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TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

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from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

October 24, 2025 | 01:33:21 | Leisure, Comedy

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Luke will be hosting a Halloween pet costume party this weekend. He's also getting more into Bluesky these days. Meanwhile, Andrew sets the record straight on a classic scene from Superman IV.
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Uh, excuse me, Mr. Lavender, John Tesh is here.

00:00:03 - 00:00:04 | Speaker 5:

Oh, great. Send him in. Okay.

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Knock, knock.

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There he is, Mr. Entertainment tonight.

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How you guys doing? Hello, everyone. This is my brother right here, Dave Tesh. Pleasure, pleasure. I did not know that you had a brother. Oh, yeah, you know, he's not just my brother. He's also the genius in the family. Meanwhile, I'm blushing. Okay, well, let's see what we've got for you. We've written a song that we like to call Round Ball Rock. Now, it started as one of David's poems here, but then it just grew into something bigger than both of us could ever imagine. It's me on keys and Dave singing. Can you believe this is our job? All right, fire away. All right, ready to do this? Yes, I am. All right, two, three, four.

00:00:44 - 00:00:56 | Speaker 8:

Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-basketball, gimme, gimme, gimme the ball, because I'm gonna dunk it! Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-basketball, gimme, gimme, gimme the ball, because I'm gonna dunk it!

00:00:56 - 00:01:26 | Speaker 5:

Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-basketball, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game, game,

00:01:26 - 00:01:27 | Speaker 8:

Guys, I don't, I'm sorry.

00:01:27 - 00:01:33 | Speaker 4:

I think we probably, we weren't clear. We actually meant, could we hear it with just the music? Right.

00:01:33 - 00:01:42 | Speaker 7:

Oh, um, I defer to you. Uh, my gut is no. Yeah, it's no one time. TBTL.

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Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is.

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It's Friday, Friday. Gonna get down on Friday. everybody's looking forward to the weekend I saw a woman psychiatrist and she said it was OCD one cool dude and she understands the way I think right now and everything's cool everything's cool pathetic everybody's happy and I'm

00:02:10 - 00:02:16 | Speaker 8:

happy too sweetie have a good show what you do is so important all right hello

00:02:16 - 00:02:22 | Speaker 4:

good morning and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of TBT all the show that

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just might be too beautiful to live it's a ship that made the castle run in less than 12 parsecs my name's luke burbank i am your host you're like the daniel day lewis of only doing one thing

00:02:32 - 00:03:21 | Speaker 4:

coming to you from the madrona hill studio perched high above the mighty columbia where boy it is dark don't stay in my house if you're dark sat and of course very very wet uh didn't Didn't know you like to get wet, though. The atmospheric river has arrived and had to do something very sad today. I had to batten down the hatches. I had to being a grown up means waking up at 4 a.m. because the wind is howling and and just thinking, God, why didn't I take the deck furniture in yesterday? Why didn't I check the weather and then get all that stuff taken care of? because it's time to now put that away for the rest of the season.

00:03:21 - 00:03:25 | Speaker 1:

What makes people all over America break down and cry like this?

00:03:26 - 00:04:27 | Speaker 4:

It's all right, though. We're going to get through it together, my friends. Here on episode 4,583 in a collector's series. Let the fun begin. Two stories about the Internet. One, a mysterious young man whose photo near the Louvre has people wondering, is he a detective trying to solve the robbery? Is he part of the heist or is he AI? And then another internet story. It's called the internet and it's a fresh new way to check out sites, buy clothing and surf music. Is Blue Sky the new Blue Sky? I don't know, we'll talk about that. Oh, and we're gonna talk to this guy. He's the longest running co-bro of the show. Two bros, bro in it up. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend. good morning luke how you doing i am well other than making peace with the fact that uh we are getting into the bad weather portion of our lives for the next many months uh i'm doing really well

00:04:27 - 00:04:40 | Speaker 6:

on this friday morning how are you i am good i wanted to ask you a question yeah i was gonna do it before the show but we'll do it now are you familiar with a comedian here in seattle named

00:04:40 - 00:04:46 | Speaker 4:

phil burton does not ring a bell i only ask because you're a little bit more tapped into

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that especially since you're booking folks for live wire and comedians musicians if i understand it correctly your show has a theme and then you invite a bunch of musicians poets writers to explore variations on.

00:05:00 - 00:05:37 | Speaker 1:

that theme. Is that what LifeWire is all about? That's what I thought. That's what we've been. Each week on our show, we pick a theme. I know I messed that up, too. Anyway, I was on KUOW's podcast, their weekly kind of Friday roundup. It's called Seattle Now. I always have to think about that. It's not Seattle today, right? It's Seattle Now. I think it's Seattle Lookout. It's Seattle Lookout! Lookout! Lookout! It's Seattle. What's that? What's that song from the 60s where they say, look out, look out, look out, look out? That's, is that the leader of the pack? The leader of the pack, yes.

00:05:37 - 00:05:42 | Speaker 2:

I felt so helpless, what could I do? That's got to be Phil Spector, right?

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Speaking of Phil. It's got to be, boy.

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That big old, that big sound of those, like, I don't know, is that like a timpani or a big that kind of wall of sound?

00:05:53 - 00:06:04 | Speaker 1:

Yes, it's also, though, very sparse in places, which gives it that really spooky feeling, kind of. I remember as a kid being just rapped by that song. I don't know if I used that word right.

00:06:05 - 00:06:09 | Speaker 2:

By the way, it doesn't look like it had. I don't think Phil Spector had anything to do with it. Okay.

00:06:10 - 00:07:15 | Speaker 1:

Anyway, well, back to Phil Burton. Phil Burton, I don't have a real power out for this. I was just curious if you were familiar with him because we had a lot of fun recording that podcast yesterday. it's uh you know usually it's kind of a news roundup but we didn't really get into any kind of serious news at all and uh he was a really funny guy and uh laughed really hard i don't know how much i don't know how much they're gonna leave in i think they like we record for like 40 minutes and they cut it down to like 20 ish or something so a lot of it so i don't know if my crack cocaine joke is gonna make it in there i hope it does but uh i certain i'm not even joking i hope it makes it in there but it was one i'm not joking i said but uh i guess we'll find out could you give us a little preview i feel like that would kind of ruin the joke it wasn't something i planned on saying somebody asked me something and my response was crack cocaine and we all laughed but we all laughed in a way that i thought you're cutting this out i know you're not letting me make this joke uh but maybe they will i don't know we'll find out but uh anyway it was a really good time i'm not trying to overly promote it but yeah that was uh we record yesterday and then it posts today that seattle now podcast and i'm just i'm a fan of I'm a fan of Phil, so Phil Burton.

00:07:15 - 00:07:36 | Speaker 2:

Excellent. Well, thank you for putting him on our radar because you're right. We do LiveWire in the Pacific Northwest, and we can always use more talented folks from the area. Speaking of which, we'll be at Benaroya Hall. I think it's December 5th, I think. We'll be there on the 5th. I can't tell you exactly who's on the show. Probably Phil Burton. Probably. Everybody come on out.

00:07:36 - 00:07:41 | Speaker 1:

I have not seen Phil Burton perform, so you still want to do your vetting, obviously.

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I don't know. I'll do my vetting cup.

00:07:43 - 00:07:48 | Speaker 1:

That sounds like the word. Are you excited for the vetting cup? I am excited for the vetting cup, absolutely.

00:07:49 - 00:07:54 | Speaker 2:

Was it super windy at your house overnight, or is that just down here high above the mighty Columbia?

00:07:54 - 00:08:24 | Speaker 1:

Not that I noticed. I am dealing with the darkness today, as you mentioned. It's rainy and very dark outside my window. I even noticed when I turned on all my lights in this room, because we do put video cameras on us for this recording, even though we don't post the whole show online as video. So I have a couple of ring lights in here and stuff, And in the summertime, they don't have to work that hard, but I can really feel them working today. It was really dark when I came in here. We were talking about your studio. It looked like you were joining me from the crypt when I first dialed up. That was interesting. It didn't look bad, by the way. It looked really cool.

00:08:25 - 00:08:56 | Speaker 2:

But it was weirdly dark in here because I'm just sitting inside of a rain cloud. I'm also, I think my house is maybe at, I want to say, like 500 feet of elevation. I'm not sure how high off of the river I am, but I think sometimes it's even more pronounced here Because I'm kind of closer to where the clouds are And so it just gets I get really, really kind of socked in And yeah, I really did this At about four I had my bedroom window kind of open To get a little fresh air With Terry Gross And I'm Dave Davies, in for Terry Gross

00:08:56 - 00:09:00 | Speaker 1:

Oh, is that the show where you Create a theme? What is the verb?

00:09:01 - 00:10:00 | Speaker 2:

I'm Terry Gross, each week on our show we pick a theme This week's theme, Dave Davies filling in for me um but uh and i just i just heard this just the wind just like shrieking and again i think some of that is because it's pronounced up here where i am because i'm on kind of on the edge of this hill there are some houses near me but not in the way your neighborhood is set up where you've kind of got the protection although you guys are on a corner as well don't dox andrew and genevieve and bingo please but like there's some my house is kind of very exposed to the elements and all i could think when i basically didn't get any good sleep after 4 a.m because the wind was howling and all i could think of i could just picture the cushions on my outdoor deck chairs just tumbling down the hill and into the mighty columbia and it was like literally all i could think about but i also didn't want to get out of bed and deal with it so instead i just stayed in bed worried about it fitfully like sleeping slash non-sleeping just imagine

00:10:00 - 00:10:22 | Speaker 1:

Imagining all of the different outdoor furniture that I should have taken in a couple of weeks ago But, you know, we kept getting these nice days and I just kept not, you know That is a big changing of the seasons around here for me is like getting all that stuff off of the deck And I've got some other stuff set up kind of on a patio out here I've got like an umbrella, you know, one of those kind of, you know, that goes in the middle of a table To have a little nice lunch and shade

00:10:22 - 00:10:27 | Speaker 2:

The whole point of those is that the wind catches them and blows them down the street or down the beach, right?

00:10:27 - 00:10:43 | Speaker 1:

you have to yes and i had one i had kind of an expensive one that i bought a couple of years ago that was closed right their umbrella was not open and it was so windy that it opened the umbrella and mary poppins the shit out of it yeah and uh and so i got a new umbrella but i'm not taking

00:10:43 - 00:11:06 | Speaker 2:

that chance mama didn't raise no fool can i make a recommendation for the new umbrella i don't know how you plan on storing it but get yourself like a little little carry-on size bag and it looks like it won't hold the full umbrella but just take the umbrella and just put it down there pull first and just start feeding it in the bag my guess is the whole thing will end up fitting right in there it's not going to look like it's going to fit right i'll bet you it will just give it a shot

00:11:06 - 00:11:41 | Speaker 1:

okay speaking of umbrellas i we also are now at the place in the season where i have to use an umbrella to go between my house and the madrona hill studio and i have a system i have i have an umbrella in each place i have an umbrella here and i have umbrella down in the house and they They're hanging by their respective doors. It's like that crossing guard thing where you get to an intersection. It's got a flag you can take because it's not that far between my house and the studio, but it's far enough that when it is absolutely just pouring rain like it was this morning, it's actually a significant amount of rain that gets on me between the house and the studio.

00:11:41 - 00:12:05 | Speaker 2:

I'm not joking. I think you need three umbrellas. We've talked about this before because there could be a chance that you— And I need one sack. I need a sack of rain. Three umbrellas. And a scorpion. Yes. I think that, yeah, because you're going to end up with two umbrellas in one place on a day where the rain has paused, and then you're going to be in the wrong place. Right, that's the danger. Yeah, you need three in place. That's the danger, I think, yeah.

00:12:05 - 00:12:12 | Speaker 1:

Is a changing weather pattern. But other than that, like I said, I'm doing pretty well today. Hey, do you have any big weekend plans?

00:12:12 - 00:12:36 | Speaker 2:

Big weekend. The biggest one I've ever had. Big weekend. Well, I believe my weekend already began, and it began with me feeling insecure about using the word wrapped before. I said that song had me wrapped as a child, the leader of the pact, and then I got insecure about it. And so I wrapped it up.

00:12:36 - 00:12:36 | Speaker 1:

Wrapped attention.

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R-A-P-T. I just wasn't sure if I used it properly, like kind of with the proper syntax. So I looked it up, and the good news is, yes, I did use it correctly, but check this out. But the automatic dictionary dot com, you know, the definition that pops up immediately when you Google it. Yeah. It uses my name in the example. It freaked me out, Luke. It feels like it's spooking season. Like you like to say. So when you look it up, it says wrapped adjective, completely fascinated by one by what one is seeing or hearing. And that's exactly what I was talking about. But then it says, as an example, wrapped. Andrew looked at her wrapped. That's that's eerie. eerie creep me out a little bit i there's no way it's like my computer knows my name right well let me say it no uh you look up a definition and see if it puts your name in it

00:13:26 - 00:13:40 | Speaker 1:

okay uh let's see what's another um um scurrilous okay so you want me the things you're about to hear about me next week andrew i'd like to oh i would like to get ahead of them and say those

00:13:40 - 00:13:54 | Speaker 2:

are scurrilous so sounds like you do have big weekend plans which we'll get to in a moment Let's see. The example here is a scurrilous attack on his integrity. It just says his, not Luke's integrity or Andrew's integrity. So it probably is an example. This weekend, I'm...

00:13:54 - 00:14:11 | Speaker 1:

Is it me or are these pronunciations getting kind of sexual? Oh, I think it's you. Listen to this little breathy read of scurrilous. Scurrilous. I feel like there's a little extra something on that. For a word like scurrilous, I feel like they were giving a little extra sauce.

00:14:12 - 00:14:17 | Speaker 2:

Interesting. Maybe it just has to do with your mood, Luke. I'm not exactly sure. I wasn't hearing it.

00:14:17 - 00:14:25 | Speaker 1:

My big weekend plans are I am going to help emcee a pet costume contest. If you want to know how my career is going.

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Did you do that last year?

00:14:27 - 00:14:58 | Speaker 1:

I did. Yeah. It's actually Becca's Brothers Bar, 21st Avenue in Portland. And I did it last year. Actually, you know what's funny? I think last year I did it instead of doing that profile of Kieran Culkin. oh yeah that's right it was like i had been traveling a ton and i was like i'm gonna have some boundaries and i'm gonna actually and they were like well could you come out on saturday and interview this guy and i was like no i'm emceeing a pet costume contest and then of course it was like he ends up winning the oscar it was like well that probably would have been a good

00:14:58 - 00:15:41 | Speaker 2:

story and you and even without the oscar You loved that movie that it was for. You hadn't seen it yet. A real pain. A real pain, yeah. Hey, I have a quick question for you before we get into the details of the pet contest. You said this is at a bar that's on 21st Street? Yeah, 21st Avenue in Portland. See, that would have been perfect. Do we know, Beck, I know you know it, but do we say Becca's brother's name? Sure we can. His name is Scott. So that would have been perfect. It could have been Scott's 21st Amendment because the 21st Amendment, didn't that repeal prohibition? Does it go that high? I think that's one that repealed Prohibition, right? So that's why it would be perfect. Because you mentioned you used to go to a bar called Jackie's Fifth Amendment. Yes. Which is, that's don't incriminate yourself, I think. It's not saying don't incriminate yourself. It's saying you don't have to incriminate yourself.

00:15:41 - 00:15:48 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, Fifth Amendment is pleading the Fifth, right? Yeah, which is still good. Fourth Amendment is the right to not have an unreasonable search and seizure, probably. Nice.

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Is that the Fourth? Don't quiz me, but that sounds right.

00:15:50 - 00:15:52 | Speaker 1:

I don't hear much about the Second.

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I don't know. I think that's freedom of speech. I think the Second Amendment is you have the right to let your freak flag fly. Now, that's an amendment I can get behind. Oh, absolutely. Anyway, it would be interesting if he changed it to Scott's 21st Amendment. Just throw that out there.

00:16:08 - 00:18:35 | Speaker 1:

Scott's 21st Amendment. We'll see if he wants to. I mean, I think what happened was when he bought the bar, I think it was already called that 21st Avenue. And so he then, I think they were sticking with it for sort of consistency. But what they've turned it into is, well, it's a beloved neighborhood bar. And it is also, I mean, the irony of me being now kind of in the family of someone who owns what is without a doubt the karaoke bar in Portland. Like, it's legend. Like, it constantly, every year it wins the, like, you know, Willamette Weeks best of karaoke bars. Which is funny, because if you could have told 25-year-old Luke that I was going to be basically related to someone who's running, and that I have done karaoke there two times and probably never will again. because uh first of all it's always a tremendous weight because it's so popular also guess what andrew guess what the who the clientele is there 25 year old and guess what they're not particularly interested in 49 year old luke burbank's take on the the next great karaoke jam yeah like it's it's like i don't under i'm i find it interesting when i'm there to see what songs light up the room because they're rarely the songs that i would expect it's kind of a mix of songs that i think of as relatively current that are total nostalgia plays for these 25 year olds yeah right yeah you know and then and then new songs that maybe i don't like of course mr bright side always coming out of my cage and i'm feeling just fine or whatever that guy says um but yeah like i i think i think my my swan song there was when Scott and I did an Indigo Girls song and I think it was Closer to Fine and this is before the Barbie movie kind of like sort of sort of you know put that song back in the pop culture I find it so interesting that like I have a whole theory about how that Closer to Fine got into the Barbie movie and it's just because of Greta Gerwig's lived experience like I totally see Greta Gerwig being a person of the age where her liberal parents were probably playing the indigo girls in the volvo and so it became part of the soundtrack of her life much in the way that the soundtrack of my daughter addie's life and then you know many years go by and then when she's looking for a song to put in her movie she goes with the indigo girls and then all these people are like kind of finding out about that music but scott and i did the indigo girls and it went poorly and we also cut to the front of the line because he owns the bar which is a

00:18:35 - 00:18:41 | Speaker 2:

tremendously bad look um well wait till i get down there and do leader of the pack and they're

00:18:41 - 00:18:47 | Speaker 1:

going to be hanging on my they're going to be wrapped they will be so andrew had the crowd

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wrapped in fact maybe i will maybe i'll maybe i'll wrap leader of the pack kind of give my own

00:18:52 - 00:20:03 | Speaker 1:

spin look out look out look out look out that's right same lyrics just a little bit more toot on it i love it put a little more put a little more stank on it my friend yes indeed yes so i'm here's what we're dressing up as so last year we dressed up as uh ben and jerry oh yeah benjamin franklin And I just reused my Ben Franklin costume from the Philadelphia show. And Becca was Jerry Blank from Strangers with Candy. I was very proud of the creativity of that costume pairing. And I think this year we're just going as, like, French, something. And it's just an excuse to put, like, a beret on the dog, Gigi. It's really just because the dog is a standard poodle, which has strong kind of French vibrations. And it's just an excuse to make the dog look cute. and then i think becca's gonna be kind of a you know some sort of cute french appearing person then i'm gonna be like i'm kind of gonna go french mod guy from the 60s so like kind of too small black suit partially smoked cigarette thin black tie and a kind of devil may care attitude Thank you. I don't want to, this is risky business for me, and I don't want to get into your...

00:20:03 - 00:20:10 | Speaker 2:

Are you going as Tom Cruise from Risky Business? Yes. I don't want to get into your... Oversized collar shirt, no pants, Ray-Bans.

00:20:10 - 00:20:30 | Speaker 1:

Your love life or whatever, but have you considered asking Becca if she wants to dress up like the person who says... Scurrilous. Scurrilous? Oh. With that... Yeah. I'll ask. Help in any way, yeah. Because clearly that did something. Are you comfortable asking for something like that? I'm very comfortable asking for what I need. Good. Good. you're a modern man

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I am an absolutely modern man

00:20:32 - 00:20:38 | Speaker 1:

so tell me more about these dogs I don't remember too much about is it dogs only or is it pets

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I think you could bring it's pets but I think it ends up being mostly dogs think about the other pets I'm trying to remember last year if there were non-dogs there I don't think so I think it's open to cats and guinea pigs and the like but it ends up mostly being dogs I'm actually glad I'm not judging it because I actually don't want that kind of pressure. I don't want the smoke. You did do that last year, though, did you not? I think I emceed it last year. I don't think I've ever judged it. And so basically my job is to tap dance as people are walking their dog in kind of a loop so that everybody can. And then the judges are there carefully scoring. And it's interesting. They take it pretty seriously. The judges do, which I kind of like.

00:21:18 - 00:21:23 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, and they're just judging the costumes, not the dog's behavior. This isn't a dog show situation.

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No, it's not a dog show. It is purely... And I think it might have to do actually with the dog and the humans' costumes. I think it has to do with the package. It's a package deal, maybe? I don't know. That's interesting. It was a whole entire year ago that I did this. How can I be expected to remember any of it?

00:21:37 - 00:21:53 | Speaker 1:

Interesting. And now I'm putting you on the spot after what you just said, but do you have any recollection of who might have won last year? No. Or rose to the top of the class? I'm wondering if they tend to lean towards big dogs winning most of the time or small dogs.

00:21:53 - 00:22:08 | Speaker 2:

I don't think that it has to do with the size. I think it's, you know, I think it's, it's, it's just based on, I don't know, whatever the judges, whatever impresses the judges about the, about the, probably originality. I hope originality matters. Yeah. And then, you know, the other thing we're going to do on Sunday.

00:22:08 - 00:22:10 | Speaker 1:

It's all about who you sniff, really, though, Luke.

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And then over here, you've got nepotism. There's somebody, I forget where that's from. There's somebody who describes it. It's like all about, it's all about who knows who. And then over here, you've got nepotism. It might be from one of those Christopher Guest type of films. Sunday, we're going to Halloween Pops at the symphony. It's going to be, we're going to see some orchestral production of scary songs.

00:22:36 - 00:22:48 | Speaker 1:

Interesting. You're doing a lot of front loading of your Halloween festivities because, of course, Halloween itself falls on Friday next week. Are you doing anything? Are we doing anything on TBTL Halloween related?

00:22:48 - 00:22:54 | Speaker 2:

I hope so. I thought, I heard you were running a pet dress up costume contest at your house. I am.

00:22:54 - 00:23:02 | Speaker 1:

It's a way to try to, like, dog nap all of the neighborhood dogs so that I can have that validation every time I come home. Just have a hundred dogs.

00:23:02 - 00:23:03 | Speaker 2:

Check in with your neighbors on that.

00:23:03 - 00:23:39 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly. By the way, I saw one of my neighbors yesterday, and she thanked us for watching the dogs. And we had a very quick but very sweet interaction. And I was totally reminded of why I like those guys. And so that was kind of nice. Okay, so beef squashed. Yeah, we didn't, like, really chat about anything substantial. I just said, you know, we mentioned how much we love their dogs and that we're now thinking, you know. So Genevieve's been, you know, like going through looking at a lot of dog pictures. It's tough because we don't want to get ahead of ourselves. We, you know, we have a trip planned in March. We definitely don't want to adopt a dog before that. If we even do definitely want to adopt a dog, which is still a conversation. But once you get to the phase.

00:23:39 - 00:23:40 | Speaker 2:

You do definitely want to adopt a dog.

00:23:40 - 00:25:30 | Speaker 1:

Well, the one thing is, Vives and I met for like sort of a happy hour-ish drink the other night. and I had this nagging sort of feeling and I was going to turn to her and be like, well, we should get back and I was like, oh, we don't have to, we're not responsible for dogs right now and I had this moment of, and I can't explain to you how fleeting this whole emotional journey was. It was a split second but for a second, I was like, oh, we don't have to get back because bingo's fine. You know what I mean? We'll give bingo some kibble when we get home and it was a sense of freedom that I mentioned to Genevieve. She's like, yeah, that's just something that we definitely want to talk about. So we're leaning, I think we're leaning towards it. And once you start looking at photos on your phone, and Genevieve's been kind of using all the searches to filter what we need, which is, you know, not a super new puppy, a dog that has a proven track record with cats, that's a weird way of putting it. Sounds like a tire company. We have a proven track record with cats. But honestly, the thing is, and I told Veeza, this is a dangerous game. She's like, well, we got to start having the conversations early. And I said, I know, but it's also a dangerous game when you start looking into doggy's eyes and you're looking because then you're just like, oh, well, yes, we have to adopt every dog you showed me tonight so far. And we'll figure it out later. I mean, a couple of things. one just remember uh when you get your dog and when your dog is you know growed up or maybe you'll get a dog that's already growed up or whatever you will likely hit a point where you can still live your life and have fun and the dog will be fine like i think this i mean you know this i'm not telling you anything but the circumstances under which you were there was intense dog responsibility the last week for you and uh the good news is i think that there's a world where where you and Genevieve can have an awesome dog you love and also an awesome drink that you love.

00:25:31 - 00:25:44 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and also, it's not like I don't, it's not like, you know, of all the people in the world to say, I don't want it to interfere with my lifestyle, it's like pretty galling because I'm the person who says I don't even get out all that much anyway. So, I mean, obviously-

00:25:44 - 00:25:48 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know what I don't like about this? This is another excuse for you to not do stuff. Right.

00:25:49 - 00:26:41 | Speaker 2:

But I- This is a built-in. But anyway, but there is just still sort of a, I mean, everybody knows that the responsibility of taking care of a dog is more than a cat a cat is going to be more independent and you can it's easier to feed you have to get home to take them out like there's no there's no doubt there's no arguing that and so it's a little bit more responsibility but we are uh looking at uh we're looking at dogs and i don't think we want to adopt anything any dog that's probably younger than a year old we want a little bit of maturity there and again some opportunity to know that the dog had or well that was the original plan going into this um but then again thinking like a more mature dog that already has some experience with cats but then genevieve's doing some more reading and saying actually maybe if you integrate a puppy and a cat yes together early on that is actually maybe the best way to do it but then then you're training a puppy and training puppies is hard so

00:26:41 - 00:27:36 | Speaker 1:

fun is so hard so fun yeah so well i mean i have to say like i don't know i mean let's see uh but so flea was a puppy momo was not a puppy and then rudy was a puppy so i guess i've had experience with two puppies and i mean i don't know maybe i just got lucky with those two dogs when they were younger but i don't remember it being like a living nightmare at all i mean obviously there's it's time intensive and there's some accidents and things like that but i i i the cuteness factor i mean that just that that you you want to hang out with them all the time because are so stinking cute yeah um yeah so uh yeah i i somehow i don't know how this happened but like i was looking at one of my local newspapers out here the other day and i i got zergnet into like a dog adoption thing i'm not trying to get a dog i'm not actively looking but it was just one of

00:27:36 - 00:27:43 | Speaker 2:

those things one of those really buff dogs look at this where's this buff dog gone today it was

00:27:43 - 00:28:29 | Speaker 1:

like it was weird it was like a really old dog but he was buff and hot you know that guy i'm talking about yes that's what i mean with really hot old buff guy right it's like what is this even a freaking ad for yeah what isn't an ad i don't know because i don't dare click on it but it's like i see that guy a lot yeah but uh you know it's one of those things where in the weird digital world that we live in i'm i'm scrolling around the daily news or whatever which again is so funny It's such a general name for the newspaper of Longview, Washington. It really is. But I end up on somehow it's like, oh, this is a dog that's up for adoption. And, of course, it was a very cute dog. And I somehow clicked on it. And then I'm holding off a sneeze, by the way, which is why I'm.

00:28:29 - 00:28:35 | Speaker 2:

I have an observation I can throw out here if you want to kind of take some time to breathe through your nose and get a sneeze going. I was going to say that.

00:28:35 - 00:28:35 | Speaker 1:

I just got it out.

00:28:35 - 00:28:44 | Speaker 2:

Oh, you got it out. Well, I will finish this thought. I'll make it quick. The Daily News makes me think that any reporter who works there, Luke, might also be a superhero in disguise, just so you know.

00:28:45 - 00:28:54 | Speaker 1:

Right. Totally sounds like a—I guess it's a real newspaper, right? Because the Daily Planet is a real paper, but it is staffed by at least one superhero.

00:28:54 - 00:28:56 | Speaker 2:

Yes, that we know of.

00:28:56 - 00:28:57 | Speaker 1:

And one very grumpy boss.

00:28:57 - 00:29:03 | Speaker 2:

I mean, there might be a whole other perspective. Like, that might be a whole bunch of superheroes working there. We only know the one story.

00:29:03 - 00:29:15 | Speaker 1:

also think about being one of the other employees of the daily planet and you're like we are really honestly picking up a lot of a lot of slack for clark oh i thought you were

00:29:15 - 00:29:30 | Speaker 2:

gonna say we're really leaning into this one superman story like it is a phenomenon and it's worth covering but like there's the zone there's so much stuff going on in city hall there's like some important stuff going on and all were like front page every day is superman does this superman

00:29:30 - 00:29:54 | Speaker 1:

does that i was thinking more like it's like we need like okay oh shit okay superman is fighting lex luther again clark can where's clark is he supposed to be covering this i don't he's is he at lunch he's gone again and then it's like lois lane or whomever else it's like just think about the experience of working with clark kent and how disappointing that would be at a certain point

00:29:54 - 00:30:29 | Speaker 2:

but you know that he's going to come back with the story at the end anyway with the quotes from Thank you.

00:30:00 - 00:30:16 | Speaker 1:

superman though so like does he do that though that yeah yeah i think that he's got access to superman because i remember in one of the movies and it's a it's a it's one of the rough movies it might be like superman 4 or something like that oh i'm gonna mess this up i know it's part

00:30:16 - 00:30:23 | Speaker 2:

of the marvel universe john um but by the way i was wrong about the basketball player his

00:30:23 - 00:31:38 | Speaker 1:

name is i don't know i don't know you i i saw a correction from john on some basketball stuff today i didn't understand any of it and i didn't know what it referred to uh you don't care to find out i do not care to find out but um i do believe that there's like this there's this conversation between lois lane and clark just like in a private moment superman and lois i'm pretty sure this is the this is margot kidder and oh oh so the okay c-o-g yeah why can't i think of superman's name uh christopher reeve weird that i had margot kidder dialed up but not christopher read honestly what is going on there but anyway um they're in a you know they're in like her apartment or something and she's like boy you know you always get all these quotes or she was somehow criticizing him she knew that he was superman at this point and she said well then let me interview superman right now and so he you know still looking like clark kent sits down for an interview but then it gets a little uh gets a little hot under the collar honestly she keeps pushing him on these things and kind of is this a i think it's from the og series but i could be misremembering that but uh anyway so i do think there's this understanding that clark kent is not only kind of disappearing on the scene when all the action is going down but i think at the end of the day he's coming back with a lot of quotes and stuff from superman because he's the he's like

00:31:38 - 00:32:19 | Speaker 2:

the source or superman is his source yeah then that's then that actually justifies kind of his you know fact that he's exactly that he's generally missing in action but as long as he's coming back with the quotes then i'm into that anyway i'm on the daily news and then i'm on this buff dog website yeah and and then like don't even what i would say is if you're not if you're not at a place in your life where you want to adopt a dog do not under any circumstances click on anything related to dog adoption because i went down and by the way these dogs were in like new jersey new joisy like because of the weirdness of how the internet works like it wasn't they all

00:32:19 - 00:32:24 | Speaker 1:

smoked cigars for some reason all the dogs were just half trying to make it look fake

00:32:24 - 00:33:09 | Speaker 2:

that's just a melding of various cigar related humor that's the driving crooner meets a dog from new jersey gotta find a way to monetize it's simply too good um but like so maybe the first dog was local but then it suddenly i'm looking at like i'm looking at dogs that are from new jersey and other for texas and i'm and i'm literally thinking like well could i fly there and fly the dog back and then i'm like this just makes no sense but i'm like but what if i lose all my jobs then i don't have anything to do i could do this like i go completely crazy sometimes where i'm like like i'm i'm not making concrete plans but i'm thinking about ways in which i could maybe personally escort one of these dogs back from across the country are you now getting

00:33:09 - 00:33:18 | Speaker 1:

a lot of puppy-related ads across all of your platforms now? Has this gotten into your algorithm?

00:33:19 - 00:33:30 | Speaker 2:

No. Surprisingly, it hasn't happened yet from that. What I am getting is a lot of boot-related content on my Instagram because I'm trying to expand my footwear.

00:33:30 - 00:34:16 | Speaker 1:

Luke, I have made the big... I was making fun of John for criticizing me for always messing up the DC Marvel thing. And I just made, not only was it not, it was not an OG movie. It was literally the latest Superman movie. Oh, the David Korn set. I was like, why was I watching Superman 4 recently? Because I remember I was watching parts of Superman 4 a couple of Thons ago when we were in your neck of the woods. And I thought that I saw this scene from a classic movie. It is definitely not Margot Kidder. I'll tell you that much right now. This is the latest Superman movie that I was quoting as being from the rough Superman 4. I have very mixed feelings, by the way, about the latest Superman movie. We don't have to get into it now. Yeah.

00:34:16 - 00:34:19 | Speaker 2:

I know you were excited about it because you're a big, is it James Gunn?

00:34:19 - 00:34:35 | Speaker 1:

And I wouldn't say I'm a big James Gunn fan, but there were things that I had seen that I really liked. And I trust him to take over like a superhero franchise, you know, because otherwise I'd have no interest in a Superman movie. And I thought it was I thought it was OK, but I missed the mark on a lot of things, too.

00:34:35 - 00:34:37 | Speaker 2:

And also, it clearly made an impression on you. Yeah, right.

00:34:37 - 00:34:52 | Speaker 1:

You thought it was starring Marco Kidder. I just love that I got shirty by saying, listen, I think I know what I'm talking about here. It was Superman 4, and I saw it in 1983. No, I saw it like two months ago, and it was none of the people I said.

00:34:52 - 00:35:00 | Speaker 2:

I just want to say that I, yesterday, speaking of corrections from our good friend and colleague, John Sklaroff, I was mistaken about the...

00:35:00 - 00:35:26 | Speaker 1:

timberwolves player who was uh beating the uh the portland trailblazers on our home court and like celebrating at the end in this very triumphant way that player is actually named anthony edwards aka ant man i think they should call him dr green i think that would be a sick name because that's the name is that er yes that's anthony edwards of er i think his name is dr green

00:35:26 - 00:35:27 | Speaker 2:

They should call him Goose.

00:35:28 - 00:35:38 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly. There you go. Even better. They should call him Goose. I mean, the fact that we're not talking about the fact that he has the same name as Dr. Green, a.k.a. Goose. That's pretty good.

00:35:38 - 00:35:44 | Speaker 2:

I like Dr. Green better because it's more obscure. Like most people would kind of get Goose, but I love that.

00:35:44 - 00:38:39 | Speaker 1:

They're extremely different fellers in the world, let's just say. but um hey speaking of speaking of that whole basketball kind of i guess you could say scandal alleged scandal that's going on that's really that story has really become kind of the dominant news story of this week and it's weird because it's like on the one hand you've got you know cash patel noted podcaster and chief of the fbi who i i have very little faith in the the things that he brings to the table and the investigations that he's heading and the priorities of the current version of the FBI. But also the story is quite intriguing. What I'm really kind of getting into right now is just the nicknames involved in particularly the Chauncey Billups side of this whole thing. So that's the poker scandal, right? That's the poker scandal, which for people that aren't up to speed on this, there's sort of two, there's two scandals that are happening. One of them is a player named Terry Rozier, who I think was on the Heat at the time. Um, or, or I can't remember what team he was on, but basically the allegation is that he, uh, told, uh, his friends to bet on the under. In other words, to bet on him having less statistics, like less, less points scored, et cetera, than he normally would. And then in the game that he told them to do that, he took himself out complaining of foot pain because there are all these prop bets, not to get too into the weeds on the gambling, but the big issue, the thing that, the reason I've always thought that sports gambling is, actually a harder thing like by that I mean the idea of fixing a like a basketball game or a football game point shaving they used to call it the reason I've always thought that actually that was tougher than people thought and wasn't a huge threat was because it's actually kind of hard for one person to affect the point spread unless they happen to be in on the thing and they're like at the free throw line at late in the game and it's hovering around where the line is and then they miss on purpose like a lot has to kind of break right for one player to be able to personally change the point you know the outcome of the game so that's why i was always like i just don't see that happening unless you got the whole team on board and they were like doing some globetrotter shit where they're all like you know somebody brings up a bowl of a like a bucket of popcorn but or water but then they throw it it's confetti why is that music playing exactly sweet georgia brown is playing somewhere in the middle of a heat game but the thing is you've got all these things called prop bets and the prop bets are where it gets crazy because one player i mean one of the prop bets is how many points is this player going to get in this quarter yeah that's a prop bet well that's very very easy for one player to impact as is the allegation against this terry rozier guy and like i mean the one thing i'll say is like and this is something i think a lot of people are probably saying online like how unshocked are we that the fact that

00:38:39 - 00:39:15 | Speaker 1:

Sports gambling has absolutely taken over all of the sports in terms of the broadcast rights to the sports, all of the ads that play. When we were watching, when the Mariners were in the ALCS, literally like Fox. Oh, by the way, I absolutely detest FS1 as a baseball broadcast entity. Two things. One, the fact that they literally like, here's the parlay. Did you notice that? Like, the TV broadcast would start with their branded, whatever it was, FanDuel or one of those betting sites. Like, the announcers are saying, here's the three, here's the parlay for today. Like, the announcers.

00:39:15 - 00:39:24 | Speaker 3:

No, I did not see that. I didn't watch much of the pre-games. I saw a couple of, like, the, you know, them, each person making their picks or whatever, but I didn't see that branded content.

00:39:25 - 00:39:29 | Speaker 1:

The other thing I hated was how subtle they made the strike zone box.

00:39:29 - 00:39:39 | Speaker 3:

Yes! Thank you! It led to so much confusion. I thought maybe it was because I was using some extra legal feeds that maybe it was bad on my end. That's a decision that they made.

00:39:39 - 00:39:58 | Speaker 1:

And so then, remember I told you I was watching some of the games on HBO, like the Dodgers-Brewers games? Those ones had the normal strike box. Nice. An illuminated white rectangle box that's very easy to see when the ball makes contact or not. FS1 decided to go with the less is more approach. And didn't replay it either.

00:39:58 - 00:40:00 | Speaker 3:

The way Root Sports will be like, look at...

00:40:00 - 00:40:11 | Speaker 2:

You know, you can see, like, well, this was called a strike, and then we'll do, like, kind of a 3D graphic of exactly where the ball landed. They were never showing it. They were never going back and showing whether or not it was a good call or a bet.

00:40:11 - 00:41:38 | Speaker 1:

Super frustrating. But, again, the idea that, like, sports, you know, betting websites have absolutely taken over the funding of all of these. Again, it's the media side of it, but every single ad seems like it's for betting. And then they've just – it's just so integrated. And then it's like, are we shocked that we're starting to get stories like this about Terry Rozier? But on the other side, you've got Chauncey Billups, the Portland Trailblazers head coach, who is alleged to have been part of this, these poker games that were going on in various places where it's also funny to me that like, you know, Chauncey Billups was a great, he's a Hall of Fame basketball player for the Detroit Pistons. He's a, you know, like he's a, you know, I guess you could say he was a great NBA player, but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that if I'm like some, if I'm some rich dude who wants to donk off my money, as we would say at the poker table, I don't feel like Chauncey Billups is such a draw for me. Because the allegation is that you had these games that were set up, these illegal poker games that were run by, like, the Bonanno crime family and the Genoveses and all these, like, old school names from, like, the mafia times. They were running these poker games that were illegal that were set up for these people to lose, these regular people that had a bunch of money to lose. And the attraction, they were called the face cards, were the Chauncey Billipses of the world, who were then paid out later. um have you heard about some of the technology that they allege just glancingly i was going to

00:41:38 - 00:41:48 | Speaker 2:

ask you about it i heard it's something about like maybe cameras underneath an x-ray table or something yeah spy glasses i don't but i don't know x-ray glasses um it's something called a chip

00:41:48 - 00:42:10 | Speaker 1:

reader uh something that could read the cards a a particular shuffler that could shuffle the cards so that a particular player in a particular position would get better cards and then the other people get worse cards like these games if these allegations are true these games sound so incredibly rigged it's wild the most concerning thing and i don't know if this is true or not or

00:42:10 - 00:42:14 | Speaker 2:

if you saw it in what you were reading but according to cash patel apparently somebody

00:42:14 - 00:43:20 | Speaker 1:

wrote antifa and some of the poker chips yes that's definitely something that they're looking into and very strongly yeah so what i was struck by i'm trying to find the exact uh the list of some of these names but uh the um some of the guys that were uh alleged to be part of this from the kind of um from the uh organized crime side of it they all just have great like i'm trying where's this list i had it somewhere oh here we go so the guys that were uh alleged to have been from the from the organized crime side running these various games was a guy whose name was Flappy Government name Amar Awada There was a guy called Black Rob Real name Robert Stroud Sleepy on the list There was a guy There was a guy named The Wrestler Who's Matthew Dadino There was a guy named Juice That's Thomas Gallardo And my favorite guy There was a guy named Albanian Bruce Or alternately Big Bruce

00:43:20 - 00:43:22 | Speaker 2:

Oh man That's your Albanian brother

00:43:22 - 00:43:33 | Speaker 1:

There was another guy named Fat Nick Who was just like Come on, right out of central mob casting Hey, Fat Nick has got this under control I like that What would my name be?

00:43:33 - 00:43:34 | Speaker 2:

Did you say there was somebody named Flappy?

00:43:34 - 00:43:36 | Speaker 1:

Didn't we come up with our mob names at some point?

00:43:37 - 00:43:44 | Speaker 2:

Did we use one of those online We did We used an online mob name generator Or something along those lines

00:43:44 - 00:43:53 | Speaker 1:

I mean, I feel like I could be Albanian Luke I know, you certainly could be I'm kind of mad that Bruce already took Bruce already stepped on my name, Albanian Luke. But anyway.

00:44:03 - 00:44:05 | Speaker 2:

Thank you, baby.

00:44:06 - 00:44:22 | Speaker 1:

All right, let's thank some of our donors today. These folks have not been caught up in an illegal poker scheme. That you know of. I mean, you're right. Where do you think this money comes from? Well, not from those games They were rigged

00:44:22 - 00:44:30 | Speaker 2:

You said they haven't been caught You didn't say they haven't been involved with I guess that's what I'm saying These folks would be running illegal

00:44:30 - 00:44:35 | Speaker 1:

I'm saying if these people had been involved with those games They would have been fleeced And they would have no money to donate to TBTL That's true

00:44:35 - 00:44:42 | Speaker 2:

I like to think these folks have their own game set up And they're raking it in They're running their own poker games

00:44:42 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 1:

That's my accusation against Heather Rowe Well, you know what It's a Robin Hood situation. They call her Heather Robin Hood Row. She steals from the rich and then donates to TBTL. Heather is in Sellins Grove, Pennsylvania. Thank you, Heather. It's our friend Leanne Gass.

00:45:00 - 00:45:03 | Speaker 2:

Checking in from Phoenix, Arizona.

00:45:03 - 00:45:04 | Speaker 1:

Nice.

00:45:04 - 00:45:06 | Speaker 2:

Look, what's the weather in Phoenix?

00:45:06 - 00:45:16 | Speaker 1:

I bet you it's nicer. I wonder what Leanne's nickname is when she's using that x-ray poker table cheating shuffle machine.

00:45:17 - 00:45:36 | Speaker 2:

Romanian. They call her Romanian Leanne. Leanne, the Romanian guest. Hey, you know what I'm thinking, Andrew? By the way, it's going to be a high of 84 today. in Phoenix, Arizona. Oh, that sounds nice. We need to organize another spring training trip, I think.

00:45:36 - 00:45:56 | Speaker 1:

Oh, that would be great. And now is actually, no joke, the right time to start thinking about it because spring training always really sneaks up on me. And if we want to do a TBTL trip, by the way, we did book our tickets. Genevieve booked our tickets. I am going to Vegas to celebrate our 25th anniversary in January. I'll get you those dates.

00:45:57 - 00:46:04 | Speaker 2:

Nice. Thanks, Allie Port in New Orleans, Louisiana. Have you ever been to New Orleans, Louisiana?

00:46:04 - 00:46:15 | Speaker 1:

I have. My friend Shay lives there, and I went to her wedding, and we were all marched down the street. Oh, you did one of those? The second line. Like the second line? After the wedding. The second line started in the wedding.

00:46:15 - 00:46:19 | Speaker 2:

That seems like something that might cause you to feel a certain amount of angst.

00:46:19 - 00:47:06 | Speaker 1:

No, it was great. I got myself a nice white suit for the occasion. It was incredibly joyful. It really was. That's awesome. It sounds corny to say that, but it was just like nothing I'd ever been a part of before. And like literally you were upstairs in this nice kind of classic space. I think it was above a museum maybe even, this ballroom or something. And then everybody's dancing and I think there's a DJ or whatever. But then the band shows up and like starts playing just like kind of – I think they might just – they start playing downstairs and suddenly they're upstairs and everybody just starts dancing. And then like almost organically just sort of get into a line. and you don't even realize what's happening. The next thing you know, you're just like through the streets of New Orleans with your whole wedding. It was incredible, yeah. Sad they're not together anymore.

00:47:06 - 00:47:07 | Speaker 2:

But what a time.

00:47:07 - 00:47:15 | Speaker 1:

Allie, I don't know if you ever plan on getting married or renewing your vows or anything along those lines, but if you want to invite me and Genevieve, you know how to get a hold of me.

00:47:16 - 00:47:47 | Speaker 2:

Yes. Amy Mazzoni is in Mill Creek, Washington. Hey, thank you, Amy. Thank you, Amy. Appreciate you. Oh, no, Andrew. Let me see. Let me get the blue-in-the-face soundtrack up. How did this? I want to agonizingly play some soul-coughing music to try to figure out how to pronounce part of the last name of our next donor, who is Sarah Longino DeKalb.

00:47:48 - 00:48:12 | Speaker 1:

Or DeKalb. Or DeKalb. This is so ironic, because we had a listener that we were thanking who was in Decatur, Georgia. We didn't even have to say DeKalb, but we were talking about Decatur, Georgia, and somehow that led to a conversation about DeKalb County. Maybe Decatur's in DeKalb. I don't know. But then you said there's a subway stop that you think is called DeKalb that's in New York, and we say DeKalb. DeKalb. I'm sorry. You know me and Els, anyway.

00:48:12 - 00:48:15 | Speaker 2:

Based on the way that that guy sings it in that one song.

00:48:15 - 00:48:26 | Speaker 1:

And then, let me see here. Is this the appropriate time to play this? I think it is. I had a—we got a voicemail from television's Chris Hayes all about DeKalb and DeKalb. I had it on my desktop. I can't find it.

00:48:26 - 00:48:27 | Speaker 2:

I didn't even know about this.

00:48:27 - 00:48:32 | Speaker 1:

I'll play it for you later on in the show so we don't have to interrupt things here. All right.

00:48:32 - 00:48:40 | Speaker 2:

Well, thank you, Sarah Longino DeKalb. That's so ironic. I love it. In Moxie, Washington. Moxie.

00:48:40 - 00:48:42 | Speaker 1:

Nice. All right. Well, thank you very much.

00:48:42 - 00:49:01 | Speaker 2:

And then also thanks, of course, to Lloyd Christensen. Hey, Lloyd. That's right. Lloyd is in Bellingham. Hey, Lloyd. In Bellingham, Washington, the Bay City. Nice. I love that place I gotta get back up By the way, Rudy turned 82 In dog years

00:49:01 - 00:49:05 | Speaker 1:

Oh, I was trying to figure out What Rudy were talking about

00:49:05 - 00:49:17 | Speaker 2:

I gotta get back to Bellingham and maybe say howdy doody To Rudy the dog Rudy is 80 I got like a text from Carrie Guess who turned 82 And I was like, oh, I didn't think your dad was that old It's like a picture of Rudy

00:49:17 - 00:49:25 | Speaker 1:

So is that 82 divided by 7? Well, yeah Well, then, so Rudy turned 11.7 years old?

00:49:25 - 00:49:32 | Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, maybe we were rounding up or down. I don't think we're celebrating 11.7. I think 11, so maybe whatever that, so maybe not quite 82.

00:49:32 - 00:49:39 | Speaker 1:

I see. Oh, I see. Yeah, because, okay, if seven, you would, okay, yes. So whatever that adds up to. Yeah, okay.

00:49:39 - 00:49:55 | Speaker 2:

But, yeah, I got to get back to Bellingham is the point, because I love that city, and I love all of our donors. Thank you so much for making TBTL possible on this rainy, gloomy Friday. You're lighting a warm, cozy fire in my heart. by continuing to support TBTL. So thank you so much.

00:50:00 - 00:50:29 | Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to Top Story. I've noticed, Andrew, that I have started going on to Blue Sky again, which is, I guess, a little bit surprising to me because when Twitter and then X or whatever they're calling it these days kind of took a heel turn, I got off of Twitter. But I was always looking for something to fill the Twitter-shaped hole in my life, and I feel like I thought it was going to maybe be threads.

00:50:29 - 00:50:33 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, that thing that was an Instagram thing or a meta thing or whatever.

00:50:34 - 00:50:49 | Speaker 1:

And then, you know, that didn't really take, and then I thought it was going to be Blue Sky, and I kind of got on Blue Sky, and a bunch of people got on Blue Sky. But then I just sort of didn't, I didn't find myself going there as often. I know that you kind of stayed with it.

00:50:50 - 00:50:54 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got on Blue Sky a long time ago. You actually mocked me for it, and here you are.

00:50:55 - 00:51:50 | Speaker 1:

Well, so I sort of just forgot about it a bit. And then I, um, when the, I kind of did a little bit, I think of what you did, which was like when the Mariners, basically when the Mariners, you know, post-season stuff was happening, I, I was really, I was hungry, I was hungry for like Mariners content. And I also wanted to like go, I want to interact with Mariners fans who maybe I didn't even know. And, uh, let's be honest, I was over posting in the, um, criminals text chain and I needed somewhere else to go with my feelings. And so I started going back on Blue Sky, and I found it very kind of – it was scratching that itch for me of just like kind of what I used to get a little bit from Twitter, from just this community of people. I'm trying to find – by the way, I'm stalling because I'm trying to find this data point that Mina Kimes posted about interaction on Blue Sky relating to sports posts. Oh, yeah.

00:51:50 - 00:52:08 | Speaker 2:

I saw these stats going around. I wasn't sure where the source was, though, so I wasn't sure how much trust to put in them. But about interaction, like comparing in the world of sports, interaction amongst tweets versus interaction amongst Blue Sky posts.

00:52:09 - 00:52:16 | Speaker 1:

And I'm trying to get back to this post, but the thing is, Andrew, I don't know if you are aware of this, nobody posts more than Mina Kimes.

00:52:16 - 00:52:17 | Speaker 2:

Yes, I do know.

00:52:17 - 00:53:50 | Speaker 1:

I mean, it's breathtaking, just the sheer output, so it's making it impossible for me to actually go and find this little data point. But the takeaway from it was it would appear anyway, again, I don't have the source material, but I trust Mina to be linking to reliable data. Basically, what it seemed like was that there are sports posts on Blue Sky are getting a lot more interaction than than sports posts on Twitter. And I just kind of wondered if if like there is some sort of shift that's happening, if maybe just for sports stuff, at least Blue Sky is actually becoming the place to hang out because, you know, Twitter is pretty toxic and is pretty right wing now and stuff. And so I don't know. Have you seen any evidence of that? Do you feel like I mean, you're not on. Oh, here we go. This is this is the post from somebody named Harry on Blue Sky. This guy might actually I think he's from the Blue Sky team. So take this a little bit with a grain of salt because it's kind of like Blue Sky hyping itself up. Right. But here's what this person who works for Blue Sky said. A note for sports. Blue Sky's engagement rate was 10x higher than X's across a sampling of identical posts made on both platforms. For what it's worth, we see a similar trend across all communities, not just sports. Real people, real conversations. Now, again, that's Blue Sky trying to, you know, hype itself up. But I wonder if this indicates something. In other words, I think what they're saying is if you post the same post on Blue Sky and on X, you're getting more interaction on Blue Sky.

00:53:50 - 00:55:00 | Speaker 2:

that's what they're saying yeah which is interesting yeah yeah i definitely am involved with like a small cadre of mariners fans on blue sky and there's a lot of interaction like there are people who i have no idea what they even look like because they're using i don't know julio rodriguez as an avatar or something actually i have a wow this is taking us into a weird place i actually have a somewhat tricky topic that i think i might want to ask you about this is one that I think I wanted to maybe ask you off air, but I'll ask you on air. This is for real. I want to be very careful the way I say this. I think that white people, and I'm totally, by the way, I'm totally ready. I'm totally ready to be talked out of this opinion, okay? Okay. But I think that white people shouldn't use avatars of famous black people. I couldn't agree more. Because a lot of people do that. Like there's a fella that I follow and I know that his avatar is like sort of a, almost a psychedelic Photoshopped, but it is a photo of.

00:55:00 - 00:56:17 | Speaker 1:

julio rodriguez's face but when i'm scrolling quickly i've always i just don't i'm not like separating it out and there's small icons or whatever and you're the point is you're supposed to recognize oh that's marshawn lynch like i'm not i don't think this person looks like marshawn lynch or whatever but in your head when you're just like kind of a casual contact of somebody for a long time you think that and for me i'm thinking i'm not going to use his name but there's Somebody that I have always thought of, I have associated this name as a Seattle sports fan that in my head I always thought was a man of color. And then the other day I saw him, he was on some, actually, even though he's a Mariners fan, I think he was invited to be on some Toronto talk radio show that they released the video of. And I saw that he was white. And I'm like, well, of course, I know that he wasn't Julio Rodriguez. Like, I know that's just his avatar. But I was really surprised to see that he was a white man. And again, not that it matters. I don't engage with him in conversations about race. Like it's just baseball talk. It doesn't matter. But when I suddenly had this realization, oh, this guy's a white guy. It just sort of like, I don't know. I found it somewhat disorienting. I'm just like, maybe as whites, we should just not use. I mean, maybe we should all not use photos of other people as our avatars anyway. But I know that that's a pretty common thing to do.

00:56:17 - 00:57:04 | Speaker 2:

I would just for myself I would not use an avatar of anybody who is non-white for myself and I'll take it to another level there's somebody who I know who I'm very close to and an appreciator of this person but he oftentimes is a white person and will use in the like emoji like if it's like I say oh we're gonna do this and then like we're gonna I'll meet at this time this person will throw up like a peace sign in a black hand or a thumbs up you know because they have a different skin tone yeah yeah in the emojis and this person who's white will use like i guess what you would say would be black or african-american emojis to represent themselves or their feedback on things that's really interesting i feel like that's weird i don't

00:57:04 - 00:57:08 | Speaker 1:

think we should do that either i wonder what the thought process is behind that i think that they

00:57:08 - 00:57:16 | Speaker 2:

think they're being kind of sort of funny edgy i mean this is a person oh it's not it's not like

00:57:16 - 00:57:21 | Speaker 1:

solidarity sorry to interrupt you well i mean i don't think that this person is um is working

00:57:21 - 00:57:46 | Speaker 2:

against the interests of people of color but this is a person who's like a hip-hop fan and kind of like i think this person who is white perceives themselves to be somewhat you know kind of like integrated into spaces and music and things that are like you know can be sort of black coded at times like i think it's kind of a like i don't i mean listen we haven't i haven't interrogated it with them but every time i see it i die inside a little bit yeah you know what i was thinking

00:57:46 - 00:57:52 | Speaker 1:

let's turn this uh back on me you were you were setting this up and you were saying there is

00:57:52 - 00:57:58 | Speaker 2:

somebody why is morgan freeman your icon on blue sky i think that's weird i'll change it

00:57:58 - 00:58:21 | Speaker 1:

to dave truly was a blue sky post i'm gonna change mine to dave chapelle are you cool with that One of these days You're going to set something like that up Where you say I'm not going to use their name But there's somebody that I interact with a lot A white guy And he does a thing And I'm going to be listening I'm going to realize This is me You're talking about me

00:58:21 - 00:58:28 | Speaker 2:

I don't want to give too much away But this is a person He's a white guy He used to co-host this show

00:58:28 - 00:58:30 | Speaker 1:

Called the Andrew Walsh show

00:58:30 - 00:58:34 | Speaker 2:

He used to co-host this show TBTL And that's how you'll find out that you don't work here anymore.

00:58:35 - 00:58:46 | Speaker 1:

I like the idea of saying, I'm not going to use his name, but he used to host a show called The Andrew Wall Show on Cairo Radio. By the way, it's because I don't know if you, I don't think you were trying to finish a thought, so I'm going to go on a new tangent.

00:58:46 - 00:58:47 | Speaker 2:

Not in any particularly important way.

00:58:47 - 00:58:59 | Speaker 1:

But I ended up filling out a little survey, one of those little online silly quizzes at themobmuseum.org. I'm glad that's .org. To find out what my...

00:58:59 - 00:59:00 | Speaker 2:

It's a non-profit.

00:59:00 - 01:00:13 | Speaker 1:

it what my uh my mob name would be and they gave me andrew grim reaper walsh says you are the boss sign up do i have to sign up if i want to get my mob no but here can i give you the quiz can we just do this are you interested in this all right mob name generator choose a gender male female or neutral male i'll go male please yep uh pick a region you have several choices here los angeles slash West Coast, Las Vegas, Midwest, we're talking KC, St. Louis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Detroit, the South, like Florida, Texas, Louisiana, or the Northeast, your New York, New Jersey, Boston, Philly, Pittsburgh, which region? I want to go with the classic. I'm going Northeast. Northeast. Okay. I went with West Coast, just so you know. Number three, what side are you on? Number one, I'm on the right side of the law. Side of truth. Number two, I try to be on the right side, but we all have our weaknesses. We're... The law has never done nothing good for me. I'm a wise guy through and through. Which one did you go with? I think I might have gone with the second one. I don't remember. I tried to do. No, I think I went full crime, actually.

01:00:13 - 01:00:21 | Speaker 2:

I try to do right, but, Andrew, it's hard when you were raised in a Bronx tale like I was.

01:00:21 - 01:00:26 | Speaker 1:

That's right. So I'm going to give you the middle one. Then you try to be on the right side. But we all have our weaknesses.

01:00:27 - 01:00:27 | Speaker 2:

I'm trying here.

01:00:28 - 01:01:00 | Speaker 1:

Oh, this is fun. Now, you have a lot of choices on this. Pick wisely. What racket are you involved in? Okay, ready? The numbers game. Money laundering? No, that's too... Murder? That's too high level. No shmurder for me. Murder? Muck duck? No, okay. Bribery? Robbery? Casino skimming? Okay, that one's got some promise. Bootlegging? Who, me? Or I uphold the law no matter what? They're giving you a chance to be a cop in this is what's happening there.

01:01:00 - 01:01:02 | Speaker 2:

I think bootlegging. I guess bootlegging. Or casino skimming.

01:01:02 - 01:01:19 | Speaker 1:

Let's go with casino skimming. It does seem kind of on brand for you, casino skimming, and it is fun. Now, number five, what's your role in all of this? Are you a capo? My soldiers do what I tell them. Capo de tutti. Now, I can never pronounce this word. I've heard it a million times in TV shows and movies. Consigliere?

01:01:20 - 01:01:23 | Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a way. Consigliere? Consigliere?

01:01:24 - 01:01:36 | Speaker 1:

Consigliere? I think consigliere. I think you actually said it right. Okay, that means I'm the boss's top advisor. I'm a mob wife. I know what's going on, but I'm not going to get involved. Corrupt politician.

01:01:36 - 01:01:39 | Speaker 2:

I've always wanted to whisper, you're the king, into my husband's ear.

01:01:39 - 01:01:52 | Speaker 1:

While he's sitting down, you come up behind him and put two hands on his... Mob wife style. Mystic River style. You're a corrupt politician. What's wrong with accepting a little something if they offer?

01:01:53 - 01:01:55 | Speaker 2:

But here's the thing. Can I be a casino skimmer and a corrupt politician?

01:01:55 - 01:02:16 | Speaker 1:

That's what I don't get. I do feel like this kind of works against itself. You're a clean cop. If someone so much as whispers bribe around me, they're in the slammer. You're a soldier. I do what's asked of me. That's all. You're a boss. Everyone listens to me or else. Or finally, let's just say I know some people who know some people, okay? I'm probably just a soldier.

01:02:16 - 01:02:29 | Speaker 2:

I don't want a lot of like, I can't be the consigliere because that's management. Yeah. You got to manage up to the tuto de capo. You've got to manage down to the soldiers. You're stuck in the middle. I don't want that headache.

01:02:30 - 01:02:37 | Speaker 1:

That's the whole thing. You've got to manage up. All right. It's called Managing Up, Tony. Godfather.

01:02:38 - 01:02:42 | Speaker 2:

Godfather. Not to be a nudge, but we're still waiting on your Thrive report.

01:02:44 - 01:03:03 | Speaker 1:

It's a 360 review this time. Yeah. All right. Pick it. We're going to roll. It's to make it a better work environment for all of us, Godfather. Pick your favorite era, Prohibition, Modern Era, Rat Pack Era, Swingin' 60s What's the difference between Rat Pack Era and Swingin' 60s? I don't know And the Disco Era

01:03:03 - 01:03:22 | Speaker 2:

No way Too much blow Too much Davy Kleinfeld It's funny, I've cited, I think, two different Sean Penn characters Because he's the one that gets whispered, you're the king in Mystic River, right? And he's Davy Kleinfeld in Carlito's Way which is like disco era organized

01:03:22 - 01:03:26 | Speaker 1:

I've never seen or no I did see are you saying Mystic River

01:03:26 - 01:03:28 | Speaker 2:

well Mystic River

01:03:28 - 01:03:30 | Speaker 1:

that's the same author what was the movie

01:03:30 - 01:03:37 | Speaker 2:

Lehane yeah yeah well Mystic River is a movie where she says you're the king I think to Sean Penn right

01:03:37 - 01:03:47 | Speaker 1:

so Mystic River has oh I'm getting I get that confused with another Lehane movie that's the one that does have the mob storyline in it okay it's been a long long time

01:03:47 - 01:03:57 | Speaker 2:

Mystic River is weird it's like it's kind of a lot going on, right? But there is a kind of isn't Sean Penn kind of an organized crime guy in that movie? Yes, I'm confused.

01:03:57 - 01:04:41 | Speaker 1:

I don't remember much about Mystic River. I'm totally confusing it with a later Lehane movie about a mental asylum that I am Oh, sure. Is that Shutter Island? Yes, I'm getting those totally confused. I don't remember much about Mystic River. Do you know that Genevieve and I summered with Dennis Lehane at his very fancy, it must have been It must have been on the coast of Massachusetts or something. His summer, his huge summer cabin. How did you know him? A family connection. I think he was friends with Genevieve's young uncle, I believe. I think they went to school together or something. And then I don't even think her uncle, I think her uncle showed up later on in the weekend. But we just showed up. We're just like, we're so-and-so's niece.

01:04:41 - 01:04:47 | Speaker 2:

Did you like hang out? Did you like sit on the veranda with him? Or was he in a room somewhere writing, you're the king?

01:04:47 - 01:05:00 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, we all we all hung out. It was him and a bunch of his like kind of, you know, kind of just like chill friends. I think some of them maybe were a little bit artsy. Some of them were just like Joe blows like me and we all just hung out. It was like you're perfect.

01:05:00 - 01:05:05 | Speaker 2:

summer you know on the on the shore it was a summer on the shore it was just a weekend but

01:05:05 - 01:05:10 | Speaker 1:

it was a magical memory sure yeah absolutely i didn't know that about you you can still surprise

01:05:10 - 01:06:08 | Speaker 2:

me all these years later anyway so you got to pick your area here prohibition i don't uh i want i'm gonna go with rat pack disco rat pack again though it wasn't the rat pack the 60s i don't quite get what they're separating out there okay and then i'm entering your first and last name and what is you the last four of your social they're just joking uh okay here it is occupation boss crime you name it i've probably done it your idol lucky luciano am i saying that right luciano luciano yeah yeah yeah um let's see here um your name is oh my god this is so much better than mine what was i the grim reaper screw that you are luke eggman burbank that is so great that's what i say when i kill people the last thing you hear before you die is you say wow luke the egg man they're not saying the egg man they're just saying egg man but i kind of like luke the egg man burbank

01:06:08 - 01:06:13 | Speaker 1:

as well if you want to throw an article in there huh i wonder what i did to get that title i'm

01:06:13 - 01:06:33 | Speaker 2:

always frying eggs yeah can i tell you a little bit about yourself you're a dangerous man with a business to run you know who will follow you until the end and you know who to cut loose when and they no longer serve a purpose for you. You're tough and respected. And that's just when I'm frying eggs. And that's when you're frying eggs. Exactly. You're tough and respected in the business, Luke. So anyway, I'm going to start treating you with a little bit more respect.

01:06:34 - 01:06:41 | Speaker 1:

Speaking of pretty organized crime, have you been following any of this Louvre heist story? Yes.

01:06:41 - 01:06:53 | Speaker 2:

Did you see that video yesterday? What we have learned is you put on one of those bright yellow vests, and anybody will let you do anything. Nobody will stop you or ask you anything.

01:06:54 - 01:07:24 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a crazy story where this gang of criminals got one of those, like, powered kind of ladder cherry picker things and elevated themselves up to one of the windows of the Louvre and then cut their way through one of the windows into the Louvre and then had these chainsaws. And then we're just, like, marauding around, chainsawing into these glass cases or these cases that had this, like, you know, I think it's like $100 million worth of jewels in it.

01:07:24 - 01:07:28 | Speaker 2:

They used chainsaws? And this was in broad daylight while the museum was open, right?

01:07:29 - 01:08:45 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. I mean, I think that they just—their plan was to get in, take what they wanted, assume that the security wouldn't mess with them, and then just get out. And it appears to have worked so far. It sounds like they found some DNA Like, I feel like They're gonna catch these guys, because there was too Many of them, they're running amok Like, where the There's too many, like, there's too many People that have to keep their story straight, like, if you catch One of them, I have a feeling you're gonna catch all of them And, again, it sounds Like they found some, like, DNA and stuff Because, again, you just gotta, I don't know Exactly how many, maybe four people or something But they're running around, they're sweating They're wielding chainsaws, at least if that video That I saw is actually true and not some kind of a AI creation, but there's this other subplot to it that I started seeing on TikTok the other day, which is this incredibly dapper, like, I don't know, teenager. I sent you the link, Andrew. If you click on that New York Times story, you'll see the photograph of, you've got these three French police. This is obviously in the, in the aftermath of the heist. And then you've got this, I'm going to say kid. And I say that, you know, with affection, this guy looks like he might be 17 or 18, and he is dressed... Wait, what? Are you looking at this? He's like

01:08:45 - 01:08:53 | Speaker 2:

cosplaying as a detective from the 1940s. He looks great.

01:08:53 - 01:09:16 | Speaker 1:

He's got a fedora. Would you call that a fedora? Yeah, that's a fedora. He's got a fedora, but he's pulling it off. This is the first time someone's pulled off a fedora in the last 20 years. He's got a suit on, a nice tie. He's got a vest. He's holding a handsome umbrella. He's a very handsome young young man and he just looks he looks like he's right out of a movie or something

01:09:16 - 01:09:51 | Speaker 2:

yeah but in a way that like kind of no i've not read the story yet but like i have it's not like he's got it's not like he's got a little bit of oh yeah his style is a little bit reminiscent of that my initial reaction of just seeing this this photo and how he's styled annoys me like he's literally he's literally cosplaying like he looks like he's like oh it's halloween i'm gonna dress up like somebody from the untouchables and i'm gonna like dress up like a baby carriage scene right exactly he's got a baby carriage like what's under a baby carriage don't you find going downstairs backwards don't you find this deeply unserious and and look at me louis for a

01:09:51 - 01:10:00 | Speaker 1:

job i like it i think i think i think 19 year olds can figure out who they are in the world it doesn't bother me in the way it sounds like it kind of bothers you but you're right it is

01:10:00 - 01:11:22 | Speaker 2:

is a lot it is a very it's a it's a very affected like it's clear that he's a young person who has decided like this is my thing is that i'm going to be very very dressed up in a way that's kind of anachronistic it's not from our time period here's the headline uh the first graph from the new york times this is uh alicia hara dasani gupta writing in the new york times it was in nearly every way an ordinary photo distributed by the associated press to media outlets it showed three policemen leaning against a silver car parked in the courtyard of the Louvre museum in Paris just hours after a brazen theft. But then there was the dapper man standing jauntily on the right side of the photo. The officers, the AP caption said, were there to block the entrance to the museum, but the man dressed in a buttoned up vest, a trench coat, and a fedora who seemed to be surveilling the seed was more than enough reason for the internet to pounce so basically the internet has gone in one of a couple of directions one who was kind of roasting this guy somebody wrote omen and melissa chen wrote on x you're never going to crack this case with a detective who wears an actual fedora unironically that's been viewed more than five million times uh melissa said to solve this we need an unshaven overweight washed out detective who's in the middle of a divorce a functioning alcoholic who the rest of the department

01:11:22 - 01:11:27 | Speaker 1:

hates. He has a half-eaten sandwich and constant indigestion. Yes, yes.

01:11:27 - 01:11:30 | Speaker 2:

He's more Pepto-Bismol

01:11:30 - 01:12:04 | Speaker 1:

than man. Obviously I'm talking about Lieutenant Eckhart. I just realized from the original think about the future. Is that what he says? Is that what Jack Napier says to Eckhart? Hey, Eckhart, think about the future. Don't worry about it. I'm on my own thing. Is that before he becomes Two-Face? I'm on my own. I love it. This is from the latest batman movie which i just saw starring margo kidder it's got margo kidder in it luke i am dreading putting this show out because for five minutes i people are gonna not realize that i eventually realized my mistake that i was describing the latest superman not superman 4

01:12:04 - 01:14:25 | Speaker 2:

from 1985 or whenever that came out so then the second wave of the internet and speculating on this young man who is sort of impossibly put together, you might say, is that he was AI. So, because, rather quickly, I'm again reading from this Times piece, the conversation shifted. This sharp-dressed man, some social media users surmised, wasn't real. It was an image of a French detective generated with artificial intelligence. The assumption that it was AI felt plausible because there is something about the image that Matt Groh, a professor at Northwestern University, whose research focuses on AI, said seems off. It was perhaps because the man was so incredibly well-dressed and so anachronistic compared with the rest of the people around him. His fedora is tilted just so. His skin looks flawless. He looks, quote, too good to be real, Mr. Groh said, like the star of an old black-and-white Hollywood film. The photographer who took the photo, however, confirmed that the man was in fact real, and he was merely a passerby unconnected to the investigation. so that was an ap photographer named thibaut camu who said i don't know him uh i don't know if he is french maybe a tourist maybe he's english that's from the photographer who took maybe he's english why not that all indications seem to be that he is a real person and not ai but we don't know anything else about him um uh the photographer who took the picture and by the way they point out in the article that the photographer's instincts were right the photographer says that, um, they took the picture because they found this guy in this getup to be such a contrast with the kind of modern day police, uh, staff. And then this photographer also took a picture, which they put in the times, which I, I kind of love this actually of just kind of like a, a sort of a more, I guess you could say 2025 looking woman who's in like a ball cap and she's walking past these same detectives. And the New York times points out that this picture got absolutely no heat ah right so the photographer's instincts of going like oh i want to like juxtapose this kid who looks like he walked out of some other time period and these policemen and then you put that up against just like a normal person and these policemen and that story is going that photograph's going nowhere so so they were right this was that photo was quite arresting for people as it were and here's the deal when i got a little

01:14:25 - 01:14:58 | Speaker 1:

itchy about this when i first saw it i didn't know the story and i thought we were taking this person seriously in some way like this person was actually connected to the story in some way that this person actually so this is just a person who is um who dresses this way and and happen to be caught on camera like this person is probably not somebody that i'm i'm gonna be hanging out with but this isn't somebody that is central to this investigation which i thought it was at first i thought this was some look at me louis who is actually connected to the story not a passerby.

01:14:59 - 01:14:59 | Speaker 2:

A detective.

01:15:00 - 01:15:15 | Speaker 3:

dresses like i really did a child you had mentioned that he was 19 and i think i didn't hear that or something i don't know that he's 19 i'm guessing he's 19 yeah so anyway so i thought this was somebody we have to take seriously no this is a passerby who's in to dress them up okay fine

01:15:15 - 01:15:51 | Speaker 4:

anybody can be in to dress them up do it to it my dudes yeah yeah i um i i'm i'm kind of surprised that we haven't that the internet hasn't figured out actually who this person is because it doesn't seem to take the internet very long uh to figure these things out but um again my it's my prediction that they will catch the people who robbed the Louvre because I think again there's too many of them although they do think that the jewels are gone because if you steal like by the way they were in the same part of the Louvre where the Mona Lisa is I'm sure it's way hard to steal the Mona Lisa and also what's the point of stealing the Mona Lisa you cannot sell it yeah well can

01:15:51 - 01:15:54 | Speaker 3:

you sell these jewels I thought I'd seen the headline that says it's going to be impossible

01:15:54 - 01:16:19 | Speaker 4:

defense these things oh really i thought i saw a different a competing story that basically said oh they'll just take the they'll just pop all the diamonds out and pop all the jewels out so it's it's a kind of a bummer because they according to what i saw this is something they can move because all they do i mean these are precious gems and and precious stones that if you just take them out of their settings that they're in they just have they have value as just like raw

01:16:19 - 01:16:31 | Speaker 3:

diamonds and and and and if you have somebody who's not super scrupulous you can get rid of those raw materials they could obviously be traced back but if if somebody doesn't want to trace them

01:16:31 - 01:17:07 | Speaker 4:

back you can move them pretty easily yeah because like what can who would buy the mona lisa because then they couldn't ever display it yeah so the value of that is pretty limited whereas these somebody could just take this a huge ass diamond that's off of some like tiara and just make it a huge-ass diamond that's on a ring somewhere just as a as a raw material this is again what like one guy being interviewed by CNN was saying so who knows last question for you my friend before we maybe wrap things up on this oh wait you wanted to play a voicemail from television's Chris Hayes yeah why don't we do that first because I'm intrigued first of all let me please let me activate the official sound effect for this kind of thing

01:17:07 - 01:17:14 | Speaker 1:

here I go once again with the email every week I hope that it's from a female Hold on.

01:17:14 - 01:17:21 | Speaker 4:

That's good. What just happened? Somewhere in the way back of my computer, it's still playing Godfather.

01:17:21 - 01:17:23 | Speaker 3:

Oh, that was the Godfather, right, right, right.

01:17:23 - 01:17:31 | Speaker 4:

I can't find it because I X'd out of Spotify, Andrew. But it must be one of those things where it doesn't take that as a no. You know what I mean?

01:17:31 - 01:17:38 | Speaker 3:

Who was it? Was it Sam Haggerty or Slam Swaggerty? Swaggerty? Who used to play the Godfather theme song?

01:17:38 - 01:17:44 | Speaker 4:

That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I think it was Sam Haggerty. His walk-up music was The Godfather.

01:17:44 - 01:18:33 | Speaker 3:

And it was so arresting, because you're just not used to, you don't have to pay attention to all the walk-up music when you're at a ball game. It's just like, I don't know, it's like kind of thumping in the background. You don't really pay attention. But then when it suddenly is just like, there's no bass, and there's no drums, there's just these eerie strings that come in as number zero, Slam Swaggerty, walks to the plate. Now, is he still playing baseball? I miss him, man. He was fun. I don't. Oh, really? He was free to foot. He was a fun kid. He was fun, but he was unserious. That's the thing. You think he was unserious? He was no Leo Rivas. Yeah, right. Exactly. Okay, so we already played. We're already in the V-Mails. You played the music. I played enough of the music augmented with some godfathers. And then this is a voicemail we got from Chris last night.

01:18:33 - 01:18:52 | Speaker 2:

Hey, dummies. It's Chris Hayes. I wanted to let you know that Luke is correct. It is DeKalb County in Georgia, and it is DeKalb Street. That is one of the stops on my daily commute. And I also got to say, wow, did soul coughing take me back. It has been a while since I've heard that.

01:18:53 - 01:18:54 | Speaker 3:

Oh, me too, brother.

01:18:54 - 01:19:59 | Speaker 4:

Love it. Hey, by the way, speaking of, I guess you could say mass transit and things like that, Chris's episode of Why Is This Happening this week is excellent. He's interviewing the co-authors of a book about, oh, man, this is so up your alley, Andrew. They, they, I think they run a blog and now they've written a book that's basically, so they sort of tongue in cheek, they've named it the war on cars, but they are, it's Sarah Goodyear and I forget the name of the other guy, but basically like they write about and, and work on projects that would reduce cars, not take cars down to zero, but as they say, put cars kind of in their place in cities, which is a very Andrew kind of way of thinking. it was an excellent episode and it really had it really had me thinking as well because i'm much more car i'm pro like one of the things that they talk about is this whole idea that like americas love americans love their cars do you know that started as like that was propaganda from some sort of like automobile concern and i believe it was like groucho marx would say like americans love their cars like that was like that was a thing that was sort of like

01:20:00 - 01:20:44 | Speaker 1:

like astroturfed into, you know, into the, like, Americans didn't love their cars. When cars first started, you had very rich people who had their cars, and then you had a lot of other people who were used to playing in the streets who were terrified of these cars that would go tearing around. And then Chris made a very good point in the show that why is a block party, this is something, when I used to live in Brooklyn, I loved this, you know, there'd be a night in the summer where there'd be block parties, and the whole neighborhood would come alive. And the only thing that's happened to make it a block party is cars can't drive on your street. That's all you need for it to become a block party is, hey, we got the cars off of the street, and now kids are literally friggin' hopscotching and playing basketball and stuff. So anyway, it's a really interesting episode, and I would highly recommend everyone check it out.

01:20:44 - 01:21:06 | Speaker 2:

There are some streets in Seattle, I think this started during the pandemic, where they essentially have closed streets to car traffic. Like, they don't really enforce it because there are still homes on those streets, and the people who live there can still drive to their driveways, which means – and sometimes these things are – they're all over kind of where I live, these, like, little side streets between the main fairs.

01:21:06 - 01:21:08 | Speaker 1:

There's a Sherbin name, right, for some of the –

01:21:08 - 01:22:00 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so they kind of – what they've done is they've just made it difficult to drive on them, like, a lot of speed bumps, a lot of those things that come in off of the curbs so that – you know, you can't just fly down these streets, basically, and they're trying to make it so that, like – I think they call them safe streets or something like that, so kids can kind of have a potential. My God, man. Was that one on purpose? No. I don't know where the godfather is, Andrew. I'm sorry. I don't know where the godfather is. That sounds like a problem. Anyway, yeah, so I kind of like that. I don't know if that's not the road diet thing, which is another term that's thrown around here. Oh, interesting. But I use those streets a lot, not in my car. I mean, actually, sometimes I really do have to cut across one, but you just drive very, very slowly. And, you know, again, I'm not abusing them, but when I go on my long walks, they're very nice.

01:22:00 - 01:22:07 | Speaker 1:

If it's lightly enforced, if you are allowed to drive down the street because you live on it, and if – is there a sign that says –

01:22:07 - 01:24:48 | Speaker 2:

Lots of signs, and like I said, those curbs that come up – I don't know, that just basically say – they will actually say, like, street closed to, like, non-local traffic or something like that. And then a lot of speed bumps and then a lot of like, I don't know what they call them, but they take the curbs and they kind of build them out into the street. So at places, it's just like you'd have to kind of crawl through, you know, only one car could pass. You know, it's just like, there's just like all these sort of obstacles that they build that make it not a place that you would go flying by if you're trying. I think especially streets that, you know, probably have a lot of families living on them, but also are between two main like, you know, you know where I live, Luke. There's all these main throughways, but people are trying to avoid those. So they'll go screaming down a side streets like the ones we live on. And, you know, that's that's a problem. And so they've done this and it's really cool. I really I really appreciate it. And I also appreciate the fact that, like, if you are in your car and the Google map is saying, well, you've got to get to this grocery store, which is one block away, and this is the only way to get there, you can still use them, but just be very cautious, you know, and they're not throwing the cuffs on you. Genevieve said she saw a fella standing up against a wall in the U District yesterday. We met up at the U District, and on her walk to Come Get Me, she said she saw a fella who was just leaning up against the wall with his dog, and cops came up to him and just handcuffed him, handcuffed him, handcuffed him. And he must have been – they must have been looking for him. In other words, they weren't just like he wasn't like loitering or something like that. You know, it wasn't like, oh, get away from this wall. They must he must have, you know, been accused of doing something that Genevieve did not see at some point. And then they found him. But it was kind of like he was very concerned, like, well, what happens to my dog now? And then later on when we were walking, we saw them again. They were still putting him in the car or something. And I saw that his dog was tied up to a to like a signpost while they were arresting him. And Genevieve said that the cops, and by the way, she said she didn't see anything untoward by the cops or anything that seemed overly aggressive. You know, you never know. But she said, you know, he was being arrested, but it was this whole thing about like, well, what about the dog? And it sounds like the police were trying to calm him down, saying like, we're going to, you know, take care of the dog or fine. Which I know that is not something that ever occurred to me before that sometimes you're right. And, you know, I suggested getting those tiny little, you know, little doggy handcuffs just so that the dog didn't feel left out. You probably need two sets, and that gets pretty expensive. And then it's like the difference between handcuffs and shackles, and then it just gets dark. The whole thing gets dark.

01:24:49 - 01:25:24 | Speaker 1:

You know, on the last thing I'll say about this, the war on cars thing, that I'm going to start using, if I'm talking about this with people that are not very old. open to the idea of maybe reducing the amount of time we spend in our cars and the amount of cars and places cars can go is where do americans go on vacation they go to disneyland where there's no cars like if you think about a fun relaxing place to be for people a place you you really want to be you're thinking generally of a place where there's not a bunch of cars yeah you're thinking of disneyland or you're thinking of maybe the beach or you're just thinking of these spaces

01:25:24 - 01:25:29 | Speaker 2:

or europe where they know or europe those those huge plazas and places right although i feel like

01:25:29 - 01:26:12 | Speaker 1:

if i'm talking to like a maga friend i feel like that was the one thing that i would say is that was baked into this conversation was the people the the you know the folks that are advocating for less car usage were saying like if we look at all the places that we really love and i'm thinking well yeah but you got to figure out a different place than amsterdam to convince the people in kalitz county right yeah if you're thinking about the places we love yes it is amsterdam yeah yeah we we being you guys and me yeah like roll down to long roll down to the home depot at longview and ask how many people venerate amsterdam yeah have the daily news do a survey tdn baby absolutely all right well i didn't get to ask you my question about toronto and the blue

01:26:12 - 01:26:27 | Speaker 2:

jays no you were you did you did wind up to ask me really fast before you did you hear linda give an early power out below you i just pulled a luke you're playing the godfather music i had a little quiet linda saying power out underneath you sorry about we are in the words of spiritualized we are

01:26:27 - 01:26:31 | Speaker 1:

currently floating in space i don't know if i've ever been talking post power out are you a big

01:26:31 - 01:26:36 | Speaker 2:

fan of that record that's something my friends loved in college and i'm just sort of this fall

01:26:36 - 01:27:56 | Speaker 1:

i started listening to it a lot i had not listened i love i love that record it's a it's very kind of you know vibey um i know that we've decided that we want the blue jays to win because then there will be no white house team white house visit although there might not be a white house by that point either so yeah exactly but um but also the dodgers have just outspent everybody it doesn't feel very sporting so those are strong reasons maybe to root for the blue jays but is there here's what i'm struggling with if the blue jays go i guess actually the dodgers have to go to toronto right blue just have the better record they're the home team but if the dodgers sweep into the johnson center and they just pummel the blue jays 10 nothing doesn't that actually make us relieved as mariners fans that we didn't have to run into that buzzsaw that is the dodgers like on some level like like if the blue jays beat the dodgers some part of me is in a slight amount of pain because it meant the dodgers were actually beatable and the mariners could have beat them whereas if if the blue jays to get absolutely torched in four games that on some level makes me feel less less sad about the Mariners not going to the World Series I know this isn't science I'm just it's something that is playing through in my mind or playing out in my mind I um I mean I I do

01:27:56 - 01:28:59 | Speaker 2:

have the I I kind of can't follow all that logic there I do have you know as I've mentioned many times in the week leading up to this this feeling that whoever made it to the World Series was going to go up against a buzzsaw and likely get swept or at least you know five games or something uh whether it was detroit or seattle or toronto so i i follow that logic but no there's no part of me i'm not going to watch the games i'll be honest with you i probably won't if i'm in a place like if i if eves and i go out and we find ourselves at a bar and the games are on like i'll i'll you know i won't avert my eyes or whatever but um i'm not like i don't think it's going to cause tons of anger in me to see you know vladdy potentially hit a home run whereas there are other teams that like if they had just beat us just to see them do well would cause so much consternation inside me i am i i just i am fully solidly rooting for the blue jays but also kind of not planning on

01:28:59 - 01:29:11 | Speaker 1:

watching it i think that's where i'm at i think i'm i think i'm generally i tip towards probably blue jays but also if the dodgers win 10 nothing i'll feel some kind of weird sense of relief about

01:29:11 - 01:31:03 | Speaker 2:

that like well that wasn't the mariners and the people who celebrated your loss don't get to celebrate especially that troll guy we didn't talk about this like i was so in a good place even after the heartbreaking loss on monday except for that troll guy and i don't know how much you were following this you didn't even notice i knew about this but you know the guy who showed up with a butt plug picture on his shirt with cal raleigh's number on it but then he this was earlier on in the series and he must be some rich guy who can afford those seats directly behind home plate and he can there in the rogers center or the johnson center as you for some reason call it um and it was ended up being funny because he put that on as a troll like oh i'm we're gonna plug up the dumper which is just such a gross thing anyway but then of course he's caught on camera and it goes viral when he's wearing that shirt and Cal Raleigh just nails a home run just like right out of the park and he starts to clap because he thinks it's going to be a strike and it's like he couldn't look more a fool well he disappears in the narrative for several games and then just appears for game seven him and somebody have white it was after the home run though he doesn't even don these shirts that are like very visible until like julio's down to like two strikes he's like now i'm comfortable and he and his friend put on these white shirts One that says chow Seattle and the other one says Mariners lol lol just like these white shirts with big black letters but like the absolute wussy troll didn't wear those the whole game until they were down to like two outs or possibly two strikes like he is such he is the it was the only thing that kind of made me feel like god I would love I would love those fans to really take it in the teeth but I will say that I have heard a rumor that even like Toronto fans are like this guy doesn't this is not please do not judge us by this piece of trash like he's gross yeah i tend to think that probably and

01:31:03 - 01:32:25 | Speaker 1:

also the thing with the dodgers is it's a little bit like the yankees too that i'm sure that you can find hundreds and thousands of dodger fans who are like that's just it was just a famous team to root for which you know i always get a little bit prickly about anyway whereas i'm guessing that the blue jays fans are probably canadian and probably you know kind of come by I guess in my mind more honesty because more honestly because I'm the person who gets to decide whose fandom is come by Honestly, and whose fandom is not I am officially the arbiter of that. Yes, right Yeah, so anyway a guy who is dying to go get some more this veggie lasagna that I made last night. I've been in a real Cozy mood I've been like I've been running a fire all day at my house I've been I made veggie lasagna yesterday. I might make some soup tonight soup soup soup Big soup show. Nothing beats soup, or whatever it is my mom said. Yes. All right. Thank you for spending this week with us. Of course, we are at the end of this broadcast week. But we're going to be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio. So please tune in for that. By the way, if you get the newsletter, this week's Hey Dummies video will be me actually drinking the water in my house. The well water that my dad has described as gross. So if you don't get the newsletter, maybe subscribe right now. How do people subscribe to the newsletter, Andrew?

01:32:25 - 01:32:58 | Speaker 2:

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01:32:59 - 01:33:11 | Speaker 1:

Yes. So it's going to be a great newsletter this week. It is. Please do subscribe, read it, watch it, all of that. And meet us right back here on Monday for more Imaginary Radio. In the meantime, have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves. Stay dry. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

01:33:12 - 01:33:12 | Speaker 2:

And good luck to all.

01:33:18 - 01:33:19 | Speaker 1:

Power out.

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