, it's a really sad sort of how it happened. But, yeah, just what a weird story. And what a weird place for me to take it. But I've been meaning to talk about it with you. And I just figured we would use Chandra's dazzling donation message as a jumping off point. Well, Chandra, the good news, you've got another email you can send me now.

00:54:25 - 00:54:35 | Speaker 2:

but another thing i did exactly i really feel like i owe chandra a new dazzling donor message i really started that off all right fine on the wrong foot it is my fault all right thanks to

00:54:35 - 00:54:59 | Speaker 1:

our donors for making tbtl possible hello and welcome to top story um you know how there was that uh very annoying case of that american picking up like a wombat or something yeah Taking a wombat baby away from the mom And that happened in Australia And the nation of Australia was right

00:55:00 - 00:56:23 | Speaker 5:

I think horrified at that and I think I noted that the prime minister was commenting on it and I said something like I feel like the prime minister in Australia again we have a you know we have a like an absolute malign narcissist running our country so I don't we don't really get to crap talk other people's leadership but I do think it's funny that the prime minister has apparently weighed in on this story of a rabbit mascot who uh it pushed a kid may have pushed a kid at i believe it was a rugby match and so the the first headline i saw was like australian prime minister defends rabbit mascot guy and i just thought man i can't believe that's landing on his desk uh-huh i can't believe that's that's me because this is like a i get the sense it's a relatively kind of small town like kind of regional team like it's you know uh it's i i can't see the president again i don't even like to say the name of the person who's currently the president along with the words the president of the united states because i'm forced to confront the reality of it but like i mean that every single day that guy does the guy who's running our country does 50 horrendous things and this is you know this isn't horrendous it's just funny that it got up to the uh prime ministerial level let me just play you some of the tape by the way this reporter in australia i don't i'll play you the whole tape he's really it's really leaning into particularly at the end like some real tv

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reporter tropes let's just take a listen now he's the man inside the suit charlie gallico is reggie the rabbit a 20-year calling that now hinges on a one second shove well i apologize if i did something wrong but i don't think i did the boy is nine it happened on saturday the south's lost to Cronulla at Shark Park.

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Old Abbey, old Reg. Coming off the field and he called me over and I went over like I normally do to make the kids happy and then he grabbed me.

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Yeah, right. And that's it. So he grabbed you first. The boy's mother says her son put out his hand for a high five. A security guard intervening. She reportedly contacted police but they declined to investigate.

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It's not my nature to do anything wrong. even any i love the kids and i'll do a lot of hospital work i'll do a lot of a lot of stuff

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today he had the support of players um yeah charlie's a good bloke um you know he's in around the boys you know reggie he's a good person and i know the club will deal with that i know further

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comments on that you know i will love reggie and the prime minister it's a fact that he's a very

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small man who goes in that costume he's 81 years old he wouldn't want to hurt anybody and uh yeah i've seen nine-year-olds who are bigger than charlie that's the actual prime

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minister of australia uh-huh defending he's a small man and he's 81 years old and he would

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never hurt anybody do you have any what are the visuals like on this when you sent me this article this morning i was reading it on my phone and i don't know what was it i can't remember if it was a foreign news source was an australian news source it had very strong like new york post

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sort of vibes to it yeah with its i think i might have found an article that was maybe reprinted in the post i forget where i saw it initially but you've got the guy charlie he is a very diminutive fellow and he's like standing outside his house being interviewed by the tv news people what about

00:58:24 - 00:59:06 | Speaker 4:

the actual incident though because it was so funny it's like never have i read an article which first of all is written in a kind of a confusing way like they don't even mention what the sport is until like well down but is it rugby or aussie rules football i'm pretty sure it's rugby if i recall i don't have in front of me right now but the amazing thing about it was like never has a story required visuals more than this one but whatever this sort of like herpes filled website was that i was trying to read this yeah and just all these pop-ups and this and that and none of the media was working and i'm like can we just see the incident have you put eyes on the incident i have this rabbit pushing a child what is your take on it it's pretty quick okay it doesn't look

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like i i i don't think that the the rabbit is telling the full story truthfully i don't trust anyone who says i believe his quote is something like i don't have any he doesn't say malice well let's just go back let's start i i don't trust anybody who says that they have never had a bad

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impulse in their life because like everybody yeah and he called me either i went out of the army yeah to make the kids happy and then he grabbed me yeah right and that's it so he grabbed

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you first the boy's mother says wait it's a little before that sorry um he says something that's like a beer it's kind of a blanket statement about his like his innocence now hinges on a one

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second shove well i apologize if i did something wrong but i don't think i did the boy is nine it

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happened on saturday the south's lost to crinola at shark park oh happy old reg coming off the field

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and you call me up

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The boy's mother says her son put out his hand for a high five, a security guard intervening. She reportedly contacted police, but they declined to investigate.

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It's not my nature to do anything wrong. I love the kids and I'll do a lot of hospital work.

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It's not in my nature to do anything wrong. don't believe anybody who ever says that as a blanket statement because it's in all of our

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nature to do something wrong literally human nature it's huge of course he's a rabbit maybe

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this isn't a rabbit thing silly rabbit yeah but it's it's pretty clear that he i mean he doesn't it's also it's not that big because in the words of the prime minister of australia who's weighing in on the matter this guy is pretty small so it's not like the kid's not hurt by this he's just kind of pushing the kid away it's a it's a quick little moment but i don't think it was i don't think it was a misunderstanding of what happened i think the kid got on his nerve somehow and he uh and and he pushed the kid away in a in a you know in a moment of weakness or whatever does it look like

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the kid is going in for a high five though and he pushes him instead because isn't that the story

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yeah i think that that actually kind of checks out i mean uh you you i don't remember seeing like a small child's hand in the pre-high five formation okay but okay it's just kind of cuts it's like in slow-mo just kind of cuts to this rabbit and pushing this kid strong donnie darko

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energy yes serious donnie darko energy how would you feel well it'd be very sad wouldn't it oh this

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is to the question of if he loses his job of being the mascot of this uh of this uh and the

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prime minister it's a fact that he's a very small man who goes in that costume he's 81 years old He wouldn't want to hurt anybody and, yeah, I've seen nine-year-olds who are bigger than Charlie.

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If this was the end for you, how would you feel?

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Well, it would be very sad, wouldn't it?

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Yeah. A lot of fans wouldn't miss me. At Souths, Charlie is more than just a mascot.

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Tonight is up to every individual, every one of them.

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Giving rev-up speeches to the players, receiving awards for his dedication, especially to children. The club now deciding where the push will come to shove.

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Daniel Sutton continues, where the push will come to shove. That's a great ending to that.

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I couldn't tell what the tape was there where he was talking in what sounded like a big empty room. Then he calls it a rev-up speech. A rev-up speech. That revved me down, my rabbit.

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I was literally going to say, can you imagine you're some, you know, 22-year-old rugby player, and you're just, like, about to go out on the field and put your body on the line, and you're, like, more testosterone than man. And then Charlie comes in to give you a rev-up speech. He's got the rabbit head off.

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Yeah.

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You can do it. It's like, save it, buddy.

01:03:05 - 01:03:09 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, save your air, honestly. As he's giving that rev-up speech, I'm kind of like, buddy, you're going to need that air.

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No, seriously, I cannot imagine somebody who would rev me up less than this kind of weirdo guy who's the mascot But anyway, I think it's also funny that, basically because I played it about three times It would appear the Prime Minister knows him personally Does everyone in Australia know the Prime Minister of Australia? Is it like Schitt's Creek? Does everybody know the mayor?

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That's what I, again, I was reading this article, I found it very hard to follow But like, is there some connection between the prime minister and this actual this maybe that maybe that or something like, yeah, it seemed like there was like some sort of personal connection because it does make the whole country the way this is written. It makes the whole country sound like one small town.

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Do you know do you think Joe Biden knew who plays Hawk, the Seahawk mascot?

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That's wait. His name isn't Hawk, though, right? It's no blitz. Oh, blitz. Blitz.

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I think I've embarrassed myself again.

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I can't finish this podcast with you. Chandra, get his ass, Chandra.

01:04:12 - 01:04:17 | Speaker 3:

That might be as good an indication as any that we should probably wrap things up. What do you think?

01:04:17 - 01:04:35 | Speaker 2:

That sounds good to me. One thing I'm going to do after the music fades out, I think I found the podcast episode of The Whistler. It's episode 252, The Lady and the Knife. It's on a different platform here, but I'm going to try playing it after the music to see if we can hear it.

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the time stamp that you were trying to save for yourself yeah it looked like it happens it looked

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like by the time i got the time stamp saved it looked like it was like about two and a half minutes in but i don't know how long it took me to fumble around to get that screenshot so i'm going to start this about 30 seconds in and hopefully not play any modern commercials because what people do is they take these classic radio shows that are i think public domain they put them in podcast feeds but then they kind of load them up I don't know.

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the front and back end with just really crappy Carvana ads. They drive you happy. Anyway, you're going to hear some weird audio after the show. Great, I'm going to stick around for that. That's what it is. See if we can identify what I heard last night or if I was just out of my gosh darn gore.

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I'm actually excited. I usually, you know, second we're done recording, I'm out. Yeah, I know. But today I'm going to stick around to hear this Easter egg. All right, that is going to bring us to the end of today's episode and to the end of our broadcast week. But we will be right back here on Monday with more Imaginary Radio. I get to be home finally, which I'm very excited about. Me and my records. And the Madrona Hill Studio. Exciting times. So we'll see you all on Monday for that. In the meantime, have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves. Go Mariners. And please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

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I am the whistler. And I know many things, for I walk by night. I know many strange tales hidden in the hearts of men and women who have stepped into the shadows. Yes, I know the nameless terrors of which they dare not speak.

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Yes, friends, it's time for the show. the signal oil program the whistler rated by independent research the most popular west coast program in the history of radio oh i think that was it in gasoline you know it takes extra quality to go farther and signal is the famous go farther gasoline power out

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