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My whole issue is why would y'all name them wood chucks if you know they can't chuck wood? Like what's the purpose of that? And then to add insult to injury, you make a whole tongue twister or nursery rhyme talking about the very thing that you know they can't do. Talking about if they could chuck wood. You know they can't. You know they can't. So why are you talking about it? And then you got everybody else talking about it, making them the butt of the joke. The craziest part about all of this is that wood chucks can do a whole bunch of other things with wood. and yet the one thing that everybody is focused on is the fact that they can't chuck it even though that's what their name is they never said they could so why would y'all call them that like no they never said they could y'all said that they were woodchuckers so now they gotta get made fun of because what y'all called them they can do so many other things but y'all want to focus on what they can't do i don't like that i don't understand that to be honest that feels like a whole motif for how people go about looking at your skills and the things that you're good at that's like being like oh okay well you know you can't dunk but you know if you were taller like how high would your vertical be you know i can't dunk so why are you even asking me that i don't have the the statistics or the data to answer that question why can't we focus on what it is that i

can do t b t l guess what day it is guess what day it is it's Friday Friday gonna get down on

Friday, everybody's looking forward to the weekend. Well, what are you? I'm a chicken lady. Can I get you a beer? Would you like to just drink out of the toilet? A beer. No, definitely. Yeah. Literally, no. Yeah. Yeah. No. For sure. No. Yeah.

Do you have monkeys running around the house? No, they have their own house. I don't even know what that means.

No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. In 1971, Bill Graetz invented Microsoft. Wouldn't it be cool if I could remember my dingus password from my email?

Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TVTL, the show that just might be... Too Beautiful to Live. Might as well go win the whole thing. My name's Luke Burbank. I am your host. I've had a few.

A few what?

A few small beers. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it's actually a little foggy here on this Friday morning. We've got the fog. But otherwise, it seems like a spectacular day for Seattle sports history to be made. We're making history here with TBTL. Why? Because we're at the highest number of episodes we've ever been at in our life. We're at episode 4,573 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. There's going to be a special show today on this Friday. We are going to talk to and interact with a truly intense number and amount of actual family members of mine. We'll talk to my brother, David, from the basement, who is a very valuable and important insight into the headspace of the Seattle Mariners manager, Dan Wilson, and what he's been up to in the last 24 hours. He got eyes on them last night. We want to hear about that. Also, my mom is here and just absolutely champing at the bit to get on the show.

I'll say, what's up, dog?

So we'll bring her out later to answer some of your questions. Yesterday, after the show was over, my mom in classic form casually kind of said, yeah, I saw you doing the show, but I guess it's not really the kind of thing where I should just kind of pop in. It's not really a surprise thing, is it? I said, no, it's not, but you could be on the show tomorrow. So we're going to talk to her. We're also going to even hear from my niece, who's all the way over in Scotland, who wants to weigh in on dog sitting anxiety. So that's the plan for today. But of course, none of that can get rolling until we have introduced the yin to my yang, the longest running cobro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. he is not here to be told how to enjoy his big weekend plans how dare you tell me how to enjoy my fandom he's andrew walsh he's joining me right now good morning my friend that that aged well

how you doing luke how you feeling my boy that's the edited version i have seen so many people online in my text chain just checking in just how are we feeling today fam is the general vibe in Seattle, but it's apparently around the country as well for people who have any interest in what's going on with baseball.

Yeah, it's definitely, I mean, we may have absolutely obliterated our downloads by becoming a solely Seattle Mariners-focused podcast for the last two weeks, but we definitely have established a strong brand.

which is guys who care too much about this because i've also had people reaching out left and right just and it's it almost feels and i believe you referenced this yesterday it almost feels like a wellness check yes it's not just like how excited are we it's like it's like um are you do you are you feeling safe right now do you feel like you may harm yourself or others that seems to be the The tone of the people checking in on me anyway.

Well, I saw a lot of blue sky chatter because I follow mostly just fans of the Mariners, not even like real, like not professional commentators or anything like that. Just a lot of fans. And, you know, so there's a lot of threads like, how are we feeling? And you're right. It's all like that. Just like, how are we feeling? And nobody's like, we got this. Like literally one person was like, said, how am I feeling? Like I could puke on demand, which reminded me that's something that Jay Buhner could do. Do you remember this? and one time he made the entire outfield I was like well that's sort of on brand maybe that's

a good sign maybe right now we're all beunering I mean if it brings back the magic of that 95 season I'll absolutely accept it now I'm going to do something that is totally pointless here which is I'm going to explain what we're talking about but of course if you were like tuned into the show today the second that it was uploaded to the internet but you also didn't realize that Tonight is our Seattle Mariners are playing against the Detroit Tigers for their very lives. It's whoever wins this game gets to go on and whoever doesn't has to go home. Me pointing that out is so unuseful because either you're listening to this like on Monday or in two weeks from now and you know what happened or whatever. It doesn't matter anymore. This is I'm basically broadcasting to Phyllis Fletcher and John Takamoto.

No, I disagree. Actually, I think that's a really smart move, for real, because people who are even just five days behind, you might not know where we are in all of this ridiculousness. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, like— Okay, thank you.

So that wasn't as pointless— No, no, no.

Actually, I applaud it, and I'm embarrassed that I didn't think to explain a little bit why we're out of our goddamn minds today.

I'm giving myself an applause, too. That was pretty good of me there. I'm proud. This is where, you know, normally I'd ask you big weekend plans, but I think we've kind of covered this—we've covered this pretty thoroughly, which is that, I mean, I feel that the general vibe of our weekend is going to be dictated by how things kind of go this evening and so it's it's either going to be a a wonderful weekend of of celebrating and looking forward to sunday's game and just kind of basking in that rarest of things which is your sports team doing well or it's going to be as you said i believe on the show yesterday putting on headphones and throwing darts at a wall that's right that's right it's it's going to be either a spectacular weekend or a a pretty tough weekend yeah there's kind of no in between I guess for us exactly and

again we could get into my emotions on this day but I will just say I'm feeling better than I was yesterday not like optimistic about the game I'm I don't have any predictions on this game other than it's going to tear me apart Lisa but aside from that like I'm just I actually even woke up this morning I thought maybe I should go somewhere to watch the game in public and then I quickly dismissed it but the fact that i even had the thought means that that that's an improvement over yesterday where i was ready to like not watch today's game just like dig a tunnel like those guys in quebec or wherever they just wanted to sit in a tunnel exactly no nature is healing that

fact that you even the fact i mean of course it was summarily dismissed oh summarily but the fact that it did enter the brain is a really positive sign exactly uh we do we've got somebody on standby here who is about as invested in this as we are if not more he's he's fresh off his peabody award-winning interview with the rick riz this morning on seattle's morning news which mom and i watched by the way the video of that david that's very oh wow that's fun yeah well we don't have rick on video unfortunately we're not but you have a nice headshot of him it works yes but um it's it's my brother it's david from the basement hey davy hello hello david okay Happy Game 5. Yes, to all who celebrate. So we got a text last night. I got a text from you, I think maybe possibly on two different text chains, and it was a sort of a red alert. It was like the bat phone was being activated, the sign was being shown into the sky. Yes. And what was going on was you, because they overpay people who work in commercial radio and produce the most important day part of the Cairo schedule, you also work when you're not there at a restaurant and a restaurant that dan wilson has been known to frequent including yes he's the coach of the mariners by the way if folks don't know but he's played in seattle for years and all through those years it would be very exciting when he would come into this restaurant cafe lago and he in fact came into the restaurant and had dinner last night yes yes so uh like you said he he has been a a frequent guest at a at the restaurant and In fact, dating back even into the early 2000s when our sisters were working there, I remember actually in, I wanna say like 2002, 2003, Liz, our eldest sister, or my eldest sister I should say, bringing home a guest check that had a note from Dan Wilson on it saying like, Sam and Dave, go Mariners, something like that. I had that on my wall for like 15 years.

Here's, here's, here's where I'm going to say something that I will, I'm sure live to regret. My memory is that I got you guys that autograph because here's what I think happened. Cause do you think Liz, do you think Liz would recognize Dan Wilson?

Well, I imagined that there was a certain amount of energy communication, maybe John, very possible and Liz and such. I, all I know is I had a check on my wall.

this is my memory this is my memory of how that went down and by the way the reason i said i'm going to regret this is because yeah i could be so wrong i have been so wrong so frequently lately and this is more of a conversation about how tricky my memory is you know but the listeners

can't correct you on this luke there's no listener who can fact check well i'm gonna check in with

liz our sister because i have a memory and by the way this could a hundred percent be a combination of of of events that are in fact um how do i put it like this could be so i do have a i have a memory of going in once to cafe lago as they were closing down i might have been picking up like of my like first ex-wife or something like i would you know there's never been a time in the last 30 years that somebody i who's in my life has had there's never been a time when there isn't somebody who's associated with me who's also associated with lago but i was in there And I remember seeing Dan Wilson. And my memory is that I asked him if he would mind signing something for my brothers. Now, here's what's possible. It was Liz who did that. And I just saw Dan Wilson in there one time. And we've got a bingo sighting, everyone. You guys got your monitors on.

I was looking at the monitor. I was so happy to see it in real time. That's great.

It wouldn't be an episode of TVTL without Andrew's cat jumping off of the shelf onto his back like a like a russian gymnast in the 1980s going going off of that spring before hitting the pommel horse or whatever we like parkour parkour it's more that's more vault style i guess all

that is to say david yes uh yeah so he was a large figure in my in our lives and he's always

been going to lago now this is the thing never has there been a more important dan wilson sighting

Then literally, yeah, I mean, I've served him many times over the years, but not since he has become the manager of the team and certainly not since they have been on the run that they have been on and not on the eve of the biggest baseball event that he has ever been associated with as a manager. And this is where some interesting insight comes in, where I am not particularly close to the Wilsons who come in often. But a dear friend of mine who's been a longtime server at the restaurant is actually very close to them.

Do they kind of have their preferred server? Is that kind of how it goes? Yes.

They have a couple servers they really like. But specifically my dear friend Jenny. They're actually burrito artists.

Yeah, by the way, mom said something truly amazing to me last night. She was watching the Phillies game and I was kind of flitting around the house and she goes, do you know about this? Do you know about a commercial for Chipotle? And she said, and by the way, I'm not trying to shade her on this because I don't think I know how to say Chipotle for a long time. But she said something like, do you know this Chipotle thing or whatever? I go, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know about it. And she goes, I got to start eating there. The pictures look great. so forget what you've heard about suffering suffering some you know some l's with their smaller portions and things like that they've made a fan in suzy burbank through their advertising during major league baseball it works but but so okay so so i'm sorry david so there's a server there at the restaurant who tends to be the person who helps them out and that person was getting obviously a close eyes on on the wilson's and in particular dan wilson i want to know did he seem relaxed what was he eating was he having wine did he get the tiramisu what's going on for this dude who is so critical to our hopes and dreams tonight yes i have pretty much all the

information so they come in they get seated it's not in my section so i'm not serving them um but like i said a very close friend of mine is serving yeah and part of what she finds out is we we have known that this is one of their favorite restaurants for a long time uh this is apparently the restaurant I work at is their favorite place to go specifically Dan's favorite place to go which is why

on the most stressful night of his career so far they came in to lago uh and they stayed the entire evening until long after close what in which i was a little worried i was like damn go get some sleep please yeah yeah they uh they ordered um uh you know some salads uh just some of our kind of insalata mista um yeah just a good kind of classic salad uh green salad do you want Do you want to walk us through it?

Do you want to say, have you guys ever dined here before? And then maybe tell us how you do things there.

If you could bend over and get real close to the diners and say, we do something different here.

On one knee and whispering.

Maybe a hand on Dan's shoulder.

No, what was really interesting to me was, you know, this is a restaurant that it's not like five-star restaurant, but it's a pretty, you know, swanky place in terms of like a neighborhood joint. Yeah, cozy. It's elevated.

It's not a neighborhood joint.

Lots of very good wines, and the bartenders are, you know, kind of well-regarded, make very good cocktails. Dan chooses to get two Tall Boys of Rainier to start off with and continues to drink Rainier. He might have drank, like, four Rainiers throughout the course of the night.

This guy does not seem stressed. I know. Or, no, if he was stressed.

Yeah, well, maybe. I don't know. He seemed very relaxed. Again, this is his most relaxing place. And what's funny is he's up in one of the sections that's kind of a little further away from a lot of the other tables. I'm, as I'm kind of making my rounds, as you do clearing tables, taking orders, things, I'm overhearing conversations at other tables from Mariners fans saying, just talking about the game generally, how nervous they are, how excited they are. None of them have any idea that Dan the man is sitting right up in the next section.

Is he totally incognito with his mustache?

Well, I think it's that he is just kind of like, for one thing, none of us servers are treating him with, you know, as a star. Although I was very nervous around him, certainly. But I was trying my best to not show it. But, you know, it's their neighborhood place.

Were you tempted to say something baseball-y to him?

No, because I thought I was going to embarrass myself and the restaurant, frankly, and the whole criminals.

I love the fact that you're also a person who this morning is one of the people on Seattle's Morning News doing a very insightful interview with Rick Riz. So that is a different part of your life. But I love that when you don the apron of Cafe Lago, you assume that you have lost all ability to converse about baseball.

Well, it's just like this is the dude. like even even when i had served him in the past and he was just a former player yeah i would still get really nervous around him because yeah he's like a childhood hero of mine yeah whose autograph you got because of the love of your older brother yeah exactly or or a sister we'll see or older sister we'll never know the courts will decide yes and i do mean the courts because this is

gonna be a it's gonna tear this family apart but uh but it was you know it was funny he for dinner

He did he he generally will get a steak okay my memory and he did get a steak He gets it medium nice a little rare is what I saw so oh if he has some tummy troubles today Then you know I know which chef to to come after did he have that steak on a short leash?

Like two bites of it, and then he was warming up another steak in the kitchen no no you know he keeps the steak for too long come on we'll switch the steak out

after 30 seconds if we need to well so that was my one the one thing that i if i had a chance to to say to him it was going to be for the love of god if you put in turd ferguson oh god i will i will be outraged and you will never be welcome at this establishment again i take this

to be a hugely positive sign that he's having a normal night with his wife I love that I love that Lago is his favorite restaurant I love that he had a couple of beers I love that he was he thought you know what it's the night before again in a certain way you could argue almost the biggest night of his life because he you know he was a really good player but to manage a team deep into the playoffs is very life-changing for the manager as well and there's a unique specific pressure on him that because he's in charge of the team in a different way than being the catcher on a team or whatever so like i love the fact that this is what he wanted to do like i would be more nervous if he was like in a room in his house like charlie day and it's always sunny with all the strings going around the room and he's just losing his mind because i think this is instructional for all of us or i'll just say for me at the end of the day it is a game there will be a team that wins a team that loses there's only so much you can do as the coaches as the players as the fans like it kind of is what it is and i like that that seems to be the approach he's

taking based on his behavior he could be down at the stadium you know he could be in the locker room or in this coach's office with pete woodward and the other guys and just be like obsessively pouring over the numbers last minute and he's not doing that now by the way i don't know that he did

it first minute though either this is my problem and i'll tell you what i came into this conversation without a take and i gotta say like when you sent that text yesterday and you said oh uh dan wilson is here and by the way i think you might have fibbed a little bit because i think you said you were serving Dan Wilson, and now you come on this podcast. He meant the restaurant was serving Dan Wilson. Well, he said I. It's kind of like, let me tell you what I have.

I mean, I was of service to him. Yes, you were. I ran him for drinks. I took his plates.

As a wise young man once said, we'll let the courts decide. I know. No, and I promise you I'm not trying to be a hot take Andy over here. Have a take already, sir. I do think that if there is a ding on Dan Wilson, generally speaking, it is this. It is that he seems to be very chill about it, and I don't know, maybe I'll put in Turd Ferguson, maybe I won't. You said maybe it's not good that there's not tons of strings all over the board, but could we have one string? Could we have maybe one string and then another one that dangles a little bit? Sometimes a little sense of urgency would be good. And hearing that Dan basically acts in the dugout the same way he acts at Lago is now starting to irritate me a little bit. But that's not how I came into this conversation, for what it's worth.

I choose to take a completely different experience from this, which is his relaxation is causing me to have relaxation in my life. And I need that very badly today. Because as I told you, Andrew, on television, Chris Hayes, and this is not a joke, I woke up at 4.30 and couldn't go back to sleep and was doing box breathing. at 4 30 in bed trying to calm myself down that's where i'm at with this and so anything that i can personally hear about or find or interpret possibly misinterpret to help me calm down and go like hey okay sarah sarah a little bit again this will be an amazing if the mariners win tonight this will be a great story of how dan wilson's chill helped heal a city If we lose by a lot, it will mean that the dark magic is back, Andrew.

Two things. Yeah. And that he'll look the same throughout the whole thing. His expression will never change. He'll always just sort of look like, hmm, okay, baseball's happening.

Yes, I will say two things struck me. For one thing, like I said, they were literally the last table to leave, which was kind of nice because all of us servers and service staff are kind of sitting around the bar all chatting as we do at the end of each night uh and they're the last to leave and as they're going they're you know talking to the bartender close the restaurant out that is a wild well what's funny is the last table before them leaves and you can almost see you can see the the kind of the the shade or the mask kind of come off and all of a He can be the Mariners manager in there again And so then he's he was worried about being a bad or talking about the Mariners game and as they leave He says we're gonna get it done. All right, and they walk out show time They're gonna get it

Follow-up question Andrew. Are we able to change show titles on a Monday? I Feel very strong that we're gonna get it done should be today's show title And also, if you're listening on Monday, it may have a different time.

And then on Monday, it may be parentheses, narrator.

They didn't. I think Monday it will be, we would have liked one string. Yes, exactly. This is, David, honestly, this is amazing insight. I think there is no other show, sports radio, ESPN, MLB, Chris Mad Dog Russo, the doggy has you covered. There is nobody that is getting this kind of intel on the Mariner's sort of managerial approach other than TBT.

I went undercover at Cafe Long. I love this. I would be like, no, but it put a bunch of wind in my sails. I'll be totally honest. It made me feel good, like you said, Luke, that he was very relaxed. And, yeah, for him to bid us adieu by saying we're going to get it done was like. That's huge. That is huge.

That is a level of confidence that, again, will either be inspiring or deeply hurtful. But as a person who shows a lot of unearned confidence in my own life, I'm choosing to interpret that as a very hopeful, great thing, you know, that he feels like they're going to get it done, you know?

David, what time do you get up to go into the radio station every day?

So I'm in there by 2 in the morning. So I get up at like 1.15, 1.30.

And you work a night shift at a... Like, Luke, you said this at the beginning, and I'm sorry, David, I'm not trying to put you...

on the spot or say anything that would get you in trouble. But I think I'm allowed to say what is on my mind. And Luke, you undersold it when you explained the importance of David's role in that radio station, because I never worked in that radio station with you, David, but I know your job very well. I've filled in. I've helped people do that job. Poorly. I did it very poorly, which is why they hired you. I heard the conversations in the hall.

They still talk about how poorly you did it. It's a weird legacy.

I'm not saying this because you're my friend. I'm telling you, it is one of the hardest jobs in radio. This is the flagship show on the station. It is the morning news. So much of the station's success relies on that shift that you produce as the head producer, right? And they don't pay you enough that you can't work a night shift. That's the first thing I thought of when you sent that text last night. Not like, what should we tell Dan Wilson? Frankly, like you, I didn't even want to get close to that because I don't want to do anything that would affect the outcome. But I was like, how is David working tonight when I know he was at the radio station at like midnight this morning to do a morning shift? It is criminally too strong of a word.

You should have heard me in the hot tub with David, his wife, on Saturday, Andrew. It was regrettable.

You had some names for a few radio professionals.

I used a certain word for someone that I said, I know I don't use this word a lot. And David and Alicia said, yeah, you don't usually. Let's just say the conversation was intense. And yes, we all look forward to a day when David's not living on the schedule. I will say, though, again, selfishly.

Or that you get paid what the job is worth.

Well, that's why he would be off of this schedule.

Well, or they could just pay the person who was on the schedule what the person on the schedule deserves to be paid.

No, no, I mean the Lago part of it.

Oh, the Lago. I'm sorry. I thought you meant the waking up at 2 a.m. I'm sorry.

But I am selfishly, I am happy that David's, that this hellacious schedule, it persisted long enough that David could get that Dan Wilson. We're going to get it done last night. See, if Cairo paid him enough, he would not have been there. This is real sliding doors jingle all the doors.

if David was getting paid enough at Cairo

they didn't have to work at Lago he wouldn't have been there last night to hear Dan Wilson four tall boys in say we're gonna get it done

no that's a good point you should go thank your boss at Cairo later today

oh yeah you bet you bet I will

yes yes yes alright well David listen thank you for sharing this with us thank you for this unique insight and of course I believe we will be in touch early and often throughout today throughout this evening

before I know you gotta let me go i i want to know what you guys what's your plans because i'm i'm so torn about yeah how to watch how to follow this game uh because i'm in absolute knots about it i'm gonna i will be watching it

here um mom and dad are actually going to an event and i want to be careful with how i talk about this but um but it's it's uh it's a get together amongst a bunch of their friends the people they've been friends with for years. There's somebody in their friend group who's been very ill and is likely not going to be alive a whole lot longer. And this is kind of a celebration of that person's life while they're still here. And it's going to be a lot of their old friends. And there's nothing that mom wants to do less because it conflicts with the Mariner game. She is like, I go, mom, what time do you have to be at this thing? She goes, well, I'm going to watch the beginning of the game with you. I said, okay, but what time are you supposed to be at this thing in Vancouver? And she goes, well it starts at 5.30 but that's just, it's open-ended

it's open-ended

so I am going to apparently start the game watching it with our mother and our dad and then at some point I think dad will prevail upon mom that they have to leave at which point I assume she will be very upset with him and then they will leave and then I guess she's going to kind of like quasi watch the rest of the, well she doesn't know how to operate i was trying to coach her up this morning how to at least listen to the game on her phone she only knows how to look at the mlb app and i was taking screenshots i was referring to your screenshots things like yeah i was trying but anyway so i will be watching the beginning of the game with them and then i guess the rest of the game by myself which is a little a little nutty but i think probably kind of what i need i think they'll probably be a lot of pacing and a lot of i don't think i'll be sitting down very much for the game anyway um and i'll be in in close contact with you all by way of uh you know the text chains and stuff what are you what are

you leaning towards david yeah i'm interested in you i'm like i'm literally i've been going over it in my head a lot of times because the two games that i have actually watched one luke with you and the other i uh just watched on the tv with with alicia and gemma uh both of those were losses and the

two games that i have only been able to listen to or one of them i was working the whole night so i could only follow kind of uh as as the game went along on the on the app those were the two that they won so i'm like well you better get down to lago unfortunately i do believe in these uh superstitions and also i don't know if i can mentally handle watching every pitch again because you might actually go with the less is more approach. I was literally looking at showtimes for one battle after another hoping that if one aligned with the game, I would turn off my phone, go absorb myself in the film, come out and the game would either be over or in the

most important part. A few what? A few small beers. I also might have a few small beers. Maybe have a few small beers. One beer after another is my plan going into tonight, I'll be honest with you. I don't know, David. That makes me feel better. And, again, I know that we do want to get to getting your mom on the show here, and I'm sorry if I'm going long. But, like, that makes me feel better because, as you know, I still feel, like, quasi-new to baseball fandom. As somebody who's rooted for the Mariners, I don't really know what it's like to be in this particular position of just, like, kind of a huge game five to advance. Like, this should be the best days of my life. But, like, we've been exploring it, as you know, on the show that it's kind of like, why don't I feel more joyful or whatever? And I see this, you know, that guy who caught the Cal Raleigh 61 home run in all of his Mariners gear and the 61 shirt and everything. One thing I keep looking at is the still shot of that. And everybody around him are Tigers fans. And when I'm feeling like really like a lot of agita about this, which I have been, I go back and I look at that because what I love about it is this Mariners fan is framed by fans of the opposing team. And they're all joyful. They're all cheering him on. And I'm remembering their faces when we when and if we do lose tonight, I'm just going to be like, we lost to this fan base, like this team.

Oh, it's not the best possible team to lose.

And so, yeah, so I'm just trying to like kind of not that I'm expecting us to lose. It sort of slipped out there. I'm kind of protecting my emotions. But I don't know, like I how I felt yesterday after that loss or I guess two days ago after that big loss, I didn't like how how much of an impact it had on my emotions. And I didn't get super angry. Again, I want to make it clear. I wasn't like stomping around and like a danger to society. But it really laid me out. You went on a helpful walk. Yeah, but for 24 hours, I was still in the dumps when I talked to you yesterday, Luke. And, like, sort of, like, seeing that I look at you guys as lifelong baseball fans and lifelong Mariners fans and the fact that one of my friends who's a lifelong Mariners fan thinks that maybe the best way to enjoy this game is by not watching it and going to see a three-hour movie instead makes me feel slightly less insane in the membrane. Although, maybe I shouldn't use you as my model for that, David.

I don't know. Yeah. I don't think I have a healthy relationship with sports in general. And like, yeah, I don't want to feel like a bad Mariners fan. But at the same time, it's like for me, it's also I don't want it to impact me in a way that is then going to bleed into my, you know, family life.

And you're just enjoying your weekends are very precious, David, because of your unreal schedule during the week. And anything that reduces your enjoyment of this weekend is that's a that's a theft that I can absolutely not tolerate.

but I also know there's no way that I'm going to be you know hanging out just like watching regular TV or doing something with my wife and and not thinking constantly about well so I have not come

up with the solution yet Andrew I really appreciate what you said about those Tigers fans because you know I I also of course saw that but I didn't that wasn't the part of it I was clocking but now as I'm kind of replaying it in my brain, that was, like, what a bummer moment for them to have that game really, really, really go out of reach, but then because this guy had the shirt that said the thing that then just happened, they put aside that feeling of sourness to just be like, cool for you, man, this is cool, like, that's, we are, you know, at a time where we have a very, very hard time identifying with each other's humanity across, like, important topics, identifying with each other's humanity across something like baseball is actually kind of in you know it's kind of a important thing to think about um so i'm with you on that i'm also i'm trying to figure out because here's the problem for me i've watched these games in varieties of different ways i watched one with you david and alicia and jemma at my house i watched another game that we won at my house i guess i've watched i guess basically i've watched three of them from home And so the two that we won Which made me think that it was working I mean

and the Gemma picture was really working until it didn't. By the way, I haven't taken it down. I don't think it was the Gemma picture's fault. I think what happened was the game that we lost, so after we lost the first game, I taped up a picture of Gemma in a Mariner's uniform above the television. I said, this is gonna change the mojo, and it did. We won the next two games. Then we lost the following game, but I wasn't at my house watching it. That was what changed.

The TV has to be on.

I had never been watching the Mariner game at my house with the photo of Gemma and lost. So we lost. There was the photo, but I wasn't at my house watching the game. So I think if I go back to watching it at my house with the photo, I think it brings back the good mojo. I'm also considering adding this to the Mojo Shrine, which is a photo of Sammy and David in Mariners jerseys from back in the day.

A framed photo. How old is that photo? I can't really see. There's some glare on it.

It's pretty sun damaged because it normally sits on a shelf behind me.

That's got to be like 10 years ago.

It gets blasted with sunlight. But I think I might put this up on the – what I'm going to keep doing is I'm like a crow. Flying back to their nest I just keep collecting things that I think might Maybe do something And I'm just creating this weird shrine Of baubles Near my television That I'm hoping Whatever it takes I would say to you David Whatever you need to do as far as self care Go to the movie And then you'll come out

I can't go to the movie with Alicia and Gemma So that's also kind of, like, what I want to do is just spend time with them and not be focused on the game. And that's not a possibility.

Right. Have you considered nicknaming Gemma Big Diaper by any chance?

Oh, we call her Big Dumper often when she has battle movements because they are big. They believe it.

I don't know legally if you're allowed to say that, David. I think that's been very much probably trademarked, right?

It's a TM.

It's a BM. The BM has been TM. You know what, guys? You know what I think we just did there? We just got it done. I think we just got it done. All right, David. Thanks, man. Love you. Go Mariners. Love you, guys. Thank you. Take care, buddy.

Take care of yourself. All righty. Bye-bye.

All right.

Let's thank some donors. These folks are keeping TBTL in business with their kind and generous financial support It's the only way this thing works Is due to folks like David Alsop Who's out there in Narrabeen, New South Wales, Australia Wow, watch out for the spiders You know what we say about Australia Are you asking me? Yeah, do you know what we say about Australia?

It's a wonderful place filled with wonderful, colorful people I can't remember. Yes, exactly.

And Australians are just as unique, both warm and direct. Warm and direct? Where did I get colorful? They're warm and direct. Now, why I paused there, Andrew, was because I was trying to find the drop, and I forgot how to spell Australia. Oh. So I was typing in. I was trying to type in Australia into my little system, and then I could play Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, and then instead I realized I don't know how to spell Australia anymore. So that's why I paused awkwardly and asked you.

That's why it became an actual quiz. I thought you were literally quizzing me.

No, I was tap dancing while I tried to remember where the U in Australia goes. I see. Do you have any drops on Austria? Because that could also pop up. Probably. We also want to thank. So thanks, David. Also thanks to Carrie Maloney in Seattle, Washington. I appreciate you, Carrie. That's a place closer to home. Thank you both. Carrie may be also in knots today, being a Seattleite, as we all are here. I don't know what Judith Spencer is thinking about In Walton, New York Other than, obviously, her love for TBTL Because why else would she be donating money To this show Thanks, Judith Thanks to Tim Whitehead Who's in Cartersville, Georgia Oh, nice Probably beautiful there That has to predate Jimmy Carter, right? Jimmy Carter was from Plains He was from Plains, Georgia So Cartersville, I'm guessing that's probably not

Yeah

Just a coincidence

They couldn't have named it after Jimmy Carter That'd be a very new name Yeah, it'd be a little nouveau

Tim, thank you so much for the support We appreciate you Susan King is in New Prague, Minnesota

Now, do you think that's named after the Old Prague?

Mm-hmm New Prague Wait, what is it? Old Prague is the New Prague Wait, what am I saying? I'm just proud that I remember that that's how you say it yes not prog not prog i made that mistake years ago and i'm still getting roasted in the comment section i would have absolutely said prog there if it were up to me so thank you it's one of those things they like to do out there in minnesota when we just They just were, actually. And then Ann Plummer is in Poulsbo, Washington. Speaking of Scandinavian types, Poulsbo, Washington, not far from where my mom and dad live, Andrew. That's right.

We stayed in Poulsbo, actually.

Particularly apropos here, as we welcome to the program the one and only Susie Burbank, my actual mother. Hi, Mom. Welcome to TVTL.

Hi, Luke. Thanks.

Hey, Susie.

Hey, Andrew.

so you did say to me yesterday after the show you casually said like yesterday afternoon you go it's not i saw you doing the show it's not the kind of thing that you just want me to pop in on or surprise you is it were you kind of asking me if that would have been okay oh yeah because

i was just thinking since i'm here anyway it would be kind of fun just to pop in and say hey folks

you know but i don't know if that works that way it's a very i don't know if you can tell but this is an extremely professional production where we only have one microphone here in my studio and It's very scheduled, down to the millisecond, and we cannot have unplanned intrusions like you wandering in, Mother. That's why we scheduled your appearance for today.

Can I come to your mom's defense here, though, for a second? No, because when we did the TBTelethon at your house, Susie, I believe we, or maybe it was just me, said, feel free to pop in any time you hear something on the show that kind of piques your interest. So that was, we set, I set that expectation up for that situation a long time ago. And I've always, always resented you for that.

Understood. Add it to the list. Mom, without getting too into it, because we've already spent a lot of time with the Mariners topic today, but because you do have your shirt on and because I know it's a big deal to you, how are you feeling about tonight's game?

Well, I'm actually a little sad about the fills because, well, no, I know we're talking a little bit about the M's. But I was hoping that the Phil's and the M's would go to the World Series, take it to the mat.

You know, I think that it would create more problems because then you'd have to have the Philly family would be so sad or the Seattle family would be so sad.

It would be exciting. I think the excitement would take over the sort of the sadness because it would be such an exciting World Series. But obviously that's not happening. And I'm just hoping we don't go with the Dodgers. I mean, I want us to win, of course. I want us to go to the World Series, of course. We never have been. So, yeah, yeah. I'm just a little nervous about it all.

Do you think we are going to win? What is your prediction?

I think we're going to win, even though we're playing the pitcher to end all. I know we're playing against the pitcher that's, you know, we've beat him before. So, yeah, we've won games where he's pitched, what, three times, Luke?

Yes, in the season.

In the season and won in the post.

And what you haven't heard, Mama, is that, because we just talked to David, when he was working at Lago last night, Dan Wilson was there. And as Dan Wilson was leaving, after consuming what we count to be four Rainier Tallboys, he said to the assembled Lago employees, we're going to get it done.

Oh, you've got to love it. You've got to love Dan. You know, I was really excited when he became the manager. Because I loved him as, you know, catcher years ago. So anyway, yeah, go M's.

Go M's. And I do want to say I almost said this earlier because I know that we have some very hardcore Phillies fans in the audience as well. I wasn't watching the game last night, but I heard about it and I was sort of scoreboard watching. And that was almost the epitome of a heartbreaking way to end the postseason. I feel so bad for people who are on the edge of their seats rooting for the Phillies. And, of course, I was rooting for them anyway from afar. But yeah, if you if you are a Phillies fan hearing me whine about my anxiety this morning after that loss last night, that's tough, man.

That's tough. Well, the thing is, Andrew, that, you know, you'd mentioned that one of our listeners who's out in PA, our friend Maggie in Swarthmore had checked in to say, you know, I'm having such a hard time about how the Phillies are doing that it's making it hard for me to listen to TBTL because we're like in joyous mode when the Mariners are winning. And literally last night as I was watching this game and I thought the Phillies were going to actually tie the Dodgers and get to play one game back in Philadelphia. I literally was thinking of listener Maggie and I was like, oh, I can't wait to like send her a message and be like, how cool is this? And then that game ends in a you want to talk about dark magic, like just the without, you know, getting too baseball with it. It's just one of those things where as a lot, let me put it this way. As long as that's not how the Mariners lose. Yeah, that will help me emotionally. That's the kind of thing where you really that's like Russell Wilson throwing that interception, you know, in the Super Bowl kind of level of stuff where you just like you just don't know. There's not there's not a guidebook for how you process those emotions.

Yes, you know, that's that's what I've been hoping we don't have to face. Like, I know eventually we're probably going to lose. My prediction is not that the Mariners are going to win the World Series this year. Hey, they're in a position that they could, but I never feel that amount of optimism towards the Mariners. So it would be awesome if.

they did it but what i've just been hoping for and maybe this is that soft biggest tree of lowered expectations but i just don't want us to be eliminated on some sort of error or sort of like you said the other day force majeure or something that just feels like it was one moment that everything fell apart and it wasn't a good baseball moment right like a ball hits a speaker

something that just feels like somehow preordained to have gone the wrong way I don't know I choose to embrace we're going to get it done as both my Mariner's philosophy and my lifestyle now going forward my new personality as we're going to get it done guy we're going to get this done mom I threw out to the listeners because they're always fascinated with you I said would you like to ask my mom some questions she's going to be on the show tomorrow and people have sent some questions in uh tom uh said here are some questions he would like to ask you mom one is there a moment when you realized that luke was going to thrive as an entertainer and when is that going to happen

i love it sorry sorry yeah i deserve that um actually actually i i knew there was something unusual about luke when he was holding conversations at two years old and i'm not exaggerating two years old is when i married walter and luke was two years old just and he was literally holding conversations even before that with adults and that was very like entertaining

to say the least was he talking about was he getting into politics like what

i think he might have been talking a little bit about sports and a lot about like what was going on in you know around him and just asking these like really unusual adult kind of questions or at least big kid questions and he's two years old you know so it was it was really it was pretty astounding and i didn't know what to compare to because he was the first of the seven so i was

and you obviously figured out later that yes he is very superior to the other kids but you just couldn't know that at the time because i was the only kid then okay well they're

Girls, I have no favorites.

All right, here's the next question from Tom. This is a, I don't even know if you would know who this was. I don't know who technically falls into this category, but what was your opinion of Luke's first girlfriend?

Well, I didn't really know his girlfriends up until Jeanette.

Yes.

And gosh, I love Jeanette. She was like everything I'd ever want in a future daughter-in-law. and yet it was uh well it was really not meant to be obviously but i thought the world of her i really did because i thought she was quite a um accomplisher overcomer she i don't know what her background was but she really was uh you know taking the world to the mat you know just

really doing well yeah and she was a very uh super smart really liked you very very wonderful person and remains a wonderful person, and, by the way, is kind of relevant to this Mariner stuff,

because the way that I can... What age is this, Luke? Can you, like, kind of sort of tell us what

period of your life? Yeah, this would have been... Addie has been born. Okay. Fairly. So this is, yeah, this is a gal who I dated when I was a senior in high school and into college, and what I was... So what happened was we changed churches. We had gone to this church called Gospel Irish Christian Fellowship, and then that sort of went by the wayside, and we ended up at this other church called living way four square and i remember like i wasn't really going to the church because i was already like pretty old i was a senior i could drive my own car and i feel my memory of it is my mom said there are some really cute girls at this church and i was like i'm listening i thought who isn't in the market for a 17 year old future father because that was the thing i go to this church right but nobody at this church they don't know me and nobody there knows that i have gotten somebody pregnant and that person has not had the baby yet so i'm like this kid that shows up at the youth group and like you know making friends with everyone but i've got a secret and so so adelaide is born and it's like two days later we have this church camp out that's been you know on the schedule forever so i go to the church camp out and i was the like one of the song leader guys you know i would play my little guitar and we'd sing the songs and i remember i just was like i have to somehow i have to let all these people know what's going on because it's going to be really weird if i just start bringing a baby to these events and so literally like in between the songs i just said um uh well i need to kind of let you all know something i have i just became a father two days ago and all of the young women at this event gathered around down this fire immediately looked at this girl, Jeanette. because we, everyone knew we were kind of sweet on each other. Like, I don't think we'd ever really talked about it. Or actually, no, I think I had actually, I might have told her at this point. She might have been the one person I had told. But it was one of those very high school-y moments where, like, I'm telling everyone that I just became a father two days ago, and all of her girlfriends are basically like, did you know this?

Oh, I misunderstood. Oh, right, of course, yeah.

Of course, Jeanette wouldn't have been sitting there in full form two days later after a baby. That's why I was curious myself.

Oh, no, no, they didn't think she had the baby. They just wanted to know if she knew that this guy that she was kind of interested in, and he was very interested in her, if this was news to her, was she finding out that this guy is a father of a two-day-old in the moment? But anyway, all that is to say, an absolutely lovely human, and the way it relates to the Mariners is, when Addy was, the way that I can remember the last time that the Mariners, or at least a very memorable time that the Mariners went to the American League Championship Series, that was 95. And that was, so I would have been a freshman in college by this time, and Addy would have been like one. And I remember watching the series, the Mariners versus the Yankees, at Jeanette's apartment with a bunch of people. and Addie I had Addie at the time and she was a baby she was she was like kind of like you know probably just bored getting a little fussy and I remember it was like the eighth or ninth inning was super critical and I was like I didn't know what to do also by the way I'm 17 right maybe I'm 18 by this point and Jeanette was just like I got it and she like takes Addie and like just gets in the car and just driving her around the block so I can watch the Mariners come back and beat the yankees in the in the in the divisional series to get to the championship series so uh so literally it's a it's one of the i'm terrible with the dates but i can always remember that that was 95 because i remember that addy was one and i remember that jeanette was nice enough to distract her uh while i was trying to watch my beloved mariners and probably dan wilson by the way play yeah she's ace person yeah so that was it okay we have good thoughts about jeanette shout out to jeanette now here's the final question from tom uh soup or salad oh wow i guess soup i love soup especially

on like a winter day there ain't nothing like soup yeah that might be a new drop that might be

a new show title now mom i'm with you i definitely inherited this from you i have on the show many times said there need to be more soup based restaurants for my liking like it's there i go to certain restaurants you know if they have soup as one of their things oh by the way what was your take on chipotle yesterday what you were telling me about well you know how they have commercials

for different restaurants and they have really good graphics oh graphics yeah and i was like wow that looks like i want to go to chipotle or whatever how do you say it it's good man it's

like it is yummy i think favorite chains yeah i think you'll like it mom but here's the thing like there aren't enough restaurants that just do like soup is their main thing or they have a lot of soups and as somebody who doesn't eat a ton of meat what i've noticed i always ask if i'm at a restaurant what is your soup and it's always it's almost always like ham stuffed with lobster stuffed with sausage it's like the soup always has a lot of meat in it which is kind of usually means i'm not going to end up eating it i would love there to be more restaurants that have like 10 different kinds of soups that you can have i would i would eat soup like five days a week if i could i am so

with you luke because there's something about like i even like pho because i love broth you know there's something about a good broth that just it's just a feel good inside you know yeah speaking

of feel good inside i'm gonna ask you the most personal question i've ever asked you suzy but i've asked this to a lot of my friends and some of us bond over this others have no idea what we're talking about but when you eat pho do you need to do it on a schedule do you have a countdown clock from the moment you eat that pho to the moment you need to rush to a bathroom. Because I have this whole thing. I love pho. It's one of my favorite foods, but it cannot be the first thing I do before running a bunch of errands. It needs to be the last thing I do before I come home.

Oh, I gotcha. But you know what? I haven't had pho enough to have that experience. I probably have had pho because we don't live in Seattle anymore, so that's part of it.

Yeah, it's ubiquitous here.

There is a pho place, but I haven't had it probably in, I don't know, eight years and maybe only about two or three times. But I'm saying I love that warm feeling of eating something like that.

So you've had pho and you've had diarrhea, but you can't connect those dots. You can't say that definitively it was from the pho, and that's fair.

Definitely, definitely not.

Okay, here's a question from Lauren, Mom. uh um she says i'm a lifelong philadelphian feeling infuriated this morning obviously sorry lauren sending you love and light right now um i wanted to say that i always find susie's appearances on the show a little comforting because she still has a bit of that

Philly accent after what I believe is 50 plus years on the West Coast. Even though I live here, I still find hearing a Philly accent in an unexpected place to be such a fun surprise. So my question for her and you is whether she knows she still has this accent and whether it gets stronger when she's around her family or she comes to visit Philly. Truth be told, I always thought I had avoided the accent, but my husband, who grew up elsewhere, says he can hear it with a few words.

words oh absolutely I still have the accent and you know what I embrace it I don't try to like you know cover it up or and when I go back to Philly if I go back with my sister Mary Lou who lives in the Seattle area she has changed her she's refined her I would have pointed out that

my mother for years has thought that her sister is trying to be a little uppity by losing her

philly accent is this true mother yes not just me my sister cat who's you know still in philly been there all her life and my brother chuck they're like what's with your talking you know you're uppity there now that you live in seattle it's a riot isn't it that you think she says the word moon in an uppity way she says my family instead of family and you know the and you know She runs errands instead of errands, you know, these kind of things that we classic words, you know, that Philly says. And she's kind of corrected them. But then again, she has lived in Russia for many years. So maybe that has something to do with it. But I still love her, you know.

Now, Mom, do you feel like when you're back in Philly, does your accent kick back in? Do you ever find yourself saying, are you going to go down the shore?

Actually, I've never said use because I'm kind of a stickler on on proper pronunciation. So I haven't used use guys like a lot of a lot of Philly folks do. But but yeah, I think it might get a little stronger because I'm in conversation, but I don't I don't recognize it because. But if I hear myself, like even if I hear myself on my message or something, I'm like, oh, I'm not nuts about it, to be honest, because i think it is strong enough that it sort of i mean i love it in some ways but in other ways

it's a little bit i don't know it's very i'll tell you mom it's very in style right now the delaware county accent because it's on hbo they have that whole show mayor of east town and then they got this other one task which i had you and dad and i watched the other night i thought you would maybe like it just because everyone talks like you talk but you kind of were not that into

that show why not i think it was a little forced i mean philly people talk fast you know that so but it was almost like too fast to even follow and then it was the accent you know i know they're trying to really make it philly like and i i kind of take that back it's not like i don't like my accent i do but it just sounds i'm kind of i'm very particular about certain things in my life right now being 71 and one of them is kind of like oh do i really sound like that you know what i

mean um well mom the people on the show love how you sound so that's a good thing um and i would say at this point at 71 i would just i would i would lean into it whatever you've been doing i would say keep doing it at this point it's a little probably a little late to like basically

develop a completely new accent okay and i'll accept that not to be pollyanna-ish about it but also like i think the older i get the more i appreciate accents especially like you know i'm from the midwest and i wouldn't say i have an accent but you could hear it in certain words and in a world where everything is sort of flattening out a little bit and it's nice to have these little regionalisms whatever they are the little unique things about where you come from in fact i'm going to be going to it's looking like i'm going to be going back to ohio for about a week in early november and luke you can tell me when i get back if you think some of my uh midwestern accent stuff is stronger when i get back yeah because i growing up i was like well we're in the midwest we don't have an accent we talk normal and we can hear the accent from everybody else around us but now i go back home to the cleveland area and i hear the very long vowels and in sometimes the people i talk to it sounds like they're almost like a um and these are people i've known my entire life and you're like oh i never noticed that you talk like somebody from

the movie fargo okay yeah i feel like it you know the pacific northwest prides itself on Being sort of accentless Supposedly Although there are the things And I think maybe I was even interviewed on KUOW About this many years ago They needed to find someone who had pretty much always been In the Pacific Northwest And I guess for us it's the word bagel And milk We say bagel And milk We kind of say milk a little bit And we say bagel And not in the way that everybody else does of course That's a famous drop If I can remember how to spell bagel that's even a we have a little yes let's see here we've even got this from the show

Beagle, beagle, boggle, boogle. There we go. Classic.

So, yeah. But otherwise, Andrew, would you say the Pacific Northwesterners, we are fairly accentless as somebody who was transplanted to the Pacific Northwest?

Well, it's really funny because I remember being very high and mighty about the fact that the Midwest was accentless when I lived there. But I will say that coming out to – so I've moved to various places. I would say L.A. doesn't have an accent even more than the Pacific Northwest.

Which is why, by the way, that sketch that SNL did, you know, the Californians, that people really loved. And you know me, it's got like Bill Hader, Kristen Wiig, and Fred Armisen in it, who I absolutely love all of them so much. But I lived in L.A. for a fair amount of time. I literally never, like, I don't really understand what the joke is there. I hope that doesn't sound defensive. I did not know anybody who talked that way. But maybe I just didn't hang out in Malibu enough. Maybe there's transplants to L.A. from other places.

I do think that that is one of the reasons why it might seem accentless is because it is such a mecca for people from all over the country with with a dream of stardom and being on the silver screen. But, yeah, I would say that the Pacific Northwest is relatively accentless, but I would say L.A. probably because I lived in New England as well. Right. And New England definitely has an accent and and definitely like kind of mannerisms and that type of thing.

Mom, do you want to help us get through like an email or a voicemail here?

Yeah, sure. OK, hang on. Here I go once again with the email every week. I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

All right, actually, Andrew, if I can, I know that the emails and the emails are sort of your domain.

No, good, good, because I was scrambling here.

I've got a message here from my actual niece, Maddie. Yeah, right. Checking in from all the way over there in Scotland. She's doing an exchange program over there in Edinburgh, and she's apparently listening to TVTL, maybe just a little home cooking or something and uh the other day on the show we were talking andrew was talking about they're going to be doing some dog sitting and he was kind of a little maybe a little apprehensive about how it was going to go wasn't quite sure and one of the things is now there's going to be a puppy involved which hadn't been the plan previously and andrew you were being very self-critical like moments after you expressed your hesitation on this then you were sort of feeling maybe self-conscious that you had expressed anxiety around this topic here's what But here's what Maddie said. Hey, Uncle Luke. I was just listening to Monday's episode where Andrew was talking about dog sitting. Like Andrew, as a fellow cat person with anxiety who has never owned a dog and in high school was the designated neighborhood dog sitter, his stress is 100% validated, especially concerning the fact that it's a puppy. Caring for your own puppy versus being responsible for someone else's puppy despite having no experience raising one is pretty different. while cats can be independent puppies need full attention all the time which feels crazy when you're not used to that mary and i had to actually take shifts the last time we had to watch a puppy together so we could each also have a little bit of a break from her constant neediness i never knew that maddie was so deeply anti-puffy um uh also they're so loud which is so obnoxious when all you're used to is the sound of meows and you don't really know the family's uh the family's neighbors you start to get insecure about them judging you not keeping the dog quieter also owners always lie about how potty trained the dogs are a cat will always go to the bathroom in a litter box but if you're not on top of letting the puppy out when it needs to it will crap everywhere this episode gave me flashbacks to a huge carpet diarrhea pile i had to clean up when I was dog-sitting a couple of years ago. Anyway. Too much pho. Andrew has... Andrew has mine, and probably Marion's, too. Full empathy. Thank you. Because both of us know exactly the concern he's facing. Sorry for the long... And she uses the ass word here, Mother. I don't like this. She's in college now. She's allowed to drink over there in Scotland, you know, even though she's not 21. She's allowed to put ass in text messages. Sorry for the long ass paragraphs, But this episode reminded me of some crazy and stressful experiences I've had, and I honestly think Andrew isn't being frank and grumpy enough over the situation.

Well, thank you. I feel very validated. Like I sort of mentioned to you, Luke, I think maybe yesterday is that, like, you know, there's only so much I can sort of say about the situation on the show without feeling like I'm sort of invading the privacy of the folks who we're doing this for. But, yeah, definitely signing up to watch one dog and then suddenly just realizing, not realizing, but being told that actually, no, now it's a dog and a puppy and one of them is going to mostly be in their cage. And it's just sort of like I'm not living in their house. I'm not house sitting and we can't bring the dogs over here to live because we have a cat. It's just a very complicated situation. I am I am looking forward to parts of it, though, and curious to see how it all plays out.

I'm looking forward to hearing about it. Yeah. The safety of the drone. Well, that's the easy to hear. Yes. Mom.

A final question and an easy one here as we roll into the weekend. Do you still secretly hate dogs?

I have never secretly hated dogs.

Oh, so it's not a secret. I have never hated dogs, period.

I do not hate dogs. I had a stepmom who said she was allergic to dogs, so we never had a dog from eight years old on, you know. But I know that my biological mom loved dogs. And I think I remember, I have a memory of a dog who actually got hit by a car, you know, on the Roosevelt Boulevard, because we're Busselton Ave, one of the busy streets, when I was probably four or five. But I just, I haven't been, I don't warm up to a dog that immediately jumps on you or sniffs your private area. I mean, come on.

Somebody had the pho. All right. That seems like a good place to end this. Mom, I think for being on the show. show we love you thank you love you guys thank you uh andrew sir thank you for your service this week appreciate it thanks to everybody for see i feel like all we're going to do here is say the magic incantation that ends tbtl and then immediately resume the conversation offline about the mariners like i feel like i'm going to be texting you and everybody else incessantly for the next six hours six to ten hours so uh thanks everybody for uh hanging out with us this brings us to the end of our broadcast week we will be back here on monday with more imaginary radio for you we'll be well we'll know a lot more about our emotional state and health on monday so we'll see you then in the meantime have a great weekend take care of yourselves go mariners and please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all i should not have brought up baseball i understand My mistake. My mistake. You got to know your crowd. Power out.