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#4610 There's An Ab For That
TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

#4610 There's An Ab For That

from TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live

December 2, 2025 | 01:05:28 | Leisure, Comedy

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A budget hotel chain is trying to hold Andrew over a barrel. Luke's preparing for his big shirt-off television moment. And together they ponder the eternal question: How long can lightly-refrigerated beef stroganoff last?
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00:00:00 - 00:01:21 | Speaker 4:

This next performer is returning to stand-up comedy after a 10-year absence. Please welcome Larry David. Thank you, thank you. I think I'm going to do very well tonight. I really do. I'm feeling just unbelievably confident. Well, that was a bad start. It was a bad start. A really stupid start. I don't know why I did that. You know, you'll see. Well, you seem like a very nice audience tonight. I'm wondering, in case I break into some Spanish or French, may I use the familiar two-form with you people? Instead of Usted, because I think Usted is going to be a little too formal for this crowd. I feel already I've established the kind of rapport that I can jump into the two-form with you. That quickly. I'm taking it to liberty with you. I'm going to use the two-form, and that's it. You can't talk me out of it. You know, Caesar used the two-form with Brutus even after Brutus stabbed him. He said it too brute, and I think that's a little too informal when someone's trying to assassinate you. I think at that point, perhaps, he would have been better off. But that's Caesar. Everybody calls it garbage. Most people call it a problem.

00:01:22 - 00:01:27 | Speaker 2:

We call it our challenge. I think we have a textbook case of video game abuse.

00:01:27 - 00:01:31 | Speaker 3:

Maybe we should do something to save him from becoming a human microchip.

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Hey, you either get it or you don't. I don't, but I am so excited to be a part of it.

00:01:37 - 00:01:51 | Speaker 1:

There comes a time in every young man's life when... I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure what young men are doing nowadays. Let me know.

00:01:51 - 00:02:34 | Speaker 2:

well all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a tuesday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live i can't believe you're still on the air my name is luke burbank i'm your host hey cheer up it's taco tuesday coming to you once again from uh beautiful miami beach in the art deco headquarters of america if not the world where it is a it's actually a little overcast right now but it is going to be another warm one down here It's going to be very hot, going to be very uncomfortable for everybody. I've got the A.C. thumping here in the Good Times Hotel, and I am ready, my friends, to bring you episode 4,610 in a collector series.

00:02:34 - 00:02:35 | Speaker 3:

Let the fun begin.

00:02:36 - 00:02:52 | Speaker 2:

After we're done recording today's episode, I am then going to head off for my television shoot here for CBS, which will once again, for the second time in my career of making TV stories, involve me being shirtless on national television.

00:02:52 - 00:02:54 | Speaker 3:

This is embarrassing!

00:02:55 - 00:03:34 | Speaker 2:

I pulled a real Hail Mary yesterday trying to mitigate the disaster that is my upper torso on television. We'll get into that probably. We've been trying to get into this television show and talking about it all week, by which I mean yesterday. But we have not yet discussed The Chair Company, which... I love television. May or may not have had its season finale on HBO this week. I'm still a little unclear on all that. Maybe Andrew Walsh knows the answer. He is the longest-running co-bro of the program, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Boom. Roasted. And he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

00:03:35 - 00:03:44 | Speaker 3:

Good morning, Luke. Speaking of television, television is no friend of mine. Actually, that's untrue. It's a dear, dear close friend of mine.

00:03:44 - 00:03:46 | Speaker 2:

It sure is. Some would say best friend.

00:03:46 - 00:04:59 | Speaker 3:

You know what? We have a big development in our television watching that I should have mentioned yesterday on the show. Something that listeners have been telling me to do for years and years and years now. Well, I guess ever since we cut the cable in our home. Genevieve actually is the one who ended up implementing this. She went out to the hardware store on Sunday and bought an antenna, an actual over-the-air digital antenna for our downstairs television. I don't know. It always sounded tempting to me. A lot of people had suggested it for watching Seahawks games. Actually seemed like something you'd like. Yeah, kind of. I mean, sort of. It's pretty easy to bootleg the games, and I watch them on my laptop as I kind of walk around the house or whatever. So I had gotten used to that lifestyle, but everybody was like, hey, don't forget the Seahawks. That's still something that is broadcast over the air, you know, as is like Sunday night football and things like that. Like, you don't technically need cable. But I haven't watched television over the air since I was a child, since I was, I guess, since we got our first cable in probably 1993 or 4 or something along those lines. And so Genevieve, while I was out yesterday, went to the hardware store, bought this baby, plugged.

00:05:00 - 00:05:17 | Speaker 1:

it in. It doesn't even take up, one of the big things was I thought it would take up an HDMI slot. Luke, this connects to the television via coaxial. Do you remember? Oh my goodness. Does anybody remember coaxial? It's a famous line from a Led Zeppelin live performance. I didn't even know our televisions had still the coaxial.

00:05:17 - 00:05:23 | Speaker 2:

Didn't they boo Bob Dylan when he plugged into the coaxial at the Monterey Jazz Festival? Wasn't that

00:05:23 - 00:05:58 | Speaker 1:

controversial? When Dylan went coaxial. People still talk about it. But, yeah, Genevieve called me. She's like, wait, do we have coax on the back of our television? She was at the hardware store. I'm like, I don't think I've seen one of those in a long, long time. But sure as shit, sorry for the language, on a Tuesday, we're just going with it today. You can swear, Luke. I've opened the door. You can be as foul-mouthed as you want today. Say anything we want. That's right. But, yeah, there's still that little coax on up on the back of the television. By the time I got home, Genevieve had it installed and had watched the back half of the Seahawks game on it. And then last night, I put on Sunday Night Football.

00:05:59 - 00:06:14 | Speaker 2:

i mean that's what's so crazy about this is that so much of the stuff now a lot of stuff that you were bootlegging well back in the cleveland browns days back when you were following them then that would have been out of market and stuff but and then the baseball is what it is but like as far

00:06:14 - 00:06:20 | Speaker 1:

as over the air that's the that's the tragedy yeah but the fact of the matter is yeah the what

00:06:20 - 00:06:36 | Speaker 2:

the thing that's been standing between you and just watching the seahawks on sundays and then sunday night football the thing that's been standing between you and that happening on your beautiful television is what like a 20 part yeah if that now keep in mind i was i have a little

00:06:36 - 00:07:18 | Speaker 1:

laptop i am now a kind of a two laptop guy i used to like just run them into the ground and then they were unusable so i only had one laptop but i do have this little mini laptop that is serviceable that i can just like i always have a dongle hanging off the back of my tv in the basement so i can easily plug my computer in there so it hasn't been super onerous or it hasn't gotten in the way of me watching but it does it does glitch up from time to time it'll crash on you got to refresh it it'll mute they've sort of made some of these streams a little bit harder to walk romanian gangs now have your isp information and will someday come for you i have been jumped in are you familiar with the term jumped i sure am okay well that is that and it will explain some

00:07:18 - 00:08:10 | Speaker 2:

of the tattoos you will see on my face the next time you see me but you know me i'm obsessed with the feeling of i want it to be like it was the let's just say the 1990s or the early 2000s when you walk into the tv room area the living room what have you you pick up your remote control you point at the television you hit on and then you change you select the channel that's playing the thing you want to watch i love that experience that's a big deal for me not having to dongle the laptop in or go on the various sites like and i'm just speaking for me now you're saying it probably didn't really bum you out that much but the fact that now you can just like you know if you if you happen to be home on that sunday at that time or it's sunday night or whatever you can just turn your television on and go to the antenna as the input and then just watch over the air television which is i assume is all the local stations yeah well this is pretty cool actually this is it was

00:08:10 - 00:08:27 | Speaker 1:

cool it was cool john um the it was also theater i was actually thinking of patriot there do you remember uh well whatever i can't remember any of the characters or actors names from patriot but um who is i feel like that's by design i feel like that's something that they almost did to

00:08:27 - 00:08:31 | Speaker 2:

make it extra hard for people to get into the show is everyone's name is a version of john

00:08:31 - 00:09:11 | Speaker 1:

dorman right dorm nan and who am i oh kurtwood smith he's like one of the mains right i remember he's on the phone with John near the end when John is just like so damn broken and I think Kurtwood Smith is talking about how he was in prison and he was a dentist in prison and John says to him cool you know how he only like see cool and then Kurtwood Smith says it wasn't cool John and I always whenever we hear the word cool we're just like it wasn't cool John so that is That is why I blurted that non sequitur out at you. My apologies. But here's what I found.

00:09:11 - 00:09:13 | Speaker 2:

I was going more with Steve Coogan.

00:09:13 - 00:09:28 | Speaker 1:

Yes, right. Whatever that show was. That was from Macbeth 2, right? Yeah, Macbeth 2. Or Hamlet 2, I believe. It was stupid. It was stupid. It was stupid. But it was also theater. Let me see if I can just go ahead.

00:09:29 - 00:09:41 | Speaker 3:

Hey, I've learned a lesson here. But I hope you all have too about the vitality of shared experience. we will all remember this moment for the rest of our lives it was dramatic it was visual it was

00:09:41 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 1:

stupid it was stupid but it was also theater the reason i also say that to each other love it as well hamnet 2 coming out now as well i don't know if you've been seeing the trailers for that movie well you know the hamnet actor um jesse jesse

00:09:59 - 00:10:27 | Speaker 2:

I forgetting this actor's last name but she was remember i told you that story of going to the cbs is it buckley maybe jesse buckley going to that cbs sunday morning editorial meeting and there was a long conversation around if we were to write on the screen introducing oh right jesse buckley yes or in conversation with jesse buckley and it was decided that to say introducing was disrespectful because it presumed that most people didn't know who she was yeah and that was

00:10:27 - 00:11:30 | Speaker 1:

for hamnet that was for hamnet sorry i'm just saying it all comes back to hamnet yeah sorry for my lack of uh response there it's just kind of bummed me out to hear that again anyway i guess i guess the words are important uh all i was gonna say was it is amazing how many over-the-air channels we get now i expect and this is where i'm a bit of a i guess moron might be the word but i was like i don't know over-the-air tv it's gonna be five channels like what i grew up with it's gonna be the three networks and then maybe a uhf or two right and instead i turned on the tv last night, and Genevieve already had it hooked up and was already watching it earlier in the day, and then I came downstairs. 30 channels, Luke, including one called Laugh, A-L-F-F, over the air. I turn it on, Elf is on. I didn't have time to watch it in the moment. I was just sort of kicking the tires on it. It's called Laugh? L-A-F-F? Yes, is the channel, and Elf, the TV show, was on. It's just like this idea that I can just swangle on down to the basement and maybe catch an Elf, But not necessarily catch an elf I gotta say I'm catching some elves, I'm loving it

00:11:30 - 00:12:36 | Speaker 2:

Well that's the thing, nature abhors A vacuum, and since we're Not watching, since most people Aren't getting most of their television over the air I feel like there's been a lot of like frequencies And channels that have been freed up So that you can like Your laugh networks and Your QVCs and these other kind of like There's just, what I've noticed when I've Ever looked at over the air TV in the last five years There's just a bunch of stuff I didn't expect to be on there because it's not really the prime real estate anymore of television watching, which is kind of great because it just means you get some bonuses. Because, again, when I was a kid, the over-the-air television was the CBS station, the NBC station, the ABC station, the public television station, KTZZ, which was UHF if you had the little, you know, like sort of saucer, if you had a little circular UHF antenna. and then like a weird outlier well then there was fox i guess channel 13 and then there was kcpq which was channel 11 came out of tacoma was it was a kind of its own weird thing but that was pretty much it and now i feel like there's a lot of cool bonus stuff on over the air yeah i'm looking

00:12:36 - 00:13:30 | Speaker 1:

at the laugh channels um kind of schedule for i will say this it is heavily indexed into the According to Jim's of the world, the Holmes Improvement and The Last Man's Standing. Big blocks of this during the day, that 70s show, but then if you can survive the Connors. Shows that are based around highly competent fathers who are in no way over it. We end up with A Man with a Plan, I don't know what that is, Grounded for Life, and then finally if you can make it to 2 a.m. Eastern Time, which is 11 p.m. my time you get into an elf block exactly and so it looks like elf is on at 11 p.m. so i will now i got to remember when things are on luke oh world's funniest videos on i love it a

00:13:30 - 00:13:55 | Speaker 2:

vin de bona production is that true oh absolutely after america's funniest home videos and america's funniest people which was co-hosted by tawny katane and dave coulier uh that was america's funniest people and uh they were both vin de bona productions i'm looking at here's my question here never heard that name before is the um not a porn producer although it sounds like it could be

00:13:55 - 00:14:24 | Speaker 1:

yeah actually he looks like too if you're gonna cast i don't know what he looks like he's uh i'll send you a pic he's like he's kind of a i'm looking at a guy who's probably in his 60s or 70s white guy with kind of big kind of not oversized but kind of like chunky uh hollywood glasses sort of white hair and a suit just like a very kind of white guy yeah just but if you if you were casting him in um boogie nights i'd be like yeah sure that seems about right are there commercials on

00:14:24 - 00:15:23 | Speaker 2:

the laugh channel yeah that's how they do that's what i'm wondering about because those according to jim's and those last man's standing and everything like those must still cost some money right like those kind of shows never are like in the public domain right there's a whole thing about uh syndication and residuals and you know back in the day back in the more traditional i guess you could say tv days the big thing was you wanted to get your sitcom to a certain number of episodes because if you did then it could be syndicated and that was where the real money was you know for everybody it was like once you start seeing So, Seinfeld playing, you know, or Friends playing on, you know, a non-NBC channel that's just running, you know, episodes of Friends all the time or whatever. There's money in that syndication because those channels or networks are paying for that stuff. But I'm wondering, is the Laugh network slash the Laugh channel still, like, is Jim Belushi, is he getting according to Jim money from the Laugh channel?

00:15:24 - 00:15:29 | Speaker 1:

I'm looking this up here. It says as long as you use Steamboat Tim Allen, you're good, is what it says here.

00:15:30 - 00:15:35 | Speaker 2:

He steamboated that cocaine across Lake Michigan, right?

00:15:35 - 00:15:42 | Speaker 1:

Wasn't that what he was doing? Indeed he did. Yeah, I'm assuming that there must be some residuals, but it just can't be like it was in the old days. Sure.

00:15:42 - 00:16:02 | Speaker 2:

It's not, I wonder what, I could actually, this is weird flex, but I could actually text Belushi and ask him. Oh, yeah. I did do a story with him once. He was actually very nice. And we were like kind of buddies for a minute where he was like, if you're ever in town, stay with me. And like kind of, we're like sort of text buddies. I could say, are you getting any sweet, sweet residuals off that laugh channel?

00:16:03 - 00:16:30 | Speaker 1:

You just say, hey, my buddy just got the laugh channel. He's deeply interested. What does he owe you? What does he owe you? Here's a huge shift in conversation, but based on a second email I just got in the past 15 minutes, which is, Luke, when I joined you in your neck of the woods for the TB Telethon two years ago, let's say, not the Wisconsin one, but the one we did from your home. And I stayed in that hotel John and I stayed in that hotel Which was, you know, I'm not gonna

00:16:30 - 00:16:40 | Speaker 2:

Unsafe at any speed It was definitely I really, I want the record to show that I did I advised against that No you didn't, the hotel

00:16:40 - 00:16:44 | Speaker 1:

I actually thought it was very sweet You went and you checked it out ahead of time

00:16:44 - 00:17:05 | Speaker 2:

Well I checked it out and I'm joking When I say unsafe, it wasn't unsafe It just wasn't particularly It was a very, very, very down market Hotel, which you and John were being very scrupulous with the show money by staying there. But I would say if you ever come down that way again, there are better options. Yeah, and I probably would. Not in the little town, not quite as close.

00:17:05 - 00:17:22 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, and again, so anyway, but point is, it was, as you, let's just describe it as a somewhat crummy hotel, but it's part of a chain, and I don't even know what the chain is here, it doesn't matter, but it's like part of Choice Privileges, which is such a weird name for, you've seen that before in your travels, Choice Privileges.

00:17:22 - 00:17:31 | Speaker 2:

Well, I know that they're called Choice Hotels is the sort of parent company of a bunch of these real kind of like pretty low-rent hotels.

00:17:32 - 00:18:23 | Speaker 1:

And so that was two years ago, and they signed me up for some sort of loyalty program at the time. I'm like, yeah, that's fine. I just said yes to whatever the woman on the phone said. And then when I showed up, it turns out she had entered my information wrong anyway, and so it was all kind of a bit of confusion when I got there. But all of that is to say, they're now sending me emails, like two in a row, that feel like I'm being shaken down. It says, you're about to lose your 8,100 points. You got these points. I don't know. I mean, I only stayed there once. I got 8,100 points, unless this has been following me around in ways that I didn't realize. I don't know what 8,100 points gets you. Probably half a donut. I don't even know. But I like this idea that they sign you up for these membership programs or whatever. But then they're like, oh, you're going to lose it. You better, like, do you think I'm going to book a hotel because you told me I'm about to lose 8,100 points? I'm just going to, like, I'm that invested.

00:18:23 - 00:18:24 | Speaker 2:

So it's 8,100.

00:18:25 - 00:18:27 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, did I say 1,000? No, I don't.

00:18:27 - 00:18:40 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I was like, you know, I'll take those off your hands if you got 8,100. Although, you know, it also, it's like they could just set up their own point system where you need a million points for one night. Yeah, exactly. So, like, you know, but it is funny. Like, I heard 8,100. Oh, it could get me out of a couple of jams.

00:18:40 - 00:18:42 | Speaker 1:

Oh, sorry if I misspoke. I thought I said 8,100.

00:18:43 - 00:18:44 | Speaker 2:

You might have, and I might have misheard, too.

00:18:44 - 00:19:33 | Speaker 1:

But anyway, it's just kind of like, it's such a strange thing. It's not even like, hey, you have a certain amount of points at Sprouts, right? So maybe make your way down here and use them on some strawberries before you run out of time or whatever. This is like, and it's also not like I'm a high roller and this is some sort of fancy hotel in Las Vegas where I'm going to be like, hey, sweetie, let's do a weekend in Vegas so we don't lose all these points. You know what I mean? It's a choice hotel. Is there a BBC comedy show? Is there? There certainly is. I'm still—a lot of anticipation for me to report back from the Big Black Comedy show that we'll be going to in a couple of months here. But anyway, I didn't like this. I don't like them threatening to take my points away so I should book another room in Kelso or what have you.

00:19:33 - 00:20:00 | Speaker 2:

You would be surprised at how many people, including my parents, would respond to that though because yeah well yesterday on the show at right at the very end which was a good place for me to mention it because there was less of a chance of it being heard by people who might get their feelings ever so slightly tweaked but like now i'll bring it up again at the beginning of the show which is a less great place for this to be but yesterday i mentioned that like when i was at my folks house before we did the whole thanksgiving feast with

00:20:00 - 00:21:52 | Speaker 1:

wherein there is almost an excess of food, there is an excess of food created, there was, I felt like a kind of a, we didn't have quite enough food there, and the one thing that was being eaten the night before Thanksgiving was beef stroganoff, which itself was one to two days left over, because they made it for my sister Rachel's birthday, which, do I even go into this? That's a whole other sub thing. They were like, I was like, are we a beef stroganoff family? We have no history of eating beef stroganoff in this family. And my mom was like, oh, Rachel requested it for her birthday. And I thought, there's something about this that does not add up. And then later on, a day later, I was talking to my parents, and my mom said to me, why didn't you eat the beef stroganoff? And I was like, well, I don't really eat a lot of beef, and I'm not a big mushroom person, and it's beef and mushrooms. Oh, yeah, that's one thing I know about you. You don't like mushrooms. I'm working on it, by the way. I am trying. In fact, the reason that conversation happened was my sister Liz had picked, you know, they live on this beautiful, huge property and they pick tons and tons of mushrooms every year, like chanterelles and things that just grow wild. And then she does something to them where she sort of like cooks them down so that they can be saved. And then she puts them in bags and stuff. So I've been trying to actually entertain more mushrooms, you know, in like if there's a dish that has mushroom and I don't just avoid it. Now, I'm trying to kind of if I can develop an enjoyment of that thing. But anyway, he started talking about mushrooms, and my mom said, oh, there was mushroom in the beef stroganoff, and she goes, it was really good ground beef. Now, by the way, when I told this story to Becca, she goes, I don't think beef stroganoff is historically made with ground beef in it. And then she looked it up, and it's not. Like, if you went to an Austrian restaurant or whatever, and you had beef stroganoff, it would not be ground beef. I don't think that's the preferred. But my mom was like, it was really good ground beef. That's why we had to use it. It was going to go bad.

00:21:52 - 00:21:53 | Speaker 2:

Oh, geez.

00:21:53 - 00:22:28 | Speaker 1:

You never want to hear that. well and i said um i thought it was rachel's special birthday dish and she was well i i asked her hey would you like would you like beef stroganoff for your birthday and she said yes and i was like that is a very different scenario than it just it's it just it it it what is it it validated my theory that we're not a beef stroganoff family per se like they may eat beef stroganoff sometimes now but it's not like a proud family tradition that we've always done that we request on our birthday. It's because my mom had ground beef that she was worried was going

00:22:28 - 00:24:06 | Speaker 2:

to go bad. That's the real story. What are the best cuts of beef for? Strogonoff, top sirloin is number one. Boneless ribeye is number two. Beef tenderloin is number three. Filet mignon is for... All wonderful cuts of meat. And then it says if you are looking for a less expensive alternative, some have reported good results using ground chuck beef. So according to... I mean, it's an option, but natashaskitchen.com didn't even try it out themselves they just said if you're looking some have reported and again i'm not listen i i make all i made my what i call poor man's chicken parmesan this weekend on like a friday or saturday night where it's just like you know like i'm not trying to be snobby about it but just to your point i would say and this is just a language thing and i i should be gentle here as well i know it's just something sometimes people say but anytime anybody offers food or describes food as like well we had to clean out the fridge or we had to like it was going to go bad that's always a turnoff for me you know what i mean and maybe i'm a little bit too quick with the trigger to throw things away and then just get fresh food in anyway but it's kind of like just don't present it in that way for me personally i'm not going after your do you think that i want to get into it with your mom absolutely not i love that woman Some have tried, some have died. Yes, some have reported. I would not recommend it. No, and that is true. But I would just say as far as a presentation thing is concerned, usually when I'm being offered food from somebody at their home, if I hear that it was about to go bad or it would have gone bad if we hadn't used it, it is not an enticement for me.

00:24:07 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 1:

And that wasn't initially – see, that's the thing. It was presented as Rachel's special birthday meal. Right. And so, which is, by the way, as far as branding goes, a much better branding than we had this really good ground beef that we needed to use pretty sooner. It was maybe not going to be edible anymore. Now, here's the crazy thing, Andrew. Now, try to do this timeline with me. Thanksgiving last week, my sister's birthday, I think two days before Thanksgiving. So Tuesday of last week was when the beef stroganoff was made, all right? Wednesday was when leftover beef stroganoff was being presented as the only meal option, which kind of sent me into a bit of a tizzy. Fast forward to Sunday, so a couple days ago now. I'm texting with my dad about Sunday, because my mom and dad stayed at my house on Saturday night. I was already in Portland and heading out early on Saturday.

00:25:00 - 00:25:24 | Speaker 2:

sunday morning my folks stayed at my house because they were on their way to their timeshare thing and i was texting my dad about some stuff in the house and some stuff he's going to be doing and he's telling me about a delivery that came and then he just throws in so this is now sunday night at 9 p.m i get this text from my dad about these um some demolition stuff he was doing at the house and he goes um at the end of the email he goes we forgot and left our stroganoff in the

00:25:24 - 00:25:30 | Speaker 1:

fridge we'll eat it friday night okay so you said go they're coming back made on tuesday

00:25:30 - 00:25:46 | Speaker 2:

this week yes at the end of this week december 5th which is also when i'll be at benaroya hall doing live where everyone please come see us um at the end of this week andrew on friday night they're stopping back at my house on their way back from the timeshare and staying over again

00:25:46 - 00:26:18 | Speaker 1:

they are going to eat the beef stroganoff on friday night so that is one week and five days It's close to two weeks after being made, and after being made with the idea that it's going to go bad, some of the ingredients will if we don't use it. I forgot about that part, that it was made so as to make use of the ground beef. Again, I want to be careful. I know that your mom could be listening to this, and again, I really do love your mom. Listen, they've lived this long without, I'm assuming, giving themselves food poisoning or whatever.

00:26:18 - 00:26:21 | Speaker 2:

No, they're too tough to die.

00:26:21 - 00:26:31 | Speaker 1:

That's not my approach to leftovers, certainly. And that is one thing. I don't want to also turn this. Why don't I just open myself up to all the slings and arrows, yes?

00:26:31 - 00:26:36 | Speaker 2:

I forgot the most critical part of this whole story. I can't believe that I forgot this part.

00:26:36 - 00:26:37 | Speaker 1:

It's at least in the fridge.

00:26:37 - 00:27:22 | Speaker 2:

Tell me they left it in the fridge. It does involve the refrigerator, Andrew. I forgot about this part. My parents' refrigerator broke. we think sometime around the tuesday before thanksgiving it had apparently been on the fritz and so by the wednesday night and certainly by thursday if you open the refrigerator it and you put your hand in there there was no discernible difference in the temperature of the outside of the refrigerator or the inside of the refrigerator now my parents my dad on the Black Friday, as we call it, the day after Thanksgiving, he did go to Home Depot and buy a brand new refrigerator and bring it home. So they got a brand new refrigerator as of Friday. Wow.

00:27:22 - 00:27:26 | Speaker 1:

And so he just threw in the back of the truck and brought it in himself.

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Well, it was a whole thing. My sister Hannah and her husband brought their truck, because you're not supposed to lay down a refrigerator. Oh, okay, sure. Because of something with the tubes. And so my dad has a truck, but it's like a little small pickup truck with a canopy on it. So he got, well, really what happened was my dad's at Home Depot, he's calling my mom, he's trying to get, he's going to drive down to my sister's house to get her truck, to drive the truck back, and she lives about 45 minutes away from them. Anyway, it was going to be this whole round trip thing, and my mom all of a sudden calls, she hangs up, calls my sister, somehow talks my sister into driving her truck or her husband to driving his truck up to the Home Depot to help my dad get the refrigerator home, which it was very kind of them. shout out hannah and chris but this is my point from what we can track tuesday maybe earlier that refrigerator was not really operating so this let me just throw in this beef stroganoff not only was it ground beef that was getting a little sus not only is it about two weeks old it also spent three or four of its early days of its life as a leftover in a refrigerator that was not functional

00:28:36 - 00:28:41 | Speaker 1:

all it's all it knows it's all it ever wants it's all it'll ever know yeah and yet my parents are

00:28:41 - 00:28:46 | Speaker 2:

thriving in their early 70s andrew that's the thing well whatever they're doing it's working

00:28:46 - 00:28:52 | Speaker 1:

yeah but uh is are you you're gonna save it for them like you'll probably be gonna be home oh

00:28:52 - 00:29:42 | Speaker 2:

that's true yeah you're you're you're in your odyssey i live i live on the road now i've got i'm gonna be in phoenix on thursday night doing wait wait don't tell me by the way tig notaro will be on that panel which is kind of fun um and then friday night doing live wire in seattle so i won't even be home to stop them like they you know the thing that's so funny was uh i forget who it was maybe it was my sister liz or something at thanksgiving where one of my sisters was inquiring about oh it was my sister liz was asking about stopping by my house to do something to pick up a chair or something i was giving her and she said something like well is it okay if i just stop by my mom goes oh it's never locked like as if she was just like saying yeah you can do that it's never locked there it's like well it isn't but also do you guys live there now like my mom

00:29:42 - 00:30:39 | Speaker 1:

is increasingly treating my house like her right right right that's been an encroaching for a little bit now it sort of sounds like but yeah you have to make those decisions like Genevieve is often putting things in the fridge where like she had some special recipe that she made you know she's part of this thing called country club where it's like her and I don't know group of 10 friends or something along those lines they started the beginning of the alphabet and are going through every single country on uh god's green globe and making uh meals you know everybody brings one dish for that country and so she's often bringing in ingredients that she only needs once or twice or something right and for some reason i don't know what it was she made something uh maybe of months ago i guess and it took like some sort of huge canister of some kind of yogurt thing you know it wasn't even like your basic yogurt i don't know it wasn't greek yogurt it's some sort of special yogurt and like it was albanian yogurt it was albanian yogurt that's constantly trying

00:30:39 - 00:30:45 | Speaker 2:

to immigrate to greek yogurt because it'll be an improvement in the lifestyle so it's like for me

00:30:45 - 00:31:41 | Speaker 1:

i look at these things and i'm like i know what's going to happen to that it is going to stay in the fridge taking up a lot of space until it eventually expires then it'll expire and then i'll say genevieve can i throw this away and then she'll say fine which is exactly what happened this week i found that thing way i was fighting for room in the fridge and then i see oh well there's a swimming pool a virtual swimming pool of yogurt in the back i pull it out and the expiration date or best by date or something was uh just over a month ago and you know you probably don't want to mess around with yogurt i don't want to mess around with yogurt even if it says it's future date is what about what about beef yogurt straw oh yes that's some of the best two weeks old so i said to vive i'm like this thing is over a month expired can i throw this away now and she's like okay and i'm kind of like but i could have just done this if yeah your point is why did we

00:31:41 - 00:31:45 | Speaker 2:

have to do this whole dance why did we have to sit in the fridge we know we know what this is

00:31:45 - 00:31:55 | Speaker 1:

gonna end yeah we know ourselves we don't have to do this and then and then it's still a reluctance and but anyway people have their own style they sure do i'm probably somewhere in the middle and

00:31:55 - 00:32:42 | Speaker 2:

i think i'm actually moving towards mom i hope you're still listening if you've listened this far and you're mad at me right now i think i'm moving not listen this beef stroganoff thing is absolutely off the rails i'm not moving that far but as i have tried to cook at home more and and also just cook in a more kind of freelance way at my house so it's i'm i'm hungry and i could like drive down to town and get food or i could door dash or i could have a pizza delivered which has been typically what i've done instead what i've really been trying to do is go like well what do i have in the house right now what is in the refrigerator and i have found myself leaving stuff in the fridge for longer and then consuming it i mean not stuff like yogurt but you know like some veggies like you know if it's uh like uh i have you know cucumbers go bad so yeah they do

00:32:42 - 00:32:59 | Speaker 1:

buddy have you noticed that yeah i i because i love cucumbers so i always have them in the fridge but then i kind of fell down on my um kind of routine of salad making that i had and so i the past few they get so slimy yeah i've i've had to throw away full cucumbers that are just like so

00:32:59 - 00:34:25 | Speaker 2:

gross so quickly but sometimes i'll get one that's like half of it's slimy but the other half the southbound end of the northbound cucumber is sort of fine or just like you know like lots of things even you know i this will probably well this will gross you out for about 10 reasons but i definitely grew up in a household where if there was cheese and it had mold on it like a big block of cheddar cheese you would cut the part that had the mold off and throw that away and then the part that didn't have mold on it would be eaten still and um like i've just i've found myself basically like um salvaging more food out of my refrigerator than i used to just be out of necessity like if i want to make something and i want this in it and it's a little bit on the line or it's some of it it's kind of some of it's not great but i can get rid of the not great part i used an onion the other day i swear this i was making a soup and well what i was i was zhuzhing up a can of soup i had like a can of vegetable soup and i had some carrots and an onion a half of an onion that must have been in there for like two weeks that like i mean that's not really going to go bad in that way worse it just kind of gets rubbery and not as flavorful but i like diced up diced up these carrots and diced up this um onion to kind of give a little extra oomph and some celery too i had like a stalk of celery one part of it wasn't great but my point is i'm going more towards my parents in terms of trying to find a way to salvage more food but i mean that that that stroganoff is that's a bridge way too far for everyone i guess i was gonna ask like if you were

00:34:25 - 00:35:00 | Speaker 1:

home well if you were home it might be sort of in your way so you could sort of have more a better excuse for getting rid of it because like sometimes when I'm throwing things away I'm both like well I want more room in my fridge but also I don't think this is good for Genevieve to eat this or anybody to eat this so like let's get rid of this like would you essentially be in trouble let's say that you were home this whole time babysitting the stroganoff and then your folks come back from vacation they will remember that's one of my favorite Vin de Bona films babysitting the Strogonov. The North remembers. They have not lost track of the fact that they have

00:35:00 - 00:35:25 | Speaker 2:

stroganoff waiting so they come back and you're like they'll be talking about it you're like i needed to toss this guys i needed room in my refrigerator and frankly like two week old stroganoff that was already on the edge and had lived it had incubated itself during a time of no refrigeration like it i just needed to make the call on this what level to what degree are you going to be sort of quote unquote in trouble about that i think to a pretty high degree yeah

00:35:25 - 00:38:18 | Speaker 1:

it was their thing yeah i mean not in trouble here's here's what happened i would say you guys are you nuts that thing was not going to be edible i tossed it out and they would kind of go like oh okay like they're not going to yell at me about it but my mom is going to definitely be ruminating on it yeah my dad will be over it immediately and he will just go eat something else out of the refrigerator my mom it will the principle of the matter will be difficult for her which was there was food that was edible and it's been thrown away for no reason yeah so now let me let me also just throw in quickly my mom was surprisingly chill about buying the new refrigerator like and she said i'm trying to be better about this stuff and i was like mom i am totally i see you and i salute you on this like because you know my parents have before this my parents have never owned a new refrigerator they've never purchased a refrigerator from the store it has always been a used model i think my dad's thought was well that's part of why this one's broken because we always buy used refrigerators and people don't usually sell a refrigerator that's doing great for them it's usually because either you remodeled your kitchen and you have a new color scheme or it's not this refrigerator is not exactly uh you know absolutely killing it in the refrigeration game and so um but my dad was like i want to get a new refrigerator i want one that's going to work i want one that has a warranty and my mom was like okay which i was like mom that's really now adelaide was really trying to she was trying to light a fuse she was like you know i was just thinking grandma i was like i was like watching iago at work i was like what are you doing right now she was like i just kept thinking grandma you know the black friday sale with all the new refrigerators what about all those people that buy those new refrigerators what are they gonna do with their old refrigerators i bet you that craigslist next week is gonna be full of refrigerators stirring the pot she's i know i was like i was like kid you are lighting a fuse that you are not going to be around for the explosion about the head to seattle this is a dangerous game what are you doing right now and my mom to her credit we just like you know she's she she stood she stood by my dad buying the new refrigerator now this was where when my dad came home from buying the new refrigerator he didn't have it with him yet because they were like boxing it up or something it was like the floor model at home depot then my mom was my dad was like my dad got really laser focused on getting the old refrigerator into a truck and down to the dump and my mom was like someone might buy it on facebook marketplace and my dad was like i don't want to deal with that and my mom was like you can you just give me this and then my dad laughed and said okay so i think they're currently while they're in at the timeshare they probably have a listing up on facebook marketplace trying to sell the old refrigerator the one that doesn't work yeah well maybe someone will think they can fix it or something i don't know i don't need a sniffer that's all you need a sniffer so many problems in life could be fixed if you could just get a good sniffer that's what i see

00:38:28 - 00:38:49 | Speaker 1:

thank you baby all right let's thank some of our donors these fine folks are donating their money to tbtl to the business boys so that we can then pay ourselves with that money so this can be our job and also so i can eat beef stroganoff that's only one week old do we accept

00:38:49 - 00:39:03 | Speaker 2:

one week old stroganoff money do we accept uh partially working refrigerators or like do we have a cars for kids model going on here or is this cash only fridge for folks one eight seven

00:39:03 - 00:39:13 | Speaker 1:

seven fridge for folks f-r-i-g fridge for folks that reminds me of the other time i've embarrassed

00:39:13 - 00:40:47 | Speaker 2:

myself on thanksgiving this was i told you yesterday on the show that i kind of teased too hard about um taking these little coaster things off of the the tables at the restaurant we had gone to with Camaro Kev and his extended family. And moments later, like I'm going to say within five minutes later, we're leaving the parking lot. Me, Genevieve, and the Camaros are all in the – the four of us are in the car, right? And we're – Not the Kevs? We're the Kevs. We're rolling by his family who are getting into other cars, and they roll down the window, and they're like, oh, somebody mentions – we start making small talk through the open windows of this running car that I am in. And they're talking about how these other family members had just lost their car because it was total. Luckily, nobody was in the car at the time. It was in the parking lot. But some drunk person had hit it so hard that it totaled their car. And they said, yeah, we couldn't do anything with it. We just gave it to Cars for Kids. And I rolled down my window, and I said, how did you reach them? And they were all like, well, you know, you can just find them online. I'm like, yeah, but how would I go about finding Cars for Kids? They're like, we just called. I'm like, I don't know how you would know what number to call. And then finally, Kevin's like, he listens to too much radio. And he just drove away because I was teasing about the 1-877 cars for kids. It's the biggest commercial earworm, I believe, of our generation. And my joke was, how would one go about finding this organization? And my joke literally ended with Kevin saying he listens to too much radio and driving away while I left a family full of confused people in the parking lot.

00:40:48 - 00:40:57 | Speaker 1:

That was not the Thanksgiving spirit. That was not the Thanksgiving spirit from Kevin, who himself, a power user of local radio, much of an AM.

00:40:57 - 00:40:58 | Speaker 2:

No, he wasn't mad at me.

00:40:58 - 00:41:08 | Speaker 1:

He should have started singing. Listen, this is the friend move there. You start singing, 1-877-CARS-FOR-KIDS, and then everyone laughs, and then you drive away, and then Thanksgiving is saved.

00:41:08 - 00:41:22 | Speaker 2:

It wasn't on him. He did his best. He tried to explain it, and then get it. I'm making it sound like he was angry. He was just trying to save whatever was left of my dignity. He was just kind of like, we need to get out of this situation. I would have laughed. I would have laughed.

00:41:22 - 00:41:25 | Speaker 1:

I would have sang. Sung or sang? What is the past tense?

00:41:26 - 00:41:36 | Speaker 2:

Singed. You know, that reminds me. We haven't even talked about it. I was going to say you would have popped off your shirt and started singing, but I don't know if we have time for that TV story. So let's thank these donors.

00:41:36 - 00:41:42 | Speaker 1:

Well, let's thank the donors, and then we'll see where we're at with things here. Thanks to Katie Porter, who's in Hillsboro, North Carolina.

00:41:42 - 00:41:43 | Speaker 2:

Thank you, Katie.

00:41:43 - 00:42:00 | Speaker 1:

Also thanks to Linda Hill Who's in Bothell, Washington Thank you Linda For whatever amount of time feels right That's what we have to say now That's right Thanks Joe Brenton of North Bend, Washington Mighty Fine Pie Mighty Fine Coffee or Mighty Fine Pie

00:42:00 - 00:42:05 | Speaker 2:

They eat pie but he's always talking about the coffee The coffee is Mighty Fine I believe so

00:42:05 - 00:42:10 | Speaker 1:

And then Melissa Davis is in Milwaukee, Oregon

00:42:10 - 00:42:17 | Speaker 2:

We are, with the exception of our first donor We are, again, highly indexed in the Pacific Northwest today, huh?

00:42:17 - 00:42:40 | Speaker 1:

We are. Yeah, we've got Milwaukee, Oregon, which could, of course, be Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It's not. It's Milwaukee, Oregon. We've got Laura Cotty's, who's in Portland, Oregon, keeping it Oregon's way. And then Jennifer Horner is in Seattle, Washington. So there you go. Bothell, North Bend, Milwaukee, Portland, Seattle. And then, coming in hot, Hillsborough, North Carolina. Tar Heel country.

00:42:41 - 00:42:41 | Speaker 2:

That's great.

00:42:41 - 00:42:43 | Speaker 1:

Is everything in North Carolina Tar Heel country, I assume?

00:42:44 - 00:42:56 | Speaker 2:

Sure. I'm going to go with yes. And did the Panthers, was it? No, I get a lot of these teams confused. Was it the North Carolina team that ended up felling the Rams this past weekend? Yeah, the Carolina Panthers. It was the Panthers, so there you go.

00:42:56 - 00:43:40 | Speaker 1:

Took the Rams down. So thank you, Katie. I was listening to the Carolina Panthers radio broadcast on my phone. Oh, interesting. Because I can do that with Sirius Satellite. and because YouTube TV wouldn't let me watch that game because it wasn't considered the local game here in Florida either. So I'm walking around the Miami International Airport listening to Luke Keekly as the color commentator and whoever their main play-by-play guy is talk about Carolina Panthers football. It was the most random thing. And then they had this great strip sack of Matthew Stafford to seal the game, which was just like i've never been fist pumping over a carolina panthers related event but i was

00:43:40 - 00:43:44 | Speaker 2:

keekly is a name i haven't heard in a long time was he a kicker he wasn't no he was a linebacker

00:43:44 - 00:44:00 | Speaker 1:

very very good linebacker for the panthers for many years well you know what they just kept talking to a guy named luke and i just did the math he was keekly he might not be maybe there's a different luke there but i my guess is that it's former panthers linebacker luke keekly it'd

00:44:00 - 00:44:07 | Speaker 2:

be amazing like as a broadcast ever had a kicker as the color commentator yes

00:44:07 - 00:44:49 | Speaker 1:

yeah I mean I think a TV I think there was a guy who was a former kicker and I can't think of his name right now but I think there was a guy who was a former kicker who was a kind of on-the-field reporter guy for some of the network stuff and it's escaping me at the moment but I do think it has happened but it is very, very rare. It's very, very rare. In fact, Jason Myers, I was also listening to the Seahawks game on Sunday when I was trying to get to the hotel, and Jason Myers, our kicker, was kicking a lot of good kicks and kicking a lot of field goals and kickoffs and stuff, and Steve Rabel said to Dave Wyman, I know you hate kickers, but you have to admit you like Jason Myers.

00:44:49 - 00:44:59 | Speaker 2:

I heard that. I heard that in the car as well. That was funny. I love the rapport between those two guys that are great true true friendship during a a football game i love it

00:45:00 - 00:45:02 | Speaker 3:

so much. Also, I want Sebastian Janikowski

00:45:02 - 00:45:04 | Speaker 2:

to be my color commentator, by the way.

00:45:04 - 00:45:17 | Speaker 3:

I mean, he is that's, if there was a kicker that I'd like to, if there's a kicker I'd like to hear his thoughts on many things, it'd be Sebastian Janikowski. Listen, thank you so much to our donors. Thanks for making TBTL possible. We could not do this without you.

00:45:23 - 00:45:28 | Speaker 1:

Hello, and welcome to Top Story. I, you know,

00:45:28 - 00:45:29 | Speaker 3:

I don't know really where we...

00:45:29 - 00:45:36 | Speaker 1:

i don't know how this is a top story andrew what a great intro just but i didn't sigh

00:45:36 - 00:46:50 | Speaker 3:

well you know i don't know where we go with this topic and if it's a top story or not but it's the thing that i'm thinking about because when we're done taping today i'm going we're going out on a boat um with the cbs crew because the base i'm doing a story here about it's generally speaking about miami about just kind of like you know a couple days in miami like this is this incredibly vibrant city it's also a city that is maybe most affected by climate change you could say one of the most affected by climate change of any of the cities in america uh you know significant portions of it could be taken over by the sea in the not too distant future um and it's just an interesting kind of a cool unique place well the story started because there's this um project to try to rehabilitate some of the coral and also create, I think, a bit of a seawall. They're using some unconventional building products that's out in the ocean, and we're going out there in a boat, and I'm going to be scuba diving, and we're going to be filming it. And somehow in all of this, it never occurred to me that that means I'm also going to be out there shirtless, swimming around, and I'm going to be, you know, not since I did that cold water swim in San Francisco have I had to be shirtless on television. And let me tell you, it wasn't great then, and it hasn't gotten better in the intervening

00:46:50 - 00:47:06 | Speaker 2:

five years wait are you scubaing or snorkeling because if you're snorkel okay i was gonna say if you're scubaing first of all that would take a lot of training i think yes which i don't have and also you'd be wearing a full body suit but if you're snorkeling yeah you're probably just are you picking out your own trunks what are you gonna wear i brought my own trunks yeah i guess

00:47:06 - 00:50:04 | Speaker 3:

that's what i'm gonna wear and like i'm just planning on trying to have my shirt on as long as possible but then the problem is you know my hair is a whole spun sugar situation too so it's like i guess i'm gonna bring a hat and then after because after we swim we're gonna get out i'm sure we'll chat more about what we saw so then i'm gonna be like a drowned drowned rat well i don't know how i'm gonna it's it's really messing with my carefully cultivated situation with my mostly my hair but also my body so uh what i did today was it was so shameful i i went out on a jog but i did the jug shirtless to oh acclimate yourself tried to get because here's what i was thinking not only am i just not i'm just not in the body that where i feel particularly great about being shirtless on television i'm also very pale right now so it's just kind of like at least if i had a little color i thought it might just even things out it might be a slight improvement of the situation but i had this very very tight window of time between tbtl recordings and live wire and other things i'm doing so i was basically like i have enough time to do this jog and it's sunny out so this jog is going to have to also be the time where i'm trying to get some sunlight on my torso so that involved me then jogging up and down in miami beach along the ocean shirtless wanting to tell everyone who i passed this is not my preferred look this is not my preferred way to do this i'm this is for something else i'm doing this related to something else please i'm not i don't feel like i'm not a guy who's you know got such a physique that i just can't wait to get my shirt off by the way there were a lot of those guys out there i saw him you know a lot of a lot of guys i saw a guy andrew i saw what i think might be the first ever ab implant i've ever seen what yeah have you heard of this do you know that it's a thing okay i don't know if it's a thing maybe you can do a little googling the i saw a feller coming my way from, you know, maybe a 50 yards away, he was coming, we were going in opposite directions and he was pushing a bicycle. And in fact, from far, I could tell that he was a bit older than me. So maybe in his, maybe early sixties, mid sixties. And he looked like he was a, you know, a, a, a somewhat fit person, but also a person in their body at, you know, maybe age 60 or 65. And this is how crazy I am, Andrew. I was like, well, this is a kindred spirit. This is another guy. Cause I'm in a body that you're at at 49. I'm okay with that. Generally. I don't like to go around with my shirt off but I something in my mind was like I'm seeing a fellow traveler here I'm seeing another guy who's in a normal body because what I'd been seeing previous to that were like incredibly ripped guys jogging in Miami with like not an ounce of fat on them so I literally clocked this guy thinking oh good he has a normal body like I do I'll see you and again what normal body means forget, you know, put that aside. I just thought like, I don't have to suck it in when I'm running

00:50:04 - 00:50:43 | Speaker 3:

past this guy. And when I got closer to him, I realized he had the most pronounced abs I've ever seen in my life, even though he was not like a person with 0% body fat. In other words, most of his body looked like, again, I should be so lucky if I look the way that he looks when I'm 65 years old but it was not in keeping with a person who had incredibly defined abs he had like the most defined abs i've ever seen in my life that like they were glued onto a torso that made no sense for those abs and i thought is ab is is a is there such a thing as an as a as an like an ab

00:50:43 - 00:51:37 | Speaker 2:

replacement i have been searching this like crazy since um you brought it up and first of all i have seen so many pictures of shirtless hunks in the past five minutes you would be shocked and one thing that i have is first of all when i typed an ab implant there's something called an ab implant for dental surgery so that takes you for folks who want to walk in my footsteps at home try abdominal implants that's going to get you closer to it and one thing that i've homed in on here luke is there's something called ab implants and ab sketching and they're different It looks like, I'm going to read you here off of... He had one of these. Yeah, it says absculpting surgery and abdominal implants are both surgical procedures that are used to enhance the appearance of the abdomen. While they both provide a similar outcome, there are differences. Let's see here. What are they, though?

00:51:37 - 00:51:40 | Speaker 3:

There's absketching like a tattoo of your abs on your abs?

00:51:40 - 00:52:10 | Speaker 2:

I'm trying to figure this out. procedure absculpting surgery involves liposuction or other fat removal methods to shape and contour the abdominal area involves making small incision in the skin etc uh abdominal implant surgery on the other hand is a relatively new procedure but one that is gaining in popularity uh involves inserting a south beach gear it involves inserting a silicone implant into the abdominal wall to create an artificial muscular definition that's what this guy had area yes it was a trip and true

00:52:10 - 00:52:54 | Speaker 3:

It was so interesting because, I mean, what we all know is that, like, the thing about having abs is it's just the absence of having any other fat on your body. That's sort of what kind of brings them to the surface and all of these things about, you know, I'm going to do a thousand crunches and I'm going to do all these sit-ups and I'm going to really build up my abs. Well, as long as your abdominal muscles are underneath a layer of fat, which, by the way, they probably should be. There's probably some basic human evolution reason why we do this, like why our bodies are the way they are. But certainly, what I've never seen before this was a person who has a very, very typical body for someone their age and then just randomly has the sickest abs I've ever seen on a human being.

00:52:54 - 00:52:58 | Speaker 2:

It was so trippy. I can't wrap my head around that stuff.

00:52:59 - 00:53:00 | Speaker 3:

So anyway, I'm trying to get those before the shoot.

00:53:00 - 00:53:04 | Speaker 2:

That sounds good. You're trying to get them implanted. That would be good. You can go in again.

00:53:04 - 00:53:13 | Speaker 3:

So I'm going to need to kind of cut today's show short. I've got about eight more minutes because I've got to get my ab implants before we get on the boat. I've got to get on the boat in an hour, so that leaves me a half hour for ab implants.

00:53:13 - 00:53:21 | Speaker 2:

Well, that's probably good. You'll look like Tobias when he got his hair transplant, as I like to reference on the show as much as possible. Yeah, exactly.

00:53:22 - 00:53:29 | Speaker 1:

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. No, man, it's not from a female.

00:53:29 - 00:53:38 | Speaker 3:

i have a dream andrew that one day we will talk about the chair company oh yes actually this is

00:53:38 - 00:53:58 | Speaker 2:

good today is not that day this gives me another pass at it actually because like i said i was pretty well into my cups when i came home one night and watched it and i was like i kind of it was kind of shocking and then this morning i was like shit we were probably going to talk about that and i don't even have a good sense of that's good because i watched it i told you i

00:53:58 - 00:54:12 | Speaker 3:

watched it sober but i also am i feel really foggy on the details so i would i would love it if you use the extra 24 hours and no pressure but to um yeah if you re-familiarize yourself with it then at least we'll have a fighting chance of describing it somewhat accurately yeah which is a i think an

00:54:12 - 00:55:55 | Speaker 2:

issue a lot of people are struggling with on this monday as i see people trying to do recaps of it so um let's just say you are not alone in your confusion and and my my shock at the fact that it seemed like a wound was closing and then they ripped it right open at the end anyway more on that but let's get into an email here related to something that i was talking about it had real uh old man uh was it yells at cloud energy the other day when i was telling you i was filling out a form or a customer you know survey customer service survey after i had some you know So low needs but good service experience at a T-Mobile, where I went in to have them put a new screen saver or screen protector on my phone. I overpaid a little bit, but I just appreciated somebody doing it for me, and they did it very quickly. I didn't wait at all. They were pleasant, and I was out the door in, like, five minutes, you know, and so it was a good experience. So when T-Mobile was like, hey, how did we do with the service? I thought maybe it would be good for this person who helped me for them to see that they got a good put-up or whatever. So I'm like, okay, fine. And I told you I didn't have anywhere else to be. This happened to be during my morning constitutional, and I'm not talking about the walk here. So I was like, fine, I'll fill out this form via text. And I was like, yep, everything was good. everything was good and then the last question was you know on a scale of one to ten would you recommend t-mobile to a loved one based on your experience or whatever and i was like well no because i'm not going to recommend t-mobile based on somebody putting a screen saver on my or a screen protector on my phone like that's not how this works that's not how any of this works oh you gotta go with t-mobile they put overpriced screen protectors on your phone with a smile

00:55:55 - 00:56:06 | Speaker 1:

You know what I mean? So I just put a five. It's not the doctor who figured out an immunotherapy to treat this cancer that nobody thought was treatable. Right. That's a person that you're going to go and recommend to friends and family. That's a 10.

00:56:06 - 00:58:03 | Speaker 2:

Or if I found myself traveling and my friend had a phone service that was terrible the whole time, but T-Mobile really got us out of so many conundrums or sticky situations because, you know, it had T-Mobile provides good overseas service as well as whatever. You know, like then you'd be like, yeah, you know what? I would recommend T-Mobile. In this case, it was just a screensaver. So I put five. Not good. Not bad. No, I'm not recommending, but I'm not anti-recommending. But then the system went berserker on me. It's like, what's wrong? why are you giving a five? Tell us what happened that went so wrong. Can we call you? Can we call you to make it right? And I was just like, no, it's fine. Like, just everybody calm down. And you and I got into a discussion about it. It sort of seems like that's the way these ranking systems work these days. The companies just want to overinflate their four and five star service or 10 star service or whatever, just so that they can brag about it in Luke wilson commercials you know and so anyway so they can separate fact from fertilizer that's right ian basically confirms this he wrote in to say as someone who used to work in the retail space uh it's likely that t-mobile is using the quote net promoter score style of survey net promoter score luke uh many companies do this nowadays essentially zero through six is a negative score seven through eight is neutral, and nine through ten is positive. This is why you'll often hear employees ask for a ten when they mention their survey. It's often used for yearly reviews, not that any retail companies give big raises anyway, but that's besides the point. It's not quite besides the point, but I bet the survey wouldn't have asked you why you hadn't had a good experience if you had given anything less than an eight. It's a broken system that only exists for corporations to rank retail chains and their employees. That's from Ian in Tacoma. So that's basically what I expected, except I didn't know it was called the net promoter score. But it's all bullshit.

00:58:04 - 00:58:15 | Speaker 1:

But so then they the last line of Ian's email was this is something that they use that like the T-Mobiles of the world use to promote themselves to other companies or is it to promote themselves to us?

00:58:16 - 00:58:20 | Speaker 2:

I don't know. It says that only exists for corporations to rank retail chains and employees.

00:58:20 - 00:58:33 | Speaker 1:

so i don't know i see i i mean i i still think they should go back to what i described which was a ranking system that only goes from it starts at 10 it's 9 and 10 that's all you can do is 9 or 10

00:58:33 - 00:58:50 | Speaker 2:

yeah oh i'm looking at it now if you look up net promoter score it's true it was 0 through 6 are all in the red and then 7 and 8 are yellow and then 9 and 10 are green by the way this reminds me of something interesting luckily i don't know enough about it to keep you late luke But look for this.

00:58:50 - 00:58:51 | Speaker 1:

Gotta get that ab implant.

00:58:51 - 00:59:49 | Speaker 2:

Your mom is big on IMDb scores, right? No, my mom is big on Rotten Tomatoes. That's going to be a little bit different. But I was reading a sort of weirdly academic, data-driven approach to analyzing what they call, I think, the nine deficiency or something like that in ranking movies on IMDb. If you look at a lot of TV shows and movies that are mostly positive in their reviews, but you're giving it like one through 10 stars or maybe zero through 10 stars, you'll see the popular ones have a high ranking for 10 and a pretty high ranking for eight. But for some reason, nines dip. And ever since this was pointed out to me, I'm seeing it a lot. Like there's something like ranking for some reason people are and there is all kinds of theories built into it, but like reluctant to give the nine. You'll get a lot of 8s and you'll get a lot of 10s, but you'll get a little dip in the 9s for some reason, and I find it fascinating.

00:59:49 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 1:

I would think 9 would actually be used a lot, because to say something's a 10 feels so extreme to me. Right. Like, there are very few movies that I can think of that are a 10.

01:00:00 - 01:00:07 | Speaker 2:

for me, but I could think of a lot of nines. I would think you'd be doing nine a lot because you loved the movie, but it's very hard to say that it's essentially the perfect

01:00:07 - 01:00:34 | Speaker 1:

film. Here, I'm going to see. I'm going to run the test here on The Hunt for Red October and... Nope, sorry. The Hunt for Red October, not as praised as I thought it would be. It's heavy on the seven and eights, and then the nine and ten dip down lower and lower, so that's not a good example. I might be able to find one on the fly. I thought The Hunt for Red October would be a good example. I thought people are net positive about that movie. How funny would it be if my mom became a Letterboxd person? Oh, that would be awesome.

01:00:34 - 01:00:41 | Speaker 2:

Like, suddenly she jumps from Rotten Tomatoes to Letterboxd. I haven't gotten on Letterboxd yet. Have you?

01:00:41 - 01:01:13 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm messing around in that space a little bit because my friend Nick, he was even on TBTL one time when you were out talking about Letterboxd scores and little lists that you can put together. I think we were talking about his list of, or we each came up with lists of movies that are good to put on mute on a bar or in a bar situation. Oh, right. That's a fun one. But anyway, so I've dipped my toes in and it's always intriguing to me, but then I never have the follow through. I'm kind of using it a little bit as a to watch list now. Like when I see something, I'm like, oh, I always meant to see that movie. I'll add it to my letterbox list.

01:01:13 - 01:01:39 | Speaker 2:

it seems like one of those rare and I guess I don't know if you'd call it social media or not but like one of those platforms or things that it went from I had never heard about it to everyone I know in a certain kind of who has a certain sort of I guess you would call it worldview or you know likes to talk about movies or thinks culture pop culture kind of matters or whatever like everyone I know is on Letterboxd and it's their favorite thing that they're on now

01:01:39 - 01:01:50 | Speaker 1:

I like it I like reading other people's stuff but it's a it always seems like a lot of pressure for me i've only written one or two reviews i think uh well it doesn't matter what i wrote reviews for uh because we're running

01:01:50 - 01:01:54 | Speaker 2:

did you read my review of ernest saves christmas i said it's a spoiler why do you put it right in

01:01:54 - 01:02:30 | Speaker 1:

the title that's such a problem letters boxed it's the top post by the way i um was looking to watch that this weekend and uh it is rentable on one of my services i might rent it at some point i think we should at this point i should give you a review of whether or not it holds up I found myself this weekend, though, really craving, like after Thanksgiving, not holiday movies, but those movies that are holiday adjacent that take place during the holidays. And I put Trading Places in that category. So we watched Trading Places the other day. I don't know if you recall. Do you think that's a Christmas movie? Or I think of it as a Christmas adjacent movie.

01:02:30 - 01:02:43 | Speaker 2:

I don't think I've ever seen the movie. I know that it's Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd. Indeed, yeah. But I would be totally not shocked, you know, to hear that, like, a significant or at least some important scenes happen during the holidays.

01:02:43 - 01:02:57 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, there are Christmas trees everywhere, and it's not like—I don't think there's a holiday—I don't think there's a specific holiday scene. It's just—I could be wrong about that, but it's just the holidays. Right, it's just the backdrop that it's happening at the holidays. And I like that. That's my kind of holiday movie, honestly.

01:02:58 - 01:03:16 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. I could watch that. I mean, you know what I really like about that era of movie is just—we've talked about this before—it's how the film looks, it's the outfits they have the people in, and then, yeah, the Christmas stuff. Like, I actually—I get excited thinking about the Christmas decorations and the background of the movie Trading Places.

01:03:17 - 01:03:18 | Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, that's exactly it.

01:03:18 - 01:03:21 | Speaker 2:

And I assume it happens—is it in New York City or is it Chicago because it's Dan Aykroyd?

01:03:22 - 01:04:05 | Speaker 1:

Ironically. It is actually Philadelphia. A big part of it happens on Wall Street because Wall Street trading is involved. And I didn't watch the very beginning of it. It was Genevieve and a friend and I were watching it. And about halfway through the movie, I'm like, I don't know how stupid of a question this is because I realized that at one point they come outside of Philadelphia police station. I'm like, wait a second. I don't know how dumb of a question this is, but does this movie take place in Philly? I thought this was like a New York movie through and through. And Genevieve was like, that is a really dumb question. She's like, Philadelphia is like a character in this movie I'm like, oh, I just never paid attention Because the Wall Street-ness of it all stands out But I guess they have to take a train back and forth Which is also part of the plot

01:04:05 - 01:04:08 | Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, well now I'm intrigued Well now you've got me

01:04:08 - 01:04:44 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, now it's Philly First thing I review on my letterboxd It's going to be Trading Places Yeah, make sure to address the blackface scene Because that is That's the thing about movies like that It's just like, they're so comforting and good And then you're just like, oh, of course, there's going to be like, oh, there's like two problematic scenes in it. And it's like Dan Aykroyd in full like Rasta blackface. Oh, no. Opposite. Yeah. Opposite Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy's in the scene. It's just it's just it's always just like kind of like, yeah, I love this movie. But you kind of kind of brace yourself for that because, you know, it's coming, you know.

01:04:44 - 01:04:58 | Speaker 2:

It's like the camera crew bracing for me to take my shirt off today. Yes, exactly. Which we'll have a full report on on tomorrow's show, so make sure you tune in for that. In the meantime, thanks for listening, everybody. Have a great Tuesday, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all.

01:05:00 - 01:05:25 | Speaker 3:

I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Every day, once a day, give yourself a present. Don't plan it. Don't wait for it. Just let it happen. It could be a new shirt at the men's store, a cat nap in your office chair, or two cups of good, hot, black coffee.

01:05:25 - 01:05:26 | Speaker 1:

Power out.

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