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All right, hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Tuesday edition of TBTL, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It's a kind of magic. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host.

Another day, another victory for the OG, taking down the sweats, the impostors among us.

Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the very foggy Columbia River today. Cloud fog. Totally enveloped in fog up here at the studio, which is kind of cozy in a way. It's April 1st, April Fool's Day. I cannot believe he just told that joke. We will not be participating in any April foolishness here on this program. We would never, never do that on episode 4,435 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. If you grew up in the Northwest like I did, traveling up and down Interstate 5, you are aware of that Uncle Sam sign that's in Napa Vine, technically, I guess. You know, the conservative sign that's been up for, I don't know, 30, 40 years. What's the symbology there? There's a chance it might finally go away, which I think would be kind of great. We'll dig into that. Also, if you were to travel north on I-5, not far from that sign, well, maybe an hour or so, you'd run into the Emerald Queen Casino, the entertainment capital of the Northwest. And they've got a new ad that's got me and Andrew annoyed.

Is this a thing people care about? No.

We will not let that stop us. We will play you the ad coming up here in a moment. Speaking of my good friend, Andrew Walsh, longest running co-bro of the show, may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He pinged me this morning early and said, when I introduce him, can I use his new nickname, which is Nice Mr. Seed. And he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

I wanted you to call me Colonel Mustard. There was a mistake there.

By the way, another prominently featured character at the Mustard Museum. Lots of Colonel Mustard ephemera around.

Hey, that actually is kind of related to what I want to tell you at the top of the show, because I saw a post on social media yesterday. It was on Blue Sky. And the only connection to Mustard is I'm pretty sure the brand that was posted or the brand posting this thing was Heinz, which, of course, makes mustard.

I guess that feels that feels out of their lane to me I'm pretty sure they're the ones who signed DJ mustard to the they probably I'm sure you're right they did I'm just so I'm just so focusing

on the ketchup portion of their portfolio sure no I mean a lot of people do but um you'd be missing out on so much but I don't care about that I was gonna say they did it was kind of late last night somebody reposted this and I think it was from check this out Heinz Beans luke i'm pretty sure beans not bees bees beans i think that they tweeted out and i could be wrong about the actual brand but i'm pretty sure heinz beans posted bees bees something that said we are we are not going to lie to you tomorrow that is our promise and then somebody reposted that and said yes everybody just be cool more of this please and it took me a while to figure out why Heinz was saying, we're not going to lie to you tomorrow. And then I realized, oh, yeah, today is April 1st. There was a time in the in the legacy of the Internet when this was the biggest. This was a high holiday. Yes. Everybody's dropped it now. Right. In 2025. Have you seen any kind of foolishness on April Fool's Day? It's done. Right.

I didn't see much this morning, thankfully. a

But I was also on the Ascendant social media. I'm going to keep saying that until it's true. Platform Blue Sky this morning. And I was just scrolling. And I also had forgotten it was April 1st. And then I saw a guy on there. There's absolutely no winning with me, is the takeaway from what I'm about to say. Somebody on there, I don't think I follow them, just said like, well, welcome to officially the most annoying day to be on the internet. And then I was annoyed with him for posting that. And then I just got off of Blue Sky because I was like, that seems... Which, side note, is probably a version of something that we've said a million times. In other words, we're not into the April Fool's spoofs. But then something about somebody else just kind of being like, okay, welcome to the most annoying day on the internet. That annoyed me, but I also didn't want to get hit with any spoofs. And then I just consciously uncoupled from Blue Sky and social media at that point. So I haven't seen anything, but I could very much imagine, Andrew, that not April Fooling is the new April Fooling.

I certainly hope so. One thing that bothers me here, though, is because I wanted to fact check myself. Now, I didn't fall for an April Fool's joke, per se, but I did fall for a misleading handle. This is not the first time this has happened to me on this show. This is just somebody who is funny online who goes by the handle Heinz Beans. This was not the official account of Heinz. Now that I say that, I don't even know if Heinz makes beans, and I'm a little bit mad at myself right now.

I was curious what Heinz beans, what, yeah, like if there was a ketchup bean that I didn't find out about when I was reporting on that.

Yeah, you reported on Heinz, just, you didn't do a bean story that I know of.

No, no, no, I just mean I didn't, I was in a tomato field in Central California, I didn't see any beans. I was wondering what the Heinz beans, when I thought that was a real account or an actual Heinz account, when you just mentioned it, I was wondering what the beans thing was.

Well, they do make baked beans. I'm looking at this now. Oh, yeah, yeah, good point. Heinz does make baked beans in a can, but this was not the official baked beans of Heinz who was saying they weren't going to fool us. It was just somebody who I guess is a, I guess, enthusiast for the product. Prankster. So much so that they named themselves after it. But I do believe the post was earnest, just saying, listen, I'm a gullible person. I would prefer nobody lie to me. I'm not going to lie to you tomorrow. Let's all just be cool. And I just really liked that as as a new way of going forward into this beautiful month.

Well, I think the larger question remains, though, which is from these corporate accounts, because most of these corporate accounts are now run by, I would say, young people, but they're probably in their 30s themselves. Back when it was like Wendy's was talking about give me the nugs. Yeah, it seemed like they had, you know, young children running these things. But, you know, there is a real sort of, I don't know, you could say kind of fraternity or sorority or camaraderie of some of these huge brands. And then again, they're social media teams and they tend to kind of jump onto the same. They're as influenced by trends as anyone is. And I could see the trend for like, let's just again, this hypothetical person's 28 years old and they're the social media person for, you know, Wendy's or one of these other companies are Heinz beans. and their boss is like, okay, what are we doing for April Fool's? And they're going, actually, that's not really what cool social media accounts are doing anymore is writing something that's patently false to get the likes because we've moved on. Now the cool thing is to say you're not doing that. I could see that being, as I said, not spoofing is the new spoofing.

Yeah, back when I was a young adult and just early in my career in public radio And just early in my infatuation with public radio, in fact, this might even – no, I don't think this would predate my time as an employee of public radio. But very early on in that relationship, I remember, all things considered, they were famous for doing fake stories and just slipping them in there very dryly, very drolly. And the first one that I remember was the slow – oh, yeah, I must have been well into my career at this point. But it was the slow internet movement. Do you remember that story on ATC? Yeah, it was when everything was like the slow this movement, the slow that movement. I believe it was like, I don't know, probably even the ATC crew that you and I kind of grew up with. It was probably like Noah Adams or something doing a very dry introduction to a story about people who, you know, young hipsters who are just like the Internet is too fast these days. And it was chock-a-block with that old Internet dial-up sound or whatever. It was a pretty good spoof. I mean, back then it wasn't oversaturated.

Melissa Block reported for NPR's All Things Considered. I bet you she was reading the intro. Oh, yeah, I must be wrong.

I guess I got a lot of that wrong.

No, no, no, no. It was 2011.

Yeah, still not super early. Slow internet movement.

And what I'm trying to figure out is the piece itself. This is where I'm going to take it from mildly interesting to deeply uninteresting. I'm on hoaxes.org. I couldn't find it at the npr.org site, but hoaxes.org is citing it as an April Fool's joke. But they're saying, Melissa Block.

reported for NPR's All Things Considered about the slow internet movement, which was a rapidly growing in hipster enclaves such as Portland, Oregon and Autumna, Iowa. Now, this is where my brain goes. Was it actually a Melissa Block piece? Was it like a cut and copy, as we used to call it, where Melissa Block is reading a script and then they're playing fake tape? Or was Melissa Block just the person reading the intro and then handing it off to a reporter who did the joking? You know what I mean?

I got a lot of that wrong. My memory was her Reading into a package that a reporter Had but I could be very wrong

That could be the case This is where my brain now fixates A lot of times people who don't What are they called? Normal people A lot of times normal people If they were like oh I heard that story on All Things Considered Who did the story and they would be like Oh it was Melissa Block And abnormal people like me would be like No no no Melissa Block was hosting All Things Considered She read The Lead Spelled L-E-D-E because let's just get as pedantic as we can. And then some other reporter did the piece, but because Melissa Block read the intro. Now, in this case, she may have also read the piece itself, but I get hung up on that kind of stuff because I feel like it may or may not have been a Melissa Block story. It may have just been something, and Melissa is a friend of mine, and I'm a fan of her work. There's no shade on her, but I'm curious if the Museum of Hoaxes got this exactly right.

Well, okay, I'm going to make things even more complicated here. Oh, wait, yeah, this was too... Because I thought I couldn't find the original audio on NPR anymore, and I wondered if they had scrubbed their old April Fool's fake stories in the era of a lot of fake news actually happening and people not knowing what to believe. But it seems like I might have it here. And there's a – so I see here that on NPR I can play for you their follow-up story, which was them reacting to emails from listeners about it. But I think this is the real thing. This says April 1st, 2011, I think.

On the program, we heard about Google's choice of Kansas City, Kansas as the winner of its ultra-fast fiber optic network.

By the way, this is a long story. I'm willing to go all in on this. I don't think that. I mean, you tell me when to stop. All in with Andrew Walsh.

You tell me when. That's got a ring to it.

You tell me when to kill this. Work.

It promises Internet access more than 100 times faster than home broadband. Well, today we explore a movement that's bucking the trend toward ultra-fast.

I love the way we are now the ones doing April Fool's stories.

I know. I started the show by saying there'll be no April Foolishness on today's episode. And what we're doing is playing a piece from 13 to 14 years ago. I guess 14 if we're doing the math.

Yeah, all right. Well, sorry.

People who revel in getting back to a slower pace online, much slower. If we're all now speeding down the information superhighway, consider...

So it is a Melissa Block cut and copy. Okay, so I'm sorry, Museum of Hoaxes.

Well, this is six minutes long, and the credit, it looks like it's going to Becca Grimm, unless Becca Grimm is somebody who just wrote it up online. I'm not sure. Let's see where this goes.

This, a detour onto a bumpy country road. Coffee.

Enjoy it slowly.

At the coffeehouse Drip here in Washington, they specialize in hand pours, each cup of Burundian buzira guhinda individually crafted. Drip's owner is 33-year-old Hunter Fantuzzi.

We really focus on slow coffee, slow internet, slow everything, really.

No, you're clearly right. Becca Grimm must have just been the person who wrote this up. This is clearly a cut and copy. Can I get two hours of dial-up?

DRIP is just one outpost of what its practitioners call the slow Internet movement. You'll find coffee houses like this one offering dial-up only in hipster enclaves in Portland, Oregon, Williamsburg, Brooklyn, Otomwa, Iowa. DRIP enforces a strict no-smartphone policy. They've lined their walls with lead to block wireless signals. Instead, they offer dial-up at 28.8 leisurely kilobits per second. Order dial-up, and Drip will activate one of the many phone jacks lining the brick walls here, 99 cents an hour.

I don't think that anyone who's ever bought Internet time here has spent less than four hours, and that's just checking email.

People say that the fun part of dating is the chase. And I realized that that was how I felt about the gathering of information.

That's Drip regular Sadie Goldberg-Patel. I found her hunched over her vintage 1987 K-Pro2 portable computer, waiting to connect.

Now, when I'm waiting for the internet to load up, I get butterflies.

And those butterflies. I think they do a great job with some of the details of this story, the descriptions of the coffee shop and everything. The one thing, now, I've had 14 years to think about this story as being untrue.

will say the one thing that sort of gives it up a little bit are is the acting in oh i was gonna

say i thought the acting was pretty good again because you know it's like so production in turn

yeah yeah no it's probably it's certainly better than i could do goldfish so yeah i'm not trying to i'm not trying to throw stones there but if i'm like listening very critically i'm like yeah

this is this is funny how subjective these things are i guess i was expecting it to be the acting to be worse yeah whatever that means sure yeah no um and like i was also i was expecting to hear some npr person that i know from the background of whatever like leo delagula being one of the voices or some engineer some kind of off-air person and um so i i that it's it's exceeding my expectations from a um from an acting standpoint but but also i could see how it might not be you know it's not going to win an obi award or anything but i'll i'll let that i'll let that

lie there i think this goes on for another few minutes it's we're only two minutes into a six minute story i think it ends up becoming a story about how the the lead singer of okay go has created a pro dial-up anthem which must take up the rest of the story i mean i i give them credit

like that was my friend robert smith is a fellow public radio veteran used to say i think with i don't even think this is uh damning with faint praise this is damning with the faintest of praise he would sometimes be doing something on like rewind and he'd be like that's funny for public radio or whatever like like the whole idea of the standard of what humor on public radio is is so different than in other places like of like if i watch something on netflix that was as humorous as as what we just heard or as humorous as wait wait a show that i'm on sometimes i'd probably be like this is a this is a little down home this is a little slow paced if certainly the old version of a prairie home companion if the sponsored by powder milk biscuits like there's a whole just category of like funny by public radio standards and i think that this exceeds that i think i think i think this is pretty good by public radio standards in the humor department um i wonder and not we don't have to jump forward to april 5th because i believe that i was seeing the same internet listings of of them responding to the emails but like i wonder how people took this like i wonder if i'm i'm guessing that that the responses they read were people that were saying I, I enjoyed your piece about, you know, I doubt anybody was up in arms about it because what they, what they did, I would say wisely here is they picked a topic that's so meaningless. Like I always bring this up. I believe it was almost live, which was the kind of local sketch comedy show in Seattle that used to come on before Saturday night live. When I was growing up, I grew up in the only city in America where Saturday night live started at midnight local. They bumped it by a half hour to make room for almost live. and Almost Live famously in the Seattle area did, I think it was an April Fool's sketch where they said the space needle had tipped over and the whole like observation deck was like rolling down. I don't know if it was Fifth Avenue or Broad Street or something. And I think it caused a genuine panic. So what the NPR folks understood is pick a topic where there's no potential for loss of life. Also, I would probably go to one of these cafes if they existed. That's the thing, Andrew. Like, you know me, I'm always trying to use external circumstances to fix my internal problems. And like the idea that there's a coffee shop that I could go to where they basically confiscate my phone like I'm at a Dave Chappelle workout show. And then there's no internet because they've lined the walls with lead. And I would just be forced to be in there with my thoughts. Like that's actually appealing to me as a concept. There's something about this

whole thing that, I mean, I know that I'm being, I'm a little bit bummed up myself for getting the timeline so wrong i remember this as being a much more earlier story but of course as i was describing it to you i realized that couldn't be the case because when i was new in public radio the internet was this is still the slow internet movement by necessity um but even still 2011 i'm solidly into my adulthood at this point i've already moved out to seattle and i've been living here for a couple of years so i don't even know where i was when i first heard this story having said that this still makes me nostalgic for some sort like i'm not somebody who this all started with me saying i don't like april fool's day and i really don't but the fact that npr could just do this that even in 2011 when things were still you know things were getting a little things were getting a little itchy politically in this country but it was still a safe enough plays for the folks at uh atc to like spend some real production time to do a six minute block on atc for just a harmless fun silly little joke i don't think there's any chance anybody in npr is putting false stories out there into the into the water supply these days in 10 hands do it yeah i

know you absolutely it would be it would be a you know it would it would be asking for trouble in the worst way, which is, you know, of the many, many things of about our current world and our current country that are just beyond depressing it's pretty low on the list oh yeah but it's on the list it just reminds yeah i'm not even saying on the list i'm

not even saying i wish and to be very clear it's not a wish of mine that all things considered could go back to doing april fool's day jokes i don't care about that in fact i prefer that they don't having said that i'm just the old april fool's day it just makes me nostalgic for the time that that was acceptable in some way because of everything else it says about that part of our

well exactly like that the idea that it's so it's like public broadcasting is hanging by such a thread right now and that the fact that for them to put out an obvious joke story would very much probably lead to even more grief for them and maybe their their cancellation or something it's just it's just so depressing it's so it's like we don't want it back but the idea that it could literally end public radio as we know it if you put up a story about slow internet cafes that was just a stupid April Fool's joke is rough. Let's move off of that if we can, and on to this Netflix show that I watched the first two episodes last night that's getting a ton of attention. I'm guessing you've been hearing about it too. Adolescence? Genevieve mentioned it to me, but I haven't been following it closely. The reason that it's getting so much attention is because each episode, Andrew, they're like an hour long. And so basically it's a very – it's kind of an intense British crime show about a murder that goes on and I think a 13-year-old boy who's arrested for the murder and trying to figure out what really happened and who did what. Each episode is one shot.

That's right. That's what Phoebs was saying. And it's a real shot. This is what I was trying to get to the bottom of. It's a real one shot. It's not like that movie 1914 where it seems like it's one shot.

But the director, Stephen Graham, who's the adult star of it, and I think one of the – I read an interview with one of the cinematographers in Variety. So, like, last night I watched this, and then I just immediately got on my computer to try to solve the mystery of, like, did they really do this in one shot? Like, how? What? And they're all saying it was one shot and that sometimes they would mess up and they'd have to start over. They'd be like They'd be 35 minutes into the episode And then like Somebody like this The guy that I was reading interviewed in Variety Was like I came around a corner and I bumped into a wall With my camera And there was no fixing it And they were using something called a Ronin Which is funnily enough a camera we use for CBS all the time And it's on a gimbal It is incredible the camera technology now Andrew For some of these things And these gimbals are like It's like a steadicam essentially but you hold the whole thing in your hand like one of the things this this cinematographer was saying was they had to figure out how to shoot this on cameras that were light enough that someone could hold the camera for an hour you know like there's just a million considerations and the other thing is like so the the first the first episode it starts with these two uh british police officers or detectives rather are like sitting in their car waiting to basically for the like i'm just going to use the term swat team whatever they called in england they're basically sitting in their car waiting for the SWAT team to show up to basically kick down the door and go in this house and arrest this kid and you start with these cops or detectives in their car and then you go down the street with them this is all real time dude it's crazy the door gets kicked in you go in with them they get the kid out of there they take the kid they put the kid in the in the van uh they're talking to the kid they're going to the police station they come out of the van all of this it's all one shot there is never a cut and there's never like a i was looking very carefully for like a secret edit point somewhere where the camera moves in a way that you could have just now what they do do at sometimes is they switch camera so at in the second episode they go from this final scene where they're at this school and and these kids are walking around and then it's it's somehow they then the camera is a drone and it's but it's weird it's not like a fade it's not like it goes from one camera where it like blends into another camera you at some point they somehow seamlessly shift from a handheld camera to a drone because the drone flies up and over to a different location. So I don't know if you consider that an edit or not, but it's totally seamless. You would never understand. It's as if they were filming the whole episode with a drone that just then goes over to this other place. I don't know how they did it. I will say this. For me, the first episode I thought was very taught in a good way. It was very well acted and very intense. And insane that they're doing this all in one take. That no one can mess up no one can forget their line no one can look into the camera like no one can like the choreography of all the people doing the camera work must be insane like when we're shooting

something a cyber security thing for a major software concern on the east side that i'm in it's really hard like if there's a background actor supposed to walk behind me like

I'm going here, they're going there, and then I'm going to say this. It'll take us an hour to get that right. I am looking at this drone shot thing, trying to get to the bottom of it. And again, by the way, I have a lot of questions about this that I'm worried are going to sound a little bit like haterade. And I don't mean it to be like it sounds like so far you've seen the show. Genevieve has seen the show. Some friends I had brunch with on Saturday had seen the show. And everybody's saying good things. So I just have questions, though. You're just asking questions. I'm just asking questions. I don't personally care if it's legitimately one shot or if it just appears to be one shot, because I don't know how to say this. Like, I'm I'm nerdy enough to appreciate it when you see it in movies. Like, I remember seeing the movie The Player for the first time and just being like, seriously, this is still going on. I can't remember how long that shot is. It's like, is it a full 10 minutes, seven minutes or whatever? It's one of the most famous, like one shots in cinema history. And like, I get a kick out of that, you know, but that was also the 90s. Right. And now, and by the way, I misspoke before. I guess the movie is 1917, which I had not seen, not 1914. 1914 might have been a video game I played on NES. Or no, that was 1943. That was the one with the big old bomber, right? You could drop those bombs. Yes, they had 42 and 43. Yeah, I used to see that through Arcade. Exactly.

It was usually on a double machine with something I thought was called Zadius, but I think it was Gradius or something. It had like a really weird script. Okay, I'm sorry.

Yeah, I think I can picture that, too, because I think it was Konami, right? Those Konami machines. Anyway, so all of that is to say, that movie, 1917, also had the feel, apparently, and I've never seen it, of being all one shot, right?

Is that a Nolan thing? I don't think so.

I can't kind of talk and Google it at the same time. I'm already messing up too much. I already called it 1914, but I'm pretty sure it was a World War I movie that kind of appeared to be all in one shot. It's Sam Mendes. Oh, yeah, right. But they said, like, it's not literally one camera the whole time, and that's fine. They were using it because it's the best way to tell their story. That's great. That's fine. In this particular case, I'm just curious because it says here, I'm reading from The Independent, and the subject line is how Netflix's new show pulled off the impossible drone shot. Impossible in quotes there. And it says, the magic of the scene has since been revealed by the writer, Jack Thorne, who told Deadline, so we strapped a camera to a drone that took off over traffic lights and then suddenly you're at the murder scene. emotionally it kicks you in the stomach but it sounds like attaching it to they must have stopped down for that moment to attach it to the drone right and then then made it seamless in editing it wasn't like the the camera flew out of the person's hand after well that yeah that for a

half hour that part was yeah there's i i'm a little confused about about how it all worked but what i do believe to be the case from reading a bunch about last night was that it was the case That Any of these episodes And that is to say They said that they shot every episode Like maybe ten times So imagine each one is Imagine each one is an hour long play They shot I don't remember how many episodes Maybe it's four episodes or something I've only watched two Let's imagine each one is a one hour play They shot each one maybe ten times First of all they rehearsed it Meticulously as you would imagine like to a crazy degree basically the guy the folks making the the film the director and the and the cinematographer they would go to the screenwriter that guy jack thorne that you were mentioning and they would basically say like okay we're looking at the script and the when this person there's it doesn't make sense for the camera to go from this thing to that thing we have to create a motivation for it yeah so you have to rewrite the scene or rewrite that part of the scene so that a character decides to go down to get a cup of coffee at the police station which then brings them brings the camera to that place like so the amount of coordination and again i i particularly the second episode which happens at like a i think it's like i can't tell how old british kids are i think it's a middle school i can't somewhere between three and 30 it's somewhere between the cradle and the grave um i think it's yeah i think it may be a middle school maybe a high school anyway it's at a school and honestly i don't i'm not blown away by the writing or acting of the second episode like it's a little melodramatic in fact the the the the drone scene that we've been talking about it's it's a little mystic river for me it's like without giving away too much it's like this drone goes from the school to you've already mentioned the scene of the crime where there's flowers that are laid and as it's traveling down this street it's like a children's choir is singing like it's a little like the content of this show to me uh and i haven't gotten to the third episode yet but it's i don't i don't i let me put it this way if they did not do the single shot thing i would not be

nearly as intrigued by this it would feel a little more kind of middle of the road you know again it's got powerful mystic river vibrations yeah um but the other thing i'll say you were talking

about that i actually clean one thing up though because i i would i have messed this up by fumbling around i'm hearing about it for the first time i'm asking questions that my ass can't answer

and um i was asking about please continue answering primarily with your mouth we'll try

we'll effort that uh no but i just while you were talking there i was also watching with the sound off a behind the scenes of that particular shot just because i was so curious how are they doing this what did happen what have you found out they developed some sort of a drone or they acquired or developed some sort of a drone thing that can grab the camera and what they do is i was just watching it there there is the camera person who is like holding the camera and running around i think chasing a kid or something the camera's sort of chasing the kid and then like three tech people have this big drone thing that is like kind of you know flat and wide and it's like three people i think taking it and then they kind of attach it to the camera how does that happen without the camera jostling i don't know but here's what i want to say though because that was really impressive to see but what you're getting at here and again i'm really not trying to spill haterate all over the place but what you're getting at here is my fundamental question about all of this is it again does it is it a gimmick or does it serve the purpose of the show and is

it like saying Andrew it's serving okay as the young people would say they're saying oh he served

like it's like well yes this it's like did you have any friends in the 80s who would have been really really impressed if somebody came out on stage and there were three necks on a guitar or maybe even four necks on a guitar and you'd be like yeah but the music isn't really for me but your friend's like yeah but look at that guitar man it slays i'm sort of like a little bit like well is it a good show and this is the best way to tell it or is it like oh we really want to play with our toys and the show it doesn't really it's not really necessary i do have one friend who was pretty obsessed with that the man who brought the rock and roll eggs to the eagles oh don fingers Felder? Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot you guys went to school together. He's clearly in the driver's seat.

No, here's what I'll say. It serves the entertainment, entertainment's a weird word to use when it's such a serious and kind of grim show, but it absolutely serves the purpose of the show. As the viewer, that's why, to me, it wouldn't have mattered, it wouldn't matter if this was, like you said, that movie 1917, if it was very cleverly constructed so it had that feel, But they actually, you know, had some edit points built in so that they didn't like get to the 39th minute of filming and then just like somebody bumps into a wall and they're like, shit, let's go back to, you know, the first scene. so it very much it very much keeps you as the viewer really really um engaged because you have a very ground level view of the whole thing and another thing that if i remember right reading this interview with the cinematographer or whomever it was i think he might have been the camera person and the cinema a camera person and cinematographer so he was kind of doing both things and talking a lot about the technical aspects of the camera work but like um uh they didn't want it to be like super shaky either like because sometimes if you're like a blair witch project type of deal like what you i could totally see a conversation where it's like okay this is going to be really gritty and really like no artifice and therefore the camera can be like jostling around and like it can be it can become pulling in out of focus and like that's just going to be it's going to be verite like in the extreme yeah that's not what this looks like yeah it looks like a beautiful single camera shoot that somehow just never friggin cuts you know and okay i'll tell you like this is the one thing about it that is a little bit this is when i started to become a little bit less excited about it that there's a i'm not giving anything away particularly but basically like this entire it would appear that this show is a commentary on the incel movement and they literally name check andrew tate and like i think that's their version of being very relevant to the culture and of pointing out something that is extremely toxic which is uh you know toxic masculinity to the degree that the insult movement is a coherent ideology and group of people but it's like it something about this idea of what you want about communism dude no

that's not it is it it's socialism i knew i was gonna i interrupted you and i messed up the line from Lebowski oh when when who says that isn't that um I interrupted you and I can't even hold up the the thing that I broke it it's um it's John Goodman's character say what you want about socialism dude sorry man Any excuse to revisit that character?

Yeah, any, any, what's his name, by the way?

It's, his name is, his name is John Goodman.

His name is John Goodman. Let me just see.

F***ing Nazis. They were Nazis, dude? Oh, come on, Donnie. They were threatening castration. Uh-huh. Are we going to split hairs here? No. Am I wrong?

Well, he didn't. Man, they were nihilists, man.

Huh?

They kept saying they believed in nothing.

Nihilists. F*** me. i mean say what you want about the tenets of national socialism dude at least it's an ethos

okay at least that contained the audio that i really think he's referring i think what he's

saying national socialism that's a reference back to the nazis right because weren't they oh weren't they i think that's right yeah yeah maybe i don't know i'm not sure what's it what's

his character's name it's gonna bother me something chick uh lobe chick uh did i get close

John Goodman Lebowski

This is awful, you were in the middle of a thought Walter Sobchek Sobchek, right What did I say? I think I said it perfectly I don't think I said anything incorrect I think you were pretty close

Don't you be mean to my friend Andrew

At least it's an ethos

All this is to say I don't know If by the end of this, I don't know If I'll be as intrigued By the plot as I am by the just masterful way that they did this but it definitely makes it more interesting to me and I'm definitely going to watch the next episode probably tonight or something probably tonight when the Mariners have been eliminated from the postseason I'll tune over

they're statistically out of it already well the thing is

their tragic number is two if they lose two more games they're statistically eliminated

but the thing is if you're watching Root Sports Luke you're not watching for the baseball you're watching for the eqc casino commercial oh man what a transition are you not andrew you know

what that's a single this is a single shot today's show absolutely no edit points seamless you masterfully masterfully moved us into the next part of the conversation which is of course uh yesterday was the first time that i actually was able to watch seattle mariners on my television here at home with my fubo system and a couple of things i don't want to get into the deep weeds of that that i was boring you through text message with this just afternoon but what i figured out was when i was talking about my price going up the other day it was because fubo thought i lived in new york because i went on to the website from my laptop when i was in new york city and it literally somehow changed my uh zip code in my settings that is so bananas i know that you i

know you said you don't you don't want to go into too much detail and i i uh i agree with that but i do want to say in principle when i think it was off air that when you were talking about getting this no no you know i think it was even before we dialed up on that day where you talked about getting this note saying your um your price was going up pretty significantly you had texted me about it in the morning and i remember my initial reaction being like how is this not rippling across all of the mariners chatter that i follow yeah like what and i'm googling like fubo root sports price going up and the only thing i got was a few people complaining about it in a subreddit but that subreddit was based in new york and you said and again this was all off air you're like maybe the system thinks i moved to new york because i'm here on business which seemed like a strange thing but it turns out that's exactly what happened that's yeah what is going on with

technology it's too smart it's outsmarted itself meep meep i i like i yesterday at about i don't know four or five i was like getting ready kind of like you were for actual opening day like i was like okay i've got the game i'm gonna watch it tonight and then i was like well i better figure out how to watch this through my overpriced fubo system because i'm not gonna go get a roku and run a power cable and do a whole floppy disk and all that so i was like let me just let me just see what the deal is with fubo and i go on to fubo and it it literally doesn't know i'm doing the search thing it doesn't know there's a thing called the seattle mariners i'm putting in mariners nothing i'm putting in root sports i'm getting many versions of the alex haley classic roots i am getting no this system has trying to protect you yeah it doesn't look like anything to me i mean maybe and maybe i should have trusted it because so then i then i kind of go on like some reddits kind of going like i can't you know it's like search terms are like i'm in the northwest with fubo it doesn't won't locate root sports or something and finally there's some mention there about like maybe you got to change your zip code and i was like oh yeah that does think i'm in the one zero zero one nine or something which is new york so i went into my account and i changed it to the account of the zip code of the madrona hill studio and immediately root sports pops up it's amazing and also my my my overpriced fubo drops from 131 to like 117 or something whatever i texted you yesterday so there was a seven you

said but that's 27 that's not four dollars of saving but it's not an increase though right you said you've been paying 127 this whole time because you yes we always say fubo's 80 a month But you think that you probably signed up, as I said, for like the Cadillac of Fubo or something? Okay, so we can kind of put all of that price raising and price gouging stuff a little bit out of the conversation. Because it is basically, you could still probably watch the Mariners for about $80 a month were you to choose that package.

Probably so. And in fact, I might see about going down to that package for this time of year. If I get my MSNBC and I get my Mariners, I'm good. I don't need anything extra over and above that. Now, when football season comes back around, I feel like whatever I signed up for was to make sure I could get all of the NFL that I could eat. But all that is to say, all that is to say, I was I was able to watch the Mariners game yesterday. And it couldn't have been on for more than five or ten minutes when I see one of these Emerald Queen casino ads pop up. And now we've you know, we've been obsessing over the ads that they're running for Don Felder. By the way, he is still yet to play there. that is still in the future may something right now still being promoted heavily on the mariners

broadcast and can i not to step on you setting this up but it's i think this that ties in directly here because this is they've turned this into a single eqc casino commercial that always begins with a quick 15 second cut of the don felder you know upcoming performance commercial and then it

leads directly into this next performer so we've been making fun of the like a little bit maybe hokey or whatever the don felder ad is which does of course feature this little gem the man who brought the rock and roll edge to the eagles and um there is this thing going on with the eqc where they're you know they're pummeling the northwest airwaves be they radio or television or fubo or whatever it is with ads for their upcoming performances but it would seem that they've they've made some bad decisions in the interest of timing where they like the giggle squad one that's apparently a very popular podcast but because they needed to fit it into like 15 seconds it was a kind of an incomplete joke if i remember right yeah it didn't really make sense it sounded like absolute nonsense and now there seems to be a new one which is for this comedian that It's named Michael Blaustein, who's coming to the Emerald Queen Casino. And I know that you and Genevieve noted this when it came out. A listener noted it.

Yeah. So why don't you play it, and then I'll tell you about my interaction. Oh, okay. I think you've got it. You want to play it from my end? Yeah, no, I can play it. So this is it. So imagine this. You're watching the Mariners game. You're sort of weeping a little bit. Not too much, because it's early in the season, but you're seeing some familiar patterns, and it's kind of killing you. But that's okay. Now comes a nice little break, and it's a commercial break, and you've watched Don Fingersfelder. He's coming to the EQC, and then they roll directly into this.

It's comedy night at Emerald Queen Casino Event Center, Sunday, May 4th, with Michael Blaustein. My gym costs $9 a month. Don't miss this hilarious high-energy show, Michael Blaustein, May 4th.

My gym costs $9 a month. Veeves and I saw that. We lost our shit. We started laughing so hard. just like where's the is that where's the rest of the joke Genevieve keeps yelling every time we see it she's like it's not a bad setup it's not a bad setup but that is not a joke you can't just put that in your commercial and say I'm now coming to the EQC to hear this guy and then I believe it was maybe it was on opening day or the day after opening day I got a random text message from a listener I have no idea who this is they're coming from the 253 area code they've never texted before they just texted my gym costs nine dollars a month hashtag eqc and i was like oh my god we're speaking the same language and they're like i'm thrilled that you got that reference my co-10 thought it was a stretch no we're all dialed into this listener it was like all dialed in it

it was like we all looked up at a beam of light shot into the sky and we all were in different places and we stopped we were doing it we looked at it if you see this is really hard to read i texted myself last night luke's new favorite eqc at michael blaustein quote my gym cost dot dot dot

nine dollars a month now i i have a i have a question for you and i don't know if this sort of ruins the bit but i was looking for this tape today and i also found as is often the case the full 30 second version of this commercial because clearly what happens and you see this in all kinds of commercials but usually just not so terribly I don't know. But you'll see, you know, they'll make a commercial that is a minute or even 30 seconds and then continue to cut it down shorter and shorter for different platforms, different time slots, whatever. The version of this commercial that is living online is 30 seconds long and you hear the payoff for the joke. And I have a specific question for you about this. OK, so let's listen to the full thing as God intended it.

It's comedy night at Emerald Queen Casino Event Center, Sunday, May 4th with Michael Blaustein.

My gym costs $9 a month. Guys, I go to the gym for the same price as an airport muffin.

Tickets at EmeraldQueen.com.

So I'm obviously single.

Don't miss this hilarious high-energy show. Michael Blaustein.

The I'm obviously single is another just statement. That one doesn't have a payoff even in the long version. But my question for you, though, Luke, is is it legal to be this insane? Is it legal to be this insane? How about you drive your laser car off a laser cliff? Is it legal to be this insane? When you hear the long version of that, now you put yourself in the editing booth and you know that you're doing hatchet jobs on this. I know whoever is doing this hates what they're doing. They're like, this is not how it should be, but we just got to get this stuff out there. Wouldn't you at least take the second half of the joke? Wouldn't the My Gym cost the same amount as an airport muffin? That stands on its own slightly better, right? Yeah. Absolutely. It's not great, but you probably don't get a full segment on TBTL if you choose that one.

Also, can you – hold on. Can you play the full tape? I want to do some forensics here. I've got my stopwatch out. Okay, you ready? A.K. my telephone. Okay. And, yeah, can you just play it from the top?

It's comedy night at Emerald Queen Casino Event Center. Sunday, May 4th, with Michael Blaustein.

My gym costs $9 a month. Guys, I go to the gym for the same price as an airport muffin.

Tickets at emeraldqueen.com.

So, I'm obviously single.

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I was wondering if the so obviously I'm single is long enough that if you lost so obviously I'm single, you could add back in. You could complete the thought about the gym.

You know, but the single version, but the single joke isn't in the 15 second version. It's not. No, no. The single, the 15 second version only has one clip of the comedian and it's him saying, can you play the 15 second version? Yeah, exactly. But I'm onto something else here, though.

It's Comedy Night at Emerald Queen Casino Event Center, Sunday, May 4th, with Michael Blaustein. My gym costs $9 a month. Don't miss this hilarious high-energy show. Michael Blaustein, May 4th at Emerald Queen Casino.

See, what you could do is you don't need the announcer saying high energy and everything. I'm going to play. Okay, this is the last time. I'm hitting play. I can't hear this too much, honestly. I am hitting play on the 30-second version, on the full long version. But then I'm going to stop it myself where the commercial could come to a clean end. Yes. You ready for this? Yes.

It's comedy night at Emerald Queen Casino Event Center. Sunday, May 4th with Michael Blaustein. My gym costs $9 a month. Don't miss this hilarious high-energy show. Michael Blaustein, May 4th at Emerald Queen Casino.

That's exactly 15 seconds where I stopped it. Oh, yeah. That's the cut. You leave the whole joke in there, tickets at Emerald Queen Casino. You don't need the, like, don't miss out on this high-energy performance by a guy you've never heard of.

Yes, absolutely. Is it too late to get a hold of whoever is cutting these things for EQC and show them the way? Show them the way, the truth, and the light. That's such a better edit. All you're losing is kind of pukey pablab, and you get the complete joke in, which show, don't tell. Give us the best version of Michael Blaustein. I cannot remember how to say this guy's last name. I think it's Stein, I think. Give us the best representation of Michael Blaustein. Don't make his joke into nonsense or an incomplete thought so that you can create enough time for the guy to talk over the thing because that's not going to make me more likely to go to the show. I need a solid joke from Mikey B.

That's right. Let him speak for himself. His comedy stands on its own. That's right. I'm with you. Let me ask you this. Do you think if I spend this summer going to the EQC YouTube page and taking all of the long 30-second versions they have and doing my own 15-second edits on spec, and then I march down to the EQC casino, I'll drive down there, I go down there. It's a pretty far march. Yeah, exactly.

have all of my digital clips on a thumb drive and I go in I say listen I've been chopping down I can do this job better than whoever you have on staff right now and hopefully I'm not talking to the person who has that job do you think I can talk my way into a lucrative career at EQC being the

man who cuts these it's a classic it's a classic origin story I feel like this is strong you know what I mean it's like you basically you know you're you're proving to them that you have what it takes and you've been doing this totally on your own but once you show them the result they will be absolutely blown away and you will be no choice but to hire me exactly and then i'll be rich then you'll be the man then you'll be squarely in the driver's seat for 2025

we was hoping for some razzle dazzle razzle dazzle that's right man razzle dazzle on your mark on your get set get set now ready ready go everybody razzle dazzle all right let's thank some dazzling

donors. Andrew, these are the generous people who brought the bank account edge to TBTB. Indeed. Indeed. These are the Don Felders of donors and we could not do the show without them and their generosity. Talking about David Samut in Woodland, California. Hey, David.

That's a familiar name. Thanks for your ongoing generosity.

Woodland, California. I know we're Woodland Hills. My dad used to live in Woodland Hills. Where's Woodland? And how many woodland californias are there it's a depending on where you are it's a very wooded state woodland is well it's of course it's near velocity island park it's what everybody knows uh i like that name for a park oh it's in yolo county oh hell yeah we drove through yolo county i believe i

believe that's where cat williams stolen uh stole a um atv temporarily and i remember this was the first week of the andrew wall show trying to make a case that you should be allowed to do that in a counting in YOLO.

That's not a bad take.

It's not a bad take at all. David said, I'd like to use this moment to provide a PSA for the biz boys and the tens of listeners. If you've ever thought that you might want to travel and take in the charm and culture that Europe has to offer, but find yourself slightly intimidated about being in a country that may present language barriers or even being amongst people who might have dim view of Americans, I would ask you to consider the island of Malta. Located in the heart of the Mediterranean, you will find a country deep in history and culture and a proud people who will welcome you as guests to their homeland. Malta was once part of the British Empire, and as such, English is their second language. History buffs will be astonished as to how much of the world's culture has been deposited on the island. There are stone temples that are older than Stonehenge and the pyramids. food and lodging are very reasonable and the color and clarity of the sea is unbelievable take a minute to google Malta you won't be disappointed brought to you by David and the Malta Tourism

Board interesting so I wonder if David I added the last part because I was on the map

looking at Malta it really reads like

I was wondering if what David's passion for Malta if it's completely personal or if it's possibly also somewhat professional I don't know But you sold me. Absolutely.

I love what I'm hearing. You know what? I actually, I can sort of verify some of this. My parents were once on a Mediterranean cruise. We the kids, once we were all out of the house, I think, well, that's not true. David must have been gone by then, too. We got our folks like a cruise around the Mediterranean because they'd never been, I think, even like out of the country at that point. And I remember my folks talking about one of the stops was Malta.

Really?

And that there were all of these really amazing old, like, relics and little, you know, churches and kind of historical spots. They really, really friggin' loved Malta. And now David, I mean, David's confirming this, or he's said it and my parents have confirmed it. And also it sounds like in Malta maybe they're able to separate the art from the artist. Maybe they're able to figure out that even if we're from America, it doesn't mean that we agree with the things that are happening at the highest political levels. I don't see myself fully doing this, but it does feel like one of those times where you want to throw an old Canadian flag on the back of your backpack.

Yeah, right. You get a backpack. I don't use a backpack. Get a backpack.

Throw a Canadian flag on there. Yeah. And just sip a Tim Hortons as you walk through various other countries.

I think the problem is going to be getting us out of Malta, not getting us to Malta. Where they're like, okay, sir, it's time to go home. Be like, nope, you can't make me. I live here now.

Becca texted me the other day and was like, listen, if it was the day, I don't want to get serious again and bring everybody down, but it was like the day that the news cycle was that Trump was saying, I'm not joking about trying to do a third term.

And she was like, if that happens, we're leaving this country. And I was like, why wait? Yeah. Why? Don't delay joy. We should maybe we maybe we maybe we get out of here like now ish because I know I've said this to you before, but that's why Genevieve was started learning French.

And she's been doing Duolingo now for, I guess, nine years, because I swear maybe she started at the beginning of the first Trump administration. But I swear it might have even been leading up to it because she was pretty good.

She'll be by the fourth Trump administration.

Yeah, I think she was pretty confident that he was not going to win, so it must have been maybe after that first election. But anyway, yeah, so it's been a long time. But now, I mean, I don't really know much about this stuff, but I just wonder, it seems like as more and more Americans might be having these notions, it might be harder and harder for Americans to find places to decamp.

Well, those like $1 Italian villas that they're selling out in the middle of nowhere are getting more and more appealing. The other thing is It would be actually Maybe, yeah, ideal I think it'd be ideal if you lived in France And I lived in the States and we still did this show Because you then could start doing the show at like 6pm And I'd be doing it at 8am And you'd be doing it at 6pm

That's interesting because I literally was having these thoughts The other day, only I was the one Who's in Europe So I guess we'll see You know what, maybe we'll all just be living together In some nice little French village

Actually, not a bad idea either.

Genevieve's been practicing her French. You've been practicing your cooking, so we can come home. You'll have, like— I'll bring my e-bike. Yeah.

I'll just ride around this little town with a baguette strapped to the back. Hey, look, they just banned Marie Le Pen.

Yeah.

I mean, go France. Viva la France.

Or banned, or I think found her guilty, right?

Well, yeah, I guess it said she can't run for office for X number of years.

Oh, because of the conviction. Yeah, because of the guilty verdict. but I I'm just trying to think what is my role in this French thing you know like you're cooking Genevieve is I'm not

cooking I'm getting the bread

oh you're getting the bread I'm taking my backpack

to lay SARS

you know you get your fancy pans though you're bringing your fancy pans uh-huh or maybe Becca is Becca the one who's doing she's she's a really good cook right

yes she's the chef you're doing the shopping

I think I gotta be a chimney sweep or something

no you're archiving French

vhs tapes that is not i don't think well no i guess you know it is time for me to be rich

you're right i should do that oh no we're still doing tbtl this is still our job oh that's true for hobbies yeah for what you're adding to the to the communal life you're you're uploading and archiving and documenting uh french ephemera from the video variety so david thanks for turning us on to this new plan for all of our life you know we started in the early days of tbtl we sort of made a joke about starting a kind of a religious cult because we realized we were accidentally kind of making one with TBTL and that was played for comedy back then but we may all need to we all may need to move somewhere together a community of a few hundred people at some point but here we are for now and we are supported by David, thank you so much. Maestro

On your mark! On your mark! Get set! Get set! Now ready! Ready! Go! Everybody rattle! Hey!

Hey, it's Aisha and Cameron Little. Hey, guys.

In Taos, New Mexico. Now, I'm pretty sure Aisha and Cameron, I don't want to mess this up, but I'm pretty sure they're always on the go, right? They're traveling around in an RV or were doing that for a while. They were road dogs. Am I right about this?

Here's what I think of when I think of Aisha and Cameron. I think there was a year that we had a typo. I thought Cameron's name was Cameon. and I feel like we did a hot maybe 15 minutes on Camion's name and it's only now that I'm learning it's Cameron and that makes so much more sense

Yes, because Camion is a musician though, right? That's a real

Camron is C-A-M-A-P-O-T-R-O-N

That's right, right, yeah, yeah, no Camron You know what, I think my apologies, I can't find any evidence that I'm right about them being road dogs Maybe they are home dogs there in Dallas, New Mexico, I'm not sure

They live in, I believe, the nickname for the, maybe the nickname for Taos is the Land of Enchantment, because that's what Asha says. Asha and Cameron, a.k.a. Camion, a.k.a. Cameron, say, sending the tens well wishes from the Land of Enchantment. Nice. I don't know if I've ever been to Taos, New Mexico. It's sure, I think my Uncle Roy lives there randomly. I think my dad's brother. It's weird that my dad and his brother are named Walt and Roy, and that's also the name of the Disney brothers, Walt and Roy Disney.

Oh, I don't think I knew about Roy.

I don't think that my grandparents, Farnham and Virginia, were Disney enthusiasts. I don't know if Disneyland existed.

that time it probably did but that their sons have the same name as the disney brothers it's interesting anyway uh taos looks like an amazing place uh asia and cameron say sending the tens well wishes from the land of enchantment period well dot dot dot guess we're keeping it short and sweet to see your power out i hope that's keeping it short and sweet because you're out enjoying all that taos has to offer um and and not because of what keeps looming over everything which is uh the world oh yeah taos new mexico and the land of enchantment the land of enchantment might be

the nickname for the state i'm getting here of actual um new mexico yeah new mexico a state in the united states with the official nickname a land of enchantment i love that as a nickname by

the way yeah it's very inviting i'm looking at we we went through new mexico right on our voyage to austin we must have passed i feel like we did although that was a long time ago luke we were children. Our only takeaway from that is the Miracle on Dirt.

We had the Miracle on Dirt. I mean, the event itself, I remember. That was great. I remember the food that you and I had a good barbecue lunch beforehand that I liked. I remember trying all the different barbecue sauces they had. I remember that. I remember the show itself. I remember stumbling. I think that was the one where I fell on stage. I think as I was coming out into the crowd, I literally tripped on the stairs and then I just got up and I said, I guess the worst is behind me for the show or something along those lines. I don't know if I remember feeling that. Like, well, I guess it's all uphill from here.

Andrew, if I can say this, that rings the faintest of bells in my mind of you having maybe a bit of a stumble. But if you asked me, like it had completely left my mind as well. When you say that, I'm like, oh, maybe that happened. But if you would have asked me what was memorable about our show at Stubbs Barbecue in Austin, Texas, I would say the amazing group of tens that showed up i would say the fact that shaky graves agreed to play yeah it's like a pretty big pretty famous dude for playing our little podcast i would there's a million things i would have

living in sarah's driveway for a day or a lifetime absolutely like i would have never remembered that

you stumbled getting on stage which my point in all that is to say i that's i think what happens with a lot of stuff that causes us personal embarrassment it's so much more primary in our minds than anyone else's i would i would have never remembered that so if there's any way for that to lower the noise on that in your brain of that happening please let it because like i

totally forgot that happened if it happened at all this is a weird thing to ask you here but since asia's and cameron's note was so um short maybe we can i would say economical economical exactly maybe we can lay out here for a little bit um you have taken the stage or a stage like in multiples of a hundred more times than I have so I don't expect you to remember this but do you happen to remember or even have a vague memory of the moments before we went live on stage because the stage was like there was no official green room or anything oh you mean at Stubbs at Stubbs in Austin like there was and so there was no place for us to sort of hide out and then come out from behind the stage. We had to walk into the room and walk up the stage, walk up the stairs to the stage.

And I feel like it wasn't very clearly marked, to be honest with you. Well, I do have a lawsuit pending. The rise between the floor, because it's kind of like almost old Western. I remember there was a lot of wood and kind of a bit of a creaky stage.

I feel like there were stairs. I feel like there was two or three stairs. Yes, up to the stage. Up to the stage. They're right in the center of the stage. But I remember being pretty chill about everything, And then I feel like, like literally in the five minutes before it was our turn to go on stage or our time to go on stage, the nerves hit me. And we were in a very weird little place because the Stubbs campus is kind of like that, a campus, right? Remember there was a big outdoor stage as well that was not being used because I think it was off-season.

And it has like crazy green rooms with it, right?

And then that had green rooms. So you and I were in some like green room that was sort of outside, but it felt like it was more like the green room for the main stage. And nobody was there and it was empty. and we were just sort of in like this I remember it as being almost like a weird cabin kind of thing it was very nice I'm not trying to diss Stubbs

it was fancy it was for performers of a much higher order than us exactly but

it was like we it was just a place we were more like hunkering down there I feel like the lights weren't even on in that green room potentially or maybe they were and I was just in my own little head and I just remember being like okay this is fine this is fine this is fine then suddenly being like maybe like the moment you jump out of the airplane with a hopefully with a parachute on your back maybe it's like those last few moments you're like oh shit, what am I doing? I just remember hitting me kind of hard in this weird sort of dimly lit green room that was not attached

to the stage. Yeah, I do remember that because they, like I said, I seem to remember it being pretty nice because, again, the outdoor venue at Stubbs holds, you know, I don't know, 800 or 1,000 people, and you have pretty legit acts. We were in this kind of little, small, you know, kind of room with a stage that's more close to the actual restaurant, et cetera, but so because there was nowhere for us to hide, someone was nice enough to let us hide out in the real artist's green room, but it was. It was like an outbuilding, and then we had to walk a certain number of steps through this kind of dusty empty venue and then go into this room that was packed to the gills with 10 and it was sort of energetically it was interesting to go from kind of this abandoned area to this little small area that was full of people who had come to see us and so yeah it was kind of a lot it was it was like doing a it was like doing a cold plunge right into a sauna or a sauna right

into a cold plunge or one of those things and we didn't know it at the time but we were leading up to one of the most memorable moments of that trip which was you later that evening stirring your

cocktail with that oh my god control i think that was in mississippi i don't think so because that

we were hanging out with our friends um we're hanging out with amy woo and angie it was after the show when we were staying in that hotel room remember yes i definitely remember i think i

misremember yeah hence let's well let's put it this way if if and when you see me stirring my

cocktail with a hotel room remote control you're probably not going to remember the details remote control at night

Luke's memory has gone white has gone to flight

yes exactly

so god what would possess a person how about a finger

yeah I don't know

how could that ever be for those who don't know for those about to rock we salute you yeah I we were having some drinks I clearly had had a lot of drinks before this was making up some kind of a concoction probably a vodka soda or something or other and wanted to stir it and instead i didn't have anything didn't have the right thing and instead of i guess using my finger which by the way also gross but but like but you know it's my gross come by it honestly it's my own gross finger i've got to live with it i use the remote control in the hotel room which is a known vector

yeah of course one of the bigger ones i mean there's a reason well there is no toilet brush

available what were you gonna do there's a reason why they performatively put those things in plastic bags yes which i'm sure doesn't do shit i didn't do shit i didn't clean shit anyway thank you asha and cameron for the support we really do appreciate you and also to david we could not do this without you hello and welcome to top story hey andrew this is no april fools

are you releasing a new pickled flavors skittle but that is the perfect if you just made that up

with your brain i want to tell you that's the thank you perfect perfect uh would be uh april fool's day spoof that one of these like one of these corporations would totally put out and then somebody would reblog and then we'd be talking about it we wouldn't be no um but we are right now even though it doesn't exist no this is no april april fool's spoof andrew but uh from the seattle times uh washington uncle sam billboard property is being sold now if you grew up like i did uh as a kid going up and down interstate five between seattle and portland you would have passed this sign it's called the i think it's colloquially known as the uncle sam billboard because it's got like a illustration like a cartoon of like an uncle sam it's technically in napa vine which is in lewis county which would be the first that many of us have heard of napavine i'll put it this way it's probably an hour north of portland or uh maybe two hours south of seattle is about where you'd pass this sign and it was for years it's a 40 foot by 13 foot sign it's a it's a large large kind of like billboard style sign called hamilton corner which i always i remember being a kid and seeing Hamilton Corner and thinking, what the hell is a Hamilton Corner? But the reason it was notable was because the guy who put the sign up and owned the property was obviously a very conservative dude and would just, every, I don't know, couple of weeks would go up there and put up some wackadoo message about, you know, conservative politics. Previous messages on the board were archived by online onlookers and online message boards and Facebook and even Yelp. Over the years they've echoed birtherism conspiracies about former President Barack Obama.

They decried COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns and hounded various politicians. This guy Hamilton, the guy whose property it was, once told the Oregonian his favorite message was, quote, let's keep the canal and give them Kissinger, a reference to a treaty ceding control of the Panama Canal. He said many of the billboard displays came from the John Birch Society. Well, you know it's good if it's from the John Birch Society, Andrew.

Well, you know it's good if Kissinger is too liberal for you.

Right?

I had to reread that a few times. We're like, I, you know, I'm not smart enough to maybe deconstruct that. But like, yeah, this person's like, ah, keep that hippie Kissinger. Exactly.

What was this guy's name? Was it Bob Hamilton? I feel like it's kind of maybe because I'm trying to do this on the fly. Al Hamilton. Al Hamilton was the name of this guy. I think he owned like a like he was like a turkey rancher and something else. and cattle it looks like. So he had some property somewhere, but I don't think the ranching was happening next to I-5, but he did also own this land that was really close to the freeway, and for years and years here's another one that they put a picture of in the Times. Bill and Hillary have their own White House soap opera colon, The Days of Our Lies, Andrew. That is... The Days of Our Lies.

What about the one at the top photo of this. This is from 2003 because this guy, Al, has been dead since 2004, I think. It says, if you won't support the team, get out of our stadium. I feel

like they really, they were never great, but they got worse as he got older and less sort of plugged in. I also felt like some of them were just his best, like some of them were probably stolen directly from conservative media and some were maybe his best guess, his best attempt. And I don't think, he might have been a qualified turkey farmer i don't think he was a qualified billboard writer even the ones i'm guessing i don't know maybe his kids because what happened was he died and then i guess his kids took it over but they clearly their heart wasn't in it as much because it's just had these two for like it says in the article for the last however many like i want to say it's been going on over a year or maybe more they've just had these two ones that were just kind of one of them is and i'm paraphrasing here how many americans will we leave behind in ukraine so i guess more of an isolation

isolationist sentiment there like we shouldn't be getting involved in ukraine i get right i guess

that's what it is and that's when you're driving north you see that if you're going north on i-5 yeah i guess i guess the argument was which is also an interesting he's been dead since 2004 so somebody else put that well his sons i remember when he died it was a story that his sons had his sons were now taking control of the billboard and they were going to try to keep his legacy. There was literally another article written about him passing and about the torch being passed to his sons. But you could just kind of tell, like, so often happens generationally. The sons, I'm sure they have bad politics, too, but, like, they just weren't... This wasn't as big of a pet project for them, so, like, the sign didn't... The billboard didn't turn over as much with weird wackadoo messages. And, again, I guess, yeah, what they were saying there is we're going to, in defending Ukraine, we are going to send troops, which, by the way, never happened, if I got that right. We have not sent U.S. troops to Ukraine, have we, formally? No. I mean, there's some Some Americans went there. Yeah, some guys that are mercenaries or whatever. But, like, how many Americans will we leave behind in Ukraine, I guess, is trying to say it could become another Vietnam War. Certainly doesn't appear to be the case. And also that, which is a weird place for me to take it, that went up at a time, that sign went up at a time when i thought we were all on board with helping ukraine in other words my my liberal bubble was telling me that we all agreed that russia uh trying to take over a sovereign nation was a bad thing and but what i can take from this is there was early on weird misgivings you can call in the like ultra conservative world about this because when that sign went up i was like what are they even talking about we all agree this is bad what's happening in ukraine but there must have been There must have been, you know, chatter in the darker corners of the conservative world, even in the early days, that we shouldn't be helping Ukraine out. And then the other side is the one about— I believe—weren't there some poems written about it?

Dear President Vladimir Putin, I'm so sorry that I was not your mother. You would get so many raspberries after your bath, real funny ones on your little Putin belly.

Do you remember this at all? Do you have any idea what I'm even playing here?

Yes, but wasn't this a person trying to make the larger point that Putin was unloved?

I think well this was a parody though I think there was somebody who Maybe wrote a really earnest poem To Putin about him Not being loved and then we played this which was Looks like it's oh it's well this is somebody named kate at barstool so barstool i oh i misread that whole story i thought

somehow i thought that that dear vladimir putin you should have gotten more raspberries was basically all written from the perspective of this guy was unloved and if he had been loved properly he wouldn't be the vladimir putin that we all know i think that was a real thing i don't

know if the raspberry thing was in there i think it was like that was a real sentiment that somebody he had recorded. It was a little bit like the, what's her name, the Wonder Woman actor. Gail Godot. It was a little bit like the Gail Godot Imagine thing. I think there was somebody who earnestly wrote some open poem and recorded herself saying it, and then I think this person, this tape that we played, was a bit of a send-up of that. I'm sorry, that was so non-critical to the story of this sign.

No, I was the one that was taking it into, at what point did we turn on Ukraine? Yeah, right, but the other side of

the sign, by the way, that's still standing, like i think that really puts that in like the ukraine war has been going on for like what three years now it really freezes it in the amber yes because the other side of the sign i believe if you're heading south or maybe north but i think south is something like um our world war ii veterans didn't you know sacrifice or risk their lives so that we would have to show id to buy food which i think was a pandemic reference to having to show your ids to go into some sort of restaurants in some parts of the world or country i think um anyway so it's just sort of weird that it's just has not changed since then and those are there those aren't just sort of like keep government small general conservative ideologies like those are very specific references that have

just been molding on this sign for quite some time by the way the uh another article that was written in years past about this from Eric Lissidis at the Seattle Times, who I'm a giant fan of. The headline was, I-5's Uncle Sam Billboard, 50 years and still ticked off near Chehalis. And he goes on, this is obviously after, this was written in 2017, so Al Hamilton is dead, but I think this was Eric, if I remember right, interviewing the family members who were kind of keeping the thing going. And what's interesting is there's a link to that story in this latest seattle times article because the gist of this new times article is that the family has put the property up for sale and so if somebody buys the property they will get to do whatever they want with this billboard and there's no official ruling on if they have to like there's no sort of uh what would you call it what would the we should call our friend sarah the real estate agent agent there's no there wouldn't be anything in the contract that would specify what the political leanings of the billboard need to be if you buy the property you're just going to be you'd assume

that somebody like that that was my first thought and probably almost everybody's first thought is like it would be great to buy this billboard and then just like program it with turn it into a

friggin for this lefty stuff liberal trans visibility day billboard although there was

one and i'm taking this into a part of the conversation that you and i are probably not super equipped to get into but i did think it was interesting there had been legal challenges to this sign yeah and i didn't know about that and i was like well why would there be a legal challenge to a sign because like it is literally free speech it is somebody who has a sign on their own property saying how they feel about the world of politics even if i don't agree with it um but apparently there is something like a night i don't have it in front of me but it's like a 1971 was that well uh i i think it was a 1971 law right that was the scenic vistas law that i'm getting at here

yeah the billboard survived a lawsuit in 1975 that made it to the washington state supreme court where they argued that his billboard was, quote, used to display political and religion commentary in violation of the Scenic Vistas Act, but the court ruled in his favor.

Because, and again, I don't have it in front of me, but the reason the court ruled in his favor was because there is a small part of the sign that does advertise his business. And I'm like, what? That is so strange that the only reason this passes free speech muster is because it's an advertisement as opposed to just a purely political or ideological message. Why are you not allowed to share an ideological message unless you're also like, buy my turkeys? Yes, exactly. But it must have something to do with it. It's a scenic law. So it must have something to do with like local zoning or something.

Also, in 2020, this article says there was a petition that gathered more than 75,000 signatures, which is a lot. Yeah. It demanded that the Chehalis City Hall remove the billboard for, quote, publicly posting racist and offensive statements. That June, an arsonist even tried to burn the sign down, but only succeeded in charring its base polls. About 100 counter-protesters gathered to defend the billboard shortly thereafter. This is interesting, too, because I feel like you can really track, to some degree, where the discourse was, because 2020, obviously, that's the pandemic has started, right? Is that true? And we're in, you know, we're, is that post the murder of George Floyd?

I think that's 2020. as well. I think we're, I think depending on exactly what the timeline is, we're in a moment where it was like there was an uprising, there was, there was a pandemic. It was a very, very fraught time. And I do feel like there was a lot of vocalizing of basically tearing down institutions, whether it's civil war statues that, that, that, you know, sort of celebrated, you know, folks that were on the side of the South, et cetera. I feel like there was a moment where the large, the public Discourse was really moving against things That were seen as hate speech And as, you know, like Just something that we don't want to see And that was, so that would check out That 75,000 people in 2020 Were going to try to take this thing down For publicly posting racist and offensive statements And obviously It did not, that was not successful Because the thing is still up there But anyway, I do I think it'll be really interesting to see what happens I think I saw the number of two and a half million dollars is what this piece of land is for sale for i mean how much can you scrape together well that's the thing i mean could we kick start this yeah like it just it does we have so many we have so few w's right now and so few w's like i beat i donate i donate 500 bucks to this how many 500 bucks does it take to get to two and a half million to get to the middle of that tootsie roll and then just Just like, leave Uncle Sam up, by the way. Yeah. You leave the Uncle Sam up there. Because when I was a kid, when I was very young, most of my fascination with this sign was that I had a huge cartoon Uncle Sam on. I don't think I understood what the writing was about particularly. I don't think, you know, just like you leave the Uncle Sam up. But this is woke Uncle Sam.

Oh, you leave Uncle Sam up, you put him in a dress. I love it. You put a bow in his hair. I love it.

And then it's just like absolute progressive, liberal, far to the left statements going up. And then we'll see how long the defenders of freedom of speech enjoy this billboard existing. But my guess is, first of all, I very much hope that the piece of property sells. What I really hope is, what I think the realistic outcome and what I hope the outcome is, is it's just sold to, like, a DSW, like a designer warehouse shoes. And they put up their DSW, and they make the sign a DSW sign because they're like, we have no interest in being political here. What I really hope doesn't happen is that the John Birch Society or some other folks don't take it as their responsibility to buy this property and keep this stupid sign going in perpetuity.

I want a shoe so small I can drown in the bathtub. That's what the DSW said. Wow. That's what the DSW said.

Andrew, I'm telling you, that and your pickled Skittle. Sure, yeah. I want you to remember those two. That was a very solid Grover Norquist joke.

The bathtub, I will say that that Norquist joke has been, I mean, you've raised the specter of that ideology many times on the show. So it's sort of easy pickings. But do you know, and we got to get out of here, but I'm sure I've told you before when you've brought up Norquist that I one time had to find his special pen because he had come to New Hampshire Public Radio. He was a guest on our talk show. He was talking to Laura Kanoi. Do not call her Laura Nodoy. And he was, you know, being interviewed and then he left. And I think I might have booked him, but, you know, with high sort of high profile people like that, booking is pretty, you know, you just kind of get permission. He comes in. But anyway, I believe he left. And then the front desk, like a couple of hours later, is like Grover Nordquist has lost his special pen. Did he leave it in the studio? And I just remember I can't remember if I found the pen or not, but I remember having to search around the studio for Grover Nordquist's pen.

Yeah, we used to have him on, you know, various conservative talk shows that I produced over the years, whether it was Wiseback or Kirby Wilber or stuff. And like, you know, look, I don't want to come off as pro-Grover Norquist, but like I would be, I'm not going to do this because I'm too lazy, but like, it'd be interesting to go back and see what the furthest, most extreme thoughts of someone like Grover Norquist were as compared back in the day.

The early 2000s or whatever.

And just because, again, what you made a reference to and what this person, he was a, you know, he was a huge critic of government and of spending and famously said, I want government to be small enough. You can drown it in a bathtub, which is a really extreme and kind of upsetting thing to say about anything. I'd be curious to see what these like what the most extreme proponents of kind of right wing small government ideology where they were at compared to what Doge is doing. It would be interesting to see if they actually fell to the left of what is happening right now, you know.

Because his was fundamentally like it was about taxes, right? Like it wasn't about like the birtherism or whatever started off. If I remember right, yeah, it was that whole thing, and there was a guy named Stephen Moore at a place called The Club for Growth. And their entire, the hill that they were all dying on was government is large and wasteful and taxes are too high. And I don't think, I mean, I'm sure that in the back of their minds they had not great thoughts about reproductive rights, etc. But that was not their thing. They were not into any of that stuff. They were all about what they saw as the dollars and cents of it. But it's like to see like their wildest dreams coming true is just freaking weird. It is very weird to consider. But this is not a show that talks about politics, Andrew. This is a show that talks about the question of if I should bet on Julio Rodriguez hitting a home run tonight. Should I drive to the Washington, Oregon state line?

Please stop doing that. He does not do well when you bet on him.

OK, well, the answer is no.

What I need you to do is I need you to play some bets on the Pirates, I think. Right. Or no, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The Tigers are out there.

Yeah. That's what I need to do. That's the hero move, Andrew, is for me to bet on the Tigers, knowing and praying that I will lose that money so that that will help the Mariners prosper. I will say this. Last night, as we were getting shellacked, I felt like my prophecy was foretold on yesterday's show. I said, I'm so excited about the Seattle Mariners being on television in my home tonight, and I know that it will mostly be heartache and pain for me. And that was exactly borne out.

I will say, though, it was a more interesting game than the previous losses. Like, it did not follow the pattern of, like, really good pitching from the Mariners. Yeah. It was just a very low-scoring game, and the Mariners just are, like, terrible at the plate. I mean, they were terrible at the plate, but they basically get no hits. They got a few hits.

They got six runs. Yeah.

They did get—did they end up with six? I thought they ended up with four. I guess I'm misremembering. Did they end up bringing it up to six? Okay, yeah. Sorry, I forgot that. But, yeah, that's more than I thought. But the game was so weird because they were just like, it was like they were like the Savannah Bananas on defense, only they weren't on roller skates. Like, it was just so weird. It was such a strange game, but at least it broke the pattern. I honestly was sitting there watching being like, well, they're not going to win this game. I was very optimistic even after we took, after we were like down 6-0 in the first inning. I was with you. I truly believe we're going to come back to win that game. I thought it was going to be a really weird game. We did not. But it was an interesting game Not for the right reasons, but it was interesting

Yeah, like, it was It really It really was uncomfortable to watch A starting pitcher for the Mariners just get absolutely hammered That does not happen very much But I was like, well, at least it all happened in the first inning You know, life is long This is a nine-inning game We could conceivably, and, you know, they had a rookie pitcher We could conceivably score eight runs this game We didn't, but you're right Like, there's almost something maybe cleansing Maybe sort of shamanic about like, you know, like you lose in a different way and you shake something loose. Like, again, scoring six runs as the Mariners should be a W based on our pitching staff. Like if we can get if we can get loose and start scoring runs, then we might be all right. So maybe maybe we I don't know, maybe we needed that. You know me. I'm always looking for some kind of some kind of a totally ludicrous silver lining and everything. That would be that.

It has been weird. Like, ever since I've made the huge purchase of Root TV, I have watched every game now. And, you know, I knew I was very excited for opening day. So, you know, I got, you know, it's all headed on my calendar. I was ready for it. And so, like, that's not surprising to me. But then that was Thursday night, then Friday, Saturday. Sunday, I didn't watch because I was busy and it was a day game. But aside from that, every game I've been available for, like I would usually by this point be deep into listening on my headphones and like kind of going around the house. But now that it is, I can't tell if it's like, well, I paid for this. I should use it. Or if it's I've just got now gotten into the habit of sitting there watching a game. But I'll be honest with you, I think I need to diversify a little bit because if I'm spending three hours just sitting there like watching TV every single night, like that cuts into a lot of podcast listening, dart throwing, cleaning the various rooms of the house type of situation, which I feel like that's a better thing for me to do to stay in motion. Otherwise, I'm just going to wear a hole in my couch.

Right, like it was better for you when you had that jank system Because it was a little less appealing probably And so on certain days you would just Hey, I have a cleaning question for you I know we gotta go You can even start bringing the music if you want to force the issue Because you host a great podcast With Hannah Brooks Olson, Spotless And so this must have come up I was I was grilling up a salmon burger last night And it got a little charred And so the pan that I had That I had fried it in had a little bit of a leftover, you know, charring or whatever you want to call that. It wasn't just going to be like a throw it in the dishwasher.

washer or give it a quick scrub. It was going to need some help. So I let it soak overnight. And I, um, I didn't want to clean it with, I have one of those, you know, like metal pot scrubbers, but it's a nonstick pan. And I'm assuming that that's a bad idea. I wanted to try to go gentle on it. And so I grabbed the next best thing, the next kind of the next, what do you want to call it? Like scratchiest thing, which would be a scrub daddy. And I bought, you know, I've got, I've got like a box of these scrub daddies I bought probably at Costco or something. and this scrub daddy that had just been sitting in my sink for not very long i want to say for maybe a week or something when i picked it up it had that mildewy funk in it and i feel like i've not figured out how to every scrub daddy i use is a single use scrub daddy because i'll use it once and if i don't need to use it again until a week later it has taken on an unpleasant kind of i'll just use the term mildew odor and then i have to throw it out and get a new one what am i doing

wrong i don't know i don't use scrub daddies that much but i'm pretty sure that you can put that in your dishwasher so i'll bet you running that through the dishwasher it'll come out not smelling

funky i bet you i bet that's a good idea i guess i just don't like the idea that this miracle solution i have to also wash it every three cycles to keep it from doing a thing that i was thinking it, the whole design is for it to

not do that. Well, it also sort of sounds like you're taking it while it's still damp and putting it underneath your sink where it's dark. No, it's getting sunlight. It sits on

so I have like these grates in the bottom of my sink so that, you know, like a metal grate and so what I'll do is I'll wring it out. I don't use it, the thing is I don't use it that often, but I'll soap it up and wring it out. Like I'll get a new one out of, so the new ones live like the ones that have never been used live under the sink in a box from costco i'll pull it out like i did this morning i'll get it watered up i'll add some soap and then it this this is a new one so it's fine then i'll use it then i'll rinse it out then i'll place it on the grate next to some of the other stuff in the sink so it's not touching

anything it's not touching anything it's getting air on almost all sides if it's on that grate i

don't know i don't know what i'm doing wrong i mean i can i will i guess start running them through the dishwasher but it just this was supposed to be you know this people would go on and on and on about this product and i think i found it to not really deliver on the promise of

a new tomorrow i thought you're going to ask me about your pan can i say something to you yes can i say something to you so i'm a little bit nervous here because we talk about what we do in the kitchen and i don't really i didn't grow up that's the spin-off to what we do in the shadows exactly it's very boring it's mostly vampires making omelets um but you know as has been well document on the show i'm not somebody who like kind of grew up to be comfortable in the kitchen like i just didn't learn those skills and so as an adult i think both of you and i have been sort of like easing into it in in different ways and enjoying the moments that we do do some cooking yeah but both being very reluctant to sound like we actually know what the hell we're talking about uh maybe more so than me than you these days but um one thing that i learned about when you have a pan with a bunch of sticky stuff on it when you're done cooking with it and i learned this as a cooking technique from one of those boxed meal companies we used to do ads oh is this a deglazing conversation sort of or just shocking the pan what i do is because i have like this started for me aside from that one recipe i was following where you sort of like you put in you put cold wine into like the debris of whatever you were just cooking and it sort of shocks it and then you can yes sort of glaze it but like even if you're not using that as like kind of a step in your cooking process when i'm done cooking something that maybe is leaving um char on the bottom of my uh skillet which i cannot use soap on my skillet you know it's like an actual cast iron skillet i just like get it really hot when the food is off of it and then i take literal ice water and i pour and i wait for the water to get nice and cold and then i pour it right in the hot pan and then i just sort of like stir it around and cook it for a long time dump it right into either a jar or if it's not too greasy right into the sink and that is how that that way you don't have to soak it overnight it

comes right off that's what i should have done last night i didn't even think to do that um what i was doing that's just the opposite and it's dumb is for a while if i had a pan and it was kind of getting a little bit you know greasy or whatever i would take it when i was done cooking and then i would put it in the sink and then i would run water into it but the only problem with that is it created a ton of steam and i have like a smoke detector somewhere nearby and i didn't want to like set it off so but that's what i should do i should effectively deglaze it like you said which is just like but not for the purpose of like making a sauce and putting on my food but just yeah i'll do that next time that's a really good point use really cold ice water and turn your

hood fan on because if you're doing it over your if you're doing it right there on the stove the hood fan will take care of that smoke and you're not holding something really hot in the sink that it's not gonna like i will still continue to kind of stir it around a little bit almost like i am making something only it's just water that's dirty water that's going to go down the sink

i should totally do that i was proud of myself that i at least tremendous

remembered to not use the like abrasive metal thingy on my caraway pans but um you know what i made last night and you can really bring the music i know we all have places to be this i this is i can't believe i'm even calling this a recipe it's so simple but i really love jacques pepin the chef and i like follow him on tiktok and stuff this is like a sweet old french dude and he was always just pointing out these things that are so simple why didn't i think of it so he's like this is how my daughter i'm not gonna do my jacques pepin impression but this is how my daughter taught me to make french fries he goes because if you're trying to with the fryer can be like a whole hassle he's just chopping up a potato like you know into french fry kind of shape and then he washes it what he does as smart as he washes it after he's chopped the potato up he washes it in a bowl which i thought was very smart you drain the water out you dry the potatoes off you throw them on a baking sheet or you in the bowl you throw a little bit of peanut oil paprika a little peanut oil paprika he put in some herb de provence i didn't have that i just put in some dried herbs put it on a cookie sheet you cook it for 45 minutes you pull it out you hit it with some salt you've got delicious healthy french fries i made that last night with a little tartar dip it made me almost not sad about the mariners that's how good it was wow just so it was delicious and it's a whole food it's a potato like would recommend that's all i wanted to say i do something similar with those little baby red potatoes oh yeah yeah same yeah yeah okay well listen um that's quite enough tbtl for today um i have amazing news though we'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you so please do get at us for that in the meantime have a great tuesday take care of yourselves go mariners and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all power out