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well all right hello good morning and welcome everyone to a thursday edition of tbtl the show that just might be too beautiful to live you know you gotta eat that microphone my name is luke burbank i am your host i don't know who that is and i don't care to find out coming to you from phoenix arizona this is the way we talk in tucson arizona and the hyatt place hotel i believe it's the palace conference room at the hyatt place hotel where else would i be bringing you episode 4612 in a collector's series let the fun begin i am already having an incredible thursday i got something very kind was done for me something that hasn't happened in years and years today from a dear friend of mine a dear friend of the show we'll talk about that coming up in a moment also it's a thursday aka a blurs day so we'll do the blurs day messages as uh we like to on thursdays and uh we'll of course talk to this guy longest running co-bro of the show maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships he's wearing a very handsome shirt that his daddy gave your voice is like a combination of fergie and jesus he's andrew walsh and he's joining me right

now good morning my friend we don't say daddy we don't say daddy in my family there was a lot of

pressure on me to embrace that term on the show uh people you know would like to say that they were the perfect daddy or someone was their tbtl daddy and i felt like i was being kind of a prude and now i finally embrace it and and you tell me it's an hr violation that's a figurative daddy

you're you're falling into the classic trap of mixing up a figurative daddy with a literal girl daddy but uh yeah my father did give me the shirt i like it it seems uh it seems to fit me well it looks really nice thank you he did not let me leave cleveland without at least trying it on try it on try it on all right i'll try it on and now it's my favorite shirt walt and i had a whole

thing going for years this is when i was a teenager and i lived at home but my dad had a lot of like flannel shirts and things from the 70s which then by the early 90s had cycled back into being in style particularly in the grunge movement and so like i would constantly steal like his flannel shirts and things like that that were again back in fashion but he somehow got it in his mind that i was also stealing his underwear which is grunge underwear that you wanted yeah i mean you want to talk about grunge in the most literal sense and he would just say this sometimes be like like i'm talking about nowadays if we if we're talking about the olden times it'd be like Oh, yeah, when Luke used to borrow my underwear. And I'm like, sir, that really never happened. That's defamation.

That is defamation.

That is not how you be a daddy.

No, it is. That's not how you are a good daddy.

Hey, we can't go on any longer without introducing our special guest today and our special friend. And by the way, as I said a couple times now, maybe the first person who I'm not paying money to who's picked me up at the airport in about a decade, It's our friend, the one, the only, Nora McInerney.

You're like the coolest person I've ever met. Thank you for having me. I've been laughing out loud, but silently. This whole time.

Thank you for not spoiling the reveal.

I really tried. I really tried. I was head back, full laugh, but no sound.

It's kind of fun to do the show, or at least my half of the show here, with an audience. Also, one of the things, Nora, that's so great about you, you're a good laugh. Like, you're very supportive. But it made me feel like the intro was going okay. because there's a lot going on here. We're in a very antiseptic conference room at a Hyatt talking and we both got one earbud in. The way I talked you into it was telling you the last person who used that earbud was television's Chris Hayes. So it's kind of celebrity earwax on it.

I said, put it in my ear right now. Like, I said, Chris Hayes, get that earbud in my ear.

Yeah, so it's a lot. And then I'm like, well, you know, is this going to be a good show or not from a technical standpoint? But your silent laughing gave me the confidence I needed to get the show started today so thank you for that well i hope you also know that when i live

listen at home alone or at my office alone with my headphones on when I'm not listening to just white noise or nothing. I'm listening to this and that's how I laugh. I laugh like that. I think you two are the funniest people in the world. You're the brothers I never had. I have two brothers. And what people don't know is that you're doing, you guys work so hard. You pushed 40 to 50 buttons before we even started. That's a lot. all of a sudden understand is that we are in a room that is, I've never seen so much gray.

It is. You know that particular color that all of the apartments and the homes that were being flipped went with? What's the, Andrew, you told me a term for it once. It's like a combination of gray and sadness.

Yeah, I think it's gray. It's new build gray. It's millennial gray. It's just gray to the point where I think we're both, I think we're attracted people. We look horrible right now on screen. This is the worst we'll ever look. I look dead. I look like somebody found me in a barrel. I really look very ill and dead. Well, it doesn't.

Here's what it doesn't look like. My screen is a little, the connection we have is not perfect. So you both kind of look like blobs to me, but very attractive blobs. Very attractive blobs. So please don't be too hard on yourself.

Here's what it's not, Nora. And again, we won't use any of the visuals from this out of respect.

use a clip where like you show a side by side of us right now with what we look like in just normal light people will be shocked like the lighting the color scheme in here i can't imagine a person thriving in a professional environment if you had to sit for eight even four even two hours in a presentation in here there's something psychologically damaging to it and i think hyatt should be aware of that and maybe they are you would have entered the chair company

the tv show this the obsession of mine and andrew's for the last couple of weeks and like this is andrew this is right out of uh a scene from the chair company and the reason there's a show pic

that i used actually about i don't know two weeks ago of tim robinson standing in a room exactly like that by himself in an empty office of that color just looking at his phone i'm going to ask two favors here really quickly to start to cut you off luke could you kill that knob that has the drops on it i mean a lot of buzz on that and nor could you hold up a newspaper with today's date on it just to like really kind of complete the scene it is it's it's this is like a where

we are right now the backdrop it is like a hostage video but with lower stakes it's not like the taliban has us it's like it's like marty from business development has us and there is a lunch later we will get out of this room yes but you know what i mean but like promise you the

Taliban has better style. I promise you their interior, their sense of interior space, design, even hospitality, frankly, is better than this Hyatt Place conference room. And I hope that the team at Hyatt hears this. I hope they take it to heart. Like this, something is energetically very

wrong with this room, but we're going to survive. The reason that we're in this room is because, um, i flew here this morning from miami and um i was gonna ask nora basically when i had you kind of like nearby where i could make the case i was going to ask you if you would want to come on the show for a few minutes so we could just catch up and everything we love you you're a big hit guest on the program but i also didn't want uh us to go into my hotel room which we know each other for a long time we know there's no weirdness but it you know still like i don't know what the room layout is i don't know if we're going to be sitting on the bed together that might be a

so uh they they were i'm sorry that's so mike pence of you you can't go to a hotel mother won't let me with a woman you've known for 10 years you can't say come to my hotel room and record

in a possibly queen-size bed i just you know wanted to err on the side of uh of not making anything feel a little off a little weird so i asked your original idea was to do it in a jacuzzi

luke that's what that's what you pitched me on which is by the way being cleaned oh right because

of because mike pence was here last week and it's they have to absolutely power wash that thing it is some unspeakable things happen in there with him and mother yeah yeah that does seem like what mike pence's idea of a jacuzzi would be fill it up with milk room temperature milk sit in there um but so they were nice enough to um to offer me the use of this conference room this was actually brokered by uh by colin miller who is the uh the cfo of wait wait don't tell me he set this up for me because i asked him if he could if he could intervene and he did so thank you colin oh wow um i do have some i do have some news nora about tonight's wait wait don't tell me that i also wanted to wait till we were together because i feel it may cause you to no longer come to the show tonight What is it?

it. Tig Notaro is a scratch. Oh, that's okay. That's okay. I'm sad, but I'm really just there

to see you. Aw. Wait, hold on. Where's my sound effect? Where's my aw sound effect? Yeah, that's a... Oh, I turned down the knob. No one's going to... Do they need me? I mean, that would have been

an amazing... Tig Notaro can't make it. What if there's a taller, straighter woman who no one's

heard of? That's not true at all. A lot of people have heard of, and actually, you know, it's funny. this is a this is a conversation we should be having off air so why not do it here but i was like well i only found out this morning that tig is not on the show because they sent around this little thing about the you know the the made-up story versus the real one and i didn't see tig notaro on the email chain and i so i emailed one of the producers go oh she not doing it anymore and they were like yeah last minute scratch but if i would have even had three days i would have said you gotta have nora on you would be such a natch for this show so it starts tonight backstage stage i want you to be your absolute funniest in front of the producers no pressure and um i know you should totally be on the show you it's it's so up your alley um but um but no in fact they did book they they did i guess i don't know if it was it's going to be a shantira jackson who's very funny and alonzo bowden who's really funny i don't know which one of them was the tig uh replacement i know it wasn't me only because you saw some kind of internet posting

about this and that's how you reached out i got an ad i got an ad and i said i have to find out about this from a targeted instagram ad it was effective i screenshotted i sent it to you and i said i'm picking up from the airport with a dagger emoji i said that's a threat i'll see you

there and this is she's not doing this for effect folks this is really how this how this whole thing went down and i was obviously very flattered or i felt very um cared for not afraid cared for but i also, I feel like for most people in normal life, I would say, uh, picking up people at the airport or taking the airport is right below moving, helping them move as far as the things that people typically kind of like try to get out of. And so I didn't want you to feel like you had to do that. And then you said something to me, amazing. You said, it's my favorite errand.

I have a hundred percent my favorite errand. I love picking people up from the airport. I love bringing people to the airport. I think also a Sky Harbor plug for Sky Harbor. It's just a lovely airport it's a nice pickup drop-off experience short-term parking like it was what is three dollars uh that's for cbs to iron out okay it was three dollars three hundred dollars i think it was three hundred dollars when we paid cash and uh i don't know i just love it it's my i loved being picked up from the airport when i was younger that was something my parents always did for me and uh i also just you know i spend a lot of time alone like i don't have an andrew so i'm mostly alone yeah i don't have an andrew and i want everyone in the audience to go oh i never thought

of it that way it's just oh can i i can i be your andrew i i'd be happy to be your andrew look okay

it's like but you're so busy doing this and like you're so attentive to luke and his needs like realistically like you can't handle two luke's no one can yeah but inside all of us there are two

luke's that relationship and they both have bad credit a little bit stale honestly they'll be

there in five minutes okay you don't understand like we're on the way and also i will say though

you you were like early to pick me up from the airport today which i didn't realize you were going to come into the airport so we're we're texting with each other and i'm guessing that you're doing that move where you're just circling the pickup area and just hoping that you sort of catch me at a moment and then getting yelled at by someone i mean there is i don't think that there's an angrier group of people than whoever is assigned to tell you to keep it moving at the airport. That is a, that's like, that's, that's a strong reproach from those folks, but no, I'm texting with you about athleisure and I turn around and there you are.

I was at your, I was at your baggage claim, but also because I pulled up and I said, this looks busy. It's a Wednesday in December. I don't know why everyone's coming here. It's weird to me. There was, I've just, it's never that busy unless it's spring break or like a holiday and, or no, it's too late for the snowbirds to be coming down right when the weather turns up north, then it starts getting crowded at the airport. But to circle there is actually more annoying than just doing short-term parking, right? We took the elevator up. Where was my car? Right

there. Piece of cake. And by the way, without doxing, Nora, a very easy car to identify because it is a very unique color. I believe it is Miami blue. It's Miami blue. It's the most obnoxious

car you've ever seen. And a man at the car wash today said it was sexy. And I am in day four of Diane Keaton December. So I know he meant it. I know he meant it about the car. I know he wasn't speaking about me. And I do move through the world believing that everybody is in love with me. Like if you've seen me, you're going to pine for me for the rest of your life. But he was looking at the car and that's okay. Diane Keaton, December. What is this? Yeah. I wish again, I don't want to get

into like objectifying or anything, but Nora, first of all, Nora looks phenomenal and amazing, but is wearing an outfit that Diane Keaton would definitely have been wearing in Annie Hall. Yes, now I can see you guys a little bit better. Yes.

I have a body. Okay, you don't even know if I've got trouser jeans on. It's going to be 70 degrees today. Okay, button down, cashmere sweater. What is this? A blazer. Dementia.

Is it houndstooth?

Maybe not quite.

Checkers of some kind. A cravat?

Yeah, a little scarf because you never know. Can't even see that. Do I have a neck? You'll never know. And then glasses. So, yeah.

It is so working. It's a great look. good um thank you thank you i will also say that like for all of the pushback i gave you on saying no no no no you don't have to come pick me up it really made me super happy and because and and what it's reminding me of is like because i do so much work travel and i've i've moved past ever like asking anyone or expecting anyone in my life to ever pick me up from the airport i always just like get in a lyft or an uber or whatever and um there are some times because portland airport has been totally remodeled now and they have that one of the cool things they did was they have this like very beautiful like blonde wood bleachers they're like stadium style bleachers right where you come through security like after you've landed so now you're outside of security and there's something about having dedicated seating people love it people come pick their loved ones up at the airport they have balloons and sometimes i'll be walking out uh from this and you know maybe it's even sort of late at night, a long week of traveling, and there'll just be people with signs and balloons, and I'll kind of pretend it's for me.

Oh, Luke. But it's also, it's faster, and also you do travel a lot for work, and I got to bring you a Diet Coke.

That was another thing that she did, said, what's your beverage of choice? How about a nice cold Diet Coke? And gosh darn it, if there was a nice cold Diet Coke waiting for me in the Miami Blue vehicle.

And I had to problem solve it a little. I said, how will I keep this cold if it's if it's delayed at all and so i had an empty candle vessel and i filled it with ice and i put the coke in it so as the ice melted it could keep the coke cold jam that in the cup holder it's fun for me i can't explain it it's fun for me when you leave tomorrow um very early uh my flight is at 7 a.m oh that's that's i can do that i'm gonna do that i'm gonna come get you tomorrow i'm gonna come get you tomorrow look outside the car is gonna be there wait hold on what time do you get

to the airport for a 7 a.m flight luke i get there 5 a.m but you guys are both last minute oh well

no i mean to me no no not yeah yeah no no a 7 a.m or let me just let me i do have an alert from alaska that says it is time to check in for the flight which is you know the move i fly a lot there's a lot norah is now norah has seen two very very private sides of me andrew just since we've been here one was the desktop on my computer which has hundreds of files and documents and photos anything that i don't like know where i want to actually put it for the time being i just drag it to the desktop and i figure i'll go back and deal with it later but it is very very it's it's it's disorganized and pretty unhinged looking and then i'm in the alaska app trying to see what's going on get the exact time on my flight tomorrow and um and and nor was observing my uh um yeah Yeah, 7 a.m. is when my flight is. I can now check in for it. Let's play this fun game. Am I going to be first on the wait list for the upgrade? Because that's, you know, I would think 7 a.m., right? Like flying from Phoenix to Seattle. This is a chance for me to also mention. Tomorrow night, LiveWire in Seattle. Please come out. It's going to be fun. Rick Steves will be there at Benaroya Hall. Yes. Would love to see some of the 10s there. Still some tickets available, if you know what I mean. But anyway.

Do you mean that there are still some tickets available?

That's exactly what I mean, Andrew. Okay. Okay. Let's go to wait list. We want to see drum roll, please. B U R slash L number one on the wait list for the upgrade. So that's, that's sweet. But all that is to say, Andrew, to answer your question, I will, um, be there tomorrow. I would, ideally I would show up exactly what I did in Miami today. I try to be walking into the airport exactly one hour before the flight is leaving. that is and you know that that's like with alaska airlines for instance they will not let you um check your bags in anymore within 45 minutes of the flight and that to me is the only hard deadline if i can just as long as i can get my so if i get there an hour before that gives me 15 minutes to get my bags on their way to the underside of the plane and then the getting through you know i have clear and all of that business and so so it's it's it's pretty quick it's pretty easy on the

busiest day at sky harbor it's never taken me more than 10 minutes to get through security really

i do i am shocked at how few people because i was flying on the sunday after thanksgiving i flew from portland out to miami and i was really surprised the line was insane for the non-tsa pre-check folks and again i guess this is just because i travel so much i'm a little surprised that more people have not

availed themselves of the pre-check because it is you've got it now right andrew no i do not yet

you still don't have it no i just i finally am on the calendar to get my uh you know enhanced driver's license that'll give me like the real like a real idea what are you talking about yeah

i don't have my real idea did you not get radio ads and get a real idea no yeah i've been hearing

it for like a decade or more i i just used my passport for the past like six months or a year since it kicked in but literally i don't know if i told you this luke i have an appointment on Christmas Eve at 4 p.m. to go get my enhanced driver's license for a real ID.

Is Bob Cratchit going to be the guy helping you with the DMV?

Well, imagine. So that was the first time available, so I took it, and this was about a month ago. How excited do you think those employees are going to be to see me walk in the door at 4 p.m. on Christmas Eve to screen me and give me a new ID? I'm expecting the worst customer service possible, and rightfully so.

I want you to go full Scrooge. I want you to go in and you go, I expect you'll be wanting all of tomorrow off.

I think based on your persona too and your in-person warmth, they're going to be so relieved to see you because everybody else who's come in for the past 23 days has been so vile. So you are going to be a breath of fresh air. You're going to bring a ham. You're going to bring one bean and slice it up and pass it out to everybody. And everybody's going to feel better having gotten you there. And honestly, I bet you get your real ID so fast because you're so lovely.

I think you bring in a Stanley Tumblr of spiked eggnog. And you give everyone just a little, not you, not anyone taking the driving test, but the people on the other side of the glass.

I don't think I have to take a driving test, do I?

Okay, well then you can have some.

yeah then i could have a little if i had to take a written driver's test right now and i by the way i think they should make us take written driver's test more this i got so many complaints but like people just like they'll just like they'll just block an intersection like you're not supposed to do that like don't go if you don't think you can get through and like even if you're on a road like don't block like the turn to the other like what are you doing people have to take written driver's test i want to bring those back spontaneous written driver's test i see maybe even

the cops can do it if they get pulled over i you know i took the driving test like maybe four or five years ago because i changed my driver's license from washington state to oregon because i was living in portland and i was kind of stressed because you get to miss like five of them or something and you know there's the gimmies but then there's i think it was like i got like four wrong and it was like and and it was the time was during the pandemic so you couldn't there were no appointments i had to drive to coos bay oregon which is really far from was like three hours away for the only appointment and and it was like if i fail this test i can't just retake it i have to like get a new appointment or i have to like go home and then come back to coos bay it was like when my when that mouse or whatever i was using was hovering over the final question which was like basically do i have to come back here and do this again and i clicked it and like went green or I passed. I don't know if it gave me confetti. I was seriously relieved. I, I would be too. And

I, I had to take it. I can't remember under what circumstances, but I do remember the tricky questions were about distances, 5,000 feet, 500 feet. I, if gun to my head, if you said which one, if you asked me to identify what is 500 feet, I'd say, pull the trigger, baby. You and I,

I don't know. As we established, as we established today, you and I, as we took a, let's just say

circuitous route to this hyatt i said what is 0.3 miles what do you even mean like what do you when

would i take the right just say like three two one go yeah we like i need i need a navigator who's

like see that blue car okay now go there okay and then there's that tree okay stop like that's what i need not like 0.3 miles what are you even talking about yeah as we were talking today as we did i

believe maybe miss the turnoff and then maybe go down and get off of the freeway and do a u-turn and come back on the freeway going in the other direction a move i've pulled so many times if if it's anything under a mile my assumption in other words when the mapping software is telling me do this in four tenths of a mile i am assuming that it's in the next 20 feet it feels like an immediate urgent um you know admonishment to me to start and like but i've been using this software for years and years and years and no part of my brain has has like sort of evolved to understand that like four tenths of a mile is still pretty far away I still have some time like if I see four tenths of a mile I'm just fully swinging the wheel and crossing four lanes of traffic to get in the

right turn lane we had to do that when there was point two miles I thought that was I thought we had time and I was like nope nope nope that was the only time on the freeway in Phoenix when someone has been driving less than 80

and it was the Prius who would not let me switch lanes. I was like, brother, I need you. I need you to go. I need you to go because I think I'm taking a vital turn. What I'm really doing is taking a turn for the worse because we've already missed several turns and we've got to go the opposite direction. And then as we got here, I said, oh, my office is over here. What? I was driving the opposite direction and I had, I don't know.

And if you want to know, Andrew, how well it's going for our friend Nora McInerney, Nora McInerney, and I'll be vague here because i don't want to again give away too much info but has a place of work that she goes to that is not inside her own home that is the ultimate yeah content creating flex because the rest of us are just mostly in our homes or possibly a very depressing high up place conference room i had to

because i mean i was working at home for it's been 10 years since i've been self-employed always working at home 2020 to 2023 doing that at home during a pandemic with children i like i've apologized to my kids numerous times it'll never be enough i was such a horrible bitch like i was like stop and talking but on air light is on okay i'm recording an ad for brooklinen okay so i know you're so i know you're playing but i need everyone to shut up because i'm gonna snap i've been in this house alone with all of you for several years now and uh when you breathe it bothers me and if you pass a note under the door to say can i have roblox i'm gonna snap i'm gonna jump out the window. Oh, we have a one story house. Okay. Well then I'll, I'll, I'll be rolling an ankle. It, yeah. So I was like, I got to get out. It's going to be better for everyone. 10 minute drive there, 10 minute drive back. It's like, that's kind of, it's, it's very good for me.

It's very good. Yeah. Well, speaking of the Nora McInerney experience, uh, how do people find you? What's the latest with your shows and your writing and your, by the way, your phenomenal Instagram feed, which is a great follow, which I love. Thank you. I'm nothing. I don't know. I'm

so boring and somewhere i just i'm done i don't know who cares who cares i love your show uh i oh i renamed my show i think since we yeah so it was terrible thanks for asking and then i was like i really just now it's just called thanks for asking i should have a tighter speech about that but it's just like you can't be terrible forever you know i think that no honestly i think about

this a lot like the the change of the name of your show and it's actually so like it's beautifully efficient and it like i mean i guess you just sort of got fortunate in that way that i mean thanks for asking is a great name for a show and that you were able to sort of like reframe it a

little bit so it's not purely grief yeah it's not and you can call in we can talk about anything pretty much 612-568-4441 um and yeah i don't know i don't know guys i'm on instagram it's okay

what you have figured out though see this is why you find this room um so particularly punishing to be in and it is from just a lighting standpoint because you have when i see you on instagram and your studio and your backdrop it is like it looks great you have it dialed in

content wise I do need you send me a clip from this that's like that shows you should when I say I look like a dead person versus my lighting I am up I look like I look you know what I look like when you leave a potato out for too long and starts to get like a little green a little gray and you're like that's not a

potato that's how you look here not how you look at McInerney Industries at

McInerney Industries I look like a healthy russet potato here I look like I I look like a potato that's been sat on the counter too long. And you know what I recently heard? You might have to double check this, but it's like if a potato's green, that's poisonous.

No way.

Yeah, verify that, but it's like that's a sign like no good.

So in other words, if it's unripe to the degree, like it's green, it still hasn't even, not.

When it's green, it's like that's showing it's rotted. It's like, it's bad. It's giving off, I don't know, name something that's bad that happens naturally.

Not right now. oh oh you mean like as a chemical maybe there's something in it that's like that's it's a it's a

dangerous sign you'd have to eat i think a thousand of them to like really but it's like don't eat those potatoes like those are potatoes that can go i thought you were looking for the

like we call it what we call it an eye or is it an ear what is the thing that's it's an eye that's growing off of the potato that's when i was like this is sprouted this is bad but but but the green

is also dangerous the green is dangerous i mean i grew up saying like you just lop off the eye like you just dig it out like my mom's like okay so it's okay so it's growing roots grow up and slice this potato up that's all there is for dinner okay i got into a phase this year where

i'm trying to not eat as much processed foods i used to be like all low carbing and stuff which mean potatoes were off the list but then i said i'm just going to eat whatever i want to eat as long as it's minimally processed which includes potatoes so then i got a potato kick but it did involve me having to google how to bake a potato which is a pretty which is kind of a low point because it is applying heat to a fig it's for a long time but just it seems like that's the lowest level of cooking and i did have and i did print the recipe out but also i can't remember numbers

so it's like is it 400

is it 425 is it 375 is it 350 do you know off the top of your head no print it i don't know how you cook chicken every single time i say cooking cooking chicken temperature question

mark that's what you google you mean you google that all the time i do that all the time too i'm always like for because i i roast broccoli all the time but i can never remember and i'm always

typing in roast broccoli time temperature time temperature question mark how how much how soon now um that was you trying to get me to go and say say goodbye goodbye i love you guys friend of the show forever like um call me anytime i'll pick you up tomorrow i have to give you your airpod back and uh and i have to go to work okay i have work to do okay and conveniently you work right by here if you're able to find it and you know what i realized i never paid for parking but you know what i'm blessed big deal like what are they gonna do give me a ticket probably not

I don't think that this Hyatt place is overly sort of like patrolled by security. I think that they put all their money into these handsome gray tables that we're sitting by. I have to get out of here for now. Yeah, okay.

Okay, bye. Thanks, Nora.

We love you. Bye. Thank you so much. That's Norm. Nora just noticed a massive glob of earwax on the AirPod that she was using. So it's either mine, Chris Hayes' or hers.

Is that real? Are you serious?

Yeah, Nora's saying it wasn't her. She's a woman. They don't have earwax, which does not fully check out with my understanding of biology.

That is not science. That is not science. It was great to hear from Nora. It's been way too long for me. I think you guys have been in a little bit more touch. I was surprised. Well, not surprised, but it was enlightening to hear that she found out you were in town through a social media ad. Because I'm being serious. I hope you take this in the right way. And certainly your friends in various states, I think, will take this in the right way. I don't think of you as somebody like when you're passing through some places, you're like, I'm going to take I'm going to look up my friends there because you're usually traveling for work. It's going to be in and out. It's going to add another thing to your sort of like, you know, busy schedule or whatever. And so when I heard that you're getting together with Nora, I was like, oh, wow. OK, so you so you reached out to Nora for your brief stay there. But, no, she had a targeted ad saying that her friend was in town.

Yeah, I want to actually get better about that, though, because, like, for instance, last night in Miami, I had dinner with a 10 named Dan and his lovely 11. We had a little Neapolitan-style pizza. It was wonderful there in South Beach, and I really enjoyed getting to hang out. And, and, and like typically the mode that I'm in when I'm traveling for this work stuff is like, I don't want any like appointments. I don't want any schedule that I have to keep outside of what's related to my work stuff and my TBTL stuff. And then when I'm not doing the CBS thing or, or TBTL, I want to just be able to go and lie on my bed in the hotel room and like look at TikTok or something. And yet when I, when I actually do spend time with people, um, I really enjoy it. Like, that was, it was so much fun, like, seeing Nora at the airport and then, like, hearing the whole story of what she's been up to lately and this truly wild car that she has, which she was, you know, she's such a fun, great person to hang out with. So, I, like, that was so much better than me getting into an Uber and putting my headphones in and, you know, like, I don't know, listening to Pod Save America or something. My point is, I think it would be good for my mental and emotional health if I, if I rethought that a little bit, if I wasn't such a lone wolf, because part of all this travel, it is, it's, it is very lonely making. And I was, I think I was thinking about that a lot in Miami because so many of the people that were there were like with their significant others, you know, and like, I was like having dinner a couple of different nights. I'm having dinner just by myself, either at a table or sitting at the bar and people are on dates or people are celebrating things. And it's like so much of my life because of the travel schedule is me being in places where I'm very dislocated. I, I either don't know anyone or I don't want to bother anyone who's in that area. And I just think of myself as being like a man on a mission. And then I wonder like, Oh, why do I feel lonely all the time? Well, that could be kind of part of it. You know, there's that, that, that saying that you can be alone in a crowd of people and i think i spend a lot of time uh in in crowds of people but i'm not interacting with them a lot or whatever um so uh so yeah i think i think i need to try to update that that being said yeah no i didn't reach out to nora and say hey i'm gonna be in your town come pick me up

yeah i just she literally got an ad saying luke is gonna be in town but i do feel like well and

worse but and worse an ad for tig notaro being on the show which then fell apart that's like i'm legit nervous about this tonight um this is a big we're in a very very big venue i think it's 5 000 people and i don't know how many of those tickets were moved because of the uh of the tignataro factor but it is a very

popular performer and so a lot of these folks don't even know yet folks are going to show up and they're not going to know unless they're really following the website closely or something

exactly well i think that i mean the wait wait staff the second that the schedule changed and and they they changed the lineup up a little bit i know that the the wait wait staff immediately you know pulled all the advertising and and and redid it and like they're being nothing but above board but the way people's minds work is you see an ad you're like oh wait wait's coming to town tigs on and you buy the tickets and then you just kind of don't think about it again until you're sitting in the theater tonight and they're like no tig notaro but guess what we do have a luke burbank that's that's not that's not what anyone wants as a replacement so um we'll see how it

goes tonight you know what i just realized and this is very relevant and a very mature thing for me to point out if you had um a bunch of people serving food to the people who work on wait wait don't tell me it would be the wait wait wait staff i had another similarly mature thought

which i meant to ask nora about which is i wonder if people call nora sometimes nor just kind of for short oh nor and like if yeah nor just like a shortened version of her name the problem is though with the rise of all the australianness and the australian accent if you were excited to see nora in the airport you might go oh nor or nor which would sound like you weren't happy to see her, but you would be very happy to see her, because we now all say R&R as a funny joke. It could be confusing, Andrew.

That's what I'm saying. It is also, while we just can, we should move on, because I know that you have things to do and places to be

as well. You've got to be on Seattle tomorrow.

Oh, that's right. That's coming up in a little bit. You're doing multiple podcasts today.

Do you want to talk about coyotes in urban environments? I've got some thoughts.

Is that one of the topics? Actually, can you tell me what the topics are? I was going to say, I think it's interesting that Nora did evolve the name of her show and I think evolve is the right word there it's sort of tempting should we consider it over again I mean it's a risk you know like to we have established a brand but like hers was such a clean transition sort of you know what I mean it would have to really make a lot of sense but anyway don't worry listeners we're not doing anything just a thought I had and it's just a refreshing way to look at what Nora does and how these things evolve over time especially what she does on multiple platforms and stuff what other topics yeah are on the list so you're going to be taping this afternoon an episode of seattle now podcast for kow that'll come out tomorrow are you allowed to tell us what else is coming up other than urban coyotes i do not know and i do not care uh what

the rules are i will tell you right now so we're doing urban coyotes which really that that's

something that we talked about on tbtl just last week because i have all those coyotes in my

neighborhood and i've now learned something because i take my appearances on seattle now very seriously unlike my tbtl appearances so i did read the materials and um it turns out coyote or coyote hazing is a big thing are you familiar with coyote hazing well i did make one of the

coyotes smoke a full pack of cigarettes in front of me never smoke again i kind of regret that but

it was funny um so the one of the things this was from like actually oddly enough i think it might be the department of agriculture the usda uh which which is surprising i wouldn't know that they were in charge of uh of coyote stuff but they were basically saying like they did a crazy study where they basically had coyotes in captivity and they exposed the coyotes to multiple different kinds of stimuli and one of them was like an adult walking a dog one was like a child walking a dog one was like an adult walking a child like all these different things and to basically the question was like what does it take to like habituate coyotes or make them less scared around people we want them to be scared around people and one of the things they found that could reverse if they were getting too comfortable around people what would reverse it was hazing them i think that the term hazing is very funny and it was having those same people shake like a can full of like loud rocks or something like just making kind of unpleasant noises and yelling at the coyote and over time if they hazed them enough then they became a little bit less comfortable around humans and one of the things in this press release that I was reading was saying if you see a coyote make sure to haze them like if you have a spray them with a hose like yell at them throw stuff at them like you're supposed to be so mean sell them

coyotes sell them a pool pass when there is no pool on the school ground yes

order a bunch of stuff for the dinner that they're not going to eat but then say are we splitting this

order they have peaches delivered to their house unbeknownst to them and stick them with the bill yeah i guess you can't do that anymore i guess that's one thing that i guess that's a prank that really dates me huh like you can't order food and then pay upon delivery anymore you're paying up front Thank you.

yeah you're right that's one way that the the sort of uber eats and the door dashification of life has really changed but yeah so you're supposed to do i just didn't even know before this morning on my airplane flight i didn't know that coyote hazing was something that i should be doing possibly every day yeah if given the opportunity get out okay so coyote hazing and then also ranking the top 10 costcos in the seattle area which is going to be tough for me being that I've been to zero of them. But luckily, the other guest, a writer named Naomi Tomke, who I'm not sure if you've been on the show with Naomi or not.

I don't think so.

Naomi Tomke literally wrote the article for Seattle Met where she did an incredible amount of research. It's a great piece, by the way. She appears to be a really good writer. And it really breaks down the different Costco's in the Northwest and what are the strengths and the weaknesses. I did not know there was any difference. I thought a Costco was a Costco was a Costco, but I guess they have different inventory based on maybe where it's located and what the local community is like. The parking is different, and she really gets into what makes a good Costco parking lot or a bad Costco parking lot.

Is Shoreline on the list? You don't have to tell me where on the list, but is the one that I would go to very low on the list?

It's not. If I remember right, actually, you know what, Andrew?

Maybe that's why I hate Costco's. Maybe that's because I go to a bad one.

I don't want to do that from, I don't want to do that from memory because, um, they, here's, I'll give you a little behind the, behind the scenes because I'm on this email thread, right? Uh, Naomi mentioned in our email thread, I think this is okay for me to share that one of, and I don't remember which one it was, but one of the locations that she basically kind of put it more towards the bottom of the list and she loves Costco by the way. So she's like any Costco will do, but you know, if you're ranking them, one has to be first and one has to be 10th. And one of the ones that was lower on the list, she said somehow before she even had finished the article or posting the article, like maybe or maybe the article had been posted at Seattle Met, but it was up for only a few minutes. She gets a call from the general manager of that location apologizing for the fact that she did not have an ideal experience. And this person said to her something like, we got four or five hundred employees here who feel really bad that you had a less than great experience. And by the way, her experience wasn't even bad. It was just like, you know, you got to rank them and like they're not in charge of the parking lot. Yeah, it wasn't even like it wasn't even like the customer service was bad. It was just like the layout could be more ideal. A bunch of stuff that has no connection to the people who work there. And in her mind, she was like this only sort of like, you know, this only verifies and sort of like proves that Costco is a very, very well run organization that really cares about the customer experience.

Yeah, I will say that. As much as Costco is not for me, I don't like that kind of shopping experience. I don't want to get it twisted. It sounds like they're a pretty good company and it sounds like they treat their employees well. And also the employees really treat the customers well. Every time I've had any kind of experience there, the customer service really is top notch. I should give them a shout out. one thing and i hesitate to even bring this up because this goes a little bit negative town especially in a region that i i love to death here in seattle but one of the only other i'm trying to think i've only been to juan costco and it's the one you know closest to me which is in shoreline and you said that that doesn't even rank super high on this particular list

so maybe i could be misremembering though so i really really want to not be quoted on that

the other costco i went to what and by the way when i go to a costco it's usually like middle of the day middle of the week so i'm not even getting the worst crowds i just get real anxious in there right away and people are i just feel like the the the ability of people to have situational awareness is just like evaporates there and people are bumping like i literally watched a woman like just start walking backwards and bump into people i'm just like how would you just in a crowd like this how do you just decide you're gonna start walking backwards for a moment anyway the only other one i've now been to two and it was in the suburbs of cleveland i don't know exactly where but on somewhere on the west side my dad had to run in just to buy a pie and he ran in middle of the day on a saturday luke the parking lot came back covered in blood the parking lot was a zoo but he found a spot and he doesn't like to park super close anyway uh which is fine um and so but i'll say this and this is where it gets a little bit controversial the layout of the costco was exactly like the one that are very, very similar to the one that I would go to here in my neck of the woods, but the situational awareness of the customers stood out to me. It was like probably twice as busy as any Costco I've ever been in before, but I didn't see this sort of like, I'm just walking at a decent pace with my cart and then I just stop short. And I do think, and this is a little bit rude, of the city that I have adopted and love.

I literally live in my favorite place on earth which is Seattle, Washington but I do think that there is a situational I see it on the highways, I see it on the byways and I see it in the Costco's I think it has to do with situational awareness writ large in this region

That also would kind of explain how you are, maybe that's a Midwest thing, the way that you're like very very, you're hyper aware of yourself in space and you really don't like to be blocking people accidentally or stuff like that. You're super polite about that. I wonder if that's a Midwest thing. I wonder. You know where they really don't have it. Let's not just besmirch the Northwest. Let's also besmirch Miami, Florida. Oh, yeah. Man, that is, as my Aunt Mary Lou once wrote on a term paper in college, it's doggy dog down there, Andrew. People are not, so I told you that the hotel I was staying at, the Good Time Hotel, that they were always having like the front desk line was always insanely long for some reason and i do think it was a lot of like influencers that were having problems with their hotel bill or something but also what was happening is people were constantly coming out of the elevator and then just ignoring the line and i want to be careful about this because it's you know because it can get very dicey but i i was pretty certain that most of the people that were doing that were folks that were that had were not from the united states what based on either the language that i would overhear them speaking with their partner or just a vibe and you know i've been to various places that are not the united states i can kind of sense these things and what it reminded me was certain moments in europe where you're sometimes in a place where it's like it's just you got to fend for yourself more than maybe we do in the united states and so it's like people just and also i could see it associated with like if you live in a part of the world where there's just it's always kind of a hassle Like the line is going to be long, the bureaucracy is going to be tough, the whatever of it is going to be, you then as an evolution, from an evolutionary standpoint, you then develop just kind of like, I'm just going to walk up to the front and I'm going to show them this tag and I'm going to just like get my suitcase. I'm not going to wait in this line of people dealing with reservation problems when all I need is my suitcase from the back room. And you could really see, like it was, I was just noticing it as I was, even last night I was walking home from the pizza party. Oh, by the way, just so you know, and we love this, not to brag, but the business boys, we picked up the tab for the pizza, felt that it was appropriate getting to meet with a 10 and his 11 and somebody who supported the show financially over the years and just seemed like the right thing to do. And it was just you, right?

Just to be very clear. So you were having dinner, but you're saying that we as a company picked up the check as well we should.

Correct. Yeah. TB, the business boys, and I actually had one of the business boys' credit cards with me, which is rare, and it actually worked, which is even more rare, which means I activated it successfully. And I swear to God, sign the bill, say goodbye to everyone, and I start walking down Washington Avenue in South Beach towards my hotel. Bing! My phone goes off. John Sklaroff, this is a suspicious charge for pizza in South Beach. Was this you? Lest anyone worry that the TBTB dollarinis are not being carefully watched by the number one business boy. They absolutely are. And we love that, by the way, because it means that no one's going to get away with any shenanigans.

Well, it's funny because I've done that to John before, too. John and I both have notifications on our phone. Oh, okay.

So you also saw this.

I didn't notice yours. It gets a little bit complicated. Every time somebody buys something from our merch store, I guess I'm just going to explain it. I told you I didn't even want to explain this, but I will. So first of all, anytime one of us uses one of our credit cards, I do get a notification on my phone. I didn't turn it on. I didn't ask for this, but it's what I've been given, and it's fine. It's a good way of, I guess, generally keeping track of things. It gets a little bit confusing, though, because we have this merch store, and so when people buy something off of our merch store, that essentially means we have to buy another shirt from the company that makes the shirts. So basically every time I get an email that says somebody bought something from the merch store, I also get a pop-up notification on my phone saying your account has been charged because we're basically buying the materials that we're then passing along to the tens, of course. So that gets a little bit complicated. So all of that is to say I didn't notice your pizza charge yesterday because it probably just was along in a wash of these other charges. but i will say that yesterday i bought uh some replacement parts for a microphone stand and i was writing the email to you and john saying hey just so you know here's a receipt i bought these things john was already hitting me up in the text message like did you buy this thing but also he is really good today he said hey you're gonna see a big charge that just came through i just uh i just had to buy a bunch of boxes because we're gonna be sending out those uh greatest hits records pretty soon so yeah we do excellent news

no that's good I'd much rather that than the alternative where there's anything lax going on or we're not you know keeping up on that stuff because again we're a um we're a small independent little business that exists only because of our donations and uh and we want to make sure that we're being good stewards with those donations so um yeah no i'd much rather uh john be very on the on the spot and you be very on the spot with it um i am honestly was slightly surprised last night that my tbtb credit card works. Because I don't know if I'm authorized to use it or have it, but it worked

last night. And as I've told you many times, it does not pay for alcoholic beverages. You're going to need to itemize those out of the bill, Luke.

Dan had over 30 drinks.

And they were all beers and very tall boots.

It was weird. Dan had over 30 shots of tequila. He did not like tequila at the beginning of the night, but then he insisted. Man, Dan. All right, let's thank some of those donors. These folks are making TBTL possible. Again, we're being very careful, extremely careful with the donations that are coming in from folks like Nicholas Jeffries of Lake Stevens, Washington. Thank you, Nicholas. This is 100% listener-supported podcasting going on right here. without the Nicholas Jeffries of the world and the Becky Crandalls of the world, who's in West Jordan, Utah.

Oh, I've never heard of West Jordan, but I guess there's a lot of towns in Utah I haven't heard of.

I have heard of West Jordan, Utah, for some reason. But we appreciate you, Becky. We also appreciate Brett and Elizabeth Strouch of Marietta, Georgia. They've been donating for years and years.

Nice. Thanks, guys.

Also, Donna Jarling is in Janesville, Wisconsin. Didn't we just have another Wisconsin person earlier this week from another? I think it was maybe Waukegan. It's Waukegan in Minnesota.

Did I just did I just I have a Waukesha. Is it Waukesha? Wisconsin was yesterday.

A Waukesha.

Waukesha. I knew I was saying that wrong. Sorry, everybody. Oof, that one's going to hurt.

You know what I said wrong yesterday, Andrew? loudly wrong was that Rutgers Rutgers is a private university and it is not of all the universities for me to pick as an example of how you name a private university so we know it's private. I picked one that was in fact public as was pointed out by our friend P. Fletch very quickly upon hearing the show and I'm sure many hundreds and thousands of other Scarlet Knights

I mean I did not catch that either. It's just the The irony, for people who haven't heard it, you were talking about how the University of Miami is, to us, surprisingly, a private school. University of Miami sounds like a public institution. You were saying, why don't these public institutions, or if they're private, they should have a name that indicates it's private? You know, like Rutgers, of all of the examples. You could have said Harvard. You could have said Dartmouth. And I'm not piling on you, Luke. I didn't know either, but it's just the irony of all of the options of private schools. You pick the one public school that sounds like a private school.

Which, by the way, supports my theory that the University of Miami is very misleading, as is Rutgers. As is Rutgers, exactly. Rutgers, you should not, if you're a public institution, you should not be allowed to be named Rutgers. And if you're a private institution, you should not be allowed to be named the University of Miami.

And there's one other I'm going to add to the list. There is an Ivy League school that sounds like a public school. You know what I'm talking about here? Do you know what the Ivies are? I think I'm thinking of University of Pennsylvania. Yeah, University of Pennsylvania. That's another one. Very confusing. Change thy name. Nora did it. You can too. University of Pennsylvania. I'm looking at you.

That's, I mean, easy peasy. Just change the name to University.

Just change it to the University of Rutgers.

There you go.

At Miami. of ohio thanks also to ruthie benton who's in los angeles california hey hey we're both and then we've got kath katherine i i am the city and ruthie exactly katherine harvey is in seattle washington one of my very favorite places to be flying to early early tomorrow morning by the way andrew we haven't even talked about this i may actually need to come up to your house and do the show with you tomorrow in person it depends on when they'll let me into the hotel okay oh yeah this is what's happening is i'm doing this crazy dawn patrol everywhere where i'm getting to places before maybe they're ready to let me into the hotel room yeah okay well i'm glad you let me

know i will vacuum and thank you to all of our

donors for making TBTL happen. We really could not do this without you.

Before we get into the Blur's Days, quick reminder that we do have a TBTL virtual holiday party. Oh, yes. We still call them virtual parties like we did during the pandemic.

That's such a great question because, like, yeah, I think at this point we can just call it a party. It's virtually a party.

Yeah, we're having a party over Zoom holiday party.

It's not a virtual party until Andrew virtually shows up.

That's what they say. But I was going to say, and I don't want to confuse things here, but I was a little confused in my own mind. I thought this was coming up sooner than I thought. We actually have about two weeks before the TBTL holiday party. It's on Friday the 19th. And if you want to sign up for it, it's in the evening, by the way. It's at 5 p.m. Pacific time, and you can do the math on the other time zones. And if you want to join us, just go to tbtl.net. There's a button right at the top of the page. It says TBTL holiday party sign up, And that's how you'll get your Zoom link. And we're just going to chill. We're going to have some eggnog. We're going to share stories about holiday traditions, our favorite holiday traditions. So if you want to join the conversation, you can think about what special holiday traditions you want to share with us and the rest of the group. Or if you don't want to be called on, no big deal. You can just hang out and enjoy the warm glow of the holiday season and the love of the 10s. So that's on the 19th.

We've already had to basically spring for the larger capacity Zoom meeting because we've had that much interest, which is great. So now, help us amortize that. The more people that sign up, the more that will have been worth it to pay for the more capacity. But again, that's a good problem to have.

Definitely, yes. And again, these are the things, you know, we've brought up several times on the show in the past couple of days, things that we've had to spend money on as a business boy organization, and that's what we are. And this is where people's hard-earned dollars are going when they donate to TBTL. So thanks for making it all possible. Nate says, listener Brian from Portland recently celebrated his Blurs Day. I don't get to see him very often these years, but when we do get together, it's like no time has passed. And congratulations to Brian and his lovely wife, Sarah, on their recent nuptials. Of course, they tied the knot on Halloween, Luke. Halloween, Luke. Spooky. Spooky. Happy nuptials. Much love from Nate, Carm, Katie, and Alyssa.

I wonder if that's our friend Brian, the pedal steel guitar player. I believe it is. It's a belated one. We used him, and Brian, I hope this is all right, when we announced the TVTL holiday party, we used a little bit of Brian's fine, fine holiday music because it didn't have any lyrics. It wasn't competing. And it's just wonderful stuff. So everybody look Brian up and get his stuff. He's amazing.

Happy Blurs Day. Rachel says, I want to wish a happy birthday to my 11, Willie. Willie. That's my elf.

I knew you were going to do that.

Willie. Does it sound like elf? It doesn't sound like elf. You just know that it's my elf. You think so?

No, no, no. Hold on. Do it one more time.

Every time I do it, it gets a little bit further away. Willie. No, I don't know. I lost it.

I thought definitely the first two ones were pretty alfish.

Anyway, Rachel says, I want to wish a happy birthday to my 11. Willie, a kind man who is good at many things. Thanks for being great, my dude, and for not eating cats. I just threw that last part in there. That was an elf joke. It really is a bad one. Willie doesn't eat cats on that show. I don't even know what I'm talking about.

The original, the very first part of that message, could you read that again?

I want to wish a happy birthday to my 11. Really? Was that it? You want it more? Not that part. A kind man who is good at many things.

That sounds like the way that, what's her name, Julianne Moore's character is talking about, I think, her doctor in The Big Lebowski, the person she's trying to send Jeff Bridges to. He's a good man. He's a good man. Very thorough. He's a good man and very thorough. Very thorough.

I love that. By the way, did you see that it's not here in Seattle, it might be Portland, it might be L.A., places you frequent, that they're doing a re-screening of the Julianne Moore movie. Is it safe? Is that the kind of cult-y one, the really dark one?

Yeah, the Todd Haynes one?

Yes, they're re-screening that. I don't know if it's coming to our neck of the woods.

I think about that movie all the time.

It's a rough one.

Like, well, and I think about it when I'm in rooms like this, because this room, everything in this room, Andrew, at this Hyatt place is off-gassing. It's everything is made out of the most synthetic. You know, that's a person in the movie. She is a person who develops an environmental illness, right?

Yes, yes.

She's been exposed to something that means that she's now having all these health consequences. And one of the things that they say sometimes, I mean, a lot of this stuff is really, really hard to pin down. But one of the things would be like newly installed, super synthetic carpet that's just made out of God knows what. Yeah. And it's just like, you know, that like in a certain way, the smell of new carpet is kind of nice. It kind of smells good to me. But I'm in a room that looks like they just formed this out of all of the worst chemicals you can make stuff out of in the last 24 hours.

Let me ask you a question about that movie, though, because I'm now realizing I saw this movie when I was in college. And I was just like watching all of these movies that had, you know, maybe were, you know, not huge blockbusters, but were interesting, maybe a little bit more arty, a little bit more thoughtful, flying under the radar. But the thing is, I was a young man. I was just out of high school probably when I saw that movie. And I think a lot of it probably confused me. In my memory, I thought that she was having more kind of mental and emotional problems that she was blaming on environmental issues. Is the movie an exploration of her mindset about this or is it a fact that she's actually getting sick from the environment?

I have not watched the movie in so long, Andrew, that I don't feel qualified to weigh in on that. I should rewatch that.

God, I hope it's coming to town.

I mean, I guess what I would say is knowing that Tawn Haydens is a very talented filmmaker, I wonder if what he was also looking to recreate was that feeling of disorientation that people might have when they're going through something like this. I have a friend who has Lyme's disease and has talked about how, you know, it's very, very, very hard to be suffering physically and to be going to the doctor and being told it's all in your head, basically. So I wonder if that's the concept that he's sort of exploring, whether or not it's in the head of the Julianne Moore character or not. I couldn't tell you because it was a long time ago.

Yeah, and I'm asking that because I feel like, oh, you know what? I was very young when I saw that, and I think it confused me, and I don't even have the answer to it. And all these years, it may have been sort of living incorrectly in my head. But anyway, all that is to say, happy Blursey to Tom Haynes. Todd Haynes. That's what we're trying to say.

Todd. Tom Hanks.

Tom Hanks. Oh, look at this. Look at this. Look how things come full circle. Jake, the perfect daddy, says, happy Blur's Day to my perfect son.

Oh, now you're allowed to say it.

I'm just reading. I'm just reading what's in front of me, my friend. Happy Blur's Day to my perfect son. Nick, this year's Blur's Days will be our last before we can officially say we've been listening to TBTL for half of our lives.

Oh, my goodness.

So let's see here. This will be our last before we can officially say we've been listening to TBTL. So the more birthdays, I'm trying to do the math here. Yes. We were always taught, try to do math on the radio. I see, because they're getting too old and too many years. But we're still making new TBTLs, though, right?

Well, no, I think the thing is that my guess would be that they're both turning 33.

I don't know.

Because if we've been doing this for 17 years. Okay. So read the message again, will you?

Okay. This year's Blur's Days will be our last before we can officially say we've been listening to TBTLs for half of our lives. Before we can officially say. I see. So they're growing up into Half-Life.

I guess, although, here's my question. Isn't it all constant and relative? As they're getting older, we're doing more shows. I mean, can anything beat? I don't know.

I think there's something about the construction of this particular sentence that has me kind of spinning out of control here. The point is.

I guess we'll say, well, wait, Jake is the perfect daddy, right?

Yes, Jake is in Chicago, yep.

Yeah, I would say almost perfect daddy on that math, or at least on the description of that math.

Happy birthday, Nick. Nick, you're my favorite hot dog Chris says Happy Blur's Day to Angela A great friend, wife, and mother Happy Blur's Day, Angela

And thorough

You notice that? No math No math in Chris's Blur's Day message to Angela I love that

A perfect daddy leaves Chicago on a train Going at 60 miles an hour Towards his friend Nick

I think that what got me there And I don't want to return to it but I think it has to do with like negatives or double. negatives and i know there are no double negatives in that sentence but it sort of feels like this is the last time we can't that we can't any longer not say exactly i know that's not exactly it i know it's on me but uh that's what was happening to my brain there steven says happy blursay to my wonderful wife jay you did it you started a free robotics team in our community and you've already made a big impact with kids on the team i'm so proud of you for sticking with your values It's not easy, especially now But it's the right thing to do Happy Blur's Day to our friend Jay Very cool Jay's been listening to TBTL for more than half of her life now By the way

Yes, we know A very memorable story About the last radio broadcast of TBTL And our friend Jay

And the young, impressionable Jay Andrew says, and I want to be very clear here This isn't me, Andrew, this is a different Andrew If I want to add anything to this Blur's Day I will make it clear which Andrew is speaking right now this is listener andrew who is saying wishing a happy blurs day to my incredible partner of over 20 years anna you are such an amazing person and i'm so lucky to have you in my life i love all the jokes and stories you share from our friends in seattle hope you have an awesome birthday and i can't wait for when you next serenade me with your tbtl melodica happy blurs day from your 11 andrew wow what a lovely message from somebody who is you know let's be honest

subjected to the show probably and to for this andrew not you other andrew to handle it with such equanimity to be like our your our buddies from seattle that's a very very generous way to

talk about this thing that is tbtl do you i'm thinking about the coyotes again instead of Strattling a can with rocks at them. Can we haze them by just blasting TBTL? Like, kind of Psy-Op style?

I mean, I feel like, I think at this point, that would be a war crime. Yeah. Although, we don't seem big on respecting the Geneva Conventions anymore in this country.

No, no.

I just know that when Manuel Noriega was in his stronghold in Panama, I believe they played heavy metal music to try to get him out.

Yes, oh my gosh, we're out of music.

I think TBTL might be the new heavy metal music. It might be the new thing they play to get people out of their strongholds.

I can't believe we ran out of music. It didn't seem like we were going that long. You're probably like, I've got to get out of here. I have another podcast to do. So here, let me bring the music back, and I'm going to zip through these, Luke. For you, for you, Luke, I'm zipping through. Amy says, I want to wish a happy birthday to my amazing wife, Heidi. Today is her golden blurs day. She's my best friend, my partner in all things, and the person who makes even the ordinary moments extraordinary. She's the best part of my life.

Oh, come on. That's just so sweet.

I know. It just gets better and better. She's the best part of my life, and there's no mountain too tall for us. Happy Blur's Day. Heidi from Amy and us. You guys are the best.

Absolutely adorable. We love it.

Ah, Ken swinging in here. This is our friend Ken in Michigan, right, Luke? Is that where Ken is from? I hope Cinder had a very good Blur's Day Monday, says Ken. This is for Cinder. I also hope Michigan and MSU both have great years in basketball and play each other in March. Keep posting pictures of Traverse City and your Corgi Edward. Happy birthday, Cinder.

A couple of Michiganders there checking in.

Absolutely. Traverse City. And finally, Jesse in New Mexico says, I want to give a very merry Blursday shout out to Nathaniel of Salt Lake City. you're my bff my ride or cry all i've heard from the age of 30 onward is that it's nigh on impossible to make friends closer the closer you get to 40 i'm so happy to be the exception and not the rule i can't adequately put into words how important you are to me i wish you all the happiness in the world you tiny beautiful human being happy wow lursday to nathaniel of salt lake city from and Jesse in New Mexico.

Wow, those are some very poetic, moving messages this week, honestly. I agree, I agree. Incredible stuff.

You know, you're near New Mexico, by the way. I don't know, can you swing by and say hey to New Mexico?

Yeah, I've got a flight to New Mexico at 5 tomorrow and then do one other podcast. I have to do Isotopes Weekly.

Okay, good.

And then I'm going to get on a flight in New Mexico and I'm going to fly to probably, I don't know, maybe like Medford, Oregon.

Perfect.

where I'm going to be doing another local appearance, talking about the new baseball stadium they're trying to build. And then, and only then, will I come up to Seattle and do TBTL with you, my friend. Nice.

Oh, by the way, yeah, we'll have to sort out what's going on tomorrow, by the way. I'm going to start cleaning up over here.

It'll depend on if the Arctic Room Hotel will let me in early or not. That's where we're, I guess, staying this time around. You're welcome here. I'll keep you posted.

I'll make some good broadcast coffee for you.

It'll be fun to make it this way. All right, Luke, we got to get out of here. I'm sorry. I feel like I was lollygagging near the end and keeping you. No, this is good. I want to stay in the flow. I don't want there to be honest with you. If I'd had like 45 minutes between the end of our show and the beginning of this next recording, I would have been tempted to close my eyes on the bed in the hotel room, and that would have been a bad thing. So this is good. I'm just keeping the content train rolling, my friends. Nice. We'll see some of you maybe tonight at the Wait Wait Show in Arizona. Andy Richter is the Not My Job guest. That'll be kind of fun. Oh, that is fun. That's very fun. He's having a whole Richter-sance. He's on Dancing with the Stars, and he's becoming kind of the cult hero of Dancing with the Stars now, so he's got a whole new career going. Anyway, we'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for all of you. That much I can't assure you of. So we'll see you then. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall. And good luck to all. Power out.